#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-06-24

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[0:15] <eutheria> Why does the compute module cost so much?
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[0:15] <gordonDrogon> icecube45, I didn't get an SD card with it. and yes, new toy is working just fine.
[0:17] <icecube45> gordonDrogon,
[0:17] <icecube45> it has internal flash memory
[0:17] <icecube45> no need for an sd
[0:18] <gordonDrogon> maybe I'll go read the documentation then.
[0:18] <icecube45> haha
[0:18] <gordonDrogon> but then, the Pi compute module also has internal flash - after a fashion :)
[0:18] <shiftplusone> eutheria, how much?
[0:18] <gordonDrogon> 4GB
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[0:19] <shiftplusone> (I am going to say it, doesn't, since you're going to give the dev kit price rather than the computer module price)
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[0:20] <gordonDrogon> the 4GB is on the compute module, not the dev board.
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[0:20] <shiftplusone> talking to eutheria , not you
[0:21] <icecube45> gordonDrogon,
[0:21] * gordonDrogon wobbles
[0:21] <icecube45> do you know what rev your BBB is?
[0:21] <gordonDrogon> icecube45, not even sure where it is.
[0:21] <icecube45> haha
[0:22] <eutheria> Shiftplusone. I think I saw a kit but it came to 120gbp
[0:22] <gordonDrogon> found it.
[0:22] <icecube45> wooho
[0:22] <gordonDrogon> pcb rev B3 ?
[0:23] <icecube45> nice
[0:23] <shiftplusone> eutheria, aye, it's priced for the industry rather than your average hacker/maker
[0:23] <gordonDrogon> is it?
[0:23] <eutheria> I am looking for a cheap alternative to xbee
[0:23] <gordonDrogon> ciseco xrf?
[0:23] <shiftplusone> and as a one off cost to a company, it's nothing.
[0:24] <eutheria> Not big money. I expected less
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[0:24] <icecube45> gordonDrogon, boot that sucker up
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[0:24] <gordonDrogon> icecube45, if I give it power will it boot & dhcp?
[0:24] <icecube45> it should
[0:25] <gordonDrogon> can it be powered via usb?
[0:25] <icecube45> yea
[0:25] <icecube45> It has a micro usb port iirc
[0:25] <icecube45> for power
[0:25] <gordonDrogon> mine
[0:25] <gordonDrogon> mini*
[0:25] <icecube45> yea
[0:26] * gordonDrogon searched for a cable
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[0:27] <eutheria> Xbee seems like the only option. But there must be others
[0:27] <shiftplusone> No results for "a cable"
[0:27] <gordonDrogon> a blue light comes on.
[0:27] <gordonDrogon> eutheria, ciseco xrf
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[0:27] <gordonDrogon> many blue lights.
[0:27] <eutheria> Thanks
[0:28] <icecube45> plug it into a monitor
[0:28] <icecube45> hdmi
[0:28] <gordonDrogon> don't have hdmi cable for it.
[0:28] <icecube45> ahh
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[0:29] <gordonDrogon> icecube45, woa. I've powered it off my desktop PC via usb and it seems to have added a usb ethernet device.
[0:30] <icecube45> cool
[0:30] <gordonDrogon> and a usb storage device.
[0:30] <icecube45> yea
[0:30] <icecube45> that would be the flash
[0:30] <icecube45> and/or the sd
[0:31] <gordonDrogon> and I've logged into it via ssh, root/root
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[0:31] <gordonDrogon> Linux arm 3.8.13-bone21 #1 SMP Thu Jun 13 23:52:15 UTC 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
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[0:32] <gordonDrogon> well how about that.
[0:32] <icecube45> yup
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[0:33] <gordonDrogon> it's also dhcp'd via the ethernet cable I've plugged into it too.
[0:33] <icecube45> yup
[0:33] <icecube45> its running debian
[0:33] <gordonDrogon> wheezy too.
[0:33] <gordonDrogon> almost tempted to pwoer wiringPi to it now.
[0:33] <gordonDrogon> *port.
[0:34] <gordonDrogon> although I suspect someone else has or there is a working alternative.
[0:34] <IT_Sean> why wouldn't you?
[0:34] <gordonDrogon> time. money.
[0:34] <icecube45> woman?
[0:34] <icecube45> women*
[0:34] <gordonDrogon> or lack of both...
[0:35] <gordonDrogon> I have a woman. dozing in bed right now which is where I should be too as I have a 7am start to get the bread ready.
[0:35] <gordonDrogon> it powered down nicely too.
[0:36] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I could use the compute module on the back of the moto lapdock rather than a real Pi. it's a little slimmer.
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[0:38] <gordonDrogon> ah well. zed time.
[0:38] <icecube45> have fun
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[1:01] <eutheria> Why do I need a shield for a zigbee module?
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[1:55] <Crossfire0mega> Hey Im getting .018 vDC from the f3 fuse on the bottom of my pi model B 2.0, would that mean it is blown?
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[1:58] <ShorTie> doesn't sound right
[1:58] <ShorTie> the fuse normally will reset it's self after a few i believe
[1:59] <Crossfire0mega> well I dont know whats wrong with it, it wont boot and just has the red led on
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[1:59] <ShorTie> that normally means the sdcard is messed up
[2:00] <Crossfire0mega> Ive tried a few different sd cards
[2:00] <Crossfire0mega> all previously working ones
[2:01] <Crossfire0mega> I just touched the two gpio pins and the end by the sd card together and the red led got brighter
[2:01] <Crossfire0mega> at* not and
[2:01] <ShorTie> hmmm, what voltage you got at tp-1 to tp-2 ??
[2:01] <ShorTie> no no, no touchie gpio pins when on
[2:02] <Crossfire0mega> tp1 is the capacitor by the power plug right?
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[2:02] <ShorTie> it's marked on the board
[2:02] <ShorTie> they both are
[2:02] <Crossfire0mega> tp1 is at 5.21 vDC
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[2:04] <ShorTie> i sortta think you back feed 5v into the 3.3v and fried the criter
[2:04] <Crossfire0mega> theres just a hole at tp2
[2:04] <Crossfire0mega> so theres no fixing it then
[2:05] <ShorTie> both are just holes i believe
[2:05] <ShorTie> not if that is what happened
[2:06] <Crossfire0mega> am I supposed to touch the tp1 and tp2 together?
[2:06] <Crossfire0mega> when I do I get 5.209 vDC
[2:06] <ShorTie> no, measure the voltage across them
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[2:06] <ShorTie> between them
[2:07] <Crossfire0mega> its 5.209
[2:08] <ShorTie> that kinda high
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[2:09] <Crossfire0mega> I guess ill just scrap it
[2:10] <Crossfire0mega> thanks for your help
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[3:26] <HoloPed> hey all,
[3:27] <HoloPed> how can I show an image fullscreen from a python script (without x)
[3:27] <HoloPed> I want to make a picture frame
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[4:14] <[Saint]> HoloPed: you'll need X.
[4:14] <[Saint]> Its kind of a necessity.
[4:15] <[Saint]> Unless you want to convert the image(s) to ascii art first.
[4:15] <[Saint]> (which you almost certainly don't want to do)
[4:16] <HoloPed> how about using pygames
[4:18] <[Saint]> Oh....Hmmmm, you could try fbi.
[4:18] <icecube45> It's too bad I cant find a nice touchscreen for the odroid
[4:18] <[Saint]> I'm not sure if that's in the raspbian repo, though.
[4:20] <[Saint]> Oh, you could also use links2, I suppose.
[4:21] <[Saint]> But I'm not sure whether or not that requires X for image display.
[4:21] <[Saint]> "apt-get install links2 && links2 -g /path/to/image/file.ext"
[4:24] <[Saint]> Or perhaps pqiv
[4:24] <[Saint]> "apt-get install pqiv && pqiv -f /path/to/image/file.ext"
[4:25] <HoloPed> I need more control
[4:25] <HoloPed> I want to display an image and text, and switch images
[4:25] <[Saint]> Or, if you want a fullscreen slideshow, from a given directory, with fading between images, you could do:
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[4:25] <[Saint]> pqiv -fFs /path/to/dir
[4:25] <[Saint]> fillscreen, fade, slideshow
[4:26] <HoloPed> Is there a way to turn off/on the video signal ?
[4:26] <HoloPed> so i can put the monitor to sleep at certain times
[4:26] <[Saint]> It should already be doing so.
[4:26] <[Saint]> There should already be an idle timeout set.
