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IRC Log for 2014-05-29

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[0:07] <hfp> Well I intend to get a measurement every minute (but maybe I'll average 3 readings over the minute to get something more accurate and account for misreads). The goal is to monitor a wine cellar. It will log temp and pressure to a DB and have a little webapp in Rails. I don't think that would be high use enough to disrupt the timings? Or should I look for something I2C/SPI?
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[0:08] <hfp> Adding an Arduino in the middle will cost too much, I might as well buy the SPI 30+$ sensor right away
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[0:08] <signo5> i'm about to order a card to use with my rpi. is there any performance difference between SD cards and MicroSD cards assuming the same speed class?
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[0:14] <hfp> signo5: Not that I know of.
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[0:16] <plugwash> signo5, I doubt the packaging makes any difference but there are certainly massive differences between different makes and models of card
[0:18] <signo5> plugwash: any recommendations? was looking at http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSDHC-Adapter-Frustration-Free-Packaging/dp/B009QZH7BU/ and http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Class-Flash-Memory-TS32GSDHC10E/dp/B003VNKNF0
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[0:20] <plugwash> I don't keep track of particular models but AIUI genuine samsung and sandisk cards are generally among the best
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[0:20] <plugwash> beware of fakes though, buying from amazon themselves is probablly fairly safe but I wouldn't buy from a third party amazon seller.
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[0:28] <ShadowJK> Samsung Pro, Sandisk Ultra. Generally good choices
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[0:32] <steve_rox> battery 7.1 now almost 4 hours
[0:32] <hfp> I can buy any I2C humidity sensor, all I need to get readings from it is an I2C library, correct?
[0:33] <signo5> plugwash: cool, thanks for the advice
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[0:40] <klebz> hello, can i have some help here http://pastebin.com/bbTjsrkv ?
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[0:45] <klebz> :<
[0:48] <klebz> next line in that log shouldve been [ 165.453451] usb 1-1: ath9k_htc: Firmware htc_9271.fw requested which is what i see on kali desktop
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[1:09] <ShorTie> klebz, did you get the firmware ??
[1:09] <ShorTie> this might help https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc
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[1:17] <klebz> ShorTie yes the firmware is im the lib/firmware folder
[1:17] <klebz> i even d\led it again but its the same md5
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[1:19] <steve_rox> these batts are lasting well
[1:19] <miceiken> bats are blind
[1:19] <steve_rox> thats true
[1:20] <miceiken> ;)
[1:20] <steve_rox> they at 7.0v now
[1:21] <miceiken> portable rpi?
[1:21] <steve_rox> somewhat
[1:21] <miceiken> no screen i take it
[1:22] <steve_rox> it has a screen
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[1:22] <steve_rox> running off 8 lith ion cells
[1:22] <steve_rox> taken from laptop battery packs
[1:24] <miceiken> nice
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[1:24] <steve_rox> uptime is almost 5 hours
[1:25] <miceiken> how much % left?
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[1:25] <steve_rox> no idea
[1:25] <steve_rox> ive got nothing to sence that
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[1:25] <steve_rox> i have to avoid letting batts drain below 3v
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[1:26] <miceiken> imo you should plug in a cd player and setup a eject/deject script - that will test their capacity
[1:26] <steve_rox> this is just a idle test at moment
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[1:28] <steve_rox> switching off the lcd would exend the power runtime too
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[1:42] <SuperKoos> Where's the screen from?
[1:42] <steve_rox> its a composite car reverseing lcd adapted to 5v
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[1:43] <SuperKoos> Nice. I was considering one of those too
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[1:44] <steve_rox> its not like mega sharp but its cheap and better than nothing
[1:45] <steve_rox> i increased consoles text size to resolve it
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[1:48] <phire> yeah, it's hard to get a readable console over composite
[1:48] <steve_rox> ive managed to get it readable
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[1:48] <steve_rox> for playing video it seems good
[1:48] <phire> with how many chars on the screen?
[1:49] <steve_rox> erm im not sure
[1:49] <phire> tput cols; tput lines
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[1:50] <steve_rox> it says
[1:50] <steve_rox> 80
[1:50] <steve_rox> 24
[1:51] <phire> that's standard res
[1:52] <steve_rox> its not too bad :-)
[1:52] <phire> exactly
[1:53] <phire> I'm sure someone in this channel had to drop down to 60 chars wide to get it readable
[1:53] <steve_rox> i have a switch for its power on off , same switch also routes video out to a seprate jack point
[1:53] <steve_rox> so you can rout it to a tv or something
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[1:56] <steve_rox> hdmi port is not really accessible
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[1:56] <phire> the hdmi port on the side is really inconvenient.
[1:57] <phire> Over half my box is dedicated to hdmi cable
[1:57] <steve_rox> lucky im using composite i guess
[1:58] <phire> hdmi cables have really long connectors, and don't like turning corners
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[1:58] <steve_rox> maybe direct wire soldering or some kinda connector rip apart may work
[2:00] <phire> the hdmi connector is really hard to deal with
[2:00] <steve_rox> glad i used composite
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[2:22] <mypifi> @#raspberrypi
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[2:27] <steve_rox> comeing up on 6 hours
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[2:28] <IT_Sean> on battery?
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[2:29] <steve_rox> yup
[2:29] <IT_Sean> Damn
[2:29] <IT_Sean> Not bad, dude.
[2:29] <steve_rox> reading is 7.0v
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[2:29] <RaptorJesus> you guys think I can power a rpi with http://www.amazon.com/HOBBYWING-SWITCH-MODE-UBEC-Max/dp/B00BS4Z9BC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401323292&sr=8-1&keywords=ubec+5v+3a
[2:29] <steve_rox> meaning 3.5v at least to each cell pack
[2:29] <RaptorJesus> or is 3A too high
[2:30] <steve_rox> 5v
[2:30] <steve_rox> any higher and trouble
[2:30] <steve_rox> a buck step down bord can help
[2:30] <RaptorJesus> it's a 5v/3a ubec
[2:30] <Triffid_Hunter> RaptorJesus: you need exactly 5v, at 1A or more. 3A should be able to run 3 RPIs
[2:30] <RaptorJesus> nice
[2:31] <Triffid_Hunter> ps: check the output voltage, sometimes they're tweaked a bit high because servos are perfectly happy with 6-7v
[2:31] <steve_rox> now approching 6.9v
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[2:31] <IT_Sean> What do you estimate total safe runtime to be?
[2:31] <steve_rox> im not sure
[2:31] <steve_rox> i dont want to go below 3v per cells
[2:32] <RaptorJesus> if I hooked up the input side of the UBEC with a barrel and the output to the power pins on a microsd cable that'll work right?
[2:32] <steve_rox> rpi is running idle tho with the lcd turned on , im sure it could be extended with it turned off
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[2:33] <RaptorJesus> female barrel connector
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[2:35] <steve_rox> 6 hours achived
[2:36] <steve_rox> just rechargeing all these is gonna take forever using the charger i have
[2:37] <IT_Sean> heh
[2:37] <steve_rox> i only have a single cell charger
[2:37] <steve_rox> powered by usb
[2:37] <steve_rox> half the chargers on ebay are probly leathel
[2:38] <Triffid_Hunter> RaptorJesus: you mean µUSB I hope?
[2:39] <[Saint]> Taking the time to type mu, my hero!
[2:39] <Triffid_Hunter> [Saint]: eh? just altgr+m
[2:40] <Triffid_Hunter> [Saint]: just wait until I start dropping greek chars :P
[2:40] <[Saint]> WHat is this compose key of which thou speakest?
[2:40] <[Saint]> Witch! WITCH!
[2:41] <Triffid_Hunter> [Saint]: altgr ie right alt. and I rebound capslock to switch to greek layout
[2:43] <[Saint]> I had to bind a dedicated compose key, as right alt most certainly doesn't behave in such a fashion on any of my machines.
[2:44] <[Saint]> So I kiss goodbye to scrLk - it was never good for anything anyway.
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[2:46] <[Saint]> In the course of my daily life, I maybe have to type perhaps on or two "fancy" characters, of which I recall the compose sequences thereof.
[2:46] <[Saint]> Perhaps I should teach my keyboards about this alternate voodoo instead.
[2:47] <[Saint]> As they all seem to think that left and right alt are exactly the same thing.
