#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-07-02

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[0:36] <MY123> Is MPEG2 SD decoding wanted by the community without paying license fees?
[0:39] <MY123> No replies.
[0:39] <rikkib> Perhaps no one cares
[0:40] <rikkib> Personally I do not use RPi to play video only to capture video
[0:40] <geordie> MY123: it's the nature of irc. never get stressed or comment on no reply...
[0:41] <geordie> you don't really want 600 people saying "I don't know", do you?
[0:42] <rikkib> hhttp://122.61.65.146/
[0:42] <rikkib> opps http://122.61.65.146/
[0:42] <MY123> No, I don't want that. I have a half-working Vc4 MPG2 implementation without paying a cent!
[0:42] <rikkib> one of my cams has died... Better go checki it out
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[0:53] * Strife89 wonders if he just saw rikkib round a corner. :)
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[0:54] <rikkib> Not likely
[0:54] <rikkib> I am 100km away the cams
[0:54] <rikkib> from
[0:54] <Strife89> Ahh
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[0:55] <rikkib> Now have to send email to get the cam power cycled
[0:55] <rikkib> Normally the watchdog keeps the cams going but sometimes
[0:56] <ShorTie> things just don't play nice
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[1:03] <rikkib> What is really annoying is I can never pin down why the cams stop when they do stop.
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[1:04] <rikkib> One cam up 11:03:28 up 46 days, 33 min, 1 user, load average: 1.30, 1.22, 1.17
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[1:04] <rikkib> The other 11:04:30 up 36 days, 2:36, 1 user, load average: 1.01, 1.10, 1.13
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[1:06] <rikkib> Man NZ free to air TV sucks 4 channels a infomercials yet they still shove the same garbage on the other channels
[1:08] <rikkib> Slow creep-age of program time versus add time now running at about 50%
[1:08] <rikkib> For every half hour of program there is 15 minutes of adds
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[1:27] <fogrider> s
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[2:55] <[Saint]> rikkib: I think its about 60/40 program/ad, but, yeah - its still pretty crappy.
[2:56] * [Saint] recalls there not being any commercials on Sundays.
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[4:24] <halabund> How can I control whether a service will start after boot or not? (I don’t want it to and it does.) Generally, where can I learn about how this ‘service system’ works, and how I can set up my own, or modify the existing ones?
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[4:30] <SirLagz> halabund: what distro are you using ?
[4:30] <halabund> SirLagz: Raspbian.
[4:31] <SirLagz> halabund: if nothing has changed - update-rc.d <servicename> disable
[4:31] <halabund> I may not have expressed myself correctly, I am thinking of the thing I can control by “service something stop”, “service something start”, etc.
[4:31] <SirLagz> oh
[4:31] <halabund> SirLagz: Thanks!
[4:31] <SirLagz> wait
[4:31] <SirLagz> yes.
[4:31] <SirLagz> that will do it
[4:31] <SirLagz> halabund: you'll need to be root / run as sudo
[4:32] <halabund> SirLagz: Do you perhaps have a reference that explains the whole system of services? Most of the tutorials are really just recipes. They say, “type this or that command” to do this or that. But they don’t explain the basic mechanisms or principles behind it.
[4:33] <halabund> SirLagz: or a good keyword to google for to find this info
[4:33] <SirLagz> halabund: systemd or sysv-init
[4:33] <SirLagz> I don't remember what Raspbian uses
[4:33] <halabund> thanks!
[4:35] <wooter> Arduino does not have a fully fledged OS with Perl and Python ?
[4:35] <SirLagz> Arduinos typically don't have much storage. Hence why they don't have OSes
[4:35] <wooter> thanks
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[4:38] <bnmorgan> pi thinks is jan 1 0900utc 1970
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[4:38] <bnmorgan> how do i set it?
[4:38] <bnmorgan> not timezone, i did that already.
[4:38] <bnmorgan> moved me up from 1969
[4:38] <bnmorgan> running arch
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[4:57] <[Saint]> bnmorgan: is ntp installed?
[4:58] <[Saint]> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/time
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[4:58] <[Saint]> you may also need to set your timezone
[4:58] <[Saint]> $ timedatectl list-timezones
[4:59] <[Saint]> (then)
[4:59] * killer_prince is now known as lazy_prince
[4:59] <[Saint]> # timedatectl set-timezone <your_locale>
[5:00] * lazy_prince is now known as killer_prince
[5:00] <[Saint]> bnmorgan: anyhoo - yeah - archwiki is your friend
[5:01] <[Saint]> use it wisely, my son.
[5:01] <[Saint]> (and/or daughter)
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[5:16] <rikkib> Going to met Tim Carr from Mindkits next week...
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[5:19] <ItsMeLenny> i'm having trouble with this raspberry pi radio transmitter pifm, whenever i run it it says permission denied, and whenever i run it with sudo it says command not found, and chmoding didnt help
[5:20] <rikkib> sudo ./command
[5:20] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, thatsays command not found
[5:20] <rikkib> command not in the path
[5:21] <rikkib> adjust your path or put in the path
[5:21] <rikkib> /usr/bin
[5:21] <ItsMeLenny> i tried both and neither worked
[5:21] <rikkib> hmmm
[5:21] <BlackX> or "sudo /path/to/command"
[5:21] <ItsMeLenny> yeah i guess it will have to go in /usr/bin
[5:21] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, BlackX that didnt work either
[5:22] <ItsMeLenny> i did it every way, i just realised i didnt try doing PATH="" and adding it into that
[5:22] <rikkib> sudo wich command
[5:22] <rikkib> which
[5:22] <ItsMeLenny> sudo ./pifm
[5:22] <ItsMeLenny> https://github.com/Make-Magazine/PirateRadio
[5:22] <ItsMeLenny> i even recompiled it and it didnt work
[5:22] <ItsMeLenny> i mean it recompiled, but didnt fix my problem
[5:23] <rikkib> what does sudo which pifm say
[5:23] <ItsMeLenny> sudo which pifm?
