#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-06-20

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[0:30] <Encrypt> Hi everybody o/
[0:30] <Encrypt> My SD Card is definitely dead
[0:30] <Encrypt> I'm planning to buy another one
[0:30] <Encrypt> Do you know how to make SD Cards last longer?
[0:31] <Encrypt> Or is there a better card which could be placed in the RPi?
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[0:31] <l_r> Encrypt, what is the reason in your opinion
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[0:31] <l_r> Encrypt, buy an industrial card
[0:31] <Encrypt> l_r, I/O errors every 5 days now...
[0:31] <l_r> Encrypt, hm one the same card?
[0:31] <Encrypt> The Pi sets the system in read only
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[0:31] <l_r> *on
[0:32] <Encrypt> Yes, on the main SD Card
[0:32] <l_r> what do you mean main
[0:32] <Encrypt> The SD Cards in the Pi
[0:32] <Encrypt> -s
[0:32] <Encrypt> (Not an external one I mean)
[0:32] <l_r> oh ok
[0:32] <Encrypt> l_r, [23217.703064] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 1718632
[0:32] <l_r> what's the brand
[0:33] <Encrypt> l_r, [23217.755587] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2): Remounting filesystem read-only
[0:33] <Encrypt> l_r, It's a Samsung one
[0:33] <l_r> industrial cards make the real difference
[0:33] <Encrypt> l_r, But you know...
[0:33] <Encrypt> It has been running for almost 3 years now
[0:33] <Encrypt> 24 horus a day
[0:34] <Encrypt> hours*
[0:34] <l_r> reasonable
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[0:34] <Encrypt> l_r, Where do you buy those SD Cards?
[0:34] <l_r> industrial cards?
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[0:34] <l_r> there are many
[0:34] <l_r> ATP, Sundisk, etc
[0:35] <Encrypt> You can't buy it in a regular store I imagine?
[0:35] <l_r> but they might cost 4x , 5x times the cost of a raspberrypi :P
[0:35] <pksato> Encrypt: can be PSU problem. Bad filtered or similar.
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[0:35] <Encrypt> pksato, Nope, I'm sure it's not
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[0:35] <Encrypt> It has worked well for 2 years
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[0:36] <pksato> 2 years is long time to PSU.
[0:37] <Encrypt> PSU = Power Supply Unit, right?
[0:37] <pksato> yes
[0:37] <Encrypt> Or am I misunderstanding?
[0:37] <Encrypt> Ok
[0:39] <Encrypt> BTW
[0:39] <pksato> time to time I need to replace stuffed/leaked capacitor on small psus.
[0:39] <Encrypt> Is it better to buy a standard SD Card or a micrSD Card with the adapter?
[0:39] <pksato> or even, capacitors on circuit board.
[0:39] <Encrypt> I'm going to buy a new one anyway (this one is too small)
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[0:41] <rikkib> Use an old pc as a network file server and boot the rpi using nfs root
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[0:42] <rikkib> The 2gb card will last forever
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[0:43] <rikkib> ie I use real cheap 2gb sd cards with only the boot patrition
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[0:46] <Encrypt> rikkib, I see
[0:46] <Encrypt> But regarding power consumptions...
[0:46] <Encrypt> That's not worth having a RPi :p
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[1:03] <rikkib> Correct... In both situations where I run RPi with nfs root there are 3 or more rpi
[1:03] <rikkib> http://122.61.65.146 is an example.
[1:04] <smrtz|nix> So if I'm using the sudo command in a bash script, and then call the script in Upstart.conf. I've ran chmod u+x on the bash script. Is there anything else I need to do?
[1:04] <rikkib> Three RPi with cams and a pc to act as an aggregation server (hosts the nfs server as well
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[1:11] <jhave> Hi
[1:11] <jhave> Is there a minimal ubuntu/debian dist for rasp?
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[1:22] <Nik05> jhave raspbian
[1:22] <ShorTie> there is a minimal net install of raspbian
[1:22] <Nik05> its debian compiled for raspbian, you can make it as minimal as you want
[1:23] <ShorTie> raspbian is a patched up version of debian for the rPi
[1:23] <Nik05> *compiled for raspi
[1:24] <ShorTie> ok, patched and compiled for the rPi
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[1:24] <Nik05> debian doesnt support the arm version in the raspi
[1:24] <ShorTie> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
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[1:24] <ShorTie> well da, why you think i say patched
[1:25] <Nik05> this was just info for the guy asking about an os ;)
[1:26] <Nik05> but ShorTie how much is patched? isnt that minimal? isnt it just some compile flags that differ?
[1:27] <ShorTie> well basically for your guy, if you want desktop use raspbian, if console is all you want then maybe arch or raspbian
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[1:28] <ShorTie> no, that netinstall is just what you need to boot it into raspbian/debian
[1:28] <ShorTie> you add everything else
[1:29] <ShorTie> don't forget to read the readme and do the full instalation if you go that route
[1:29] <ShorTie> once booted, install is not really done
[1:30] <ShorTie> got a few more things to do to make it like a stable install
[1:30] <[Saint]> Good morning/day/afternoon/evening/night.
