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IRC Log for 2014-05-23

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[0:01] <bigx> hello, is there a way to check if a computer is a raspberry pi?
[0:01] <bigx> with some code?
[0:01] <shiftplusone> bigx, didn't I give you you a way of doing that a few days ago, or was that someone else?
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[0:02] <bigx> you're right, I use it https://github.com/stereolux/sensorsbox-rpi/blob/master/Makefile#L20
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[0:03] <shiftplusone> you need another way?
[0:03] <bigx> but i'm almost sure there is a way to "see" the words raspberry as a result of a command
[0:03] <bigx> but can't remind
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[0:04] <bigx> the raspberry pi is not the only BCM2708 based harware
[0:05] <pksato> to check if is not some clone using BCM2708?
[0:05] <shiftplusone> vcgencmd could help
[0:05] <shiftplusone> But it's not guaranteed that the user will have vcgencmd installed
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[0:06] <bigx> there is some BCM2708 that don't expose their gpios
[0:06] <shiftplusone> but would anyone run that script on those machines?
[0:07] <pksato> I think, only way do detect if is real rpi, is reading (if possible) some signature from GPU booststrap rom.
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[0:07] <bigx> shiftplusone, maybe yes, maybe no :)
[0:07] <ebswift> hey, i'm having a hard time getting screen to work from rc.local, i'm just trying to launch a python script in a screen during startup, any pointers?
[0:08] <shiftplusone> I do wonder which BCM2708 machines you have in mind
[0:09] <ebswift> the command i'm using is: screen -dmS logloop -X python /home/pi/logloop.py
[0:09] <bigx> maybe i overthink it
[0:09] <shiftplusone> no, I think it's a valid concern
[0:09] <shiftplusone> the thought crossed my mind when I gave you that command
[0:10] <shiftplusone> I just don't know what other hardware exists which uses that SoC and isn't a set top box.
[0:10] <bigx> chinese hdmi dongles
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[0:11] <shiftplusone> does it make sense to run whatever sensorbox is on them?
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[0:12] <bigx> no, but the truth is it bother me not reminding the command i'm looking for :)
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[0:13] <shiftplusone> did you maybe use uname?
[0:14] * bigx is dumb
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[0:14] <shiftplusone> ?
[0:14] <pksato> or arch
[0:15] <bigx> that's it, i completly forgot to think about uname -a
[0:15] <bigx> so...
[0:15] * bigx is dumb
[0:15] <bigx> :)
[0:15] <shiftplusone> bad solution
[0:15] * bigx is dumber
[0:15] <bigx> why?
[0:16] <shiftplusone> there are different kernels
[0:16] <shiftplusone> what does uname -m say on the pi?
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[0:16] <shiftplusone> well, actually, what does uname -a say?
[0:16] <bigx> i need to programatically make the difference between a pi and a bbb
[0:17] <bigx> uname -m says armv6l
[0:17] <shiftplusone> I think cpuinfo is the most reliable way without talking to the GPU directly.
[0:17] <shiftplusone> or going overboard and checking the firmware
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[0:19] <shiftplusone> because uname -a can say all kinds of things. Compare the output from the foundation kernel to the raspbian kernel.... chances are that the solution you have in mind won't work for both, until you take the differences into account. But that wouldn't take ALL kernels someone might run (perhaps custom) into account.
[0:19] <pksato> my pc cpu is amd or intel? grep vendor /proc/cpuinfo
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[0:21] <bigx> so i'll stick to your first solution then
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[0:21] <bigx> thanls
[0:21] <bigx> thanks
[0:25] <shiftplusone> if you know of a particular case where it doesn't work, there are additional checks you can add, but I don't think it's worth it yet.
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[0:36] <bigx> you're right shiftplusone , but could be usefull to programmatically differenciate a raspberrypi from a beagle bone black
[0:36] <bigx> for exampel
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[0:37] <shiftplusone> but cpuinfo already does that O_o
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[0:38] <bigx> oh you're right, they don't have the same cpu, let's say I haven't written the above line, ok? :)
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[0:38] <shiftplusone> yes sir
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[0:59] <blonkel> hey, is there a distributor already for the raspberrypi compute module?
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[1:02] <halabund> Hi everyone!
[1:02] <KameSense> hello
[1:02] <halabund> I just got this RPi: http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-15499 (note the SD card description).
[1:03] <halabund> Should ssh be enabled by default? I don’t have a screen or keyboard to use with the RPi. I used a crossover cable. It does get an IP number, as 192.168.2.2 responds to pings only when the RPi is powered up.
[1:03] <halabund> but ssh pi@192.168.2.2 tells me “Connection refused"
[1:04] <shiftplusone> looks like a NOOBS card
[1:04] <blonkel> maybe pi is not the right username?
[1:04] <KameSense> +1
[1:04] <shiftplusone> there's no OS installed, just an installer to install the OS you want to install
[1:04] <KameSense> how do you know the IP address of your raspi ?
[1:04] <halabund> Am I doing something wrong or should I install a different OS on the card using my laptop computer?
[1:04] <KameSense> your LAN is 192.168.2.0 ?
[1:04] <KameSense> not usual
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[1:04] <shiftplusone> you can install using NOOBS, but it's hard when it's headless.
[1:04] <shiftplusone> It's best to just install whatever OS you want from your laptop
[1:05] * KameSense doesn't like NOOBS at all
[1:05] <halabund> KameSense: By trial and error. 192.168.2.2 responds to pings only if the RPi is powered up, not otherwise. I enabled “Internet sharing” on a mac laptop and used a crossover cable to connect the Pi.
[1:05] <shiftplusone> and that'll have SSH enabled (if it's something like Raspbian or Arch)
[1:05] <KameSense> X'D
[1:05] <halabund> I don’t have a wired connection here unfortuntely so the crossover cable was the only way
[1:05] <shiftplusone> wwow
[1:05] <KameSense> you start with the hardest level i think :)
[1:05] <shiftplusone> (by the way, 'crossover' cables are pointless, modern hardware can use a normal OR a crossover cable without any issues)
[1:06] <halabund> KameSense: Well, I do have a laptop, but no external screen, keyboard or wired connection … what can I do? :-)
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[1:06] <KameSense> shiftplusone: with a little doubt, he said "mac"
[1:06] <KameSense> :D
[1:06] <KameSense> halabund: do you have a dhcp server on your mac ?
[1:07] <halabund> KameSense: Yes.
[1:07] <KameSense> how can the Pi have an IP address ?
