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IRC Log for 2014-06-16

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[0:19] <kylethebaker> does it matter what side of an led a resistor is on? with the setup mgottschlag explained above, for the red light between the gpio pin and ground, can it be on either side?
[0:20] <mgottschlag> yes
[0:20] <mgottschlag> I mean, it does not matter
[0:20] <mgottschlag> the order of electrical components never does in situations like this, because the current is the same everywhere in the circuit
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[0:21] <kylethebaker> okay, I see. thanks
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[0:37] <kylethebaker> does that mean that these resistances are stacking? the leds are really dull
[0:38] <ShorTie> how big are they ??
[0:38] <kylethebaker> im using 150ohms, one for each led. so it goes 3.3 -> 150o -> red led -> pin -> green led -> 150o -> ground
[0:38] <kylethebaker> i have two of those setup, and then two push buttons, each with 1.2kohm resistors
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[0:42] <ShorTie> are the switches tied into the leds at all ??
[0:42] <kylethebaker> yea, through the 3.3v pin
[0:43] <kylethebaker> each of the switches go 3.3 -> switch -> gpio -> 1.2kohm -> ground
[0:43] <ShorTie> but they go to different gpio pins ??
[0:44] <kylethebaker> yea, im using 4 gpio pins total, one for each switch, and one for each pair of leds
[0:44] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
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[0:45] <ShorTie> circuit sounds ok, it could be the leds
[0:46] <ShorTie> how does the brightness compare with just led and resistor ??
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[0:48] <rikkib> 1.l2K is to much for switching
[0:49] <rikkib> it will give random results
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[0:49] <rikkib> try 860ohms
[0:49] <mgottschlag> huh, 1.2k is almost the same as 860 o.O
[0:49] <mgottschlag> and certainly not too much
[0:49] <rikkib> green blue brown what is that
[0:50] <ShorTie> i was think'n it should be more really
[0:50] <mgottschlag> I would probably have used 10k
[0:50] <mgottschlag> I prefer my resistors with numbers on them :D
[0:50] <ShorTie> me 2
[0:50] <rikkib> 560ohm is what I use in thast type of circuit
[0:51] <ShorTie> Bad Boys Romance Our Young Girls Behind Victory Garden Walls
[0:51] <rikkib> it is current limit resistor
[0:51] <kylethebaker> okay, I think it was how the pins were set. now the red ones are bright but the greens are still dull
[0:52] <Tachyon`> ah, a mnemonic
[0:52] <pksato> kylethebaker: invert green led.
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[0:52] <rikkib> 5.8mA
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[0:52] <mgottschlag> a quick google image search for "switch pullup" shows mostly 100k - 10k resistors :)
[0:53] <mgottschlag> kylethebaker: green LEDs have a higher voltage drop, so they need a slightly smaller resistor
[0:53] <mgottschlag> for equal dissipated energy in the LED
[0:53] <rikkib> That is for pull ups
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[0:53] <mgottschlag> rikkib: yeah, that's exactly what he has there
[0:53] <rikkib> what you are doing is current limiting to stop the switch blowing up the gpio
[0:54] <rikkib> 3.3v (gpio) --- 560ohm --- switch --- grnd
[0:54] <mgottschlag> 3.3v (gpio) --- 560ohm --- switch --- 10kOhm --- grnd actually
[0:55] <mgottschlag> but yeah, makes sense, just didn't make any sense in the original context
[0:55] <rikkib> will never work
[0:55] <mgottschlag> sorry
[0:55] <mgottschlag> 3.3v (gpio) --- 560ohm --- switch --- gpio --- 10kOhm --- grnd
[0:55] <rikkib> I tell you again I use a 560 ohm resistor and I have teseted with other values
[0:55] <mgottschlag> unless you use a builtin pullup/pulldown
[0:55] <Tachyon`> a teacher got reprimanded for using an old mnemonic for resistor colour codes a couple of years ago... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-12584669
[0:55] <mgottschlag> rikkib: but you *need* some kind of pullup/pulldown
[0:56] <rikkib> I am 54 and been doing electronics since 13
[0:56] <mgottschlag> otherwise the pin would be floating
[0:56] <rikkib> the rpi gpio has the pullup
[0:56] <kylethebaker> mgottschlag: i think its something else, this same led isolated by itself with a 150ohm is bright
[0:56] <rikkib> enable pull up on that pin
[0:57] <rikkib> as soon as you gns the pin the pin shows low
[0:57] <rikkib> positive logic
[0:57] <mgottschlag> rikkib: sure, the pi has that, but for people who just learn how to work with electronics you should explicitly state that it is there -.-
[0:57] <rikkib> or active low is another way of saying it.
[0:58] <rikkib> the circuit you show can only work as positive logic
[0:59] <kylethebaker> ah, wait thats what it was i think, if i put a red there its bright
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[1:00] <mgottschlag> whatever, fact is, kylethebaker's original circuit was correct, even though it could have used some more builtin safety
[1:00] <mgottschlag> kylethebaker: hm, you have 150 ohm on both LEDs, and the red one is brighter?
[1:01] <rikkib> The simple solution I use involved a switch and one 560 ohm resistor gpio --- res --- switch --- gnd
[1:01] <kylethebaker> yea, but if I make them both red, the red where the green one was is less bright
[1:01] <pksato> http://webtronics.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/webtronics/schematic.html
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[1:01] <rikkib> as shown ohms law gives a current of 5.8mA whichy is fine for the rpi
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[1:02] <rikkib> pull up enables and port set as input
[1:02] <mgottschlag> kylethebaker: try to swap the resistors and see whether the brightness is swapped
[1:03] <rikkib> high = switch open low = closed... One needs to implement software debounce
[1:04] <rikkib> different coloured leds draw different current
[1:04] <rikkib> one needs to review the data sheet to calc the value
[1:05] <kylethebaker> mgottschlag: hah, I had a 300ohm on the green. the resistors I have are cheap and hard to read
[1:06] <mgottschlag> :D
[1:06] <mgottschlag> red and green LEDs are both ~2V though, not much variation
[1:06] <ShorTie> that is why they made meters .. :)~
[1:08] <kylethebaker> I need to make breadboard cables for my multimeter
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[1:09] <kylethebaker> or clamp them to jumper cables or something. im too shakey to measure small stuff with them
[1:09] <rikkib> Personally I would not hook an led to gpio without a buffer transistor. The RPi IS NOT designed to drive loads over 6mA average.
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[1:09] <ShorTie> best meter lead i got is a pin
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[1:10] <ShorTie> the normal end broke off, so i just jamed a pin up the wire
[1:10] <ShorTie> it's nice cause it is the red 1 too .. :)~
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[1:12] <rikkib> With a total drive of 56mA for all pins it and individual limits of 16mA per pin it does not take many high drive pins to overload things.
[1:13] <mgottschlag> well, he sinks/sources about 9mA, that's well within the limit of 16mA
[1:14] <mgottschlag> actuall, 18 mA over two pins, that's still enough headroom unless there is much more circuitry attached
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[1:16] <bkboggy> is there a command to tell me how sd card space is being used (total, free, used, etc)... kind of like what meminfo file has
[1:16] <mgottschlag> bkboggy: "df -h" might be good enough
[1:17] <bkboggy> mgottschlag: Thanks, that works.
[1:17] <rikkib> df -h
[1:17] <rikkib> ug
[1:17] <rikkib> to slow reading
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[1:19] <pksato> http://easyeda.com/
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[1:21] <wh1p> Have any persons in this chat room experimented with raspberry pi super computers?
[1:23] <SpeedEvil> No such thing.
[1:23] <wh1p> right...
[1:23] <SpeedEvil> The pi is so low performance that it's perhaps 5 or 10% of a 'fast' CPU core.
[1:24] <wh1p> yes
[1:24] <SpeedEvil> Comparing with an 8 core processor - you need over a hundred Pis.
[1:24] <wh1p> But there is also no better way to learn about distributed computing than to do it with a budget
[1:24] <pksato> 3 million RPi can reach top500?
[1:24] <wh1p> i.e. raspberry pi's
[1:24] <SpeedEvil> Right - it's a multiprocessor computer.
[1:24] <SpeedEvil> It's not a supercomputer unless you have >500K or so Pis.
[1:24] <wh1p> I cannot tell if troll or just ignorant
[1:25] <SpeedEvil> You're ignorant, I think.
[1:25] <rikkib> oppps
[1:25] <pksato> wh1p: I have only one rpi.
[1:25] <wh1p> But to learn about such technologies you do not need massive amount of processing spcae
[1:25] <wh1p> just capability
[1:25] <bkboggy> http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/software/apt.md <--what IS "tree" that they're referring to
[1:25] <SpeedEvil> Supercomputer essentially always implies high computing power - not merely number of cores.
[1:25] <wh1p> Ok'
[1:26] <SpeedEvil> wh1p: Sure. But it's not a supercomputer.