[1:30] <[Saint]> (select one or more that apply to your locale ;))
[1:31] <Nik05> [Saint] just say goodmorning
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[1:32] <ShorTie> Good Morning [Saint]
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[1:39] <[Saint]> Gah.
[1:39] <[Saint]> That's just typical.
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[1:41] <[Saint]> I just spent about 15 minutes trying to get a couple of tablets down my cat's throat, with no success whatsoever, and then in desperation I just held out my hand and offered them to him and he gobbled them up like they were cat treats.
[1:41] <[Saint]> (antibiotics and a pretty serious painkiller - post surgery)
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[1:42] <CarryA1911> lol
[1:42] <CarryA1911> *laughing at cat eating them after refusing them, not at your ill pet
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[1:43] <[Saint]> Yeah, don't worry, I got it. I find it amusing too, in hindsight.
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[1:44] * ShorTie snickers
[1:44] <[Saint]> I wasn't actually supposed to post that in this channel, but if it provided a laugh, it was worth it. :)
[1:44] <CarryA1911> I'm glad u did :)
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[3:12] <tpw_rules> so i know this is a stupid question but there isn't like a program that can translate x86 to arm is there. i have a posix-compliant no-fancy-feature-using binary i need to run
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[3:13] <ShorTie> gcc
[3:14] <ShorTie> i believe any x86 binary needs to be recompiled for arm if your gonna get it to work
[3:14] <tpw_rules> figures. i don't have source
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[3:15] <pksato> use qemu.
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[3:15] <tpw_rules> well wouldn't that require running a whole other operating system?
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[3:17] <binaryhermit> I believe so, and given the overhead and fact that the RPi is somewhat underpowered to begin with, performance might be somewhat painful
[3:17] <tpw_rules> blargh. i think decompiling it is going to be more practical than that
[3:18] <pksato> why need to run this x86 bin on rpi?
[3:18] <tpw_rules> for a printer driver
[3:19] * binaryhermit comments that it probably won't work
[3:19] <tpw_rules> what won't?
[3:19] <binaryhermit> but I'm a pessimist at heart, so your mileage may vary somewhat
[3:19] <chris_99> heh
[3:19] <binaryhermit> tpw_rules: decompiling and recompiling
[3:20] <tpw_rules> well i've been looking for a reason to learn ida. it's only a 20k binary, it can't possibly be that complicated
[3:20] <pksato> can be a very special printer?
[3:20] <ShorTie> that is what they all say, lol.
[3:20] <tpw_rules> yeah
[3:22] <ShorTie> is the driver worth 35 bucks to you ??
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[3:22] <tpw_rules> i'm happy to waste my time, i just don't want to reinvent the wheel
[3:22] <ShorTie> send the company a pi and ask them to compie it for ya, hehe,
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[5:55] <MassDivide> I'm back, looking for help again with coovachilli. Did a complete fresh reinstall from source and a few other tweaks. But now i'm in purgatory with it. This time a similar but different issue. Looking for some quick help.
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[6:00] <MassDivide> Anyone out there? I'm open to just about any suggestion, I have no idea why this isn't working 100%. But the login.chi isn't loading and I have no idea why.
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[6:01] <MassDivide> [Saint], nice too see you again.
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[6:07] <ltedcoai> http://imgur.com/4dueQEJ
[6:07] <ltedcoai> weee
[6:08] <MassDivide> nice, have you tested the duration?
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[6:08] <ltedcoai> doing so now!
[6:09] <MassDivide> What millamps are the AA's/
[6:09] <ltedcoai> 2200mAh I think
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[6:09] <ltedcoai> 8 of them
[6:09] <MassDivide> not bad at all
[6:10] <ltedcoai> I am losing a lot of time with that 7805 I imagine
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[6:11] <MassDivide> http://i.imgur.com/xaltFmw.png This is my issue i'm having with coovachilli + haserl right now. As you guys can see it invokes haserl, but something is definately wrong. Any help would be grand.
[6:11] <MassDivide> ltedcoai, 7805?
[6:11] <ltedcoai> yeah voltage regulator
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[6:12] <MassDivide> ah
[6:12] <ltedcoai> up to 35v will convert to 5V
[6:12] <MassDivide> very nice, did you build it or buy it?
[6:12] <ltedcoai> build
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[6:12] <ltedcoai> http://imgur.com/iCdYJot
[6:12] <ltedcoai> that
[6:14] <MassDivide> My other pi's side project: I'm trying to hack a seeedstudio GPRS SHIELD v1 that I got on clearance at radio shack for $9 to work as a DUN modem for my pi.