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[2:48] <[Saint]> Ahhhhh - its a US/US International thing.
[2:48] <[Saint]> TIL.
[2:48] <Triffid_Hunter> yep
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[3:10] <hfp> Dumb question: Can I use a DS18B20 sensor along with an I2C sensor on the same RasPi? Or do they have conflicting pin uses?
[3:12] <Triffid_Hunter> hfp: if the DS18B20 requires a custom protocol with tight timing, you can't run it with the rpi
[3:12] <phire> I believe the DS18B20 can be used on any gpio pin.
[3:12] <Triffid_Hunter> the rpi is not able to do hard realtime GPIO, you need an arduino for that
[3:12] <hfp> the DS18B20 uses Maxim/Dallas' 1wire protocl thing
[3:12] <hfp> protocol*
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[3:13] <Triffid_Hunter> hfp: right, does the rpi have a hardware block for that? or are you planning to bitbang it?
[3:13] <hfp> Triffid_Hunter: I'm not sure what I'm doing yet actually... I'm trying to figure it out as I go... And as I learn from this channel
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[3:14] <phire> https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-11-ds18b20-temperature-sensing/hardware
[3:15] <hfp> phire: So this means it's bit banged and not a good idea, right?
[3:16] <phire> well, you have to bitbang it on an avr too
[3:16] <hfp> I guess I don't really understand what bit banging entails and why it's not a good idea on the Pi
[3:17] <phire> the pi can't do cycle accurate timing.
[3:17] <Triffid_Hunter> phire: sure, but the avr can do hard realtime
[3:17] <phire> but you don't need cycle accurate timing for the 1 wire bus
[3:18] <Triffid_Hunter> hfp: bit-banging is toggling the GPIO from software. trouble is, there's no way to guarantee that your program won't get interrupted or delayed while bitbanging, and so if you use a protocol that has timing requirements, you will violate them at some point and get a corrupted transfer
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[3:19] <hfp> Triffid_Hunter: I see. phire seems to say that Dallas 1 wire isn't time sensitive though so that would be OK for the Pi?
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[3:22] <Triffid_Hunter> hfp: haven't tried it myself, but if there's only one wire then it *must* have timing requirements.. perhaps it runs so slow that the timing is geological compared to typical scheduler activity?
[3:22] <phire> that's a linux userspace issue, not a rpi issue
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[3:23] <hfp> Triffid_Hunter: Beats me... I understand only 50% of these words haha
[3:23] <phire> besides, if you follow that adafruit tutorial, you will see that it uses a linux kernel module to implement the 1 wire protocal
[3:25] <Triffid_Hunter> hfp: ^^ if the timing is handled by a kernel module, it should work perfectly
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[3:26] <hfp> Oh I see. But can I use this kernel module on any RasPi linux distribution or do I need the same one as Adafruit uses?
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[3:28] <Triffid_Hunter> hfp: the module will (hopefully) be open source, so worst case you have to compile it against whichever kernel you have
[3:28] <Triffid_Hunter> hfp: it would be sensible to have the module provided by the distro in a kernel modules package of some sort
[3:30] <hfp> Triffid_Hunter: How could I verify that?
[3:31] <Triffid_Hunter> hfp: find name of relevant module, see if you already have it, or ask your package manager which package provides that file
[3:32] <rikkib> hfp, I use a bmp85 and am2302 (dth22) to get pressure and humidity Thu May 29 10:31:18 2014 Temperature 15.1 C Pressure 1018 hPa AM2302 Temp: 14.0, RH: 67.7% Dew Point: 7.6
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[3:33] <hfp> rikkib: Well I read in a lot of places that the DHT22/AM2302 can be tricky to use with the Pi and can lockup
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[3:33] <rikkib> Never had mine lock up
[3:34] <rikkib> the test program has been running for months while do other things (Wind vane atm)
[3:34] <rikkib> Want me to put my test program where you can get at it?
[3:34] <steve_rox> rpi runtime comeing up on 7 hours
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[3:35] <CarlFK> where should a Canadian order a Pi from?
[3:35] <ShorTie> yes please rikkib
[3:35] <rikkib> OK stand by
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[3:36] <hfp> rikkib: Sure but I can't try it yet because I don't have the sensors :D
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[3:36] <hfp> CarlFK: element14 has it with an 8Gb card for 44$ + 8$ shipping + taxes
[3:37] <hfp> CarlFK: And they do it in such a way that all taxes and duties are prepaid so no extra fees when it arrives
[3:37] <CarlFK> yay!
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[3:38] <CarlFK> tried to get a cheep cell phone from Walmart - seemed like crossing the boarder was going to cost $60
[3:38] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/rpi/gy-65-rht03-c.txt
[3:39] <ShorTie> Thankz .. :)~
[3:39] <rikkib> Needs to be compiled in the wiringPi/example dir after adding it to the example make file in the same dir
[3:40] <rikkib> Just use another example in the make file as an template
[3:40] <rikkib> after chaning the file name back to .c
[3:41] <hfp> Well it seems Raspbian ships with the modules for 1-wire communication
[3:41] <rikkib> I added the txt extention to make easy to download
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[3:42] <rikkib> I have written code for the MC9S08 micro for 1 wire (ds18B20)
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[3:43] <rikkib> It is a bit tricky
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[3:43] <rikkib> min mcu freq is 8Mhz to be able to do 10uS pulse.
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[4:07] <yalex> Hello, have a raspberry pi with an external USB DAC and continually get audio starting and stopping with MP3s
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[4:08] <rikkib> ShorTie, http://www.zlham.geek.nz/rpi/wiringPi-pb/ I have updated the stuff I have been working on
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[4:08] <yalex> what should I look for to stop this occuring? the internal audio seems to work
[4:09] <Triffid_Hunter> yalex: playing over network?
[4:10] <Triffid_Hunter> yalex: the RPi's SOC only has one usb port, so the other chip on the board is actually a usb ethernet + 2-port hub chip. This means that if you're streaming things over network and also streaming stuff to a usb device, they'll both get starved
[4:11] <Triffid_Hunter> iow, see what happens when you play your MP3s from the SD card
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[4:13] <[Saint]> http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/laptops/laptops/other/auction-735026282.htm :)
[4:13] <[Saint]> (check the specifications)
[4:14] <yalex> Yes Triffid_Hunter, mpd over an ethernet connection
[4:14] <yalex> So Triffid_Hunter, if I just use a USB Hub would that work?
[4:14] <hfp> What kind of enclosure would you recommend for a Pi that will live in a wine cellar (so potentially dust, spiders and maybe higher than usual humidity)?
[4:15] <Triffid_Hunter> yalex: no, the problem is that you're already running both ethernet and audio through a hub. a second hub will not improve matters
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[4:17] <yalex> So what options are there Triffid_Hunter?
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[4:18] <Triffid_Hunter> yalex: come to the conclusion that the rpi is not suitable for your purpose
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[4:19] <nicdev> i asked this yesterday but did not get any response so will try my luck today. i would like to compile 3.12.20 kernel with wolfson card compatibility. is this possible or i am only restriced to 3.10 kernel?
[4:20] <Twist-> hfp: A ziplock bag with a bag of desiccant in?
[4:22] <hfp> Twist-: That would work but it will be a gift for my dad, I'd prefer something less ghetto
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[4:26] <dcj123> hello everyone
[4:26] <dcj123> I am trying to get xwayland to work on the pi
[4:26] <dcj123> I have recompiled the xserver to support xwayland
[4:27] <dcj123> but I still can't launch X programs in wayland
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[4:28] <dcj123> I have included the xwayland.so module in my weston.ini
[4:29] <Twist-> hfp: dunno.. I'm spoiled silly by our gigabot
[4:30] <Twist-> having a hackspace means never buying a commercial Pi case again.
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[4:33] <dcj123> Do you have to recompile weston too?
[4:34] <dcj123> I am using the weston from pacman on Arch Linux
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[4:37] <steve_rox> uptime now 8.02 ,yay
[4:37] <steve_rox> 8 laptop tith ions
[4:38] <steve_rox> however now i should terminate experment cos i need sleep
[4:38] <Twist-> hfp: clearly the thing to do is put it in a wine bottle
[4:39] <hfp> Twist-: Haha I thought about this but it wouldn't fit
[4:39] <Twist-> it wouldn't?
