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IRC Log for 2014-04-22

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[0:00] <deadpool> Jeebiss: so you have never tried the wpa_gui?
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[0:50] <\\Mr_C\\> shoot
[0:50] <\\Mr_C\\> jacked my gpio pin 7
[0:50] <\\Mr_C\\> oh well in the trash it goes
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[0:54] <hadifarnoud> not sure what Mr_C put in the trash, his laptop or his Pu
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[0:58] <trohrt> Anyone used LibreOffice with the Pi?
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[0:59] <binaryhermit> trohrt: it's likely to be painful due to lack of processing power
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[0:59] <binaryhermit> though as I haven't done it, I can't say how painful
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[1:00] <plugwash> I've seen some people say it's usable but I don't know how masochistic those people were
[1:02] <binaryhermit> my take on it (hosted on my raspberry pi) http://binaryhermit.no-ip.biz/48821190.jpg
[1:03] <trohrt> binaryhermit: Have you ever tried it?
[1:03] <binaryhermit> no
[1:04] <binaryhermit> apparently part of the problem is that X has zero hardware acceleration and everything's running on the equivalent of a p2
[1:04] <binaryhermit> also, as I understand it, Wayland will have hardware acceleration and will run X apps better through its compatibility layer than X natively runs X apps
[1:05] <trohrt> ah i see
[1:05] <trohrt> DWM is quite nice on the Pi
[1:05] <binaryhermit> and obviously you're going to do better on a 512 MB Model B board
[1:05] <trohrt> I run midori decently
[1:05] <trohrt> Yeah i have a model B
[1:06] <trohrt> I'm going to have to turn in my school laptop here soon and i don't have money to buy a real laptop so I'm probably just going to use my pi for the time being lol.
[1:06] <binaryhermit> apparently the 512 MB of RAM thing is fairly new, probably most Model B boards have 256
[1:06] <trohrt> binaryhermit: My pi has 512 mb
[1:06] <trohrt> The model b's were shipped with 512, right?
[1:06] <binaryhermit> well, good luck. Hopefully you prove my mediocre-at-best meme wrong
[1:06] <binaryhermit> trohrt: not until recently
[1:07] * binaryhermit googles for the date
[1:07] <trohrt> Oh
[1:07] <trohrt> the revision 2
[1:07] <binaryhermit> yes
[1:07] <trohrt> Yeah i bought a revision 2 in july
[1:07] <trohrt> mine has 512
[1:07] <binaryhermit> there's a blog post from October 15, 2012///
[1:07] * binaryhermit thought it was more recent
[1:08] <binaryhermit> http://www.raspberrypi.org/model-b-now-ships-with-512mb-of-ram/
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[1:08] <trohrt> i see
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[1:09] * plugwash suspects that by now most raspberry pis in the wild are 512MB versions
[1:10] <binaryhermit> plugwash: you're probably right. I thought the change was closer to October 2013
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[1:10] <plugwash> Last I checked it was virtually impossible to buy a 256MB model B on the secondary market too
[1:10] <binaryhermit> at the very least they'd have to sell at an extreme discount
[1:12] * plugwash isn't convinced about that
[1:12] <binaryhermit> I wouldn't pay the same price for a 256 MB board
[1:12] <plugwash> neither would I but I suspect there are people who would
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[1:13] <binaryhermit> would it be against the rules of the channel for me to say what I think those people are?
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[1:16] <binaryhermit> ok, fine, perhaps not something inappropriate. But at least ignorant or poorly informed
[1:17] <binaryhermit> reminds me of back in the day people selling 15+ year old laptops with wireless cards for $400+ on ebay
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[1:18] <binaryhermit> though obviously not as bad
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[1:42] <binaryhermit> hmm, I turned on the ceiling fan in the room my RPi's in and the temperature went down 3-5C...
[1:43] <pksato> http://www.futurebots.com/links.htm
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[2:05] <octocodercat> Ok, I have a really wierd problem
[2:05] <octocodercat> I'm trying to boot my Pi with an SD card that has worked before...
[2:05] <octocodercat> the power light comes on, and the ACT light comes on(but isn't bright at all) and nothing happens
[2:06] <octocodercat> I've tried all the fixes described here http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Red_power_LED_is_on.2C_green_LED_does_not_flash.2C_nothing_on_display except the hair drier one
[2:06] <octocodercat> oh, and I haven't tried the modified bootcode.bin because I know it's worked with this SD before
[2:07] <octocodercat> it's a standard raspian image, the latest version, and the Pi is a Model B
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[2:08] <octocodercat> Is ESD a possibility?
[2:09] <octocodercat> Anyone? This is scaring me - I don't want to have to buy another pi :(
[2:09] <applegekko> so i have the os running from a flash drive, but performance is really bad, ssh sometimes doesn't respond, any tips or advices
[2:10] <octocodercat> The fact that my ACT light is on but really dim is scaring me
[2:11] <octocodercat> right now it's like that, I have it with nothing but USB power(I've tried two cables/adapters) without even so much as HDMI plugged in, and it's giving me the same dim light
[2:11] <octocodercat> ls
[2:11] <pksato> octocodercat: check if sd is correct inserted. or if slot is not damanged.
[2:11] <octocodercat> pksato, It's inserted correctly, the slot is not damaged in any way
[2:12] <octocodercat> Just noticed the thing that says that a faintly glowing LED means no boot code has been executed
[2:13] <pksato> tested with other sd?
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[2:13] <pksato> one know condiction for faintly act is not detected sd card.
[2:15] <octocodercat> I just grabbed another SD, I'll pop raspian on it now
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[2:16] <octocodercat> I'm scared it could be ESD because my room is a fairly high-static enviornment, I'm always careful to ground myself before touching the pi though
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[2:19] <octocodercat> Copying Raspian to backup SD card now
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[2:26] <deadpool> hey guys
[2:26] <deadpool> so i am trying to get wifi working
[2:26] <deadpool> but my pi is not seeing the interface
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[2:27] <deadpool> where would i get the driver fro 3.10.25+ kernel for tplink
[2:27] <deadpool> if anyone could help that would be great
[2:27] <deadpool> thanks
[2:30] <octocodercat> Great news! My problem WAS the SD Card!
[2:30] <ShorTie> what does dmesg say about it ??
[2:30] <ShorTie> sure it's not a firmware issue
[2:31] <ShorTie> Cool octocodercat
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[2:50] <sq> octocodercat: got the same problem
[2:50] <sq> i bet it will just reappear :<
[2:51] <sq> (don't overclock)
[2:51] <octocodercat> sq, I think it was actually the SD card
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[2:51] <octocodercat> I swapped it out with another and it was fine
[2:51] <sq> yeah, i bet you'll check the “bad” card and it'll bne fine
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[2:52] <octocodercat> It was fine on the computer
[2:52] <octocodercat> but not on the pi
[2:52] <sq> i had pi report i/o errors on a completely good sd card
[2:53] <octocodercat> I have a 64G USB drive, should I move the root FS to it?
[2:53] <sq> but turning off overclocking makes pi corrupt the card much less frequently
[2:54] <sq> i've heard usb drives help but i never checked myself
[2:54] <ShorTie> need a good power supply for oc'n
[2:54] <SirLagz> an ATX PSU makes for a good power supply.
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[2:55] * octocodercat needs to get a case
[2:55] <ShorTie> octocodercat, if this is a fresh install, might be easier just to write the image to it
[2:55] <octocodercat> ShorTie, Write the image to it? the SD Card? That's what I did
[2:55] <sq> i wonder just how improper power leads to sd card corruption
[2:56] <sq> i'd suspect stuff like halts/segfaults first
[2:56] <ShorTie> no, the 64g usb drive
[2:56] <octocodercat> ShorTie, Can an RPI boot from the drive without an SD card?
[2:57] <ShorTie> no, you gotta have a sdcard
[2:57] * octocodercat wishes RPis had a bit of onboard memory like Beaglebones
[2:58] * ShorTie thinkz, the next 1 has 4g
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[2:58] <ShorTie> due out in like june
[2:58] <sq> olinuxino has 4gb
[2:58] <octocodercat> Really?
[2:59] <ShorTie> looks like a laptop ram module, lol.
[2:59] <SirLagz> ShorTie: next one of what ?
