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IRC Log for 2014-04-26

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[0:23] <Squarepy> kevvlol, I have a neat wireless keyboard with tracking pad, suits tv couch control
[0:24] <kevvlol> I guess.... i mean... all i want is arrow keys -_- i feel like a keyboard is overkill
[0:24] <Squarepy> helps with a youtube search, just saying
[0:25] <kevvlol> well i'm just running xbmc atm. i haven't considered youtube/netflix yet
[0:25] <Squarepy> kevvlol, about the wireless, there are quite a few things to check, possibly the encryption
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[0:27] <kevvlol> we have WPA security atm, that's about the only thing
[0:27] <kevvlol> I don't really see any way to configure any sort of network settings on openelec though
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[0:28] <Squarepy> there should be system settings under the openelec tab
[0:28] <Squarepy> or network etc
[0:28] <Squarepy> far right?
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[0:30] <Boingo> Hello everyone. I have a WiFi USB dongle (Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter) in my Pi. The IP is staticly assigned. When I connect a cable to the Ethernet port, I can ping the WIFi address from other computers on the network. When I unplug the ethernet cable, I can no longer ping the WiFi address.
[0:30] <Boingo> Any ideas?
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[0:31] <kevvlol> yeah Squarepy, but no way to configure any network settings. just HTTP proxy and the other simply tells me i'm not connected
[0:31] <sraue> if you click on the connection there will be a dialog where you can click "edit" or so
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[0:37] <kevvlol> http://puu.sh/8noV5.jpg here's all i have as far as internet settings go sraue / Squarepy
[0:37] <sraue> go to system/openelec
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[0:38] <sraue> not system/settings (which are the xbmc settings)
[0:38] <Squarepy> indeed
[0:38] <sraue> kevvlol, also which version you use? you should use the last betas
[0:39] <kevvlol> how would i access that? and i'm not sure, i installed from NOOBS but wouldn't be against installing the latest beta if i need it
[0:41] <sraue> noobs contains openelec 3.2 download the diskimage from http://openelec.tv/get-openelec/download/viewcategory/10-raspberry-pi-builds extract and write with dd/win32diskimager to your sdcard
[0:42] <sraue> but generally you should have system/openelec also in 3.2, if not then its because you installed a own skin then look for OpenELEC settings in programs
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[0:44] <Squarepy> kevvlol, please look around on the subtabs, you will find imo
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[0:47] <kevvlol> ahhhhhhhhhhhhh i found it, under programs lol
[0:49] <Squarepy> \o/
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[0:56] <vdr> noob here
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[0:57] <Squarepy> where?
[0:57] <rikkib> Over there
[0:57] * Squarepy squints
[0:57] <vdr> having big issues with my new raspberry pi, boots off of noobs chip, when I flash a raspian chip and then go through config and tell it to use the gui.... not good
[0:58] <vdr> here is here? lol
[0:58] <vdr> Akron, Ohio USA
[0:58] <Squarepy> what does it mean: 'not good'
[0:58] <vdr> not good = boots up the raspberry, no menus
[0:58] <vdr> I can right click and get a white font and black background pop up
[0:59] <rikkib> reboot
[0:59] <rikkib> ?
[0:59] <vdr> tried
[0:59] <vdr> tried reflashing
[0:59] <rikkib> after raspi-config
[0:59] <vdr> tried new SD #10
[0:59] <vdr> when you are done configging it reboots
[0:59] <Squarepy> ok, it is a standard noob instsall?
[0:59] <Squarepy> install*
[1:00] <vdr> I downloaded a version of rasbian? let me get the file name
[1:00] <Squarepy> you mentioned 'noobs' right?
[1:01] <vdr> I said I was a noob to the raspberry pi
[1:01] <Squarepy> http://www.raspberrypi.org/introducing-the-new-out-of-box-software-noobs/
[1:01] <rikkib> Procedure... dd raspian to sd, boot raspian raspi-config runs automatically... Do config stuff including resize sd card... reboot
[1:01] <vdr> filename is 2014-01-07-wheezy-rasbian.img
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[1:01] <vdr> used imagewriter
[1:02] <vdr> Ubuntu imagewriter
[1:02] <rikkib> dd imagewriter same same
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[1:02] <vdr> config menu seemed perfect
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[1:02] <vdr> cli seems very nice
[1:02] <vdr> just won't go into gui
[1:02] <Squarepy> does it drop down to terminal?
[1:02] <rikkib> do you have dhcp on your local net?
[1:02] <vdr> tried, no
[1:02] <vdr> yes
[1:02] <vdr> via router
[1:03] <rikkib> raspi-config has a selection to setup gui
[1:03] <vdr> tried HDMI and the TV port
[1:03] <rikkib> ssh?
[1:03] <vdr> selection?
[1:04] <vdr> didn't try ssh, just trying simple stuff first
[1:04] <rikkib> have you tried padiwon
[1:04] <vdr> padiwon? no
[1:04] <rikkib> starwars
[1:04] <rikkib> judi
[1:04] <Squarepy> ?
[1:04] <vdr> rib away, I can take it
[1:04] <kevvlol> in openelec i have 4 network interface settings, eth0/1 and wlan0/1, does it matter which i choose?
[1:05] <rikkib> I am being a bit silly sorry... with the start wars speak
[1:05] <Squarepy> kevvlol, well you were doing wireless
[1:05] <vdr> it's OK.... I pay homage
[1:05] <kevvlol> trying to, does it matter 0 vs 1?
[1:05] <Squarepy> wlan0 is standard afaik
[1:05] <sraue> kevvlol, it looks you use openelec 3.0.x... install the latest beta, you will be more happy
[1:05] <vdr> I did not mention. I am using 16/9 TV
[1:05] <rikkib> vrd so you see nothing on hdmi screen?
[1:05] <vdr> o yes
[1:06] <rikkib> vdr,
[1:06] <vdr> cli is perfect
[1:06] <kevvlol> is there an easy way to update? or do i just download the latest zip and extract to my SD after formatting?
[1:06] <vdr> rasbian config is nice
[1:06] <Squarepy> vdr,
[1:06] <vdr> yes
[1:06] <Squarepy> so type 'startx'
[1:06] <sraue> kevvlol, you need NOOBS? if not simply write the diskimage to the sdcard with dd/win32diskimager
[1:06] <vdr> did, hangs after I get the berry... no "edge menus" all I can do is the right click
[1:06] <vdr> pop up menu
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[1:07] <kevvlol> no clue what that is tbh sraue , lol
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[1:07] <vdr> exit seems to work but it never shuts down
[1:07] <vdr> I say seems to work because after I click exit it won't let me right click any more
[1:07] <Squarepy> command is : sudo shutdown -h now
[1:07] <sraue> kevvlol, http://openelec.tv/get-openelec/download/viewcategory/10-raspberry-pi-builds "[Diskimage] OpenELEC Beta - Raspberry Pi ARM Version:3.95.6"
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[1:07] <rikkib> maybe overscan needs setting up
[1:07] <vdr> Squarepy, yeah from cli but not from gui
[1:08] <vdr> oversan... yeah I googled and found a lot... too much, have a good link?:)
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[1:08] <Squarepy> so x-server is started without fatal error
[1:08] <kevvlol> how about the whole 'dd/win32diskimager' sraue ?
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[1:09] <kevvlol> or are those 2 different programs
[1:09] <Squarepy> vdr, you'll have to edit config.txt in the boot partition
[1:09] <kevvlol> it's slowly coming together now...
[1:09] <Squarepy> for the overscan
[1:09] <sraue> kevvlol, depending if you use linux or windows you use dd or win32diskimager to write the image to the sdcard
[1:09] <kevvlol> gotcha lol, took me a moment.
[1:10] <Squarepy> vdr, resource, http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
[1:10] <sraue> kevvlol, http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php/Installing_OpenELEC_on_Raspberry_Pi#tab=Windows
[1:10] <vdr> yeah nano... I haven't found a good understanding via googling...
[1:10] <vdr> o, thanks
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[1:11] <vdr> rikkib,
[1:11] <kevvlol> while i'm installing a new version, i have a usb 3.0 thumb drive, is there a list of compatible usb 3.0 drives that i can run xbmc on as opposed to SD card?
[1:11] <vdr> rikkib, do or do not, there is no try
[1:12] <vdr> IBB (terminator)
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[1:12] <rikkib> bye bye
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[1:12] <rikkib> vdr, I not understand
[1:12] <Squarepy> o/
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[1:12] <sraue> kevvlol, not sure if a usb stick brings much this days, other then that every working USB stick should work
[1:13] <rikkib> So far it sounds when you enter the gui (startx)
[1:13] <vdr> yoda, when he pulled the xwing out of the swamp
[1:13] <vdr> IBB, I'll be back
[1:13] <rikkib> you see nothing but you can right click
[1:13] <kevvlol> oh, i've just been seeing 'use usb stick it makes everything faster it will change your life' lol
[1:13] <vdr> I see a background with a berry
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[1:13] <vdr> I can right click and get a black background with white font popup
[1:13] <rikkib> Ok
[1:13] <vdr> no edge menus
[1:14] <vdr> the popup menu doesn't seem to work
[1:14] <rikkib> That means the rest of the stuff (menu) is oof screen
[1:14] <rikkib> off
[1:14] <vdr> I was using a sandisk of unknown origin MicroSD in an adapter so I went and got a nice new SD
[1:14] <vdr> off the edges of the display
[1:14] <vdr> right?
