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IRC Log for 2014-07-14

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[0:09] <koell> shiftplusone: you wear a hate now in here? :3
[0:09] <shiftplusone> O_O no hate here
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[0:10] <shiftplusone> I have pretty much always had a hat though
[0:10] <koell> hat :D
[0:10] <shiftplusone> I just rarely put it on
[0:11] <koell> you look good with! i like to get dominated then :D
[0:11] <shiftplusone> ... send me a pm =P
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[0:11] <koell> yes sir^^
[0:11] <P33M> towering pillar of hat
[0:12] <shiftplusone> (and he actually did)
[0:12] <koell> where is the wizard?
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[0:13] <koell> time bandit, cornelia marie, wizard... i like discovery channel :D
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[0:15] <[Saint]> I...hmmm.
[0:15] <gordonDrogon> I was described as a wizard yesterday.
[0:15] <gordonDrogon> it was quite cool.
[0:15] <[Saint]> How long would you reckon it took to develop the compute module, and board?
[0:15] <[Saint]> At a conservative guess.
[0:16] <[Saint]> Ballpark is fine.
[0:16] <shiftplusone> I don't what koell is talking about, but I think you don't want any part of it, gordonDrogon.
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[0:16] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, very probabl y not.
[0:16] <koell> oh im sorry, back to topic. sorry that
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[0:17] <gordonDrogon> I do appear to possess hiccup curing wizardry though.
[0:17] <[Saint]> More than 10 months?
[0:17] <[Saint]> I assume so.
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[0:18] <gordonDrogon> [Saint], you could check the forums to see when it was first talked about...
[0:18] <shiftplusone> I have no idea. I don't image it would be that long.
[0:19] <[Saint]> It came out two months ago-ish, yeah?
[0:19] <[Saint]> Post in September stating "nope, not working on anything new"...bam...compute module.
[0:20] * datagutt (~datagutt@unaffiliated/datagutt) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[0:20] <[Saint]> If it really went from nothing, to a shipable product, in 8 months or less...
[0:20] <[Saint]> Well done.
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[0:23] <[Saint]> Also. Sorry. In hindsight, that was probably kinda naughty.
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[0:23] <shiftplusone> ?
[0:23] <[Saint]> I wasn't sure the implication was appreciated.
[0:24] <shiftplusone> hm
[0:26] <Syliss> lol
[0:28] <MY123> Tomorrow, a thing, I will let you discover it.
[0:30] <Syliss> ?_?
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[0:30] <Syliss> <_<
[0:31] <P33M> i don't even want to know
[0:31] <MY123> Syliss: It is a Raspberry Pi thing
[0:31] <Syliss> is it on a site about cobbling things together?
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[0:34] <[Saint]> MY123: its pretty apparent they don't want us raining on their parade.
[0:34] * PhotoJim (~Jim@dubbo.ip4.photojim.ca) Quit (Quit: leaving)
[0:34] <[Saint]> Or, dropping hints about it.
[0:34] <MY123> Syliss: No, completly different.
[0:34] <[Saint]> At least not here.
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[0:35] <MY123> Saint, you will know it, we talked about it all day.
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[0:36] <Syliss> lol
[0:36] <Syliss> 2 sides are so better than 4
[0:37] <[Saint]> MY123: I have a fair idea what you speak of, yes.
[0:37] <[Saint]> But let's not do this here.
[0:37] <[Saint]> We've been asked nicely.
[0:37] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
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[0:37] <Syliss> i hate that my mbp only has stuff on one side
[0:37] <Syliss> so much easier with 2 sides
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[0:39] * [Saint] used to be contracted to an MBP
[0:39] <P33M> required to use a macbook?
[0:39] <[Saint]> consultancy group.
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[0:39] <P33M> was suicide plus generous family settlement an option?
[0:39] <Syliss> lol
[0:40] <Syliss> i love my macs i will never go back
[0:40] <Syliss> but i always buy used
[0:40] <[Saint]> Great HW. Balls SW.
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[0:40] <[Saint]> Like everything Apple.
[0:40] <[Saint]> Ever.
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[0:41] <Syliss> lol
[0:42] <[Saint]> You're not one of them Hackintosh weirdos are 'ya?
