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IRC Log for 2014-04-30

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[0:00] <ckoch786> Jeebiss, hello
[0:00] <rikkib> Put an echo "something" in rc.local
[0:00] <Jeebiss> i just tried to plug a usb cable into the ethernet port on my pi for like 2 minutes
[0:00] <haversine> lol
[0:00] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], pastebin your rc.local
[0:00] <[Ex0r]> rikkib- http://pastebin.com/wn0VzA0a
[0:00] <rikkib> Then watch at boot time
[0:00] <[Ex0r]> thats what im currently using
[0:00] <[Ex0r]> the xboxdrv one executes, but the gpio ones dont
[0:00] <rikkib> rc.local is executed last
[0:01] <[Ex0r]> is there a better file that executes right when the kernel boots up ?
[0:01] <shiftplusone> if xboxdrv executes then the others do too.... I think what you mean is that it's not doing what you want it to do.
[0:02] <[Ex0r]> yeah, its not setting the gpio pins
[0:03] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], well... I think I see the problem
[0:03] <shiftplusone> /usr/local/bin/gpio -1 mode 26 out ; gpio -1 write 26 1
[0:03] <shiftplusone> that's two commands in one line, that's fine, but...
[0:03] <[Ex0r]> I think I do too, I need to put them on seperate lines
[0:03] <shiftplusone> in the first case, you use a full path
[0:03] <rikkib> Breakfast time for me sorry
[0:03] <[Ex0r]> the second one isnt going since it snot a full path, too
[0:03] <shiftplusone> then in the second one, you don't
[0:04] <[Ex0r]> just noticed that after looking at the code on-screen
[0:04] <rikkib> If you know for sure the commands are in the path full path may not be needed.
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[0:04] <shiftplusone> I think the rc.local environment might be a bit too minimal
[0:05] <shiftplusone> (for PATH to be fully set)
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[0:05] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- That one worked perfectly, ha. If I would have pulled the code out and looked at it on my screen I probably would of eventually noticed that, too. Once you pasted the line it stuck right out
[0:07] <[Ex0r]> okay, now to write the script that stays running in the background waiting for input
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[0:07] <shiftplusone> Hmm.... looks like firefox has re-worked their UI
[0:07] <shiftplusone> by copying chrome's O_o
[0:07] <[Ex0r]> lol
[0:08] <[Ex0r]> I guess whatever works, eh ?
[0:08] <shiftplusone> I'm not complaining. As long as they don't cut out functionality
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[0:11] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- Quick question if you don't mind. Do you know how to specify sudo with no prompt from within python ?
[0:11] <ckoch786> how do I use minicom for testing the tx and rx at both ends?
[0:11] <shiftplusone> I don't know what "specify sudo with no prompt" means
[0:12] <ShorTie> live on the wild side and run it as root
[0:12] <[Ex0r]> well when you run sudo, it prompts for a password. Is there a way I can run sudo shutdown -h now automated
[0:12] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], yes, but you shouldn't resort to it. Your script will be running at root anyway.
[0:12] <shiftplusone> *as
[0:13] <[Ex0r]> I thought so too, but im using it and its telling me it requires root
[0:13] <shiftplusone> how are you using it?
[0:13] <shiftplusone> from rc.local or just directly?
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[0:13] <[Ex0r]> directly right now, but its gonna be in rc.local
[0:13] <[Ex0r]> im using sudo python autostart.py
[0:13] <shiftplusone> can I see autostart.py?
[0:14] <[Ex0r]> import os
[0:14] <[Ex0r]> os.system("/usr/local/bin/gpio -1 wfi 5 falling")
[0:14] <[Ex0r]> os.system("shutdown -h now")
[0:14] <linuxstb> [Ex0r]: Something like "user ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown" in /etc/sudoers should let any user run "sudo shutdown" without a prompt.
[0:14] <shiftplusone> why isn't it a bash script then? O_o
[0:14] <[Ex0r]> hmm, hold on its going
[0:15] <shiftplusone> (also, you'll want to give full path for shutdown
[0:15] <shiftplusone> )
[0:16] <[Ex0r]> hmm i guess I could use /sbin/halt
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[0:17] <ebswift> hey, i'm running a python script from a crontab, the script itself runs, but a commands.getoutput calling /sbin/ifconfig comes up with a blank - running the python from the shell returns a value, any ideas?
[0:17] <shiftplusone> shutdown is pretty much halt, if I recall correctly.
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[0:18] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], but again though, why is it python if you're just using os.system calls?
[0:18] <ShorTie> depends on the - option, it can reboot too
[0:18] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- I dunno, it was the only way I could figure out how to do it
[0:18] <ckoch786> when I connect to both ends via minicom all I get is the Welcome screen, displays the port that I am connected to and, Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys. How do I test the connections with this? I used the command from http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection to connect on both ends
[0:19] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], a bash script. sec
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[0:19] <ebswift> here's a better explanation of my problem: http://www.pasteall.org/51221
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[0:19] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], can you tell me what 'which shutdown' says?
[0:20] <ShorTie> says /sbin/shutdown
[0:20] <[Ex0r]> - /sbin/shutdown
[0:20] <shiftplusone> thanks
[0:20] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], http://pastie.org/9125464
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[0:21] <[Ex0r]> wow, that was easy enough
[0:21] <[Ex0r]> than in /etc/rc.local just do ./filename.sh ?
[0:21] <shiftplusone> save that wherever (for example, /home/pi/derp), then you can put /home/pi/derp & in your rc.local
[0:21] <Jeebiss> This is pretty exciting, I am getting useful information from my mpu-6050 :D
[0:21] <Jeebiss> Onto my pi
[0:21] <Jeebiss> Now I just need to figure out how to use a PID
[0:21] <Jeebiss> whatever that means lol
[0:22] <[Ex0r]> - /home/pi/autostart.sh
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[0:23] <shiftplusone> oh
[0:23] <shiftplusone> don't forget to chmod +x /home/pi/autostart.sh
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[0:24] <[Ex0r]> awesome, thats probably why it didnt work
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[0:25] <[Ex0r]> LET THERE BE POWER! awesome
[0:25] <shiftplusone> so.... got an on/off switch and an annoying LED working?
[0:25] <[Ex0r]> lol two leds
[0:26] <shiftplusone> TWO annoying LEDs? nice!
[0:26] <[Ex0r]> lmao
[0:26] <[Ex0r]> all thats left of this project is the hard reset button tied to the pi
[0:26] <ebswift> today an LED and a button, tomorrow, sensors, motors...
[0:26] <shiftplusone> you're in luck
[0:26] <[Ex0r]> in the case it locks up
[0:26] <shiftplusone> there should be reset pins you can just connect a switch to.
[0:26] <shiftplusone> without any extras
[0:26] <[Ex0r]> yep
[0:27] <[Ex0r]> already on it, had to go out and get a pin header grid so I could solder it
[0:27] <shiftplusone> ah, so you know then. excellent
[0:27] <[Ex0r]> yep :) That's what I was saying earlier, the power/led circuit was the hardest part of this whole project for me, and you and gordonDrogon made it very easy
[0:27] <[Ex0r]> pretty much walked me through it, with the exception of me actually doing the soldering
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[1:26] <[Ex0r]> grr i think my pi install got corrupted, it just goes to a black screen now
[1:27] <ckoch786> When I attempt to connect to a rpi over the UART using a USB cable using the screen command nothing happens
[1:27] <ckoch786> I never get a prompt to the shell
[1:27] <shiftplusone> ckoch786, what's the full command you used?
[1:27] <ckoch786> screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
[1:27] <ckoch786> shiftplusone, ^
[1:28] <shiftplusone> is there an error?
[1:29] <ckoch786> nothing just a blank screen session starts with ttyUSB0 as the only screen
[1:29] <ckoch786> I can type text, which shows up on the screen but nothing happens
[1:29] <shiftplusone> and you're sure that's not from the pi itself?
[1:30] <ckoch786> shiftplusone, ?
[1:30] <shiftplusone> it sounds like it's doing exactly what it should
[1:31] <ckoch786> I thought that I would get a shell prompt if I connected to the pi over the UART/usb
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[1:31] <shiftplusone> yeah, that's why I asked if it's the pi's shell prompt or your pc's shell prompt
[1:33] <ckoch786> I am executing the screen command prom my pc's shell prompt
[1:34] <shiftplusone> yes, I got that.... and that should get you to your pi's "shell prompt"
[1:34] <ckoch786> shiftplusone, right, except it is not
[1:35] <shiftplusone> excellent, that's all I was trying to establish.
[1:36] <shiftplusone> tried minicom?
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[1:37] <ckoch786> yes, I get the same result
[1:37] <shiftplusone> then it's haunted
[1:37] <ckoch786> I connect to it, but the bottom right corner says Offline
[1:39] <shiftplusone> if you disconnect the pi and short the rx and tx pins on the adapter, it should echo it's input
[1:39] <shiftplusone> might be worth a shot
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[1:40] <rikkib> Offline is no indicater
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[1:40] <rikkib> I am connected to my gps right no and it says offline
[1:41] <rikkib> Let me see what mods are there
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[1:41] <rikkib> modules
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[1:42] <ckoch786> shiftplusone, shorting out the tx and rx on the adapter works
[1:42] <ckoch786> I get the transmission
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[1:43] <shiftplusone> and you're connecting rx to rpi's tx and vice-versa?
[1:43] <ckoch786> no I am connecting rx to rx and tx to tx
[1:44] <shiftplusone> oh, that's wrong
[1:44] <[Ex0r]> hmm very weird, The setup I made works perfectly until I put it all together, than it stops working. (I had just the LED circuit board testing, and when I put it all back in the case it stops working for some reason
[1:44] <rikkib> You are not changing the gpio pullups on the serial port of the rpi?
[1:44] <[Ex0r]> ckoch786- tx is transmit rx is receive, you need tx-rx rx-tx
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[1:44] <rikkib> rs232 is nrz no return to zero
[1:45] <stopgap> Hey. I'm building a circuit to control several devices (drawing up to 10W) from a 12v battery. With the correct mosfets (which someone helped me with earlier) do I need to add something between the common ground and the gpio pin? a diode/resistor?
[1:45] <stopgap> It seems like it needs protecting
[1:45] <rikkib> logic fets?
[1:46] <rikkib> you are using?
[1:46] <stopgap> these: http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/5409941/
[1:46] * ckoch786 deeply sighs
[1:48] <stopgap> at least I think those are suitable mosfets... I'm new to the electronics side of things :)
[1:49] <rikkib> I would use a current limit RG in the gate as per the data sheet test circuits
[1:49] <stopgap> RG?
[1:49] <rikkib> Gate Resistor in the data sheet test circuits
[1:50] <stopgap> ah right
[1:50] <rikkib> limit current to 1 to 2 mA
[1:50] <stopgap> right, I'll go find one on rs then, thanks :)
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[1:51] <rikkib> Do you know how to work out value of RG?
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[1:52] <stopgap> no... also, I might have varying loads, will that be a problem?
[1:52] <ckoch786> ok, well now that I found out that they were backwards and fixed it, it still does not work
[1:53] <rikkib> 3.3/.001 = 3300 3.3K
[1:53] <stopgap> is that just v/c ?
[1:53] <rikkib> 2.2K is fine to
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[1:54] <rikkib> 1K if hiogher speed switching is desired
[1:54] <shiftplusone> ckoch786, what about from the pi.... short the tx and rx pins on the pi and then connect to /dev/ttyAMA0 on the pi ?
[1:54] <stopgap> max 3 per second, so not needed there. I have a huge bundle of resistors already, I won't need to buy one in that case.
[1:54] <shiftplusone> if that works, then... well who knows.
[1:55] <stopgap> Thanks for the help, much appreciated :D
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[1:55] <ckoch786> shiftplusone, that works
[1:55] <rikkib> 550 ohm is max theoretic pin current one should on a rpi when driving several pins
[1:55] <shiftplusone> ckoch786, do you connect the adapter's ground pin to the pi's ground pin?
[1:56] <ckoch786> yes
[1:56] <stopgap> This is actually via an expander chip
[1:56] <stopgap> I feared frying my pi too much :)
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[1:56] <shiftplusone> ckoch786, just gnd, tx and rx, and nothing else, right?
[1:56] <rikkib> ohms law
[1:56] <ckoch786> right
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[1:56] <shiftplusone> ckoch786, the last thing I can think of is maybe it's a 5v adapter rather than 3.3v.
[1:56] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- I think that bash script for gpio is causing my system to hang
[1:57] <rikkib> voltage divided by current equals resistance of the circuit
[1:57] <ckoch786> the adapter is this https://www.adafruit.com/products/954
[1:57] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], why do you think that?
[1:57] <[Ex0r]> because with it activated it boots up, than sits at a black screen
[1:57] <[Ex0r]> once I comment it out, it boots up
[1:57] <stopgap> ah yes, it's been about 20 years since I learned all that in school... time to refresh some neural pathways there me thinks ;)
[1:57] <rikkib> expander chips need no special precautions
[1:57] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], pastebin your rc.local
[1:58] <shiftplusone> ckoch786, well, I give up, sorry =(
[1:58] <shiftplusone> ckoch786, we've established that the adapter works, the pi's serial port works, you can talk to either.... but when you connect the two together, something doesn't work, which makes no sense. =/
[1:58] <[Ex0r]> http://pastebin.com/9zhBnWPt
[1:59] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], you dropped a &
[1:59] <[Ex0r]> dropped ?