[1:26] <wh1p> Just to make certain individual persons in this channek
[1:26] <wh1p> *channel
[1:26] <wh1p> have any persons in here played with distributed computing using raspberry pi;s
[1:26] <Dannox> There's this thing someone made once. http://likemagicappears.com/projects/raspberry-pi-cluster/
[1:27] <wh1p> SpeedEvil, So you multithreading I7 with a controlled cluster of virtualised nodes is also not a super computer
[1:27] <bkboggy> There's also this thing: http://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1157274/size/tl-horizontal_main
[1:27] <wh1p> by meaning a super computer is only a distributed processing farm
[1:28] <rikkib> tree = command to view directories as tree's
[1:28] <SpeedEvil> wh1p: Supercomputer is not solely configuration of nodes. 10000 8008 processors is not a supercomputer.
[1:28] <bkboggy> rikkib: thanks
[1:28] <rikkib> try mc to give a gui file manager
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[1:28] <SpeedEvil> It is a multiprocessor and distributed computer. To be a supercomputer by generally accepted definitions requires high performance. You don't get that with Pi, unless you use truly insane numbers of nodes.
[1:29] <rikkib> apt-get install mc
[1:29] <rikkib> sudo if need be
[1:29] <Dannox> If you want to do distributed or cluster, why not get yourself an older dual xeon server and run some kvm instances.
[1:29] <SpeedEvil> Of the order of a hundred times more than with fast processors.
[1:29] <bkboggy> rikkib: thanks ;)
[1:29] <wh1p> SpeedEvil, I would like to thank you on your input whether negatory or just dismissing but are any persons in this channel actually capable of providing me with any input on distributed computing using raspberry pi's :?
[1:29] <rikkib> mc is a command line util
[1:29] <SpeedEvil> wh1p: I haven't seen any discussion on the past on it
[1:29] <Dannox> What exactly do you want to do with your cluser, mpi?
[1:30] <Dannox> Openstack?
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[1:30] <SpeedEvil> wh1p: I'd wonder if there are any distributed computing channels on freenode
[1:31] <rikkib> mc tip. config it for internal editor otherwise you use vi which is a pain for newbies
[1:31] <bkboggy> rikkib: Woo, i like. It's like old school BIOS
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[1:31] <rikkib> xtree gold
[1:31] <rikkib> like
[1:31] <rikkib> which is a real old school dos app
[1:31] <bkboggy> what do you mean by configuring for internal editor?
[1:31] <pksato> http://www.zdnet.com/build-your-own-supercomputer-out-of-raspberry-pi-boards-7000015831/
[1:32] <wh1p> SpeedEvil, This is what has sparked my interest in carrying out this research http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/
[1:32] <Dannox> One for openstack. http://openstack.prov12n.com/openstack-on-raspberry-pi-part-2-getting-started/
[1:32] <rikkib> be carefull if run as root as you can easily destroy things
[1:32] <rikkib> and there is no undelete in unix :)
[1:32] <bkboggy> rikkib: nah, i don't use root unless necessary
[1:33] <rikkib> well that is where mc is most powerful
[1:33] <bkboggy> then again, i'm not too worried, since it's rPi and an SD card
[1:33] <bkboggy> what's the worst that can happen
[1:33] <SpeedEvil> wh1p: It's reasonable to consider why you're doing this on Pis, ratehr than VMs. Which are likely cheaper.
[1:33] * bkboggy looked around as he said it
[1:34] <rikkib> I always to most admin stuff as root but I have been using Linux since the 90's
[1:34] <wh1p> rikkib, but isn't breaking things the most important way of learning :)
[1:34] <bkboggy> rikkib: Ah, I'm new to Linux. I'm a .NET developer, so I'm in uncharted territory, heh
[1:34] <wh1p> embrace the hacker ethic
[1:34] <rikkib> That is debatable
[1:34] <wh1p> break, learn, repeat
[1:35] <wh1p> Also, just to make this clear
[1:35] <wh1p> i talk of the word hacker as someone who lieks to experiment
[1:35] <wh1p> not skript kids
[1:35] <bkboggy> there are skript kid hackers?
[1:35] <bkboggy> lol
[1:35] * bkboggy rolls his eyes
[1:36] <wh1p> thou who embraces the 1337 tag :D
[1:36] <bkboggy> mkay
[1:36] <bkboggy> rikkib: Thanks for pointing me to MC, I'll explore their website, which they've kind provided at the startup
[1:37] <wh1p> I develop C, I have never particularly had a go at higher based programming other than python
[1:37] <wh1p> what is .NET like?
[1:37] <bkboggy> well, you develop in C, it's not that hard to find out
[1:38] <bkboggy> considering there's a project like Mono, .NET must be decent
[1:38] <Dannox> .net is pretty solid. Mono is about as stable as a jenga tower.
[1:38] <rikkib> I use MC all the time to move/copy/delete files. View zip/tar/deb files amongst other useful things
[1:38] <bkboggy> lol
[1:39] <bkboggy> wh1p: for you -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2fhNVQPb5I
[1:39] <wh1p> hehe :P
[1:40] <wh1p> My main interest for it is to create around an ethos of minimal processing requirement
[1:40] <bkboggy> well, why not assembly?
[1:40] <bkboggy> i've played with x86, it's not that bad
[1:40] <wh1p> because I tired that
[1:41] <wh1p> and my brain exploded
[1:41] <wh1p> :D
[1:41] <bkboggy> hmm
[1:41] <bkboggy> why?
[1:41] <bkboggy> it's not complicated... you just have to take more steps to do something
[1:41] <bkboggy> lost work
[1:41] <bkboggy> lots of work*
[1:42] <wh1p> mainly because at the time I was learning it I also had many other areas of computer systems to learn about
[1:42] <bkboggy> mm same here
[1:42] <Dannox> There's not much reason to write assembly when modern optimizing compilers are so much better at it than us.
[1:42] <bkboggy> well, depends on area of application, but mostly true Dannox
[1:43] <Dannox> Still, in those cases you can just use inline asm
[1:43] <bkboggy> i myself use C# mainly, so believe me, i like simplicity
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[1:45] <Dannox> Python dev here. It's great until you run into memory issues, then you want to personally find guido and beat him with a 5 dollar wrench.
[1:45] <bkboggy> :D
[1:45] <Dannox> Turns out calling del on a dictionary element doesn't free the memory for reasons.
[1:45] <bkboggy> Dannox, since you're a python guy, tell me... is that the reason why EVE virtually freezes on large scale encounters or is it more on network side of things
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[1:46] <Luke-Jr> any ideas what would cause finish_task_switch to use 25% CPU time? :/
[1:46] <Dannox> Well they use stackless, so it's pretty different than standard CPython, but it's mainly the number of players
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[1:46] <Dannox> If any other mmo had that many players in a small location, they'd grind to a halt too.
[1:46] <bkboggy> i see
[1:47] <Dannox> Ever since tidi was implemented I hear it's gotten a bit better.
[1:47] <bkboggy> I'm pretty impressed that they could create such a gorgeous and complex game with python, though.
[1:47] <blockh34d> pythons great for games imo
[1:48] <bkboggy> the only time i use it (and this could change down the road) is when I work with Blender
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[1:48] <blockh34d> maybe a little on the sluggish side but GPUs alleviate that more every day
[1:48] <Dannox> Python is really a bad choice for game development .
[1:48] <blockh34d> bkboggy: i use python all day every day
[1:48] <Dannox> The libraries aren't mature enough for most OpenGL stuff.
[1:48] <blockh34d> Dannox: bad for you maybe
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[1:49] <bkboggy> which version do you guys use 2x or 3x?
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[1:49] <Dannox> CCP runs python server side, but as far as I know their client is a mix of C and C++
[1:49] <blockh34d> 2x 4 lyfe
[1:49] <Dannox> 2.7
[1:49] <blockh34d> 3 is for the lames
[1:49] <bkboggy> any chance that 3x libraries will ever catch up to 2x standard?
[1:49] <Dannox> In due time.
[1:49] <bkboggy> So, how come you guys choose 2x?
[1:50] <Dannox> It's what my company uses.
[1:50] <bkboggy> Ah
[1:50] <blockh34d> its what the libraries i wanted to use use
[1:50] <bkboggy> good point
[1:50] <bkboggy> I'm just curious regarding your statement regarding 3.
[1:50] <blockh34d> i think its just a smidge faster too
[1:51] <Dannox> There have been benchmarks, but benchmarks can be misleading.
[1:51] <blockh34d> Dannox: yeah and they dont mean as much for GPU side stuff anyways
[1:51] <bkboggy> Have any of you guys tried Go? I'm curious...but not enough to invest into.
[1:51] <blockh34d> python benchmarks that is
[1:51] <blockh34d> bkboggy: i keep thinking about it... that's googles baby right?
[1:52] <blockh34d> kinda like javascript?
