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IRC Log for 2014-08-01

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[0:00] <steve_rox> anything fun going on?
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[0:08] <egradman> gordondrogon: have you ever played with NRF+ wireless modules (RF24 library) on a rpi?
[0:13] <gordonDrogon> egradman, no, sorrt.
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[0:19] <egradman> I got them working on an arduino yesterday. If I can get them working on the rpi as well… then goodbye xbee.
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[0:57] <Robert_pi> Can someone help me here? I'm trying to setup a wi-fi hotspot using the adafruit walkthrough, but the dhcp server failed the aptget
[0:57] <Robert_pi> http://susepaste.org/23244353
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[1:04] <plugwash> you probablly need to do as it suggests and check syslog
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[1:26] <MaX-BR> i am having issues again with my raspberry pi
[1:26] <MaX-BR> i am running raspbian and today my apt-get don't works
[1:27] <MaX-BR> i stop mysql service and don't starts again
[1:27] <MaX-BR> and probably if i reboot it, it will corrupt
[1:27] <MaX-BR> someone could help me?
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[1:28] <shiftplusone> eh? didn't we already conclude that mysql munches sd cards?
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[1:30] <MaX-BR> but i am running the system on an usb disk drive
[1:30] <MaX-BR> pendrive
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[1:31] <shiftplusone> it's the same technology
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[1:46] <DanDare> Hi. Im trying to compile a driver. Its a fresh install of raspbian-netinst. I have all the compiling tools installed, plus the matching linux-headers for actual kernel (3.12-1-rpi). Still no success. Im missing something? Any clue?
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[1:46] <DanDare> driver compiles ok in a standard Wheezy box I have
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[1:48] <shiftplusone> what error?
[1:50] <DanDare> shiftplusone, im compiling again because I flushed that already, sorry. But its some clueless error message (at least for me)
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[1:56] <MaX-BR> shiftplusone whats is munches sd cards?
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[1:59] <shiftplusone> MaX-BR, http://media.giphy.com/media/whNK1SAMSQjwQ/giphy.gif
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[2:00] <DanDare> shiftplusone, if you still up to that: 'make[3]: *** [_module_/root/DPO_MT7601U_LinuxSTA_3.0.0.4_20130913/os/linux] Error 2'
[2:01] <shiftplusone> DanDare, pastebin all the output
[2:01] <DanDare> make 'Error 2'
[2:01] <DanDare> oh damn, yeah ok.. dumb me. Didn't pipe that to file
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[2:01] <shiftplusone> believe it or not 'Error 2' is not the actual line I'm after >_<
[2:02] <DanDare> ok Sir
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[2:02] <DanDare> It will do it if I do 'make > out.txt' ?
[2:03] <DanDare> nah, that seem not be working properly
[2:03] <ShorTie> 'Error 2' tells Nothing
[2:03] <MaX-BR> shiftplusone maybe my problem is the mysql?
[2:04] <DanDare> agreed, managing to dump entire thing to a file http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/how-to-direct-output-from-make-to-a-file-208777/
[2:04] <shiftplusone> MaX-BR, that is what I have been getting at, yes.
[2:05] <shiftplusone> if you're just running 'make' chances are that you're doing it wrong, depending on the makefile
[2:05] <shiftplusone> that's not the standard way to compile modules out of tree
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[2:07] <DanDare> shiftplusone, im just doing 'make'. Though it worked on my standard wheezy box, like I said
[2:08] <DanDare> but I know, this is not a standard linux box :)
[2:08] <DanDare> *meant 'standard Wheezy' box
[2:08] <shiftplusone> it's close enough
[2:09] <shiftplusone> what it's not is a desktop pc, which some people try to treat it as, but that's not the problem here.
[2:10] <DanDare> ok
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[2:20] <DanDare> shiftplusone, finally: http://pastebin.com/uynQz7nj
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[2:22] <shiftplusone> the actual error /root/DPO_MT7601U_LinuxSTA_3.0.0.4_20130913/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.c:1121:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'int' from type 'kuid_t'
[2:23] <Robert_pi> YAY! It's a hot spot now!
[2:23] <DanDare> that's weird. Cant understand that. It looks obvious, but not considering I successfully compiled this same driver before
[2:24] <Robert_pi> had to compile the drivers but it is working!
[2:25] <shiftplusone> DanDare, you would need to actually dig into the source code and makefiles to figure out why... or send them an email... or see how far google can get you.
