#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-07-05

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[0:00] <Dev007> It says device is busy when I try to umount /dev/root
[0:00] <shiftplusone> umount? why are you umounting anything?
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[0:00] <Dev007> Thats what it says to do?
[0:01] <shiftplusone> scroll down
[0:01] <shiftplusone> http://elinux.org/RPi_Resize_Flash_Partitions#Manually_resizing_the_SD_card_on_Raspberry_Pi
[0:01] <Dev007> nvmnd now I see the pi section
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[0:01] <shiftplusone> you'll have to apply logic... since you probably don't have a swap partition
[0:02] <Dev007> Lol I don't know how to do this
[0:02] <shiftplusone> use those instructions as a reference, not as something to copy blindly.
[0:02] <Dev007> Can you try to walk me through it for a minute
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[0:03] <Dev007> I have an image that I made on my computer of my sd card it there an easier way to do it using that?
[0:03] <shiftplusone> nope, that's harder
[0:04] <Dev007> Can you walk me through it>
[0:04] <Dev007> Please
[0:04] <shiftplusone> I don't see what you see
[0:04] <shiftplusone> I could ssh in, but that's silly
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[0:05] <ShorTie> p,d,2,n,enter,enter,enter,enter,w, reboot, resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2
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[0:05] <shiftplusone> is that the konami code?
[0:05] <shiftplusone> (but yeah, what he said_
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[0:09] <Dev007> I'm soory I just cant get fdisk to work
[0:09] <Dev007> can you help me with a join.me
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[0:09] <ShorTie> sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 doesn't work ??
[0:10] <Mike08e7> Anyone have a walk through on setting up a flashcard w/ Raspbian using only a linux box?
[0:10] <Dev007> ShortTie yep that worked
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[0:12] <Dev007> ok so after reboot I just do resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2
[0:12] <ShorTie> just download the raspbian image and then dd it to the sdcard is the basics
[0:12] <ShorTie> might need a sudo in front of it, but ya
[0:13] <Dev007> Dude it worked thanks so much!
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[0:13] <Dev007> You should do a tutorial on that
[0:13] <ShorTie> No Problem
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[0:14] <ShorTie> na, to many out there already
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[0:14] <ShorTie> or just make your own with gooood notes
[0:15] <Dev007> So I spent so much time installing a webserver and other addons to my pi, If I were to install that other image from github is there an easy way to get the same exact setup that I have now?
[0:15] <Dev007> Or do I have to redo everything
[0:16] <ShorTie> just save/backup an files you saved
[0:16] <Dev007> So I do have to reinstall everything
[0:16] <ShorTie> but there is a lot of work to get that net-instate up to snuff
[0:17] <ShorTie> net-install*
[0:17] <Dev007> Is it worth doing that or is the working image that I have just fine
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[0:18] <ShorTie> oh that is your decision, i would have just gone with the standard raspbian image
[0:18] <Dev007> Ya but can I then remove the gui
[0:18] <ShorTie> it has all the special sauce for the pi built in
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[0:20] <ShorTie> just having it on your sdcard isn't gonna cause no problems
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[0:21] <Mike08e7> Raspbian Debian Wheezy is the regular OS ?
[0:21] <Dev007> Ok ShortTie you sold me, now just another few hours of setup again, LOL
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[0:22] <Dev007> This image is so bare that I had to install sudo
[0:22] <Dev007> and add the pi user
[0:22] <Dev007> But it was a good learning experience
[0:23] <ShorTie> preaty much yes Mike08e7
[0:23] <shiftplusone> Well.... There is no 'raspbian debian' it's one or the other.
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[0:24] <Mike08e7> hmm
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[0:24] <tig|> to clarify raspbian is based on debian but the two are different. basically raspbian is debian but tweaked for the pi and contains a few bits that are not part of normal debian but are specific to the pi
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[0:24] <Mike08e7> http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ lists "RASPBIAN Debian Wheezy" in a way that makes they look like 1 thing
[0:25] <shiftplusone> argh
[0:25] <Mike08e7> ?
[0:25] <Dev007> what is the command to shutdown
[0:26] <shiftplusone> nothing, it's just ugly
[0:26] <ShorTie> shutdown now -h
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[0:26] <shiftplusone> or 'halt'
[0:26] <Dev007> thanks done
[0:26] <tig|> debian runs on all sorts of things from phones to supercomputers :) raspbian is debian then taken by a team of people and tuned to work with the pi
[0:28] <Mike08e7> I'd read about "Raspbian" and knew it was a Debian derivattive (which is good-ish as I'm used to running Suse which is also a branch off of Deb).
