#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-06-25

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[0:00] <tig|> I am not that concerned tbh as I have a 16x4 display that is just waiting for a couple of parts to arrive which will replace it
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[4:19] <[Saint]> Hmmmm.
[4:19] <[Saint]> Nice to know that someone I consider sane runs with a massive RAMdisk as well.
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[4:20] <[Saint]> server-pi runs entirely from RAM after boot.
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[4:21] <[Saint]> (that's the little guy that pretends to be a deadman switch and leads a rather lonely existence locked in a fireproof box in a walk in wardrobe)
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[6:02] <[Saint]> Wheeee...that's, errr, nice.
[6:03] <[Saint]> Pretty much my entire $home is in LOST+FOUND
[6:04] <[Saint]> Thank FSM for versioned backups.
[6:04] <icecube45> ah
[6:06] <[Saint]> I've been bitten too many times to not keep versioned, offline, regular, snapshots.
[6:06] <[Saint]> (of the stuff I actually care about, which is very little)
[6:07] <[Saint]> My media gets backed up to a couple of 4TB external drives and chucked in a fireproof safe (a small one, not a massive Scrooge McDuck style one :)) every month or so.
[6:09] <[Saint]> One for audio, one for everything else, pictures, video, system snapshots.
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[6:22] <[Saint]> It amuses me so greatly that my bank can't Unicode.
[6:22] <[Saint]> SMS banking:
[6:22] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[6:23] <[Saint]> "The balance of your account named: &#91;Saint&#93; is..."
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[6:55] <AbbyTheRat> that reminds me
[6:55] <AbbyTheRat> *backs up her password db*
[6:56] <AbbyTheRat> andd.. done
[6:57] <rikkib> Gringotts
[7:02] <timekeeper> I just sync using dropbox
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[7:09] <timekeeper> woot, got Motion set up nicely in the office with triggered images and videos auto uploading to another local ftp
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[7:22] * Xark has fairly easily talked himself out of wanting the compute module (at $200 for devkit). :)
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[7:40] <[Saint]> timekeeper: relying solely on a third party, cloud based, backup system, is...brave.
[7:41] <[Saint]> (that's the nice way of putting it ;))
[7:43] <[Saint]> And Dropbox has some amusing insecurities.
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[8:55] <gordonDrogon> morning.
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[9:13] <icecube45> hey gordonDrogon
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[9:16] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[9:16] <gordonDrogon> breakfast timeing.
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[10:39] <gordonDrogon> breakfast done, bread done & delivered. what now?
[10:39] <koell> eating :3
[10:40] <ShorTie> nap time
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[10:41] <winlu> repeat breakfast routine till lunch
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> :)
[10:44] <koell> xD
[10:44] <koell> breakfast is the best from all day!
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[10:51] <rikkib> Bed time
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[11:53] <gregtom6> hy all
[11:53] <gregtom6> I get unsupportedpinmodeexception this gpio pin [gpio 03] does not support the pin mode specified pwm_output error message
[11:53] <gregtom6> after I try to run a java application I wrote
[11:53] <gregtom6> we use pi4j-0.0.5
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[11:54] <gregtom6> we read on the pi4j page that the gpio ports support pwm
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[11:57] <gordonDrogon> only one pin - that's pin 1 in wiringPi terms (which I think pi4j uses)
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[12:09] <gregtom6> gordonDrogon: we would like to use 4x20 LCD, GPIO_01 is backlight pwm but we need contrast pwm pin too, what can we do?
[12:10] <gordonDrogon> move the backlight to a different pin.
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> I'e never seen a display with software controlled contrast like that though - all the ones I've used/seen just have a little potentiometer to change the contrast.
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[12:16] <koell> where is the >20" e-eink display im waiting for years? \o/
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[12:18] <nid0> I want to know where my wireless battery-powered >20" touchscreen tft is, we supposedly live in the future and im gutted that we're missing these as well as jetpacks
[12:19] <tig|> nid0: and flying cars, hoverboards and Mr Fusion :)
[12:20] <koell> ive seen a ted talk about wireless battery-powered some months ago. it is reallypossible!!
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[12:20] <winlu> don't mention hoverboards :X
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> koell, I can charge my Nexus 5 wirelessly.
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> if I spent �35 for the charger...
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> toothbrushes have charged wirelessly for years now.
[12:21] <koell> gordonDrogon: but not in that range he does >>> http://www.ted.com/talks/eric_giler_demos_wireless_electricity#
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> the technology has been there since the daya of Tesla - it's just not that efficient at distance.
[12:23] <gordonDrogon> the "holy grail" is in the kitchen too - put a kettle down anywhere on the worktop and it will boil, etc.
[12:23] <gordonDrogon> although there are other ways to do the energy transfer there - induction hobs e.g.
[12:23] <tig|> gordonDrogon: you can do that if you just put gas burners under the worktop :P
[12:24] <koell> i wonder if the range can be increased
[12:24] <nid0> you can do it even better with a place-anywhere induction hob and a ferrous kettle
[12:24] <tig|> I bought a qi charger for my nexus 4 and although it is nifty it is very slow
[12:24] <gordonDrogon> I have a portable table-top induction hob. it's really good.
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[12:25] <gordonDrogon> tig|, I don't think it needs to be fast - especialy if you charge overnight.
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> I rarely need a top-up on my N5, but I may not be quite the "power user" that others are.
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> my wife often needs to top-up her HTC One but she uses it for video, podcasts and a lot of browsing, email through the day.
[12:27] <koell> idk if it is really that safe for a human to live with all that wireless chargers then :D
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> koell, well that's the other argument - like being inside a NMR scanner all the time :)
[12:29] <koell> xD
[12:29] <tig|> gordonDrogon: it could be I just have a rubbish one but I do use my phone a lot and found that on the qi charger I could use more power by using the phone than the charger could put in during the same time :(
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[12:30] <nid0> my qi charger works great for both my lumia and nexus 7
[12:30] <nid0> it just sits on my desk, and one device or the other pretty much always just lives on it during the day
[12:30] <[Saint]> Ms [Saint] has asked me to tell you, tig|, that she finds your handle rather amusing.
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[12:31] <tig|> any particular reason?
[12:31] <[Saint]> Our kitten is called Tiger, and we call it tig, tig-tig, or tiggy, for short.
[12:31] <tig|> heh
[12:31] <[Saint]> So she imagines a kitten typing.
[12:31] <tig|> at this time of year my hair does go a bit tabby
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> tig|, yea, that happens with my tablet when 'charging' via usb when its in-use - the charging can't keep up with demand...
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[12:32] <[Saint]> Coincidentally, tig-tig is a tabby kitten.
[12:32] <tig|> lol
[12:34] <tig|> I refuse to confirm or deny my species
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[13:15] <tanuva> boaaaaaah selbstfokussierende textfelder im brauser ICH BRING SIE UM!
