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IRC Log for 2014-05-18

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[0:34] <pksato> Breadboards & Perfboards http://youtu.be/w0c3t0fJhXU
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[0:47] <groundnuty> in git
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[2:08] <skywalk> hey, anyone did the jasper project?
[2:09] <skywalk> i have this rpi that i connect via ssh, i use usb wifi small adapter for network, but it seems it goes idle or hibernation if i dont use it, any way to prevent this?
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[2:11] <gaspard> where can I find a minimal rasbpian image (with only ssh and aptitude) ?
[2:12] <gaspard> by ssh i mean openssh server
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[2:30] <LadySerena> "ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), not stripped" <-- is this correct when building for raspi?
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[3:09] <azizLIGHTS> i have an old raspbian image installed, how do i go about upgrading to the newest and latest?
[3:10] <azizLIGHTS> do i have to do everything all over
[3:10] <azizLIGHTS> is there a simpler way
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[3:10] <azizLIGHTS> i have everything backed up
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[3:19] <azizLIGHTS> do i do apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade or both
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[3:24] <skywalk> i have this rpi that i connect via ssh, i use usb wifi small adapter for network, but it seems it goes idle or hibernation if i dont use it, any way to prevent this?
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[3:26] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to set up a raspbian build environment using qemu-arm-static. I can't seem to find the correct binfmt_misc magic to work with the latest raspian. Has anyone had any experience with this?
[3:28] <plugwash> The debian package binfmt-support sets up the binfmt magic
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[3:28] <plugwash> also note that you need to copy the qemu-arm-static binary into the chroot or it won't be found
[3:29] <[Saint]> azizLIGHTS: both is fine
[3:29] <[Saint]> (ask Google about the differences between the two)
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[3:35] <azizLIGHTS> which one is the one we're not supposed to do
[3:35] <azizLIGHTS> rpi-update?
[3:36] <azizLIGHTS> not supposed to do if we dont know what we're doing
[3:36] <rosapoP> run both
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[3:37] <azizLIGHTS> do i also run rpi-update?
[3:38] <azizLIGHTS> i have a lot of upgrades to do so its making me nervous
[3:38] <azizLIGHTS> 131 packages
[3:38] <azizLIGHTS> when i do sudo apt-get upgrade
[3:38] <azizLIGHTS> 2 not upgraded (why?)
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[3:39] <rosapoP> if you are scared backup things
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[3:40] <rosapoP> then
[3:40] <azizLIGHTS> ok
[3:40] <rosapoP> apt-get update
[3:40] <rosapoP> apt-get upgrade
[3:40] <rosapoP> rpi-update
[3:41] <[Saint]> rpi-update just does kernel and firmware, which dist-upgrade should pull in anyway.
[3:41] <[Saint]> rpi-update is only really useful (IMO) if you want to jump to the 'next' kernel revision.
[3:41] <[Saint]> Which, Average Joe, doesn't want to do.
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[3:42] <[Saint]> It would be a lot easier if rpi-update died and raspbian had packages for this like Arch.
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[3:44] <rosapoP> it would be alot easier if it was a closed source system that only responded "tofu" to the "a" key.
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[3:46] <[Saint]> I....what?
[3:46] <rosapoP> exactly
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[3:49] <azizLIGHTS> [Saint]: ah ok, thats what i had vaguely remembered about rpi-update
[3:51] <[Saint]> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade should bring you in line with the current release as long as there aren't any weird dependencies or pinned packages holding things back.
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[3:51] <[Saint]> *apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
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[4:02] * [Saint] is building an answer to Sansumg's 'Extreme Power Saving Mode'.
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[4:03] <[Saint]> I had a look at their demo, and its really not as interesting as I thought it would be. Predict various clones of this functionality to pop up for arbitrary devices and/or a device-agnostic solution very soon.
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[4:07] * nerdboy got an udoo
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[4:07] <nerdboy> mostly to build gentoo-pi faster, plus distcc/packages
[4:09] <[Saint]> That seems like overkill specifically for that task.
[4:09] <[Saint]> I hope that's not the only reason you got it.
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[4:20] <plugwash> nerdboy, why the udoo?
[4:20] <plugwash> did you want it for something else as well? if it's purely as a buildbox then there are better boards out there.
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[4:21] <[Saint]> or make use of one of the bajillions of refurbed office desktops out there.
[4:22] <[Saint]> Doesn't need to be the native arch in question.
[4:22] <[Saint]> I agree though - if you /also/ wanted it for something else...
