#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-06-03

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[0:00] <Munt> thank a million aton` and Squarepy <3 that’s helped me a lot!
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[0:00] <aton`> Sansveni: http://overthewire.org/wargames/semtex/
[0:01] <Sansveni> Squarepy: MikeOS seems interesting.
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[0:02] <Sansveni> aton`, Dang, that's awesome.
[0:02] <Squarepy> yeah, mike from the linux voice podcast jokes about now and then, as he wrote it
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[0:03] <aton`> "Over 60 system calls for use by third-party programs", "Includes a BASIC interpreter with 46 instructions", "PC speaker sound and serial terminal connection"
[0:03] <Sansveni> My friend and I wondered once about a game where people try to take over each other's boxes.
[0:03] <aton`> sounds like a must have!
[0:04] <aton`> Sansveni: yeah thats it
[0:04] <Sansveni> Doesn't mention anything about a power button. :|
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[0:05] <Sansveni> One more question, along a slightly different vein...I once stumbled across some forum threads about self-taught vs. college programmers, which is "better"...
[0:07] <leio> depends.
[0:07] <aton`> i guess a combination is good. self-taught brings in lots of motivation while college brings in structure
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[0:08] <Squarepy> good programmers are also good communicators, something you will not learn at home
[0:08] <aton`> Squarepy: thats a joke, right?
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[0:08] <ShadowJK> Not really
[0:08] <ShadowJK> (a joke)
[0:09] <Sansveni> Well, I'm about to go to college anyway (community for a year, then transfer after I figure things out), and I've so far found self-teaching hard...
[0:09] <aton`> Squarepy: they should be. but so many of the basement kids are not :P
[0:09] <Sansveni> I mean sure, if I have questions, I can Google them, except what I tend to do is skip over all the basics by accident, then hop around the place.
[0:10] <Squarepy> aton`, the main purpose of code is to communicate to others, secondly it is to define the actions of the computer, etc. etc. :)
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[0:12] <aton`> i think you define "communicate" a bit broader than what i was thinking of
[0:13] <aton`> every life form is a good communicator after all
[0:13] <Squarepy> ok, no need to get spiritual here aton` :p
[0:13] <aton`> still lots of the good coders are not good at communicating with other people
[0:14] <aton`> i am far away from spiritual, thats molecular biology, hard science
[0:14] <Squarepy> sure
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[0:15] <Sansveni> Thanks again guys for the advice (I should use IRC more as it's hard to find programmers out in the country).
[0:16] <Squarepy> good luck
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[0:17] <Sansveni> I have to skedaddle, for now.
[0:17] <aton`> Sansveni: yea good luck and beware of channels like ##c. there is a strong wind there
[0:17] <aton`> ;)
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[0:18] <Sansveni> Ah okay, thanks, xD
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[0:20] <hfp> Hey I need to make the sensors hooked up to the Raspberry Pi detachable. What kind of connectors/sockets should I use? I need two different shapes so they can't be confused, one has 3 wires the other one has 5 wires.
[0:21] <hfp> Preferrable from canada.newark.com so it can ship with the other things I'm getting
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[0:43] <trickyhero> not a real support question I guess, but do SD cards randomly crap out on anyone else?
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[2:41] <Darkwell> at what voltage does the rpi consume least wattage ?
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[2:42] <Darkwell> I mean feeding power to the rpi at a voltage demanding the least amperage
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[2:43] <Darkwell> wattage not amperage.. im aware of the p = ui
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[2:51] <ShadowJK> One could say there are only two voltages, too low: crashing, and too high: frying
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[4:35] <q_a_z_steve> shiftplusone: Isn’t berryboot supposed to launch into a GUI? I don’t know if I’m properly loaded: asking for a username and password. Where would I get that?
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[4:36] <mahamoti> hello
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[4:37] <wbk> http://pastebin.com/Fn5prGpd
[4:37] <wbk> often usb goes down
[4:37] <wbk> this is dmesg
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[4:41] <mahamoti> i want my raspberry pi to run a volumio webserver that is accessible over a local wireless intranet. would it be possible to create a wireless intranet using a USB wireless dongle, or is it necessary to use a regular wireless router, and plug the pi into the LAN port of the router (leaving the WLAN port empty) ?
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[4:59] <clever> mahamoti: you want hostapd
[4:59] <clever> mahamoti: search the pi forums for that and you should find some guides
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[6:26] <seefree> Anyone in here made a phone with the Pi yet?
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[6:47] <Brod> bloody hell I just got busy, one minute no work, no school - next minute fulltime both... -.-
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[6:48] <wbk> http://pastebin.com/Fn5prGpd
[6:48] <shiftplusone> hurray
[6:48] <wbk> is it normal?
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[6:48] <djapo> is cma working?
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[6:49] <wbk> are you talking to me?
[6:49] <shiftplusone> djapo, probably not
[6:49] <djapo> i have the latest stable kernel but it does not work
[6:49] <djapo> shiftplusone: why?
[6:49] <djapo> i get this error http://codepad.org/DagRr4jA
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[6:49] <shiftplusone> djapo, it was an experimental thing they tried. it's not supported or advertised as working. hasn't been developed since they tried it ages ago either
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[6:51] <djapo> shiftplusone: who is they?
[6:51] <shiftplusone> the firmware devs
[6:52] <djapo> s/is/are/
[6:52] <djapo> hmm
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[10:13] <rosapoP> a cheap SD card survived 10months
[10:14] <rosapoP> of continius use not bad
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[10:21] <gordonDrogon> I'm still on my originals - 2 years now.
[10:22] <gordonDrogon> although they're no-longer in daily use.
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[10:26] <rosapoP> mine has run as a SSH tunnel and webserver
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[10:54] <gordonDrogon> what webserver?
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> I've got to do soem stuff in a few months with a web server - thinking of just sticking apache on it because that's what I'm most familiar with.
[10:55] <gordonDrogon> I did do a test apache/mysql/php way back and it was adequate - this is just apache and C (or bash) CGI's.
[10:58] <Brod> aussie politics is much more entertaining than it should be
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[11:26] <Jer3> Is there some special channel for raspberry pi camera projects or is this THE channel for everything having to do with raspberry pi?
[11:27] <ShorTie> here or the forums
[11:27] <ShorTie> what are you looking for ??
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[11:30] <Jer3> I've been trying to find info about streaming uncompressed images from the pi but the info is rather fragmented. The ultimate goal is to do this without vlc, gstreamer and the likes. The V4L2 driver for raspicam looks like it might be what I'm looking for but can it deliver the performance I need...? That would be 1280x720@49fps
[11:31] <Jer3> And yeah I'm using raspberry pi camera. Streaming prerecorded video stream isn't what I'm trying to achieve.
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[11:33] <ShorTie> who are you trying to stream it too ??
[11:34] <ShorTie> like just a pc/web page, a smart phone adds a kicker in
[11:36] <Jer3> just between computers. receiving end will be able to handle the stream. after the streaming bit works I'll try to add some opencv processing to the image stream
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[11:39] <ShorTie> have you looked at this by chance https://github.com/silvanmelchior/RPi_Cam_Web_Interface
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[11:42] <Jer3> I think I've seen that before and it seems to use compressed video. But now thinking about it, I suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to change the bits where the image is compressed and rewrite those.
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[12:32] <wbk> hi guys
[12:32] <wbk> i get usb stuck repeated
[12:32] <wbk> http://pastebin.com/Fn5prGpd
[12:32] <wbk> this is dmesg log
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[12:35] <owen_> wbk: what is the usb device?
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[12:38] <owen_> is it connected via a hub or directly to the pi
[12:40] <owen_> Jer3: netcat?
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[12:42] <wbk> owen_, hard drive
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[12:43] <wbk> owen_: hub
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[12:59] <akegalj> is it possible to run vnc client and get remote desktop from another machine in local network which is running vnc server in a efficient way (small latency, good video quality)
[13:00] <shiftplusone> I haven't tried nx on the pi, but when using it on the desktop it's like being on the other computer.