[4:39] * Twist- walks to the kitchen
[4:40] <Twist-> huh. no actual wine in there. only bourbon.
[4:40] <Twist-> silly hackers
[4:41] <[Saint]> Wait.
[4:42] <[Saint]> *I* just walked to the kitchen.
[4:42] <[Saint]> And there's bourbon in my kitchen too.
[4:42] <[Saint]> ...are you me?
[4:42] <[Saint]> The evidence is overwhelming.
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[4:43] <hfp> haha
[4:43] <hfp> I have some wine in the kitchen
[4:43] <hfp> The diameter of a bottle (outside) is about 24cm
[4:43] <steve_rox> i turned off rpi now
[4:43] <steve_rox> it ran for 8 hours
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[4:45] <[Saint]> nicdev: this should be entirely possible, yes.
[4:45] <[Saint]> (just saw you hanging, waiting for an answer)
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[4:46] <hfp> Twist-: Even if it could fit, I'd have to cut open the bottle to slide it in
[4:48] <[Saint]> FWIW - the raspi almost certainly won't care about being caked in years worth of grime and dust.
[4:48] <[Saint]> Nor the humidity.
[4:49] <[Saint]> If it really came down to it, you could just wrap the thing up in static-proof plastic and duct tape.
[4:50] <[Saint]> Any heat concerns would surely be negated by the steady ambient temperature of the location itself.
[4:51] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf
[4:51] <[Saint]> So even though there may be a high level of humidity, the stable temperature /should/ prevent possibly problematic condensation.
[4:51] <hfp> Ok well I thought it would maybe corrode the mini USB connector. I had this happen on all my and my gf's Galaxy S2 (5 of them total). The Mini USB port would become corroded because of ambiant humidity + pocket humidity, short the port and fry the phone.
[4:51] <[Saint]> Says I, entirely unscientifically.
[4:52] <[Saint]> The Galaxy S1/2 line was absolutely notorious for having a crappy USb port.
[4:53] <[Saint]> It filled with pocket crap and created shorts/pin jams, arcs.
[4:54] <[Saint]> The knew about it with the S1, but still used pretty much exactly the same daughterboard, with pretty much exactly the same makeup, and problems, in the S2.
[4:54] <hfp> Well I won't buy a Samsung phone anytime soon anyway as a result.
[4:54] <[Saint]> I liked my S4.
[4:54] <[Saint]> I would've got an S5, but its really a downgrade in many ways, and I already had the Nexus 5.
[4:55] <hfp> I'll stick to Google phones because they are better cheaper and offer a lot more choice with custom ROMs
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[4:55] <hfp> THere is still no proper driver for the light sensor in the S2 for open source ROMs, thanks Samsung
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[4:55] <hfp> Anyway
[4:55] <hfp> I don't know how big of a problem condensation could be. A cellar should be between 10-14C and 80% humidity
[4:56] <[Saint]> The only reason they offer those choices is because they're factory unlocked, which is an aspect that is trivially negated in most flagship devices.
[4:56] <[Saint]> Not if you like having a warranty, though.
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[4:58] <[Saint]> And Mr. Rosenberg has some tricks up his sleeve ready to show the world at the next Black Hat USA
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[4:59] <[Saint]> He has made TrustZone and the trusted boot chain his unwilling servant.
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[5:00] <[Saint]> (tl;dr: pretty much all modern ARM devices)
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[5:35] <atomi> ?
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[5:37] <shiftplusone> atomi, that's a bit of a vague question.
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[5:38] <atomi> shiftplusone: you got any idea how to use the rpi to control irrigation valves?
[5:39] <atomi> 24vac solenoid valves
[5:39] <shiftplusone> do you have a datasheet for the valves?
[5:39] <shiftplusone> ah
[5:39] <shiftplusone> slap a mosfet and a relay on there and you're set, I would think.
[5:39] <atomi> yeah
[5:42] <atomi> is there a relay for 24vac?
[5:43] <atomi> nevermind found someone asking the same thing http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=36101
[5:43] <shiftplusone> I would imagine it doesn't matter what's on the other side of the relay and long as you provide the 24vac
[5:43] <atomi> shiftplusone: yeah
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[5:44] <shiftplusone> or was the question more about getting the 24vac?
[5:45] <atomi> shiftplusone: yeah I thought I would need to convert to 24vac but that thread answers my question
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[5:45] <shiftplusone> ah, great.
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[5:59] <RaptorJesus> Triffid_Hunter: derrr yes
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[7:32] <mrmoney2012> this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGFdQVwc8Q0
[7:32] <mrmoney2012> surely this is rubbush abot usb 3.0 - pi is usb 2 ?
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[7:33] <shiftplusone> what does it say so that we don't have to watch a 7 minute video?
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[7:34] <Brod> claims a usb3 stick is quicker than usb2 on a raspbberry
[7:35] <shiftplusone> ah
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[7:35] <Brod> mrmoney2012 is right yeah? couldn't be fast if raspberry is usb2
[7:35] <Brod> faster*
[7:35] <shiftplusone> yeah
[7:35] <shiftplusone> it could be faster than the sd card though
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[7:36] <Brod> true
[7:37] <Brod> maybe he's using a usb1.0 thinking its a usb2.0.. would make more sense
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[7:39] <mrmoney2012> but usb2 stick same as usb3 stick on pi ?
[7:39] <mrmoney2012> as port will be 2 ?
[7:39] <Brod> yes
[7:39] <mrmoney2012> and usb controller etc
[7:40] <shiftplusone> yes, but keep in mind that many usb 3.0 hub controllers don't work with the pi, so it's best to stick to 2.0. for hubs at least.
[7:40] <mrmoney2012> my openelec is on the sd card though - is it likely moving the install to a usb stick would make it faster like he says?
[7:40] <shiftplusone> mrmoney2012, judging by the benchmarks I've done, USB is a little bit faster than SD
[7:41] <mrmoney2012> k, ta
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[7:41] <shiftplusone> but your mileage may vary, I guess.
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[7:59] <Lacriatch> A USB3 stick could very well be faster than a USB2 stick
[7:59] <shiftplusone> 'could'
[7:59] <Lacriatch> Just like a USB3 stick can be faster than another USB3 stick
[7:59] <Brod> :/
[8:00] <Lacriatch> It's not just about the interface, that's just one bottleneck.
[8:00] <Lacriatch> If you put shitty flash in a USB3 stick and high quality flash in a USB2 stick, there's a good chance the 2 can outperform the 3.
[8:01] <Brod> I think it was only about the usb1,2,3 specs - assuming they other parts were at max speeds
[8:01] <shiftplusone> heading into pedantry territory there a little, aren't you?
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[8:02] <Lacriatch> Me? Not at all
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[8:02] <Lacriatch> Seriously, I got a USB3 stick (Kingston) and it's terrible compared to my USB2 external hard drive
[8:03] <Lacriatch> The speeds the USB3 stick are doing are well within the limits of USB2
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[8:03] <Brod> I thought Kingston would be better then that
[8:03] <shiftplusone> Brod, heh!
[8:03] <Lacriatch> I've never had a good experience with Kingston
[8:03] <shiftplusone> how little you know Kingston XD
[8:03] <Lacriatch> ^
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[8:04] <shiftplusone> I've never actually had any problem with them, but they do have a.... reputation.
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[8:04] <Lacriatch> Bought 2 Kingston SSDs and both were dead within 6 months. Bought Kingston SD cards, lasted a year.
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[8:05] <Brod> guess I don't really checkup on the storage world enough
[8:05] <Brod> ooh yikes
[8:05] <Lacriatch> It's usually fine, just avoid Kingston
[8:05] <Brod> noted
[8:05] <Lacriatch> Even when I went to the PC shop, the rep told me to keep away from it. Apparently they get a shitton of returns and faults in Kingston products.
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[11:19] <voxadam> How hard is it for a Pi to transcode a USB webcam's output to something that can be used by HTML5 <video>?
[11:20] <voxadam> What is a good codec to transcode to?
[11:20] <Triffid_Hunter> voxadam: in realtime? no way.. if you can wait, use ffmpeg. google knows plenty of <any> to html5 ffmpeg tutorials
[11:20] <shiftplusone> depends on the browser
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[11:21] <shiftplusone> the fun of html5 is that you either need to support multiple formats or only a single browser.
