#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-05-04

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[0:04] <shiftplusone> no, but it looks interesting
[0:04] <shiftplusone> a 'uboot' port seems a bit odd
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[0:07] <rosapoP> shiftplusone: think its a button
[0:08] <shiftplusone> that would make a little more sense
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[0:11] <shiftplusone> looks like I was wrong about make. The Makefile was just wrong and it was doing a default action.
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[0:16] <SiC> the uboot button just allows you to put it into firmware upgrade mode basically
[0:16] <SiC> using the allwinner tools
[0:16] <SiC> I'm finding the ethernet interface to be incredibly flakey :|
[0:16] <SiC> sometimes it starts up and works fine
[0:16] <SiC> other times not
[0:17] <SiC> appears to work or not work when booted
[0:17] <SiC> if working, it stays working until power cycled
[0:17] <shiftplusone> all of these boards seem to have some issues at least
[0:17] <SiC> yea
[0:17] <shiftplusone> well, not the pi... the pi is perfect in every way of course.
[0:17] <SiC> :p
[0:17] <SiC> actually I find the pi to be the best
[0:17] <SiC> ok it does have issues, but there is solutions for them
[0:18] <shiftplusone> What about the BBB?
[0:18] <SiC> on these new boards, you have to figure it out yourself
[0:18] <SiC> and there isn't much of a community
[0:18] <SiC> not played with the BBB too much
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[0:18] <SiC> but generally it works
[0:18] <SiC> however I have noticed the community isn't as beginner friendly
[0:19] <SiC> I've seen noobs being shot down for asking valid beginner questions
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[0:19] <SiC> which annoys me personally
[0:19] <shiftplusone> ah, that's a shame
[0:19] <SiC> this iteadstudio ibox thing is their own design
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[0:20] <SiC> but seems to happily take cubieboard firmware images
[0:20] <SiC> so I reckon it uses the same pin mappings, etc
[0:20] <SiC> well on these SoC there isn't too different mappings anyway
[0:20] <SiC> not as if you can relocate the DDR or NAND interfaces to different I/O pins
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[0:21] <plugwash> I haven't dealt with allwinner stuff myself but I know on the imx6 stuff different boards need different DTBs to even boot
[0:21] <plugwash> presumablly something critical in pin-remapable or so
[0:22] <SiC> I dont know too much about the allwinner chips, but I know the allwinner chips have a file that defines the hardware setup
[0:22] <SiC> so yea there probably is some variation
[0:22] <SiC> but I guess a lot of that is to define LCD panel types/manufacturers
[0:23] <SiC> camera modules
[0:23] <SiC> etc, etc
[0:23] <SiC> as the allwinners are designed for tablets & phones
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[0:27] <SiC> http://www.stickycomics.com/wp-content/uploads/update_for_your_computer.jpg
[0:27] <SiC> haha
[0:27] <shiftplusone> lol
[0:28] <shiftplusone> I can definitely relate to the windows one.
[0:29] <shiftplusone> Wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have to reboot for every little thing.
[0:29] <Gadgetoid> A politically motivated deprecation is available for your Linux
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[0:29] <shiftplusone> eh?
[0:29] <SiC> at least windows service packs are free though, almost always mac ones you have to pay
[0:30] <SiC> expect the very last one
[0:30] <SiC> I mean apple just call it a "new" OS, however it looks pretty much the same on every update
[0:30] <shiftplusone> Idn, my brother is an Apple fan. He seems to mostly waste money on peripherals.
[0:30] <SiC> to be fair to microsoft, when they release a new OS, it at least looks different!
[0:31] <shiftplusone> is that a good thing?
[0:31] <shiftplusone> bring back the win 3.1 interface, I say!
[0:31] <SiC> well the OS X interface hasn't really changed in a major way since it was released
[0:31] <SiC> just fixes here and there
[0:32] <SiC> I mean it was only in the last year or so could you resize a window from all corners
[0:32] <shiftplusone> (not really, but I still think the UI went downhill after windows 2k)
[0:32] <shiftplusone> I'd probably retract that statement if I was put in front of a windows 2k box, but still.
[0:32] <SiC> :p
[0:32] <SiC> well my view is that I think its good that they keep pushing UI design
[0:32] <SiC> even if it doens't always work
[0:32] * SiC looks at win 8
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[0:33] * shiftplusone doesn't consider windows 8 an OS. Not one I'll be using any time soon anyway.
[0:33] <SiC> I'm using win 8.1 atm
[0:34] <SiC> only just started using it
[0:34] <SiC> (new machine as of last week)
[0:34] <SiC> win 8 was horrible, luckily win 8.1 upgrade is available
[0:34] <SiC> which fixes a lot of stuff
[0:34] <SiC> still don't like the metro interface though
[0:34] <Gadgetoid> Windows is great until you want to do anything with it!
[0:34] <SiC> when you have many pixels on your display, you don't need the whole blinking app to fill the screen
[0:35] <fwg> IMO metro is an "interesting" UI
[0:35] <SiC> dont you mean...
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[0:35] <SiC> [23:34:53] <Gadgetoid> Linux is great until you want to do anything with it!
[0:35] <SiC> :p
[0:35] <SiC> Windows is for getting work done ;)
[0:35] <Gadgetoid> Haha, depends if what you want to do involves SSH, Git etc- such hassle on windows
[0:36] <SiC> ssh = putty, easy enough
[0:36] <Gadgetoid> Putty is awful
[0:36] <atouk> mac is so yoru can look trendy and important
[0:36] <SiC> git you can just bring up a terminal
[0:36] <fwg> I had a developer coworker once who swore on windows for dev work
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[0:36] <SiC> nothing wrong with putty imo
[0:36] <atouk> tyy bitwise ssh
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[0:37] <atouk> (try)
[0:37] <ShorTie> putty rockz
[0:37] <Gadgetoid> Developing in windows, if you're not using visual studio, is raw pain!
[0:37] <SiC> depends also what your developing ;)
[0:37] <SiC> a lot of professional embedded tools need windows
[0:37] <SiC> (unfortantly)
[0:37] <Gadgetoid> Yeah I've noticed that
[0:38] <Gadgetoid> Or run better on windows
[0:38] <SiC> almost all the pro tools require dongle licences
[0:38] <SiC> which don't play nice over Virtual Machine
[0:38] <SiC> infact the IAR tools refuse point-blank to run in a VM
[0:39] <atouk> damn you Don Gall!!
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[0:40] <Gadgetoid> I haven't touched anything "pro" enough to require a dongle; except cubase - the whole concept makes me cringe!
[0:41] <SiC> IAR isn't cheap
[0:41] <SiC> and has an interface not far removed from win2000
[0:41] <atouk> can't remember the titles, but i ran CP programs years ago with dongle emulators to break the protection
[0:41] <Gadgetoid> Sounds delightfully painful!
