#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-05-12

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[1:00] <rymate1234> my Pi is at 47C
[1:00] <rymate1234> is this bad
[1:01] <Shardvexz> no
[1:01] <Triffid_Hunter> rymate1234: no it's fine. I've read that it will underclock itself at 85°C
[1:01] <Shardvexz> I think it can go up to 80C-ish without problems
[1:01] <Shardvexz> yeah, what Triffid_Hunter said
[1:01] <rymate1234> k
[1:01] <Triffid_Hunter> rymate1234: and most modern silicon can handle up to 125°C (at the silicon in the chip, not case temperature)
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[1:02] <Shardvexz> Fans and heat sinks are really cheap thankfully
[1:02] <Triffid_Hunter> largely unnecessary
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[2:47] <savid> I have a 1TB drive that I'd like to use w/ my rpi to act as NAS to store music and video. Unfortunately the drive is formatedd with NTFS, and has about 160GB of pics on it already. Is the RPI going to struggle with ntfs performance vs ext3/4?
[2:48] <swiss> you're prob gonna struggle with USB2.0 performance before NTFS performance
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[2:48] <savid> ok, so usb2.0 is more of bottleneck you're saying
[2:48] <swiss> most likely
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[5:04] <[Saint]> savid: looking at this from a slightly more lateral view - I understand that your issue is that you don't have enough backup space avoilable in order to move the ~160GB or data that already resides on the disk off it in order to format it.
[5:04] <[Saint]> So, I ask you, why format it at all?
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[5:06] <[Saint]> Simply shrink the NTFS partition by 200GB, add an EXT4 (or whatever) partition to the newly created space, copy the files from the NTFS partition to the EXT* partition, remove the NTFS partition, then expand the EXT* partition, and you're done.
[5:06] <[Saint]> No need to move anything off the drive and you got what you wanted.
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[5:07] <devslash> I installed Raspbian and set up SSH
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[5:07] <[Saint]> savid: parted/gparted is your friend for the above mentioned task.
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[5:08] <devslash> how do i set up access to Xorg over ssh
[5:08] <Triffid_Hunter> devslash: ok, where do you want the program to run, and where do you want it to display its output?
[5:08] <[Saint]> devslash: ask google about "ssh X-11 forwarding"
[5:09] <[Saint]> It will tell you what you need to know.
[5:09] <devslash> ok thanks
[5:09] <[Saint]> A properly structered query almost always will.
[5:09] <Triffid_Hunter> [Saint]: only if he wants to run on the rpi but display locally
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[5:10] <[Saint]> ...then this would still work.
[5:11] <[Saint]> Errr...wait, what? I misparsed that.
[5:11] <[Saint]> There's no "only" here, that I am aware of.
[5:12] <Triffid_Hunter> [Saint]: well there's many usage cases for combining X and ssh.. perhaps he wants the rpi to locally run and display X programs, started from ssh? X-forwarding is completely wrong for that usage case
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[5:13] <Triffid_Hunter> perhaps he wants to access an existing X session on the rpi remotely? in that case, X-forwarding is also wrong, he needs xvnc or similar (xnest?)
[5:14] <Triffid_Hunter> X-forwarding is the correct solution if he wants to run on the rpi but display locally, or conversely run locally but display on the rpi
[5:14] <tom-x> i cheat and install xrdp because then I can connect from the free (and pretty good) microsoft remote desktop app on my iPhone
[5:14] <[Saint]> tom-x: there's a metric buttload of tiny iOS VNC clients
[5:15] <tom-x> I know
[5:15] <tom-x> but the MS RDP one is _quite_ good. I've used some of the free VNC clients and they're mediocre compared
[5:15] <[Saint]> My hatrid of RDP is likely a bit old fashioned...
[5:15] * [Saint] shakes fist
[5:16] <[Saint]> iOS is the limiting factor here.
[5:17] <[Saint]> Were it Android, you'd have excellent VNC clients coming out of your you know what.
[5:17] <tom-x> I'm still trying to connect my rpi to the apple airport extreme USB hard disk. What annoys me most is the command works on my debian wheezy box, with no major changes, but fails on the pi in raspbian _and_ pidora. dmesg is barely helpful.
[5:17] <tom-x> I even tried afpfs-ng, which got interesting because it actually got to (once) where it would list which shares were available, but I couldn't connect to either.
[5:19] <tom-x> Hm gvfs-backend IS installed but the LXDE file picker, PCManPi, doesn't have a way to connect to any of those fancy things
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[5:23] <[Saint]> tom-x: can you connect to "smb://user:passphrase@IP/VOLUME_LABEL/PATH"?
[5:23] <Triffid_Hunter> tom-x: if you're mounting it then you need a fuse program like ntfs-3g
[5:23] <[Saint]> I had to use such a method to set up a friends airport extreme in raspbian.
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[5:25] <[Saint]> I didn't look into it much after getting it working but raspbian and rasbmc were *very* picky about accessing this drive until I fed it everything it (apparently) wanted.
[5:26] <[Saint]> Just trying to connect to "smb://IP/VOLUME_LABEL" ended in tears for all involved.
[5:26] <tom-x> [Saint]: I had been using mount -t cifs -o username=,password=, etc
[5:26] <tom-x> I will try your idea
[5:27] * [Saint] crosses his fingers
[5:27] <tom-x> it worked
[5:27] <tom-x> it asked for a domain and a password (again) but it worked
[5:27] <tom-x> new problem: make this happen automatically on boot
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[5:28] * [Saint] does the "I'm fricken' awesome" dance.
