#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-06-13

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[0:00] <ltedcoai> New York
[0:01] <ltedcoai> I don't have any antennas up right now though. I lost a lot in the winter due to ice and snow.
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[0:01] <ltedcoai> I used to live in Arizona and I could hear everyone except ZL's
[0:03] <Davespice> M6DNT here, although I'm only ever on 70cms
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[0:04] <Davespice> I would love to get some HF gear, just so expensive
[0:04] <ltedcoai> Hey you can do some modulation off the GPIO pins
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[0:07] <atouk> just remember, if you area a licensed ham and want to use the pi to generate RF, you are bound by the interference rules and regulations. The harmonics off it will be horrendous without filtering
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[0:25] <rikkib> I run a Kenwood TS 2000, Heathkit SB1000 and TH5DX... No problem working the world when the bands are open.
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[0:26] <rikkib> 10m has been fun for the last couple of years.
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[0:30] <rikkib> Have to go pick up my 9m mast from the engineers today aafter having it welded back together... Had to cut it to transport it from its last location.
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[1:26] <[Saint]> Morning piople.
[1:27] <ShorTie> Good Morning
[1:27] <[Saint]> One might be tempted to say good afternoon, or good day, instead - but technically, I still have 2 minutes to spare. ;)
[1:28] <[Saint]> ...in my locale, at least.
[1:28] <ShorTie> Ender's Game is a good movie
[1:28] * [Saint] plugs his ears and repeats "lalalala - I can't hear you" over and over again.
[1:28] <ShorTie> ah, it's always Good Morning the first time i see someone for the day
[1:29] <[Saint]> (I'm planning on seeing it with Ms. [Saint] in the coming week)
[1:29] <ShorTie> ok, that is all i will say then
[1:29] <[Saint]> Thanks. :)
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[1:35] <rikkib> Wonder where my 9m tower will fit best and be most useful... 9m lattice tower plus a 6m pipe at the top makes 15 odd meters.
[1:36] <rikkib> $75 NZD to have to welded back together...
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[1:37] <rikkib> $150 for the tower and $50 to move it from Tauranga to here (100km).
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[1:58] <ltedcoai> is there a gpio group so I don't have to sudo to access the gpio pins?
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[2:01] <shiftplusone> You're accessing them using the sysfs interface?
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[2:27] <home> hey
[2:27] <home> what's the latest raspberry pi kernel?
[2:27] <home> lastest version*
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[2:33] <home> help me someone :D
[2:33] <home> I love you guys <3
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[2:35] <tz> seems as if there's a 3.15.y branch on github, as to how functional it is I dunno
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[2:38] <home> tz: how can I get one?
[2:38] <home> I need the latest kernel to test my wii u pro controller
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[2:42] <rikkib> Linux rpi4 3.12.21+ #688 PREEMPT Wed Jun 4 20:47:24 BST 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[2:43] <rikkib> That is the kernel installed by rpi-update yesterday
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[2:43] <rikkib> Raspbian is 3.10.25
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[3:03] <home> hey guys
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[3:04] <home> anyone done anything with OpenGL on raspberry pi
[3:04] <home> any cool applications?
[3:04] <home> like a digital watch display
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[3:06] <ltedcoai> How come I only have 437MB ram total?
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[3:09] <home> ltedcoai: how are you reading that?
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[3:09] <ltedcoai> with htop
[3:09] <ltedcoai> Mem 80/437MB
[3:09] <home> type free -html
[3:10] <home> and look at -/+ buffers/cache
[3:10] <rikkib> some memory is allocate to the video core
[3:10] <ltedcoai> Total 537M
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[3:17] <justanotheruser> I just copied the wheezy image over using "sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/image of=/dev/sdc" and I'm trying to screen in, but it doesn't show anything for "sudo screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200". Any tips?
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[3:20] <justanotheruser> rapsbian wheezy that is
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[3:24] <shiftplusone> justanotheruser, does the ACT LED do anything when you power up the pi?
[3:24] <shiftplusone> (do you know that it's actually booting?)
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[3:25] <home> /join #smc
[3:25] <shiftplusone> never
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[3:25] <rikkib> You scared him
[3:25] <shiftplusone> good >=/
[3:26] <rikkib> dd does not say anything while it is running
[3:26] <shiftplusone> though I just looked up the channel and it's quite cool, actually.
[3:26] <rikkib> share
[3:26] <justanotheruser> shiftplusone: yes, one second, I'm trying something else
[3:26] <shiftplusone> rikkib, I think he meant that he has written the image and is actually booting the pi and trying to get to it through serial
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[3:27] <shiftplusone> rikkib, the channel is for a blender speed modelling challenge (in this case, a rabbit in 45 minutes... http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?339732-SSC-Rabbit-45-Minutes)
[3:27] <rikkib> Ahhh
[3:28] <rikkib> To connect to rpi serial terminal one needs to hook a usb to serial adapter to the rpi serial port
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[3:29] <shiftplusone> re-read his question. I think he got that far.
[3:30] <shiftplusone> it's just a matter of figuring out why it's not working
[3:30] <shiftplusone> either the pi is not booting, the adapter is not connected properly or it the pi's serial port is messed up. All very easy to check.
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[3:32] * rikkib scratches his head...
