#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-07-19

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[0:00] <Bob13> snuggyfoo, one question, it asks me for a static IP, should I add the 192.168.0.13 one yes ?
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[0:03] <snuggyfoo> The dynamic ip service is to make it easier to connect through your router from the outside. It's likely that every time you disconnect and reconnect your internet, your ISP gives you a new IP.
[0:03] <snuggyfoo> So that way your new ip is associated with whatever domain you choose from no-ip. If that makes sense...
[0:05] <snuggyfoo> What router do you have?
[0:05] <snuggyfoo> Make sure you have dynamic dns capabilities on your router, if not then you may want to skip that and just enter the ip in
[0:05] <Bob13> TP-link, but how does the no-ip service knows my new ip ?
[0:07] <snuggyfoo> I have it on my router to check the ip for changes, once it does it reassociates with my no-ip domain
[0:07] <snuggyfoo> so no mater what when I go to my.domain.org (not the real domain) it will go to whatever IP address my ISP has assigned me
[0:10] <Bob13> snuggyfoo, now I get it, thanks. I've managed to forward the 22 port
[0:10] <Bob13> I think
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[0:11] <snuggyfoo> cool. I think there are sites out there to see if port 22 is accessible
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[0:11] <snuggyfoo> that might be blocked by the router, probably
[0:11] <Bob13> snuggyfoo, I've managed to connect to my pi through the external ip
[0:12] <Bob13> now I'll try to associate my ip with a domain
[0:12] <Bob13> thank you again
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[0:12] <snuggyfoo> no problem
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[0:13] <PovAddictW> opinions about this kit? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G1PNG54/
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[0:15] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't buy it
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[0:17] <ShorTie> get 1 with the new and improved B+ at least
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[0:18] <doctorpenguin> how much memory does the B+ have?
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[0:18] <PovAddictW> same as B
[0:18] <doctorpenguin> why the +?
[0:18] <ShorTie> 512, just like B
[0:19] <ShorTie> for the many other improvements i guess
[0:21] <doctorpenguin> idk, same memory, same default clock speed, almost the same price... whats different?
[0:21] <doctorpenguin> difference*
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[0:21] <MY123> PovAddictW: Don'y buy that kit. It has a crap breadboard(without ground rail, which is at best, inadequate for beginners)and have high-current LEDs , would like to see how the GPIO would behave.
[0:21] <ShorTie> better power circuitry, 4 usb ports
[0:22] <PovAddictW> doctorpenguin: there's a reason they call it B+ and not C
[0:22] <MY123> doctorpenguin: better audio, three I2C busses.
[0:23] <doctorpenguin> I'm sure if someone really wanted too they could solder on an extra usb bus
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[0:23] <doctorpenguin> no offense
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[0:24] <ShorTie> given enough time, money and effort, you can do anything
[0:24] <MY123> doctorpenguin: Not possible. Would need a new PCB, M. Realname (you have realname as name in IRC whois)
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[0:25] <doctorpenguin> me, my123?
[0:25] <doctorpenguin> whos M?
[0:26] <PovAddictW> Mr?
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[0:26] <MY123> doctorpenguin: See Mr Realname, your IRC name in your client is realname.
[0:27] <doctorpenguin> is that a user?
[0:27] <ShorTie> y 4 you whois'n peeps MY123, that is not really nice at all
[0:28] <doctorpenguin> lol, MY123 ... NL, the Netherlands
[0:28] <doctorpenguin> I was there last year. I went to Amsterdam.
[0:29] <MY123> ShorTie: My IRC client is set up to see names not pseudonyms, Daily.
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[0:31] <MY123> Whois response for doctorpenguin : Name: realname( authed as doctorpenguin )
[0:31] <doctorpenguin> why would I care?
[0:32] <doctorpenguin> its not a real name
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[0:32] <MY123> doctorpenguin: No, just have more expected a realname same as your account name, in that case.
[0:33] <ShorTie> then do you like my real name ??
[0:33] <ShorTie> Laughs Out Loud
[0:34] <ConnerHunt> hmmph
[0:34] <MY123> ShorTie: Your username in your computer is "Idiot" , isn't that related with what you say?
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[0:35] <MY123> Sorry, ShorTie , but a joke.
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[0:35] <MY123> That is true.
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[0:39] <P33M> "solder on an extra USB bus"
[0:40] <P33M> i cannot withhold my mirth
[0:40] <PovAddictW> lolwut
[0:41] <MY123> P33M: Impossible without a new chip , or a not so good joke.
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[0:41] <P33M> hence mirth
[0:41] <PovAddictW> I had to look up mirth
[0:42] <MY123> Bit-banging USB is not for mortals, P33M, also.
[0:43] <P33M> you could probably do a full-speed bus using the ARM
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[0:43] <P33M> *all* of the arm
[0:44] <MY123> P33M: USB3 *may* be doable using the VPU.
[0:44] <P33M> er no
[0:44] <P33M> 5gbps serial comms aint gonna happen with any bit bash ever
[0:45] <MY123> P33M: shiftplusone works about general-purpose data on CSI and DSi , true that the speeds would be only 3 GBps.
[0:45] <P33M> you do realise the overhead required to encode a USB3 packet, right
[0:46] <MY123> P33M: Processing packets using the QPUs.
[0:47] <P33M> csi/dsi are dedicated serialiser/deserialiser peripherals - essentially gigantic state machines that take data and pump them out over some specification-dependent implementation of high-speed differential signalling
[0:48] <P33M> in CSI's case, the source is a camera frame
[0:48] <P33M> in DSI's case, the source is an arbitrary memory buffer
[0:48] <MY123> P̂33M: @ shiftplusone is working on getting arbitrary data on CSI.
[0:49] <PovAddictW> huh, I missed MY123's comment about my kit link
[0:49] <P33M> most of BCM2835 runs at 250MHz - only the AR
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[0:49] <P33M> *M runs at 700
[0:49] <PovAddictW> MY123: what's a ground rail?
[0:49] <P33M> rub a cat then poke a radiator
[0:50] <P33M> if you get a numb finger, then the radiator is a satisfactory ground
[0:50] <PovAddictW> hmm
[0:50] <PovAddictW> so I should get a cat along with this kit?
[0:50] <PovAddictW> :)
[0:50] <MY123> PovAddictW: If you don't know what does mean ground in electronics, it is better for trying using Adruino as it is cheaper and you can break dozens.
[0:51] <PovAddictW> I know what's ground, I already have an electronics kit with a breadboard and I didn't blow up anything yet
[0:51] <P33M> yes
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[0:51] <P33M> cats are required in all electronic endeavours
[0:52] <ShadowJK> rpi+arduino isn't bad combo. rpi for processing heavy stuff, arduino for I/O.
[0:52] <P33M> if only as a control voltage
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[0:53] <PovAddictW> last I looked online there was nothing about my electronics kit, now there's people selling them off on mercadolibre
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[0:53] <MY123> PovAddictW: Try to plug a GPIO pin to ground.(try that on a cheap platform to not lose lots of money)
[0:53] <MY123> * with the pull-up resistors disabled.
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[0:54] <shiftplusone> MY123, can you stop highlighting me?
[0:54] <MY123> shiftplusone: I can, but your project is interesting and started V3D support for Freeblob.