[5:23] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[5:23] <ItsMeLenny> i dont know what which is, i'll have to plug it back in and try it
[5:23] <rikkib> that should yeild a path to the command
[5:23] <rikkib> which sh
[5:23] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[5:24] <rikkib> tells you the path to the sheel
[5:24] <rikkib> etc
[5:24] <ItsMeLenny> i did not know about this command, when i plug it back in i'll come back with results
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[5:27] <rikkib> ./ runs the command in the same directory
[5:28] <rikkib> in other words you must cd to the path where the command is located
[5:28] <rikkib> then ./pifm
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[5:40] <ItsMeLenny> rikkib, yeah i was doing it that way, it said it couldnt find it
[5:41] <rikkib> Make sure the executable bit is set
[5:41] <rikkib> don't ask me how to do it on the command line
[5:41] <rikkib> I use mc for that sort of thing
[5:41] <rikkib> as root of course
[5:42] <rikkib> apt-get install mc
[5:42] <rikkib> It will give you a better perspective of your file system
[5:43] <ItsMeLenny> yeah thats what chmod is meant to do
[5:43] <rikkib> mc will also run in user mode but less powerful
[5:43] <ItsMeLenny> sudo chmod +x ./pifm
[5:43] <ItsMeLenny> but it didnt work
[5:43] <ItsMeLenny> or didnt fix it at least
[5:43] <ItsMeLenny> im starting it up, have it [plugged into my crt tv, very bad overscan
[5:44] <ItsMeLenny> "which" printed out nothing
[5:44] <rikkib> pifm uses the pwm system I am pretty sure
[5:45] <rikkib> as such it may need root prvilages
[5:45] <[Saint]> "sudo chmod ./pifm" shouldn;t work.
[5:45] <[Saint]> But "sudo chmon pifm" should.
[5:45] <rikkib> ls -ax
[5:45] <[Saint]> or "sudo chmod /path/to/pifm"
[5:45] <[Saint]> s/chmon/chmod/
[5:46] <ItsMeLenny> sudo ./pifm says sudo: ./pifm: command not found
[5:46] <rikkib> I guess I don't see those issues as I am usually running as root
[5:47] <[Saint]> "pwd && ls -la"
[5:47] <[Saint]> give us that output please.
[5:47] <ItsMeLenny> -rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi
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[5:48] <rikkib> hmmm
[5:48] <[Saint]> Errr...what?
[5:48] <ItsMeLenny> thats for ./pifm
[5:48] <ItsMeLenny> but they all have that essentiall
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[5:49] <ItsMeLenny> why doesnt chmod seem to change anything
[5:50] <[Saint]> syntactical error I explained above
[5:50] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[5:50] <ItsMeLenny> still didnt fix it
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[5:51] <[Saint]> "sudo chmod +x /full/path/to/pifm"
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[5:52] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, that didnt make it executable either
[5:52] <[Saint]> if chmod isn't capable or able to set this control bit - you've got some rather serious issues...somewhere.
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[5:52] <ItsMeLenny> does it being on a flash drive
[5:52] <[Saint]> Ahhhhh - yes.
[5:52] <ItsMeLenny> would that cause any problems
[5:52] <ItsMeLenny> hmm
[5:52] <rikkib> then ls should something like this yes
[5:52] <[Saint]> Is the FS on the flash drive FAT, by any chance?
[5:52] <rikkib> oppps
[5:53] <[Saint]> No permissios there. That's why. :)
[5:53] <[Saint]> Derp.
[5:53] <[Saint]> that's one of the reasons why I wanted pwd, in case it made it obvious to me that this was an external drive.
[5:53] <ItsMeLenny> ah, i think it is fat
[5:54] <rikkib> move it to the sd card and then set X bit
[5:54] <ItsMeLenny> oh, i missed the pwd
[5:54] <[Saint]> Yeah, no permissions system in FAT.
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[5:54] <[Saint]> Well, there is...kinda.
[5:54] <ItsMeLenny> what if i change the flash drive to ext4
[5:54] <[Saint]> But, not really.
[5:54] <[Saint]> That'll work. I'd just dump it in /usr/bin, though, personally.
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[5:54] <rikkib> don't think falsh can handle etx4
[5:54] <[Saint]> Or, somewhere else in $PATH
[5:54] <[Saint]> rikkib: errr, what?
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[5:55] <[Saint]> It most certainly can.
[5:55] <ItsMeLenny> how do i get that original raspi bluescreen back up
[5:55] <rikkib> I only have two flash drives
[5:55] <rikkib> 1 little
[5:55] <rikkib> Give me no end of trouble
[5:56] <[Saint]> rikkib: well, for future reference, you can use any filesystem you like thereon.
[5:56] <rikkib> I have had to go back to oem formators
[5:57] <rikkib> to recover after trying to do things on them in linux
[5:57] <rikkib> but as you say probably my bad
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[5:58] <[Saint]> All my removable disks are formatted with a 1GB FAT32 partition, and the remainder in EXT4
[5:58] <rikkib> I tend to just toss in another hdd for backup
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[5:58] <[Saint]> I keep the first partition as FAT for braindead systems like Windows, should I encounter one.
[5:59] <rikkib> Ahhh that is probably the issue I was having
[5:59] <[Saint]> Windows won;t mount EXT* natively without some jiggery-pokery.
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[6:00] <[Saint]> Or, <your_choice_of_vastly_better_filesystem_than_FAT_or_NTFS>...really.
[6:00] <ItsMeLenny> havent touched windows for years 3+
[6:00] <[Saint]> I only have to on client systems.
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[6:01] <rikkib> My memory is foggy... I guess I should buy more flash drives and experiment
[6:01] <[Saint]> I used to remember how to get WIndows to talk to EXT* natively.
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[6:01] <[Saint]> But, I haven't had to care about this for years.
[6:02] <ItsMeLenny> ive had linux destroy NTFS partitions, then again, windows also destroys them
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[6:02] <[Saint]> Heh. :)
[6:02] <rikkib> I run win98 and xp for old artifact programs like autocad and xp for ham radio deluxe
[6:02] <[Saint]> I'm on a weird kludge of EXT4, BTRFS. and F2FS
[6:03] <ItsMeLenny> i changed my flashdrive to ext4, it seems to work now, just have to get a radio to see
[6:03] <rikkib> But been running Linux since the late 1990's (1997 maybe)
[6:03] <[Saint]> rikkib: maybe you wanna switch to WINE?
[6:03] <[Saint]> If the software was in any way even vaguely popular, it _should_ run satisfactorily in WINE
[6:04] <[Saint]> ItsMeLenny: I fairly recently discovered a raspi with a very good uptime which I had for gotten about.
[6:04] <rikkib> Been years since I tryed to run anything under wine
[6:05] <[Saint]> I squirreled it away running pifm, looping yakkety sax.
[6:05] <[Saint]> sweeping across the whole fm spectrum for NZ.