[3:34] <rikkib> Never had a problem setting up serial... I have a stm32v, gps and have had Pololu UBS01B hooked to rpi.
[3:35] <shiftplusone> the only problem I've had were mis-labled pins on an adapter
[3:35] <shiftplusone> or rather labled using a different convention
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[3:35] <rikkib> One has to be a bit careful
[3:36] <justanotheruser> shiftplusone: @debian:~$ screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
[3:36] <justanotheruser> [screen is terminating]
[3:36] <justanotheruser> yes, a red light is lighting up
[3:36] <justanotheruser> I have usb to serial connection
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[3:37] <rikkib> try minicom
[3:38] <justanotheruser> I used screen earlier, but now I'm using a fresh install on the same device and it isn't working
[3:38] <rikkib> as root minicom -s
[3:38] <shiftplusone> red light doesn't matter
[3:38] <shiftplusone> what's happening with the ACT light
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[3:40] <justanotheruser> no ACT light
[3:40] <justanotheruser> did I install it wrong?
[3:40] <justanotheruser> I thought dd took care of setting up the fs
[3:40] <shiftplusone> it does
[3:40] <shiftplusone> if the ACT light isn't flashing when you power up the pi it means it can't find the firmware on the card
[3:41] <shiftplusone> either because it can't read the card at all
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[3:41] <rikkib> Do you have a different brand sd card handy?
[3:41] <shiftplusone> or because the firmware just isn't there.
[3:41] <shiftplusone> Most likely the first option
[3:41] <shiftplusone> and that happens when the contact with the card is bad
[3:41] <justanotheruser> shiftplusone: well I only compied the image
[3:41] <justanotheruser> shiftplusone: you think my card is bad? All I did was remove the old OS and copied a new OS onto it
[3:42] <rikkib> Cards that do not boot only show a single very fast flash of act led
[3:42] <shiftplusone> you can check
[3:42] <shiftplusone> plug the card into your computer and check what's on the first partition
[3:42] <shiftplusone> if it's a fat32 partition and bootcode.bin is there, the problem is with the card
[3:43] <justanotheruser> oh...
[3:43] <justanotheruser> I think I made it fat16...
[3:43] <rikkib> I thin he has a linux box ?????
[3:43] <shiftplusone> if you dd, it doesn't matter, it will overwrite your partition table anyway
[3:43] <rikkib> ahhh
[3:43] <justanotheruser> rikkib: that's a safe assumption based on the commands I've been making
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[3:43] <shiftplusone> try pushing the card onto the board with your thumb as you power it up and pay attention to the lights. Sometimes that's enough to confirm that it's a poor contact issue.
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[3:44] <shiftplusone> Well, I think that's about all the relevant information. Best of luck
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[3:44] <rikkib> I just copy partition contents to make cards, once I make the first one. I have 7 rpi here
[3:46] <justanotheruser> shiftplusone: thanks
[3:46] <justanotheruser> I think I did it wrong the first time
[3:46] <justanotheruser> sudo dd bs=4M if=/home/andrew/Downloads/2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/mmcblk0p1 this time
[3:46] <rikkib> back to my new radio mast.
[3:47] <justanotheruser> /dev/sdc too less than a second
[3:47] <justanotheruser> but this is actually taking time
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[3:47] <shiftplusone> wha
[3:47] <shiftplusone> NOOOO
[3:47] <shiftplusone> of=/dev/mmcblk0p1!?
[3:48] <shiftplusone> of=/dev/mmcblk0 , no p1
[3:48] <justanotheruser> ok
[3:48] <justanotheruser> toy make it sound like it's a disaster
[3:49] <shiftplusone> eh?
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[3:49] <shiftplusone> toy=you?
[3:49] <tz> ....THAT sounds like a disaster
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[3:52] <justanotherusr> TIL: don't pkill -f dd
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[3:55] <oldtopman> uhhh
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[4:06] <justanotherusr> shiftplusone: Was that you that was helping me?
[4:06] <shiftplusone> well, trying
[4:06] <justanotherusr> shiftplusone: it lives!
[4:07] <justanotherusr> ty
[4:07] <shiftplusone> hurray
[4:07] <shiftplusone> what was the problem?
[4:07] <justanotherusr> I pkill -f'd dd, so I can't remember the other person who was helping me, but thanks to you too
[4:07] <justanotherusr> shiftplusone: I did dd if=img of=/dev/sdc
[4:07] <shiftplusone> that'll do it
[4:08] <justanotherusr> but it was supposed to be mmsomething
[4:08] <justanotherusr> and i did mmsomethingp1 and you said that was wrong, so I tried ^C, but that didn't stop it, so I pkill -f'd dd :)
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[4:08] <shiftplusone> ah
[4:08] <justanotherusr> anyways, now I've got to setup my sys. ty again
[4:08] <shiftplusone> np, have fun
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[4:56] <Karuption> so, im having a bit of trouble with my pi after it being stored for a little while
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[4:56] <ltedcoai> Like what?
[4:56] <Karuption> it wont go into boot (note i didn't try it with what was running on it before installing a new os
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[4:57] <Karuption> the power light is solid red and the OK light is a dim green both are steady
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[5:01] <Karuption> im using my phone brick (2A) and then i just tried a powered usb hub and same thing
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[5:14] <Karuption> heh i got it
[5:15] <Karuption> is there any way to make the pins on the sd higher up without voiding?