[1:14] <rikkib> Yes
[1:14] <vdr> ok...
[1:14] <vdr> IBB
[1:14] <vdr> reading
[1:14] <rikkib> There is a setting is a file
[1:15] <mhilmi> Has anyone had experience with Pi Cobbler tweaking out their GPIO? Whenever I connect the ribbon cable, my GPIO goes haywire and none of the readings stabilize. Tried with 2 different Pis and 2 different Cobblers.
[1:15] <vdr> Squarepy, gave me a link, going to read about modifying config
[1:15] <rikkib> /boot/config.txt
[1:15] <sraue> kevvlol, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGFdQVwc8Q0 not watched fully, but i think thats the right way
[1:16] <rikkib> there you can add overscane setting
[1:16] <rikkib> overscan
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[1:17] <kevvlol> do i need the diskimage version sraue? it's taking ~20min vs a minute for the non diskimage
[1:17] <rikkib> overscan accepts negative or positive to resize the screen
[1:17] <sraue> its the easyer way the diskimage version
[1:17] <sraue> kevvlol, you need for downloading?
[1:17] <sraue> i mean: you mean for downloading?
[1:18] <kevvlol> yeah
[1:18] <kevvlol> actually nvm, re-downloaded the diskimage one and it's going fast now lol
[1:18] <rikkib> vdr, ssh into the rpi and edit /boot/config.txt
[1:19] <sraue> ok, so a bad mirror :-)
[1:19] <rikkib> nano /boot/config.txt
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[1:19] <rikkib> reboot
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[1:47] <kevvlol> latest beta seems much better, sraue lol. setup the wlan connection at the start and seems to have connected
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[1:51] <kevvlol> although connected, it doesn't seem to be able to access my shared windows folders
[1:56] <kevvlol> there it goes... very bad connection up here though... just gonna run a cable to it -_-
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[2:27] <kevvlol> anyone here use an xbmc app for android?
[2:28] <tonsofpcs> like the remote control apps?
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[2:35] <kevvlol> yeah tonsofpcs, but nvm, mine seems to be working alright now
[2:35] <kevvlol> on openelec, how can i just get a main button (like pictures/videos/music/programs etc) that just goes to whichever directory i set it to (i want one for movies)
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[3:02] <cousteau> are there micro-USB power supplies for sale usually? I was thinking on using my MP3 player 230V-to-USB trafo + a USB to mini-USB cable, but just realized the trafo outputs 400 mA and I need 1 A
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[3:03] <plugwash> Dunno where you live but round here the tricky bit is getting a decent quality one at a reasonable price
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[3:05] <plugwash> I wouldn't trust the independent phone shops not to sell me the sort of tat that you get on ebay direct from china and the big chain phone shops have pretty high prices
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[3:05] <plugwash> where "round here" is the UK
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[3:13] <cousteau> ok, option B would be to solder/connect a 5V trafo to whatever pins are connected to the microUSB
[3:13] <cousteau> or build an RPi trafo from a 5V trafo and a µUSB cable
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[3:17] <cousteau> does a PC USB 2.0 supply 1 amp?
[3:17] <plugwash> Depends on the PC
[3:18] <cousteau> hm, my local electronics store sells RPi and RPi accessories
[3:18] <cousteau> RPi: 44 €
[3:18] <cousteau> (fortunately I already got one)
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[3:27] <cousteau> I'm reading the part in which they say that "a 1A source may not actually be 1A"; how much may it actually be?
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[3:28] <cousteau> because my local shop offers a "1A" wall-to-USB for 4€, but doesn't give many details
[3:29] <cousteau> ...it actually only gives 3 details: the price, what it does, and the output amps
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[4:23] <johnc-> hmm, I ran alsamixer and changed output levels, it doesn't effect the 3.5mm jack, is only the hdmi seen by alsa?
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[4:34] <Duxducis> How can I install opencv into my pi without having to wait for it to compile?
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[4:55] <[Saint]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eaiNsFhtI8
[4:55] <[Saint]> I always said the raspberrypi was a cellphone from the mid 00's.
[4:55] <[Saint]> This guy just made it a reality.
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[7:18] <vdr> anybody home?
[7:19] <vdr> noob needs 1 quick question answered
[7:20] <vdr> I have the noobs v1.3.2 sd card, it asks what OS i want, if I choose what does it do to the chip
[7:20] <vdr> I made another chip but I just can't get the video to work
[7:21] <oval> it installs the OS on the chip but does not destroy the noobs stuff i believe
[7:21] <vdr> I'd like to pull the image off the OEM chip and copy it to a new chip, any help using Ubuntu
[7:21] <oval> so you will be able to hold shift and reinstall whatever OS you want later
[7:21] <vdr> got it
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[7:30] <ReggieUK> g'night guys
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[8:52] <RahulAN> Hi all
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[8:52] <RahulAN> i have connected my pi with ssh and screen also
[8:53] <RahulAN> i am trying to run a Qt program in from terminal it is not running saying : Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: but as if i startx and run from lxterminal it is working fine
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[8:57] <Feigr> RahulAN: sounds like the programs requires X to be running
[8:57] <Feigr> program*
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[8:59] <RahulAN> Yes..
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[8:59] <RahulAN> I need it to run from ssh to the screen there..
[9:00] <RahulAN> do i startx?
[9:00] <Triffid_Hunter> RahulAN: you want to run it over ssh? google "ssh X forwarding tutorial"
[9:00] <Triffid_Hunter> but it mostly boils down to ssh -Y pi@rpi 'program'
[9:01] <Triffid_Hunter> RahulAN: or do you want to start it via SSH but have it display in an X instance on the rpi? in that case, DISPLAY=:0.0 program
[9:02] <RahulAN> DISPLAY=0.0 is command?
[9:02] <Triffid_Hunter> no it just sets an environment variable that tells the program how to find the X server
[9:02] <RahulAN> Ohhkkl
[9:03] <Triffid_Hunter> the X server must already be running for that. if you need a new X instance with only that program running, try xinit `which program`
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[9:49] <NGC3982> Does the over clock setting i raspi-config work over whatever is set in /boot/config.txt?
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[10:45] <rikkib> NGC3982, /usr/bin/raspi-config is a human readable script file. Open it in an editor.
[10:46] <rikkib> nano /usr/bin/raspi-config
[10:47] <NGC3982> rikkib: I see. The content is the actual used setting when opening the file?
[10:47] <rikkib> I think so
[10:48] <rikkib> from memory
[10:49] <rikkib> I have done extensive editing of that file however ASB will not accept input from me.
[10:50] <rikkib> I want it to conform with that standards set in Linux distro's over many years
[10:50] <rikkib> able to set root pass
[10:50] <rikkib> dns
[10:50] <rikkib> routing
[10:50] <rikkib> fixed ip etc
[10:50] <rikkib> hostname
[10:53] <rikkib> raspi-config does nothing that can't be done on the command line anyway.
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[11:43] <eutactic> Is it true that the GPIO pins on the raspi are connected directly to the CPU?
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[11:43] <mgottschlag> eutactic: yes
[11:44] <mgottschlag> although the "CPU" is a SoC (System on Chip)
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[11:45] <eutactic> mgottschlag: thanks
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[12:13] <shiftplusone_ph> 'morning
[12:14] <ShorTie> Good Morning
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[12:26] <shiftplusone_ph> How are the things?
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[12:26] <ppq> things are good
[12:26] <ppq> also, coffee
[12:26] <ShorTie> so far so good, but the day is still young
[12:27] <shiftplusone_ph> Excellent
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[12:49] <RahulAN> I got it working.. by xinit <program> and i got the window there on screen of Rpi
[12:50] <RahulAN> can it be done that i can have a pointer also on screen via ssh
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[12:57] <Xark> RahulAN: Yes, if you connect with -X option and use an X session.
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[12:57] <Xark> RahulAN: This may be of help http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-tunneling-xwindows-securely-over-ssh/
[12:58] <Triffid_Hunter> RahulAN: you want to remote control the rpi's X session? you probably want synergy or similar for that
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[12:58] <abhvym> vlc server dies after some time on raspbian.
[12:58] <abhvym> is vlc not suitable for raspberry?
[12:59] * Xark notes X over SSH is not VNC (just X protocol [optionally compressed].
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[13:04] <RahulAN> but here also we need start x
[13:05] <RahulAN> i want that application runing via xinit ./app sould also have cursor
[13:05] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah xvnc is something different, allows you to attach to a running remote X session rather than forwarding your local X session over ssh for a remote program to use
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[13:06] <Triffid_Hunter> RahulAN: synergy allows you to share mouse, keyboard between multiple networked computers as if they were a single computer with many screens
[13:06] <RahulAN> synergy
[13:06] <RahulAN> is it a command?