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[13:01] <shiftplusone> I suspect it won't be quite like that on the pi, if it works at all
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[13:01] <akegalj> shiftplusone: i was reading they managed to compile and run nx on rpi, but don't know about preformance
[13:01] <akegalj> shiftplusone: thnx for sharing comment
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[13:16] <photographer> :) hice to see this channel! where to buy in SERBIA?
[13:16] <photographer> *nice
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[13:17] <shiftplusone> photographer, check farnell/element14 and rs, they're both global distributors.
[13:18] <photographer> ok. thanks, what is basic set that i need to start using pi? what kind of power supply?
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[13:26] <shiftplusone> 5v, microusb, capable of providing at least 700mA
[13:26] <shiftplusone> but 1.2A or even 2A is great.
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[13:38] <wbk> owen_, with or without hub, is the same
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[13:48] <wbk> http://theiopage.blogspot.it/2012/06/increasing-raspberry-pis-usb-host.html
[13:48] <wbk> i should do this to solve the problem?
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[13:50] <Encrypt> wbk, What is your problem?
[13:51] <wbk> Encrypt, usb goes down
[13:51] <wbk> http://pastebin.com/Fn5prGpd
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[13:51] <Encrypt> wbk, And your peripheral doesn't work?
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[13:52] <Encrypt> I think I had this problem a year ago
[13:52] <Encrypt> That was a software problem if I remembre well
[13:53] <wbk> Encrypt, it works, but often it goes down
[13:53] <wbk> and i do need to restart
[13:53] <wbk> to make it work again
[13:53] <Encrypt> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=47239
[13:53] <Encrypt> "SOLUTION: run rpi-update"
[13:54] <Encrypt> Did you try that?
[13:54] <owen_> wbk: sorry, got distracted. My bet is that the hd is not being ensed cos it "doesn't" have the power. Can you power it separately?
[13:55] <owen_> not being sensed
[13:55] <Encrypt> wbk, Is your Pi powered thanks to a Hub?
[13:55] <wbk> owen_, yes
[13:56] <wbk> yes, hub is supplied indipendently
[13:56] <Encrypt> wbk, You could try a Dlink DUB-H4 hub
[13:57] <Encrypt> It has a high current port
[13:57] <wbk> Encrypt, the problem is with and without hub
[13:57] <wbk> so this means that that's not an hub problem
[13:57] <owen_> wbk: those sort of errors are atypical of either a failing/faild hdd or one without sufficiebt power
[13:58] <Encrypt> wbk, But you have a "standard" Hub, right?
[13:58] <Encrypt> http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/usb/dub-h4-4-port-usb-2-hub
[13:58] <wbk> owen_, so, "run rpi-update" is not usefull?
[13:58] <Encrypt> The Dlink DUB-H4 has a 2A port
[13:58] <Encrypt> It would power your hardrive without any problem
[13:58] <owen_> rpi-update useful all the time
[13:58] <aton`> is there any chance of having motion detection on the pi camera (not a usb webcam) without installing that mmal-motion binary from someones dropbox?
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[14:01] <owen_> aton`: is this of any interest http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/06/farnell-xtrinsic-mems-sensor-board-for-raspberry-pi/
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[14:01] <wbk> Encrypt, what do you mean for "standard" ?
[14:01] <Encrypt> I mean 0.5A on each port
[14:02] <owen_> aton`: and here is another one, bit different approach. http://shallowsky.com/blog/hardware/pi-motion-camera-2.html
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[14:04] <wbk> 10 alarm/raspberrypi-firmware-bootloader 20140510-1 [installed]
[14:04] <wbk> Bootloader files for Raspberry Pi
[14:04] <wbk> 11 alarm/raspberrypi-firmware-bootloader-x 20140510-1 [installed]
[14:04] <wbk> Bootloader with extra codecs for Raspberry Pi
[14:04] <wbk> 12 alarm/raspberrypi-firmware-examples 20140510-1 [installed]
[14:04] <wbk> Firmware example sources for Raspberry Pi
[14:04] <wbk> 13 alarm/raspberrypi-firmware-tools 20140510-1 [installed]
[14:04] <wbk> Firmware tools and header files for Raspberry Pi
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[14:04] <wbk> looks like all upgraded
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[14:07] <aton`> owen_: the second one seems promising, thank you!
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[14:07] <wbk> owen_, Encrypt, you got sort of these problem?
[14:08] <wbk> usb works always well?
[14:09] <Encrypt> Let me check
[14:10] <Encrypt> wbk, http://pastebin.com/MZGDeGrb
[14:10] <owen_> wbk: I have to boot up with the portable hd plugged into one of the usb ports on the pi board.
[14:11] <Encrypt> I still have the same problem in fact :D
[14:11] <Encrypt> But it works :D
[14:13] <owen_> wbk: also my wifi dongle wont work unless it is plugged into an on board usb port, same with my Leostick (an arduino on a usb stick). What does work through a port is mice, keyboards and memsticks
[14:13] <owen_> you gotta experiment
[14:14] <wbk> i've got to kill my rpi and buy something serious
[14:14] <wbk> like beagleboard
[14:15] <owen_> wbk: I have an inline usb monitor to measure bus voltage and current
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[14:18] <owen_> IMHO, the RPi should not be used for a lot of stuff, it aint got the steam. I have a networked hdd and thats what I use for mass storage. Now got a gertduino for arduino work
[14:19] <owen_> anyway, its a good board for experimentation
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[14:27] <Brod> think i just watched inception for the first time, not sure if a dream or..
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[14:28] <shiftplusone> O_o
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[14:30] <Brod> movie raises some good points about what the hell is life.
[14:30] <Brod> and by good i mean entertaining.. and by points i mean point.
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[14:34] <shiftplusone> o_O
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[14:37] <Brod> wow shiftplusone did you get a vps when you were at rmit?
[14:38] <shiftplusone> nope
[14:38] <shiftplusone> the CS folks get all sorts of perks, but EEs get nothing like that
[14:38] <shiftplusone> After a while, I discovered that there's free web hosting and ssh access, but it wasn't documented anywhere.
[14:38] <shiftplusone> but that's about all I found.
[14:39] <Brod> I just found out I have a amazon hosted vps with 190gb, bunch of enterprise programs including business ones so not specific to me..
[14:39] <shiftplusone> cool
[14:39] <Brod> hope this is legit, time for a speedtest ...
[14:41] <Brod> o
[14:41] <Brod> m
[14:41] <Brod> g
[14:42] <shiftplusone> The thing I found most useful was the library journal database, since it allows you to disprove bs in the matter of minutes, instead of the days it normally took.
[14:42] <Brod> 66mb down/63mb up :o
[14:42] <shiftplusone> is that all?
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[14:44] <Brod> .. well, I'm not totally sure. it appears to be amazon hosted so I was expecting something a little higher but at the same time I sit on roguhly 600kbs-800kbs down
[14:44] <shiftplusone> 'stalya! =(
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[14:45] <Brod> ugh no.. just compares itself to amazon, isp is rmit ip is melbourne
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[14:46] <Brod> might play round with that tomorrow, maybe even get a rpi to talk to it
[14:46] <TobiasFar> hi. i've browsed the web with little success for a while for an answer. do you know a way to build a custom llvm/clang based toolchain for cross compiling to raspbian on OS X?
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[14:49] <Brod> night all
[14:50] <shiftplusone> 'night
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[16:04] <mojtaba> Hi, I have a fresh install of raspbian and I have network unreachable problem. In froum I saw someone said change eth0 to eth1. And now I can not even ping the PI. please help
[16:05] <mojtaba> It is headless.
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[16:06] <shiftplusone> would help to figure out why you're getting 'network unreachable' it sounds like a configuration issue, not anything to do with interface name
[16:06] <shiftplusone> output of ifconfig -a?
[16:06] <BCMM> mojtaba: are you using an external USB network adaptor?