[1:52] <bkboggy> blockh34d: Yep
[1:52] <blockh34d> yeah i like javascript, and webgl, so maybe
[1:52] <blockh34d> googles kinda pissing me off lately though
[1:52] <bkboggy> how come
[1:52] <Brod> whats Go?
[1:52] <blockh34d> greedy
[1:52] <Dannox> Greed is good
[1:52] <a_pen9uin> Anyone know of some stripped down raspbian images to use? I'd like to use my pi as a headless server and don't want xorg taking up space
[1:52] <Dannox> Stupid is what they're being right now.
[1:52] <bkboggy> Brod: http://golang.org/
[1:52] <blockh34d> and they keep puttin gtheir corporate interests above my interests as a user
[1:52] <Brod> ta
[1:52] <Dannox> Try arch if you want minimal
[1:52] <blockh34d> greed is not good
[1:53] <blockh34d> money is basically a big lie
[1:53] <Dannox> If you do what the user wants, you keep cusomters
[1:53] <blockh34d> greed is just obsessive worship of that lie
[1:53] <Dannox> Google is just having bad business sense right now
[1:53] <bkboggy> he said sense
[1:53] <bkboggy> heh
[1:53] <bkboggy> Google sense
[1:53] <a_pen9uin> I'm actually on an arch linux desktop but was hoping for stabablitiy of debian for my pi
[1:53] <blockh34d> i have 0 stability issues with my rpi
[1:54] <blockh34d> monthes at a time without a reboot and even then its usually just something like the power blinked off etc
[1:54] <blockh34d> i run stock raspbian, no problems
[1:54] <pksato> a_pen9uin: remove what you not need packages from raspbian.
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[1:54] <Dannox> I used to have a lot of problems with disk hanging, but I switched from usb hard drive to flash stick and seemed to fix it.
[1:55] <blockh34d> Dannox: usb hard drive could have been pulling too much current
[1:55] <Dannox> That's my guess.
[1:55] <blockh34d> moving parts and all
[1:55] <blockh34d> a powered hub may help with that, in the future
[1:56] <bkboggy> why not just store data on nas?
[1:56] <Dannox> Yeah, it's on my list of things to get
[1:56] <Dannox> The pi was meant to be the nas.
[1:56] <blockh34d> Dannox: i got a powered hub and i like it a lot with the PI... lets me have an unlimited amount of stuff plugged in
[1:56] <blockh34d> now if only the pi worked with my drawing tablet
[1:56] <blockh34d> it would be so awesome
[1:56] <Dannox> Yeah, I'll buy one soon enough, just not a priority atm
[1:56] <bkboggy> blockh34d: Can't you attach a touchscreen?
[1:56] <Dannox> Currently working on building a proper server.
[1:57] <blockh34d> bkboggy: its not pressure sensitve so its not the same
[1:57] <bkboggy> i see
[1:57] <Dannox> http://imgur.com/xKnMA93
[1:57] <blockh34d> maybe if i made a custom pressure sensitive stylus
[1:57] <bkboggy> Dannox: nice setup
[1:57] <blockh34d> and could hook into the mouse driver somehow... kinda out of my paygrade though
[1:57] <Dannox> Coworker thinks I should go dual amd, but I'm not able to source any, would have to get local stores to order it in
[1:58] <bkboggy> Dannox: I went cheap with a Synology DS213j and two 3TB WD Reds
[1:58] <bkboggy> over 180 days up thus far since i got it
[1:59] <Dannox> Yeah, looking to do a bit more than nas with this setup though
[1:59] <bkboggy> ah
[1:59] <bkboggy> blockh34d: What drawing tablet do you have?
[1:59] <Dannox> Run a few instances of CentOS in Kvm, vpn, torrents, testing server for web/db, mercurial/git, etc.
[2:00] <bkboggy> Dannox: Right on. I only wanted it as a storage box.. tired of relying on dropbox and such.
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[2:01] <blockh34d> bkboggy: g-pen 560
[2:01] <Dannox> Yeah, use google drive for most of that stuff here.
[2:01] <blockh34d> btw another reason not to use touch screen is i want big screen tv sized preview
[2:01] <blockh34d> i have a small android tablet i draw on... its ok but i'd rather a big image and pressure sensitive stylus
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[2:02] <bkboggy> Dannox: Well, if it was just little stuff it'd be okay, but my wife filled up over 200GB with photos and videos already
[2:02] <bkboggy> all day every day click click click click... women
[2:02] <Dannox> Damn. so you bought a nas box for your pron?
[2:02] <bkboggy> blockh34d: I have a Wacom tablet... i wonder if it'll work
[2:03] <bkboggy> Dannox: lol, that's be a lot of pron
[2:03] <Dannox> There was wacom support in the latest ubuntu if I remember correctly.
[2:03] <blockh34d> bkboggy: i could get basic mouse functionality but no pressure sensitive action happening... good luck, if you can get it work, lemme know please
[2:03] <Dannox> Based on debian, so you might get lucky
[2:03] <blockh34d> i'd really like to expand the rpi's artistic capabilities
[2:03] <bkboggy> blockh34d: I'm going to give it a try right now
[2:03] <blockh34d> gl!
[2:04] <bkboggy> how do i boot into desktop mode?
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[2:05] <Dannox> raspi config can set it to boot straight to desktop I think, otherwise you could create an init script
[2:05] <bkboggy> oh, i was hoping there was a command to reboot to desktop
[2:05] <bkboggy> since i can access desktop from tightvnc
[2:06] <bkboggy> but using wacom from my pc using tightvnc is cheating
[2:06] <blockh34d> bkboggy: yes i think so too, i've tried it and it works but its laggy and less than optimal
[2:06] <Dannox> There might be, I've never tried to do something like that, though.
[2:07] <bkboggy> it's okay, i'll just edit config
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[2:08] <Dannox> I don't think vnc would transmit pressure
[2:08] <blockh34d> it doesnt but i use the tablet plugged into the host computer
[2:08] <bkboggy> hmm, gotta find drivers for wacom first
[2:08] <blockh34d> then watch it from rpi enabled output device
[2:08] <blockh34d> if it was lagless, it'd almost be good enough
[2:08] <bkboggy> won't detect it
[2:09] <blockh34d> yeah i had to do some weirdness to get my tablet working at all
[2:09] <blockh34d> i forget what now
[2:10] <bkboggy> i'll try this: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=squeeze&section=all&arch=any&searchon=all&keywords=wacom
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[2:39] <bkboggy> blockh34d: sorry, no luck on my end
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[2:44] <blockh34d> bkboggy: ah well thanks for the update
[2:44] <blockh34d> i wish i knew driver architecture better i'd just write my own
[2:44] <bkboggy> same here
[2:45] <blockh34d> but thats just magical unicorn dust to me right now
[2:45] <bkboggy> heh
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[2:47] <blockh34d> woot, took 8 hours but i printed out a squirrel cage fan :)
[2:47] <blockh34d> gonna try to run it off an old cd drive motor
[2:47] <bkboggy> 3d printer?
[2:47] <blockh34d> yup, prusa i3v
[2:48] <blockh34d> just built it last week
[2:48] <ShorTie> i don't think you will get much from packages.debian.org that will run on a rPi, not compiled right
[2:48] <bkboggy> i want one.. but i'm not willing to spend $500-$2500 right now
[2:49] <bkboggy> i still need to finish my 4'x8' CNC mill
[2:49] <bkboggy> been sitting there for 4 years now
[2:49] <bkboggy> scratch that, 5
[2:49] <blockh34d> a cnc is something i want to build next
[2:50] <blockh34d> my goal is to use the 3d printer to print out what i can't buy otherwise for a cnc
[2:50] <blockh34d> like the rods and steppers and stuff, of course i'll buy that
[2:50] <bkboggy> i bought a kit from Joe's while I was in the Navy, he gave me a good discount
[2:50] <blockh34d> how much? 4'x8' is crazy huge
[2:50] <bkboggy> it was $400 for the kit, plus i had to buy all the hardware
[2:50] <bkboggy> gecko drive, steppers, etc
[2:51] <blockh34d> my printer kit was $570 from makerfarm
[2:51] <blockh34d> 8" cube for output
[2:51] <bkboggy> i have the top one: http://joescnc.com/themachines.php
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[2:51] <bkboggy> they're cheaper now
[2:51] <bkboggy> since there's a lot more available on the market
[2:51] <blockh34d> pretty sweet looking
[2:52] <bkboggy> it's alright
[2:52] <bkboggy> mostly MDF
[2:52] <blockh34d> i guess a kit would be a good way to start but i kinda want to make my own everything
[2:52] <bkboggy> so lots of reinforcement is required
[2:52] <blockh34d> as much as possible
[2:52] <bkboggy> i suggest going with extruded aluminum
[2:52] <bkboggy> there are tons of plans available
[2:52] <bkboggy> on cnc zone
[2:52] <blockh34d> yes i like the vslot you can get at openbuilds
[2:52] <blockh34d> its very nice
[2:52] <bkboggy> there you go: http://www.cnczone.com/
[2:52] <blockh34d> also i was thinking of a core-xy setup
[2:52] <blockh34d> but i'm not sure if its strong enough
[2:53] <blockh34d> thanks cool i'll check that out
[2:53] <bkboggy> that community has been around for a long time, if you do end up going cnc route, it's a good place to start
[2:53] <blockh34d> do you go to #diycnc ?