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[13:07] <RahulAN> how to use it? Triffid_Hunter
[13:08] <shiftplusone_2> you're better off googling, RahulAN.
[13:09] <RahulAN> doing that :P
[13:09] <RahulAN> but it looks similar like startx
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[13:15] <RahulAN> i have an application which have 2 buttons and i have to click it to execute, with xinit ./QTMP it is showin me the gui of the App on black screen but no mouse there, i need mouse too.
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[13:23] <RahulAN> even if i execute xinit midori i gets cursor and browse
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[14:37] <Oldmanbeefjerky> hey all i has mah crazy idea
[14:39] <Oldmanbeefjerky> i have this song i want to play, but the problem is, it requires two instruments playing simultaneously on my keyboard, so i figure, hey, perfect time to use the rpi
[14:39] <Oldmanbeefjerky> i want to make a midi repeater, to just record and then replay midi notes
[14:39] <Oldmanbeefjerky> does anything like that exist?
[14:40] <Oldmanbeefjerky> also, is there a way to make the raspberry pi load faster? it normally takes 30 seconds to boot up
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> use a faster SD
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> you mean boot faster?
[14:41] <shiftplusone_2> arch boots a fair bit faster than raspbian
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[14:43] <raalex> how often to you reboot it to make startup time an issue?
[14:46] <Oldmanbeefjerky> not often, before i just used it as a moviepayer
[14:46] <shiftplusone_2> All other things being equal, I would much prefer a system that boots quicker. I don't think it's an issue as much as it is a minor annoyance.
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[14:47] <Oldmanbeefjerky> so, about the midi?
[14:48] <Oldmanbeefjerky> is there a midi interface already made for rpi?
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[14:50] <Oldmanbeefjerky> it sucks that my keyboard doesnt already have it built in
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[14:50] <shiftplusone_2> wouldn't there be thousands of USB midi interfaces?
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[14:52] <Oldmanbeefjerky> i havent found one yet but my searches dont seem to work
[14:53] <Oldmanbeefjerky> my internet wont load some pages
[14:53] <Oldmanbeefjerky> facebook wont load, but if i open a link to a facebook page it goes fine
[14:54] <shiftplusone_2> You use facebook to google? =S
[14:54] <Oldmanbeefjerky> no
[14:54] <Oldmanbeefjerky> facebook is an example
[14:54] <Oldmanbeefjerky> google similarly wont loud
[14:54] <Oldmanbeefjerky> load*
[14:55] <shiftplusone_2> strange
[14:55] <shiftplusone_2> In any case, searching usb midi on ebay shows up a lot of devices.
[14:55] <shiftplusone_2> but I have seen people do MIDI stuff over gpio as well
[14:55] <shiftplusone_2> don't have any links handy though
[14:56] <Oldmanbeefjerky> i meant for raspberry pi
[14:56] <Oldmanbeefjerky> virtual interfaces
[14:56] <Oldmanbeefjerky> as in programs that handle the midi signals
[14:56] <Oldmanbeefjerky> dang, i really dont want to have to do this from my computer
[14:57] <Oldmanbeefjerky> even though i do have a 10M usb extension cord now
[14:57] <shiftplusone_2> eh? Do you use linux on your computer?
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[14:58] <Oldmanbeefjerky> no
[14:59] <Oldmanbeefjerky> windows
[14:59] <shiftplusone_2> ah, what software?
[14:59] <Oldmanbeefjerky> ill make the software
[14:59] <shiftplusone_2> so.... what can the computer do that a pi can't in this case? =S
[14:59] <shiftplusone_2> (I am not 100% clear what the problem is)
[15:00] <Oldmanbeefjerky> run windows
[15:00] <Oldmanbeefjerky> i need a pre-existing interface to work with
[15:00] <Oldmanbeefjerky> since i have no idea how to make a program that reads and outputs midi on the rpi, but for windows such programs are apparently simple
[15:01] <Oldmanbeefjerky> and visual basic i beleive has inbuilt midi handlers
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[15:02] <Oldmanbeefjerky> so, for the rpi, i dont want to have to, nor have any idea on how, to make the drivers, or software that handles the midi
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[15:03] <shiftplusone_2> You shouldn't need to. So you have a keyboard with a MIDI output and you want to interface it with a pi? But then you mentioned virtual interfaces and that's where you lost me.
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[15:04] <shiftplusone_2> Or maybe I am just not the person to address this and should shut up, I don't know.
[15:04] <Oldmanbeefjerky> yes, a program that interfaces the midi data with the rpi
[15:05] <Oldmanbeefjerky> i currently have two options, one is a usb type A cable i think it is, the one with the square shaped plug
[15:05] <Oldmanbeefjerky> the other is a usb to midi converter
[15:05] <Oldmanbeefjerky> oh ok then
[15:05] <shiftplusone_2> I am certain that it will just show up as a USB HID device which will be very easy to work with.
[15:06] <Oldmanbeefjerky> :(
[15:06] <Oldmanbeefjerky> mhmmmmm
[15:10] <pksato> http://www.siliconstuff.com/2012/08/serial-port-midi-on-raspberry-pi.html
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[15:12] <pksato> a hack to use std rs232 rpi uart as midi uart.
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[15:13] <Oldmanbeefjerky> how would that differ from midi over usb?
[15:13] <pksato> yes. this hack is raw midi. no alsa or oss driver.
[15:14] <Oldmanbeefjerky> i see
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[15:14] <Oldmanbeefjerky> page is still loading
[15:15] <pksato> and flow links ...
[15:15] <pksato> Oldmanbeefjerky: you have a updated av?
[15:16] <Oldmanbeefjerky> whats an AV?
[15:16] <pksato> AntiVirus.
[15:16] <Oldmanbeefjerky> yes, why?
[15:16] <Oldmanbeefjerky> well, avg is on my system though stuck, i cant uninstall it
[15:16] <pksato> a good quality internet connection?
[15:16] <Oldmanbeefjerky> not really
[15:17] <Oldmanbeefjerky> its wireless from my phone, being used as a mobile hotspot
[15:17] <pksato> some AV make internet slow or other issues.
[15:18] <Oldmanbeefjerky> annoying thing is some pages dont load, and others load super fast, like if i want to open facebook, it takes 5 minutes to load crappily without any sytlesheets ,just raw text
[15:18] <Oldmanbeefjerky> but if i start with a link to a facebook page, it loads immediately
[15:18] <Oldmanbeefjerky> but all the same my internet is still slow
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[15:19] <pksato> humm... ISP make facebook fast, nas others slow.
[15:19] <pksato> and
[15:21] <Oldmanbeefjerky> weird, the link to siliconstuff.com opens up but your link is way slow
[15:23] <pksato> or you phone is not to good as hotspot or you isp is bad.
[15:24] <Oldmanbeefjerky> neh, just crap reception
[15:24] <Oldmanbeefjerky> bad reception plus lower night time bandwidth
[15:24] <Oldmanbeefjerky> in my area everybody uses wireless internet since we have no adsl
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[15:26] <raalex> anyone got a good tutorial for setting up a spotify server on the rpi?
[15:26] <Oldmanbeefjerky> the website seems to be the issue here, i can browse other sites just fine
[15:26] <raalex> all I find are description that require you to install a specific OS
[15:27] <raalex> that's just made to be a spotify server
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[15:27] <raalex> I want to just install it as a demon on raspbian
[15:27] <raalex> I found one way but that didn't support 2 step authentication for facebook
[15:28] <raalex> which I definitely do not want to turn off
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[15:29] <pksato> related too, http://www.varal.org/ttymidi/
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[15:31] <Oldmanbeefjerky> true, but thats for arduino
[15:31] <Oldmanbeefjerky> but thats basically what im after for rpi
[15:31] <pksato> not only for arduino
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[15:32] <Oldmanbeefjerky> but given the trouble mayhaps i should better just on remote computer controller instead, i do have some bluetooth transceivers i need to use after all
[15:32] <Oldmanbeefjerky> otherwise ill just have to hook up to the computer
[15:33] <pksato> Silicon Stuff have a hack to make rpi uart as midi. and ttymidi make it usable for any std midi (alsa) application.
[15:34] <Oldmanbeefjerky> ah. ok well ill note that and be leavin now, im tired
[15:34] <Oldmanbeefjerky> thanks for the help
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[16:02] <apoc_r> hello! I'm using raspbian and removed the old window manager, installed xfce which works, when manually started, but lightdm isn't triggered on boot.. what can I do?
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[16:21] <shiftplusone_2> apoc_r, is the init script enabled?
[16:23] <apoc_r> shiftplusone_2 I'm a bit of a noob, how do I check that?
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[16:23] <shiftplusone_2> I guess a noob-friendly way would be to install rcconf
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[16:38] <gbaman> how does one switch between 3.2 and 3.10 linux kernel branch for the pi?