[0:28] <Mike08e7> I just hadn't seen "Wheezy"
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[0:28] <tig|> erm Suse has nothing to do with Debian
[0:28] <shiftplusone> Suse? branch of debian?
[0:28] <Mike08e7> so I wanted to make sure I grabbed the right thing.. after all it's a 3 hr download on this slllllllow connection
[0:29] <Mike08e7> tig|: No?
[0:29] <shiftplusone> Mike08e7, yeah, you grabbed the right thing, don'y worry
[0:29] <Mike08e7> Thanks shiftplusone
[0:29] <tig|> Mike08e7: no, they are a totally different distro :) they don't even share a package format
[0:30] <Mike08e7> huh.... I had been told that Suse came from Deb. I stand corrected :)
[0:31] <Mike08e7> sort of like all the Ubunto break off versions
[0:31] <tig|> Mike08e7: I would use raspbian on the pi as it will all just work and it will be easier to get help :)
[0:32] <tig|> SuSE is closer to RedHat than Debian but that is a whole different kettle of fish :)
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[0:32] <Mike08e7> That's the plan :) I'll take the easy route on the first go round, maybe try something once I get familiar w/ this thing
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[0:33] <ShorTie> really, the os is the only thing to get use to
[0:33] <rikkib> I have used Debian since moving from Slackware in the late 1990's (1998 from memory)
[0:34] <tig|> good plan, get things working on raspbian first and then play with other disros later
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[0:34] <Mike08e7> yeah :)
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[0:35] <Mike08e7> I saw suse had or was working on a pi version, but I'd rather have the OS everyone else uses in case (read "WHEN") i need help :op
[0:37] <tig|> quite a few distros are available for the pi and if you are used to them then it is great they are available but if you are just starting out then most tutorials you will find will assume you are running raspbian
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[4:32] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys anyone knoow how to use cron properly?
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[4:56] <l_r> use the --force, Psil0Cybin
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[4:58] <Psil0Cybin> no i mean with times, like if i want to make a script run every hour?
[4:58] <Psil0Cybin> like i know every minute is * * * *
[4:58] <Psil0Cybin> but I get confused with timings, etc
[4:58] <l_r> man cron does not help?
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[5:03] <New2pi> .
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[5:05] <pksato> Psil0Cybin: cron date is minute hours "day o week" month year
[5:06] <pksato> 10 00 * * * run every day at 00:10 .
[5:06] * [Saint] thinks 'man cron' describes this more than adequately
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[5:06] <pksato> on system local time
[5:08] <Mike08e7> ok what's the pi's default un/pw for ssh
[5:08] <[Saint]> yeah - admittedly, that can be rather non-obvious.
[5:09] <Mike08e7> please
[5:09] <[Saint]> same as the login password
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[5:09] <Mike08e7> which is.....
[5:09] <pksato> 00 * * * * run every hour at zero minute.
[5:10] <[Saint]> depends on the distro, you didn't specify, so I can't tell you.
[5:10] <Mike08e7> raspbian
[5:10] <[Saint]> user: pi; pass: raspberry
[5:11] <Mike08e7> Thank you :)
[5:12] <[Saint]> (this is listed on the download page for the distro images, btw)
[5:12] <Mike08e7> I'm in!! It (setup) worked!
[5:12] <[Saint]> Huzzah.
[5:12] <Mike08e7> I was worred. I've used linux a long time, but i've always shied away from dd
[5:12] <Mike08e7> aka "Disk Destroyer" :)
[5:13] <[Saint]> Now, if it touches the Internet - change that username/password IMMEDIATELY. ;)
[5:13] <Mike08e7> hehe good warning but yeah I'm not on the net... yet :)
[5:13] <Mike08e7> kudo's to whoever wrote the writeup on the raspberry pi home page... made it a sinch to follow
[5:15] <[Saint]> If I was going to trawl for open ssh connections, pi:raspberry would definitely be in my dictionary.
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[5:15] <Mike08e7> I have no doubt it's on the lists
[5:16] <[Saint]> I did some cursory trawling for unprotected raspberry pis about a year ago, and the results were pretty disturbing.
[5:16] <Mike08e7> hmm should setup a honey pot to see what's being tried these days
[5:16] <[Saint]> I don't imagine this has gotten any better since then.
[5:16] <Mike08e7> wow, really?
[5:16] <[Saint]> ~3M pis sold worldwide.
[5:16] <Mike08e7> that's kinda sad. I'd have assumed pi folk would be more aware of the geeky stuff
[5:16] <Mike08e7> ssh is pretty simple to harden
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[5:17] <[Saint]> It is, yes. But its not necessarily simple to know that you need to. :)
[5:18] <Mike08e7> hehe fair point I suppose. I'd have just guessed those playing w/ this would be more tech-aware.