[2:53] <blockh34d> its pretty cool
[2:53] <bkboggy> no, i didn't know it exists
[2:53] <blockh34d> sounds like a chan you would like
[2:54] <bkboggy> seems pretty empty
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[2:54] <bkboggy> that open builds website you mentioned is very neat
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[2:55] <blockh34d> bkboggy: yes i like it a lot
[2:55] <bkboggy> once i finish my mill, i want to make a laser one for RC
[2:55] <blockh34d> i'm not sure what its status is, long term though, from what i understand there was some sort of falling out or somethin gwith the managment
[2:55] <blockh34d> that vslot extrusion may not be available for long
[2:56] <blockh34d> i'm going to stock up
[2:56] <bkboggy> are we talking about the same website? http://www.openbuilds.com/
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[2:57] <blockh34d> yeah i usually just go righ tto the parts store
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[2:57] <bkboggy> ah
[2:57] <bkboggy> they have 20% off right now for father's day
[2:58] <blockh34d> http://openbuildspartstore.com/black-v-slot-20-x-20mm/
[2:58] <blockh34d> good stuff
[2:58] <blockh34d> if i didnt just blow a brake line maybe i'd get something
[2:58] <blockh34d> but i expect to have some unfortunate expenses tomorrow buying parts to fix my trucks brakes
[2:58] <blockh34d> too bad i can't rpint new ones.. yet
[3:00] <bkboggy> paying premium for the color though
[3:00] <blockh34d> once you go black...
[3:00] <bkboggy> oh no
[3:00] <blockh34d> lol
[3:00] <blockh34d> its just a buck more. i only copied the link cause it was first in the list, i'd probably get the non-blued
[3:01] <bkboggy> i think they're a bit overpriocied though
[3:01] <bkboggy> 24 for a nema 23 motor
[3:01] <bkboggy> i can get half that on ebay
[3:01] <bkboggy> overpriced*
[3:01] <blockh34d> yah i'm only there for the rails
[3:02] <blockh34d> the rest is probably a rip off
[3:02] <blockh34d> also wheels to match the rails i guess
[3:02] <blockh34d> can't wait till i can make a stepper
[3:02] <bkboggy> make a stepper?
[3:02] <blockh34d> i'd like to never buy another thing from china until they stop with the slavery
[3:03] <blockh34d> bkboggy: its already happening... someone got stepper like motion out of a brushless dc motor... it steps, but still big ol 7 degree steps
[3:03] <blockh34d> but other than the wire and the magnets, its all printed
[3:03] <bkboggy> hmm
[3:03] <bkboggy> printed metal?
[3:03] <blockh34d> no all plastic
[3:04] <bkboggy> sounds like it'll have some flex? or is it just me
[3:04] <bkboggy> i can see it being okay for a servo with metal gearing
[3:04] <bkboggy> but a stepper on a cnc... even that metal shaft won't do much
[3:04] <bkboggy> if the rest is plastic (as far as casing and structure)
[3:06] <bkboggy> this is what i have for my stepper control by the way: http://www.geckodrive.com/geckodrive-step-motor-drives/g540.html
[3:06] <blockh34d> http://hackaday.com/2013/04/13/working-3d-printed-stepper-motor/
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[3:06] <blockh34d> its not really a stepper
[3:06] <blockh34d> thats covered pretty thoroughly in the comments
[3:06] <blockh34d> but its really close to stepper-like functionality
[3:07] <bkboggy> blockh34d: but doesn't seem like it'll be able to push much without breaking
[3:07] <bkboggy> being all plastic, even the shaft portion
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[3:08] <bkboggy> i'm sure they'll find a fix later on
[3:08] <blockh34d> yah baby steps
[3:08] <blockh34d> thats already very useful even low torque
[3:09] <bkboggy> the thing is though... you'll still end up buying chinese-made parts for it
[3:09] <blockh34d> like what?
[3:09] <bkboggy> electronics
[3:09] <blockh34d> few transistors, lots of places to get em
[3:10] <bkboggy> very few are non-chinese
[3:10] <blockh34d> baby steps
[3:10] <blockh34d> first steppers, then robotic hands, then the hands will make whatever we tell them to
[3:10] <bkboggy> then skynet
[3:10] <bkboggy> o.O
[3:10] <blockh34d> yes
[3:10] <blockh34d> maybe more hands
[3:11] <blockh34d> i hope to make self replicating robots some day
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[3:11] <blockh34d> that hunt down all military equipment of any kind and instantly dismantle it and recycle it into more of the same kind of robot
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[3:11] <bkboggy> lol
[3:11] <blockh34d> i will unleash them on the world like a plague
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[3:12] <bkboggy> i'm going to eat, i'll be back later on
[3:12] <blockh34d> enjoy, cya
[3:12] <bkboggy> thanks, cya
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[3:48] <BetaSoul> Any one know where I can get a tiny (lets say two ish inches) male to female ribon cable. I want to not have to open my case so I can I play with the GPIO.
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[3:51] <pksato> BetaSoul: some store can build custom IDC cable.
[3:51] <blockh34d> BetaSoul: maybe you could take an old ide cable and cut off the long end? should end up with a fairly short ribbon cable with compatibly sized holes in the connectors
[3:52] <blockh34d> not sure how many of the leads are shared on multiple ports of one cable though
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[3:52] <BetaSoul> blockh34d: The trouble with that is that the GPIO needs to be amazingly slow to case. I'm looking for to move to ports to outside the case.
[3:52] <blockh34d> also i think you can get those connectors in a form that basically just clicks on... make your own cable
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[3:53] <BetaSoul> pksato: Do you know where I can find the exact specs? I'll ask if the local shop can cut my ca cable.
[3:54] <pksato> BetaSoul: IDC connector and flat cable, 26 wires.
[3:55] <BetaSoul> Awesome. I'll just have to hunt around for the parts I need.
[3:55] <pksato> 2.54 mm pitch
[3:56] <BetaSoul> Hrm.... now just to find a location taht sells them in lots of less than 50.
[3:57] <blockh34d> still not sure why an old ide cable wouldnt work but ok
[3:57] <blockh34d> it might even be the same number of pins i dont remember
[3:57] <BetaSoul> 1) Don't have any.
[3:57] <pksato> flat cables or ribbon cables
[3:59] <blockh34d> BetaSoul: there shyould be a couple in any old computer
[3:59] <blockh34d> i just ripped an old unused floppy drive cable off a junmk machine here to test
[3:59] <BetaSoul> Went rhough about a year ago and trashed all the old cables I had. An all my new builds have been sata.
[3:59] <BetaSoul> I really don't have any old cables.
[4:01] <pksato> need a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_cable
[4:01] <pksato> and not a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_flat_cable
[4:02] <blockh34d> yep floppy cable fits nice
[4:02] <blockh34d> 4 extra ports hanging off the side, guess those need cut off
[4:02] <blockh34d> also i think floppy maybe less than idea since it does a weird th ing flipping part of the ccable over at one port, so some wires are going to be mismatched one port vs the other
[4:02] <blockh34d> but i dont htink ide HD cables do that
[4:05] <pksato> dont use 80 wire ide cable. some pins are inter connected.
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[4:06] <blockh34d> yeah i think the floppy cables are too
[4:06] <blockh34d> something weird going on with this one anyways
[4:08] <ShorTie> i use old floppie cables all the time
[4:08] <blockh34d> do yours have four of the wires flipped on one side?
[4:09] <[Saint]> That is somewhat a thing of the past.
[4:09] <blockh34d> yeah this is a really old machine i just grabbed that from
[4:09] <[Saint]> The hardware has been able to autodetect this and compensate for it for some time now.
[4:09] <[Saint]> (meaning no need for the old style crazy flipped cables)
[4:10] <[Saint]> Patch cables are also a thing of the past.
[4:10] <[Saint]> This has been handled by the hardware for an age now too - but, people still sell network patch cables, ...sigh.
[4:15] <blockh34d> i'll be sure to tell the trashheap i got this computer from to update its inventory
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[4:32] <ltedcoai> Is there a way to disable the LED lights on the rpi?
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[4:33] <Brod> I think so Itedcoal, maybe not the power one, you could always cut the tracks though
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[4:33] <Brod> Itedcoai *
[4:33] <Brod> omg. ltedcoai
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[4:34] <ltedcoai> I might just put electrical tape over them and then write something to put a larger led on the GPIO pins and show network activity
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[4:37] <blockh34d> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19863723/turn-off-leds-of-raspberry-pi
[4:38] <blockh34d> it'll only work for some of the led's though, not all
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[4:38] <blockh34d> the power led is wired directly to the rail i guess, so good luck disabling that one without voiding your warranty
[4:39] <ltedcoai> has a warranty ever been used?