[1:59] <shiftplusone> /home/pi/autostart.sh &
[1:59] <[Ex0r]> it is supposed to go after every command ?
[2:00] <shiftplusone> after every command that doesn't exit
[2:00] <shiftplusone> it runs the command in the background
[2:00] <shiftplusone> so the rest of the script can run
[2:00] <ckoch786> shiftplusone, I will probably find that it is something really stupid tomorrow
[2:00] <ckoch786> thanks for the help though.
[2:00] <shiftplusone> ckoch786, good luck. Report back if you can.
[2:00] <[Ex0r]> so should I put it on the other two too just to be safe ?
[2:00] <ckoch786> will do
[2:00] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], no no
[2:01] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], if those commands don't exit, something is terribly wrong and you would want to know about it.
[2:01] <[Ex0r]> lol
[2:01] <shiftplusone> and I don't thinkt he xboxdrv needs it either
[2:01] <shiftplusone> since there's the --daemon option
[2:01] <[Ex0r]> that was put in there automatically
[2:01] <stopgap> bit of a random question now... I'm trying to find some suitable connectors for the 12v side so that I can easily unplug the attached motors/lights, similar to the 4 pin plugs you'd get in cars/on motherboards (inline, not board mounted). I can't for the life of me find the right name to search for them... any idea what type I need to look for?
[2:02] <[Ex0r]> and thank you, that worked! That was probably why my reset button wasnt working, too was because of that
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[2:02] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], shouldn't affect the reset button at all
[2:02] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- I mean the one waiting for the app (on/off button). Once I tightened it all up and put it back together it stopped working.
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[2:03] <[Ex0r]> stopgap- a molex connector would work
[2:03] <stopgap> ah, thanks!
[2:03] <[Ex0r]> stopgap- http://www.linuxappliance.net/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/m/o/molex_splitter.jpg
[2:03] <[Ex0r]> that ?
[2:04] <stopgap> oh, not quite.. I'm talking about the square 2x2 pin arrangement style with a latch to keep them joined
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[2:05] <stopgap> http://www.bestcables.co.uk/images/items/33279big.jpg the small end of those
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[2:05] <stopgap> I can't find what they're called though
[2:05] <[Ex0r]> Those are standard p1/p2 power connectors
[2:05] <[Ex0r]> those aren't in-line though btw, those mount to a board
[2:06] <stopgap> indeed - I've seen very similar ones in cars which are inline
[2:06] <[Ex0r]> sorry thats not p1 p2 either, thats the extra plug used for newer processors and some video cards
[2:06] <[Ex0r]> its called a p4 power connector
[2:06] <[Ex0r]> dont know where you will find the female in-line end though
[2:06] <[Ex0r]> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200496
[2:06] <[Ex0r]> nevermind, I spoke too soon
[2:07] <stopgap> ah awesome, thanks :)
[2:07] <[Ex0r]> (y)
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[2:09] <[Ex0r]> so anyway, back to testing the system, bbl
[2:09] <stopgap> cheers
[2:09] <stopgap> thanks both, I'm off to sleep easy now I have that sorted. Night :)
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[3:15] <Threnody_> a
[3:15] <Threnody_> I know this is a board question but what was the coolest thing you saw a pi do?
[3:15] <Threnody_> Broad*
[3:16] <shiftplusone> fly to space
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[4:09] <[Ex0r]> grr.. i got an adjustable regulator but cant figure out how to set the voltage
[4:09] <[Ex0r]> i know i need two resistors but cant find the values
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[4:25] <ebswift> i have a usb device that does not like the raspi rebooting, it won't list under lsusb. it will however work properly when the power is pulled and plugged back in (power to everything). the device also works in a hub. i tried sending power directly from the supply to the device but this didn't work, any ideas on how to have the device survive a reboot?
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[4:40] <bruxc> flashing a fresh img of wheezy raspian on the RPi. attemping to SSH via LAN to my laptop but I keep getting a connection refused. I statically assigned the IP address so I know i"m using the correct IP. I'm able to ping it as well. Can someone shed some light on what I'm doing wrong?
[4:40] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: haven't started ssh?
[4:40] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: conn refused = "yes I'm here, but nothing is listening on that port"
[4:40] <bruxc> Triffid_Hunter: I figured. So how would one successfully be able to get into their Pi w/o needing a monitor?
[4:41] <bruxc> Or to better rephrase my question. If you need to toggle this setting, how would you do so w/o a monitor?
[4:41] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: edit the image on the SD card to auto start sshd.. should be a tutorial around somewhere
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[4:41] <bruxc> Gotcha.
[4:41] <bruxc> What does that mean, "auto start sshd"?
[4:41] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: so it starts automatically when you turn your rpi on
[4:42] <atouk> use raspi-config to turn it on and reboot
[4:42] <bruxc> Thanks for being responsive and helpful.
[4:43] <bruxc> It looks like I need to open up a linux terminal in order to achieve this. Any recommendations or articles you could refer to me for Windows?
[4:43] <Triffid_Hunter> atouk: raspi-config isn't much help with no screen
[4:44] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: no, sorry. windows is hard mode.. haven't used it for over a decade
[4:44] <atouk> didn't see teh no screen part
[4:44] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: should be able to find a linux VM someplace.. I'm sure ubuntu have released at least a couple of dvd images with virtual machines as torrents
[4:44] <bruxc> Probably be a good idea to create a virtual box then huh?
[4:45] <bruxc> That'll be a fun project. I'm up for it.
[4:45] <bruxc> Well, I have a lead. Thank you very much, Triffid_Hunter
[4:45] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: it'll help you navigate your rpi via ssh, that's for sure! once you have it behaving, putty is a fine ssh client for windows
[4:45] <bruxc> Last question
[4:46] <bruxc> Hypothetically,
[4:46] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: hm, internet seems to suggest that wheezy has sshd on boot by default
[4:46] <bruxc> Is it possible to configure an SSH connection to linux via Windows without any Linux OS help?
[4:46] <bruxc> That's interesting.
[4:47] <Triffid_Hunter> how
[4:47] <Triffid_Hunter> 'd you set static ip?
[4:47] <bruxc> Good question.
[4:47] <bruxc> Right-clicked on my LAN > properties > ipv4 > set manually IP|Subnet|Gateway
[4:48] <bruxc> Same subnet, same gateway, vacant IP.
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[4:51] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: um that sets it for your windows box, not the rpi
[4:52] <bruxc> derp.
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[4:52] <bruxc> the Pi is plugged in to my laptop. I figured it would be able to ICS from my WLAN thru the LAN.
[4:52] <bruxc> Guess that's not the case.
[4:53] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: does windows have avahi or similar service discovery? if so, you can just ping rpi.local or something like that to discover its ip address
[4:54] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: well sure, if you've set up ICS then your windows box should have assigned it an ip address. just find the list of assigned addresses and you're good to go
[4:54] <bruxc> I'm not familiar with AVAHI other than what the wikipedia article has explained.
[4:54] <bruxc> The trick is to finding/verifying what the IP address is then.
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[4:55] <bruxc> In which case, I'm not exactly sure how someone would do that. I would think you should be able to do that thru cmd prompt...
[4:55] <[Ex0r]> bruxc- cant you find out from your router ?
[4:55] <[Ex0r]> via connected devices ?
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[4:56] <Triffid_Hunter> [Ex0r]: his computer is the router
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[4:57] <atouk> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipscan/
[4:57] <[Ex0r]> oh, I see what he's doing, bridging the connection ?
[4:57] <bruxc> Ex0r: Unfortunately, my router doesn't show it as a connected device when it's plugged into the laptop.
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[4:58] <bruxc> oops.
[4:59] <bruxc> I saw that you posted the angry ip scanner. Not to be a tool bag, but is there a way to do it thru cmd prompt? Reason why I ask is I feel like the IP scanner is cheating me out of a learning experience.
[4:59] <Triffid_Hunter> [Ex0r]: no it's not a bridge, it's NAT
[5:00] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: why not plug the rpi into your router? will be heaps easier than dealing with windows' stupidity
[5:00] <bruxc> Agreed. I'm upstairs in bed. Plus, tomorrow I'll be at work with some time to kill and no routers around.
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[5:01] <bruxc> Exor: Not bridged, using ICS
[5:01] <bruxc> Would bridge help?
[5:01] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: yes, but windows doesn't support it afaik
[5:01] <bruxc> did an arp -a in cmd
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[5:02] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: bridge would make it look (from the router's perspective) like your computer and the rpi were both plugged into a hub, and that hub was connected to your router
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[5:02] <bruxc> Triffid_Hunter: So that would be helpful then?
[5:03] <Triffid_Hunter> bruxc: it would be effectively the same as plugging your rpi into your router
[5:03] <bruxc> OK, I bridged the LAN/WLAN together.
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[5:04] <bruxc_> aaaaand i'm back.
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[5:05] <Triffid_Hunter> router can see your rpi now, reports it as connected device?
[5:05] <bruxc_> negative :(
[5:06] <Triffid_Hunter> bridge ain't working then
[5:06] <bruxc_> bummer.
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[5:18] <dgbaley> Hey, is there a way to check the input power in amps/watts so I can see how much my pi is using / able to draw from the power source?
[5:20] <Triffid_Hunter> dgbaley: sure, current meter on the +5v line. suggest you use one with a hall sensor as the extra resistance may drop the voltage too low and prevent your rpi from running properly
[5:21] <dgbaley> Triffid_Hunter: I mean from a util or /sys file. I don't have a multimeter
[5:22] <Triffid_Hunter> dgbaley: I don't believe the rpi measures it
[5:22] <Triffid_Hunter> dgbaley: your power source should be able to provide a solid 1A at 5v. note that many phone chargers cannot- they have "5v 1A" written on them, but when you actually test it you find out it can provide 5v OR 1A but not both at the same time
[5:23] <Triffid_Hunter> easiest way around that is to get one rated 2.5A, or get a specific rpi supply from a reputable supplier
[5:23] <dgbaley> Triffid_Hunter: actually, what I'm really getting at is that I bought a power strip with two usb charging ports @ 2.1A and I want to know if it's shared or not
[5:25] <Triffid_Hunter> dgbaley: they are almost certainly shared
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[7:57] <ebswift> anyone know if the hotplug fix (using the 150uF cap) also fixes USB devices dropping during boot?
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[7:57] <ebswift> (after reboot)
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[9:40] <nanui> dear people, is it possible to connect a mcp3008 to a mcp3008 to a mcp3008 to a raspberrypi to have something like 24 analog inputs?
[9:42] <nanui> because the data-sheet tells for the Dout a shift register
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[9:42] <Triffid_Hunter> nanui: you can hook up more than one but it looks like they'll each need their own CS pin
[9:43] <ShorTie> i believe you can stack them like that, but it might be easier to use something like a mcp27c17 that has 16 i/o's
[9:43] <Triffid_Hunter> nanui: because data is not copied from Din to Dout, rather the chip expects a packet header at Din and then provides results on Dout
[9:45] <ShorTie> mcp23s17*
[9:45] <nanui> the thing is, in reality i need about 120 analog inputs for a responsive floor
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[9:47] <ShorTie> i2c bus with a mcp23017 might be even a better option
[9:48] <ShorTie> 8 devices at 16 i/o's = 128
[9:49] <nanui> that looks great, but are this analog or digital inputs?
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[9:50] <ShorTie> mcp23x17 is the big brother of the mcp3008, so i would say yes to analog input
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[9:55] <ShorTie> this might be an interesting read for you http://wiringpi.com/extensions/i2c-mcp23008-mcp23017/
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[10:00] <gordonDrogon> the 23x17 is digital.
[10:01] <gordonDrogon> nanui, you can connect up to 8 mcp3008's to the Pi. (from memory)
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[10:01] <ShorTie> oops, me bad, i put x to mean either 0 or S
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[10:06] <nanui> i think there is no specific 23x17, its always meant to be a either 0 or S and i don't find anaything about analog input in the data sheet, always gpio I/O
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[10:09] <Furah> Anyone got any cool uses for the rpi? I'm at a loss. My modem already supports 2 HDDs for network storage, torrenting is out, and I'm finding that I just don't have the time or motivation for retro gaming.
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[10:10] <Spice_Boy> depends what you're into
[10:10] <Spice_Boy> I got one, loved it, then got a heap more
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[10:11] <Triffid_Hunter> Furah: they're great for HD video
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[10:11] <Furah> I should probably add-on to the torrenting being out, also most internet things are out, as I do only get 10gb/mo, due to where I live.
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[10:14] <Furah> I'm the stereotypical IT student that never has an answer for what-do-you-like questions.
[10:16] <Furah> I did originally get it for retro gaming, but like I said I now either don't have the time, or don't feel like it.
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[10:18] <Furah> Just a link to a project or a rough idea would suffice, I'm capable of looking them up myself.
[10:18] <Triffid_Hunter> Furah: hackaday.com might spur your imagination
[10:19] <Furah> Oh man, how did I forget about hackaday?
[10:19] <Furah> Thanks, I'll get stuck into it.