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[0:56] <PovAddictW> MY123: I don't yet own any device with such thing as a GPIO pin :P
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[0:57] <MY123> P33M: Currently working on 10Gbps serial UART port silicon.
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[0:58] <MY123> PovAddictW: So try plugging the + pin of a battery to the -.it is the same thing.
[0:58] <PovAddictW> why?
[0:59] <MY123> PovAddictW: To learn that the - pin of the battery is ground. Have you a diode?
[1:00] <PovAddictW> I know that much
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[1:00] <PovAddictW> I don't know what a ground *rail* on a breadboard is, also note english is not my native language
[1:00] <P33M> 10gbps uart
[1:00] <P33M> riiiiiiight
[1:01] <mythos> that's the new kind of uart
[1:02] <mythos> it also can do your laundry
[1:02] <MY123> P33M : Disclaimer, I may finish the Verilog code and release it or not, it is just a project, but can only produce 2Gbps on my FPGA(130nm).
[1:03] <P33M> git gud
[1:03] <P33M> modern fpgas are 28nm
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[1:03] <MY123> P33M: They are a bit expensive.
[1:04] <P33M> surely you can mine bitcoin to compensate for the extravagance
[1:04] <LostBoyNZ> Has anyone had any luck with PCT running on Rpi?
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[1:05] <MY123> P33M: You lose more in electricity than you win in BTC.
[1:06] <PovAddictW> unless you're gambling on the bitcoin price going up in the future - but then you should just buy bitcoins instead of mining them
[1:08] <MY123> And also doesn't want a as big UART core as a Cortex-M4 with a 5 watt thermal dissipation (due to crazy frequencies). It would be very hard to sell it, because there is already, "Ethernet".
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[1:10] <MY123> A 32-pin parallel port is better suited, P33M.
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[1:12] <MY123> And NO harddisk can saturate the IDE interface... It is just marketting. (Except for SSDs)
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[1:15] <MY123> PovAddictW: A ground rail is composed of some pins that are... grounds.
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[1:20] <ShadowJK> In sequential, you can saturate ide
[1:24] <MY123> ShadowJK: Currently , if you plug two HDDs into the same PC. And I'm talking about the 1999 rev. .
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[1:26] <ShadowJK> Well, IDE scaled to 133Mb/s on the bus
[1:26] <ShadowJK> And harddrives were able to saturate that in large sequential operations
[1:26] <ShadowJK> right before the sata switchover :)
[1:27] <ShadowJK> .. which was in fact ide harddrives behind sata-ide bridges
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[1:43] <MY123> ShadowJK: But slower than IDE because of the bridge.
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[2:28] <McBride36> i've just got my raspberry pi, i'd like to learn how to use the command line instead of resorting to the GUI in raspbian. does anyone have any suggestions on where to start?
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[2:29] <almostworking> one of the higher rated books on BASH shell. rasbian is debian right?
[2:29] <McBride36> yup
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[2:30] <almostworking> yea, bash shell book i have one from O Rielly , however thats spelled, and if ur into it, AWK and SED can do some imrepssive stuff with them
[2:30] <almostworking> too
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[2:33] <McBride36> AWK, SED?
[2:33] <mfa298> learning to use the command line is a bit of an open ended thing.
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[2:33] <mfa298> awk and sed are useful tools for processing text.
[2:33] <McBride36> yeah, i'd assume i need somethin' to work towards
[2:34] <McBride36> instead of just yoloing it
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[3:34] <The_HunterT> Hello
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[3:47] <blockh34d> can i take informal poll about nation of origin here?
[3:47] <blockh34d> curious which languages i should translate my app into first
[3:48] <blockh34d> its for raspberry pi so i figure this is a good place to check
[3:49] <The_HunterT> English is most common on the internet, followed by German.
[3:50] <MY123> blockh34d: You can use any language which is Open-Source and works for Linux.
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[3:51] <MY123> blockh34d: The D language is good to begin. Less broken than C++ and there is the gdc compiler which works on a Pi.
[3:51] <blockh34d> MY123: the app is already written in python, i'm creating string tables for users of the app in non-english languages
[3:52] <blockh34d> The_HunterT: ah german would be a good choice then.. To test the translation process i have already translated it to russian with some help from irc. German sounds good (half done already too from an earlier test). Any other suggestions after that? Maybe french?
[3:52] <blockh34d> Or i guess spanish also good
[3:53] <The_HunterT> Spanish
[3:53] <MY123> blockh34d: Does it use endianness and is Python3?
[3:53] <blockh34d> MY123: its python 2.7
[3:53] <blockh34d> dont know what endianness means
[3:53] <blockh34d> all strings are unicode
[3:53] <MY123> blockh34d: I can be a French or Arabic translator.
[3:53] <blockh34d> MY123: wow that would be great, i'll let you know when i have my worksheet ready
[3:54] <blockh34d> i keep addiung new entries, i'd like to have it all ready for one-pass usage
[3:54] <blockh34d> maybe 40 words / button labels now
[3:54] <[Saint]> Just make a template on Google SHeets and add invitation only editing.
[3:54] <blockh34d> the app is Scamp btw, in Pi store
[3:54] <[Saint]> Crowdsource that shizzle, yo.
[3:54] <MY123> blockh34d: So upload it into the Pi, and run python. No modification needed.
[3:54] <blockh34d> yah thats the plan but so far i've been using codepad
[3:54] <[Saint]> Ah.
[3:54] <blockh34d> MY123: i made it on the pi. I'm on a pi right now
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[3:55] <blockh34d> once i get my process worked out, i hope to have maximum translation worked out, 30+ languages at least
[3:55] <blockh34d> still getting the keyboard shortcut mapping worked out too
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[3:56] * [Saint] sets to work _completely_ ripping off Material Design for another project
[3:56] <blockh34d> MY123: do you ahve an arabic keyboard available?
[3:56] <[Saint]> "The UI that NEVER ENDS."
[3:57] <blockh34d> i havent tried that one yet, sounds neat [Saint]
[3:57] <MY123> blockh34d: It is better to try a native language, or even VPU or QPU code for performance.
[3:58] <MY123> blockh34d: Yes have an Arabic keyboard.
[3:58] <[Saint]> Better is subjective. Its better to work with what you're comfortable with.
[3:58] <[Saint]> Like Python? Use Python.
[3:58] <The_HunterT> python bores me now
[3:59] <The_HunterT> That being said, it's an awesome languge and I love it.
[3:59] <MY123> [Saint]: CPython is dog slow. Using Unladen Swallow can be faster, but not sure if it is ARM capable.
[3:59] <blockh34d> I like python on pi since theres no real compilation overhead
[3:59] <blockh34d> if you're working on the pi that is
[4:00] <MY123> blockh34d: There is a 12times faster C compiler, bellard.org/tcc/ .
[4:00] <[Saint]> using non-standard compilers is just asking for trouble.
[4:00] <The_HunterT> ^
[4:00] <[Saint]> You may as well just kick yourself in the face ever day.
[4:01] <blockh34d> MY123: latest screen shot in russian http://postimg.org/image/zecp7dz23/
[4:02] <blockh34d> still trying to figure out how scrollbars and certain things are arranged in arabic outputs
[4:03] <blockh34d> is the scrollbar typically on the left in arabic windows?
[4:03] <blockh34d> should my 'next/previous' buttons maybe be switched left/right?