[5:29] <tom-x> also I didn't use the IP because for some reason the airport showed up under Network:/// or whatever, and so I used the name from that (shortened, uses hyphens)
[5:29] <[Saint]> FWIW - I have *no* idea why the raspbian variants seem to be pickier about this that, say, Arch.
[5:29] <[Saint]> *this than
[5:30] <[Saint]> tom-x: for the user, or globally?
[5:30] <[Saint]> re: share mounting
[5:30] <tom-x> globally would be preferred, I'm trying to auto-run something that utilizes information from the airdisk share so that I don't have to run it on the full box (and create all that heat)
[5:31] <tom-x> partly a DLNA server
[5:32] <[Saint]> Make a small script that does simply this and bung it in /etc/init.d/, I guess.
[5:32] <[Saint]> Simplest method I can think of.
[5:33] <[Saint]> If you need it to run earlier, its possible.
[5:33] <[Saint]> But this should suffice.
[5:33] <tom-x> hm, unfortunately the way I did it (and it asked for the password a second time) was by typing it _into_ the address bar of PCManPi
[5:33] <[Saint]> Oh. Errr,...Hmmm.
[5:35] <tom-x> Indeed
[5:35] <tom-x> What had worked on my debian box: https://web.archive.org/web/20131207063135/http://techfuel.net/zblog/blog/view/44 (sorry for archive.org, the site is gone now for some reason)
[5:36] <tom-x> on the pi, it first complains about netdev, so I remove that, then get the fun
[5:36] <tom-x> [ 1738.055037] Status code returned 0xc0000002 NT_STATUS_NOT_IMPLEMENTED
[5:36] <tom-x> [ 1738.062945] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -22
[5:36] <tom-x> [ 1738.071354] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22
[5:36] <Triffid_Hunter> tom-x: mount -t cifs should have a password option that allows you to put a blank password and avoid terminal password input
[5:36] <[Saint]> Does "mount -t smbfs -o username=your_username,password=your_password //remote/location /local/location" fly?
[5:36] <tom-x> mount: unknown filesystem type 'smbfs'
[5:36] <Triffid_Hunter> tom-x: might need a more recent cifs on your rpi then.. it's a kernel module last time I checked, really should be fuse
[5:37] <tom-x> Triffid_Hunter: just did a dist-upgrade to jessie, should be better...
[5:39] <[Saint]> tom-x: you need the smbfs package for this
[5:39] <tom-x> Package smbfs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[5:39] <tom-x> :(
[5:39] <tom-x> cifs-utils is already the newest version.
[5:40] <[Saint]> Oh, seems the renamed it. Cute.
[5:41] <[Saint]> Apparently its "otherosfs" now
[5:41] <[Saint]> Errr, crap.. No, I read that wrong entirely.
[5:41] <[Saint]> freebsd-smbfs seems to be it.
[5:42] <tom-x> E: Unable to locate package freebsd-smbfs
[5:42] <tom-x> hmm
[5:42] <tom-x> maybe smbclient
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[5:43] <[Saint]> Argh.
[5:43] <[Saint]> I failed that entirely.
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[5:44] <[Saint]> cifs-utils seems to have it.
[5:44] <tom-x> Yes, which I have.
[5:44] <tom-x> That's why this is all so bizarre.
[5:45] <[Saint]> <insert_frowny_face_here>
[5:45] <tom-x> I even tried afpfs-ng, which was interesting but didn't get me where I needed to go. At one point it did show the shares on the server, but wouldn't let me connect to them.
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[6:08] <tom-x> ah-ha
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[6:09] <tom-x> well, [Saint], the directory is technically mounted under /run/user/1000/gvfs/(share name here), so an ls in that directory is revealing
[6:09] <tom-x> however I'm not sure what to do with the information in there just yet.
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[9:14] <tom-x> [Saint]: I got it working
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[9:15] <tom-x> [Saint]: in fstab: //192.168.1.1/Share/040Name /media/airdisk cifs username=Irrelevant,password=VolumePassword,rw,secntlm 0 0
[9:15] <tom-x> er, sec=ntlm
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[9:16] <tom-x> I got it to work on the desktop debian and then just stole what was in 'mount' based on the OS's assumptions and that worked
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[9:27] <devslash> has anyone here set up X1Forwarding over ssh?
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[9:32] <slow> re
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[10:00] <tom-x> weird issues with rpi-update, mainly that it replaced itself with an error message: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5136734
[10:02] <tom-x> (fixed it via an apt get purge and then install, but still)
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[11:21] <NGC982> hi
[11:21] <rymate1234> http://i.imgur.com/z1ucO65.png whoops
[11:21] <aton`> hi, i am having problems configuring the wifi. using raspbian, the configuration is: http://paste.debian.net/98963/, http://paste.debian.net/98965/
[11:22] <rymate1234> aton`, is your wifi ssid "myssid"
[11:22] <rymate1234> and is your psk "mypass"
[11:22] <aton`> no, i changed that
[11:22] <rymate1234> oh
[11:22] <aton`> as i dont want to paste my password
[11:22] <rymate1234> then i dunno then
[11:22] <NGC982> Since i overclocked my RPI with the config tool (model B, Raspbian), i have noticed that it does sometimes freeze when maxing out the CPU. I have monitored the temperature (that doesn't exceed 60C at 1GHz), and i cannot seem to find any particular reason for it malfunctioning.