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[13:00] <Vector-> Hah, the most amazing advert I've seen: http://livingwithlag.com/ Clever use of a Pi :)
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[13:14] <gordonDrogon> Vector-, intersting advert, but good use of a Pi - not sure what it's doing though - poviding the 0.3 to 3 seconds video buffer I guess.
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[13:16] <Vector-> Apart from connecting the devices that seems to be about it
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[13:45] <rosapoP> is there a raspbian image without gui and wireless stuff?
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[13:47] <[Ex0r]> you could build one yourself
[13:47] <[Ex0r]> if youve got an extra linux machine
[13:48] <rosapoP> i have a few of those
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[13:48] <[Ex0r]> else install the image than disable gui and wireless
[13:48] <mgottschlag> rosapoP: try the netinstall image
[13:49] <mgottschlag> it defaults to a server install, and there is some way to select an even smaller profile
[13:49] <rosapoP> where do i get that?
[13:50] <rosapoP> its running as a server now and will continue to do that just need a clean install.
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[14:12] <gordonDrogon> BASIC, BASIC everywhere and not a line to code ;-)
[14:13] <gordonDrogon> 10 PRINT "I 3> BASIC"
[14:13] <gordonDrogon> etc.
[14:13] <rosapoP> 20 GO TO 10?
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> if you insist - I was going for the minimalist approach :)
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[14:14] <gordonDrogon> http://drogon.net/rtb
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/basics.jpg
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[14:15] * rosapoP prefers c/c++ or assembly
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> my basic interpreter is written in C ...
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[14:17] <gordonDrogon> I did spend a day looking at how I could compile my BASIC into ARM assembler...
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> figured it wouldn't be that hard, but not worth the effort of doing it.
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> it's fast enough anyway.
[14:18] <gordonDrogon> and cross platform - well Linux!
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[15:08] <Bhaal> Gotta love how these DS18B20 temp sensors are super accurate... I have 2 side by side, plus a DHT22 next to them...
[15:08] <Bhaal> DHT22 reports 29.2'C, next to it reports 28.2'C, and then the last reports 27.9'C
[15:09] <Bhaal> So between the DS18B20 on a little freetronics module card there is only .2 of a degree (the 27.9 one just went up) ...
[15:10] <Bhaal> But a whole degree between them and the DHT22
[15:10] <[Ex0r]> Bhaal- are you familiar with adjustable voltage regulators by any chance ?
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[15:32] <gordonDrogon> Bhaal, +/- 1 degree is 1% accuracy over the 0-100 range. That's typical for low-price sensors.
[15:33] <Bhaal> Yeah I know... Well I am modifying the result from the DHT22, taking 1 degree off it...
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[15:34] <gordonDrogon> do you really need accuracy to 1 degree?
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> and ... how do you know that the dht22 isn't the accurate one and the others are off :)
[15:35] <Bhaal> *shrug* its not difficult to make the change on the fly in the bash script .. And it gives me a better idea of how well my server rack is cooling itself...
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[15:36] <gordonDrogon> relative changes ought to be accurate - the absolute value is the one that'll have an offset.
[15:36] <gordonDrogon> over a typical range anyway.
[15:36] <gordonDrogon> I have a very accurate kitchen thermometer - came with a calibration certificate and everything...
[15:36] <Bhaal> gordonDrogon: It might well be the accurate one, but presently I have nothing to test it against, so I am starting with a level playing field.. Its not so much about the accuracy of the temp as it is about having a minimal difference between sensors...
[15:36] <gordonDrogon> but it was very expensive ):
[15:37] <Bhaal> gordonDrogon: When are you inviting me over for dinner?
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> :)
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> brb.
[15:38] <Bhaal> hahaha yeah, run away :)
[15:38] <Bhaal> (screaming)
[15:38] <Bhaal> :)
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[15:40] <Bhaal> gordonDrogon: Got it all working with a modified copy of mesowx (the pretty highcharts graphing frontend for weewx...
[15:42] <whuffor> Hello folks. New RaspPi owner from 20 minutes ago here. :)
[15:42] <whuffor> Busy formatting an SD card... Any input on what OS to use?
[15:43] <Bhaal> Welcome whuffor
[15:43] <[Ex0r]> gordonDrogon- Could you help me for a second? I have a LM317T adjustable voltage regulator that is hooked up to 5v in. Could you help me figure out what two resistors I need to pull 3.3v out ?
[15:43] <whuffor> I have used the arch distro earlier as well as Debian some time ago
[15:44] <whuffor> Thanks Bhaal
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[15:45] <[Ex0r]> hmm it looks like 640ohms would do it
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[15:47] <Bhaal> whuffor: I use Raspbian on my Pi's but that's because its what I know, I despise anything rpm, and I have never touched archLinux and don't have the time to fiddle right now..
[15:48] <whuffor> Bhaal alright. I have used Arch for several years as well as dabbled with Debian now and then. I guess I'll start with Arch and see if that suits
[15:49] <smeggysmeg> whuffor, it depends on your skill level and linux preference. I prefer rpm/redhat-like linux, but I didn't want to have to figure things out and wanted to just get mine up and running. so, i chose raspbian in order to have more walkthroughs available.
[15:49] <Bhaal> whuffor: go with what you are familiar with...
[15:50] <Bhaal> Err, what smeggysmeg said as well :)
[15:50] <whuffor> smeggysmeg I've used linux/unix since early 90s, although I haven't toyed with it much in the last couple of years.
[15:50] <smeggysmeg> then go with your preference
[15:51] <[Ex0r]> err i did that the wrong way, I need to go from 12v to 5v
[15:51] <whuffor> OK, thanks. I will. It's all about experimenting
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[15:51] <whuffor> Meh. Formatting a 16GB SD dard takes ages
[15:51] <whuffor> *card
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[15:55] <[Ex0r]> hmm would 4.82 volts be enough to power the pi using a regulator ?
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[15:56] <IT_Sean> Should do, so long as you can supply 1A or better.
[15:57] <[Ex0r]> the regulator is a max 15mA
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[15:57] <IT_Sean> 15mA will NOT run a Pi.
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[15:57] <IT_Sean> Not even close
[15:57] <[Ex0r]> wait hold it, it might have been A
[15:57] <IT_Sean> ...
[15:57] <IT_Sean> Bit of a big difference there,
[15:58] <[Ex0r]> cout is limited to 1.5A
[15:58] <whuffor> I have an HTC mobile charger that delivers 5V, 1A. From what I've read, that is enough.
[15:58] <IT_Sean> 1.5A 'll do.
[15:58] <[Ex0r]> hard to read the package
[15:58] <[Ex0r]> how can I guarantee it'll put out 1.5A ?
[15:59] <[Ex0r]> i calculated a 210 ohm for R1 and a 600ohm for R2 would produce 4.82 volts
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[16:02] <[Ex0r]> (Im using a 12v source with a voltage regulator to bring it down to 5v), and I got a LM317T adjustable voltage regulator to control it.
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[16:05] <IT_Sean> Why not just use a 5v supply?
[16:05] <mfa298> If that's a linear regulator (rather than smps) you might need a decent lump of metal on the back of it as it could get hot.
[16:05] <[Ex0r]> IT_Sean- It's a power supply, that has a 5v molex connector on it
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[16:06] <[Ex0r]> and its a true 5v, but I dont know if voltage spikes will hurt the pi
[16:06] <[Ex0r]> so i'd rather have the regulator to guarantee nothing bigger gets through
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[16:06] <gordonDrogon> [Ex0r], hi - sorry been having lunch.
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[16:06] <gordonDrogon> [Ex0r], not used one of those for years and years - but hang on.
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> [Ex0r], I have an app on my phone...
[16:08] <gordonDrogon> [Ex0r], R1 (adj to out) = 240Ω and R2 (adj to 0v) = 390Ω
[16:08] <gordonDrogon> [Ex0r], oh, *reads more* 12 to 5?
[16:08] <[Ex0r]> yeah, I need to go from 12v to 5v
[16:08] <gordonDrogon> ok R1: 240, R2: 680
[16:08] <[Ex0r]> in theory, I COULD just use the 5v lead coming from the power supply
[16:08] <gordonDrogon> get 'electrodroid' if you have an android phone :)
[16:09] <[Ex0r]> but if it ever spikes, ill be in trouble
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[16:11] <[Ex0r]> k so the 390 goes from adj to gnd, and from adj to out its a 240
[16:12] <shiftplusone> 'morning
[16:12] <gordonDrogon> [Ex0r], for 12 to 5: R1 is 240 from Adj to Out. R2 is 680 from adj to 0v.
[16:13] <gordonDrogon> output is 4.826v using standard resistors.
[16:13] <[Ex0r]> hmm, this site says that is 3.28 :(
[16:13] <[Ex0r]> oh 680
[16:13] <[Ex0r]> sorry, misread
[16:13] <gordonDrogon> yea - I thought you wee going 5 to 3.3v initially.
[16:14] <[Ex0r]> thats what i originally said, but i was mistaken
[16:14] <[Ex0r]> its a 12v source going to 5v
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[16:14] <gordonDrogon> yup - 680 and 240
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[16:15] <[Ex0r]> sounds good
[16:15] <[Ex0r]> not sure which one on here is 0v, the pinout lists vin adj and vout
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> it's going to sink 5-6 watts at 1 amp though - get a good heatsink.
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> [Ex0r], there is no 0v on the device - adj goes to 0v via R2.
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> let me see if there's an online calculator
[16:16] <[Ex0r]> gordonDrogon- That's what I was wondering about was the heat. Do you think it would be 'safe' to use the 5v feed coming in from the power supploy ?
[16:16] <SpeedEvil> Tehjre are many cheap DC-DCmodules
[16:16] <[Ex0r]> supply*
[16:17] <[Ex0r]> its a molex connector thats got a 12v a 5v and two gnds
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> http://www.electronics-lab.com/articles/LM317/
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> yea, 240/680.
[16:17] <[Ex0r]> yep thats the one I was using
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> why not use its 5v supply directly?
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> Measure the 5V
[16:18] <[Ex0r]> gordonDrogon- I wanted to, but I was worried that if the psu spiked it could shoot down the 5v line directly into the pi
[16:19] <[Ex0r]> although, doesnt the pi have input protection ?
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[16:19] <SpeedEvil> [Ex0r]: Basically not really
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> The input protection is not adequate to protect the Pi under most fault conditions
[16:20] <[Ex0r]> well i figured with a controller regulator, it would pop that before the pi got damaged, thats why i wanted to use it, but if its not possible for the psu to spike more than 5v to the pi i will just tie into the pie directly
[16:20] <[Ex0r]> controlled*
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> is this a PC PSU?
[16:21] <[Ex0r]> sort of
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> well it ought to be regulated.
[16:21] <[Ex0r]> its an old xbox psu, which is a smaller pc
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> ok
[16:21] <[Ex0r]> its got the standard atx pinout
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> I use these for regulators: http://uk.farnell.com/xp-power/sr10s05/switching-regulator-5v-1a-o-p/dp/1861095?Ntt=sr10s05
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> not cheap compared to a 7805, but very good.
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> and they're SMPS so don't get hot.
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[16:22] <[Ex0r]> I was just thinking, the molex connected to a standard hdd, so the regulation has to be on the psu not the original motherboard
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> exactly.
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> stick a meter on it and it's 5v +/-0.25 then go for it.
[16:23] <[Ex0r]> well i was thinking at first since the psu is so small, that the regulation must be on the board
[16:23] <[Ex0r]> but the psu powers the disc drive and hdd directly so its gotta be on the board
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> if it has a standard 4-pin drive power connector then it will be regulated.
[16:24] <gordonDrogon> HDDs don't have on-board regulators for the 5v (although they might run at 3.3v these days)
[16:25] <[Ex0r]> nah, its an original xbox, so its like 11 years old
[16:25] <gordonDrogon> I probably wouldn't think twice about using the 5v out of a PC PSU.
[16:25] <gordonDrogon> I might stick my multimeter on it just to check, but ...
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[16:26] <[Ex0r]> yeah, doing it now
[16:26] <[Ex0r]> gotta remember which wire is the power on wire
[16:26] <[Ex0r]> on the psu
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[16:33] <[Ex0r]> hmm this one might not work :(
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[16:35] <pksato> [Ex0r]: xbox psu dont need to power up fisrt?
[16:36] <pksato> first.
[16:36] <oldtopman> [Ex0r]: Power on wire is green, sort of towards the middle of the ATX connector.
[16:36] <oldtopman> s/green/traditionally green
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[16:37] <whuffor> Cool! Now I'm ssh'ing into my Pi from my macbook pro. Nice!
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[16:39] <[Ex0r]> its at 5.28 volts
[16:39] <[Ex0r]> between 5.28 and 4.7
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[16:40] <[Ex0r]> so yeah, I should be able to use it
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[16:43] <liamknight1993> Hello everyone, this is my first time here. I came to let you all know about a project I am doing with my work. It is basically a tablet with the brains of the Raspberry Pi, you can find the kickstarter page located here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/565954274/pi-tab and you can also find out more information about the company G2G Communities CIC (Good to Great) at our website
[16:43] <liamknight1993> http://g2gcommunities.org if you have any questions please feel free to ask me here or on the RPi forum here http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=76071
[16:44] <[Ex0r]> gordonDrogon- Would you like to see a video of what ive done so far to my project that youve helped me immensely with ?
[16:45] <gordonDrogon> [Ex0r], if you have something on youtube...