[2:59] <ShorTie> the next version of the pi
[2:59] <sq> there's a lot of tiny computes like raspberry pi, they are worth looking into it
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[2:59] <SirLagz> has it been announced already ?
[3:00] <ShorTie> ya
[3:00] <SirLagz> o rly
[3:00] <sq> some are completely open source
[3:00] <sq> and are even cheaper than the pi
[3:00] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-compute-module-new-product/
[3:00] <SirLagz> VIA APC is the one that I want. I like the case fo rit lol
[3:01] <ShorTie> see, looks like a memory card
[3:02] <ShorTie> the SoC and ram, thats it i think
[3:02] <SirLagz> ShorTie: that is awesome !
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[3:03] <ShorTie> yup, me wants atleast 1
[3:04] <ShorTie> the io board has 2 camera slots too...
[3:04] <SirLagz> that would make custom cases much easier. custom IO board with the compute module and you can have something a bit bigger than the pi but with all ports on one side
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[3:04] <SirLagz> damn I want one now
[3:04] <ShorTie> with just the io ports you want to
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[3:05] <SirLagz> zigactly
[3:05] <ShorTie> dag*
[3:06] <SirLagz> looks like USB booting of the Pi Module will be possible too
[3:06] <SirLagz> dual screens, dual cams
[3:06] <SirLagz> mmmmmm
[3:07] <SirLagz> pity the BCM doesn't have ethernet built in
[3:08] <SirLagz> I forget the stuff the BCM is actually missing since the Pi has a whole bunch of stuff added on
[3:10] <SirLagz> just have to wait for someone to design a board centered around the module then
[3:10] <ShorTie> oh man, did you watch the video ??
[3:11] <ShorTie> check out his power supply
[3:11] <SirLagz> no...
[3:11] * octocodercat wants to learn to build his own Mini Linux Computer from a SoC
[3:11] <SirLagz> don't think i can watch the video from work =/
[3:12] <SirLagz> octocodercat: learning is easy, it's the building that's hard lol
[3:12] <ShorTie> it's a big bench top supply, holds 5v nicely
[3:12] <SirLagz> nice
[3:13] <octocodercat> SirLagz, True, especially when I can't solder due to really shaky hands
[3:13] <SirLagz> hmm time to start designing my own custom PCB haha
[3:13] <ShorTie> good power supply, is the key to a good pi
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[3:13] <octocodercat> I nearly poked myself in the eye with a soldering iron ---
[3:13] <octocodercat> *-_-
[3:13] <SirLagz> octocodercat: that would hurt.
[3:14] <SirLagz> ShorTie: when i build my own Pi, it'll have a switching reg built in to convert anything from 6v-30v into a nice steady stream of 5v lol
[3:15] <ShorTie> you can get a 3amp power supply board for a couple bucks off ebay
[3:15] <octocodercat> I think if I get a PCB holder I could solder better
[3:15] <octocodercat> technically I wasn't that close to ramming the iron in my eye, but I did burn my hands a lot :/
[3:15] <SirLagz> ShorTie: or use something like that. either way. Steady 5v :P
[3:15] <SirLagz> octocodercat: ouch
[3:15] <octocodercat> I'd build in a 1TB SSD
[3:15] <SirLagz> I'm always very careful around soldering irons.
[3:16] <SirLagz> octocodercat: bad thing about the Pi...no SATA :(
[3:16] <octocodercat> Indeed
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[3:17] <octocodercat> I'd also use like 4GB RAM instead of 512MB
[3:17] <plugwash> worst soldering related incident I had was when I was desoldering a large battery clip from a battery charger
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[3:17] <octocodercat> since it's going to be a pain to figure out how to make bitcoind run properly on a pi
[3:17] <SirLagz> plugwash: *kablam* ?
[3:17] <plugwash> the solder melted, the wire pulled free from the clip and the solder started heading towards my eye
[3:17] * octocodercat imagines boom
[3:17] <octocodercat> oh
[3:17] <octocodercat> plugwash, Oh my!
[3:17] <steve_rox> did the batt explode?/
[3:18] <ShorTie> i don't think the BCM2835 can handle more then 512mb
[3:18] <plugwash> there was no battery connected to the charger, nor was there any mains power connected
[3:18] <steve_rox> oh
[3:18] <SirLagz> plugwash: ah, that's a lot better than a *kablam* then
[3:18] <SirLagz> ShorTie: the Pi compute has 4Gigs built in
[3:18] <steve_rox> good job i wear glasses for such protection
[3:18] <octocodercat> ShorTie, I would probably use a different SoC
[3:18] <ShorTie> nop, thats flash not ram
[3:18] <SirLagz> ShorTie: oh you were talking about RAM. sorry
[3:19] <steve_rox> if the flash was fast couldent it make a fast swp file?
[3:19] <plugwash> fortunately I blinked and so the only damage was a minor burn to my eyelid
[3:19] <SirLagz> plugwash: lucky
[3:19] <plugwash> but still scary as hell
[3:19] <SirLagz> I'm a 4 eyes so I always have glasses on
[3:19] <steve_rox> indeed
[3:19] <SirLagz> Don't know how it would handle molten solder though
[3:19] <octocodercat> steve_rox, It wouldn't be fast enough, even if the flash was blazing fast
[3:19] <SirLagz> I'd probably need new glasses afterwards
[3:19] <octocodercat> especially in the case of Bitcoind
[3:19] <steve_rox> oh , well just a thought
[3:19] <SirLagz> It'd be interesting how fast the flash is on the Pi Compute though
[3:20] <steve_rox> i dont think i have much of a use for one
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[3:20] <steve_rox> and id miss composite out
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[3:20] <SirLagz> steve_rox: for a Pi Compute ?
[3:20] <SirLagz> steve_rox: I have no use for one, I still want one :P
[3:20] <octocodercat> +1
[3:20] <steve_rox> hehe
[3:21] <steve_rox> it does seem kinda interesting yeah
[3:21] <octocodercat> is it a bad thing when I have so many terminal windows open I can't find my Raspberry Pi kernel compiling window?
[3:21] <steve_rox> but im not sure i could use it to its full potential etc
[3:21] <SirLagz> steve_rox: I can't. Still want. haha
[3:21] <steve_rox> i loose putty windows if that counts
[3:21] <SirLagz> I don't even use any of my Pis GPIOs atm
[3:22] <SirLagz> but the awesome factor of a Pi Compute is just too much for me
[3:22] <steve_rox> ive played with the gpio , its been interesting
[3:22] <steve_rox> got a temp+humidity sensor on rpi at moment
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[3:23] <ShorTie> me 2, but can't get it to read right .. :/~
[3:23] <steve_rox> i got mine to work easy enough
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[3:23] <steve_rox> if i get the cmd wrong at start you get crazy data returned
[3:24] <steve_rox> like temp being 1000'c
[3:24] <steve_rox> is it the dht11 thing?
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[3:24] <ShorTie> it's a am2302
[3:24] <ShorTie> like a dht22
[3:25] <steve_rox> the cmd i used was
[3:25] <steve_rox> sudo ./Adafruit_DHT 11 4
[3:25] <steve_rox> 11 being the model i think and 4 being the gpio pin
[3:25] <ShorTie> ya, i've tried it
[3:25] <SirLagz> once I get some cash together, Gonna buy myself a nice kit so i can play around with stuff
[3:26] <ShorTie> mr. scope says i'm not getting all the bits
[3:26] <SirLagz> been wanting to setup a temp sensor for my little mancave
[3:26] <steve_rox> ive always wondered why no ones made a rpi kit in the style of them 1000 in one project kit sets you used to get
[3:26] <SirLagz> outside mancave, inside mancave, and temp sensor for all my servers that are on the wall of my mancave
[3:28] <SirLagz> steve_rox: I'm sure they exist
[3:28] <steve_rox> for the rpi
[3:28] <SirLagz> steve_rox: I'm sure I've seen kits that have a whole bunch of sensors, leds, swithces, buttons etc that are pretty much the same thing
[3:28] <ShorTie> the ds18b20's work preaty good for just temp
[3:28] <SirLagz> steve_rox: arduino...Pi...same thing nowadays :P
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[3:29] <octocodercat> Anyone here used Mini-iTX boards at all?