[4:39] <ltedcoai> or do people just go "screw it, this was only $35, ill buy another"
[4:41] <blockh34d> warrantys are for cowards scared of getting their hands dirty, imo
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[5:37] <MassDivide> I Need some help with my raspberry pi, anyone help?
[5:41] <blockh34d> explain please
[5:41] <blockh34d> MassDivide ^
[5:43] <MassDivide> I'm using coovachilli and haserl, for some reason haserl is installed, but claims it is not.
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[5:45] <blockh34d> i am unfamiliar with either of those
[5:45] <[Saint]> 'which haserl'
[5:45] <[Saint]> MassDivide: ^
[5:46] <MassDivide> . /usr/local/bin/haserl
[5:47] <MassDivide> haserl CGI error, failed to open file =
[5:47] <[Saint]> Well...its definitely in the default $PATH
[5:47] <[Saint]> So, the system should be entirely aware of it.
[5:47] <MassDivide> then it spins the whole sourceforge system
[5:47] <MassDivide> i've tried 3 versions of it.
[5:49] <MassDivide> and # /etc/chilli/wwsh > line 9 is set to > haserl = /user/local/bin/haserl
[5:49] <MassDivide> wwwsh*
[5:50] <MassDivide> haserl -v spins 0.9.33 as its version
[5:50] <MassDivide> and the liblua dependancy is met
[5:50] <MassDivide> [Saint], any thoughts?
[5:51] <[Saint]> The "failed to open file =" part, to me, suggests that there's some env var somewhere you're supposed to set but didn't.
[5:51] <[Saint]> And it is unhappy with a blank value.
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[5:52] <blockh34d> maybe you need to touch the correct file name first, to create it and establish permissions
[5:52] <blockh34d> i have no idea what hasserl or coovachilli do though
[5:52] <MassDivide> do you think it could be because of files location, the lighthttpd could be being picky
[5:52] <MassDivide> about perms?
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[5:53] <blockh34d> MassDivide: line 9 is set to haserl = /USER or /USR?
[5:54] <[Saint]> To be perfectly honest, I'd throw it away - its wildly insecure and to the best of my knowledge the developers don't seem to care at all.
[5:54] <MassDivide> it was at /usr/
[5:54] <MassDivide> that was my typo
[5:54] <blockh34d> oh ok
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[5:55] <MassDivide> i'm not concerned with security, there is just no alternative from what i've seen with a complete guide
[5:55] <MassDivide> I followed a guide step by step, double and triple check it, and still this error.
[5:55] <MassDivide> there is something odd
[5:56] <MassDivide> with the /usr/local/bin/haserl
[5:56] <MassDivide> local is green
[5:56] <[Saint]> Well, if you're aware that an attacker can create a document that will could overwrite local env vars, and then go on to priv escalation and arbitrary execution, and you're fine with that...then, ok, I guess...
[5:56] <MassDivide> I'm not concerned with "an attacker"
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[5:57] <MassDivide> if you want me to put it simply, this is only a third layer of security
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[5:58] <blockh34d> RaptorJesus: i've made a nice statue of jesus riding a dinosaur, i plan to scan it in soon, post it on thingiverse
[5:59] <[Saint]> I would be investigating your the env vars specific to haserl. The error seems to imply that it is looking for a value it expects to be non-blank.
[5:59] <blockh34d> RaptorJesus: your nick makes me thinkyou'd like it
[5:59] <[Saint]> As in, its not "failed to open file this_file.txt" its failed to open "=", which obviously isn't going to work.
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[6:10] <RaptorJesus> blockh34d: of course
[6:11] <blockh34d> i keep wondering what to have him carrying, i guess the shepherds staff is pretty safe bet
[6:11] <blockh34d> but i feel like an m16 would also be good
[6:11] <blockh34d> may be i'll just give him the old 'battle action kung fu grip' and let the user pick
[6:11] * [Saint] votes for "massive phallus"
[6:11] * blockh34d makes a note of it
[6:12] <blockh34d> that's 4 for massive phallus
[6:12] <RaptorJesus> https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8337/8164566581_139f718f9f_z.jpg
[6:12] <blockh34d> lol nice
[6:12] <blockh34d> i though a light saber might be nice too
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[6:13] <RaptorJesus> hehe
[6:13] * blockh34d glues his freshly printed squirrel cage fan together with the last of his glue
[6:14] <blockh34d> i keep thinking 'this tube of glue is done' but for weeks now its always had just al ittle bit left in it
[6:14] <RaptorJesus> are you trying to rodent power your Raspberry Pi too?
[6:14] <RaptorJesus> http://www.otherpower.com/hamster.html
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[6:17] <blockh34d> haha awesome
[6:17] <blockh34d> no but my dogs are bored, dont really do anything, maybe its time they start earning their keep aroun dhere
[6:17] <[Saint]> http://gfycat.com/GrandioseBruisedEmeraldtreeskink#
[6:18] <blockh34d> lol looks like a rave
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[6:28] <[Saint]> http://gifsound.com/?gif=i.imgur.com/Eiaha.gif&v=tiRUT80pBBU&s=14
[6:29] <[Saint]> Surprisingly, to me at least, techno-gospel is rather easy to find.
[6:29] <[Saint]> And abundant.
[6:31] <blockh34d> its going to the music i'm playing here in a creepy way
[6:31] <[Saint]> Raptor Jesus is among us.
[6:32] <[Saint]> Praise him.
[6:32] * RaptorJesus blesses the channel
[6:32] * blockh34d watches for the disco lights to show up
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[6:33] <[Saint]> unn-tsch unn-tsch unn-tsch unn-tsch!
[6:33] <blockh34d> it'd be a sweet dj persona
[6:33] <blockh34d> DJ RAPTOR JESUS
[6:33] <blockh34d> jsut wear the mask and the kids will go apeshit
[6:35] <[Saint]> Well...it worked for deadmau5
[6:49] <blockh34d> yeah and he's not even a meme
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[8:30] <fishcooker> i have a 4GB class 4 sd card but on the documentation "... We recommend an 8GB class 4 SD card...."
[8:31] <fishcooker> i have a 4GB class 4 sd card but on the documentation "... We recommend an 8GB class 4 SD card...." what will happen?
[8:36] <gordonDrogon> morning Pi Peeps!
[8:37] <ltedcoai> fishcooker: nothing, you just wont have space for much
[8:37] <gordonDrogon> fishcooker, nothing. you just won't have much space left over for your own code, but the GB or so left over on a 4G card is more than enough to get you going.
[8:38] <gordonDrogon> nearly all my SDs are 4GB.
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[8:38] <pl> Hi. I'm trying to compile the kernel on my rpi (running raspbian). I downloaded the kernel source, use raspbian's .config, added the kernel module I needed and built the .deb kernel package.
[8:38] <pl> The problem is that the arch for this package is armel, while the system is armhf
[8:38] <pl> what did I do wrong?
[8:38] <ltedcoai> gordonDrogon: you still using windows for your every day usage?
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[8:40] <ltedcoai> fishcooker: I've only used 2.3G on my 16GB card, and that's after installing a lot of stuff
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[8:43] <swiss> people don't know how to appreciate megabytes anymore
[8:43] <swiss> I REMEMBER THE DAYS
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[8:45] <blockh34d> ^5
[8:45] * blockh34d remembers the ways
[8:46] * blockh34d learned on a 4.77mhz 8086 XT w/ 640k RAM and a 10mb harddrive
[8:48] * tz still continues to play with AVRs running at 2MHz with 512B ram and 8K flash *shrug*
[8:48] <swiss> I'm not *that* old
[8:49] <gordonDrogon> ltedcoai, windows?
[8:49] <swiss> I just remember refusing to install a video game because it took up way too much of my HDD.... It took up over a gig!
[8:49] <blockh34d> swiss: yeah back in my day all the discs were square because we hadnt invented the wheel yet
[8:49] <ltedcoai> gordonDrogon: yes, I recall you were a big windows fan
[8:49] <gordonDrogon> ltedcoai, you're thinking of someone else. I have never used windows.
[8:49] <swiss> blockh34d: i believe it.
[8:50] <blockh34d> now we have smurf shaped discs... whatever
[8:50] <gordonDrogon> well. X windows, but not MS nor Apple windowing systems.
[8:50] <swiss> i was born with the 3.5" floppy
[8:50] <swiss> I never experienced the 5.25" floppy
[8:50] <gordonDrogon> swiss, http://unicorn.drogon.net/lode.jpg
[8:50] <ltedcoai> gordonDrogon: Aren't you gordonjcp?