[16:45] <[Ex0r]> yeah
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[16:46] <[Ex0r]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsjG0fDC-jI
[16:47] <gordonDrogon> vertical video :)
[16:47] <[Ex0r]> it wasnt that way when i recorded it or on my phone
[16:47] <[Ex0r]> youtube did that for some reason
[16:47] <liamknight1993> Thanks for those who read my post, I have to leave now as I have finished work but will be back here later. If anyone has any advice or feedback it is much apreciated.
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[16:47] <gordonDrogon> open case power supply - eek - I zapped myself on one of those recently.
[16:47] <[Ex0r]> well its not meant to be open :)
[16:48] <[Ex0r]> the system, that is
[16:48] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], you put a lot of faith in junk mail.
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[16:48] <[Ex0r]> but I was grabbing my multimeter and dropped the probes onto the post and almost burned up my multimeter :(
[16:48] <[Ex0r]> whys that, shiftplusone ?
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[16:49] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], because that's all that separates your pi from a sheet of metal.
[16:49] <[Ex0r]> oh, lol
[16:49] <shiftplusone> solder joints are quite sharp
[16:49] <[Ex0r]> no, theres a piece of foam between the paper halves
[16:49] <shiftplusone> ah, good
[16:49] <[Ex0r]> just cant see it
[16:49] <[Ex0r]> and its not staying like that
[16:49] <gordonDrogon> looks like a good project though.
[16:49] <[Ex0r]> i just dont have the custom foam fit to the bottom of the case though
[16:50] <[Ex0r]> but, if you look at the bottom of the pi, there are feet on it anyways that are higher than the solder joints
[16:50] <shiftplusone> Are all of those wires doing something or are they just there to impress people?
[16:50] <[Ex0r]> what wires ?
[16:50] <[Ex0r]> the red/white black/white ?
[16:50] <oldtopman> shiftplusone: Impressing people is half the fun!
[16:50] <[Ex0r]> those are the ones connected to the gpio pins
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> and now liamknight1993 has gone - didn't hang round very long. Composite video out to a 7" display - why - when Pi Hdmi board will be ready soon...
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[16:50] <shiftplusone> I've only skimmed through the video and I see a ball of wires
[16:50] <[Ex0r]> some of them are from the atx psu
[16:51] <[Ex0r]> some are for the molex, and the bunch is from the front panel going to the gpio pins
[16:51] <shiftplusone> excellent.... looks like you know what you're doing and it's going to turn out well.
[16:51] <[Ex0r]> once i get it all finished up and its ready to be closed, im gonna clean them up
[16:51] <[Ex0r]> do you know by any chance, if its possible at the 'splash screen' to run scripts ?
[16:51] <shiftplusone> of course
[16:52] <[Ex0r]> Im running in rc.local, but thats after the kernel boots up, trying to see if I can tie in sooner so the leds come on sooner
[16:52] <shiftplusone> but it depends on how they do the splash screen
[16:52] <[Ex0r]> its like a 40 second wait between power on to leds on
[16:52] <shiftplusone> You'll want to write an init script
[16:52] <pksato> have some kernel patch and init to splash screens on boot time.
[16:53] <shiftplusone> Aye, you'll want something like plymouth for the splash screen
[16:53] <shiftplusone> and all of the init scripts will just run in the background while that's displaying
[16:54] <shiftplusone> and you write your own init for the LEDs
[16:54] <[Ex0r]> how does raspbmc do theirs? It shows just a red r until xbmc loads up, no bootup text showing
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[16:55] <shiftplusone> they use plymouth lite
[16:55] <pksato> if only want to hide boot txt, disable or redirect console.
[16:55] <[Ex0r]> looks like it requires a special kernel
[16:56] <[Ex0r]> pksato- well i dont want to hide it as much as i want to init faster so my gpio pins trigger quicker
[16:56] <[Ex0r]> right now, the scripts run on rc.local which doesnt run til the kernel is booted completely up. It's like 35-40 seconds. I'd like to get it as soon as I can, if possible.
[16:56] <[Ex0r]> like as soon as the kernel starts booting
[16:56] <pksato> splash dont make more faster, only hide messages and show fancy picture.
[16:56] <[Ex0r]> but, I think it needs to be loaded before it can access gpio
[16:57] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], I told you, you need to write an init script
[16:57] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- I know, i'm looking at it right now
[16:57] <shiftplusone> for the LEDs to come up sooner
[16:57] <shiftplusone> https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
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[16:57] <pksato> need to put you init script soon possible. rc.local is last to run.
[16:58] <[Ex0r]> so if I just make a shell script and put it in init.d it should pull up faster, no ?
[16:58] <shiftplusone> I recommend stealing an existing (simple) init script from /etc/init.d and working from there
[16:58] <pksato> no.
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[16:59] <pksato> need to put special script on /etc/init.d/ and configire it to load at boot time.
[17:00] <shiftplusone> This looks like it's worth a read. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch03.en.html
[17:00] <pksato> copy and edit /etc/init.d/skeleton to make a init script (on debian like)
[17:00] <shiftplusone> It's not all applicable, most of it isn't, but it's good to know what what you're doing
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[17:01] <shiftplusone> Ignore the part about bootloaders, the pi doesn't work the way they describe
[17:01] <pksato> or, write a kernel module.
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[17:02] <shiftplusone> oh and ignore stage 3, it's not used by default on raspbian. Read on from stage 4.
[17:02] <[Ex0r]> k
[17:02] <[Ex0r]> thanks
[17:03] <shiftplusone> plymouth patches used by raspbmc http://svn.stmlabs.com/listing.php?repname=raspbmc&path=%2Fpatches%2Fplymouth-lite-0.6.0%2F&#afda8f4c30d44a2b549c1356bbff4d48c
[17:03] <shiftplusone> I suggest taking plymouth from openelec though
[17:03] <shiftplusone> openelec's build process is much more open and clearer.
[17:03] <[Ex0r]> i wouldnt even know how to build retropie from scratch to use anything. I got it in an sd image
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[17:04] <shiftplusone> then learn, fix it and submit the patches =D
[17:05] <[Ex0r]> lol
[17:05] <shiftplusone> So no retropie user has to see the boot messages again
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[17:06] <[Ex0r]> I meant, i wouldnt know how to use plymouth in raspbmc
[17:06] <[Ex0r]> installing raspbmc and installing retropie I could do, just not sure how to edit the rest of that stuff
[17:06] <shiftplusone> ah
[17:07] <[Ex0r]> although, raspbmc is raspbian with its own custom stuff, and it uses plymouth so it seems possible to do it
[17:07] <shiftplusone> of course
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[17:07] <[Ex0r]> I just have no idea how to
[17:07] <shiftplusone> How to just change the image that comes up?
[17:08] <[Ex0r]> no, i know how to do that
[17:08] <shiftplusone> then what don't you know how to do?
[17:08] <[Ex0r]> how to get plymouth working so it goes over the boot stuff
[17:08] <[Ex0r]> and all that jazz
[17:08] <shiftplusone> doesn't it do that already?
[17:08] <shiftplusone> (it does, that's the whole point)
[17:08] <[Ex0r]> no, it shows bootup than goes to the splash screen
[17:08] <shiftplusone> oh >=/
[17:09] <shiftplusone> how far into the boot proccess does the splash come up?
[17:09] <shiftplusone> at the init scripts or earlier?
[17:09] <[Ex0r]> watch the video, you'll see it
[17:09] <[Ex0r]> not sure exactly where
[17:09] <sraue> plymouth-lite is a very stripped down plymouth, basically all stuff is ripped except showing a png in framebuffer. it was originally done for Moblin/Meego and was included in OpenELEC before Raspbmc used the stuff from OpenELEC
[17:09] <[Ex0r]> at about 14 seconds it starts, shiftplusone
[17:09] <shiftplusone> sraue, how early can it come up?
[17:10] <[Ex0r]> in raspbmc, it comes up instantly
[17:10] <[Ex0r]> no bootup text at all
[17:10] <[Ex0r]> it just shows a black screen with a red R in the middle
[17:10] <sraue> shiftplusone, depends how early you start this, you need a framebuffer console for this, we (OpenELEC) does this in initramfs
[17:10] <sraue> raspbmac shows still the kernel logos before
[17:10] <[Ex0r]> no it doesnt
[17:11] <sraue> sure, the small R in upper left
[17:11] <[Ex0r]> it doesnt for me anyways
[17:11] <[Ex0r]> I can deal with that
[17:11] <[Ex0r]> It doesn't show text
[17:11] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], we seem to be having two different conversations here. You said you don't know how to get plymouth to cover things in raspbmc, then you said it already does and then you said it doesn't and now I am confused. IF it already does, what's the problem?
[17:12] <shiftplusone> and you can disable the text by modifying cmdline.txt
[17:12] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- I dont know how to get it to do it in RASPBIAN
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[17:12] <[Ex0r]> raspbmc is based on raspbian, but it does it, so I know its possible, but I personally dont know how to
[17:12] <shiftplusone> ah, you've been saying raspbmc
[17:12] <shiftplusone> well then, I am glad we've cleared that up
[17:12] <[Ex0r]> raspbmc is the raspbian xbmc release
[17:13] <sraue> exor you must include plymouth-lite in raspbian and start early as possible, plymouth-lite is not part of raspbian
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[17:13] <[Ex0r]> sraue- I know, is it just a package you install and it does it automatically ?
[17:13] <shiftplusone> but I wouldn't say "raspbmc is the raspbian xbmc release"
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[17:13] <sraue> you must compile and use the patches
[17:13] <shiftplusone> raspbmc is an xbmc distro based on raspbian. I wouldn't take it further than that.
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[17:14] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], I want to get splash screens working and write a guide for others, so we'll get there, don't worry.
[17:15] <[Ex0r]> lol
[17:15] <sraue> https://github.com/OpenELEC/OpenELEC.tv/tree/master/packages/tools/plymouth-lite/patches <-- patches you need, http://sources.openelec.tv/devel/plymouth-lite-0.6.0.tar.bz2 the original sources
[17:16] <[Ex0r]> im trying to see if I could just install raspbian, install plymouth-lite and patch/configure it, than get retropie installed
[17:16] <[Ex0r]> than make an image of it, or if there's more stuff involved
[17:17] <sraue> you must compile, and create any init/start scripts manually like you want... and its a simple stupid "png viewer" for framebuffer consoles
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[17:17] <[Ex0r]> how do you make it overlay over all the bootup stuff ?
[17:17] <sraue> you could have this even simpler if you cat a raw image to the framebuffer
[17:18] <shiftplusone> I am going to see if I can sneak it into inittab instead of initramfs to get it to show up as early as possible
[17:18] <sraue> you must hide your textoutput, textoutput will be showed over the splash otherwise
[17:19] <shiftplusone> or I suppose I could roll a very basic initramfs which just runs plymouth and then continues with normal boot
[17:20] <sraue> http://thumbnails102.imagebam.com/25933/f51a75259324123.jpg <-- this is the splash with a openelec versions string on top, which is the only textoutput in this case
[17:20] <[Ex0r]> anyway, for the time being id be happy with just getting the leds to come on sooner
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[17:25] <shiftplusone> sraue, do you think something like "ply:1:boot:/usr/local/bin/plymouthg whateverparametersittakes" in inittab is a good way to get it going early without an initramfs?
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[17:28] <sraue> shiftplusone, not sure, if this runs a command early then yes
[17:29] <sraue> cat /dev/fb0 > screen.raw
[17:29] <sraue> cat screen.raw > /dev/fb0
[17:29] <sraue> ^^^ more simple :-)
[17:29] <sraue> but creates a really big splash image
[17:29] <shiftplusone> thanks, will give it a go when I get to it
[17:30] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- If you figure something out within the next few days, let me know please.
[17:30] <[Ex0r]> I'll still be working on this project
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[17:30] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], I'll fiddle a little bit while I wait for stuff to compile, so I might have it working for you today.
[17:31] <[Ex0r]> oh wow, ha
[17:31] <[Ex0r]> would it work with an existing setup ?
[17:31] <shiftplusone> yeah
[17:31] <shiftplusone> I suspect it will take a few minor changes to inittab and cmdline.txt
[17:32] <sraue> shiftplusone, to hide any bootoutput maybe "chvt <console>; ply-image splash.png"
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[17:32] <sraue> in OpenELEC we run on active console to show our versionsinfo and update output
[17:32] <shiftplusone> not bad
[17:35] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- wow, if you can get that working, that would be awesome.
[17:35] <shiftplusone> k, just clearing some space for the lapdock... the table is a mess
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[17:52] <Jeebiss> Could someone take a quick look at this and tell me what "self" refers to?
[17:52] <Jeebiss> http://examples.oreilly.com/9780596809577/CH09/PID.py
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[17:53] <[Ex0r]> Jeebiss- self is referring to itself (the object)
[17:54] <shiftplusone> the particular instance of self
[17:54] <shortest_path> self is a reference to the instantiated object calling the method. it's the standard name used for that purpose for OOP in python
[17:54] <Jeebiss> Hmmm, the function that I would call to use it, uses itself as a param?
[17:54] <Jeebiss> def GenOut(self, error):
[17:54] <Jeebiss> Is that common?
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[17:56] <shiftplusone> now then... to compile plymouth lite
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[18:08] <Jeebiss> If I create a class in a seperate file, and i want to create an instance of it, I use the import command right?
