#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-05-01

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[0:00] <ShorTie> ok.
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[0:00] <[Ex0r]> but, I am going to use the original screws that came with the original motherboard, and the aluminum that surrounds the bottom of the case has built in stand offs
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[0:01] <[Ex0r]> alright, kids are calling, gotta go make dinner
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[0:01] <[Ex0r]> ill be back later on
[0:02] <sraue> [Ex0r], if setting the leds dont work on boot check if the gpio/led stuff is loaded as modules (see lsmod) if so its maybe to early and the drivers are not loaded
[0:02] <[Ex0r]> sraue- we got it working, we loaded /sys/ in the script and used a different method to do it
[0:02] <[Ex0r]> thank you though!
[0:03] <sraue> ok, dont read the whole chat
[0:03] <shiftplusone> to be honest, we could've used the same approach to still use the gpio tool
[0:03] <shiftplusone> mount proc instead of sysfs
[0:03] <shiftplusone> but doesn't matter
[0:03] <shiftplusone> it works, don't sneaze.
[0:03] <[Ex0r]> yeo
[0:03] <[Ex0r]> yep
[0:04] <sraue> yeah was my next idea that /sys and proc is not mounted, i think inittab is not really the right place todo such stuff... for the splash it may work
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[0:05] <shiftplusone> it's definitely not
[0:05] <shiftplusone> it's an ugly solution, but the one that works best as far as the user is concerned.
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[1:07] <bruxc> Currently trying to figure out what my pi's IP address is. I have tried a few things but to no avail. I was hoping I could find someone willing to help a brother out?
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[1:09] <shiftplusone> I am guessing it's just on the network now rather than ICS?
[1:10] <hybr1d8> If avahi-daemon is running on the pi you might be able to find via avahi-discover
[1:10] <bruxc> shiftplusone: It's still ICS :P
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[1:10] <hybr1d8> If not - you could try using wireshark to look for packets with the mac address of the pi
[1:11] <bruxc> Would it be best to throw it on the router?
[1:11] <hybr1d8> ie: tshark -i eth0 -Y "eth.src contains b8:27:eb"
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[1:11] <bruxc> hybr1d8: raspbian wheezy. not sure if it has avahi-discover
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[1:11] <bruxc> hybr1d8: no monitor, trying to SSH into it.
[1:12] <hybr1d8> avahi-discover would be run from another host to 'discover' things via 'avahi' ;)
[1:12] <shiftplusone> bruxc, then the answer is still in hosts.ics
[1:13] <pksato> bruxc: conect a monitor/tv and keyboard. :)
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[1:14] <bruxc> shiftplusone: currently 137.58
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[1:15] <hybr1d8> another way would be to log into your router (or whatever is serving DHCP) and check the leases for the pi
[1:15] <shiftplusone> hybr1d8, it's connected to a windows laptop with internet connection sharing enabled
[1:15] <bruxc> shiftplusone: tried putty with the IP in ics file.
[1:15] <bruxc> It took longer than it usually did before timing out.
[1:16] <bruxc> Network Error: Connection timed out
[1:16] <hybr1d8> ah - don't know windows so not sure how you would check that :(
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[1:16] <pksato> or, notebook, rpi or both interfaces are damanged.
[1:16] <bruxc> feel free to give me linux advice, I have a ubuntu 14.0.4 on my virtualbox.
[1:17] <shiftplusone> virtualbox is of no help here, you can't treat it like the pi is connected directly to it, it's not.
[1:17] <bruxc> pksato pi's not damaged. It works. I've confirmed with the XBMC setup I had it on last night.
[1:17] <shiftplusone> if you boot ubuntu for real, then it's another matter.
[1:17] <bruxc> Right. I figured.
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[1:18] <bruxc> I'm sure you could configure a virtualbox to work well enough but I don't know if it's worth it.
[1:18] <pksato> xmbc worked? what OS have today on rpi?
[1:18] <shiftplusone> I suspect something else is wrong.
[1:18] <bruxc> wheezy
[1:18] <shiftplusone> it sounds like it's not getting an IP at all and you just have the ols raspbmc IP there
[1:18] <shiftplusone> *old
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[1:18] <pksato> wheezy? not raspian?
[1:19] <shiftplusone> raspbian wheezy
[1:19] <shiftplusone> I hope
[1:19] <bruxc> yes.
[1:19] <bruxc> Sorry, I don't know the difference.
[1:19] <bruxc> name of image: 2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian.img
[1:20] <shiftplusone> wheezy is a release of raspbian like 8.1 is a release of windows. (loosely)
[1:20] <bruxc> I see.
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[1:21] <pksato> I can
[1:22] <shiftplusone> are you powering the pi through your laptop's usb port?
[1:22] <shiftplusone> or a proper supply?
[1:22] <pksato> I can interpret wheezy as normal debian (that not work on rpi).
[1:22] <bruxc> Both.
[1:23] <bruxc> It was on a power strip
[1:23] <bruxc> it is now on my laptop.
[1:23] <bruxc> Tested the power integrity when xbmc was on the pi, worked just fine.
[1:23] <pksato> bruxc: no way to connect some monitor ?
[1:24] <bruxc> Truthfully. Yes. There is. this is a learning experience for me. I know there's a way to do this.
[1:24] <bruxc> without a monitor*.
[1:25] <pksato> just for figure out that happens.
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[1:25] <bruxc> There's going to be times where a monitor will not be available to me.
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[1:25] <bruxc> So I'd like to at least know that I'm flashing images on my SD card without having to plug it in to a monitor and confirm.
[1:26] <pksato> You can have a not proper loaded OS.
[1:26] <pksato> or. serial console.
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[1:27] <bruxc> So it's the norm to plug a pi into a monitor and verify ip just by arp'ing?
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[1:28] <pksato> or checking dhcp lease (hosts.ics)
[1:28] <bruxc> In which case I have it.
[1:28] <bruxc> But for whatever reason it's not taking it.
[1:28] <pksato> set ip=bla on cmdline.txt?