[11:22] <rymate1234> i just loaded the gui to configure wifi
[11:22] <NGC982> What can i do to investigate it further?
[11:22] <aton`> NGC982: what tool did you use?
[11:23] <rymate1234> NGC982, I've never had luck overclocking my Pi to 1 GHz
[11:23] <rymate1234> I keep it at 900 / 950
[11:23] <aton`> hm guy is hard, i only have 2 usb ports, but wifi takes one and keyboard takes one
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[11:23] <aton`> gui*
[11:23] <NGC982> aton`: The top option in raspi-config.
[11:23] <aton`> ah the curses interface
[11:24] <NGC982> rymate1234: I see. It makes a big difference between 950 and 1000?
[11:24] <NGC982> It's a RetroPie machine.
[11:24] <rymate1234> i didnt notice any difference
[11:24] <aton`> NGC982: the top option? here it is 1 Expand Filesystem
[11:24] <rymate1234> apart from the crashing at 1000
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[11:24] <NGC982> aton`: The top (as in the highest overclock value) option in the overclock menu.
[11:25] <NGC982> rymate1234: I see.
[11:25] <rymate1234> aton`, I did manage to use the gui with just a keyboard... somehow
[11:25] <aton`> rymate1234: thanks
[11:25] <aton`> NGC982: gtfo.
[11:25] <ShorTie> you need a good stable 5.00v supply for over clocking, the better the supply the better the expirience you will have, imho
[11:26] <NGC982> aton`: I'm sorry?
[11:26] <rymate1234> ah i just use a cheap argos charger
[11:26] <rymate1234> that might be why i cant hit 1Ghz
[11:26] <ShorTie> most likely
[11:26] <NGC982> ShorTie: I guess i could try a different 5V source. I have a 2,2A mobile phone charger right now. I also have an amperage meter to keep track of the power usage.
[11:27] <ShorTie> you will get a brown out with those under load, cause a reboot
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[11:28] <ShorTie> the quality of your micro usb cable can have a big factor in it too...
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[11:28] <aton`> NGC982: oh lol sorry
[11:28] <aton`> NGC982: big misunderstanding
[11:29] <ShorTie> those thin phone charging cords really don't work very well, to much voltage drop across the cable because the wire is so small
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[11:29] <NGC982> aton`: :--(
[11:29] <rymate1234> why the long face?
[11:29] <ShorTie> actually, i think that is more most peeps problems then any thing
[11:30] <aton`> rymate1234: the wpa_gui tool doesnt work either: when i add the network it says: Failed to enable network in wpa_supplicant configuration
[11:30] <rymate1234> uh
[11:30] <rymate1234> no idea then
[11:30] <rymate1234> o.o
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[11:40] <NGC982> ShorTie: It does not seem to be the error with my setup. GPIO measurement shows 4,98-5,04V at maximum load (1,6A).
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[11:41] <NGC982> Although, it's a power supply and none of them are never alike. I'll try with a similar one, and if the problem remains, i know it's a Raspian issue.
[11:41] <ShorTie> ya, that is real good, great
[11:41] <NGC982> I might have broken it, actually.
[11:42] <NGC982> I did not know about the raspi-config utility until i had fiddled with config.txt..
[11:43] <aton`> http://forum.stmlabs.com/showthread.php?tid=9549 <- this is exactly what i experience (for wpa though)
[11:43] <aton`> where do i get this nl80211 from?
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[12:20] <ShorTie> aton`, have you tried wicd for your wifi, i find wicd-curses is the easiest for wifi
[12:20] <ShorTie> plus it will keep the wifi up as an extra bonus at no cost
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[12:27] <aton`> ShorTie: what do you mean "keep it up"?
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[12:28] <aton`> isnt it supposed to stay up?
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[12:30] <ShorTie> wifi will not always be up, it will go down for yucks and you need something to reconnect so it seems to not go down for yucks
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[12:30] <ShorTie> some peeps make up a script just to do it
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[12:40] <aton`> ShorTie: so thats state of the art 2014?
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[12:43] <aton`> ShorTie: does it mean i have to run wicd-curses all the time?
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[12:44] <ShorTie> i think it will run as a service on start up
[12:44] <ShorTie> you just need to install/configure it is all
[12:45] <aton`> it got the wifi to run, finally
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[12:46] <ShorTie> great, good work
[12:48] <aton`> thanks for the good advice
[12:48] <aton`> advise?
[12:49] <ShorTie> what ever, i surely do not take off for spelling
[12:49] <shiftplusone> I'd advise you, but I don't have any advice to give. (Verb vs noun).... same as affect vs effect
[12:49] <ShorTie> as bad as i am it, lol.
[12:49] <aton`> ah
[12:49] <aton`> thanks for advising us about advice :)
[12:50] <shiftplusone> any time
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[12:50] <aton`> wicd doesnt touch /etc/network/interfaces, does it?
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[12:51] <shiftplusone> no, but you should set up interfaces in a way that doesn't interfere with wicd
[12:52] <aton`> so i guess no wifi at all
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[12:52] <shiftplusone> https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Wicd
[12:53] <ShorTie> which is the defualt /etc/network/interfaces i believe, then let wicd take care of it all for you
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[12:54] <shiftplusone> on the foundation image, the interfaces file is quite fancy
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[12:57] <aton`> if there is an init script for wicd in /etc/init.d/
[12:57] <shiftplusone> there is
[12:57] <aton`> how do i configure that one to start at boot on debian?