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[16:39] <apoc_r> shiftplusone_2, I just installed and started rcconf.. lightdm is marked there..
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[16:51] <gbaman> or how does one upgrade their current kernel?
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[16:52] <verkgw> gbaman: as in above the version in the repos?
[16:53] <gbaman> no
[16:53] <gbaman> am running a really old version
[16:53] <gbaman> 3.2.0.4
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[17:01] <verkgw> you on raspbian?
[17:02] <verkgw> gbaman: ^
[17:02] <gbaman> verkgw: technically
[17:02] <gbaman> long story
[17:02] <gbaman> but yes, using its packages
[17:03] <verkgw> gbaman: so yurely "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
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[17:03] <halvar> good day
[17:03] <verkgw> *surely
[17:03] <verkgw> gbaman: does that not work?
[17:03] <gbaman> does that touch thought the kernel.img file?
[17:04] <verkgw> it'll update the kernel package
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[17:04] <halvar> I have a pretty horrible noob question: I dd'ed a recent raspian image to the SD card and I am trying to boot my raspberry for the first time from it. The power LED glows, and after powering up, I can see a quick pattern of SD card access; but I never get to see any video signal. What's the best way to diagnose what is going on ?
[17:04] <verkgw> if you aren't running a custom kernel it should be fine
[17:05] <gbaman> hmm
[17:05] <gbaman> it isnt touching the kernel.img in /boot
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[17:06] <verkgw> well if you updat and upgrade and the reboot and check the output of uname -r
[17:06] <NuSuey> oh hello folks, anyone with experience with the lightpack and the boblightd? can't get it to work :/
[17:06] <NuSuey> getting failed to connect to boblightd at start every time
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[17:07] <xreal> Damn, VNC uses 99% CPU.
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[17:12] <raalex> what do you mean?
[17:12] <raalex> I have CPU at 100% all the time when I access the rpi
[17:12] <shiftplusone_2> apoc_r, sorry, was afk. Did you uninstall lxde?
[17:12] <raalex> but it doesn't interfere with other applications at all
[17:13] <raalex> I can watch a full hd movie and still use vnc no problem
[17:13] <shiftplusone_2> gbaman, the kernel is in the raspberrypi-bootloader package
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[17:13] <apoc_r> shiftplusone_2, yes.. uninstalled what I could find that was connected to lxde..
[17:13] <gbaman> ohh
[17:13] <apoc_r> startx is messed up though, startxfce does the trick to get it going manually
[17:13] <shiftplusone_2> apoc_r, in that case, lightdm might be configured to just start lxde and it fails. Check /etc/lightdm.conf or something like that.
[17:14] <gbaman> shiftplusone_2: is there a way to select which branch?
[17:14] <shiftplusone_2> gbaman, nuh, if you want that, you have to use rpi-update (which I don't recommend)
[17:14] <apoc_r> shiftplusome_2, I did, I have currently commented every line in the config, because I compared it to my notebook, where lightdm works with xfce
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[17:15] <shiftplusone_2> apoc_r, when you boot, does it try to start X (do you see any sort of flicker) or is it always just console?
[17:15] <apoc_r> just the console
[17:15] <shiftplusone_2> =/
[17:15] <shiftplusone_2> what if you run /etc/init.d/lightdm start ?
[17:15] <shiftplusone_2> or service lightdm start
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[17:16] <shiftplusone_2> halvar, can you ssh in or something?
[17:16] <halvar> shiftplusone_2: does the raspbian image enable ssh on boot?
[17:16] <shiftplusone_2> halvar, yeah
[17:16] <halvar> ah ok
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[17:16] <halvar> including dhcp?
[17:16] <shiftplusone_2> yeah
[17:16] <halvar> ok
[17:16] <halvar> cool
[17:16] <halvar> let me try then (hadn't hooked it up to network yet)
[17:17] <halvar> brb
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[17:17] <apoc_r> shiftplusone_2, it just says [OK] starting light display manager: lightdm
[17:17] <gbaman> shiftplusone_2: what version is it? 3.10?
[17:17] <gbaman> the bootloader package?
[17:17] <shiftplusone_2> gbaman, not sure.
[17:18] <xreal> raalex: Really? Without VNC I'm at about 5% max.
[17:18] <shiftplusone_2> gbaman, did you install using the foundation's image or using the netinstall?
[17:18] <gbaman> shiftplusone_2: haha... well...
[17:18] <gbaman> shiftplusone_2: it is a little more complicated than that..
[17:18] <shiftplusone_2> ...go on.... O_o
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[17:19] <raalex> i mean acessing it
[17:19] <raalex> seems to use all available resources
[17:19] <raalex> but I can still watch a movie just fine, even when I access via vnc
[17:19] <gbaman> shiftplusone_2: is a virtual image built by LTSP
[17:19] <raalex> no idea what the problem iis
[17:19] <NuSuey> anyone who could help with boblightd & my lightpack ? :/ would love to be able to run it
[17:19] <gbaman> shiftplusone_2: for a project i have been working on for schools https://github.com/gbaman/RaspberryPi-LTSP
[17:19] <gbaman> problem is apparently I have been using an old kernel
[17:20] <gbaman> (few things were hard coded :) )
[17:20] * shiftplusone_2 looks up 'LTSP'
[17:20] <gbaman> basically, OS for pis is stored on a server
[17:20] <gbaman> pis boot via ethernet
[17:20] <shiftplusone_2> got it
[17:20] <gbaman> means in a classroom, you manage one virtual master pi os
[17:21] <gbaman> then all the pis use it
[17:21] <shiftplusone_2> yeah, handy
[17:21] <gbaman> also then on the side of that, LTSP has users stored on the server
[17:21] <gbaman> meaning you can sit down at any pi and log in
[17:21] <gbaman> and you have all your files
[17:22] <gbaman> so 1 folder to backup and all the students work is backed up
[17:22] <shiftplusone_2> well anyway, I guess that explains why you don't have the bootloader package installed.
[17:22] <gbaman> well, kernel is included on the SD card
[17:22] <shiftplusone_2> The other explanation would be you used the netinstall, which does things a little differently (relying on the Raspbian kernel, rather than the foundation one).
[17:23] <gbaman> wait, they have different kernels...
[17:23] <shiftplusone_2> aye
[17:23] <gbaman> ..
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[17:24] <shiftplusone_2> If you would like to just get the latest kernel, you can download it from github (already compiled), but you should really make sure your userland matches the kernel. It's usually not a problem though.
[17:24] <apoc_r> afk.. I'll be back in ~30m
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[17:24] <gbaman> well, weirdly the one I was initially using had fuse issues
[17:24] <gbaman> meaning, seeing as LTSP uses sshfs, uses couldnt actually access their files :)
[17:25] <gbaman> *users
[17:25] <shiftplusone_2> gbaman, the foundation's kernel is whatever is in their github repo. The Raspbian kernel takes the debian kernel source package and merges in the patches from the raspberry pi github repo and builds it that way.
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[17:26] <shiftplusone_2> So you get the headers package to go along with it and Debian's patches. But it's rarely updated.
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[17:28] <halvar> ok, great, I can ssh in. So I guess that'll help me set things up for debugging the display issues :-)
[17:29] <shiftplusone_2> is it an HDMI display?
[17:29] <halvar> good question. It's an old TFT I use at home, I have an hdmi-to-DVI adapter that I use for connecting
[17:29] <halvar> so I suspect that may actually be the issue
[17:30] <shiftplusone_2> use tvservice to check if it's recognised
[17:30] <halvar> ok cool will do
[17:30] <halvar> (will first have to setup wifi, the screen is at the other end of the room ;)
[17:30] <halvar> and my ethernet cables are too short
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[17:31] <shiftplusone_2> ah
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[18:01] <apoc_r> re.. is there anything else I could do to get lightdm working with xfce?
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[18:01] <shiftplusone_2> No idea. In my case, it just worked.
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[18:03] <apoc_r> what can I do that the startx command uses xfce?
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[18:12] <pyms> Hi there, i'm struggling with a fresh install of archlinux. It seems that my raspi can't connect to the network
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[18:13] <pyms> I do a scan port each time and no results... does arch have the sshd service up out of the box ? same for the dhcpcd service ?
[18:13] <shiftplusone_2> pyms, yes and yes
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[18:14] <shiftplusone_2> Hmm... looks like time for tea.
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[18:15] <pyms> Ugh
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[18:15] <pyms> i have all the leds up shiftplusone_2
[18:15] <pyms> and my rj45 is okay
[18:17] <gbaman> shiftplusone_2: am getting there, weirdly the pi is ignoring my initrd?
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[18:18] <shiftplusone_2> gbaman, what does your config.txt look like?
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[18:19] <gbaman> I have in config.txt ramfsfile=initrd.img
[18:20] <gbaman> shiftplusone_2: and also ramfsaddr=0x00800000
[18:21] <shiftplusone_2> sec
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[18:21] <gbaman> am using kernel from raspberrypi-bootloader
[18:21] <shiftplusone_2> remove both of those
[18:22] <shiftplusone_2> (those lines)
[18:22] <gbaman> done
[18:22] <shiftplusone_2> initramfs whatever.img
[18:22] <shiftplusone_2> that works for me
[18:23] <gbaman> there we go
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[18:24] <gbaman> ...