[0:42] <[Saint]> ;)
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[0:43] <Syliss> used to be
[0:43] <Syliss> but i have real apples
[0:45] <Syliss> i have a early 2008 mbp (got free but had to fix), a 2007 white mb (same free but had to fix) and a used 2011 13” pro (got off craigslist)
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[0:55] <[Saint]> At least you have at least one semi serviceable model.
[0:55] <[Saint]> I went off Apple HW when they decided it was all disposable.
[0:56] <[Saint]> Bad battery? Cracked screen? Hahahaha...nuts to you, sucka.
[0:57] <MY123> I use an old legitimate Galaxy Tab 7' ( GT-P1000 ).
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[1:19] <Syliss> lol [Saint] yeah i know
[1:20] <Syliss> you can still replace those
[1:20] <Syliss> its just a pain
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[1:30] <Pluxx> I just ordered a B+ from a Dutch retailer that had it show up in their inventory right around midnight. has the embargo been lifted, or are some of these sites just jumping the gun?
[1:32] <MY123> Pluxx: The official release is at 10a.m.
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[1:32] <Pluxx> ah good to know
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[1:46] <jerome-> what kind of tool can I use to increase the root partition?
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[1:57] <gordonDrogon> jerome-, use sudo raspi-config
[1:57] <jerome-> doesn't work for me
[1:57] <jerome-> I found it: fdisk
[1:57] <shiftplusone> fdisk, cfdisk, parted, gparted... they'll all do it if you know how to use them
[1:57] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/initial-setup1/
[1:58] <gordonDrogon> that's a vry old page now, but it's got the runes for using fdisk and ext-resize program in it.
[1:58] <shiftplusone> heh 'Gorden'
[1:58] <jerome-> thanks
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[1:59] <gordonDrogon> you mean the first comment?
[2:00] <jerome-> gordonDrogon what ?
[2:00] <shiftplusone> yes
[2:00] <gordonDrogon> jerome-, sorry - reply to shiftplusone
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[2:00] <gordonDrogon> people spel my name wringly - frequently.
[2:01] <gordonDrogon> and google for ode to a spelling chequer ...
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[2:03] <shiftplusone> heh
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[2:08] <MY123> shiftplusone: Why is every reseller having the B+ now to their home page?
[2:09] <P33M> because they cannot into internets?
[2:09] <shiftplusone> Trying to outdo each other, I guess.
[2:09] <MY123> Apparently the embargo has been lifted a little before the blog post.
[2:10] <P33M> if (NDA) goto 10 else POSTALLTHETHINGS()
[2:11] <MY123> So, why not a blog post? Some persons were banned because they talked about that...
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[2:12] <P33M> cos people in GMT time zones have to sleep too, y'know
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[2:13] <MY123> Anyway, Americans are working now.
[2:14] * shiftplusone puts on Bohemian Rhapsody.
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[2:15] <MY123> And anyone in the UK or in France should fall asleep.
[2:15] <MY123> Or any other GMT regions ...
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[2:23] <Neobenedict> [01:08:49] <MY123> shiftplusone: Why is every reseller having the B+ now to their home page?
[2:23] <Neobenedict> because today is the day it was supposed to be announced :P
[2:24] <phire> B+?
[2:25] <bonelifer> to probably denote, no newer ram or cpu
[2:26] <MY123> Know that it should be released in 8am, not now. Yes , phire a B+ with the SMI and some cool things exposed.
[2:26] <bonelifer> MY123: SMI?
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[2:27] <phire> Static Memory Interface?
[2:27] <MY123> Secondary Memory Interface, bonelifer, high bandwith, can be ideal for more memory.
[2:28] <bonelifer> I assume the MicroSD is on the bottom, as the pictures I've seen are all of the same orientation
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[2:30] <MY123> phire: The SMI is good with shiftplusone working to get inter Raspberry Pi DSI -> CSI very fast raw data comms.
[2:30] <phire> oh, is that what you are working on shiftplusone
[2:30] <shiftplusone> eh? I have nothing to do with SMI
[2:30] <phire> yeah the RPI is missing a fast external data bus
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[2:31] <bonelifer> the headerless RUN by the LEDS what's that?
[2:31] <MY123> Yes. But SMI is for fast buffered comms. The DSI is for the other type, much like a serial port.
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[2:31] <phire> DSI is a fast bus for driving LCDs
[2:32] <phire> SMI is listed as ??? in my docs
[2:32] <MY123> Eben works about SMI , phire and he promised to release docs.