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[6:15] <MassDivide> http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/GPRS_Shield_V1.0, not designed for pi, but for $9 its worth a whack at a hack :P
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[6:17] <MassDivide> ltedcoai, what size is the capacitor used?
[6:17] <ltedcoai> 470uF and 1uF
[6:18] <MassDivide> do you have a pinout for that?
[6:18] <ltedcoai> a pinout?
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[6:19] <MassDivide> yeah scematic, parts, pinout, connections
[6:19] <ltedcoai> schematic?
[6:19] <MassDivide> yeah round here we just call it a pinout
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[6:23] <ltedcoai> MassDivide: http://www.circuitstune.com/2011/12/12-to-5-volt-dc-dc-converter-circuit.html
[6:23] <ltedcoai> I used that
[6:23] <MassDivide> thanks for that
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[6:26] <MassDivide> Arg imma punch my pi. Chilli Y U NO LOVE ME
[6:26] <ltedcoai> will fruit splatter everywhere?
[6:27] <MassDivide> just might
[6:27] <MassDivide> i don't understand why this isn't working
[6:27] <MassDivide> its clearly invoking haserl
[6:29] <ltedcoai> sudo apt-get install haserl
[6:29] <ltedcoai> :P
[6:29] <MassDivide> did that
[6:30] <MassDivide> and compiled from source. ->http://i.imgur.com/xaltFmw.png you can see its running it, but its running it standalone
[6:30] <MassDivide> as if i where todo /user/local/bin/haserl by itself
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[6:33] <MassDivide> these two images dipect why its mind boggling http://i.imgur.com/GYCD4ZN.png, ltedcoai, any ideas mate?
[6:33] <MassDivide> second image : http://i.imgur.com/F0r0Gv7.png
[6:34] <ltedcoai> are you sure haserl is there?
[6:34] <ltedcoai> in /usr/local/bin/haserl
[6:34] <MassDivide> yeah look at the second img
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[6:35] <ltedcoai> run program as sudo?
[6:36] <MassDivide> doesn't require it. its a sub routine, that chilli invokes to interperate cgi files
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[6:36] <ltedcoai> I don't know what you're saying anymore. Beyond my knowledge :P
[6:38] <MassDivide> Basically. Chilli uses it to open .cgi web pages. Chilli is a wifi hotspot captive portal that auths via radius
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[6:39] <MassDivide> i just cannot figure out why other people have this working with no issues
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[6:49] <MassDivide> Anyone know an alternative to coovachilli that works with a pi? because I'm about to give up.
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[6:50] <JakeSays> so i just configured a new raspi, and i can ssh to it, and it can see all the machines on my network, but it can't access external addresses. i get connect: network unavailable. any ideas?
[6:51] <MassDivide> JakeSays, this is via a browser?
[6:51] <JakeSays> MassDivide: no. tried running apt-get update
[6:51] <JakeSays> but i even get it while pinging external addresses
[6:51] <MassDivide> even straight IPs?
[6:51] <JakeSays> yup
[6:52] <MassDivide> did you use dhcp or manual config?
[6:52] <JakeSays> dhcp
[6:52] <MassDivide> via wlan or eth?
[6:52] <JakeSays> eth
[6:52] <MassDivide> I had the same issue
[6:52] <MassDivide> had to manually config it
[6:52] <JakeSays> ah
[6:52] <JakeSays> i'll try that
[6:53] <MassDivide> what distro?
[6:53] <JakeSays> raspian
[6:53] <MassDivide> latest version or the box-shipped via noobs?
[6:53] <JakeSays> latest version
[6:53] <JakeSays> jan something of this year
[6:53] <MassDivide> 2014-01-07 img
[6:54] <JakeSays> yeah
[6:54] <MassDivide> yeah config it manually
[6:54] <MassDivide> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[6:54] <MassDivide> i did a iface eth0 inet static
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[6:55] <MassDivide> and make sure you include the gateway and dns-nameserver options, 8.8.8.8 is googles if you need one off hand
[6:55] <MassDivide> worked like a charm after that
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[6:56] <MassDivide> Still trying to find a darn fix for this PI... *facepalm*
[6:57] <JakeSays> configured. lets see how that works
[6:57] <JakeSays> interestingly enough the other pi is using an older distro and its working with dhcp
[6:58] <JakeSays> MassDivide: that did the trick. thanks!
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[6:59] <MassDivide> JakeSays, no problem man. Can you fix mine now? haha.
[7:00] <JakeSays> MassDivide: dude i'm clueless :(
[7:00] <MassDivide> Well at least you admit that, nothing bugs me more than time wasters :) Good man!
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[7:05] <MassDivide> how much is a smashed raspberry pi worth?
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[7:06] <JakeSays> i have one. not much.
[7:07] <MassDivide> I'm about to have one too :P
[7:07] <MassDivide> Gonna go all Jebadiah Kerman on this thing and put it into orbit.