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[11:21] <shiftplusone> well, a limited set of browsers
[11:21] <Brod> ^
[11:21] <Triffid_Hunter> voxadam: there's 3-4 different video formats you need to cover for html5 to work in everything.. ogg/theora, mp4 and don't remember the other one
[11:21] <voxadam> Perfect real-time isn't an issue. I'm using the video to monitor a remote location. It's not video conferencing.
[11:21] <shiftplusone> webm
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[11:21] <Brod> ^
[11:22] <Triffid_Hunter> shiftplusone: webm is ogg/theora, no?
[11:22] <Brod> what I was about to say, twice..
[11:22] * shiftplusone shrugs
[11:22] <mgottschlag> webm is google's new format
[11:22] <voxadam> How hard would a Pi have to work to transcode to MP4 at 15 FPS?
[11:22] <shiftplusone> mp4 is natively supported by the GPU isn't it?
[11:22] <Brod> my guess would be hard.
[11:22] <voxadam> webm and theora are entirelly different.
[11:23] <Brod> what dimensions?
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[11:23] <voxadam> Let's start small, 640*480.
[11:23] <shiftplusone> if you use a picam instead of a webcam, you can get mp4 straight out
[11:23] <voxadam> I wish I had a webcam to experiment iwht .
[11:23] <voxadam> shiftplusone: Really? I was going to ask about the picam.
[11:24] <voxadam> The price isn't bad.
[11:24] <Brod> if it was dedicated to the task, I'd say thats possible
[11:24] <voxadam> What can the picam output?
[11:24] <shiftplusone> h264, as far as I know.
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[11:28] <voxadam> If the picam can stream h264 video and I can redirect that stream to a websocket things would be incredibly simple for me.
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[11:29] <Lacriatch> You could probably do it with Node
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[11:30] <voxadam> Lacriatch: I was planning on doing it with Node. I'm more worried about the CPU time requried to transcode from a USB webcam to H264 on a Pi.
[11:30] <Lacriatch> I wouldn't try it
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[11:31] <voxadam> That's what I'm saying.
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[11:31] <Lacriatch> Streaming from raspivid into Node without processing should be fine though
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[11:31] <voxadam> Lacriatch: Using what codec?
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[11:33] <voxadam> Lacriatch: I want to stream from a Pi to a modern web browser (e.g. HTML5 <video>).
[11:34] <Lacriatch> voxadam: the cam streams h.264 I'm pretty sure.
[11:34] <Lacriatch> Either that or YUB
[11:34] <Lacriatch> * YUV
[11:35] <voxadam> Lacriatch: Yeah.... I was hoping that I could use a cheap Chinese webcam. Unfortunatly, it looks like I should just stick with something like a Logitech webcam that does H264 in hardware,
[11:36] <shiftplusone> you can use the GPIO for h264 encoding
[11:36] <shiftplusone> the issue will be decoding, but given the low resolution, it might not be painful
[11:36] <voxadam> Huh?
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[11:37] <shiftplusone> looks up raspberry pi gpu transcoding, or something along those lines
[11:37] <shiftplusone> 'omxtx' comes to mind
[11:37] <voxadam> I'll keep thinking about it but I'm pretty sure that the most reasonable solution is to use a camera with hardware H264 encoding.
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[12:58] <Lacriatch> Mods are gone, post Arduinos
[12:58] <Lacriatch> Dammit too late.
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[13:00] <shiftplusone> O_o we like arduinos
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[13:00] <Lacriatch> It was meant to be rebellious
[13:00] <Lacriatch> Apparently I suck at rebellion
[13:00] <shiftplusone> then you should've said banana pi
[13:00] <Lacriatch> That thing confuses me
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[13:02] <Maxa> I like this samba. I now get about 6 MB/s from a USB disk, on LAN
[13:03] <Lacriatch> I thought samba was horribly resource inefficient
[13:03] <Lacriatch> I look at it sometimes and see it eating memory and CPU .-.
[13:03] <shiftplusone> NFS ftw
[13:04] <Lacriatch> Used GlusterFS before?
[13:04] <Maxa> I tried NFS but there was some sort of problems with it
[13:04] <shiftplusone> Ah, the famous some sort of problem. I keep running into that one.
[13:05] <shiftplusone> Haven't heard of GlusterFS
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[13:07] <Lacriatch> I don't know much about it other than that we use it at work when our sysadmin said NFS wasn't good enough
[13:07] <Maxa> what about rsync? could there be some overhead in using it with a remotely mounted drive as opposed to having a rsync server on Pi
[13:07] <shiftplusone> isn't rsync done over ssh?
[13:07] <shiftplusone> (lots of overhead)
[13:07] <Maxa> Im using --rsh=rsh
[13:07] <Lacriatch> Not always
[13:08] <Lacriatch> rsync has a server as well
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[13:08] <shiftplusone> and that doesn't tencrypt data?
[13:08] <shiftplusone> *encrypt
[13:09] <Lacriatch> shiftplusone: Nope. No encryption
[13:10] <shiftplusone> ah
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[14:39] <beaky> hello
[14:40] <beaky> so i dropped my pi and the little plastic sides in the SD card connector chipped off.
[14:40] <beaky> how do i repair my sd card slot
[14:40] <shiftplusone> solder on a new, metal one
[14:40] <beaky> wow where can i get a newer better sd card conector that fits the same pcb footprint
[14:41] <shiftplusone> digikey, if you're in america
[14:41] <shiftplusone> google raspberry pi sd replacement or something along those lines, you'll find all sorts of part numbers
[14:42] <ShorTie> i would think the footprint is preaty standard
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[14:42] <shiftplusone> somewhat, but there are many different footprints for sd cards
[14:42] <beaky> ok maybe i can get one from ebay or from something i have lying around
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[14:42] <shiftplusone> *sd card holders
[14:43] <beaky> btw why didnt they go for microsd for that holder
[14:43] <shiftplusone> more kid friendly
[14:43] <beaky> oh ^^
[14:43] <shiftplusone> at least that's one of the reasons... I don't know if it's 'the' reason.
[14:43] <beaky> im the clumsiest kid for dropping my pi and breaking the connector then :D
[14:43] <ShorTie> got a hot glue gun ??
[14:43] <beaky> nope
[14:44] <beaky> my DIY skill level is 0
[14:44] <ShorTie> so much for that idea, lol.
[14:44] <shiftplusone> get some exp and level up
[14:44] <beaky> also i lost the plastic pieces so i cant superglue the connector back :(
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[14:45] <ShorTie> i was gonna say clamp the card in place, hot glue it, then use a usb stick for root
[14:45] <shiftplusone> or hot glue in a microsd adapter and use microsd cards like you always wanted
[14:45] <ShorTie> can't get away from the sdcard, but can minimize the use of it
[14:46] <beaky> i tried taping the uSD adapter to the connector but it doesnt stick well :(
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[14:47] <ShorTie> you might have better luck with a cloths pin then tape
[14:47] <beaky> ah good idea ill try that
[14:47] <ShorTie> no clamping power with tape
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[14:50] <atouk> couple straegically placed rubber bands may do it
[14:50] <ShorTie> very true
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[14:52] <ShorTie> might need to add a spacer on top of the sdcard, but ya gubber gams would most likely work to
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[14:55] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, what's the 'clock' output mode? Does that hook up the 1MHz timer to the gpio pin or something?
[14:57] <beaky> oops
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[14:57] <beaky> my ruber banding has snapped off C6 :(
[14:57] <shiftplusone> step away from the pi
[14:58] <shiftplusone> There's only so much abuse it can take =(
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[15:02] <IT_Sean> (>_<)
[15:02] <IT_Sean> really? a rubber band?
[15:03] <beaky> well i dont have spare sd connectors at hand :(
[15:03] <IT_Sean> Wha'v you done to the thing!?
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[15:03] <shiftplusone> Threw it on the ground!
[15:03] <beaky> it fell
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[15:04] <beaky> clumsy me dropped it while i walked
[15:04] <shiftplusone> well yeah, that's what happens when you throw things, the fall =P
[15:04] <shiftplusone> Unless you're in orbit, I suppose.
