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IRC Log for 2014-06-27

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[0:09] <shiftplusone> LaraMaia, why isn't the analog output that exists on the pi already an option?
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[0:10] <shiftplusone> if you use pwm, you'll have exactly what it does anyway, so..... ?
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[0:14] <LaraMaia> shiftplusone: I want generate it using only pwm frequencies, with 8 samples.
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[0:16] <shiftplusone> 8 samples? 8 bit resolution you mean. In any case, you can play (or generate) 8-bit audio just fine already.
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[0:33] <LaraMaia> shiftplusone: u don't understand... i want use only pwm for generate sound frequencies and combine theses. no pcm, no avr, anything related.
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[0:34] <shiftplusone> that's how the pi generates the analog audio! using pwm! >_<
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[0:35] <shiftplusone> you can even do it directly by controlling the pwm signal without relying on alsa or any of that
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[0:47] <LaraMaia> oh god!
[0:47] <LaraMaia> is for study purposes
[0:48] <LaraMaia> analog audio is already "ready"
[0:48] <shiftplusone> not if you drive it manually. But if you insist, http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Raspberry-Pi-R2.0-Schematics-Issue2.2_027.pdf
[0:48] <shiftplusone> look at the analog circuitry
[0:49] <shiftplusone> you can take the same filters and move them to gpio
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[0:50] <shiftplusone> There's a pin which can be programmed as one of the hardware pwm lines... let me check which.
[0:51] <shiftplusone> GPIO18, which is pin 12
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[0:52] <LaraMaia> but i need 8 pin for 8bit, no?
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[0:54] <shiftplusone> nope. the 8-bit refers to the resolution of the signal, meaning you can have 256 different 'levels' for each sample.
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[0:55] <shiftplusone> Using pwm, you can do better, but you don't have to.
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[0:55] <LaraMaia> right, but how pwm can emit two levels at same time for two sound frequencies? this is not possible
[0:56] <shiftplusone> don't think in terms of frequencies yet.
[0:56] <shiftplusone> you use pwm to generate voltages
[0:57] <shiftplusone> and if you alter those voltages at a certain frequency, you shape the waveform
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[0:57] <LaraMaia> i need a 8bit sine wave
[0:57] <shiftplusone> not a problem
[0:59] <LaraMaia> i'm confused now
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[0:59] <shiftplusone> if you alter the frequency of the pwm signal, you adjust the effective output voltage, correct?
[1:00] <LaraMaia> right
[1:00] <shiftplusone> adjust it in a way that results in a sine wave
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[1:00] <Serus> hi
[1:00] <shiftplusone> do you know what is meant by sampling rate?
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[1:01] <Serus> I have 2 harddrives connected to my pi
[1:01] <Serus> once I connect my 500GB hdd my pi kernel panics
[1:02] <Serus> it didn't do this when it was the only drive connected
[1:02] <shiftplusone> for example, 22.05 kHz, 8 bit audio means that you can have 22050 'samples' every second. Each sample can be one of 256 different values.
[1:02] <Serus> wait let me test that out for a bit
[1:02] <Serus> brb
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[1:02] <shiftplusone> Serus, is this though a powered hub or do the harddrives have external power supplies?
[1:03] <Serus> both have external power supplies
[1:03] <shiftplusone> Serus, any chance they also draw power from the pi? Have you measured the TP1-TP2 voltage when it crashes?
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[1:05] <LaraMaia> a sound at a time is perfectly fine here, a can reproduce this in any needed frequency. The problem is include two frequencies, for exemple: a need a C (261hz) and E(329hz) notes played at same time.
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[1:05] <LaraMaia> this is my difficult
[1:05] <Serus> wait
[1:05] <shiftplusone> you just add the frequencies together
[1:06] <Serus> the pi is telling me it has errors on the root filesystem
[1:06] <shiftplusone> when you generate the waveform
[1:06] <Serus> and that it should be checked on errors
[1:06] <Serus> and that I should run fsck on it
[1:06] <Serus> yeap, it didn't start the sshd
[1:06] <Serus> brb
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[1:08] <Serus> ok back
[1:08] <Serus> so I have the SD card of the pi plugged in my laptop
[1:08] <Serus> how can I check it? I'm in linux
[1:08] <shiftplusone> LaraMaia, so sample(t)=A*sin(whatever*t)+B*sin(whatever2*t)
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[1:09] <LaraMaia> so I send this sample to output, this works? Need a dac?
[1:09] <shiftplusone> the PWM acts as the DAC
[1:10] <LaraMaia> oh god, i'm very dumb
[1:10] <binaryhermit> don't say that
[1:10] <shiftplusone> nuh, this stuff will do anyone's head in when getting started
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[1:11] <[Saint]> Morning piople.
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[1:11] <shiftplusone> 'morning [Siont]
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[1:13] <LaraMaia> I'll do some tests, thank you
[1:13] <shiftplusone> Good luck
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[1:15] <Serus> shiftplusone: ah
[1:15] <Serus> The filesystem was corrupted
[1:16] <Serus> I fixed it using my arch linux install
[1:16] <shiftplusone> excellent
[1:16] <Serus> now it should work
[1:17] <[Saint]> Android L dev preview flashy-flash time.
[1:17] <[Saint]> Man, I hate that new navigation bar so much...
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[1:19] <binaryhermit> if Android L is anything like kitkat it'll be a huge step backwards
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[1:20] <[Saint]> Many, many, many, many steps forward with the base OS.
[1:20] <[Saint]> The UI, though...jeebus.
[1:21] <shiftplusone> LaraMaia, think of sound as an array of signed char values (in your case). Given the sample rate you choose to use, you know which sample will be played at which time (t*rate). So you can easily use basic maths to define that array. The tricky part will be all of the practical stuff of driving the PWM and not getting confused between the PWM speed and your audio's sample rate and so on. Anyway.
[1:21] <shiftplusone> ... it's past midnight and I've got sleeping to do.
[1:21] <[Saint]> The underlying OS, and permissions management, and API management systems, are absolutely beautiful.
[1:21] <[Saint]> The direction they're taking with the UI leaves me speechless, though.
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[1:22] <[Saint]> binaryhermit: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/a-closer-look-at-the-user-interface-changes-in-android-l/
[1:22] <creek> Hi. I have this Ampex 210 serial terminal and a raspberry pi B and I cant get it to work, I have seen it work on a rpi A with debian and Im running rpi b with archarm, is there any big hardware diff on the serial pins on the A and B?