[5:18] <Mike08e7> you certainly proved otherwise
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[5:22] <Mike08e7> o.O
[5:23] <Mike08e7> ahh whew... setup is a little odd. Chose the location setup and the screen clears ...looks like you're dumped back at the prompt
[5:23] <Mike08e7> thought it had crashed
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[5:26] * [Saint] hasn't used raspbian in an age
[5:27] <Mike08e7> oh? What do you use, if I may ask?
[5:27] <[Saint]> Arch
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[5:29] <Mike08e7> Why do you prefer that? Not trolling for a distro fight, just interested.
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[5:30] <[Saint]> Because if I were to use raspbian, ~80% of the included packages would be entirely irrelevant to my uses and needn't be there.
[5:30] <Mike08e7> good reason :)
[5:30] <[Saint]> And I use Arch on my desktops and server at home.
[5:30] <[Saint]> SO migrating my preferred setup is trivial.
[5:31] <Mike08e7> makes sense. Once I play around w/ this as is, I plan on playing w/ the suse version for exactly the reason u gave
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[5:32] <[Saint]> I do pretty much everything commandline only, none of my pis even have a DE installed.
[5:33] <[Saint]> I was using a debian netinst image for a while, but having to cope with debianisms when I was pretty used to Arch got annoying.
[5:33] <[Saint]> There's a couple of Ubuntu machines here, but they exist pretty much solely for Ms. [Saint].
[5:34] <[Saint]> Getting her to switch from Windows was a ~2 year battle. :)
[5:34] <Mike08e7> ha :)
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[5:49] <Mike08e7> anyway to speed up the login? It seems to take 10 seconds to request the ssh pw.
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[5:52] <[Saint]> odd. its pretty much instant here.
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[5:54] <hybr1d8> try a 'ssh -v -v -v user@host' to get some more verbose output from ssh - might show where the holdup is
[5:55] <[Saint]> -vvv is fine. :)
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[6:00] <Mike08e7> hmm hanging on this ...
[6:00] <Mike08e7> debug2: key: /home/MYUSERNAME/.ssh/id_ecdsa ((nil))
[6:00] <Mike08e7> *MYUSERNAME would be the user on this PC
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[6:00] <Mike08e7> waits there for 10 seconds
[6:01] <Mike08e7> thanks for the verbose tip... now to figure out why :oP
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[6:09] <[Saint]> Mike08e7: that's an absolutely normal debug message
[6:09] <Mike08e7> i'm sure it is... but hanging on it for 11 seconds probably isn't :op
[6:09] <[Saint]> my own setup would throw the same error.
[6:09] <[Saint]> And, yes. ;)
[6:09] <Mike08e7> oh .. and the download page doesn't have the un/pw (or root pw)
[6:11] <[Saint]> did you perhaps miss the "More info +"?
[6:11] <[Saint]> Version:June 2014
[6:11] <[Saint]> Release date:2014-06-20
[6:11] <[Saint]> Default login:pi / raspberry
[6:11] <[Saint]> URL:raspbian.org
[6:11] <[Saint]> Kernel version:3.12
[6:11] <[Saint]> Release notes:Link
[6:11] <Mike08e7> doh
[6:11] <Mike08e7> ok.... root pw :)
[6:12] <[Saint]> there isn't one.
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[6:13] <Mike08e7> lol sudo su
[6:13] <Mike08e7> funny
[6:14] <[Saint]> Not particularly. There's very rarely ever a good reason for being root.
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[6:15] <Mike08e7> editing config files... saves typing sudo before every vi ...... command
[6:15] <Mike08e7> rare I agree
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[6:18] <Mike08e7> O.O root login is enabled by default ... that's bad
[6:18] <basica> hey guys, I recently updated my arch install and ssh has stopped working. it updated python and dnssec-anchors. i've reinstalled dnssec-anchors and ssh but no luck. anyone got any ideas of wherelse to troubleshoot?
[6:19] <[Saint]> Mike08e7: isn't it set as 'without_password' though?