[1:07] <KameSense> oh ok
[1:07] <KameSense> so... it should work
[1:07] <shiftplusone> KameSense, heh, it doesn't matter. As long as one device supports it, any cable will work, and the pi does.
[1:07] <KameSense> ok didn't know the pi did handle that
[1:07] <halabund> maybe it’s the OS X firewall … ? can’t be, right?
[1:07] <KameSense> didn't care anyways
[1:07] <KameSense> :D
[1:07] <shiftplusone> halabund, don't know if you didn't see it or just ignored it.... install the OS using a raw image.
[1:08] <halabund> shiftplusone: didn’t see, sorry. Which OS do you recommend for headless use? I’d like the one for which Mathematica is available for free…
[1:08] <shiftplusone> raspbian
[1:08] <KameSense> +1
[1:09] <shiftplusone> do you care if there's a lot of crap pre-installed or do you want to start with a minimal base?
[1:09] <halabund> shiftplusone: I don’t care if there’s stuff installed
[1:09] <KameSense> raspbian is just fine to begin
[1:09] <halabund> shiftplusone: so Raspbian from here, right? http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ And this one has Mathematica?
[1:09] <KameSense> arch is for hardcore geeks :D
[1:09] <shiftplusone> yeah
[1:10] <shiftplusone> KameSense, nonsense! >=/
[1:10] * KameSense is now known as NonSense
[1:10] <shiftplusone> better
[1:11] <NonSense> lol nickname registered X'D
[1:11] <shiftplusone> heh
[1:11] * NonSense is now known as KameSense
[1:11] <KameSense> got to buy a thrid raspi
[1:12] <shiftplusone> they tend to multiply if you're not careful
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[1:12] <KameSense> both first ones are very busy now :D
[1:12] <shiftplusone> with?
[1:12] <KameSense> oh
[1:13] <halabund> (…downloading…)
[1:13] <KameSense> the first is a rev B v1 with 256Mb and acts as imapfilter, quasselcore, cups, ftp, and backup server
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[1:13] <shiftplusone> for how long has the first one been doing that?
[1:13] <KameSense> the second is used to operate my... DIY dunno how you say that in english
[1:14] <KameSense> since the beginning, I pre-oredered it
[1:14] <shiftplusone> excellent
[1:14] <KameSense> I made a machine to roll heat resistance wire
[1:14] <KameSense> with the second
[1:14] <shiftplusone> heh, there were no pre-orders.... there was a massive rush and then a 3 months wait for it to ship, if you didn't get the first batch >.>
[1:14] <KameSense> using a stepper motor and a photoelectric switch
[1:15] <KameSense> shiftplusone: that's what i call preorder lol
[1:15] <KameSense> to make it simple
[1:15] <shiftplusone> heh... brought down the distributors websites XD..... good times.
[1:15] <KameSense> to roll = to put on spools
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[1:16] <KameSense> "coil winder"
[1:16] <KameSense> that's how you should call that
[1:17] <shiftplusone> how is that not just a motor and a switch?
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[1:17] <KameSense> ?
[1:18] <shiftplusone> I'm just wondering why it needs a pi. I don't understand what there is for it to do
[1:18] <KameSense> you ask for X meters and it does it
[1:18] <shiftplusone> ah
[1:19] <KameSense> telling speed, ETA, problems
[1:19] <KameSense> with variable speed
[1:19] <KameSense> oh
[1:19] <KameSense> and now it's running just perfect (2cm error for 10meters
[1:20] <KameSense> i'm looking for a buzzer and a tiny LCD scrren
[1:20] <shiftplusone> ah, so there's a bit more to it than just winding a spool.
[1:21] <KameSense> yes it is supposed to be "clever"
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[1:22] <KameSense> the best (laughing) part, is that the body is made of Legos :D
[1:22] <shiftplusone> nice
[1:22] <KameSense> I never thought I could achieve that with such good results
[1:23] <KameSense> the Pi is just in top 10 of 2010's
[1:23] <KameSense> inventions
[1:23] <KameSense> and i suck at electronics
[1:23] <KameSense> much better at programming :D
[1:24] <shiftplusone> heh, don't think I'd call it an invention, but it is awesome.
[1:24] <KameSense> thanks again for your tips you and gordonDrogo_n
[1:25] <shiftplusone> I don't think I gave any tips, but you're certainly welcome >.>
[1:25] <KameSense> i'm gonna buy a buzzer, LCD will come later :D
[1:25] <halabund> (…imaging…)
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[1:26] <shiftplusone> halabund, make sure you are writing to the sdcard and not a partition on the card
[1:27] <KameSense> and not to your main disk drive :D
[1:27] <shiftplusone> meh, better than MacOS
[1:27] <KameSense> oh
[1:27] <KameSense> yeah
[1:27] <halabund> how long is it supposed to take?
[1:28] <KameSense> and I did a thermal printer server with a driver written in C too
[1:28] <shiftplusone> elebenteen minutes
[1:28] <KameSense> for my company
[1:28] <KameSense> with a Pi
[1:29] <shiftplusone> halabund, don't cancel it, it takes a little while.
[1:29] <halabund> it’s been about 5 min
[1:29] <KameSense> depending on tha SD:)
[1:29] <shiftplusone> that's fine
[1:29] <KameSense> should be longer
[1:29] <KameSense> than 5 min
[1:31] <KameSense> shame those tools don't provide elevator waiting music
[1:31] <KameSense> :D
[1:31] <shiftplusone> heh
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[1:31] <halabund> Will I be able to use a graphical desktop through VNC or am I stuck with the terminal (and maybe X through the network)? (I have no screen or keyboard.)
[1:32] <KameSense> or at least a link to youtube nyan cat 10 hours :D
[1:32] <shiftplusone> you can use vnc
[1:32] <KameSense> yep vnc works
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[1:32] <shiftplusone> just not for fancy stuff that happens on the GPU
[1:32] <shiftplusone> minecraft and video using omxplayer, for example.... those will appear as black boxes.
[1:33] <KameSense> i wouldn't ever think of watching video through VNC lol
[1:34] <shiftplusone> I've seen someone exists gnash works great for youtube on the pi.... they used vnc to check =/
[1:34] <shiftplusone> I don't know where people get such definitions of 'great'
[1:34] <KameSense> :)
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[1:35] <KameSense> does anone knows how much V1 model B where manuafactured ?
[1:35] <KameSense> ouch
[1:35] <KameSense> anyone* manufactured*
[1:35] <halabund> it’s been about 10 minutes now ...