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[5:17] <timekeeper> why?
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[5:19] <Karuption> i plugged it in pushing the pins from the sd card down and it started flashing
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[5:23] <timekeeper> and didnt work?
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[5:36] <Karuption> the OK light flashed a ton just got my tv hooked up for a try
[5:37] <timekeeper> could be the sd card
[5:37] <timekeeper> they're finicky
[5:37] <timekeeper> sometimes you just gotta reformat and reimage
[5:37] <timekeeper> or try a diff one
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[5:40] <Karuption> i think something got set on the sd card when i was storing it and bent the mount
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[5:47] <timekeeper> eep
[5:47] <timekeeper> you could rig some sort of card form with metal contacts extending outt hing
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[6:58] <ltedcoai> Wow
[6:58] <ltedcoai> I just made like a 4000 mile contact with the GPIO pins on the raspberry pi
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[7:02] <rikkib> CW?
[7:03] <ltedcoai> wspr
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[7:04] <rikkib> so gpio puts out the tones?
[7:06] <ltedcoai> yes
[7:06] <ltedcoai> https://github.com/JamesP6000/WsprryPi
[7:06] <ltedcoai> 10mW
[7:06] <rikkib> wow
[7:07] <rikkib> why am I running 600W :)
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[7:08] <ltedcoai> lol
[7:08] <ltedcoai> talk over everyone?
[7:08] <ltedcoai> on 75m
[7:09] <Karuption> seems like my sd reader is fucked
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[7:09] <Karuption> the light will blink but no video output
[7:10] <Karuption> holding it JUST right brings it up for maybe a second max
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[7:11] <Triffid_Hunter> Karuption: physical stress will do that.. if you're extremely careful you might be able to get a sowing pin or similar in there and bend the contacts back into position
[7:11] <Triffid_Hunter> either that or find someone local who's set up for SMD rework and put a new SD socket
[7:12] <Karuption> the local hackerspace can do rework but that seems like a lot of fucking effort plus the space is quite a drive
[7:13] <Karuption> ill try doing that sowing pin thing if i can see any pins out of place or i might just get a new one
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[7:38] <bleem313> Hello all
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[10:13] <gordonDrogon> Karuption, do be aware that we're trying to keep this family friendly...
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[10:28] <satdav> Hello is firefox available for the pi yet
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[10:32] <rosapoP> satdav: the pi is too slow and not enough memory for firefox
[10:32] <gordonDrogon> there is a version of the chromium browser though.
[10:33] <gordonDrogon> which is slow, but usable.
[10:33] <satdav> Whoa what browser do you recommended
[10:33] <rosapoP> webbrowsering on the pi makes no sense
[10:34] <rosapoP> midori is what is officially recommended
[10:34] <gordonDrogon> midori is fine - but it won't render my own site correctly )-:
[10:34] <satdav> Some people is saying icewheasel
[10:34] <gordonDrogon> it doesn't render the foundations site, but I know they are working on that.
[10:34] <gordonDrogon> iceweasel is Debians port of firefox.
[10:36] <rosapoP> webbrowsering on the pi i recommend links or lynx
[10:36] <gordonDrogon> text only :)
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[10:36] <rosapoP> yup
[10:36] <satdav> Oh no graphic one
[10:36] <rosapoP> but it works
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[10:37] <satdav> What os do you recommended
[10:37] <rosapoP> i use one of my pis as a server and one as a irc terminal
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[10:37] <rosapoP> raspbian
[10:38] <gordonDrogon> the OS choice won't affect the browser performance. the truth is, a modern browser is so large and bloated it really does need something with more memory and cpu than the Pi has.
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[10:38] <gordonDrogon> although I think Chromium is usable, but only if you close most other things down.
[10:39] <satdav> Does Raspbian not port Firefox as its built on Debian
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> and like 99.9999% of the 3 million Pi's out there, I run Raspbian.
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> satdav, there is a port of iceweasel.
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea if it works, but its there.
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[10:40] <satdav> What irc Client do you recommended
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[10:41] <rosapoP> weechat or irssi
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[10:41] <gordonDrogon> I use xchat, but I don't use a Pi as my day to day workstation - I have an x86 PC for that. (which also runs Debian Wheezy)
[10:42] <satdav> I am use to windows as will I get use to the pi os
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> ok
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> you just need some patience.
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[10:42] <cheesenbiscuits> Hi Everybody
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> 700Mhzm one core, 512MB or RAM vs. 3Ghz, multi-core, 4GB of RAM ..
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[10:43] <gordonDrogon> Pi vs. typical desktop...
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[10:43] <gordonDrogon> brb.
[10:44] <cheesenbiscuits> I have a seedbox that I use to download torrents, I'd like to use my raspberry pi to automatically log into my seedbox - via ssh or sftp and sync any new files to my raspberry pi for viewing later. can anybody recommend a good way to do this? thanks!