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[6:24] <[Saint]> basica: I would try snooping around /var/log/
[6:27] <basica> Saint, thanks taking a look now
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[6:38] <Mike08e7> btw... if anyone else reports that login lag here's the fix
[6:38] <Mike08e7> add the following line to the sshd_config file (as root)
[6:38] <Mike08e7> UseDNS no
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[10:41] <mrmoney2012> hi guys.. i have one of these.https://energenie4u.co.uk/res/pdfs/ENER314%20UM.pdf
[10:41] <mrmoney2012> chaps rather than guys. apols
[10:41] <mrmoney2012> anyway
[10:41] <mrmoney2012> the range is poor
[10:41] <mrmoney2012> so i am ready to do what it says… “To increase the range of the transmitter you may wish to add an extra antenna to the circuit board. You can do this by soldering a piece of ordinary copper wire 13.5cm long into the hole marked ANT1 on the circuit board.”
[10:42] <mrmoney2012> however - what sort of wire to use ?
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[10:42] <mrmoney2012> does the gauge matter much? i have some breadboard jumper wires handy - are they ok ? should it be exactly 13.5 cm ?
[10:43] <SpeedEvil> Any wire will work, pretty much
[10:43] <SpeedEvil> yes
[10:43] <mrmoney2012> and my soldering is rubbish but i will try and make a connection. all tips appreciated. am ready to perform the operation !
[10:43] <mrmoney2012> ok, thanks - insulated i guess.
[10:43] <mrmoney2012> i have some thicker wire than jumper wire
[10:43] <mrmoney2012> quite stiff
[10:43] <mrmoney2012> jumper wires are too short i just realised
[10:44] <ech0s7> I have a problem with java based application client-server. The client and server are connected to router TP-LINK and all works fine if i use Socket. When i use SSLSocket the communication beetween server and client becomes very slow (15sec for request). If i connect the router to WAN port so also SSLSocket communication becomes fast!
[10:44] <mrmoney2012> have an old HDD LED jumper wire, that OK ?
[10:44] <SpeedEvil> yes
[10:44] <ech0s7> Anyone could help me ? I can not understand where is the problem
[10:46] <mrmoney2012> thanks Speedy
[10:46] <mrmoney2012> now to measure it
[10:46] <mrmoney2012> is the length critical ?
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[10:47] <ShorTie> most likely
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[10:49] <mrmoney2012> ok, i am using a jumper wire and going to solder the pin to the board
[10:49] <mrmoney2012> actually am not - taht wont fit in the case
[10:50] <mrmoney2012> hold on - single core wire better, or not mater?
[10:51] <ShorTie> ya, single core wire would be better
[10:52] <mrmoney2012> ok, thanks
[10:52] <mrmoney2012> i should be able to find some somewhere !
[10:54] <mrmoney2012> where do i find it - it’s in household plugs and stuff right - that ok ?
[10:54] <mrmoney2012> bit off the wife’s hairdryer maybe ?
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[10:55] <ShorTie> hardware store
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[11:03] <mrmoney2012> found some at the back of the garage
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[11:05] <mrmoney2012> leave insulation on . that ok ?
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[11:07] <ShorTie> anything the signal is required to go thru degrades it
[11:08] <mrmoney2012> ok, ta
[11:08] <mrmoney2012> i can strip it off in places
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[11:13] <mrmoney2012> now to solder . eeek
[11:15] <mrmoney2012> first rule of soldering - remmeber to take the plastic protection off the iron before u plug it in.. hahhaa
[11:15] <mrmoney2012> close call! hehe
[11:16] <mrmoney2012> so - remind me - do i heat 1) the hole 2) the wire 3) the solder 4) something else ?
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[11:18] <geordie> heat the wire is the conventional wisdom
[11:18] <ShorTie> 5) all of the above
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[11:19] <mrmoney2012> ok, thanks - am using some insulation tape to hold said wire in place
[11:19] <mrmoney2012> so i heat the wire and touch the solder on
[11:19] <mrmoney2012> ?
[11:19] <mrmoney2012> going in....
[11:21] <mrmoney2012> total fail - solder not melting.. grrr
[11:22] <mrmoney2012> trying again...
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[11:23] <geordie> mrmoney2012: i advise you to find a tutorial on soldering...
[11:23] <geordie> at least practice getting the solder to melt first
[11:23] <geordie> somewhere other than the thing you're working on
[11:24] <geordie> ...and it's not hard once you get the hang of it.
[11:26] <mrmoney2012> thanks, will get a book - but i want to get this wire connected right now
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[11:26] <ShorTie> soldering is not instantaneous, you have to let the heat soak in
[11:27] <mrmoney2012> soak into the wire then touch the solder onto it?
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[11:27] <ShorTie> depending on the watage of the iron and the size of the object, it can take awhile
[11:27] <mrmoney2012> the heat transfers through the core of the wire to the solder , is that right ?