[2:25] <DanDare> shiftplusone, ok. thank you for helping
[2:25] <shiftplusone> I wasn't of any help, but you're welcome anyway, heh.
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[2:26] <ShorTie> this might help http://www.arnelborja.com/compiling-rt2870-wifi-driver-in-fedora/
[2:27] <DanDare> well, pointing it being a problem with the source code was help imo :)
[2:27] <DanDare> thanks ShorTie, will take a look (despite using raspbian here)
[2:27] <plugwash> DanDare, most likely it's a kernel version difference
[2:27] <shiftplusone> yeah, that looks promising, shorted_neuron
[2:27] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, *
[2:27] <plugwash> we use much newer kernels than debian wheezy does
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[2:28] <DanDare> plugwash, Im totally lost about it because i installed the matching packages for linux-headers, accordingly kernel version
[2:28] <DanDare> plugwash, what you mean is: source code was ok in old kernels but might be problematic against newer ones ?
[2:29] <ShorTie> that patch is not much at all
[2:29] <ShorTie> have you ever patched a source before ??
[2:29] <plugwash> yeah, most likely the driver doesn't get on with the newer kernel version
[2:30] <DanDare> I see
[2:30] <DanDare> thats a "problem" about using most recent stuff
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[2:30] <ShorTie> it just changes int to kuid_t or kgid_t
[2:30] <DanDare> i personally like the Debian way. old, but compatible and very stable
[2:31] <DanDare> from a regular user point of view, thats a good thing
[2:32] <DanDare> ShorTie, replacing 'kuid_t' for 'int' in the source code sounds like a good wild try ?
[2:34] <ShorTie> i'd follow the patch to the right spot, but ya it's a simple try
[2:34] <DanDare> http://www.arnelborja.com/compiling-rt2870-wifi-driver-in-fedora/ really explain it all, cool
[2:35] <DanDare> yeah the patch !!
[2:35] <ShorTie> patch < rt2870-mt7601Usta-kuid_t-kgid_t.patch
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[2:36] <DanDare> yeah, from that page you linked, got it
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[2:41] <DanDare> hmm, from the link, it says to install 'kernel-devel'. Thats for the 'patch' command? apt cant find kernel-dev but has the patch command
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[2:43] <DanDare> its just 'linux-image'
[2:43] <ShorTie> don't forget, that is a fedora howto, some names might be different
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[2:44] <ShorTie> or just hand edit rt_linux.h, it's just 2 things
[2:44] <DanDare> Yeah
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[2:45] <DanDare> ShorTie, out of curiosity now i will edit rt_linux.h and see how it goes
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[2:47] <Robert_pi> Ok I need a hand. I had the wifi working. Now it's not handing out an IP after the pi was rebooted
[2:48] <Robert_pi> http://susepaste.org/65480547
[2:48] <Robert_pi> that's the syslog
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[2:48] <Robert_pi> and the dhcpd.conf showing a subnet is set up
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[2:51] <DanDare> Robert_pi, did you tried the "please write a subnet declaration to which interface wlan0 is attached."
[2:51] <DanDare> oh, nvm
[2:51] <Robert_pi> what?
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[2:52] <DanDare> Robert_pi, nvm. you declared subnet already on the conf file (my mistake)
[2:52] <Robert_pi> ah
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[2:56] <DanDare> Robert_pi, quite old, but maybe of help: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/8614/isc-dhcp-server-install-and-run-problem
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[2:57] <DanDare> i had setup a machine as access point using hostapd package... trying it on the pi is on the todo list
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[3:05] <Robert_pi> DanDare: HUGE thanks!! That worked
[3:05] <DanDare> cool! np
[3:05] <Robert_pi> there's a link in that thead to http://sirlagz.net/2013/02/10/how-to-use-the-raspberry-pi-as-a-wireless-access-pointrouter-part-3b/
[3:05] <Robert_pi> that had the answer
[3:05] <Robert_pi> :o)
[3:05] <DanDare> :)
[3:06] <DanDare> also, good that I will grab that page also for future reference
[3:07] <lost_soul> anyone use the rtorrent addon for openelec on the Pi
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[3:07] <The_HunterT> I love having spotty internet access. That makes me so happy
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[3:18] <abnormal> Hi, there... I am on my RPi, and I have in the past been able to chat on the linuxmint channels in
[3:18] <abnormal> spot chat and as of lately I am not able to connect to the spotchat server... any ideas???