[10:44] <satdav> Hi cheesebiscuites
[10:44] <satdav> I have the v2 of the pi
[10:44] <cheesenbiscuits> Hi satdav
[10:45] <satdav> Does anyone moderate the forums in here
[10:46] <satdav> Can I upgrade ram or memory on the pi
[10:46] <ShorTie> nop
[10:47] <Triffid_Hunter> cheesenbiscuits: cron
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[10:56] <gordonDrogon> satdav, this isn't a forum, it's IRC - and it's not 'moderated' as such, but there are a set of rules/guidelines and a few people who try to make sense of it all.
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> satdav, the forums on raspberrypi.org are moderated.
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> satdav, with regard to the ram upgrade - sorry, no. it's fixed at 512MB.
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[10:57] <satdav> Ok it's good you offer Irc support
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[10:59] <Mr_Sheesh> The earlier RaspPi model B's had half the RAM of the current delivery models though (Just a side note)
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> yes - the first few batches - the Rev 1. The current Rev 2 has 512. It shouldn't be possible to buy a Rev 1 new now though.
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> I can't remember if the Model A has 256 or 512MB though
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[11:02] <satdav> How do I know what version i have
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> if it has 2 "mounting" holes, then it's a Rev 2.
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[11:06] <satdav> ,↔ ↔ ,i. L?? ,
[11:06] <gordonDrogon> huh?
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[11:08] <gordonDrogon> See this photo: http://unicorn.drogon.net/redPi.jpg if your Pi has the 2 gold-plated holes like that one has, then it's a model B, Rev 2
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> (although yours will likely be green - that's a Red chinese one)
[11:09] <satdav> Raspberry pi model B
[11:09] <gordonDrogon> there were early model Bs with 256MB of RAM. it's a confusing thing until you get the hang on it...
[11:10] <gordonDrogon> but if you bought it this year it's almost certianly a rev 2 board with 512MB.
[11:10] <satdav> Are the holes the bottem
[11:10] <gordonDrogon> the holes go all the way through.
[11:10] * rosapoP has a 256MB model B running as her web/irc server
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[11:11] <satdav> Yes got 2
[11:12] <satdav> Rosapop what os as your server
[11:12] <rosapoP> raspbian
[11:13] <satdav> Oj
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[11:13] <rosapoP> i rarely use GUI things on my rpi s
[11:14] <satdav> Ok will the asda budget keyboard and mouse work on the pi
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[11:15] <satdav> Also do they come with built in wii fi the raspberry pi
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[11:15] <gordonDrogon> no.
[11:15] <gordonDrogon> they come with virtually nothing. you need to buy SD card, keyboard/mouse, etc.
[11:15] <rosapoP> should work aslong as they are not massivly pwer hungry. no built in wifi
[11:16] <satdav> Oh would be good for Wi-Fi built in
[11:16] <gordonDrogon> there are several shops now selling Pi compatible Wi-Fi USB dobgles though.
[11:16] <gordonDrogon> satdav, it would be good if .... but the original design spec. was for a workable computer costing < $35.
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[11:17] <ShorTie> but most likely still best to plug the wifi into a powered hub
[11:18] <satdav> Ok I will need to get a usb booser port
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[11:21] <satdav> As will need more usb port's as only have 2
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[11:26] <rosapoP> a powerd usb hub is a good idea
[11:28] <satdav> Will check on the net, what does the camera connect to
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[11:30] <ShorTie> the rPi camera has it's own special port
[11:31] <satdav> Ok would you recommended it,
[11:31] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
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[11:35] <satdav> Shortie you got one
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[11:38] <satdav> I am on Amazon and they do a extension board
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[11:39] <ShorTie> ya i got 1
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[11:42] <satdav> Would that give me more USB port's and what port does it connect to
[11:43] <satdav> ShorTie ^
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[11:46] <ShorTie> what does what connect too ??
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[11:47] <ShorTie> i like the Rosewill rhb-500 usb hub
[11:47] <satdav> Cool
[11:48] <satdav> The expansion board
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[11:49] <ShorTie> kinda confused by what you mean as expansion board
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[11:49] <ShorTie> if you are talking about the rPi camera module, like i said it has it's own special port
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[12:18] <Roostmax> New to IRC
[12:18] <Roostmax> Looking for a solution to have my pi accessible from outside the local netwrok
[12:18] <Roostmax> My be portable
[12:18] <Roostmax> So port forwarding is not really an option
[12:18] <gordonDrogon> 3G modem?
[12:18] <Roostmax> Hmm
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[12:19] <Roostmax> Have another device for my home alarm that connects via ethernet
[12:19] <Roostmax> Never needed router changes
[12:19] <Roostmax> They have an app
[12:19] <Roostmax> Took its mac address
[12:20] <Roostmax> So somehow now have access to send messages into it
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> it probably establishes an outbound vpn to some remote server. your 'app' connects to the remote server which then connects back to the device.
[12:20] <Roostmax> Ahh, ok, vpn is not something I had considered
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[12:24] <Roostmax> Damn, seems even vpn setup needs port forwarding
[12:24] <gordonDrogon> shouldn't.
[12:25] <gordonDrogon> if the device on the inside is the one that initiates the connection.
[12:25] <Roostmax> Ahh
[12:25] <gordonDrogon> I do this frequently to get devices connected up behind NAT/3G systems.
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[12:25] <Roostmax> Yeh, just browsing through some setup instructions
[12:25] <timekeeper> hmm
[12:25] <timekeeper> never thought about using a vpn for that kinda stuff either
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> if it's linux to linux and you want something really simple then look at VTUN.