[11:28] <mrmoney2012> my iron is an ebay cheapy
[11:28] <mrmoney2012> it has 30W written on it
[11:28] <mrmoney2012> am guessing low power
[11:29] <ShorTie> mose so medium in regauards to electronics
[11:29] <ShorTie> more*
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[11:30] <mrmoney2012> right ok, going in again more time this time, ta
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[11:31] <ShorTie> solder on the tip of the iron does help to transfer the heat
[11:32] <mrmoney2012> ok, ta
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[11:37] <mrmoney2012> done - god knows if it’s actaully connected. i found the only way to get the solder to melt was to press hard on the solder itself.
[11:37] <mrmoney2012> might be easy for some - not for me !
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[11:38] <ShorTie> no pressing involved, if hot enough
[11:38] <mrmoney2012> defo the worst soldering joint in history!
[11:38] <mrmoney2012> right - myabe not enough heat. thatnks for the tips
[11:38] <ShorTie> touch-n-melt is the way it works
[11:38] <mrmoney2012> gotcha
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[11:39] <mrmoney2012> will use a multimeter to check continuity
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[11:41] <ShorTie> a visual check should be good enough, with maybe a wiggle/jiggle thrown on too...
[11:41] <mrmoney2012> too scared to wiggle it !!!
[11:41] <mrmoney2012> but get the point
[11:42] <ShorTie> if it doesn't take a wiggle, it is not soldered
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[11:42] <mrmoney2012> am worried it’s not *exactly* 13.5cm (suggested antenna length) as i chopped a mm or two off by accident
[11:43] <mrmoney2012> contiuity good
[11:43] <mrmoney2012> insulation tape also in action !
[11:43] <mrmoney2012> hehe
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[11:46] <mrmoney2012> plluggn pi back in to see if range extended
[11:46] <mrmoney2012> chances… slim to none
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[11:53] <mrmoney2012> no differene it seems to range - grrrrr
[11:53] <mrmoney2012> oh well - back to drawing board
[11:53] <mrmoney2012> tahnks for comments
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[12:01] <geordie> a millimeter or two won't make much of a difference
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[12:04] <atmosx> hello
[12:04] <mrmoney2012> ta
[12:05] <atmosx> is there any non-bloated for vim? I'm running a headless pi and apt-get install vim, installed gnuplot...
[12:05] <mrmoney2012> wierd.. i will percevere… the good news is at close range the ON/OFF routine works a treat, doesn’t skip a beat
[12:05] <mrmoney2012> i know 433Mhz stuff is not an exact science, still the range is bad, 5 meters it seems ! (no good for my christmas lights)!
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[12:07] <mrmoney2012> maybe i should strip the insulation on the antenna wire
[12:07] <mrmoney2012> seems to have made no difference at present
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[12:12] <geordie> mrmoney2012: the good news is you have at least five months to get your design down.
[12:13] <mrmoney2012> haha, very true
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[12:46] <phorce1_home> mrmoney2012: and the insulation shouldn't affect RF at all unless it has a shield wrap inside
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[12:46] <mrmoney2012> ok thanks
[12:46] <mrmoney2012> i just logged back on, did you have other advice?
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[12:46] <mrmoney2012> i recon solder joint might have broken already inside case anyway, hoho.
[12:48] <phorce1_home> I missed the beginning of your conversation. All I know is you're trying to get an antenna wire to give you longer range LOL!
[12:50] <mrmoney2012> hehe , yes , RF sockets these https://energenie4u.co.uk/res/pdfs/ENER314%20UM.pdf - range presently terrible. 3 meters or less !
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[12:50] <phorce1_home> I'm sshing to the office so I can scroll back in the conversation and catch up (I keep irssi open 24/7 there)
[12:53] <mrmoney2012> yes i need to do that… use screen on my pi to this channel
[12:53] <mrmoney2012> you may laugh at my hilarious lack of soldering skills.
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[12:54] <mrmoney2012> now that is mad
[12:55] <phorce1_home> I'm looking for a better picture of that board
[12:56] <mrmoney2012> I have a light bloinking on and off on the remote socket, 2 sec delay infiniate loops - 5 feet from pi, working flawlessly, on off blink blink etc. I stand in between pi and light and signal is blocked. quite cool actually - err sort of
[12:56] <mrmoney2012> it’s a new thing i think there’s a blog post on rpi website
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[12:57] <mrmoney2012> am guessing transmitter is low power
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[12:57] <mrmoney2012> brb
[12:57] <phorce1_home> It's probably your solder joint but I'm trying to visualize *where* you soldered the extra antenna on the board since it appears to use a trace on the board as the "built in" antenna
[12:58] <mrmoney2012> there’s a hole on the board labelled ant1
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[12:59] <mrmoney2012> “To increase the range of the transmitter you may wish to add an extra antenna to the circuit board. You can do this by soldering a piece of ordinary copper wire 13.5cm long into the hole marked ANT1 on the circuit board.”