[3:29] <SirLagz> octocodercat: I've got a couple
[3:29] <octocodercat> I'm thinking about building a wireless router with one
[3:29] <steve_rox> i was once thinkin of gettin one of the mini itx boards but decided too expensive for what i wanted it for
[3:29] <octocodercat> SirLagz, Cool!
[3:29] <SirLagz> I've use the Pi as a WiFi router lol
[3:29] <octocodercat> SirLagz, What kind of case/chasis do you have them in?
[3:30] <SirLagz> octocodercat: my two are Wyse Thin Terminals.
[3:30] <steve_rox> http://www.super-science-fair-projects.com/mx-907-200-in-1-electronic-lab.html
[3:30] <steve_rox> that was the project kit i had
[3:30] <steve_rox> be interesting if a rpi was mounted in a simular way to it
[3:30] <SirLagz> octocodercat: http://www.thinclientwarehouse.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/y/wyse_v90l_thin_client-902141-08l.jpg
[3:30] <SirLagz> octocodercat: I have 2 of those
[3:31] <octocodercat> Cool!
[3:31] <octocodercat> I've been thinking about getting a mini iTX, but that would mean I couldn't buy any more 128MB VPSs :P
[3:32] <SirLagz> octocodercat: one of my MiniITX boxes is my security camera, my other one is my low power desktop + print server
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[3:33] <octocodercat> SirLagz, Do they work well for you?
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[3:34] <SirLagz> octocodercat: the security cam -mostly. It freezes every now and then
[3:34] <SirLagz> octocodercat: might be a heat issue though. It's sitting on top of my fridge lol
[3:34] <SirLagz> the print server - I've only just finished building that so I'll see
[3:34] <octocodercat> Okay :D
[3:34] <SirLagz> octocodercat: the USB Flash drive on my print server died in the first day I built it originally lol
[3:35] <octocodercat> What kind of flash drive is it?
[3:35] <SirLagz> some generic 8gig piece of crap
[3:35] <SirLagz> obviously couldn't handle all the writes that linux was doing on it
[3:36] <SirLagz> I'm using a Verbatim usb stick now and it seems to be handling it alright
[3:36] <octocodercat> ok
[3:36] <steve_rox> punish dat flash
[3:37] <SirLagz> when I get some more dosh, I'll be replacing the USB flash drive with an IDE DOM so that I can free up a USB port
[3:37] <octocodercat> I'm thinking of ordering a high-power USB WiFi antenna, a chasis and a Mini-iTX motherboard with a ~250GB SSD
[3:37] <octocodercat> and 4 or 8GB RAM
[3:37] <octocodercat> I'm going to set it up as a Wifi router, OpenVPN client, and squid cache
[3:37] <SirLagz> why do you want a 250GB SSD ? or 4/8GB of RAM ?
[3:38] <SirLagz> I'm running a squid cache on 1GB of RAM with 40 ? gigs of disk space lol
[3:38] <octocodercat> I want to use the remaining disk space for file storage
[3:38] <SirLagz> ah
[3:38] <ShorTie> i run smoothwall for my firewall router, does wifi too..
[3:38] <SirLagz> i run pfSense for mine
[3:38] <SirLagz> but mine's a VM so no WiFi there lol
[3:39] <octocodercat> I saw smoothwall on hak5, but I hear better things about pfSense
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[3:39] <ShorTie> i got wifi, but they are ap's
[3:39] <SirLagz> ShorTie: same
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[3:40] <voxadam> pfSense is great but FreeBSD 8's wifi sucks. I run pfSense as a firewall and an OpenWRT router with DHCP and what not turned off as my AP.
[3:40] <octocodercat> I'm imagining a transparent squid cache with an OpenVPN client and some NAS storage
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[3:40] <SirLagz> voxadam: pfsense uses BSD9 IIRC
[3:40] <octocodercat> hmm, I could almost set it up myself from using FreeBSD 10
[3:41] <SirLagz> voxadam: sorry, I was worng.
[3:41] <SirLagz> still on 8
[3:41] <octocodercat> Maybe even FreeRADIUS for WiFi Authentication xD
[3:41] <voxadam> The next version of pfSense will be based on FreeBSD 10.
[3:41] <SirLagz> octocodercat: lol. I've thought about doing that too
[3:41] <octocodercat> SirLagz, :D It'd be fun
[3:42] <SirLagz> hmm...ntop has stopped on my pfsense box
[3:42] <octocodercat> the downside to the OpenVPN client part of that is that I have to run my OpenVPN server on tcp because my internet is too laggy for UDP to work properly
[3:42] <octocodercat> I get errors and intermittent connectivity when using UDP
[3:43] <SirLagz> octocodercat: fun times lol
[3:43] <octocodercat> TCP over TCP is slow :p
[3:43] <SirLagz> hmmm maybe my pfsense box is running out of memory
[3:43] <SirLagz> ntop died lol
[3:44] <octocodercat> but this it the only way I can get incoming connections, my ISP flat out told me that they "could not allow me" to receive incoming ports
[3:44] <octocodercat> *connections
[3:44] <SirLagz> octocodercat: that's ridiculous !
[3:44] <SirLagz> octocodercat: hows the internet meant to work if they "could not allow you" to receive incoming connections.
[3:45] <octocodercat> No peer-to-peer applications.
[3:45] <octocodercat> :/
[3:45] <SirLagz> octocodercat: what they probably meant was they couldn't allow you to recieve incoming new connections lol
[3:45] <octocodercat> yeah
[3:45] <octocodercat> sorry, misphrased that
[3:45] <octocodercat> I can't run a server of any kind, I'm behind a NAT
[3:45] <SirLagz> octocodercat: yeah I know. Still think that's ridiculous though
[3:45] <octocodercat> I suppose their side of that is that I'm fifteen, so they were talking to "The customer's kid"
[3:46] <SirLagz> pfft
[3:46] <SirLagz> when I was 15, I was running a linux server serving up my own website with my own blog that I wrote lol
[3:47] <octocodercat> When they said I wasn't allowed to modify network settings regarding new incoming connections,I about told them that they could shove their network setting up their...
[3:47] <octocodercat> nose
[3:47] <voxadam> Me too. Though that was back around Linux 1.2 or so.
[3:47] * voxadam is old.
[3:47] <SirLagz> voxadam: haha. quite a few years older than me :P
[3:47] <SirLagz> I started on Linux 2.4
[3:47] <voxadam> Lucky.
[3:47] <SirLagz> haha
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[3:48] <octocodercat> I had a Minecraft server running on Ubuntu when I was 12
[3:48] <octocodercat> this was before current ISP
[3:48] <octocodercat> It sat in my basement and ran quite well, even had a few players
[3:49] <SirLagz> octocodercat: I run a Minecraft server now for myself and my daughter haha
[3:50] <octocodercat> Now the only way I can get new incoming connections is through a 128MB RAM OpenVZ VPS that has three IPs on it - one IP for listening for incoming connections for the VPN, one for myself, and one for a friend of mine who lives ~1000 miles south of me who also has internet blues frequently
[3:50] <SirLagz> that sucks
[3:50] <octocodercat> And I can't even use UDP to connect to it
[3:50] <octocodercat> so I'm tunnelling TCP over TCP :/
[3:51] <SirLagz> fun
[3:51] <thegorn> clearly you need udp over tcp
[3:52] <octocodercat> thegorn, Preferably TCP over UDP
[3:52] <thegorn> tcp over udp over tcp
[3:53] <octocodercat> I could do tcp over tcp over tcp
[3:53] <octocodercat> SSH-tunnel to the OpenVPN, then SSH tunnel through the SSH-tunneled OpenVPN to another site :D
[3:54] <SirLagz> lol
[3:54] <SirLagz> i wonder if i have enough free RAM to bump my pfsense box up to 1GB...apparently it's only running 512
[3:55] <SirLagz> not 1gb like i thought
[3:55] <SirLagz> do'h
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[6:00] <AbbyTheRat> Woo! I'm working on faceplace for my project, woo
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[6:00] <AbbyTheRat> and no-one around that is somewhat interested in this, is around. Doh
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[7:08] <Busybyeski> has anyone gotten directvnc to work on raspbmc?
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[7:18] <shiftplusone> Busybyeski, you want to use it to see xbmc or just the desktop?