[18:08] <Jeebiss> (in python)
[18:08] <Jeebiss> import filename.py as whatever?
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[18:15] <[Ex0r]> import is the equivalent of include
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[18:29] <Jeebiss> [Ex0r]: I am using from PID import PID, and I get this error
[18:29] <Jeebiss> http://pastebin.com/kMyhtcWG
[18:29] <Jeebiss> I put that class into a file called PID.py
[18:29] <Jeebiss> in the same directory as my main calss.
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[18:41] <whuffor> This is impressive. I bought a RaspPi earlier this afternoon. I put it into a box, put that NOOBS image on the sd card, connected a screen and keyboard and everything installed without a hitch.
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[18:42] <whuffor> Now I have tmux and an irc client that I ssh into from any machine. Almost too easy :)
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[18:49] <gordonDrogon> whuffor, which OS did you go for?
[18:50] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], progress....
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[18:50] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], got the splash showing up very early... now just need to get rid of the text and we're set.
[18:50] <whuffor> gordonDrogon I went for raspbian. It said (recommended) so it has to be good. :)
[18:51] <whuffor> And I've only installed 2 apps so it doesn't matter much which distro I go for right now.
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[18:55] <gordonDrogon> whuffor, yea, it's good :)
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> its the most popular anyway.
[18:56] <whuffor> Mmm. I think it will be fine
[18:56] <gordonDrogon> and if you're used debian before it'll be familiar.
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[18:56] <whuffor> I've used Debian occasionally, mostly setting it up for other people, but I figured out apt-get enough to type: apt-get install tmux weechat
[18:57] <whuffor> Also did an apt-get update first, just to be sure
[18:57] <gordonDrogon> it's a good iea to do a apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade at some point too (via sudo)
[18:57] <gordonDrogon> ok :)
[18:57] <Jeebiss> Can I bother someone for some python help, I am stumped
[18:57] <whuffor> yeah. sudo was setup from the start.
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> Jeebiss, just ask - someone might be able to help (not me, I program in BASIC not Python)
[18:58] <Jeebiss> I need to import this, http://examples.oreilly.com/9780596809577/CH09/PID.py into my python apps
[18:58] <Jeebiss> app*
[18:59] <Jeebiss> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/Zf9dYv0w4N0lOIr8Sy3c/
[18:59] <Jeebiss> Line 9 is my import statement
[18:59] <Jeebiss> All I did was take the original file, save it as PID.py and put it in the same directory as my main file
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[19:00] <Jeebiss> Everytime, I get this error, http://paste.pound-python.org/show/gtCxMNPN60bUS4all9eK/
[19:00] <Jeebiss> When running the main file
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[19:05] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], got a quiet boot going, but still have a flashing cursor in the top left corner.
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[19:12] <[Ex0r]> oh nice
[19:12] <[Ex0r]> what about the cursor and splash screen )
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[19:14] <shiftplusone> just polishing it off now. works fine.
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[19:19] <Jeebiss> bah, i give up for today, python has won once again!
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[19:22] <ShorTie> have you tried in #python maybe ??
[19:23] <[Ex0r]> wow that was quick
[19:24] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], well, let me know when you want to set it up
[19:24] <winlu> ShorTie: he has and i couldn't find a problem in his code at all /
[19:25] <[Ex0r]> i cant do it now but is it pretty straight forward?
[19:25] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], I think so.
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[19:27] <[Ex0r]> alright. will you be around in a couple hours ?
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[19:29] <shiftplusone> yeah
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[19:30] <[Ex0r]> awesome thank you
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[19:43] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], do you care if there is a line of text or a flashing cursor for a split second on boot or would you prefer black screen -> splash
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[19:57] <[Ex0r]> id prefer right to splash if possible
[19:57] <shiftplusone> possible, just a little uglier
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[20:03] <shiftplusone> k got a second of black screen, then splash. Can't do anything about the black screen without modifying the kernel.
[20:04] <[Ex0r]> k cool
[20:04] <[Ex0r]> what do i need to do
[20:04] <shiftplusone> ah, you're going to do it now?
[20:05] <[Ex0r]> no just wanted some basic detail
[20:05] <[Ex0r]> how long does it take
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[20:06] <shiftplusone> a minute?
[20:06] <[Ex0r]> oh
[20:06] <[Ex0r]> i could do that
[20:06] <[Ex0r]> but how will it effect my current setup
[20:07] <shiftplusone> I don't know your current set up, but the only ugly thing it does is use tty2 instead of tty1 for boot messages.
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[20:10] <[Ex0r]> oh, it shouldnt hurt it then
[20:10] <[Ex0r]> if it does ill just reinstall nobiggie
[20:10] <[Ex0r]> okay, what do i need to do
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[20:10] <shiftplusone> sec, let me upload ply-image and attach a rootkit to it, so that you don't have to compile it yourself.
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[20:10] <[Ex0r]> rootkit!?
[20:11] <shiftplusone> did I say that out loud?
[20:11] <[Ex0r]> lol
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[20:12] <[Ex0r]> you havent steered me wrong to this point so ill trust you
[20:12] <shiftplusone> brb
[20:13] <shiftplusone> k
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[20:13] <shiftplusone> save https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/ply-image to /usr/local/bin
[20:13] <shiftplusone> then chmod +x it
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[20:14] <[Ex0r]> downloading
[20:15] <[Ex0r]> k
[20:15] <shiftplusone> k, while you do that, add " quiet logo.nologo loglevel=2 vt.global_cursor_default=0" to cmdline.txt
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[20:16] <[Ex0r]> with the " ?
[20:17] <[Ex0r]> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait
[20:17] <[Ex0r]> thats all thats in there now
[20:17] <shiftplusone> without the "
[20:17] <[Ex0r]> k thats added
[20:18] <[Ex0r]> and its done downloading btw
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[20:18] <shiftplusone> k now create /usr/local/bin/splash.sh
[20:18] <shiftplusone> actually, don't, you don't need it.
[20:18] <shiftplusone> open /etc/inittab
[20:19] <shiftplusone> add this right before si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS
[20:19] <shiftplusone> ply::sysinit:/usr/local/bin/ply-image /home/pi/splash.png
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[20:19] <[Ex0r]> k
[20:20] <shiftplusone> ah forgot... in cmdline.txt, change console=tty1 to console=tty2
[20:20] <[Ex0r]> for the original one ?
[20:20] <shiftplusone> yes
[20:20] <[Ex0r]> k
[20:20] <shiftplusone> then paste your cmdline.txt so I can check
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[20:21] <shiftplusone> place your splash image to /usr/local/bin/ply-image /home/pi/splash.png
[20:21] <[Ex0r]> http://pastebin.com/vNhz8hyk
[20:21] <[Ex0r]> wait what ?
[20:21] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], it should all be one line, not 2
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[20:22] <shiftplusone> sorry, I meant place your splash image to /home/pi/splash.png
[20:22] <shiftplusone> mispaste
[20:22] <[Ex0r]> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait quiet logo.nologo loglevel=2 vt.global_cursor_default=0
[20:22] <[Ex0r]> like that ?
[20:22] <shiftplusone> yes
[20:22] <[Ex0r]> k
[20:22] <shiftplusone> that's it... there's one more thing I need to iron
[20:23] <[Ex0r]> what was your instruction about py-image and /splash.png ?
[20:23] <shiftplusone> when you reboot, you should see the splash... but your console will not show a flashing _
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[20:23] <shiftplusone> take your splash image and save it as /home/pi/splash.png
[20:23] <[Ex0r]> i need to find which one retropie uses
[20:23] <shiftplusone> just use whatever, we're just testing for now
[20:23] <[Ex0r]> ok
[20:24] <shiftplusone> there should be a png in your home directory which you can use
[20:24] <shiftplusone> just copy that
[20:25] <shiftplusone> well, that's it. I'll let you know when I fix the missing cursor issue
[20:25] <[Ex0r]> no theres not one in there, i can make one though. Will it stretch to fit ?
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[20:25] <shiftplusone> I don't know what ply-image's behaviour is.
[20:26] <Talez> hey, i plugged in a USB-fan into my PI and it works. however, i want to write a script that turns the fan off/on every few minutes, but i can't find the fan with lsub. does anyone know how to find it? or knows general usb/devices tutorials for linux-beginners?
[20:26] <[Ex0r]> k, hold on asec
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> Talez, it's be a simple power device.
[20:26] <[Ex0r]> found a splash to use
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> Talez, ie. no control at all.
[20:26] <shiftplusone> Talez, it's not controllable
[20:27] <gordonDrogon> Talez, however if you can do without Ethernet, keyboard, mouse, and all other USB then you can turn all USB power off.
[20:27] <[Ex0r]> alright, lets check this
[20:27] <shiftplusone> >.>
[20:27] <shiftplusone> good luck
[20:27] * shiftplusone hides
[20:27] <Talez> ahh okay thanks
[20:27] <Talez> sad to hear :/
[20:28] <[Ex0r]> hopefully it didnt break, ha
[20:28] <Talez> wouldn't it be possible to just turn all USB's off? can live without them, but ethernet is a must have :/
[20:28] <[Ex0r]> oh nice, the splash screen comes up :)
[20:28] <[Ex0r]> followed by the retropie one while its loading
[20:29] <[Ex0r]> that black screen is literally like .5 seconds long
[20:29] <[Ex0r]> hmm somethings wrong
[20:29] <shiftplusone> what's the something?
[20:29] <[Ex0r]> its just sitting at the retropie splash screen now
[20:30] <shiftplusone> K, I'll take a look at what retropie does
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[20:31] <[Ex0r]> i cant see any text so i cant see why its failing
[20:31] <gordonDrogon> Talez, yes - hang on I'll lookup the rune.
[20:31] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], try ctrl+alt+f2
[20:31] <[Ex0r]> its just sitting at a blinking cursor
[20:32] <[Ex0r]> hmm, weird
[20:32] <shiftplusone> k then I need to investigate retropie
[20:32] <[Ex0r]> I can alt + f4 to get it to log in, and as soon as I do it takes me into emulationstation like it should after the splash screen
[20:33] <shiftplusone> their splash screen script is not exactly complicated https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup/blob/master/supplementary/asplashscreen/asplashscreen
[20:33] <[Ex0r]> I know, something is broken somewhere during bootup
[20:33] <[Ex0r]> thats causing it to hang at the splash screen
[20:34] <Talez> gordonDrogon thank you :)
[20:35] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], would you like to undo the changes or try to figure out what's going on?
[20:35] <[Ex0r]> cause ctrl+alt+f2 clears the retropie splash screen, taking me to a blinking cursor like its waiting for something (Probably automatic user login)
[20:35] <[Ex0r]> im not using it right now, i'd like to figure out whats up
[20:35] <shiftplusone> excellent
[20:36] <[Ex0r]> but, I have to leave for a bit in 35 mins to get my son from school
[20:36] <shiftplusone> np
[20:37] <[Ex0r]> do you understand whats happening ? It loads up my splash screen, than blinks a black screen for a second and loads up retropies splash, than sits there. If I ctrl + alt + f2 it goes to a blinking cursor like its waiting on something. If I press alt + f4 it takes me to a login prompt, and if I login, it loads up emulationstation (Normally it would sit on the splash screen for a second,
[20:37] <[Ex0r]> than load up emulation station)
[20:38] <shiftplusone> I understand the symptoms, but not what's causing them
[20:38] <[Ex0r]> oh
[20:38] <shiftplusone> because I don't know retropie's internals yet
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[20:38] <[Ex0r]> well, if you need to check out how it works installed, I will give you ssh access to my pi
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[20:39] <shiftplusone> Just digging around retropie source first
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[20:39] <shiftplusone> so that I know what to look for
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[20:40] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], this will break the new splash, but let's try undoing the cmdline.txt changes.
[20:41] <shiftplusone> change it to console=tty1 and remove from 'quiet' onwards.
[20:41] <[Ex0r]> It would be awesome if you could figure out how to disable retropies splash all together, or make it so theres no pause between the two loading
[20:41] <shiftplusone> from what I can see, the retropie setup script has the option to disable their splash
[20:41] <[Ex0r]> okay
[20:41] <[Ex0r]> yes, it does
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[20:42] <[Ex0r]> but I think that it still pauses at a black screen for a second
[20:42] <[Ex0r]> alright, I reverted the changes in cmdline.txt
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[20:42] <shiftplusone> keep inittab as is and reboot
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[20:43] <[Ex0r]> their splash screen covers up the text
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[20:43] <[Ex0r]> with it disabled, mine is in the background with the text overlaying on it
[20:43] <shiftplusone> disable their splash using their config tool
[20:44] <[Ex0r]> i did
[20:44] <shiftplusone> does it boot fully?
[20:44] <[Ex0r]> and it boots up
[20:44] <[Ex0r]> yes, but it shows all the boot text overtop of my splash screen, baha
[20:44] <[Ex0r]> looks messed up
[20:44] <shiftplusone> so... to try to isolate the issue, change it to console=tty2
[20:44] <Talez> gordonDrogon: did you find anything useful? if not, don't worry. don't wanna cause too much work for someone else :)
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[20:46] <shiftplusone> Talez, what gordon suggested won't work.