[1:35] <shiftplusone> halabund, make a coffee
[1:36] <KameSense> were*:-/
[1:36] <shiftplusone> KameSense, no idea, but I'd guess a few hundred thousand.
[1:37] <KameSense> i thought maybe i should keep mine as a collector and buy another to replace it
[1:37] <shiftplusone> Does yours have FCC markings?
[1:37] <KameSense> huh ?
[1:38] <shiftplusone> near the SD slot, on the top, does it say 'CE' and 'FCC' ?
[1:40] <KameSense> don't think o
[1:40] <KameSense> so
[1:40] <shiftplusone> cool, those are pretty rare.
[1:40] <KameSense> CE is on the bottom
[1:40] <KameSense> seriously ?
[1:40] <shiftplusone> not THAT rare
[1:40] <shiftplusone> hang on, let me double check my first pi.
[1:41] <KameSense> it's written 2011© en it
[1:41] <shiftplusone> yup, mine doesn't say CE or FCC
[1:42] <shiftplusone> I've put it in a box for safe keeping.
[1:42] <plugwash> The really early Pis had the regulatory markings on stickers iirc
[1:42] <plugwash> (though it wouldn't surprise me if some stickers got missed out in the rush)
[1:43] <shiftplusone> hm, never had any stickers on it
[1:43] <shiftplusone> maybe on the packaging it came with
[1:43] <KameSense> i pre ordered it by Farnell and I got a "Element 14" black t-shirt with it, i think because i waited 3 months :D
[1:43] <halabund> still writing :( nearly 20 min now
[1:43] <plugwash> later rev 1 boards had the CE/FCC marks added in a variety of places
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[1:43] <plugwash> (presumablly because different subcontractors added it seperately during the mad rush to ramp up manufacturing)
[1:43] <shiftplusone> I didn't get a shirt =(
[1:43] <KameSense> no "FCC" mark
[1:43] <shiftplusone> but you have 'CE'? O_o
[1:44] <KameSense> oh sorry
[1:44] <KameSense> FCC is near the ethernet port
[1:44] <KameSense> i was looking near the SD slot
[1:44] <KameSense> but its printed
[1:44] <shiftplusone> as plugwash said... they moved them around
[1:44] <KameSense> not a sticker
[1:44] <KameSense> and on the bottom
[1:44] <KameSense> not the top
[1:45] <KameSense> (bottom = when you fully see the SD)
[1:45] <KameSense> where*
[1:45] * KameSense needs to practice english more
[1:45] <KameSense> well
[1:46] <KameSense> i'll replace it and keep it safe
[1:46] <KameSense> "in case of"
[1:47] <KameSense> still have the packaging but i remember it was quite "raw"
[1:47] * plugwash grabs his oldest Pi, the one he bought off veryevil
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[1:48] <shiftplusone> ah, veryevil.... the guy who started the lapdock thing
[1:48] <KameSense> thanks for these info anyways
[1:48] <plugwash> mine has the CE and ROHS marks near D17 on the bottom
[1:48] <plugwash> and I can't spot a FCC mark on it
[1:49] <plugwash> shiftplusone, yeah and he sold me his second Pi (which became my first Pi)
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[1:50] <KameSense> is there a website which describes all batches ?
[1:51] <shiftplusone> there are some pages which link the revision to what factory it came from and what model it is, but that's all I can think of.
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[1:53] <halabund> 2962227200 bytes transferred in 1827.948342 secs (1620520 bytes/sec)
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[1:53] <KameSense> \o/
[1:53] <plugwash> what were you transferring?
[1:54] <KameSense> shiftplusone: any idea of keywords to google for ?
[1:55] <shiftplusone> KameSense, raspberry pi revision may bring some of it up.
[1:55] <shiftplusone> the site raspberrypi-spy.co.uk or something like that comes to mind
[1:55] <halabund> \o/ it works!!!
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[1:56] <KameSense> thx
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[1:58] <KameSense> gotthe D14 diode :)
[1:58] <KameSense> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/09/raspberry-pi-board-revisions/
[1:58] <shiftplusone> hm, a bit surprised I got the domain right off the top of my head
[1:59] <KameSense> doen'tlook like any of the pictures shown on the page
[1:59] <KameSense> but i got a black audio connector
[2:00] <shiftplusone> just check the revision in cpuinfo
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[2:01] <KameSense> 0002
[2:01] <shiftplusone> good
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[2:01] <KameSense> but no mounting holes ?
[2:01] <KameSense> so ? Oo
[2:02] <shiftplusone> nuh, that doesn't mean it's version 2
[2:02] <KameSense> ow
[2:02] <KameSense> yeah
[2:02] <KameSense> this is one of the firsts
[2:02] <shiftplusone> the first, yeah
[2:02] <shiftplusone> aside from the dev boards, which I get were 1
[2:02] <shiftplusone> *guess
[2:03] <shiftplusone> I suppose the serial is also a good indicator
[2:03] <KameSense> so 100k of these were manufactured ?
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[2:03] <shiftplusone> no idea, but I did see an image on the forum showing some statistics.... wouldn't be able to find it though
[2:05] <KameSense> not so clear according to wikipedia
[2:05] <KameSense> wikipedia fr
[2:05] <KameSense> 22th of May 2012, 20k had been produced
[2:05] <KameSense> sent*
[2:06] <KameSense> rev2 was announced on 5th september 2012
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[2:11] <KameSense> start of sale only
[2:11] <KameSense> so there might be only 20k of these in the world
[2:11] <KameSense> nice !
[2:11] <shiftplusone> doubt it
[2:11] <KameSense> i'm gonna replace it ASAP
[2:12] <KameSense> http://elinux.org/RPi_HardwareHistory
[2:12] <KameSense> Raspberry Pi 1st Production Board
[2:12] <KameSense> 10k
[2:12] <KameSense> in fact
[2:13] <shiftplusone> there's a difference between rev1 and first batch
[2:13] <shiftplusone> there were lots more produced after the first batch
[2:13] <shiftplusone> and they were still rev1
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[2:15] <KameSense> can't find a link btw serial # and revision on google :/
[2:15] <KameSense> but it _must_ exist
[2:15] <shiftplusone> can't make that connection
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[2:18] <KameSense> i think i'll keep it safe though
[2:18] <KameSense> might be worth it
[2:19] <KameSense> and even just for the memories :D
[2:19] <shiftplusone> aye, I'm keeping mine for the sentimental value
[2:19] <shiftplusone> I don't think it will be worth anything
[2:20] <KameSense> what ? your sentimental value ? :D
[2:21] <shiftplusone> eh? O_o
[2:21] <KameSense> [02:19:24] <shiftplusone> I don't think it will be worth anything
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[2:21] <KameSense> just kidding here :p
[2:22] <shiftplusone> you'll get the hang of it
[2:22] <shiftplusone> out of curiosity, what's the serial number?