[1:23] <[Saint]> They murdered it.
[1:23] <shiftplusone> creek, no difference on the serial pins at all
[1:23] <binaryhermit> the devices they released the preview for makes me believe the Nexus 4, 2012 Nexus 7, and Nexus 10 are getting left behind
[1:24] <creek> shiftplusone: thanks, than there must be a problem with the OS or my connections...
[1:25] <binaryhermit> and, other than the new on-screen back, home, and multitasking icons, I don't see it as that bad
[1:25] <binaryhermit> then again, I lived with a LG Vortex running Froyo for like 27 months
[1:25] * binaryhermit shudders
[1:26] <binaryhermit> then again, froyo was the least of the Vortex's issues
[1:26] <binaryhermit> such as like 100 MB of ROM for installing apps
[1:27] <[Saint]> Its funny thinking about how the UI has changed so dramatically over the years.
[1:27] <[Saint]> Gingerbread, at the time, was kinda cool.
[1:27] <[Saint]> Now...lol.
[1:28] <binaryhermit> I've never seen a Gingerbread device that was close to stock
[1:28] <[Saint]> Ah.
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[1:29] <[Saint]> Vendors had some fun murdering GB.
[1:29] <binaryhermit> closest is my mom's Droid Incredible 2, which was sensed up the wazoo
[1:30] <binaryhermit> hmm... http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-device-program-isnt-going-away?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=dlvrit
[1:31] <[Saint]> My first Android experience was AOSP, and then, still very much naive about dramatic vendor ROM customization, I got a handset that was touchwiz based.
[1:31] <[Saint]> It freaked me out.
[1:31] <[Saint]> It took ages to get used to it.
[1:32] <binaryhermit> I've had a LG Vortex, which is allegedly stock-ish, 2 Nexus 7s (1 2012, 1 2013), a Droid RAZR M (sort of stock-ish) and a Moto X (Mostly stock)
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[1:35] <[Saint]> What is the current one?
[1:35] <binaryhermit> Moto X
[1:36] <[Saint]> I'm using a Note 3 at the moment (nowhere even close to stock).
[1:36] <[Saint]> My Nexus 5 has a cracked digitizer.
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[1:37] <binaryhermit> my one issue with the moto x is that I got a wood back, whereas I'd probably be happier with a black back and colored accents of some type
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[1:37] <[Saint]> But I have too many handsets to be healthy, I suppose. Ms. [Saint] also has almost every flavor of Galaxy Tab there is.
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[1:38] <[Saint]> The Note 3 I got for her a while ago.
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[1:38] <[Saint]> But I'm using it now, until I repair or replace my Nexus 5.
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[1:41] <creek> Ok, I got my terminal talking but its just random crap
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[1:47] <AbbyTheRat> man, I was busy...
[1:48] <AbbyTheRat> I'm coding now.. and streaming my coding x_x
[1:48] <AbbyTheRat> http://www.twitch.tv/abbytherat
[1:48] <AbbyTheRat> IT'S SCARY
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[2:42] <AbbyTheRat> Ok.. all but one button is fine..
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[2:43] <AbbyTheRat> this one button keeps .. bouncing I guess
[2:43] <AbbyTheRat> always seem to do a second press.. it seem to be picking up release as a key press
[2:44] <AbbyTheRat> sometimes the up button does but much more rarely.. but that down button.. every damn time
[2:44] <AbbyTheRat> with sometimes not doing it
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[2:44] <AbbyTheRat> Any ideas?
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[2:57] <lastnode> hello everyone
[2:58] <lastnode> i dont have a way to power my rpi because my local reseller is out of usb power supplies atm
[2:58] <lastnode> http://dirisala.net/blog/2013/07/powering-raspberry-pi-from-imac/
[2:58] <lastnode> this says i can power it off the usb port of my imac
[2:58] <lastnode> i was just wondering, after doing so, will running a usb webcam off the pi be dangerous for it?
[2:58] <lastnode> i am sorry if that is a dumb question. i am very new to electronics
[3:01] <JayGee> i don't think it would be dangerous, it comes down to power provided over USB, which might not be enough to power your webcam plus the Pi.
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[3:02] <JayGee> If there's an issue i'd imagine the webcam would stop working, the Pi would give itself enough power before giving any to the webcam.
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[3:35] <foxtrotniner> how do you guys go about mounting a rPi in a project box?
[3:35] <foxtrotniner> or ya just let it float?
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[3:40] <rikkib> 3http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-dev.jpg
[3:40] <rikkib> I mount in ali boxes that I make
[3:41] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-sys1.jpg
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[3:42] <lastnode> thanks JayGee
[3:42] <lastnode> but i cant damage pi right?
[3:42] <foxtrotniner> standoffs?
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[3:43] <rikkib> nylon bolts and spacers
[3:43] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-cam-mod.jpg
[3:44] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-cambox1.jpg
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[3:45] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-cambox2.jpg
[3:45] <foxtrotniner> i have some motherboard standoffs and some JB Weld
[3:46] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-outdoor.jpg
[3:46] <rikkib> There are some many ways
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[7:37] <Willchill_> What're the signs of an unstable overclock?
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[8:22] <[Saint]> SirLagz:
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[8:24] <SirLagz> [Saint]: Australia is finally getting some FTTN rollout goodness
[8:24] <SirLagz> [Saint]: pity it's not anywhere near me lol
[8:25] <SirLagz> [Saint]: and pity it's FTTN and not FTTP
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[8:25] <[Saint]> It ought to help you, somewhat, indirectly, ay least.
[8:25] <SirLagz> [Saint]: yeah, it's just a trial rollout over east
[8:25] <[Saint]> AFAIUI, your copper network is almost always at 100% saturation.
[8:26] <[Saint]> So, this helps.
[8:26] <SirLagz> depends on the area
[8:27] <[Saint]> It is so depressing that it took so long to get the upgrade sorted out that Australia skipped an entire generation of technology.
[8:27] <SirLagz> [Saint]: haha, i know hey
[8:27] <[Saint]> But, going straight from ADSL/2/2+ to FTTN is pretty cool.