[13:01] <phorce1_home> Ahh, I see that in the PDF now. You are using solid wire rather than stranded, yes?
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[13:03] <mrmoney2012> yes
[13:04] <mrmoney2012> i found some…from an electric cable
[13:05] <phorce1_home> optimal quarter wave antenna length for 433 MHz is 16.5cm so there should be 3cm of "antenna trace" length on the board plus the 13.5cm they say to add
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[13:06] <mrmoney2012> exsqueeze me ?
[13:06] <mrmoney2012> :-)
[13:06] <mrmoney2012> i cut the wire to 13.5cm and soldered that, but as i say range seems unchanged
[13:07] <mrmoney2012> i see what you mean 3cm + the 13.5 they mentioned gets you to the optimum
[13:07] <mrmoney2012> ok
[13:08] <mrmoney2012> these rf sockets are quite handy of course fundamental problem is there is not a way to query if the socket it *actually* on or off at any point in time (state i suppose)
[13:08] <phorce1_home> each frequency has a "best" antenna length. Don't ask me to explain how that works. For 433MHz the length is 16.5cm. They say tio add a 13.5cm wire so I assume the antenna on the board is 3cm of copper
[13:08] <mrmoney2012> my desk lamp is happily flashing on and off though every couple of seconds, working a treat
[13:08] <mrmoney2012> gotcha
[13:09] <mrmoney2012> seems wierd taht there is 3cm of trae though - board itself is about that long!
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[13:09] <phorce1_home> You can try going to a half-wave antenna length. That is 32.94cm so your wire would be 29.94cm long for that.
[13:10] <phorce1_home> look at the board. You can see a trace on one side that weaves back and forth across the board.
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[13:12] <phorce1_home> one end of it probably connects to the hole where you soldered your wire
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[13:17] <mrmoney2012> gotcha… maybe i will snip the wire to half-wave as it aint working now
[13:17] <mrmoney2012> sorry… make it longer
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[13:18] <phorce1_home> Actually, I just saw a better photo. The ANT hole is at the "beginning" of the antenna trace so the wire isn't adding to the length. Try actually using a 16.5cm wire (or 33cm wire). Start with a full 33cm then snip it back slowly to tune it.
[13:19] <phorce1_home> (that way you only have to solder once more)
[13:20] <mrmoney2012> clever
[13:21] <mrmoney2012> ok, thanks… will do - i can’t face soldering at the moment after my traumatic expereince this morn but will do later. thanks
[13:21] <phorce1_home> I'm trying to lay out a combination of 3 video conversion circuits to be able to use my Commodore128 with modern monitors/TVs easier. it's ugly.
[13:22] <mrmoney2012> i will get a better wire also.. one i have gauge too think to pass through hole making the join even more tricky!
[13:22] <mrmoney2012> good luck.. sounds fun
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[13:27] <mrmoney2012> tata
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[13:40] <Sasha> Hi, just wondering, it's not possible to have video to both outputs, no?
[13:40] <Sasha> If not, is there a command that can be run to hot swap between two displays?
[13:43] <pksato> Sasha: No. tvservice.
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[13:44] <Sasha> hmm cool thanks
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[14:55] <Mike08e7> I'm ssh'ed into my pi. When I connect the wi-pi device my connection locks up
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[14:57] <Mike08e7> * using raspian
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[15:03] <takkie> Mike08e7: can you post you /etc/network/interfaces somewhere?
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[15:04] <Mike08e7> http://susepaste.org/54887735
[15:05] <Mike08e7> i'm guessing it's trying to connect to another network?
[15:06] <Darkwell> have any of you tried funning nginx and uwsgi on raspbiamn ?
[15:06] <takkie> Mike08e7: depends on wpa_supplicant.conf
[15:06] <Darkwell> was thinkin on trying running python on that
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[15:07] <takkie> Mike08e7: comment 'iface default' and add 'auto wlan0'
[15:07] <takkie> ^ see if that works
[15:08] <Mike08e7> will the pi need a reboot?
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[15:09] <takkie> sure
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[15:14] <Mike08e7> nope :(
[15:14] <Mike08e7> same result
[15:14] <takkie> Mike08e7: are both interfaces still up?
[15:15] <Mike08e7> my ssh just locked up. i can't tell
[15:15] <Mike08e7> ssh session
[15:15] <Mike08e7> i pull out the card and a few seconds later I'm able to reconnect
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[15:16] <takkie> can you reconnect with ssh while both are plugged in?