[0:42] <SiC> our last licence for a MSP430 was £3200
[0:42] <SiC> around 5400USD
[0:42] <SiC> thats includes a years support agreement
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[0:42] <SiC> even though the IDE is pants, you're paying for the compiler
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[0:43] <atouk> Never wrote anythign big enough to need more that the free CCS
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[0:45] <SiC> CCS is based on eclipse - enough reason to avoid it in the first place (!)
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[0:45] <Gadgetoid> Java all the things!
[0:45] <SiC> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0quu7unbwxue8zo/Screenshot%202014-05-03%2023.44.59.png
[0:46] <SiC> sexy aint it
[0:46] <Gadgetoid> Optimised for optimal resource wastage!
[0:46] <SiC> lol
[0:46] <shiftplusone> SiC, have you used eclipse for a project? Not just open and poke around a little, but actually use it?
[0:47] <SiC> yes, for some android work I have done previously
[0:48] <SiC> interestingly google are moving away from it too
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[0:48] <SiC> my experience with eclipse is slow, rubbish UI design and pretty easy to crash
[0:49] <SiC> oh and it chews through memory like no tomorrow
[0:49] <shiftplusone> That was my first impression, but after I got past it, it didn't seem that bad
[0:49] <SiC> I know some people love it, but I personally dislike it
[0:49] <shiftplusone> integrates nicely with a lot of different tools.
[0:49] <shiftplusone> a little rough around the edges, but I got over it.
[0:50] <SiC> its not a tool I'd choose out of choice - but then often you don't get a choice
[0:50] <shiftplusone> Though I'll admit I haven't used any of the commercial tools
[0:50] <SiC> for example if you work for a company doing Microchip dev work, then you'll have to use it as they've reskinned it as MPLAB X
[0:50] <SiC> not too much choice there
[0:50] <shiftplusone> When I saw that most of them used gcc and eclipse, I didn't see a point =/
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[0:50] <SiC> lol
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[0:51] <SiC> gcc is nice that it supports a fair few devices and is free
[0:51] <SiC> and as long as you're not too bothered about the compiled output size...
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[0:55] <shiftplusone> I suppose if you are, you should be using different hardware.... or at least that's the approach nowadays.
[0:55] <SiC> depends on what you are developing for
[0:56] <SiC> the cost of a commerical compiler that can produce tighter compiled code is tiny in compared to the cost savings of using a smaller device
[0:57] <SiC> plus once you start using commerical stacks, they almost always rely on a commerical compiler as they are encrypted
[0:57] <SiC> point in case is a lot of the Bluetooth stacks
[0:57] <shiftplusone> oh =/
[0:58] <shiftplusone> That doesn't seem right
[0:58] <shiftplusone> not in the "you're wrong" sense
[0:58] <eggy> Anybody know the best minimal install of raspbain image to use?
[0:58] <eggy> I do not want the gui installed
[0:59] <shiftplusone> same answer as in #raspbian
[0:59] <shiftplusone> use the netinstall
[0:59] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
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[1:00] <eggy> prefect.
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[1:00] <SiC> unfortantly its just the way it is shiftplusone
[1:01] <SiC> often you just feel lucky that a lot of these stacks are royalty free nowadays :p
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[3:00] <yoshta> hello
[3:01] <yoshta> does the RaspberryPi have the capability of acting as a wifi AP and allows devices to stream 5-10 movies?
[3:01] <yoshta> like a tiny media wifi media server?
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[3:03] <pksato> yes. but, wifi route with file sharing cost same or less that rpi+extra_parts.
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[3:05] <yoshta> pksato: it should be able to stream 10 movies, 2gb HD movies w/o lagging right?
[3:05] <yoshta> pksato: what extra parts would be needed?
[3:05] <pksato> over wifi? a 10 1080p videos?
[3:06] <yoshta> pksato: yep
[3:06] <yoshta> I built a mini-itx computer for this and feel that it could have possibly be done with a raspberrypi
[3:07] <pksato> no with rpi or wifi router.
[3:07] <yoshta> you are saying no, it cant handle that many?
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[3:10] <pksato> one good encoded 1080p H.264 need more that 8Mbps. 10 oh theses need more that 80Mbps.
[3:10] <Poison[BLX]> it's a basic math problem, really. What's the actual bitrate at which your 1080p video streams, what's the bitrate of your network link, and what's the bitrate of a pi's USB bus, cut in half (best case, since you'll presumably be working with a USB based drive, and the pi can't pre-cache anything that size effectively)?
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[3:11] <yoshta> too much?
[3:11] <yoshta> bitrate can be 2-3mb for each vid
[3:11] <pksato> a router with real MIMO and 801.11n probable can do.
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[3:11] <yoshta> on the desktop computer I had a mini pcie card 300mbps
[3:12] <yoshta> for wifi
[3:13] <yoshta> I can plug in usb wifi dongle to act as WIfi ap
[3:13] <pksato> some guy tested USB bandwith of RPi, result that rpi can handle nerar 60Mbps.
[3:14] <yoshta> is that 20 connections of 3mb bitrate HD movies streaming?
[3:14] <pksato> to make a AP with RPi, you need a master capable WiFi dongle.
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[3:15] <pksato> google raspberry pi hotspot.
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[3:18] <yoshta> pksato: its the host mode is supported, do you think the rpi has the power to server 10 of those movies without being sluggish?
[3:18] <Poison[BLX]> Based on the ~60Mbps USB bus number there, roughly, you might be able to gamble on 25Mbps actual, since, whether you're going wifi or wired, you're looking at sharing the usb chip's bandwidth between the drive and the network, and the overhead for both. At 3Mb with 10 independent streams you'll likely choke it, and that's assuming direct from file streaming, no reencoding overhead, etc.
[3:18] <yoshta> hmmm
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[3:21] <Poison[BLX]> that's also assuming there's not added degradation on the wifi side from encryption, etc.
[3:24] <Poison[BLX]> If you have a pi, usb wifi, and a spare usb harddrive laying about, it might be a fun project to test, but I wouldn't gamble on it being a reliable use-case for 10 streams. What should, however, work... is 10 pis streaming from that media server you already built, at 1080p, without even being heavily loaded, assuming you get the streams decoding via hardware ;)
[3:25] <pksato> recently I buy a tp-link TL-WR842ND (have usb port for file sharing) for $55, rpi cost me $90. plus shippiment.
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[3:33] <yoshta> thanks Poison[BLX]
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[3:37] <shiftplusone> $90 for a pi? =O
[3:38] <shiftplusone> madness
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[3:41] <shiftplusone> hmm... time to ditch gnome... but for what =/
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[3:42] <shiftplusone> I suppose mate is worth a shot
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[4:15] <happygilmoregent> has anyone taken a pi in 0G?