[4:24] <plugwash> well I mean if you want to build native
[4:24] <plugwash> the trouble with the udoo is it only has 1GB of ram
[4:24] <plugwash> trust me you want more if you don't want your webkit build times to be measured in days
[4:24] <nerdboy> this one has 2 i thought
[4:24] <nerdboy> quad core
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[4:25] <nerdboy> webkit takes a while, but distcc
[4:26] <plugwash> According to http://shop.udoo.org/eu/product/udoo-quad.html the udoo quad only has 1GB of ram
[4:26] <nerdboy> webkit can kill my 8 core amd build box if i'm not careful...
[4:26] <plugwash> iirc the problem with webkit is not so much the compiling but the linking
[4:26] <[Saint]> Yep.
[4:26] <nerdboy> yup
[4:26] <plugwash> and iirc discc doesn't do anything to help with linking
[4:26] <[Saint]> Double yup.
[4:27] <[Saint]> But - you got a fancy toy.
[4:27] <[Saint]> So, there's that.
[4:27] <nerdboy> still, builds on trimslice it'll build on udoo
[4:27] <nerdboy> just way faster...
[4:28] <[Saint]> I think what we're trying to say is: Yes, this works for your use case, just, but it is very far from being the ideal choice
[4:28] <nerdboy> yeah, neither is my amd build box
[4:28] <plugwash> [Saint], well the main thing is the ram, udoo has 1GB, other similarlly priced imx6q devices come with 2GB
[4:29] <nerdboy> works good enough
[4:29] <nerdboy> got one on order, but seem like only the udoo was in stock now
[4:30] <nerdboy> and some people want a lot of dough for a used board...
[4:30] <plugwash> got what on order?
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[4:31] <nerdboy> panda
[4:32] <nerdboy> actually i need to look at the order, need to check
[4:33] <plugwash> umm the panda is ancient..............
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[4:36] <nerdboy> ah, wandaboard
[4:38] <nerdboy> if/when i get the wanda, i can find something else for the udoo
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[12:13] <Shtl> Any suitable RTOSes out for Raspberrypi????
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[12:16] <shiftplusone> Strictly speaking, I think not.
[12:16] <shiftplusone> The hardware doesn't allow 100% RTOS
[12:16] <Shtl> ok
[12:17] <oldskirt> shiftplusone: what's holding it back?
[12:17] <shiftplusone> oldskirt, the GPU can randomly delay things a bit.
[12:17] <shiftplusone> I don't know the specifics though
[12:18] <Shtl> Any other alternate boards in range of Raspi's Price suitable to test RTOS?
[12:19] <winlu> http://store.atmel.com/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:10500051#tc:description
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[12:19] <winlu> is the goto one I think
[12:19] <shiftplusone> I'm not sure AVR is in the same ballpark.
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[12:19] <winlu> of course it isnt
[12:19] <winlu> but if you want rt why not go microcontroller?
[12:20] <shiftplusone> I think it really depends on the application.
[12:20] <shiftplusone> Without more information, there's probably not much to say here.
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[12:21] <winlu> well you are probably right
[12:21] <shiftplusone> but.... I'd suggest looking at the STM32 F4, which works great with FreeRTOS, but isn't anywhere near as powerful as a pi.
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[12:31] <oldskirt> shiftplusone: do you have any links for that GPU delay thing? can only find stuff on delay when communicating with the GPU
[12:33] <shiftplusone> sec, lemme look around.
[12:33] <shiftplusone> phire, would you happen to know off the top of your head?
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[12:38] <shiftplusone> Nope, I'm not seeing anything, but keep an eye out for mgottschlag, he should know.
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[12:40] <oldskirt> will do
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[12:41] <shiftplusone> What jamesh says on the forum seems to conflict
[12:42] <shiftplusone> ah, there we go
[12:42] <shiftplusone> mgottschlag, hello sir.
[12:43] <shiftplusone> mgottschlag, is there anything in the GPU and firmware which prevents a hard realtime os? I was under the impression that the GPU can cause a bit of jitter here and there as it does 'stuff'.
[12:47] <phire> hmm
[12:47] <mgottschlag> so, I don't kn
[12:47] <mgottschlag> oops
[12:47] <mgottschlag> I don't really know the details about interrupt handling and bus contention
[12:47] <phire> the gpu does quite a lot of stuff.