[18:24] <gbaman> could not load aufs
[18:24] <gbaman> ..
[18:24] <gbaman> modprobe module aufs not found in modules.dep
[18:24] <gbaman> great..
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[18:25] <gbaman> sooo close..
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[18:35] <gbaman> shiftplusone_2: how do you get the Raspbian compiled kernels?
[18:35] <gbaman> not the foundation ones
[18:35] <gbaman> in my /lib/modules folder, I have 3 folders
[18:35] <gbaman> 3.10.25+ 3.10-3-rpi 3.2.0-4-rpi
[18:36] <shiftplusone_2> linux-image-rpi-rpfv
[18:36] <gbaman> I am assuming the "rpi" ones are their ones
[18:36] <gbaman> *raspbian ones
[18:36] <shiftplusone_2> I can't check right now, but maybe.
[18:37] <gbaman> info from rpfv is
[18:37] <gbaman> Description: This metapackage will pull in the raspbian kernel based on the version
[18:37] <gbaman> currently reccomended by the raspberry pi foundation (currently 3.10).
[18:38] <shiftplusone_2> what about it?
[18:38] <gbaman> hmm
[18:38] <gbaman> am just wondering, because one of the kernels from somewhere had aufs built in
[18:38] <gbaman> I cant find it in the foundation kernel
[18:39] <gbaman> so am assuming it is in raspbian kernels
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[18:39] <shiftplusone_2> Jusii might know about that, but I suspect he probably compiles his own kernels.
[18:40] <apoc_r> huh.. when I login at the console after booting, and 'sudo lightdm' it works pefectly fine
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[19:05] <FutureTense> hello. Im running the Jasper project, and am having an audio problem I hope you can help me with
[19:06] <FutureTense> When the pyton script is running and tries to play wav files the sound comes out staticy
[19:06] <FutureTense> static-y
[19:06] <FutureTense> however if I stop the python script and play the file in question, it sounds great
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[19:07] <FutureTense> I suspect this is due to the CPU being overloaded
[19:07] <FutureTense> The sounds files are being played using the aplay statement
[19:08] <FutureTense> Is there a way to call aplay so that it gets high priority?
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[19:17] <Twinsen> after a year of running, the usb stick containing the OS is giving me IO errors. Anyone know a good way to recover as many files as i can?
[19:18] <Twinsen> i tried using CP on another linux computer but it hangs at random files
[19:19] <apoc_r> id't first mount it read-only and make a dd image..
[19:19] <apoc_r> then work with the image
[19:19] <apoc_r> to recover whats possible
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[20:03] <Psil0Cybin> mad offtopic but..hey guys anyone know what the best guide is for setting up own cloud on a raspberry pi with an external hard drive? I think I made the mistake of getting NGINX instead of Apache i was up all night trying to get svgs to display properly the external hd is mounted as ext4, i have given write permissions to the folder that i mounted in /usr/share/nginx/www/cloud/data
[20:04] <Psil0Cybin> or s orry data2, and i have specified that folder during the install..
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[20:04] <oval> i like nginx
[20:04] <Psil0Cybin> does it work with owncloud from your own experience?
[20:04] <Psil0Cybin> maybe i am missing tweaks in the config
[20:05] <Psil0Cybin> i found the documentation for nginx, changed the settings but i keep getting location errors in my default config of nginx
[20:05] <Psil0Cybin> so either i was half a sleep and writting directories wrong, or i was assuming from what i read online nginx struggles with owncloud
[20:06] <oval> http://is.gd/XEAwjs
[20:09] <shiftplusone_2> prepare for the slowness
[20:10] <shiftplusone_2> nginx doesn't struggle with owncloud, owncloud just doesn't go well with the pi
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[20:24] <Jusii> gbaman: AFAIK, aufs isn't available in raspbian or foundation kernels, I've patched and compiled my own. You specifically need aufs? I'd recommend overlayfs nowdays as it's included by default on recent kernels
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[20:25] <gbaman> interestingly, i got it work Jusii
[20:25] <gbaman> not 100% sure how
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[20:26] <gbaman> am using 3.10-3-rpi
[20:26] <Jusii> so it was included?
[20:26] <gbaman> not 100% sure where it came from, it was sitting in the boot folder of my LTSP image after I ran a few commands, not sure if LTSP created it or if it came down with one of the apt packages
[20:26] <gbaman> yes..
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[20:29] <gbaman> apparently so..
[20:29] <gbaman> inside modules.dep kernel/fs/aufs/aufs.ko:
[20:29] <gbaman> still not certain where I got the kernel though :)
[20:29] <Jusii> heh
[20:29] <Jusii> is overlayfs there?
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[20:30] <Jusii> I think that's the way to go if you're doing something 'new'
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[20:30] <Jusii> it's simpler and better supported
[20:30] <gbaman> grep isnt finding it in modules.dep :(
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[20:31] <gbaman> am using LTSP, which uses aufs
[20:31] <Jusii> ok
[20:31] <gbaman> not something I can easily change
[20:31] <gbaman> the kernel is sitting up on the project github, I keep loosing track of where it comes from, is just easier to host it there https://github.com/gbaman/RaspberryPi-LTSP/tree/master/boot
[20:31] <gbaman> vmlinuz-3.10-3-rpi
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[20:52] <johnc-> why doesn't alsa see the 3.5mm jack?
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[20:56] <shiftplusone_2> it does
[20:56] <johnc-> alsamixer only sees one device and it seems to be controlling volume on the hdmi :o
[20:57] <verkgw> johnc-: try setting a different card as the defailt
[20:57] <shiftplusone_2> he says it only see one card (there's no other card to set)
[20:57] <shiftplusone_2> I have the commands to switch to analog written somewhere
[20:57] <verkgw> also in alsamixer press <F6> to choose the sound card
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[20:57] <shiftplusone_2> but I am on a different computer and can't pull them up now.
[20:58] <shiftplusone_2> this, maybe? amixer cset numid=3 1
[20:58] <johnc-> f6 shows me (default) and 0 bcm2835 ALSA
[20:58] <verkgw> ah, i remember this
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[20:59] <verkgw> it'a a setting in /boot/config.txt
[20:59] <verkgw> just having a look now
[21:01] <verkgw> i don't see it but have a reads of the wiki and i'm sure you'll work it out
[21:01] <johnc-> I'm reading it atm
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[21:02] <Jusii> was it maybe something to disable edid audio detection, so then RPi will default to analog
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[21:03] <johnc-> I guess that would mean you can't see both devices via ALSA at the same time
[21:03] <Jusii> that's true if you use that option
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[21:04] <johnc-> I've been using OpenAL to drive my audio code, which on pi will use ALSA, I guess I need to switch to omx
[21:04] <cousteau> I suddenly feel the urge to invent my own raspberry
[21:04] <cousteau> with wifi!
[21:04] <cousteau> and blackjack!
[21:05] <raalex> well, then go ahead
[21:07] <cousteau> I guess it couldn't be called "raspberry" or similar, but I suppose I could say it is "RaspberryPi™ compatible (RaspberryPi and the RaspberryPi logo are property of the RaspberryPi foundation)"
[21:08] <cousteau> (it's just a weird idea I have in mind; realistically I don't think I'll ever actually build one)
[21:08] <raalex> well, there are some legal issues with naming probably
[21:09] <raalex> but there are many rapsberry-like devices
[21:09] <cousteau> does the RPi use custom hardware (SoC) or is it something I can buy on a store?
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[21:09] <ShorTie> get the new SoC board and you can plug it into what ever motherboard you want
[21:09] <shiftplusone_2> it's not custom, but you can't just buy it
[21:10] <shiftplusone_2> You'll be able to buy it if you're going to build thousands of them.
[21:10] <cousteau> I see
[21:10] <cousteau> so you can buy thousands of them
[21:11] <shiftplusone_2> aye, broadcom only deals with big companies making big purchases. they're not set up to handle hobbyists.
[21:11] <shiftplusone_2> and with the number of raspberry pi rip-offs coming out, why bother anyway?
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[21:12] <raalex> well
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[21:12] <raalex> you can get it easily
[21:12] <raalex> just request a sample
[21:12] <raalex> when I went to engineering school, i got plenty of samples from all kinds of companies
[21:12] <IT_Sean> Broadcom isn't goin g to give you a sample
[21:12] <shiftplusone_2> I doubt you got any from broadcom
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[21:12] <shiftplusone_2> microchip is great for samples though
[21:12] <zleap> hello
[21:13] <raalex> why wouldn't they?
[21:13] <IT_Sean> because you are not a volume mfgr w/ a buisness plan and a use case.
