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IRC Log for 2014-04-27

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[0:00] <clever> pala: you may want to run a flush command when you change streams
[0:00] <johnc-> if you want it to respond to user input you will need to flush your buffers
[0:00] <clever> but then there will be a pause when it re-buffers the new stream
[0:00] <johnc-> ^^
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[0:00] <clever> i saw a solution for doing it with omxplayer on github last night
[0:00] <clever> fire up 2 instances, and pause the 2nd
[0:00] <pala> clever, yeah, pausing is not good :)
[0:00] <clever> once the 1st is done playing, unpause the 2nd
[0:01] <clever> you could do similar with 2 omx pipelines
[0:01] <pala> clever, was it working with output on hdmi?
[0:01] <clever> it should work on any output that supports hw accel
[0:01] <clever> just make an entirely seperate video_decode, clock, video_scheduler, and video_renderer, with its own set of tunnels
[0:02] <clever> and somehow pause the 2nd one
[0:02] <clever> wait for it to buffer up some
[0:02] <clever> kill the 1st, unpause the 2nd
[0:02] <clever> that would give you instant switchover
[0:02] <clever> how big are the video streams?
[0:02] <pala> not big 1-5M
[0:02] <clever> at that level, i would almost say keep all the h264 data in ram
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[0:03] <clever> one min
[0:03] <clever> https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/blob/master/host_applications/linux/apps/hello_pi/libs/ilclient/ilclient.c#L828
[0:03] <clever> pala: see how it allocates each buffer in userspace, then calls UseBuffer to create a struct for it?
[0:04] <kurukururisk> Could I potentially use this to power 2 Pi's each?
[0:04] <kurukururisk> http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-2-4-Amp-Charger-Designed-Android/dp/B0073FCPSK/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1395804376&sr=1-2&keywords=usb+wall+charger
[0:04] <johnc-> clever, I buffer the data in memory and do content detection (ie. codec setup) in a 2nd omx instance but don't start playback at all until I need it, it's pretty snappy
[0:04] <pala> clever, yeah
[0:04] <clever> pala: in theory, you could replace enable_port_buffers with a customized function
[0:04] <clever> pala: one buffer, 6mb in size, pointing to a pre-read chunk of h264 data
[0:05] <clever> then swap between 2 omx pipelines, each with its own 6mb buffer containing the entire stream
[0:05] <clever> once the 2nd is primed, you can instantly switch
[0:06] <clever> though it may want atleast 2 buffers (each with one copy of the stream?)
[0:06] <clever> or you can try johnc-'s idea, do a flush when it changes streams
[0:06] <clever> and see how much it hangs up
[0:06] <johnc-> a flush would require each stream to be the same format
[0:07] <pala> johnc-, yeah, they are
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[0:07] <johnc-> and you'd need to navigate around file headers and whatnot
[0:07] <clever> hello_video doesnt support containers of any kind
[0:07] <clever> it only works on raw annex b streams
[0:08] <johnc-> ah, I work with omxplayer
[0:08] <pala> clever, but in that case, i would still need to use OMX_UseBuffer, right? which appears to totally ignore my size buffer parameter anyway
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[0:08] <clever> omxplayer is linked into ffmpeg, and has ffmpeg demux things
[0:08] <johnc-> yea, it's awesome
[0:08] <clever> pala: yeah
[0:08] <clever> pala: if you use a flush, you shouldnt have to change the buffer sizes
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[0:08] <clever> it will just dump anything it buffered up
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[0:08] <johnc-> I refactored it into a library so I can do the stream prep for playlists and stuff :)
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[0:11] <clever> pala: when using a single pipeline and flush, you should be able to use an unmodified ilclient
[0:11] <pala> clever, i can't really flush because i can't interrupt playing the current file..
[0:11] <pala> or else it will jump, it won't appear continously
[0:11] <clever> try it out first and see how much the gap is
[0:11] <pala> i'm not talking about buffering again
[0:11] <pala> but the point where the playing finishes
[0:12] <clever> looping?
[0:12] <pala> yeah, it needs to do that
[0:12] <clever> so it forever reads the same file over and over
[0:12] <clever> just reset your read loop to the start of the file every time it hits the end
[0:12] <clever> shouldnt be any issue if you concat the same annex b stream against itself
[0:12] <pala> no, it's not the same file, it's based on input
[0:12] <clever> when you change input, send a flush command, then switch to the start of the next time
[0:13] <clever> and measure how big of a pause it causes
[0:13] <clever> then decide if its too much or not
[0:13] <clever> next file*
[0:13] <johnc-> so, you need a user to hit a button and the video being played changes?
[0:13] <clever> sounds like its sort of like a 5 channel tv, with 5 buttons to jump to a channel
[0:14] <clever> and each 'channel' is a 30 second loop?
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[0:14] <pala> johnc-, yes, but all the videos should be linkable together, no matter when/how you press
[0:14] <johnc-> that's kinda what I was thinking yeah, which would involve pausing playback, flushing the buffer, playing new file
[0:14] <pala> so i'm not sure how that flushing would work
[0:15] <johnc-> when you switch streams you flush your existing buffer and read data from the new stream the same way as ever
[0:15] <clever> just try it out and see how much it pauses first
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[0:16] <pala> i can only tell when i switch streams at reading time, not at playing time... is there a way to tell when the current file (i.e. number of bytes) have been played?
[0:16] <johnc-> clever, now I'm curious if 2 omx pipelines could do some magical pip :)
[0:17] <clever> pala: your in control of the code that reads the file
[0:17] <clever> johnc-: i dont see why not
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[0:17] <johnc-> clever, I wonder if the gpu can support it, in omx it's as easy as setting the layer
[0:18] <clever> johnc-: depends on the total bitrate i think
[0:19] <johnc-> clever, and if the hw decoder can keep up with both streams
[0:19] <clever> i think thats mainly the memory bandwidth of the output frames and the bitrate consumed in the hw decoder
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[0:21] <johnc-> I guess I'll find out when I get time to tinker later :)
[0:21] <pala> clever, maybe we are not on the same page on what i was trying to achieve: i have 4 files A1, A2, A3, A4, B1, B2, B3, B4.... now, i play A1, A2, A3, A4 in a loop, until i press 'B', then B1 or B2 or B3 or B4 is going to be played depending on which of As was being played last. But the B1 and A1 are connected, so i can't stop (flush) in the middle of playing A1, i have to finish playing it
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[0:22] <Duxducis> I installed OpenCV with a package manager to avoid the 10 hour compilation time, so now my libs are installed in /usr/lib and includes in /usr/include, theres no folder in /usr/share/ where I can find the OpenCVConfig.cmake and I can’t compile some opencv code I have with cmake because cmake says it cant find it, any ideas of what I have to do?