[2:23] <shiftplusone> (you can sensor out the last few characters, if you think there's a security issue)
[2:23] <KameSense> mmh
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[2:24] <KameSense> easy to brute force :D
[2:24] <KameSense> i don't care
[2:24] <shiftplusone> 000000009ad5ed5e here
[2:24] <KameSense> 00000000a70c397b
[2:25] <KameSense> :)
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[2:25] <plugwash> <KameSense> rev2 was announced on 5th september 2012 <-- rev1 boards were still being shipped some time after rev2 was announced
[2:25] <KameSense> yeah no doubt
[2:26] <plugwash> and even some time after 512M was announced (despite what the foundation said)
[2:26] <KameSense> serial number in dec makes 2802596219
[2:27] <Datalink> I'd say it's safe to say that by 2013 there was still a limited stock of Rev1 boards, I have a rev1
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[2:27] <KameSense> no link with prod number then...
[2:27] <KameSense> yeah rev1 but revision 0003
[2:27] <Datalink> I actually want to replace it, but haven't yet as it's image is so old it won't boot on new iron
[2:27] <KameSense> or revision 0002 ?
[2:27] <shiftplusone> revision 0002 were still shipped KameSense
[2:27] <shiftplusone> lots of them
[2:27] <KameSense> ok
[2:28] <KameSense> i see
[2:28] <KameSense> you won't let me dream
[2:28] <KameSense> thank you very much
[2:28] <KameSense> X'D
[2:28] <shiftplusone> fine
[2:28] <shiftplusone> only one was ever made
[2:28] <Datalink> the studio I volunteer at has 2 v.2 boards... one of which is currently sitting in my living room waiting for me to turn it into a live video stream tool, the other is currently serving the city's public meeting calendar
[2:29] <KameSense> 1) tiny multi-purpose server 2) coil winding DIY machine 3) thermal printer server for restaurants
[2:30] <KameSense> and i'm gonna buy one for my parent's house
[2:30] <KameSense> or two
[2:30] <Datalink> I'm thinking of getting a friend set up with one for a living room media center
[2:30] <shiftplusone> hm..... the very first few pis did have serial numbers starting from 01, so I have no idea why our serial numbers are so high
[2:30] <KameSense> to do some home automation and watch
[2:31] <KameSense> shiftplusone: yes i doubt there is some link with rev number indeed
[2:31] <KameSense> the raspberry is so versatile for its cost
[2:31] <KameSense> its really an amazing toy
[2:32] <KameSense> "toy" is not the right word :D
[2:32] <KameSense> tool ?
[2:32] <KameSense> device !:
[2:32] <KameSense> yes device is a nice word in english :D
[2:32] <shiftplusone> toy is the right word
[2:32] <KameSense> which means nothing :D
[2:32] <KameSense> yes, toy for us
[2:32] <KameSense> but tool for others
[2:33] <KameSense> both for some
[2:33] <shiftplusone> the intended purpose is a toy
[2:33] <KameSense> "an awesome device" seems to be fine :D
[2:33] <KameSense> as a description
[2:33] <KameSense> shiftplusone: yeah you're right
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[2:36] <plugwash> shiftplusone, iirc they moved to using random serial numbers at some point
[2:36] <plugwash> probablly easier than coordinating batches
[2:36] <shiftplusone> ah
[2:37] <KameSense> [02:36:27] <plugwash> probablly easier than coordinating batches <- that doesn't help avoiding collisions
[2:37] <KameSense> at all
[2:37] <shiftplusone> that was why I said you can't link revision to serial number, since it would be very hard to make sure a certain factory gets a certain range of serial numbers and then uses it for a specific revision... that just wouldn't make sense.
[2:37] * plugwash isn't sure if they are bothering to avoid collisions
[2:38] <KameSense> for the mpeg license ?
[2:38] <KameSense> at least
[2:38] <plugwash> what's the chances of one customer ending up with two Pis with the same serial if they are assigned randomly
[2:38] <shiftplusone> KameSense, that's as much of a security concern as randomly generating keys to unlock the licenses would be.
[2:39] <KameSense> that wouldn't be serious at all, before everything else lol
[2:40] <shiftplusone> Hell, there's nothing preventing you from getting a bitcoin account with millions of dollars in it, the private keys there are random too.
[2:40] <shiftplusone> well, wallet, not 'account'
[2:40] <KameSense> seriously ?
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[2:41] <shiftplusone> aye
[2:41] <plugwash> The chances of it happening are incrediblly small
[2:41] <KameSense> like national lottery ? :D
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[2:41] <plugwash> like they make winning the national lottery look highly likely by comparision
[2:41] <shiftplusone> aye
[2:42] <KameSense> are there people who are running clusters to create X wallets a day and check them ? :D
[2:42] <shiftplusone> even if you have your computer constantly generating wallets and scraping them for money, if there are any
[2:42] <shiftplusone> heh
[2:42] <shiftplusone> we were thinking along the same lines
[2:42] <plugwash> KameSense, doing so would be pointless
[2:42] <KameSense> :D
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[2:43] <plugwash> The chance of winning is like the chance of winning the national lottery every week for months in a row buying only one ticket each week
[2:43] <KameSense> (shiftplusone: yes but you are saying it much better than myself :/)
[2:43] <plugwash> (exactly how many months I haven't worked out)
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[2:43] <KameSense> okay
[2:43] <shiftplusone> so yeah.... random serials would not be that much of an issue
[2:44] <KameSense> i own an online shop
[2:44] <KameSense> i always ask myself if i should accept bitcoins
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[2:44] <KameSense> but i don't know much about that "money"
[2:44] <KameSense> and it's popularity
[2:44] <KameSense> its*
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[2:44] <shiftplusone> KameSense, doesn't matter, you can use a service which accepts bitcoins, but you get dollars.
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[2:45] <KameSense> like ?
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[2:45] <shiftplusone> I don't know, check ryantech's site.
[2:45] <KameSense> paypal doesn't do it, am I wrong ?
[2:46] <shiftplusone> paypal doesn't do anything of the sort
[2:46] <KameSense> i saw microsoft on ryantech's website
[2:46] <KameSense> i closed the tab quickly
[2:46] <shiftplusone> eh?