[6:05] <[Saint]> (I didn't like my old neighbors very much - nor their radio)
[6:05] <ItsMeLenny> lol
[6:05] <ItsMeLenny> this radio thing works!
[6:05] <ItsMeLenny> but the stereo example does not
[6:06] <rikkib> where is the radio inspector when you need them
[6:06] <ItsMeLenny> it goes left channel left channel right channel right channel, and its all mono
[6:06] <ItsMeLenny> pretty sure i'm allowed to broadcast up to 100m
[6:06] <[Saint]> yep.
[6:06] <[Saint]> its lawful use.
[6:06] <ItsMeLenny> maybe my receiver is a mono only device
[6:06] <ItsMeLenny> in australia
[6:06] <rikkib> replaced with very fancy remote technology... be careful!
[6:06] <[Saint]> NZ is very similar.
[6:06] <[Saint]> I checked my legal standings first.
[6:07] <[Saint]> neighbors had to suck it.
[6:07] <rikkib> they can now pick up the remote station and have it at the other end of the country in a day
[6:07] <[Saint]> I didn;t intend to forget about it and leave it running for aaaaaaages, though...heh.
[6:07] <ItsMeLenny> besides no one uses fm anymore :P
[6:08] <ItsMeLenny> [Saint], how long are we talking
[6:08] <rikkib> I can do it if I stick to the ham bands
[6:08] <[Saint]> just shy of 3 months.
[6:08] <ItsMeLenny> lol
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[6:09] <rikkib> bad saint
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[6:09] <[Saint]> Yeah - I will freely admit that it wasn't my proudest moment, and the duration was unintentional.
[6:09] <rikkib> the cat fell asleep on my mic
[6:10] * rikkib mumbles away... Silly old hams
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[6:11] <rikkib> I feel bad
[6:11] <rikkib> danm cold
[6:12] <[Saint]> Yeah, 'tis the season.
[6:12] <[Saint]> I'm feeling kinda sniffly and headachey myself.
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[6:12] <rikkib> been sitting here looking at a 13.8v regulator that I am making for two days
[6:13] <rikkib> and still a little child waits
[6:14] <rikkib> wonder what caps I should use
[6:15] <rikkib> power comes from a solar panel
[6:15] <[Saint]> http://www.pi-supply.com/product/shortcrust-perfect-base-raspberry-pi/
[6:15] <[Saint]> want!
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[6:15] * [Saint] fumbles to punch in the magic money numbers fast enough
[6:15] <[Saint]> its...beautiful.
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[6:17] <[Saint]> routing the power input like that.
[6:17] <[Saint]> so clean.
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[6:18] <rikkib> hmmm
[6:19] <[Saint]> pretty huh?
[6:19] <rikkib> still does not allow for extra electronics
[6:19] <[Saint]> I'm thinking of using them as my new range extenders.
[6:20] <rikkib> I will stick to my custom hand made ali cases
[6:20] <[Saint]> I want something that will look elegant in a home setting.
[6:20] <[Saint]> My current solution is a bit blocky.
[6:21] <rikkib> or these for cams http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-cambox1.jpg http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-cambox2.jpg
[6:23] <[Saint]> hmmm...its the slowest loading image in the world.
[6:23] <rikkib> black box behind the tv with one wire (the power chord from the plug pack) and two wireless dongles (net and kbd/ms)
[6:23] <[Saint]> I'm about halfway there.
[6:24] <[Saint]> ah, done.
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[6:26] * rikkib rummages in a shopping bag of tants
[6:26] <ItsMeLenny> i need a case for my raspi
[6:27] <rikkib> 6.8 25v man these letters a small
[6:27] <ItsMeLenny> i tell you now, that raspi fm radio is so fun
[6:27] <rikkib> more light
[6:30] <[Saint]> http://www.adafruit.com/images/1200x900/1610-02.jpg
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[6:30] <[Saint]> "help meeeeeeeeeeeeee"
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[6:34] <rikkib> 2 x 6.8uf 25v tant caps it is... now where do they go in the perf board
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[6:40] <[Saint]> rikkib: http://nwazet.com/camera-box
[6:41] <[Saint]> thought you might be interested.
[6:41] <rikkib> that looks more like it
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[6:42] <[Saint]> $18...nice.
[6:42] <rikkib> put in a glass front box and you have an out door cam
[6:42] * [Saint] nods
[6:43] <rikkib> Where has it got to come from
[6:45] <rikkib> aussie closest
[6:46] <ItsMeLenny> still have to purchase me a raspi camera
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[6:47] <rikkib> I have one of each kind
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[6:49] <rikkib> hope 100 ohm with 500 ohm variable will bring a 7812 up to 13.7 ish
[6:50] <rikkib> Ok iron tip meet vero board...
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[6:56] <rikkib> That was a bit of a hit and miss affair. Very shaky hands.
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[7:11] <rikkib> Time to test
[7:16] <rikkib> Hmmm not enough solars outside and man made solars only just gets up to 12 voltars
[7:17] <ItsMeLenny> youd be better off generating power on a pushbike
[7:18] <ItsMeLenny> is there any kind of device, that is like headers like on a raspi or arduino, that just plugs into usb, so it's like headers on any computer
[7:18] <ItsMeLenny> and can just program the headers from the computer and control stuffy stuff
[7:20] <Vostok> ItsMeLenny: pymcu
[7:21] <ItsMeLenny> Vostok, is that designed to operate without a computer though?
[7:22] <ItsMeLenny> oh doesnt look like it
[7:22] <ItsMeLenny> might have to get me one dem dose
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[7:23] <Vostok> no
[7:24] <MrMills> there is the android hdmi sticks not usb though
[7:25] <MrMills> good luck with booing and what not on that though.
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[7:52] <whiskers75> holy cram
[7:52] <whiskers75> p*
[7:52] <whiskers75> crawl for android :D
[7:53] <whiskers75> oh, wrong chan
[7:55] <[Saint]> whiskers75: bit late to the party there boss. ;)
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[7:59] * [Saint] assumes whiskers75 means:
[7:59] <[Saint]> http://sourceforge.net/projects/crawl-ref/files/Stone%20Soup/0.12.1/
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[8:00] <ItsMeLenny> how do i bring up the raspberry pi blue configuration screen
[8:00] <wooter> raspi-config
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[8:02] <ItsMeLenny> thanks
[8:02] <whiskers75> [Saint]: yeah
[8:02] <whiskers75> [Saint]: actually, I'm compiling Crawl 0.14 for RPi
[8:02] <[Saint]> ah.