[15:05] <shiftplusone> Well no, I guess if it's in orbit, it's by definition falling as well, never mind.
[15:06] <shiftplusone> Did the pads holding C6 get damaged?
[15:06] <shiftplusone> Maybe you'll be able to just solder it back on there.
[15:07] <IT_Sean> it's a bare board... you are meant to be careful with it. I might recommend that you put your next raspi in a case, beaky. I personally recommend a PiBow. I've got two myself, and they are fantastic cases.
[15:07] <shiftplusone> pibow timber or the not as cool one?
[15:09] <IT_Sean> I have two Ninjas
[15:09] <IT_Sean> BI cracked one, recently, however, and may replace it with a timber.
[15:09] <IT_Sean> *I
[15:10] <shiftplusone> What, you didn't go with the rainbow one!?
[15:11] <IT_Sean> No. Why would I?
[15:11] <IT_Sean> (O_o)
[15:11] <shiftplusone> Well I always though.... never mind.
[15:11] <IT_Sean> You thought what?
[15:12] * IT_Sean gives shiftplusone a spoon to use to dig himself out of this hole.
[15:12] <IT_Sean> Go on... I want to hear what you had to say... You thought what?
[15:12] <shiftplusone> >.>
[15:12] * shiftplusone eats the spoon and runs off.
[15:12] <IT_Sean> You thought what, shift... ?
[15:13] <shiftplusone> That you like rainbows, Sean.
[15:13] <IT_Sean> Are you implying that you thought I was gay?
[15:13] <Lacriatch> Since when are rainbows gay?
[15:13] * Lacriatch loves rainbows
[15:13] <shiftplusone> +1 for raindows
[15:13] <IT_Sean> Don't let the silk shirts and good design sense fool you... I'm into girls.
[15:14] <IT_Sean> Also.. don't be ignorant.
[15:14] <shiftplusone> What? I didn't say anything, you're the one dragging sexuality into this! D=
[15:15] <IT_Sean> Well then... if that's not what you were implying, what was it?
[15:15] <IT_Sean> Go on... out with it...
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[15:16] <shiftplusone> Out with what? We were talking about rainbows and then you started going on about how you don't like rainbows, but girls.
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[15:19] <[Saint]> Hey...look at that thing, over there, the distracting one...see it? Yeah. Good.
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[15:24] <Encrypt> o/
[15:24] <shiftplusone> ahoy
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[15:26] <[Saint]> Heh. Ms. [Saint] remarks:
[15:27] <[Saint]> "Silk shirts? Good design sense? ...is it 1992?"
[15:27] <shiftplusone> lol!
[15:27] <IT_Sean> (O_o)
[15:28] <[Saint]> I'm winded by that remark as well...she better not look too hard in my closet.
[15:29] <IT_Sean> HA!
[15:29] <shiftplusone> she might find an IT_Sean there (I'm done, I swear)
[15:30] * IT_Sean kicks shiftplusone in the head
[15:30] <IT_Sean> (Now i'm done)
[15:30] <shiftplusone> excellent
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[15:32] <[Saint]> Gah!
[15:33] <[Saint]> I'm blindededed..ed.
[15:33] <[Saint]> f.lux suddenly died on me.
[15:34] <[Saint]> all of a sudden jumped from 4200 Kelvin to standard.
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[15:37] <[Saint]> https://imgur.com/a/miAm5
[15:37] <[Saint]> gaming porn.
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[15:38] <IT_Sean> wooooaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
[15:38] <IT_Sean> duuuuuuuuuuuude
[15:38] <[Saint]> MmmmmmHmmm.
[15:38] <shiftplusone> Hmm.... I wonder what a sega genesis costs nowadays
[15:39] <IT_Sean> I had one of those, back in the day. ...With the expanded graphics doohicky
[15:39] <shiftplusone> The only console I actually liked =)
[15:39] <shiftplusone> nintendo never did it for me =/
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[15:40] <IT_Sean> My console gaming history: Nintendo. Super Nintendo. Sega Genesis. Play Station. PS2. xbox. xbox 360.
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[15:42] <shiftplusone> Dendy (Russian NES clone), a few other ones I don't know the name of, Genesis, PS2
[15:42] <shiftplusone> PC all the way though =)
[15:42] <shiftplusone> Might be amusing to some https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendy_%28console%29
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[15:48] <beaky> whats the voltage requirement of C6 on the pi?
[15:48] <beaky> i need to resolder it back :( problem is i also broke the pad off
[15:48] <IT_Sean> ouch
[15:49] <shiftplusone> it's alright, there are other places to connect to nearby
[15:49] <IT_Sean> He can just bypass C6, so long as a decent power supply is being used. right Shift?
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[15:49] <shiftplusone> yeah, but I wouldn't. The pi has trouble coping with load spikes already anyway.
[15:50] <beaky> fortunately i have spare 16v 220uF smd electrolytics
[15:50] <shiftplusone> Well, that's the exact spec as the original
[15:51] <shiftplusone> but if the pads are messed up, maybe throughhole might be easier to work with =/
[15:51] <shiftplusone> then you could just solder it across D17 or something
[15:52] <[Saint]> My first batch of raspi controlled yogurt was is awesome.
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[15:52] <[Saint]> For clarity, I made a yogurt incubator out of a raspi, a heating plate, and a tiny 5L Eskie.
[15:52] <shiftplusone> how does one control yogurt? O_o
[15:52] <shiftplusone> oh o_O
[15:53] <[Saint]> I purchased a single batch of culture, which I should in theory be able to keep alive indefinitely.
[15:53] <shiftplusone> beaky, hell, you could use this as an excuse to add a low esr cap with a higher capacitance there for better stability
[15:53] <[Saint]> Yogurt begets more yogurt, etc.
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[15:54] <shiftplusone> sounds like a bible passage
[15:55] <beaky> wow today was a bad day
[15:55] <beaky> first i broke the sd conector, now i broke c6
[15:55] <IT_Sean> you really need to pur that thing in a case
[15:55] <IT_Sean> *put
[15:56] <beaky> alright ill just bolt on a 470uF cap in c6
[15:56] <beaky> (which probably has higher esr though)
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[15:59] <beaky> oh well if my pi get bricked, at least i have a beaglebone black :D
[16:00] <shiftplusone> heathen!
[16:01] <SpeedEvil> Live tits! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01z2vf4/live Has anyone got a Pi pointing at tits?
[16:01] * beaky clicks
[16:01] <beaky> :(
[16:02] <chris_99> SpeedEvil, have you heard in the UK they're looking at some kind of change in law that means it may be possible to shoot robins, which is moronic in my books
[16:02] * SpeedEvil sighs.
[16:02] <SpeedEvil> The laws in the UK regarding hunting are insane.
[16:02] <SpeedEvil> You can't use laser-guided arrows or drones.
[16:03] <chris_99> haha
[16:03] <chris_99> i want to save the poor little robins
[16:03] <SpeedEvil> I'd quite like to take down a couple of dozen geese.
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[16:05] <ShadowJK> Are air rifles allowed?
[16:05] <ShadowJK> in general
[16:05] <SpeedEvil> chris_99: 'where they are a threat to safety' - that's very reasonable IMO.
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[16:07] <chris_99> where robins are a threat to safety?!
[16:07] <chris_99> how could that ever be the case
[16:07] <chris_99> yes you can have an air rifle ShadowJK
[16:07] <ShadowJK> pop them with that and hide the evidence
[16:07] <ShadowJK> (or eat it)
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[16:17] <SpeedEvil> chris_99: If they're near a kitchen and shitting on a ventilator, for example.
[16:17] <IT_Sean> wait... laser guided arrows?
[16:18] <IT_Sean> that's a thing!?
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> IT_Sean: I was wanting to make them
[16:18] <IT_Sean> I want some of those!
[16:18] <IT_Sean> What they need to make are laser guided handgun ammunition. I'm tired of getting pwnd at company shoots
[16:19] <Encrypt> Hey everybody
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[16:19] <Encrypt> Would anybody be interested in a device that would:
[16:19] <shiftplusone> yes!
[16:19] <Encrypt> - Automatically switch off the Raspberry Pi in case of power outage
[16:19] <IT_Sean> yes.
[16:20] <shiftplusone> O_o
[16:20] <SpeedEvil> Encrypt: It's called a mains power supply.