[2:46] <halabund> Did the Mathematica version shipped with raspbian ever get updated?
[2:46] <shiftplusone> different ryan....
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[2:47] <shiftplusone> KameSense, sec, let me check
[2:47] <KameSense> halabund: did you apt-get update / upgrade ?
[2:47] <shiftplusone> can't find it, but he did mention he used something like that to accept bitcoin payments
[2:48] <KameSense> mmh
[2:48] <KameSense> gonna search for "prestashop bitcoin" maybe lol
[2:48] <halabund> KameSense: it’s running now … just wondering and a bit impatient :-) the version that came with it is from November 2013 which is pretty old and buggy
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[2:49] <shiftplusone> it was probably bitpay
[2:49] <KameSense> apt operations are quite slow if you didn't noatime and nodiratime
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[2:49] <shiftplusone> https://bitpay.com/
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[2:49] <halabund> KameSense: thanks for the tip! didn’t know about this
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[2:50] <KameSense> seems to be quite a lot of results for "prestashop bitcoin" :D
[2:50] <KameSense> halabund: shame it's not by default i think
[2:50] <KameSense> it speeds up the Pi badly
[2:51] <shiftplusone> badly?
[2:51] <shiftplusone> or greatly?
[2:51] <KameSense> very much
[2:51] <KameSense> badly in a positive way :D
[2:51] <shiftplusone> speeding up badly sounds like slowing down
[2:51] <KameSense> _up_
[2:51] <KameSense> up is up :D
[2:51] <shiftplusone> slowing up?
[2:52] <KameSense> speeding up :D
[2:52] <KameSense> don't make me say what i didn't say
[2:52] <shiftplusone> but up is up, so slowing up should be speeding down.
[2:52] <KameSense> :D
[2:52] <KameSense> [02:50:53] <KameSense> it speeds up the Pi badly
[2:52] <KameSense> never said slow
[2:52] * shiftplusone stops trying to confuse the Frenchman.
[2:52] <KameSense> lol
[2:53] <KameSense> "badly" doesn't mean "consequently", by extension ?
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[2:53] <KameSense> or just "much"
[2:53] <shiftplusone> I can't parse that question.
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[2:53] <KameSense> maybe more a UK way to say things than US
[2:54] <halabund> KameSense: Any other first time setup tips?
[2:54] <shiftplusone> out of curiosity, why do you want mathematica?
[2:55] <KameSense> halabund: let me check
[2:55] <halabund> shiftplusone: I want to use the RPi as a wildlife camera (got a NoIR camera too). I can use Mma for image processing, such as detecting motion, colour, etc. I use Mma daily and I’m very comfortable programming things like this with it.
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[2:56] <shiftplusone> hm
[2:56] <shiftplusone> I wonder how well it performs on the pi for such things
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[2:57] <halabund> Well, the image processing building blocks are built-in and optimized. And I don’t need excellent performance. I don’t expect to be able to do real-time image processing.
[2:57] <halabund> KameSense: noatime is there by default, it seems. But not nodiratime
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[2:58] <shiftplusone> ah okay, I thought this was for real-time stuff
[2:58] <halabund> shiftplusone: no, Mathematica doesn’t work for real-time anything, even on a very fast desktop.
[2:58] <shiftplusone> nice
[2:58] <halabund> KameSense: https://www.dropbox.com/s/th1exmyg35tsqxx/Screenshot%202014-05-22%2020.58.12.png
[2:58] <KameSense> my blog is down for some reason
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[2:59] <KameSense> add nodiratime
[2:59] <KameSense> will be even faster
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[3:02] <KameSense> dunno why my blog is down and i got all pi base-optimizations on it
[3:02] <KameSense> sorry
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[3:10] <KameSense> ah he's gone
[3:10] <KameSense> retrieved this http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=850
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[3:13] <shiftplusone> "Since the Pi doesn't have much RAM, I'm going to assume a swap partition is needed. Probably 128, 256 or 512 MB, it really depends of what software you're running and your usage patterns. Let's go for 256 MB."
[3:13] <shiftplusone> Not the best source based on that statement
[3:14] <shiftplusone> but I guess back then the model a has 128MB RAM, so maybe some swap wouldn't be too bad then.
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[3:16] <KameSense> old article
[3:16] <KameSense> yes
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[3:24] <KameSense> are there any famous-working-roxxing-with-the-pi-LCD displays on dx.com ?
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[3:36] <KameSense> or something like http://www.dx.com/p/8-segment-led-display-board-module-for-arduino-147814?Utm_rid=58973692&Utm_source=affiliate#.U36lwXJb9uk
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[3:40] <shiftplusone> Oh, you don't need a colour LCD, just a char display?
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[7:07] <Twist-> heh.. I never learn. "sure, I'll just encode highres h.264 video right on the pi!"
[7:07] <Twist-> ...time passes...
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[7:35] <swiss> OH MAN
[7:35] <swiss> http://www.mausberrycircuits.com/collections/car-power-supply-switches/products/2a-car-supply-switch
[7:35] <swiss> YES YES YES
[7:36] <swiss> i was working on building this circuit, but it was a lot of work, and was gonna be jenky
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[7:37] <_jack_> all I know about electricity is somehow 3.3/5/12v is created
[7:37] <_jack_> and sometimes you use a resistor for good measure
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[7:38] <shiftplusone> swiss, how does that help you? O_o
[7:39] <shiftplusone> it's sold out and those guys don't don't seem to provide schematics
[7:39] <_jack_> it performs magic and creates electricity
[7:39] <swiss> shiftplusone: the 3a isn't
[7:39] <swiss> _jack_: it's really the shutdown signal that I was going to have a jenky circuit for
[7:39] <_jack_> who needs schematics when you have magic
[7:39] <shiftplusone> ah, that's good
[7:39] <swiss> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6W6IrAlcg8 this is what my pi does so far (might have cursing in the video, not sure)
[7:40] <swiss> well, it's more accurate and updates quicker than that
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[7:40] <swiss> and that was on my last engine... I have to run a few more wires to make it work with the new engine
[7:40] <shiftplusone> should've had a terrible music warning rather than a cursing warning D=
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[7:40] <swiss> lol
[7:41] <shiftplusone> good job though
[7:41] <swiss> you don't like t-ara?