[1:29] <bruxc> I have not done that. I'm not sure how to do that. mind walking me thru it?
[1:30] <pksato> put sd on computer, open cmdline.txt on notepad, and append ip=192.168.137.123
[1:31] <pksato> or, other ip on same range that other computer on network.
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[1:33] <bruxc> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait <space>ip=192.168.137.31
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[1:34] <pksato> no
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[1:34] <pksato> <space> is to indicate that have a space after last char,
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[1:35] <pksato> [] or <> on most cases indicate that on inner is some especial key.
[1:35] <bruxc> derp
[1:35] <bruxc> my bad
[1:35] <pksato> [esc] <F1> etc...
[1:35] <bruxc> Got it.
[1:36] <bruxc> rootwait ip=192.168.137.31
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[1:36] <pksato> yes
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[1:38] <pksato> and, start ping -t 192.168.137.31 before power rpi. (ignore erro, for some time)
[1:38] <bruxc> right
[1:38] <pksato> if kernel, and ethernet modules are load, ping got a echo.
[1:39] <pksato> and, can be lost some time after.
[1:39] <pksato> when network is started.
[1:40] <bruxc> yeah.... request time out all day'
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[2:27] <eggy> anybody tried the newer wayland preview?
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[2:37] <Jeebiss> hey guys, i am having a python issue on my pi, and i couldnt for the life of me figure it out this morning
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[2:37] <Jeebiss> My goal is to import this class into my project, http://examples.oreilly.com/9780596809577/CH09/PID.py
[2:37] <Jeebiss> I saved it as PID.py and put it into my project directory.
[2:37] <Jeebiss> This is how I am attempt to import it, see line 9
[2:37] <Jeebiss> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/Zf9dYv0w4N0lOIr8Sy3c/
[2:37] <Jeebiss> When I try to run mpu.py, I receive this error, http://paste.pound-python.org/show/gtCxMNPN60bUS4all9eK/
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[2:43] <eggy> ls
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[8:45] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: SirLagz: gordonDrogon: http://sidigital.co/sid
[8:46] <[Saint]> (raspberrypi usage spotted in the wild doing something very cool)
[8:46] <[Saint]> Rather long waiting time for control of the arm, but, its *very* fun.
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[8:54] <gordonDrogon> [Saint], intersting.
[8:54] <gordonDrogon> wonder what the arm is...
[8:54] <[Saint]> "pretty damn cool" is what it is.
[8:54] <[Saint]> ;)
[8:54] <gordonDrogon> but it's a "digital marketing" company.
[8:55] <gordonDrogon> they are using games, etc. to pull people into their world of pain and nonsense.
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[8:59] <[Saint]> These days "digital marketing consultant" is just a synonym for "professional reddit browser" I think.
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[10:41] <daedeloth> good morning
[10:41] <daedeloth> I need to generate stable pulses on the gpio pins, what should I google for?
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[10:44] <daedeloth> well, this seems nice: http://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/pwm_py.html
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[10:46] <daedeloth> also, what osciloscope / logic analiser / thingy should I buy?
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[10:47] <gordonDrogon> daedeloth, either use servoblaster or the PWM pin.
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> daedeloth, buy one that's as much as you can afford.
[10:48] <daedeloth> well, I can go from 0 to 500, but I want to buy something nice
[10:48] <Spice_Boy> trying to do servo stuff?... so am I
[10:49] <daedeloth> not servo but stepper motor
[10:50] <Spice_Boy> ah
[10:50] <daedeloth> but I think the idea is the same, generate steps?
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[10:56] <Davespice> anyone here reccomend me a good Passive PoE injector/splitter?
[10:57] <Xark> Davespice: How about cheap? :) http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/Passive-PoE-Cable-Set-p-1175.html
[10:58] <Davespice> Xark: yeah that is the kind of thing I am after
[10:58] <Xark> Davespice: (however, may be OK...)
[10:58] <Davespice> I just then need to adapt the barrel jack to usb
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[11:00] <Xark> Davespice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=COzR46Cuir4CFQZcfgod0jYALw&Item=N82E16812200699
[11:00] <utack> yes, i am totally sure the author of this article got the situation oO. "Nvidia takes on Raspberry Pi with the Jetson TK1 mini supercomputer"
[11:01] <Davespice> yeah the only trouble is I need to make sure the barel jacks are the same size and stuff
[11:01] <utack> nvidia was not like "let's make a new soc for high end tablets and even cars", they rather were like "let's make a new soc and sell the board for 200$ to destroy the pi"
[11:03] * Xark finds another "Pi killer" http://image.alienware.com/images/galleries/gallery-shot_desktops_auroraalx_01.jpg (except for price). :)
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[11:22] <daedeloth> I'm a bit lost, how do I install this? http://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/pwm_py.html
[11:24] <takkie> daedeloth: looks like a python script.
[11:24] <daedeloth> no it's written in c, so I guess I have to build it from source
[11:25] <daedeloth> ah, no, I've found a debina package
[11:25] <daedeloth> and installation instructions :)
[11:25] <daedeloth> never mind
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[11:38] <freeroute> hi everyone, I have a question regarding the first step of this tutorial - http://pihw.wordpress.com/guides/direct-network-connection/ - it says that I should check whether the laptop address is automatically allocated or fixed. However, under the Mac and Linux header it only shows how to do this under Mac. Now I assume that I have to issue the ifconfig command in order to see my local IP address, but
[11:38] <freeroute> when I do, I only see the MAC address of my eth0. So what is the relevant command to figure this out in Linux?
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[11:45] <takkie> freeroute: "ip addr show"
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[11:47] <daedeloth> so I was able to generate pulses on the right pin with http://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/pwm_py.html
[11:47] <daedeloth> but I don't understand how to control the rate of the pulses
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[12:00] <freeroute> takkie: thanks, but I guess it does something similar to ifconfig because I still can't see an IP address assigned to it. I am connecting through the wifi interface, but somehow in the tutorial it says that I should see an IP address anyway. Does this make sense?