[8:50] <swiss> but I still am like "Oh, that's plenty of space" when I see I have 200 MB left on something
[8:50] <blockh34d> 360k, Double sided, Double density
[8:50] <gordonDrogon> ltedcoai, no - I'm gordonDrogon
[8:50] <swiss> gordonDrogon: lol
[8:51] <blockh34d> http://www.usb-flashdrive.com/us/blog/wp-content/uploads//Smurf-USB-Custom-Flash-Drive.jpg
[8:51] <gordonDrogon> swiss, the old Apple II disks had 130KB capacity.
[8:51] <swiss> nice!
[8:51] <blockh34d> those smurf shaped discs are probably the equivelant to a tall buildings worth of floppy disks
[8:51] <swiss> lol
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[8:52] <swiss> scary to think you can actually fill something up wtih the source code for a program
[8:52] <blockh34d> it made game development very challengeing
[8:52] <blockh34d> holy shit was wolfenstein3d magical in its day
[8:52] <blockh34d> a whole new world
[8:53] <blockh34d> of course everyone knew about 3d, that wasnt so new, but realtime, on common hardware, with guns, and nazis! awesome.
[8:53] <blockh34d> not that nazis are awesome but you gotta shoot someone, might as well be nazi's, i guess
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[8:58] <blockh34d> i'm just glad i had nothing at all to do with punchcards or punchtape
[8:58] <blockh34d> fuck all that, forever
[8:58] <gordonDrogon> blockh34d, family friendly please.
[8:59] <blockh34d> oh sorry wrong chan forgot i was in rpi chan
[8:59] <blockh34d> yah i'm not family friendly kinda guy, if i was i wouldnt be on irc all day
[8:59] <blockh34d> cya
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[8:59] <gordonDrogon> computing was just as exciting in the day of punch tape and cards.
[8:59] <gordonDrogon> differernt, but just as exciting. mostly because it was all so new.
[8:59] <gordonDrogon> just like the Pi is new to us today.
[9:00] <[Saint]> Man..."family friendly" is just so...vague. :-/
[9:00] <[Saint]> As far as I'm concerned, if it flies on prime time television, that's family friendly.
[9:01] <gordonDrogon> [Saint], prime time doesn't have profanity.
[9:02] <[Saint]> No, you're right, because its not profanity.
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[9:04] <treeherder> hey guys
[9:05] <[Saint]> "In other English-speaking countries, such as Canada, the United Kingdom, the Republic of Ireland, Australia and New Zealand the word is allowed to be used in broadcast television by the regulative councils of each area, as long as it is used in late hours when young people are not expected to be watching."
[9:05] <treeherder> is there a gpio pin that is configured to generate a clock signal
[9:05] <gordonDrogon> treeherder, there is a gpio pin that can be configured to generate a clock
[9:05] <[Saint]> Though, "late hours" I question somewhat, as NZ apparently considerd 1900 "late"
[9:05] <treeherder> kids shouldn't watch tv anyways
[9:06] <treeherder> gordonDrogon, you don't say? which one? :P
[9:06] <gordonDrogon> treeherder, it's bcm_gpio 4, or wiringPi 7
[9:06] <gordonDrogon> gpio mode 7 clock
[9:06] <gordonDrogon> gpio clock 7 1000000
[9:06] <treeherder> thank you very much, i'll google a bit maybe come back with some more questions
[9:06] <treeherder> oh excellent
[9:06] <gordonDrogon> (I think - from memory - it's been a while since I used it!)
[9:07] <gordonDrogon> but also lookup the Pi FM radio thingy - that uses it too.
[9:07] <treeherder> is that pin 4 on the header
[9:07] <[Saint]> Ooooooooooooohhhhhh....holy...
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[9:08] <[Saint]> I should probably stop blocking the neighbors radio with an endless loop of yakkety sax.
[9:08] <gordonDrogon> P1:4, etc.
[9:08] <[Saint]> PiFM talk reminded me. Whoops.
[9:08] <[Saint]> That's been going for months.
[9:09] <[Saint]> Hahaha, yep, still broadcasting.
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[9:10] <[Saint]> Damn, that was unnecessarily evil. They probably think they're cursed.
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[9:35] <hforjehikiasq6n2> Anyone have any experience with full disk encryption on the pi with arch? I have it working, but I can't get it to let me type the passphrase in over the serial console. I have to plug in a keyboard. :(
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[10:05] <chunkyhead> is there any module/hardware by which i can capture brain waves in a non invasive way. id like to link it to a raspberry pi
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[10:14] <anev> l_r: completed the build yesterday. first run errored out so attempted a second time.. it was missing the devtree.dat file from the build so i built one manually
[10:14] <anev> l_r: i'll try the image later today and let you know how it goes
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[10:15] <anev> l_r: looks like the latest head of freeebsd has moved some of the dts/dtb files around :)
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[11:24] <treeherder> gordonDrogon, according to my scope your gpio clock command was dead on thanks
[11:25] <treeherder> but one quick question, what's the unit /scalar
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[11:25] <treeherder> when you did [00:06:47] <gordonDrogon> gpio clock 7 1000000
[11:25] <treeherder> is that 1 ghz?
[11:25] <gordonDrogon> 1MHz.
[11:25] <treeherder> oh
[11:25] <treeherder> lol
[11:25] <treeherder> ok
[11:25] <treeherder> and is there a limit then on the speed?
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> the limit with the way I've done it is 19.2MHz
[11:26] <treeherder> thank you
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> although if you reprogram the clock source it can go up to 100's of MHz I think.
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> I just use the default gpio clock of 19.2MHz
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[11:42] <Roostmax> Looking for some guidance on a vpn client for pi please
[11:42] <Roostmax> Essentially, have a cloud server setup with static IP address
[11:42] <Roostmax> Would like to VPN from pi to this
[11:43] <Roostmax> I usualy SSH into pi
[11:43] <gordonDrogon> the first question is wht vpn do you want to use - you have a choice of several.
[11:43] <Roostmax> but when run VPN, I seem to loose all access
[11:43] <Roostmax> Trying this route...
[11:43] <Roostmax> http://devtidbits.com/2013/02/19/using-a-point-to-point-tunnelling-protocol-virtual-private-network-pptp-vpn-client-on-a-raspberry-pi/
[11:43] <gordonDrogon> is the idea to be able to connect to the Pi (behind a NAT gateway?) from the VPS?
[11:43] <Roostmax> Yeh, need to be able to connect to the pi without changing ports etc
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> is the VPS running Linux?
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[11:44] <Roostmax> Um, currently its a mac for test purposes
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> ok. can't help there I'm afraid. maybe someone else can.
[11:44] <Roostmax> Is that critical?
[11:45] <gordonDrogon> to me, yes - I only know about Linux VPNs.
[11:45] <Roostmax> Yeh, I understand
[11:45] <Roostmax> Its not really important to be a max, but all I have access to currently
[11:45] <Roostmax> *mac
[11:46] <Roostmax> I suppose I could setup a virtual box for linux
[11:47] <Roostmax> But surely the point of a vpn is that it doesnt care which box the server is??
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[11:47] <gordonDrogon> probably - but then you need to run the same type of vpn on each end - and as I mentioned, you have a choice (of dozens).
[11:48] <Roostmax> Hmmm
[11:48] <Roostmax> Maube I dont fully understand VPN then
[11:48] <gordonDrogon> the simplest might be a reverse ssh tunnel if all you need is remote ssh access.
[11:48] <Roostmax> Beucase I thought it was just a protocol
[11:48] <anev> Roostmax: i assume you're using the mac's inbuilt vpn software?
[11:48] <gordonDrogon> VPN is a geenric term.
[11:48] <gordonDrogon> *generic
[11:48] <plugwash> VPN is just a concept, there are many realisations of that concept
[11:48] <gordonDrogon> there are dozens of implementations.
[11:49] <anev> tbh, i'd probably recommend openvpn to start with
[11:49] * plugwash agrees with anev
[11:49] <anev> it's supported on mac and i believe there may be a port available using homebrew alreayd.
[11:49] <Roostmax> OK, that might be the route to follow then
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> If running Linux to Linux, I'd recommend vtun as it's lightweight, trivial to setup and can be run without encryption - a bonus on the Pi as encryption can slow things down a bit.
[11:49] <plugwash> anyway I suspect your problem is you are sending the default route down your vpn, that's nessacery if you are using a VPN for internet access but it's a bad idea in most other scenarios
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[11:50] <Roostmax> Yeh, took a look at VTUN from your previous recomendation
[11:50] <plugwash> but that's just an educated guess
[11:50] <Roostmax> “default route”??
[11:51] <anev> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5538749?tstart=0
[11:51] <anev> just fyi.