[16:20] <Encrypt> - Automatically power on the Raspberry Pi when the power supply comes back
[16:20] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[16:20] <chris_99> SpeedEvil, even then, i think they should be protected
[16:20] <IT_Sean> Um... the raspi sort of already does that.
[16:20] <Encrypt> - That has a secure On / Off button to power on / power off the RPi
[16:20] <SpeedEvil> chris_99: Why?
[16:21] <IT_Sean> Encrypt: Now i'm interested
[16:21] <chris_99> because you don't have to kill them to get them to move on
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> chris_99: Robins and starlings are really, really, really common.
[16:21] <Encrypt> And which consumes nothing when everything is all right
[16:21] <IT_Sean> Encrypt: Now i'm quite interested
[16:21] <Encrypt> (That is to say 0.2 mA)
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> chris_99: 'destroying nests' - was the primary thing.
[16:21] <Encrypt> Hum, also
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> Not killing them
[16:21] <Encrypt> It would automatically "unplug" the RPi after it has been shut down
[16:21] <Encrypt> (So, no red light would remain)
[16:22] <IT_Sean> people have already done that.
[16:22] <IT_Sean> but i'm still interested.
[16:22] <Encrypt> But not all of that \o/
[16:22] <Encrypt> And I've been working on this for 2 years now
[16:22] <IT_Sean> How much would you be selling these for?
[16:22] <Encrypt> Each component has been a real choice
[16:22] <Encrypt> Well...
[16:22] <Encrypt> Maybe $30
[16:23] <Encrypt> I don't really know for now
[16:23] <Encrypt> It's based on two supercapacitors
[16:23] <IT_Sean> ouch
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[16:23] <IT_Sean> that's nearly the cost of the Pi.
[16:23] <Encrypt> So that makes it a bit costly
[16:23] <Encrypt> *However*
[16:23] <IT_Sean> I'm loosing interest.
[16:23] <Encrypt> No need to buy batteries contrary to other solutions
[16:24] <Encrypt> (This should be taken into account)
[16:24] <Encrypt> And no need to charge these batteries after a power outage
[16:24] <Encrypt> Everything is done automatically
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[16:24] <IT_Sean> I gotta be honest... at that price point, i'm willing to risk a bit of SD card corruption. You've nearly doubled the cost of the Pi.
[16:24] <Encrypt> IT_Sean, I think I'll kickstarter the idea
[16:25] <SpeedEvil> ...
[16:25] <IT_Sean> I think it's a fantastic idea... but... at $30... a bit steep.
[16:25] <Encrypt> Because the price will also depend on the amount of orders
[16:25] <SpeedEvil> 5 AA cells, a 555, a FET, job done for thousands of switch-offs.
[16:25] <IT_Sean> If you could get that down to about $15, i think you have a winner.
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[16:26] <Encrypt> My biggest problem is the price of this:
[16:26] <Encrypt> http://fr.rs-online.com/web/p/condensateurs-electriques-a-double-couche/7690206P/
[16:26] <Encrypt> €6.74 for a thousand of these
[16:26] <SpeedEvil> DOING iT WRONG.
[16:26] <causality> you can buy a UPS for $15 sometimes
[16:26] <Encrypt> Really? (O.o)
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[16:27] <IT_Sean> Well... not a good one, but... yeah.
[16:27] <IT_Sean> I'd not be willing to pay more than $18 for the device you've described, Encrypt. And even that is a bit high.... $15 is much more agreeable.
[16:27] <IT_Sean> But, that's just my own opinion.
[16:28] <IT_Sean> Keep in mind, the device you are 'protecting' costs $25 - $35.
[16:28] <IT_Sean> And re-imaging an SD card takes only a few minutes
[16:28] <Encrypt> Yes, right
[16:29] <SpeedEvil> http://www.dx.com/p/navo-5v-voltage-boost-mobile-power-board-w-subscriber-identify-module-green-305633
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[16:29] <SpeedEvil> the 'subscriber identify module' is wrong'
[16:29] <Encrypt> How wan this be that cheap?
[16:30] <Encrypt> I mean, when I see the components on the electronics distributors
[16:30] <causality> Encrypt: economies of scale and cheap labour
[16:30] <SpeedEvil> That, plus a small USB battery, plus a 555 to kill power on switchoff
[16:30] <Encrypt> They are quite expensive compared to the price of this product
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[16:32] <causality> admittedly, the last $15 UPS i bought did explode when i powered it up
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[16:33] <Shardvexz> o.O
[16:33] <IT_Sean> that's what happens when you spend $15 on a UPS
[16:33] <IT_Sean> speaking of which...
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[16:33] <causality> i didn't spend it :)
[16:33] <causality> it came free with some larger order..
[16:33] <causality> all my UPS's at home are APC
[16:34] <Encrypt> Well, there is also this to consider
[16:34] <ShadowJK> I switched to eaton after APC closed their communication protocol thingy :/
[16:34] <Encrypt> Would you prefer a power-hungry device made in chine for $15 or a eco-friendly device made in France for $30...
[16:35] <Encrypt> china*
[16:35] <beaky> ok
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[16:35] <beaky> now i broke the pins on my sd connector :(
[16:35] <IT_Sean> beaky: really!?
[16:35] <beaky> yes
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[16:35] <beaky> i bent them bad
[16:35] <IT_Sean> jeez dude... Just stop.
[16:35] <IT_Sean> Get a new raspi. and PUT IT IN A CASE you kluts!
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[16:35] <IT_Sean> *klutz
[16:36] <beaky> :( what replacement sd connector would you guys recomend
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[16:36] <causality> probably the same one that's on there
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[16:36] <IT_Sean> ^ that
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[16:37] <causality> Encrypt: have you calculated how many farads you need in your super capacitors to allow a rpi to gracefully shut down?
[16:37] <Encrypt> Yes
[16:37] <causality> how many?
[16:37] <beaky> i want to get a metal one but i am having trouble finding one with a matching footprint
[16:37] <Encrypt> I can power it almost 3 minutes with two 220F capacitors (@ 2.3V)
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[16:37] <Encrypt> Considering it consumes 700mA
[16:37] <beaky> also most on ebay are for microSD
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[16:38] <causality> Encrypt: do you have any idea how much 440 farads of cap costs?
[16:38] <Encrypt> I always considered the "worst" case
[16:38] <Encrypt> causality,
[16:38] <Encrypt> Yes
[16:38] <Encrypt> http://fr.rs-online.com/web/p/condensateurs-electriques-a-double-couche/7690206P/
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[16:38] <Encrypt> That's the best one I found
[16:38] <SpeedEvil> Encrypt: An AA cell can power a Pi for most of an hour. 120 shutdowns
[16:39] <ShadowJK> Encrypt, what's the part that says 0.2mA?
[16:39] <causality> SpeedEvil: do you need a boost supply for that?
[16:39] <SpeedEvil> Of course.
[16:39] <Encrypt> But on the internet I found that it wouldn't support 700mA
[16:39] <IT_Sean> you would, yes.
[16:39] <SpeedEvil> ShadowJK: self discharge
[16:39] <IT_Sean> 1xAA = 3v.
[16:39] <causality> Encrypt: do you know the relationship between voltage and discharge with a cap?
[16:39] <IT_Sean> err...
[16:39] <IT_Sean> 1.5v rater
[16:39] <IT_Sean> *rather
[16:39] <IT_Sean> herpaderp
[16:39] <Encrypt> IT_Sean, But you can't get 700mA
[16:39] <SpeedEvil> That is a 2.3V 220F cap. If you put two in series, you get 110F.
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[16:40] <Encrypt> causality, Yes, I know ;)
[16:40] <SpeedEvil> If you power that from a 5V PSU, you are overvoltaging the cap.
[16:40] <Encrypt> I'm 20 years old and I'm in an Engineering school right now :)
[16:40] <SpeedEvil> To be in spec, you need three, taking it to 70F.
[16:40] <Encrypt> But...