[8:27] <SirLagz> [Saint]: woulda been cooler to get FTTP
[8:27] <[Saint]> Missed out on a decades worth of VDSL/2 though.
[8:27] <SirLagz> [Saint]: workmate has FTTP. 100/40 speeds. I so want :(
[8:27] <SirLagz> [Saint]: well. Guess what tech the FTTN is going to use...
[8:28] <SirLagz> VDSL/2
[8:28] <[Saint]> Ahhhhh, FTTN, VDSL node<->VDSL2
[8:28] <[Saint]> Nice.
[8:28] <SirLagz> yep
[8:28] <[Saint]> Better than a kick in the face.
[8:29] <SirLagz> but there are doubts about whether our copper can even handle VDSL2 haha
[8:29] <[Saint]> Yeah, that's why I mentioned the saturation issues earlier.
[8:29] <SirLagz> [Saint]: oh, not the saturation. I meant the actual copper in the ground.
[8:30] <SirLagz> Some of the cabling is so old it can barely handle voice calls, much less VDSL
[8:30] <[Saint]> Well, were that better, it wouldn;t be so heavily saturated.
[8:30] <SirLagz> haha true
[8:30] <[Saint]> Same issue, different way of looking at it.
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[8:30] <SirLagz> can't wait until FTT[NP] gets to my premise
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[8:31] <[Saint]> We have a pretty nice FTTD connection kindly donated to us by Telecom NZ Christchurch at out hackerspace.
[8:31] <[Saint]> So, I'm a bit naughty, and I use it as a proxy for bulk downlaods.
[8:32] <[Saint]> Its like *riiiiiiight* next to the main exchange in town.
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[8:33] <[Saint]> My home connection is pretty fast, but, its not /that/ fast.
[8:33] <[Saint]> So I use the hackerspace connection to pull in large downloads, and then grab if from the hackerspace to my mouse.
[8:33] <[Saint]> Which ends up considerable faster than downloading to my place direct.
[8:33] <SirLagz> haha nice
[8:34] <[Saint]> By about an factor of 2.
[8:34] <SirLagz> FTT...door ?
[8:34] <SirLagz> FTT...d..?
[8:34] <[Saint]> Yeah.
[8:34] <SirLagz> so FTTP pretty much ?
[8:34] <[Saint]> FTTP exactly, I think FTTD is an NZism.
[8:34] <SirLagz> So much want for FTTP dammit
[8:34] <[Saint]> Sorry.
[8:34] <SirLagz> ah i see
[8:35] * SirLagz images FTTD as an optic fibre cable that ends at a door, just sitting on the ground chilling
[8:35] <[Saint]> I would already have it, were it not for stoopid mother nature and stoopid earthquakes.
[8:35] <[Saint]> I've had my slot in the quese delayed by ~12 months twice.
[8:35] <SirLagz> damn that sucks
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[8:36] <SirLagz> at least you got a slot though!
[8:36] <[Saint]> They flatly *refuse* to run the cables above ground, even though in ~75% of Christchurch Central the existing copper power and telephony networks are run above ground. :-/
[8:36] <SirLagz> NBN isn't slated to pass me. ever. according to their current roadmap haha
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[8:36] <[Saint]> They draw the line at 6 cables, apparently.
[8:37] <[Saint]> 7, well...7 is an ungodly amount.
[8:37] <SirLagz> hahaha
[8:37] <[Saint]> So, they're burrying them.
[8:37] <[Saint]> And, mother nature keeps trashing them.
[8:37] <SirLagz> fun times
[8:38] <[Saint]> The other massive delay was caused by the earthquakes indirectly too.
[8:38] <SirLagz> i'm wondering what they're going to do here. Some councils are trying to bury everything
[8:39] <[Saint]> They had already laid most of the fiber betwork in the central business district, about 90% complete, and then the city fell over - 'cos, earthquakes, and now they're thinking "Well, actually, now we want the city to be laid out this way instead...", so all the cable they laid is in the wrong spots now.
[8:39] <[Saint]> And all irrelevant.
[8:39] <SirLagz> balls
[8:39] <[Saint]> $3.2M NZD spent on...nothing.
[8:39] <SirLagz> so are they just going to leave them in the ground ? Or rip em all up and start again ?
[8:40] <[Saint]> Leave it.
[8:40] <SirLagz> at least they'll be there in future if there's ever any reason to use em
[8:40] <[Saint]> It'd cost too much to pull it back up.
[8:40] <SirLagz> true
[8:40] <SirLagz> unless they were in the way of something
[8:41] <[Saint]> Well, yeah. They're going to relay the cales in a more sane fashion, now that they pretty much have a blank canvas to work with in the central city.
[8:41] <[Saint]> Its pretty much one giant carpark in there now.
[8:41] <[Saint]> With a few buildings, that will in time get pulled down themselves, still left standing.
[8:42] <[Saint]> They are going to run the fiber network alongside the new sewerage and waste water pumping networks.
[8:42] <[Saint]> So they only need to dig one big tranch.
[8:42] <[Saint]> *trench
[8:43] <[Saint]> With access hatches so they don't need to dig up the street every time a cable has a fault.
[8:43] <SirLagz> good idea
[8:43] <[Saint]> Pretty much a massive underground tunnel network full if IT infrastructure.
[8:43] <SirLagz> mmmmm IT lol
[8:43] <[Saint]> *of
[8:44] <[Saint]> Exchange cabinets and micro-nodes will live down in these trenches too.
[8:44] <SirLagz> ah nice. all nice and hidden away
[8:44] <[Saint]> Getting them off street corners.
[8:44] <SirLagz> at least that's one advantage of doing this restructure, can rebuild everything neatly
[8:44] <[Saint]> Drunk drivers regularly plow over them, and knock out telephony/Internet for a whoel city block.
[8:44] <[Saint]> That's one of the main issues.
[8:45] <[Saint]> People wiping out cabinets and micro-nodes with vehicles.
[8:45] <SirLagz> [Saint]: yeah we have the same issues here occasionally
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[8:46] <SirLagz> more commonly it's just rain rotting away the cables though haha
[8:46] <[Saint]> And, yes, having a clean slate to work with in the city is a very good thing. In the long term, it means that we won't actually have a functional city center again until about 2025, whereas if they rebult the existing structures, a lot of work would be completed by now.
[8:46] <SirLagz> true
[8:46] <[Saint]> But the chance to rebuild really gives them an opportunity to shape Christchurch into something really functionsal.