[7:41] <swiss> :P
[7:41] <shiftplusone> no sir
[7:42] <_jack_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiVNNNg9Ldc
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[7:42] <_jack_> i think i'm done with this project now
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[7:43] <_jack_> i added a green + red led that blinks when you are granted or denied access after that video
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[8:00] <Twist-> so does anyone have a good toolchain for converting a sequence of image files to an mpeg with reasonable performance? Supposedly the GPU on the Pi is capable, but none of the major transcoding apps appear to use it.
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[8:03] <Jusii> was it maybe some version of gstreamer that had some support
[8:07] <Twist-> ls
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[8:43] <saif_forge> finally got everything up and running
[8:43] <cairne> anyone have issues with images from raspberry pi website?
[8:44] <saif_forge> I was wondering if anyone knew how to play youtube vids
[8:44] <saif_forge> html5
[8:44] <cairne> on the raspberry pi?
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[8:44] <Triffid_Hunter> saif_forge: feed 'em to omxplayer
[8:44] <saif_forge> cairne, i installed using noobs not 4 days ago its working fine
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[8:45] <cairne> i've tried even with html 5, usually causes browser to freeze
[8:45] <saif_forge> Triffid_Hunter, just copy and paste the address/
[8:45] <saif_forge> ?
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[8:45] <saif_forge> cairne browsing isnt that snappy
[8:45] <saif_forge> period
[8:46] <saif_forge> uzbl and netsurf are ok
[8:46] <Triffid_Hunter> saif_forge: no, feed it the video file off youtube's site or at least the url
[8:46] <saif_forge> omxplayer is tremendous
[8:47] <Triffid_Hunter> I have a script that parses the fmt_encoded_stream_url_map scraped from youtube, then feeds to wget to download the actual video
[8:47] <Triffid_Hunter> could just as easily feed that to omx instead of wget if you just want to stream instead of saving
[8:47] <saif_forge> currently talking to you gents via raspberry pi haha
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[8:48] <cairne> what client issi?
[8:48] <saif_forge> xchat actually
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[8:48] <cairne> wow nice
[8:48] <saif_forge> though i do miss irssi
[8:49] <saif_forge> cairne honestly im surprised as hell with this device
[8:49] <saif_forge> using raspbian and lxde
[8:49] <cairne> i've had things bog down way to much using raspbian, i typically just go arch with it
[8:49] <saif_forge> it chugs along nicely
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[8:50] <saif_forge> arch is my preferred distro
[8:50] <saif_forge> but i was thinking of seeing how bsd fairs on this device
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[8:51] <saif_forge> interestingly enough i found pidora snappier than raspbian
[8:51] <saif_forge> weird considering that xfce is a bit heftier
[8:51] <cairne> i've installed the image, but haven't played with it much
[8:52] <saif_forge> i had to screw around with the video settings as my tv is a bit mental
[8:53] <saif_forge> i've yet to experiment with overclocking
[8:54] <cairne> not much more then default settings on over clocking
[8:55] <saif_forge> really?
[8:55] <cairne> thats all ive ever gone with it
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[8:55] <cairne> how was using noobs i've never gone that route, always do my images by dd
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[8:56] <saif_forge> cairne its the simplest route
[8:56] <saif_forge> has this nifty recovery mode too
[8:57] <saif_forge> you can switch between distros nicely
[8:58] <cairne> lol sounds fun, would save on the 8 sd cards i have
[8:58] <saif_forge> im using wifi and a bluetooth keyboard and its stood up well so far
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[8:59] <saif_forge> im literally wondering right this second if i should switch to arch
[8:59] <saif_forge> arch+i3 would be a great combo
[8:59] <cairne> hahaha yea
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[9:00] <saif_forge> its my preferred setup
[9:00] <saif_forge> i3 is nice
[9:00] <saif_forge> ive used many tiling wms
[9:01] <saif_forge> keep coming back to i3
[9:01] <saif_forge> if its good enough for kroah-hartman its good enough for me
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[9:02] <cairne> haha, i was just sick of reinstalling every six month
[9:02] <saif_forge> (hope i didnt misspell that)
[9:03] <saif_forge> cairne rolling stable releases are great
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[9:04] <cairne> so far its been good, install went sideways on me originally but i cleared it up just had to hose whole system
[9:04] <saif_forge> thats great news
[9:04] <saif_forge> im psyched
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[9:06] <cairne> nice
[9:07] <saif_forge> im thinking of getting a camera for the pi
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[9:08] <cairne> there are a lot of fun projects to do with it
[9:08] <saif_forge> yes
[9:09] <saif_forge> that much is becoming clearer to me every second I have this on
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[12:44] <whatlad> hello raspberry pi people of the world
[12:45] <Squarepy> o/
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[13:07] <Encrypt> Hi whatlad o/
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[14:10] <causality> good afteron; are there any utils in raspbian for just capturing serial port/uart data? e.g. some kind of terminal program
[14:10] <ppq> minicom
[14:11] <mike_t> picocom
[14:12] <mike_t> and cat :)
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[14:39] <whatlad> how can i change my boot process so it boots from the USB
[14:39] <whatlad> i know i edit cmdline.txt but im not sure about rootwait or rootdelay
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[15:47] <IT_Sean> o/
[15:48] <atouk> \o
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[15:58] <IT_Sean> o
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[17:13] <gazzwi86> Quick question around airplay: I just got shairport working for audio and was wondering how I could get video working as well?
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[17:28] <beaky> hello
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[17:28] <beaky> can i use a usb camera with the pi for livefeed
[17:32] <Twist-> gazzwi86: shairport doesn't support video as far as I know. xbmc does, but only v1 of the protocol.
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[17:33] <Twist-> gazzwi86: so no luck with DRM protected video
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[17:42] * shiftplusone sighs
[17:42] <shiftplusone> Damn, I was quite excited about the Witcher 2 port for linux
[17:43] <gazzwi86> beaky: yes
[17:43] <beaky> wow you can run the witcher 2 on the pi?
[17:43] <shiftplusone> lol, nuh not the pi. pc
[17:43] <beaky> gazzwi86: what kind of video/audio/image quality should i expect?
[17:43] <gazzwi86> thanks for the info Twist-
[17:43] <beaky> shiftplusone: oh :( I can hardly even run SNES emulators on the pi
[17:43] <shiftplusone> heh
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[17:45] <gazzwi86> beaky: I had something working ages ago but just with one user accessing it
[17:46] <gazzwi86> low quality about 4-600 pixels height
[17:46] <beaky> I guess for multiple users I can have some proxy help
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[17:46] <gazzwi86> yeh, that was my thoughts when doing the experiment
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[17:46] <gazzwi86> do you need audio as well?