[20:46] <[Ex0r]> An error came up about volume not being unmounted correctly, but it booted up
[20:46] <[Ex0r]> and it still shows my splash for a second, than it gets messed up and shows bootup text overtop
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[20:47] <Talez> as far as i've read so far, if i try to turn off the usb's i will, in any case, also disable the mini-usb the pi needs for power supply
[20:47] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], from here, I would restore each of the cmdline.txt options one by one until it breaks.
[20:47] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], I actually suspect it won't break, but let's see.
[20:48] <[Ex0r]> I just added in quiet
[20:48] <shiftplusone> Talez, no. 1) Ethernet IS USB in this case, so if that's a must, you're out of luck. 2) It will not disable the 5v line at all, so the fan WILL keep running anyway.
[20:48] <[Ex0r]> and rebooting
[20:48] <[Ex0r]> theres a blinking cursor in the middle of the splash screen
[20:49] <[Ex0r]> but it booted up
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> Talez, hang on - got distracted here.
[20:49] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], add vt.global_cursor_default=0
[20:49] <Talez> well i guess my flatmates have to live with a 24/7 blinking usb fan in the hallway then lol
[20:49] <[Ex0r]> just added in logo.nologo to see if that works, hold on
[20:50] <[Ex0r]> it boots up, but it shows the prompt over the splash it shows when you log in
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[20:50] <gordonDrogon> Talez, ah - yes - shiftplusone is righ - I'm confusing myself. you can turn off the usb hub/ethernet chip on the Pi, but USB power to external things is hardwired. sorry. not thinking straight here tonight!
[20:51] <Talez> don't worry, thanks very much for trying though :)
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> Talez, gpio port, one transistor and a resistor and off you go though...
[20:51] <Talez> love to see that both the raspberry and the IRC community are so alive and helpfull :)
[20:51] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], what should happen after the splash?
[20:51] <shiftplusone> what do you want to happen, rather
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[20:52] <[Ex0r]> after the splash, it should go right into emulation station normally
[20:52] <[Ex0r]> like it just did
[20:52] <[Ex0r]> with loglevel=2 enabled
[20:52] <shiftplusone> ah, so what are the remaining problems?
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[20:52] <[Ex0r]> nothing I added them all back
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[20:53] <shiftplusone> so... that's it then?
[20:53] <Talez> will try that one day gordonDrogon, but it's not a big problem so far. just thought it might be possible to write a simple batch script to learn some batch in general. GPIO is still a bit off :D
[20:53] <[Ex0r]> wait nope
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[20:53] <[Ex0r]> its still showing the login prompt over the splash screen
[20:53] <[Ex0r]> Linux raspberrypi 3.10.25+ #622 PREEMPT Fri Jan 3 18:41:00 GMT 2014 armv6l
[20:53] <[Ex0r]> The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
[20:53] <[Ex0r]> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
[20:53] <[Ex0r]> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
[20:53] <[Ex0r]> Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
[20:53] <[Ex0r]> permitted by applicable law.
[20:53] <[Ex0r]> Last login: Wed Apr 30 18:53:05 2014
[20:53] <[Ex0r]> that message
[20:53] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], in inittab, comment out the getty line with tty1 in it
[20:54] <shiftplusone> wait, don't
[20:54] <shiftplusone> does it autologin?
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> Talez, you can control the gpio via a shell (batch) script - you have to build the hardware first :)
[20:54] <[Ex0r]> yes
[20:54] <shiftplusone> can you pastebin your full inittab
[20:54] <[Ex0r]> i dont know how to copy all of it
[20:55] <[Ex0r]> and pastebinit doesnt work anymore
[20:55] <shiftplusone> apt-get install pastebinit
[20:55] <shiftplusone> oh
[20:55] <[Ex0r]> wait I know
[20:55] <[Ex0r]> I can ftp to it
[20:55] <Talez> i'm already a failure in software despide studying IT, i'll be starting to be a failure in hardware as well as soon as i gather more selfconfidence :D
[20:55] <shiftplusone> can I just ssh in then?
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[20:56] <shiftplusone> ah I found it
[20:56] <shiftplusone> in the retropie scripts
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[20:56] <[Ex0r]> you could, but i'd have to forward ports
[20:56] <[Ex0r]> http://pastebin.com/g1wfNP3c
[20:56] <[Ex0r]> thats mine
[20:57] <shiftplusone> k, now pastebin your /etc/profile
[20:58] <[Ex0r]> http://pastebin.com/4ve3NDBn
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[20:59] <[Ex0r]> hmm im gonna have to take off here in like 2 minutes
[20:59] <shiftplusone> try this as your inittab http://pastebin.com/2rqpFHWM
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[21:00] <shiftplusone> (told you this would only take a minute =P)
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[21:01] <[Ex0r]> reboot ?
[21:01] <shiftplusone> yeah
[21:01] <[Ex0r]> k lets see what it does
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[21:03] <[Ex0r]> that did it :)
[21:03] <[Ex0r]> hmm, brb i gotta go really fast.
[21:03] <bruxc> Hello, I'm new be gentle. I've come to the conclusion that SSH'ing into my Pi isn't going to be easy with Windows.
[21:03] <shiftplusone> great
[21:03] <[Ex0r]> ill be back in 30 mins or so
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[21:03] <bruxc> I've gone ahead and created a UBUNTU 14.04 OS in my Virtualbox... I'm currently trying to SSH into Pi and i'm a tad lost. I was hoping to get a little guidance?
[21:03] <shiftplusone> bruxc, very simple, try putty.
[21:03] <bruxc> shiftplusone: Tried putty, no dice.
[21:03] <shiftplusone> bruxc, what was wrong?
[21:04] <bruxc> IIRC, it had to do w/ not having a monitor so I couldn't get the IP address.
[21:04] <bruxc> I tried assigning statically but I was either doing something wrong or it didn't work. More than likely doing something wrong.
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[21:04] <shiftplusone> how would an ubuntu vm change that?
[21:04] <bruxc> Either way, the articles and advice I was given was to get on UBUNTU or linux then to seek more guidance.
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[21:04] <bruxc> No diea.
[21:04] <bruxc> idea*
[21:05] <bruxc> I'm flexible. If you're willing to help me figure out how to get into my Pi then that's cool.
[21:05] <shiftplusone> sure
[21:05] <bruxc> I'm on W8.1, I've got PuTTy.
[21:05] <shiftplusone> open up command prompt and try the following commands
[21:05] <bruxc> k.
[21:05] <shiftplusone> ping raspberry
[21:05] <shiftplusone> ping raspberrypi.local
[21:05] <shiftplusone> ping raspberrypi.home
[21:05] <shiftplusone> and see if any of those ping back
[21:05] <bruxc> Nope.
[21:05] <shiftplusone> sorry, that should've been ping raspberrypi
[21:06] <shiftplusone> do you have access to your router?
[21:06] <bruxc> Not at the moment, at work.
[21:06] <bruxc> When I did have access to the router, it didn't recognize it as a device.
[21:06] <bruxc> I currently have an OS on the flashdrive. OnionPi
[21:07] <shiftplusone> so this is more of network issue rather than an ssh issue
[21:07] <bruxc> Gotcha.
[21:07] <bruxc> Sorry, not trying to give bad information.
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[21:07] <shiftplusone> np, you don't have to be so careful here, this channel is for beginners.
[21:07] <bruxc> It's plugged into my laptop via ehternet cable.
[21:07] <bruxc> right on.
[21:08] <bruxc> I had it pointing to a static address I randomly assigned it but it did nothing of benefit.
[21:08] <bruxc> Other than successfully being able to ping it.
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[21:08] <shiftplusone> if you could ping it, that's definitely progress
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[21:08] <bruxc> I thought so, too.
[21:09] <shiftplusone> I would recommend using raspbian rather than onionpi until you get things working
[21:09] <bruxc> But then I was told statically assigning an IP to my lan adapter isn't the step in the right direction.
[21:09] <bruxc> Ok.
[21:09] <bruxc> I'll put raspian on it.
[21:09] <bruxc> one second.
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[21:10] <bruxc> currently imaging raspbian wheezy
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[21:15] <bruxc> shiftplusone: As soon as wheezy is imaged. all I'm able to really do is power on my pi and hope that I can get an IP
[21:15] <bruxc> I don't have a monitor handy.
[21:16] <shiftplusone> bruxc, if you enable internet sharing in windows, you should be able to hook it right up to your laptop
[21:16] <lomotac> won't you need a crossover able?
[21:16] <shiftplusone> nope
[21:17] <shiftplusone> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_Dependent_Interface#Auto_MDI-X
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[21:18] <lomotac> sweet
[21:18] <shiftplusone> "Auto MDI-X automatically detects the required cable connection type and configures the connection appropriately, removing the need for crossover cables to interconnect switches or connecting PCs peer-to-peer. As long as it is enabled on either end of a link, either type of cable can be used."
[21:18] <shiftplusone> that's a feature of any modern NIC, including the pi, so crossover cables are not necessary anymore.
[21:19] <bruxc> ICS is enabled and I tested it with my working XBMC.
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[21:20] <shiftplusone> shouldn't have any problems then, as long as you know how to get the IP given to the pi by windows
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[21:23] <shiftplusone> bruxc, any luck?
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[21:27] <bruxc> shiftplusone: back
[21:27] <bruxc> shiftplusone: installed raspbian wheezy, put it in the pi, ICS'd my wifi to my lan.
[21:27] <bruxc> lan's plugged into the pi
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[21:28] <shiftplusone> and no luck?
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[21:29] <bruxc> well,
[21:29] <bruxc> I kind of need to figure out how to get the ip address now.
[21:30] <shiftplusone> k, I'll google as well
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[21:31] <bruxc> after ICS'ing the LAN adapter to WiFi, it gave itself a static ip
[21:31] <bruxc> I tried PuTTy using the IP and no dice.
[21:31] <shiftplusone> what's the IP?
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[21:34] <bruxc> 192.168.137.1
[21:34] <shiftplusone> I don't think that's the pi's IP
[21:34] <bruxc> Me either.
[21:34] <shiftplusone> I think that's the windows box's IP from the perspective of the pi
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[21:35] <shiftplusone> I just asked in ##windows, but I am not holding my breath
[21:35] <shiftplusone> they're suggesting tcpview
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[21:36] <bruxc> Downloading.
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[21:37] <bruxc> Open and running. What should I be looking for?
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[21:38] <shiftplusone> an IP in the 192.168.137.* range
[21:38] <bruxc> Nada enchilada.
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[21:39] <shiftplusone> at this point, I would consider trying ping 192.168.1.2, then .3, then .4 ......
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[21:41] <shiftplusone> wrong range, but you get the idea (137 instead of 1)
[21:42] <shiftplusone> but really, there should be a way to find it out from the windows side... I am just not a windows user, so I don't know how.
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[21:43] <shiftplusone> bruxc, ....actually, does ping raspberrypi return anything now?
[21:43] <bruxc> Not in CMD
[21:43] <shiftplusone> damn
[21:44] <bruxc> I'm able to ping the 192.168.137.1 address.
[21:44] <bruxc> Not sure if that's because it's just a locally hosted IP from my WLAN.
[21:44] <shiftplusone> I think you're just pinging yourself there
[21:44] <bruxc> Me too. hehe.
[21:45] <shiftplusone> >.>... what about wireshark and sniffing dhcp requests over LAN?
[21:45] <shiftplusone> overdoing it just a little, but it will work
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[21:46] <pksato> use arp command to see devices on network.
[21:46] <bruxc> Did.
[21:47] <shiftplusone> and?
[21:47] <bruxc> in my UBUNTU Virtualbox, it only shows an eth0 10.0.2.2
[21:47] <bruxc> Which I believe is it's own IP address.
[21:47] <shiftplusone> forget virtualbox
[21:47] <bruxc> Mk.
[21:47] <bruxc> In cmd
[21:47] <shiftplusone> run it from cmd on windows
[21:47] <shiftplusone> arp -a
[21:48] <bruxc> I have quite of bit
[21:48] <shiftplusone> any 192.168.137.* ?
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[21:48] <bruxc> 255
[21:48] <bruxc> 192.168.137.255
[21:48] <shiftplusone> nope =/
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[21:49] <bruxc> That was the only other one.
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[21:49] <bruxc> The rest are 172 addresses which is what my WLAN is.
[21:49] <bruxc> and 224 addresses.
[21:49] <bruxc> 239 and a 255 as well, but I digress.
[21:49] <pksato> reboot rpi if it powered for more that 5min.
[21:50] <bruxc> k
[21:50] <bruxc> What command shall i run when it's plugged in? arp -a?
[21:50] <pksato> arp table cleaned after some time.
[21:50] * shiftplusone notes down the arp command as something useful to remember.
[21:50] <bruxc> K.
[21:50] <bruxc> Powered it back up.
[21:50] <bruxc> waiting 15 seconds,
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[21:52] <bruxc> no dice.
[21:53] <bruxc> Same IPs in tables.
[21:54] <ShorTie> arp -a in windows doesn't show my pi's
[21:54] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, because your pi isn't hooked up directly to your windows box, is it?
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[21:54] <shiftplusone> k... curiosity got the best of me... I am trying it myself.
[21:54] <ShorTie> no, they are on the network
[21:55] <shiftplusone> trying ICS now
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[21:55] <ShorTie> has he looked in 'ipconfig /all' to see what the eth0 ip address is
[21:56] <bruxc> Yes. I have.