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[13:16] <tanuva> Is ja nich so dass mal jemand auf die Idee kommen könnte, dass Backspace als "zurück"-Hotkey sogar benutzt wird -.-
[13:17] <[Saint]> And...in English?
[13:17] <tanuva> Oh. Wait. This is not exactly the channel I was thinking it is.
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[13:25] <mgottschlag> lol.
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[13:46] <gregtom6> GordonDrogon: how can I set constrast with soft pwm on GPIO 3 (pi4j pin number) = GPIO15 (on raspberry)?
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[13:48] <gregtom6> gordonDrogon: how can I set constrast with soft pwm on GPIO 3 (pi4j pin number) = GPIO15 (on raspberry)?
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[13:50] <ShorTie> think you need to move that to gpio 1, it's the only pwm pin
[13:50] <gregtom6> shorTie: but we need softpwm
[13:50] <ShorTie> [05:57:36] <gordonDrogon> only one pin - that's pin 1 in wiringPi terms (which I think pi4j uses)
[13:51] <gregtom6> we know that the only one hardwer pwm port
[13:51] <gregtom6> then why is that in the doc that we can use any GPIO pin for softpwm???
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[13:53] <ShorTie> don't know what doc, but it seems wrong
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[13:54] <gregtom6> ShorTie, gordonDrogon: http://pi4j.com/apidocs/com/pi4j/wiringpi/SoftPwm.html#softPwmWrite(int, int)
[13:55] <gregtom6> it says: "WiringPi includes a software-driven PWM handler capable of outputting a PWM signal on any of the Raspberry Pi's GPIO pins."
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[13:57] <ShorTie> have you compared that to what wiringPi actually says about it ??
[13:57] <ShorTie> maybe that author is confused
[13:58] <gregtom6> not yet
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[13:59] <gregtom6> ShorTie, gordonDrogon: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/software-pwm-library/
[13:59] <gregtom6> we can read the same on there
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[14:00] <ShorTie> sorry, thought it was only on 1 pin, me bad
[14:02] <gregtom6> that's why we wanted to speak with gordonDrogon badly
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[14:12] <gordonDrogon> you can softPwm any pin with a range value between 0 and 100.
[14:13] <gordonDrogon> the PWM function only lasts as long as the program is running - when the program stops, so does the pwm.
[14:13] <gordonDrogon> I know nothing avout the pi4j implementation though - all my stuff is in C or RTB.
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[14:32] <voidfire> ohaioo
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[14:35] <pjetr> Hello, I recently dropped my phone causing the need to buy a replacement screen, this got me thinking. You can find cheap and decent screens, batteries, camera's en whatnot if you were to buy mobile replacement stuff. Has anyone here attempted something like that?
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[14:36] <pjetr> On the site where I bought my stuff you can find a nexus 7 screen for as little as 35.90$ http://www.wantbuyletbuy.com/high-quality-lcd-display-screen-replacement-for-google-nexus-7_p17150.html
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[14:37] <pjetr> So I'm thinking that I should be able to put this on a rpi, print a custom case and create a miniscule laptop
[14:37] <pjetr> I'll probably find a battery that would work nicely with the pi on there as well
[14:37] <pjetr> any thoughts?
[14:40] <voidfire> its possible
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[14:41] <voidfire> not sure why would you need to do it :P
[14:41] <gordonDrogon> possible - but ...
[14:41] <gordonDrogon> the difficult part is interfacing to the display.
[14:41] <voidfire> im trying two things on my newly achieved pi
[14:41] <gordonDrogon> far easier if you can get a display that's already hdmi.
[14:41] <voidfire> ids/ips
[14:42] <voidfire> parental control router plug and play
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> e.g. motorola lapdock - which I have.
[14:42] <voidfire> yay hdmi for the wins
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[14:42] <pjetr> I agree gordonDrogon, but where's the fun in that :)
[14:42] <voidfire> but intrfacing with a screen doesnt seem that trivian
[14:42] <voidfire> you just need to dig a bit
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> voidfire, you'll need a 2nd usb ethernet interface, then look at something like http://dansguardian.org/
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> if the screen has an SPI interface, it might be posible - not going to be as fast as a proper hdmi display though.
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> see e.g. the adafruit one
[14:43] <voidfire> thats for the parental control
[14:44] <voidfire> i thought Id use dans and squid proxy and maybe opendns things
[14:44] <voidfire> tho what fiddles me the most
[14:44] <voidfire> is that Id want to cut the proxy connections
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> that will all work.
[14:44] <voidfire> and the pi being plug n play
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> not sure about the P&P bit - always turn that off on all routers I use.
[14:45] <voidfire> plugin it on the router on an ethernet port will have to enforerce restrictions on a wide list of websites
[14:45] <voidfire> and deny proxy connections since most 7 year old will find the way to use a proxy
[14:45] <voidfire> well the plug n play part wont be on the routers behalf
[14:45] <voidfire> but on rpis OS/software
[14:46] <voidfire> once it boots it should take over ;)
[14:46] <voidfire> unfortunately I have to study some of the quirks on how we cut proxy connections
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[14:46] <gordonDrogon> you eliminate the use of an external proxy by force-redirecting 80 into your own proxy
[14:46] <voidfire> since I dont want the clients to touch router setting and Im aiming on a plug n play device
[14:47] <voidfire> hmm that sounds interesting
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[14:47] <gordonDrogon> doesn't stop people using a proxy on port 443, but you can force that through too, but then you get ssl violations...
[14:47] <voidfire> well its aimed for home networks and casual users
[14:47] <voidfire> ssl violations would suck :D
[14:48] <voidfire> I thought about forcing the traffic trought pi making everyone using it as a gateway and filter traffic there before router -> internets
[14:48] <voidfire> but that would require touching router setting and kill its dhcp
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> I've done this commercially in the past. it's easy to do a force-redirect in Linux.
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> for port 80 anyway. you force it into a local squid running on the router (or a remote one, but local is marginaly easier)
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> thats independant of dns/dhcp.