[12:48] <mgottschlag> you need interrupts to be serviced directly by the arm core, with no relay code in the GPU, and the GPU OS must not cause excessive bus contention and delays
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[12:49] <mgottschlag> but then, the GPU operating system iirc is designed for hard realtime as well, so as long as you don't give it anything to do, it shouldn't cause your realtime operating system to be slowed down
[12:50] <mgottschlag> now, if you want to prove hard-realtime capabilities, you will have to use a different platform, and I wouldn't use this if any unmet deadline causes a lot of damage
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[12:50] <phire> the gpu does housekeeping in the background
[12:50] <phire> things like defragmenting ram
[12:51] <mgottschlag> but the main reason why that can affect performance is bus contention
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[12:51] <phire> especially since they share a cache
[12:52] <phire> activity on one core can evict things from the cache of the other core
[12:52] <mgottschlag> ah, yeah, the cache is a problem indeed
[12:52] <mgottschlag> but the L2 cache is disabled by default for the ARM core
[12:52] <mgottschlag> and L1 cache alone is good enough for reasonable performance
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[12:52] <phire> I thought it was now enabled by default?
[12:53] <mgottschlag> well, okay, then one would have to disable it, that's still possible
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[12:53] <mgottschlag> disabling caches is not exactly rare among realtime software
[12:53] <phire> Ofcouse, if you didn't care about video/audio output, you could just crash the videocore os
[12:53] <phire> then it wouldn't interfere with you
[12:54] <mgottschlag> however, I think the easier route is to get that TI CPU with a realtime coprocessor instead :)
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[12:54] <phire> How realtime are we talking about?
[12:55] <mgottschlag> very good question.
[12:55] <shiftplusone> I think the guy who asked stopped caring a while back. But at least, I'll have a better answer for next time.
[12:56] <phire> There is no way the pi could do cycle accurate, the design of the arm pipeline precludes that by design
[12:56] <phire> realtime basically means: There is a delay, but we know what that delay is ahead of time
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[13:09] <oldskirt> mgottschlag, phire: where can one find this info? is this all buried in some 600+ pages pdf?
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[13:12] * shiftplusone thinks it's buried in experience.
[13:12] <shiftplusone> They wish there was a 600+ page pdf >_<
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[13:21] <mgottschlag> general computer science knowledge, combined with information about buses/caches from that bcm2835 peripherals PDF
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[13:22] <phire> and educated guesses
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[13:24] <oldskirt> ah, only 200+ pages
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, from what I understand, the GPU stalls the ARM memory system periodically for dram & video refresh. I think that's the main source of jitter in the ARM side of things.
[13:26] <gordonDrogon> you really need a system with static ram to start with.
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[13:29] <shiftplusone> hm
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[13:33] <mgottschlag> well, dram refresh is not always a problem except for cycle-accurate realtime
[13:33] <mgottschlag> video refresh bus contention is more difficult
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[13:39] <atouk> use dual port memory
[13:40] <gordonDrogon> we're talking about the pi here - or are you designing a new system?
[13:41] <mgottschlag> everything really depends on the specific problem, as always with realtime problems :)
[13:41] <gordonDrogon> personally I'd rather use small processing units to offline the real-time stuff to and use the Pi (etc.) as an overall controller, but I may be biased as that was what a large part of my studies was about :)
[13:42] <mgottschlag> I really want to try the beaglebone black one day, exactly for that realtime core
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[13:47] <gordonDrogon> I have one ... just not enough hours in the day to play with it...
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[14:05] <dominuskernel> hello everybody
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[14:13] <shiftplusone> hi
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[15:39] <serb> hy im having problems
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[15:39] <serb> im on arch linux arm on a model b rasp pi. previously iv managed to run xbmc --from-- arch linux
[15:40] <serb> but now it doesnt work
[15:40] <serb> after i run xbmc from a terminal screen goes back for about 5 minutes then it turns white. nothing happens
[15:40] <shiftplusone> I've seen another arch user report the same problem
[15:40] <shiftplusone> try #archlinux-arm
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[15:48] <serb> im getting wild vc_cna_alloc_chunks errors
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[15:48] <serb> "bad SPARSEMEM configuration?"
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[16:01] <orst3n> i only got a logitech 700 keyboard connected to the pi and got rare undervolting issues with openelec
[16:01] <orst3n> waht could cause this problem ?
[16:01] <orst3n> got the pi connected trough a 3a connector..
[16:01] <orst3n> should be enough, + it was sold like "specially made for pi"
[16:02] <[Saint]> Many things claim to be.
[16:02] <[Saint]> Its an effective way of milking a premium from consumers.
[16:02] <[Saint]> Its usually a blatant lie.
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[16:04] <[Saint]> Generally speaking "for raspberry pi" seems to equate to "+20% overhead on cost"
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[16:05] <[Saint]> Though some merchants are charlatans, many seem to be.