[8:47] <[Saint]> WHich I'm glad they are doing.
[8:47] <SirLagz> yeah so in the long term is way better
[8:47] <[Saint]> We have to wait a bit longer, but it will be better, safer, and able to tolerate another earthquake of the same, or larger, magnitude.
[8:48] <SirLagz> so that next time when a big earthquake happens, the only things to fall over are the things that are meant to fall over !
[8:48] <[Saint]> Right. :)
[8:48] <SirLagz> when was the earthquake again ? a few years ago ?
[8:50] <[Saint]> Sep 2010 @ 7.1 Richter, and Feb 2011 @ 6.3 Richter
[8:50] <SirLagz> wow
[8:50] <[Saint]> Those were the two *big* ones.
[8:50] <SirLagz> some pretty big quakes
[8:51] <[Saint]> But, since 2010, there's been over 4k QUAKES LARGHER THAN rICHTER 3
[8:51] <[Saint]> sorry caps
[8:51] <SirLagz> 4000 ?
[8:51] <[Saint]> Yeah.
[8:51] <SirLagz> holy crap
[8:51] <[Saint]> Nuts huh?
[8:51] <SirLagz> what's it like when a quake hits ?
[8:51] <[Saint]> Richter 3 is kinda like "Oh, huh...was that an earthqu...? Yeah, probably"
[8:52] <SirLagz> haha...guess you get used to it after 4000 of em
[8:52] <[Saint]> Richter 7.1 was like "OMG, I'm going to die"
[8:52] <[Saint]> I honestly thought I was a goner, and that the appartment was coming down.
[8:52] <SirLagz> I'd never want to deal with the aftermath of a big earthquake, but I've always been curious what it'd be like to be in an earthquake
[8:52] <[Saint]> I was on the third floor, the kitchen of my appartment, and I thought the whole thing was coing down.
[8:52] <SirLagz> holy crap. scary huh
[8:53] <[Saint]> They say you should get under something, get under cover, etc.
[8:53] <[Saint]> But in reality, you freak out, like a rabbit in the headlights, and just freeze.
[8:53] <[Saint]> Freeze, and hope you don't die, and that it stops soon.
[8:54] <[Saint]> My partner and I were in bed for the first big one, and we just held each other, and didn't say anything. We both thought that that was going to be the end of it.
[8:54] <[Saint]> We had no idea what was happening. 4am, woken up to the entire house violently shaking, and everyhthing that used to reside in cupboards being thrown across the room.
[8:55] <SirLagz> the first one in 2010 ?
[8:55] <[Saint]> All the glass windows breaking, plates and cups being thrown around.
[8:55] <[Saint]> Its scary as hell.
[8:55] <SirLagz> yeah I can imagine
[8:55] <[Saint]> Yeha.
[8:55] <tanuva> can you tell how long those quakes take?
[8:55] <tanuva> (except not really having time for that when you're wondering if the building stands its ground)
[8:56] <[Saint]> No, you never know if its going to get worse, or when its going to stop, its pretty unnerving.
[8:56] <[Saint]> We got quite complacent about them for a while, earthquakes were common place, people stopped reacting to them.
[8:56] <[Saint]> They became normal.
[8:56] <SirLagz> until a big one hits ?
[8:56] <[Saint]> Yeah...that's what happen with the 2011 quake.
[8:57] <SirLagz> [Saint]: do you live close to the CBD ?
[8:57] <[Saint]> It started off pretty mellow, and very slow, and then suddenly turned into a very, veryu violent skae.
[8:57] <[Saint]> Lasted for 42 seconds.
[8:57] <[Saint]> But, that 42 seconds feels like a lifetime.
[8:57] <SirLagz> holy crap. 42 seconds of pure terror =/
[8:57] <[Saint]> SirLagz: about 10 minutes walk away, yeah.
[8:58] <[Saint]> Right on the edge of the CBD.
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[8:59] <SirLagz> so you probably saw the worst damage pretty quickly then ?
[8:59] <SirLagz> did your apartment get damaged ?
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[8:59] <[Saint]> No. Not at all. And that also showed how weird earthquakes can be.
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[9:00] <SirLagz> crazy. I'm just reading up on one of the quakes where a whole building caught fire and collapsed
[9:00] <[Saint]> An identical appartment block next to us, and a single story wooden home on the other side of us, were completely destroyed.
[9:00] <SirLagz> wow
[9:00] <SirLagz> lucky for you
[9:00] <[Saint]> Yeah...that was...bad. The CTV tower buildings.
[9:00] <SirLagz> yeah, crazy amount of damage one
[9:00] <SirLagz> done*
[9:01] <[Saint]> The first thing we saw on the horizon from town was the huge cloud of dust that came from the CTV collapse.
[9:01] <[Saint]> It just collapsed on itself like a stack of pancakes.
[9:01] <[Saint]> No one had a chance in there.
[9:02] <SirLagz> the quake happend at lunchtime didn't it ?
[9:02] <[Saint]> Thereabouts, yeah.
[9:02] <SirLagz> ouch
[9:02] <SirLagz> so a lot of people would have been at work etc
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[9:02] <[Saint]> Lots of people wandering around in the streets, out getting lunch, yeah.
[9:02] <[Saint]> Not knowing where to run as all of a sudden buildings start toppiling.
[9:03] <SirLagz> would have been terrifying to be in the CBD when the quake hit =/
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[9:04] <[Saint]> Ms. [Saint] worked in a very large multi-story hotel in the CBD at the time, and she was at work, and I was at home.
[9:04] <SirLagz> oo that woulda been a worry
[9:04] <[Saint]> Looking over at the direction of her work, and only seeing huge clouds of dust, and smoke from fires, was...well, it was awful.
[9:04] <SirLagz> was her work damaged by the quake ?
[9:05] <[Saint]> And of course, the cellular networks were overloaded, so no one could get through to anyone.
[9:05] <[Saint]> Yeah, her work was pretty heavily damaged.
[9:05] <SirLagz> did she make it out unscathed ?
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[9:05] <[Saint]> Relatively, yes, thankfully.
[9:06] <SirLagz> that's good.
[9:06] <SirLagz> Sorry, am i talking too much about this ?