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[7:13] <ltedcoai> still going ^.^
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[8:13] <chunkyhead> is there any way on windows to find out other devices connected to the network?
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[8:15] <chunkyhead> is there any way on windows to find out other devices connected to the network?
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[8:38] <ErkiS> has anybody had luck streaming network video from raspberry without a noticeable lag? the best result I get is a 2 second lag, with raspivid | cvlc
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[9:09] <Helldesk> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/encompass/asmo-charger-the-worlds-first-truly-intelligent-ch
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[9:10] <Helldesk> a charger that is able to disconnect itself from the grid when not charging (connects automatically or with a button when needed)
[9:11] <Helldesk> can't burn a house down or draw power when left plugged in while not in use
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[9:17] <rosapoP> problem is it cant be used with the pi if you look at te video
[9:17] * ShorTie snickers
[9:17] <rosapoP> *the
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[9:18] <ShorTie> looks like a typical green thing to me, cost much more then you will save, lol.
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[9:35] <nid0> fwiw it would work with a pi fine
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[9:36] <nid0> but $64 for a charger to save about 60p of power annually, *if* their 8khw/year figure is right? dont think so
[9:38] <swiss> Helldesk: doesn't the belkin green shit do that already?
[9:40] <Helldesk> does it?
[9:40] <nid0> they have a few devices that do similar but nothing so specific for phone charging
[9:41] <nid0> their av strip has a "master" socket for a tv then like 4 other sockets on the strip, when you turn your tv off the other sockets get switched off
[9:42] <nid0> and a power strip with remote controlled socket on/off switches, but in the context of a mobile phone charger the power needed for the wireless receiver to run the remote is probably more than the power a mobile charger wastes
[9:42] <Helldesk> oh, those; must be a different tehcnique method that isn't fully off
[9:42] <Helldesk> it's got to draw some power to sniff if the master device needs power
[9:42] <rosapoP> problem with it is that it sounded like it needs a battery powerd device to start charging
[9:43] <ShorTie> the only true way to power off a device, is to un-plug it
[9:43] <Helldesk> this one is focused on the fire safety
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[9:43] <Helldesk> and it manages to do it; it's not powered even when plugged in if there's nothing to charge
[9:44] <Helldesk> the downside is that it has to get some power from somewhere to start charging when needed
[9:44] <rosapoP> so phones with a flat battery or a pi would not be capable of making it start the powerdelivery
[9:44] <Helldesk> it has a button for initiating it if that is the case
[9:45] <Helldesk> they're not stupid :p
[9:45] * ShorTie snickers
[9:45] <Helldesk> that automatic thing is only available on some phones in any case
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[9:45] <juniour> hi
[9:46] <Helldesk> I don't like leaving chargers in myself because you can't know if they're knock-offs that look the part
[9:46] <juniour> hi i cant update my linux headers.
[9:46] <Helldesk> and might burn the house down
[9:46] <Helldesk> but still... that price point is quite high for me
[9:46] <CDR`> So buy from a reputable dealer
[9:46] <Helldesk> ah, but how can you tell who is reputable?
[9:46] <juniour> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[9:47] <CDR`> Someone who isn't based in China? :)
[9:47] <Helldesk> even they could get fraudulent knock-offs from their suppliers
[9:47] <Helldesk> it's all made in China anyway and these things happen
[9:47] <Helldesk> *and* there are quality chargers made in China so you can't tell by price alone
[9:47] <CDR`> I've never had anything counterfeit from Amazon, from their marketplaces yes..
[9:48] <juniour> hi need help
[9:48] <Helldesk> you mean you've only received convincing chargers from Amazon? :)
[9:48] <ShorTie> juniour, there are not linux-headers for every kernel version
[9:48] <juniour> what i need to do then ???
[9:48] <ShorTie> try apt-cache search linux-header, then go from there
[9:49] <Helldesk> I remember an EEVBlog video that was comparing a fake and a genuine charger
[9:49] <Helldesk> it turned out both were fake when he opened them...
[9:49] <Helldesk> (sent in by viewers)
[9:51] <juniour> ShorTie check this which one should i install http://pastebin.com/3msE608M
[9:51] <nid0> i've never bought a charger in my life
[9:52] <juniour> ??
[9:53] <juniour> can ane one tell me which linux headears will i install http://pastebin.com/3msE608M
[9:53] <nid0> I would hope its a safe bet that the ones phone manufactures send every couple of years, along with tablet manufactures etc, should be "genuine"
[9:53] <ShorTie> what kernel are you running ??
[9:53] <juniour> ShorTie Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[9:53] <Helldesk> do all phones still come with a charger these days? I thought they were starting to save there too
[9:54] <nid0> my phone's 18 months old now and that did, im guessing its possible my next one might not - I think my other half's last phone just came with a usb cable but no wallwart
[9:55] <juniour> ShorTie ??