[16:06] <BCMM> mojtaba: otherwise, i can't see why eth1 would exist
[16:06] <mojtaba> BCMM: no
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[16:07] <mojtaba> BCMM: in the thread it said so. :(
[16:07] <mojtaba> BCMM: Do you know how can I fix this problem? (at least change it back to eth0?)
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[16:08] <BCMM> mojtaba: i don't know what you changed - /etc/network/interfaces perhaps?
[16:08] <mojtaba> BCMM: yes
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[16:08] <BCMM> mojtaba: it seems likely that you will need to either reflash the SD card, or find a monitor you can borrow
[16:08] <BCMM> that is, make your pi temporarily not headless
[16:09] <mojtaba> BCMM: I guess I should do a refresh installation. But how should I fix the network unreachable problem after that?
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[16:09] <BCMM> mojtaba: can i have more details about that problem?
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[16:10] <mojtaba> BCMM: e.g. I am running a command (like backing up my host) and in the middle of it the ssh exit (broken piped) and after that pinging the PI just gives the host is unreachable
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[16:11] <BCMM> mojtaba: how is the network set up? the pi's built-in ethernet jack is connected to a router?
[16:11] <mojtaba> BCMM: I normally unplug the PI and the plug it again, and it starts to work until next occurrence.
[16:11] <mojtaba> BCMM: Yes
[16:12] <BCMM> no idea, sorry
[16:12] <BCMM> it might be worth having a look at dmesg output on the pi after the problem has occurred
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[16:13] <mojtaba> BCMM: what is the most stable distro for pi?
[16:13] <BCMM> mojtaba: i don't think they really differ in how stable the network is
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[16:24] <biberao> hi
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[16:24] <biberao> my raspberry just has one red light
[16:24] <IT_Sean> PWR?
[16:24] <biberao> how could i detect which problems i have?
[16:24] <biberao> yes IT_Sean
[16:25] <IT_Sean> Okay, so, it's getting power. that's good.
[16:25] <IT_Sean> Now...
[16:25] <IT_Sean> Does it have a properly imaged (with OS) SD card inserted?
[16:25] <aaa801> mhm, seems to be picking up my usb arcade controller, just not as a joypad / input device =/ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7580697/
[16:25] <biberao> ive tried 3 different cards
[16:25] <IT_Sean> Did you write the OS to the SD card?
[16:25] <biberao> they were working 2 days ago
[16:25] <IT_Sean> The SD cards were working ,and then stopped. Ok... Sounds like the SD card got corrupted. Reimage and retry.
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[16:26] <shiftplusone> biberao, try pushing the card onto the contacts with your thumb while powering it up and see if the ACT led flashes at all.
[16:26] <biberao> like 3 different cards
[16:26] <biberao> ?
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[16:26] <biberao> shiftplusone: did that and nohing
[16:26] <overrider> So far i haven't had a single SDCARD being corrupted. And i pray that it stays that way
[16:26] <shiftplusone> I'd try soldering a different sd holder on at this point
[16:26] <biberao> 3 different brands
[16:27] <overrider> Only 2 times in all this time i somehow broke the install, but that was an OS upgrade issue i am pretty sure
[16:27] <biberao> i think something broke
[16:27] * overrider knows on wood
[16:27] <overrider> knocks
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[16:29] <biberao> isnt it supposed to make some noise?
[16:30] <shiftplusone> maybe give the contacts a clean with some rubbing alcohol or something
[16:30] <biberao> my pi died :(
[16:30] <MrVector> RIP :(
[16:31] <shiftplusone> doubt it, but okay
[16:31] <biberao> shiftplusone: then what could it be?
[16:31] <biberao> it doesnt make any noise
[16:31] <biberao> its just being powered
[16:31] <shiftplusone> it never makes noise
[16:31] <shiftplusone> what would it make noise with?
[16:31] <biberao> ive heard noise before
[16:31] <biberao> or im dreaming
[16:31] <shiftplusone> dreaming
[16:32] <IT_Sean> you are dreaming.
[16:32] <IT_Sean> The Pi has no capability to make noise unless you hook up speakers to it.
[16:32] <shiftplusone> even then, it doesn't make noise when booting
[16:32] <IT_Sean> ^
[16:32] <biberao> hey
[16:32] <biberao> if i plug the network cable
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[16:32] <biberao> it only lights the led after the boot sequence
[16:33] <biberao> or before the sdcard part?
[16:33] <IT_Sean> which LED?
[16:33] <biberao> the 100 led
[16:33] <shiftplusone> while booting, not straight away
[16:33] <shiftplusone> after the kernel brings up the hw
[16:33] <biberao> thought so
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[16:33] <biberao> just the pwr led then :(
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[16:34] <Encrypt> biberao, What is your power supply?
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[16:34] <Encrypt> Most of the time, problems are caused by a power supply issue...
[16:35] <biberao> http://uk.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/standard/2254794-40.jpg
[16:35] <shiftplusone> not this kind of problem
[16:35] <biberao> similar to this
[16:35] <overrider> Maybe it can make noise if you mix + and -
[16:35] <shiftplusone> O_o
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[16:36] <shiftplusone> a fizzle and a pop, if anything.
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[16:37] <biberao> so i lost my precious thingy :|
[16:37] <shiftplusone> jeez, people give up easily these days
[16:38] <IT_Sean> ^
[16:38] <biberao> man
[16:38] <biberao> i dont have the money for another
[16:38] <biberao> :(
[16:39] <overrider> Oh come on, its probably not broken
[16:39] <overrider> I really abuse my PI's - have yet to fully destroy one
[16:39] <biberao> maybe the sdcard part broke
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[16:39] <overrider> Well there was one, after it was 'soaked' with salt water while it was on.
[16:40] <biberao> so you're telling me that 3 sdcards are corrupted?
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[16:40] <Squarepy> biberao, he's telling you not to panic and to bring a towel
[16:41] <biberao> a towel?
[16:41] <aaa801> Anyone know which kernel module i need to enable in a recompile to get this device to register as a input ? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7580697/
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[16:42] <overrider> biberao: do you get anything on the screen?
[16:42] <shiftplusone> aaa801, is that meant to show up as a serial device?
[16:42] <biberao> overrider: no
[16:42] <aaa801> shiftplusone: its a duel gamepad controller
[16:43] * aaa801 shrugs
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[16:43] <aaa801> urgha, front page of raspberrypi looks soo bloody childish now
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[16:44] <biberao> ok maybe
[16:44] <biberao> one card could corrupted
[16:44] <biberao> i cant remember if the others are working properly
[16:44] <biberao> hehe
[16:44] <Squarepy> breath through the nose biberao :)
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[16:45] <biberao> Squarepy: :|
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[16:45] <shiftplusone> it's not a corrupted card issue, you can reinstall onto a formatted card and continue on your merry way. it's "I can't read this card" issue, usually caused by improper OS install or poor contact.
[16:45] <biberao> i need to go get an adapter
[16:45] <overrider> biberao: /j #beagleboard
[16:46] <biberao> for?
[16:46] <overrider> nooo
[16:46] <overrider> ignore that
[16:46] <biberao> overrider: you're offering me one?
[16:46] <overrider> I am trying to find out if the BB has a serial port just like rpi
[16:46] <overrider> Ignore it.
[16:46] <shiftplusone> free beagleboards from overrider for all!
[16:46] <overrider> Try your SDCARD in your Laptop, format it, does it work? Then reinstall OS onto it, try to boot again
[16:46] <overrider> biberao: how are you powering your RPI?
[16:47] <biberao> overrider: with a normal power supply
[16:47] <biberao> i dont know the name
[16:47] <shiftplusone> aaa801, google is giving me some conflicting information. Some info says it's just an HID device which should just work. I'll keep looking.
[16:48] <aaa801> shiftplusone: ye it 'should' just work
[16:48] <aaa801> ima go look through menuconfig ;)
[16:48] <shiftplusone> aaa801, so this is a custom kernel?
[16:48] <Encrypt> <shiftplusone> free beagleboards from overrider for all! // \o/
[16:48] <aaa801> its latest stable rpi main
[16:48] <aaa801> whatever rpi-update drags down
[16:48] <overrider> zzz
[16:48] <shiftplusone> aaa801, pastebin the .config?