[4:16] <shiftplusone> I've dropped it a few times.... does that count?
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[4:16] <happygilmoregent> lol
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[4:18] <[Saint]> happygilmoregent: consider the cost involved in that, and the fact that there's zero benefit to doing so, I'm gonna go ahead and guess "no".
[4:18] <happygilmoregent> yeah
[4:18] <[Saint]> There's only two options, both of which are prohibitively expensive.
[4:18] <happygilmoregent> launch one on a collision course with the moon?
[4:19] <shiftplusone> a pi cubesat is not unrealistic, to be fair
[4:19] <happygilmoregent> you mean in LEO
[4:20] <shiftplusone> aye
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[4:20] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: isn't it bigger than cubesat requirements?
[4:20] <[Saint]> (for the payload)
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[4:20] <shiftplusone> I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
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[4:21] <shiftplusone> and we know Hadfield has one, so we just need to convince him to sneak it onto the ISS >.>
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[4:21] <plugwash> what is difficult is not getting 0G it's getting 0G for a long time
[4:21] <[Saint]> Good point, yes.
[4:21] <shiftplusone> well, that's where I was going with the dropping it comment, heh.
[4:22] <[Saint]> I think the problem with the pi wrt: cubesat, is that most of the board is going to be pretty much useless to you.
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[4:22] <[Saint]> just more weight you need to get up there.
[4:23] <shiftplusone> Rob did some hardening a while back to make sure memory doesn't get corrupted in space, but that was mostly for fun (for the 24 hours of code or whatever it's called)
[4:23] * [Saint] gets the iconic image from Voyage dans la Lune in his head
[4:23] <[Saint]> http://www.umich.edu/~umfandsf/film/img/voyage_dans-sm.gif
[4:24] <happygilmoregent> do you think we will ever colonize the moon?
[4:24] <[Saint]> I think our survival depends on it.
[4:24] <[Saint]> Humans *need* to be a multi-planetary species in order to survive much longer.
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[4:25] <happygilmoregent> culturally or population wise?
[4:25] <[Saint]> We've done screwed this ball up irreparably.
[4:25] <[Saint]> We needn't worry. Or children needn't worry, nor their children...but, soon...
[4:26] <[Saint]> *Our
[4:26] <happygilmoregent> whose to say the next planet we infect won't suffer the same fate
[4:26] <[Saint]> It almost certainly will.
[4:26] <[Saint]> Humans are like locusts.
[4:26] <Spice_Boy> it's okay... only stupid people are breeding anyway
[4:27] <happygilmoregent> I like to think along the lines of stargate atlantis of multinational coalition
[4:27] <[Saint]> Hahahahaha, yeah...'cos nations are *sooooo* good at working together. ;)
[4:27] <happygilmoregent> mind you intelligence isn't a mark of cooperation
[4:28] <shiftplusone> eh? how the hell could going outside of the solar system be practical?
[4:28] <happygilmoregent> wormholes
[4:28] <shiftplusone> Maybe we'll figure out how to terraform mars and venus, but from there.....?
[4:29] <shiftplusone> and how much energy do you (theoretically) need for a wormhole?
[4:29] <[Saint]> happygilmoregent: I think shiftplusone meant more "why" than the theoretical "how".
[4:29] <shiftplusone> both
[4:29] <[Saint]> There's no obvious reason to *want* to leave the solar system.
[4:29] <[Saint]> Yet.
[4:29] <happygilmoregent> avoid stupidity
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[4:30] <[Saint]> Ohhhhh...I...errr...
[4:30] <shiftplusone> from what I remember, if wormholes were in any way practical, they would still take more energy than we could get from our solar system.
[4:30] <[Saint]> wut?
[4:30] <happygilmoregent> cancel out the sterlings don imuses
[4:30] <happygilmoregent> rush limbaughs
[4:30] <[Saint]> It won't, though.
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[4:30] <[Saint]> We'll still be human.
[4:30] <happygilmoregent> true
[4:31] <happygilmoregent> was reading the book speaker for the dead recently and I was wondering do you think that religion will follow us into the starts?
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[4:31] <shiftplusone> religion isn't going anywhere either.
[4:31] <happygilmoregent> why do we need it?
[4:32] <happygilmoregent> religion is one of the reasons to leave this rock
[4:32] <shiftplusone> I don't think we do
[4:32] <shiftplusone> but what I think doesn't matter
[4:32] <happygilmoregent> why do you say that?
[4:33] <[Saint]> Because he thinks it now and it makes no difference.
[4:33] <[Saint]> Thinking the need for something is nonexistent doesn't make that thing cease to exist.
[4:33] <happygilmoregent> what do you think saint
[4:34] <happygilmoregent> do you think religion will follow us into the stars?
[4:34] <[Saint]> In a way I think it kind of has to.
[4:34] <happygilmoregent> why
[4:34] <[Saint]> Many people *need* religion.
[4:35] <shiftplusone> I may have my opinions about utility or religion (or lack thereof), but our minds have evolved to look for answers in a certain way.
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[4:35] <happygilmoregent> in my personal opinion I think religion is a crutch to hold us to the theory of reward and punishment
[4:35] <[Saint]> Look for answers, to a certain point, and then just accept "God did it" ;)
[4:36] <[Saint]> Not all of us are looking for answers. ;)
[4:36] <[Saint]> Some think they found them.
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[4:36] <happygilmoregent> I found it
[4:36] <shiftplusone> for example, when kids are asked why they think rocks are sharp and told two theories like "because or erosion" and "so that animals can scratch their backs", they will tend to go for the explanation which implies some sort of purpose.
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[4:36] <happygilmoregent> the answer to life the universe and everything is 42
[4:36] <shiftplusone> and then from there you get to the watchmaker analogy
[4:37] * [Saint] would simply point out the many and varied non-sharp rocks
[4:37] <happygilmoregent> intelligent desing
[4:37] <happygilmoregent> *design
[4:38] <[Saint]> If we were created from intelligent design, we must've been an early beta version or something...
[4:38] <happygilmoregent> I'm a cynic when people ask why we are here
[4:38] <[Saint]> I don't think there is a "why".
[4:38] <happygilmoregent> the jaffa were version 2
[4:39] <[Saint]> I think its rather egotistical (perfectly human) to assume purpose for existence.
[4:39] <happygilmoregent> why just because doesn't fly?
[4:40] <[Saint]> But people find it very hard to deal with everything being the result of a series of long and drawn out flukes.
[4:40] <[Saint]> Which is understandable.
[4:40] <[Saint]> If people need to think they;re ehre for a reason, let 'em.