[7:18] <shiftplusone> (or console)
[7:18] <Busybyeski> shiftplusone: i'm trying to use it to extend my laptop to the monitor hooked to the pi
[7:18] <Busybyeski> so as a viewing client instead of server
[7:19] <shiftplusone> ah
[7:21] <shiftplusone> For some reason, I was under the impression that directvnc was a server which captures what was going on on the framebuffer.
[7:21] <shiftplusone> *captured
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[7:30] <Busybyeski> shiftplusone: it may well be that i have no idea what it is i just looked through the command line options and it looked like a client
[7:31] <shiftplusone> No no, I checked and you were right.
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[7:42] <trillobyte_> Sorry for the noob question, but can I boot rasbian off of a usb stick instead of an sd card?
[7:42] <shiftplusone> kind of
[7:42] <shiftplusone> the kernel and firmware must be on an sd card
[7:43] <shiftplusone> but the root fs can be on USB
[7:43] <trillobyte_> can you point me to perhaps some site for further info?
[7:44] <shiftplusone> I'd have to google it
[7:44] <shiftplusone> (I won't)
[7:44] <shiftplusone> I do remember there's an elaborate forum thread on it
[7:45] <trillobyte_> That's okay. I will :)
[7:45] <shiftplusone> where the guy gets into way more detail than necessary.
[7:45] <trillobyte_> At least I know now that it's possible
[7:45] <shiftplusone> which should be helpful if you haven't done it before.
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[7:47] <trillobyte_> I have an 8 gig sd card but there's not enough room for yacy to run right on the Pi.
[7:48] <trillobyte_> In order to crawl I need some extra space.
[7:51] <trillobyte_> Thanks shiftplusone
[7:51] <shiftplusone> np, good luck
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[16:02] <xreal> Does "raspbmc" have same amount of parcels like Rasbian does? I want a MediaPlayer + things like WiringPi...
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[16:10] <takkie> xreal: i'm not sure what you mean. Do you need a package manager?
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[16:11] <vexter> when plug in my 3g modem Reboot the system
[16:11] <vexter> =/
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[16:12] <IT_Sean> vexter: you using a powered USB hub?
[16:12] <xreal> takkie: for example... I like apt and aptitude :D
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[16:13] <takkie> xreal: i believe raspbmc comes with apt, doesn't it?
[16:14] <faLUCE> hello. I need to control a ws2812 led strip with raspberry pi. is it possible to drive the strip directly from the raspberry or I should use arduino as a middle layer? do you have any good link to follow?
[16:14] <xreal> takkie: Just got my first Raspberry... I need to test :D
[16:15] <vexter> IT_Sean NO
[16:15] <vexter> directly at the door
[16:15] <IT_Sean> Might try one.
[16:16] <takkie> xreal: i dont have any spare sd-card at the moment, if i had, i would test it for you quickly.
[16:16] <vexter> IT_Sean I have hands on a usb extender, where I connect several ports
[16:16] <vexter> dont work
[16:18] <IT_Sean> does the hub have it's own power supply?
[16:18] <pksato> faLUCE: Yes, is possible to control theses strips direct from RPi.
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[16:18] <psiklops> hi
[16:18] <vexter> IT_Sean tkz to
[16:19] <faLUCE> pksato: thanks, but do you have any good reference/guide for that? I'm googling and I can't find it
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[16:20] <vexter> IT_Sean http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-552458206-mini-hub-usb-4-portas-20-preto-notebook-extensor-usb-_JM
[16:20] <vexter> can this be?
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[16:22] <takkie> faLUCE: check https://learn.adafruit.com/light-painting-with-raspberry-pi/hardware
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[16:25] <takkie> faLUCE: also, just found this nice piece:
[16:25] <takkie> http://www.hackerspaceshop.com/ledstrips/raspberrypi-ws2801.html#
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[16:25] <faLUCE> takkie: it talks about ws2801, but I own a ws2812 one
[16:27] <faLUCE> takkie: are you sure that the first link you gave me is good for ws2812 too?
[16:28] <takkie> faLUCE: aah, you're right. Didn't catch that, sorry.
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[16:29] <pksato> faLUCE: you strip only have ws2812 leds, no other chip?
[16:29] <pksato> http://hackaday.com/2013/11/22/using-dma-to-drive-ws2812-led-pixels/
[16:30] <faLUCE> pksato: yes, 2812
[16:31] <faLUCE> pksato: I don't see a mention to raspberry in your link
[16:32] <pksato> google lie for me.... :P
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[16:40] <pksato> vexter: ask on public channel. any/most usb 2.0 hub are compatible with raspberry pi.
[16:40] <takkie> faLUCE: the first link was more for reference.
[16:41] <takkie> faLUCE: the 2nd link was indeed for the 2801's, but searching on the site for ws2812 gives: http://www.hackerspaceshop.com/fadecandy.html#
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[16:42] <pksato> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/search.php?keywords=ws2812
[16:44] <faLUCE> pksato: your last link shows that interfacing the strip directly to the pi is not a good idea
[16:44] <faLUCE> takkie: your link could be good
[16:45] <SpeedEvil> They can - if DMA is used
[16:45] <faLUCE> takkie: is it a hardware that can be interfaced to pi through ussb=?
[16:45] <pksato> ws2812 need a precise timming.
[16:45] <pksato> and, RPi dont have hw timer to help.
[16:45] <pksato> best way is to use hw pwm.
[16:46] <pksato> DMA is need quick change.
[16:46] <faLUCE> SpeedEvil: yes, but there's not a good guide for using DMA
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[16:47] <SpeedEvil> True
[16:48] <faLUCE> then takkie's link http://www.hackerspaceshop.com/fadecandy.html# appears a good solution
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[16:50] <takkie> faLUCE: it may well be, but it seems to require some skills. Check: https://github.com/scanlime/fadecandy
[16:51] <faLUCE> takkie: yes, I'm looking at it
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[16:57] <takkie> faLUCE: this is really cool. An Fadecandy connected to OpenWRT wireless accesspoint. http://scanlime.org/2014/02/standalone-wifi-fadecandy-server/
[16:58] <takkie> now i want this stuff to :)
[16:58] <faLUCE> takkie: yes, I'm seeing this is good.
[16:58] <faLUCE> but now I have another problem:
[16:58] <faLUCE> I need to control about 1500 pixels
[16:58] <faLUCE> and one of these hw can control a maximum of 512 pixels
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[16:59] <takkie> yes, but you can manage multiple hw with the server. the server recognizes them "automagically"
[16:59] <faLUCE> takkie: ok, but does it sync all the hws?
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[17:04] <takkie> faLUCE: i think to bottleneck is either the RPi's processor, or USB throughput
[17:04] <takkie> to = the
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[17:17] <zenpac> I'm looking for some kits at about $50/per... Any recommendations are welcome.
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[17:30] <faLUCE> takkie: it appears obscure if it is possible to drive accurately more than 512 pixels by using multiple fadecandies
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[17:34] <takkie> faLUCE: i think it is. if only you could build houses with it :)
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[17:35] <takkie> or roads, or clothing, or.. or..
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[17:45] <dassio> i run into a this error when trying to compile a wireless driver :make: *** /lib/modules/3.12.0-5.20131106git839f349.rpfr18.bcm2708/build:
[17:45] <dassio> where can i get the code , i am using pidora
[17:45] <dassio> Linux raspi.local 3.12.0-5.20131106git839f349.rpfr18.bcm2708 #1 PREEMPT Tue Dec 17 18:31:30 EST 2013 armv6l armv6l armv6l GNU/Linux
[17:46] <takkie> what's the error?
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[17:47] <dassio> make ARCH=armv6l CROSS_COMPILE= -C /lib/modules/3.12.0-5.20131106git839f349.rpfr18.bcm2708/build M=/home/danny/drivers/RTL8188C_8192C_USB_linux_v4.0.2_9000.20130911/driver/rtl8188C_8192C_usb_linux_v4.0.2_9000.20130911 modules
[17:47] <dassio> make: *** /lib/modules/3.12.0-5.20131106git839f349.rpfr18.bcm2708/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[17:48] <dassio> do i need the kernel's source code or something ?
[17:50] <takkie> uhm, it the build file there? looks like it's missing
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[17:51] <dassio> no it is not the problem is i don't know where to get it , i tried the pidora website , but all they got is a img
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[17:52] <takkie> url?