[21:56] <bruxc> I'm on a Virtualbox so it's not as easy as loading it full OS. there may be adapters disabled.
[21:56] <bruxc> Causing it to not recognize the connection.
[21:56] <bruxc> I'm on a W8.1 laptop currently.
[21:56] <bruxc> so arp -a doesn't show anything but my wlan and a few other instances of wireless.
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[21:57] * ShorTie confused
[21:58] <ShorTie> virtualbox or win 8.1
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[22:00] <shiftplusone> nothing in ARP here either
[22:00] <shiftplusone> installing wireshark
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[22:01] <bruxc> ShorTie: Either or.
[22:01] <pksato> another way to find rpi is pinging broadcast addr, but need to enable replay on rpi.
[22:01] <pksato> ping -b 255.255.255.255
[22:01] <pksato> on linux
[22:03] <shiftplusone> bruxc, ok, got it.
[22:03] <pksato> echo 0 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts
[22:03] <shiftplusone> try ping 192.168.137.7
[22:04] <bruxc> pksato: Hanging.
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[22:04] <bruxc> shiftplusone: all ears, mon frere.
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[22:05] <shiftplusone> bruxc, I had no luck with ARP, but I did end up finding the pi's IP and used putty to connect to it over windows' ICS.
[22:05] <pksato> bruxc: set static ip at boot time, on cmdline.txt
[22:06] <shiftplusone> bruxc, The IP it gave the pi was 192.168.137.7, which will probably not be the IP you will get, but using wireshark does show the IP quite clearly.
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[22:06] <pksato> ICS have dhcp enabled?
[22:06] <shiftplusone> yes
[22:06] <pksato> or, have disabled it?
[22:07] <shiftplusone> I don't think you can disable it easily (might have to dig around regedit to do so)
[22:07] <pksato> bruxc: ICS or Bridge?
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[22:07] <ShorTie> you need dhcp, wlan and eth are gonna be different networks i believe
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[22:08] <bruxc> pksato: currently ICS
[22:09] <pksato> windows? version?
[22:09] <bruxc> W8.1 64bit
[22:09] <pksato> wifi and ethernet?
[22:09] <bruxc> When putting in ICS, it automatically assigned my lan adapter a static IP
[22:09] <bruxc> laptop on wifi
[22:10] <bruxc> pi connected into the laptop
[22:10] <bruxc> via ethernet cable
[22:10] <pksato> I have a win8.1 box at side... but not rpi.
[22:11] <shiftplusone> bruxc, wireshark is out of the question then?
[22:12] <ShorTie> ya, gateways normally are a static ip
[22:12] <bruxc> I mean. I have it already installed.
[22:12] <bruxc> Would it help.
[22:12] <bruxc> ?*
[22:12] <shiftplusone> bruxc, yeah, run it, select the lan interface, click start and reset the pi
[22:12] <shiftplusone> you will the the IP show up
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[22:13] <liamknight1993> Hello everyone
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[22:14] <shiftplusone> hi
[22:14] <ShorTie> not sure about that, i think it will just show the gateway address, not any thing further down the network
[22:14] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, re wireshark or am I crossing wires?
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[22:18] <ShorTie> wireshark is only gonna pick up the eth gateway address i believe, nothing hooked up on that network unless it might show up some where in the header
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[22:19] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, I can see all the traffic going from/to the pi, and I can definitely see the DHCP requests and reply going through
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[22:20] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, I've rebooted into windows, set up ICS, hooked up the pi directly to replicate bruxc's setup and am now connected to the pi through putty
[22:20] <shiftplusone> so I know it works
[22:20] <ShorTie> ok, i'll go back to my bmp180
[22:21] <shiftplusone> bruxc, still there? Try this.... ping raspberrypi.mshome.net and check c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts.ics
[22:21] <ShorTie> haven't really played with wire shark much
[22:21] <shiftplusone> it's quite educational =D
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[22:22] <shiftplusone> but yeah c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts.ics
[22:22] <shiftplusone> that definitely has the leases
[22:22] <pksato> ICS on win8.1 leased ip for xp box (192.168.137.43), but not get internet access.
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[22:24] <shiftplusone> pksato, does win8.1 have the hosts.ics file I mentioned?
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[22:25] <shiftplusone> I'm on windows 7, so it might be slightly different
[22:25] <pksato> yes, have.
[22:26] <shiftplusone> so at least the IP problem is solved, we can view the leases there without resorting to wireshark.
[22:26] <pksato> but, if have ip on hosts.ics, arp can show too.
[22:26] <shiftplusone> pksato, arp isn't showing it
[22:27] <shiftplusone> well, it is now, since I am ssh'ed to the pi, but it wasn't before
[22:27] <shiftplusone> not after it booted and leased the IP
[22:27] <pksato> I ran arp soon after XP done ip lease. and arp on 8.1 showed
[22:28] <shiftplusone> doesn't seem reliable then =(
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[22:32] <[Ex0r]> hmm
[22:32] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- thank you earlier for helping me get that stuff setup
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[22:33] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], is it at least working as you want it to?
[22:33] <[Ex0r]> for the most part, yes
[22:33] <bruxc> Sorry
[22:33] <bruxc> boss was talking.
[22:33] <[Ex0r]> I need to get the LEDs to turn on with the splash screen if possible, and fix the shutdown to stop showing text
[22:33] <[Ex0r]> but other than that yes
[22:33] <bruxc> shiftplusone: ping raspberrypi.mshome.net
[22:33] <bruxc> ping request could not find host
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[22:34] <shiftplusone> bruxc, doesn't matter, open up c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts.ics. If ICS worked and gave the IP, it wwill be there.
[22:34] <pksato> bruxc: ethernet link led is on, on rpi and notebook?
[22:34] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], that's doable.
[22:34] <[Ex0r]> which part? ha
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[22:35] <[Ex0r]> im assuming for the leds I just need to place a script in inittab above or near the splash screen, but for the shutdown text im not sure.
[22:35] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], in inittab, instead of launching ply-image directly, launch a script. That script can display the splash and do your gpio business.
[22:36] <[Ex0r]> can you run a .sh script in inittab ?
[22:36] <shiftplusone> yes
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[22:36] <bruxc> I see
[22:36] <bruxc> I see an IP
[22:36] <bruxc> :)
[22:37] <bruxc> >:| Why didn't it show me via CMD/TERMINAL >:-|
[22:37] <shiftplusone> bruxc, what is it and can you ping it?
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[22:37] <shiftplusone> bruxc, because windows, that's why.
[22:37] <bruxc> but but... linux wasn't working either :\
[22:37] <pksato> bruxc: and is not 192.168.137.1?
[22:37] <bruxc> Maybe that's because I was using a virtual instance.
[22:37] <bruxc> Correct.
[22:37] <bruxc> 137.58
[22:38] <shiftplusone> looks good
[22:38] <shiftplusone> putty it up
[22:38] <bruxc> Sigh
[22:38] <pksato> and, have a name?
[22:38] <bruxc> it does.
[22:38] <[Ex0r]> ply::sysinit::/home/pi/autostart.sh
[22:38] <bruxc> xbmc-a188.mshome.net
[22:38] <bruxc> I had xbmc on it at one time.
[22:38] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], that doesn't looks right to me.
[22:38] <Encrypt> Talking about auto-start...
[22:38] <bruxc> pksato: shiftplusone: Network Error: Conenction timed out.
[22:39] <Encrypt> I should do an "auto-reboot" script based on the logs
[22:39] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- ply::sysinit:/usr/local/bin/ply-image /home/pi/splash.png
[22:39] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], ply::sysinit:/home/pi/autostart.sh
[22:39] <Encrypt> Soon...
[22:39] <[Ex0r]> that wasw the original one
[22:39] <bruxc> Does wheezy have ssh auto start?
[22:39] <pksato> bruxc: try static boot time ip on rpi.
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[22:39] <[Ex0r]> oh i added one too many :
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[22:39] <shiftplusone> bruxc, raspbian has ssh on by default, yes.
[22:39] <bruxc> pksato: ELI5 what you mean?
[22:39] <bruxc> shiftplusone: thx just checking
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[22:41] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- do i need to add a & to the script so it will continue on ?
[22:42] <pksato> bruxc: power off rpi, get sd card, put on notebook, and edit cmdline.txt, append at end of line <space>ip=192.168.137.31
[22:42] <pksato> save, put sd no rpi and power...
[22:42] <bruxc> Does that hardcode an ip address for it?
[22:42] <[Ex0r]> http://pastebin.com/sH3wh3HN
[22:42] <[Ex0r]> like that
[22:42] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], no & needed.... I think.
[22:43] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], actually.... hmmm.... I don't know for sure anymore. The script doesn't exit by itself?
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[22:43] <[Ex0r]> no idea
[22:43] <[Ex0r]> havent tested it yet. didnt want to mess something up bad
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[22:43] <[Ex0r]> to where i couldnt recover it
[22:43] <[Ex0r]> if it didnt boot all the way
[22:43] <pksato> bruxc: and, before power rpi, start ping on windows, ping -t 192.168.137.31
[22:43] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], you can't use & anyway.
[22:44] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], so you need to modify the script
[22:44] <bruxc> pksato: I just added <space>etc to the end of the line
[22:44] <bruxc> is that fine?
[22:44] <shiftplusone> take out the wfi and shutdown lines.
[22:44] <pksato> bruxc: I think...
[22:44] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], and you certainly can't have the & at the end of the wfi line!
[22:44] <shiftplusone> >=/
[22:44] <bruxc> we'll find out soon enough
[22:45] <[Ex0r]> thats how it was already in the script
[22:45] <bruxc> i got activity. not the kind that looks good.
[22:45] <[Ex0r]> I just added the top two lines to the file
[22:45] <bruxc> pksato: it went from timed out to destination host unreachable.. Only did that once though
[22:45] <bruxc> twice.
[22:45] <pksato> wait... y
[22:45] <bruxc> It says the following
[22:45] <[Ex0r]> somebody yesterday, dont remember who, said that the & is so the script will run in the background
[22:45] <bruxc> Reply from 192.168.137.1: Destination host unreachable.
[22:45] <pksato> rpi to load kernel and set ip
[22:46] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], do you understand what wfi does?
[22:46] <[Ex0r]> yeah
[22:46] <[Ex0r]> waiting for interrupt
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[22:46] <[Ex0r]> it halts until an interrupt is given than continues
[22:46] <bruxc> LAN has a static IP should I switch to dynamic?
[22:46] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], what happens if you run it in the background?
[22:46] <pksato> bruxc: you configured correct interface as network on ICS?
[22:46] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- it works
[22:46] <bruxc> Ethernet.
[22:46] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], well it shouldn't.
[22:46] <[Ex0r]> if i dont run it with &, the system locks up because its waiting for the interupt
[22:47] <pksato> set ICS from wifi interface ?
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[22:47] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], don't say I didn't warn you then.
[22:47] <pksato> on my 8.1 box have a virtual tap interface, first I set it as network.
[22:47] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- Im just wondering why it was working like it was supposed to yesterday with it booting up properly and shutting down
[22:47] <[Ex0r]> but now i cant use it
[22:47] <bruxc> I've gotta get out of work here pretty soon.
[22:48] <bruxc> I will try at home. Any one of you be available in the next couple of hours? If not, no worries.
[22:48] <bruxc> This is where I must go though.
[22:48] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], if you run that from inittab, you're going to have a bad time.
[22:48] <[Ex0r]> I can keep that part out
[22:48] <[Ex0r]> and make that load at bootup like it was
[22:48] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], yeah, split autostart up into two scripts
[22:48] <[Ex0r]> as long as the leds being in there will work
[22:48] <pksato> Oh yes.. time to go to home on 12min.
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[22:49] <bruxc> pksato: hopefully I'll see you around.
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[22:50] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], however... if you're launching that autostart script from rc.local, you should have & in rc.local, and not in the script itself. what it SHOULD do the way you have it is run the wfi in the background and just shut down before the system boots fully.... which is bad.
[22:51] <[Ex0r]> yeah, just noticed that
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[22:51] <[Ex0r]> k, so ive got two scripts
[22:51] <[Ex0r]> one is autostart.sh, triggered on inittab, one is autostop.sh, which loads up in rc.local. Autostart.sh simply turns the leds on than triggers the splash screen
[22:52] <[Ex0r]> autostop waits for interrupt to shut down the system
[22:52] <shiftplusone> sounds good
[22:52] <shiftplusone> make sure you have +x on both of them
[22:52] <[Ex0r]> awesome
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[22:54] <pksato> kernel module and gpio http://gpio.kaltpost.de/?p=1699
[22:54] <[Ex0r]> autostart.sh already is from previously
[22:54] <[Ex0r]> k, now for me to find the stuff for shutdown
[22:55] <[Ex0r]> im gonna see if i can find it myself
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[22:59] <[Ex0r]> ok i give up
[22:59] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], what's up?
[23:00] <[Ex0r]> im looking at the shutdown process, trying to figure it out myself
[23:00] <[Ex0r]> see if I can make it silent
[23:00] <shiftplusone> ah, I don't know how you'd go about that either.
[23:01] <[Ex0r]> you may not be able to
[23:01] <[Ex0r]> doesnt look like it uses the same type of system
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[23:01] <shiftplusone> you should be able to chvt 12 before shutting down to do it quietly... I'll give it a go.