[16:40] <SpeedEvil> 70F will discharge one half volt in 50 seconds. Which is about the minimum you want to be 'safe'
[16:41] <causality> i think an AA eneloop cell and a super efficient power supply would be neater
[16:41] <Encrypt> Supercapacitor charger + boost converter + other components
[16:41] <causality> preferably controlled by a $1 micro :)
[16:41] <Encrypt> And it works
[16:41] <Encrypt> (In theory)
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[16:41] <causality> it's not cost efficient, Encrypt
[16:41] <Encrypt> Yes, I know
[16:42] <Encrypt> But two AA cells couldn't power apparently a RPi which consumes 700mA
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[16:42] <ShadowJK> Why not?
[16:42] <causality> i'd expect both alkaline and nimh to be fine at 0.7A
[16:42] <Encrypt> I found on the internet that the maximum current was something like 150mA
[16:42] <causality> or even a cheap lipo cell
[16:42] <ShadowJK> Alkaline would be fine for 15-30 minutes, I would guess.
[16:43] <Encrypt> The internet is lying to me then
[16:43] <causality> what's the input voltage range for a rpi?
[16:43] <Encrypt> :þ
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[16:44] <mistahT> hi i've setup kernel watchdog with bcm2708_wdog and watchdog service, but my pi wont restart when it locks up how do i find why not?
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[16:47] <beaky> ok i have this brilliant idea
[16:47] <beaky> i will solder tiny wires from the SD connector to my sd card
[16:47] <causality> that'd work
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[16:49] <IT_Sean> causality: 5v
[16:50] <mistahT> i checked that module is loaded and service is running and it actually reboots if i fork bom it, but when a real lockup occurs, maybe some driver locks up i dont know, it becomes unreachable remotely, but never comes back
[16:50] <causality> IT_Sean: linear regs onboard for the IC's?
[16:51] <IT_Sean> causality: the raspi has a 5v -> 3.3v regulator onboard for the 3.3v rail. There is no protection on the 5v input however. You need to supply a stable 5v.
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[16:52] <causality> i'm not surprised, considering the price point
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[18:12] <steve_rox> well the lith ion battery pack lasted 8 hours , could go longer
[18:12] <steve_rox> now i have to deal with the tedious rechargeing one cell at a time
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[18:25] <steve_rox> everyone asleepin
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[18:35] <gordonDrogon> yup.
[18:36] <steve_rox> fun
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[18:39] <wip> my rapsberry freeze when i do sudo apt-get install ...
[18:39] <shiftplusone> got a multimeter?
[18:39] <wip> or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:39] <wip> shiftplusone: got a multimeter and a scope yes
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[18:40] <shiftplusone> what's the tp1-tp2 voltage when it freezes?
[18:40] * wip is at work
[18:40] <steve_rox> heh mine self destructs if i try upgrade it
[18:40] <wip> is this a known bug / behaviour?
[18:40] <shiftplusone> You folks should invest in decent supplies and cables O_o
[18:40] <shiftplusone> wip, only when the power is bad.
[18:41] <wip> shiftplusone: ok, will use another power supply
[18:43] <steve_rox> read the details on the power supply
[18:43] <steve_rox> think it needs 1amp
[18:44] <shiftplusone> power supply labels lie anyway
[18:44] <steve_rox> thats true in some cases
[18:45] <wip> shiftplusone: looks like it works with another power supply!
[18:46] <shiftplusone> hurray
[18:46] <wip> is it safe to overclock the pi?
[18:46] <steve_rox> victory over cheap nasty power supplys
[18:46] <steve_rox> safe enough
[18:46] <steve_rox> just backup the disk
[18:47] <wip> 900mhz?
[18:47] <steve_rox> prepare for mass reboots
[18:47] <shiftplusone> wip, won't kill the pi. Your data might be another matter.
[18:47] <steve_rox> each rpi is differnt in its oc capability
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[18:47] <wip> ok will gradually test starting with no-oc
[18:47] <shiftplusone> I always run all my pis at 1GHz and I am yet to have a single stability or data corruption issue, but ymmv
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[18:49] <steve_rox> then you have to find some prog to test stability
[18:49] <steve_rox> quake1 used to do it for me
[18:50] <IT_Sean> define "safe"
[18:51] <shiftplusone> "protected from or not exposed to danger or risk; not likely to be harmed or lost."
[18:51] <steve_rox> or cook food on it
[18:51] <shiftplusone> "a strong fireproof cabinet with a complex lock, used for the storage of valuables."
[18:52] <IT_Sean> Overlocking your raspi presents no risk of injury or death to the operator, so, i would define it as 'safe'.
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[18:53] <gordonDrogon> ?
[18:54] <shiftplusone> sticking the core wiringpi functions into a bare metal kernel >.>
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> neat.
[18:54] <shiftplusone> just to learn arm asm, not for any practical purpose.
[18:55] <ShorTie> Cool
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> I have a little microkernel thingy I wrote for the ATmega - which includes my own "wiring" library. I have thought about porting it to the Pi...
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> its more a real-time task scheduller than a "kernel" though.
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> might make a nice little winter project this year.
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[19:05] <steve_rox> did they ever find a way to change vid res without reboot?
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[19:06] <shiftplusone> steve_rox, tvservice should do it for hdmi
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[19:06] <steve_rox> using composite
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[19:06] <shiftplusone> there's some framebuffer fiddling for that
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[19:06] <shiftplusone> google will tell you exactly what you need to do though, I don't remember
[19:06] <steve_rox> i also need a cmd that will turn on off the video out
[19:06] <shiftplusone> tvservice
[19:07] <steve_rox> i find my rpi and main pc battleing it out sometimes for the display
[19:07] <steve_rox> yeah i used that cmd but when i turn it back on the screen is blank
[19:07] <steve_rox> if i can figure the cmd out i could add a simple press button that will turn it on off
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[19:09] <shiftplusone> google should help there too
[19:09] <steve_rox> hopefully , last time i searched for related info i dident get far
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[19:15] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, how come you only have 50 pins in your lookup tables, though there are 54?
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> shoud be 64.
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[19:15] <shiftplusone> I only see FSEL going from 0 to 53
[19:16] <steve_rox> hdd upgrade complete phew
[19:16] <shiftplusone> The gpio section opens with "There are 54 general-purpose I/O (GPIO) lines split into two banks. "
[19:16] * gordonDrogon ponders.
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> gpioToGPFSEL is 60.
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> gpioToShift appears to be short.
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> looks like an updaet is needed for the new Pi compute module.
[19:17] <shiftplusone> yeah, shift was the one I was looking at
[19:18] <shiftplusone> but I guess the question remains why 60? O_o
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> I'd need to check my notes. probably because there is only 54 pins.
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[19:20] <gordonDrogon> so it's 3 bits per port (function select), each of the 5 FSEL registers has 10 pins worth of FSEL bits.
[19:21] <shiftplusone> except select register 5
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> 31-12 - reserved.
[19:21] <shiftplusone> where bitss 12-31 are reserved
[19:22] <shiftplusone> anyway, it doesn't really matter, I was just curious
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[19:22] <gordonDrogon> I'd hate to see the internal logic that feeds those to the crossbar switches...
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[19:33] <shiftplusone> "bic r7, r8, lsl FSEL16" doesn't look very 'RISC' to me >_<. "shift r8 left 18 times then AND NOT it with r7 and store the result in f7" seems a bit much for one instruction O_o
[19:34] <shiftplusone> *r7
[19:34] <gordonDrogon> if it can do it in one clock cycle then ...
[19:35] <shiftplusone> heh, nuh it wouldn't be one clock cycle
[19:35] <shiftplusone> but I am too lazy to dig out the manual to get all the details
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[19:48] <shiftplusone> Well, that's pinMode done. Time for a nap.
[19:48] <shiftplusone> 'night
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[20:19] <pragmatism> What
[20:19] <pragmatism> What's the best way to do touchscreen on my Pi?
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[20:20] <ShorTie> with your finger ??
[20:20] <pragmatism> lol
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[20:20] <pragmatism> Which touchscreens are people using?
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[20:21] <pragmatism> I want an actual touch-monitor, not just a programmaable screen
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[20:21] <ShorTie> sorry, have no idea, maybe google or the forums
[20:21] <pragmatism> Tried both
[20:21] <pragmatism> Ugh
[20:22] <ShorTie> anything with linux drivers should work i believe
[20:23] <limitz-ARSNL> quick question about pull up resistors, i2c, and the raspberry pi. I am designing a PCB right now, about to send it to fab, and I have a final question. I have 3x MCP23017 chips on the PCB communicating with the Rasberry Pi via I2C, and hooked up using a ribbon cable. I want to be sure that I DO NOT need additionall pull up resistors on the SDA/SCL lines on the PCB side. Is that correct?