[4:28] <HoloPed> no, I dont want idle timeout
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[4:28] <HoloPed> I want to control it myself
[4:28] <HoloPed> off at 10am, on at 5pm
[4:28] <HoloPed> that kind of thing
[4:29] <[Saint]> Make a cron job that twiddles /etc/kbd/config I guess.
[4:29] <[Saint]> The two params relevant to this cause would be:
[4:29] <[Saint]> BLANK_TIME=
[4:29] <[Saint]> POWERDOWN_TIME=
[4:29] <HoloPed> I doubt I would be able to set it up in the OS
[4:30] <HoloPed> I need to find a way to do it via code
[4:30] <HoloPed> as I want different hours for weekday/weekends
[4:30] <[Saint]> Entirely possible with cron.
[4:30] <HoloPed> ok
[4:30] <HoloPed> i'll look into it
[4:30] <HoloPed> thanks
[4:30] <[Saint]> "man cron" is your firend.
[4:31] <[Saint]> There is /probably/ several other ways to achieve this, but the way I would go about it personally is as I listed above.
[4:32] <[Saint]> A cron task that twiddles the required values in /etc/kbd/config
[4:32] <[Saint]> I do a very similar thing with hdparm
[4:32] <[Saint]> (to tell it when it should, and shouldn't, spin down my external drfives)
[4:32] <[Saint]> *drives
[4:33] <icecube45> O god.. this irks me so much
[4:34] <icecube45> No touchscreens for the odroid
[4:34] <HoloPed> wahts an odroid
[4:34] <[Saint]> I suspect there are.
[4:34] <icecube45> Look it up, it's a beast of a microcomputer
[4:35] <icecube45> [Saint], none that I can find
[4:35] <[Saint]> I suspect the problem is that you're trying to search for Odroid specific touchscreens.
[4:35] <icecube45> with android and such
[4:35] <[Saint]> When in fact there is no such thing.
[4:35] <icecube45> [Saint], i've found screens that work, but not small enough for me
[4:35] <[Saint]> Right. See, that's *very* different to "no touchscreens for Odroid"
[4:36] <[Saint]> ;)
[4:36] <icecube45> yea yea XD
[4:36] <icecube45> most of them actually have issues though
[4:36] <[Saint]> The little TFT module Adafruit sells would work just fine.
[4:36] <[Saint]> The only issue would be interfacing with it wouldn;t be plug&play
[4:36] <icecube45> I need a ~7' touchscreen
[4:37] <icecube45> 7"*
[4:37] <icecube45> Making a tablet
[4:37] <icecube45> I'll most likely just stick with the beagle though
[4:37] <icecube45> b/c of the lcd cape
[4:37] <[Saint]> Wow...you're going through with that.
[4:37] <icecube45> yea
[4:37] <icecube45> because I found parts
[4:37] <icecube45> Caluclated the size/weight
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[4:37] <icecube45> price
[4:37] <icecube45> and compared pros/cons vs a nexus 7
[4:38] <[Saint]> It would still be cheaper to just buy an old tablet.
[4:38] <[Saint]> Dramatically so.
[4:38] <icecube45> yea.. but I have a ton of the required parts here
[4:38] <icecube45> on me..
[4:38] <icecube45> and I need a project
[4:38] <icecube45> and the learning experience
[4:39] <[Saint]> A tablet with similar spec to the raspi, and a 7~10" screen will run somewhere in the order of $80 or so
[4:39] <HoloPed> does the ordiod have any GPIO pins /
[4:39] <icecube45> It doesnt as far as I can tell
[4:39] <[Saint]> (keep in mind the raspi is basically a cellphone from early 2008)
[4:39] <icecube45> Yea, it doesnt
[4:39] <HoloPed> fail
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[4:40] <icecube45> HoloPed, its a nice little beast though
[4:40] <HoloPed> I guess
[4:40] <[Saint]> HoloPed: its not a fail at all, its an entirely different intended market.
[4:40] <icecube45> yea
[4:40] <HoloPed> I guess
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[4:41] * [Saint] has the U2, U3, and X3 Odroid devices
[4:41] <icecube45> nice
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[4:41] <icecube45> The X3 is a real beast
[4:41] <[Saint]> Yeah, its pretty nice.
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[4:41] <icecube45> just for a tablet.. too bulky
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[4:42] <[Saint]> I also have several STE Snowballs.
[4:42] <icecube45> where as with the beagle, it has a nice cape for a touchscren
[4:42] <icecube45> screen*
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[4:43] <[Saint]> The STE Snowball is the NovaThor U85** dev board
[4:43] <[Saint]> If you get in quickly, before they all dry up, you can still get one.
[4:43] <[Saint]> It works out to about ~$50USD
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[4:52] <Malabal> Hello all, I'm wondering if someone is available to provide some information on whether or not a Raspberry Pi could be configured to some requirements (albeit simple ones) for a home networking server solution?
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[4:53] <[Saint]> 800MHz dual core default clock, OCable to 1.2GHz (stable), 1GB DDR2 RAM, a metric craptonne of onboard sensors (GPS, magnemometor, thermostat, barometer, 3-axis accelerometer, ambient light sensor), up to 8GB of (pretty bloody fast) NAND flash, USB OTG for easy writing of system images, Mali 400 GPU (not a beast, but, not too shabby either), onboard WiFi (802.11B/G/N), BT 4.0 (low power), onboard battery backed RTC, serial, JTAG, UBOOT, ViVo,
[4:53] <[Saint]> amplified stereo line in/out, runs Android and Ubuntu out of the box...etc, etc, etc.
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[4:53] <[Saint]> icecube45: ^
[4:53] <[Saint]> All that, for ~$50 USD
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[4:54] <[Saint]> (it used to cost ~$300 USD - but, they never achieved the desired market saturation, and Raspberry Pi and Beagle* killed it quite effectively.
[4:54] <[Saint]> )
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[4:55] <[Saint]> So, now, Calao Systems is dropping the remaining stock like a hot rock.
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[4:55] <[Saint]> If you want one, get in quick, because there's only a hundred or so left.
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[4:56] <[Saint]> Gah. Sorry. Its the NovaThor A95**
[4:56] <[Saint]> Not the U85**
[4:57] <Malabal> Could a Raspberry Pi be configured in this setup: 1. Accessible remotely via VPN, then once connected to to the Pi use that to VNC to other windows machines on the home network; so I don't have to port forward a whole heap of unsecure VNC ports to the world wide interwebs?
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[4:58] <[Saint]> It could, yes. But, really, there's nothing particularly wrong with port forwarding.
[4:58] <[Saint]> Assuming your firewall is sane.
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[4:58] <[Saint]> VNC isn't going to be particularly fantastic, however.
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[4:58] <Malabal> hah - it's a home grade netgear router, about 3+ years old. I doubt it's particularly good.
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[4:59] <Malabal> then the issue is my vnc program doesn't offer encryption without a paid license, so I'm just broadcasting everything for everyone to see
[5:00] <Malabal> not that i've got sensitive information on the home network, I'm just making a tin foil hat, so to speak
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[5:00] <pksato> you can use ssh to tunel other ip connection.
[5:00] <[Saint]> Do you actually *need* full remote desktop viewing, or do you just want to occasionally execute on a remote machine and pipe the output elsewhere?
[5:01] <[Saint]> IF you don't need full remote desktop, I'd suggest ssh with X forwarding.
[5:01] <pksato> I some times use ssh to tunel rdp or vnc connection to intranet server.
[5:01] <[Saint]> That way you'll be able to a: multiplex down to a single connection, b: encrypt the session, c: compress the session
[5:01] <Malabal> its more-so for fixing issues/tech support for the GF while I'm not at home, particularly for niggles on the htpc
[5:02] <[Saint]> X forwarding sounds as though it would be sufficient.
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[5:02] <[Saint]> Use the pi as the host for ssh tunnelling to the rest of the network.
[5:03] <[Saint]> X forwarding, ....win.
[5:03] <[Saint]> ...
[5:03] <[Saint]> Profit? :)
[5:04] <Malabal> interesting, I did a quick google of X forwarding - it seems its essentially VNC/desktop sharing but over a unix platform, which has been around for decades?
[5:04] <[Saint]> But, really, honestly, there's nothing particularly wrong with forwarding a bunch of ports that (I assume) sit behind NAT and hence causes the issue at hand.
[5:04] <Malabal> what would VNC provide that x fowarding doesn't?
[5:05] <[Saint]> VNC mirrors the entire desktop session. All of it. Everything that happens on the host screen is visible on the client.
[5:06] <[Saint]> X forwarding allows you to execute a task, but pipe the display output to a remote location.
[5:06] <[Saint]> So, to put it simply, "it allows you to view a single application, rather than the entire screen"
[5:06] <Textmode> Malabal: wasted bandwidth.