[11:51] <Roostmax> Cheers
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[11:52] <Roostmax> OK, so maybe I should also say that the mac is just the current environment, and eventually itll move to an external server which will likely be a linux box
[11:52] <Roostmax> So probably look for a solution that will work for both
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[11:56] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: what is it that you actually want to achieve
[11:56] <chunkyhead> vpn could also be implemented using ssh. change proxy settings on the client and you have a new ip
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[11:57] <Roostmax> Firstly, how do I direct message- sorry new here guys
[11:57] <chunkyhead> you can either pm(private message) for that type /msg *username*
[11:57] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: I want to be able to boot up the pi and be able to access the device from an app
[11:57] <chunkyhead> or you can type *username* and message
[11:58] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: keep your pi always on. it doesn't eat much power
[11:58] <Roostmax> So, from gordonDrogon’s suggestion, I am looking at VPN
[11:58] <chunkyhead> not exactly. if you just want to access the pi. ssh is enough
[11:59] <Roostmax> Well, I am trying to build a service that can be portable
[11:59] <shiftplusone_uk> Roostmax: ssh works great for remote access. What would you like to do once you're in? ConnectBot is a good ssh client for android. There's also vnc, for the graphical stuff.
[11:59] <chunkyhead> ssh clients are available on more or less all OS
[11:59] <chunkyhead> shiftplusone_uk: i prefer juicessh on android, gives me option for mosh.
[11:59] <chunkyhead> mosh* as well
[12:00] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: PS: type the first few characters to someone
[12:00] <chunkyhead> 'someone's username and press tab for autocomplete
[12:00] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: Ahhh
[12:01] <chunkyhead> :)
[12:01] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: So, I am working on a product that I want to be able to distribute
[12:01] <Roostmax> An link to a mobile app
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[12:02] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: User shouldnt be technical
[12:02] <chunkyhead> very much possible by ssh. provided your apps can ssh.
[12:02] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: see ssh won
[12:02] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: So looking for a uiversal solution
[12:02] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: OK, so describe the process?
[12:02] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: Pi boots up
[12:02] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: you need to create a new user, so you can restrict access to the user
[12:03] <chunkyhead> that disables them from being able to mess up the device
[12:03] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: sure
[12:03] <chunkyhead> with the correct configuration that is..
[12:04] <chunkyhead> you provide the users with the username and password (>1 person can login from the same account at a time)
[12:04] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: So how do I know the IP address of the PI with this method?
[12:04] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: Becuase user may be outside of their local network
[12:05] <chunkyhead> use no-ip
[12:05] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: and seems a bit clunky to run static IP and dyndns on each pi
[12:05] <chunkyhead> or other similar services
[12:05] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: does your ISP give you a static ip or is it dynamic?
[12:06] <Roostmax> Currently dynamic
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[12:06] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: but not sure this would be a scalable solution?
[12:07] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: you have 2 options. ask your ISP to provide you with a static ip. would cost you some $$
[12:07] <chunkyhead> other option is you can use no-ip or something like that
[12:07] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: ok, I understand the staic ip probelm...
[12:07] <Roostmax> but that doesnt solve the scalable issue
[12:08] <Roostmax> Imagine 100 devices
[12:08] <Roostmax> imagine 1000 devices
[12:08] <Roostmax> etc
[12:08] <chunkyhead> rpi wont be able to support so many lol
[12:08] <Elderx___> Roostmax: is your ips forcing ip change at certain intervalls, or only when you disconnect for long enough ?
[12:08] <Elderx___> isp*
[12:08] <chunkyhead> ^
[12:08] <chunkyhead> +1
[12:09] <Roostmax> Elderx___: seems tonly over certain intervals
[12:09] <chunkyhead> another option can be get the current ip and store it on a cloud service with a publicly accessible file
[12:09] <Elderx___> my isp will only change ip when my cable modem is offline for at least few days
[12:09] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: go on...
[12:10] <Elderx___> so, i had this same ip for few years now :D
[12:10] <Roostmax> Elderx___: mine has change twice today already
[12:10] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: how comforatble are you with scripting?
[12:10] <Elderx___> Roostmax: >.<
[12:10] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: pretty comfortable
[12:10] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: with that dynamicity, your ssh will break
[12:10] <chunkyhead> any service for that matter will break
[12:10] <Elderx___> mosh <3
[12:11] <Roostmax> chunkyhead:
[12:11] <Roostmax> Here was my idea
[12:11] <Roostmax> from gordonDrogon
[12:11] <chunkyhead> mosh is a good idea. i haven't used it though.
[12:11] <Roostmax> setup vpn on pi as client
[12:11] <Roostmax> Elderx___: mosh??
[12:11] <Elderx___> http://mosh.mit.edu/
[12:12] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: sister of ssh. maintains session even when IP changes
[12:12] <Roostmax> Ahh, thought you were referring to a user
[12:12] <chunkyhead> lol
[12:13] <Roostmax> Elderx___: that looks promising...
[12:13] <Elderx___> mosh is awesome when travelling
[12:13] <Roostmax> So here is my desired outcome...
[12:14] <Roostmax> I have a security system in my home
[12:14] <Roostmax> I powered it up
[12:14] <Roostmax> Opened their app
[12:14] <chunkyhead> Elderx___: mosh works even when both host and client change IP?
[12:14] <Roostmax> Added the mac address of the device
[12:14] <Roostmax> And now can send commands to the device from anywhere
[12:15] <Roostmax> So.. thats kinda how I want this to work
[12:15] <Elderx___> chunkyhead: hmm, not sure
[12:15] <Roostmax> Boot up the pi
[12:15] <Roostmax> Get the address somehow
[12:15] <Roostmax> and then be able to interact with the device from anywhere
[12:16] <Roostmax> as per gordonDrogon, I was investigating vpn...
[12:16] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: i'd go with ssh/mosh. but there are many other ways by which this can be achieved. i shall put some light on how i would do it
[12:16] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: *listening*
[12:17] <chunkyhead> hold on let me type
[12:17] <chunkyhead> it'll be a long list
[12:17] <Elderx___> wall of txt inc
[12:17] <chunkyhead> i will paste :p
[12:18] <Roostmax> lol
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[12:19] <chunkyhead> i mean use paste bin or something like that
[12:20] <Roostmax> um
[12:21] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652325/
[12:21] <chunkyhead> if you need me to elaborate let me know.
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[12:22] <Roostmax> So the big issue is the port forwarding
[12:22] <Roostmax> I dont really want a user to have to do any of that
[12:22] <chunkyhead> no no
[12:22] <Roostmax> Should be plug and play
[12:23] <chunkyhead> port forwarding is a 1 time thing bro. which you have to configure
[12:23] <Roostmax> Yeh, I understand
[12:23] <Roostmax> But thats the deal breaker
[12:23] <Roostmax> Imagine your mom trying to configure port forwarding?
[12:23] <Roostmax> Not gonna work
[12:23] <chunkyhead> oh wait, you're trying to sell this service to customers?
[12:23] <Roostmax> Eventually maybe
[12:24] <Roostmax> But for now its just portability
[12:24] <chunkyhead> yeah it wont work then
[12:24] <Roostmax> I cant port forward everywhere I setup the pi
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[12:24] <chunkyhead> yea
[12:25] <Roostmax> Does that kill the mosh idea then?
[12:25] <chunkyhead> yea
[12:25] <Roostmax> Doh
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[12:26] <Roostmax> ok, so back to vpn I suspect
[12:26] <chunkyhead> vpn would also require you to port forward i reckon
[12:26] <Roostmax> No, I dont think so
[12:26] <Roostmax> Becuase the cloud/server will have a static IP address
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[12:27] <chunkyhead> oh, you're using it as a centralised server?
[12:27] <Roostmax> Well, thats the only solution I can see
[12:27] <chunkyhead> wherever there's an rpi connected to a router, you will need to port forward.
[12:28] <Roostmax> why...
[12:28] <jacekowski> not if you are using VPN
[12:28] <Roostmax> if my server url is www.something.com
[12:28] <chunkyhead> dont take my answer to be the ultimate solution, i might be wrong
[12:28] <jacekowski> if RPI initiates connection to vpn server then you don't need any port forwarding
[12:28] <chunkyhead> in my opinion you will have to port forward
[12:28] <Roostmax> Surely I dont have to port forward to vpn into the server
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[12:28] <jacekowski> chunkyhead: no need for port forwarding
[12:28] <chunkyhead> jacekowski: that would kill the server
[12:28] <Roostmax> jacekowski: yeh, thats kinda where gordonDrogon sent me
[12:28] <jacekowski> chunkyhead: no it wouldn't
[12:29] <jacekowski> chunkyhead: vpn server can handle 1000s of connections
[12:29] <chunkyhead> 1000s of clients connecting. if he doesn't a decent machine.. boom..
[12:29] <Roostmax> We can assume hardware is sufficient
[12:29] <jacekowski> chunkyhead: it's all about traffic
[12:29] <chunkyhead> yea it should work.
[12:29] <chunkyhead> im sorry for wasting so much of your time just because i couldn't understand the problem.