[4:40] <happygilmoregent> your an atheist I gather then?
[4:41] <[Saint]> I believe that FSM graced us with His just sauce and noodly appendage.
[4:41] <happygilmoregent> lol
[4:42] <happygilmoregent> gnosticism seems intelligent
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[4:43] <happygilmoregent> hitting the hay nice talking to you
[4:43] <[Saint]> To answer your question, no. I am not an atheist.
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[4:43] <[Saint]> I'm quite prepared to be proven wrong, I just don;t expect to be.
[4:43] <shiftplusone> Ah, another barrier to overcoming religion (and not only religion).... we associate what we believe with who we are. If someone believes something and you try to tell them they are wrong.... you've attacked them personally.
[4:44] <[Saint]> If St. Peter and I end up hashing out our differences, then so be it.
[4:44] <[Saint]> I hear the G-man i supposed to be forgiving. He'll totally dig it.
[4:44] <shiftplusone> and 'night
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[4:47] <[Saint]> The main problem I have is, if there is a higher power, whoever he/she/it/they may be, would it be /too/ hard to just be all like "Yo, guys, I see you're doubting on the holiness - check it, yo"
[4:48] <[Saint]> Must the only "proof" come from centuries old text translated time and time again?
[4:48] <shiftplusone> God ran out of mana, so no more miracles.
[4:49] <shiftplusone> But I believe the traditional answer to that is the notion of free will.
[4:49] <[Saint]> Interesting metaproblem: what *would* we consider a miracle in this day and age?
[4:49] <[Saint]> Sleight of hand 'aint gonna cut it anymore.
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[4:49] <[Saint]> We're slamming atoms into each other and creating mini black holes at will...
[4:50] <[Saint]> Proof of a miracle would be easily missed in a scientific age.
[4:50] <shiftplusone> Well, how about healing an amputee?
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[4:50] <[Saint]> Depends *how*.
[4:51] <[Saint]> We can already do that.
[4:51] <shiftplusone> Anyway, I don't want to get too carried away on this topic.
[4:51] <[Saint]> Also, yes.
[4:51] <shiftplusone> Or I'll get me a talking to.
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[4:51] <[Saint]> I sincerely hope that wouldn;t happen.
[4:51] <[Saint]> For a variety of reasons.
[4:52] <[Saint]> ...but it likely would.
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[5:34] * nerdboy broke out his pi at the yocto booth
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[5:35] <shiftplusone> how did it go?
[5:35] <nerdboy> awesomely
[5:35] <shiftplusone> awesome
[5:35] <nerdboy> three days of elc and two of openembedded dev meetings
[5:36] <nerdboy> now i just need to pass out for a week or so...
[5:38] <nerdboy> the device tree talk was enlightening, if dry
[5:39] <nerdboy> only went to one android talk, mostly because it was selinux and the speaker was a skinny little nsa geek
[5:39] <shiftplusone> 'nsa geek'? O_o
[5:40] <nerdboy> didn't win any cool hardware, but i got a buttload of t-shirts and hats
[5:40] <nerdboy> plus two nice little batteries for pi/beaglebone
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[5:41] <shiftplusone> cool
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[5:41] <nerdboy> shiftplusone: you didn't know they developed selinux?
[5:41] <shiftplusone> ah, right
[5:41] <nerdboy> been in the kernel for a long time
[5:42] <nerdboy> samsung has already deployed it in enforcing mode
[5:42] <nerdboy> on my phone...
[5:43] <nerdboy> and the apps keep getting more and more obnoxious...
[5:43] * nerdboy will buy a nexus and put sailfish on it
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[5:52] <[Saint]> Its pretty easy to screw SEL over on Android, if you want to.
[5:52] <[Saint]> Its mostly harmless, though.
[5:53] <nerdboy> it's not at all like full coverage in gentoo hardened
[5:54] <nerdboy> or even rhel
[5:54] <nerdboy> but it's a start
[5:54] <[Saint]> Indeed not.
[5:54] <[Saint]> But other Androidisms partially negate the need.
[5:54] <nerdboy> um, a mac framework is generally a good thing
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[5:54] <shiftplusone> I tried hardened gentoo once. Spent more time administrating than actually using it. =/
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[5:55] <nerdboy> i've always been running hardened/selinux on my own production servers
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[5:56] <nerdboy> about 10 years or so anyway...
[5:56] <nerdboy> but it's time to migrate off the amd k-6 before it just dies
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[5:59] <[Saint]> Woooo
[5:59] <[Saint]> You just brought some AMD nostalgia flooding back.
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[6:01] <nerdboy> the other one was a p-166 before it got upgraded to amd64 dual core a few years ago...
[6:02] * [Saint] is also a fan of "upgrading" with ancient hardware.
[6:02] <nerdboy> these are my cheesy home boxes with public services
[6:02] <[Saint]> I have some dinosaurs lurking around here...
[6:03] * [Saint] looks at the MicroBee
[6:03] <[Saint]> "Yeah, you - you heard me. Don't give me that look"
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[6:04] <nerdboy> i gave away my nslu2 a long time ago, but is still have a kurobox HG
[6:04] <nerdboy> s/i/is/
[6:04] <[Saint]> I have an Amstrad 6128
[6:04] <[Saint]> But I can't find the power brick.
[6:05] <nerdboy> plus like 6 or seven ppc macs of various types, one mac quadra (68040) and one sparc ultraII and two ultras
[6:06] <nerdboy> the sparcs have not run in many years
[6:06] <nerdboy> but they powered up the last time i tried...
[6:06] <nerdboy> you can have them for the cost of shipping ;)
[6:07] <[Saint]> From?
[6:07] <nerdboy> california
[6:07] <[Saint]> Hahahahahahahaha...yeah, nah.
[6:07] * plugwash (~plugwash@97e03ff4.skybroadband.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[6:07] <[Saint]> <-- New Zealand
[6:07] <nerdboy> i did say ;) i think...
[6:08] <nerdboy> it's about time for an office cleanup/bulldozer
[6:09] <[Saint]> I got rid of a LOT of old hardware when I moved to this address.
[6:09] <nerdboy> i might even need a crane...
[6:09] <[Saint]> Ms. [Saint] was pleased that day.
[6:09] <[Saint]> It was brutal. A massacre.
[6:09] <nerdboy> i bet
[6:10] <nerdboy> i originally thought about making the ultra II my mail server
[6:10] <nerdboy> ran gentoo on it for a while (what else?)
[6:11] <nerdboy> but it was about like keeping your washing machine running 24/7
[6:12] <nerdboy> Mrs nerdboy was also very happy when i shut it down
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[6:13] <nerdboy> hey, i made a new website for my not-yet-paying consulting shop before i left for elc
[6:13] <nerdboy> totally not finished, but it's a work in progress...