[16:05] <[Saint]> *aren't
[16:07] <mgottschlag> heh, that's better than "designed for apple products", where it is usually much more than 20%
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[16:08] <shiftplusone> what do you mean by undervolting issues though?
[16:08] <orst3n> all connections dropout (wierd etc)
[16:08] <orst3n> only red led left.
[16:08] <orst3n> and hdmi
[16:09] <orst3n> few pplz told me it sounds like aundervolting issue
[16:09] <orst3n> http://www.pi-supply.com/product/european-eu-micro-usb-raspberry-pi-power-supply-5v-1500ma/
[16:09] <orst3n> this is the connector i got...
[16:09] <orst3n> sry my bad 1.5a
[16:09] <shiftplusone> doesn't matter
[16:09] <shiftplusone> above 1.2A the polyfuse will kick in anyway (but not for transient stuff like this).
[16:10] <orst3n> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Troubleshooting_power_problems
[16:10] <orst3n> worth a try ?
[16:10] <shiftplusone> It doesn't hurt to check the tp1-tp2 voltage if you have a multimeter
[16:10] <orst3n> it says the polyfuse could be bad as well.
[16:10] <orst3n> going to get one form my nightbor..
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[16:11] <shiftplusone> I don't think that's the issue though
[16:12] <shiftplusone> Well, I haven't fully understood the symptoms, so I don't know. In any case, the voltage is the first thing to check.
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[16:12] <orst3n> it happen for example if i try to airplay on openelec
[16:13] <orst3n> but it also did woth another sd card wich seems not compatible or bad..
[16:13] <orst3n> *with
[16:13] <orst3n> hama class 10 32gb
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[16:16] <orst3n> i tryed to install different distrubutions trough the noobs installer on that card. downloads starts but cant get completed. hen only think left is the red led
[16:17] <orst3n> and dl stuck
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[16:57] <Erik_____> I need an wireless usb adapter for my raspberry pi, which is good enough to stream HD movies. What do you guys recommend?
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[17:04] <azizLIGHTS> i discovered i dont need to have X started to play movies with omxplayer
[17:06] <shiftplusone> Move over, CERN. =P
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[17:09] <azizLIGHTS> but it only works with user pi
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[17:09] <azizLIGHTS> hmm
[17:09] <shiftplusone> check the groups of your other user
[17:09] <mgottschlag> probably other users are missing some groups
[17:09] <azizLIGHTS> other users im getting: failed to open vchiq instance
[17:09] <azizLIGHTS> omxplayer error
[17:09] <shiftplusone> aye.... definitely a groups issue
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[17:10] <shiftplusone> need to be in the 'video' group
[17:10] <azizLIGHTS> what group do i add them to
[17:10] <azizLIGHTS> oh
[17:10] <azizLIGHTS> what about audio?
[17:11] <shiftplusone> crw-rw---T 1 root video 250, 0 May 7 10:17 /dev/vchiq
[17:11] <shiftplusone> that particular error is related to video
[17:11] <azizLIGHTS> so only need to add ppl to the group 'video'
[17:11] <shiftplusone> for starters.... I can't tell if there's anything else involved yet.
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[17:15] <azizLIGHTS> video is playing and audio is coming
[17:15] <azizLIGHTS> i cannot seek or play or pause. its like its not responding to the keyboard
[17:16] <azizLIGHTS> same command is being used as the fully working user
[17:16] <azizLIGHTS> pi
[17:16] <shiftplusone> did you have the problem with the pi user?
[17:16] <azizLIGHTS> nope
[17:16] <azizLIGHTS> pi can do it all
[17:16] <shiftplusone> try the 'input' group
[17:16] <azizLIGHTS> is there more groups to be added?
[17:16] <azizLIGHTS> ahh ok
[17:16] <shiftplusone> you can also compare the output of 'groups' from the two users
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[17:18] <azizLIGHTS> it wasnt input heh
[17:18] <azizLIGHTS> yeah but theres so many groups for pi
[17:19] <azizLIGHTS> users adm dialout cdrom sudo audio video plugdev games netdev input indiecity spi gpio sdwriter
[17:19] <azizLIGHTS> which one to try next?
[17:19] <shiftplusone> plugdev, maybe?
[17:19] <shiftplusone> but I doubt it
[17:20] <azizLIGHTS> whats spi ive seen that thrown around in omxplayer threads
[17:20] <shiftplusone> shouldn't be relevant, it's a gpio thing
[17:20] <shiftplusone> lemme take a gander at the source code
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[17:25] <shiftplusone> can't find anything that would prevent the keys from working
[17:25] <azizLIGHTS> hm
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[17:27] <shiftplusone> but I don't quite understand how it gets the keyboard input
[17:28] <shiftplusone> it's just using getchar, from what I can tell
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[17:29] <shiftplusone> so maybe it's receiving the inputs just fine, but is having trouble passing the messages (for which it uses dbus)
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[17:29] <shiftplusone> did you try the plugdev group?