[2:32] <phire> good
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[2:33] <MY123> phire: shiftplusone is working on transferring any data with DSI.
[2:33] <phire> it's output only
[2:34] <MY123> Yes, DSI to CSI loopback between two Pis.
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[2:34] <shiftplusone> and of course the compute module has two of each
[2:35] <MY123> It have gigabyte speed , may design a CSI-DSI ethernet adapter chip.
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[2:36] <MY123> I have Verilog skills, will buy a cheap FPGA because the expensive one is dedicated to my CPU's development, phire.
[2:37] <phire> Verilog is hard
[2:37] <MY123> It will be good with Gigabit Ethernet.
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[2:37] <MY123> phire: Understand it and work with it. Agree that it is quite hard.
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[2:38] <phire> it feels like you are abstracted too far above the hardware you are implemented
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[2:38] <phire> I managed to make a vga driver with some test patterns
[2:38] <phire> @ 1080p
[2:41] <MY123> Where it is, phire ?
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[2:42] <phire> I don't think I published the source code anywhere, I wasn't really impressed with it
[2:42] <MY123> Anyway, will wait shiftplusone to finish its implementation.
[2:42] <shiftplusone> don't wait too hard
[2:43] <MY123> Can you publish the Src code,phire, what interface is it using ?
[2:44] <phire> built in 4bit/colour vga dac on the DE1 board
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[2:45] <MY123> What is the DE1 board ?
[2:45] <phire> It's at home
[2:45] <phire> http://www.altera.com/education/univ/materials/boards/de1/unv-de1-board.html
[2:47] <MY123> Good. Maybe using a bare DAC like my experiment on the BeagleBone (white) is better.
[2:47] <doctorpenguin> how do you add coins in mame 4 all; thought I would ask b4 extensively searching?
[2:49] <Sonny_Jim> press 5
[2:49] <Sonny_Jim> tab will bring up the configuration menu
[2:49] <MY123> shiftplusone: Is DSI documentation going to be released?
[2:49] <Sonny_Jim> The keys are all in there
[2:49] <doctorpenguin> awesome
[2:49] <doctorpenguin> ty
[2:50] <doctorpenguin> wanted to help my father relive his college days
[2:50] <doctorpenguin> playing pacman
[2:50] <shiftplusone> MY123, understand that I'm just an intern there for a short while. I don't know what their plans are and whatever I do know is not for me to reveal.
[2:51] <MY123> Ah. Sadly not for release 😠
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[3:01] <doctorpenguin> off-topic but, is 60 minutes on @ 9?
[3:01] <doctorpenguin> or 10
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[3:02] <shiftplusone> I think it's every hour
[3:03] <doctorpenguin> ah I missed it
[3:03] <doctorpenguin> it was on @7
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[3:13] <The_HunterT> Anyone have experince building a weather station?
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[3:16] <wooter> I have a barometer running The_HunterT, that's about it
[3:16] <wooter> with scripts that notify on pressure spikes and logs that compile graphs
[3:17] <The_HunterT> wooter: Where did you get your hardware?
[3:17] <wooter> ebay
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[3:18] <ShorTie> what would we do with them, lol.
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[3:22] <[Saint]> rikkib has a lot of experience with weather stations.
[3:22] <[Saint]> Oh...but, heh...yeah.
[3:22] <[Saint]> He's no longer with us.
[3:23] <The_HunterT> What happend?
[3:23] <[Saint]> He bit the hand that fed.
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[3:24] <[Saint]> (Foundation wasn't terribly impressed with us raining on their parade, and he didn't take the "could you please not do that?" hints given)
[3:24] <[Saint]> To make a short story even shorter.
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[3:25] <The_HunterT> I might just do it with Arduino
[3:26] * [Saint] sees an opportunity
[3:26] <[Saint]> ...Snowball!
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[3:28] <[Saint]> Calao Systems STE Snowball: ~$50 USD, dual core 1.2GHz NovaThor CPU, Adreno 300 GPU, onboard WiFi, BT, NAND flash storage, and a metric buttload of sensors.
[3:29] <[Saint]> GPS, barometer, magnetometer, 3-axis gyro, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor...