[3:19] <DanDare> abnormal, but thats not a RPi problem, sure ?
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[3:20] <abnormal> well in Midori I am able to get in that server
[3:21] <abnormal> Is it because of the parallax quick start app I installed?
[3:21] <DanDare> abnormal, and using what youre not able to ?
[3:21] <abnormal> xchat
[3:22] <abnormal> I am in xchat chatting u now...
[3:22] <DanDare> abnormal, maybe some temporary server problem there? You should look what the error message is from xchat
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[3:24] <abnormal> I can access this server and OFTC but not Spot Chat... I can access Spotchat thru Mibbit...
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[3:26] <abnormal> so, I wonder if the install of the quick start app messed up the ability to connect to spot chat server...
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[3:27] <DanDare> abnormal, it looks very strange that a completely not related package/program did that.
[3:28] <DanDare> abnormal, parallax quick start is just some app to interface hardware things with pi, right?
[3:29] <abnormal> I used apt-get install simpleide...
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[3:29] <abnormal> and that app works ok... I have to start it in terminal tho...
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[3:31] <abnormal> is there a better chat app than xchat for the pi?
[3:32] <DanDare> abnormal, not sure.. I just use xchat and like it
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[3:33] <DanDare> abnormal, take a look from repository what are the options for IRC programs
[3:33] <DanDare> besides xchat I know IRSSI exist. but its a client to run from the terminal
[3:33] <abnormal> yes, I love it but it won't allow me to connect to SpotChat server... I used irc.spotchat.org/6667
[3:34] <plugwash> what if any error did you get?
[3:34] <DanDare> abnormal, xchat will say to you why it's not connecting. Read whats displayed on the text window to discover whats going on
[3:34] <DanDare> abnormal, but if its working on other IRC servers, i doubt its a xchat problem but something else
[3:35] <abnormal> bad file descriptor?
[3:36] <abnormal> So I was wondering if installing simpleide had a similar file that would mess it up???
[3:37] <DanDare> abnormal, im not sure. it can be a xchat problem, but i have no clue
[3:37] <Robert_pi> I edited /etc/ssh/ssh_config and did a sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart but ssh is still listening on port 22 (vs the one i changed to in the config)
[3:38] <DanDare> Robert_pi, you need disconnect actual session. Other/future sessions will listen on the new port
[3:39] <abnormal> this is what it
[3:39] <DanDare> Robert_pi, anyway, the correct file is sshd_config and not ssh_config
[3:40] <abnormal> is searching now: 67.230.170.10
[3:41] <DanDare> Yay! driver compiled ok now. thank you guys ...
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[3:43] <abnormal> this is what shows up: Connection failed. Error: Bad file descriptor
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[3:46] <DanDare> abnormal, no clue. sounds like server's issue but no sure
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[3:47] <abnormal> well how do I uninstall the simpleide app?
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[3:48] <DanDare> i dont know whats simpleide app. can find it using apt also
[3:48] <abnormal> because it went thru an awful lot of processes installing it...
[3:49] <DanDare> *cant find it using apt
[3:50] <DanDare> abnormal, if its a program you downloaded outside the raspbian packages provided by apt, find for a uninstall script or try google on how to uninstall it
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[3:56] <abnormal> if you go to www.parallax.com and click on microcontrollers then click on propeller then click on boards scrol down til u get to p8x32a propeller quickstart then scrol down to downloads and it has a RPi download...
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[4:12] <baldengineer> finally getting around to setting up my original Pi. I’m impressed with noobs
[4:12] <DanDare> baldengineer, welcome to the party :)
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[4:38] <baldengineer> what’s the init level that turns on x-server (or whatever the window server is)
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[4:41] <lost_soul> isn't it 5
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[4:42] <lost_soul> baldengineer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[4:42] <lost_soul> it's runlevel 5
[4:43] <baldengineer> thanks for both, been a long time since I ran linux not on a server somewhere
[4:43] <lost_soul> no worries
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[5:02] <clever> by default, which i2c bus is on the main GPIO header?