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[12:01] <freeroute> because I think the author of that guide made some kind of mistake
[12:02] <freeroute> if nothing is connected to eth0 then logically it wouldn't have an IP address, so how to figure that out?
[12:02] <mfa298> you could try just "ifconfig" which will show all interfaces
[12:02] <mfa298> wireless is usually wlan0
[12:03] <takkie> freeroute: ofcourse you will not see an IP on Eth0 when it's not connected.
[12:03] <freeroute> takkie: yup
[12:03] <takkie> like mfa298 says, you should see an IP at Wlan0
[12:03] <takkie> even with ifconfig
[12:04] <utack> Xark, oh yeah total pi killer.
[12:04] <utack> i alsmost wanted to get that for a my dlna server, but then i was like "does that cpu really do the job, naah"
[12:04] <freeroute> so in regards to that tutorial, I should just use the address which is assigned to wlan0 ?
[12:05] <freeroute> (which doesn't really make sense to me at this moment since the pi would have to connect through an ethernet port)
[12:05] <takkie> freeroute: what is your goal here, trying to SSH into the Rpi?
[12:05] <takkie> then yes, you should use the IP for Wlan0
[12:07] <freeroute> takkie: as noted in the link I posted I want to connect to the Pi using just an ethernet cable - http://pihw.wordpress.com/guides/direct-network-connection/
[12:08] <mfa298> if you want to connect via ethernet cable then you need to connect the cable and get the address you get throguh that - it may not be the same as you get via wifi
[12:09] <takkie> freeroute: i see now. In this setup there is no router with DHCP server involved, so you need to set the IP's staticly
[12:09] <daedeloth> so, genearting pulses of 2.6�s seems not so trivial.
[12:09] <takkie> that is for the RPi and your Host aswell
[12:09] <takkie> freeroute: host being the device you have connected to the other end of the ethernet cable.
[12:10] <freeroute> takkie: so in this case the laptop is the host?
[12:10] <takkie> freeroute: by issueing "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.201" you set an IP address on the RPi
[12:10] <takkie> freeroute: yes.
[12:10] <takkie> after, you need to set a similar IP to the Ethernet interface of your laptop
[12:11] <mfa298> if either of the devices is also connected to another network (internet) you probably want to choose a different range to the one being used for internet access
[12:12] <mfa298> so if you had 192.168.1.x (assuming /24 netmask) for internet access use 192.168.2.x on the direct connection between pi and host.
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[12:12] <takkie> freeroute: mfa298 has a good point. Makes routing eassier.
[12:12] <freeroute> ah ok, so first set a static IP address to the eth0 interface on the pi, and afterwards set a static IP address to the laptop's eth0?
[12:13] <freeroute> and those 2 IP addresses would have to be in the same subnet then?
[12:13] <mfa298> all addresses on the physical network (host and Pi in this case) need to be on the same subnet.
[12:14] <freeroute> because 192.168.x.x range is already for wlan0 connected to the home router
[12:14] <mfa298> but keep it different to the one used for accessing the internet otherwise which ever machine is connected to both will start getting confused
[12:14] <freeroute> should I just use something like 193.x.x.x ?
[12:14] <freeroute> to avoid confusion alltogether?
[12:14] <mfa298> check what subnet mask is used. normally it would be /24 (or 255.255.255.0) in which case only the last digit changes in that subnet
[12:14] <takkie> freeroute: 193 is not a valid Local Area address
[12:15] <takkie> freeroute: i would go with 10.0.0.1 + 2
[12:15] <mfa298> stick to stuff in 192.168.x.y or 10.x.y.z otherwise you could give yourself problems accessing stuff on the internet
[12:16] <freeroute> ah ok, so I'll stick to 10.x.y.z then for now to save the trouble
[12:16] <freeroute> I knew subnetting would bite me some time or another. I always got confused when learning about subnets.
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[12:17] <freeroute> so I started to disregard it :S
[12:18] <takkie> subnets should not be disregarded. The interwebs would fail horribly if we would do so :)
[12:18] <freeroute> I know :(
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[12:19] <mfa298> subnets are fairly easy once you understand what's happening. Personally I found it helpful to look at the number in binary initially.
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[12:20] <takkie> that reminds me, i should dustoff my Cisco books and get to it.
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[12:23] <freeroute> I watched a video tutorial once where it got explained using binary conversion and I felt like I grasped the concept, but later I put my laptop to sleep and couldn't wake it up anymore. Video link gone, knowledge gone :(
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[12:24] <ShorTie> if you got < 254 devices on your network, there isn't much need to use the 10.x.x.x, might as well stick to the more standard 192.168.x.x
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[12:25] <takkie> in short: an ip-address is 32 bits long, devided in 4 octets, so 8 bits per octet, going from 1 to 256.
[12:26] <mfa298> more normally 0-255
[12:26] <takkie> mfa298: ofcourse, silly me.
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[12:30] <ShorTie> ending in 0 or 255 are not valid ip address for a device, thus the 254 device limit
[12:31] <mfa298> and usually .1 or .254 is used by the router
[12:31] <mfa298> although I did come accross the /22 subnet with the router on .17 just to be annoying)
[12:32] <ShorTie> normally, but that is not set in stone, your router can be anything from 1-254
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[12:36] <mahesh_> i want to run html scripts in rpi web server
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[12:46] <daedeloth> so, talking with arduino, how do I do this easily? using the serial connection?
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[12:48] <ppq> daedeloth, the easiest way is using usb, i guess
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[12:48] <ppq> serial via usb
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[12:52] <mahesh_> ppq
[12:52] <mahesh_> how can i write cgi scripts
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[12:55] <daedeloth> ppq, why not serial over the serial?
[12:55] <ppq> sure, works just the same
[12:56] <ppq> with usb you can skip the wiring part
[12:56] <ppq> whatever floats your boat :)
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[13:00] <daedeloth> well, the wiring is just 2 simple wires, right?