[3:29] <[Saint]> (ie. "all good things for a weather station")
[3:29] <[Saint]> The_HunterT: ^
[3:29] <shiftplusone> The channel is separate from the foundation and they have no real say here (unless they ask to take it over completely). But yes, the leak was discussed a little on IRC and most people left it at that. I asked him to stop. He went on repeating it to anybody who would listen. Even then he was no banned. The final straw was probably gleefully bragging about it. I knew he had an axe to grind with
[3:29] <shiftplusone> the foundation, but we felt that was going a little overboard.
[3:29] <The_HunterT> Looking at int now
[3:29] <[Saint]> You'd spend about twice the cost adding shields to do all that to an arduino.
[3:30] <The_HunterT> Their website <3
[3:30] * ShorTie thinkz, ah, be nice
[3:31] <Sonny_Jim> I saw it differently
[3:31] <Sonny_Jim> But opinions are like bumholes, right? Everybody has one
[3:31] <NedScott> the burning question on my mind is if the microSD card extends out past the board or not
[3:32] <NedScott> surely it doesn't, right?
[3:32] <[Saint]> Sonny_Jim: I resent that!
[3:32] <Sonny_Jim> There's a mechanical drawing somehere
[3:32] <[Saint]> Not *everyone* has one...
[3:32] * Sonny_Jim hands [Saint] a colostomy bag
[3:32] <[Saint]> I have plenty, thanks. :)
[3:33] <NedScott> I ordered 6 B+'s from MCM, used a coupon, and got free shipping. Their leaked listing also includes a noobs card. With the 15% off coupon each one comes with the 8GB card and is only $24 USD
[3:34] <NedScott> now, I have no idea what I will do with 6
[3:34] <NedScott> but I'm sure I'll find something :D
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[3:37] <[Saint]> NedScott: wait a week and put them on eBay.
[3:37] <[Saint]> At 200% markup.
[3:37] <[Saint]> Errr...I mean...ummm, do nice things.
[3:37] <NedScott> I'd love to do that, but I'm too honest for my own good
[3:38] <NedScott> I once ordered 6 from MCM before, since anything over $200 is free shipping, and did sell the others, but I sold them at cost
[3:38] <NedScott> fastest ebay listings ever
[3:38] <NedScott> actually, I take that back, I sold them for about $5 more and they paid for the one I kept
[3:39] <[Saint]> This initial run will go pretty quickly, I'd guess.
[3:39] <[Saint]> Then you'll be left with the people with more money than sense, and a hankering for pi.
[3:39] <[Saint]> Then...profit.
[3:40] <NedScott> I read the compute module will only be sold in bulk, so when that happens I might buy one and sell 99 on ebay
[3:40] <[Saint]> No need. Others will buy in bulk and resell unless specifically prohibited from doing so.
[3:41] <[Saint]> Hell, I'd wager many outside jurisdiction wouldn;t care even if that was the case.
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[3:42] <MY123> You can resell compute modules.
[3:42] <MY123> It is just not worth the price
[3:43] <[Saint]> [subjective]
[3:43] <The_HunterT> I'm just waiting for me free board from microsoft.... lol
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[3:44] <[Saint]> The_HunterT: have they even got back to you yet?
[3:44] <[Saint]> I haven't heard a peep from 'em.
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[3:45] <MY123> When you add shipping costs and other things, more 30£ like a B but without the IO board.
[3:45] <The_HunterT> I got the "well tell you whenits shipped"
[3:45] * [Saint] re-checks his email
[3:46] <[Saint]> The_HunterT: how long ago did you fill out the form?
[3:46] <[Saint]> Ahhhhhh, nevermind. There we go.
[3:46] <[Saint]> Google threw it in the crap can.
[3:48] <The_HunterT> Well, its Google...
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[3:57] <[Saint]> I was hoping my email extensions I created for the sake of filtering didn't scare them off.
[3:57] <[Saint]> If an actual human parsed them, that would likely have been the case.
[3:58] <[Saint]> I didn't want to fork over my real address, so I created a bunch of extensions I could filter easily (but it didn't help, apparently, the replies still got crap canned).
[3:59] <The_HunterT> I just use hunter@suspectedterrorist[dot]org for my shady email
[3:59] <[Saint]> I used a bunch of variants of "i.like.free.stuff.so.gimme.address@provider"
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[4:00] <[Saint]> Almost certainly with some expletives rolled in.
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[4:01] <XESavant> spambox+[tag]@peerdotiddotau
[4:01] <XESavant> gmail works nice for that
[4:01] <[Saint]> The other option for quick filtering is just jamming a bunch of periods in my address.