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[5:03] <clever> 1 it seems
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[5:22] <phire> clever, depends on the version of board you have
[5:23] <clever> rev 2, with the p5 header
[5:23] <clever> a scope on the i2c pins confirms that bus 1 is the one i'm using
[5:24] <clever> but i'm not getting any reply from the chip, i suspect it went into spi mode
[5:24] <clever> http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/76/CS8416_F3-34501.pdf
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[5:24] <clever> page 13, pin 14
[5:24] <clever> i left it floating, so it may have triggered spi mode
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[5:29] <clever> phire: you think that pin floating would do it?
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[5:31] <Robert_pi> why does resolve.conf reset to its original on reboot? WHere can I put my DNS servers?
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[5:31] <clever> Robert_pi: the dhcp client is probly changing it to match what the dhcp server said to use
[5:32] <phire> Robert_pi, do you have a static ip set in /etc/network/interfaces?
[5:32] <Robert_pi> hmmm
[5:32] <clever> Robert_pi: i think one option is to use update-resolv-conf
[5:32] <clever> if that program is present, the dhcp client will run it to rebuild resolv.conf
[5:32] <clever> then you can do anything you want
[5:32] <Robert_pi> no the pi gets it's ip via dhcp
[5:32] <clever> in my case, i feed the dhcp's DNS servers to bind config files
[5:32] <clever> and then i force resolv.conf to use 127.0.0.1
[5:33] <clever> and the local bind server then uses the 'real' servers automaticaly
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[5:34] <clever> Robert_pi: ah, the program is called resolvconf
[5:35] <clever> Robert_pi: try googling that
[5:36] <Robert_pi> ok
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[5:39] <Robert_pi> thx
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[5:40] <phire> clever, floating is not a good idea
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[5:41] <clever> phire: i'll have to fire up the iron tomorrow then and see what i can do about that
[5:42] <clever> running out of pullup/down resistors
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[6:38] <steve_rox> wonder what price target the rpi display is going to be
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[7:01] <zero_coder> how can i setup a static wifi adress for my raspberry pi
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[7:07] <steve_rox> i set my router to assign a static ip thu dhcp
[7:09] <zero_coder> steve_rox, i am under college wifi
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[7:10] <steve_rox> oh right
[7:10] <steve_rox> i dont know where the config file is for it but i think you can force assign one
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[7:14] <zero_coder> steve_rox, i tried using wicd-curses. but its not working
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[7:16] <DanDare> zero_coder, its raspbian?
[7:16] <zero_coder> DanDare, yep
[7:17] <DanDare> zero_coder, its usually set on /etc/network/interfaces
[7:18] <DanDare> its set there by default, at least for eth0
[7:19] <DanDare> but i didnt tried setting wifi on any X gui. i did it by editing that file
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[7:21] <DanDare> zero_coder, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[7:21] <steve_rox>
[7:21] <steve_rox> i still need fix for my wifi
[7:22] <steve_rox> cant connect to its ssh /shares etc dispite the rpi client can connect to anythin
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[7:25] <DanDare> steve_rox, for wifi you need to add lines with wpa-ssid "wifiname" and wpa-psk "yourpassword"
[7:26] <steve_rox> yeah i can connect to the ap
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[7:26] <steve_rox> just nothing on lan can access the rpi when its on wifi
[7:27] <DanDare> i thought you asked about how to set static IP
[7:27] <steve_rox> i didnt
[7:27] <steve_rox> other guy did
[7:28] <DanDare> wow yeah, just mixed nicks there, sorry
[7:28] <steve_rox> its okay :-)
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[9:11] <NGC3982> Something is very odd about RPI wifi and ssh.
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[9:13] <lost_soul> NGC3982: what do you mean
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[9:41] <SirLagz> good to see my blog is still helping RPIers lol
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[9:54] <RoBo_V> New to this Channel, Joined it as my first and new Raspberry Pi B+ on the way. So greetings to ALL. :)
[9:54] <RoBo_V> Anyone available to welcome xD
[9:55] <ShorTie> congradulations
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[9:57] <RoBo_V> Thanks ShorTie :)
[9:57] * RaTTuS|BIG sends RoBo_V some cake
[9:58] <RoBo_V> RaTTuS|BIG, Yummy thanks :)
[9:58] <ShorTie> but you gotta make a led blink to get icecream with it
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[9:59] <dunz0r> Oh hai RoBo_V \(^_^)/
[10:00] <RoBo_V> hey dunz0r, glad to see you here o/ now im also part of community
[10:00] <RoBo_V> xd
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[10:01] <RoBo_V> ShorTie: Well sure I will when it arrives, RPi still in transit
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[10:01] <dunz0r> Anyone got any tips on some cool looking plans for a wooden box for the B+ btw?