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> and when you find the security warning post in the interwebs about it, do check the date ...
[12:26] <Roostmax> chuckle
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[12:27] <Roostmax> So, I like the idea of the vpn and will investigate it further...
[12:27] <Roostmax> Any idea to do it without a cloud server?
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> vtun can also run without encryption - a small bonus on a Pi which is relatively slow at some encryptions.
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> you need one server /somewhere/ with a fixed IP address.
[12:28] <gordonDrogon> so a cheap VPS somewhere, or your own server, etc.
[12:29] <Roostmax> Yeh, ok, makes sense. Obviously external devices need to have some fixed point to access, and then the cloud server will have to redicrect via vpn
[12:29] <timekeeper> i already have a vpn on a vps for my own use
[12:29] <timekeeper> could just hook my pi to it, hm
[12:29] <timekeeper> so does that mean I dont need to do port forwarding or dyndns?
[12:29] <timekeeper> just vpn from the other end and use the vpn IP of the pi?
[12:30] <gordonDrogon> timekeeper, you shouldn't need, but you may need to port-forward or provide some sort of forwarding server on the VPN endpoint server.
[12:30] <gordonDrogon> or run a 2nd vpn to it, so it's acting as a router.
[12:31] <timekeeper> golly
[12:31] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
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[12:31] <Triffid_Hunter> Roostmax: there are ways to fool NAT firewalls into opening connections, but the two devices need to be in communication beforehand
[12:32] <Roostmax> OK, so to confirm the logic…
[12:32] <Roostmax> Pi boots up
[12:32] <Roostmax> Establishes VPN to cloud
[12:32] <Roostmax> Cloud has static ip
[12:32] <Roostmax> extrernal device connect via static IP to cloud
[12:32] <Roostmax> cloud redicrects traffic via vpn to pi
[12:33] <Triffid_Hunter> yep
[12:33] <Roostmax> Goodly
[12:33] <Roostmax> Thanks folks
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[15:34] <cheesenbiscuits> Hi All
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[15:37] * Armand farts
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[15:44] <timekeeper> i prefer youngskirts
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[15:48] <IT_Sean> easy there.
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[15:56] * tig| lobs a bagel at IT_Sean
[15:56] * IT_Sean catches it
[15:56] * IT_Sean eats it
[15:57] <IT_Sean> Mmm... ballistic breakfast.
[15:57] * tig| wonders if his order of servos and other stuff will arrive in time for the weekend
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[15:58] <tig|> breakfast? I thought you were eastern US?
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[15:58] <IT_Sean> I am
[15:58] <IT_Sean> What's your point?
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[15:58] <tig|> breakfast? lazy.
[16:01] <tig|> I will soon have a pi controlled robot arm \o/ then the next stop is mounting it on the pibot!
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[16:06] <timekeeper> and then
[16:06] <timekeeper> world domination
[16:06] <IT_Sean> um... no.
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[16:08] <tig|> sadly the arm is not strong enough for that
[16:09] <tig|> and too small to fetch beer :(
[16:09] <IT_Sean> So... useless, then.
[16:11] <tig|> well not entirely, as it will serve as a prototype
[16:12] <timekeeper> my, my, you're a bit of a dick aren't you IT_Sean?
[16:12] <tig|> I would love to build a robot that pours me a pint though :)
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[16:13] <tig|> IT_Sean: it can probably pick up bagels :)
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[16:15] <IT_Sean> timekeeper: No... I'm not. Thanks for asking though. I just feel that if your robot cannot take over the world... what's the point?
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[16:16] <timekeeper> true enough
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[16:20] <tig|> IT_Sean: you need to walk before you can establish a crushing pi powered iron fist of global domination...
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[16:43] <RayS> does anyone have a system working for world cup viewing?
[16:43] <double-you> heh, a live ticker?
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[16:44] <RayS> video
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[17:21] <crumb> man, the dingleberrypi is such a piece of junk
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[17:23] <crumb> first they said the model a's were gonna be only $25
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[17:23] <crumb> they didn't even take into account the retailer costs
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[17:24] <crumb> and on top of that, it's underpowered
[17:24] <crumb> have to use a powered hub just to use a keyboard
[17:25] <tig|> crumb: you don't have to, I don't
[17:25] <crumb> well, i do.. otherwise it takes like 30 seconds for each car to appear on screen
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[17:26] <tig|> that doesn't sound right even on a model a
[17:26] <crumb> s/car/char*
[17:26] <crumb> i have a model b
[17:27] <crumb> and then, it just stops outputting to hdmi
[17:27] <tig|> considering the cost of them they were never going to set the world on fire performance wise but it does sound as if you have a problem as that is not normal behaviour
[17:27] <crumb> well it sure sounded that way when they first came out
[17:28] <tig|> what class of sd are you using?
[17:28] <crumb> sdhc
[17:28] <tig|> also have you tried a fresh image on a different card?