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[13:02] <daedeloth> so my plan is to turn the arduino into a pulse generator and give it commands from the pi
[13:03] <ppq> just keep in mind the arduino uses different logic levels when you design your circuit
[13:03] <daedeloth> what do you mean?
[13:04] <ppq> http://blog.oscarliang.net/raspberry-pi-and-arduino-connected-serial-gpio/
[13:04] <ppq> (afk, lunch)
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[13:04] <daedeloth> alright, usb it is then ;)
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[13:26] <daedeloth> so, this is my plan: the arduino board controls the stepper motor driver (generates pulses). At startup, the arduino is idle. The pi then sets some parameters in the arduino (maximum acceleration, maximum speed, etc).
[13:26] <daedeloth> and then the pi gives instructions to the arduino in the style of "go 50 steps up"
[13:27] <daedeloth> the arduino then calculates acceleration and executes the instructions based on it's current situation (= is accelerating / decelerating in any given direction, etc)
[13:27] <daedeloth> when done, the arduino reports back to the pi
[13:27] <daedeloth> is this a proper way to hanlde things?
[13:27] * gordonDrogon waves
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> daedeloth, it's as good a way as any.
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> send high level commands via serial to arduino.
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> and it's also how I do it :)
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[13:29] <daedeloth> alright
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[14:46] <ioudas> has anyone ever seen this before? Apr 30 19:02:07 raspberrypi kernel: [30731.622069] hub 1-1.3:1.0: port 4 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
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[14:47] <turtlehat> put it close to some strong em?
[14:47] <turtlehat> like a phone?
[14:47] <turtlehat> cell phone
[14:47] <SirLagz> ioudas: sounds like the hub is buggered to me...
[14:47] <turtlehat> my phone can reboot a µcontroller in a midi-controller i have..
[14:48] <turtlehat> i guess thats not supposed to happen, but it does
[14:48] <SirLagz> turtlehat: a bit different to a USB hub
[14:48] <ioudas> i have this on 3 manhattan hubs out of 5 pi's
[14:48] <turtlehat> oh ok
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[14:48] <ioudas> doing this
[14:48] <turtlehat> yea i was just guessing, since it said EMI
[14:48] <ioudas> after latest kernel upgrade
[14:48] <ioudas> never said it before latest kernel branch (fiq fsm)
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[14:54] <liamknight1993> Hello everyone!
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[14:55] <SirLagz> ioudas: well the logical conclusion to draw from that is that it's a kernel issue. Can you revert to the older kernel ?
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[14:56] <ioudas> I think I can, question is if it will ruin my other usb fixes
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[15:00] <mfa298> ioudas: the question you might want to ask yourself is whether it was an issue before - just not reported so you didn't know about it or a new issue.
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[15:00] <ioudas> yeah thats the question
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[15:01] <mfa298> I did come accross someone seeing a similar message on a desktop pc recently - but that was definetly EMI - it happened as he used a radio transmitter nearby
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[15:02] <ioudas> Well just to give you some history. These are actually set up as test demo units in a warehouse. Their function is to emulate wyse60 code.
[15:02] <ioudas> and connect to a remote server
[15:02] <ioudas> after deployment we would have repeating keystrokes with scanners... etc. we narrowed down some fixes....
[15:03] <ioudas> put the fiq fsm, which seemed to help. but not eliminate repeating. then we just disable repeating with setterm
[15:03] <ioudas> now the devices are dropping their keyboard's or scanner. proceeding to reset the numlock on the keyboard and the shift key gets stuck on
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[15:03] <ioudas> so now its a "different" issue
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[15:04] <mfa298> may or may not be related but I've had issues on older pc's with nearby radio tranmitters (walkie talkie type things)
[15:04] <mfa298> similar being odd characters on the keyboard input
[15:04] <ioudas> the problem is we cant identify any emi sources.
[15:04] <ioudas> near these
[15:05] <ioudas> the ones with emi near them (radios) etc. arent doing it
[15:05] <ioudas> the ones with nothing near them are doing it
[15:05] <mfa298> big motors and other industrial things like that can be EMI sources - although tracking them down can be a pain
[15:06] <mfa298> could be interesting to see if it's also a low signal area for mobile phones as thay can crank the power up when the signal is low
[15:07] <ioudas> lets say it is emi, and i get a ferrite core. What would i even put it on
[15:08] <mfa298> potentialy any incomming cables (USB / Power is where I'd start)
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[15:08] * ioudas can give that a try i guess
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[15:12] <takkie> ioudas: it's probably a long cable picking something up.
[15:12] <mfa298> sticking as much in a meta box as possible could also help
[15:12] <mfa298> s/meta/metal/
[15:12] <ioudas> they are in nema rated junction boxes
[15:13] <ioudas> but do have extended usb wifi cables
[15:13] <takkie> i've had some weird issues with long cables, then i found out it was a scooter causing the problem.
[15:13] <ioudas> did you get those errors
[15:13] <ioudas> according to the usb2.0 spec that error can happen once the port error limit is hit on a usb port.
[15:14] <takkie> i haven't had it with the Pi, but with a DIY crate radio and servo controller
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[15:15] <takkie> was pretty hard to find the cause, because i had nothing reporting errors to me.
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[15:17] <binaryhermit> I may be completely be failing to understand the issue, but aren't electric motors really noisy, rf-wise?
[15:18] <ioudas> guess i have two avenues of attack
[15:18] <ioudas> blow down a ferrite core to the usb cables
[15:18] <ioudas> doesnt go away remove the kernel
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[15:19] <binaryhermit> removing the kernel will fix the issue, by making the issue be that you can no longer boot
[15:19] <binaryhermit> unless you use a different kernel
[15:20] <ioudas> yeah, no
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[16:05] <ioudas> well there is a radio sitting next to the pi on one of the units... turned it on and now the pi is off the network.
[16:06] <takkie> so you've found the cause?
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[16:09] <ioudas> i will see. could be the fact the block they put the radio and the pi on is horribly connected and resets
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[16:10] <mfa298> if its just a radio receiver that shouldnt cause too much interference. It's transmitters I've seen issues from.