[8:03] <whiskers75> just found the 0.13 android port on the download page
[8:04] <[Saint]> seems like android port stopped at 0.13.1
[8:04] <[Saint]> at least, in a downloadable state, from sourceforge
[8:06] <[Saint]> awww - the signing key changed.
[8:06] <[Saint]> I can't trivially update.
[8:09] <whiskers75> [Saint]: I hate how the raspberry pi has a tendency to just freeze
[8:09] <whiskers75> and isn't pingable or accessible through SSH
[8:11] <winlu> praise the tvservice binary
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[8:12] <ochiottes> good morning all
[8:13] <winlu> whiskers75: did you check if your power source is good enough? i only have freezes when using derpy power supply and overclocking and a usb wlan dongle :/
[8:13] <winlu> ochiottes: ahoy
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[8:15] <whiskers75> winlu: I'm overclocking (Turbo)
[8:15] <whiskers75> I don't have a multimeter or anything, so can't check if the power supply's derpy
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[8:16] <winlu> ah ok, i stopped overclocking a long time ago
[8:16] <wooter> my raspberry pi's will get several months uptime no problem
[8:17] <wooter> usually a power outage or major update is only reason they get reset
[8:17] <ochiottes> i tried to set up an ntp server but i'm facing difficulties. netstat shows that ntp does not listen on port 123, even though it doesn't throw an error when i start the ntp service. i also found there are no files created in /var/log/ntpstats and /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift don't exist either. i tried reinstalling ntp and reconfiguring to no avail
[8:17] <winlu> but overclocking without a multimeter there is a bit of guessing and trying included
[8:17] <ochiottes> is there a known issue with ntp ?
[8:18] <whiskers75> winlu: I should probably decrease my overclock
[8:18] <wooter> ochiottes: sure its not listening on a udp port
[8:19] <whiskers75> there, it's on Modest
[8:19] <whiskers75> no more crashes, hopefully!
[8:19] <winlu> overclocking the rpi is meh anyway, there are better boards if you want more cpu power in the same price range ;)
[8:20] <whiskers75> also, reduced GPU mem
[8:20] <wooter> ochiottes: try netstat -una
[8:20] <whiskers75> winlu: my pi is quite busy
[8:21] <whiskers75> web server, dns server, mail server, imap server, irc client, random compiling, piglow...
[8:21] <ochiottes> wooter: woot! of course it's udp :( thanks. i got it. something still doesn't feel right. when i run ntpq -p it shows no delay, all fields are 0's
[8:21] <winlu> whiskers75: even more reason to prioritise stability if you run it as a server
[8:21] <ochiottes> tcpdump also shows no incoming ntp traffic
[8:22] <whiskers75> winlu: at about what load average can you expect things to start crashing?
[8:22] <whiskers75> winlu: oh, and it's also the ipv6 router for my network
[8:22] <ochiottes> and why are those stat and drift files missing?
[8:22] <wooter> ochiottes: No idea about the rest sorry, never had a need for local ntp myself
[8:23] <ochiottes> wooter: thanks anyway
[8:23] <winlu> not necessary load avarage that makes problems, more power spikes that the power source can't deliver
[8:23] <whiskers75> winlu: oh yeah
[8:23] <whiskers75> winlu: valuable lesson: DON'T set all the lights on a PiGlow to 255
[8:23] <whiskers75> it draws too much power
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[8:30] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[8:30] * gordonDrogon sets all the lights to 100% on a piglow ...
[8:30] <gordonDrogon> ow. my eyes ...
[8:31] <winlu> bit early to disco
[8:31] <gordonDrogon> yea!
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[8:33] <wooter> I have can have 32 LED's on running off 2 gpio expanders no problem
[8:33] <wooter> they all have a 1k resistor though
[8:33] <gordonDrogon> using the Pi's 5v or a separate 5v supply for it?
[8:34] <wooter> just the raspberry pi supply
[8:35] <gordonDrogon> you've only got about 200mA spare on the 5v supply out of a Pi - that's shared with the USB ports too.
[8:36] <wooter> generally all the lights are not on, but I can turn them on no prob
[8:37] <gordonDrogon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5cSvVGCX_A <-- 128 LEDs
[8:37] <gordonDrogon> slightly cheating as I'm only lighting 8 at once :)
[8:38] <wooter> yeah thats what i'm running 2xmcp23017, but im using full size 5mm LED's
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[8:39] <wooter> oh, it also has a bmp180 chip on the same raspberry pi
[8:39] <wooter> using the 5 volts
[8:40] <wooter> pushing the limits by the sounds of it
[8:40] <wooter> 2 raspberry pi's running off a 5v 2A adaptor
[8:41] <gordonDrogon> You could use an external 5v supply to power the peripherals and back-feed power into the Pi via the GPIO pins.
[8:43] <wooter> i'm not sure if using a external support on a mcp23017 would feed back power
[8:43] <wooter> not a bad idea though
[8:44] <gordonDrogon> it depends on how its wired up - you just need to make sure your 5v supply feeds into the Pi's 5v gpio pins.
[8:44] <gordonDrogon> that are arguments for/against using/bypassing the on-board polyfuse though.
[8:44] <gordonDrogon> I'm not that fussed about it myself, but some people are.
[8:48] <whiskers75> Will it take longer to build a toolchain, or to build on the pi itself? ;D
[8:48] <SirLagz> whiskers75: depends on if you're building one thing or many things
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[8:50] <whiskers75> SirLagz: it'll be better in the long term
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[8:50] <SirLagz> whiskers75: if you're compiling many things then yeah building a toolchain will be better
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[8:51] <gordonDrogon> I setup some cross compiling thing in the very early days - I used it once to make a kernel, then abandoned it.
[8:51] <whiskers75> I'm using crosstool-ng
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[8:54] <whiskers75> ew, it failed
[8:55] <whiskers75> oh, lemme just clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools
[8:55] <SirLagz> I just build stuff on the Pi when I need to
[8:55] <SirLagz> Easier lol
[8:56] <whiskers75> SirLagz: yeah, but takes aaaaaaaages
[8:56] <gordonDrogon> I guess it depends on how big it is - my biggest Pi project is getting on for 30K lines of C and takes 3 minutes if I built it from scratch.
[8:56] <SirLagz> true, saves me time mucking around though
[8:56] <whiskers75> well, I'm just building other packages like crawl for the pi
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[8:57] <whiskers75> because repo versions are outdated
[8:57] <whiskers75> I'll make a repo myself to put them in someday
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[8:59] <fogrider> question... when using a NPN attach to a GPIO, is there a limit on amount of voltage/current that I can pass thru the NPN?
