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IRC Log for 2014-05-19

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[0:40] <chaitime> anyone ever got gpsd working with rpi?
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[0:56] <ebswift> for the aussies, what are the chances of this working? http://www.dicksmith.com.au/networking-wireless/telstra-pre-paid-3g-usb-wifi-dsau-eb5021
[0:58] <plugwash> I'm not an ausie but i'd say over wifi it will amost certainly work, over usb it may or may not work
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[0:58] <ebswift> yeah, usb
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[1:04] <[Saint]> As a person who has both 3G and Dick Smith in their locale, and isn't Australian - I. Am. Offend.
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[1:13] <plugwash> [Saint], but you don't have telstra in your locale
[1:13] <plugwash> at least I doubt you do
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[1:14] <[Saint]> We do.
[1:14] <[Saint]> So - ha! ;)
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[1:14] <[Saint]> Named slightly differently, but, still one in the same entity.
[1:15] <[Saint]> (we have Telstraclear)
[1:15] <[Saint]> Telstra absorbed Clearnet some 7 years ago or so.
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[1:47] <hazardrix> Hi, I'm using raspbian and mounted my 500 GB harddrive (NTFS). Raspbian shows that it would have only 200 Megabytes. What do I have to do to correct the size?
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[1:59] <FutureTense> is there a espeak python library that works with raspberrypi?
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[2:04] <hazardrix> raspbian apparently mounts some EFI partition instead of the NTFS partition. I couldnt delete this efi partition in windows. What should I do?
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[2:07] <plugwash> how are you mounting the drive?
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[2:11] <hazardrix> I got the efi deleted now, I'll check if it works now
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[2:15] <hazardrix> I was using fstab. The two numbers at the end, do they mean the partition number? If so, I have 0 0. Maybe I mounted the wrong partition then
[2:16] <plugwash> No the two numbers at the end are not related to partition number, iirc one of them is to do with filesystem checking and i'm not sure about the other
[2:16] <hazardrix> I deleted both partitions though and only have one left. Works now, I have all the space
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[2:17] <plugwash> the partition number is part of the device name /dev/sd<letter identifying the device><partition number>
[2:17] <hazardrix> ok, then the numbers shouldn't matter. Deleting the partitions did the trick
[2:17] <hazardrix> :)
[2:17] <hazardrix> Thanks for your help
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[2:18] <chaitime> anyone here used USB to serial for GPS?
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[2:37] <rikkib> I hook my 3.3v powered gps directly to the rpi serial
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[2:48] <chaitime> rikkib: gpsd?
[2:49] <rikkib> Hmmm
[2:49] <rikkib> I use a lib and example code
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[2:50] <rikkib> libgps
[2:50] <nasuga> Hows the binary blob situation with the raspberry pi?
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[2:52] <rikkib> https://github.com/wdalmut/libgps.git
[2:52] <[Saint]> rikkib: what's the number in the upper right corner of the cams linked earlier?
[2:53] <[Saint]> I was trying to work it out based on onscreen behaviour but it doens't seem to be consistent.
[2:53] <rikkib> number of pixels changed
[2:53] <[Saint]> Ahhhhh.
[2:53] <[Saint]> With a rather high margin oferror, I assume, which is why I couldn't find a pattern.
[2:54] <[Saint]> *of error
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[2:54] <rikkib> depends on light conditions and speed of change of light conditions
[2:54] <[Saint]> Dude driving the forklift around this morning almost never managed to set it off.
[2:55] <[Saint]> Whereas ponytail-office-worker was setting it off assumedly just from her wrist action at the desktop.
[2:55] <[Saint]> So - I couldn't for the life of me find a pattern.
[2:55] <[Saint]> But, I see now.
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[2:55] <rikkib> the motion detection feature is next to useless in all but the best conditions
[2:56] <[Saint]> I noticed a guy wandering around with a top and pants that almost perfectly matched the backgrund color.
[2:56] <plugwash> nasuga, the SoC on the Pi is best described as a GPU with an arm bolted on
[2:56] <rikkib> and the ir sensors I installed are just as bad
[2:56] <[Saint]> the motion detection picked him up as a floating severed head.
[2:56] <[Saint]> I was amused by this.
[2:57] <plugwash> the GPU contains a processor known as the VPU and this processor is responsible for among other things booting the device. Currently all VPU code is closed source and included in a blob shipped by the foundation which is needed to boot.
[2:57] <[Saint]> Even though his outline was clearly discernible to the human eye, his choice of attire seemed to screw over the machine learning rather well.
[2:58] <[Saint]> plugwash: though various people have made the claim that booting blobless with the Broadcom driver sources is technically a possibility
[2:59] <[Saint]> (we're yet to see it actually happen)
[2:59] <[Saint]> Note: that wasn't a correction - more an addition. Everything you said is correct.
[3:00] <plugwash> AIUI the broadcom driver sources contained some hints about the vpu
[3:00] <plugwash> but substantial reverse engineering work would still likely be needed to produce a working bootloader
[3:01] <[Saint]> Depending on who you ask, exactly how substantial differs wildly.
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[3:14] <nasuga> plugwash: Thanks, I see. There doesn't happen to be any boards similar to the pi that's much more open source/disclosed freely?
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[3:17] <plugwash> It's almost unheard of to find one where everything is open
[3:17] <[Saint]> Actually, I think it *is* unheard of.
[3:18] <[Saint]> Completely.
[3:18] <plugwash> OTOH it's quite common to find boards that can boot without a blob if you don't care about the 3D graphics
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[3:19] <nasuga> :/, I might just wait for novena and just see how that plays out
[3:20] <[Saint]> Its pretty much impossible to find a *fully* open device.
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[3:20] <[Saint]> see: every "open" hanset ever.
[3:20] <[Saint]> *handset
[3:21] <plugwash> novena is an imx6 iirc
[3:21] <plugwash> and iirc on the imx6 the 3D core is not open
[3:21] <[Saint]> Open this, open that, open other thing, ...closed modem binaries.
[3:21] <[Saint]> Just the part you want to be closed.
[3:21] <[Saint]> The bit that can access every little bit of hardware and memory it wants.
[3:22] <[Saint]> (note: extremem sarcasm)
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[3:23] <nasuga> plugwash: https://www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop/stretch-goals
[3:23] <nasuga> They developed libre 3D drivers for it already
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[3:24] <[Saint]> Actually, come to think of it, I can only think of a singular open cellular baseband.