[0:22] <clever> pala: ah, so you would keep track of which file your on in the read loop
[0:22] <clever> pala: int chunk = 1; char file = 'A';
[0:23] <clever> snprintf(...,"%c%d.h264",chunk,file);
[0:23] <clever> open that file
[0:23] <clever> when its done, close, increment chunk
[0:23] <clever> if chunk == 5, increment file, reset chunk to 1
[0:23] <clever> snprintf, re-open
[0:23] <clever> and if you change files, just file = 'B'
[0:23] <clever> and when it increments it goes from A1 to B2, that right?
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[0:25] <johnc-> I'm very confused where the problem is
[0:26] <Duxducis> anyone has any idea on the cmake problem?
[0:27] <clever> dont have to compile it
[0:27] <clever> Duxducis: did you try downloading the opencv source and searching it for that file?
[0:28] <clever> Duxducis: or looking for an opencv-dev package?
[0:28] <Duxducis> clever, doesnt installing from apt-get compile it?
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[0:29] <Duxducis> or do you download the already compiled packages?
[0:29] <clever> apt-get gives you a pre-compiled binary
[0:29] <clever> but as you said, its missing the OpenCVConfig.cmake file you need
[0:29] <clever> OpenCVConfig.cmake is likely in the source
[0:29] <clever> so, download the source and copy it, skip the compile step
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[0:30] <Duxducis> it is, its just pointing to a different locations than my package manager
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[0:30] <Duxducis> apt-get not being the one I used
[0:30] <Duxducis> ill try getting it from apt-get
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[0:36] <Duxducis> ok that didnt work either
[0:36] <Duxducis> I got the config file from the source and downloaded from apt-get
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[0:37] <Duxducis> it still says it can find some libs or includes
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[0:41] <Duxducis> any ideas
[0:41] <Duxducis> ?
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[1:28] <Duxducis> anyone here using the rtk motor controller?
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[5:25] <rikkib> OK my wireless wind vane maxes out at 4 readins per second with ~109mS round trip time.
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[6:49] <Duxducis> can I setup my Pi’s wifi connection over SSH via Ethernet?
[6:49] <Duxducis> or VNC via ethernet...
[6:49] <AlecksG> Duxducis, of course
[6:50] <Duxducis> So it’ll have 2 IPs at once?
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[6:50] <Duxducis> AlecksG, I ask because Ive tried with the GUI Raspbian has for WiFi and I get connected to my wifi, but I get no IP
[6:51] <Duxducis> and I know its not a power issue because I actually tried connecting the dongle to a powered hub
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[6:54] <Duxducis> any ideas?
[6:55] <AlecksG> Duxducis, what utility are you using to configure it?
[6:56] <Duxducis> The WiFi Config in Raspbian’s Desktop
[6:56] <Duxducis> it’s a gui utility
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[6:58] <rikkib> You may need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and ensure the wifi interface is set to get dhcp automatically
[6:58] * rikkib is no expert
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[6:59] <Duxducis> Well im less of an expert so ill follow your advice
[6:59] <AlecksG> That's probably the route to go
[6:59] <Duxducis> Now how should that file look, what should I change?
[6:59] <rikkib> Also there has to be a change of default rioute
[6:59] <AlecksG> I don't use raspbian, so I can't comment on that. Personally, I use wpa_supplicant directly with gentoo's network config
[6:59] <rikkib> route
[7:00] <rikkib> I have no wifi here but know the general idea from doing it when needed for others on Debian
[7:01] <rikkib> Anyway it is more knowing whats what like tcpdump is your friend
[7:03] <Duxducis> well
[7:03] <Duxducis> nevermind
[7:03] <Duxducis> I actually tried the utility again
[7:03] <AlecksG> Duxducis, open /etc/network/interfaces as root and add this: http://bpaste.net/show/Drus3tX9PRuhokbnL5vh/
[7:03] <AlecksG> oh
[7:03] <AlecksG> heh
[7:03] <Duxducis> and it just gave me an IP… just like that
[7:03] <Duxducis> it disconnects every 10 secs and reconnects
[7:04] <Duxducis> its stable now but it did it about 2 times
[7:04] <AlecksG> it might be fighting over the default networking route...
[7:04] <Duxducis> So it should stop once I plug out ethernet
[7:04] <Duxducis> ?
[7:04] <Duxducis> it stopped anyway
[7:05] <AlecksG> If I were you, I'd leave the ethernet unplugged anyway. The ethernet and usb are on the same bus, so using them both will slow them
[7:05] <Duxducis> this is so exciting :)
[7:05] <rikkib> I am thinking that tcp/ip handles best route automatioically
[7:06] <Duxducis> AlecksG, im just using ethernet for initial setup
[7:06] <AlecksG> rikkib, probably
[7:06] <Duxducis> so when I reboot it should autoconnect to the same network, right?
[7:07] <Duxducis> it did… cool stuff
[7:07] <rikkib> install ipmasq package and you have your own ip masq gateway/firewall
[7:08] <Duxducis> Now next step, is there a way to make my own wifi signal?
[7:08] <rikkib> nRF24
[7:08] <Duxducis> if say I wanted to control the pi outside, I would want to make a signal I can connect to with my computer, ideally my computer would be assigned an IP and I could use sockets to control it
[7:08] <AlecksG> Duxducis, ad-hoc setup
[7:08] <Duxducis> AlecksG how can I set that up?
[7:09] <rikkib> I am doing that right now
[7:09] <rikkib> working on a wireless wind vane
[7:09] <AlecksG> The other option would be building a server to listen on the wifi IP
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[7:13] <rikkib> Duxducis, netcat
[7:13] <rikkib> or ncat
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[7:14] <Duxducis> rikkib, will netcat allow me to create an adhoc without needing to edit the system files?