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[17:39] <ruben-ikmaak> test
[17:41] <rosapoP> test failed
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[19:00] <jet> I installed volumio on my raspberry (I'm guessing it is based on debian). I tried to expend my / with raspi-config but it says it can't do anything becuase I'm using NOOBS.
[19:00] <jet> I don't know how to extend my root partition : http://uu.zoy.fr/p/6juqAQ#x=wBCfAGpYCgC0bFEA
[19:01] <shiftplusone> if you used NOOBS, there's nothing to extend.
[19:01] <shiftplusone> but that's not a NOOBS install
[19:02] <jet> I'm not sure volumio is based on NOOBS, but for sure, I don't see 16GB of sd card
[19:02] <jet> noobs is an installer?
[19:02] <shiftplusone> do you run windows on your PC?
[19:02] <jet> mac os x
[19:02] <shiftplusone> yes, NOOBS is an installer and a recovery thing.
[19:02] <jet> I have a freebsd, and I can run a ubuntu easily
[19:03] <jet> so volumio didn't use noobs to install the os
[19:03] <jet> I downloaded a .img file and I used dd to copy it on my sd card
[19:03] <shiftplusone> The reason raspi-config doesn't work is because it's stupid... it assumes the root partition to be something
[19:03] <shiftplusone> and that img isn't partitioned that way
[19:03] <shiftplusone> If you don 't want to resize manually, you can use gparted on the card.
[19:03] <jet> that's what I guessed...
[19:04] <jet> I don't mind doing manually if you can explain me how to do it
[19:04] <shiftplusone> sure
[19:04] <jet> (I will learn it will be better for me :D )
[19:05] <shiftplusone> the basic idea is that you delete the partition from the partition table and re-create it
[19:05] <shiftplusone> with the same start sector
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[19:05] <shiftplusone> identical, but filling the rest of the space, pretty much
[19:05] <shiftplusone> then you reboot and run resize2fs on it
[19:05] <jet> can I do it directly on the raspberry while running it?
[19:05] <shiftplusone> yeah
[19:06] <jet> I already found resize2fs with google, but of course it didn't help me, since the partition is not extended yet
[19:07] <shiftplusone> yup
[19:07] <jet> so how do i change the partition?
[19:07] <shiftplusone> use the partition editor of your choice
[19:07] <shiftplusone> fdisk, parted, cfdisk....
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[19:17] <jet> shiftplusone fdisk asks me "primary" or "extended". Do you know what I should answer?
[19:17] <jet> for my new partition
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[19:17] <shiftplusone> primary
[19:17] <jet> what's the difference?
[19:18] <shiftplusone> There's a limit to how many partitions you can have using this partition scheme
[19:18] <shiftplusone> an extended partition is used to get around that limit
[19:18] <shiftplusone> by having other partitions in it... kind of.
[19:19] <shiftplusone> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Boot_Record
[19:20] <jet> shiftplusone it looks good : http://uu.zoy.fr/p/iDyJxg#x=LNG3ACxxdgAZzdAA ?
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[19:21] <shiftplusone> well, it has changed from p3 to p2, so you'll need to adjust fstab and cmdline.txt probably.
[19:21] <shiftplusone> but it should expand just fine.
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[19:22] <jet> ah yes !
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[19:29] <jet> shiftplusone thanks ! it works ! (I failed to save with fdisk so I've redone it with p3 instead of p2)
[19:29] <shiftplusone> out of curiosity, how?
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[19:30] <jet> how what ?
[19:30] <jet> how I failed?
[19:30] <shiftplusone> partition it so that it's p3
[19:30] <jet> fdisk asked me the partition number
[19:30] <jet> so i gave 3
[19:31] <jet> Partition number (1-4, default 2): 3
[19:31] <shiftplusone> oh.... >.>
[19:31] <shiftplusone> simple enough
[19:32] <jet> just after the partition type, i was asked for the partition number
[19:32] <jet> I prefer to keep it with the same number
[19:32] <shiftplusone> yeah, I remember, it just didn't occur to me.
[19:33] <jet> I'm a bit curious too : with df, I see twice /
[19:33] <jet> http://uu.zoy.fr/p/lpc99g#x=74dxAO94nQCG2ZoA
[19:33] <jet> and I don't event see /dev/mmcblk0p3 being /
[19:33] <jet> why?