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[4:04] <MY123> blockh34d: Your app is console. Arabic is always on the left for scroolbars,and reversed order for buttons.
[4:04] <blockh34d> MY123: are there no arabic console apps?
[4:05] <blockh34d> MY123: seems reasonable to me to think it can display the characters, its unicode, i think theres 100k+ characters and more daily
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[4:05] <MY123> blockh34d: I'm halfway porting Python to Freeblob. Arabic console apps, possible but anyone never tried.
[4:05] * [Saint] actually does a lot of UI localization work and suggest reading the extensive documentation provided by the Chromium project on locale specific rendering
[4:06] <blockh34d> MY123: yeah its kind of a lower priority to me since its such a substantial change of arrangement but its not impossible, someday if i have enough time it could be done
[4:06] <blockh34d> [Saint]: great thanks will do
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[4:06] <[Saint]> Happy trails.
[4:06] <blockh34d> soon i hope to have my app read in the locale setting at startup and try to reskin the app to that locale automagically but thats a ways off
[4:06] <[Saint]> ...localization can be...errr...fun. ;)
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[4:07] <blockh34d> yeah i know, just getting curses and russian to play along nice was a trick
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[4:07] <blockh34d> but in the end it was mostly PEBKAC error
[4:07] <MY123> blockh34d: Does your app using network or an antenna?
[4:07] <blockh34d> MY123: it can
[4:07] <blockh34d> MY123: or can play from usb/local
[4:07] <blockh34d> samba etc
[4:08] <blockh34d> thhe version on pistore is kinda out of date, as soon as i get a couple last wrinkles ironed out of my working ocpy i'll post it, its got lots of new features
[4:08] <blockh34d> just added editable playlists, playlist tabs, user assignable playlist tabs, rescannable playlists, and multi-language capability
[4:09] <blockh34d> also now you can use it up to three instances at a time and they all mix together
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[4:09] <MY123> blockh34d: Is it fast?
[4:09] <blockh34d> through ssh needed
[4:09] <blockh34d> super fast
[4:09] <blockh34d> its console, thats why its console
[4:09] <blockh34d> i think the ui amounts to 0.3%cpu
[4:10] <blockh34d> plays 1080p video fullscreen, barely uses 30% cpu since its using omxplayer, so almost all of that is omxplayer anyways
[4:10] <blockh34d> and omxplayer use gpu to decode so it does a great, best imo, great job
[4:11] <blockh34d> actually i play 3 1080p videos at a time sometimes stress testing it, all windowed in seperate regions of the screen, barely uses 80% cpu once its buffered, plays them all lovely
[4:11] <blockh34d> multiple isntances is a new feature though, not on pistore yet
[4:14] <blockh34d> ok so my first languages are going to be english, russian, german, french, and spanish...any glaring ommissions? maybe italian?
[4:15] <blockh34d> after that i'll crowd source it
[4:16] * [Saint] needs to get around to wrapping a CLI UI around Rockbox's Warble playback library
[4:17] <[Saint]> All our codecs are *extensively* ARM optimized.
[4:18] <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison
[4:18] <blockh34d> yah i plan to write my own replacement to omxplayer soon, i need better control of playback rate
[4:18] <[Saint]> even our old numbers are bloody impressive
[4:18] <blockh34d> nice
[4:19] <[Saint]> flac_8.flac 7092.74% realtime Decode time - 2.48s 10.83MHz 211.69%
[4:19] <blockh34d> does that ui look nice? suggestions for usability?
[4:19] <blockh34d> i can post it in english, probably helps
[4:19] <[Saint]> lame_320.mp3 2732.29% realtime Decode time - 6.44s 28.11MHz 136.65%
[4:19] <[Saint]> muhuhaha
[4:19] <blockh34d> wow thats sweet
[4:20] <[Saint]> Hmmm. That doesn't include any of our libopus stuff either.
[4:20] <blockh34d> maybe you could help me with a mp3/wav/etc player that i can use in place of omxplayer for audio files
[4:21] <blockh34d> itd need to be commandline and provide a bit of console output about position of playback, and take the same keyboard input files as omxplayer (i can take care of that though)
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[4:22] <LostBoyNZ> Anyone had any luck getting popcorntime running on RPi?
[4:22] <The_HunterT> Is there a command line creator for Python?
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[4:25] <blockh34d> http://postimg.org/image/tjxrycz4n/ english version of UI
[4:25] <blockh34d> LostBoyNZ: yes theres popcorn time on PI in i think xbmc, and as soon as possible it will be in Scamp, my app
[4:25] <blockh34d> it is two entries down my to do list
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[4:26] * [Saint] nods
[4:26] <[Saint]> XBMC have a popcorntime plugin
[4:26] <[Saint]> ISPs are having fun with that whole mess...heh.
[4:27] <[Saint]> (if you get the temptation to try running it over Tor, I'll punch you in the bum)
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[4:29] <blockh34d> soon i think scamp will have something like qbittorrent as a plugin, also youtube-dl interface/manager
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[4:30] <blockh34d> the torrent plugin i may skip depending on how popcorn-time goes
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[6:25] <AliG1000> I am a noob with RPi. When the power is turned on, can I have it auto-load an installed program?
[6:26] <[Saint]> for a particular user, or system wide?
[6:27] <AliG1000> system wide
[6:27] <[Saint]> either is possible, it just changes how you'd do it.
[6:27] <AliG1000> actually, I don't know :)
[6:28] <[Saint]> Make an init script in /etc/init.d/
[6:29] <AliG1000> I have an application for buses. From time to time, the driver will turn off the engine. I plan to use a UPS to safely shut-down the machine, but I would like to it boot up properly and into the right program
[6:29] <[Saint]> AH, right. Then assumedly its booting into a user instance.
[6:30] <AliG1000> Probably :) Brand new at this.
[6:31] <AliG1000> My only other concern is connecting the RPi up the electronics of the bus
[6:31] <[Saint]> In that case, the $user's ~/.bashrc is likely your friend
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[6:46] <DanDare> AliG1000, take a look at /etc/rc.local, its simpler I guess. At least for debian based stuff it works from there
[6:49] <[Saint]> rc.local isn't tolerant of errors, though.
[6:49] <[Saint]> need to set up some guarding if you're not confident of fail cases
[6:50] <DanDare> true... I usually just call scripts from there with "&" at the end of the line. so to free rc.local from possible trouble
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[6:56] <AliG1000> Has anyone connected a small touchscreen to their RPi?
[6:56] <[Saint]> Yep.
[6:56] <AliG1000> Did you have to use a separate power supply?
[6:57] <AliG1000> I understand that both USB and HDMI can supply power, but I don't know if the HDMI alone provides enough to run a small screen
[6:58] <DanDare> I think standard (normal) for USB2.0 is 0.5A
[6:59] <DanDare> hmm wait, rpi spec says power consumption is 700mA. So I may be wrong ...
[6:59] <[Saint]> I have used http://www.adafruit.com/products/1601 and http://www.chalk-elec.com/?page_id=1283#!/~/product/id=14647624
[6:59] <AliG1000> which is enough to run this http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-touch2
[6:59] <[Saint]> the latter requires its own PSU, but I wouldn;t call 10.1" "small". :)
[6:59] <[Saint]> The former is cute.
[6:59] <[Saint]> And works well.