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[17:49] <dcplaya> Does anyone know of a very minimal OS that will still run GUI apps (specfically just 1 I have made in python)
[17:50] <freeroute> dcplaya: Arch?
[17:50] <shiftplusone> dcplaya, not enough parameters given
[17:51] <shiftplusone> arch or raspbian will work just fine. If you REALLY want minimal, there's buildroot and linux from scratch.
[17:52] <dcplaya> Rasbian includes a bunch of other stuff/overhead. I can go through and remove it but ideally I am looking for something "pre-made"
[17:52] <shiftplusone> dcplaya, what sort of stuff? I am not talking about the foundation's image or raspbian
[17:52] <shiftplusone> I just mean raspbian
[17:52] <shiftplusone> for example, https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[17:52] <dcplaya> Oh I thought you mean the foundation image
[17:52] <freeroute> what's the difference actually?
[17:53] <shiftplusone> freeroute, the foundation adds their repo, bundles in stuff from their partners like wolfram and oracle and other stuff they deem useful
[17:54] <shiftplusone> whereas raspbian just tracks debian as closely as possible, recompiling packages for the pi.
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[17:54] <shiftplusone> so you can bootstrap it like you would debian and get a minimal raspbian install to work from
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[17:55] <dcplaya> The only requirements I currently need is networking, SSH, and a way to run pyqt gui (X11 server??)
[17:55] <freeroute> shiftplusone: ah I see, so what then would be the difference between the Debian for ARM arch and vanilla raspbian ?
[17:55] <takkie> dcplaya: i would go with arch
[17:55] <Encrypt> Who is using his or her RPi as a server?
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[17:56] <shiftplusone> freeroute, the pi's cpu isn't properly supported by Debian. Their armhf target is too new for the pi, but their armel target doesn't take advantage of the cpu fully.
[17:56] <takkie> Encrypt: i am, as DNS and File server.
[17:56] <Encrypt> Ok
[17:57] <shiftplusone> hmm, what's the point of running your own DNS server?
[17:57] <Encrypt> takkie, Is your SD Card also becoming "read only" after ~ 1 month?
[17:57] <takkie> shiftplusone: shaves some ms of queries, also, i dont have to ask my ISP for my pr0n all the time :)
[17:58] <shiftplusone> fair enough
[17:58] <takkie> Encrypt: haven't run the server for 1 month yet.
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[17:58] <takkie> got my RPi 3 weeks ago
[17:58] <Encrypt> Ok
[17:58] <Encrypt> I have this problem from time to time...
[17:58] <Encrypt> Then, I can't receive any mail
[17:58] <shiftplusone> Encrypt, I have a pi running 24/7. No such issues. Though I only ssh in once in a while.
[17:59] <Encrypt> The only solution is to reboot the Pi
[17:59] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, Lucky you :)
[17:59] <shiftplusone> Encrypt, I just mean that I don't think it's normal behaviour and you should maybe investigate it a little closer or move to a usb root.
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[18:00] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, Ok
[18:00] <takkie> Encrypt: does it happen every single month? Maybe an update or cron? Also, check for sd corruptions
[18:00] <Encrypt> Nope
[18:00] <Encrypt> Once I had a 100 days uptime
[18:00] <Encrypt> Sometimes, after 20 days it may take place
[18:00] <freeroute> isn't flash media notorious for its limited write cycles?
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[18:01] <Encrypt> freeroute, Yes, it is
[18:01] <takkie> freeroute: why would a reboot resolve this?
[18:01] <Encrypt> So, I thought I could do a python script to get the last date recorded in syslog
[18:01] <freeroute> takkie: I thought you mean Encrypt
[18:01] <Encrypt> I would run it every 6 hours, and if he last date was more than a day ago, it would reboot the Pi
[18:02] <Encrypt> takkie, Because it does solve the problem :p
[18:02] <shiftplusone> Encrypt, with cards of different brands?
[18:02] <takkie> ^ worth testing.
[18:03] <dcplaya> takkie thanks for the arch suggestion. I seemed to have found almost exactly what I want
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[18:03] <freeroute> why not just have a simple 2.5" HDD as system storage?
[18:03] <freeroute> or 1.8", but they're pretty expensive
[18:03] <shiftplusone> even a simple usb flash drive works better than an sd card on the pi
[18:03] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, I have had the same SD Card for 2 years :]
[18:03] <Encrypt> It still works
[18:04] <Encrypt> Sometimes, it's not a matter of SD Card
[18:04] <Encrypt> The USB Sticks attached go read only
[18:04] <shiftplusone> oh
[18:04] <shiftplusone> what does dmesg say?
[18:04] <Encrypt> Well...
[18:05] <Encrypt> I didn't check
[18:05] <takkie> dcplaya: you'
[18:05] <takkie> re welcome ^
[18:06] <shiftplusone> dcplaya, don't forget to check out their wiki... they have a page on just about everything and it's all very well written.
[18:06] <takkie> takkie loves ArchWiki, it's awesome!
[18:06] <shiftplusone> 'tis
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[18:20] <kenrestivo> i've been asking around exactly where does tgat #622 in the kernel version come from?
[18:21] <kenrestivo> s/tgat/that/ tablet keyboard
[18:22] <shiftplusone> and what did you find?
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[18:30] <kenrestivo> nothing yet.
[18:31] <shiftplusone> <shiftplusone> kenrestivo, I believe that they bump it every time they update it https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/commits/master/boot/kernel.img
[18:31] <kenrestivo> that pointer to the kernel.img github did not show where the #622 comes from
[18:31] <shiftplusone> it doesn't come from anywhere... it just started with 1 and then was bumped up on each update
[18:31] <kenrestivo> it's just thecommit history. sorry,
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[18:35] <kenrestivo> it's a monotonic count of all the commits?
[18:35] <kenrestivo> umm.. ok. why not a hash of the commit instead?
[18:36] <kenrestivo> the source commit, that is, not the binary commit
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[18:36] <shiftplusone> sec, let me investigate it fully.