[9:55] <ShorTie> linux-headers-3.6-trunk-all most likely i guess
[9:56] <ShorTie> will not hurt to install all of the 3.6 ones
[9:56] <juniour> k
[9:57] <ShorTie> any specific reason your running 3.6 ??
[9:58] <ShorTie> apt-get update then apt-get upgrade might be in order
[9:58] <juniour> ShorTie no i want the latest one
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[9:59] <juniour> no reason to run 3.6, i can run any thats y iasked here which one will be best
[9:59] <ShorTie> then i would start with the upgrade/update
[9:59] <juniour> i tried it havent updated :)
[9:59] <ShorTie> oops, update/upgrade
[10:00] <juniour> yes i have done this before sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:00] <juniour> ShorTie how to know which one is the latest
[10:01] <ShorTie> the headers must match your kernel
[10:01] <ShorTie> you can not use 3.10 headers with a 3.6 kernel
[10:01] <juniour> k
[10:02] <juniour> how will i upgrade my kernel
[10:02] <juniour> i want the latest kernel with latest headers
[10:02] <ShorTie> the && is nice, but if you do then individually with a few enters in between it is easier to see what is going on
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[10:03] <juniour> k
[10:03] <juniour> :)
[10:03] <ShorTie> then do the update/upgrade thing for the latest stable versions
[10:03] <juniour> yea that done saperately
[10:03] <juniour> next
[10:03] <ShorTie> don't forget to reboot to yse the latest kernel
[10:04] <ShorTie> use*
[10:04] <juniour> k after reboot change will take place k
[10:04] <juniour> wait i will be back in min
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[10:07] <juniour> hi
[10:07] <juniour> ShorTie thanks
[10:07] <juniour> Linux raspberrypi 3.12.22+ #691 PREEMPT Wed Jun 18 18:29:58 BST 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux
[10:08] <ShorTie> No Problem
[10:09] <juniour> ShorTie the this was i have done the update/upgrade but havent rebooted my system. that y i cant see changes. and you told to reboot and changes takes placed
[10:09] <ShorTie> i guess it really should be apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && reboot
[10:10] <juniour> yeaaa
[10:10] <ShorTie> linux doesn't need rebooted as much as windows, but it doesn't hurt to do it
[10:11] <ShorTie> atleast after the apt-get upgrade
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[10:11] <ShorTie> never know what is in the works that needs restarted
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[10:50] <swiss> you only really need to with kernel upgrades
[10:51] <ShorTie> ya, true there are other ways to restart stuff
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[10:51] <ShorTie> but a reboot is the easiest, imho
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[11:26] <ParkerR> Woo installing xorg and playing music to my Pi via UPnP https://cdn.mediacru.sh/UFJlhI9JVok6.jpg
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[11:27] <ParkerR> (Ignore the obviously GIMP'd screen :P)
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[11:38] <anev> l_r: yup, it's working well.
[11:39] <anev> l_r: bar the usb support, still haven't managed to get the keyboard working correctly.
[11:39] <anev> do you know if rpi has xhci support?
[11:39] <anev> i don't see it in device logs
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[11:40] <brian1001> hi everyone
[11:40] <anev> l_r: i think it may be possible to fix some with kernel tweaks via sysctl
[11:40] <anev> brian1001: hi
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[11:45] <brian1001> i saw a picture on the internet from someone who managed to connect 12V PIR sensors to his raspberry.
[11:45] <brian1001> http://postimg.org/image/ln479jq1l/
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[11:46] <brian1001> i wonder if someone knows what kind of components he used on his connection board in the midle
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[12:15] <ShorTie> brian1001, they look like opto-couplers to me
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[12:22] <Daulity> hi all
[12:23] <ShorTie> Good Morning
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[12:34] <ParkerR> Morning
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[13:33] <brian1001> http://postimg.org/image/ln479jq1l/
[13:33] <eutheria> how does a pi compare to a pic processor in terms of power consumption?
[13:33] <brian1001> i wonder if someone knows what kind of components he used on his connection board in the middle (some resistors it seems)
[13:33] <eutheria> zoom in and try and read the serial numbers
[13:34] <[Saint]> eutheria: the pi uses about 4W total, fully loaded, IIRC.
[13:34] <[Saint]> (for a Model B)
[13:34] <brian1001> im trying to connect my 12 volt pirs it to :P
[13:34] <[Saint]> IOW: "pretty much nothing"
[13:35] <[Saint]> It costs somewhere in the vicinity of a couple of dollars to run a Pi for a year, 24/7.
[13:36] <eutheria> so the pi could well be lower power than a pic
[13:38] <Nefarious___> "When using an external drive, whether it's an SSD or an HDD, the speed will be limited due to the USB bus driver" Can someone confirm this, or name the actual speed limit?
[13:39] <[Saint]> You're limited to half a USB 2 bus.