[6:59] <[Saint]> (I just started using it the other day after buying it and having it sit there unused for over a week)
[7:00] <DanDare> pi came with ready to go drivers for TFT and DSI displays ?
[7:00] <[Saint]> The PiTFT module is very cute, and has space for adding little surface mount buttons to do arbitrary things.
[7:01] <[Saint]> I'm going to make a terribly impractical media player our of one.
[7:01] <AliG1000> :)
[7:01] <DanDare> well, bought pi today. preparing to have lots of fun in some days
[7:01] <[Saint]> https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-pitft-28-inch-resistive-touchscreen-display-raspberry-pi
[7:01] <[Saint]> this has everything you need to know about getting the TFT module working on the left side
[7:02] <AliG1000> So you can plug the small one directly into the Pi?
[7:02] <[Saint]> Yes. Off the GPIO
[7:03] <[Saint]> Installation is absolutely trivial.
[7:03] <[Saint]> The 10.1" touchscreen I purchased ages ago for my first raspi project now sits unused.
[7:04] <[Saint]> (making a tablet out of a pi is a crap, crap idea...)
[7:05] <AliG1000> I need to make a very simple dispaly. But I also need to incorporate GPS, mobile internet and a UPS
[7:06] <AliG1000> and idiot-proof
[7:06] <[Saint]> I don't think the raspi is the best board for this, personally.
[7:06] <[Saint]> You'll spend a heap adding GPS to this, whereas some boards have it (and many more sensors) embedded.
[7:06] <AliG1000> which one would you use? BeagleBone Black?
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[7:07] <blockh34d> http://www.geek.com/chips/oracle-offers-up-370-dukepad-diy-tablet-powered-by-raspberry-pi-1572081/
[7:07] <[Saint]> uuugh.
[7:07] <AliG1000> Can't I just add a GPS dongle to the USB port?
[7:07] <blockh34d> does seem pretty expensive for what you're getting there
[7:07] <blockh34d> like 'for the cost of 3 better tablets you could make this one'
[7:07] <almostworking> someone is doing a add on board via kickstarter, or something like that, with GPS and other stuff.
[7:08] <blockh34d> lol i think you're right [Saint]
[7:08] <almostworking> should be easy to find, via a search
[7:08] <blockh34d> i got a gps plugged in pretty easy
[7:08] <[Saint]> http://www.calao-systems.com/articles.php?lng=en&pg=6186
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[7:09] <[Saint]> Yes its end of line...but, that means...its cheap.
[7:09] <blockh34d> is tha ta snowball [Saint] or a new one?
[7:09] <[Saint]> Snowball.
[7:09] <[Saint]> They're still like $50 USD
[7:09] <blockh34d> ah yah looks really nice, scares me it not being supported/produced anymore
[7:10] <[Saint]> Yeah, that's somewhat of a concern, I guess.
[7:10] <[Saint]> Not for my uses, though.
[7:10] <blockh34d> for some stuff. ya
[7:10] <AliG1000> exactly. The benefit of RPi is that there are many about and a good community
[7:10] <blockh34d> also made by a nonprofit. i like that.
[7:10] <[Saint]> I purchased $30 of them and made them into mini-NAS/media centeres, banged them into a smart looking case, and made about $3K ;)
[7:11] <AliG1000> So, do you think I would be able to do this on a RPI? GPS, mobile internet (both USB dongles), UPS and a touchscreen?
[7:11] <[Saint]> errr, that first 30 isn't supposed to have a $
[7:11] <blockh34d> AliG1000: sounds doable to me
[7:11] <[Saint]> Not terrible cheap, but, doable.
[7:11] <blockh34d> it might not all plug in quite as cleanly as you'd like but i bet you could get that stuff working all at once
[7:12] <[Saint]> you'd absolutely need to put it all in a case, but that might screw you slightly for GPS line of sight.
[7:12] <[Saint]> Otherwise the USB ports are an obvious point of failure.
[7:12] <[Saint]> Take out a plug and the whole thing falls over.
[7:13] <AliG1000> yeah, I may have to add a GPS antenna.
[7:13] <AliG1000> It would be nicer without, but I can experiment with it
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[7:14] <[Saint]> (I suggested the Snowball as it has BT and WiFi, GPS, and a plethora of other useful sensors onboard.
[7:14] <almostworking> just to play devils advocate here, why not buy a nice Garmin GPS and use that? prob. cheaper.... and def. less time
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[7:15] <AliG1000> Because I have to send a signal back to a main server, and then send some information back, so that it can be displayed on the screen
[7:15] <almostworking> ok
[7:15] <AliG1000> And the driver can use the touchscreen to select the route he/she wil be travelling on
[7:16] <blockh34d> my gps module seems to work even without line of sight to clear sky
[7:16] <blockh34d> gets through ceiling/closed windows etc
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[7:17] <blockh34d> has ant hookup though, will probably end up using it eventually.. havent needed to yet though
[7:17] <AliG1000> copied from the Garmin site:
[7:17] <AliG1000> GPS satellites transmit two low power radio signals, designated L1 and L2. Civilian GPS uses the L1 frequency of 1575.42 MHz in the UHF band. The signals travel by line of sight, meaning they will pass through clouds, glass and plastic but will not go through most solid objects such as buildings and mountains.
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[7:17] <[Saint]> ...or the top of a bus.
[7:18] <blockh34d> AliG1000: yah mine is a really basic model, i forget maker but maybe sparkfun... it does get a signal anywhere in my house, fyi. not sure how, but there it is
[7:18] <AliG1000> It is not a deal-breaker with an antenna
[7:18] <blockh34d> sure, i bet with one involved its even easier to get a signal
[7:19] <blockh34d> or whatever you'd call it for gps
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[7:20] <AliG1000> Cool - I will see if I can get my hands on a Model B+ and have a play :)
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[7:22] <AliG1000> Oh, one other question...
[7:22] <AliG1000> How should I connect it to the bus?
[7:22] <[Saint]> Glue.
[7:23] <[Saint]> Heh...seriously, though, if its stable enough, just grab a 5V line right off the ignition accessory coil.
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[7:23] <[Saint]> You may need to measure it for jitter.
[7:23] <[Saint]> (to make sure the supply is clean)
[7:23] <[Saint]> That way, bus starts up...and bam, so does the raspi.
[7:23] <[Saint]> bus cuts power, so does raspi.
[7:24] <[Saint]> etc.
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[7:24] <AliG1000> hence the UPS
[7:24] * [Saint] nods
[7:24] <AliG1000> at least it can shut down safely
[7:24] <[Saint]> But, yeah, it'll essentially be handled exactly the same as a car stereo would be.
[7:24] <AliG1000> something like this: http://www.piups.net/
[7:24] <[Saint]> Right off the feed from 5V ignition accessory loop.
[7:25] <[Saint]> Or you could grab 12V and step down, if you need 12V elsewhere, etc.
[7:25] <[Saint]> Supplying power is the easy bit. :)
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[7:33] * [Saint] just found out that Ms. [Saint] hasn't seen An American Tail, Fievel Goes West, The Secret of NIMH, or Watership Down
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[7:33] <[Saint]> Its a travesty.
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[8:07] * [Saint] doesn't understand how his new housemate is even alive
[8:08] <[Saint]> If the time that I have spent with him is an accurate sample of usual behavior, all he consumes is 700ml cans of energy drink.