[8:59] <gordonDrogon> fogrider, yes - but you'll need to read the data sheet to find that limit.
[9:00] <fogrider> is the limit related to the raspberry pi? or to the NPN itself?
[9:00] <gordonDrogon> fogrider, some transistors have limits in the low 10's of mA, some in the high 100's of amps..
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[9:00] <gordonDrogon> fogrider, the transistor - plus the capacity of the power supply.
[9:02] <gordonDrogon> what are you trying to schieve?
[9:02] <gordonDrogon> *achieve?
[9:05] <fogrider> two things, (1) I have a relay module that relays are active when low (0) volts instead of high, so wanting to use NPN to reverse that.... (2) power a group of LEDs using 1 GPIO, using external power supply to power of the LEDs...
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[9:07] <gordonDrogon> fogrider, well for the first thing - it's utterly trivial to change a 0 into a 1 in a program, so why bother with extra hardware? For the 2nd you need to work out the total current draw and get a transistor to match.
[9:07] <whiskers75> hm, the tools seem to work
[9:09] <winlu> whiskers75: distcc setup is trivial :)
[9:09] <fogrider> thanks gordonDrogon, I understand there's ways to accomplish this with simple code. but I am working on a few small projects just as skill builder.
[9:10] <gordonDrogon> fogrider, ok.
[9:11] <gordonDrogon> fogrider, it might be easier to use a uln2803 to do the inversion - it has 8 transistors in it - you just need 8 resistors and off you go.
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[9:12] <gordonDrogon> for the LEDs you still need to work out how much current they'll all take to work out the correct transsitor.
[9:12] <gordonDrogon> or just be lazy and use a logic-level power mosfet.
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[9:16] <fogrider> awesome, the uln2803 seems to be exactly what i was looking!
[9:17] <gordonDrogon> just be aware that the maximum current through it is 500mA
[9:18] <fogrider> yes thank you.
[9:18] <gordonDrogon> it can actually drive relays directly itself - no need for fancy inverted relay boards from dodgy suppliers designed for arduinos not Pi's...
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[9:18] <gordonDrogon> breakfast time - back later
[9:18] <fogrider> ok thanks gordonDrogon
[9:26] <wooter> you got some impressive videos there gordonDrogon
[9:27] <wooter> will bookmark and come back to some of them
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[9:28] <whiskers75> with crosscompiling:
[9:28] <whiskers75> libunix.cc:24:18: fatal error: term.h: No such file or directory
[9:28] <whiskers75> :<
[9:29] <wooter> whiskers75: you sometimes need to edit the compiling config files with relevant paths
[9:31] <whiskers75> no, I just don't have term.h
[9:32] <wooter> haha
[9:32] <whiskers75> wooter: where is that on a pi?
[9:33] <whiskers75> https://github.com/volumio/RootFS-RaspberryPI/blob/master/usr/include/term.h
[9:33] <whiskers75> oh
[9:33] <whiskers75> yay
[9:33] <whiskers75> oh
[9:33] <whiskers75> I need ncurses
[9:33] <winlu> that has nothing to do with the pi
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[9:34] <winlu> you will also need zlib
[9:35] <whiskers75> how do I copy that over?
[9:35] <wooter> libncurses-dev
[9:35] <wooter> on the compiling machine
[9:35] <winlu> what he said
[9:36] <whiskers75> but I'm crosscompiling
[9:36] <whiskers75> also: libncurses5-dev is already the newest version.
[9:37] <whiskers75> how do I make it also use /usr/include
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[9:38] <whiskers75> ah
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[10:24] <gordonDrogon> wooter, thanks.
[10:24] <icecube45> hey
[10:24] <icecube45> whatsup
[10:24] <icecube45> oops
[10:24] <icecube45> wrong channel
[10:24] <icecube45> test message, please ignore
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[10:29] * [Saint] upvotes icecube45
[10:29] <icecube45> Haha
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[10:38] <[Saint]> icecube45: was that a reference to the, now legendary, "test post, please don't upvote"?
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[10:38] <[Saint]> Or do I get too much Internet and too little Outside? :)
[10:39] <icecube45> it was
[10:39] <icecube45> good job
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[10:41] <rikkib> tomuchnotenough
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[10:43] <rikkib> tomuchnotenough.co.nz. 14367 IN A 121.79.217.58
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[11:18] <whiskers75> When cross-compiling, where do I put things like libncurses.so from the pi?
[11:18] <whiskers75> /home/whiskers75/rpitools/arm-bcm2708/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-raspbian/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.8.3/../../../../arm-linux-gnueabihf/bin/ld.gold: error: cannot find -lncursesw
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[11:23] <whiskers75> WOO
[11:23] <whiskers75> I DID IT
[11:23] <gordonDrogon> well done (I guess :)
[11:23] <ShorTie> Cool
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[11:44] <rikkib> Clever man
[11:45] <rikkib> Bed time in the land of the long white cloud.
[11:46] <whiskers75> gordonDrogon: oh no
[11:46] <whiskers75> I didn't set DATADIR
[11:46] <whiskers75> :<
[11:46] <whiskers75> I have to recompile it all!
[11:47] <ShorTie> what cha compiling that needs cross compiling if i can ask ??
[11:47] <whiskers75> ShorTie: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup
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[11:47] <gordonDrogon> sounds like something out of the Clangers.
[11:48] <gordonDrogon> good grief: a rogue-like game. thought they'd all but died.
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> so why not simply: sudo apt-get install crawl
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> ?
[11:50] <ShorTie> oh thats to easy, lol.
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[11:57] <whiskers75> gordonDrogon: because that's 0.10
[11:57] <ThKo> Hi, is it right that the command „make“ takes a long time for „making“ node js on rpi?
[11:57] <whiskers75> I need 0.14
[11:57] <whiskers75> ThKo: oh, you want node.js? yes, it does take ages. I could give you a Debian package if you'd like that has everything precompileed
[11:58] <ThKo> whiskers75: Ah ok, thank you but no problem. I’ve got time ;-) I hope it’s ready in a hour ;-)
[11:58] <whiskers75> ThKo: it'll be ready by then, no worries
[11:59] <ThKo> whiskers75: Very good, thank you :)
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[12:23] <gordonDrogon> whiskers75, ah, ok then - get compiling :)
[12:23] <whiskers75> gordonDrogon: it's done
[12:23] <whiskers75> https://whiskers75.co.uk/debs/
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[12:24] <gordonDrogon> might not have taken that long on a Pi either then..