[7:14] <rikkib> Sorry I am not sure what adhock means
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[7:22] <Duxducis> ok now I cant access the internet (havent setup adhoc yet, still on my wifi)
[7:23] <Duxducis> im guessing its a dns error because it says “Cannot resolve hostname”, any ideas on a fix?
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[7:32] <rikkib> hmmm think rpi still use google dns /etc/resolv.conf
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[7:33] <Duxducis> nope, just changed it to use those though
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[7:33] <rikkib> or if trying to resolve locally /etc/hosts
[7:34] <rikkib> use dns proxy in router
[7:35] <rikkib> ntp no go if no resolv
[7:36] <Duxducis> changed the dns ip in the resolv.conf, still says cant resolve
[7:37] <rikkib> hmmm
[7:37] <Duxducis> but I doubt its dns problems
[7:37] <Duxducis> because it works fine on ethernet
[7:38] <rikkib> dns is usually assigned by dhcp
[7:38] <rikkib> unless fixed
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[7:39] <rikkib> wireless firewall
[7:39] <Duxducis> anyway, Im quite sure its not a dns problem even though it says cant resolve
[7:39] <Duxducis> ethernet is fine
[7:39] <Duxducis> and I cant even ping google’s ip
[7:39] <Duxducis> says Network is unreachable
[7:40] <Duxducis> yet im controlling my pi without ethernet plugged, through wifi lan
[7:40] <rikkib> type route
[7:41] <rikkib> see what route are there
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[7:43] <rikkib> You have your eth and wifi on diferent network ip's?
[7:43] <rikkib> networks
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[7:43] <rikkib> like one on 192.168.44.0 and one on 192.168.24.0
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[7:45] <Duxducis> yea
[7:46] <Duxducis> ethernet ends in .15
[7:46] <Duxducis> wifi ends in .10
[7:46] <Duxducis> currently ethernet unplugged, typed route
[7:46] <Duxducis> got this
[7:46] <Duxducis> Kernel IP routing table
[7:46] <Duxducis> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
[7:46] <Duxducis> 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0
[7:46] <rikkib> Not sure but I think that may not be a good idea
[7:47] <rikkib> When I run two interfaces on a linux box I use difgferent sub nets
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[7:48] <rikkib> Anyway you are missing a default gateway
[7:49] <rikkib> if that is all route spits out
[7:49] <rikkib> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
[7:49] <rikkib> default 192.168.44.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
[7:49] <rikkib> 192.168.44.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
[7:50] <rikkib> Do you need help with the command to make the default route
[7:50] <rikkib> I can find it in my resources
[7:50] <RickyB98`> Hello :) i would like to buy this raspberry pi from amazon: http://www.amazon.it/Raspberry-Pi-RBCA000-Model-512Mb/dp/B008PT4GGC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398577757&sr=8-1&keywords=Raspberry+pi Problem is that it's from UK and since I'm in Italy, I don't know if I will get into compatibility troubles. Can anyone help?
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[7:51] <rikkib> route add default gateway 192.168.44.1
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[7:51] <rikkib> route add default gateway 192.168.0.0 in your case
[7:54] <rikkib> What do you mean by compatibility troubles?
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[7:55] <RickyB98`> Sometimes it happens that imported products don't work in the final country (Italy in my case) or at least don't work as fine as they would in their first country (UK)
[7:55] <RickyB98`> That's the case of the iPhones... Was wondering if it was the same for the rip
[7:55] <RickyB98`> Opus
[7:56] <RickyB98`> RPI
[7:56] <RickyB98`> He'll
[7:56] <RickyB98`> Ok I'll stop... Auto correction sucks
[7:57] <rikkib> I live in New Zealand... I have several rpi. All work fine
[7:57] <Duxducis> RickyB98, the raspi is low level enough to not be affected by your region
[7:57] <RickyB98`> Okay, thanks a lot :)
[7:57] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-sys1.jpg
[7:57] <Duxducis> rikkib, will setting a default gateway help my cant resolve problems
[7:57] <Duxducis> ?
[7:58] <RickyB98`> Also, is it powered by USB?
[7:58] <rikkib> yep sure will
[7:58] <Duxducis> RickyB98, no its not powered by USB, you can get a beaglebone if you need to power by usb
[7:58] <RickyB98`> Nono, I didn't want it to be powered by USB xD
[7:59] <RickyB98`> One last things.. How do I understand what resistor I should use when using the GPIO?
[7:59] <Duxducis> What I did personally is I got a 5v wall plug, cut the dc jack out, cut the cables, and tied some jumpers to it which I plug into my 5v and GND in the rpi
[8:00] <rikkib> http://elinux.org/RPi_Hub
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[8:00] <RickyB98`> Rikkib was that for me?
[8:00] <Duxducis> RickyB98 depends on what you want to connect to the gpio
[8:00] <rikkib> RickyB98`, All the info you need
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[8:00] <rikkib> elinux
[8:00] <Duxducis> I dont use resistors for most stuff, I just know you need them for leds
[8:01] <RickyB98`> Duxducis how do I calculate it?
[8:01] <rikkib> ohms law
[8:01] <RickyB98`> Rikkib, which is?
[8:01] <RickyB98`> I studied this like years and years ago xD
[8:02] <rikkib> 6mA max per pin 8 pins 36mA total current allowed on 3.3v gpio pins
[8:02] <rikkib> google is your friend
[8:02] <Duxducis> RickyB98, you dont need to calculate anything, 99% of peripherals you might use with gpio dont require a resistor
[8:02] <Duxducis> rikkib, seriously, 6mA?
[8:02] <RickyB98`> So 16mA max?
[8:02] <Duxducis> a LED uses 20mA, how can a pin be 6mA
[8:03] <Xark> Wow, I didn't realize it is that low mA. That is not even an LED...
[8:03] <rikkib> thats max drive current per pin
[8:03] <Duxducis> quite interesting piece of knowledge you got there
[8:03] <RickyB98`> Rikkib I thought it was 16mA or sty
[8:03] <rikkib> but you can not go over the 36mA max all pins
[8:03] <RickyB98`> Sth
[8:03] <rikkib> limit is the 3.3v regulator used
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[8:04] <RickyB98`> Ah one last last thing: which cables should I use with the GPIO?