[12:57] <shiftplusone> it sets itself up when you install it
[12:58] <shiftplusone> but, 'man update-rc.d'
[12:58] <aton`> ah thanks
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[12:58] <shiftplusone> np
[12:58] <aton`> rc-update in gentoo
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[13:03] <aton`> hm i rebootet, said "starting network connection manager: wicd, wifi was down, i start wicd-curses, wifi goes up immediately
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[13:04] <aton`> perhaps it takes some time
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[13:14] <aton`> yea took a minute
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[13:52] <Rubstep> I want to write an assembler program that does nothing. But when I do this and run it I get a segmentation fault. How do I avoid that?
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[13:53] <Shardvexz> I'm not sure to what extent anyone in here knows assembly :P
[13:54] <Rubstep> Any suggestions as to wher I could find the right channel for that question?
[13:54] <winlu> Rubstep: just post your code ;)
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[13:56] <Rubstep> http://pastebin.com/V6U8d1Np
[13:56] <Shardvexz> @ Rubstep, ##asm
[13:57] <Rubstep> Im just trying to assemble something without a seg fault
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[13:57] <Shardvexz> you could also try ##arm
[13:58] <Rubstep> What is that?
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[13:59] <winlu> Rubstep: you are not defining an entry point for your application
[13:59] <winlu> are you following a tutorial or something?
[13:59] <JabberwockyA19> I'm looking for rasbian jessie image or some way to download all the jessie packages (from another computer) to do an offline dist-upgrade on my pi
[13:59] <winlu> Rubstep: http://thinkingeek.com/2013/01/09/arm-assembler-raspberry-pi-chapter-1/ <- this looks like a good start
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[14:02] <Shardvexz> <Rubstep> What is that? <== Rubstep, ##asm and ##arm are both other rooms/channels, you can join them by typing /join #asm
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[14:03] <Rubstep> Its homework. I tried that code earlier winlu but it wont work for me.
[14:04] <Rubstep> Cheers Sjardvexs, ill try there
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[15:36] <beaky> hello
[15:36] <beaky> how long will 4AA bateries last on the pi
[15:37] <beaky> im using a SEPIC to get the 5v to power the pi
[15:37] <beaky> (btw can i directly power the pi from 3v3)
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[15:37] <IT_Sean> No, you need 5v.
[15:38] <shiftplusone> depends on whether you need usb (including ethernet)
[15:38] <IT_Sean> the 3.3v is derived from a voltage regulator in the 5v rail. You need to supply 5v.
[15:38] <IT_Sean> 5v is required for USB, netowrking, and (i think) HDMI
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[15:39] <beaky> wow the pi uses tons of power ^^
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[15:39] <shiftplusone> it's mostly the hub/lan chip
[15:39] <shiftplusone> well, about a third is.
[15:40] <IT_Sean> And it really doesn't. It uses less than 1A. For what is basically a computer, that's pretty darn low.
[15:41] <shiftplusone> well, it's all relative.
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[15:44] <bosnjak> hi all
[15:44] <beaky> hello bosnjak
[15:44] <bosnjak> im struggling to get my bluetooth headset working. PulseAudio recognized the source and the sink, and i can play audio. I just can't seem to use the microphone. Can someone help with this?
[15:45] <shiftplusone> ah, linux audio issues?
[15:45] * shiftplusone backs aways.
[15:45] <winlu> bosnjak: what distro are you on?
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[15:45] <winlu> Bluez does currently not support Headsets I am afraid if thats whar you are using
[15:46] <winlu> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bluetooth_Headset <- some input on the issue
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[15:46] <bosnjak> winlu: actually its not a headset, its a bluetooth wireless speaker with a built in microphone (which could sum up to the same thing?)
[15:46] <bosnjak> winlu: archlinux-arm
[15:46] <winlu> yeah its the same thing, refer to the wiki page then and good luck :)
[15:47] <bosnjak> winlu: i don't actually need any headset features like buttons, etc, i just need to get the input of the mic
[15:47] <bosnjak> winlu: but ill read up and see what happens
[15:47] <bosnjak> i really do hope there is a way to get bt mic to work with rpi... :/
[15:47] <bosnjak> are there alternatives to bluez?
[15:48] <bosnjak> hm, that reminds me, how come the same device is working on my Xubuntu PC? What is different? Isn't that also bluez
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[16:34] <bosnjak> i don't understand this. says right here: http://www.bluez.org/profiles/ that blueZ supports A2DP. How come my microphone is not working then
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[16:36] <tkonto> hi all, I had asked in the past, about a failing RP... it looked like the known PSU specs issue...
[16:36] <tkonto> I replaced the supply with one with proper specs...
[16:37] <tkonto> then the RP had the same issues... it just kept on reseting
[16:37] <joey8> mmmmmm
[16:37] <tkonto> and then I changed the RP... and it works like a charm...
[16:37] <tkonto> !!!!!
[16:37] <tkonto> problem with the RPi?
[16:38] <joey8> used to - it was the power supply
[16:38] <joey8> changed it and added another for my 12v to supply other modules and hey presto
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[17:17] <mantazer> if im keeping my pi at home as a server, and im ssh'ing into it remotely, is it better that i set my pi to have a static or dynamic ip
[17:18] <mantazer> ?