[5:07] <icecube45> thats a nice one [Saint]
[5:07] <icecube45> but
[5:07] <icecube45> does it have a nouse touchscreen
[5:07] <icecube45> XD
[5:07] <icecube45> nice*
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[5:08] <[Saint]> ssh also allows you to have VERY fine grained control over who connects.
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[5:08] <[Saint]> Even if your firewall was wide open, it would still be entirely possible to secure the ssh session.
[5:09] <[Saint]> (well, to an extent, I mean, if the firewall _was_ wide open, anyone could just undo any configuration you made to that effect...but, yeah)
[5:09] <[Saint]> sshd_config allows you to very trivially dictate who can connect to the session.
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[5:09] <[Saint]> You can limit it by username, group, host, MAC, or any combination of them.
[5:10] <icecube45> also
[5:10] <icecube45> [Saint],
[5:10] <icecube45> link to a place to buy the snowball?
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[5:13] <[Saint]> http://www.calao-store.com/epages/61428605.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61428605/Categories/Calculateurs_Mono-Carte
[5:14] <[Saint]> *C02 SNOWBALL PDK is the one you want.
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[5:14] <icecube45> thanks
[5:14] <[Saint]> http://www.calao-store.com/epages/61428605.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61428605/Products/905-00024-B01
[5:14] <[Saint]> full option, 8GB NAND
[5:14] <icecube45> now, if I find a nice touchscreen
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[5:14] <icecube45> haha
[5:15] <[Saint]> They're ALL the same price, so, you don't want to get the 4GB one without WiFi or BT or RTC
[5:15] <[Saint]> I have put quite a few people on to this device, and, a few of them have gotten shitty at me because they ordered the wrong one.
[5:16] <[Saint]> (like its my fault...but, I digress...)
[5:16] <icecube45> haha
[5:16] <icecube45> ugh.. euros
[5:16] <icecube45> XD
[5:16] <icecube45> time to find a murica site
[5:16] <[Saint]> You won't.
[5:16] <icecube45> ugh
[5:16] <icecube45> that's slightly annoying
[5:16] <icecube45> but no worries
[5:17] <[Saint]> At least, not at the price Calao offers them at.
[5:17] <icecube45> If I find a touchscreen for this, it saves me a ton of space
[5:17] <icecube45> well
[5:17] <icecube45> depending on the screen
[5:18] <[Saint]> For reference, with todays exchange, 35€ is ~$47USD, or, ~£26 GBP
[5:19] <[Saint]> IFF my math holds up.
[5:19] <[Saint]> (which I hope it does)
[5:19] <icecube45> i for one welcome our new bitcoin overlords
[5:19] <[Saint]> Nice idea, terrible implementation, pretty much doomed.
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[5:19] <icecube45> Eh, i've made money off of it
[5:20] <icecube45> bought some pc parts
[5:20] <[Saint]> "Big Banking" and "Johnny Corporate" are NEVER going to let this fly.
[5:20] <icecube45> true dat
[5:20] <icecube45> I feel that bitcoin isnt going to survive
[5:20] <icecube45> but the concept will
[5:20] <icecube45> the technology that is
[5:21] <[Saint]> The situation has repeated itself several times over the course of history.
[5:21] <[Saint]> And, the reserve banks never flinched.
[5:21] <[Saint]> Never even batted an eyelid.
[5:22] <[Saint]> Magic Internet money is a cool idea, but, there are far too many people that are far too heavily invested, to ever let this get off the ground in a largely meaningful way.
[5:22] <icecube45> yea
[5:22] <[Saint]> It also doesn't help that the industry, like Big Banking, is rife with corruption.
[5:22] <icecube45> I can't complain though, I have some bitcoin sitting around, i've used it, made money off of it
[5:23] <icecube45> if it survives
[5:23] <icecube45> great
[5:23] <[Saint]> Sooooooooooooooo many exchanges have shafted their userbase.
[5:23] <icecube45> if it doesnt
[5:23] <icecube45> no biggie
[5:23] <icecube45> the community needs some work
[5:23] <[Saint]> Running away with millions of dollars on their customers wallets, and then crying about getting hacked.
[5:23] <[Saint]> Suuuuuuuure, hacked. Right.
[5:23] <icecube45> mtgox?
[5:23] <icecube45> Yea, everyone hates mtgox..
[5:24] <[Saint]> Among others.
[5:24] <icecube45> I only know of mtgox
[5:24] <icecube45> and some small shadey ones
[5:24] <icecube45> that you shouldnt have trusted in the first place
[5:24] <[Saint]> That's the largest profile one, sure.
[5:24] <[Saint]> What people expected...I have no idea.
[5:24] <icecube45> yea
[5:25] <icecube45> people were warning about mtgox for a long time
[5:25] <[Saint]> I mean, they started of trading Magic the Gathering cards, and WoW in-game tradeable content.
[5:25] <icecube45> yup
[5:25] <icecube45> the exchange was 100% php..
[5:26] <[Saint]> They got very big, and, I guess one or more of the group looked at the situation and said "Hey, these guys are giving us millions of dollars worth of magic internet money, they we can't be held legally accountable for if we were to steal it...and, we can always just claim we got haXorzd"
[5:27] <icecube45> yea
[5:27] <[Saint]> There's a LOT of evidence to suggest that MTGox was quietly shifting out millions into private wallets before they went down.
[5:28] <[Saint]> They knew.
[5:28] <icecube45> they did
[5:28] <icecube45> people know they stole coins
[5:28] <icecube45> the coins actually started moving recently
[5:28] <icecube45> I think the best thing was when they "remembered" about a wallet
[5:30] <[Saint]> They also knew for a very long time that the hash deduplication algorithm was horribly broken, and that it was possible to do a bazillion micro-transfers until a hash collision was inevitably hit.
[5:30] <icecube45> yea
[5:30] <icecube45> they were just shit
[5:31] <[Saint]> Its all a trust thing, I suppose.
[5:32] <[Saint]> And, people learned a valuable lesson.
[5:32] <icecube45> yea
[5:32] <icecube45> plus
[5:32] <icecube45> they proved
[5:32] <icecube45> time
[5:32] <icecube45> after time
[5:32] <icecube45> that they shouldnt be trusted
[5:33] <[Saint]> That dude that has like a bajillion raspberrypis and costom boards pumping out a couple of Terahashes a second springs to mind.
[5:33] <[Saint]> *custom
[5:33] <icecube45> asics
[5:34] <icecube45> yea.. btc mining is dead
[5:34] <[Saint]> I think he's shifted to the raspi compute module now.
[5:34] <icecube45> unless you have asics
[5:34] <[Saint]> I got in early, made myself a reasonable amount, and then quietly exited the market.
[5:34] <icecube45> Same
[5:34] <icecube45> I still have a bit
[5:35] <icecube45> holding a bit of an alternative crypto
[5:35] <[Saint]> I have 2BTC left in a wallet for safe keeping.
[5:35] <icecube45> nice
[5:35] <icecube45> I just spent .7 btc
[5:35] <icecube45> on pc parts
[5:36] <icecube45> which are getting here tomorrow
[5:36] <icecube45> :D
[5:36] <icecube45> all except the damn harddrive
[5:36] <[Saint]> When I exited the market, I sold off 24 BTC, @ ~900USD each
[5:37] <[Saint]> Now I believe the price is substantially lower.
[5:37] <[Saint]> Around ~400USD IIRC
[5:37] <icecube45> its currently at 600 usd
[5:37] <icecube45> give or take 20 bucks
[5:37] <[Saint]> Oh? Huh. More than I thought.
[5:37] <[Saint]> I hadn't been watching it.
[5:37] <icecube45> I have a ticker
[5:37] <[Saint]> Ah.
[5:37] <icecube45> in the bottom of my browser
[5:38] <[Saint]> Its funny to think that I made those coins on a rig that almost certainly wouldn't produce ANYTHING in todays pools.
[5:38] <icecube45> true dat
[5:38] <icecube45> i actually am retiring my miner with those pc parts
[5:38] <icecube45> using money my miner made..
[5:39] <[Saint]> Quad dual-core 2.2GHZ CPU w/ dual dual-SLI.
[5:39] <icecube45> haha
[5:39] <icecube45> radeon 7850 here
[5:39] <icecube45> made $10 a day
[5:39] <[Saint]> errr, quad SLI. Why did I word that so weirdly?
[5:40] <icecube45> dunno
[5:41] <icecube45> have you tried rebooting your brain?