[6:14] <nerdboy> http://www.vctlabs.com/
[6:14] <nerdboy> the old one was *really* old...
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[7:20] * nerdboy wonders how long monarch butterflys have been around as a species
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[7:29] <nerdboy> apparently wikipedia doesn't know that one
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[8:08] <[Saint]> I Particularly like the impossibly small font, nerdboy ;)
[8:09] <[Saint]> "Lets navigate this site...dum de doo, OK - do I want to visit squiggle, blur, or wiggly line today? Decisions decisions..."
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[8:19] <nerdboy> the tags are apparently sized by their frequency of occurance
[8:19] <nerdboy> you can always zoom...
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[8:20] <nerdboy> looks like someone misdated their mercury article...
[8:20] <nerdboy> wasn't me, i swear
[8:21] <nerdboy> <cough> stephanie <cough>
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[8:22] <nerdboy> hehe
[8:22] <nerdboy> oops, she did the commit, but looks like her dad wrote it
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[8:23] <nerdboy> a bit more understandable then ;)
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[9:31] <ZinovaS> hi, i writen small daemon and starting in on system boot, is there a way to make it start only after date/time from ntp get updated?
[9:32] <ZinovaS> btw, im on rasbian
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[10:19] <saedelaere> is it enough to use pull up resistors (3.3v => 5v) and voltage dividers (5v => 3.3v) with the raspberry pi and spi? speed is not my concern, I will limit it to 500kHz
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[10:23] <mgottschlag> saedelaere: pull up resistors to 5v are not necessarily safe
[10:23] <mgottschlag> but they don't really make sense in this context either, maybe I don't understand what you want
[10:25] <saedelaere> i am trying to communicate with a device over spi. the device is powered by 5v. so I thought I need to rpi MOSI, SCLK and CE to 5v and MISO from 5v to 3.3v
[10:28] <mgottschlag> for voltage conversion from 3.3v to 5v you need more than just a pullup
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[10:28] <mgottschlag> maybe your device already recognizes 3.3v as high, or you need a full level shifter (can be built from two transistors, or you use a chip)
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[10:41] <DoctorD90> gordonDrogon: hello! are you there? b)
[10:41] <DoctorD90> :)*
[10:42] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: you?
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[10:43] <DoctorD90> i have make some research to learn more about DAC. I found all.about Voltage. My easy question is: with a DAC is possible manage AMPERE instead of Volts? :)
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[10:46] <mgottschlag> DoctorD90: yes, it is, although you won't find as many ready-to-use solutions
[10:47] <DoctorD90> ? what do you mean? :)
[10:47] <DoctorD90> i was thinking to a chip ....a dac amp chip xP
[10:48] <mgottschlag> well, there are no "constant current dac" chips, unlike "constant voltage dac" chips
[10:48] <mgottschlag> oh, I am wrong
[10:49] <mgottschlag> http://www.linear.com/products/current_output_dacs
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[11:01] <DoctorD90> mgottschlag: thx! no i have an hope :D thx!
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[11:26] <saedelaere> mgottsclag: thanks for your help. I think I ordered the correct parts for level conversion now :)
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[13:20] <Mentos> Hey does a voltage reading of 4.72v seem low for having USB keyboard/ethernet/SD Card/HDMI plugged in? (just power voltage = 5.03v)
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[13:23] <saedelaere> I have a lm1117t linear voltage regulator. It is the adjustable version and it ouputs 5.01v. If I use it to power a raspberry pi (model a revB), voltage on the pi drops to ~4.8v under heavy load and sometimes the pi resets. Current draw never exceeds 350mA so that can't be the problem. Where does this voltage drop come from?
[13:23] <ZinovaS> Mentos, I noticed that mouse and keyboard starts having problem while raspberry itself runs ok at 4.4V on testpoints. 4.72v allmost falls into usb spec
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[13:24] <Mentos> ZinovaS: k thanks, im finding that when i start connecting header pins my voltage drops to around 4.61 and my keyboard becomes unresponsive
[13:24] <ZinovaS> saedelaere, voltage drop mostly happens in the cable
[13:25] <Mentos> ZinovaS: i’ve tested my f3 fuse and it looks good
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[13:25] <Mentos> ZinovaS: so not sure if there are any strategies to keeping voltage up?
[13:26] <saedelaere> ZinovaS: thats a lot of drop for my short wires.
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[13:27] <ZinovaS> saedelaere, are you using self made cable to power rpi? cheap micro usb cables has high resistance
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[13:29] <ZinovaS> Mentos, check the voltage drop across fuse
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[13:29] <Mentos> ZinovaS: with just the power supply or with all peripherals?
[13:30] <ZinovaS> with everything connected
[13:30] <saedelaere> ZinovaS: ah yes, you are right I am using a cheap micro usb cable. And I thought I would have shorten it by now. But it is still 1m :) stupid me
[13:30] <ZinovaS> saedelaere, you may want to check voltage drop across the fuse too
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[13:30] <saedelaere> I will make it shorter
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[13:31] <saedelaere> 5 - 10 cm or so and then check again
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[13:32] <Mentos> ZinovaS: currently i have a 4.75v tp1-tp2 and a 4.70v tp2-f3
[13:34] <ZinovaS> Mentos, can you mesure voltage on power supply while everything is connected?
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[13:36] <Mentos> ZinovaS: how do i do that?
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[13:37] <ZinovaS> Mentos, what kind of power supply are you using?
[13:38] <Mentos> ac adaptor
[13:38] <Mentos> specifically http://www.adafruit.com/products/501
[13:41] <ShorTie> 'strategies to keeping voltage up?' you need to supply more then enough amps to keep voltage up
[13:42] <ShorTie> and big wires that can handle it
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[13:43] <ZinovaS> Mentos, I would try to change microusb cable and see what difference it makes
[13:43] <Mentos> ShorTie: is 4.75v a good range for having usb keyboard/ethernet/sd card/hdmi?
[13:44] <[Saint]> Its barely adequate.
[13:44] <ShorTie> spec is 5 +/- .2
[13:44] <[Saint]> Within range, just. If memory serves.
[13:44] <[Saint]> Ah. Not quite.
[13:44] <Mentos> ZinovaS: without anything plugged in i get 5.03v, could that still be the cable?
[13:45] <saedelaere> Mentos use an activve usb hub for your setup
[13:45] <[Saint]> ^ very this
[13:46] <[Saint]> Then you needn't care about such things, within reason.
[13:46] <ShorTie> alot of problems occure from peeps using the cheap phone charging micro usb cables too, the wires are to small and can not carry the current required to keep the voltage up to snuff
[13:46] <[Saint]> I was just in the middle of typing that.