[10:02] <RoBo_V> dunz0r: where your RPi currently hooked up ?
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[10:03] <dunz0r> RoBo_V: It's hooked up to my hometheater-amp and projector, running Retropie so I can play some old and awesome games :)
[10:04] <dunz0r> Like Abes Oddysey, Curse of Monkey Island, Lost Vikings etc etc
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[10:12] <RoBo_V> dunz0r: cool, what is Retropie ?
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[10:26] <dunz0r> RoBo_V: It's a packaged solution for having a frontend for a bunch of emulators. Really nice
[10:27] <RoBo_V> I see, was checking on it though
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[10:32] <Vialas_> Hey everyone
[10:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> Hi Dr Nick
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[10:38] <shiftplusone> Vialas, hey
[10:38] <Vialas> shiftplusone, how are ya mate!
[10:39] <shiftplusone> half asleep, but pretty good overall
[10:39] <Vialas> ahh good stuff
[10:39] <Vialas> i havent been here in ages
[10:39] <Vialas> i miss our kerbal tutorails
[10:39] <Vialas> (altho i bet you dont lol)
[10:39] <shiftplusone> heh
[10:39] <Vialas> hows your bro?
[10:39] <shiftplusone> where did you disappear off to anyway?
[10:39] <Vialas> ahh i moved house
[10:40] <Vialas> and now this computer is in a room i hardly use anymore
[10:40] <Vialas> but im looking to get back into kerballing!
[10:40] <shiftplusone> ah, makes sense
[10:40] <Vialas> my poor kerbals!
[10:40] <shiftplusone> my bro? he's probably fine, but I haven't spoked to him in a few months >.>
[10:40] <Vialas> what
[10:40] <Vialas> how come :O
[10:41] <Vialas> bad shiftplusone !
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[10:41] <shiftplusone> =(
[10:41] <Vialas> why no talky
[10:41] <Vialas> didnt you two live together?
[10:41] <shiftplusone> aye, but I'm in Cambridge for a bit.
[10:41] <Vialas> wow
[10:42] <Vialas> as in the uni?
[10:42] <shiftplusone> Nuh, just the city
[10:42] <shiftplusone> (doing pi stuff)
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[10:44] <shiftplusone> Miss Melbourne though =(
[10:45] <Vialas> ahhh right
[10:45] <Vialas> ohhh pi stuff
[10:45] <Vialas> NICE!
[10:46] <Vialas> ohhh
[10:46] <shiftplusone> aye, I'm rather chuffed about it. Best luck I've had in a while
[10:46] <Vialas> what happend
[10:46] <Vialas> how, why?
[10:46] <Vialas> do tell
[10:46] <Vialas> and why didnt you pack a Vialas in your checked luggage
[10:46] <Vialas> i could have come along!
[10:46] <shiftplusone> heh
[10:47] <shiftplusone> Just applied for an internship at pi towers so I can officially get my engineering/business degrees and got it.
[10:48] <shiftplusone> and no humans were packed into the luggage due to the baggage limit
[10:48] <Vialas> wow, well done shiftplusone , thats amasing
[10:48] <Vialas> cant belive your working for em :O
[10:49] <Vialas> oh come on shiftplusone , you could have made an exception!!!
[10:49] <shiftplusone> it's not for long, so I'm trying not to get too attached
[10:49] <Vialas> how long is it?
[10:49] <Vialas> and ps, its a foot in the door!
[10:49] <shiftplusone> 3 months, maybe 7
[10:49] <Vialas> (both to be precice)
[10:49] <Vialas> hey thats not too bad shiftplusone.
[10:50] <shiftplusone> foot in the door yeah, but the people here are brilliant and there are lots of talented people they can hire who know the hardware and software inside out
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[10:53] <Vialas> yes but they are NOT shiftplusone !!!
[10:54] <Vialas> did you talk to the geek girl diary gal?
[10:54] <shiftplusone> even more the reason
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[10:54] <Vialas> haha silly shiftplusone i mean that in the POSITIVE way
[10:54] <shiftplusone> no proper talks, but I may have said pi once... that counts
[10:54] <shiftplusone> she's always running around looking busy
[10:55] <Vialas> ha oh come on
[10:55] <Vialas> she has to love the shiftplusone accent!