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[17:47] <gazzwi86> I used a python jpgstreamer before, I forget the name of the package. I’m sure there will be something nicer written with Node.js now. I saw some sort of video streaming in the node / opencv packages
[17:48] <tig|> using the pi camera I streamed it with gstreamer
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[17:50] <gazzwi86> tig|: does that create a moving jpg essentially? it sounds familiar
[17:52] <tig|> H264 stream when I did it
[17:53] <whatlad> is there a way to get a pi to boot NOOBS installer from a USB. i've done the cmdline.txt and fstab part but it's having a kernel panic rather than booting
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[18:01] <whatlad> or more to the point
[18:02] <whatlad> is there a way to get access to the file system after a kernal panic
[18:02] <rosapoP> got a new raspberry pi and the raspi-config does not fix overscan is there a manual way?
[18:02] <shiftplusone> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
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[18:07] <rosapoP> can i do that from inside the pi, if so where are the files to edit (NOOBS hides them from windows)?
[18:08] <shiftplusone> NOOBS doesn't hide anything, windows does. Yeah, you can do it on the pi.
[18:08] <shiftplusone> NOOBS recovery has an option to edit config.txt or you can boot the distro and edit /boot/config.txt
[18:09] <whatlad> guys sorry to disturb but i've got a kernel panic that is preventing startup. i know why, its because i changed cmdline.txt
[18:09] <whatlad> but i have a backup. how do i get into the file system to restore it
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[18:09] <shiftplusone> whatlad, reading the card on your PC is not an option?
[18:10] <whatlad> i could put it into a windows pc, will i be able to replace cmdline.txt from there?
[18:10] <Willd> Sure, /boot is fat32
[18:10] <shiftplusone> if it's not a NOOBS install
[18:10] <whatlad> it is a noobs install, but if /boot is fat :O
[18:11] <shiftplusone> Willd, NOOBS installs have multiple fat32 partitions and windows will only see the first one.
[18:11] <Willd> Ah, silly windows.
[18:11] <whatlad> is there no like emergency kernel i can assign just to get in or somethin
[18:12] <shiftplusone> if it's a NOOBS install, you should be able to edit cmdline.txt from recovery as well
[18:12] <whatlad> what's recovery
[18:12] <shiftplusone> but I am not sure
[18:12] <shiftplusone> it might be config.txt only
[18:12] <shiftplusone> check anyway
[18:12] <shiftplusone> hold shift while booting
[18:13] <whatlad> k i'll try that
[18:14] <whatlad> i don't think it's picking up the keyboard since the panic
[18:14] <shiftplusone> NOOBS should be independent of any of that.
[18:14] <shiftplusone> are you sure it's a NOOBS install and not a raw image install?
[18:15] <whatlad> it was a noobs install which fully installed and worked
[18:15] <whatlad> so now it's a raspbian image i guess?
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[18:15] <shiftplusone> no no, if it's NOOBS, it's NOOBS, it just seems like you might not be describing the problem fully
[18:16] <whatlad> okay, well basically what i did was
[18:16] <whatlad> i installed raspbian on to the SD card, then i changed fstab so my USB HDD would auto mount, then i changed cmdline.txt so that the root would be on the USB HDD
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[18:16] <whatlad> this causes a no init option kernel panic
[18:16] <whatlad> and unresponsive keyboard
[18:16] <rosapoP> fixed it config.txt had conflicting disable_overscan values so it forced overscan
[18:17] <whatlad> to be clear, i installed raspbian via NOOBS-lite
[18:17] <shiftplusone> whatlad, which cmdline.txt did you change? was it mounted in the OS as /boot or did you perchance edit the NOOBS cmdline.txt (if there is one)
[18:17] <rosapoP> my 256 model b did not have that problem
[18:17] <whatlad> it was the one in /boot
[18:18] <whatlad> so it's looking for the root file system on the USB HDD but it isn't there
[18:18] <shiftplusone> and what happens when you boot and hold shift?
[18:18] <whatlad> nothing, coz it doesn't recognise shift
[18:18] <rosapoP> but it was ages i had a screen hooked up to that
[18:18] <whatlad> keyboard unresponsive
[18:18] <shiftplusone> do you even get a screen saying something like 'press shift to boot into recovery' ?
[18:19] <whatlad> no, it just does some startup stuff, then says kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. try passing init = op0tion to kernel
[18:20] <whatlad> what i was going for, i've got NOOBS-lite on the USB HDD, so i wanted to see if rather than copy the SD filesystem
[18:20] <shiftplusone> some conflicting information there..... a NOOBS install will show a screen about recovery and pressing shift before it boots an OS
[18:20] <whatlad> if i could install directly via the USB HDD in noobs
[18:20] <whatlad> hmm dunno what to tell you. used noobs, no shift message
[18:20] * shiftplusone shrugs
[18:21] <rosapoP> NOOBS only runs from SD card
[18:21] <rosapoP> iirc
[18:21] <shiftplusone> yes
[18:21] <lord4163> test test test
[18:21] <whatlad> fair enough
[18:21] <shiftplusone> but it doesn't prevent you from using noobs to boot an OS from USB
[18:21] <rosapoP> lord4163: test failed
[18:22] <lord4163> rosapoP: sudo test
[18:22] <whatlad> yeah, i just wanted to see if i could install via NOOBS onto the USB rather than transfer the file system over
[18:22] <whatlad> guess not
[18:22] <shiftplusone> nope, not an option
[18:22] <shiftplusone> look up berryboot
[18:23] <rosapoP> lord4163: user lord4163 not in group sudoers (event will be logged)
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[18:23] <lord4163> rosapoP: haha
[18:23] <whatlad> okay, thanks for your help guys
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[19:44] <beaky> hello
[19:44] <Encrypt> Hi beachandbytes
[19:44] <beaky> is it okay to use both wifi dongle and usb webcam on the usb of the pi
[19:44] <Encrypt> beaky, *
[19:44] <Encrypt> Yes, it should
[19:44] <Encrypt> However, if I were you, I'd plug it into a USB Hub
[19:45] <beaky> it works!
[19:45] <beaky> btw how long will a pi last on 4 AA batteries
[19:46] <Gadgetoid> beaky: depends which model and what it's doing
[19:47] <Gadgetoid> beaky: Google "raspberry pi on batteries" for an exhaustive guide from Dave Akerman
[19:48] <beaky> awesome guide thanks!