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[17:20] <thatguyoverthere> Hello, can someone here help me with transistors?
[17:21] <IT_Sean> Just ask your question. If anyone can help, they will.
[17:21] <mgottschlag> mantazer: either static or giving it a static dhcp lease, doesn't matter
[17:21] <mgottschlag> if it changes however ssh might be difficult
[17:22] <mantazer> mgottschlag: oh ok, but this is assuming that the pi doesnt physically move from one network to another right?
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[17:24] <mgottschlag> yes
[17:24] <thatguyoverthere> Thanks. Basically, i can't turn off NPN transistors. I have a LED after the transistor, that glows as long as it's connected to the pi. Wether the pin is HIGH or LOW.
[17:24] <mgottschlag> thatguyoverthere: can you draw your circuit?
[17:25] <thatguyoverthere> mgottschlag: sure, one minute
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[17:39] <thatguyoverthere> So, this is my circuit: http://imgur.com/6oUlYOI
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[17:40] <mgottschlag> 1. that's a pnp transistor, not npn, but that's correct :)
[17:40] <mgottschlag> 2. the difference between the base and 5v will be always at least 1.7V, that's enough to switch the transistor on
[17:41] <mgottschlag> so you either want to hook your LED onto 3.3V instead, or swich low-side with an NPN transistor
[17:41] <pksato> is wrong .
[17:41] <pksato> if is PNP, emiter goes to +
[17:42] <mgottschlag> ah, yeah, I didn't see that
[17:42] <pksato> or, draw is wrong.
[17:42] <pksato> thatguyoverthere: what is code of transistor?
[17:43] <pksato> in is NPN, circuity os wrong too.
[17:43] <thatguyoverthere> pksato: You mean the name? It's BC5568. http://html.alldatasheet.com/html-pdf/2894/MOTOROLA/BC556B/257/1/BC556B.html
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[17:44] <thatguyoverthere> Yeah, it's PNP not NPN, sorry.
[17:44] <pksato> BC556 is PNP.
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[17:45] <pksato> PNP is not good option on use with rpi 3v3 and 5v.
[17:45] <thatguyoverthere> mgottschlag: why 1.7V? Wehre do you get that number from?
[17:45] <pksato> but, led is on?
[17:46] <thatguyoverthere> pksato: LED is on, i can even see a little difference from High and Low, but it is always on.
[17:46] <mgottschlag> thatguyoverthere: the GPIO is 3.3V max, while your supply is 5V
[17:46] <pksato> thatguyoverthere: if remove resistor on base (from gpio) led goes off?
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[17:48] <mgottschlag> thatguyoverthere: (when you remove the resistor, don't create a direct connection without the resistor or you would fry the pi's GPIO
[17:48] <mgottschlag> )
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[17:48] <pksato> remove -> let base open, not connected to any thing.
[17:49] <thatguyoverthere> resistor removed, light is off.
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[17:49] <mgottschlag> yeah, then it is probably that 1.7V difference which already switches the transistor on
[17:50] <thatguyoverthere> so, i need another resistor?
[17:50] <pksato> move emiter to 3v3.
[17:50] <mgottschlag> a resistor cannot solve that problem
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[17:51] <pksato> use NPN transistor. or mosfet channel N.
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[17:52] <thatguyoverthere> No way to do this with PNP?
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[17:52] <pksato> use 3v3 instead 5v.
[17:52] <mgottschlag> or use a couple of diodes between 5V and the transistor
[17:52] <pksato> and, correct you draw, mode emitter to 5v side.
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[17:55] <thatguyoverthere> mgottschlag: how would i do this?
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[17:56] <mgottschlag> what? using diodes to make 5V drop to 3.3V? just use 2-3 diodes in series between 5V and emitter
[17:56] <mgottschlag> every diode makes the voltage drop by around 0.6V
[17:57] <mgottschlag> but really, the easier solution is to just use 3.3V instead of 5V
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[17:57] <mgottschlag> actually, wait
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[17:57] <pksato> if is only to lit led. no need transistor.
[17:57] <mgottschlag> you can use the diodes between the pi's GPIO and the base of the transistor as well, if you absolutely want to supply your LED with 5V
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[17:59] <thatguyoverthere> Actually i want to use this exact same circuit to drive a DC motor, so
[18:00] <mgottschlag> then 5V might be necessary, then put 3 diodes between the transistor's base and the end of the resistor
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[18:01] <mgottschlag> maybe two diodes are enough, I am too lazy for the math right now
[18:01] <mgottschlag> each diode makes the voltage rise by 0.6V
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[18:02] <thatguyoverthere> It works with ONE.
[18:03] <thatguyoverthere> Actually, it's an LED, because i don't have anything else, but still.
[18:04] <mgottschlag> yeah, LEDs have 2V voltage dropoff instead of 0.6V, so an LED is as good as 4 regular diodes
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[18:04] <mgottschlag> 3-4, depending on the color - blue LEDs even have more than 3V voltage dropoff
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[18:05] <mantazer> what does it mean when my static ip address is set to this: Address=('192.168.1.23/24' '192.168.1.87/24')
[18:05] <mgottschlag> (the voltage which is "lost" at the diode is translated directly into the wavelength)
[18:05] <mantazer> why are there multiple addresses there?
[18:05] <mantazer> isnt the whole point of static so that i only have one address?