[15:16] <Mike08e7> i'll give it a shot
[15:17] <Mike08e7> no. I started pinging the pi and as soon as the wifi was connected the pings die
[15:18] <takkie> maybe the wipi does connect to you AP and has a new IP. can you check?
[15:19] <Mike08e7> No as I don't have a wireless network running... this may be connecting to some neighbor
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[15:20] <takkie> ssh back into the pi and check dmesg, maybe even journalctl -xn
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[15:22] <shiftplusone> journalctl? raspbian? O_o
[15:23] <shiftplusone> Mike08e7, do you have a multimeter? It sounds like you've getting a voltage drop which locks things up.
[15:23] <Mike08e7> no :(
[15:23] <shiftplusone> got a different supply to try?
[15:24] <takkie> shiftplusone: raspbian doesn't have that? didn't know, i only use arch
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[15:24] <shiftplusone> takkie, yeah, it's a systemd thing.
[15:24] <shiftplusone> Raspbian is still on sysvinit
[15:24] <takkie> but debian isn't anymore, is it?
[15:24] <a7x> iirc no
[15:25] <shiftplusone> Well, wheezy is... don't know about jessie and sid
[15:25] <a7x> pretty sure sid doesn't
[15:25] <Mike08e7> shiftplusone: nosir
[15:25] <a7x> (doesn't have sysvinit)
[15:26] <shiftplusone> Hm, I suspect debian users won't be happy when they're switched to systemd
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[17:35] <gordonDrogon> they can price my sysv-init from my cold dead hands ...
[17:35] <gordonDrogon> *prize...
[17:36] <shiftplusone> ^Exhibit A
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[17:38] <gordonDrogon> Gnome3 required systemd AIUI which is part of the push towards in in Debian. As long as I can still install sysv-init, or file-rc I'll be happy for a while.
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[18:43] <Mike08e7> .
[18:48] <koell> .
[18:49] <takkie> >.<
[18:49] <IT_Sean> (O_o)
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[18:52] <shiftplusone> ?
[18:53] <IT_Sean> !
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[18:56] <gordonDrogon> �
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[19:02] <Mortvert> Oh hello
[19:02] <Mortvert> Anyone had any luck running a amiga emulator on retropie 2.2?
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[19:08] <Mike08e7> Is there a way (raspbian) to turn on/off the USB wifi dongle?
[19:09] <shiftplusone> Mike08e7, taking it out and putting it back is one way, but I'm guessing that's not what you're after. There's a way to disable USB altogether, but again, that's probably not what you want
[19:10] <Mike08e7> yeah... the pi seems to reboot when plugging it in so I was looking for a software solution :)
[19:10] <Mike08e7> .. when plugging the wifi thing in
[19:11] <takkie> Mike08e7: then it might very well be a power issue, as shiftplusone pointed out before.
[19:11] <Mike08e7> yeah no way for me to test for that at the moment :(
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[19:12] <takkie> Mike08e7: no mobile microUSB wallcharger nearby?
[19:12] <Mike08e7> nope
[19:12] <takkie> too bad
[19:12] <Mike08e7> only this one
[19:12] <Mike08e7> yeah
[19:13] <Mike08e7> this is the charger that came in the kit. if that means anything
[19:13] <takkie> how much amps can it deliver?
[19:14] <Mike08e7> 5v 1A
[19:14] <takkie> that's not enough, the RPi already takes up about 0.7 amp
[19:15] <takkie> iirc
[19:15] <shiftplusone> the pi alone shouldn't take more than 400mA
[19:15] <Mike08e7> i thought I read somewhere 1A is the pi's max
[19:16] <shiftplusone> and then you add usb devices
[19:16] <shiftplusone> the problem is that power supplies lie
[19:16] <Mike08e7> befroe blue smoke escapes
[19:16] <shiftplusone> it may say 1A, but you don't know if it's actually delivering 5V at 1A or 4.5V at 1A
[19:16] <Mike08e7> shiftplusone: very true
[19:17] <shiftplusone> the pi begins to struggle at about 4.7V because the USB/LAN chip actually needs the 5V
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[19:20] <Mike08e7> so what stats should I look for in a pwer supply?
[19:21] <shiftplusone> the brand
[19:21] <shiftplusone> If you, in theory, can successfully sue them for burning down your house or electrocuting your cat, it's probably not lying.