[12:29] <chunkyhead> :\
[12:30] <jacekowski> chunkyhead: all VPN appliances are rated in Mbits or pps not in connections for a reason
[12:30] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: not watsed- I am exploring all options
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[12:31] <Roostmax> So.. I think I need to go down the openvpn route
[12:31] <Roostmax> and try that
[12:31] <jacekowski> yep
[12:31] <chunkyhead> rpis continously conntected to a server.. that server should have a static ip
[12:31] <jacekowski> chunkyhead: you could even work around that
[12:31] <chunkyhead> jacekowski: how
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[12:32] <jacekowski> dyndns.org
[12:32] <chunkyhead> (y)
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[12:40] <Roostmax> Yeh, thats the current setup tbh
[12:40] <Roostmax> well, with no-ip actually
[12:41] <Roostmax> So, now the goal is to connect with the pi to the server via static address
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[12:53] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: buy a server :p install ssh/mosh. ssh/mosh from rpi to server
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[12:56] <chunkyhead> for testing purpose http://www.cyberspace.org/ might help
[12:56] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: could I setup a consistent connect to a server at www.somewhere.com?
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[12:56] <Roostmax> so like: ssh test@somehwre.com
[12:56] <Roostmax> So then write a script to connect to the server on launch
[12:56] <chunkyhead> look up cyberspace. you can ssh from rpi to their servers
[12:57] <Roostmax> checking...
[12:58] <Roostmax> chunkyhead: ?? “Grex is a public access Unix and computer conferencing system"
[12:58] <chunkyhead> Roostmax: they manually validate your registration, you'd need to send them a mail to get access to all the features
[12:58] <Roostmax> Ahh
[12:58] <chunkyhead> for testing purpose you can ssh to their servers
[12:58] <Roostmax> cool
[12:58] <chunkyhead> which you can later replace with your own server
[12:59] <Roostmax> Yeh, I have access to other server, but not sure I can install mosh
[12:59] <Roostmax> So looking into that aswell
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[14:47] <carp3> Hi, is there anyway to get High quality audio from raspberry pi ? (analog)
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[14:48] <Encrypt> carp3, Maybe with the Wolfson Card
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[14:53] <plugwash> carp3, the Pi's analog output sucks so if you want good qualit analog audio you will have to take the audio from the Pi digitally and convert it to analog
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[14:54] <carp3> i know analog output was awful .
[14:54] <carp3> i was locking at something like hifiberry
[14:54] <carp3> but cheaper
[14:55] <plugwash> There are two main options for doing that, I2S (with the wolfson audio card or similar) or HDMI. USB should also be possible in theory but i've seen reports that USB audio devices often don't work very well with the Pi
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[15:28] <Tachyon`> hi
[15:28] <Tachyon`> does anyone know if the gertboard 328 has the bootloader flashed by default?
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[15:58] <timg> Hi
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[16:37] <tb01110100> Do you need to buy a higher-voltage power supply (above 5v) to overclock the rpi to turbo?
[16:38] <IT_Sean> No
[16:39] <IT_Sean> Supplying a higher voltage to the power input would only damage the raspi.
[16:40] <mgottschlag> tb01110100: in general, the speed of a CPU is somewhat proportional to its core voltage, but in the case of the pi the core voltage is generated from a voltage converter inside of the CPU
[16:40] <tb01110100> mgottschlag: ok
[16:41] <mgottschlag> it is only about 1.2V, but you can try to increase that voltage setting to be able to use higher frequencies
[16:41] <tb01110100> Yeah, I was a little concerned
[16:41] <tb01110100> ##Turbo
[16:41] <tb01110100> #arm_freq=1000
[16:41] <tb01110100> #core_freq=500
[16:41] <tb01110100> #sdram_freq=500
[16:42] <tb01110100> #over_voltage=6
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[16:42] <tb01110100> I thought I wouldn't be able to overclock because of that over_voltage line
[16:42] <mgottschlag> I think every over_voltage step means about 25mV more core voltage on top of that 1.2V, something like that
[16:43] <tb01110100> so I've set the oc to modest, which doesn't need any overvoltage
[16:43] <mgottschlag> you only need to overvolt when the pi does not run stable at the frequency anymore without overvolting
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[16:43] <tb01110100> Right now, the pi is being powered by a console cable connected to my laptop
[16:43] <tb01110100> It seems to output enough power right now
[16:45] <tb01110100> I'm looking at power supplies on amazon, though, so it doesn't rely on my laptop for power
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[16:46] <IT_Sean> tb01110100: regardless of your overclocking settings, you want a 5V PSU, capable of delivering at least 1A.
[16:47] <tb01110100> IT_Sean: thanks
[16:47] <IT_Sean> np.
[16:48] <tb01110100> it seems that almost all of them provide at least 1.5A anyway
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[16:49] <IT_Sean> thats fine.
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[19:24] <hendry> anyone use PoE with their PI? Worried that the 500mA rating is not enough
[19:24] <IT_Sean> It isn't
[19:25] <wip> anyone took the time to upgrade alsa-base (raspbian)?
[19:25] <hendry> IT_Sean: what min A does rpi need ?
[19:25] <IT_Sean> The pi requires 750mA, minimum. It's generally recommended to use a 1A supply or better. Also, hendry, the pi is not POE ready, so, you would need an adapter.
[19:25] <hendry> IT_Sean: yes, i'm looking for a adapter that at least 750mA. It's powering rpi + camera
[19:26] <IT_Sean> you will need 750mA just for the Pi.
[19:26] <IT_Sean> It is strongly recommended that you use a 1A or better supply.
[19:26] <hendry> IT_Sean: one I looked up via MikroTik just does 500mA which is worrying
[19:26] <IT_Sean> 500mA is not sufficient.
[19:26] <IT_Sean> you really do need 1A or better.
[19:26] <hendry> ok, i'll search for 1A rated poe injector/splitter
[19:27] <IT_Sean> Also make sure it's 5v. 5v is a weird voltage for most PoE kit, so, be careful!
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[22:04] <l_r> anev, any luck with fbsd?
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[22:05] <anev> l_r: FreeBSD raspberry-pi 10.0-STABLE FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #0 r267232: Mon Jun 9 09:48:37 UTC 2014 root@grind.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/arm.armv6/usr/src/sys/RPI-B arm
[22:05] <anev> :D
[22:05] <l_r> good :)
[22:06] <l_r> anev, what devices are connected to your raspberry atm?
[22:06] <anev> l_r: i've prepped an image with dhcp, ssh, devd, enabled journaling and standard pi account set up - http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~anev/rpi2.tar.gz
[22:06] <l_r> anev, is there a compiler inside?
[22:06] <anev> l_r: at the moment, just tv via hdmi.. am ssh'd in
[22:07] <l_r> does hdmi work?
[22:07] <anev> l_r: yup
[22:07] <l_r> usb? camera module?
[22:07] <anev> i've no camera module to test
[22:07] <anev> i'll test usb now
[22:07] <l_r> do you know is the camera module would work?
[22:07] <l_r> *if
[22:07] <anev> usb still failing
[22:07] <anev> not sure if it's the keyboard/mouse i'm connecting or not
[22:07] <anev> no others around to test
[22:08] <anev> l_r: i've no idea tbh
[22:08] <anev> re teh camera
[22:08] <l_r> anev, is there the compieler?
[22:08] <l_r> gcc compiler
[22:09] <anev> no, but can install from ports
[22:09] <anev> cc is present
[22:09] <anev> and clang
[22:10] <anev> freebsd moved to cland and dropped gcc a while ago afaik
[22:10] <anev> i'm just about to get package manager up
[22:10] <anev> get some bits on it
[22:10] <l_r> which version of llvm?
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[22:12] <anev> l_r: 10-stable
[22:12] <anev> oh sorry
[22:12] <anev> one sec
[22:13] <anev> #define __VERSION__ "4.2.1 Compatible FreeBSD Clang 3.4.1 (tags/RELEASE_34/dot1-final 208032)"
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[22:18] <l_r> thx
[22:19] <anev> np
[22:19] <anev> i'm gonna play around with it for a bit
[22:19] <anev> i'll let you know how it runs
[22:20] <anev> i'm just installing a package manager right now, i'll get gcc installed next and a few other bits
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[22:48] <l_r> anev, thx for the image
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[22:52] <anev> l_r: np
[22:53] <anev> using that url there is rpi.tar.gz and rpi2.tar.gz
[22:53] <anev> rpi.tar.gz = 11-CURRENT
[22:53] <anev> i couldn't get that to boot correctly though
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[22:53] <anev> rpi2 = 10-STABLE
[22:54] <l_r> what s the problem with the boot
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[22:54] <anev> l_r: i think it has something to do with uboot
[22:55] <anev> it wasn't passing the correct arguments to kernel
[22:55] <anev> it may be an incorrect entry point set in the CONFIG.TXT
[22:55] <l_r> nothing is mentioned on the wiki?
[22:55] <anev> i didn't spend a lot of time looking tbh, i just tired the other image to see if the same error occured
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[23:13] <anev> l_r: just had a kernel panic :/
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[23:18] <l_r> anev, no :(
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[23:18] <l_r> what a pity
[23:19] <rikkib> Custom kernel fun.
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[23:24] <anev> l_r: sure if nothing else, it was worth an experiment
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