[16:49] <aaa801> mhm hold on
[16:50] <aaa801> shiftplusone: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7580844/
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[16:51] <shiftplusone> hmm..... CONFIG_HID_GENERIC=y
[16:51] <shiftplusone> seems right
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[16:51] <aaa801> ima feed it into a virtualbox running ubuntu and see what it spits out in dmesg
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[16:52] <shiftplusone> aaa801, http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=67964#p497349
[16:52] <shiftplusone> hid-generic according to that
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[16:53] <biberao> so
[16:53] <biberao> who wants to help me financially?
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[16:57] <overrider> What have you tried to make it work so far?
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[16:58] <overrider> Maybe the fuse is blown?
[16:58] <overrider> Ah no, it powers on
[16:58] <aaa801> shiftplusone: http://pimame.org/forum/discussion/360/xin-mo-dual-controller-not-working/p1
[16:58] <aaa801> seems to need a kernel patch
[16:58] <biberao> overrider: me?
[16:58] <overrider> biberao: yes
[16:59] <shiftplusone> ah
[16:59] <biberao> nope
[16:59] <biberao> i know nothing about electronics
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[17:04] <overrider> can you follow the reinstallation procedure from the website and just try the sdcard again?
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[17:04] <Encrypt> overrider, Maybe he could take & post a high-quality photo of his Pi?
[17:05] <Encrypt> We may have a look and tell him whether everything's all right
[17:07] <aaa801> shiftplusone: # CONFIG_HID_XINMO is not set
[17:07] <aaa801> thats prob part of the issue there
[17:07] <overrider> Yeah; or a small movie
[17:07] <overrider> or so
[17:08] <Encrypt> biberao, ^
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[17:10] <biberao> Encrypt: for me its fine
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[17:14] <biberao> i can do that
[17:14] <biberao> :D
[17:15] <Encrypt> :]
[17:15] <biberao> but im gonna try the other cards
[17:15] <Encrypt> biberao, A photo will be enough :)
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[17:15] <Encrypt> A video will upload very, very slowly
[17:15] <Encrypt> Also, do a potograph of both sides
[17:16] <Encrypt> photograph*
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[17:19] <biberao> Encrypt: will do
[17:19] <biberao> :D
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[17:24] <biberao> bbs
[17:24] <biberao> the camera isnt here
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[18:17] <aton`> hm my rpi crashes when i stream video (but only if hdmi is not plugged in)
[18:18] <aton`> ah no, the stream just hangs and then crashes
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[18:19] <mythos> maybe it hangs because it crashed
[18:19] <aton`> yes, but i dont get it how having a hdmi monitor plugged in changes streaming video
[18:20] <aton`> do i need to use -n while streaming?
[18:20] <aton`> i thought it creates a preview anyways
[18:20] <mythos> i dunno what you are doing
[18:20] <mythos> you want to stream from where to what?
[18:20] <aton`> raspivid -t 0 -hf -vf -o - | nc host port
[18:20] <aton`> streaming video to another host
[18:21] <aton`> it works well when a hdmi device is plugged into the raspberry pi
[18:23] <mythos> never heard of raspivid before. nevermind. i'm surely the wrong person to ask
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[18:25] <chaitime> hello
[18:25] <chaitime> Is it possible to make a cable for a shield that uses the GPIO? so it doesnt have to be stacked
[18:26] <plugwash> yes
[18:27] <IT_Sean> An old floppy cable will do nicely
[18:27] <plugwash> http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/psg-rpi-gertribbon/raspberry-pi-gertribbon-100mm/dp/SC13006 is a ready made one, you can also make them yourself
[18:27] <IT_Sean> ^ or that
[18:27] <plugwash> IT_Sean, not really
[18:27] <IT_Sean> Um, yes. Really.
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[18:27] <chaitime> thanks guys
[18:28] <plugwash> IT_Sean, assuming by a "shield" he means a device designed to be plugged directly into the Pi he needs a male to female cable like the one I linked
[18:28] <IT_Sean> Ah. True.
[18:28] <chaitime> IT_Sean: and plugwash I have a another microcontroller, it snot rpi, but kinda similar, it has a 8 pin IO port, technically its the same right? as in, I can make/get a cable that makes it so I have to stack the shield on top right?
[18:28] <IT_Sean> I hadn't thought of that.
[18:28] <chaitime> shield, I mean, well in this case, a UPS battery
[18:29] <chaitime> yea it plugs directly into IO port
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[18:30] <plugwash> and you can't just turn a female to female cable into a male to female cable by plugging in a load of pins, if you try that you will get a mirror image connection
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[18:32] <aton`> is there a chance to see how much power is pulled from a usb port?
[18:32] <Encrypt> aton`, Yes, with a multimeter
[18:32] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[18:33] <aton`> softwarewise?
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[18:33] <IT_Sean> No... you will need a multimeter to know what the device is actually drawing.
[18:33] <plugwash> aton`, The Pi has no build in ability to measure it, to measure it would require an external sensor inserted between the Pi and the USB device
[18:34] <aton`> nah i am trying to find out how much the pi uses. i plugged it into the usb from my main computer
[18:34] <IT_Sean> You'd still need a multimeter for that.
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[18:34] <IT_Sean> The raspi has no way to 'detect' how much power it is drawing.
[18:34] <Encrypt> aton`, What about a wattmeter?
[18:34] <IT_Sean> It will be 700mA or less, then.
[18:35] <Encrypt> You can directly plug it on the wall plug
[18:35] <Encrypt> And it will show you how mocu power your system uses
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[18:40] <bauhaus1919> hello all, can you give details about raspberry pi's boot sequence?
[18:41] <plugwash> what part of it are you interested in?
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[18:42] <plugwash> roughly speaking an onchip bootrom running on the vpu (part of the gpu) loads the first stage bootloader from the SD card and runs it on the vpu, that starts up certain critical hardware and loads the gpu firmware from the SD card, the gpu firmware loads the linux kernel places it in memory and starts the arm core, from that point on it's pretty much a normal linux boot process
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[18:46] <bauhaus1919> plugwash: i see, now can you refer me to information regarding the vpu
[18:47] <IT_Sean> What, exactly, are you looking for?
[18:47] <plugwash> not a whole lot of info on it, we know from forum posts by broadcom guys that it's some kind of vector processor
[18:48] <plugwash> and that basically it was intended to be the "glue processor" that tied the various functional units in the gpu together
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[18:49] <plugwash> but the details are under NDA (no, i'm NOT a signatury to said NDA) and while there have been some revese engineering efforts I don't think they got very far
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[18:49] <bauhaus1919> its good to have those details, i have had trouble with those beore
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[18:50] <bauhaus1919> so you are telling me to buy a board with Zero documentation
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[18:50] <IT_Sean> We're not telling you to do anything, bauhaus1919.
[18:50] <bauhaus1919> so you are telling me not to buy it
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[18:50] <IT_Sean> We're not telling you to do (or to not do) anything, bauhaus1919.
[18:50] <bauhaus1919> so its a joke
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[18:51] <gordonDrogon> is it?
[18:51] <IT_Sean> is what a joke?
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> 2.5 million+ sales ...
[18:51] * IT_Sean owns two raspis himself
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[18:51] <gordonDrogon> I have about 10 mow.
[18:51] <IT_Sean> jeez.
[18:51] <plugwash> the vpu is closed and the vpu is a critical part of the boot process, if you aren't ok with that then look elsewhere
[18:52] <IT_Sean> Basically... what he said. ^
[18:52] <IT_Sean> Most of the Big Hairy details of the SoC are not disclosed.
[18:52] <bauhaus1919> yeah i dont need to know all of it, just i have seen other boards that have inconsistent behavior
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> one day we'll learn about it, but for now most of us just accept that it's a nice little board that runs Linux.
[18:53] <ShorTie> very nicely at that too...
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[18:53] <gordonDrogon> the linux side is 100% open source if that matters.