[14:51] <voidfire> well .. thing is as i said
[14:51] <voidfire> i dont wanna touch the router
[14:52] <voidfire> i want it pluggable and once booted to be on auto mode
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[14:52] <pjetr> I don't think that's possible
[14:52] <voidfire> and that scares me it will need lots of testing and fairly new
[14:52] <voidfire> i tend to thing everything is possible ;P
[14:52] <voidfire> depends on the means you'll need and the energy willing to invest
[14:53] <pjetr> Because if you were to just be able to do this, you could take to a local cafe where you have free wifi, and force all traffic trough your setup. Thus stealing a lot of data from all users there
[14:53] <voidfire> well depends on the network topology on where you gonna plug it
[14:53] <voidfire> on rulesets in place
[14:54] <voidfire> and many other factors
[14:54] <voidfire> and ofc is possible :P
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[14:54] <pjetr> if you want to sell this idea, why not bundle it with a router which you can set up
[14:54] <voidfire> pwnpi has sometools with a knowledgeble hands would still the traffic
[14:54] <voidfire> poisoning the network
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[14:54] <voidfire> im plannin
[14:54] <voidfire> to make it in levels
[14:55] <voidfire> like a pi for home/small nets
[14:55] <voidfire> another device ODROID comes to mind for bigger nets with more features like ids / ips
[14:55] <voidfire> then a router with possibly lower hardware specs but made for networking jobs and supporting Openwrt
[14:55] <mhoney> cubietruck makes a great home server
[14:56] <voidfire> for now I have to dive into pi and see what make out of it ;P
[14:56] <voidfire> then I can generate plans for bigger devices
[14:56] <voidfire> Im not limited on budget
[14:56] <voidfire> nor in ideas and implementation
[14:56] <voidfire> can do anything I want on my projects. its just Im all alone working on it atm
[14:57] <voidfire> I have a forensics pro that takes care of other stuff into the corp as well as the law stuff
[14:57] <voidfire> and a pro coder that I have yet to meet in person and talk with
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[14:57] <voidfire> Im the a bit of everything magic card like most of the times into IT/Security field
[14:58] <voidfire> and Ive been looking for a chance and a goal to focus my studies towards a few things
[14:58] <voidfire> cos on my own I always study different stuff
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[15:00] <pjetr> It sounds pretty cool
[15:01] <voidfire> you could tag along if you wanted too ;)
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[15:02] <pjetr> But I'm not sure that it'll work. I think different makes of router will implement different security solutions. And I think really highjacking all traffic should at least be made "impossible" on even the cheapest of routers
[15:02] <voidfire> you just need to know some basic net/code/*nix sh1t and be willing to learn more :P
[15:02] <pjetr> unless you fiddle in the settings
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[15:02] <voidfire> well most of home routers in my country have no security measures
[15:03] <voidfire> hijacking all of the traffic is by no means impossible for a client
[15:03] <voidfire> at least with malicious practices
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[15:43] <Serus> Can I connect an externally powered usb 3.0 hdd to my raspberry pi?
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[15:43] <shiftplusone> There are some issues with 3.0 hubs. They don't all work
[15:43] <Serus> I didn't say hub
[15:43] <Serus> I said HDD
[15:43] <shiftplusone> Ah, I can't read, it seems
[15:44] <shiftplusone> sure, as long as you don't expect 3.0 speeds.
[15:44] <ShorTie> most likely, but trial and error is the only true test
[15:45] <Serus> well yeah, but my money is very limited as I'm a student
[15:45] <Rufio> i have a raspberry pi playing raspbmc. every few hours it decides to drop video and stop playing. I've used four different 1A - 1.5A power supplies on it with teh same results. Any suggestions?
[15:45] <Serus> So I can't afford trial and error
[15:46] <Rufio> Serus: i doubt it'll have a problem, USB3 is backward compatible
[15:46] <Rufio> i have one on a pi right now
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[15:46] <ShorTie> where did you get your micro usb cable, is it from a phone ??
[15:46] <Rufio> ShorTie: it came with the raspberry pi
[15:47] <Rufio> and i've used multiple ones
[15:47] <ShorTie> did you measure the voltage at tp1 to tp2 ??
[15:47] <Rufio> no, how do i do that?
[15:47] <Rufio> got a link?
[15:48] <ShorTie> not really, just need a volt meter
[15:49] <Rufio> yeah, got one, just haven't heard of testing that
[15:49] <Rufio> just weird it takes a long time to drop. 4-6 hours
[15:49] <ShorTie> i'd pick a cale that has awg29 print on it if posible
[15:49] <ShorTie> oops, awg28
[15:50] <Rufio> hmm, i'll take a look. The whole device doesn't shut down, i can remote into it
[15:50] <Rufio> just loses video and audio
[15:50] <ShorTie> sure it doesn't reboot cause of a brown out ??
[15:50] <Rufio> nah, on a battery backup
[15:52] <ShorTie> hmmm, battery backup should be ok them i guess
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[15:53] <Rufio> ShorTie: yeah, i have other devices on it without issue. i'm starting to suspect video might be bad
[15:53] <Rufio> i haven't swapped it with my spare pi yet
[15:53] <ShorTie> oops, an apc/battery backup may not really help on a brown on 5v
[15:53] <ShorTie> brown out*
[15:54] <Rufio> why not?
[15:54] <Rufio> i don't really have any brown outs in the rest of the house, i have another pi as a server and it hasn't had any issues
[15:54] <ShorTie> check it's heart beat at tp1-tp2
[15:54] <Rufio> will do
[15:55] <ShorTie> because that is for line power, not so much the 5v suppling the pi
[15:58] <Rufio> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
[15:58] <Rufio> this is cool
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[16:01] <ShorTie> if you got a good power source, the pi will run for ever with no problems
[16:02] <Rufio> that's true if there's nothing wrong with the pi
[16:02] <Rufio> i doubt i've had four faulty power sources
[16:02] <Rufio> when one is being used on the raspberry pi server without issues
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[16:02] <Rufio> i suspect it's something with raspbmc
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[16:04] <ShorTie> the only true way to know for sure you got a good power supply, is to measure the voltage at tp1-tp2
[16:04] <ShorTie> you can't go by the label
[16:04] <Rufio> yeah, i will check it tonight
[16:05] <ShorTie> have you looked in dmesg and/or syslog ??
[16:05] <ShorTie> or any/all files in /var/log
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[16:07] <Rufio> ShorTie: i have, no errors
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[16:09] <ShorTie> it's sounding more and more like power issue to me
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[16:09] <Rufio> i guess so. I'll troubleshoot it tonight. Thanks for the help
[16:09] <BetaSoul> Is there a package for maynard/weyland over vnc?
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[16:22] <gordonDrogon> I would doubt it - doesn't it need to use native hardware?
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[16:25] <tig|> Rufio: what do you have connected to the USB on the pi? it could be drawing too much power
[16:25] <Rufio> from what i'm reading that's probably the problem
[16:25] <Rufio> i have a wifi adapter and a wireless kb :D
[16:26] <ShorTie> you need to move those off to a powered hub
[16:26] <tig|> try connecting them via a powered usb hub and see if the problem goes away :)
[16:27] <Rufio> yeah, just ordered one of the pi recommended belkins
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[16:29] <ShorTie> how big is the power supply if i can ask ??
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[17:07] <gordonDrogon> looks like everyone is having a late or long lunch :)
[17:08] <SirLagz> it's 11:10 PM here. way past lunch time lol
[17:08] <SirLagz> I'm trying to work out how to set a default capture device in ALSA
[17:08] <IT_Sean> 11:08 by my clock
[17:08] <IT_Sean> at least an hour 'till lunch time
[17:09] <SirLagz> IT_Sean: Hi halfway-around-the-world IT_Sean ! :D
[17:09] <jrtc27> 16:09 here
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> it's always lunchtime somewhere.