[10:55] <Vialas> said pi
[10:55] <Vialas> haha so funny
[10:55] <Vialas> so now you are on the In
[10:55] <Vialas> can you get them to make a raspberry pi that can run kerbal for me?
[10:57] <shiftplusone> I'll try
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[10:58] <Vialas> yay
[10:58] <Vialas> good work
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[11:04] <shiftplusone> How are things in Melbourne? Cold and moist, I suspect?
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[11:07] <Vialas> im not in melbourne
[11:08] <Vialas> im near syd remeber
[11:08] <shiftplusone> Eh? D=
[11:08] <shiftplusone> What I remember is you being in mornington
[11:08] <shiftplusone> is sydney where you moved then?
[11:10] <Vialas> never in Melb
[11:10] <Vialas> Wollongong
[11:10] <Vialas> shiftplusone, how could you
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[11:10] <shiftplusone> lies!
[11:11] <shiftplusone> (actually, yeah, I remember... there's another aussie here from melbourne and I mixed up your locations)
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[11:13] <Vialas> tsk tsk tsk
[11:13] <Vialas> shame on you shiftplusone
[11:14] <Vialas> anyway it is cold and windy here in the gong
[11:14] <Vialas> melb must be unbareable!
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[11:16] <Vialas> ohhh im loading up my new kerbal :D
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[11:16] <Vialas> starting fresh
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[11:17] <shiftplusone> it has changed a lot since last time, I think
[11:17] <Vialas> realy
[11:17] <Vialas> ok
[11:18] <Vialas> you ready coach?
[11:18] <Vialas> hahah
[11:18] <Vialas> :P
[11:18] <shiftplusone> heh, a bit busy for that
[11:18] <hyponic> Hi.. just installed RASPBIAN on my SD card. 8GB SD card. but i can't use the entire space on the card! any tips?
[11:18] <Vialas> yea i know all good
[11:18] <shiftplusone> at work after all
[11:18] <Vialas> hello hyponic , did you use the tool when you installed rasbian?
[11:18] <Vialas> shiftplusone fair enough
[11:18] <shiftplusone> hyponic, raspi-config, expand.
[11:19] <Vialas> [Saint]
[11:19] <Vialas> good work shiftplusone *
[11:19] <[Saint]> who what when why?
[11:19] <hyponic> shiftplusone just type raspi-config and i will get a menu?
[11:20] <shiftplusone> hyponic, maybe, maybe not
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[11:20] <hyponic> did it.. rebooting. will see if it works :P
[11:21] <Vialas> sorry [Saint] , wrong person, but all good
[11:21] <Vialas> nice to meet you mate
[11:21] <[Saint]> :)
[11:21] <shiftplusone> careful, he's a kiwi
[11:21] <Vialas> ohh golly
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[11:26] <max12345> Hello. I have a pi set up with an OS but apart from that my knowledge about it extends to the fact that I have one. Now I wanted to see how hard it is to host some files. I've googled around a bit and most seem to use prepared software that set up user accounts and passwords and whatnot. Is it necessary to have those or can I set that up myself?
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[11:41] <PhyberApex> You want to host files? Which protocol should they be available on?
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[11:42] <max12345> I don't know anything about that yet.
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[11:43] <max12345> what are common protocols so I can educate myself about them?^^
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[11:43] <max12345> like http and https?
[11:44] <wiiguy> tcp and udp ?
[11:44] <wiiguy> oh
[11:45] <max12345> I don't know I remember reading that udp is more robust if you set it up properly.
[11:45] <Tenebrous> i think he means like SAMBA or NFS
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[11:46] <wiiguy> in that case, no idea :D
[11:47] <wiiguy> what you can do, is ya take a package scanner and read that :p
[11:48] <max12345> "Samba allows for interoperability between Linux/Unix servers and Windows-based clients." that sounds good :)
[11:48] <max12345> but linux <-> linux would be nice too...
[11:48] <wiiguy> linux can also connect to samba
[11:52] <james_olympus> SSHFS is easy to set up if you already have an SSH server, though performance won't be as good as Samba or NFS
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[11:53] <max12345> I found a NFS how-to ^^ also I have no ssh server ( I think ? )
[11:53] <wiiguy> on the pi ?
[11:53] <wiiguy> you should have ...