[9:06] <SirLagz> just got curious, sorry
[9:06] <[Saint]> No, its fine. :)
[9:06] <SirLagz> i don't know when to stop sometimes lol
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[9:09] <icecube45> is this storytime with [Saint]
[9:09] <icecube45> ?
[9:09] <[Saint]> Gather round, children...
[9:10] <SirLagz> haha
[9:10] <icecube45> dim the lights
[9:10] <icecube45> 2spooky4me
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[9:14] <SirLagz> [Saint]: now I'm looking at the Japan quake cos I got sidetracked lol...
[9:14] <SirLagz> damn my curious mind
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[9:15] <[Saint]> I felt bad for Japan with that quake.\
[9:15] <[Saint]> When it hit, their USAR team was here, helping us.
[9:15] <[Saint]> And then they had to go home, and do it all over again.
[9:15] <SirLagz> yeah saw that
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[9:15] <SirLagz> poor blokes
[9:15] <[Saint]> :-/
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[9:18] <SirLagz> anyways. should get back to work
[9:18] <SirLagz> [Saint]: talk to ya later :D
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[9:19] <[Saint]> o/
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[9:51] <Beware116> heyheyhey
[9:51] <Beware116> anyone awake with any experience using Limelight?
[9:53] <Beware116> my problem is i can't get input to work through the pi. I have video, but i can't control it unless i use a keyboard and mouse plugged into the host computer. there's an error that gets thrown up immediately before the video feed starts, but it's too quick for me to read it
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[9:53] <Beware116> i've checked ~/by-path and set all of my event* input flags
[9:54] <Beware116> i'm using GFE 2.1 on the host computer
[9:54] <Beware116> Rasbian on the Pi with a version of limelight i compiled yesterday
[9:54] <Beware116> using Oracle Java, not OpenJDK
[9:56] <Beware116> i can provide any other necessary info
[9:58] <Beware116> oh yeah, and it doesn't work if i don't flag the inputs either
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[10:20] <lastnode> hi all
[10:21] <ParkerR> Hello
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[10:24] <lastnode> how long should copying a rasbian image
[10:24] <lastnode> to a 4gb sd card take?
[10:24] <lastnode> im using dd
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[10:28] <Beware116> I've now downgraded to 2.0.1 to see if that would change anything. It hasn't
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[10:29] <Beware116> If I can't get this working I'm returning my 780
[10:29] <Beware116> XD
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[10:30] <Beware116> I'll probably return the pi too =\
[10:31] <Beware116> So many people, so little chatter
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[11:20] <salah> Hi. I downloaded SD Formatter and NOOBS v1.3.8, followed the steps and booted up. Before choice of operating system I get "ERROR formatting FAT partition [...] Error: The location 199821M is outside of the device /dev/mmcblk0". Googling don't bring me any closer. Any ideas?
[11:23] <linuxstb> salah: Which steps are you following? Do you have a link?
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[11:24] <salah> linuxstb, http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/
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[11:25] <linuxstb> salah: Are you using OS X?
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[11:35] <gordonDrogon> is it possible you're using an SD card that's too small? I think you need 4GB for noobs...
[11:35] <gordonDrogon> however 199821M would be 20G - way over size anyway...
[11:36] <salah> linuxstb, yes and I found out that Finder somehow fucks up the partition, I just got it working
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[11:48] <gordonDrogon> salah, try to keep it family friendly if possible please...
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[11:52] <geordie> he meant to say "fouls it up", but his finger slipped on the keyboard :)
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[12:07] <Davespice> in a grumpy mood today :(
[12:07] <Davespice> wife phoned from Glastonbury to say our camera had been stolen
[12:07] <Textmode> :/
[12:07] <Davespice> damn thieves
[12:08] <Davespice> I'm glad it was only a cannon one, worth about £200, not a big DSLR
[12:08] <Davespice> I would've cried
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[12:13] <Davespice> come on guys <tap> <tap> sympathy... victim of crim here ;)
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[12:14] * Textmode huggles Davespice ;_;
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[12:14] <Davespice> thanks for that, I feel a bit better
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[12:23] <gordonDrogon> Davespice, Bother.
[12:23] * Davespice shrugs
[12:24] <Davespice> shame also as I think its put her on a downer and the weather is awful too
[12:24] <gordonDrogon> it's sad that that happens somewhere which is celebrating good music, etc.
[12:24] <gordonDrogon> but I guess it's jus a matter of numbers - when you get a few 100,000 people together 1 or 2 are going to be badduns )-:
[12:24] <Davespice> I know right! Thing is thieves know people are going to be distracted so its the perfect opportunity to steal
[12:25] <Davespice> saw on the BBC this morning they're worried about the ground where Metallica are playing
[12:25] <gordonDrogon> and I'd have thought the ticket price would put them off, but I guess there are some who'll be there to deliberately make a profit on their thefts over the ticket price - just watch ebay in the next few weeks...
[12:25] <Davespice> it's gonna be a proper mud path of epic proportions
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> it's sunny here right now, but showers on & off.
[12:26] <Davespice> yeah could do that actually, I've heard of theieves being caught that way
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[12:28] <creek> So, I have this RS232 to TTL from SparkFun to connect my old serial terminal to the Pi, the terminal receives from the pi but the pi dont seem to receive
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> are you powered it from 5v or 3.3v ?
[12:29] <creek> 3
[12:30] <gordonDrogon> only wat to tell would be to use a 'scope on the wire to the Pi. (assumuing connections are all ok, etc.)
[12:30] <Davespice> Is it a Max3232? I've got one of those and it needs 5 volts
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[12:30] <gordonDrogon> some can be powered from 3.3 though.
[12:31] <shiftplusone> Davespice, how are you with VC stuff?
[12:31] <Davespice> creek: what have you got an old DEC one?
[12:31] <Davespice> VC?
[12:31] <shiftplusone> videocore
[12:31] <creek> I have a lod Ampex 210 from 84..
[12:31] <shiftplusone> but I think I have my answer =P
[12:32] <Davespice> oh right, I've done some opengles programming, to draw spinning 3D objects and stuff but I've never poked around with the drivers or anything, you could try asking in #raspberrypi-internals, they're often quite helpful
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[12:32] <shiftplusone> thanks
[12:33] <Davespice> creek: wow old school
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[12:33] <creek> Ye, well I wish it would work..