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[17:09] <jrtc27> maybe time for some cake :D
[17:09] <IT_Sean> SirLagz: oooh, you emant 11:08 PM!
[17:09] <pksato> yes, lunch time 12:09PM
[17:09] <SirLagz> IT_Sean: yes ! :D
[17:09] <IT_Sean> it's 11:09 am here
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[17:09] <IT_Sean> on Wednesday.
[17:09] <SirLagz> yep, still Wednesday for another hour still :D
[17:10] <IT_Sean> Right right right
[17:10] <jrtc27> "655 packages upgraded, 226 newly installed, 68 to remove and 12 not upgraded" -> this is gonna take some time
[17:10] <tanuva> And this is why the internet rocks. We can do awesome stuff regardless where we are on this lonely planet
[17:10] <SirLagz> though with the way this damn thing is going, I'm going to have an aneurysm before thursday
[17:11] <gordonDrogon> jrtc27, not updated for a while then... go for it :)
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[17:11] <voidfire> what kind of command ppl use to backup imges from pi? I know dd can do the miracle all I want to know is how Ill find the value that I will pass to the seek= argument in order to avoid cloning unused space
[17:11] <jrtc27> well, going from an updated wheezy to jessie
[17:12] <SirLagz> voidfire: I use dd and downsize the image afterwards
[17:12] <SirLagz> voidfire: though I'm only using 1/2/4GB SD cards
[17:12] <jrtc27> voidfire SirLagz I'd imagine gzip would make a large difference?
[17:12] <voidfire> I use one 8gb sd
[17:13] <SirLagz> jrtc27: depends. if you've zeroed out the free space, then it makes a huge difference
[17:13] <voidfire> and dd if=/dev/sdb of=/home/whatever/backup.img seek=#unusedspace
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> voidfire, I stopped backing up from the Pi - I now regard them as expendable. critical data is stored on servers... but when I do have something on the Pi, I used rsync to back it up to another device.
[17:13] <SirLagz> gordonDrogon: and that's the way it should work :D
[17:14] <voidfire> I want make many dev images which ill distribute in the corp for further collaborations and tests
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> if you are going to dd from a live image, then be aware that the image created may have filesystem errors as it may not include the in-flight data in ram still to be written to SD.
[17:14] <voidfire> dd would be nice really. cos as of now I cant use rsync and corp servers
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> also, before you dd, run: dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=8M ; rm bigfile
[17:14] <SirLagz> gordonDrogon: run a sync before you dd ?
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> that will make the subsequent compress run better.
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[17:15] <voidfire> Im aware of that gordonDrogon and there will be no ram data that will be needed only different os /packages setups and configs
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> SirLagz, it'll help, but you might have rsyslogd running, etc.
[17:15] <SirLagz> true
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> it will still be an image considered "dirty" at boot time, but the fsck action should tidy it up without any fuss.
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[17:23] <jrtc27> at least upgrading doesn't require compiling anything from source..
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[17:24] <gordonDrogon> not for debian ...
[17:24] <gordonDrogon> (raspbian)
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[17:24] <jrtc27> yeah
[17:24] <jrtc27> which is good, because otherwise this would never finish
[17:25] <gordonDrogon> well - people are running Gentoo on the Pi.
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[17:25] <jrtc27> that's gotta be painful, right?
[17:25] <gordonDrogon> it takes some patience AIUI..
[17:26] <jrtc27> well props to them I guess
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[17:31] <gordonDrogon> hm. TRIM fails on the flash on the compute module.
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[17:38] <Encrypt> Hi o/
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[17:55] <The_ManU_212> hi, i am using a dvbs2 tv tuner with xbmc. because the usb driver and isochronous trasnfers were broken it wasnt usuable. with fiq_fsm driver rewrite it has been fixed, but i have still some artifacts, are there any parameters, how i can fix it?
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[18:17] <gordonDrogon> ok, the bowl of strawberries macerating in the fridge can wait no-longer ...
[18:17] <x29a> eeeey, macerena
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[18:18] <gwildor> macerena macerena macerena
[18:19] <gordonDrogon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5_uSuAO_mc
[18:19] <gordonDrogon> no, not that one. don't click that.
[18:19] <gwildor> too late... AHHH
[18:19] <ShorTie> a little sugar and the make there own liquid
[18:20] <gwildor> its animaniacs...im stoked!
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[18:20] <gordonDrogon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZWn2AaJoZo
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> try that one.
[18:20] <gwildor> helllooooooooo nurse!
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> I wish I could get them on DVD in the UK.
[18:21] <gordonDrogon> I watched them first time round when I was living in the US. amazing.
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[18:21] <gwildor> id only know of a bootleg venue to get those... not sure if there is an official dvd release.
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[18:22] <gordonDrogon> and observe that yakko, wakko, dot, watertower, pinky, brain exist in drogon.net dns :)
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[18:30] <gordonDrogon> Hmph. for a few seconds there I thought the Pi Compute Module mounting holes were the same size as a monitor/tv VESA mounting holes. Sadly it's a little smaller.
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[18:37] <ShorTie> bummer
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[18:44] <Davespice_> guys, anyone got a good cad drawing for the position of the mounting holes on the model B?
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[18:44] <gordonDrogon> I don't know of one, but I've also never looked ...
[18:45] <shiftplusone> Davespice, I've seen some overlays you can print out for such things
[18:45] <IT_Sean> Have you tried Google? I bet there is one out there somewhere.
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[18:45] <shiftplusone> I believe gert has some mechanical files on scribd, but they might be rev1
[18:45] <Davespice> yeah I have, none of the ones I can eaily find are very good
[18:47] <shiftplusone> I don't remember there being any good ones, but they are there.
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[18:47] <shiftplusone> you could just get the gerber files
[18:48] <Davespice> yeah true, is James at his desk shiftplusone?
[18:48] <shiftplusone> nuh, he's working from home today
[18:48] <Davespice> ar ok
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[18:48] <shiftplusone> should I ask gordon?
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[18:50] <Davespice> no its cool
[18:50] <Davespice> I think I am good :)
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[18:50] <Davespice> thanks tho
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[18:51] <shiftplusone> np
[18:51] <Jusii> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Raspberry-Pi-Mounting-Hole-Template.png
[18:51] <Jusii> one I found earlier
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[18:51] <Jusii> about the holes
[18:51] <shiftplusone> that's the one I was thinking of
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[19:19] <sla_eerick> hi everyone
[19:19] <The_ManU_212> i am using a dvbs2 tv tuner with xbmc. because the usb driver and isochronous trasnfers were broken it wasnt usuable. with fiq_fsm driver rewrite it has been fixed, but i have still some artifacts, are there any parameters, how i can fix it?