[19:34] <shiftplusone> I don't know the specifics, but it's like that on my pi and PC running debian too
[19:34] <jet> ok
[19:34] <jet> thanks for your time !
[19:34] <shiftplusone> np
[19:34] <[Saint]> Mine don't do that.
[19:34] <[Saint]> Guess I'd have to check a pi.
[19:35] <shiftplusone> what's on your desktop?
[19:35] <[Saint]> saint@saint-desktop:~$ df
[19:35] <[Saint]> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
[19:35] <[Saint]> /dev/sda2 19091584 5951564 12147152 33% /
[19:35] <[Saint]> none 4 0 4 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[19:35] <[Saint]> udev 1014164 4 1014160 1% /dev
[19:35] <[Saint]> tmpfs 204988 1188 203800 1% /run
[19:35] <[Saint]> none 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock
[19:35] <[Saint]> none 1024928 152 1024776 1% /run/shm
[19:35] <[Saint]> none 102400 40 102360 1% /run/user
[19:35] <[Saint]> /dev/sda1 463724 36136 399127 9% /boot
[19:35] <[Saint]> /dev/sda3 115215912 6137304 103202848 6% /home
[19:35] <[Saint]> /dev/sdb1 961271120 139368952 773049384 16% /media/saint/Mass Storage
[19:35] <[Saint]> Ubuntu
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[19:35] <shiftplusone> ... somewhat unecessary
[19:35] <[Saint]> Yeah, accident. Sorry.
[19:35] <shiftplusone> but yeah, ubuntu isn't debian.
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[19:36] <[Saint]> Well...TIL: double / is (apparently?) a debianism.
[19:36] <[Saint]> (generally speaking debianisms bleed through into Ubuntu - not this time, one supposes)
[19:37] <shiftplusone> go figure
[19:37] <shiftplusone> do you have / in your fstab?
[19:37] <[Saint]> I do.
[19:37] <shiftplusone> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/43553/why-rootfs-is-mounted-multiple-times
[19:38] <shiftplusone> I am using initramfs on my pi, so I suppose a more standard raspbian install wouldn't have it.
[19:39] <shiftplusone> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=697487
[19:40] * [Saint] sees a single partition not mounted by UUID and goes on the warpath
[19:41] <[Saint]> God. I have so many variations on /tmp its not funny.
[19:41] <[Saint]> Some of them even have variants of /tmp inside them.
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[19:42] <[Saint]> Lol. /tmp/temp/backups/backup/fileserver_disk_image
[19:42] <[Saint]> Now there's a path to be proud of.
[19:42] <shiftplusone> heh
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[19:46] <[Saint]> Ohhhh. Nice.
[19:46] <[Saint]> There's a symlink loop in there too.
[19:47] <shiftplusone> what's responsible for that?
[19:47] <[Saint]> Idiocy, apparently.
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[20:09] * [Saint] is all hyped up and wants to kill things in simulated warfare
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[20:09] <[Saint]> #justfinishedwatchinglebanon
[20:09] <shiftplusone> so... mario then?
[20:10] <[Saint]> I'm not sure bouncing on turtles is going to scratch this itch
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[20:13] <[Saint]> I had the film described to me as "The Das Boot of tank warfare"
[20:14] <[Saint]> It lived up to expectation - recommended.
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[20:38] <Stargazers> Hi. I created Pi sd card on osx and when I try to boot, it hangs and goes to "Entering kbd" (and cannot write anything). Anyway, the problem says that "bad geomettry" and cannot find root partition?
[20:38] <Stargazers> Any ideas what I can do without trying different sd cards? I have tried on two sd card.
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[20:40] <Potato_Power> Can anyone help me identify an IP in my F2B log? 60.10.203.19
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[20:41] <Stargazers> Identify? What you mean?
[20:41] <_Trullo> China Unicom Hebei Province Network
[20:41] <Stargazers> Yeah that is what whois-command tells :)
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[20:42] <blonkel> drivers/usb/host/dwc_otg/dwc_otg_hcd_linux.c:491:14: error: âINTERRUPT_VC_USBâ undeclared (first use in this function
[20:42] <blonkel> how to solve this? :(
[20:43] <blonkel> (kernel building)
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[20:47] <blonkel> additional infos, maybe some one got an hint for me: http://pastebin.com/VFPvT1SV
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[20:54] <[Saint]> F2B entries originating from China.