[12:24] <whiskers75> gordonDrogon: no, it did
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[13:58] <ThKo> whiskers75: Also compiling :( :( :(
[14:00] <ThKo> At the moment: /home/pi/node-v0.10.29/out/Release/obj.host/v8_base/deps/v8/src/liveedit.o ../deps/v8/src/liveedit.cc
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[14:34] <ThKo> Is it possible to pause a make command?!
[14:34] <ThKo> Under Raspbian
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[14:36] <tig|> scroll lock?
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[14:38] <ThKo> tig|: Sorry, I don’t understand. I can scroll but cannot execute commands.
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> You can pause programs most of the time with Ctrl-Z
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> then use the 'fg' command to resume them.
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> Ctrl-S will stop output and pause program execution, but only if it's trying to print something.
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> Cancel Ctrl-S with Ctrl-Q
[14:41] <ThKo> Ah ok…My aim is to stop compiling because I’ve to drive home and take my rpi with me and to start it there again (because of no electricity :D). Possible?
[14:43] <pksato> crtl+c and do make again at home.
[14:46] <pksato> but, make start from begin.
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[14:48] <pksato> flowing Makefile. if make find a early processed file, skip it.
[14:48] <t00tie> hi, what's a reasonable price for a rpi model B? I was given one brand new (no psu, no SDcard) as part of compensation for something else but don't need it
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[14:52] <takkie> t00tie: RPi 512M sells here (netherlands) for around 30 Euro, most of the time with a 8GB card.
[14:52] <ThKo> t00tie: A few days ago I’ve bought a pi model B for 33 Euro (45 Dollar)
[14:52] <t00tie> takkie: here they cost £30+ new but shipping is half that again. Norway but rs prices them in £s
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[14:54] <t00tie> are there clones or is there "only one" model B? This was sent from china but says made in UK - but I've been lied to by the chinese before,, silk screen is easier to fake than the electronics they already fake
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> t00tie, what colour is the pcb?
[14:57] <t00tie> green
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> it's not inconcevable that there is a chinese plant making them, but how they get hold of the SoC would be the intersting part. (There is one Chinese factory making Pi's - Egoman - and they make them with a made in china label and the pcb is red)
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> t00tie, just boot it up an see what happens.
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[14:58] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/redPi.jpg
[14:59] <t00tie> I don't have an sdcard or psu so I can't boot it
[14:59] <t00tie> well, I have a billion psus but most are atx and don't have the connector - whatever it is
[14:59] <ThKo> But green is an original one?!
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[14:59] <ThKo> Ok good ;)
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> all the current ones are green.
[15:00] <tig|> t00tie: it is just a micro usb socket, like on most phones
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> and made in wales.
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> the green ones were made in china originally.
[15:00] <ThKo> On my pi stands „made in the UK"
[15:00] <ThKo> Bought from amazon
[15:01] <t00tie> https://www.dropbox.com/s/t42quoot9xaxdob/rpi%20001.JPG just took a pic
[15:01] <ThKo> My one looks identic
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> Looks like a Pi to me - From RS.
[15:02] <t00tie> yeah, it says RS all over the box
[15:02] <gordonDrogon> People like DX and alibaba sell Pi's - I wonder if they export them to china then re-ship them from there,,,
[15:02] <ThKo> Ok
[15:02] <t00tie> I've just been conned by chinese before so I'm wary
[15:02] <t00tie> and I bet it should really read "assembled in UK" - good odds the parts are almost all chinese
[15:03] <gordonDrogon> http://www.dx.com/p/raspberry-pi-project-board-green-267945
[15:03] <gordonDrogon> t00tie, it all depends on Sony - who make them in the UK.
[15:03] <gordonDrogon> but a great deal may well come in from abroad.
[15:03] <gordonDrogon> (of components that is)
[15:04] <ThKo> COmpiling Compiling Compilin…arrrghhh :D
[15:04] <gordonDrogon> patience... when compiling on a Pi :)
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[15:06] <ThKo> Yes, start compiling node js I think 2 to 3 hours before...
[15:06] <ThKo> Thank god, no world cup today ;D
[15:07] <Encrypt> :þ
[15:07] <ThKo> otherwise I would be nervous now :D
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[15:14] <ThKo> Ready, yeah… touch /home/pi/node-v0.10.29/out/Release/obj.target/specialize_node_d.stamp make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pi/node-v0.10.29/out' In -fs out/Release/node node
[15:14] <ThKo> Will sudo make install take so long time, too?
[15:17] <gordonDrogon> usually no.
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[15:17] <gordonDrogon> as it's mainly copying files for most projects.
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[15:19] <ThKo> Ok
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[15:22] <ThKo> Yeah running, great ;)+
[15:22] <ThKo> Now installing Cordova...
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[15:46] <Aias> hi. i'm currently using a PC with an i5 haswell cpu, 8gb fancy ram and 120gb SSD as a database/webserver (php webapp with mysql backend). but i wondered, would the raspberry pi do the job? is anybody here can recommend or discourage the use of an rpi as httpd(apache)/database(mysql) server ?
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[15:47] <IT_Sean> That tells us nothing.
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[15:47] <IT_Sean> The raspi does not compare to an i5 with 8 gigs of ram
[15:47] <IT_Sean> What, exactly, are you looking to do with it?
[15:47] <ryanteck> A raspberry pi can run a Apache & MySql server (And PHP)
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> but nowhere near as efficiently as your i5 box ...
[15:48] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[15:48] <ryanteck> It depends on the request
[15:48] <ryanteck> If your the only one then it would be fine
[15:49] <ryanteck> If your using it on the public with tons of requests then no. The i5 would be quicker.
[15:49] <IT_Sean> What you just asked, basically, is: "hey! I currenty drive a Ferrari F430. But, would a Ford Focus diesel work for me?" Well... it would! If you are only using the F430 to go down the street to the shops and back.
[15:49] <ryanteck> ^^
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[15:50] <Armand> You'd be better off with a dedicated MySQL server.
[15:51] <ryanteck> and using NGINX with PHP5-FPM or other alternative
[15:52] <ryanteck> Apache is inefficient compared to newer & more optimised web servers.