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[17:52] <dassio> the website url ? (http://pidora.ca/)
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[17:55] <gordonDrogon> maybe switch to a better supported distro - Raspbian for example ...
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[17:56] <dassio> i guess i could do that but just here to see if anyone has run into this problem before
[17:57] <dassio> or even better member of the pidora team
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> it just doesn't seem to have gained popularity.
[17:57] <shiftplusone> they have a channel
[17:57] <shiftplusone> a very quiet channel where nobody answers any questions, last time I checked.
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[18:02] <dassio> you mean this one #pidora , i will try my luck there
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[18:04] <nerdboy> moin
[18:04] <shiftplusone> to be honest, it's just a out of tree module compilation question, which is not at all distro-specific. I am just lazy right now.
[18:06] <dassio> yes, but did't i need the specific distro code to fix this ? sorry not very familiar with compiling linux drivers
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[18:07] <shiftplusone> nope
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[18:18] <dassio> guess need to learn more about cross-compiling
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[18:19] <shiftplusone> the only thing wrong there (in terms of cross-compiling) is that you don't specify the crosscompiler.... you just have CROSS_COMPILE= and no parameter
[18:19] <xreal> Oh great... just connected my first RaspberryPi to a HDMI TV and... nothing happens!
[18:19] <xreal> No picture, nothing.
[18:20] <shiftplusone> have you written an image to the card?
[18:20] <shiftplusone> (or installed NOOBS on it)
[18:20] <xreal> shiftplusone: Yep, Raspbmc with its Windows installer.
[18:20] <xreal> shiftplusone: WiFi dongle blinks
[18:20] <shiftplusone> Does the ACT LED flash at all when you power up the pi?
[18:20] <shiftplusone> unplug the wifi dongle for now.
[18:21] <xreal> shiftplusone: is that the red one?
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[18:21] <shiftplusone> no
[18:21] <shiftplusone> it's the one that says 'ACT' or 'OK' next to it.
[18:21] <xreal> shiftplusone: is it always on or just flashing once?
[18:21] <shiftplusone> I am asking you what it does
[18:21] <shiftplusone> if anything
[18:22] <xreal> shiftplusone: Don't know, I'm 3 floors away now :(
[18:22] <xreal> will look in some seconds.
[18:22] <shiftplusone> ah, that makes things difficult
[18:22] <shiftplusone> when you do, unplug everything.
[18:22] <shiftplusone> just have the sd card and power in
[18:22] <xreal> I've set up Raspbmc with WiFi support (DHCP etc.) because I don't have ethernet anywhere.
[18:22] <xreal> woooop
[18:22] <xreal> I've just checked the router.
[18:22] <shiftplusone> if the LED does absolutely nothing (it may glow very dimly), then it's either a badly imaged card, or the pi is no able to read it for some reason
[18:23] <xreal> xbmc-d846 !
[18:23] <xreal> Can I ssh directly into it?
[18:23] <shiftplusone> so it's connected, but you've got no video? can you ssh in?
[18:23] <xreal> :D
[18:23] <takkie> xreal: yes you can
[18:23] <shiftplusone> I don't know if raspbmc has ssh on by default
[18:23] <shiftplusone> but try
[18:23] <xreal> shiftplusone: let me google for login
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[18:24] <sraue> or give OpenELEC a try there is a great Connection Manager included :-)
[18:25] <sraue> use the diskimage with dd/win32diskimager from http://openelec.tv/get-openelec/download/viewcategory/10-raspberry-pi-builds to get the latest and greatest XBMC distro :-)
[18:25] <xreal> damn, pi:raspberry doesn't work as login
[18:26] <takkie> xreal: i believe its root:raspberry
[18:26] <xreal> takkie: user "root" wasn't found, let me retry.
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[18:26] <xreal> access denied
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[18:27] <xreal> root:root works!
[18:27] <xreal> SFTP seems to be deactivated.
[18:28] <shiftplusone> is the command 'tvservice' found?
[18:28] <xreal> let me have a look
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[18:29] <xreal> shiftplusone: ew... isn't it in init.d ?
[18:29] <shiftplusone> no
[18:29] <xreal> shiftplusone: but yes, it's installed.
[18:29] <shiftplusone> on 'normal' distros, it's /opt/vc/bin/, I think
[18:29] <shiftplusone> what does tvservice -s say?
[18:29] <xreal> state 0x40001 [NTSC 4:3], 720x480 @ 60Hz, interlaced
[18:29] <xreal> oh, I'm in Europe. We've got PAL
[18:30] <shiftplusone> didn't you say you want HDMI?
[18:30] <xreal> shiftplusone: is it then set to NTSC?
[18:30] <shiftplusone> it's outputting to composite right now
[18:30] <xreal> oh?!
[18:30] <shiftplusone> not hdmi
[18:30] <shiftplusone> was the monitor plugged in when you powered it up?
[18:30] <xreal> shiftplusone: yes, with two different, work cables.
[18:30] <xreal> Viera Panasonic
[18:31] <shiftplusone> try tvservice -p
[18:31] <shiftplusone> and then check -s again
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[18:31] <xreal> state 0x40015 [DVI CEA (1) RGB lim 4:3], 640x480 @ 60Hz, progressive
[18:31] <xreal> can I force it to use hdmi always?
[18:32] <shiftplusone> well, it sounds like it's not detecting a display
[18:32] <shiftplusone> does -n say anything?
[18:32] <xreal> [E] No device present
[18:32] <xreal> what the heck..
[18:32] <shiftplusone> yeah, so it's like nothing is plugged in
[18:32] <xreal> perhaps the second HDMI is broken on the TV
[18:32] <xreal> let me replug it in some minutes
[18:33] <shiftplusone> you can reboot after you do, it should default to HDMI if it's detected.
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[18:33] <xreal> another question: I've just found out, there's no apt and aptitude on raspbmc. So I better should get XBian?
[18:33] <xreal> I'm working with debian a lot.
[18:34] <shiftplusone> eh? raspbmc should have apt
[18:34] <takkie> yup
[18:34] <xreal> apt-get | aptitude: command not found
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[18:34] <xreal> Uh, now the connection is gone.
[18:34] <xreal> Wait, this was the first start. Does it set itself?
[18:34] <xreal> Updates etc.?
[18:34] <xreal> Perhaps this is a reboot
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[18:35] <shiftplusone> I don't use raspbmc, so I have no idea what it does or doesn't do.
[18:35] <takkie> xreal: yes, raspbmc does update it self, when it was able to start xbmc.
[18:35] <takkie> so it's probably in reboot.
[18:35] <xreal> yes, it'
[18:35] <xreal> yes, it's up again
[18:35] <takkie> did it get apt?
[18:36] <xreal> takkie: wait, passwords stopped working
[18:36] <xreal> ahhh, perhaps for setting up, it uses root:root
[18:36] <xreal> perhaps no user "pi" works.
[18:36] <xreal> now*
[18:36] * gregc2 curses pi's
[18:36] <xreal> yes!
[18:36] <xreal> pi:raspberry works now
[18:37] <xreal> "Hi there! You have logged into your Pi for the first time"
[18:37] <xreal> Lier :)
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[18:39] <xreal> takkie: Yep, apt-get works now.
[18:40] <vexter> pksato tank you
[18:40] <vexter> hahaha
[18:41] <xreal> Isn't there a bootlogo or something built in firmware?
[18:41] <xreal> oh my, apt-get update takes a while :)
[18:41] <takkie> xreal: yes, there is.
[18:41] <xreal> takkie: normally, I should see this, don't I ?
[18:41] <xreal> (shouldn't I) sorry
[18:42] <takkie> xreal: depends on distro. The default is just a square with rainbow colours
[18:42] <takkie> not sure what is was on Raspbmc and how to change it.
[18:42] <gregc2> does anyone know why in raspbian using multiple wifi cards the pi will disconnect with a reason code 3?
[18:43] <takkie> gregc2: not sure what Code 3 says, but maybe it's shortage of power?
[18:44] <gregc2> boy, that sure seems like a great catch all
[18:44] <takkie> gregc2: i recently had my pi rebooting with multiple wifi's
[18:45] <gregc2> i think its just the sub system, i get so many issues with usb devices
[18:45] * gregc2 ponders
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[18:47] <[SLB]> hm where can i get discrete components like mains suppression capacitor besides on ebay?