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[18:37] <kenrestivo> also, i'd like to know where in the build process that number gets added, just for grins
[18:38] <ckoch786> I am trying to communicate between two rpi's using the uart interface. I have attached the Rx of one to the Tx of the other and visa versa. I can send and receive. Most of the time the results are just garbage. any ideas as to what I am doing wrong?
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[18:43] <shiftplusone> kenrestivo, the exact history of the version bumps can be found in this file https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/blob/master/extra/uname_string
[18:43] <shiftplusone> and the git_hash file has the corresponding commit for the kernel
[18:43] <shiftplusone> and the git_hash file has the corresponding commit for the kernel
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[18:44] <shiftplusone> whoops
[18:44] <freeroute> git has SHA1 if I'm not mistaken
[18:44] <ckoch786> I am using this script to test https://gist.github.com/ckoch786/86c442dd79261b11829b
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[18:49] <utack> does anyone happen to have recent phoronix test suite results of a pi?
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[18:51] <takkie_> have a great one, everybody.
[18:53] <utack> hi takkie_
[18:53] <utack> btw is ssh active by default in raspbian images?
[18:53] <ckoch786> well I see now that the UART is a mini UART and does not perform any error detection or correction. Anyone have experience with using a full UART with a pi?
[18:54] <shiftplusone> utack, yes sir.
[18:54] <shiftplusone> kenrestivo, so from what I gather... the uname string is not bumped every kernel source commit, but every time the kernel image in the firmware repo is, which is about every other day. It doesn't actually correspond to anything, it's just used to track the exact kernel. From that information, you can get the matching firmware and kernel commit hashes.
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[18:55] <utack> shiftplusone, gooooood. very good
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[18:59] <utack> oh and i've been out of this for a while: can i resize the partition on my pc without breating the boot abilities?
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[19:00] <shiftplusone> as long as you have a fat32 partition with the firmware at the start
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[19:00] <utack> yeah. i will dd the official image over and resize the ext4 part
[19:01] <shiftplusone> that'll work just fine
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[19:01] <utack> cool
[19:01] <shiftplusone> assuming you know what you're doing or are using gparted
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[19:02] <utack> i don't know what i am doing but i do use gparted ;)
[19:02] <shiftplusone> excellent
[19:03] <utack> well a resize is a resize. no other options possible?
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[19:03] <utack> i won't mess with any partition tables or the fat one
[19:03] <shiftplusone> yeah, it's just that if you do it manually, there are a few extra steps which many beginners don't get straight away
[19:04] <utack> i see
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[19:36] <daedeloth> so to communicate with the arduino trough the rx / tx pins I should use a buffer chip?
[19:37] <shiftplusone> could get away with a voltage divider on the pi's rx pin, I believe.
[19:38] <daedeloth> that's a thing that takes away voltage and turns 5v into something smaller?
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[19:41] <shiftplusone> http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/00107.png
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[19:42] <daedeloth> hm, that would mean I'd have to buy resistors :)
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[19:42] <shiftplusone> can't get much done without resistors
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[19:43] <ShorTie> or just scrap out some old board
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[19:44] <daedeloth> but don't you have a million types of resistors?
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[19:45] <daedeloth> so starters buy sets?
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[19:52] <magnulu> hello! I have got myself a RPI3 from sheepwalk electronicts to connect a number (13 atm, 21-25 in total planned) of DS18B20 1-wir temperature sensors to my pi..
[19:52] <magnulu> does anyone have any experience with how many DS18B20s the RPI3 can handle before needing an external power supply?
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[19:55] <ShorTie> i think it is hard coded at 10 in 1-wire
[19:55] <utack> magnulu, 1.5mA does not sound that critical
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[19:57] <magnulu> ShorTie: what do you mean?
[19:58] <ShorTie> '-int w1_max_slave_count = 10;
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[20:00] <ShorTie> means without patching and compiling your own kernel, your limited to 10
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[20:02] <magnulu> hmm.. does this also apply with an i2c to 1-wire host adapter as the rpi3?
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[20:02] <ShorTie> not sure
[20:03] <magnulu> easily checked, let me see if I can actually read temperature from all 13 sensors.. they all show up using 'owfs'.. hang on
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[20:06] <magnulu> positive, I can read data from all 13 connected sensors..
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[20:07] <ShorTie> sweet, i must have been confused with regular 1-wire devices or something
[20:08] <ShorTie> So So Sorry .. :(~
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[20:10] <magnulu> well, the devices are regular, but connected to a i2c to 1 wire host adapter, so you are partially not wrong IMHO :)
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[20:12] <ChampS-> hey guys
[20:12] <[Ex0r]> hmm
[20:12] <ChampS-> i've a problem with my pi, since two hours i get a black screen everytime i start my Pi
[20:13] <shiftplusone> ChampS-, does the ACT LED do anything when you power it up?
[20:13] <ChampS-> i can login
[20:13] <ChampS-> so yes
[20:13] <shiftplusone> ssh?
[20:13] <ChampS-> but after the blackscreen just the red light is on
[20:13] <ChampS-> and no other light will blink or something
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[20:14] <shiftplusone> how are you logging in if the screen is black?
[20:14] <ChampS-> the screen turns black after I logged in
[20:14] <ChampS-> so i think the pi crashes or something
[20:14] <shiftplusone> is it set to boot into X (the GUI) automatically?
[20:14] <x29a> anything in the logs?
[20:14] <ChampS-> yes shitplusone
[20:15] <shiftplusone> do you have enough free space?
[20:15] <x29a> put the card into another laptop and check /var/log/*
[20:15] <ChampS-> x29a i cant check this cause of this balckscreen ;)
[20:15] <x29a> see above
[20:15] <ChampS-> but yes i will check it on my laptop
[20:15] <ChampS-> one moment please
[20:15] <x29a> id also run a fsck
[20:16] <x29a> and backup valuable data while you are at it
[20:17] <ChampS-> sometimes i have time to open the terminal but then it crashes
[20:18] <ChampS-> so there are just .img files on the sd card
[20:19] <ckoch786> Can I use all non ground/power pins of the gpio pins for anything?