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[17:28] <crumb> yes
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[17:29] <crumb> i've used the same card before when it worked
[17:30] <crumb> it boots, and i can ssh in, so it's not the sd card
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[17:30] <tig|> you can edit the boot config to force the hdmi to stay on
[17:30] <crumb> i've tried that
[17:31] <tig|> odd
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[17:33] <crumb> couldn't go through a week without having to hear about dingleberries on slashdot
[17:33] <crumb> so i figured i might as well
[17:34] <crumb> then wait on a shipment backlog for nearly 4months
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[17:37] <IT_Sean> you and every other early adopter.
[17:39] <tig|> my first pi is still going strong
[17:39] <IT_Sean> ^ that
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[17:40] <tig|> plus the foundation was/is not a multinational doing a product lunch where they had been ramping up production months in advance and the demand was immense and not what they were expecting
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[17:52] <crumb> well, i don't care so much about the wait time now, but the fact that it's junk is what pisses me off about everything
[17:52] <IT_Sean> it's not junk, crumb.
[17:52] <crumb> it's not?
[17:53] <IT_Sean> it is not.
[17:53] <crumb> so why doesn't keyboard or hdmi work?
[17:53] <IT_Sean> You are clearly having some bad luck with it, but, it is not, as you put it, "junk".
[17:54] <crumb> i'm not the only one having the problem.. http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=35297
[17:55] <crumb> i remember upton going on video and showing off the hdmi as being the game changer in dev boards
[17:56] <crumb> and that doesn't even work
[17:58] <IT_Sean> Odd... it works prefectly on both of my raspis
[17:59] <tig|> before the pi came out the closest things available to them were shivaplugs and guru plugs they were about £100 to £150, the shiva had two usb one ethernet and no display of any kind
[18:00] <crumb> at least sheeva plugs have no problems doing what they're advertised to do
[18:00] <tig|> and hdmi works fine on my pi
[18:00] <tig|> crumb: until the powersupply goes pop on them which it does and has on mine
[18:00] <crumb> even a cheap $10 tv set-top box can get hdmi right
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[18:01] <tig|> yet even though mine has broken after a couple of years I don't dismiss all shiva plugs as junk
[18:02] <RayS> crumb: sounds like you got a bad unit or something else. we have like 10 pis at the office, all driving web dashboards via hdmi
[18:02] <RayS> I also have 2 at home running rasplex for video streaming
[18:02] <crumb> and they're not going to take it back or refund the licenses
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[18:03] <tig|> how old is it?
[18:04] <crumb> i dunno, at least 2yrs
[18:04] <tig|> so it has broken after about two years of use?
[18:04] <crumb> no, i rarely used it
[18:04] <crumb> more like 2months of use
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[18:38] <Encrypt> Hey gordonDrogon !
[18:38] <Encrypt> I've been thinking about what we said yesterday...
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[18:39] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, We could simply use a zener diode in reverse which has a reverse voltage of 1.7 / 1.8V, no?
[18:39] <Encrypt> To convert 5V into 3.3V
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[18:42] <gordonDrogon> Encrypt, you could use a 3.6v zener - it's common on "protected" GPIO buffer boards.
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> the voltage on a zener is usually its breakdown voltage.
[18:43] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, Why 3.6V?
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> you still need a resistor and a zener is more expensive than a resistor.
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> 3.6v is a common value.
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> I couldn't find a 3.3v one last time I built something with them.
[18:44] <Encrypt> Because using a 1.7V one gives a logic 5 - 1.7 = 3.3V
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> it doesn't work that way.
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> a 1.7v zener will give 1.7v out.
[18:45] <Encrypt> Ok
[18:45] <Encrypt> I was sure it worked that way
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> even if it did, you still need the resistor.
[18:46] <Encrypt> Yes
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zener_diode#Uses for it's use.
[18:46] <Encrypt> As a pull down
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> no - as a current limiter.
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[18:48] <gordonDrogon> just use 2 resistors and be happy.
[18:48] <Encrypt> Yes, you're right
[18:48] <Encrypt> It's the simplest way to do so
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> yup.
[18:50] <timekeeper> can i wire myself into two resistors and make msyelf happy?
[18:52] <Encrypt> timekeeper, You should try I think... :þ
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[18:53] <timekeeper> gotta make sure i ground myself from the 3.3v properly
[18:53] <IT_Sean> I'd recommend you wire yourself into some nice, delicious mains voltage. That'll be sure to cheer you right up.
[18:53] <IT_Sean> ;p
[18:54] <timekeeper> how many v is that?
[18:54] <timekeeper> that would perk me up for sure
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> round here, "mains" is 230 volts...
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> +20%, -10% or something silly like that to cater for existing 240v systems...
[18:55] <timekeeper> sparkly
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> Hm. My current mains appears to be 245v right now.
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[18:57] <timekeeper> did you just stick a multimeter in your socket?
[18:59] <IT_Sean> I'm betting he did
[18:59] <IT_Sean> perfectly safe, if you know what you are doing.
[18:59] <timekeeper> you mean putting a hand in a back pocket?
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[19:30] <gordonDrogon> me - no, I have a plug-in meter for measuring power usage of something.
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/13a-plug-in-energy-saving-monitor-n67fu <-- similar to that, but not that - that was just the first google hit.
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[19:38] <serb> is it possible to get yume nikki playing on the raspberry pi ?
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[19:44] <mumbles> so close to ording a camear
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[19:45] <mumbles> module
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[21:17] <smrtz|nix> Anyone here using wireingpi? I've got a small question about using it in a bash script.