[19:21] <sla_eerick> does anyone has a good recommendation for micro usb form usb wifi adapter that supports monitor mode and has a good range?
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[19:22] <tanuva> The_ManU_212: which tv backend are you using?
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[19:57] <linuxstb> The_ManU_212: One thing to check is if you can enable hardware PID filtering on your device - "options dvb_usb force_pid_filter_usage=1"
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[19:57] <linuxstb> The_ManU_212: The kernel log when the driver is loaded should say whether or not hardware filtering is being used.
[19:58] <sla_eerick> any owners of a rpi from Mexico?
[19:59] <shiftplusone> sla_eerick, try the edimax
[19:59] <shiftplusone> not sure about monitor mode though
[19:59] <sla_eerick> thanks shiftplusone, ill check it out
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[20:20] <iElectric> is there raspberrypi alternative with thunderbolt?
[20:20] <koell> wtf xD
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[20:21] <iElectric> with display port.
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[20:24] <pksato> iElectric: And a A6 SoC? :) (No, I dont know any dev board with thunderbolt or dp)
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[20:24] <shiftplusone> wrong channel O_o
[20:25] <iElectric> I'm trying to find cheapest arm/intel to connect with https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1859884318/oscar-the-open-screen-adapter
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[20:27] <Matrikular> hello, is someone in here who odered something from adafruit (for a pi project) to germany. my question is regarding shipping & vat
[20:27] <Jusii> Matrikular: I've ordered to finland, should be the same?
[20:29] <Jusii> atleast how it works, the fees themselves differ
[20:29] <Jusii> customs and VAT % are different
[20:30] <Matrikular> Jusii: but all went well you say?
[20:31] <Jusii> Matrikular: sure, and they have excellent support at adafruit
[20:31] <mgottschlag> usually, the only intersting part is whether the foreign company pays customs or not
[20:31] <Jusii> had one LED LCD screen defective, they sent new one immediately
[20:31] <mgottschlag> but the customs office will tell you :)
[20:32] <Jusii> adafruit won't handle the customs fees or VAT, you pay them to your local customs
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[20:33] <Jusii> so the price is basically: (Parts + shipping) * customs fee % * VAT %
[20:36] <Matrikular> ok, to have a ballpark figure the duty / tax calculator mentioned on the page should give me an idea of all the costs, right?
[20:37] <Jusii> sure
[20:38] <pksato> Matrikular: no one sell similar parts on germany or europe?
[20:38] <Jusii> and I'm sure customs fee for computer parts isn't very much in germany, so it's basically the price + shipping and put just VAT over that
[20:38] <The_ManU_212> tanuva: i am using tvheadend
[20:38] <Jusii> adafruit has some resellers in europe, their stock isn't very good and the price is the same
[20:38] <Jusii> in the end
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[20:39] <Matrikular> pksato: i didnt find a shop / seller where to get every parts for the project and some of them cost way more than the price at adafruits + tax (if i calculated right)
[20:39] <Jusii> this is one adafruit reseller I used once http://www.robotshop.com/eu/en/
[20:39] <Jusii> it's in france
[20:40] <Jusii> slow and no price difference when compared to buying straigt from adafruit
[20:40] <Matrikular> i see
[20:41] <tanuva> The_ManU_212: sundtek support (manufacturer of my dvb-c tuner) told me vdr uses less cpu which leads to less image distortion. can confirm, but now with xbmc+vdr instead of the vdr frontend there are some problems left I couldn't get rid of yet
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[20:44] <The_ManU_212> tanuva: i have overclocked my rpi so i think cpu usage isnt the problem?! which usage ratio is okay?
[20:45] <Jusii> after ten years of vdr user I've finally switched to tvheadend
[20:45] <Jusii> (side note)
[20:46] <tanuva> The_ManU_212: Don't know about the ratio, but my Pi was constantly >95% with overclocking
[20:46] <tanuva> I'm also not quite sure what causes the image distortion as the gpu should do that just fine
[20:47] <The_ManU_212> tanuva: tvheadend uses 30%
[20:47] <Jusii> but I don't think there's much difference between vdr / tvheadend and CPU comsumption
[20:47] <Jusii> as it mostly comes from IO
[20:47] <ShorTie> it could be a interaction of xbmc+vdr
[20:47] <The_ManU_212> tanuva: without fiq_fsm the distortian and package loss via usb was that big, so that it wasnt suuable
[20:48] <The_ManU_212> my dvbs device uses isochronous usb transfers which should be fixed by that driver, but still some artifacts are left
[20:48] <tanuva> Jusii: thats what sundtek support told me, and tv works with vdr and doesn't with tvheadend (though I prever the latter's web iface of course)
[20:49] <tanuva> The_ManU_212: how did you analyse the usb problems? Maybe my Pi suffers from that, too
[20:50] <Jusii> another side note, I've concluded that USB DVB adapters last maybe 2-3 years MAX for 24/7 use
[20:50] <The_ManU_212> tanuva: i googled for the problems, and tvheadend console also showed me some errors while receiving data
[20:50] <The_ManU_212> Jusii: because of what?
[20:51] <Jusii> The_ManU_212: they wear out
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[20:52] <The_ManU_212> tanuva: the drivers for the broadcom usb arent that good because its not opensource hardware. bulk transfers seem to work. the drivers were rewritten for isochronous transfers and also for special stuff like usb/serial adapter
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[20:52] <Jusii> 4th set of 3 USB DVB tuners in use now, they just start to misbehave and needs resetting. Throw in new set and everything works just fine again
[20:52] <The_ManU_212> but it seems that it is still buggy
[20:52] <The_ManU_212> Jusii: thermal problems?
[20:53] <Jusii> temperature might be the ultimate reason, some components start failing
[20:53] <gwildor> Jusii: you have... 12 total tuners on your pi ?
[20:53] <The_ManU_212> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=70437
[20:53] <gwildor> Jusii: 4 'devices' w/ 3 tuners each..
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[20:54] <Jusii> gwildor: no, 9 of them are in a drawer because they are unreliable now
[20:54] <gwildor> Jusii: ahh, ok... what is your count during optimal operations ?
[20:54] <Jusii> no 3 DVB tuners in use
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[20:54] <The_ManU_212> Jusii: did you test the unrelieble devices also with another machine?
[20:54] <The_ManU_212> like a pc
[20:54] <Jusii> The_ManU_212: multpile times, and everytime I have a new machine
[20:54] <The_ManU_212> perhaps its also a problem of psu
[20:55] <Jusii> I don't actually use pi for the XBMC
[20:55] <The_ManU_212> Jusii: what do you use instead?
[20:55] <gwildor> oh, these tuners dont live on the pi ?
[20:55] <Jusii> but that's not relevant in this case
[20:55] <The_ManU_212> ok
[20:55] <Jusii> not it's intel NUC i3
[20:55] <gwildor> i was curiouse about performance ;)...no so much the issues w/ the tuners.