[18:48] <shiftplusone> for cheap?
[18:48] <[SLB]> cheaper than 5 euros maybe, that's what i found on ebay
[18:48] <shiftplusone> other ebay-like places, like ali express.
[18:48] <[SLB]> hm let's see, thanks
[18:49] <shiftplusone> otherwise, your local electronics store, if you're lucky. Finally, you have all of the distributors like digikey and farnell which will have anything you might need, but will charge a kidney to ship it.
[18:50] <[SLB]> eh yea >_<
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[18:51] <IT_Sean> Order from a 'lectronics stie like farnell, etc.. and just lump it in with your next order (i.e. order it at the same time as you order something else, so you don't have to pay a kidney for shipping). Or do you need it now?
[18:52] <[SLB]> sounds good, not necessarily now, but not sure whether i'll have to order something more anytime soon
[18:52] <gregc2> takkie, does anyone know why in raspbian using multiple wifi cards the pi will disconnect with a reason code 3? this would suggest its actually a pi design problem
[18:52] <[SLB]> i bought some things from dx.com but doesn't seem to have such capacitors
[18:53] <takkie> gregc2: i haven't made a report of it. also, i'm using Arch on my pi.
[18:54] <shiftplusone> argh.... stupid captchas. Kept entering nonsense and being told I am not human and now my attempts are throttled. >=/
[18:54] <takkie> when i have more time i'll give it a shot tracking the problem
[18:54] <IT_Sean> shiftplusone: "follow directions" *needs improvement*
[18:54] <gregc2> sounds like a bad implementation of the usb subsystem if you ask me
[18:55] <IT_Sean> gregc2: the USB on the pi has always been a bit... enf.
[18:55] <shiftplusone> IT_Sean, I can follow directions fine. They could make theirr captchas readable or allow single character mistakes.
[18:55] <shiftplusone> *couldn't
[18:55] <gregc2> IT_Sean, could you recommend a production device with a decent usb subsystem
[18:55] <IT_Sean> Nope.
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[18:58] <xreal> my god... my Raspberry is at 30% just by running xbmc ?
[18:59] <SpeedEvil> xreal: The raspberry pi is not a high performance computing platform.
[18:59] <IT_Sean> That said, it can run xbmc without issue.
[18:59] <takkie> xreal: that's normal. Other OS's like Openelec and xbian do aswell
[19:00] <IT_Sean> I never had a problem w/ 1080p playback in OpenELEC when i was using it
[19:00] <xreal> SpeedEvil: yeah, but I thought, it's about 10-15 %: )
[19:00] <takkie> neither do i with arch + xbmc.
[19:00] <xreal> okay, let me run "3 floors down" (nice name for a band) and check hdmi.
[19:00] <IT_Sean> (O_o)
[19:00] <faLUCE> takkie: just found the solution https://www.pjrc.com/teensy/td_libs_OctoWS2811.html
[19:02] <takkie> faLUCE: nice, and thank you :)
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[19:15] <AbbyTheRat> Woo, faceplate for my project is cutout
[19:15] <AbbyTheRat> sadly, I did a ah haa..
[19:15] <AbbyTheRat> I did a rubbish job at cutting out the slot for the LCD
[19:16] * IT_Sean blinks
[19:16] <AbbyTheRat> waiting for the glue to dry as I needed to thicken it up where the LCD fits
[19:17] <IT_Sean> Careful.
[19:17] <AbbyTheRat> ?
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[19:18] <IT_Sean> I suspect you were about to say something other than "a rubbish job"
[19:18] <shiftplusone> I got superglue in my eye once.... good times in the emergency room. =D
[19:18] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, I was also going to delete the line but I accidently hit enter
[19:18] <IT_Sean> Anyway... got pics?
[19:18] <AbbyTheRat> I type as I think.. I'm sure you guys noticed that.
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[19:18] <AbbyTheRat> Not yet.. I'll take pictures once everything is in it place
[19:19] <AbbyTheRat> I'm trying to get as much as the woodworking done before I have to pick the kid up
[19:19] <IT_Sean> See... child processes cause system bottlenecks.
[19:19] <AbbyTheRat> hopefully if I can get it all done today
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[19:20] <AbbyTheRat> then I can do the process of fitting everything together.. ish
[19:20] <IT_Sean> This still the clock project?
[19:20] <AbbyTheRat> yes
[19:20] <IT_Sean> you still trying to use the clock face? or have you decided to go with the char LCD?
[19:20] <AbbyTheRat> I was going to go with both of them, actually
[19:21] <IT_Sean> Ahh.
[19:21] <IT_Sean> That still the plan?
[19:21] <AbbyTheRat> no, I stuck with the LCD for now
[19:22] <AbbyTheRat> I've also got some codes working reasonable well, but now it's going to be the fun stuff of managing threads
[19:22] <IT_Sean> What are you using to produce the alarm sound?
[19:22] <AbbyTheRat> not solved yet
[19:23] <AbbyTheRat> I've actually went down a different route, I was going to use the cabinet as my "case"
[19:23] <IT_Sean> but?
[19:23] <AbbyTheRat> but the space was so massive that.. it's like a what.. 2x6 inch in a 30x by 60 inch
[19:24] <IT_Sean> Yrah, that might look a bit off.
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[19:24] <AbbyTheRat> sooo.. I might do something else for it.. another pi project maybe
[19:24] <IT_Sean> so, you are making your own case?
[19:24] <IT_Sean> I just had an idea...
[19:25] <AbbyTheRat> or go back to my orginal idea of just using the space for a normal computer stuff and make a media/tv stand out of the cabinet
[19:25] <AbbyTheRat> http://kimondo.co.uk/raspberry-pi-led-scrolling-sign/
[19:25] <AbbyTheRat> maybe this.
[19:26] <IT_Sean> oooh
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[19:28] * IT_Sean ponders
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[19:28] <AbbyTheRat> shiftplusone: yeah.. ace and superglue.. ehhhghasd.. so how did they get it out in the end?
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[19:28] <IT_Sean> AbbyTheRat: very carefully.
[19:29] <AbbyTheRat> yes... but what chemial would they use to help disolve the glue
[19:30] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, you know the transparent suction cups used for cheap shower soap holders? they stuck something that looked like one of those onto my eye and pumped water it. No chemicals (other than water).
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[19:30] <AbbyTheRat> I bet they then either so carefully scrape it off *shudder* or a super high grit sandpaper
[19:30] <shiftplusone> *in
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[19:30] <AbbyTheRat> ahhh.. that would be the first step
[19:31] * AbbyTheRat is dumb
[19:31] <shiftplusone> after that, it was just a lot of pain and some eye healing ointment stuff.
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[19:32] <AbbyTheRat> oh, I'm using CE0 pin for that final pin that I need :)
[19:32] <shiftplusone> no issues with the module interfering?
[19:32] <AbbyTheRat> SPI is put back on the blacklist
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[19:32] <AbbyTheRat> since I'm only using the i2c
[19:33] <shiftplusone> didn't you need SPI for something?
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[19:33] <gregc2> anyone ever seen an rpi update fail with syntax error newline unexpected token... now rpi-update is broken
[19:33] <AbbyTheRat> the LCD backpack use i2c OR SPI
[19:33] <AbbyTheRat> that might be where the confusion came from
[19:33] <shiftplusone> ah
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[19:37] <AbbyTheRat> it been 15minutes.. I wonder if the glue has cured enough to finish cutting <_<
[19:37] <IT_Sean> lick it. If your tongue sticks to it, it's not done yet.
[19:38] <shiftplusone> I think it would absorb into the tongue rather than stick to it
[19:38] <IT_Sean> wanna bet?
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[19:38] <shiftplusone> depends
[19:38] <shiftplusone> whose tongue?
[19:38] <IT_Sean> yours.
[19:38] <shiftplusone> nope
[19:38] <IT_Sean> Gotta put your money where your mouth is, dude.
[19:39] <shiftplusone> heh
[19:39] <shiftplusone> extra points for the pun
[19:40] <AbbyTheRat> Yeah well, at it least it wasn't a worse pun.
[19:40] <AbbyTheRat> I've heard worse
[19:42] <AbbyTheRat> Ok I better see if I can finish this off
[19:42] <AbbyTheRat> Gotta stick to it
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[21:19] <xreal> SpeedEvil: Thanks!