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[21:20] <smrtz|nix> If I'm trying to write to a pin, I first have to set it to output with "/usr/local/bin/gpio/export $pin out". And then to write to it, I do "/usr/local/bin/gpio write $pin [0/1]" right?
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> smrtz|nix, no
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> smrtz|nix, you can do the following: gpio mode $pin out ; gpio write $pin 1
[21:21] <smrtz|nix> gordonDrogon: Oh?
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> no need to do the gpio export command.
[21:21] <smrtz|nix> Oh, cool.
[21:21] <smrtz|nix> and at the end of my script, do I have to set the mode back, the same way I'd unexport it?
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> not really.
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> always assume they are in a weird mode to start with.
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> so you explicitly set the pins to the mode you need.
[21:22] <smrtz|nix> Ahh, cool. Thanks for the help!
[21:23] <smrtz|nix> Oh, so you don't have to do that, if you know it'll be in the right mode? Given that you should, buecause you won't know the mode it's in.
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[21:23] <gordonDrogon> alway set the mode explicitly in every program/script you write.
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[21:23] <gordonDrogon> so at the start of the script, set the modes.
[21:23] <smrtz|nix> Yeah, I will.
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[21:25] <smrtz|nix> Thanks for the help.
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[23:11] <smrtz|nix> So I've created two bash scripts, and I need them to start on boot, I'm trying to use Upstart. I've got /etc/init/scripts.conf: http://sprunge.us/fjWJ
[23:11] <smrtz|nix> but when I try and run it, I get: CompScripts stop/waiting
[23:12] <smrtz|nix> Do you guys think it's a problem with my upstart script, or the two bash scripts?
[23:13] <rikkib> first services are started using a init.d script
[23:13] <Encrypt> You could execute them directly from /etc/init.d/rc.local
[23:13] <rikkib> check the directory for the skeleton script
[23:13] <rikkib> /etc/rc.local
[23:13] <smrtz|nix> Oh, I was following a guide I found online...
[23:13] <rikkib> if you wish to do it that way
[23:14] <smrtz|nix> What's the recommended way to start a bash script at boot?
[23:14] <rikkib> init.d
[23:15] <smrtz|nix> Ok, I'll start playing with the example script and see if I can get that working.
[23:15] <rikkib> the script runs in the background?
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[23:15] <smrtz|nix> yeah, it's something that I need running from boot to shutdown.
[23:15] <rikkib> or just run commands and exits?
[23:16] <smrtz|nix> No, it's a bit of a hobbled together SCP script.
[23:16] <rikkib> in other words is it a deamon?
[23:16] <smrtz|nix> it shouldn't exit.
[23:16] <smrtz|nix> I don't belive so.
[23:16] <smrtz|nix> I"m not sure how a deamon is defigned...
[23:16] <rikkib> one of's run from /etc/rc.local
[23:17] <rikkib> deamons are run from init.d script
[23:17] <smrtz|nix> here's the guide I was following: CompScripts stop/waiting
[23:17] <smrtz|nix> sorry, here: http://infovore.org/archives/2013/08/09/running-scripts-on-startup-with-your-raspberry-pi/
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[23:17] <smrtz|nix> Here's one of the scripts, rikkib: http://ix.io/cXm
[23:18] <smrtz|nix> How would you handle it?
[23:19] <rikkib> init.d script
[23:20] <rikkib> use the skeleton scripts and set up the start/stop/restart to call your script
[23:20] <rikkib> then use update-init.d
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[23:21] <rikkib> Hmmm
[23:22] <rikkib> update-init.d is the wrong command
[23:22] <rikkib> hang on I will find the correct command to add new init.d scripts
[23:22] <smrtz|nix> Ok, I'll figure that out. Thanks.
[23:22] <smrtz|nix> thanks for the help.
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[23:24] <rikkib> update-rc.d
[23:24] <rikkib> read up on the rc.d directories and how the init.d system works
[23:25] <smrtz|nix> Thanks.
[23:25] <smrtz|nix> So with the init info, I've got no idea what the numbers represent.
[23:25] <rikkib> If you add the script to rc.local it will never exit
[23:25] <rikkib> so bad
[23:26] <smrtz|nix> Ahh, ok.
[23:26] <rikkib> using init.d script will run the scripts in the background
[23:27] <smrtz|nix> Do I need to change anything for the Required-start and stop sections?
[23:27] <rikkib> yes
[23:27] <rikkib> you need to modify the skeleton script
[23:27] <rikkib> to call your script
[23:28] <rikkib> look at the top for a variable for your script
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[23:29] <rikkib> DAEMON=
[23:29] <smrtz|nix> Look at the top of what?
[23:29] <smrtz|nix> Can you link me to a guide on doing this? It's a little out of my depth...
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[23:30] <rikkib> /etc/init.d/skeleton
[23:31] <rikkib> make a copy and rename it to the name of your service
[23:31] <smrtz|nix> Yeah, I've done that.
[23:31] <rikkib> change about six lines at the top
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[23:31] <smrtz|nix> How do I know what to change them to?
[23:31] <rikkib> But first make sure your script runs on the command line as root
[23:31] <smrtz|nix> It does.