[12:34] <creek> The pi has more power than the mainfraim that it used to be connected to... :P
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[12:39] <creek> I cant get past the f''''ing login screen :(
[12:40] <creek> So I have to ssh in to the pi and see if I can set up a autologin for the ttyAMA0..
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[12:43] <creek> So Im logged in.
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[12:48] <Davespice> hmm, so you don't see any output as the pi is booting?
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[12:49] <Davespice> in /boot/cmdline.txt there is part of the command which redirects the boot putput to /dev/ttyAMA0
[12:49] <Davespice> output sorry
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[12:49] <Davespice> and then I think you need a line inside inittab to put a getty onto the serial console
[12:50] <Davespice> which would be there by default
[12:50] <Davespice> sometimes people take it out if they're using the serial port for other purposes
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[13:16] <lastnode> hi guys
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[13:16] <lastnode> i was just wondering is there any way to tell if my raspberry pi has booted
[13:16] <lastnode> (headless install)
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[13:17] <tig|> ping it?
[13:18] <tig|> ssh into it?
[13:20] <ShorTie> if your using the sdcard, just l00k at the act light
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[13:31] <lastnode> ShorTie: the act light?
[13:31] <lastnode> it is red
[13:31] <lastnode> but does that mean it has booted
[13:31] <lastnode> or is booting and may be stuck half way
[13:31] <lastnode> tig|: i cant ping or ssh into it bc i cant find its ip on the network
[13:31] <lastnode> and i feel maybe its ethernet connection isnt working
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[13:32] <shiftplusone> it can't be red, it's not a red LED
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[13:33] <shiftplusone> when you power up the pi, does the ACT led (NOT PWR LED) flash?
[13:34] <lastnode> just trying now
[13:34] <lastnode> PWR is red
[13:35] <lastnode> when should ACT start flashing?
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[13:35] <shiftplusone> pretty much straight away
[13:35] <shiftplusone> means it's reading the SD
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[13:37] <lastnode> ok it flashed now
[13:37] <lastnode> flashing
[13:37] <lastnode> green
[13:37] <shiftplusone> once it settles, it has probably booted
[13:37] <lastnode> is there any way to bind the rpi to a specific ip address
[13:37] <lastnode> (local ip)
[13:38] <lastnode> bc now it should be booted
[13:38] <lastnode> and my mac should be giving it an IP via DHCP
[13:38] <lastnode> but i cant seem to find it
[13:40] <shiftplusone> you should have a leases file somewhere
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[13:40] <nid0> but alternatively yes you can define a static ip in cmdline.txt
[13:40] <lastnode> i did via ip=192.168.2.3
[13:40] <lastnode> hmmm
[13:41] <pksato> lastnode: ethernet link led is on?
[13:41] <lastnode> no
[13:41] <lastnode> is that the LNK LED?
[13:41] <pksato> yes
[13:41] <lastnode> no
[13:42] <pksato> only power led is on? (act blinks)
[13:42] <lastnode> yes
[13:42] <pksato> or is wifi?
[13:42] <lastnode> now act stopped blinking
[13:42] <lastnode> it's not wifi
[13:42] <lastnode> ethernet
[13:42] <nid0> check ethernet cable then
[13:43] <pksato> what OS?
[13:44] <lastnode> ok
[13:44] <lastnode> im gonna go hit my head
[13:44] <lastnode> on the table for 5 mins
[13:44] <lastnode> brb
[13:44] * lastnode pulled out the cat5 cable, plugged in back in, and LNK lights up
[13:44] <lastnode> fml
[13:45] <lastnode> will rpi get a dhcp ip if i just let it?
[13:45] <lastnode> or is a static ip better
[13:46] <nid0> entirely up to you and your network
[13:46] <nid0> by default itll get a lease via dhcp, but you can tell it to set a static ip in cmdline.txt
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[13:48] <lastnode> waht is the easiest way to find out the ip address my mac gave out?
[13:48] <lastnode> grepping system log?
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[13:49] <Gadget-Mac> Sweet. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7nrunaE9Clic3BlQnpTRTFaUnM/edit?usp=sharing
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[13:53] <lastnode> http://ivanx.com/raspberrypi/ sweet pi finder helped!
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[14:02] <lastnode> thanks nid0 pksato shiftplusone !
[14:02] <shiftplusone> np
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[14:05] <Davespice> creek: did you manage to get it working in the end?
[14:06] <creek> Noop
[14:06] <Davespice> ah
[14:06] <Davespice> I presume you've tried the usual things like swapping tx and rx, and using a straight through and null modem DB9 to DB25?
[14:06] <creek> I re-soldered the TX cable but still nothing..
[14:07] <Davespice> hmm, this is the thing that I've used sucessfully before: http://www.davidhunt.ie/add-a-9-pin-serial-port-to-your-raspberry-pi-in-10-minutes/
[14:08] <Davespice> then just a DB25 adapter on top of that
[14:08] <Davespice> you can get them on ebay for a few quid
[14:08] <creek> It looks close to what I have..
[14:09] <Davespice> have a close look at this chip on it and see if you can make out MAX3232
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[14:11] <creek> I just swopped the tx and rx again and now I have some strange resolts
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[14:12] <Davespice> yeah I wonder if its getting crossed over in the DB25 adapter?
[14:13] <creek> If I swop tx and rx I get no output..
[14:14] <creek> thats about it..
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[14:15] <Davespice> can you test it on a PC?
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[14:15] <Malabal> hello all, I came in once before and had some advice prior to buying my Pi - I've purchased, set it up etc, and have installed the basics, lamp, webmin, phpmyadmin and an openVPN server. I've just finished configuring openVPN and have it all up and running, now my question is this. Could I somehow use my pi as a gateway/portal to VNC to other PCs on my LAN when I'm abroad, using the VPN to gain access to the network locally?
[14:15] <Davespice> just use Putty on a normal PC DB9 serial port
[14:15] <Davespice> if that works then you know the adapter is at least ok
[14:16] <Malabal> essentially, id like to avoid port forwarding VNC ports directly to PCs, as VNC's encryption is well non-existant
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[14:19] <creek> Davespice: No, no Windows pc here... Only Linux and FreeBSD
[14:20] <creek> And none of them has a GPIO...
[14:20] <pksato> Malabal: Now, you have a hard work to do. static routes and rules.