[5:41] <[Saint]> At that time, I think I had the GeForce 9600GT
[5:41] <icecube45> ah
[5:41] <[Saint]> Well, s/the/four of the bastards/
[5:42] <[Saint]> Now, I have GeForce GTX 780
[5:42] <icecube45> nice
[5:42] <icecube45> im sticking with the 7850
[5:43] <[Saint]> I have four of them, but, I blew one up, and three isn't particularly useful, so I removed the excess card and went back down to regular old SLI.
[5:44] <[Saint]> I'm currently debating whether or not it is worth replacing it, or, selling the three that remain and using a bit of additional cash to buy a couple of monster GPUs.
[5:44] <[Saint]> The hilarious thing is, ...I'm not a gamer.
[5:44] <icecube45> ..
[5:44] <icecube45> why then?
[5:45] <[Saint]> Video processing, mainly.
[5:45] <icecube45> ah
[5:45] <[Saint]> realtime DVD transcoding/streaming.
[5:46] <icecube45> ah
[5:47] <[Saint]> (and, I got a really good deal :))
[5:47] <[Saint]> I basically got two cards for free.
[5:47] <icecube45> nice
[5:48] <[Saint]> Someone else ordered them, but never picked them up, so the company sat on them for about a month and then ended up letting me have them at wholesale rates, just to recoup costs.
[5:48] <icecube45> niiice
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[5:49] <[Saint]> So, I either got two cards free, or paid approximately 55% for each of them.
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[5:49] <icecube45> nice
[5:50] <icecube45> wish I had entered it earlier
[5:51] <[Saint]> I got in there /juuuuuuuust/ on the edge of where Average Joe with a reasonably powerful gaming rig could still make a killing.
[5:51] <icecube45> i got in a bit after that
[5:51] <[Saint]> These days, the rig I have now, although an absolute beast, is practically nothing.
[5:52] <icecube45> I made about 1.5 btc
[5:52] <icecube45> and 1 of that wasnt from mining
[5:52] <icecube45> some altcoin idiots paid me 1 btc to change 3 lines of code
[5:52] <icecube45> and a conf file
[5:52] <[Saint]> There's pretty much no way to actually make anything unless you're part of a syndicate.
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[5:52] <[Saint]> A lone miner needs to *serious* hardware these days.
[5:52] <icecube45> yea
[5:52] <icecube45> D:
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[5:53] <icecube45> I actually run a bunch of pools
[5:53] <icecube45> making a decent amount
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[5:53] <[Saint]> As evidenced by the fact that a dude has a bloody aircraft hanger full of raspberrypis driving 8 APICs each.
[5:53] <[Saint]> a bloody *aircraft hanger*!
[5:53] <icecube45> ugh
[5:53] <[Saint]> *Full*, of raspberrypis. :)
[5:53] <icecube45> pools are the way to go
[5:53] <icecube45> :D
[5:58] <[Saint]> Our hackerspace decided to spend a foolish amount of money on a raspberrypi/block erupter/MPI cluster when I was ill in the hospital for a month or so.
[5:58] <icecube45> ugh
[5:58] <icecube45> I spent 300 bucks on my mining rig
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[5:59] <icecube45> It was profitable tho
[5:59] <icecube45> a block erupter tho..
[5:59] <[Saint]> I'm the treasurer, and NEVER would've approved such a purchase, but, they decided they wouldn't bother me with financial matters while I was undergoing radiotherapy, and decided to blow the entire hackerspace budget.
[5:59] <icecube45> What were you ill with
[6:00] <icecube45> if you dont mind my question
[6:00] <kiely> http://imgur.com/jnJdxZ3 it works!
[6:00] <kiely> wooo
[6:00] <[Saint]> Bowel cancer.
[6:00] <icecube45> grats kiely
[6:00] <icecube45> That sucks mate, did you kick it in the ass?
[6:00] <kiely> 35V downconverter, but it should be pretty efficient
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[6:01] <icecube45> nice kiely
[6:01] <[Saint]> Kinda. It left its mark on me, though.
[6:01] <icecube45> Well I mean.. better than cancer, right?
[6:01] <icecube45> And yea.. chemo?
[6:01] <[Saint]> I mean, I don't have cancer, but, I don't have a small bowel anymore either... ;)
[6:01] <kiely> lets see how it handles stock settings!
[6:01] <[Saint]> And now I poop in a bag stuck on to my abdomen.
[6:01] <icecube45> Yup, cancer's a bitch
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[6:02] <icecube45> But please, continue your story
[6:02] <icecube45> Did you kick your guys in the asses?
[6:02] <icecube45> for making such a stupid purchase?
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[6:05] <[Saint]> Long story short, they built a rig that was putting out about 8GH/s, was horribly unstable and fell over if you looked at it funny, and spent well over a thousand dollars doing so.
[6:05] <icecube45> O god..
[6:05] <icecube45> and only 8 gh/s?
[6:05] <icecube45> I mean.. maybe if you actually got them to buy decent asics..
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[6:05] <[Saint]> I pointed out that one can buy a readymade box that will do 10GH/s 24/7, for ~$200
[6:05] <[Saint]> They were not amused.
[6:06] <[Saint]> *I* was not amused.
[6:06] <icecube45> O god..
[6:07] <[Saint]> For around $2K, you can buy a ready-built 1TH+ rig
[6:07] <icecube45> yea
[6:07] <icecube45> I mean..
[6:07] <icecube45> wow
[6:07] <[Saint]> And, given a fat enough pipe, that'll pay for itself in a few months.
[6:07] <icecube45> if they did research
[6:07] <icecube45> you guys could have done well
[6:07] <[Saint]> Yeah.
[6:07] <icecube45> ugh
[6:07] <icecube45> that annoys me
[6:08] <rikkib> Hmmm 285mA into a 12Ah SLA... I don't think that needs a regulator...
[6:08] <rikkib> 17v 285mA solar cell
[6:09] <[Saint]> The whole idea was that they justified emptying the hackerspace kitty because they had delusions of this raspberrypi rig putting out around 800GH/s and paying for itself very quickly.
[6:09] <icecube45> hahahahahahahaha
[6:09] <icecube45> 800 gh/s
[6:09] <[Saint]> Next time I go there I'll try and dig up the horribly flawed math they used to figure out that it would pay for itself.
[6:09] <[Saint]> It was awful.
[6:10] <icecube45> Haha
[6:10] <[Saint]> I felt like a bit of a dick ripping the idea to shreds, nut it had to be done.
[6:10] <[Saint]> *but it
[6:10] <icecube45> O god it did
[6:10] <icecube45> I mean..
[6:10] <icecube45> Im really pained for you mate
[6:10] <icecube45> if you were there
[6:10] <icecube45> you could have gotten a nice rig made..
[6:10] <icecube45> and made the big moeny
[6:10] <icecube45> money*
[6:11] <[Saint]> Yeah, the idea was that it would be a source of income for us, that we could trivially expand upon (by adding more and more raspberrypis and hub/block erupter unit).
[6:11] <[Saint]> This did not eventuate.
[6:11] <icecube45> yea
[6:12] <icecube45> If they had consulted you..
[6:12] <icecube45> it would have been feasable..
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[6:13] <[Saint]> Why they used raspberrypis in the first place is beyond me.
[6:13] * BlackCoiner is now known as icecube45
[6:13] <icecube45> i dont even know
[6:13] <[Saint]> "Hey, lets put this throughput critical thing, and a device with a well known, and well documented, throughput bottleneck! Yay!"
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[6:14] <icecube45> haha
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[6:15] <[Saint]> Part of the idea was so that the guys got to learn about building an MPI based cluster, which they did, so I guess it wasn't a total loss at the end of the day.
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[6:15] <icecube45> yay
[6:15] <[Saint]> But I don't think I've ever spent so much time with my forehead in my palm as I did that day.
[6:15] <icecube45> haha
[6:15] <icecube45> Man..
[6:15] <icecube45> if they actually did research
[6:15] <icecube45> im getting angry for you now
[6:15] <icecube45> XD
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[6:17] <kiely> wow I can so tell the difference between my huge overclock and stock
[6:17] <kiely> :(
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[6:37] <swiss> are there any diablo 2 clones that run on an rpi?
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[8:29] <kiely> I'm reading 300mA peaks while overclocked
[8:29] <kiely> .25 idle
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[8:39] <kiely> That's kind of weird
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[8:42] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[8:43] <kiely> That doesn't make sense
[8:43] <gordonDrogon> the overclocking is on-demand.