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[15:53] <rymate1234> Aias: in short: it depends on the usage
[15:57] <Aias> thanks guys :)
[15:57] <Aias> yes, that was my question. basically there are very few changes made to a small database by only a handful of users daily
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[15:57] <Aias> and my i5 setup maybe overkill
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[15:58] <IT_Sean> If it's just a small number of changes by a user or two, to a small db, you should be able to get away with a raspi.
[16:00] <Aias> i just tried cloning SDs last night with dd. works a treat! and will make for easy complete server backups
[16:00] <Aias> it's decided then, i'll see how the rpi does in the position :)
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[16:01] <Aias> rymate1234: unfortunately apache (or, httpd) is all i know
[16:01] <Aias> nginx seems to be everywhere now
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[16:07] <gordonDrogon> dd isn't a good way to backup a live MySQL (ot any sql) type database.
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> you'll get away with it most of the time, but the one time you really do need to restore, it might not go well.
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[16:11] <ryanteck> o.o
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[18:06] <niko1990> Hello everyone =)
[18:08] <gordonDrogon> afternoon.
[18:09] <niko1990> I just installed with the raspbian-ua-netinst installer raspbian on my Raspberry Pi. I did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. Installed raspi-config & enabled the Cam. But when i try to use raspistill i always get the error "command not found". Do i need to install something else? The last time i was playing around with the cam it was working right away...
[18:10] <gordonDrogon> try: sudo apt-get install libraspberrypi-bin
[18:11] <gordonDrogon> I suspect the last time you use the stock Raspbian which has all the Raspberry Pi packages bundled.
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[18:35] <niko1990> gordonDrogon: Thank you very much - It worked with the libraspberrypi-bin =)
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[18:45] <IT_Sean> What is it with you and crappy bagels, dude!?
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> niko1990, glad you're going now.
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[19:28] <yggdrasil> good day gents.
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[19:31] <br34l> g'day
[19:31] <IT_Sean> 'ello!
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[21:09] <ThKo> Hi guys, does someone have a hint for me where I can find Eclipse SWT for ARMv6? Meanwhile I’m desperate
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[21:10] <sh4rm4> are there some official cross-compiler downloads ?
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[21:20] <ThKo> sh4rm4: Do you mean me?
[21:23] <sh4rm4> ThKo, are you a cross-compiler download ?
[21:23] <ThKo> ? Don’t know
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[21:36] <geordie> ThKo: note that sh4rm4 joined the channel after you asked your question :)
[21:36] <ThKo> Ah ok ;D I was confused
[21:37] <geordie> yeah at first glance it did appear that he was responding to you...
[21:37] <sh4rm4> what did ThKo ask?
[21:37] <ThKo> sh4rm4: Hi guys, does someone have a hint for me where I can find Eclipse SWT for ARMv6? Meanwhile I’m desperate <- this ;)
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[21:39] <pksato> on irc, not always events have a same time order.
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[21:40] <UukGoblin> hi :-)
[21:40] <UukGoblin> does using a camera module restrict me in the choice of GPIOs for other things?
[21:40] <UukGoblin> in particular, can I use GPIO 4 and 17 as inputs safely while recording a video?
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[21:41] <shiftplusone> Whatever pins might be used for, you can disable that and use it for your own needs (usually)
[21:43] <pksato> UukGoblin: you try and no work?
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[21:45] <gordonDrogon> UukGoblin, those pins are on the main gpio connector and not used by the camera.
[21:46] <UukGoblin> thanks
[21:46] <UukGoblin> I'm using them and they seem to work, however I do get weird inputs from the PIR motion detector that I'm not expecting
[21:47] <UukGoblin> i.e. false positives
[21:47] <UukGoblin> so I'm trying to determine whether something's buggy or is it mice or what
[21:47] <sh4rm4> are you guys all building your cross compilers from source ?
[21:47] <UukGoblin> (other raspi with no camera works fine)
[21:48] <shiftplusone> sh4rm4, no, I either install the cross-compiler provided by the OS, download the 'official' one from github, download some other one, or as a last resort, compile my own.
[21:48] <sh4rm4> the official one is from the utils repo ?
[21:48] <shiftplusone> tools
[21:49] <sh4rm4> i.e. either a year old non-hardfloat one or a 2 months old hardfloat one ?
[21:49] <sh4rm4> s/a year/2 years/
[21:50] <shiftplusone> aye
[21:50] <shiftplusone> though I was sure the 2 year old one is hardfloat
[21:50] <pksato> UukGoblin: what kind of pir detector?
[21:50] <shiftplusone> certianly claims to be
[21:51] <sh4rm4> shiftplusone, i meant https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/tree/master/arm-bcm2708/arm-bcm2708-linux-gnueabi
[21:51] <sh4rm4> at least the filenames indicate no hf
[21:51] <sh4rm4> shiftplusone, so if you go for "some other one", which one would that be ?
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[21:52] <shiftplusone> there's a hardfloat one too. I don't have my work laptop with me to check which one I actually use.
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[21:52] <sh4rm4> ah, because i need a non-hardfloat toolchain
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[21:52] <ThKo> Hey, I’ve downloaded the SWT source for Linux X86. Now I want to compile it for ARMv6…I’ve unzipped it into a folder…But how can I compile it for ARMv6 now?
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[21:53] <shiftplusone> Whatever strikes my fancy at the time. I don't think the choice of compiler matters, unless you run into specific issues resolved by using a different one or you are releasing something and want to use the same compiler for compatability.
[21:53] <sh4rm4> if SWT == ECLIPSE ? if so its probably java and thus platform-independent (at least in theory)
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[21:53] <gordonDrogon> sh4rm4, I compile on the Pi..
[21:54] <shiftplusone> ugh
[21:54] <sh4rm4> gordonDrogon, kinda slow for big packages
[21:54] <sh4rm4> plus needs a ton of swap for bloated C++ stuff
[21:54] <shiftplusone> ugh again
[21:55] <sh4rm4> compiling thunderbird from source takes already 2.5 days on my arm cortex a8 800mhz (and then fails to link with less than 2 GB RAM)
[21:55] <shiftplusone> sh4rm4, oh, I have something you might find very useful.... let me see if I can dig it up
[21:57] <shiftplusone> damn, google is failing me
[21:57] <sh4rm4> dumm-dee-dumm... downloading 97MB codesourcery toolchain with 30 KB/s... yay
[21:57] <sh4rm4> someone should tell them about xz
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[22:00] <shiftplusone> aha!