[13:46] <ZinovaS> Mentos, yes, cable acts as a resistor, if no load applied then there be no voltage drop
[13:47] <[Saint]> Use quality cables
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[13:47] <[Saint]> Many are made if string and the souls of factory workers passed
[13:47] <[Saint]> *of
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[13:50] <Mentos> so the ideal voltage range with all peripherals is what?
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[13:52] <ShorTie> 5.0 volts
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[13:55] <ShorTie> checkout the new pi and watch the video to see his power supply http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-compute-module-new-product/
[13:56] <ShorTie> you will see it does not go under 4.99v
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[13:58] <mgottschlag> totally unrelated: what's the targeted audience for that compute board anyways?
[13:59] <Mentos> ShorTie: im starting off with 5.03v with nothing plugged in, then falling to 4.75v with everything in
[13:59] <Mentos> ShorTie: is that a bad start voltage?
[13:59] <mgottschlag> I fail to see any real use for it, at least none where there aren't significantly better competitors
[13:59] <ShorTie> no load voltage doesn't really tell you much
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[14:01] <ShorTie> to me, it means your supply does not have enough ampere capacity to keep the voltage up or the cable supply the power is to small to supply the current needed
[14:01] <ShorTie> i like a 2 amp supply
[14:01] <ZinovaS> Mentos, try different cable, if all you cables are same, consider buy micro usb cable designed for charging, with only 2 but fatter wires
[14:02] <Mentos> is this adaptor a pos http://www.adafruit.com/products/501 ?
[14:03] <ShorTie> i'd look more to your micro usb cable, does it have the size of the wire imprinted in the outter casing ??
[14:04] <ShorTie> should be atleast 28awg, if not bigger
[14:05] <Mentos> 28AWG/1P+24AWG/2C 30V
[14:05] <ShorTie> don't forget, the bigger the awg of the wire, the smaller it is
[14:07] <ShorTie> that soulds ok, which points to the supply does not have a big enough ampere capacity to keep the voltage up, imho
[14:08] <ShorTie> sounds*
[14:08] <Mentos> k thanks
[14:09] <ShorTie> i find that solder 18awg wires to the fuse and usb ground, makes a big diff
[14:10] <Mentos> i have a usb -> pin wire i got in my kit
[14:10] <Mentos> is it possible to power the board from the pin headers? Only issue is i need the pin headers to connect to other peripherals
[14:11] <ShorTie> although it is nice, i really think the use of the micro usb cable connector and cable are not a real good idea
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[14:11] <ShorTie> yes you can power thru the gpio pin, but you are by-passing the built in protections
[14:12] <Mentos> ShorTie: so i should probably look for a better psu, might you recommend anything i could find at radioshack across the street from me?
[14:14] <ShorTie> i have no idea what all Radio Shack has, but like I said i like a 2amp supply
[14:14] <[Saint]> iPad USB PSU's are cheap as chips second hand.
[14:14] <[Saint]> Pawn shops have tonnes of them. Try asking.
[14:14] <ShorTie> instead of just looking for a power supply, maybe check out a powered usb hub to supply power
[14:15] <Mentos> ShorTie: might you link me?
[14:16] <[Saint]> ebay; "powered USB hub"
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[14:16] <[Saint]> <check reviews>; profit.
[14:16] <ShorTie> don't know what all you are gonna use the usb for, but much more then a low power keyboard and/or mouse, you really need a goood usb powered hub
[14:17] <Mentos> ShorTie: i couldn’t power from my laptop usb?
[14:17] <[Saint]> It likely won't be any better.
[14:17] <ShorTie> i like the Rosewill rhb-500
[14:18] <ShorTie> it's worth a shot, but if it doesn't do any better then it doesn't prove much
[14:18] <[Saint]> If the USB port on the laptop follows spec, it *won't* be any better...but its safe to assume it won't. ;)
[14:18] <ShorTie> the usb spec is only 500ma, and the pi should be feed 700ma atleast
[14:19] <ShorTie> and the poly fuse can pass 1.1 amps for a short time
[14:19] <[Saint]> And even though the USB spec is 500mA, it technically shouldn't give that to anything that doesn't enumerate.
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[14:19] <[Saint]> (ie. raspi)
[14:19] <Mentos> i see
[14:20] <[Saint]> If there's a pawn shop or second hand store near you, they almost certainly have a huge box of assorted PSUs and chargers etc.
[14:20] <[Saint]> Literally every store of the type in my area has a similar box of crap for free.
[14:20] <ShorTie> so with that 1000ma supply, the pi can over draw it causing voltage drop and brown outs that cause file corruption
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[14:23] <Mentos> ShorTie: which power supply are you referring to?
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[14:25] <ShorTie> that adafruit 1 or any other 1amp supply really
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[14:26] <Mentos> ShorTie: say i get a 2amp psu and i find i have the same issue, what do you think i should test next?
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[14:27] <ShorTie> supply wire size
[14:27] <Mentos> anything on the board i should look for?
[14:28] <lee> I am inordinately happy that I have made a network accessible IR remote control :D
[14:28] <Mentos> anything beyond the tp1-tp2 and tp2-f3 tests?
[14:28] <ShorTie> na, nothing on the pi it's self is causing problems, imho
[14:29] <Mentos> ShorTie: k thanks
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[14:29] <[Saint]> lee: network accessible? Your neighbors might be happy too. ;)
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[14:30] <lee> well, it's all hard-coded and hacky, but it works
[14:31] <ShorTie> what, you think his nieghbor might change the channel just when getting to the good part of the movie
[14:31] <lee> I have Sky box > HDMI splitter > 15m HDMI cable to tv upstairs, need a way to control the Sky box
[14:31] <Mentos> ShorTie: replaced the micro power cable with the exact same model i had from another usb charger and i gained .10 v :P
[14:31] <Mentos> im up to 4.95v now
[14:32] <lee> the IR blaster that came with the TV is just goddamn awful, slow, probably at the range of the bluetooth reach, and the UI makes me want to tear hair out
[14:32] <ShorTie> ya, those cables are a hit-n-miss on getting a gooood 1
[14:32] <vector-> Afternoon people :-) I've built qemu from source (mingw) and it launches fine, but whenever I try to start it, it crashes at runtime with no error message. Any ideas on how to track down the issue?
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[14:34] <ShorTie> have you looked in syslog or dmesg, or are you going by just the console output
[14:35] <[Saint]> Hahahaha
[14:35] <[Saint]> SSID: TRY_IT_I_DARE_U; Security: WPS (WPS Enabled)
[14:35] <[Saint]> *WPA
[14:35] <[Saint]> Challenge accepted...