[19:22] <shiftplusone> If it's a random Chinese supply, they can put whatever they want on the label
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[19:25] <ShorTie> the quality of the micro-usb cable also plays an important role in power issues
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[19:27] <Mike08e7> this is an MCM 'kit'
[19:27] <Mike08e7> if that means anything
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[19:30] <ShorTie> the poly fuse can pass up to 1.1amps in spurts, so a 1amp supply is not really enough imho to keep the voltage up
[19:31] <Mike08e7> Says Raspberry PI PSU by the prongs and has the little berry logo
[19:32] <ShorTie> but wifi's are best powered by a powered usb hub
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[19:32] <Mike08e7> gotcha
[19:33] <takkie> but check for backfeed, you don't want that.
[19:33] <takkie> i believe there's a list somewhere, with tested USB hubs
[19:33] <ShorTie> good 1's normally do not back feed
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[19:34] <ShorTie> you get what you pay for as they say
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[19:34] <takkie> Mike08e7: http://elinux.org/RPi_Powered_USB_Hubs
[19:35] * Mike08e7 takes notes
[19:36] <Mike08e7> so use the pwer supply AND a hub that's on the good list?
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[19:36] <ShorTie> you can
[19:37] <Mike08e7> Does that mean I shoud just power from the hub?
[19:37] <ShorTie> or if the hub's power supply is big enough you can power the pi too...
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[19:38] <ShorTie> i like the roswill rhb500 hub, it comes with a 4amp supply
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[19:39] <ShorTie> rosewill*
[19:40] <Mike08e7> 25 bucks.. yikes
[19:40] <ShorTie> you can almost never have a 'To Big' of a power supply
[19:41] <ShorTie> you get what you pay for as they say, hehe.
[19:41] <Mike08e7> :)
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[19:45] <ShorTie> here, watch the video, they give a glimsp of what they use
[19:45] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-compute-module-new-product/
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[19:47] <takkie> this looks nice: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/10la/raspiado-the-usb-hub-that-fits-your-raspberry-pi
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[19:51] <ShorTie> 40 bucks, i thought you said 'yikes' to 25, lol.
[19:52] <takkie> not me. It would need a new case though
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[19:54] <takkie> too bad he didn't fit a RTC on it, there's some space left on the pcb
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[19:58] <Mike08e7> hmmm
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[20:10] <Hagbard-Celine> anyone looking to get a hummingboard?
[20:10] <shiftplusone> not me
[20:11] <Hagbard-Celine> will there be a raspberry pi 2 of same footprint with faster proc?
[20:11] <IT_Sean> No plans as of yet for a 'new' raspi
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[20:12] <shiftplusone> no announced plans anyway
[20:12] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[20:13] <shiftplusone> there's not much need for a faster processor anyway. The things that need more processing power are typically things that can be accelerated by using the available hardware.
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[20:14] <takkie> i may get the hummingbird, depends on the msata performance
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[20:14] <Hagbard-Celine> i still cant get it to handle the xbmc interface smooth/stableat 1080p
[20:14] <shiftplusone> I tend to use xbmc for the video playback, not for the interface
[20:15] <IT_Sean> Really? I never had an issue with OpenELEC on my Pi
[20:15] <shiftplusone> and the interface is sufficient to get the video up and running, so I can't complain.
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[20:18] <Hagbard-Celine> i agree, it works, but not quite' there yet you know what i mean?
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[20:18] <IT_Sean> I never had any performance issues. I mean, there was the odd glitch during updates and such, but, day to day it ran without issue.
[20:18] <Hagbard-Celine> a slightly quicker pi would shut me up
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[20:24] <IT_Sean> Don't hold your breathe.
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[20:43] <ppq> Hagbard-Celine, for XBMC i would use something like this http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Q1900DC-ITX/ (~85€). DDR3 SO-DIMM in small quantities is pretty cheap too, about 15€ for 2 GB, so you can get a small, comparatively fast, power-saving pc for 100€. as a power supply you can use anything with a 5.5mm/2.5mm jack 9-19 V DC
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[20:45] <Hagbard-Celine> thanks for tip.. they have a couple of android settop boxes on amazon that can almost get the job done.. i imagine before the years is over a suitable device will hit the market
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[20:51] <_Trullo> just get a intel nuc
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[20:53] <Hagbard-Celine> those appear viable.. read a bit about them.. it should be doable for about $100 i figure.. should be able to afford them as gifts
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[20:56] <Mortvert> hm.
[20:56] <Mortvert> Does anyone here use emulationstation?
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[21:34] <Hagbard-Celine> i did for a minute
[21:34] <Hagbard-Celine> got some romz loaded and tested successfully
[21:34] <Hagbard-Celine> openemu on my macbook with retina display is better though so i moved on to other projects
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