[8:04] <rikkib> to pins driving at 16mA comes close to max
[8:04] <rikkib> 3 and you are over and the smoke may come out
[8:04] <Duxducis> RickyB98, GPIOs are male, I use female to male jumper cables to plug into a breadboard
[8:05] <rikkib> two pins sorry
[8:05] <RickyB98`> Jumper cables?
[8:05] * RickyB98` googles
[8:05] <Duxducis> dont google that
[8:06] <Duxducis> wont get you what you need
[8:06] <rikkib> I use jumpers from pc front panels etc as per the pic
[8:06] <Duxducis> here http://www.amazon.com/Phantom-YoYo-dupont-cable-female/dp/B00A6SOGC4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398578775&sr=8-1&keywords=female+to+male+jumper+cables+arduino
[8:06] <Duxducis> those are the ones I mean you should get
[8:06] <RickyB98`> Thx :)
[8:06] <Duxducis> those and a breadboard
[8:06] <rikkib> or vero board
[8:07] <RickyB98`> Breadboard..
[8:07] * RickyB98` googles for that
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[8:07] <RickyB98`> Ouuuuh that thingy... Why should i use at
[8:07] <RickyB98`> That*
[8:07] <Duxducis> also get a good amount of male to male jumper cables, youll need those to make your connections in the breadboard
[8:07] <Duxducis> http://www.amazon.com/Solderless-Flexible-Breadboard-Jumper-Arduino/dp/B00ARTWJ44/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398578860&sr=8-1&keywords=male+to+male+jumper+cables
[8:08] <Duxducis> RickyB98, I use it to develop my electric part of the robot
[8:08] <Duxducis> My HBridges to drive motors are set up there
[8:08] <RickyB98`> What for input pins? Max mA allowed?
[8:09] <Duxducis> Dont even think to push with that
[8:09] <Duxducis> If you got something that should go on input, you shouldnt worry
[8:09] <RickyB98`> It shouldn't fry everything? XD
[8:10] <Duxducis> I remember how much stuff I friend before becoming sort of literate in electronics...
[8:10] <rikkib> Think the sink and source current of the gates are close to same same
[8:11] <Duxducis> rikkib, THAT SOLVED IT
[8:11] <Duxducis> I LOVE YOU
[8:11] <RickyB98`> I'll be back in some minutes (maybe I quit.. Let's see what my iPad is gonna do) :)
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[8:11] <rikkib> But I would not use 16mA when calculating a resistor.... I use 6mA
[8:12] <Duxducis> I can access the interwebz with wifi :)
[8:13] <rikkib> you can add that command to /etc/rc.local
[8:13] <rikkib> and write scripts to change route from wifi to eth
[8:14] <rikkib> route del default gateway 192.168.0.0
[8:14] <rikkib> I think will work
[8:17] <rikkib> I looked up adhoc...
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[8:18] <rikkib> I am a Ham... Packet radio was the original adhoc network
[8:19] <rikkib> Dinner time in NZ...
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[12:02] <Bhaal> Ohhhhh the Compute Module and IO Board will take 2 cameras! I AM EXCITED!
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[12:49] <psyko666> hello anyone tried using opencv on rpi for their rpi camera?
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[13:05] <psyko666> hello anyone tried using opencv on rpi for their rpi camera?
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[14:57] <mattinahat> I'm trying to start up feh over ssh, but i keep getting the error "Can't open X display". I want feh to open on the screen the raspberry pi is hooked up to, not the remote session i have started. does anyone have any resources on how to accomplish this?
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[14:57] <mattinahat> also, i can successfully run feh with a keyboard connected to the pi, but i was hoping i could do it all over ssh.
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[15:00] <mattinahat> i've also tried running other programs. i tried "midori &" but nothing shows up on the Rpi screen.
[15:01] <mattinahat> and once i get a pid back, then the pi says "Midori - cannot open display:"
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[15:06] <mattinahat> and i ssh'd using ssh -X pi@server
[15:06] <linuxstb> What does the DISPLAY variable contain when you ssh to the Pi? (i.e. type: echo $DISPLAY)
[15:06] <mattinahat> when i start a new ssh its blank
[15:06] <linuxstb> Using -X should forward the X connection over ssh so your local display is used (assuming you're ssh'ing from within an X session)
[15:07] <mattinahat> my local machine is running osx
[15:08] <mattinahat> should i not be using -X?
[15:08] <linuxstb> If you want the Pi's local display to be used, then no.
[15:08] <mattinahat> ok, i'll give it a go without that
[15:08] <mattinahat> echo $DISPLAY is still blank
[15:09] <mattinahat> and both feh and midori say they can't open the display
[15:09] <linuxstb> Try "export DISPLAY=:0.0" but I'm not sure if that will work.
[15:10] <linuxstb> If you want to get the display on your OS X machine, you can start X11 from within OSX, then start an xterm from in X11, then ssh -X to your Pi.
[15:10] <linuxstb> X11 is in Applications -> Utilities
[15:10] <mattinahat> ah, i was misinterpreting what the x forwarding did
[15:10] <mattinahat> the export did the trick
[15:11] <mattinahat> so DISPLAY just isnt' set b/c i'm sshing?
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[15:12] <mattinahat> i'm gonna add that to etc/environment then
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[15:14] <mattinahat> great. thanks for your help, linuxstb
[15:14] <mattinahat> i just had a few concepts mixed up.
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[16:39] <bruxC> Quick question about raspberry pi and XBMC. I see i have some options and I'm very well new to this. Does anyone have recommendations on which one is best for video performance? Raspbmc, OpenELEC, XBian, a better one?
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[16:59] <Twinsen> i started doing a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and the raspberry is trying for about 5 hours to download "82% [679 wolfram-engine 178 MB/219 MB 81%]". Checking top, the "http" process is eating 98% "user" cpu
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[17:00] <Twinsen> is it ok to stop the download and try again?
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[17:01] <linuxstb> Yes, apt will recover fine from interrupted downloads.
[17:02] <Twinsen> thx
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[17:44] <cousteau> I just had an idea
[17:44] <cousteau> the paperboard box in which the Raspberry Pi comes should be pre-cut so that you could easily remove parts of it
[17:45] <cousteau> in a way that the box works as a cheap protection box for the RPi, with you only needing to make holes for the peripherals (USB, Ethernet...)