[14:36] <ShorTie> hehe, nice, i got a 'connect for a free virus' ssid
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[14:37] <lee> what an excellent idea
[14:38] * [Saint] has an upsidedownternet AP
[14:38] <vector-> Where can I find the syslog on mingw? -.^
[14:38] <[Saint]> And a "changes every image to kittens" AP
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[14:39] <ShorTie> syslog and others are in /var/log
[14:39] <[Saint]> It pleases me greatly to know I'm not the only one with a honeypot AP.
[14:40] <ShorTie> messages might be another 1 to gander at
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[14:40] <vector-> That folder does not exist
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[14:40] <[Saint]> Wait...wha?
[14:41] <[Saint]> /var/log/ doesn't exist?
[14:41] <ShorTie> oh really, i thought it was a linux defualt
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[14:41] <[Saint]> Its definitely a debianism, at least.
[14:41] <vector-> It is as far as I know, not sure what mingw does
[14:41] <vector-> :-/
[14:41] <ShorTie> unless your runnin some form of a os that doesn't log
[14:41] <[Saint]> What is the host?
[14:41] <[Saint]> *host OS
[14:42] <vector-> "Mingw" :)
[14:42] <vector-> Windows
[14:43] <ShorTie> hmmm, /var/log would be on the pi, not another pc
[14:43] * [Saint] would need to have touched a Windows machine this decade to qualify to answer this
[14:43] <ShorTie> well for any stuff pi related that is
[14:44] <vector-> Uhm
[14:44] <ShorTie> if your using windows, get winscp, it's great for working on linux pc's from windows
[14:45] <vector-> The problem is Qemu emulating the Pi on Windows, and it doesn't boot properly
[14:45] <ShorTie> winscp and putty are the windows apt for workin on linux pc's thru the network
[14:46] <vector-> I think you may be misunderstanding, I'm not working on Linux pcs at all, pure Windows, running Qemu
[14:46] <ShorTie> lol, if your trying to emulate the pi in/on windows, it hard to say what it might be
[14:46] <vector-> But under Mingw
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[14:47] <vector-> ShorTie, I realise that, that's why I'm interesting in techniques for figuring out the issue, as opposed to asking what the issue is :)
[14:47] <vector-> interesting = interested*
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[14:48] <ShorTie> like i said, the contents of /var/log tells all normally
[14:49] <vector-> Like I said, that folder doesn't seem to exist in mingw :(
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[14:51] <ShorTie> sorry, i'm not much into emulation or cross compiling
[14:51] <ShorTie> i only run the real thing, and leave it alone if it is gonna take a day to compile a new kernel or such .. :/~
[14:53] <ShorTie> starting with Gentoo, you learn to be patent while compiling, lol.
[14:53] <vector-> Doing some kernel dev, figured it might be useful with Qemu for debugging purposes
[14:55] <ShorTie> your compile or dev might be ok, but i would think the only true test is to stick it on a real pi to see what happens, imho
[14:55] <vector-> That's a different topic all together IMO
[14:56] <vector-> Reason I wanted to try Qemu is because I don't have a hardware debugger
[14:56] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[14:57] <vector-> So you stick it on the Pi, it doesn't work. The system does absolutely nothing. Why? No one knows. This is where a debugger is useful
[14:58] <ShorTie> it's all in the fun of playing
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[14:58] <ShorTie> i think Linux is the #1 reason for hair lose
[14:58] <ZinovaS> :D
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[15:00] <ShorTie> so this is star war day
[15:01] <ShorTie> May the 4th be with you
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[17:47] <HD|Laptop> hi all
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[17:47] <HD|Laptop> i've used hexxehs rpi-update script but it did not install kernel headers
[17:47] <HD|Laptop> where can one get them?
[17:47] <HD|Laptop> i'm on raspbian wheezy
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[18:20] <gordonDrogon> afternoon, oh great group of starwars day followers...
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[18:21] <Encrypt> o/ gordonDrogon :)
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[18:35] <shivers> That must be an amerian thing. :)
[18:35] <shivers> A star wars day. :)
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[18:40] <gordonDrogon> shivers, May the 4th be with you...
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> etc.
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[18:44] <shivers> heh
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[18:46] <nerdboy> did i miss something?
[18:46] * nerdboy frequently misses talk like a pirate day...
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[18:49] * ShorTie thinkz he found a new adventure to take waiting on his boards to come
[18:49] <ShorTie> anyone ever mess with LinuxCNC ??
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[18:52] <shivers> Never heard of LinuxCNC
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[19:15] <gordonDrogon> I've heard of it - chatted to some people wanting to use it some time back, but not used it myself.
[19:16] * nerdboy got a tour of a nice maker space with some CNC tools and what-not
[19:16] <nerdboy> apparently it's a franchise even
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[19:50] <justaguy> put raspbian testing (jessie) on my pi :p
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[20:33] <ak5> hi, anyone know a lightweight ppt viewer I can put on a raspberry pi
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[20:36] <ak5> I don't want to put the whole libreoffice if I can avoid it
[20:39] <shiftplusone> ppt might not be the way to go
[20:40] <shiftplusone> but if there's no choice, then I am 90% sure there are no lightweight ppt viewers.
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[20:47] <ak5> I see, ok
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[20:47] <ak5> I guess I can make a mp4 or something out of the presentation
[20:47] <ak5> what else do you suggest?
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[20:49] <shiftplusone> are the transitions/animations important?
[20:49] <shiftplusone> someone was asking the same question earlier and I think they settled on a video played using omxplayer.
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[20:56] <ak5> ok sounds good
[20:56] <ak5> is mp4 the best format to use?
[20:56] <ak5> the animations are definitely not important
[20:56] <ak5> I also don't use embedded websites/videos
[20:56] <shiftplusone> if animations are not important, then a pdf works well for slideshows.
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[20:57] <shiftplusone> as far as the codec goes though, h264 works best.
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[20:58] <ak5> shiftplusone: can I autotransition between pdf pages some way?
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[20:58] * Xark hopes Adobe doesn't add animation to PDFs anytime soon. :)
[20:58] <ak5> nono, I don't mean animations, I mean just cycle between pages
[20:59] <ak5> so on the pdf reader side I guess
[20:59] <shiftplusone> not sure what you mean by autotransition, but many pdf viewers have a presentation mode.
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[20:59] <shiftplusone> so I guess whether it supports adjustable timing and such, is up to the viewer itself.
[20:59] <ak5> hm, ok, I will check xpdf and other lightweight ones
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[21:04] <shiftplusone> ak5, do you know any C?
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[21:09] <shiftplusone> I ask since MuPDF is light and easy to use, their example viewer could be easily modified if it doesn't do what you need, if you know C. The wikipedia page says there's support for transitions and such, so maybe it's already capable of doing what you want.