[20:55] <Jusii> used to be some zotac with atom, some asus before that and so on
[20:56] <Jusii> gwildor: ok, right
[20:56] <Jusii> Didn't even try with the pi as I know the IO would be killer for the pi
[20:56] <gwildor> though.... i would look inter a quality hub... something w/ power filtering or something...
[20:56] <Jusii> having 3-5 concurrent recordings
[20:57] <gwildor> yeah...why i was shocked.
[20:57] <Jusii> right :)
[20:57] <Jusii> nowdays pi would be just fine, as it seems that I record maybe 1-2 shows per week...
[20:58] <Jusii> mostly live viewing and some thime shifting
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[21:04] <The_ManU_212> linuxstb: http://pastie.org/9323774 dont know if the device is capable of pid filtering?!
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[21:15] <jrtc27> I should be concerned by this, right? "computing size, want /var/swap=990MByte, checking existing: deleting wrong size file (104857600), generating swapfile ..."
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[21:15] <jrtc27> (regarding dphys-swpafile)
[21:15] <jrtc27> *swapfile
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> jrtc27, not really. it's just re-creating the swapfile to a size it prefers.
[21:16] <[Saint]> Not at all.
[21:16] <[Saint]> Its telling you what it's doing.
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> personally I run without swap, but that's just me.
[21:16] <jrtc27> But 990MB seems quite large for a 2GB SD card...
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[21:16] <jrtc27> and I never enabled swap
[21:16] <[Saint]> You don't need to.
[21:17] <[Saint]> Its a default.
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[21:17] <[Saint]> (Blame the Foundation, it is silly, yes)
[21:17] <jrtc27> oh I see.....
[21:17] <jrtc27> still 990MB seems far too large
[21:17] <jrtc27> considering the space available
[21:18] <[Saint]> 'man dphys-swapfile'
[21:18] <[Saint]> That'll tell you how to resize.
[21:18] <[Saint]> 32MB is likely plenty.
[21:19] <jrtc27> yeah, resizing it isn't an issue, thanks, I'm just concerned that if I Ctrl-C I might break something
[21:19] <jrtc27> especially considering it's in the middle of a massive dist-upgrade
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[21:21] <[Saint]> Oh...no. Don't do it *now* :)
[21:21] <[Saint]> Wait until the system is idle.
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[21:26] <gordonDrogon> you can sudo apt-get purge dphys-swpafile
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[21:26] <jrtc27> well, I Ctrl-Z'd the upgrade before you said that, and the shell is unbearably slow
[21:26] <[Saint]> You should /probably/ report that.
[21:26] <jrtc27> oh, it's finally recovered
[21:26] <jrtc27> + report what?
[21:26] <[Saint]> 990MB is quite clearly bonkers
[21:26] <linuxstb> The_ManU_212: Is there nothing in your logs related to the dvb_usb module?
[21:27] <[Saint]> It's good to have swap.
[21:27] <[Saint]> Just not nearly a full GB of it...
[21:27] <The_ManU_212> linuxstb: "cat /var/log/kernel.log | grep dvb_usb" = no result
[21:28] <[Saint]> 32~64MB is likely fine, considering how hard raspbian tries not to use it
[21:28] <jrtc27> oh goodie, now my shell's hung at autocompletion (why did I have to press tab...)
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[21:32] <gordonDrogon> dphys-swap thingy calculates the swapfile size based on RAM size not disk size.
[21:32] <jrtc27> it's set to 2*RAM by the looks of it
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> when I have used swap, I've just fixed it in /etc/fstab anyway - I think it's marginally faster at boot time.
[21:33] <jrtc27> at least that's what it is in plain Debian jessie
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> double RAM is a "traditional" value to use.
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> there have been virtual holy wars over swap file size in the past - modern linux doesn't care.
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> (modern as in the past 10 years I reckon)
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> I also think the raspbian approach to swap isn't right - I do the exact opposite.
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> I set vm.swappiness=99
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[21:34] <gordonDrogon> raspbian sets it to 1.
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> my theory is that I explicitly want linux to swap out anything that's not used - which is what it'll do first.
[21:35] <mgottschlag> btw, anyone can tell me what the reasons for/against swapfiles instead of partitons are?
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[21:35] <gordonDrogon> swapfiles used to be slower, but now the kernel builds up a list of the physical block numbers in a swapfile, so it's the same speed.
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> (AIUI)
[21:39] <jrtc27> so hopefully deleting /var/swap won't break anything.... (it was using my entire disk, and dphys-swapfile was still mid-configuration so it can't have been in use)
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[21:48] <gordonDrogon> if you delete it when its in-use, it will be ok - the file will look like its deleted, but still take up space on the disk - it will really be deleted when its closed.
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[21:50] <jrtc27> it was deleted (freed up the needed space), so seems ok then
[21:50] <gordonDrogon> mgottschlag, I think there may still be a small advantage to using a swap partition on spinning drives - you can physically position it in the middle of the most-used part of the disk - possible between the /usr and /home partitions - the idea being to minimise head movement - tuning like that was important 15+ years ago, but it's a lost art these days, and who bothers with partitions anyway... (I do on my servers, but .
[21:50] <gordonDrogon> ..)
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[21:51] <mgottschlag> hm, okay, thx
[21:53] <[Saint]> I bother with partitions because it makes recovery SO much easier.
[21:53] <gordonDrogon> and backups (well, the way I do them anyway)
[21:54] * [Saint] too
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[21:54] <[Saint]> And, in part, j would guess, habit.
[21:54] <[Saint]> Its kinda the mark of an old hat these days.
[21:56] <[Saint]> And, regarding swap, I would agree with you in every sense about the want to swap out as fast as possible on low resource systems, except for one small caveat.
[21:56] <[Saint]> On the raspi, the increased latency is highly obvious.
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[21:56] <[Saint]> So its kinda debatable as to whether it helps or not.
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[21:57] <[Saint]> As the system spends more time overall on the same task for the sake if keeping a task it could launch again open.
[21:57] <[Saint]> *sake of
[21:58] <gordonDrogon> my theory is that things like getty would get swapped out and stay swapped out, freeing up more ram for anything else...
[21:58] <gordonDrogon> but then its demand paged these days anyway, so who really knows and I don't have the time to do proper benchmarks.
[21:58] <[Saint]> Bit the question is whether or not swapping it back again is actually quicker than relaunching it
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> give me back my pdp11/40 with 128KW of core and 3MB drive... (and get off my lawn while you're at it ;-)
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[21:59] <[Saint]> If it is, win. I can certainly imagine cases where it might not be, though.
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[22:00] <gordonDrogon> I've not done anything on a Pi for a long time that's caused it to swap though. I even compiled the LAMP stack some time back and it didn't swap. thought it might with mysql, but it didn't.