[3:24] <[Saint]> And its just short of terrible.
[3:24] <plugwash> and if they work on the novena hopefully they will work on other imx6 systems too :)
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[3:25] <nasuga> hopefully :)
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[3:26] <plugwash> From what i'm seeing the imx6 has a lot going for it, it's not in the same price range as the Pi though
[3:26] * [Saint] starts imagining Linux on the SanDisk Sansa Fuze+ and other SanDisk iMX variants
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[3:27] <[Saint]> Why they put such a SoC in a DAp that is essentially disposable is beyond me.
[3:27] <[Saint]> I assume they had a pile of leftover silicon to get rid of.
[3:28] <[Saint]> Under Rockbox, except for a few bits of legacy code, it never needs to get off the minimum clock at all.
[3:28] <plugwash> Note that the imx range covers a VERY wide range of devices
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[3:30] <[Saint]> Right. FOr the Fuze+ its the i.MX233 iirc.
[3:30] <[Saint]> Still overkill be a factor of 5 or so.
[3:30] <[Saint]> *by a
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[3:40] <[Saint]> Gah.
[3:40] <[Saint]> Gotta love proprietary USb cables.
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[3:42] * [Saint] wonders why the makers of a digital camera that I would class as being disposable opted for their own proprietary USB fitting.
[3:42] <[Saint]> Looking at the thing, the total BOM can't be more than a few dollars per unit.
[3:43] <[Saint]> Yet they opted to use their own cable fitting - for no apparent reason other than to make life difficult
[3:44] <nasuga> Capitalism. It forces people to buy their overpriced cables once they lose them. All production and profit goes through them.
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[3:47] <promet> Hi, does anyone do any motor control or "robotics" with their Pi?
[3:47] <promet> I'm having an issue with my ultrasonic sensor, and was looking for a little feedback.
[3:48] <promet> ultrasonic sensor controlling my motor that is...
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[3:55] <[Saint]> nasuga: for large scale manufacture of branded items that makes sense.
[3:55] <[Saint]> For these guys, I find it hard to imagine that they managed to offset the additional production costs.
[3:55] <[Saint]> Its a no-name VGA keychain digital camera.
[3:55] <nasuga> It doesn't make it less evil ;)
[3:56] <[Saint]> Oh, ineed not.
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[3:56] <[Saint]> *indeed
[3:56] <shiftplusone> and if you throw 'capitalism' in there, it makes it sound even more sinister D=
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[3:56] <[Saint]> Morning shift.
[3:57] <shiftplusone> ahoy
[3:57] * [Saint] believes he just snuck that in with a few minutes to spare
[3:57] <shiftplusone> yup
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[6:32] <Xerxes_> lo, I am trying to write a simple module that requests an interrupt on install and removes the same interrupt when removed. It is supposed to use the GPIO pins on a raspberry pi, I have put a jumper on the pins 23 and 24, s� they can communicate. anyway, the module doesn't work :(
[6:32] <Xerxes_> http://pastebin.com/5j0zDqm8
[6:33] <Xerxes_> there is my code, I do get it to listen to the interrupt.... but it doesn't write the message as it is suppose to do
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[7:56] <rymate1234> hey will this work with the Pi? http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-wireless-mini-deskset-n69jx
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[8:00] <shiftplusone> should be fine if you have a powered hub, but who knows.
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[8:09] <rymate1234> ok thanks
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[8:15] <Tachyon`> that'd be fine without a wired hub I'd expect, at least I use something very like it
[8:15] <Tachyon`> although as ever depends on the PSU and what else is plugged in
[8:15] <Tachyon`> powered hub*
[8:18] <rymate1234> well my Pi can power a wifi adaptor and an xbox controller
[8:19] <shiftplusone> sometimes, for some people.
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[8:25] <[Saint]> There's far, far too many variable to say for certain that it definitely will work.
[8:26] <[Saint]> I'd be willing to accept "it will /probably/ work".
[8:26] <[Saint]> But anything more definite than that is likely to disappoint someone.
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[8:29] <shiftplusone> it's what we're here for
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[9:56] <Justin__m> after a week my problem returned.. i got the boost::interprocess::bad_alloc error again
[9:57] <Justin__m> what can i do to prevent this?
[9:57] <Justin__m> its not a problem that the memory is on short
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[11:01] <gaspard> can i use my laptop's USB as a power source for my rbpi ?
[11:01] <shiftplusone> depends on the laptop
[11:01] <shiftplusone> it might work, but it's a bad idea for a variety of reasons.
[11:01] <gaspard> apple macbook pro
[11:02] <Armand> It should work, but it's ill-advised for any lengthy period.
[11:02] <gaspard> why so ?
[11:02] <Armand> Even plugging in a mouse might affect it.
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[11:03] <gaspard> ah ? amperage variation si bad for my rbpi ?
[11:03] <Armand> Depends on the current draw and how much the laptop can provide.
[11:03] <mike_t> the first time I used eeepc 901 as a power source, but yes, it's bad idea.
[11:04] <gaspard> but... i just got it from snailmail, i cannot wait......
[11:04] <Armand> My PC can run an rPi constantly, but it's not exactly efficient. :P
[11:04] <gaspard> you people are mean !
[11:04] <gaspard> :-)
[11:04] <Armand> Got an iPhone charger ?
[11:04] <gaspard> yes, iphone and ipad charger
[11:05] <shiftplusone> If we go by USB 2.0 specs, no a USB port is not required to provide anywhere near the current required, but many do anyway.
[11:05] <Armand> Check the current.. If it can supply around 1A, you should be fine.
[11:05] <shiftplusone> don't use the ipad charger, if you're in the US
[11:05] <mike_t> shiftplusone, interestingly. why?
[11:06] <shiftplusone> mike_t, the cube-like ones that come with ipads in the US are known to be bad.
[11:06] <shiftplusone> mike_t, I don't know what it is about them exactly though
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[11:35] <gaspard> what if I want a minimalistic debian/ubuntu oriented distro for my rpi that does not have X gui and with openssh and dhcp.... I'd like to install only nodejs :-)
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[11:37] <shiftplusone> gaspard, https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
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[11:38] <gaspard> thnx shiftplusone !
[11:38] <shiftplusone> np
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[12:05] <turffy> hi
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[12:05] <turffy> can someone enlighten me about the codecs, I've down loaded vlc and trying to play a MPEG video its playing but video is not moving and no sound. I read from raspberry site that you need to buy codec for pi for it to play? any advice?