[8:44] <kiely> If I have 8x2700mAh batteries
[8:44] <gordonDrogon> don't overclock then :)
[8:44] <kiely> 21600mAh, that's 50.4 hours of runtime at .30A
[8:44] <kiely> not calculating efficiency
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[8:44] <gordonDrogon> I ran a Pi for a shade over 24 hours on a 15AH "Anker" usb charger battery pack.
[8:44] <kiely> but that should be like 2 days on batteries...
[8:45] <kiely> I put it on the multimeter and the inductor whineeeeeeeeees
[8:46] <kiely> And that's WITH a external device connected
[8:46] <gordonDrogon> what inductor?
[8:47] <kiely> oh
[8:47] <kiely> gordonDrogon: http://imgur.com/jnJdxZ3
[8:47] <kiely> I built that earlier
[8:47] <kiely> switching this time ^_^
[8:49] <gordonDrogon> ah neat.
[8:50] <kiely> LM2596
[8:50] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[8:50] <gordonDrogon> I've looked at them - worked out it's cheaper to buy ready built modules off ebay,complete with adjustables and LED voltmeters ...
[8:50] <gordonDrogon> which I don't think is right, however...
[8:51] <kiely> Yeah
[8:51] <kiely> Mine was about $11 + shipping, with all the parts
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[8:51] <kiely> And I had fun building it, and I know it's a real TI LM2596, with high quality panasonic FM caps
[8:52] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[8:52] <gordonDrogon> I'm looking at using a bunch to provide usb power sockets in my summer house, powered off a solar/lead acid system.
[8:53] <gordonDrogon> I need some odd voltages - like 6.3 and 9 too for the dect phones, base stations, etc.
[8:53] <gordonDrogon> these are cheape enough for that.
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[8:53] <kiely> Mine is fixed 5V
[8:54] <kiely> surprised it's actually 5.01V output, my 7805 was 4.89V
[8:54] <kiely> Guess that's what you get when you buy real quality parts
[8:56] <gordonDrogon> it's all inside a +/-5 % tolerance.
[8:56] <kiely> https://i.imgur.com/OZINu0Q.png
[8:56] <kiely> just built that with an LED and switch, works fantastic
[8:56] <kiely> Heatsink no longer boils like the 7805 did :D
[8:56] <gordonDrogon> indeed!
[8:56] <gordonDrogon> I use a separate 7805 smps replacemet unit myself though
[8:57] <gordonDrogon> it does cost �6 though.
[8:57] <icecube45> oh, hey gordonDrogon
[8:57] <kiely> what's smps?
[8:57] <gordonDrogon> switch mode power supply.
[8:57] <kiely> ah
[8:57] <gordonDrogon> what you have there!
[8:57] <gordonDrogon> http://uk.farnell.com/xp-power/sr10s05/switching-regulator-5v-1a-o-p/dp/1861095?Ntt=sr10s05
[8:57] <kiely> I saw 7805 switchers on digikey
[8:58] <kiely> here's the back, kinda messy and disorganized http://imgur.com/G8UXnv9
[8:58] <gordonDrogon> that's the ones I use - they're drop-in replacements.
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[8:58] <gordonDrogon> ah perf board. Never used that much - always used stripboard.
[8:58] <gordonDrogon> icecube45, morning.
[8:59] <icecube45> good sleep?
[8:59] <gordonDrogon> mostly.
[8:59] <gordonDrogon> not enough, but my fault for staying up later last night..
[8:59] <icecube45> haha
[8:59] <gordonDrogon> however my bread is now proving and will be in the oven soon.
[9:00] <kiely> There's a more efficient switcher
[9:01] <icecube45> anyone here have autocad?
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[9:08] <gordonDrogon> breakfast time.
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[12:54] <shiftplusone> Any suggestion on how to reliably corrupt an sd card?
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[12:55] <gordonDrogon> remove it from a Pi while the Pi is writing to it.
[12:55] <tanuva> Write some random bytes to a random location on the block device?
[12:55] <gordonDrogon> tanuva, that'l corrupt the filesystem - maybe not the SD card itself.
[12:55] <shiftplusone> no luck so far
[12:55] <tanuva> true
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[12:56] <gordonDrogon> Hm. try a cheaper SD card - get one of Ryans ;)
[12:56] <shiftplusone> heh
[12:56] <shiftplusone> Got a pi rigged up to turn off another pi at random times while the other one writes files
[12:56] <gordonDrogon> ok
[12:57] <shiftplusone> but it won't die
[12:57] <gordonDrogon> that's good though - more or less "normal" Linux behaviour. you might lose a file or 2 at boot/fsck time.
[12:57] <gordonDrogon> but the media ought to be OK.
[12:57] <gordonDrogon> I think early SD cards didn't cope with abrupt loss of power that well.
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> also make sure you really are writing and it's not just being buffered up in RAM before the commit.
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[12:59] <shiftplusone> Gordon says that /dev/zero shouldn't buffer into memory, but I'm not convinced. Any way to make 100% sure? Maybe write 1MB files and sync in between?
[12:59] <gordonDrogon> call fsync() from a C program.
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[13:00] <gordonDrogon> the typical way in disk benchmarks is to write a file double the size of RAM, so dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=1M count=1024 should do it
[13:01] <shiftplusone> I'll let his idea run for a bit and then come up with something else when he come back, I guess.
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> one the ACT led is on solid, pull the plug.
[13:01] <shiftplusone> ah.... ACT LED... good thing to check. thanks
[13:02] <shiftplusone> yeah, it's quite solid
[13:02] <gordonDrogon> should be writing all the time then (or reading - but that's unlikely reading from /dev/zero)
[13:02] <shiftplusone> aye
[13:07] <shiftplusone> Maybe I need to do something with system files to make it fail in a more spectacular way, but that's cheating
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[13:09] <gordonDrogon> what's the aim - corrupt SD card or corrupt filing system?
[13:11] <shiftplusone> To see how cards fail
[13:11] <shiftplusone> due to power loss
[13:11] <shiftplusone> seems like you might have to actually be fiddling with system files at the time... or I need more cards to test
[13:12] <gordonDrogon> system files and user files are all the same thing.
[13:13] <shiftplusone> what do you mean?
[13:13] <shiftplusone> can fiddling with file x mess up file y?
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> it shouldn't but not sure what you mean by system files - a file is a file, there's nothing special about /etc/foo and /home/pi/anotherfoo
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[13:15] <shiftplusone> of course
[13:15] <shiftplusone> but the aim is to make linux unbootable due to power loss
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> I have lots of experience running Linux boxes remotely in dodgy power situations - you can reboot/crash/pull the plug on them in the lab and you think they're fine, then one day the power will go and it won't reboot.
[13:15] <shiftplusone> the question is whether I have to be fiddling with files crucial to booting at the time
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> and it'll be 500 miles away )-:
[13:16] <shiftplusone> because from other people's experience, sd corruption can take the whole fs out
[13:16] <shiftplusone> heh
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> the issue is the fsck - if the boot-time check thinks the filesystem is really bad, it will stop and become interactive. that's when you lose.
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> most of the time you'll get away with it and it'll fsck ok.
[13:16] <shiftplusone> That's the aim
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> sd corruption is different from filesystem corruption though.
[13:16] <shiftplusone> the aim is to get fsck to find a problem
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> sd corruption is like a bad sector on a disk - but worse IME.
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[13:20] <shiftplusone> great... where do I get me one of those?
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[13:21] <gordonDrogon> from Ryan :)
[13:21] <shiftplusone> Where does he live?
[13:21] <gordonDrogon> Pi's for proper industrial use need to either run from RAM or have the root read-only.
[13:22] <shiftplusone> ah... I see failure, I think... at least a sign of it!
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> hurrah :)
[13:22] <shiftplusone> nope... all good =(
[13:23] <Textmode> better luck next time?
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[13:39] <gordonDrogon> or worse luck...
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[13:43] <plugwash_> <gordonDrogon> the issue is the fsck - if the boot-time check thinks the filesystem is really bad, it will stop and become interactive. that's when you lose. <- I haven't played with it myself but I belive it's possible to setup a minimal ssh server in the initrd to allow you to recover access in that scenario
[13:44] <[Saint]> I...what....Hmmmm.
[13:44] <[Saint]> I have 15MB of RAM I can't acount for.
[13:45] <crippa> hello. I just finished to install postfix and dovecot on my pi to use it as a mail server. I can use 'mail' to send emails, but not for reading them: I alwaays get the 'No mails for user XXX' message whenever I run 'mail'. Why is this happening?
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[13:45] <[Saint]> 'free -m' lists total available as 433
[13:45] <crippa> NB my emails are stored in ~/Maildir/new
[13:45] <[Saint]> The GPU split is 64
[13:45] <[Saint]> So, there's 15MB I can't account for.