[18:53] <bauhaus1919> i just continue to be lead on in the embedded world
[18:54] <bauhaus1919> you buy the board and it just sits on the shelf
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[18:54] <IT_Sean> what?
[18:54] <bauhaus1919> after hours of confusion
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[18:54] <IT_Sean> I assure you... most of the raspis sold are not "sitting on a shelf"... or, if they are, they are DOING something on that shelf.
[18:54] <IT_Sean> Have you actually used a raspi?
[18:54] <bauhaus1919> i have use beagleoard and basic stamp
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[18:55] <biberao> yo
[18:55] <CharlieBra7o> yo.
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[18:55] <IT_Sean> So no, then. Okay. The raspi is a bit of a different animal, bauhaus1919. I suggest you actually try it before you declare it 'useless'
[18:56] <plugwash> bottom line is you get to treat the vpu blob like you would treat the bios on your PC, you have some configuration options (which are documented) for telling it what to boot and giving you some control over the hardware initialisation but you have no visibility of it's internals
[18:56] <bauhaus1919> so i want to boot my own kernel
[18:57] <plugwash> you can boot your own kernel (obviously it has to be built for the Pi), you just put it on the boot partition and put it's name in config.txt (which the code on the vpu reads)
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[18:58] <plugwash> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
[18:58] <bauhaus1919> that site said there is lithium-polenium in the battery
[18:58] <IT_Sean> what battery?
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[18:59] <IT_Sean> the raspi hasn't got a battery, bauhaus1919.
[19:00] <bauhaus1919> thank god
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[19:01] <IT_Sean> (O_o)
[19:01] <ShorTie> just need a good micro-usb cable and 5.0-5.2 volt power adapter
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[19:01] <chris_99> polonium?
[19:02] <ShorTie> 2 amp to Tim Taylor it
[19:02] <bauhaus1919> heh, yeah
[19:02] <bauhaus1919> so how do you determine if your host computer can appropriately power it
[19:03] <IT_Sean> you use a proper power supply.
[19:03] <IT_Sean> A lot of PC usb pors will not be able to.
[19:03] <IT_Sean> *ports
[19:03] <bauhaus1919> how is that determined?
[19:03] <ShorTie> normal usb port are really not rated at enough
[19:04] <ShorTie> usb spec is like only 500ma, so go from there
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[19:04] <IT_Sean> ^ which is why you use a USB power supply, like a phone charger or similar.
[19:05] <IT_Sean> I run my Pi off an iPad charger.
[19:05] <bauhaus1919> can you please explain how it is possible?
[19:05] <IT_Sean> How what is possible, bauhaus1919.
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[19:05] <bauhaus1919> 500ma powers a 5.0 volt power adapter
[19:06] <bauhaus1919> so does the wire matter?
[19:06] <IT_Sean> 500mA is not enough to run a Pi. You need 750mA or better... 1A recommended.
[19:06] <Technicus> Hello, I have "the" Raspberry Pi with "the" Occidentalis operating system installed on it: < https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-raspberry-pi-educational-linux-distro?view=all#occidentalis-v0-dot-2 >, and it but I am having trouble getting the network to connect, wireless and wired. What steps should I follow to find out what the problem is?
[19:06] <ShorTie> cheapy phone charging cables can cause problems cause the wire is so small
[19:08] <ShorTie> but the power supplies normally work ok if at least 700ma or more like 1amp is more normal
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[19:10] <bauhaus1919> so you are telling me that it adjusts?
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[19:11] <gordonDrogon> it pulls what it needs, but you're recommended to use one of at least 700mA
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[19:12] <gordonDrogon> most problems we've seen have been to do with cheap PSUs not being able to deliver what they advertise, so err on the safe side and get one that advertises 1A.
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[19:15] <bauhaus1919> this is the case when there is no wall adapter plugged into rpi?
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[19:19] <IT_Sean> If the wall adapter is not plugged in, the Pi won't do anything. You need to supply power to it for it to function.
[19:20] <bauhaus1919> i was under the assumption that 5 volts from usb will power it
[19:21] <bauhaus1919> without wall power
[19:22] <pksato> usb port from computer?
[19:22] <IT_Sean> you need 5v at at least 750mA, which the USB port on your PC is unlikely to be able to provide.
[19:22] <IT_Sean> You need a USB wall adapter, such as a phone charger.
[19:22] <bauhaus1919> i see, and the adapter just supplies enough
[19:22] <IT_Sean> You need an adapter that supplies 750mA or greater. 1A is recommended.
[19:23] <bauhaus1919> the rpi will consume what it is given?
[19:23] <IT_Sean> Not ALL supplies are sufficient. You need to check the rating.
[19:23] <bauhaus1919> is there too much mA?
[19:23] <IT_Sean> No
[19:23] <IT_Sean> The raspi will "take what it needs"
[19:23] <IT_Sean> the rating on the supply merely states the MAXIMUM that that supply can provide.
[19:23] <Technicus> how do I prompt the system to try and get an ip address?
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[19:23] <bauhaus1919> and that is from the wall, i understand that it is a rectifier, but that only explains so much
[19:24] <IT_Sean> I'm not sure what we haven't explained, man.
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[19:24] <bauhaus1919> oh heh, how is it able to take a range of micro amps? i am afraid i will damage the device
[19:25] <IT_Sean> dude... this is basic electronics knowledge
[19:25] <IT_Sean> the raspi will only draw what it draws
[19:25] <bauhaus1919> AC comes at 60hz 120V i belive
[19:25] <IT_Sean> the rating on the supply is just the maximum that that supply CAN provide.
[19:25] <bauhaus1919> in us
[19:25] <IT_Sean> bauhaus1919: yes, and the power supply converts that to 5v DC, at xxx mA
[19:25] <biberao> i think the sdcard is gone
[19:26] <IT_Sean> As long as you supply 5v, at AT LEAST 750mA, your raspi will be fine, bauhaus1919.
[19:26] <biberao> its taken really amount of time
[19:26] <CharlieBra7o> gordonDrogon: update on the UART issue: I disables getty for tytAMA0 and now it works perfectly. Thank you for the tip!
[19:26] <biberao> and didnt burn yet
[19:26] <biberao> or coyp
[19:26] <ShorTie> a device, any device, will only use the power (amps) that it needs
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[19:27] <pksato> Ohms and Joule.
[19:27] <ShorTie> youe main 120 volts into your house is most likely 200 amp service, and most likely your lucky if you use 50 or 60 amps of of that
[19:28] <ShorTie> your*
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[19:29] <bauhaus1919> 1 mA = 1 A /1000 right?
[19:29] <CharlieBra7o> yes
[19:29] <IT_Sean> yes
[19:30] <bauhaus1919> i am actually confused by ac
[19:30] <CharlieBra7o> why?
[19:30] <IT_Sean> Don't worry about it. the raspi runs on 5V DC, and requires a MINIMUM of 750mA to operate. That's all you need to worry about.
[19:31] <bauhaus1919> the volts delivered by AC varies correct?
[19:31] <bauhaus1919> within time
[19:31] <CharlieBra7o> yes
[19:32] <biberao> my pi is really dead!
[19:32] <CharlieBra7o> thus "alternating" current
[19:32] <CharlieBra7o> because current follows voltage
[19:32] <CharlieBra7o> biberao: didnt u have a broken sd card a few days ago?
[19:32] <CharlieBra7o> or rather broken partition(s)
[19:33] <biberao> CharlieBra7o: i dont recall
[19:33] <CharlieBra7o> :D
[19:33] <bauhaus1919> heh, and what is this impedance?
[19:33] <CharlieBra7o> complex resistance
[19:34] <bauhaus1919> all these details are very important so you can avoid blowing off your hard!
[19:34] <CharlieBra7o> do u have a specific question for all of this or do u just want the basics of electrics? :p
[19:34] <bauhaus1919> hehe hand
[19:35] <CharlieBra7o> bauhaus1919: u german?