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[17:45] <cousteau> (the box should be a bit smaller so that the RPi fits perfectly)
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[17:47] <Encrypt> cousteau, Submit this idea to RS & Farnell ;)
[17:47] <cousteau> oh, raspberry pi foundation is not responsible of the boxes?
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[17:48] <bruxc> Can a Raspberry Pi do its initial installation through ICS via LAN on a wlan laptop?
[17:48] <cousteau> meh, I don't think those guys will be interested in the idea; it was something more on the lines of what RPi would have wanted, but the distributors probably don't give a damn
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[17:53] <bruxc> cousteau: Was that statement directed towards me?
[17:53] <cousteau> nope
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[17:54] <cousteau> I should have mentioned it; it looked confusing
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[17:54] <bruxc> No worries. You wouldn't happen to know the answer to my question, would you?
[17:54] <linuxstb> bruxc: What do you want to install? Raspbian for example doesn't need any internet connection at all (or a monitor/keyboard for that matter).
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[17:57] <bruxc> linuxstb: I'm currently doing Raspbmc
[17:57] <bruxc> Id like the concept of using LAN to wlan laptop if its a possibility. My current setup here would ask me to stretch my router across the living room, I can do it. Its possible, don't want to if I don't have to.
[17:58] <bruxc> On an unrelated note: I'm definitely using a close pin to help secure my SDHC card. So trash.
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[18:00] <cousteau> bruxc, I installed raspbmc with nothing but a monitor and ethernet plugged to the raspberry
[18:00] <ppq> sure, you can use ICS (via network-manager on linux or even via windows) to get internet access
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[18:01] <ppq> the pi doesn't care if the connected laptop uses lan or wifi
[18:02] <bruxc> ppq: It was hanging until I took it away from the laptop and put it in the router.
[18:02] <bruxc> It knew that I was sharing via laptop and didn't like it. So I was wondering if it was possible.
[18:02] <cousteau> I used my laptop (because my desktop pc doesn't have SD card reader) to install raspbmc to the card, and also configure the wifi. Then I put the card on the RPi and let it install (using ethernet, but I think wifi would have worked just as well)
[18:02] <cousteau> well, wifi may have been slower
[18:03] <ppq> bruxc, sounds like the the wifi connection broke down at some point
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[18:03] <ppq> just try again, without using the microwave ;)
[18:03] <bruxc> ppq: I had a feeling the wifi connection never started.
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[18:03] <bruxc> haha. All right. I'll try it again so I can get the message. I think it may shed some light on the issue.
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[18:04] <cousteau> hm, how can I test my wifi speed?
[18:05] <cousteau> I know, I'll create a server on my pc and try to wget something on my rpi
[18:05] <cousteau> and then pipe it to cksum or something, rather than saving it to the card (slow)
[18:07] <bruxc> What do you guys use for SD adapters?
[18:07] <bruxc> This Sandisk adapter ssssssucks.
[18:08] <bruxc> Error message is:
[18:08] <bruxc> eth0: hardware isn't capable of remote wakeup
[18:08] <bruxc> eth0: link up, 100mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xDDE1
[18:08] <bruxc> Wait 8 seconds for Network Interface to come up (continuous message)
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[18:09] <bruxc> oh, before the first error it says:
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[18:09] <bruxc> eth0: register 'smsc95xx' at usb-bcm2708_usb-1.1, smsc95xx USB 2.0 ethernet, **(my mac address goes here)**
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[18:12] <bruxc> coustea: ppq:
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[18:21] <cousteau> I lost the RPi... I mean, I know where it is, but the wifi seems not to work anymore
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[18:23] <cousteau> oooh, so the problem was wifi reception all the time
[18:24] <cousteau> yeah, much better now
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[18:35] <bruxc> How's everyone doing?
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[18:44] <WeeJeWel> Hey guys, is there a good way to communicate to an arduino on 433MHz using cheap transmitters+receivers?
[18:44] <WeeJeWel> Like VirtualWire for the Pi
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[19:22] <Spideru> Hi. I would to use hardware PWM on my raspberry. zgrep -a PWM /proc/config.gz return # CONFIG_PWM is not set, so the kernel is not compiled with PWM support. What driver must be compiled and added as module to get PWM working? Thank you
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[20:02] <MrVoltz> Hi
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[20:04] <mgottschlag> hah, I finally got this headphone amp chip to respond to my commands
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[20:05] <mgottschlag> now comes the fun part: soldering wires directly to this rev1 pi's i2s :)
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[20:10] <davor> is there a tool with which I can press buttons on an IR remote, record them and then reproduce them with an IR LED?
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[20:10] <davor> that automates this process, that is
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[20:52] <demlak> hmm.. i got an error, when i want to shorten a script by setting two lines into a variable.. but i got an error.. don�t know why.. http://pastebin.com/fxQXcFna
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[20:55] <chunkyhead> systemctl enable httpd && systemctl start httpd tells me httpd.service failed. see journalctl and systemctl status, this is my log: https://db.tt/nW8r65OG
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[21:01] <RickyB98> i actually said i would have been back after a while this morning...
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[21:02] <RickyB98> lol now i come back :-)
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[21:02] <RickyB98> good evening people :-)
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[21:03] <AlecksG> RickyB98, eevening
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[21:05] <AlecksG> chunkyhead, check the apache logs. Mine are in /var/log/apache2
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[21:09] <jmzc> hello
[21:10] <jmzc> if I do a fdisk -l in my Raspbian , it shows
[21:10] <jmzc> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
[21:10] <jmzc> /dev/mmcblk0p1 8192 122879 57344 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[21:10] <jmzc> /dev/mmcblk0p2 122880 15278079 7577600 83 Linux
[21:10] <jmzc> what is that ? 2 partitions ? one of them is W95 FAT32 (LBA) ?
[21:11] <AlecksG> jmzc, yes, that's what the rpi uses as its boot partition
[21:12] <jmzc> ok
[21:12] <jmzc> thanks
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[21:14] <AlecksG> jmzc, if you're thinking about modifying it or rolling your own, know that it's not as simple as making a fat32 partition. You have to do it a certain way
[21:14] <jmzc> i wondered why is a fat partition
[21:15] <jmzc> but my idea is booting from an external disk ...