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[8:08] <[Saint]> (energy drink that is apparently capable of stripping paint, so says my bookshelf)
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[8:30] <gordonDrogon> morning.
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[8:31] <[Saint]> Lies!
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[8:33] <gordonDrogon> yea, know what you mean. feel terrible today.
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[8:36] <gordonDrogon> baking bread this morning. first time for a week.
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[8:38] <McBride36> anyone around willing to help me?
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[8:45] <gordonDrogon> just saw what the problem is.
[8:45] <gordonDrogon> *saw
[8:45] <gordonDrogon> aargh. say.
[8:45] <McBride36> lol. just trying to set up wifi on a pi via wifi dongle
[8:46] <McBride36> i've got it to scan
[8:46] <McBride36> but i can't exactly connect to a network. not sure how to go about doin' that
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[8:52] <DoctorPenguin> hey guys quick question. If I got 2 controllers registered on retropie. What do I have to do to have multiple configs for the +2 +3 controllers?
[8:53] <DoctorPenguin> do I add the controls to retroconfig and then add an extra index for each controller?
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[8:58] <DoctorPenguin> anyone know the answer?
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[9:18] <almostworking> hmmmm, bread
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[10:19] <[Saint]> Boooooooooooored.
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[10:28] * whiskers75 unbores [Saint]
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[10:37] * whiskers75 aims his low orbit cat cannon at SpeedEvil
[10:37] * whiskers75 fires cats
[10:38] * SpeedEvil is trying to avoid getting on roof and removing ridge tiles.
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[10:40] <mozzarella> SpeedEvil: bro, you're everywhere
[10:41] <SpeedEvil> Omnipresent, and omnipotent. Just ask the ladies.
[10:41] <mozzarella> you're in every room I'm in, almost
[10:42] <SpeedEvil> I'm only in 70 channels. (some of those are hidden and I don't monitor them)
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[10:44] <Davespice> guten morgan
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[10:46] <james_olympus> Good morning. I would like to use the serial console on a Pi without a screen, but don't have an FTDI cable. Could I connect the serial port on one Pi to the port on the other Pi (RX and TX lines swapped)?
[10:47] <P33M> yes. you need to run minicom or gtkterm on pi number 2, and disable the serial console on pi number 2.
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[10:47] <james_olympus> P33M: Thanks, I'll give that a go this morning
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[10:55] <Davespice> yeah its the getty line at the bottom of /etc/inittab that mentions /dev/ttyAMA0
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[11:01] <u-ou> whiskers75, pls
[11:01] <whiskers75> u-ou: pls
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[11:04] <james_olympus> Davespice: Is that in addition to removing references to ttyAMA0 from cmdline.txt?
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[11:06] * Davespice nods
[11:06] <u-ou> whiskers75: I can has B+ model?
[11:06] <james_olympus> Thanks :)
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[11:06] <whiskers75> u-ou: I don't even have a b+ myself
[11:06] <u-ou> they're new
[11:06] <whiskers75> ik
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[11:07] <whiskers75> u-ou: in what country do you live?
[11:08] <u-ou> i can find one
[11:08] <whiskers75> u-ou: wat
[11:08] <u-ou> ?
[11:09] <whiskers75> nvm
[11:09] <u-ou> :<
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[11:10] <Tinkerton> Hi folks
[11:10] <u-ou> whiskers75, pls
[11:10] <whiskers75> u-ou: what/!
[11:10] <whiskers75> s/\/?/
[11:10] <whiskers75> s/\//?/
[11:10] <u-ou> :|
[11:10] <whiskers75> u-ou: what is it?
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[11:11] <u-ou> nothing :/
[11:11] <whiskers75> u-ou: then why do you keep saying "pls"?
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[11:11] <u-ou> because that's what we do :I
[11:12] <whiskers75> u-ou: yes, but not excessively
[11:12] <whiskers75> meh
[11:13] <u-ou> ok
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[11:19] <zero_coder> hello
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[11:19] <zero_coder> i have connected an arduino with raspberry pi. but dmesg | tail doesnt show arduino in it
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[11:21] <mgottschlag> what does lsusb show?
[11:21] <ShorTie> and how did you connect the 2, there are different ways
[11:22] <zero_coder> usb
[11:23] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:9512 Standard Microsystems Corp.
[11:23] <zero_coder> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[11:23] <zero_coder> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp.
[11:23] <zero_coder> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC
[11:23] <zero_coder> ShorTie, usb
[11:23] <ShorTie> usb, it should be at /dev/ttyACM0 i believe
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[11:23] <mgottschlag> zero_coder: what mode did you choose in android?
[11:23] <zero_coder> but pi is not detecting arduino ShorTie
[11:24] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, android?
[11:24] <mgottschlag> argh
[11:24] <mgottschlag> I read android not arduino
[11:24] <mgottschlag> I am still too sleepy
[11:24] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, its okay :)
[11:24] <mgottschlag> yes, then it is /dev/ttyACM0 or /dev/ttyUSB0
[11:24] <mgottschlag> I actually usually have seen the second one
[11:24] <zero_coder> dmesg | tail should show it right?
[11:24] <mgottschlag> not necessarily
[11:24] <mgottschlag> just see whether /dev/ttyUSB0 exists
[11:25] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, yep
[11:25] <ShorTie> if you disconnect it and do a lsusb again does any thing disappear ??
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[11:26] <zero_coder> yep , future technology device international :P
[11:26] <ShorTie> so it is being seen
[11:26] <zero_coder> ShorTie, mgottschlag thanks :)
[11:27] <ShorTie> have you tried the arduino ide yet ??
[11:27] <zero_coder> ShorTie, yep. its working
[11:27] <zero_coder> but I havent tryied it in pi though
[11:28] <ShorTie> i just switched from usb to rx/tx for a arduino
[11:28] <zero_coder> ShorTie, why?
[11:28] <ShorTie> luckly without letting the smoke out, lol.
[11:28] <zero_coder> lol
[11:29] <ShorTie> cause i need more power then the usb will furnish and plugging a different ps doesn't seem to do any thing
[11:29] <zero_coder> hmm
[11:30] <ShorTie> and sumfin still seems wrong .. :(~
[11:30] <zero_coder> ShorTie, arduino duimilanouve doesnt work with arduino library of pi?
[11:30] <ShorTie> plug my other nh3 sensor in and it shuts down
[11:31] <zero_coder> :P
[11:31] <ShorTie> oh i have no idea, never heard of duimilanouve
[11:31] <zero_coder> ShorTie, nanpy.serialmanager.SerialManagerError: Serial timeout!
[11:31] <zero_coder> thats the error
[11:32] <ShorTie> have you disabled getty and stuff ??
[11:33] <zero_coder> nope.
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[11:34] <zero_coder> ShorTie, ?
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[11:34] <ShorTie> need to rem out like the last line of /etc/inittab and play in cmdline.txt and then install minicom for it to work
[11:35] <zero_coder> sorry .i didnt get you
[11:36] <ShorTie> take out 'console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200' from cmdline.txt
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[11:36] <zero_coder> cmdline.txt ?
[11:36] <ShorTie> this is 1 of many howto's out there
[11:36] <ShorTie> http://blog.oscarliang.net/raspberry-pi-and-arduino-connected-serial-gpio/
[11:37] <zero_coder> T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyAMA0 115200 vt100 ?