[19:35] <bauhaus1919> i love the band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUDjhyrjDes
[19:36] <bauhaus1919> ooh sorry
[19:36] <bauhaus1919> i just want to write led.c
[19:36] <CharlieBra7o> dude ur confusing :|
[19:36] <IT_Sean> yeah.
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[19:37] <biberao> im screwed :|
[19:37] <bauhaus1919> i just want to blink the led, to make sure i have a good board
[19:37] <CharlieBra7o> biberao: please describe what ur problem is exactly
[19:37] <CharlieBra7o> what happens and what doesnt happen?
[19:38] <CharlieBra7o> bauhaus1919: da normal LED shouldnt destroy ur rpi
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[19:38] <biberao> CharlieBra7o: it only says PWR led on
[19:38] <bauhaus1919> haha, i know. i just want to toggle it. it looks like it would be awesom to really control the board
[19:39] <CharlieBra7o> biberao: ok, so check if the partitions are still in tact, if u have a linux machine / live usb lying around
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[19:39] <biberao> ya it all seems fine
[19:39] <biberao> except the pi
[19:39] <CharlieBra7o> bauhaus1919: what do u mean by "control the board"?
[19:39] <bauhaus1919> write the drivers
[19:40] <bauhaus1919> it sounds daunting! but you just start by toggling the led
[19:40] <CharlieBra7o> biberao: run fsck on /boot partition
[19:40] <CharlieBra7o> bauhaus1919: its pretty simple by echo'ing around in /sys/classs/gpio
[19:41] <CharlieBra7o> if u wanna do more serious stuff its probably best to use wiringPi
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[19:41] <bauhaus1919> and i will google it! of course
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[19:42] <CharlieBra7o> bauhaus1919: http://wiringpi.com/ (its by gordonDrogon [sorry for the highlight ^^])
[19:42] <bauhaus1919> nah
[19:42] <biberao> CharlieBra7o: im trying another card
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> CharlieBra7o, anything gpio related highlights :)
[19:43] <CharlieBra7o> lol
[19:43] <CharlieBra7o> u must have a very colorful chat window then :P
[19:44] <CharlieBra7o> biberao: do that, Im pretty sure thatll work fine (assuming u write a fresh image)
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[19:44] <biberao> i did write a fresh image
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[19:44] <biberao> lets wait it takes a lot of time
[19:44] <biberao> :D
[19:44] <CharlieBra7o> yeah :-!
[19:45] <bauhaus1919> someone told me that you gotta see it for yourself
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[19:46] <CharlieBra7o> gordonDrogon: is there any possibility using interrupts (or something) with UART instead of polling serialDataAvail()?
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[19:49] <Syliss> yay for noobs
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[19:49] <CharlieBra7o> why :|
[19:50] <Syliss> wanting to do a easy install of arch for my pi.
[19:50] <Syliss> while im working
[19:50] <Syliss> no dd or anything just copy/paste
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> CharlieBra7o, no - that's a kernel function.
[19:50] <CharlieBra7o> mh
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> CharlieBra7o, however you might want to look at using posix threads - you can then start a thread that waits on a character.
[19:51] <CharlieBra7o> or id have to use an extra gpio with the ISR from wiringpi..?
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> if your system has an extra output to signal the interrupt, but it's not really the linux/unix way
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[19:54] <CharlieBra7o> but that would still use up loads of cpu power for "nothing", wouldnt it?
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[19:55] <bauhaus1919> so is broadcom the manufacturer of the chip
[19:55] <bauhaus1919> of raspberry pi a
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[19:57] <CharlieBra7o> gordonDrogon: the ISR method would REALLY sleep (0% load), or did I misunderstand the explanation on ur website?
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[20:02] <rosapoP> new version of the OS images dont work on some of my SDcards is that a known problem?
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[20:02] <CharlieBra7o> Syliss: so u wanna know alternatives to dd or what exactly..?
[20:03] <CharlieBra7o> rosapoP: do older versions work on the 'problematic' sdcards?
[20:04] <rosapoP> yes
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[20:05] <ShorTie> sounds like a bad/flakey write of the image
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[20:06] <ShorTie> cause an old image is only a apt-get update/upgrade from a new image
[20:07] <CharlieBra7o> I agree with ShorTie
[20:07] <gordonDrogon> CharlieBra7o, the ISR would 0% sleep, but you'll need another signal from the remote device into the Pi.
[20:07] <gordonDrogon> CharlieBra7o, but - all you need to do is learn a bit more about posix threads - see the wiringPiISR code :)
[20:08] <CharlieBra7o> gordonDrogon: that wouldnt be an issue, Ive got about 100 gpios on the other device left to spare :D
[20:08] <rosapoP> images from sep-oct 2013 and forward gives black screen whith those cards
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[20:08] <gordonDrogon> CharlieBra7o, well it should work..
[20:08] <rosapoP> boot partition gets slightly corrupted
[20:08] <CharlieBra7o> gordonDrogon: for the ISR method? or the polling alternative...
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[20:09] <CharlieBra7o> my only goal is to keep down the cpu load since I might need the processing power for other things
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[20:13] <gics> hello, can someone more electronics minded than me give me some suggestion on this circuit? --> https://github.com/aboudou/picheckvoltage/blob/master/imgs/schematic.png
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[20:13] <gics> i have not the BCU81 transistor listed in that circuit
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[20:13] <gics> can i use an alternative one? i have some other in my box
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[20:16] <Syliss> no i know how, im just being lazy
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[20:17] <biberao> the pi works!!
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[20:19] <gordonDrogon> CharlieBra7o, either - but I never suggested polling - if you create a thread, then you can simply wait that thread on a character read from the serial port.
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[20:21] <CharlieBra7o> I understand what you mean, yes. But wouldnt the thread then need to do the polling - resulting in the same amoung of CPU load..?
[20:22] <biberao> ok
[20:22] <biberao> the act led keeps blinking
[20:23] <biberao> what could that be?
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[20:23] <gordonDrogon> CharlieBra7o, no - the thread stalls reading from the serial port - just get it to call serialGetchar (fd);
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> then it will stall until a character is ready (actually my implementation has a 10 second timeout, so loop, while (serialGetchar (fd) == -1) ;
[20:24] <CharlieBra7o> aah ok
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[20:24] <gordonDrogon> do read up on threads though.
[20:24] <CharlieBra7o> I recall reading that, yes
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> there are some helpers in wiringPi, but you might need to look at what's underneath.
[20:25] <biberao> please?
[20:25] <CharlieBra7o> biberao: blinking very lightly or brightly? what frequency?
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> biberao, it blinks when it accesses the SD card
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> biberao, it's the same as the HD activity LED on a "PC".
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[20:26] <biberao> no
[20:26] <biberao> like
[20:26] <biberao> it blinks and stops
[20:26] <biberao> again and stops
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> at power on?
[20:27] <biberao> at power on it gets a red led
[20:27] <gordonDrogon> or when its running normally?
[20:27] <biberao> then it stats blinking a yellow color
[20:27] <biberao> ive seen some greenish or something
[20:27] <biberao> before but thats not happening
[20:27] <gordonDrogon> there are 2 LEDs . the Red one is power - nothing more. the Green one is SD card activity, or boot-time error.
[20:27] <biberao> its the one that says act
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> (there are 3 more for the Ethernet though, but Red power, Green ACT then 3 more Ethernet ones)
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> so at power-on time, it blinks and the Pi doesn't boot. Is that right?
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[20:28] <biberao> yes
[20:28] <biberao> it blinks and stops and blinks and stops
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[20:28] <biberao> when theres activity its almost blinking fast orsome static
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Green_LED_blinks_in_a_specific_pattern
[20:29] <gordonDrogon> if it's blinking after the Pi has booted, then it's fine.
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[20:29] <gordonDrogon> if the Pi doesn't boot, then see that link above.
[20:29] <biberao> but it was working 2 days ago
[20:29] <biberao> :|
[20:29] <biberao> let me try another distro
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[20:30] <gordonDrogon> or another SD card
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[20:31] <duality> shiftplusone: hi :) i am trying to get the bootloader to work. uh can't get it to work maybe you can help me out ?