[21:13] <shiftplusone_2> they would if you're a large company
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[21:13] <raalex> claim that you are working for a big company on a research project
[21:14] <raalex> they usually won't expect any proof for a few samples
[21:14] <shiftplusone_2> they're also not stupid
[21:14] <raalex> it's pennies to them
[21:14] <zleap> what sort of samples are they offering
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[21:14] <zleap> or can you get ?
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[21:14] <raalex> well, idk, just try
[21:14] <raalex> i remember receiving tons of shit from texas instruments
[21:15] <raalex> a few samples are really nothing to them and they don't care
[21:15] <shiftplusone_2> language aside, yes TI are very hobbyist friendly. that's the difference.
[21:15] <zleap> i think if you ask nicely companies are happy to sent stuff, i got posters from AMD a few years ago
[21:15] <raalex> oh, I didn't realize, sorry
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[21:17] <cousteau> I was thinking on a device with ethernet + wifi + processor and suddenly thought that it could be used as a wireless access point
[21:17] <raalex> that's not exactly the most creative idea tbh
[21:19] <Psil0Cybin> shiftplusone_2, why do you think it will be very very slow with the pi? i am mnot looking to host movies just documents perhaps to transfer from one computer to the next
[21:19] <Psil0Cybin> i was thinking of using btsync
[21:19] <Psil0Cybin> any thoughts when it comes to internal data transfer for the Pi? owncloud vs btsync?
[21:20] <raalex> analog devices also ships samples to everyone who asks
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[21:20] <shiftplusone_2> Psil0Cybin, just experience. It's not the data transfer speed I am talking about though, but the php request speed. If you're going to use it in the browser, you'll wait 10 seconds between clicks.
[21:20] <shiftplusone_2> *request time
[21:21] <Psil0Cybin> wow okay
[21:21] <Psil0Cybin> fine good thing you told me that right now before i struggled longer,
[21:21] <shiftplusone_2> I still recommend you try it
[21:21] <Psil0Cybin> so would you recommend like bt-sync? I just want to use an external hard drive that can be accessed over my internal network
[21:21] <shiftplusone_2> it will take you all of 5 minutes to set up
[21:21] <Psil0Cybin> but i do not like the idea of setting up an ftp server.
[21:22] <shiftplusone_2> I would just use a standard NFS share.
[21:22] <Psil0Cybin> sftp doesnt work with SSH keys
[21:22] <Psil0Cybin> on my Linux >.<
[21:22] <clever> Psil0Cybin: use scp then
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[21:22] <shiftplusone_2> sftp works fine with keys here, just set it up right.
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[21:32] <jiuweigui> -vvv is your friend when you have problems
[21:33] <jiuweigui> you get past that "doesn't work"
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> evening.
[21:33] <shiftplusone_2> hey
[21:33] <johnc-> jeez, you go away to write some omx code and the channel livens up
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[21:40] <johnc-> does anybody happen to know the API method to call to get a CRect for the screen? it seems my app isn't paying attention to the overscan settings
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[21:43] * SpeedEvil wishes the Pi did composite in too.
[21:44] <shiftplusone_2> I wish it had sata and a proper USB controller. >.>
[21:44] <johnc-> could you wire a board to feed video in the same interface the pi cam uses?
[21:46] <shiftplusone_2> And an ATX power supply.... And an x86 processor. And an ATX form factor. And PCI!
[21:46] <shiftplusone_2> johnc-, in theory, yes. In practice, nope. There's no documentation for it.
[21:47] <shiftplusone_2> and the board would cost more than makes sense.
[21:47] <johnc-> ah
[21:47] <clever> johnc-: there was a project on kickstarter doing exactly that
[21:47] <clever> HDMI input
[21:48] <johnc-> bah kickstarter
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[21:48] <clever> but it turns out that the camera pipeline is hardwired to do magic like debayer
[21:48] <shiftplusone_2> didn't that project get cancelled?
[21:48] <clever> and it ruins the image quality
[21:48] <clever> so they cancled it
[21:48] <clever> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1419380698/connect-your-hd-camcorder-to-your-raspberry-pi
[21:48] <johnc-> interesting
[21:49] <clever> schematics and info should still be on their page
[21:49] <shiftplusone_2> what do you mean hardwired though? Surely you are talking about the firmware rather than the hardware itself, right?
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[21:49] <clever> shiftplusone_2: if it was firmware, they could pay broadcom to fix it
[21:49] <Psil0Cybin> clever, never heard of scp
[21:49] <shiftplusone_2> hm
[21:49] <Psil0Cybin> shiftplusone_2, well i have been trying to access the sftp via my file manager on xubuntu
[21:49] <clever> "The integrated video processor in the BCM2835 performs video processing functions specifically for these type of sensors, so it creates a clean video. The HDMI input chip already creates a clean video. As the video processing for the camera cannot be disabled at this time, a clean video cannot be interfaced to the serial camera interface (the MIPI/CSI connector)."
[21:50] <malgar> Hi. My raspi model A is without ethernet port. How could I install new packages to raspbian?
[21:50] <clever> shiftplusone_2: this is what they posted on the kickstarter page
[21:50] <Psil0Cybin> and i can never actually login, but yea it might be a configuration issue?
[21:50] <clever> malgar: usb wifi or usb ethernet adapters
[21:51] <malgar> at the moment I haven't them. Is possible to add them to sd using another computer? and how?
[21:51] <clever> malgar: when you do apt-get, it should report an error and the URL it was trying to download
[21:51] <shiftplusone_2> malgar, you can use qemu, but it's fiddly.
[21:51] <clever> download that elsewhere, copy it to a usb stick (or the sd card), and drop it in the right location, and apt-get again
[21:52] <clever> or use dpkg to install the deb directly
[21:52] <shiftplusone_2> even fiddlier
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[21:52] <shiftplusone_2> tracking down dependencies and everything... bleh.
[21:52] <clever> qemu would just make it work, or you could use a model b for upgrades then swap back to the A
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[21:52] <clever> shiftplusone_2: let apt-get do the deps
[21:52] <Psil0Cybin> so sorry shiftplusone_2 if i cannot access slash upload using SFTP via the GUI it should be a config error? I can use SFTP using the TERMINAL but the idea is i want to transfer files from my android -> laptop and share it around
[21:52] <Psil0Cybin> with my internal networks
[21:52] <clever> it will report the url's of the deb's it failed to download
[21:52] <Psil0Cybin> to create backups of pictures etc
[21:52] <malgar> clever: tnx
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[21:52] <Psil0Cybin> do you think bt-sync might do the job? sorry
[21:53] <Psil0Cybin> i was just all over the place
[21:53] <shiftplusone_2> clever, ah, right. That's less annoying.
[21:53] <clever> shiftplusone_2: yeah, just manualy download each url it fails to fetch, and drop it in the cache dir
[21:53] <Encrypt> Psil0Cybin, What do you want to do?
[21:53] <clever> then apt-get just works
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[21:54] <shiftplusone_2> Psil0Cybin, yeah, sorry, I am not familiar with your use case. I don't tend to do these things outside of the command line, so I am useless here.
[21:57] <clever> Psil0Cybin: one of the apps ive used recently has support for key pairs
[21:58] <clever> Psil0Cybin: 'andftp'
[21:58] <clever> it lacks free scp, but sftp does use keys i believe
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> Encrypt, sorry i just want to use my Pi to host a cloud like thing but shiftplusone_2 explained that owncloud would be slow on the raspberry pi, a few clicks on the gui would take a long time so i was thinking of using bt sync
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> i just want to create a folder that camn be accessed
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> via my laptop
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> phones, iphone etc
[21:59] <Encrypt> Yes
[21:59] <clever> Psil0Cybin: samba would be the simplest way to share a folder
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> ah samba!
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> okay that is another option
[21:59] <clever> ive not checked to see how fast my pi can do that
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> would it work well with phones?
[21:59] <Encrypt> Psil0Cybin, I personally have BarracudaDrive
[21:59] <Encrypt> It works like a charm
[21:59] <clever> Psil0Cybin: i use 'es file explorer' to view samba shares from android
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> BarracudaDrive, is that open source? for a pi?
[21:59] <Encrypt> And is really, really light
[21:59] <clever> Psil0Cybin: i use it all the time to copy tv shows and music into my kindle
[22:00] <Psil0Cybin> oh man yes this stuff is all gold!
[22:00] <Encrypt> http://barracudadrive.com/
[22:00] <Psil0Cybin> thanks guys i am writting all these names down
[22:00] <Psil0Cybin> i need to do research
[22:00] <clever> Psil0Cybin: i have a samba server on my desktop, which re-shares all the NFS mounts
[22:00] <clever> Psil0Cybin: so my kindle has access to ~6tb worth of storage
[22:00] <johnc-> clever, I've been attempting to find a way to stream to my android device instead of copying entire files :/
[22:01] <clever> johnc-: i havent had much luck with streaming
[22:01] <Psil0Cybin> wow clever that would be amazing!