[13:39] <[Saint]> (roughly)
[13:39] <[Saint]> SInce you have to share that bus with the network controller.
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[13:39] <brian1001> yes i tried it and i can copy data at a 2MB / s speed
[13:40] <Nefarious___> Ugh 2mb/s? That's why I want the SATA port on the lines of the Banana pi knockoff and the hummingboard :\
[13:40] <[Saint]> Well, its only going to be as fast as the slowest point.
[13:40] <Nefarious___> Or even then cubieboard, but I've heard that's a bit bad.
[13:41] <Nefarious___> Yeah
[13:41] <Nefarious___> That's the problem heh
[13:41] <[Saint]> For the pi, I guess this wasn't considered an issue, I mean, the OS runs of an sdcard.
[13:41] <[Saint]> Random access on an sdcard often *sucks*.
[13:42] <[Saint]> Especially lots of little, random accesses.
[13:42] <Nefarious___> If onky they could bring out a rev 3
[13:42] <Nefarious___> Only*
[13:42] <[Saint]> I sincerely doubt it.
[13:42] <Nefarious___> But I guess it's enough as it is for the purpose it was designed for
[13:42] <[Saint]> Yeah, exactly.
[13:42] <[Saint]> Its not supposed to be particularly performant.
[13:42] <[Saint]> ZIts supposed to be "good enough".
[13:43] <[Saint]> And cheap.
[13:43] <Nefarious___> And cheap
[13:43] <Nefarious___> Beat me :P
[13:43] <[Saint]> snap.
[13:44] <Nefarious___> If anyone owns a banana pi can you ping me?
[13:44] <[Saint]> I have a few STE Snowballs.
[13:44] <[Saint]> (The NovaThor dev board)
[13:45] <eutheria> seems like one might use a pi as a central control system and a Arduino as an extension
[13:45] <[Saint]> They don;t have SATA, but they _do_ have up to 8GB of onboard NAND flash.
[13:45] <Nefarious___> I need SATA :P
[13:45] <eutheria> i need an education
[13:46] <Nefarious___> [Saint]: Do you own a cubieboard?
[13:46] <[Saint]> Nefarious___: I have a 1TB external USB2 disk plugged into my Snowball, and I use the onboard NAND for high-speed storage.
[13:46] <[Saint]> ANd, no. I don't.
[13:46] <Nefarious___> Ah
[13:46] <tig|> eutheria: I have controlled a leonardo from the pi and used it to handle the PWM control for a servo
[13:47] <[Saint]> The Snowball is still a good deal.
[13:47] <tig|> there are easier ways of putting the kettle on though... :)
[13:47] <[Saint]> They're still heavily reduced, and will be until Calao Systems gets rid of them all.
[13:47] <[Saint]> They're only ~50 USD
[13:48] <[Saint]> (they retailed at $300 when they launched)
[13:48] <[Saint]> They're like a raspi, but with onboard storage, and a metric buttload on sensors onboard.
[13:49] <[Saint]> (barometer, magnemometer, gyro, accelerometer, IR, GPS, WiFi, etc)
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[13:50] <tig|> [Saint]: looks great, I wonder if they are available in the uk
[13:50] <[Saint]> Calao Systems ship to the UK, yes.
[13:51] <[Saint]> (FYI, the NovaThor SoC is 1.2GB dual core, with an Adreno 300 GPU)
[13:51] <[Saint]> It runs Android and Ubuntu out of the box.
[13:51] <[Saint]> (big win, IMO)
[13:53] <[Saint]> The raspi *could* run Android, in fact, it *can* run Android - but no one has figured it out (properly) yet, and Broadcomm isn't sharing.
[13:53] <[Saint]> Broadcomm demoed a fully functional ICS image for the raspi ~2 years ago.
[13:53] <[Saint]> And then it turned out to be vaporware.
[13:54] <[Saint]> Best we have from the community is a Gingerbrwad image that runs at ~12fps and crashes if you look at it the wrong way.
[13:55] <[Saint]> On one of my Snowballs I run Android with a debian chroot installation w/ VNC client.
[13:56] <[Saint]> errr, server, rather.
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[14:54] <Karatektus> Hi there - can anyone help me regarding external sensors for the raspberry pi?
[14:54] <Karatektus> im not sure how to connect it, since it runs on 12V
[14:56] <pksato> we need more details.
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[14:59] <Karatektus> mh its a flow meter. it has 3 connections: gnd, +12V and the signal connection which can have 0 to 12v
[14:59] <Karatektus> what else?
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[15:00] <pksato> Karatektus: if is analog output, need a ADC.
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[15:01] <pksato> if sensor is only flow/no flow, need only a voltage divider (two resistor).
[15:02] <Karatektus> it "pulses" and i do have to count those pulses... so i guess its digital?
[15:02] <pksato> or a transistor.