[21:19] <xreal> My RaspBerry is working now.
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[21:19] <xreal> Is there a way, how to check my WiFi quality?
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[21:20] <SpeedEvil> Iwconfig ?
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[21:30] <Jusii> that and wavemon is another one
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[21:50] <AbbyTheRat> I nearly had it all done before I had to go and pick kid up
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[21:50] <IT_Sean> bummer
[21:50] <AbbyTheRat> I return and finished off what I didn't quite had done, Wally was really well behaved. So that's awesome
[21:50] <AbbyTheRat> have/not
[21:50] <AbbyTheRat> had*
[21:50] <AbbyTheRat> arghhh
[21:50] <AbbyTheRat> brain failed
[21:52] <IT_Sean> So... the case is done?
[21:52] <AbbyTheRat> no
[21:52] <AbbyTheRat> just faceplate
[21:52] <IT_Sean> oh
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[21:52] <AbbyTheRat> hmm.. I just realised I did the buttons back to front.. ah well, no biggie
[21:53] <AbbyTheRat> just means the select button is on the left the arrows, instead of the right like I Wanted
[21:53] <xreal> Why can't I suddenly connect to my raspbmc anymore via ssh? pi:raspberry, root:root - nothing works.
[21:54] <IT_Sean> 's it booted?
[21:54] <IT_Sean> ...and running?
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[22:00] <j3> hi
[22:01] <xreal> @IT_Sean: yes
[22:01] <xreal> @IT_Sean: "Access denied".
[22:01] <j3> can anyone recommend me an infraredlight for the noir camera module that is rather invisible to the human eye?
[22:03] <IT_Sean> j3: by definition, any infrared light will be invisible to the human eye
[22:04] <j3> yes, thats what i thought as well :)
[22:04] <j3> but according to reviews the recommended infrared module is rather visible
[22:04] <l_r> the module itself yes
[22:05] <l_r> but not the light
[22:05] <j3> sec, let me grab the details
[22:05] <IT_Sean> That's spectrum leakage (it's emitting some human visible light as well). That's unavoidable in a lot of the higher power ones, unless you are willing to pay mondo bucks for one. You may see a dim red glow.
[22:05] <j3> i see
[22:05] <j3> i am lacking any experience with infrared
[22:05] <IT_Sean> You will hardly notice it.
[22:06] <xreal> Funny, I can connect to my Raspberry by VNC, but it's sloooooooow
[22:06] <j3> hence my questions
[22:06] <j3> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/infrared-floodlights-illuminators/5245393/?origin=PSF_413281|acc
[22:06] <j3> this is what i was looking at
[22:06] <j3> and at "conrad.ch" some customers complained its highly visible
[22:07] <IT_Sean> as i said... it's called spectrum leakage, and is quite common in higher power IR illuminators.
[22:07] <IT_Sean> It's hardly noticible unless you are looking right at it.
[22:07] <IT_Sean> It'll generally be quite dim, to the point that the first time you see it, you will question if you actually saw it or not. :p
[22:08] <j3> i will give it a try
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[22:08] <j3> thank you for clarifying my doubts :)
[22:09] <IT_Sean> It's not like you are going to have a massive bright red light there... any leakage will be quite dim.
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[22:12] <j3> sounds fine
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[22:37] <psiklops> Hi. I just installed Raspian, upgraded and did a firmware upgrade also ... now sound card is not reconized
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[22:44] <TheHacker66> psiklops: was it working before?
[22:44] <xreal> I want to watch 1080p over my network. What MB/s does it need ?
[22:45] <xreal> When copying files from my computer over the network to raspberry SD, I'm getting 2.5 MB/s
[22:45] <TheHacker66> xreal: mine is 7mb/s and works well
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[22:45] <xreal> TheHacker66: damn...
[22:45] <pksato> 1080p on raw data or compressed?
[22:45] <TheHacker66> xreal: why do you copy files to the rpi
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[22:45] <TheHacker66> pksato: mkv's
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[22:46] <TheHacker66> xreal: I set up the rpi to download anything i need, and i stream from that to everywhere in the house
[22:46] <pksato> xreal: SD card probable is slow that network.
[22:47] <TheHacker66> i bought a 4tb hdd just for that purpose
[22:47] <TheHacker66> :D
[22:47] <xreal> TheHacker66: Can I read it from my HDD directly or do I need a streaming software?
[22:47] <psiklops> TheHacker66, yes
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[22:47] <TheHacker66> xbmc does everything on its own
[22:48] <xreal> TheHacker66: I mean, the data is on my computer. Can I just load the file over Samba and stream it?
[22:48] <psiklops> TheHacker66, i did --purge lxde-* lightdm* but nothing that has to do with sound
[22:48] <TheHacker66> sure
[22:49] <xreal> TheHacker66: who are you talking to? me or psiklops
[22:49] <TheHacker66> ^ @ xreal
[22:49] <xreal> ah ok :)
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[22:49] <AbbyTheRat> IT_Sean, since you were asking for pictures
[22:49] <AbbyTheRat> http://imgur.com/a/OwA30
[22:49] <xreal> VNC is incredible slow. I cant even move the mouse :(
[22:49] <IT_Sean> Kewl
[22:50] <TheHacker66> xreal: it's normal, it's an experimental support for now
[22:50] <TheHacker66> psiklops: try installing raspbmc on the sd after wiping it
[22:50] <AbbyTheRat> I need to get some screws and washers to fit and to figure out how and where to fit the breakout.. also to resolder (ugh) two of the pins where the wire got pulled off.. somehow
[22:51] <xreal> TheHacker66: ok
[22:51] <TheHacker66> the very latest gotham (v13) build has support for external sound cards
[22:51] <TheHacker66> with proper drivers
[22:51] <xreal> What port is the http-server running on?
[22:51] <xreal> 8080 ?
[22:51] <xreal> yeah
[22:51] <AbbyTheRat> and of course.. what design I want on the front..
[22:51] <TheHacker66> xreal: you mean xbmc's http port?
[22:51] <TheHacker66> or http server like apache?
[22:52] <psiklops> TheHacker66, ? why Raspbmc ? i just want to run goattracker in empty X
[22:52] <xreal> TheHacker66: does it have two? :)
[22:52] <xreal> TheHacker66: I think. it's 8080
[22:52] <TheHacker66> xreal: nvm :)
[22:52] <AbbyTheRat> I wish I had a tablesaw.. then I could at least cut this square.. ugh
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[22:52] <xreal> TheHacker66: nvm?
[22:53] <TheHacker66> xreal: you can change it with the built in app
[22:53] <TheHacker66> psiklops: oh sorry, thought you wanted to use it as a MC
[22:53] <TheHacker66> psiklops: anyway, it could help to get your issue fixed
[22:53] <psiklops> TheHacker66, :-) no problemo
[22:54] <psiklops> TheHacker66, yes? How that ?
[22:54] <TheHacker66> you could just try to install it and see if it works, after enabling it in the settings
[22:54] <TheHacker66> i mean, the sound card
[22:54] <psiklops> ok
[22:54] <TheHacker66> if it works, you can go and look for the drivers that devs used for the latest build
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[22:55] <TheHacker66> by the way, i'm struggling to make qemu access the internet
[22:56] <TheHacker66> i should do some tests with qemu-ifup to see if it works with a bridge
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[22:57] <TheHacker66> xreal: btw, nvm stands for "nevermind"
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[22:59] <xreal> TheHacker66: ah!
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[23:01] <xreal> d'oh. router says "signal strength: 40 % => 39 Mbit/s",
[23:01] <xreal> same floor, two rooms away :(
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[23:01] <xreal> What's this "browser app" under applications? It switches to a dialog, saying "connecting" and crashes after some minutes.
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[23:02] <ShorTie> wifi don't like walls
[23:03] <xreal> ShorTie: my room is 3 floors over the WiFi router. I can watch streams on my iPhone 3 GS without a problem.