[18:06] <mgottschlag> mantazer: where did you get/set those IPs?
[18:06] <thatguyoverthere> It's a greenish one.
[18:06] <mantazer> under netctl/examples
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[18:06] <mgottschlag> http://www.oksolar.com/led/led_color_chart.htm <- LED forward voltages
[18:07] <thatguyoverthere> Thanks guys, i was almost giving up. For today at least.
[18:07] <mantazer> mgottschlag: under netctl/examples/ethernet-static
[18:07] <mantazer> mgottschlag: should there only be one address there?
[18:07] <pksato> thatguyoverthere: to safety to RPI, dont use PNP and other volatage that 3v3, to use with hight power or inductive devices like motors.
[18:08] <mgottschlag> using PNP with additional diodes at the base should be perfectly safe
[18:08] <mgottschlag> using it without diodes however could damage your pi
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[18:09] <mgottschlag> but yes, you want to have additional safety measures for your motor as well
[18:10] <thatguyoverthere> The last time i tried something with transistors i have almost fried it, but the polyfuse apparently saved me. Gave me a little heart attack.
[18:10] <pksato> but, make circuity more complex. with NPN need only one resistor at base and load on colector. If load are inductive need a diode in reverse bias.
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[18:12] <thatguyoverthere> The problem for me is, i don't have any NPN's. So using a diode (even if it is an LED) is "less complicated" for me.
[18:12] <mgottschlag> you will need a diode as soon as you add the motor
[18:12] <mgottschlag> a regular diode I mean
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[18:12] <pksato> BC556 it not proper to power motors.
[18:12] <mgottschlag> so at that point you probably should just buy different transistors as well
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[18:14] <thatguyoverthere> Maybe i should. I don't want my pi to release the magic smoke.
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[18:15] <pksato> most of my transistors come from junk.
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[19:54] <rymate1234> well node.js works well on a Pi http://31.48.160.102/
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[20:29] <mantazer> when setting up port forwarding to ssh remotely into my pi, can i just use any port?
[20:29] <mantazer> why is the default port 22?
[20:30] <mantazer> is there a way to change this default port?
[20:32] <rosapoP> http://linuxlookup.com/howto/change_default_ssh_port
[20:32] <pksato> mantazer: se file /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:32] <mantazer> pksato: also, for ssh'ing, right now on my local network all i do is ssh username@hostname
[20:33] <pksato> more that one port can be use
[20:33] <mantazer> sorry, i meant ssh username@<device_ip>
[20:33] <mantazer> how would i do it remotely? like this? username@<router_ip:port>
[20:33] <mantazer> ?
[20:33] <mantazer> or do i leave out the port?
[20:33] <pksato> use -p to change port of ssh client
[20:34] <pksato> or set on /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[20:34] <mantazer> for example, the pi's default port is 22, does that mean that, when i connect to the router, i have to go through the router's port 22? or is this the pi's port 22
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[20:34] <mantazer> sorry im a noob when it comes to sysadmin stuff
[20:35] <pksato> yes
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[20:35] <rymate1234> hey whoever is trying to access php files on my pi running nodejs, not php - HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
[20:35] <mantazer> pksato: ok, so say im on a diff network than my pi, i have to ssh into my router right?
[20:35] <pksato> but, you can set other port to forward to 22
[20:35] <pksato> on router port forward
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[20:38] <mantazer> sorry im not sure i understand. so a router has ports, and each of these ports can have an ip to connect to right? or am i misunderstanding?
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[20:39] <mantazer> pksato: ^
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[20:46] <Squarepy> if you interchange ip with ports that is correct :)
[20:47] <Squarepy> also ip -> single, ports -> multiple
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[20:52] <johanbr> mantazer: you may be confusing port in the sense of "ethernet jack" with port in the sense of "numbered service to which programs connect"
[20:53] <mantazer> johanbr: no, i meant the latter
[20:53] <mantazer> i know the difference
[20:53] <mantazer> johanbr: let me explain my situation
[20:53] <johanbr> ahh, alright... just wanted to make sure
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[20:54] <mantazer> johanbr: so basically, i want to access my pi remotely via ssh. i can already do so on my local network by ssh'ing like this: ssh username@<pi_ip_address>
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[20:54] <mantazer> johanbr: in order to do this remotely, from a different network, i need to allow port forwarding right?
[20:55] <johanbr> mantazer: yes
[20:55] <mantazer> now, this is where my confusion comes in
[20:55] <johanbr> and be very careful with security if you do that - only forward the ports you really need, use strong passwords (or preferably public-key authentication) etc...
[20:56] <mantazer> johanbr: if im on a diff network, trying to ssh into my pi, i have to connect through my router, via a port?
[20:56] <johanbr> yes
[20:56] <mantazer> so it is the router that deals with ports, my pi's ip has no ports?
[20:56] <Squarepy> you would need dyndns
[20:57] <mantazer> i thought all ip's have ports
[20:57] <johanbr> mantazer: well, all TCP and UDP connections have ports
[20:57] <atouk> the ports are the connectors on the left, the starboards are the ones on the right
[20:57] <rymate1234> the pi deals with ports as well
[20:58] <rymate1234> port forwarding just lets you access port 22 on your pi from outside your LAN
[20:58] <johanbr> mantazer: in this case some port on your router's external interface would be forwarded to some port on the Pi inside your LAN
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[20:58] <mantazer> oh isee
[20:58] <tom-x> atouk: hilarious
[20:58] <mantazer> so when i set port forwarding on my router, im setting the port on the external interface right?