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[19:48] <beaky> im using a SEPIC dc-dc
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[19:49] <Gadgetoid> yeah I discovered the guide today, it's thorough! might have to do his mod on a model A for robot projects
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[19:57] <Fooman2011> hello. I would like to create a power switch for my raspberrypi. When the switch will be pushed, the raspberry send the halt command. My question is, is there a way to know when the raspberry has finished the halt execution ? (Becaause I want to know when the DC power can be cut off).
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[20:05] <Fooman2011> Anyone here ?
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[20:07] <shiftplusone> Fooman2011, run /names
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[20:12] <IT_Sean> Fooman2011: there are 417 people here.
[20:12] <Fooman2011> ok thanks :) but I'm looking for someone who can answer to my question :)
[20:12] <shiftplusone> we did =(
[20:13] <shiftplusone> what are you using to control your circuit?
[20:13] <shiftplusone> is it a microcontroller?
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[20:17] <Fooman2011> Yeah
[20:17] <Fooman2011> I will use a microcontroller
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[20:17] <shiftplusone> then I believe you can use the serial port to check if it's down
[20:17] <Fooman2011> I would like to know when I can trun off the DC power
[20:17] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, do you know the details?
[20:18] <shiftplusone> he's a bit busy right now, but you'll want to check with him
[20:18] <Fooman2011> gordonDrogon ?
[20:18] <Fooman2011> Oh ok
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[20:28] <Fooman2011> shiftplusone thanks but gordonDrogon seems to be busy :/ Could you tell me more about the "serial port check" ?
[20:29] <shiftplusone> I'm not even sure of the serial thing. I just know that at least of of the pins does something that you can use to detect that it's down.
[20:30] <shiftplusone> but I don't know the specifics without digging through chat logs where it was discussed earlier
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[20:31] <felipealmeida> Hello
[20:31] <shiftplusone> hi
[20:32] <felipealmeida> My OMX_EmptyThisBuffer hangs
[20:32] * shiftplusone hides
[20:32] <felipealmeida> :)
[20:32] <shiftplusone> good luck
[20:32] <felipealmeida> while doing OMX with OMX.broadcom.image_decode with OMX.broadcom.egl_render
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[20:33] <felipealmeida> It loads 6 buffers (two cycles, there are only three buffers)
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[20:33] <felipealmeida> after that OMX_EmptyThisBuffer hangs and never returns
[20:34] <felipealmeida> it always happens the same way
[20:34] <shiftplusone> I think the forum is the better place to ask
[20:34] <shiftplusone> with the specific code snippet attached
[20:35] <felipealmeida> I see, thanks
[20:35] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=70
[20:35] <shiftplusone> since that's where the people who conjured up this thing hang out.
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[20:37] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, hello?
[20:38] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, what was the method to tell that the pi has halted from a microcontroller?
[20:38] <shiftplusone> I vaguely recall you mentioning something about using uart for that
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> easiest is to monitor the serial Tx pin. when it goes low, the Pi has halted.
[20:38] <shiftplusone> ah, thanks
[20:38] <shiftplusone> Fooman2011
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> however you need to guard against it being low for some time (miliseconds?) at power-on time, so you don't pull the plug too early (if that's the intention)
[20:39] <gordonDrogon> Fooman2011, did you get that?
[20:39] <Fooman2011> mmh
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[20:40] <gordonDrogon> this feature is already used on at least one little board I have seen.
[20:41] <gordonDrogon> it has an attiny85 on board.
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[20:42] <Fooman2011> I have a micro controller which send a halt signal to the raspberry pi (trought a gpio pin). Then the microcontroller has to have a way to know when it can stop the DC power of the raspberry (after the end of the halt process).
[20:42] <gordonDrogon> so look at the serial Tx pin.
[20:42] <Fooman2011> Yeah ok thank you for the info :)
[20:43] <gordonDrogon> it might be prudent to bias it low - I think the pins actually go into tristate mode - not 100% sure, but a 100K pull-down won't hurt.
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> I'm fairly sure that all pins are tristated at halt time though, so you could use any pin - even the one you're using to send the signal to the pi in the first place if you wanted to be economical on pins.
[20:45] <Fooman2011> Ok thanks.
[20:45] <gordonDrogon> back to the kitchen for me. laters...
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[20:50] <wbk> hi guys
[20:50] <wbk> how muck current rpi needs in input?
[20:50] <Fooman2011> USB deviced plugged ?
[20:50] <wbk> no
[20:50] <shiftplusone> depends on the model, load and what you have plugged in
[20:50] <wbk> model B
[20:51] <pksato> on power input?
[20:51] <wbk> yes
[20:51] <shiftplusone> something near 400mA, but you should use at least a 700mA supply (preferably more)
[20:51] <SixtyFold> how many rPis can you pretty much connect to a computer via USB?
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[20:51] <wbk> i have a 700mA supply, it's good?
[20:52] <shiftplusone> it should work
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[20:52] <pksato> if is really 700mA, is ok.
[20:52] <shiftplusone> SixtyFold, none, that's a terrible idea, although it 'may' work for one.
[20:52] <wbk> 400mA, and do I need to add usb source?
[20:52] <SixtyFold> terrible idea? it's one of it's main selling points from the beginning
[20:52] <wbk> how much current for usb port needs?
[20:52] <pksato> but, most PSU lie about power rating.
[20:52] <shiftplusone> The pi was NEVER meant to be powered from you computer's USB port
[20:53] <shiftplusone> hell, the microusb port was a rather late design addition
[20:53] <SixtyFold> interesting, all the articles there were when it first got pretty popular made this claim
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[20:54] <wbk> no, I would like to know how much current is needed to power an usb connected device at the maximum load
[20:54] <shiftplusone> wbk, maximum? 500mA per device, more for things like hard drives.
[20:54] <shiftplusone> normally, much lower.
[20:55] <wbk> so, 500mA for usb + 400 for rpi ?
[20:55] <shiftplusone> very roughly
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[20:58] <shiftplusone> If you need hard numbers, you'll need to make measurements under the conditions you're interested in.
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[20:59] <felipealmeida> shouldn't OMX image decoding be fast?
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[21:00] <shiftplusone> for jpeg, at least, I would imagine so.
[21:00] <felipealmeida> PNG?
[21:01] <shiftplusone> I haven't seen anything about the GPU having hw acceleration for png decoding, but I don't know.
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[21:35] <heewa> Anyone have any tips on troubleshooting sharing ethernet from mac to RPi? Pi gets an address, but can't reach anything from it, and can't reach Pi from mac.
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[23:10] <RaptorJesus> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/USB300U/1084-1017-ND/4383699
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[23:12] <SuperKoos> Sweet
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