[15:03] <Karatektus> it is this one: http://www.hypropumps.com/resources/images/474.pdf
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[15:03] <pksato> pulse couting is not precise on RPi, dont have a hw counter.
[15:04] <brian1001> may i please ask a simple and maybe even a stupid qusetion :)
[15:04] <IT_Sean> Don't ask to ask... just ask your question. If someone can help, they will.
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[15:05] <brian1001> i downloaded this alarm program for the reaspberry pi and it seems to work well , its just that i can't connect my 12 Volt pirs
[15:05] <brian1001> http://oddwires.co.uk/alarm/circuit/
[15:05] <Karatektus> pksato, wouldn't it be precise of you just pull the status of the pin at twice the speed of the sensor?
[15:05] <brian1001> i have resistors and everything here :)
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[15:08] <pksato> Karatektus: power meter as usual +12V, connect output to two resistors in series (voltage divider), and join of resistor to one of GPIO.
[15:10] <pksato> voltage divider can be a 10k and 2k7 resistor, meter_out->10k-(gpio)->2k7->gnd
[15:11] <brian1001> i connected the PIR to a 12 V power supply. the PIR has 2 wires left and i need to connect the output wires to the Raspberry. PIR OUT > 10k -> GPIO . then from the GPIO to a 2K7 and then... (hmmm sorry im still not good at it)
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[15:13] <pksato> brian1001: just ask here.
[15:13] <pksato> and, I talking with Karatektus .
[15:14] <Karatektus> we are just painting it :D
[15:14] <Karatektus> https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/13Zu1W5LYHHZgvVh9kyEzRuSqSRTI0ALltN90H7C4UH4/edit
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[15:18] <anev> Karatektus: ha nice
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[15:21] <Karatektus> so many ppl watching :D
[15:21] <trevlar> Anybody here familiar with Motion? I setup a streaming video feed with a webcam and I'm curious if the video or frames get saved to disk anywhere or if it's just purely streamed.
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[15:27] <pksato> trevlar: if configured, motion save images or movies.
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[15:29] <trevlar> pksato: I was looking through motion.conf but can't really tell where that would be set. Any idea?
[15:30] <pksato> look more close...
[15:31] <IT_Sean> is there a man page for motion?
[15:31] <pksato> or you have a cleaned motion.conf
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[15:32] <pksato> file:///usr/share/doc/motion/motion_guide.html
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[15:36] <pksato> montion save files on `grep target_dir /etc/motion/motion.conf`
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[15:38] <trevlar> pksato: ah! ok, there it is, /tmp/motion. Thanks! :)
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[16:05] <crippa> hi.
[16:07] <crippa> I'm trying to prevent user "pi" to log in via SSH. I edited the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config and added the line "DenyUsers pi" at the end of the file. I then restarted the SSH deamon, checked that sshd has a new PID (just to be sure) and logged out. Then I tried to log in again with the user "pi" and damn it worked.. ahy?
[16:08] <crippa> anybody here?
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[16:10] <rosapoP> i just chnged the ssh port to something on standard and put my firewall between it and the internet
[16:11] <rosapoP> so it only can be loged into from local network
[16:13] <crippa> no I need to access it from outside
[16:13] <crippa> btw to achieve that you could simply block the port on the router
[16:14] <crippa> my questions is: if I changed the sshd config file, why the hell can I still log in?
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[16:15] <crippa> is there another config file?
[16:16] <rosapoP> dunno did you format it right
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[16:16] <tig|> crippa: did you specify allowed users at the same time
[16:16] <tig|> ?
[16:17] <rosapoP> whitelisting is better than blacklisting
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[16:23] <nid0> an alternative option, whats wrong with just deleting the pi user if you dont want it used?
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[17:06] <dTal> I had a similar issue to crippa recently, only I couldn't log in via SSH even though I'd explicitly allowed it
[17:06] <dTal> turned out to be PAM
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[17:52] <BetaSoul> Can I get a moments help with a tcl script for my motd?
[17:52] <kiely> shoot
[17:52] <kiely> rule #1 never ask if you can ask a question
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[17:53] <BetaSoul> ITs not the quesitoning for help, its seeting if any one was willing to help.
[17:53] <BetaSoul> https://gist.github.com/LibertyBeta/a92286a486b2d7504c49
[17:53] <BetaSoul> That's the gist.
[17:53] <BetaSoul> Its rusn fine from tclsh, but fails when part of the profile.
[17:54] <BetaSoul> And I'm stumped.
[17:54] <BetaSoul> The error is unknown function.
[17:55] <BetaSoul> Do I need to double escape the \?
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[17:55] <kiely> i cant click links here for some reason, sorry
[17:55] <kiely> on my phone
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[21:25] <DevWork__> Hi I am wondering what offers a minimal modern distro image. Shell + package manager + I2C + SSHD is all I really need. Eventually might use a python script or soemthing interfacing with a web server / client. I don't really need/want a full desktop install. Using it as a hardware development board mostly.