[20:54] <[Saint]> Well...color me surprised. ;)
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[21:11] <Peio> hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has experience running an overclocked pi
[21:12] <Peio> mine had trouble playing some videos (using openelec) and it's better now that i've overclocked it
[21:12] <chithead> almost all distributions now overclock the pi by default
[21:12] <Peio> yeah but in thise case I'm just a little lower than the "turbo" settings
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[21:12] <Peio> I was wondering if anyone has experience with that, does it need heat sinks or even a fan, etc
[21:12] <sraue> OpenELEC dont overclocks
[21:13] <Peio> it can if you go into the settings
[21:13] <Peio> I modified config.txt
[21:13] <sraue> by default i mean...
[21:13] <Peio> ok
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[21:18] <blonkel> on 3.14.y i get the same error
[21:18] <blonkel> really nobody got a clue?
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[21:37] <admsyn> hi, all! I've got the pi + wolfson sound card working, and am attempting to make an application that can playback a sound file while analyzing live sound input
[21:37] <admsyn> basically kareoke
[21:37] <admsyn> the way I was planning on doing that was omxplayer controlled by dbus for output, alsa api for analyzing sound input
[21:37] <admsyn> is that doing it The Hard Way? I'm not sure what utilities are available
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[21:38] <admsyn> I'm comfortable with C++ & C, but I wouldn't mind being fairly high level about it if possible
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[21:42] <Shardvexz> I'm removing raspbian and installing crunchbang xD
[21:42] <Shardvexz> ^5
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[22:36] <halabund> Are all “Raspberry Pi model B” the same thing or do different versions exist?
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[22:37] <Mikelevel> an old model have 256mb , but now all models have 512mb
[22:37] <rikkib> There are two versions... The first one has 256 meg ram the second 512 mb
[22:38] <halabund> So if I get a “Model B” with 512 MB RAM, it’s the same thing, no matter where I get it from?
[22:39] <netzvieh> yep
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[22:40] <netzvieh> no hidden model numbers, all produced in the UK (iirc)
[22:40] <halabund> Thanks!
[22:40] <Martin`> or you have a fake pi
[22:40] <Martin`> :)
[22:40] <Martin`> are there fake pi's?
[22:40] <Martin`> I've seen banana pi
[22:41] <Martin`> but you see the difference
[22:41] <eggwich> anyone use a beagle?
[22:42] <halabund> I don’t have one, just looking to buy one ..
[22:42] <netzvieh> Martin`: I've seen some customer reviews on amazon marketplace that some ppl got chinaware (last nov I think) as new, dunno if those were from the old batch or fakes
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[22:44] <rikkib> I have 5 RPi made in China and a couple made in the UK.
[22:45] <rikkib> The original RPi was made in China
[22:46] <halabund> Is it possible to boot up and start using an RPi without an external screen and keyboard? Is it possible to boot it up and connect remotely through SSH? Or would I need a screen/keyboard when first setting it up?
[22:47] <rikkib> ssh is enabled by default in Raspian
[22:48] <halabund> rikkib: with a default user/password?
[22:48] <rikkib> You do need a dhcp server
[22:48] <rikkib> pi/raspbian
[22:48] <applegekko> same with archlinux-arm
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[22:50] <Martin`> rikkib: you don't need to run the raspi-config via display? or just start it via ssh?
[22:51] <rikkib> you can run it via ssh
[22:51] <Martin`> ok, I know it starts automatic the first time
[22:51] <rikkib> sudo raspi-config
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[22:52] <halabund> rikkib: Sorry for the beginner questions … just to make sure I’m not missing anything … is this sufficient to get started? (provided that I’m content with terminal access (ssh) for a start and I do have a wired network with a dhcp server) https://www.dropbox.com/s/bm23k8v1uggo5rr/Screenshot%202014-05-18%2016.50.18.png
[22:52] <Martin`> ok
[22:52] <eggwich> i use my rpi headless
[22:52] <eggwich> via droid
[22:53] <Martin`> I have 2 rspi headless, but configured it with display and keyboard
[22:53] <eggwich> ditto
[22:53] <rikkib> I run my rpi via ssh nop problem without a screen
[22:53] <rikkib> I have 6 RPi on my desk and non has a screen
[22:53] <eggwich> i have issues with the webcam
[22:53] <eggwich> but i think its drivers or motion cfg
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[22:54] <eggwich> wanted to mak ea petcube type device for my kitty minus the lazer lol
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[22:54] <rikkib> http://122.61.65.146/
[22:54] <halabund> I mean, apart from the Pi itseld, the only thing I need is a USB cable with micro B connector for powering it, and an ethernet cable for network connection. Is this correct?