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[22:01] <jrtc27> Seeing as my bouncer is back up, I'd say that reboot was a success
[22:01] <[Saint]> What do you use as a bouncer?
[22:01] <jrtc27> znc
[22:01] <[Saint]> Ive been using quassel-core for a few years.
[22:02] <gordonDrogon> I keep meaning to use a bouncer. one day.
[22:02] <[Saint]> I run a quassel-core for 8 users w/ an average of 10 clients each on a pi.
[22:04] <[Saint]> Yay. Visitor-kitten successfully delivered to her human.
[22:05] <[Saint]> We had a cold, hungry, obviously lost (fat, and well cared for) kitten show up at the door last night.
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[22:05] <jrtc27> I even went all-out and have a subdomain pointing at my bouncer, because why not
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[22:06] <[Saint]> 'cos...quassel. :)
[22:06] <gordonDrogon> right. bread beating up time. honey spelt and something else tonight. possibly plain old white...
[22:06] <gordonDrogon> back later.
[22:06] <IT_Sean> $coworker keeps pointing out puppies that need adopting in the area (she is apparently on the local shelter's mailing list). Going to solve that with a few changes to the spam filter.
[22:07] <[Saint]> I would love ALL the kitties, if I could.
[22:07] <[Saint]> But we already have 6.
[22:07] <[Saint]> (Yeah...I know)
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[22:07] <IT_Sean> aaaaaaaaaaand [Saint] is now the #raspberrypi Crazy Cat Lady.
[22:07] <IT_Sean> Officially.
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[22:08] <ShorTie> Laughs Out Loud
[22:08] <The_ManU_212> linuxstb: any idea?
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[22:08] <Matrikular> well, i ordered everything by adafruit now, if im not mistaken, no extra fees except for the tax goes on top, thank you for you help / input on this
[22:08] <Matrikular> at
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[22:17] <jrtc27> [Saint] 6?!
[22:17] <jrtc27> wow
[22:17] <jrtc27> and I thought someone I knew was a crazy cat person...
[22:18] <jrtc27> they only have 3 (maybe 4)
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[22:18] <[Saint]> I had two, she had two, one adopted us, and one came with the last flat we were in.
[22:18] <[Saint]> It just kinda...happened.
[22:19] <[Saint]> Over the course of 5 years.
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[22:21] <jrtc27> ah
[22:21] <jrtc27> maybe your shared love of kittens brought you together?
[22:21] <jrtc27> it's clearly a sign
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[22:23] <The_ManU_212> http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af162/Hunnamunnafeeb/tumblr_l292p6Wgd31qalxfho1_100.gif
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[22:24] <[Saint]> Heh. Dat photobucket tho...
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[22:24] <[Saint]> All the hip cats (excuse the pun) use Imgur and/or gyfcat now.
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[22:30] <shiftplusone> is that like angelfire and geocities?
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[22:37] <linguini> One of my two raspberry pis suddenly stopped reading sd cards.
[22:38] <linguini> The pi was from element14 and is in a clear case that makes the sd card insertion a little "tight".
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[22:39] <linguini> But other than that, I don't have a clue why it stopped working. My other pi reads the same SD cards.
[22:39] <shiftplusone> if you examine the sd slot closely, does it appear undamaged?
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[22:40] <linguini> It appeared undamaged, but one or two of the little gold arms /may/ have been a little flat.
[22:40] <debichu> maybe it's like in the 80's where the trick to get cartridges working again, you just had to blow some air in it
[22:42] <linguini> I ended up using a pair of tweezers to put a little more of a "bend" in the flattest gold arm to make sure contact was made.
[22:42] <shiftplusone> try pushing the card against the contacts with your thumbs as you power up the pi and note if the ACT LED does anything
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[22:44] <gordonDrogon> made white dough. that'll annoy the local hand-knitted folks tomorrow - maybe ;-)
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[22:44] <jrtc27> white bread > brown bread
[22:45] <shiftplusone> getting a little breadist in here O_o
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> I also made them some spelt...
[22:45] <rikkib> Fear the WI
[22:45] <jrtc27> am I not allowed to have a preference? D:
[22:45] <linguini> shiftplusone: Indeed! I get a little flicker on the ACT button when squeezing the card in and turning power on. Without the sqeeze, no ACT light.
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> however my spelt is now a blend of 50% white spelt and 50% wholemeal spelt.
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[22:45] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, the WI have nothing on my scones, let me tell you!
[22:46] <rikkib> Mum always complains about WI judging
[22:46] <jrtc27> WI?
[22:46] <rikkib> Woman's Institute
[22:47] <jrtc27> ah
[22:47] <shiftplusone> linguini, find a stiffer card, slap some stickers ont he existing one to make it thicker or replace the sd slot with something a little more sensible
[22:47] <rikkib> Formally the Country Women's Institute in NZ
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[22:48] <linguini> shiftplusone: Thanks for the tips; I'll see if I can rig something up.
[22:48] <shiftplusone> linguini, good luck. I ended up replacing the slots on a few of mine.
[22:48] <linguini> Is this a common problem in pi's? I'm tempted to blame the [now removed] case, which forces the SD card to go in at a slight angle.
[22:49] <jrtc27> my case isn't putting pressure on the SD card...
[22:49] <linguini> jrtc27: element14 clear case?
[22:50] <shiftplusone> linguini, It's not common, no. However, it's not uncommon either.
[22:50] <jrtc27> it's the clear one that comes with some
[22:50] <jrtc27> so I think so?
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[22:50] <jrtc27> it has a small pi logo at the SD card end
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[22:51] <shiftplusone> O_o there are lots of different cases like that
[22:52] <linguini> My case looks like this: http://www.amazon.com/SB-Raspberry-Pi-Case-Clear/dp/B008TCUXLW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403729449&sr=8-1&keywords=clear+case+raspberry+pi
[22:52] <jrtc27> oh it says element14 on the bottom (black label)
[22:52] <jrtc27> mine covers up the BPIO pins
[22:52] <jrtc27> *GPIO
[22:53] <linguini> shiftplusone: Did you buy, unsolder, resolder?
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[22:54] <shiftplusone> aye
[22:54] <linguini> oye
[22:55] <linguini> I may try sticking something under the gold arms instead; we'll see if works.
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[22:55] <shiftplusone> had to carefully snip the pins of the old one (without lifting the pads), remove the slot and pins, solder on a new one
[22:55] <shiftplusone> that was the plan anyway
[22:56] <shiftplusone> in reality, I bought the wrong slot and lifted a pad on my first attempt
[22:56] <shiftplusone> the slot actually had to go on upside down.
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[23:01] <rikkib> compass & rf24
[23:02] <ShorTie> pssst, hot air
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[23:02] <shiftplusone> that's your answer to everything
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[23:03] <ShorTie> not everything
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[23:03] * [Saint] has a reflow element
[23:03] <[Saint]> Way easier than air.