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[21:15] <Sturek> Hello! I have a big problem with my Pi. I use it to run an nginx webserver with Baikal CalDAV server and Seafile server. Everything is working well, but every couple of days it just stops responding. Can’t access calendars, can’t acess html (nginx does serve a 404 message) or log in via ssh (connection refused). I need to disconnect the power to restart and then it works again for a couple of days. Does anyone have an idea what I co
[21:15] <Sturek> try?
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[21:23] <shiftplusone> Sturek, do you have a multimeter?
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[21:26] <Sturek> sorry, my IRC client crashd
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[21:26] <shiftplusone> Sturek, do you have a multimeter?
[21:26] <Sturek> I do have a multimeter somewhere, do you think it’s the power supply?
[21:26] <shiftplusone> I don't know, but it's the first thing to check
[21:27] <Sturek> I also have another power supply I could try, but it did work for several weeks beforehand
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[21:27] <Sturek> Unfortunately, as it only happens every couple of days, I
[21:27] <Sturek> am not sure what I changed at the point where it started going bad
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[21:28] <Sturek> So, checking the power supply, what should I be lookign for?
[21:28] <shiftplusone> measure the voltage between tp1 and tp2 on the pi
[21:29] <shiftplusone> if it's below 4.7ish, there might be a problem.
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[21:30] <Sturek> okay, I’ll go looking for my multimeter, brb
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[21:34] <ak5> shiftplusone: hey this is good stuff, I can hack some C
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[21:42] <Sturek> it appers my multimeter does not work properly… I got 11 something Volts, but measuring an AA battery also produces 4 Volts instead of 1.5… Maybe I’m doing something wrong...
[21:42] <shiftplusone> meters tend to read high when the batteries are going flat.
[21:43] <Sturek> Ah okay, I’ll try a new one
[21:44] <Sturek> Still reads 4V…. :/ Battery fresh out of the package
[21:44] <ShadowJK> Which battery is fresh out of the package?
[21:45] <Sturek> I tried measuring the voltage on an AAA battery because I got a weird reading from my Pi, looks like my multimeter is broken
[21:45] <ShadowJK> Don't evade the question
[21:46] <Sturek> Sorry, I don’t follow...
[21:46] <Sturek> I’ll try the other power supply I have and see if it is more stable, thanks a lot for your help so far!
[21:46] <ShadowJK> There are two batteries. You have a fresh AAA battery, which you have measured as showing 4 Volts. Then there is the battery which is inside your multimeter. Is this also fresh?
[21:46] <ShadowJK> Typically a 9V battery in multimeters
[21:47] <ShadowJK> and when it runs low, meters start showing funny stuff for everything measured.
[21:47] <Sturek> Ah, okay, I think it is fresh, I gotta admit that it’s the first time I’ve used the multimeter, got it recently (it is old, though)
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[21:51] <Sturek> hmm, it’s actually an AA 1.5V regular battery
[21:51] <ShadowJK> rare :)
[21:52] <Sturek> ‚Really old, it’s analog, too
[21:52] <ShadowJK> In that case you might be reading the scale wrong
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[21:54] <Sturek> Yeah, I though about that, but I’m pretty sure I’m reading it correctly, besides none of the other possibilities make sense either (20, 100) the rest of the scales are clearly labled Ohm or dB
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[21:56] <Sturek> It still reads 4V on a fresh AAA battery… :/
[21:56] <Sturek> I guess I should get a new one, digital is more convenient anyway
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[22:08] <Sturek> I ordered a new one and will be back with what I find, thanks for everybody’s help!
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[22:10] <shiftplusone> if you ordered another cheap multimeter, how will you know it's accurate?
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[22:11] <ak5> does anyone know why the raspberry pi can't use the full 27" display?
[22:11] <shiftplusone> eh?
[22:11] <shiftplusone> who says?
[22:11] <ak5> yeah it's centered for some reason
[22:11] <shiftplusone> overscan?
[22:12] <oldtopman> ak5: Running at a lower resolution than 1080p?
[22:12] <Sturek> The one I just tried is probably 30 years old, I’m guessing it’s just broken and I tried to find one with good reviews, can’t really afford an expensive multimeter right now….
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[22:13] <ak5> I tried to use the monitor tool, but it only has one resolution
[22:13] <shiftplusone> ak5, is this what you're seeing? http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/debian/debian-security/
[22:13] <ak5> shiftplusone: huh? no. I am in raspian desktop
[22:13] <shiftplusone> .....
[22:13] <shiftplusone> okay
[22:13] <shiftplusone> try disable_overscan=1 in config.txt
[22:13] <oldtopman> ak5: If you find a solution, do let me know.
[22:14] <shiftplusone> oh, I am an idiot... pasted the wrong link
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[22:15] <shiftplusone> http://img.techpowerup.org/101110/underscan.jpg
[22:15] <shiftplusone> For a second there, I thought YOU were the idiot D= (sorry). But yeah, try disabling overscan.
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[22:17] <shiftplusone> ak51, any luck with disable_overscan?
[22:17] <shiftplusone> in case your connection dropped, I pasted the wrong link http://img.techpowerup.org/101110/underscan.jpg
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[22:20] <ak51> shiftplusone: ah thanks
[22:20] <shiftplusone> it worked?
[22:20] <ak51> I am having some issues with hotel wifi atm
[22:20] <ak51> will let you know if that workds
[22:21] <shiftplusone> did you get the full message? That disable_overscan=1 goes in config.txt.
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[22:29] <ak51> shiftplusone: works like a charm, thanks
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[22:29] <shiftplusone> awesome
[22:29] <shiftplusone> oldtopman, ^
[22:29] <oldtopman> shiftplusone: I see, thanks.
[22:29] <oldtopman> Doesn't make much sense to have overscan on a 1080p display though :/
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[22:30] <oldtopman> Besides, I need it for my CRT displays. Is there a way to ask for overscan just for the one?
[22:30] <shiftplusone> none that I know of
[22:30] <Adya> Nope
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[22:31] <oldtopman> :c
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[22:44] <ak51> hm weird out of the box this raspberry pi has everything set up for UK users
[22:46] <shiftplusone> yup
[22:46] <ShorTie> maybe cause the pi's home is in the uk ??
[22:46] <ak51> wonder why I didn't see a locale switcher in the setup tool
[22:46] <shiftplusone> it's there
[22:46] <ak51> all in all though I gotta say, this thing is loads of fun
[22:46] <Jeebiss> i missed the locale switcher the first time through also
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[22:49] <ak51> so I can play hidef video off this thing?
[22:50] <ak51> GoT is coming out tonight :D
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[23:19] <AHemlocksLie> Has anyone here installed FreeBSD on their Pi? I'm trying to install pkg, which doesn't seem to come stock
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