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[13:51] <pksato> crippa: mail (mailx) dont support Maildir format, user mutt or some way to convert Maildir to mbox.
[13:52] <crippa> noooo
[13:52] <crippa> to bad
[13:52] <crippa> I've heard that mutt is a mess to configure
[13:52] <crippa> and use.. :)
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[13:53] <nid0> plugwash_: an alternative for the pi at least (or any debian system) is to edit /etc/default/rcS and change FSCKFIX=no to yes, when it then needs to run fsck at boot itll run it with -y instead of -p, so will fix pretty much anything automatically
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[13:54] <nid0> of course, fsck may nuke anything really broken/lost info without any input from you by doing that, but by that stage its pretty much toast anyway
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[13:56] <plugwash_> yeah, it depends how much relative value you place on the continued operation of the device vs preserving data on the device
[13:58] <shiftplusone> isn't FSCKFIX=no default?
[13:58] <[Saint]> [saint@saint-raspberrypi ~]$ dmesg |grep Memo
[13:58] <[Saint]> [ 0.000000] Memory policy: Data cache writeback
[13:58] <[Saint]> [ 0.000000] Memory: 435200K/458752K available (7370K kernel code, 388K rwdata, 2360K rodata, 271K init, 880K bss, 23552K reserved)
[13:59] <[Saint]> gah.
[13:59] <[Saint]> sorry.
[13:59] <nid0> shiftplusone: yes
[14:01] <shiftplusone> sorry.... I failed at reading what you said
[14:01] <nid0> by default fsck will run with -p which will preen the system (fix minor errors automatically) but as gordonDrogon mentioned will drop you to an interactive console for any serious problems
[14:02] <nid0> if you change FSCKFIX to yes, it runs with -y as well as -p and so will automatically fix anything so *should* never drop to an interactive shell
[14:02] <nid0> but, depending on the problem, "fixing anything" could mean toasting half your os's crucial content and dumping the fragments into lost+found
[14:03] <Textmode> heh
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[14:03] <Textmode> but in that case, its probably fired anyway, as you said.
[14:03] <Textmode> fried*
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[14:13] <gordonDrogon> I've seen what looks like an empty filesysystem with virtually everything moved to /lost+found )-:
[14:13] <gordonDrogon> not recently ,but it can happen.
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> I did put together a system that ran entirely in RAM once - I think there are scripts out there that can do it better than mine though.
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> dsx:~$ df -h
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[14:15] <gordonDrogon> /dev/ram0 136M 88M 49M 65% /
[14:16] <gordonDrogon> I built PBXs based on that - all had linux, asterisk, apache & php running from a big ram disk.
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> some are still running - that's my home one. 448 days uptime too.
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[15:02] <goneeuro> Hey guys quick question, I was thinking of using my pi to sort my email for me with filters. What distro and email client wound you recomend. I was gonna have it be a backup NAS also. Speed doesnt matter because it will run backups in the middle of the night.
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[15:17] <gordonDrogon> distro: raspbian.
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[15:18] <gordonDrogon> I'd not use it for my own personal email myself, but I have a somewhat different (old) strategy for email. However it would work on a Pi OK. I use the text-based alpin email client and my incoming email is handled by sendmail which then uses procmail to filter incoming email into folders, etc.
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> *Alpine. It came after Pine. (which is not Elm). I've been using pine/alpine for over 20 years now. works for me.
[15:19] <goneeuro> ok. Ill look into it. From online searches Ive been reading about claws and icedove. This will be for gmail and also a domain email from one.com.
[15:20] <goneeuro> Ill google alpine and see what i think. Thanks for the suggestion.
[15:20] <gordonDrogon> icedove is debians packaged version of thunderbird.
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[15:20] <gordonDrogon> I fear it will be too heavy for the Pi.
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[15:21] <gordonDrogon> if your email is externally hosted then make sure you can use imap to get it. then you can access it anywhere and all the inbox, folders, etc. are stored on the server.
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[15:22] <gordonDrogon> alpine is text based - so you'd typically ssh into the box, or open a terminal window (xterm) and run it in the window.
[15:22] <gordonDrogon> I ssh to my remote mail server and run alpine directly on the mail server itself.
[15:26] <goneeuro> ok. Ill give it a shot.
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[15:26] <goneeuro> All i want it to do is sort the mail into folders as it arrives.
[15:27] <goneeuro> gordonDrogon: are the filters easy to setup in alpine?
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[15:31] <gordonDrogon> goneeuro, I think so - I abandoned them in favour of using procmail some years ago.
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> the issue you have is the "arrival". If you use pop or imap to pull the email from the server to your pc/pi then that's when the filtering ought to take place (IMO) to use the filters in alpin, you need to run alpine...
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> the down-side I was finding is when I logged in more than once - and ran pine more than once - the filters would be applied more than once and I'd end up with duplicates in the filders.
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[19:12] <yokisho> hi!! :D
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[19:14] <yokisho> i am trying to get my wifi AP connection always available but x minutes after the connection will be unavailable
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[19:15] <yokisho> i got this message: R8188EU: ERROR ap recv disassoc reason code(8) sta
[19:15] <yokisho> and this: R8188EU: ERROR ap recv deauth reason code(3) sta:
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[19:16] <yokisho> unexpected: hostapd down
[19:16] <yokisho> i don't know why
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[19:21] <yokisho> hello??
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[19:24] <yokisho> so i must restart the service
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[20:34] <gordonDrogon> right. wiringPi updated, tested, etc.
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> and git pushed out.
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[20:50] <yokisho> gordonDrogon, that is for me?
[20:50] <yokisho> ahms, nops, sorry :S
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> yokisho, not particularly - unless you use wiringPi and have one of the new compute modules :)
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[20:52] <brian1001> hi
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[20:52] <plugwash_> hi
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[20:54] <koell> hi i would like to create kind of my "personal mobile cloud" with my pi and 2 wifi sticks. So the first wifi stick connects to my mobile hotspot (mifi) and the second is for my devices to connect to. is it possible to realize that so my devices can still use the hotspot?
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[20:57] <gwildor> hi guys, i am trying to follow the following guide. http://anup.info/blog/2012/10/13/raspberry-pi-mimo-monitor
[20:57] <gwildor> it calls for this package, and i do not see it in the repo's.
[20:57] <gwildor> gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabi
[20:58] <gwildor> closes i see is "gcc-4.6", is this the same package ?
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[21:01] <shiftplusone> gwildor, which distro are you running?
[21:01] <shiftplusone> on your pc, I mean
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[21:03] <plugwash_> koell, very much possible
[21:04] <brian1001> omg that would be cool , i once tried 2 Wifi dongles to switch bewteen my 2 mobile 3G hotspots
[21:04] <brian1001> shift: i tried that with the 2 resistors and it worked with the raspberry, 12v became 3.3
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[21:05] <plugwash_> koell, my usual advice would be to take it a step at a time. get the wifi client working, get the wifi hotspot working (making sure the IP ranges don't overlap), and then set up nat routing between them
[21:06] <koell> plugwash_: i just though this would be cool. so i just need to take my pi everywhere with mobile battery pack and i have a personal cloud, to stream media, backup, tor, etc. :D
[21:06] <brian1001> :)
[21:06] <koell> i wonder no one did this before xD
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[21:09] <mrAZ> koell: http://bit.ly/1mbLzAn
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[21:11] <koell> so it is actually called a hotspot?
[21:11] <mrAZ> depends how you set it up, but most likely yes
[21:11] <gordonDrogon> koell, soulds like a lot to carry about with you though...
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[21:12] <koell> gordonDrogon: just my ipad + notebook. so a pi still finds a place in my bag :D
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> koell, if the mifi allows device to device comms, then you can just make the Pi a client of the mifi, and your devices also clients of the mifi, then cliens can use the Pi as a storage device (assuming that's what you mean as 'cloud')
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[21:13] <gordonDrogon> you'd just run samba on the Pi as normal, but make sure you use encryption on the mifi AP.
[21:13] <koell> gordonDrogon: idk if there is accespoint isolation
[21:14] <gordonDrogon> easy to test - just try it and see if the Pi can ping the devices.
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[21:14] <koell> gordonDrogon: would be okey, but i also would like to use my pi as proxy
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[21:14] <gordonDrogon> I'm now trying to use a moto lapdock with a Pi as a usable system rather than a "real" laptop..
[21:15] <brian1001> gordon: good idea
[21:15] <koell> gordonDrogon: i've seen those, that moto lapdock isnt that cheap :(
[21:15] <geordie> gordonDrogon: how's that working out for you?