[23:03] <ShorTie> of course i'm full of it
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[23:04] <jrtc27> btw, where should I go to report that bug with the dphys-swapfile package?
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[23:04] <jrtc27> (since it's specific to Raspbian)
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[23:06] <[Saint]> I'm not exactly sure. Its clear from your post that the original, sane, 100MB value was initially set.
[23:07] <[Saint]> That was the default for as long as I used raspbian.
[23:07] <[Saint]> (Which admittedly wasn't long, but, hey)
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[23:08] <jrtc27> yeah, basically when I updated it asked me whether I wanted my config to be overwritten with an updated version, so I said yes (which is fair enough IMO since I didn't change anything myself)
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[23:09] <[Saint]> Where the heck it got 990MB from is beyond me.
[23:09] <jrtc27> double my RAM
[23:09] <jrtc27> (its default)
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[23:09] <jrtc27> (limited to max 2GB)
[23:10] <[Saint]> Your ram is 495MB?
[23:10] <jrtc27> 16MB graphics, 1MB unaccounted for
[23:10] <jrtc27> presumably reserved for kernel use or something
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[23:12] <[Saint]> You must be making some sacrifices, I would bet.
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[23:12] <jrtc27> for what?
[23:13] <[Saint]> Raspbian hasn't fitted on a 2GB card for AGES.
[23:13] <[Saint]> without a massive swapfile.
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[23:13] <jrtc27> I've since realised it's actually 4GB (was ~2GB free)
[23:14] <jrtc27> (initially that is)
[23:14] <[Saint]> Ahhhh...that makes some more sense.
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[23:14] <jrtc27> and even that's tight
[23:14] <[Saint]> I'll bet.
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[23:20] <Johannes`> Hi, is there any working way to set a warmer color temperature?
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[23:23] <[Saint]> Johannes`: f.lux
[23:24] <jrtc27> f.lux is great
[23:24] <Johannes`> [Saint]: ah, i thought there was no ARM version
[23:25] <Johannes`> where's the appropriate version?
[23:26] <Johannes`> not finding anything on google.
[23:26] <linguini> With firm squeezing, pi boots. As I gradually release my grip, error messages flow by the console about I/O.
[23:27] <ShorTie> vise grip ??
[23:27] <linguini> Shoving small wire insulation under gold arms did not work.
[23:28] <Johannes`> [Saint]: so is there actually an ARM version of f.lux?
[23:28] <[Saint]> Yes and no.
[23:28] <[Saint]> You'll need to compile it.
[23:28] <Johannes`> it's not open source
[23:28] <jrtc27> xflux is closed source
[23:29] <Johannes`> there is an alternative, redshift, but it didn't have any effect here
[23:29] <l_r> what's xflux
[23:29] <[Saint]> Theres sources upnin the PPA iirc.
[23:30] <[Saint]> *up in
[23:30] <linguini> Is there any way to use a pi without the SD card? Can it boot from USB or something?
[23:30] <jrtc27> even for xflux? I could only find sources for fluxgui
[23:30] <jrtc27> no
[23:30] <[Saint]> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/
[23:30] <jrtc27> you need a blob on the SD card
[23:30] <[Saint]> Bah...not what I wanted. But, close.
[23:31] <[Saint]> Silly mobile.
[23:31] <Johannes`> o.O
[23:31] <[Saint]> I'm fairly sure I've seen armel/HF binaries floating around.
[23:32] <Johannes`> this? http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-armhf/
[23:32] <jrtc27> still fluxgui
[23:33] <Johannes`> i don't get it.. there's an ARM version of the GUI for flux, but not of flux itself?
[23:33] <[Saint]> I...hmmmm.
[23:34] <[Saint]> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/debian-installer/binary-armhf/
[23:34] <[Saint]> Jeebus. Why was that so hard to find.
[23:35] <jrtc27> hm, maybe that has armhf binaries then
[23:35] * [Saint] slaps self
[23:35] <Johannes`> these files are empty it seems
[23:36] <[Saint]> Woo!
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[23:36] <Johannes`> ^_^
[23:36] <[Saint]> OK...so, apparently I'm blind, or insane, or this was never a thing.
[23:36] <[Saint]> Moving on.
[23:36] <jrtc27> ok, overclocking/overvolting - which of the presets are typically stable?
[23:37] <Johannes`> no
[23:37] <jrtc27> (I realise it varies between boards)
[23:37] <Johannes`> how does f.lux change the color profile?
[23:37] <Johannes`> certainly it shouldn't be too hard to call the underlying functions
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[23:38] <[Saint]> Maybe, but, Broadcomm is involved, son I wouldn't bet on it.
[23:38] <[Saint]> *so
[23:38] <[Saint]> ;)
[23:38] <Johannes`> why?
[23:38] <jrtc27> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17859/how-can-i-simply-adjust-monitor-color-temperture-in-x
[23:39] <[Saint]> jrtc27: after some rather extensive poking around in that area my position is it just isn't worth it.
[23:39] <Johannes`> redshift had no effect here
[23:39] <jrtc27> [Saint] for what reason?
[23:39] <Johannes`> same here: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/13905/is-there-any-way-to-get-redshift-to-work
[23:40] <[Saint]> jrtc27: the very marginal speed gain isn't worth risking all your data for.
[23:40] <[Saint]> Nonone likes a thrashed FS, do they?
[23:40] <[Saint]> *no one
[23:40] <Johannes`> "Failed to start adjustment method randr."
[23:40] <jrtc27> what if I said yes?
[23:41] <[Saint]> Then...go for it. But realistically much past 900MHz (which you don't need to OV for) is about the limit
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[23:42] <[Saint]> You might get 1GHz stable for a while but it almost certainly will crap the bed at some stage.
[23:42] <[Saint]> Just a question of when.
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[23:43] <[Saint]> I got pretty silly with the raspi overclockig early on.
[23:43] <[Saint]> One unit I could hold stable at ~1.8GB
[23:43] <[Saint]> ...for about half an hour.
[23:43] <[Saint]> When idle only.
[23:43] <[Saint]> :)
[23:44] <jrtc27> I'll try running it at 900MHz (2 OV actually)
[23:44] <jrtc27> 1.7?!
[23:44] <jrtc27> *1.8
[23:44] <jrtc27> also, GHz not GB ;)
[23:44] <[Saint]> Bah. Autocorrect. Thanks.
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[23:45] <jrtc27> autocorrect hates technical terms/abbreviations :/
[23:45] <jrtc27> brb
[23:46] <Johannes`> are there other video drivers than xf86-video-fbdev?
[23:46] <[Saint]> What's setting OV to 2 for 900MHz?
[23:46] <[Saint]> It shouldn't need OV at all at that clock.
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[23:56] <jrtc27> raspi-config is
[23:56] <Johannes`> i see that redshift is in the raspbian repos
[23:56] <Johannes`> does anyone have it working?
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