[20:19] <shiftplusone> you're running windows or mac os then?
[20:19] <shiftplusone> ckoch786, as long as the i2c and spi modules are not loaded.
[20:19] <ckoch786> even the Tx and Rx?
[20:19] <ckoch786> shiftplusone, ^
[20:20] <ckoch786> this http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#GPIO_hardware_hacking has confused me
[20:20] <shiftplusone> hm, not 100% sure about that.
[20:20] <ChampS-> you're running windows or mac os then? << windows7
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[20:21] <shiftplusone> ChampS-, then you can't (easily) access the sd card. You'd need something like ext2fsd
[20:21] <gordonDrogon> yes, you can even use tx/rx
[20:21] <shiftplusone> ckoch786, I suspect tx/rx is usable if you disable the getty on it, but I am not sure if the kernel will allow you to use it as simple input/output.
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[20:21] <shiftplusone> ah
[20:21] <[Ex0r]> Got my custom splash screen made, got my theme made, im on a role
[20:22] <ckoch786> where is pin 0 in reference to the list under this section "The complete list of chipset GPIO pins which are available on the GPIO connector is:" on http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#GPIO_hardware_hacking
[20:22] <gordonDrogon> the kernel won't stop you...
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[20:22] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], excellent
[20:22] <gordonDrogon> ckoch786, http://wiringpi.com/pins/
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[20:23] <[Ex0r]> I wish it was a high-def one, it looks choppy
[20:23] <[Ex0r]> want to see it, shiftplusone ?
[20:23] <shiftplusone> sure
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> the internal serial driver should be disabled when you change the mode of the pins from ALT0 to IN/OUT, but it's probably best to stop getty and stop kernel printing in /boot/cmdline.txt anyway (although I've not boterhed in some instances and it's been fine)
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[20:24] <[Ex0r]> http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n158/master_yoer/splash.png
[20:24] <[Ex0r]> and the theme to go with it: http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n158/master_yoer/template.png
[20:24] <shiftplusone> cool
[20:24] <[Ex0r]> The theme needs some work
[20:26] <ckoch786> thanks
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[20:54] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], ah, by the way... figure you might want to add a shut down splash as well, which you can do by adding the ply-image command after the chvt.
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[21:22] <LambdaDusk> Hi, I'm currently working on my own OS/kernel for the pi and I have trouble finding some document on how to make an SD card image. I know I need to include the bootloader.bin firmware, but where can I find info on what the boot sector of the card has to look like?
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[21:24] <shiftplusone> LambdaDusk, it's a lot simpler than that.
[21:25] <shiftplusone> LambdaDusk, you just need a fat32 partition at the start of the card with bootcode.bin start.elf and the other firmware files
[21:25] <shiftplusone> then you put your kernel there as kernel.img
[21:26] <shiftplusone> LambdaDusk, the firmware files themselves can be obtained here https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot. No need to worry about boot sectors and all that.
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[21:30] <LambdaDusk> shiftplusone: That's great! Thanks. That must be why I couldn't find info on it.
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[21:30] <shiftplusone> heh, np
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[21:37] <LambdaDusk> shiftplusone: The have to be in the /boot/ folder?
[21:37] <shiftplusone> just the root of the fat32 partition, no sub-folders
[21:37] <shiftplusone> /boot is where the fat32 partition is normally mounted on the pi linux distros
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[21:39] <LambdaDusk> shiftplusone: The bootloader looks for any fat32 on the sd card?
[21:39] <LambdaDusk> I would format mine fat32 entirely
[21:39] <shiftplusone> I don't know if it's "any".
[21:39] <shiftplusone> I think it has to be the very first partition
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[21:41] <LambdaDusk> ok thanks again
[21:41] <shiftplusone> np
[21:41] <LambdaDusk> now only to find out what this "uart0" is supposed to be - I love tutorials without explanation links
[21:42] <shiftplusone> uart is the serial port
[21:42] <shiftplusone> do you have the peripherals documentation handy?
[21:43] <shiftplusone> Won't get far without this http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/BCM2835-ARM-Peripherals.pdf
[21:43] <LambdaDusk> unfortunately I'm horribly at finding stuff ^^
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[21:45] <LambdaDusk> and that text is about every information I wanted to find
[21:45] <LambdaDusk> should have just asked hours ago
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[21:47] <LambdaDusk> and sorry for being so stupid, but what exactly is connected to the uart0?
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[21:48] <shiftplusone> where are you seeing references to it?
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[21:48] <shiftplusone> there shouldn't be anything connected, it's just one of the first things you want to get working to make debugging easier.
[21:49] <shiftplusone> by connecting a usb - 3.3v uart to your pi, you can pass data to and from your pi quiet easily, without needing USB or anything else working.
[21:49] <shiftplusone> *quite
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[21:52] <LambdaDusk> ooooh that makes sense. Though I don't have any peripheral like that on my hand
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[21:54] <shiftplusone> do you have a second pi?
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[21:54] <LambdaDusk> no. And I don't have any electronics stuff - I'm more a software guy
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[21:55] <shiftplusone> going to have a hard time writing an OS
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[21:57] <LambdaDusk> then I will try to find something I can use for that
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[22:08] <narcos> Hey all. I'm trying to attach a 20?4 HD44780 LCD to my Pi following this tutorial: http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/08/20x4-lcd-module-control-using-python/
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[22:08] <narcos> Am I correct in thinking that the resistors and transistor are optional, and that omitting them will just default the contrast and backlight?
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[22:08] <rikkib> Power cut in 1 hour... Line maintenance.
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[22:10] <ring0> get ready for the ups to kick in
[22:11] <shiftplusone> narcos, no sir
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[22:12] <narcos> shiftplusone: dang
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[22:16] <narcos> shiftplusone: So, it seems the component in pin 3 is a "10K ohm trimmer" - is that like a pot?