[12:07] <shiftplusone> try with omxplayer first
[12:07] <turffy> k, let me try that. thanks
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[12:13] <bigx> hello
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[12:13] <bigx> is there a shell script that determine if the computer is a raspberry pi?
[12:14] <bigx> I have a node.js program that can run on various machine, but if it's a raspberry pi I need to install some specific libraries
[12:14] <shiftplusone> you can check if "BCM2708" is present in /proc/cpuinfo
[12:15] <plugwash> seems strange, what libraries do you need on a Pi that you don't need on other debian-based systems?
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[12:16] <bigx> spi related stuff
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[12:17] <shiftplusone> if grep -q BCM2708 /proc/cpuinfo ; then echo "It's a pi"; fi;
[12:17] <bigx> shiftplusone, my hero :)
[12:17] <shiftplusone> can't vouch for its reliability
[12:19] <bigx> :)
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[12:28] <turffy> hi shiftplusone, I tried omxplayer -o hdmi <myvido>, I only get, Video codec omx-h264 width 720 height 480 profile 100 fps 29.970030Audio codec mp2 channels 2 samplerate 44100 bitspersample 16Subtitle count: 0, state: off, index: 1, delay: 0. did I miss something
[12:28] <turffy> ?
[12:29] <shiftplusone> you don't see the video playing?
[12:29] <turffy> nope
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[12:29] <shiftplusone> Odd
[12:29] <shiftplusone> it sounds like the codec itself is fine though
[12:29] <shiftplusone> but the version of vlc in the repo doesn't use the GPU
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[12:31] <turffy> I have adjust my mem split it to give it to gpu
[12:31] <shiftplusone> More info here http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi_FAQ#Video_and_audio_formats_the_Raspberry_Pi_can_playback
[12:31] <shiftplusone> what was it?
[12:31] <shiftplusone> 64 should be plenty for video, I think.
[12:33] <turffy> k, i'l read that, bytheway hdmi cable are standard right? cause I just bought a cheap one from our local store. and fact that I could start a gui on my tv screen, its working fine
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[12:34] <shiftplusone> yeah, the cable is not the issue.
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[12:44] <gaspard> shiftplusone, generally, raspbian's packages are up to date ? would I have recent packages or should I go and look for ppa repos ?
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[12:45] <shiftplusone> raspbian follows debian as much as possible
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[12:46] <shiftplusone> so they're as up to date as debian is. in the case of wheezy, the focus is on stability, not bleeding edge.
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[13:38] <gaspard> some raspbian packages are outdated (nodejs is version 0.6 instead of 0.10) is it safe to use a ppa from ubuntu ? # add-apt-repository ppa:chris-lea/node.js
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[13:40] <plugwash> no it is not safe
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[13:41] <shiftplusone> maybe check what's in Jessie
[13:41] <pksato> have port of Jessie to raspberry pi?
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[13:42] <shiftplusone> aye, I believe Raspbian has had Jessie for quite a while.
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[13:42] <gaspard> jessie ? is this a friend of wheezy ?
[13:43] <shiftplusone> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
[13:43] <shiftplusone> and if you look at the ua-netinst readme, you'll see how to install jessie instead of wheezy..... but check the versions first, it mght not have what you need.
[13:43] <gaspard> hum... so the raspbian-ua-netinst is running an "old" debian version ?
[13:44] <shiftplusone> no, it's current 'stable'
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[13:47] <pksato> if have a port, replace wheezy to jessie on /etc/apt/sources.list. but, its for your own risk.
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[13:58] <gaspard> I see, okay, let's go to jessie, I will try the clean way with the installer-customization https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst#installer-customization but it is not very clear of which file I should edit, is it the /boot/config.txt ?
[13:59] <shiftplusone> "The installer provides support for this by reading a configuration file installer-config.txt from the first vfat partition."
[13:59] <shiftplusone> for the customization
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[14:00] <shiftplusone> and to run the install again, "mv /boot/config-reinstall.txt /boot/config.txt"
[14:00] <atouk> what changes make people want to push jessie
[14:01] <gaspard> ah oki, so I should create it, sorry, I just pasted stupidly everything in the wrong file :-(
[14:01] <shiftplusone> atouk, what do you mean?
[14:01] <gaspard> atouk : I wanted a "clean" nodejs 0.10.x and hopefully a recent git-core too
[14:01] <shiftplusone> gaspard, I don't think you will get anything out of it though.... I'll check for you. It's the nodejs package you're interested in, right?
[14:02] <atouk> isn't jessie teh next vrelease of raspbian, but not yer official?
[14:02] <shiftplusone> atouk, not sure that's a 100% cromulent definition, but pretty much, yeah.
[14:02] <gaspard> yup, when I installed on wheezy I was on 0.6 and nodejs is not very consistent between 0.6 and 0.10
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[14:03] <shiftplusone> gaspard, debian jessie has 0.10.26
[14:03] <atouk> what's new/changed/etc
[14:03] <shiftplusone> I don't know if that has made its way to raspbian yet.
[14:03] <gaspard> coolness
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[14:04] <gaspard> I hope so, because I would prefer to avoid a dirty compilation from source on the pi machine (plus the fact that it could take ages)
[14:04] <shiftplusone> atouk, ah, wheezy is all about a stable, tried and tested combination of packages, so things can be very out of date. THey don't bump versions unless there are serious issues. Sid is where all new packages and new versions of packages go. Jessie is somewhere in between.
[14:05] <shiftplusone> gaspard, backporting isn't too hard.
[14:05] <shiftplusone> https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
[14:05] <shiftplusone> (that will take the jessie package and compile it for wheezy)
[14:06] <shiftplusone> I am not a Debian person though, so I am not 100% correct about things here, it's just my understanding. I trust plugwash will correct me if I misspeak.
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[14:07] <pksato> if package not have deep dependencies, is easy to backport. download source and build.
[14:07] <gaspard> I'd like to do it "as clean as possible" and straight foward because in the meantime I am using a vagrant image of the rbpi to test before syncing and I hate doing things twice :-)
[14:09] <pksato> if backport only need to upgrade node.js, its is clean.
[14:09] <shiftplusone> I would backport. The file you will need is here http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/n/nodejs/
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[14:09] <shiftplusone> (if you use the tutorial I linked earlier)
[14:10] <shiftplusone> I'm sure there are all kinds of other magic ways to do it though
[14:10] <pksato> on some cases, jessie pkg can be installed on wheezy. (if not need new libs)
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[15:16] <KDKryptos> Hello ! Has anyone here worked on SPI on Python for the PI ?