[21:15] <gordonDrogon> well - I've just bought one - new off amazon that plus the cables cost me under �100.
[21:15] <koell> i think it is better to wait for hdmipi as screen
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> plusthe cost of the Pi of-course, but I have plenty of those.
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> the keyboard is a bit odd, but I did sit and use it for 3 hours last week while I was waiting for an event.
[21:16] <mrAZ> did anybody here tested pduino on raspbian? if yes which versions?
[21:17] <gordonDrogon> I also used a seaprate mouse rather than the pad thing, but I've never been a fan of them.
[21:17] <koell> gordonDrogon: do u use X then? or cli only?
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> koell, both. mostly ssh'd into Pi's when at my desk.
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[21:18] <gordonDrogon> occasionalyl I run vnc on a pi & my desktop when I need to look at a Pi's screen.
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> vnc is faster than ssh -X
[21:19] <koell> gordonDrogon: do u have any experiences with running the pi 24/7?
[21:19] * mrAZ does not know where he belongs. arduino? raspberry? he is udoo schizooooo !
[21:19] <brian1001> koell: my 2 PI's are 24/7 on since a year now
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> koell, I don't have any current long-term Pi's, but I have other Linux boxes with very long uptimes
[21:20] <brian1001> one is (moderat) overclocked
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> 20:20:10 up 1080 days, 21:29, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.03, 0.05
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> not a pi ..
[21:20] <brian1001> wow 3 years
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> yea, I had to reboot it 3 years ago.
[21:21] <mrAZ> gordonDrogon: that must be still A model?
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> it's a Linux based router stuck in a data centre somewhere...
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> there is no reason a Pi can't be left running 24/7 - it should be stable enough.
[21:22] <brian1001> yes it works excellent
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> I'll shorly be using one 24/7 as the head-end controller for my garden shed/summer house project.
[21:22] <brian1001> cool
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[21:23] <gordonDrogon> the one in the summer house will be powered down, but that's controlled by an ATmega system.
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[21:23] <gordonDrogon> and the ATmega will run 24/7
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[21:23] <gordonDrogon> I write a game once that ran for 22 years - more or less non-stop.
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[21:23] <gordonDrogon> it stopped a week or so ago and I've not re-started it.
[21:24] <brian1001> omg wow!
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[21:24] <gordonDrogon> not sure if I want to. I think it may be time to retire it.
[21:24] <brian1001> what kind of game if i may ask
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[21:24] <koell> lol do u have an USP for it ? :D
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[21:24] <gordonDrogon> MUD - Multi User dungeon. The text-based fore-runner to modern multi-player games.
[21:25] <gordonDrogon> MUDs were very popular 20+ years ago.
[21:25] <brian1001> oh ok
[21:25] <brian1001> (never heard of it...)
[21:25] <koell> those cli like things with lots of phantasy :D
[21:25] <gordonDrogon> mine say 100's of players online at a time - a lot back then.
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[21:25] <gordonDrogon> koell, yea, go north, kill dragon with sword, etc.
[21:25] <koell> "give user xy 5 gold" :D
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> stuff like that.
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> in the days before we had graphics.
[21:26] <mrAZ> today you see it only in the big bang theory
[21:26] <brian1001> Gordon: btw, the test with the 2 resistors worked. (12V - 3.3V GPIO)
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> great!
[21:27] <gordonDrogon> if you have an android phone, get the electrodroid app. it's got all sorts of handy calculations in it.
[21:27] <brian1001> cool! gonna search for it right now :D
[21:28] <brian1001> i will try my other door contacts for fun (they have N/C output connections ...
[21:28] <brian1001> and im gonna buy another PI :D
[21:28] <koell> how much speed do you get on your pi via wifi?
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[21:29] <gordonDrogon> I've never really benchmarked it.
[21:29] <brian1001> me neither
[21:29] <koell> 100 mbit possbl?
[21:29] <gordonDrogon> "fast enough" :)
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> 100Mb might be possible with the right adapter and access point, and no wi-fi noise and ...
[21:30] <pksato> wifi is not super fast per nature.
[21:30] <IT_Sean> "Sufficient"
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> I think the one I'm using in the compute IO board is just a 56Mb one.
[21:30] <brian1001> im curious about the new Wireless AC
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> yea, it only seems to suppoer 54Mb/sec.
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> that's the max over-air symbol rate - data rate is usually half.
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> let me try a test or 2.
[21:32] <koell> do you like the idea of a personal mobile cloud? :3
[21:32] <brian1001> :-)
[21:32] <koell> \o/
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> me? not really. I like to keep things simple and light.
[21:32] <brian1001> what i like about my cloud , is that i dont have to carry it with me
[21:33] <koell> but it is simple and light, and private :)
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> so I have a phone with 3g and wi-fi and a laptop with wi-fi - phone can act as a hotspot/mifi.
[21:33] <brian1001> yes ...
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> laptop vpns home.
[21:33] <koell> brian1001: yeah the problem is, i dont have internet at home. only via hotspot =(
[21:33] <brian1001> koell: ah ! now i understand ...
[21:34] <brian1001> give bt-sync a try, works like a charm on the PI
[21:34] <koell> hmmm... not open source, i will more likely use syncthing if i try it out
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> you could rent a cheap VPS to give you some private storage somewhere.
[21:35] <brian1001> koell: tahts true
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[21:35] <koell> yes but i wouldnt save any private data there.=( im so sad not having inet at home =(
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> ok, Pi was peaking at 16Mb/sec reading a file off my server via wi-Fi and FTP (no encryption)
[21:36] <brian1001> for me it rus fast enough
[21:36] <koell> gordonDrogon: weird, isnt that fast... you mean 16mbit? or 16MB?
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> 16Mega bits per second.
[21:36] <koell> i think it is enough to stream media files?
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[21:37] <koell> my mobile net is only 10mbit so this is fine =)
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> so it would be writing to flash at 1.6 Mega Bytes per second - well inside the flash writing rate.
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> sending the same file back again...
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> it's peaking a little faster - 22Mb/sec.
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[21:38] <koell> thanks for testing =)
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> yes, 26Mb/sec
[21:39] <koell> why is it faster backwards? O_o
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> which is half the air rate of 56Mb/sec.
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> koell, it could be that some of the data was still cached in RAM on the Pi.
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[21:39] <gordonDrogon> I've done lots and lots of wi-fi benchmarking over the years. the advertised rates are the over-the-air symbol rates. actual data rates are half.
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> at best..
[21:40] <koell> so with 300mbit stick i will get >100mbit?
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> then you need to remember that wi-fi is half duplex too. someone sending a file at the same time as you recieving a file will slow it down somewhat.
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> you may be able to get up to 150Mb/sec with a 300Mb dongle, but you'll also need an AP that will support that too.
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> and Gb data connection between the AP and the LAN you're talking to.
[21:42] <koell> gordonDrogon: but if i just copy data from pi to my notebook? it doesnt need the AP then
[21:42] <koell> i really need to try this out :D
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[21:46] <gordonDrogon> if netbook has ethernet then use that :)
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[21:47] <gordonDrogon> I'll always use a wired connection over wireless if I can.
[21:47] <brian1001> yes same here
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[21:47] <koell> brian1001: what do u use your pi('s) for=?
[21:48] <brian1001> one PI is my NAS, and cloud box
[21:48] <koell> :3
[21:48] <koell> owncloud?
[21:48] <brian1001> and the other PI is my debian webserver and playbox :D
[21:48] <brian1001> no that one runs slow on the PI
[21:48] <brian1001> i tried it
[21:48] <brian1001> the owncloud webpage loads extremely slow
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[21:49] <koell> yeah i dont like owncloud too. it is just laggy
[21:49] <brian1001> i tried another cloud open source alternative
[21:49] <brian1001> its so heavy ...
[21:49] <brian1001> (im thinking abuot the name of that alternative, it worked good bascially, its just taht my sister couldn't work with it :D)
[21:49] <koell> i prefer to have a more traditional way like via filemanger or cli
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[21:50] <brian1001> seafile was the name ....
[21:51] <brian1001> seafile did its just pretty well, i cant complain about it
[21:51] <koell> yeah some used that too. but i like those btsync variants more
[21:51] <brian1001> yes me too :) thats why i switched to btsync :D
[21:51] <brian1001> its so easy and works simply great
[21:51] <koell> i dont know of any advantage of owncloud over btsync or rsync etc.
[21:51] <koell> it gets just hyped :D
[21:52] <brian1001> i used to use owncloud to sync 20GB of data through the internet
[21:52] <koell> xD?