[11:37] <zero_coder> that one? ^^
[11:37] <ShorTie> ya
[11:37] <zero_coder> okay
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[11:39] <ShorTie> i think i need a better power supply .. :/~
[11:39] <zero_coder> still the same error shoots
[11:39] <ShorTie> the secret incoming volt meter says incoming voltage is all over the map, lol.
[11:40] <zero_coder> :P
[11:40] <zero_coder> lol
[11:40] <ShorTie> did you mod cmdline.txt too ??
[11:40] <ShorTie> then reboot
[11:41] <zero_coder> i forgot .
[11:41] <zero_coder> did now and reaabooting
[11:41] <zero_coder> 1 min .
[11:41] <ShorTie> tic-toc
[11:42] <zero_coder> python-serial :P
[11:43] <ShorTie> don't know much about the snake, i stay with C
[11:44] <zero_coder> C is too much of a drink for me . I stay simple :D
[11:45] <ShorTie> i migrated from basic and C seems simpler to me
[11:46] <ShorTie> basic, fortran and pascal actually
[11:46] <zero_coder> :P
[11:49] <ShorTie> incoming volts is flucuating between 5023 millivolts and 2443 millivolts, not real good, lol.
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[12:29] <gordonDrogon> there's a good basic-like language for the Pi you know - handles GPIO and everything :)
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[12:48] <Torbinho> ok again, is there a difference in the cases of the modell b and b+ ? i think so because of the usb slots etc
[12:51] <Tinkerton> Torbinho: i think so - it says the cases for the B and the A wont fit the B+
[12:53] <Torbinho> okay thx but i cannot found b+ cases on internet shops like amazon
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[12:59] <Tinkerton> it's still really new
[12:59] <Tinkerton> it'll probably take a while for cases to be available for them
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[13:03] <Torbinho> okay yeah i think so too. Thank you
[13:04] <[Saint]> The major players will have cases already.
[13:05] <[Saint]> Adafruit, Pimoroni et al.
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[13:06] <Torbinho> [Saint] thanks you are right, i found a case on adafruit
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[13:27] <mrmoney2012> hi chaps… i have a piglow on the header of a b+ and i want to add a PIR also…like this.. http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2013/01/cheap-pir-sensors-and-the-raspberry-pi-part-1/
[13:28] <mrmoney2012> however - for example pin 2 (5V) is already taken by the piglow of course - is there a way?
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[13:29] <mrmoney2012> i mean is 5V available on any of the additional (unobscured) pins on the B+ header
[13:29] <mrmoney2012> i guess not like this… http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Raspberry-Pi-GPIO-Layout-Model-B-Plus-312x1024.png
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[13:32] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, afraid not - only 0v/Gnd connections.
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> How good are you with a soldering iron?
[13:32] <mrmoney2012> thought so - thanks for confirmation
[13:32] <mrmoney2012> hehe. I am rubbish.
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> Ah.
[13:33] <mrmoney2012> not to worry, only fiddling about...
[13:33] <mrmoney2012> as usual
[13:33] <mrmoney2012> just got my B+
[13:33] <mrmoney2012> like it v much...
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[13:34] <gordonDrogon> you could ... not sure I'd recommend it .... bend out one of the 5v pins on the GPIO connector, then attach a jumper wire to that. However it might be prone to breaking off & you'd need to make sure tha the PiGlow used both 5v pins and not just one - or if it used one then to work out which one its using.
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[13:35] <mrmoney2012> oh -i see.. you mean as there are two 5 v pins in the top right of the header
[13:35] <mrmoney2012> and the piglow is presumably using one of them
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[13:38] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[13:38] <gordonDrogon> and because they're on the outside, you might be able to bend one out.
[13:38] <gordonDrogon> the piglow would still a little higher on the pins but ought to be fine.
[13:39] <gordonDrogon> actually, the piglow has a low-profile 26-way header, so should fit the same as it doesn't go fully down.
[13:41] <pksato> and if hook a wire on pin? like as wire wrapping.
[13:42] <NGC3982> Does the RPI (using Raspbian) usually timeout wifi connection? I have no contact with the RPI, until i try to connect (or ping to) it a few times before connecting.
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> pksato, can probably juse push on a normal female jumper cable.
[13:44] <gordonDrogon> NGC3982, not sure about this, but check things like power saving mode on the wifi access point and the one you're using on the Pi. I think I read something about it, but not 100% sure.
[13:44] <NGC3982> I see. It feels like it.
[13:44] <NGC3982> The time i have to ping it is very consistent, and it feels more like a feature than an error.
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[14:00] <BillyZane> hmm
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[14:04] <gordonDrogon> hmm, indeed.
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[14:08] <NGC3982> The thing is, i think i will install the tellstick on my openelec (XBMC) RPI unit instead
[14:08] <NGC3982> but then, i need to find out how to install everything on an openelec system.
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[14:54] <zero_coder> hello
[14:54] <zero_coder> ShorTie, i cant still get it working
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[15:36] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: pushing on female jumper - works great ! :-)
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[15:41] <zero_coder> mrmoney2012, hello
[15:42] <mrmoney2012> hi
[15:42] <zero_coder> mrmoney2012, have u used a arduino with a rpi?
[15:42] <mrmoney2012> nope..
[15:42] <zero_coder> mrmoney2012, okay . thanks anyway :)
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[15:51] <mgottschlag> zero_coder: what's your current problem?
[15:51] <mgottschlag> and your current setup?
[15:53] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, the program doesnt switch on the led
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[15:56] <zero_coder> mgottschlag,?
[15:57] <mgottschlag> zero_coder: obviously, that was not an answer to the questions :)
[15:57] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, oh okay. sorry
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[15:58] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, well, rpi connected to the arduino over usb , and trying to get the led high using nanpy (python)
[15:58] <mgottschlag> did you flash the nanpy firmware to the arduino>
[15:58] <mgottschlag> ?
[15:58] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, nope. i have to do that?
[15:59] <mgottschlag> http://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-Raspberry-Pi-Internet-Radio/step4/Put-the-nanpy-Firmware-on-the-Arduino/
[15:59] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, sorry. i didnt see it in the other tutorial
[15:59] <zero_coder> i will do it now
[15:59] <iceCalt> screwing open a not working hdd is fun
[16:00] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, another thing is my board is not uno, its duimilanoev
[16:00] <mgottschlag> zero_coder: btw, it took me less than 10s to find out, even though I have no idea what nanpy is - you might want to look at more than just one tutorial if you have problems
[16:00] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, okay . i will
[16:00] <zero_coder> have been looking at many
[16:01] <mgottschlag> nanpy should work with the uno
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[16:01] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, mine is a duemilanove
[16:01] <mgottschlag> ah, that way round
[16:02] <zero_coder> :P
[16:02] <mgottschlag> well, no idea then
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[16:03] <mgottschlag> but they should not be very different, so it should be simple to rebuild the firmware
[16:03] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, okay . letme try :)
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[16:22] <zero_coder> mgottschlag, got it working
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[16:44] <iceCalt> One question
[16:44] <iceCalt> So I just physically destroyed my broken hdd. I have three shiny, bend disks here.
[16:44] <iceCalt> That's where the data is on, right?