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[15:29] <mfa298> KDKryptos: I've done a little bit of spi from python
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[15:29] <mfa298> there's a nice library for it
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[15:30] <shiftplusone> KDKryptos, such questions usually get ignored. It's best to state the problem and give all the relevant detail then see if anyone replies. Otherwise, nobody knows if they can help.
[15:30] <KDKryptos> mfa298 - I looked at the SPIdev documentation and being a beginner couldn't make out much from it.Is there a tutorial or an code example that I could look at ?
[15:31] <mfa298> the only link I've got handy of the library https://github.com/doceme/py-spidev
[15:31] <mfa298> you may also need to enable the kernel module
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[15:33] <KDKryptos> I enabled the kernel module. when I try lsmod, I can see the SPI BCM listed
[15:34] <KDKryptos> If there were a code example I could look at, I guess I can pick up a lot from it. Is there one ?
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[15:35] <mfa298> I think I found that library and some bits of example code by searching for something like "raspberry pi python spi"
[15:35] <mfa298> adding the library name or url might find some more as well.
[15:36] <mfa298> I don't have any links handy I think the only useful links I had are on a pi I cant access at the moment.
[15:38] <KDKryptos> mfa298 If you find docs or any helpful links can you please PM them to me when you can ?
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[15:39] <mfa298> I'm not going to promise anything as I'll probably have forgotton by this evening (the earliest I could look)
[15:40] <mfa298> but I found a few examples and that library with not much googling
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[15:41] <KDKryptos> alright ! thanks for the help mfa298
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[15:56] <rymate1234> WE NEED TO HEAL FLAREON
[15:57] <jedahan> wrong channel rymate1234
[15:57] <jedahan> or maybe not, anyone else doing TPP through raspberry pi?
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[15:57] <rymate1234> whoops
[15:57] <rymate1234> xD
[15:57] <jedahan> now try yelling that out sometime randomly throughout the day haha
[15:58] <rymate1234> yeah i wont be doing that
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[17:31] <lord4163> Will 500mA be enough to power the raspberry pi model b?
[17:31] <shiftplusone> maybe, possibly, if you don't plug anything in.
[17:31] <shiftplusone> but that's a bad idea.
[17:31] <IT_Sean> 750mA recommended, though.
[17:31] <shiftplusone> aye, 750mA minimum.... if you can get 1.2A+, do.
[17:32] <IT_Sean> ^ that
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[17:32] <lord4163> shiftplusone: hmmm ok, I bought a powerpack which just has 500mAh input :(
[17:33] <shiftplusone> could try it and see how you go.
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[17:33] <shiftplusone> but if you find it randomly crashing or being otherwise unstable.... check the tp1-tp2 voltage.
[17:33] <lord4163> shiftplusone: ya well, I rather get a better one in that case :P
[17:34] <lord4163> shiftplusone: because that's the point of the powerpack, to prevent crashes and corrupted filesystems, got enough of that
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[17:36] <lord4163> shiftplusone: if you got any recommendations, I am glad to hear that :)
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[17:36] <shiftplusone> something from a company you can sue if it burns down your house
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[17:36] <shiftplusone> (not mystery chinese stuff)
[17:37] <IT_Sean> Yeah, don't buy cheap chinese power supplies
[17:37] <shiftplusone> so Samsung, HTC, most apple chargers.... then there are some others , the availability of which will depend on your location.
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[17:38] <shiftplusone> For example, in UK http://cpc.farnell.com/powerpax/usb2-1uk/usb-power-supply-5v-2-1a-uk/dp/PW03121?Ntt=SW4479
[17:38] <IT_Sean> I had a cheap chinese counterfit Apple charger fail catastrophically not long ago. Thankfulyl my phone was not yet plugged into it!
[17:38] <shiftplusone> Not if it was an iphone.
[17:39] <IT_Sean> hush you
[17:39] <IT_Sean> I like my iPhone.
[17:39] <IT_Sean> I was still on the Nexus 4 at the time, though.
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[17:41] <IT_Sean> It went FZZLPOP when i plugged it in... Testing with a multimeter revealed mains voltage on the OUTPUT side.
[17:41] <shiftplusone> that's always great
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[17:42] <IT_Sean> Yah.
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[17:45] <gordonDrogon> some of them are somewhat sub-optimal in their design.
[17:46] <gordonDrogon> another reason I buy from a UK disty rather than importing...
[17:46] <shiftplusone> A fan of under-statements, ey?
[17:46] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> that Ozzy chap who does the ee blog did a nice review of one a while back...
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[17:47] <IT_Sean> calling that supply "sub-optimal" is like saying the English channel is "a bit moist"
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> it is. just a shade damp.
[17:47] <IT_Sean> It would have fried my phone had my phone been plugged in to it!
[17:47] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, you sure you're thinking about Dave and not Mike?
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[17:48] <shiftplusone> I'm sure Dave had one too, but this is the one that comes to mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T88ej64aXUM
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[17:52] <gordonDrogon> pretty sure it was the eevblog. trying to google it now.
[17:52] <shiftplusone> Probably too much coarse language for an op to post here XD
[17:53] <admsyn> I've got an rPI with a working sound card, "arecord" gets me a good file. If I try and use the ALSA capture API examples that are floating around, though, I never seem to receive any packets
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[17:53] <admsyn> does anyone know if there's an rPI related gotcha I should be aware of?
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[17:54] <admsyn> :p
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[17:55] <admsyn> it *seems* like everything's going fine, I get through all the ALSA calls without errors, it reports a running capture interface, but it always reports 0 frames available
[17:55] <gordonDrogon> can't find it. ah well. it was basically dangerous.
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[18:01] <lord4163> shiftplusone: that ain't a power bank :P
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[18:02] <shiftplusone> ah, is that what you meant by powerpack?
[18:02] <lord4163> shiftplusone: yeah aren't they the same thing? :P
[18:02] <shiftplusone> then it doesn't matter what the input is, just the output.
[18:02] <lord4163> yes but I need to use it as UPS so if it can't charge quickly enough it will die
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[18:04] <lord4163> shiftplusone: right? :)
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[18:04] <shiftplusone> I don't know, people call things differently around the world. And sometimes you get people who are "sub-optimal in their English"....but yeah, that's my excuse.... I just mis-read the question and went on a tirade about crappy power supplies, I guess.