[14:21] <creek> Davespice: I was thinking that one of these might work... https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12827
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[14:22] <pksato> Routing is not easy to explain.
[14:22] <Malabal> pksato: ideally, I suppose I'd like to have the raspberry pi act as the middleman between the interwebs and my home network for remote access - so all remote access I want to perform remotely is done through the VPN for security. Basically from my phone/another PC connect to my pi through VPN, then once I've got my security tunnel, then be able to VNC from phone and htpc/desktop/laptop etc
[14:23] <pksato> think openVPN connection as other ISP.
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[14:24] <pksato> and. need to route internal connection through this openVPN.
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[14:25] <pksato> and not disturb real internet connection.
[14:26] <pksato> or you VPN goes down.
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[14:26] <crapp> I am using poll() http://linux.die.net/man/2/poll with the rpi gpio sysfs to catch interrupts
[14:27] <Malabal> hmm thats interesting - I just tried something. I connected to my pi VPN through my phone, then launched my phone's VNC viewer and was able to connect straight to one of my PCs using the internal IP (no port forwarding was set for this VNC channel).
[14:28] <Malabal> so does that mean, even though the VNC browsing I'm doing is unencrypted, its only unencrypted within the LAN ie: between the pi and HTPC? As soon as its coming through the VPN to my phone its encrypted?
[14:29] <crapp> i coded a c++ library for this. what happens if I have multiple threads and each thread is using poll on a different file descriptor(gpio) when two interrupts happen at the same time? or better said what is the time resolution i can expect from using poll on the pi? i measure the time between a falling and a rising signal edge on different gpios simultaneously.
[14:29] <pksato> Malabal: if internal ip is one of used by openvpn, not need extra routes.
[14:30] <crapp> signal length is between ~5ms and ~200ms
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[14:30] <crapp> 5ms should be no problem or?
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[14:33] <pksato> Malabal: suppose what remote (to rpi) peer have ip 10.8.0.4, if try connection to this ip from local network (connected to rpi, and rpi is default gw), can reach remote peer via openvpn.
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[15:00] <Cazi> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a loopback experiment I'm trying to setup. I currently have my pi's USB port connected to some of the gpio pins via the USB to TTL serial cable that came with the Pi. My goal is to be able to read/write from both interfaces.
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[15:02] <shiftplusone> you have it connected to the serial pins?
[15:03] <Cazi> Yeah, I have transfer and receive (green and white, right?) connected to gpio 14 & 18
[15:04] <shiftplusone> if everything is connected right, you've got ttyAMA0 and ttyUSB0 ready to talk to each other
[15:06] <Cazi> Cool, I've read some articles that mentioned using python scripts (After disabling the kernel from using the serial pins) to read/write from the serial end of things. Is there any way I can test communication straight from the terminal?
[15:07] <pksato> ttyAMA0 is a console, open minicom no USB0 and get shell access.
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[15:07] <pksato> if serial console is disabled, open minicom com both and see that is typed on one on other.
[15:08] <Cazi> Damn, I came across minicom a couple times. Pis don't natively come with mini com installed and I have no way of getting internet access on my Pi atm.
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[15:09] <pksato> cat /dev/USB0 on one shell, a echo "I am here." >/dev/ttyAMA0 on other shell. (don't know if really works)
[15:09] <Cazi> can't hurt to try
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[15:12] <Cazi> Btw, should I have the serial console disabled for this?
[15:12] <pksato> yes
[15:13] <Cazi> kk
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[15:16] <pksato> or try, cat /dev/USB0 and on other echo "That happens..." >>/dev/kmsg
[15:17] <Cazi> kk, just disabled the serial port, rebooting now
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> sudo apt-get install minicom ; minicom -D /dev/ttyUSB0
[15:19] <gordonDrogon> that should then bring up the default getty/login that's on the on-board serial port.
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[15:19] <Matrikular> hello (again)
[15:20] <Cazi> when I try cat /dev/USB0 I get no such file or directory, but my USB to serial cable is plugged in
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[15:20] <Cazi> Hey gordon, thanks for the suggestion, but I currently don't have internet on my pi so I can't install mini com :|
[15:20] <Cazi> I won't be able to get it for a couple hours
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[15:22] <Matrikular> im planning to control some led strips with one of my pis. if everything works as i plan to, i would like to control them via web interface, not sure if python, php or node - is there a reason not to use the latest debian? since im not going to use much of the beginner tools pre-installed, i though about using arch or something.
[15:24] <Cazi> i double-tabbed stty -f /dev/ and saw a ttyUSB0, Ill try that instead
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[15:25] <Cazi> kk, that worked, going to try echo on other shell
[15:26] <Cazi> fucking
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[15:26] <Cazi> eureka!
[15:26] <Cazi> btw pksato, this worked: cat /dev/USB0 on one shell, a echo "I am here." >/dev/ttyAMA0 on other shell
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[15:27] <Cazi> btw, i tried echoing to /dev/kmsg, but I got a permission denied. Even with sudo
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[15:28] <Cazi> that stand for kernel message? (I'm a little new to this all)
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[15:36] <gordonDrogon> I've not wory about /dev/kmsg when dealing with the serail ports
[15:36] <gordonDrogon> but it looks like you've done a simple test at least.
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[15:36] <Davespice> creek: sorry for late reply
[15:37] <Davespice> yeah that should work, looks like it uses the same chip as the one I mentioned
[15:38] <Cazi> yea I did, thanks for all of your help!!
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[15:43] <lastnode> does anyone know what happened to pidarknet?
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[15:52] <gordonDrogon> it went dark.
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[16:17] <Davespice> haha :D
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[17:19] <brian1001> hi everyone....does someone here have experience wtih lowering voltage to the PI?
[17:19] <brian1001> to the GPIO port of the PI i meant
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[17:30] <gordonDrogon> brian1001, nope..
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[17:30] <gordonDrogon> however on the compute module you can run the GPIO pins at 1.8v or 3.3v.
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> but not on a Pi.
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[17:32] <brian1001> it worked Gordon
[17:32] <brian1001> but it had a huge downside
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[17:32] <brian1001> i just called a electronic store and they said that i had to use a voltage regulator
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[17:34] <mgottschlag> brian1001: you have a signal which you want to feed into a GPIO pin of the pi?
[17:34] <mgottschlag> or do you want to power the whole pi at lower voltage?