[22:01] <clever> johnc-: so i just copy things over, then play it locally
[22:01] <johnc-> clever, ditto, android is very flakey about live streams
[22:01] <Psil0Cybin> yea i just want to share documents who cares about movies
[22:01] <Psil0Cybin> i have a raspbnc for that
[22:01] <Psil0Cybin> or bmc*
[22:01] <Psil0Cybin> and its own xternal drive, but i just want to back up pictures i use as "proof" for work i do
[22:01] <Psil0Cybin> and i do not want it on google drive, because i want to create multiple backups..for storage/references
[22:02] <johnc-> clever, fortunately it's easy to do the other way around - stream videos you've recorded on android to a rpi :)
[22:02] <Psil0Cybin> so perhaps samba vs btsync vs barracuda drive
[22:02] <clever> Psil0Cybin: dropbox is another option
[22:02] <shiftplusone_2> Ooh. my PC has an instant-on linux thing which can run before POST. Just found a way to replace it with grub to boot anything. Wonder how well linux will work without POST. =/
[22:02] <Psil0Cybin> clever, i kinda am getting into doing it all from home or my self :)
[22:02] <Psil0Cybin> I just to manage my own data, or like the "Idea" of thinking
[22:02] <Psil0Cybin> i do
[22:02] <clever> Psil0Cybin: for example, the android dropbox client auto-uploads everything to their servers, screenshots and photos
[22:02] <Psil0Cybin> yea but who knows who else has keys
[22:02] <clever> Psil0Cybin: and the windows/linux(x86 only) downloads that automatically
[22:02] <Psil0Cybin> to my folders :) etc
[22:02] <Psil0Cybin> >.<
[22:02] <clever> giving you many backups
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> nd who knows who else backups
[22:03] <clever> yeah, your trusting dropbox to keep the data secure
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[22:04] <Psil0Cybin> i dunno
[22:04] <shiftplusone_2> I tend to keep sensitive info on dropbox in truecrypt containers. Not anything I care about too much though.
[22:04] <Psil0Cybin> yea that is another option
[22:04] <Psil0Cybin> a good other option
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[22:05] <shiftplusone_2> Doesn't work well if the volume is large, but sensitive information is rarely large anyway.
[22:06] <Psil0Cybin> well i guess i could use dropbox, no joke i just love the idea of having my own cloud at home, keep adding hard drives (etc)
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[22:06] <shiftplusone_2> I'd like that too, but couldn't find anything reliable.
[22:06] <Psil0Cybin> i just really want to understand how bt sync is secure when it transfers data slash if you can sync multiple devices, laptops
[22:06] <johnc-> whenever people mention uploading video to "the cloud" it seems silly, what if you record 80MB of video? that's a lot to upload
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[22:07] <shiftplusone_2> Everything with version control seems to just use a git repo and some broken frontend of some sort.
[22:08] <shiftplusone_2> which isn't the best for binaries.
[22:08] <Psil0Cybin> oh wow
[22:08] <Psil0Cybin> BarracudaDrive looks nice!
[22:08] <shiftplusone_2> and without version control, why not just use simple samba or NFS shares and regular differential backups. =/
[22:09] <johnc-> samba ftw
[22:09] <Psil0Cybin> yea yea im looking at samba right now
[22:09] <Psil0Cybin> what is the easiest to set up?
[22:09] <Psil0Cybin> i guess its better tehn playing around with silly web servers and SSL lol just for a few documents
[22:10] <shiftplusone_2> I am not a fan of samba. I use NFS, but don't know how well it plays with android.
[22:10] <Psil0Cybin> so samba should work better with android?
[22:10] <shiftplusone_2> no idea
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[22:10] <Psil0Cybin> meh ill play around
[22:10] <Psil0Cybin> i guess its all trial and error
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[22:10] <johnc-> samba works fine with the smb/cifs browser I have on my devices
[22:11] <Psil0Cybin> you guys are money, thanks everyone for advice.
[22:11] <Psil0Cybin> slash your two cents.
[22:11] <shiftplusone_2> you say slash a lot >_<
[22:11] <Psil0Cybin> noted ;)
[22:11] <clever> shiftplusone_2: i dont know of any android nfs clients, so i have a samba server re-sharing its own nfs mounts
[22:11] <shiftplusone_2> when you have a '/'.... that's as ridiculous as my nick >_<
[22:12] <clever> it has more of a bandwidth loss, but the wifi is still the bottleneck
[22:12] <johnc-> he really likes guns n roses
[22:12] <Psil0Cybin> wait wait sorry guys last silly question its better that my external hd is in ext4 format right :D
[22:12] <Psil0Cybin> i know that should be the better format for linux?
[22:12] <shiftplusone_2> especially if your hard drive is going to be attached to the pi, avoid ntfs.
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[22:13] <johnc-> ext3/4 is good for a linux platform
[22:13] <Psil0Cybin> yea okay thanks guys i am on the right track :D
[22:14] <Psil0Cybin> i have learned so much in the last 1 year about linux
[22:14] <Psil0Cybin> its nuts
[22:14] <Psil0Cybin> went from windows 7 -> linux a year ago and never looked back jumped in with both feet
[22:14] <Psil0Cybin> and been learning every since.
[22:15] <shiftplusone_2> I reinstalled windows a few days ago.
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[22:15] <shiftplusone_2> It's still installing updates.... argh.
[22:16] <shiftplusone_2> Most of the time, it's "preparing to install updates", which took the whole night when installing SP1. After not using windows for half a year, I am noticing how stupid it is about certain things.
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[22:25] <pala> i'm trying to build on top of hello_video example in /opt/vc/ and I would like to turn on the logging in ilclient as well as in vcos --- can anyone tell me how and where to look for the output?
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[23:03] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if i do decide to go with owncloud, is it possible with nginx? I am just confused i had issues with svg images last time
[23:03] <shiftplusone> of course
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[23:03] <Psil0Cybin> i found a guide that offers it as a script install but i hate that stuff sounds sketch
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[23:09] <clever> pala: one min
[23:09] <Encrypt> Psil0Cybin, BarracudaDrive has its own webserver \o/
[23:09] <Psil0Cybin> this is what i was reading
[23:09] <Psil0Cybin> http://blog.bittorrent.com/2013/05/23/how-i-created-my-own-personal-cloud-using-bittorrent-sync-owncloud-and-raspberry-pi/
[23:09] <Psil0Cybin> bnut i am looking into Barracuda drive as well atm
[23:09] <Psil0Cybin> i am just conflicted aha
[23:09] <pala> clever, thank you for taking the time :)
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[23:11] <clever> this might be related
[23:11] <clever> pala: https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/blob/master/interface/vcos/generic/vcos_logcat.c
[23:12] <clever> https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/blob/master/interface/vcos/generic/vcos_logcat.c#L378
[23:12] <clever> i think each module that produces logs must call vcos_log_register to allocate its category
[23:13] <clever> vcos_logging.h:# define vcos_log_info(fmt,...) _VCOS_LOG_X(VCOS_LOG_CATEGORY, VCOS_LOG_INFO, fmt, __VA_ARGS__)
[23:13] <clever> vcos_logging.h:# define _VCOS_LOG_X(cat, _level, fmt,...) do { if (vcos_is_log_enabled(cat,_level)) vcos_log_impl(cat, _level, fmt, __VA_ARGS__); } while (0)
[23:13] <clever> pala: and all logging is routes thru vcos_log_impl by these defines
[23:13] <clever> https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/blob/master/interface/vcos/generic/vcos_logcat.c#L563
[23:15] <clever> pala: by default, it appears to route everything into vcos_vlog_default_impl on https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/blob/master/interface/vcos/pthreads/vcos_pthreads.c#L294
[23:15] <clever> which writes it out log_fhandle using fprintf
[23:15] <clever> which may be stderr, or a log file under /var/log/
[23:16] <clever> https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/blob/master/interface/vcos/generic/vcos_logcat.c#L576
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[23:16] <clever> pala: but if you use vcos_set_vlog_impl, you can replace it with your own function pointer, and capture all vcos messages
[23:17] <clever> hmmm, the /var/log stuff is hard-coded at compile time, so that cant be used without a recompile
[23:17] <clever> so it appears to all go into stderr until you call vcos_set_vlog_impl
[23:18] <pala> cool, thanks clever!
[23:18] <clever> void vcos_vlog_default_impl(const VCOS_LOG_CAT_T *cat, VCOS_LOG_LEVEL_T _level, const char *fmt, va_list args)
[23:19] <clever> the function pointer you use to hook must match this argument pattern
[23:19] <clever> then your free to do anything you want with the message
[23:19] <clever> the default function should act as an example
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[23:20] <pala> thanks... i have a another question clever, maybe you already if you know about vcos/ilclient - is there any way to set how much data to buffer before decoding & playing it? (i'm specifically looking at /opt/vc/src/hello_pi/hello_video example)
[23:20] <clever> not sure
[23:21] <clever> but i think you could pause the clock module and then just feed it till it blocks
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[23:21] <clever> then unpause and keep feeding it
[23:21] <clever> but ive not done much with the clock module, its one of the first things ive torn out
[23:24] <pala> clever, i'm just having trouble understanding how that ilclient works... are these buffers that they are reading the data from the disk into ilclient code or vcos code?