[4:01] <[Saint]> m.y.e.m.a.i.l.a.d.d.r.e.s.s@foo.bar
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[4:02] <[Saint]> Identical to myemailaddress@foo.bar, or my.emailaddress@foo.bar, etc.
[4:02] <[Saint]> The periods are just dropped out.
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[4:50] <The_HunterT> You know that feeling you get when you know youre have to go to work in the morning and do something tedious. Hate that.
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[5:26] * [Saint] is going to be losing his man cave
[5:27] <[Saint]> <sob, oh cry, oh sob, oh cry and weep...>
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[5:31] * [Saint] wants to crush this Avast snakeoil
[5:32] <[Saint]> They fail to mention that in many cases, even their application which claims to be able to do so can't actually securely delete files.
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[5:33] <[Saint]> And, also, the idea of a virus scanner on Android is somewhat absurd. EVen if they didn't implement it in a truly broken fashion.
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[5:44] <phire> avg is worse
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[5:48] <phire> The company actually make spyware
[5:48] <phire> along with antivirus software
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[5:55] <wooter> ahh sometimes I wish IRC had a like button
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[6:04] <doctorpenguin> is trying n64 on retropi worth it?
[6:04] <doctorpenguin> I can't get it to stop error b/c of a controller issue ie, no rumble pack
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[8:08] <gbaman> Raspberry Pi model B+ has finally been announced - http://www.raspberrypi.org/introducing-raspberry-pi-model-b-plus/
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[8:15] <Stanto> The raspberry pi b+ is now available it seems http://ow.ly/z77w3
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[8:36] <owen_> wonders if my Gertboard and Gertduino will still funtion/fit on the first 26 of those 40 gpio pins, looks like it will
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[8:45] <Pitel_IPEX> Just found out about B+... are the 4 USBs any good? Because on normal B, you needed powered hub for anything more than mouse and keyboard.
[8:45] <gbaman> Pitel_IPEX: the power supply for the pi has been reworked so there is more power for the USB to work with
[8:45] <jedahan> Pitel_IPEX what if you want 4 mice :)
[8:46] <gbaman> the new one saves between 0.5 and 1 watt
[8:46] <shiftplusone> 2A polyfuse on it, but you need a good supply that can cope with it
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[8:46] <Pitel_IPEX> gbaman: ok, thanks
[8:46] <gbaman> but yes, might want to make sure you have a decent power supply
[8:47] <jedahan> weird that they went with a 4pole analog out (not very popular) but kept hdmi instead of going to microhdmi
[8:48] <gbaman> microhdmi is a pain
[8:48] <gbaman> not very common, very few people used the composite anyway
[8:48] <jedahan> because of the chicken and egg problem?
[8:48] <gbaman> most people used standard hdmi
[8:49] <gbaman> i would say it was going to be removed, then they found a 4 pole connector and so kept it
[8:49] <jedahan> yeah, and until UK forced all phones to go microusb, it was not super popular
[8:49] <jedahan> gbaman composite is popular around these parts...
[8:50] <jedahan> pi b+ had a chance to push the standard into popularity
[8:50] <jedahan> still very happy with all the free improvements tbh
[8:50] <gbaman> there really wasn't space :(
[8:50] <shiftplusone> the size of the pi was largely determined by how the connectors fit. the problem with having connectors on all 4 sides is that cable management becomes a mess. Adding more gpio pins and moving all connectors to two sides would be pretty much impossible without combining the connectors.
[8:50] <Stanto> "<gbaman> not very common, very few people used the composite anyway" I think people used it for some small screens
[8:50] <jedahan> yeah no I am very happy with that
[8:51] <jedahan> but why not go with microhdmi then if space is limited
[8:51] <shiftplusone> and using composite with the audio jack was a bit of a pain, since tvs used the rca cables for audio. Now you can buy a cheap trs->rca adapter and the works great
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[8:51] <Stanto> I haven't seen any jack to rca adapters
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[8:52] <jedahan> yeah those are as hard to find as microhdmi to hdmi.
[8:52] <jedahan> easy to order from the internet, good luck finding in your local bodega
[8:53] <jedahan> or more importantly, can't assume people have them lying around
[8:53] <Stanto> great
[8:53] <Stanto> as a mister joe public I've never seen them
[8:55] <shiftplusone> Oh, yeah it doesn't make using composite easy, I agree.