[22:00] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/bmanojlovic/rpi-cross-compile
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[22:01] <shiftplusone> sh4rm4, this sets up a chroot environment using qemu-user and installs a native cross-compiler in there. So it's like building on a pi, but as fast as compiling natively
[22:01] <shiftplusone> there are some dirty hacks to make it work, but it works MUCH better than anything else I have come across for large projects
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[22:03] <sh4rm4> a "native crosscompiler" ?
[22:03] <sh4rm4> you mean a native compiler run under qemu ?
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[22:03] <dragonlance> anyone her know if raspbmc iroom s non american not getting a repy i think all asleep
[22:04] <sh4rm4> if so, it's at least 10x slower than a crosscompiler
[22:04] <shiftplusone> sh4rm4, native to the host
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[22:04] <shiftplusone> so.... a cross-compiler. Some people think using a proper arm-native compiler inside qemu means cross-compiling, so excuse the clumsy language.
[22:05] <UukGoblin> pksato, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Portable-Mini-Infrared-PIR-Motion-Human-Sensor-Detector-Module-27x12mm-5V-9V-/141184021281
[22:05] <UukGoblin> pksato, one like that
[22:05] <UukGoblin> cheap chinese module
[22:05] <dragonlance> oops anyone here know if the room raspbmc is european no getting an answer i think they are all asleep
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[22:07] <dragonlance> pretty quiet in here too
[22:08] <shiftplusone> well there's just no pleasing you >=/
[22:08] <dragonlance> ah there is life
[22:09] <dragonlance> do you have any info on raspbmc
[22:10] <shiftplusone> what about it?
[22:10] <dragonlance> need to know why i lose wifi after update
[22:10] <shiftplusone> define 'lose wifi'
[22:11] <dragonlance> lose the ability to acces my usb wifi device it works prior to update
[22:11] <pksato> UukGoblin: sensor power come from RPi? camera module need more power.
[22:11] <shiftplusone> dragonlance, does wlan0 show up in ifconfig -a ?
[22:12] <dragonlance> not after update
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[22:12] <shiftplusone> what's the line for the device in lsusb?
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[22:14] <dragonlance> not got that info it works correctly until it upgrades itself then it cant even find that there is a wifi stick inserted
[22:14] <shiftplusone> then it has nothing to do with the upgrade
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[22:14] <shiftplusone> usb devices should show up in lsusb regardless, unless something terribly wrong
[22:14] <dragonlance> dont understand
[22:15] <dragonlance> yeah i thought so too
[22:15] <shiftplusone> can you unplug it, plug it back in and then pastebin the output of dmesg?
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[22:15] <shiftplusone> (I understand it might be fiddly without wifi)
[22:16] <dragonlance> but raspbmc automaticaaly finds wifi device could it be that the wifi software for rpi is at fault not showing up in list
[22:17] <dragonlance> thats what reeboot is for
[22:17] <shiftplusone> nope, for lsusb to show a device, it just need to enumerate
[22:17] <dragonlance> please explain i thought it was automatic like prior to update
[22:18] <shiftplusone> sounds like windows-speak anyway.... what update are you talking about? apt-get upgrade?
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[22:19] <dragonlance> no its a standalone xbmc it automatically updates itself for whatever reason and then i lose my wifi
[22:20] <shiftplusone> fun
[22:20] <dragonlance> was until it updated
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[22:20] <shiftplusone> can't really say anything about the situation with a full dmesg log, unfortunately.
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[22:21] <UukGoblin> pksato, the sensor power is 5V, however the output is 3.3V surprisingly (I tested with a multimeter)
[22:21] <UukGoblin> pksato, so yes, the sensor power comes from the 5V on the Pi's GPIO
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[22:21] <dragonlance> thought it was official rpi os expect it to work without problems on rpi
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[22:22] <shiftplusone> raspbian is as official as it gets, not raspbmc
[22:23] <shiftplusone> but if you expect things to work without problems, you're going to have a bad time. There are all sorts of issues that may pop up.
[22:24] <dragonlance> thanks for help anyway think ill switch to openelec version of xbmc . thoight was official because its on there own page as os to use like risc and raspbian
[22:24] <pksato> UukGoblin: my be, need to use debouncing to avoid false trigger.
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[22:25] <shiftplusone> dragonlance, good luck. OpenELEC gets much more attention from the devs, so you should be good. Unless the problem is caused by a bad power supply or lack of powered hub.
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[22:26] <dragonlance> got hub but not useing plugged wifi straight into rpi
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[22:27] <dragonlance> thanks again see if i can hack it back to life
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[22:28] <Birkelund> Hi everybody
[22:28] <mhoney> hi Birkelund
[22:28] <Birkelund> I've installed raspian on a 4 GB sd card, and only installed motion. Now i am running out of space.
[22:29] <Birkelund> Can that really be true?
[22:29] <shiftplusone> get rid of mathematica and java
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[22:29] <shiftplusone> and don't forget to expand the rootfs
[22:29] <Birkelund> I can see that /usr is responsible for 1,4 gb.. Have i done something wrong
[22:29] <shiftplusone> what does df -h say?
[22:29] <shiftplusone> on /
[22:29] <Birkelund> I have expanded the rootfs.
[22:30] <Birkelund> 100% and 3,9 gb
[22:30] <Birkelund> (used)
[22:30] <shiftplusone> hm
[22:30] <shiftplusone> that unfortunate
[22:30] <Birkelund> But what i think is weird is the size of /usr
[22:30] <shiftplusone> why?
[22:30] <Birkelund> 1,4 gb. What should lie in that when i havent installed or done anything else than installing motion and running that for a couple of days
[22:30] <shiftplusone> apt-get remove wolfram-engine would be a good start (will free up half a gig for free)
[22:31] <shiftplusone> sure, that's the pre-installed crapware
[22:31] <shiftplusone> alternatively, https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[22:31] <Birkelund> will remove wolfram-engine. I guess that is not important. Anything else i can remove
[22:32] <shiftplusone> plenty, but it's usually better to start with a minimal system and build up rather than strip down something huge
[22:33] <Birkelund> but i dint realize raspiab was that huge. I think i have read that 2 gb should be able to install raspian, and 4 gb shouldnt be a problem for sure
[22:33] <shiftplusone> raspbian itself isn't huge, it's just the foundation's image of it which has a lot bundled in.
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[22:34] <Birkelund> ohh okay. I will try to remove wolfram-engine and then see.. I am not planning on installing anything else, since it should only be used for running motion.
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[22:35] <Birkelund> Thank you shiftplusone
[22:35] <shiftplusone> np
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[22:41] <l_r> Birkelund, what are the performances of motion on the rpi?
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