[16:45] <Tenchworks> the "platters" (golden donut thingys) are what the data is stored on
[16:45] <Tenchworks> so that should be a yes
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[16:47] <Tenchworks> if your trying to destroy data for whatever reason, I'd sugguest taking a strong magnet to the platters that will help reduce attempts to recover data from them should an advesery get thier hands on the broken pieces
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[16:47] <gregor3005> hi, i made a mistake on my raspbian installation and tried to downgrade the kernel. now the system won't boot. is it possible to chroot into the system from my normal computer (64bit-cpu) ? i tried like on normal linux distributions but it doesn't work like expected
[16:48] <gregor3005> the system is rapbian on the rpi and ubuntu on my machine
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[16:48] <iceCalt> Tenchworks, i have two magnets from the hdd itself
[16:49] <iceCalt> Tenchworks, by breaking them free from the thing I scratched them very good
[16:49] <iceCalt> I'm going to see how I can break them into two pieces in a few days
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[16:50] <gregor3005> i got it with qemu-user-static
[16:51] <pksato> gregor3005: just copy original kernel to sd card fat partition.
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[16:51] <Tenchworks> iceCalt, you can rub those magnets over the platters. keep in mind that hard disks work by magnetically writing the data to the platter, so even is the platters are physically damaged, the data can still be potentially recovered
[16:52] <iceCalt> Thank you. I will look later for other magnets I have lying around somewhere. Should I cook other devices in tomate juice next time, Tenchworks ?
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[16:53] <Tenchworks> iceCalt, I've seen computers that have been pulled out of the remains of burned down buildings, sent to companies that specialize in recovery and have nearly all the data recovered. and those machines where just husks of metal...
[16:53] <Tenchworks> iceCalt, not sure if the tomato juice would matter
[16:54] <iceCalt> Oh. Then I will rub the magnets over them multiple times
[16:54] <iceCalt> Tomate juice for non-magnetical hdds
[16:54] <iceCalt> Like sata, ssds, usb sticks etc
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[16:55] <Tenchworks> iceCalt, at work we just take a strong magnet hooked to an old car battery to any drive we are recycling, though I don't know how one would go about nuking data off a non-magnetic disk
[16:56] <iceCalt> Hm. I don't think I'd have the same method available as you. But I will consider pulling a magnet over the disks several times will help my case.
[16:56] <iceCalt> Then I might consider throwing them into different lakes or rivers
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[17:00] <lost_soul> :o mother nature would not approve of such disposal tactics
[17:01] <iceCalt> Somewhere I need to start Kappa
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[17:03] <iceCalt> Alright. Just sweeped the magnets on all disks
[17:03] <iceCalt> I think I can sleep much better tonight.
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[17:05] <SpeedEvil> If you've removed the disks, and they're now dirty,they are practically impossible to recover from without spending at least tens of thousands of dollars.
[17:06] <SpeedEvil> One tiny scratch means that you can't run them through a normal recovery process, and will need to spend hundreds of thousands to millions to recover.
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[17:08] <Tinkerton> the one time i had to securely destroy a hdd, i dismantled it, took the platters out, magnet wiped them
[17:08] <iceCalt_> SpeedEvil, there are several heavy scratches on all of them
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[17:08] <Tinkerton> and then drilled holes in the platters and bent them in two
[17:08] <Tinkerton> :D
[17:09] <iceCalt_> Disposing them each one different locations will help, too
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> Practically speaking, one data wiping pass removes all data, other than reallocated sectors
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> https://security.web.cern.ch/security/rules/images/overwriting-hard-drive-data.pdf is relevant
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[17:11] <iceCalt_> SpeedEvil, thanks. I'm going to read that before I go to sleep
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[18:33] <NGC3982> A good way to keep my apartment nice and warm is to make my Pi install scripts and scrape XBMC at the same time
[18:34] <NGC3982> it reaches 67C even with heatsinks.
[18:34] <iceCalt_> i need a fan
[18:34] <iceCalt_> 28c inside
[18:34] <iceCalt_> prolly a thousand times hotter outside
[18:36] <NGC3982> Indeed.
[18:36] <almostworking> i only use Pis as thin clients, using desktop as server .
[18:36] <NGC3982> I'm in southern Sweden. We are not known for extencive heat waves, but today it's >30C around here.
[18:36] <almostworking> which works well, esp if u need transcoding
[18:36] <almostworking> nice day then
[18:37] <almostworking> i use rasplex actually ----- which is very simular to the pi build for xbmc.
[18:37] <almostworking> ( rasplex is for Plex servers) its nice.
[18:40] <P33M> 29c indoors 28c outdoors, seems legit
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[18:47] <Tinkerton> NGC3982: do those tiny heatsinks even do anything?
[18:47] <NGC3982> Tinkerton: About 10C.
[18:48] <Tinkerton> hmm, not bad.
[18:48] <NGC3982> I actually experimented a bit with it, and in closed cases it does much on an non-default clocked RPI.
[18:48] <NGC3982> In oped un-overclocked enviroments, i guess nothing.
[18:48] <shiftplusone> Tinkerton, people report about 3 degrees difference
[18:48] <shiftplusone> if that
[18:48] <Tinkerton> oh, ok
[18:49] <shiftplusone> the thing is they go on top of the ram, which is... not very useful. Note that cooling of the pi is pretty useless overall. You don't go strapping fans or heatsinks to your phone, so why would you do that on a pi?
[18:49] <Tinkerton> why not? :D
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[18:50] <shiftplusone> because it screams "I have no idea what I am doing and I'm gullible)
[18:50] <shiftplusone> "
[18:50] <Tinkerton> fair enough :P
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[19:02] <almostworking> ha
[19:02] <almostworking> lol
[19:03] <almostworking> my pi works fine, and i think rasplex does twek the clock rate a bit , not sure, im very happy with it
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[20:58] <blockh34d> http://postimg.org/image/qsri3545p/ <- what would make this media player interface easier to use, or better in some way?
[20:58] <blockh34d> aside from graphics that is
[21:03] <almostworking> ton of pi media players and thin cliens now. ... i use rasplex.... ive not looked at the link, im in a couple other channels right now
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[21:05] <blockh34d> almostworking: yah i'm workin on scamp
[21:05] <blockh34d> its the only media player ui i've seen in pi store
[21:05] <blockh34d> well i guess therres that other one but it doesnt seem very usable
[21:05] <nerdboy> these videos play nice on rpi => http://playingforchange.com/episodes/la-bamba/
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[21:06] <blockh34d> my app is free btw, not for sale, just using pi store to keep it easy on people
[21:06] <blockh34d> i havent found many videos that dont play nice on pi
[21:06] <blockh34d> i play 1080p all day everyday, through the network
[21:07] <blockh34d> actually up to 3 at a time seem to run no problem
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[21:09] <blockh34d> just added a new feature so if you select files/folders in the file manager, copy, and then paste in scamp, it loads them all up into the playlist... not quite drag and drop (not realistic for console app, for me yet anyways), but almost as good
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[21:10] <nerdboy> blockh34d: what's behind that interface, what size display?
[21:10] <blockh34d> nerdboy: its a small window in my raspbian X desktop, on a 1080p tv
[21:10] <blockh34d> but you can also use the app through SSH
[21:10] <blockh34d> and soon through http
[21:11] <blockh34d> its console but the mouse still works (curses)
[21:11] <nerdboy> i have a nice small OS image build for rpi
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[21:11] <nerdboy> can we get married?