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[21:15] <AlecksG> Most likely because its implementation is simple and still works with Windows
[21:16] <AlecksG> jmzc, the firmware info is hardcoded to use that boot partition
[21:16] <jmzc> oh
[21:16] <AlecksG> but you could put / on an external drive, I imagine
[21:17] <jmzc> yes, it's an option
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[21:17] <jmzc> thanks !
[21:17] <AlecksG> no problem
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[21:23] <slymatt> hey guys has anyone used a mq135 co2 detector before?
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[21:24] <slymatt> I'm really struggling to get a reading from it =S
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[21:31] <slymatt> anyone?
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[21:33] <slymatt> I'm getting a 0ppm reading i don't understand why =S
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[21:35] <ShorTie> i got a mq137 .. :/~
[21:36] <slymatt> would they not be similar in ways?
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[21:38] <ShorTie> might be, i'd have to look it up, don't know right off hand
[21:38] <slymatt> ShorTie: do you need to calibrate them?
[21:38] <slymatt> or should they work off the bat?
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[21:39] <ShorTie> ya, need to calibrate it
[21:40] <ShorTie> or i do, all i have is a adc value for 0ppm
[21:40] <ShorTie> that is after the warmup time too...
[21:41] <slymatt> so I've never used a co2 reader before what do i ned to do to it lol
[21:41] <slymatt> need*
[21:41] <_ynk> hello, I've been experiencing lots of trouble with my raspberry pi. I am using it simply as a web server. it runs OK for a while, could be a day or a day and few hours, then it freezes. I have no monitor connected to it. all ssh connections attempt hang - they don't fail, simply don't get a response. so does other (http) requests - hang. all LED's are turned on.
[21:42] <_ynk> I tried different approaches to solve this issue which none succeed. is anyone able to help me out? this is becoming a huge headache.
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[21:42] <ShorTie> to calibrate it you need to have a known ppm
[21:42] <slymatt> _ynk: never had that issue
[21:43] <AlecksG> _ynk, sounds like it might be a power problem. Can you connect to it locally and wait for the problem to occur? then You could verify what's wrong
[21:43] <_ynk> AlecksG: but it happens only after the pi runs for a long time. something around 20 hours from what I've noticed so far (this last week)
[21:43] <_ynk> also what do you mean connect to it locally?
[21:44] <AlecksG> _ynk, connect a monitor and keyboard so you can check out the problem after it happens
[21:44] <_ynk> I am connecting via LAN, if that's the question :-/
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[21:44] <slymatt> ShorTie: this is the data sheet but i haven't got a clue what its about haha https://www.futurlec.com/Datasheet/Sensor/MQ-135.pdf
[21:45] <_ynk> AlecksG: unfortunately I can't arrange that setup now. it would require getting a monitor or some proper cables to use with a non-hdmi screen... in other words, trouble.
[21:45] <AlecksG> _ynk, Perhaps it's simply losing an ip address. Do you have a dhcp daemon running?
[21:46] <_ynk> I have a static IP, and I doubt that's the issue since I did some tests with my router. disconnected it via the router while it was conencted and it conencted back, restarted router and it came back, unplugged and plugged back and it got back.
[21:46] <slymatt> i bought it on a breakout bored, there are 4 pins ground voc and dout and aout i have 5v to voc, ground to ground with 10k resistor between, aout to pin 1 analog on arduino breakout and the digital pin goes nowhere
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[21:46] <_ynk> I even changed twice my different network management software since I was almost certain this was the issue, but now I doubt it
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[21:48] <slymatt> ShorTie: does that sound about right?
[21:48] <AlecksG> _ynk, every issue I've had like this always involved power. Generally not right away, would fail randomly after so much time
[21:48] <_ynk> is it possible that the pi would consume more than 1mA? because my power supply is only up to 1mA. although I have nothing connected to it (i mean in usb)
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[21:48] <AlecksG> _ynk, yes very possible. Those cheap 1mA adapters are generally not enough
[21:49] <ShorTie> looks about the same thing, but i have mine hooked upthru a adc, not a arduino
[21:49] <AlecksG> _ynk, It's more about the power source than how much it's consuming
[21:49] <_ynk> sorry, not mA of course, A is the proper unit, haha.
[21:49] <slymatt> ShorTie: whats add?
[21:49] <slymatt> adc*
[21:49] <_ynk> mm AlecksG so you say this could be it?
[21:49] <AlecksG> _ynk, well, without any other way to verify, that would be my guess
[21:50] <AlecksG> Since you already checked the network configurations
[21:50] <AlecksG> We had to switch a bunch of ours to 1.5A adapters do to unreliable power
[21:50] <AlecksG> due*
[21:51] <ShorTie> analog to digital converter
[21:51] <_ynk> AlecksG: woha, that kinda gives me hope I'll be able to solve this issue. so I'll be getting a power supply, do you have any reccomendation of what to avoid?
[21:52] <slymatt> ShorTie: well the breakout does tha analog to digital so that shouldn't be the problem
[21:52] <slymatt> could i see your code?
[21:52] <AlecksG> _ynk, you get what you pay for, that's about all I can say. There are some really cheap ones advertised exactly the the rPi, but they are underpowered
[21:52] <AlecksG> for the*
[21:53] * AlecksG needs more coffee
[21:53] <AlecksG> _ynk, you could also try powering it through a powered usb hub, if the power source itself is an issue
[21:53] <ShorTie> adcValue = ((spiData [1] << 8) | spiData [2]) & 0x3FF; is about it
[21:54] <slymatt> ShorTie: this is myn ;S http://pastebin.com/TgzhkpnU
[21:54] <slymatt> because i have to convert to ppm, does that look right?
[21:55] <ShorTie> _ynk, your micro usb power cable isn't real thin is it ??
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[21:56] <_ynk> ShorTie: uhh define real thin?
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[21:57] <AlecksG> _ynk, more plastic than copper ;)
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[21:58] <ShorTie> like less then 1/8" maybe
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[21:58] <_ynk> Not sure what that means, but it was previously a smartphone charger.
[21:58] <ShorTie> look on the cable for the wire size
[21:58] <_ynk> and I need that in metric, haha. hold on
[21:59] <slymatt> 3.175 mm
[21:59] <ShorTie> 28ga is good, much smaller you can get to much of a voltage drop across it
[22:00] <slymatt> ShorTie: what do you think about the code?