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[23:05] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], shutdown -h now; chvt 12;
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[23:06] <[Ex0r]> you my friend, are a mortal among men
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[23:06] <[Ex0r]> god among men*
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[23:07] <shiftplusone> heh... the mortal version was better >_<
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[23:08] <[Ex0r]> i think I really broke it now
[23:09] <shiftplusone> if you pastebin the relevant files, I can look over it
[23:11] <[Ex0r]> http://pastebin.com/F35yRKQx
[23:11] <[Ex0r]> it boots up
[23:11] <[Ex0r]> but the splash screen doesnt show anymore
[23:11] <[Ex0r]> and the leds dont turn on
[23:11] <shiftplusone> what's in autostart
[23:11] <[Ex0r]> its in the paste
[23:11] <[Ex0r]> look further down
[23:11] <shiftplusone> ah
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[23:12] <[Ex0r]> i just noticed one typo, but that wouldnt cause the rest to mess up
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[23:12] <[Ex0r]> and i found another one causing autostop to not work
[23:13] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], I recommend chvt 12; /sbin/shutdown -h now ; chvt12;
[23:13] <shiftplusone> much cleaner when X11 is running
[23:13] <[Ex0r]> i dont have x open
[23:13] <[Ex0r]> it all runs in framebuffer
[23:13] <shiftplusone> in case you decide to have it later, I guess.
[23:13] <[Ex0r]> oh, gotcha
[23:13] <[Ex0r]> yeah autostart.sh is acting up
[23:13] <shiftplusone> but yeah, I don't see anything that would break splash
[23:14] <[Ex0r]> because the leds arent even coming on
[23:14] <shiftplusone> oh
[23:14] <shiftplusone> but you noticed the py/ply typo, right?
[23:14] <[Ex0r]> no
[23:15] <shiftplusone> /usr/local/bin/py-image /home/pi/splash.png
[23:15] <shiftplusone> should be ply-image
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[23:15] <[Ex0r]> i think my copy/paste is broken, I copy pasted everything from the other scripts, and it seems to be leaving out characters
[23:15] <[Ex0r]> okay, splash screen is back but no led
[23:15] <[Ex0r]> maybe it cant access gpio til its loaded ?
[23:16] <shiftplusone> well, LED 16 line doesn't make sense... you just have the same command twice
[23:16] <[Ex0r]> that was the first typo
[23:16] <[Ex0r]> the second command should be write 16 1
[23:16] <[Ex0r]> i changed it
[23:16] <[Ex0r]> gordonDrogon- are you available ?
[23:16] <shiftplusone> one problem could be that /dev/ is not properly populated that early on, so wiringpi doesn't work.
[23:16] <[Ex0r]> thats what im wondering
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[23:17] <[Ex0r]> would using python work that early on ?
[23:17] <shiftplusone> forget python
[23:17] <[Ex0r]> lol well if its the only option
[23:17] <[Ex0r]> i dont really have a choice do I ? :)
[23:18] <shiftplusone> there are plenty of other options, I am just trying to decide which is best
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[23:19] <[Ex0r]> I really appreciate your help shiftplusone. Normally I wouldn't be asking so many questions and just diving into it, but I don't want to mess something up with stuff i'm not familiar with.
[23:20] <shiftplusone> option 1) create the /dev/mem node in the script manually. 2) tell wiringpi to use the /sys interface instead of /dev/mem 3) use the /sys interface yourself, rather than gpio.
[23:20] <shiftplusone> and 'course you're welcome.
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[23:20] <[Ex0r]> wouldnt option 1 cause issues when it actually tries creating it ?
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[23:21] <shiftplusone> shouldn't
[23:21] <shiftplusone> I am not even sure that the /dev/mem node is even the issue.
[23:21] <[Ex0r]> 'already loaded, ignore'
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[23:21] <[Ex0r]> if gordonDrogon were here, he would probably know straight away.
[23:22] <shiftplusone> sec, I'll get my splash script to dump the contents of /dev/
[23:23] <[Ex0r]> hehe, at least I got the shutdown script to turn the LEDs off right when you press the power button instead of waiting til shutdown was over and making the rpi do it :)
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[23:23] <[Ex0r]> im not a complete idiot, ha
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[23:24] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], the relevant /dev/ nodes are there.
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[23:24] <[Ex0r]> k, so than its something else ?
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[23:26] <shiftplusone> must be
[23:27] <shiftplusone> I don't have my pi set up for testing gpio right now
[23:27] <shiftplusone> so I'll leave it to Gordon.
[23:27] <shiftplusone> unless you want to try working with sysfs gpio
[23:27] <[Ex0r]> no idea what that is
[23:27] <ShorTie> might be able to dig into wiringPi and get the real bcm stuff
[23:27] <gordonDrogon> [Ex0r], I'm here, but not sure I know..
[23:28] <[Ex0r]> gordonDrogon- is GPIO accessible during boot ?
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> ShorTie, the 'real' bcm stuff uses /dev/mem
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> so you need the /dev/mem pseudo device active.
[23:28] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, no idea why the gpio tool wouldn't be able to do its things right after the kernel is loaded?
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> however I think the underlying static /dev/ has it anyway.
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[23:28] <shiftplusone> it does
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> are you using the absolute path: /usr/bin/gpio
[23:28] <shiftplusone> he is
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[23:28] <gordonDrogon> *oops: /usr/local/bin/gpio
[23:29] <[Ex0r]> yes, I am
[23:29] * gordonDrogon ponders
[23:29] <[Ex0r]> its executing the splash screen part of the script, so i know the script is initializing
[23:29] <gordonDrogon> at what point in the init chain are you running it?
[23:29] <[Ex0r]> let me past inittab
[23:29] <[Ex0r]> paste*
[23:30] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, it's the first thing init runs, before any init scripts.
[23:30] <gordonDrogon> ok
[23:30] <whuffor> I just discovered that Raspbian has a graphical desktop. :) Didn't see that before when I ran headless, but I've connected a monitor, keyboard and mouse now'
[23:30] <shiftplusone> so kernel >init > autostart.sh > init scripts.
[23:30] <[Ex0r]> yes gordonDrogon
[23:30] <[Ex0r]> ply::sysinit:/home/pi/autostart.sh
[23:30] <[Ex0r]> si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS
[23:31] <[Ex0r]> autostart.sh runs, as I have the splash screen stuff in there and that displays, so it's something with the gpio functions
[23:31] <gordonDrogon> right - let me just have a scan thorugh the source to see what it might also need.
[23:31] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], what's the bcm gpio number for the pin you're using?
[23:31] <gordonDrogon> can you set an environment variable: WIRINGPI_DEBUG before calling gpio? set it to anything - it just needs to exist.
[23:31] <[Ex0r]> the header # is 26 and 16
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[23:32] <[Ex0r]> not sure what the bcm # is
[23:32] <gordonDrogon> that will make it print some stuff - so you need to be able to see the console...
[23:32] <[Ex0r]> oh, the console is disabled, ha
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[23:32] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[23:32] <gordonDrogon> is /proc/ mounted? probably not - it needs /proc/cpuinfo to get the board rev.
[23:33] <shiftplusone> good call
[23:33] <shiftplusone> I recommend ditching wiringpi
[23:33] <[Ex0r]> it is at runtime
[23:33] <gordonDrogon> that's in wiringPi - you could hard-wire it in wiringPi and re-compile...
[23:33] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- So you think python is a better solution now? ha
[23:34] <gordonDrogon> is /sys/ mounted at init time? If so, you can "manually" poke stuff there via your bash script.
[23:34] <[Ex0r]> no idea
[23:35] <shiftplusone> if it is...
[23:35] <shiftplusone> http://pastie.org/9128918
[23:35] <shiftplusone> that should work, I think
[23:35] <ShorTie> isn't pin 26 spi ce1 and not a regular pin, or does that not matter at this point in time
[23:36] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, doesn't matter if the spi module isn't loaded. They're multifunctional.
[23:36] <shiftplusone> or rather, configurable.
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[23:36] <ShorTie> ok.
[23:36] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- where do I put that bit of info at ?
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[23:36] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], instead of your gpio lines.
[23:37] <shiftplusone> assuming I got the numbers right
[23:37] <[Ex0r]> pin 26 on header and pin 16 on header
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[23:37] <[Ex0r]> hopefully it doesnt fry my pi for having incorrect pins, ha
[23:37] <shiftplusone> >.>
[23:38] <[Ex0r]> lets test it out and see what happens
[23:38] <shiftplusone> if it does, ShorTie will owe you a new pi.
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[23:38] <shiftplusone> I don't know why ShorTie, but it's not me.
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[23:38] <[Ex0r]> hmm no sparks
[23:38] <[Ex0r]> but no led either
[23:38] <shiftplusone> I guess sys isn't mounted
[23:38] <shiftplusone> we can mount it in the script
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[23:39] <shiftplusone> try adding mount -t sysfs sysfs /sys before it
[23:39] <shiftplusone> hopefully it doesn't bork thing when it gets mounted later.... shouldn't.
[23:40] <ShorTie> pin 16 is bcm gpio 23 and pin 26 is 7
[23:40] <shiftplusone> I'll check on my pi first
[23:40] <[Ex0r]> yes please, shiftplusone
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[23:41] <shiftplusone> rebooting
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[23:41] <shiftplusone> it booted
[23:42] <[Ex0r]> k let me try
[23:42] <[Ex0r]> that WORKED!
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[23:42] <shiftplusone> yay
[23:42] <[Ex0r]> once again, a god among men
[23:42] <shiftplusone> =)
[23:43] <ShorTie> cool, don't have the funds for a pi right now
[23:43] <shiftplusone> heh
[23:43] <[Ex0r]> Now.. last question.. is there a way to get rid of the rainbow splash that shows up when the pi is first turned on ?
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[23:43] <shiftplusone> might be something in config.txt.... not sure. Checking.
[23:43] <[Ex0r]> i dont even think its loaded yet, its like as soon as you start it up
[23:43] <shiftplusone> disable_splash = 1
[23:44] <shiftplusone> put that in /boot/config.txt
[23:44] <[Ex0r]> YAY!
[23:44] <[Ex0r]> Thank you so much!
[23:44] <shiftplusone> np
[23:44] <[Ex0r]> now, before something bad happens, let me make an image of this sd card
[23:45] <[Ex0r]> so i dont have to ever do all of this again :)
[23:45] <shiftplusone> instead, I recommend you make a list of changes so that if you need to do it again, you can do it quickly
[23:45] <shiftplusone> because all we really did was change a few files.
[23:45] <[Ex0r]> i have them written down in a text file
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[23:46] <[Ex0r]> what I will probably do, is after I back this up
[23:46] <shiftplusone> ply-image, rc.local, autostart.sh, autostop.sh, inittab, cmdline.txt, config.txt
[23:46] <[Ex0r]> install a fresh retropie on a new sd card, make the changes, make an image than give it to the retropie team
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[23:47] <shiftplusone> that's not very helpful for developers
[23:47] <shiftplusone> patches
[23:47] <[Ex0r]> You mean adding it to the git ?
[23:48] <ShorTie> ya, they like 'diff -ruN''s
[23:48] <shiftplusone> but this is all kind of an ugly hack, so I don't know if it's something proper projects should be using
[23:48] <[Ex0r]> lol
[23:48] <shiftplusone> then again, retropie is full of ugly hacks itself so...
[23:48] <[Ex0r]> all I know is it works exactly how I want it to
[23:48] <[Ex0r]> too*
[23:48] <[Ex0r]> to*
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[23:49] <gordonDrogon> intersting - didn't realise you could disable the rainbow.
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[23:49] <gordonDrogon> ah well. I'll sleep on it :)
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> zzz
[23:50] <[Ex0r]> hehe, raspbmc does it so I knew it could be done
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[23:52] <[Ex0r]> thank you bunches, gordonDrogon
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[23:52] <[Ex0r]> err, shiftplusone
[23:53] <shiftplusone> np
[23:53] <[Ex0r]> i really appreciate it
[23:53] <[Ex0r]> tomorrow hopefully (With the exception of the usb extension cables), the project will be done
[23:53] <[Ex0r]> right after I find a safe way to mount the pi inside the case
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[23:54] <shiftplusone> I haven't fiddled with any of this stuff before, so I've learned a fair bit today here myself.
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[23:54] <[Ex0r]> well thats cool than, that you got something out of it too
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[23:56] <[Ex0r]> I have a piece of adhesive backed foam 4mm thick I am placing on the bottom side of the case, where the metal is at, I think I am going to pick up an 8x11 sheet of plexiglass and cut it a little bigger than the pi, screw the pi to it, than screw the plastic to the case
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[23:58] * shiftplusone cringes at use of 'than' for 'then' >.>
[23:58] <[Ex0r]> lol
[23:58] <[Ex0r]> then*
[23:58] <[Ex0r]> too tired, eyes hurt
[23:58] <ShorTie> got any old video cards, you can use those for stand off's
[23:58] <[Ex0r]> i do, but the holes in the case dont match up with the pi
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[23:59] <[Ex0r]> so im gonna have to build a custom one, which isnt bad. The plexiglass is only like $4
[23:59] <ShorTie> just the things the cable screw into, not the whole card
[23:59] <[Ex0r]> yeah, I know. I have a whole drawer full of the copper motherboard stand offs

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