[8:56] <shiftplusone> When I saw the b+ for the first time I thought that was probably the weak point. I think I'd still buy a b+ even if using composite though.
[8:57] <gbaman> although do keep in mind, very few other small board computers even have composite
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[10:58] <[Saint]> Hmmmm.
[10:59] <[Saint]> The free Galileo thing from MS seems to have dried up.
[10:59] <[Saint]> I'm guessing we hugged it to death.
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[11:03] <rymate1234> wonder when theyll be shipped
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[11:05] <[Saint]> I got shipping confirmation a few hours ago.
[11:05] <[Saint]> Approximately 2 hours after giving them shipping details.
[11:05] <[Saint]> Pretty snappy.
[11:06] <rymate1234> man i never got shipping confirmation
[11:06] <rymate1234> i signed up a week ago
[11:06] <[Saint]> Checked your spambox?
[11:06] <[Saint]> Google decided to throw all correspondence from MS into the crap can on my end.
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[11:06] * [Saint] chooses to believe this was a deliberate move
[11:06] <[Saint]> ...'cos, Google.
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[11:07] <rymate1234> last email i got was "Thank you for signing up for the Windows Developer Program for IoT. We’ll let you know when we have more to share."
[11:07] <rymate1234> on tuesday
[11:07] <[Saint]> Ah. Hmmm.
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[11:07] <gordonDrogon> morning people.
[11:08] <[Saint]> I got a very similar reply, but it was "thankyou for signing up, tell us your shipping details, so we can send you some stuffs, yo"
[11:08] <rymate1234> maybe its because im in the uk?
[11:08] <[Saint]> I'm in NZ.
[11:08] <[Saint]> Pretty hard to get more remote than that.
[11:08] <rymate1234> i got the above email after i gave my shipping details
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> owen_, both gertboard & gertduino are fine on the B+ - the rev 1 gertboard with the ribbon cable is ok too, but it's a bit fiddly fitting the connector.
[11:08] <[Saint]> (almost impossible, actually)
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[11:08] <[Saint]> rymate1234: ahhh.
[11:08] <[Saint]> Hmmm.
[11:08] <[Saint]> Odd.
[11:09] <[Saint]> It does seem as though not everyone is being selected.
[11:09] <[Saint]> But the key seems to be if they ask for shipping details, you're in.
[11:09] <rymate1234> maybe i should try again? :p
[11:09] <[Saint]> A few people I'm aware of just got a "hey, thanks for your interest in this" response.
[11:09] <[Saint]> No offer. No request. Nothing.
[11:09] <[Saint]> Just a thanks.
[11:10] <[Saint]> rymate1234: Well...I was slightly naughty, and requested quite a few, so, maybe? ;)
[11:10] <rymate1234> lmao
[11:10] <rymate1234> great im trying again
[11:10] <rymate1234> i have another email i can use
[11:10] * [Saint] nods
[11:11] <[Saint]> that's all I did. I didn't even change the name.
[11:11] <[Saint]> Just the email addy.
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[11:14] <rymate1234> ok registered
[11:15] <rymate1234> "Thank you for signing up for the Windows Developer Program for IoT. We’ll let you know when we have more to share."
[11:15] <rymate1234> ._.
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[11:15] <[Saint]> Odd.
[11:15] <rymate1234> maybe they hate the uk
[11:16] <[Saint]> Well, NZ is "Mini-UK", so if that's the case, they hate us by extension.
[11:16] <rymate1234> lmao
[11:16] <rymate1234> maybe they just hate me
[11:17] <[Saint]> It seems likely.
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[11:17] <rymate1234> is there a combination of programming languages and ides they like?
[11:17] <rymate1234> :p
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[11:18] <rymate1234> ill wait a few hours
[11:18] <[Saint]> Its possible. Unfortunately (for the wellbeing of my soul), I could confidently tick all of them.
[11:18] <rymate1234> see if they give me shipping details
[11:19] <rymate1234> if not i'll use my icloud email
[11:19] <rymate1234> xD
[11:19] <rymate1234> no wait
[11:19] <rymate1234> i have a microsoft email
[11:19] <rymate1234> theyll love that
[11:19] <rymate1234> xd
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[11:22] <[Saint]> Hmmmm.
[11:23] * [Saint] makes a note to keep track of the German and Argentinian birth rates in the next 9 months.
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[11:25] <Encrypt> [Saint], :p
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