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[18:05] <lord4163> shiftplusone: well they are called powerpacks in my local shop :P
[18:05] <shiftplusone> Another reason I was thrown off...... http://cpc.farnell.com/powerpax/usb2-1uk/usb-power-supply-5v-2-1a-uk/dp/PW03121?Ntt=SW4479
[18:05] <shiftplusone> 'powerpax'
[18:05] <lord4163> shiftplusone: lol!
[18:05] <shiftplusone> that was brought up a little earlier
[18:06] <shiftplusone> but yeah.... I think you need to measure the current draw for your use case yourself
[18:06] <shiftplusone> I suspect the 500mA input label doesn't even mean much.
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[18:10] <lord4163> shiftplusone: you don't know a powerbank that is good enough? :)
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[18:12] <shiftplusone> I'd look at anker ones, but I haven't looked at their charge profiles or anything like that.
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[18:18] <lord4163> shiftplusone: and it's just for a minute or so it has to keep up.
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[18:19] <whiskers75> Hello, I'm having problems with a RT5370 wifi adapter.
[18:19] <shiftplusone> they should last at least an hour, so why does it matter what the charge rate is if you're only dropping off for a minute?
[18:19] <whiskers75> It's listed in lsusb, but not in ifconfig.
[18:20] <lord4163> 0.5mA in 0.7mAh that wouldn't work in my opinion shiftplusone ?
[18:20] <shiftplusone> whiskers75, pastebin dmesg and lsusb -v
[18:21] <lord4163> 0.5-0.7= -0,2
[18:21] <shiftplusone> lord4163, depends on the constructions of the powerpack.
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[18:21] <whiskers75> shiftplusone: http://sprunge.us/jGKO is lsusb -v
[18:21] <whiskers75> shiftplusone: and http://sprunge.us/IXKb is dmesg
[18:21] <whiskers75> I have run rpi-update
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[18:22] <lord4163> shiftplusone: how do you mean?
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[18:22] <whiskers75> (Ideally, I'd like to get this running as a wifi hotspot)
[18:23] <shiftplusone> lord4163, you would hope that the powerpack isn't just charging the battery and draining it as the same time when a device is connected. You'd hope that power flows from the input to the device, not through the battery to the device.
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[18:24] <whiskers75> shiftplusone: any ideas?
[18:24] <shiftplusone> sec
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[18:24] <shiftplusone> lord4163, in other words, the input should be shared between the battery and the devices, rather than only going to the battery and then the device drawing from the battery.
[18:25] <lord4163> shiftplusone: ah ok, so how do I know that?
[18:25] <shiftplusone> take some measurements
[18:26] <whiskers75> :P
[18:26] <lord4163> shiftplusone: What and how should I meassure? :P
[18:27] <shiftplusone> current in (with and without the pi attached) and current out
[18:27] <shiftplusone> whiskers75, sorry, do you have firmware-ralink installed?
[18:28] <whiskers75> ❯ sudo apt-get install firmware-ralink
[18:28] <whiskers75> E: Unable to locate package firmware-ralink
[18:28] <whiskers75> shiftplusone: no
[18:28] <shiftplusone> whiskers75, what distro and how was it installed?
[18:28] <whiskers75> lemme apt-get update
[18:28] <whiskers75> shiftplusone: it's raspbian, installed by some network-based minimal install
[18:28] <shiftplusone> ah
[18:28] <whiskers75> I forget what it was/where I found it
[18:28] <shiftplusone> that's missing the non-free component in sources.list
[18:28] <shiftplusone> this, right? https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
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[18:29] <whiskers75> yes
[18:29] <shiftplusone> aye, modify /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:29] <shiftplusone> and change the raspbian repo by adding 'non-free' to the components list
[18:29] <whiskers75> great
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[18:29] <whiskers75> yay, raspberry pi as router!
[18:29] <whiskers75> shiftplusone: and then reboot?
[18:29] <shiftplusone> then apt-get update and try again)
[18:30] <whiskers75> I'd like to avoid a reboot if possible
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[18:30] <shiftplusone> should be able to modprobe the module without rebooting
[18:30] <shiftplusone> but does your pi reset if you unplug the dongle and plug it back in?
[18:30] <whiskers75> shiftplusone: yes
[18:30] <shiftplusone> okay
[18:30] <whiskers75> (it even resets when starting up sometimes)
[18:30] <whiskers75> I've tried two power adapters
[18:31] <whiskers75> ok, firmware-ralink installed
[18:31] <whiskers75> shiftplusone: now what?
[18:31] <shiftplusone> not a power adapter issue. the pi just lacks proper decoupling caps
[18:31] <whiskers75> what module do I modprobe again?
[18:31] <shiftplusone> rt2800usb
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[18:31] <shiftplusone> might need to -r it first... I don't know.
[18:32] <whiskers75> shiftplusone: nothing in ifconfig
[18:32] <whiskers75> lemme just reboot
[18:33] <shiftplusone> In my case, dmesg is a little more helpful when firmware was not present.... in your case.... I don't see a clear problem.
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[18:33] <shiftplusone> (also try ifconfig -a, not just ifconfig)
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[18:33] <lord4163> shiftplusone: but I still don't understand if I get 0.5mAh from the wall it will not be enough to power the pi?
[18:34] <whiskers75> YAY!
[18:34] * whiskers75 hugs shiftplusone
[18:34] <shiftplusone> lord4163, by the book, no. In practice, it depends on what you have plugged into it.
[18:34] <shiftplusone> whiskers75, you're welcome. =)
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[18:39] * ShorTie see's a MaxPower 450mA in lsusb -v that might be a problem
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[18:39] <lord4163> shiftplusone: I rather play on the safe side, but those ankers aren't available in Sweden?
[18:40] <shiftplusone> Maybe, don't know. I misplaced my list of things unavailable in Sweden. =(
[18:41] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, that doesn't mean much. It's just something the device spits out while enumerating. It's not measured or anything, just hard-coded in.
[18:41] <IT_Sean> And a lot of mfgrs lie
[18:41] <IT_Sean> or use the same info for all their products, regardless of current requirements
[18:42] <shiftplusone> I'm not sure it's a lie... I think it's just used by usb hosts to determine whether it's a low power or high power device so that it can reject it, if necessary. That might not be the exact parameter that's checked though. I didn't dig too deep into the specs)
[18:42] <lord4163> shiftplusone: or holland :P
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[18:43] <shiftplusone> lord4163, unfortunately, all my 'stuff unavailable in Europe' lists were in the same box =(
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[18:43] <IT_Sean> you lost stuff?