[20:58] <atouk> (sorry)
[20:59] <johanbr> mantazer: yes
[20:59] <mantazer> ahh i see.
[20:59] <johanbr> and on the external interface, you may want to pick a port other than 22 (default ssh port)
[20:59] <mantazer> johanbr: how do i know which port is safe to use?
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[21:00] <mrmoney2012> I’ve written up a mini review of the pi on my new website - interested in any feedback, http://www.acekit.co.uk/products/3-raspberry-pi-model-b
[21:00] <johanbr> mantazer: you can use any unused port - you can essentially pick a random number between 1 and 65535
[21:00] <johanbr> not picking 22 on the external interface cuts down on the number of SSH login attempts from botnets
[21:01] <mantazer> ok, and just hope that the port i chose isnt being used?
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[21:01] <SpeedEvil> Pretty much.
[21:01] <atouk> ports have standard uses, eg 80 is http, 22 is ssh, etc
[21:01] <SpeedEvil> What servers ahve you going
[21:01] <johanbr> mantazer: your router will make sure that the port you forward is not used for other traffic
[21:01] <atouk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers
[21:01] <SpeedEvil> If you don't have a specific server, you can use that port
[21:02] <mantazer> thank you all for the info, i appreciate it
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> Thereis no reason ssh can't live onport 80, for example
[21:02] <mantazer> this is really helping me understand
[21:03] <mantazer> so assuming that i forwarded a "good" port, how would i then ssh into the pi remotely? im unfamiliar with the syntax. right now, all i do is ssh username@<ip_of_raspberrypi>. so if i ssh remotely, i would have to ssh into my router, and then the port im forwarding to the pi right?
[21:04] <Squarepy> mantazer, also the outside ip of a router is not well defined, you would need some form of dynamic dns
[21:04] <mantazer> btw, right now, im ssh'ing within the local network
[21:05] <mantazer> Squarepy: oh ok. on my router page, it lists the ip of the router, but youre saying that it constantly changes?
[21:05] <mantazer> or is it not visible externally?
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[21:06] <Squarepy> the outside ip changes and is done by your provider, the internal ip is stable and I assume what you see and go to on your browser
[21:07] <mantazer> oh ok.
[21:08] <Squarepy> http://dyn.com/dns/
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[21:08] <mantazer> Squarepy: so assuming that the outside ip never changes, would the correct syntax for ssh'ing into the pi be: ssh <router's_outside_ip>:<port_that_pi_is_linked_to> ?
[21:08] <rymate1234> https://www.noip.com/ is a free solution
[21:08] <Squarepy> ^^
[21:09] <Squarepy> mantazer, ssh ports are often default, but yes
[21:10] <mantazer> Squarepy: thanks a bunch
[21:10] <rymate1234> any way to test whether my overclock is stable?
[21:10] <Squarepy> with dns that would be domain:port
[21:10] <Squarepy> rymate1234, as in doesn't eat the sd?
[21:11] <rymate1234> yes
[21:11] <mantazer> Squarepy: is there a way to test remote ssh even though im on the local network without having to physically go to another network?
[21:12] <Squarepy> mantazer, vpn?
[21:12] <atouk> try going in via yor wanip, instead of yoru lanip
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[21:13] <Squarepy> rymate1234, what are your settings?
[21:13] <rymate1234> 1GHz
[21:14] <rymate1234> using a high quality apple iPad usb plug adaptor and a high quality usb cable
[21:14] <mantazer> atouk: i did try going through my wan ip: ssh: Could not resolve hostname <router_ip>:<rasppi_port>: nodename nor servname provided, or not known
[21:15] <Squarepy> rymate1234, HG sd?
[21:15] <atouk> use the wan IP, not a hostname
[21:15] <Squarepy> HQ*
[21:15] <rymate1234> it's a sandisk
[21:15] <tom-x> mantazer: http://portforward.com/
[21:15] <rymate1234> class 10
[21:15] <rymate1234> extreme
[21:15] <rymate1234> 16GB
[21:15] <malfunct> yeah, just hit the external IP and if you have port forwarding set up correctly it will work
[21:16] <malfunct> that said I totally appreciate having a domain name set up to point to that IP
[21:16] <atouk> 173.73.173.86:23
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[21:16] <atouk> or 22, or whatever you have the port forwarding set to
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[21:16] <Squarepy> rymate1234, ok, well I do not know of any testing, but afaik you are good, choose congruent mem and gpu clocks though
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[21:17] <rymate1234> with ssh i think you have to specify the port seperate from the IP
[21:17] <rymate1234> so ssh username@ipaddress -p port
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[21:17] <Squarepy> i remember something like that too :)
[21:17] <rymate1234> im helpful yay!
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[21:18] <rymate1234> Squarepy, I'm just performing some intensive tashs
[21:18] <rymate1234> *tasks
[21:19] <mantazer> rymate1234: cool, i think im getting there, but im getting a connection refused
[21:19] <rymate1234> means port forwarding is probably not working then
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[21:20] <mantazer> rymate1234: thats odd, because i remember forwarding the port in my router settings
[21:20] <mantazer> Destination Ports 117 TCP Any -> 117
[21:21] <mantazer> and it says its active
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[21:21] <rymate1234> does it point to your Pi's internal IP?