[17:35] <mgottschlag> the former is easy, just use a voltage divider (two resistors)
[17:35] <brian1001> yes
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[17:35] <brian1001> i have a signal which i want to feed into the GPIO port
[17:35] <mgottschlag> what kind of signal?
[17:35] <brian1001> its a normally closed signal , sort of contact magnet reed
[17:36] <brian1001> it outputs 12V when there is no movement
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[17:36] <brian1001> and when there is movement ,it doesnt output the 12V
[17:36] <brian1001> I used this method: 12V --- 3k3 --- pi input and --- 1k2 ---GND
[17:36] <mgottschlag> okay, then you want a volatage divider, with 3:1 resistor ratio
[17:36] <brian1001> ah
[17:36] <brian1001> thank you mgottschlag
[17:36] <mgottschlag> that looks about right
[17:37] <brian1001> the problem with that method is that the device (which outputs the 12V) starts to act weird :)
[17:37] <brian1001> it sees movement all the time when i connect it like that
[17:37] <mgottschlag> do you have any datasheet/specs for the device?
[17:37] <brian1001> no sorry
[17:37] <brian1001> but it need a 12V input
[17:38] <mgottschlag> okay, cannot help then, quite some things could go wrong :)
[17:38] <brian1001> im gonna call the store back for that litlte device (from 12V -> 3.3V)
[17:38] <mgottschlag> if you have a multimeter, you probably should first measure the output voltage of the device when you have connected it and when you haven't
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[17:40] <brian1001> the 12V became 5 V
[17:41] <brian1001> but the little device also got 5v since i had to place one resistor to teh GND?
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[17:54] <Matrikular> im planning to control some led strips with one of my pis. if everything works as i plan to, i would like to control them via web interface, not sure if python, php or node - is there a reason not to use the latest debian? since im not going to use much of the beginner tools pre-installed, i though about using arch or something. second, what would be the prefered software / language of choice (python, php, node)?
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[19:19] <brian1001> not a direct raspberry pi
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[19:20] <brian1001> question but i wondered if someone knew a good open source electronic circuit simulator ?
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[19:28] <TheArtist> Hi all! i would like to ask a question. In what way this kernel https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux differs from the linux vanilla one?
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[19:47] <juniour> hi
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[21:38] <shiftplusone> TheArtist, O_o it has the pi-specific stuff that wouldn't be added to the upstream kernel.
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[21:57] <TheArtist> @shiftplusone like?
[21:59] <shiftplusone> usb and ethernet stuff, I suppose. I doubt that's upstream.
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[22:16] <brian1001> @everybody, if i would connect the GND of the PI , ot the GND Of a 5V adapter and then use a resistor on the PLUS side to lower the voltage from 5V to 3.3 V ? would that work ? :P
[22:18] <Encrypt> brian1001, It would work with a voltage divider
[22:18] <Encrypt> But be sure you have common grounds
[22:19] <brian1001> yes i will buy one tomorrow
[22:19] <brian1001> i just tried the 5V output of the Pi, resistor beteween it and then connected it to teh GPIO port (which worked fine)
[22:20] <brian1001> but needed a 2A adapter for the connected devices
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[22:24] <gordonDrogon> brian1001, how are you doing 5v output?
[22:24] <brian1001> i used the 5V output from the raspberry itself , until now , but i also have a 2A 5V adapter (which i want to use , if possible / safe)
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[22:24] <gordonDrogon> ah, ok - used it for power.
[22:25] <brian1001> yes
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[22:25] <gordonDrogon> I've used it for power in in the past.
[22:25] <gordonDrogon> there are big debates about the lack of polufuse on it, but that's up to you.
[22:25] <gordonDrogon> off for a bit. got some dough to knead.
[22:26] <brian1001> thank you Gordon!
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[22:54] <sla_erick> hi everyone
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[22:55] <sla_erick> does anyone owns a Logitech C920 and has used it with the RPi?
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[23:03] <sla_erick> anybody from Mexico?
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[23:08] <tig|> sla_erick: looks like it can use v4l2 : http://www.oz9aec.net/index.php/gstreamer/473-using-the-logitech-c920-webcam-with-gstreamer
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[23:10] <sla_erick> thanks tig| , i'll give it a try
[23:11] <rikkib> I use motion for web cams
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[23:12] <sla_erick> i've also used motion
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[23:12] <sla_erick> but i find it very poor for my customization needs
[23:12] <tig|> basically it looks like it works with v4l2 so should be fine with standard linux apps
[23:13] <sla_erick> great :)
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[23:14] <tig|> sla_erick: no guarentees though as I am just going on what some other random person on the internet said :)
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[23:15] <tig|> don't have one here, I have the pi camera module though which is very nice but doesn't have a microphone :)
[23:15] <sla_erick> tig|: no problem, its a very good start point
[23:15] <tig|> no idea if it available in mexico though
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[23:16] <Davespice> did anyone here back the ISEE3 reboot project? if so it's just turned up on the nasa deep space network: http://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html
[23:16] <sla_erick> i bought the c920 instead of the camera module because it was 50% off on amazon
[23:16] <tig|> Davespice: is that the written off nasa probe?
[23:16] <Davespice> thats the one
[23:17] <Davespice> seems to be functining okay
[23:17] <tig|> didn't back it as I didn't hear about it until well after it was funded
[23:17] <tig|> good to hear it is back online though :)
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[23:18] <Davespice> its not out of the woods yet, they need to do a burn on its thruster to avoid a lunar impact
[23:18] <Davespice> as far as I understand it
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[23:19] <tig|> Davespice: the whole thing is fantasic though, I hope it goes well as it would be a good example that could be used in the future
[23:20] * Davespice nods
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[23:20] <Davespice> I think they're going to make the data available to the public
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[23:22] <tig|> I would hope so, actually NASA is bound by some pretty strict rules about stuff that they generate (images etc) being in the public domain iirc
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[23:25] <Davespice> well, this probe will now be under civilian control, nasa haven't got anything to do with it really, although they've been helping out as much as they can, good of them to allow them to use the DSN for instance
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[23:26] <Davespice> prior to this they've been talking to it using the Arecibo dish
[23:26] <Davespice> which they paid for time on with the crowd sourced money
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[23:29] <tig|> I think a good way of putting it would be that while politicians are staring at spreadsheets, people are still staring at the stars :)
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