[21:52] <brian1001> it worked .....but bt-sync works faster and better here and my pi does all that
[21:52] <brian1001> my private cloud , koell :)
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[21:53] <koell> brian1001: dont you have a small lag when you save a file on your webserver pi? i thought using it as a development machine but im worry about the lag
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[21:54] <brian1001> no , i just save them on my folder on my laptop ...
[21:54] <brian1001> and bt-sync syncs them to the PI
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[21:54] <brian1001> and i connected a external (powered) USB harddisk to the PI
[21:54] <brian1001> 2 TB
[21:54] <gordonDrogon> encryption on the Pi isn't very fast right now.
[21:54] <koell> oh and that is fast enough? i mean if you do web development for example?
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[21:54] <brian1001> oh yes
[21:55] <brian1001> i save WORD files to it , HTML , PHP etc.......
[21:55] <brian1001> even tons of JPEG pictures
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[21:55] <brian1001> and MP3s
[21:55] <koell> :D
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[21:56] <brian1001> bt-sync does it job and i can work everywhere
[21:56] <brian1001> with teh data(harddisk) safely at my office
[21:56] <koell> brian1001: why do u use bt-sync and not samba?
[21:56] <brian1001> koell: i use that too
[21:57] <brian1001> but onky when im in its LAN
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[21:57] <brian1001> (i also work from external locatiosn with my laptop
[21:57] <koell> brian1001: and bt-sync does recognize if you are at LAN?
[21:57] <brian1001> although i find SAMBA a bit slow to be honest
[21:57] <brian1001> yes
[21:57] <brian1001> but my router has NAT loopback
[21:58] <koell> okey
[21:58] <brian1001> so i basically forwarded 2 PORTS to the raspberry
[21:58] <brian1001> one port to sync the DATA and the other port for its management webpage
[21:58] <brian1001> it doesnt matter where i am, it works :P
[21:58] <koell> sounds like apple :D
[21:58] <brian1001> lol
[21:58] <koell> the macberry :D
[21:58] <brian1001> yes :-)
[21:59] <koell> its AMAZING xD
[21:59] <brian1001> btw
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[21:59] <brian1001> it even runs on a apple :-)
[21:59] <brian1001> i also tried the ANDROID phone, like Dropbox, it syncs picutres automatically
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[22:00] <koell> what do you mean? btsync on android?
[22:00] <brian1001> yes
[22:00] <brian1001> you can install their free APP
[22:00] <brian1001> from teh APP store
[22:00] <brian1001> and if you want to sync a folder
[22:00] <brian1001> you only have to scan its QR code
[22:00] <koell> ccooool
[22:00] <brian1001> easier and faster than typing the secret key
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[22:01] <brian1001> i tried seafile , owncloud and some others but stayed with bt-sync because it syncs very well
[22:01] <koell> but i dont think if it is save enough to use a vpn to a home server. i would still have a home server only in LAN then, just to have something real private :D
[22:01] <brian1001> i use my Fritz!box router for that
[22:01] <gordonDrogon> Hm. compute modeules crashed again
[22:02] <koell> brian1001: does it have a builtin hdd? :D
[22:02] <brian1001> that router ?
[22:02] <koell> yes
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[22:02] <brian1001> no but it has USB 2.0 ports and you can easily connect a harddisk to it
[22:02] <brian1001> and then your DATA will be availible from the LAN
[22:02] <brian1001> or from everywhere using that VPN
[22:02] <brian1001> seriously, works like a charm !
[22:02] <koell> brian1001: hmm my tplink router has this feature too, but it gets very slow then <30mbits :D
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[22:03] <brian1001> koell: my dutch provider gave me a socalled Experiabox , didnt worked well either when using those functions but the Fritz!box rocks!
[22:03] <brian1001> its also linux based btw ...
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[22:04] <koell> brian1001: yeah those provider routers are almost shit afaik :D
[22:04] <brian1001> lol yes
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[22:04] <brian1001> (although this is the raspberry channel....but another nice feature of the Fritz! is that you can use your smarthpone as your house phone :P)
[22:04] <CodeGosu> what is the point to use some 16mhz microcontroler thingy like arduino, when you can use raspberi pi with 700mhz, 512mb ram, gpio ports,
[22:04] <CodeGosu> , if i want to construct some robot, why would i ever need arduino?
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[22:04] <gordonDrogon> CodeGosu, arduino has precise timing. Pi hasn't.
[22:05] <koell> it is cheaper CodeGosu i guess
[22:05] <brian1001> ah! i also thought htat it was just teh price
[22:05] <tig|> CodeGosu: well arduino can do pulse width modulation so can control servos directly, if you do it with a pi they will be very jittery as they have to do it in software
[22:05] <gordonDrogon> tig|, there are dma ways to do much better PWM on the Pi for servos ...
[22:06] <koell> do u need to be an electronic nerd to use an arduino?
[22:06] <tig|> you can get add on boards for the pi that do PWM
[22:06] <gordonDrogon> although I don't yet do that in wiringPi. one day.
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[22:06] <koell> tig|: are you the developer of tig (the git ncurses client)?
[22:06] <tig|> koell: nope
[22:06] <CodeGosu> so if i understand coorect i wont be able to control uav engines fast enought without lag on raspberry, if iever build one right?
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[22:06] <koell> xD
[22:07] <brian1001> wiringPi was the first tool i installed on my pi
[22:07] <koell> UAV... remembers me on stargate sg-1 :D
[22:07] <koell> brian1001: whats that?
[22:07] <brian1001> Wiringpi?
[22:07] <koell> yess
[22:07] <brian1001> its a great tool , which allows you to control GPIO ports on the PI
[22:07] <brian1001> very easy in use
[22:08] <brian1001> let me give you a web link :)
[22:08] <koell> okey :D
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> it's a GPIO library written in C with a command-line utility tool to go with it.
[22:08] <brian1001> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> http://wiringpi.com/
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> both urls are fine :)
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[22:08] <brian1001> :-)
[22:09] <gordonDrogon> so if you're a C/C++ programmer then wiringPi is for you.
[22:09] <koell> xD
[22:09] <gordonDrogon> although there is a set of wrappers for PYthon, Ruby, php, and a few others too.
[22:09] <brian1001> i control wiringpi wiht a python script
[22:09] <koell> if i would get that nerdy with gpio, what do i need to know as basics? electronics?
[22:09] <koell> yeah python is fine !
[22:10] <gordonDrogon> you can als use it from basic - well RTB which is very basic like.
[22:10] <gordonDrogon> koell, switches and LEDs.
[22:10] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/
[22:11] <gordonDrogon> back later - got to knead up some dough now! (artisan baking is my other hobby - http://moorbakes.co.uk ;-)
[22:11] <brian1001> Gordon: how would you connect N/C based door sensors to teh raspberry ? (asking a expert before i will blow up my raspberry :P)
[22:11] <koell> did u guys study electronics?
[22:11] <gordonDrogon> N/C? No contact? like rfid?
[22:11] <brian1001> i didnt koell
[22:11] <brian1001> normally closed contacts
[22:11] <gordonDrogon> I did - but went on to do computing.
[22:12] <tig|> gordonDrogon: ttfn
[22:12] <gordonDrogon> brian1001, the reed relay types?
[22:12] <brian1001> no without a relay
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[22:12] <gordonDrogon> sorry - like reed magnet switches.
[22:12] <brian1001> yes
[22:12] <brian1001> exactly
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> if nothing else connected to them, then one end to 0v and the other end to a Pi pin. enable the internal pull-up then the pin will read 0 when the door is closed and 1 when it opens.
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[22:13] <brian1001> im gonna test with ti , and will put the results here
[22:13] <brian1001> thank you Gordon!
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> laters...
[22:13] <brian1001> *waves*
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[22:15] <tig|> I need to find out why the 2 line lcd I hooked up the other day keeps randomly showing garbage
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[22:16] <brian1001> AFK for a while ...
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[23:16] <gordonDrogon> tig|, timing?
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[23:47] <tig|> gordonDrogon: I think I might just have a dodgy solder joint now, since I moved it then it has worked perfectly all night
[23:48] <tig|> or every time I have looked at it :)
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[23:51] <gordonDrogon> ok!
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[23:53] <tig|> either that or it is a dodgy board, it was about £2 delivered
[23:53] <tig|> so you get what you pay for etc :)
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[23:57] <tig|> spoke to soon.. :(
[23:57] <tig|> too soon even
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[23:58] <gwildor> you fix ?
[23:58] <tig|> works fine then occasionally punts out garbage, it is supposed to update once per second with the current temperature and humidity
[23:58] <tig|> then suddenly random chars on there
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