[21:21] <Squarepy> do you need dmz for that?
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[21:22] <mantazer> rymate1234: ssh mantazer@<my router's external ip> -p 117
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[21:22] <mantazer> rymate1234: i never specified my pi's ip, but i thought that was the point of using a port via my router
[21:22] <rymate1234> the router needs to know where to forward to into the internal network
[21:23] <rymate1234> it's forwarding the port from the router to a specific device on the network
[21:23] <mantazer> isn't that what the -p port specifies?
[21:23] <rymate1234> it needs to know what that device is
[21:23] <rymate1234> i.e. your pi
[21:23] <Squarepy> indeed
[21:23] <Squarepy> what router model?
[21:23] <rymate1234> no because multiple devices can be on port 117 in the same network
[21:23] <mantazer> actiontec
[21:23] <Squarepy> and type?
[21:24] <mantazer> MI424WR
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[21:25] <mantazer> rymate1234: so in the ssh command i have to specify the router, the pi's internal ip, and the port?
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[21:25] <rymate1234> no
[21:26] <rymate1234> in the router settings for port forwarding you specify the Pi's IP
[21:26] <mantazer> im confused. thanks for putting up with me
[21:26] <mantazer> rymate1234: i did that
[21:26] <mantazer> i specified the pi's ip, and gave it port 117
[21:26] <rymate1234> can you maybe screenshot the settings panel on your router?
[21:27] <rymate1234> also is ssh running on port 117
[21:27] <mantazer> sure
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[21:27] <mantazer> rymate1234: how do i enable ssh to run on port 117?
[21:27] <rymate1234> i dunno
[21:27] <rymate1234> you could just keep it on the default ssh port
[21:27] <rymate1234> (22 by default)
[21:28] <mantazer> which is 22 i believe
[21:28] <rymate1234> yes
[21:28] <rymate1234> so you would need to port forward port 22
[21:29] <Squarepy> chapter 6.4 http://support.actiontec.com/doc_files/MI424WR_Rev._E&F_User_Manual_20.10.7_v1_GPL.pdf
[21:29] <rymate1234> and then it should work!
[21:29] <mantazer> i think i did it
[21:29] <mantazer> i used port 22 and it worked!
[21:29] <rymate1234> yay!
[21:29] <Squarepy> nice
[21:29] <mantazer> but someone recommended that i dont use 22
[21:29] <mantazer> thanks a lot guys
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[21:30] <mantazer> im such a noob but this is helping me learn a lot
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[21:30] <Squarepy> as long as you do not kill the internets mantazer :)
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[21:30] <rymate1234> well ssh on port 22 can be a security risk as it means it's slighty easier for a hacker to access your Pi
[21:30] <mantazer> lol
[21:31] <mantazer> oh i see
[21:31] <rymate1234> although to be honest it will probably take about 5 seconds for a hacker to use a port scanner to find all ports the Pi uses
[21:31] <tom-x> technically the best way to secure it is to use ssh public keys
[21:31] <mantazer> and even after that, he'll need to know my password right?
[21:32] <ppq> using another port is a good idea anyway. keeps your /var/log/auth.log from growing fast.
[21:32] <Squarepy> indeed, and disable the password, or make it 20 char +
[21:32] <IT_Sean> Know it, or bruteforce / guess it.
[21:32] <rymate1234> using mpd to stream music across my network there's about 30 seconds lag :(
[21:32] <ppq> fail2ban is a good solution, too
[21:33] <Encrypt> Fail2ban \o/
[21:33] <Encrypt> With the fail2ban-recidivist jail \o/
[21:33] <rymate1234> what does that do?
[21:33] <Encrypt> It's a custom jail
[21:34] <ppq> rymate1234, <n> failed authentications will result in temporary bans for that ip
[21:34] <rymate1234> ah
[21:34] <rymate1234> so stops basic brute force attacks
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[21:34] <ppq> yes
[21:34] <Encrypt> rymate1234, http://pastebin.com/mrYCE5H5
[21:35] <Squarepy> rymate1234, so is that your router's bandwidth?
[21:35] <Encrypt> ppq also
[21:35] <rymate1234> Squarepy, ?
[21:35] <rymate1234> oh
[21:36] <rymate1234> i think a lot of the extra lag was introduced when my pi was struggling to install some stuff whilst streaming
[21:36] <rymate1234> restarting the stream there's only 6 seconds now
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[21:36] <Squarepy> enough to grab a beer
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[22:22] <mantazer> in your opinion, would you run python 2 or python 3 on your pi?
[22:22] <mantazer> i know its a legacy vs present but im just curious
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[22:25] <winlu> its not legacy vs present
[22:25] <winlu> python2 is very different from python3
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[22:32] <mantazer> does anyone know how raspberry pi's memory is partitioned?
[22:32] <mantazer> it main memory the SD card?
[22:32] <mantazer> sorry, i meant virtual memory
[22:32] <mantazer> i.e the disk
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[22:35] <linuxstb> mantazer: swap can be configured to be anyway. But yes, normally it will be on the SD card (if there is any at all).
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[23:27] <tom-x> I'm using tightvnc (I think) as a vnc server and it's sooo slow. I'm only doing 1024x768 too. The CPU graph on lxde doesn't look outrageous, so I'm not sure what's going on
[23:28] <tom-x> bah, top puts the load average at 5. Nevermind. A lot of it is cifsd, lol.
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