[22:16] <shiftplusone> yup
[22:16] <rikkib> UPS is not going to kick in as all power will be turned off manually before they cut power.... Outage is going to be all day.
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[22:18] <ShorTie> doesn't your automatic transfer switch kick in and start your generator ?
[22:18] <rikkib> I will not be able to finish building my wind vane prototype
[22:18] <rikkib> No genny
[22:18] <narcos> shiftplusone: So the pot needs +5, ground, and then the middle pin goes to the device, right? It looks like the pot on the right has LCD pin, 5V, but nothing connected to the third one
[22:18] <rikkib> UPS yes
[22:19] <ShorTie> yup, got a whole house full of those too...
[22:20] <shiftplusone> narcos, I don't know, I find verbal descriptions of circuits and breadboard diagrams like the one on the page completely useless.
[22:21] <narcos> "If only two terminals are used, one end and the wiper, it acts as a variable resistor or rheostat."
[22:21] <narcos> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentiometer )
[22:21] <narcos> shiftplusone: me too. I don't suppose you know another tutorial with a proper schematic for a HD44780?
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[22:22] <shiftplusone> narcos, I'd start with the datasheet and then maybe look at some of the avr-focused tutorials.
[22:23] <shiftplusone> narcos, but what are you confused about exactly?
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[22:23] <narcos> shiftplusone: I think I've answered my own question, I was wondering why the second pot had only two connections
[22:23] <shiftplusone> narcos, you just need a variable voltage on the contrast. You can use normal resistors to make a voltage divider.
[22:23] <narcos> But it seems that converts a pot to a rheostat, which seem essentially the same
[22:24] <shiftplusone> ah ok
[22:24] <shiftplusone> yeah, exactly
[22:24] <narcos> cool :)
[22:24] <narcos> Time to try find these components in all these drawers
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[22:27] <rikkib> Stew on toast for breakfast
[22:27] <rikkib> Bfore the power ges off
[22:29] <shiftplusone> narcos, note that using a standard HD44780 with the pi is a little ugly. They're 5v devices. Although they should work with 3.3v inputs, you have to make sure you never read back from them. A correct implementation of the library would read the busy flag, which you can't do with the pi directly, so most people just add arbitrary-ish delays.
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[22:29] <shiftplusone> but if it works, who cares, I guess.
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[22:31] <rikkib> HD44780 is so old I have a hard copy book for it (Data book).
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[22:32] <narcos> shiftplusone: I noticed the author of this tutorial said """The RW pin allows the device to be be put into read or write mode. I tied this pin to ground to prevent the module attempting to send data to the Pi as the Pi can not tolerate 5V inputs on its GPIO header."""
[22:32] <shiftplusone> excellent
[22:33] <shiftplusone> I've seen people use 3.3v as vcc for it, then they can use it properly, but the contrast then requires a negative voltage.
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[22:33] <shiftplusone> Then they used PWM and some inverter magic circuit to get the negative, adjustable voltage for it.
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[22:41] <narcos> shiftplusone: ahh ok, cool
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[22:42] <shiftplusone> here we are http://www.microchip.com/forums/tm.aspx?high=&m=383180&mpage=1#383300
[22:43] <shiftplusone> not that anyone cares, but still.
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[22:54] <rikkib> Gone before the power gets cut...
[22:54] <rikkib> bbl
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[22:54] <shiftplusone> have fun
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[22:55] <narcos> shiftplusone: Sorry, connection dropped
[22:56] <shiftplusone> didn't miss anything
[22:56] <narcos> :)
[22:56] <narcos> This tutorial suggests a BC547 or BC548 transistor. I can't find out - know if a BC337 would work?
[22:57] <shiftplusone> what's the transistor for? backlight or something?
[22:58] <shiftplusone> Do you need to be able to switch it on and off at this stage?
[22:58] <narcos> I think so, and no I don't
[22:58] <narcos> Leaving it on is fine
[22:59] <shiftplusone> I am not actually answering the question because I am lazy and don't want to compare the datasheets.
[22:59] <narcos> ok :)
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[22:59] <shiftplusone> but the tutorial says 5v through 560ohm to that pin is fine.
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[23:02] <narcos> shiftplusone: ok
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[23:05] <whuffor> Nice. I managed to get a web server up and running. Now to add content. :)
[23:06] <Encrypt> whuffor, :)
[23:06] <Encrypt> whuffor, Which web server?
[23:06] <shiftplusone> better be nginx >=/
[23:06] <whuffor> Encrypt: I put apache2 on there. It's the only one I know.
[23:07] <Encrypt> http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
[23:07] <whuffor> I debated if I should try nginx, but went with what I knew
[23:07] <whuffor> hehe
[23:07] <whuffor> http://rpitinker.com
[23:08] <Encrypt> :)
[23:09] <whuffor> I was especially proud that I figured out how to forward port 80 on an Apple airport extreme. That isn't the most advanced router out there
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[23:26] <gordonDrogon> evening ...
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[23:29] <shiftplusone> hello
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[23:50] <rikkib> Power people have not fronted yet.
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[23:51] <ShorTie> maybe they put it off till tomorrow
[23:52] <rikkib> They have specified a retry day on the 5th
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[23:53] <ShorTie> to much work for a friday, ah
[23:53] <rikkib> What ever, I can't really do much.
[23:53] <ShorTie> i hear that
[23:54] <rikkib> I have turned on the machine with the diagram I am working to and the iron... May get a couple more wires it place.
[23:55] <rikkib> in place
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[23:55] <ShorTie> cool, that weather vane did look nifty
[23:55] <ShorTie> nice work
[23:55] <rikkib> I should see them arrive hopefully
[23:55] <rikkib> I have a cam pointing out the driveway
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[23:57] <rikkib> So many unknown's yet to say it is a good idea....
[23:57] <rikkib> Battery drain is the first question that need answering
[23:58] <rikkib> 3 x AA Nidac's
[23:59] <rikkib> The state machine fires up and goes into a high power sleep mode and waits for a command... The radio is always on.

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