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[18:44] <IT_Sean> Or is that the box that Davespice set on fire the other day? :p
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[18:44] <shiftplusone> eh? did he actually set something on fire?
[18:45] <IT_Sean> I was joking.
[18:45] <IT_Sean> Although... I wouldn't put it past him.
[18:45] <shiftplusone> oh =(
[18:46] <IT_Sean> Sorry to disappoint.
[18:46] <shiftplusone> It's okay, I'll burn something of his when I see him.
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> I've seen some stuff Davespice is working on ;-)
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> not sure if it has as many wires as the thing I've just put together...
[18:46] * gordonDrogon takes a photo
[18:46] <IT_Sean> What are you putting together, gordonDrogon?
[18:47] * shiftplusone guesses it's a robot.
[18:47] <IT_Sean> Oh dear.
[18:47] <shiftplusone> or some kind of thing
[18:47] <IT_Sean> As long as it isn't self aware.
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> heh.. wait a mo until my 1Mb/sec upload gets the photo up...
[18:48] <IT_Sean> 1mbps up? That's pathetic.
[18:48] <shiftplusone> ....
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[18:48] <serb> hy
[18:48] * shiftplusone grumbles something about spoiled yanks >.>
[18:48] <serb> is there a way to play videos smoothly on a raspberry pi with arch wihtout having to install the xbmc os
[18:48] <IT_Sean> <------- 5 up, 40 down.
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20140519_174714.jpg
[18:48] <serb> not necesarily 720p
[18:49] <Jusii> serb: omxplayer
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[18:49] <gordonDrogon> 1Mb/sec up is good for adsl2+ which is all my exchange has.
[18:49] <IT_Sean> jeebus gordon! That is a LOT of wires!
[18:49] <shiftplusone> Aha, so it IS some kind of thing.
[18:49] <IT_Sean> Yes. It is clearly a thing, shiftplusone. ::eyeroll::
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> er, yes - a lot of wires.
[18:49] <IT_Sean> What is it?
[18:49] <IT_Sean> Besides an overly complicated way to display the number "8"
[18:50] <shiftplusone> I would imagine it's one of those displays and a controller for it?
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> it's an 8-digit retro LED display. multiplexed.
[18:50] <shiftplusone> forget the name of display....
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> Pimoroni made me do it..
[18:50] <IT_Sean> Can it calculate Pi to the Pi-millionth digit?!
[18:50] <serb> ?!?!!??!?!
[18:50] <shiftplusone> ah... just led... whoops.
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[18:51] <IT_Sean> So, wait... it IS just an overly complex way to display the number "8" ?
[18:51] <shiftplusone> Just checked my speeds...... 8.56 down, 0.09 up (yay).
[18:51] <IT_Sean> jeez... I can probably do better than that on my PHONE!
[18:52] <shiftplusone> I'll double check with my ISP as the mirror/server
[18:52] <shiftplusone> down is a little better.... 12.7
[18:53] <shiftplusone> up is 0.51.... so again.... yay.
[18:53] <whiskers75> shiftplusone: thanks to you, I'm now speaking from my rpi's torified access point :D
[18:53] <IT_Sean> Running speedtest on my phone
[18:53] <IT_Sean> ...
[18:54] <IT_Sean> 30 down, 10 up
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> IT_Sean, don't wory - I'll have fttp in just over a years time - 300 down 100 up.
[18:54] <shiftplusone> Hurray for Australia
[18:55] <IT_Sean> The fact that my mobile connection is faster than your home connection amuses me greatly.
[18:56] <shiftplusone> >=/
[18:56] <shiftplusone> I'd check 4g on my phone, but our mobile data plans are even more comical
[18:56] <IT_Sean> =D
[18:56] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, what's that 2503A chip? I can't find it.
[18:57] <shiftplusone> whoops.... 2803
[18:58] <shiftplusone> oh, that's imbarassing, I should've known.
[18:58] <shiftplusone> .... and I can't spell.
[18:58] <shiftplusone> might be bed time.
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[18:58] <gordonDrogon> uln2803
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> :)
[18:59] <shiftplusone> yeah, kind of an important one
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> well - it would work without, but I'd be sinking 30ma into a Pi pin.
[19:00] * IT_Sean can smell the magical blue smoke from here
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> you can do it with just one LED lit at a time, but the multiplexing is faster if you can light all 8 segments in a digit at the same time.
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[19:00] <gordonDrogon> I've done it before just lighting one LED a a time
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/7-segment-led-display-for-the-raspberry-pi/
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> that one does 1 segment at a time - but the display is dimmer as a result.
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[19:16] <KameSense> hello, i'm trying to hook a switch on the Pi's GPIO and check its status but I get random 0 and 1...
[19:17] <KameSense> i treid that : https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/robot/buttons_and_switches/
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> KameSense, you probably need a pull-up or pull-down resistor.
[19:17] <shiftplusone> or the wire is too long
[19:17] <KameSense> but that doe'nt work
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> did you include all the resistors?
[19:18] <KameSense> yes
[19:18] <KameSense> 1 10k resistor and 1 1k resistor
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> double check your wiring then. that should work just fine.
[19:18] <KameSense> :'(
[19:18] <KameSense> that's been 1 hour i'm checking my wires
[19:19] <shiftplusone> and what pin is it connected to?
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> are you sure you're reading the right pin?
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[19:19] <KameSense> wiringPi pin 7
[19:20] <KameSense> aka GPIO 7
[19:20] <shiftplusone> why wiringpi if you're using python?
[19:20] <KameSense> not using phython
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[19:20] <shiftplusone> ah
[19:21] * shiftplusone checks if wiringpi pin 7 is indeed gpio 7
[19:21] <shiftplusone> 'tis
[19:21] <KameSense> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/pins/
[19:21] <shiftplusone> and it's pin 7 on the header...... conspiracy D=
[19:21] <shiftplusone> I recommend http://wiringpi.com/pins/ instead
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[19:22] <shiftplusone> but, same thing.
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi 7 is bcm_gpio 4.
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> are you using the gpio command, or writing python?
[19:22] <KameSense> gpio command
[19:22] <shiftplusone> oh.... your table is a bit... odd...
[19:22] <KameSense> gpio mode 7 in
[19:22] <KameSense> gpio read 7
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, in what way?