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[20:32] <biberao> gordonDrogon: ive tried 3
[20:32] <biberao> maybe the img borke dit
[20:32] <biberao> :D
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[20:34] <gordonDrogon> backup the data and re-flash - or just fix the /boot parition if you can.
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[20:44] <bauhaus1919> say i want to add a motor to the raspberry pi. how will i avoid damaging the board?
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[20:47] <bauhaus1919> say i want to add a motor to the raspberry pi. how will i avoid damaging the board?
[20:48] <CharlieBra7o> bauhaus1919: u cant drive a motor with a rpi alone. not enough power + other things, depending on that kind of motor
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[20:50] <IT_Sean> you will need a motor controller, to allow you to have a seperate power supply for the motor, and to provide isolation to the raspi's GPIO.
[20:51] <IT_Sean> Also, no need to post the same line twice in a row... we all saw it the first time.
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[21:16] <CharlieBra7o> gordonDrogon: I 'slightly' modified your isr.c example: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/19ab4558d97de88abce2 - Why wouldnt it work that way?
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[21:26] <bauhaus1919> isr.c : )
[21:26] <bauhaus1919> now were talking
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[21:34] <bauhaus1919> wiringpi? i think there is a better way
[21:34] <bauhaus1919> just think how powerful the board is, and all the junk linux has
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[21:36] <Squarepy> bauhaus1919, what are you proposing
[21:36] <bauhaus1919> that your entry point is right after the boot
[21:36] <bauhaus1919> and seeing what you can do from there
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[21:37] <Squarepy> isn't that more the arduino approach?
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[21:40] <bauhaus1919> i have not used an arduino
[21:40] <bauhaus1919> its the linux approach
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[21:41] <bauhaus1919> its the os approach, i mean you can make assembly code
[21:42] <bauhaus1919> after its "boot", you get the first jump
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[21:44] <bauhaus1919> unless you have inspected every line in the kernel then you can not be sure
[21:45] <bauhaus1919> ive been using linux for a year and they obviously put backdoors in it, and i say that cause i think raspberry pi has got potential
[21:45] <Squarepy> that last line is a bit hard to understand
[21:46] <bauhaus1919> if they put out some kind of specification you can still beat em
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[21:48] <bauhaus1919> but you must do it in assembly language
[21:50] <IT_Sean> What the heck are you talking about?
[21:50] <Squarepy> psychosis style
[21:51] <bauhaus1919> its like back orifice over wifi
[21:53] <Squarepy> well I am lost for some time here, bauhaus1919 could say it up loud for yourself before you type :)
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[21:55] <bauhaus1919> no ones booted me yet and that weird
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[22:03] <aural> I downloaded the offline and network install for NOOBS 1.3.7 from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ and am following the INSTALLATION-README.txt steps for linux environment.
[22:04] <aural> I do not have gparted installed on a computer that has an sd card reader. Is it possible I can format the sd card using fdisk? If so, which partition type should I use in place of FAT? W95 FAT32 (b)? W95 FAT 32 (LBA) (c)? W95 FAT16 (LBA) (e)? other?
[22:05] <Squarepy> aural, what os?
[22:05] <aural> Squarepy: gentoo linux
[22:05] <CharlieBra7o> bauhaus1919 might be drunk :|
[22:05] <ShorTie> no need to do anything to the sdcard if your writing an image
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[22:05] <ShorTie> image will just do it it's way
[22:06] <Squarepy> is unetbootin supported?
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[22:23] <CharlieBra7o> gordonDrogon: any ideas on the code? :\ >> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/19ab4558d97de88abce2
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[22:23] <biberao2> hi
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[22:25] <biberao2> my sdcard reader is broken
[22:25] <biberao2> ideas?
[22:25] <CharlieBra7o> buy a new one :|
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[22:25] <ppq> the one on your pi?
[22:26] <Encrypt> biberao2, You got the solution? \o/
[22:26] <CharlieBra7o> biberao2: you multiply quickly :|
[22:26] <biberao2> CharlieBra7o: buy a new what
[22:26] <biberao2> cardreader
[22:26] <biberao2> or pi?
[22:26] <biberao2> ppq: yes
[22:26] <Encrypt> Actually, I thought this could be the problem earlier...
[22:26] <biberao2> i saw some of the card reader
[22:26] <biberao2> on the card
[22:26] <biberao2> today
[22:26] <biberao2> :|
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[22:26] <Encrypt> :((
[22:26] <Encrypt> Do you have a photograph?
[22:26] <CharlieBra7o> Id be happy to know how to fix a card reader
[22:27] <ppq> biberao, solder a sd -> microsd adapter on your pi, they are very cheap. so you can still change the card
[22:27] <CharlieBra7o> got a broken one myself - not on the rpi tho
[22:27] <biberao2> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Repair-a-Broken-Raspberry-Pi-SD-Card-Slot/all/?lang=pt
[22:27] <biberao2> i dont know :|
[22:27] <biberao2> ppq: which one?
[22:27] <CharlieBra7o> lol THATS what you mean by broken? :|
[22:29] <biberao2> ?
[22:29] <Encrypt> I discovered something :O
[22:29] <Encrypt> The slot is a complete CMS slot
[22:29] <Encrypt> And not through hole
[22:30] <Encrypt> That's why it might easily break
[22:30] <Encrypt> BTW, a great website to know hos the Pi is made: http://raspmap.everpi.net/
[22:30] <biberao2> so
[22:30] <ShorTie> CharlieBra7o, that code, you can just run a grep to see if/what is different
[22:30] <biberao2> how do i fix it?
[22:31] <CharlieBra7o> ShorTie: I modified it myself - the question is why the ISRs dont seem to trigger
[22:32] <ShorTie> oh, no help there
[22:33] <CharlieBra7o> ok nvm, I found the problem
[22:34] <CharlieBra7o> have to add fflush(stdout); after the printf()
[22:34] <CharlieBra7o> gotta look up WHY thats necessary tho. but g2g now :| cya guys
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[22:35] <Technicus> Hello, how can I stream the Raspberry Pi camera to Live Stream or Youtube?
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[22:37] <l_r> Technicus, does youtube accept streams?
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[22:37] <Technicus> l_r: < http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/Editorial/Featured-Articles/How-to-Stream-Live-Video-With-YouTube-94030.aspx >
[22:39] <l_r> Technicus, but do applications exist?
[22:40] <Technicus> l_r: I am trying to learn: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--3I2vcC1Ps#t=19 >.
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[22:43] <l_r> Technicus, well, it's not difficult
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[22:43] <l_r> from the video
[22:43] <l_r> Technicus, what's the prob
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[22:44] <Technicus> l_r: I have never done this before, and am trying to stream the camera module connected to the Raspberry Pi.
[22:45] <l_r> Technicus, it will be slow to open the browser from the raspberry
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[22:46] <pksato> https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/live/
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[22:49] <Technicus> Do you think that there may be other services that would be better suited like Google Hangouts or Live Stream, or something else?
[22:49] <ms7> Hello, I have an idea for a RPi project, but would like to see if I am thinking about this the right way. I would like to be able to power it 24/7, ideally with solar power, to be able to control LED lighting and play back WAV files connected to speakers, as well as SSH into it by creating an ad-hoc access point to control the Pi remotely. The Pi will be housed in a case but will be floating on water on top of a platform, so I have
[22:49] <ms7> to take into account preventing electronics from coming into contact with any water (water-proof solar panels?). For powering it 24/7, would this be the correct solution? http://pi.gate.ac.uk/pages/mopi.html Would anyone know of alternatives in case I cant get access to the pre-order list? Thanks very much if anyone can help.
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[22:51] <SpeedEvil> ms7: Where are you in the world
[22:51] <ms7> Boston
[22:51] <SpeedEvil> As an example, I did a calculation to work out the amount of solar panel and battery I need to run a pi 24*7.
[22:51] <SpeedEvil> I came out to 250W, with a 100Ah 12V battery.