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[21:30] <shiftplusone> you don't have to install all packages
[21:30] <shiftplusone> so any distro will do
[21:31] <DevWork__> Sure, but most have a DE on the image already no?
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[21:31] <shiftplusone> you don't have to install from an image that does
[21:31] <shiftplusone> for example for example, https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[21:31] <tig|> DevWork__: but not started, it doesn't have to be running
[21:31] <shiftplusone> -1 " for example"
[21:31] <shiftplusone> and there's arch, which doesn't have crapware added
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[21:32] <DevWork__> Ok, and what about any hardware tweaks, or distros more suited for hardware interfacing?
[21:33] <tig|> well you will find more material for raspbian out there
[21:33] <shiftplusone> doesn't matter. at the end of the day, linux is linux.
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[21:34] <tig|> personally I would prototype on raspbian and then strip everything down later once you have got a working setup
[21:34] <tig|> use that as a prototype first then you are not chasing two potential sources of issues
[21:35] <shiftplusone> or just start with a stripped raspbian using the link I gave you
[21:35] <DevWork__> shiftplusone, thats what i will probably do
[21:35] <tig|> DevWork__: basically what shiftplusone said :)
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[21:39] <gordonDrogon> or just use raspbian and ignore stuff you don't want. it's only a few GB of SD card space afterall.
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[22:14] <Encrypt> l_r, I'm having a look at industrial cards!
[22:14] <Encrypt> Some have wear levelling controllers integrated! :O
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[22:19] <l_r> Encrypt, yep
[22:19] <Encrypt> l_r, Btw, do you know whether a read operation will "hurt" the SD Card?
[22:20] <Encrypt> A few people told me it doesn't
[22:20] <shiftplusone> eh? don't ALL sd cards have wear levelling controllers? O_o
[22:20] <l_r> Encrypt, cards support a limited number of readings
[22:20] <Encrypt> Ok...
[22:20] <Encrypt> Still the same then...
[22:21] <l_r> with industrial cards this limit is higher of course
[22:21] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, "I work for a company that used to be a member of the SD association, we are familiar with the 2.0 (SDHC) spec. The SD card spec has NO entry for wear leveling. That is completely dependent on the SD manufacturer to handle that if they so choose."
[22:21] <Encrypt> Source: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/27619/is-it-true-that-a-sd-mmc-card-does-wear-levelling-with-its-own-controller
[22:21] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, So, common SD Cards don't have wear levelling controllers
[22:22] <shiftplusone> that just says that they don't HAVE to, not that they don't O_o
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[22:23] <shiftplusone> The rest of the replies say that they do and if they don't they'll die in minutes. O_o
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[22:25] <DevWork__> yea nand is pretty finicky. if its nand backed, as are most of the newer stuff, they have some basic nand wear level controller
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[22:30] <shiftplusone> heh... http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/got_character
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[22:36] <DevWork__> HODORHODORHODORHODOR!
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[23:15] <BetaSoul> HDORO!
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[23:20] <DevWork__> You can only say one word, and HDORO is not it.
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[23:30] <Daulity> shiftplusone: ping
[23:30] <shiftplusone> pong
[23:30] <Daulity> anyone know if there is a bot lurking in the channel that has a reminder command ?
[23:31] <shiftplusone> nope
[23:31] <Daulity> shiftplusone: forgot what i wanted to ask
[23:31] <shiftplusone> in any case, the answer was yes.
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[23:31] <Daulity> shiftplusone: i remember
[23:32] <Daulity> do you know of any predefines for assembly. in avr you have these .def files for every single microcontroler that has .equ and defines in it for all the registers and maps and such.
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[23:40] <shiftplusone> heh
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[23:42] <shiftplusone> there are some that people have written up for their own applications, but they're not complete or useful
[23:42] <shiftplusone> just populate such a file yourself as you go.
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[23:42] <eutheria> Hi I was thinking about using xbee but someone suggested another module
[23:43] <shiftplusone> Daulity, here's an example https://github.com/PeterLemon/RaspberryPi/blob/master/LIB/R_PI.INC
[23:43] <eutheria> I lost the history. Maybe someone knows what might have been suggested
[23:43] <shiftplusone> it's for fasm though
[23:44] <shiftplusone> should only take a few replaces to fix it for whatever you're using though
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[23:49] <rikkib> RF24 is similar to xbee
[23:51] <rikkib> RF2401P+ to be exact
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[23:53] <shiftplusone> You have some huge mosquitoes here in the UK.
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[23:55] <shiftplusone> Australian insects are supposed to be bad, but these things look like they'll suck all your blood out.
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[23:56] <ParkerR> :D I setup my Raspberry Pi as an in-car bluetooth receiver http://withg.org/parkerlreed/PiBluetooth.webm
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