[21:11] <blockh34d> does it have python2.7 installed?
[21:11] <nerdboy> yup
[21:11] <blockh34d> sure thing
[21:11] <nerdboy> already have mpd/mpc lircd with remote
[21:11] <blockh34d> k, needs ffmpeg, omxplayer, i think gstreamer, figlet, wmctrl, and the pexpect python lib
[21:12] <nerdboy> need to try building omxplayer again
[21:12] <blockh34d> can you run the pistore?
[21:12] <nerdboy> maybe try oe-core instead
[21:12] <nerdboy> no idea
[21:12] <blockh34d> thats my install format so far
[21:12] <blockh34d> but i think soon i'll have a non-pistore based install for people
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[21:13] <blockh34d> as a fallbback plan... seems like a lot of people dont really use it for much, dont have it installed etc
[21:13] <nerdboy> https://github.com/sarnold/meta-alt-desktop-extras/wiki
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[21:13] <blockh34d> my projects page: http://store.raspberrypi.org/projects/scamp
[21:13] <nerdboy> usually build off poky/meta-openembedded master branches, but something weird happened in the X deps recently
[21:14] <blockh34d> i just added multi-language capabilities btw
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[21:14] <blockh34d> i have a screenshot of the same app in russian, sec
[21:14] <blockh34d> http://postimg.org/image/zecp7dz23/
[21:14] <nerdboy> plays audio to?
[21:14] <nerdboy> *too even
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[21:15] <blockh34d> yah, just added playlist file save/load/assign to tabs
[21:15] * nerdboy doesn't mess with raspbian/other much
[21:15] <blockh34d> so in that screen shot, the first leftmost tab is always there, but the others are based on the contents of users /.scamp/tabs folder, one tab per playlist
[21:15] <nerdboy> was working on supporting both weston and X
[21:16] <blockh34d> i've been focusing on raspbian, as a developer, since it seems like the 'default' for most rpi users
[21:16] <nerdboy> also running out of spare/fun time lately...
[21:16] <blockh34d> i want to start making sure i support arch better too soon, that seems like a close 2nd for most common in the wild
[21:16] <blockh34d> same
[21:16] <blockh34d> trying to get scamp done enough i can kinda forget about it
[21:16] <nerdboy> yeah, i'm doing OE/gentoo on a bunch of other arm stuff too
[21:16] <blockh34d> just now adding any ability to add to, remove from, rearrange, or save playlists
[21:17] <blockh34d> but its always been kinda optional
[21:17] <blockh34d> easiest way to use scamp = go to folder with media, type 'play', it finds it all and puts it in a playlist
[21:17] * nerdboy should probably stop playing with quad-cores and mainline kernels for a while...
[21:18] <blockh34d> or right click media in the mangager and click 'scamp'
[21:18] <nerdboy> playlist formats? read from saved mpd playlists?
[21:18] <blockh34d> but that way seems to get confused by the filemanager sometimes depending on what kind of multiple files you might have selected
[21:18] <blockh34d> it uses the winamp standard more or less
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[21:18] <blockh34d> i've created some custom options
[21:18] <blockh34d> i could look at supporting mpd lists though, maybe they're the same anyways
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[21:19] <nerdboy> m3u is pretty standard, what is winamp format?
[21:19] <blockh34d> soon there will be popcorn-time plugins, auto-rescan certain folders plugin, and a qbittorrent like plugin
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[21:19] <blockh34d> .pls
[21:19] <blockh34d> i'll support m3u, you're right thats the standard
[21:19] <blockh34d> i havent added it yet though
[21:20] <blockh34d> soon i want an ascii EQ visible too
[21:20] <nerdboy> well, i need to work on some missing X keyboard crap
[21:20] <blockh34d> but i'll have to write my own player core i think for that
[21:20] <nerdboy> exaile has about the best lightweight eq for me...
[21:21] <nerdboy> for desktop
[21:21] <blockh34d> cool hey if you want to bake scamp into your distro, sounds great just lemme know whatever i can do to help... check the pistore for latest release of scamp, very soon there is a huge update
[21:21] <nerdboy> i have some patches and extra crap though
[21:21] <blockh34d> also i'm still looking into a way to remotely define the lang def's file
[21:21] <blockh34d> so i can update that more often than the app, at first
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[21:22] <nerdboy> this runs a simple X desktop with some apps, but i use it headless in the car with a remote
[21:22] <blockh34d> nice, yah soon you'll be able to control scamp with gpio
[21:22] <nerdboy> also have some dev images, console images, etc
[21:22] <blockh34d> and also you can already control up to three isntances of it through a dbus-like interface in the /tmp folder
[21:22] <nerdboy> this is with the little IR sensor on GPIO
[21:23] <blockh34d> yah this'll totally support that soon
[21:23] <blockh34d> also alternate output modes including spoken outloud with espeak
[21:23] <nerdboy> but i'm adding the small TFT display next, so interfaces will be needed...
[21:23] <blockh34d> UI output modes that is
[21:23] <blockh34d> yes, supporting small alphanumeric displays is coming soon
[21:24] <blockh34d> tricky to pack it all in there but i think it can be done
[21:24] <nerdboy> not that small, the pibow touch screen or whatever
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[21:24] <blockh34d> oh not the 16x4 or whatever?
[21:25] <nerdboy> with its own case
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[21:25] <blockh34d> yah any at all reasonable display already works great
[21:25] <blockh34d> window 40x20 chars is enough
[21:25] <blockh34d> so you change font size to suit, good enough for lotta situations
[21:25] <nerdboy> can you file a qithub issue as reminder?
[21:25] <blockh34d> soon i'll have opengl interface skinning
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[21:26] <blockh34d> oh yah i'll give that a try... i'm actually a big old github newb
[21:26] <nerdboy> https://github.com/sarnold/meta-alt-desktop-extras/issues
[21:26] <blockh34d> i keep meaning to sort it out but ive been so busy
[21:26] <nerdboy> you can be the first one
[21:26] <blockh34d> k
[21:26] <nerdboy> gles2 you mean, right?
[21:27] <blockh34d> naturally
[21:27] <blockh34d> i've had great luck with gl on pi
[21:28] <blockh34d> i just call it all gl btw, i do mean gles2 though, of course
[21:28] <blockh34d> i have most of a multiplayer split screen deathmatch shooter game made
[21:28] <blockh34d> as soon as i have the network server made i'll start public beta testing
[21:29] <blockh34d> it gets 50+fps @ 1080p... i was really surprised. Thats split screen too, so basically drawing everything twice
[21:30] <blockh34d> done
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[23:38] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys I have been looking at asterisks for rpi, and I am wondering, Are you able to add voip line and "convert" it or make some sort of bridge to landline connection to the wall?
[23:39] <Demon_Jester> likeu sing magicjack or some sort of device?
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[23:55] <almostworking> there is quite a bit of info i found on SIP and PBX for rasp, pi searched for it about 2 months ago
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[23:56] <almostworking> not magic jack thou, but voipinfo.org, i think it is, has lots of info on VOIP providers, ur porb. gonna want APC UPS ( battery for the pi and ur router so it wont go down)
[23:56] <almostworking> i plan on it anywa, i have a maserswitc here now
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