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> KameSense, ok. try this: gpio mode 7 up then do the reads.
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[19:23] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, I haven't see 'GPIO' thrown in front of a pin name used for things other than actual BCM numbers.
[19:24] <shiftplusone> Kind of inconsistent with http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, it all stems from the original diagram published 2+ years ago - they called the general purpose pins GPIO 0 though 7 - so that's what I used in wiringPi. Then I got whigned that they were really 17, 18, 22/27, etc.
[19:25] <shiftplusone> I'm not against the wiringpi numbering scheme
[19:25] <shiftplusone> it's just confusing to throw GPIO in front of it.
[19:25] <shiftplusone> (under 'name')
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, the original elinux wiki page called them gpio0..7 thats where it all started.
[19:25] <shiftplusone> "Names GPIO0, GPIO1, GPIOx-ALTy, etc. refer to the signal names on the SoC as enumerated in the Broadcom datasheet, where "x" matches BCM2835 number (without leading zero) and "y" is the alternate number column 0 to 5 on page 102-103 of the Broadcom document. For example, depending on what you are describing, use either "GPIO7" to refer to a row of the table, and "GPIO7-ALT0" would refer to a specific cell of the table. "
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> looks like they changed it. Wish I still had a copy of their original diagram.
[19:26] <KameSense> gives me always 1
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> KameSense, even when you push the button?
[19:26] <shiftplusone> But hey, it's not my table. It can be as confusing as you want it to be =P.
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[19:27] <KameSense> yes
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> KameSense, ok - now try gpio mode 7 down
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> then read the button. if it's always 0 then I suspect you wiring may be wrong.
[19:27] <KameSense> always 0
[19:28] <shiftplusone> mayhaps you should take a photo of your circuit?
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[19:29] <KameSense> what pins should I use besides GPIO 7 ?
[19:29] <KameSense> any ground pin
[19:29] <KameSense> and 3,3V or 5V ?
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[19:32] <gordonDrogon> KameSense, well - if you just want a button, then personally I'd just connect any gpio pin to 0v bia the button. no resistors.
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> if you use either of the I2C pins (wiringPi 8 or 9) then the Pi already has on-board pull-ups.
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[19:33] <shiftplusone> and certainly keep 5v out of it.
[19:33] <KameSense> Ok i'll try that
[19:34] <KameSense> Next step (and goal) is to use an optical switch
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[19:34] <KameSense> Which has 3 wires
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[19:34] <gordonDrogon> KameSense, https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/3-more-leds-and-a-button/
[19:34] <gordonDrogon> have a look at that.
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[19:35] <shiftplusone> Is it common in Britain to have the washing machine in the kitchen too? =S
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> not uncommon.
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> "utility rooms" are relatively modern.
[19:35] <KameSense> thanks gordonDrogon
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[19:36] <shiftplusone> hm
[19:36] <KameSense> i have my washing machine and my dishwasherin the kitchen
[19:36] <KameSense> no room for that elsewhere
[19:36] <shiftplusone> France, yeah?
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> we moved the (clothes) washing machine to another room when we got the dishwasher.
[19:36] <KameSense> yes France
[19:36] <shiftplusone> fair enough
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[19:37] <shiftplusone> Anyway.... that was a bit.... off-topic.
[19:38] <shiftplusone> Well actually, now I'm curious. KameSense are separate taps for hot and colt water common in France too?
[19:38] <shiftplusone> *cold
[19:38] <KameSense> in old places yes
[19:38] <KameSense> not in new buildings
[19:39] <shiftplusone> Ah, I guess if Britain had new buildings.....
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[19:40] <shiftplusone> Anyway, I'll shut up before I start annoy all the Europeans too much.
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[19:41] <KameSense> broadcom pin 8, mode up
[19:41] <KameSense> i get always 1
[19:41] <KameSense> ground pin 6
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> KameSense, no need for pin 8 - gpio mode 8 off ; gpio read 8 - should read 1. connect button from pin 8 to 0v, read 0 when pushed.
[19:42] <KameSense> X'D
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[19:42] <KameSense> 8
[19:42] <KameSense> ?
[19:42] <KameSense> isn't it 15 ?
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> ok, stop now -
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> there are three pin numbering schemes.
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> The physical connector, P1 - pin numbers from 1 to 26.
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> see this page: http://wiringpi.com/pins/
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> that's the pinnout looking from the top down with centre 2 columns being the physical P1 numbers.
[19:43] <KameSense> i'm getting crazy
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> pin 2 (5v) is near the board corner.
[19:44] <KameSense> i'm using physical pins 6 (ground) and 8
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> all you need o do is look at this:
[19:44] <KameSense> so gpio read 15
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/3-more-leds-and-a-button/
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> yes, P1:8 is wiringPi 15.
[19:45] <gordonDrogon> however I'd not use that one as it's used for something else by default.
[19:45] <gordonDrogon> if you connect the button exactly as this picture: https://projects.drogon.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/tuxx_bb.jpg
[19:45] <gordonDrogon> then all you need is: gpio mode 8 in ; gpio read 8
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> then once you have established you can read the button, you have something to work from.
[19:46] <pksato> P1 8 is UART TX, need to disable UART to use this pin as IO.
[19:47] <KameSense> ok
[19:47] <KameSense> using physical pin 3 now
[19:48] <KameSense> getting random values when open, always 0 when sort
[19:48] <KameSense> short*
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> you shouldn't get random values at all.
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> really - it's impossible unless your Pi is broken.
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> the command to read that pin is gpio read 8. what command are you using?
[19:49] <KameSense> gpio read 8
[19:49] <KameSense> gpio mode 8 off
[19:49] <KameSense> gpio read 8
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> your pi is broken.
[19:49] <KameSense> :'(
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> That pin has an on-board 1.8KΩ resistor pulling it to 3.3v. it's impossible for it to float and read random.
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> same for pin 9.
[19:50] <KameSense> i'm driving a stepper motor with it and it works just fine
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> although - do you have the I2C modules loaded ?
[19:50] <KameSense> i don't know
[19:50] <pksato> try pin 7
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[19:50] <gordonDrogon> pksato, you're probably just adding confusion here.
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> what Linux did you install? raspbian or arch?
[19:51] <pksato> :)
[19:51] <KameSense> raspbian
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[19:52] <gordonDrogon> KameSense, ahd I wish you'd given us the full story - if you're already driving a stepper, then you probably have other stuff going on.