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[20:26] <SpeedEvil> yes
[20:26] <SpeedEvil> one pullup only
[20:26] <SpeedEvil> Well - per line
[20:26] <SpeedEvil> Unless you're going very fast and the pullups are in the tens of ohms range
[20:27] <SpeedEvil> But then you're not really doing I2c
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[20:30] <limitz-ARSNL> right... one pullup resistor per line
[20:31] <limitz-ARSNL> so this is to say that the RPi's integrated pullup resistors should be enough right?
[20:32] <limitz-ARSNL> because ive only seen from forum posts that the Pi has integrated pull up resistors
[20:32] <limitz-ARSNL> i couldnt find anything officially
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[20:59] <dreamreal> I'm trying to calculate how long it takes to change a pin on the pi, and I'm getting roughly 210 ns - does that sound about right? My oscope can't register anywhere NEAR that kind of frequency (gabotronics xprotolab, so ~20ms), and I don't know how to measure the actual edge changes without a scope
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[21:00] <dreamreal> (alternatively, if you have any suggestions for a way to measure the edge changes, I'd love to hear them)
[21:00] <pksato> get a more fast scope. :)
[21:01] <dreamreal> pksato: if I had the money for it, I would
[21:01] <dreamreal> please don't think that hasn't occurred to me :)
[21:02] <pksato> It is not on BCM soc public datasheet
[21:02] <pksato> ?
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[21:04] <dreamreal> hmm, looking
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[21:07] <pksato> or you want to know how fast CPU change gpio state?
[21:08] <dreamreal> I want to know how fast the GPIO state *can* change, effectively
[21:09] <dreamreal> like, if I set up a series of pins to go off in order (i.e., a sequence), how fast would I be able to do so, turning on each one individually?
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[21:12] <pksato> http://codeandlife.com/2012/07/03/benchmarking-raspberry-pi-gpio-speed/
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[21:25] <Zackio> Hello, I recently took a backup of my Pi's sdcard, and I wish to restore that backup, will a simple `dd if=rpi.img of=/dev/sdb` work?
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[21:27] <Zackio> (I created the backup, also, using dd)
[21:27] <Zackio> But only the main OS partition
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[21:37] <gordonDrogon> dreamreal, AIUI, the GPIO access is locked to the 19.2MHz clock, so from a software point of view, you're not going to excede half that.
[21:38] <dreamreal> gordonDrogon: *nod*
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[21:38] <dreamreal> I wasn't worried about exceeding any specific timing, just wondered what the timing WAS
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> limitz-ARSNL, check the schematics - the Pi has 1.8K pull-ups on the I2C lines.
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[21:38] <limitz-ARSNL> gordondrogon: thanks, appreciate it
[21:39] <dreamreal> pksato: thank you, BTW
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[21:40] <gordonDrogon> limitz-ARSNL, I've checked the outputs on a scope too - you'll be ok at the standard 100KHz, but the signals get a bit ropey over about 800Khz. I have a board with a mcp23017's on it and that's directly on-top of the Pi and 800Khz is its max (the chips will do 1.5Mb IIRC)
[21:40] <limitz-ARSNL> ill just leave them off
[21:41] <limitz-ARSNL> seems like the pi's integral resistors are more than capable
[21:41] <dreamreal> I wonder how the python version runs so freaking quickly
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[21:41] <gordonDrogon> dreamreal, python version of what?
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[21:41] <dreamreal> http://codeandlife.com/2012/07/03/benchmarking-raspberry-pi-gpio-speed/
[21:42] <dreamreal> ^^^ the python RPi GPIO functions were reported as being twice as fast as the direct C access
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> 44KHz? that's not that fast...
[21:44] <Zackio> :/
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[21:46] <dreamreal> oh, crap, KHz, not MHz
[21:46] <dreamreal> never mind :)
[21:47] <dreamreal> that's far more in line with what I was expecting
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[21:51] <beaky> hello
[21:51] <beaky> so i broke my raspberry pi
[21:51] <beaky> what enclosure should i buy for my next raspberry pi so i do not break it in the future
[21:51] <beaky> problem is most enclosures cost more than teh pi itself ^^
[21:52] <gordonDrogon> pibow.
[21:52] <gordonDrogon> how did you break it?
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[21:53] <steve_rox> i think its more fun to make own case
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[21:55] <beaky> gordonDrogon: i dropped it, and the plastic bits in the sd card holder chipped away. then i tried rubber banding it back then capacitor C6 came off
[21:56] <beaky> then i tried forcing the sd back and the pins in the holder got bent badly
[21:56] <IT_Sean> beaky.... well... is a major klutz.
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[21:56] <beaky> maybei could replace the holder if I can find a equivalent replacement part somewhere
[21:56] <steve_rox> well the cap is easy to fix prob but the sd reader drives me mad
[21:56] <IT_Sean> beaky: I hightly recommend one of the many varieties of PiBow cases
[21:57] <beaky> wow the pibow looks beautiful
[21:57] <geordie> beaky: the pibow is bulletproof.
[21:57] <IT_Sean> *(note: not actually bulletproof)
[21:57] <beaky> it costs just as much as the pi tho :(
[21:57] <steve_rox> that the gaypride case as i call it ? :-D
[21:57] <beaky> lol
[21:57] <IT_Sean> Yeah, but... it protects your Pi so you don't snap off C6 when you drop ot
[21:57] <beaky> ok i will get the pibow
[21:58] <IT_Sean> steve_rox: there are several non-rainbow varieites of PiBow, you ignorant little turd.
[21:58] <steve_rox> charming
[21:59] <geordie> please, this is a black-and-white channel ;)
[21:59] <steve_rox> you so nice to me
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[22:06] <beaky> the thing about pibows and similar durable pi enclosure is that gpios might be harder to acess
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[22:09] <steve_rox> i think its best to avoid cases that make the sd stick out the siide
[22:09] <steve_rox> i dropped my v1 pi and it smashed the card reader
[22:10] <steve_rox> that was a case from modmypi
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[22:10] <steve_rox> gpio acessable if you cut the vents out a bit
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[22:14] <steve_rox> the way you reacted suggested it
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[22:16] <steve_rox> sheesh everyones driveing me mad today
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[22:19] <steve_rox> while i say sorry , i dont take kindly to being called a "ignorant little turd"
[22:20] <IT_Sean> I accept your apology, and apologize for calling you an "ignorant little turd"
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[22:20] <geordie> "Keep reaching for that rainbow" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer%27s_Phobia
[22:20] <steve_rox> :-)
[22:20] <steve_rox> thanks
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[22:21] <steve_rox> id pm you the reasion to why im so rawr but i dont know how to on this client :-P
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[22:21] <steve_rox> now i have to lower my blood pressure again
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[22:27] <ShorTie> eat lots of oatmeal
[22:28] <steve_rox> not sure that would work
[22:28] <rikkib> or a pill like I
[22:28] <rikkib> chill pill
[22:28] <steve_rox> might have to
[22:29] <steve_rox> so much stress at moment
[22:29] <steve_rox> there was a recient death in the family and im trying to hold things together
[22:29] <ShorTie> So So Sorry to hear that
[22:30] <steve_rox> thx
[22:30] <steve_rox> my emotions have been all over the place :-/
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[22:31] <steve_rox> wish this lith ion charger was faster
[22:32] <Encrypt> Even this would do the job: http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7570__ZIPPY_400mAh_20C_single_cell.html
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[22:33] <steve_rox> right now im using a single cell pcb to do it
[22:33] <steve_rox> power source is a usb
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[22:34] <steve_rox> got 2 charged so far
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[22:40] <steve_rox> think i might order a "Nitecore i4" charger
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[23:02] <TheBestJohn> the i4 is pretty good
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[23:03] <TheBestJohn> take a look at 26650 batteries if you're looking for a massive amount of storages
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[23:49] <dcj123> Has anyone got Xwayland working on the Raspberry Pi?
[23:49] <dcj123> that is X programs loading on the pi
[23:50] <dcj123> on wayland
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