[22:54] <rikkib> Three rpi cameras
[22:54] <eggwich> nice
[22:55] <rikkib> one with web cam one with no ir cam and one with nromal cam module
[22:55] * [Saint] frowns at the idea of people freaking out that their electronics were made in China.
[22:55] <rikkib> The oldest of these cams has been running for over a year
[22:55] <[Saint]> Those people better be prepared to do a whole lot of freaking out...
[22:56] <eggwich> what cam software do you use?
[22:56] <halabund> [Saint]: nobody was freaking out, this is how a discussion gets out of hand because nobody reads the whole story
[22:57] <rikkib> motion on the rpi and motion on a normal pc server (Debian) to aggregate the three cams
[22:57] <eggwich> damn.. must be my config or drivers freaking out cause my motion doesnt want to work well with ftp upload lol
[22:57] <rikkib> There is a special copy of motion for the rpi cam on the net
[22:58] <eggwich> i use external webcam (usb)
[22:58] <netzvieh> rikkib: I know, got a china one myself, but sold as new in nov '13 shouldn't be from china anymore ;)
[22:58] <[Saint]> Why?
[22:58] <[Saint]> Its still new.
[22:59] <[Saint]> Despite the date of manufacture.
[22:59] <rikkib> I would not put it past China to keep making them
[22:59] <[Saint]> New doesn't mean "made yesterday"
[22:59] <eggwich> what is wrong with chinese things?
[22:59] <[Saint]> Absolutely nothing.
[22:59] <netzvieh> eggwich: nothing
[22:59] <[Saint]> Not a damn thing.
[22:59] <[Saint]> People like to insinuate there's an issue, though.
[22:59] <eggwich> o ok then why all the talk.
[22:59] <eggwich> oo lol
[22:59] <[Saint]> Gotta love it.
[23:00] <[Saint]> One would suspect it stems from the US's rather successful campaign to annihilate Chinese trade in the past.
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[23:01] <[Saint]> Wow - office guy and plaid shirt lady seem to be having a very stimulating discussion.
[23:02] <netzvieh> [Saint]: Dunno why you are talking about problems with things made in china? no one said something in that direction? ... but okay.
[23:02] <[Saint]> Now glove-hand-guy came and stole their attention.
[23:03] <rikkib> Someone going postal?
[23:03] <[Saint]> netzvieh: If you looked in the backlog you would see what I'm referring to - but perhaps you don't make the same connection.
[23:05] * [Saint] isn't sure there's quite enough crap stacked up in that office
[23:05] <[Saint]> This cam is far too interesting, but I have the feeling it shouldn't be.
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[23:13] <gordonDrogon> evening.
[23:13] <Martin`> I don't understand why my raspberry most time boot in wrong resolution. sometimes it boots with the right one
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> it tries to read the screen resolution via the hdmi connector. maybe the screen somestimes gets it wrong? you can fix it in /boot/config.txt
[23:15] <Martin`> trying to the that, but still does not work right,
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[23:16] <Martin`> hdmi_group=2
[23:16] <Martin`> hdmi_mode=69
[23:16] <Martin`> Only need to change that?
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[23:16] <djapo> should i have fsck.mode=force in my cmdline.txt?
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[23:19] <rikkib> You want to check on boot? EXT3 is a journal file system. It does not need checking on boot.
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[23:22] <Martin`> I force it to 1920x1200, and still the resolution pi uses is 1280x720
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[23:36] <djapo> rikkib: the boot partition is fat
[23:37] <rikkib> and read only in essence
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[23:38] <djapo> unless a kernel update or modifing config and switching kernels incase of partial upgrade
[23:39] <rikkib> The answer to sd card corruption is to run nfs and the watchdog
[23:40] <djapo> so i should remove that from my cmdline.txt
[23:40] <djapo> ?
[23:40] <rikkib> I do not run it.
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[23:40] <rikkib> Who/what tells you to do so?
[23:41] <Martin`> display settings in config.txt are ignored :(
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[23:43] <djapo> rikkib: after a partial update i had to replace the kernel.img and at boot it said that a dirty bit was set on the partition and i had to fsck -a so i added a check to cmdline and change fstab to /dev/mmcblk0p1 /boot vfat defaults 0 2
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[23:45] <rikkib> Hmmm
[23:46] <rikkib> reboot and the warning will probably go away
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[23:57] <Martin`> hmm sometimes I'm allowed to use hdmi mode 68, sometimes I can't use it?
[23:58] <Martin`> tvservice --modes=DMT << this dit not show mode 68 before I reboot, after it has (it also booted in the right resolution)

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