[19:52] <gordonDrogon> and you probably know how the pin numbering goes.
[19:52] <gordonDrogon> raspbian doesn't load i2c by default.
[19:53] <KameSense> i'm driving it with python
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> this really should not be rocket science.
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> if you read pin 8 or 9 - the I2C pins (that's bcm_gpio 2/3 on a Rev 2) then they should always be high.
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> unless you connect them to 0v via e.g. a switch.
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> if gpio read 8 and/or gpio read 9 is ever retuning 0 when nothing connected then your Pi is faulty.
[19:56] <KameSense> how can i read physical pin 3 with python ? it has no numer attached ?
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> it's pin 2 if you use the BCM numbers, or pin 3 if you use the BOARD numbers.
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[19:58] <gordonDrogon> you can use the board numbers in wiringPi too: gpio read 8 === gpio -g read 2 === gpio -1 read 3
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[19:59] <KameSense> lol seems to work with python
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[20:01] <gaspard> on raspbian, how do I know if I am on weezy or on jessie ? cat /etc/issue displays Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> 7 is wheezy.
[20:01] <KameSense> ok seems to be ok
[20:01] <KameSense> with python
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[20:03] <KameSense> man
[20:03] <KameSense> i just spent hours just because I was using the wrong pin
[20:03] <KameSense> i mean i pin without pull-up-thing
[20:04] <KameSense> yes i really suck at electronics
[20:04] <KameSense> even te optical switch is working just fine now
[20:04] <promet_> upside, it works!
[20:04] <KameSense> just need to code now
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[20:05] <KameSense> and _that's_ my part !
[20:05] <KameSense> thanks gordonDrogon, still haven't understood it all but it works anyhow anyways :D
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[20:19] <promet_> I have a parallax ultrasonic sensor that has a three pin interface (signal, 5v, gnd). I am forced to use the same pin, bcm 23, to both ping and read from the sensor.
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[20:19] <promet_> It's been stopping after some iterations, and needs to have the ground wire pulled and replaced to resume operation
[20:20] <promet_> Sometimes it will go for minutes, sometimes only a few seconds.
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> do youhave a resistor divider on the signal pin?
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[20:21] <promet_> not a divider, but only a single resistor
[20:21] <promet_> Must it be a divider?
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[20:21] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[20:22] <promet_> Ah, well there you go. Thanks gordonDrogon!
[20:23] <promet_> had seen a comment somewhere that a single resistor approximating the divider value would work. Just goes to show, believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see ;)
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> well - it's a start - you might be causing the Pi's input pin to latch-up by feeding it 5v...
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[20:24] <promet_> I was under the impression that the divider was meant to prevent that.
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> a divider will - single resistor won't.
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[20:24] <gordonDrogon> divider is 2 resistor.
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[20:24] <promet_> Roger that. I will tr this when I get home.
[20:25] <promet_> tr = try
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[20:25] <pksato> promet_: what is value of this resistor?
[20:26] <promet_> that's good news, because, otherwise, my ultrasonic dc motorized wheel speed test are going alright. Progress!
[20:26] <whiskers75> Guys
[20:26] <whiskers75> guys guys guys
[20:26] <whiskers75> IT WORKS
[20:26] <whiskers75> MY RASPBERRY PI IS A ROUTER
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[20:27] <promet_> whiskers75, you can now enjoy the fruits (raspberry) of your labors!
[20:27] <promet_> Zing!
[20:28] * whiskers75 is elated
[20:28] <whiskers75> I worked for ages on this
[20:28] <whiskers75> and then it all magically worked
[20:28] <whiskers75> and it dhcp'd
[20:28] <promet_> Congratulations!
[20:28] <promet_> You are totes inspiring me right now ;)
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[20:34] <serb> Jusii: i get infinite lines of decode timeout
[20:34] <serb> upon running a mkv file with omxplayer
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[20:39] <whiskers75> promet_: more plans:
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[20:39] <whiskers75> promet_: once piglow arrives, use it to show activity
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[20:40] <Davespice> ah gordonDrogon, did you do the DIY makey makey in the end then?
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[20:42] <Jusii> serb: maybe the video isn't supported then, what codec?
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[20:42] <Jusii> serb: codecs that are supported http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi_FAQ#Video_and_audio_formats_the_Raspberry_Pi_can_playback
[20:43] <Jusii> h264 / mpeg4 for best results
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[20:49] <serb> mkv though not h264
[20:49] <serb> its 640x480
[20:49] <serb> thankx anyway
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[20:52] <gordonDrogon> Davespice, no - not yet. other things to do first...
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[21:04] <Jusii> serb: yeah, mkv is just container, it matters what's in it
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[21:36] <Yugnoswam> Hi, I've been having some issues lately with my Pi which is running RaspBMC. Whenever I play a video, I'll get "Unsafe Device Removal" then a few seconds later "RECOVERED" will appear under it. The video will play to the end, but I can not get back to the menu (just grey screens), cannot pause etc or interact with the pi once that has happened. I have to remove the power from it which then gives m
[21:36] <Yugnoswam> e the "do not turn off.. blah blah" speil on the next boot. Thoughts?
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[23:43] <FrankBlues> Has anyone had success with installing AROS or Haiku on Rpi?
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[23:44] <chod> aros?
[23:45] <FrankBlues> AROS = Amiga Research OS
[23:45] <chod> cool
[23:45] <chod> is there a hal version for a pi?
[23:45] <FrankBlues> There's supposedly a port of AROS that will boot, but not much else.
[23:45] <chod> ok
[23:46] <chod> worth a play then
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[23:46] <chod> good to see the old jesus on eeees on a pi :D
[23:46] <chod> from the old demo scene
[23:47] <FrankBlues> I've been wanting to play with non-linux os's on the Pi - mostly just for fun. I had plan9 working, and RiscOS
[23:47] <chod> riscos is fast on a pi
[23:47] <chod> plan9?
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[23:47] <chod> there is a gentoo
[23:48] <FrankBlues> Plan9 is a research OS where everything is part of the filesystem.
[23:49] <chod> ish linux?
[23:50] <FrankBlues> linux if you could do literally everything from filespace
[23:51] <FrankBlues> Plan9 makes my head hurt. Lots.
[23:51] <chod> :D
[23:51] <chod> link gentoo does?
[23:51] <chod> doh]
[23:51] <chod> link gentoo building ?
[23:51] <chod> like
[23:52] <FrankBlues> Sort of...
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