[23:32] <rikkib> The changes are fairly logical
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[23:32] <smrtz|nix> Default-Start?
[23:32] <rikkib> daemon is your script
[23:32] <smrtz|nix> What about in the INIT INFO?
[23:33] <rikkib> name=what you call the service
[23:34] <rikkib> args and pid file
[23:34] <rikkib> DESC=
[23:35] <rikkib> INIT INFO?
[23:35] <rikkib> no idea
[23:35] <rikkib> Once you edit the skeleton script you add it to the boot sequence with update-rc.d
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[23:36] <rikkib> man update-rc.d
[23:36] <rikkib> update-rc.d enable yourrc.script
[23:36] <rikkib> or something like that
[23:36] <smrtz|nix> Here's what I've got so far: http://sprunge.us/gQia
[23:37] <smrtz|nix> minus the author line...
[23:37] <rikkib> That link does not work (q)
[23:37] <rikkib> is all it says
[23:38] <smrtz|nix> wtf.. sec
[23:38] <rikkib> Linux has several run levels
[23:39] <rikkib> the rc.d system sorts all that out for you
[23:39] <smrtz|nix> Try this one? http://sprunge.us/HjTd
[23:39] <rikkib> that is what the update-rc.d command is for
[23:39] <smrtz|nix> Oh, wait.
[23:39] <smrtz|nix> sec...
[23:40] <smrtz|nix> Aww shit, I overwrote the file with 'q'.
[23:40] <smrtz|nix> let me start over...
[23:40] <rikkib> bit unforgiving some times is Linux
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[23:41] <smrtz|nix> http://sprunge.us/GFLY
[23:41] <rikkib> I will go over the sequence again.
[23:42] <smrtz|nix> I mean, I did it as you said. I'd just like someone to look over the result.
[23:42] <rikkib> Yep that looks OK
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[23:42] <smrtz|nix> Awesome, thanks!
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[23:43] <rikkib> Now run uopdate-rc.d as per the enable command man update-rc.d
[23:44] <smrtz|nix> right.
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[23:45] <rikkib> update-rc.d your-rc-script-name enable
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[23:45] <rikkib> Once you do that you can check the rc directories to make sure the script has been added to the init scripts
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[23:46] <rikkib> The is also an index in /etc/init.d
[23:46] <smrtz|nix> I'm getting this error: http://sprunge.us/NJVB
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[23:47] <rikkib> the files depend.boot/start/stop
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[23:48] <smrtz|nix> What?
[23:48] <rikkib> dot depend files (hidden files
[23:48] <rikkib> There are three files in /etc/iint.d that get maintained by uodate-rc.d
[23:49] <rikkib> they are hidden files
[23:49] <smrtz|nix> Oh, yea.
[23:49] <rikkib> .depend.boot
[23:49] <smrtz|nix> I thought you we're saying my error is because of those files.
[23:49] <rikkib> .depend-start
[23:49] <rikkib> no
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[23:49] <smrtz|nix> I'll check those once I get this to successfully update, but first, can you help me with that error please?
[23:50] <rikkib> just telling you how to manually check if your uodate-rc.d changes
[23:50] <rikkib> The error is?
[23:51] <smrtz|nix> I'm getting this error: http://sprunge.us/NJVB
[23:51] <rikkib> OK
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[23:52] <rikkib> update-rc.d rc-script-name enable
[23:52] <rikkib> so the name is the file name you created with the skeleton script
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[23:53] <rikkib> not your script that does the work
[23:53] <rikkib> that is named in the skeleton file
[23:53] <smrtz|nix> Right, and I named that SCPscript.sh
[23:53] <rikkib> that is not the convention
[23:54] <rikkib> SCPscript
[23:54] <smrtz|nix> Ok, I'll move it.
[23:54] <rikkib> no .sh
[23:54] <smrtz|nix> I'm getting the same error.
[23:54] <rikkib> then update-rc.d SCPscript enable
[23:54] <smrtz|nix> I think the problems in the script. Do you still have the link to it?
[23:55] <rikkib> no closed it
[23:55] <smrtz|nix> http://sprunge.us/PiMK
[23:56] <rikkib> There are some mistakes
[23:56] <rikkib> PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
[23:56] <rikkib> DESC="Script to handle SCP"
[23:56] <rikkib> NAME=SCPscript.sh
[23:56] <rikkib> DAEMON=/home/pi/git/rpi/SCPscript.sh
[23:56] <rikkib> DAEMON_ARGS="--options args"
[23:56] <rikkib> PIDFILE=/var/run/$NAME.pid
[23:56] <rikkib> SCRIPTNAME=/etc/init.d/$NAME
[23:57] <rikkib> Add the path in first
[23:57] <rikkib> NAME is wrong
[23:57] <smrtz|nix> so add ":/home/pi/git/rPr"?
[23:57] <rikkib> it needs to macch the file name
[23:57] <rikkib> SCPscript
[23:58] <rikkib> Once in the path the script can be called with just the name
[23:58] <rikkib> yes
[23:58] <rikkib> to the path
[23:59] <rikkib> or put the script in the path
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[23:59] <smrtz|nix> I'd like to keep it in the git for updates.
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[23:59] <rikkib> daemon=SCPScript.sh
[23:59] <rikkib> daemon_arg needs clearing

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