[22:51] <ShorTie> solar panels can only power it during the day, if then
[22:52] <SpeedEvil> This will - probably - work 24*7*51.?
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[22:53] <ms7> all right, I suppose I should mention it won't be running all year. Most likely 24/7 for 4-6 months tops. Then it would be packed and possibly used in another location.
[22:53] <SpeedEvil> In summer?
[22:53] <ms7> Yes, summer to mid fall
[22:53] <SpeedEvil> That makes it considerably better
[22:54] <ms7> would solar panels even be necessary? Could I achieve that amount of uptime with just batteries? Maybe stretching the charges significantly so I only would have to replace batteires a handful of times throughout those 4-6 months?
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[22:54] <Technicus> l_r: Here is a ustream example: < http://bythegram.ca/2014/01/blog/ustream-raspberry-pi/ >.
[22:55] <SpeedEvil> ms7: Sure.
[22:55] <SpeedEvil> ms7: But...
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[22:55] <SpeedEvil> ms7: What is the power of the lights and how often will they be on?
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[22:56] <ms7> I have to talk to the person who will be working with the lighting, I don't have any experience with that unfortunately. The lights will be on at night.
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> ms7: A 100Ah/12V battery (which is at the limit of comfortable lifting and will cost about $150) will run a 5W load for a little more than a week
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[22:56] <ShorTie> you could use a deep cycle marine battery
[22:57] <SpeedEvil> yes - that's what the above is
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[22:57] <ms7> all right, writing this down :)
[22:58] <SpeedEvil> Also - would the solar panel be flat, or properly tilted?
[22:58] <ShorTie> i don't know how long it will last, but i just hooked a pi up to a old lawn mower battery
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[22:58] <ShorTie> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1skh8p2pecyhxd4/sensors%20002.jpg
[22:58] <ms7> Titled at an angle, but since the platform will be on water, I can't orient it all the time towards the sun.
[22:58] <ms7> unless I just place solar panels in two directions..
[22:58] <SpeedEvil> You mean it's tilted at a fixed angle?
[22:59] <SpeedEvil> Or do you mean it may float around
[22:59] <ms7> tilted at a fixed angle, think of solar panels on a house roof like ^
[22:59] <SpeedEvil> k
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[23:01] <SpeedEvil> http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data/nsrdb/1961-1990/redbook/atlas/ is relevant. Select October, 'flat plate tilted south at latitude' 'view the map'
[23:01] <ms7> I feel using solar panels might be a simpler and more cost-effective solution, as opposed to replacing a battery every week for several months.
[23:01] <biberao2> im screwed
[23:01] <SpeedEvil> This says 4kWh/m^2/day is probably reasonable.
[23:02] <ms7> interesting..
[23:02] <SpeedEvil> Now, solar panels are about 15% efficient, battery charge efficiency and other facors may knock that down to 10%ish
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[23:02] <SpeedEvil> that's 400Wh/m^2/day
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[23:02] <SpeedEvil> So, a meter square panel (150W or so) can on average provide about 15W.
[23:02] <SpeedEvil> 24*7
[23:03] <SpeedEvil> Are the lights required during the day?
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[23:04] <ms7> I'm not sure yet if it's worth it. It might not be very visibile during the day and not create as much of an impact. So I feel only during the night is best.
[23:04] <ms7> but I still need to power the Pi 24/7 for driving audio
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[23:09] <ms7> I just realized I have to power an amplifier as well..
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[23:10] <ShorTie> don't forget the hair dryer
[23:10] <ms7> noted
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[23:11] <duality> does anyone know if there is a handy .inc for assembly that has pre existing defines for the raspberry pi processor
[23:12] <duality> ?
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[23:13] <ms7> SpeedEvil: Thank you for your suggestions, I'll keep looking into this. That and waterproofing the whole thing...
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[23:14] <SpeedEvil> ms7: If it's not making sound all the time, it's quite possible the audio amp may be a small fraction of the total.
[23:14] <SpeedEvil> But first and most important step is to get a hard figure for LED and other power.
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[23:14] <SpeedEvil> 16W of LEDs will make a truly underwhelming display in the day.
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[23:15] <ms7> Maybe having it so that it plays sound at regular intervals. So every 20 minutes, a WAV file will loop for 15 minutes. Then stop for 20, and so forth.
[23:15] <ms7> I'll look into that, no experience with LEDs, a friend of mine will be handling that part.
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[23:18] <SpeedEvil> you need to work that out first - as it's going to set the cost of the project. A 150W solar panel, battery managment and battery may run you $300. It's easy to run a LED display ten times that size though - and then you end up at $3000, and something considerably larger and heavier
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[23:19] <ms7> I understand
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[23:21] <ms7> Looking into this MoPi to see if it's worth using for this particular project. Not sure if it's overkill for what I'm trying to do. http://pi.gate.ac.uk/pages/mopi.html
[23:22] <SpeedEvil> How much is it?
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[23:23] <ms7> There are different options, but I have no idea what they are :/ https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hamishcunningham/mopi-mobile-and-24-7-power-for-the-raspberry-pi
[23:24] <ms7> I'm not sure if those are the final prices.
[23:24] <ShorTie> you could water proof the pi by putting it into a seqcurity camera case
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[23:24] <Technicus> How do I fix my keyboard maping, @ symbol is a "
[23:24] <ShorTie> then throw in a camera module and you could stream it all
[23:24] <ms7> ShorTie: Thanks, I had thought about something like that :) I'll look into it.
[23:25] * SpeedEvil passes Technicus some tippex and a biro.
[23:25] <SpeedEvil> ms7: At 24 quid ($35ish) that is not unreasonbable
[23:25] <duality> shiftplusone: Got it working and i haz got a blinking led working in assembly :D
[23:26] <SpeedEvil> ms7: you will need an external charger to charge your batteries
[23:26] <ppq> Technicus, depends. linux and x? then setxkbmap
[23:26] <ms7> I figured the same, just have to dig into the docs to figure out what extras I need after buying it.
[23:27] <ms7> There is a bundle that includes rechargeable batteries and a charger for 59 pounds. Add the solar panels and...?
[23:27] <SpeedEvil> you don't want that one
[23:27] <SpeedEvil> the batteries are uselessly small for your purposes
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[23:28] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-100AH-Deep-Cycle-Battery-LUCAS-LX27MF-Leisure-Caravan-Marine-Boat-500-Cycles-/321067992997?pt=UK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item4ac124c7a5 - you're looking for something more like
[23:30] <biberao> SpeedEvil: my sdcard reader on the pi broke
[23:30] <ms7> right
[23:30] <ms7> Is it obvious I'm a noob? :)
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[23:42] <Technicus> For the line
[23:42] <biberao> SpeedEvil: any ideas'
[23:42] <Technicus> How do I access the camera module?
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[23:42] <Technicus> I am following the tutorial: < http://bythegram.ca/2014/01/blog/ustream-raspberry-pi/ >.
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[23:43] <SpeedEvil> biberao: how did you kill it?
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[23:44] <biberao> SpeedEvil: i dont know
[23:44] <Technicus> In this line: `avconv -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video0 -pix_fmt yuv420p -f flv rtmp://****YOUR RTMP STREAM URL/STREAM KEY****` it refers to the camera as: '/dev/video0', but apparently that is not the camera module. How can I find it?
[23:44] <biberao> when i turned on today didnt work
[23:44] <biberao> so i have to hold the card there
[23:44] <SpeedEvil> Technicus: dol you havea webcam plugged in?
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[23:45] <Technicus> SpeedEvil: I have the Raspberry Pi camera module connected.
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[23:46] <SpeedEvil> Otehr than that
[23:47] <Technicus> Only the pi camera module.
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[23:47] <biberao> SpeedEvil: ideas?
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[23:53] <SpeedEvil> biberao: Find out what's bent. Unbend it or rebend it or stick a book on top of it and call it good
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[23:59] <biberao> SpeedEvil: its not bent
[23:59] <biberao> the card doesnt hold in place

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