[23:24] <clever> pala: first, you allocate a set of buffers, say 20
[23:24] <clever> then you fill h264 annex B data into them, and flag the start&size of the area you filled
[23:24] <clever> how you fill it doesnt matter (read a file, or network socket)
[23:25] <clever> then you call a function to pass the entire buffer to video_decode
[23:25] <clever> when the buffer is released, a callback hands it back to ilclient which will recycle it (let you fill it up again)
[23:25] <clever> internally, video_decode may pass the buffer on to video_scheduler/resize, or return the buffer asap and use its own buffers to pass frames onward
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[23:27] <pala> clever, right, so now i found that in ilclient.c:816, in portdef (nBufferSize, nBufferCountActual) contains these buffers (they are 20 each of 80k)... but if I modify these number, there's no effect on reading speed
[23:27] <pala> do you have any idea why?
[23:27] <kurukururisk> Let's say I have a rack of 7-8 Pis, what would be my best option for powering them all without having mains adaptors everywhere?
[23:27] <clever> pala: if you read too fast, then the GPU firmware will stop returning buffers to the ilclient code
[23:27] <clever> pala: and the get buffer function will just block until it gets a buffer
[23:28] <shiftplusone> kurukururisk, atx supplies, I guess.
[23:28] <Encrypt> +1
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[23:28] <clever> pala: also, you shouldnt have to modify ilclient, you can change the buffers from hello_video
[23:28] <kurukururisk> Could I power them all with a powered USB hub?
[23:29] <Encrypt> Nope
[23:29] <shiftplusone> depends on the hub and the hub's power supply.
[23:29] <Encrypt> Not at all
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[23:29] <clever> pala: i think, *digs thru source*
[23:29] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't say not at all, just very unlikely that you have such a hub
[23:29] <Encrypt> 7 RPis = 7*3.5W = 24W
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[23:30] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, Yes, right
[23:30] <Encrypt> I think there is no such power supply for a hub
[23:30] <pala> clever, thank you, i spent a lot of hours trying to find a solution to this and I fail to find it
[23:30] <shiftplusone> maybe something designed for cryptocurrenccy miners.
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[23:31] <Encrypt> Or buy something like that: https://www.adafruit.com/blog/2012/01/19/new-product-5v-10a-switching-power-supply/
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[23:31] <Encrypt> And built the appropriate adapter :)
[23:31] <clever> pala: hmm, the h264 data goes into a buffer from ilclient_get_input_buffer, and OMX_EmptyThisBuffer then dumps it to the GPU
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[23:32] <clever> pala: internally, i think OMX_EmptyThisBuffer will memcpy it to a second buffer in GPU space, but not release it until the gpu is done
[23:33] <kurukururisk> So what would be the best way of powering say, 8 Pis? Just use a normal mains adapter and deal with the cables?
[23:34] <johnc-> there was somebody who made a custom solution that had a youtube video
[23:34] <kurukururisk> Bear in mind this all has to fit neatly on a desk so I can't do much with a hacked together PSU setup or something
[23:34] <johnc-> he made a pi farm
[23:34] <kurukururisk> well, the mains strip doesn't but it can be tucked neatly away. Having a big power supply on my desk is a no-no
[23:34] <clever> pala: found it, ilclient_enable_port_buffers will ask the GPU firmware with OMX_GetParameter OMX_IndexParamPortDefinition
[23:34] <johnc-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_r3z1jYHAc
[23:34] <shiftplusone> then put it under the desk O_o
[23:34] <clever> pala: the GPU then returns how many buffers it wants and how big they should be
[23:34] <Encrypt> kurukururisk, But it's far more efficient I think
[23:34] <johnc-> he details what he did for power I think
[23:35] <shiftplusone> It will take up less volume than 8 wall warts.
[23:35] <Encrypt> kurukururisk, You could also design your own power supply
[23:35] <pala> clever, right, so how can I tell the GPU to ask for less?
[23:35] <clever> pala: in theory, you can change the fields on portdef, call OMX_SetParameter to inform the gpu, then re-call OMX_GetParameter to confirm it stuck
[23:35] <kurukururisk> Hmm, I'm not too great with electronics
[23:35] <Encrypt> That's quite simple, there is a lot of plans on the internet
[23:35] <kurukururisk> So that might not be a great idea
[23:35] <pala> clever, aaaaa, that's smart
[23:35] <clever> pala: so call GetParameter, modify the portdef it returns, then call Set and Get
[23:35] <pala> clever, i was only modifying the portdef, but not setting it back
[23:36] <pala> clever, let me try
[23:36] <clever> pala: if it stuck, the 2nd get will return what you set,
[23:36] <shiftplusone> Encrypt, what do you mean? DIY power supplies are a terrible idea. O_o
[23:36] <clever> pala: and if the gpu refused, the 2nd get will return the original values
[23:36] <clever> pala: i'm using a similar api on the output end, to get full 720p yuv420 frames out of video_decode
[23:37] <pala> clever, but if I only modify it every time (without sending it back to the gpu), shouldn't the effect be the same?
[23:37] <pala> anyway, i'm trying now
[23:38] <clever> pala: the GPU wont know about the extra buffers, and will likely either ignore them, or crash in a bad way
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[23:39] <pala> clever, but wait, i'm trying to lower the number of buffers not increase them
[23:39] <clever> ah, that will likely cause different problems
[23:39] <clever> it wont have called OMX_UseBuffer for the number that the gpu requested
[23:39] <clever> but the same get, change, set, get api should work for that direction
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[23:42] <pyms> Hi, i'm having frequent freeze (every 30 sec) on my totally new raspi... i'm afraid of hardware problem. Already heard of something like this ?
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[23:45] <SpeedEvil> What doing?
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[23:47] <pala> clever, so it doesn't in the gpu, so the gpu handles more or bigger buffers even though i didn't allocate that many
[23:47] <pala> it's like it has a mind of its own :d
[23:48] <clever> pala: can you pastebin the modified code?
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[23:49] <pala> clever, http://pastebin.com/QMDBn1NU
[23:50] <clever> pala: and what does the 2 printf's output?
[23:50] <pala> buffsize: 1024 20
[23:50] <pala> buffsize: 81920 20
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[23:51] <clever> the gpu must be refusing to allow such small buffers
[23:51] <clever> and 1kb is pretty small, it will give you pretty bad performance
[23:51] <clever> why are you trying to make it so small?
[23:53] <clever> pala: also, you dont have to fill the entire 80kb
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[23:54] <clever> pala: the data within the buffer starts at buf->pBuffer[buf->nOffset] and continues for the next buf->nFilledLen bytes
[23:54] <clever> pala: you can freely control nOffset and nFilledLen
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[23:54] <clever> as long as it stays within buf->nAllocLen
[23:54] <clever> you can easily fill the 80kb buffer with only 1024 bytes of data
[23:55] <pala> clever, but then the gpu will think it has 80 kb, right?
[23:55] <johnc-> is that a modified hello_video?
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[23:55] <clever> pala: thats what buf->nFilledLen is for
[23:55] <clever> johnc-: ilclient.c
[23:55] <clever> pala: buf->nFilledLen tells it how much of the buffer you actually filled
[23:55] <clever> johnc-: which is shared between all of the hello_pi tools
[23:55] <johnc-> ahh
[23:55] <johnc-> what are you trying to do that you want such small buffers pala?
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[23:56] <pala> johnc-, i don't want such small buffers, i was just being extreme to see if it slows down the read and/or playback, but it has no effect
[23:56] <clever> pala: if you just want to slow down the reads, then add a sleep in there
[23:56] <clever> and dont feed it as often
[23:57] <clever> and if you go too slow, it will stutter when it runs out of video data
[23:57] <pala> clever, i thought about sleeping, but it doesn't seem too smart
[23:57] <clever> if you want to actualy slow the playback, thats an option on the clock module to control play speed
[23:57] <pala> no, not the playback, the read
[23:57] <clever> you would want to measure how many bytes you feed it over time
[23:57] <clever> and calculate what the bytes/sec rate is
[23:58] <clever> then sleep if its going too fast
[23:58] <pala> let me tell you what i want to do, maybe you have an idea how to wrap it up
[23:58] <clever> dont sleep if its too slow
[23:58] <clever> adjust the sleep period dynamically
[23:59] <johnc-> well you should be feeding the gpu data as fast as it needs it, no slower no faster
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[23:59] <pala> i modified the example, to read an "infinite" stream (data from multiple files, files that are dinamically chosen based on some keyboard input) so it reads continously all the time and it always gives back whatever the gpu requests
[23:59] <johnc-> which you determine by available buffer space
[23:59] <clever> yeah
[23:59] <pala> the problem is it reads way too fast, so it buffers like 2 or 3 files ahead
[23:59] <pala> so it's not really interactive based on my input
[23:59] <clever> and if you feed the gpu too fast, ilclient_get_input_buffer blocks, and it regulates itself
[23:59] <clever> ah

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