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[22:00] <ShorTie> causing brownouts at times
[22:00] <_ynk> nope, it seems like 5mm
[22:00] <ShorTie> sss slymatt, it doesn't make much sense to me
[22:01] <AlecksG> _ynk, are you overclocking at all?
[22:01] <_ynk> AlecksG: absolutely not, in fact I stayed away from overclocking since this issue appeared.
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[22:02] <AlecksG> _ynk, well that's still my only real guess here, since you can't log into it after it happens right now
[22:02] <ShorTie> alot of the phone charging cables, the wires are to thin for reliable performance
[22:03] <slymatt> ShorTie: i take it 0x3FF is your analog pin
[22:03] <ShorTie> they don't need to carry 700ma-1amp, so they use smaller wire
[22:03] <_ynk> AlecksG: alright thanks. let's hope a new power supply will solve this.
[22:03] <AlecksG> _ynk, me too
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[22:04] <ShorTie> No slymatt
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[22:05] <slymatt> ShorTie: i dont understand your code =P
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[22:06] <luckyruby> Hi
[22:06] <ShorTie> it just returns a value from the mcp3008 adc
[22:06] <AlecksG> luckyruby, hi
[22:07] <luckyruby> What's a good sensor for the pi for detecting when a vehicle is in motion while sitting in the vehicle?
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[22:08] <luckyruby> My first thought was an accelerometer but would that be effective when the car is traveling at constant velocity?
[22:08] <slymatt> ShorTie: is the co2 reader digital input?
[22:09] <AlecksG> luckyruby, well if you detect positive acceleration and no negative acceleration, isn't it safe to assume the car hasn't stopped?
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[22:09] <luckyruby> AlecksG: good point
[22:09] <[Ex0r]> Hello, I wonder. Is it possible to reverse the poll on a momentary switch based on it's inputs state ?
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[22:17] <slymatt> ShorTie: I've managed to get a reading from it does 428-429ppm sound right?
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[22:21] <slymatt> hmm i lit a piece of paper next to it and it didn't change =S
[22:21] <slymatt> or is it not enough to change the value?
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[22:23] <slymatt> ShorTie: it does stay at 429 and change to 428 every now and again =S
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[22:23] <cousteau> what if you breathe on it?
[22:24] <cousteau> (this is about that CO₂ detector thing, right?)
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[22:24] <slymatt> cousteau: yes =) it is ill try
[22:25] <slymatt> cousteau: nope no change =S
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[22:25] <cousteau> or maybe put a candle inside a closed jar until it's unlit, and then put the RPi inside (beign careful not to touch the candle)
[22:26] <cousteau> wonder if CO2 goes up because it's hot or down because it's heavier than air
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[22:26] <cousteau> gotta go
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[22:30] <slymatt> i did the candle in a jar and that didn't pick up a reading hmmm
[22:31] <slymatt> anyone here used a co2 sensor with rpi and the raspberry pi to arduino breakout board?
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[22:36] <slymatt> anyone? this is frustrating me lol
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[22:40] <Laurenceb_> hi
[22:40] <Laurenceb_> whats the max gpio injection current?
[22:40] <slymatt> ShorTie: how do you heat up the co2 reader?
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[22:43] <gordonDrogon> Laurenceb_, stick to 15mA either way and you'll probably be OK.
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[22:44] <[Ex0r]> 5.1v @ 0.7A is that enough to power a pi ?
[22:44] <Encrypt> Yes
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> [Ex0r], is that's what your wall-wart says then it ought to be ok.
[22:45] <[Ex0r]> Without any issues ?
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[22:45] <Laurenceb_> injection current
[22:45] <Laurenceb_> not output
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[22:45] <gordonDrogon> Laurenceb_, it's the same - the Pi can sink or source the same.
[22:45] <Laurenceb_> nono
[22:45] <[Ex0r]> It's an old microusb phone charge I have, that says it does 5.1v 0.7A, but i'm wondering if that's what's causing my issues on my new pi
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> what do you mean then?
[22:46] <Laurenceb_> current shoved into it through the ESD protection
[22:46] <slymatt> does a mq135 require a 20kohm resistor or is a 10kohm fine?
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[22:46] <gordonDrogon> Laurenceb_, are you connect it to a > 3.3v source?
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[22:47] <[Ex0r]> ive got retropie installed via the sd-card image, but i'm having issues with the system that other's don't appear to be having
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[22:49] <Laurenceb_> <gordonDrogon> yes
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[22:50] <gordonDrogon> Laurenceb_, well - er - good luck there then (I think)! You're in uncharted territory - most people will say anything over 3.3v will destroy a gpio pin ...
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> not if its current limited
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> but im not sure how limited it needs to be
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> I suspect no-one really knows - maybe broadcom when they did the tests, but it's not something ever to be expected in the sort of designes it was intended for..
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[23:05] <[Ex0r]> hmm does the rpi have a voltage regulator on it so you cant give it too much juice ?
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[23:06] <[Ex0r]> like if you were gonna connect it up to the 5v lead of a PC molex connector, for example
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[23:10] <[Ex0r]> nevermind, I just looked online and it looks like it does have input protection so you cant fry it by giving it too much juice
[23:10] <mgottschlag2> [Ex0r]: for power supplies, voltage is what matters
[23:10] <slymatt> has anyone used a humidity sensor with raspberry?
[23:10] <mgottschlag2> maximum current can be as high as you want
[23:10] <mgottschlag2> because a device always only draws the current it needs (at a fixed voltage)
[23:10] <[Ex0r]> mgottschlag2- It was just an example, but wouldn't a 5v regulator coming off of the 5v lead on a molex connector from a PC power supply give it enough ?
[23:11] <mgottschlag2> sure, that would certainly work
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[23:12] <[Ex0r]> im taking an old original xbox, and gutting it. Instead of making a proprietary connector, I am just going to reuse the power supply that came with the xbox (Its got a molex connector on it for powering the internal hdd), and I was just going to feed into that to power the pi internally
[23:12] <[Ex0r]> only problem is, its going to pull quite a bit coming into the system, so its going to waste quite a bit of power
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[23:13] <[Ex0r]> since the input on it is I think 120
[23:15] <[Ex0r]> yeah, its rated between 100-127v @ 1.2A
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[23:21] <slymatt> does anyone use a dht11 humidity and temp sensor?