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[23:04] <TheHacker66> xreal: mine is one floor away
[23:04] <TheHacker66> but i still had to buy an extender
[23:05] <TheHacker66> the elevator's shaft is in the middle
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[23:06] <TheHacker66> and the browser app, i never used it
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[23:07] <TheHacker66> would be a pain to surf the web with that anyway
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[23:07] <ShorTie> my wifi works great in the chicken houses, till i shut the doors, then it die's .. :/~
[23:08] <kevvlol> Hi. I just got my Pi and it came with a pre-setup SD card, i'm getting HDMI no signal when trying to turn it on
[23:08] <xreal> What's this "browser app" under applications? It switches to a dialog, saying "connecting" and crashes after some minutes.
[23:08] <ShorTie> did you have the tv on and tuned into the pi before you plugged the pi in ??
[23:09] <kevvlol> i'm just connecting it to my monitor but yeah it was waiting for a signal
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[23:09] <ShorTie> any adapter ??
[23:10] <kevvlol> an HDMI switch, i'll try it plugged in directly
[23:10] <ShorTie> what lights do you see blinking ??
[23:10] <ShorTie> ya, try that, pi doesn't like stuff in the middle
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[23:11] <kevvlol> still no signal
[23:11] <kevvlol> i just have the PWR LED on
[23:12] <ShorTie> no green light blinky ??
[23:12] <kevvlol> huh, nvm. it just started up
[23:12] <kevvlol> guess it must have been the adapter
[23:12] <kevvlol> now i need to find a keyboard/mouse -_-
[23:12] <CDR`> SSH into it
[23:13] <kevvlol> i don't have anything installed though
[23:13] <kevvlol> well, it's NOOBS
[23:14] <ShorTie> depending in the version, raspbian might be there
[23:14] <kevvlol> it is, but it's not currently installed.
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[23:15] <xreal> kevvlol: I had the same some hours ago. Is it a new device?
[23:16] <kevvlol> yeah, i just got it out of the box an hour ago
[23:16] <xreal> Mine needed to download all updates first and rebooted some times.
[23:16] <xreal> :)
[23:16] <xreal> Had the same today.
[23:16] <xreal> out of the box, no signal at all.
[23:16] <kevvlol> mine is just sitting at the pi recovery asking me to choose an OS
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[23:16] <xreal> kevvlol: http://download.raspbmc.com/downloads/bin/installers/raspbmc-win32.zip
[23:16] <TheHacker66> i'm using a hdmi -> converter without problems
[23:16] <xreal> if you are on windows...
[23:16] <xreal> Can anyone help me with this? What's this "browser app" under applications? It switches to a dialog, saying "connecting" and crashes after some minutes.
[23:16] <TheHacker66> hdmi -> vga converter
[23:17] <psiklops> TheHacker66, ha, i just took a look at alsamixer as sudo su and it works fine
[23:17] <kevvlol> I was going to go with openelec anyways, actually
[23:17] <kevvlol> seems to be the one everyone likes
[23:17] <ShorTie> yup, some adapters work, but then again some don't
[23:18] <TheHacker66> kevvlol: try raspbmc, it's better
[23:18] <psiklops> but as user it doesn't and i gpasswd -a myuser audio and did reboot also, still without success
[23:18] <psiklops> this is still in Rasbian
[23:18] <TheHacker66> is your current user in the audio group?
[23:18] <psiklops> TheHacker66, yes
[23:19] <ShorTie> what about 'sudo alsamixer', does that work ??
[23:19] <TheHacker66> type groups and check
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[23:19] <psiklops> ShorTie, That works strangely
[23:20] <TheHacker66> xreal: 23:06 < TheHacker66> and the browser app, i never used it
[23:20] <ShorTie> welcome to linux and having t run things with root permissions at times
[23:20] <TheHacker66> 23:07 < TheHacker66> would be a pain to surf the web with that anyway
[23:20] <kevvlol> better how TheHacker66? i'm wanting whichever is most powerful
[23:20] <xreal> TheHacker66: HTML browser? File browser?
[23:21] <psiklops> TheHacker66, strange... audio doesn't show with $ group but i add my user to audio
[23:21] <TheHacker66> kevvlol: xbmc is powerful on its own
[23:22] <TheHacker66> it depends, openelec is lighweight
[23:22] <TheHacker66> raspbmc is on the other hand the best if you would like to do other things with the pi
[23:23] <TheHacker66> because it uses a full debian distro
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[23:23] <TheHacker66> openelec is said to have bleeding-edge features
[23:24] <kevvlol> well, at the moment my only goal is to play movies/shows/etc on it.
[23:24] <sraue> so what you can do, and what the users do with raspbmc they cant do with OpenELEC?
[23:25] <TheHacker66> psiklops: then your user doesn't have permissions to use audio it seems
[23:25] <TheHacker66> xreal: internet browser
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[23:26] <TheHacker66> psiklops: you can add it to the audio group by typing useradd -G audio username
[23:27] <TheHacker66> xreal: file browser is in system -> files
[23:27] <TheHacker66> or smth like that, i'm using a custom theme
[23:29] <TheHacker66> sraue: adding new drivers is impossible in openelec, you'd have to rebuild and reinstall
[23:30] <psiklops> TheHacker66, did that :-)
[23:30] <psiklops> thanx
[23:31] <TheHacker66> does it work now?
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[23:32] <sraue> TheHacker66, new drivers should be requested and are added by the openelec devs, in this way they can be sure all ppl benefit from this instead every user must install the drivers byself
[23:32] <psiklops> TheHacker yeah!!
[23:32] <TheHacker66> psiklops: :)
[23:33] <xreal> TheHacker66: I wonder, why the internet browser never loads. xbmc gets exited
[23:33] <sraue> and it needs no reinstall, simply update and the drivers are there and must not be reinstalled after a OS update, they will be shipped with every version without the user must do anything
[23:33] <psiklops> :-) cool thanx a million ... but the command was > gpasswd -M MyUser audio
[23:33] <psiklops> useradd -G audio username gave me: user already exists
[23:33] <kevvlol> wow that was fast... openelec installed and running lol
[23:34] <TheHacker66> sraue: it means that if a new beta or alpha driver comes out, you'll have to wait for the devs to release the new build to make use of it?
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[23:35] <TheHacker66> instead of just dling it to your raspberry and loading it?
[23:35] <sraue> what for a new beta/alpha driver? there are regulary nightly builds to download, daily... or weekly... the last 6 weeks or so there was 6 OpenELEC-4.0 beta releases
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[23:36] <sraue> drivers cant be "just" downloaded and loaded they must match the kernel version, so in your case, TheHacker66, it means you have recompile the driver on your rpi everytime you want update a driver
[23:37] <TheHacker66> mkay, maybe it was not the best example
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[23:38] <TheHacker66> does openelec have package management?
[23:39] <sraue> OpenELEC uses XBMCs addon manager to provide (own) (and also binary) addons
[23:39] <TheHacker66> i meant apt-get
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[23:39] <sraue> you can install, deinstall, update, downgrade the "addons" via xbmcs addon manager
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[23:40] <sraue> no need for apt-get if you can install/deinstall/update/downgrade software with your tvremote
[23:40] <TheHacker66> you don't get it, i'm talking about other software, not xbmc-related
[23:40] <sraue> even - but not for RPi systems - Chromium is avaible in OpenELECs Addon repo
[23:41] <sraue> ^^^ i mean other software
[23:41] <TheHacker66> i have installed irssi, the irc client which i'm writing from
[23:41] <TheHacker66> pyload
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[23:42] <sraue> http://openelec.tv/forum/126-3rd-party/69636-irssi-for-rpi
[23:43] <sraue> http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Add-on:pyload
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[23:45] <kevvlol> So how might I go about accessing my windows shared media file on openelc?
[23:45] <kevvlol> elec*
[23:46] <TheHacker66> sraue: do, after installing it you can use progs in xbmc?
[23:47] <Squarepy> kevvlol, that would be a samba share?
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[23:47] <TheHacker66> i don't know how that works, since i'm used to install stuff as i would on any linux distro
[23:47] <kevvlol> i have no idea actually, i've simply shared my media folder with everyone on the network Squarepy
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[23:51] <kevvlol> nvm, got it `~` had to change some sharing options on the main PC
[23:52] <TheHacker66> kevvlol: try going to videos -> files -> add videos -> explore -> windows sharing (smb) and see if the shared folder comes up
[23:52] <TheHacker66> in xbmc
[23:55] <kevvlol> damn it's running flawless.. 1080p watchmen with no problems lol
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