[23:21] <mgottschlag2> [Ex0r]: so, it can draw at most ~150W, but that does not mean that it will always use that much power
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[23:23] <mgottschlag2> although I doubt that the power supply will be efficient for such small loads
[23:23] <Encrypt> o/ mgottschlag2 :)
[23:23] <mgottschlag2> hi
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[23:29] <[Ex0r]> mgottschlag2- is that enough, either way ?
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[23:29] <mgottschlag2> more than enough
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[23:29] <[Ex0r]> im assuming its way more than enough
[23:29] <mgottschlag2> much more :p
[23:29] <mgottschlag2> yeah
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[23:30] <[Ex0r]> but I didnt want to give the pi TOO MUCH
[23:30] <[Ex0r]> and have it burn it up
[23:30] <mgottschlag2> that's not possible
[23:30] <mgottschlag2> as long as you only give it 5V, it takes as much current as it needs
[23:30] <[Ex0r]> what if you were to push more than 5v to it?
[23:31] <[Ex0r]> like, 12v or something ?
[23:31] <mgottschlag2> at 12v, it's going to smell bad pretty quickly
[23:31] <mgottschlag2> everything between 4.75 and 5.25V is within specifications, and there might be some margin bezond that, but not much
[23:32] <[Ex0r]> thats what i meant
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[23:32] <[Ex0r]> was what if you give it too much voltage, like if the psu doesnt put 5v, but instead puts out 12. I guess thats what the regulator is for though to make sure it doesnt output more than 5
[23:33] <mgottschlag2> ah, wait, you are putting another regulator between the pi and the power supply? then you can have more than 5V, but the regulator itself might need a certain voltage difference, so the input voltage needs to be something like 6V or higher
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[23:33] <mgottschlag2> if you have a multimeter, measure before you do anything which could be dangerous to the hardware :)
[23:34] <[Ex0r]> oh yeah, ha
[23:34] <[Ex0r]> well I KNOW that standard molex has a 12v wire, two grounds, and a 5v wire
[23:34] <mgottschlag2> you should be able to connect the pi directly to the 5V wire
[23:35] <[Ex0r]> and its a standard hdd in the system, so I know that its a 5v lead on the molex, I am just going to put a regulator between the molex connector and the pi so as a safeguard in case it draws 6 or 7 volts or it spikes
[23:35] <mgottschlag2> and if you use a regulator, use the 12V wire (and make sure that the regulator is efficient enough)
[23:35] <mgottschlag2> what kind of regulator?
[23:35] <[Ex0r]> yeah, I could do that. 7805 regulator which is a standard generic one takes 12v i believe
[23:37] <mgottschlag2> no, that won't work
[23:37] <[Ex0r]> why won't it ?
[23:37] <[Ex0r]> it takes a minimum 7.5v input to regulate 5v out
[23:37] <mgottschlag2> actually, it will probably work, but you need a heatsink :)
[23:38] <mgottschlag2> if you put that regulator between 12V and the pi (and the pi consumes 500mA), then the regulator will dissipate (12V-5V)*500mA=3.5W
[23:38] <mgottschlag2> but that's doable with some kind of heatsink
[23:38] <[Ex0r]> what regulator would you suggest using than? Sure I can go without one and just use 5v lead, but in the case of voltage spikes I dont want to fry the pi
[23:38] <mgottschlag2> of course your whole system will have an efficiency of about 30% then :D
[23:39] <[Ex0r]> im already gonna waste a bunch of power on the input to the psu anyway, but I will have a usb hub attached to it too with some other stuff connected to the power supply, so it won't be AS bad
[23:39] <mgottschlag2> a switching regulator would be better (because it would be much more efficient)
[23:40] <mgottschlag2> yeah, probably just use a heatsink and a 7805
[23:40] <[Ex0r]> heatsink would go on the 7805 yeah?
[23:40] <[Ex0r]> There's also an internal 40mm fan in there too to keep the inside of the chassis cool
[23:41] <Encrypt> https://twitter.com/hubert3/status/459580842285617152/photo/1
[23:41] <mgottschlag2> [Ex0r]: I use one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buck-DC-4-75-35V-to-1-25-26V-Voltage-Converters-Regulated-Power-Supplies-LM2596-/131176391010?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e8ab8e162
[23:41] <Encrypt> (Just for fun)
[23:41] <mgottschlag2> yes, heatsink on the 7805
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[23:43] <[Ex0r]> wow, theres a lot of stuff to that one, ha
[23:43] <[Ex0r]> i take it that gold screw is to adjust the voltage ?
[23:44] <mgottschlag2> yes
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[23:45] <[Ex0r]> this old xbox case works out perfectly, the controller ports (4), when hollowed out are just big enough for a usb extension cable to fit inside, so I can have 4 external ports for controllers (Only need two, and two more extra ones for additional peripherals), and the video connector cutout on the back fits my encasement perfectly
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[23:45] <mgottschlag2> same thing, but much smaller: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/OKI-78SR-5%2F1.5-W36-C/811-2196-5-ND/2259781?WT.mc_id=IQ_7595_pla2259781&wt.srch=1&wt.medi :)
[23:45] <[Ex0r]> and once the mobo and internals are removed from it, it weighs much lighter, although not as 'portable'
[23:46] <[Ex0r]> oh wow, thats much smaller
[23:46] <[Ex0r]> where do you control the voltage at?
[23:46] <mgottschlag2> those are marketed as more efficient 7805 replacements, and they are just the same size :D
[23:46] <mgottschlag2> anyways, I am off for today, gn8
[23:46] <mgottschlag2> those are fixed voltage
[23:47] <[Ex0r]> thank you mgottschlag2, youve been a big help
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[23:52] <[Ex0r]> now to figure out the power on/power off circuit
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[23:52] <[Ex0r]> using the existing power button/leds
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[23:55] <slymatt> anyone know what this converts to for raspberry this is in arduino code if ARDUINIO >= 100
[23:56] <slymatt> #include "arduino.h" else #include "program.h"
[23:56] <slymatt> whats the pi equivalent =S
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[23:58] <[Ex0r]> well I can tell you from the code, it's saying if the arduino IO is greater than or equal to 100, include arduino.h, otherwise include program.h headers. Not used arduino before but it appears that all arduino specific IO relations are above 100, and user-specified ones are below 100
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[23:59] <slymatt> confused lol

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