[11:54] <james_olympus> If you run sudo raspi-config there'll be an option to enable one
[11:54] <max12345> oh ok then I have one
[11:54] <wiiguy> connect to port 22 trough putty
[11:54] <PhyberApex> Question is if you just want to provide files to be able to download...or if you want to do more....like a HTTP or UPnP
[11:55] <max12345> My idea was that if the files are on the pi and the pi is connected I could retrieve the files whenever I want. So guess that means I want to be able to download them?
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[11:56] <PhyberApex> yeah so you want to use the pi as a file server
[11:56] <max12345> yes
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[11:56] <PhyberApex> as mentioned earlier NFS / Samba is good for that...if you want to be able to access it from outside of your network a FTP server might be easier imho
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[11:58] <dunz0r> You could try out owncloud... it's a bit like dropbox
[11:59] <dunz0r> But you host it yourself and it's exentendable by plugins
[11:59] <dunz0r> Nice http-interface and everything: http://www.owncloudbook.com/owncloud-on-raspberry-pi/
[11:59] <PhyberApex> That might be a good solution yes!
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[12:03] <shiftplusone> nope
[12:03] <shiftplusone> owncloud is SLOOOOW
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[12:07] <shiftplusone> "PHP execution time is increased to 240 seconds."
[12:08] <shiftplusone> If you think that's sensible, you're going to have a bad time.
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[12:18] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm running raspbian as a headless server, and I was wondering how I can set the output volume for the right/left independently
[12:18] <trijntje> my boxes are a bit crappy, so the left is waaaayyy softer then the right. I've tried alsamixer but it only appears to have a 'master' volume
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[12:34] <shiftplusone> hurray... the satisfaction of finding the bug you've been trying to solve for days.
[12:36] <PhyberApex> don't worry....it'll be back with the next release :D
[12:36] <shiftplusone> yay
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[12:38] <neutrino> any news of a raspbery pi lcd screen ?
[12:38] <neutrino> any one know i they are making one anytime soon ?
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[12:39] <shiftplusone> neutrino, how soon?
[12:39] <ShorTie> tomorrow, lol.
[12:39] <shiftplusone> there's speculation on the forum that it might be a few weeks
[12:40] <shiftplusone> but I'm not so sure
[12:40] <plugwash> who knows, they have been talking about it for ages but I suspect the first we will hear about it being released is when some vendor leaks it
[12:40] * ShorTie snickers
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[12:40] <neutrino> shiftplusone: okay that'd be nice ... havent any hackers got to making a phone screen run by the pi ?
[12:41] <shiftplusone> yeah, plenty
[12:41] <neutrino> accelerated by gpu of course ;
[12:41] <shiftplusone> lots of SPI and I2C screens
[12:41] <shiftplusone> not so much in terms of GPU acceleration >_<
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[12:41] <neutrino> oh okay ..
[12:42] <ShorTie> got any idea what resolution they are shooting for ??
[12:42] <neutrino> it bettter be good
[12:42] <shiftplusone> I know a little too much to be able to talk openly about it, I think
[12:42] <neutrino> is the lcd connector a standard connector ? are there other lcd's with the same connector ?
[12:42] <shiftplusone> but the prototype they demoed a while back was 480x800, iirc
[12:43] <neutrino> if so i dont mind sitting and writing some code to drive it myself
[12:43] <shiftplusone> neutrino, it uses dsi, so not very standard... won't be able to use other screens
[12:43] <ShorTie> oh poo, that ain't worth nothin
[12:44] <shiftplusone> aye, I suspect it's more for industrial use
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[12:44] <shiftplusone> doesn't mean that the released version won't be different
[12:45] <ShorTie> lets hope so, hehe.
[12:45] <neutrino> im considering some screens with good documentation out there ; but i dont wont the driver to have much cpu overhead putting stuff on the screen
[12:46] <shiftplusone> pick one or the other
[12:46] <neutrino> the adafruit guys i think have made an excellent screen and a kernel driver for it
[12:46] <shiftplusone> you'll have no documentation for the pi screen, but it's fully controlled by the gpu
[12:46] <shiftplusone> you can get lots of screens with great documentation, but there will be overhead.
[12:47] <neutrino> shiftplusone: do you happen to know if the DMA can access the videocore frambuffer memmroy as well ?
[12:48] <shiftplusone> yeah, isn't that how fbturbo does things?
[12:49] <Tenebrous> i've ordered an hdmipi... it's cheap enough but 9"
[12:49] <Tenebrous> (kinda not related to the convo)
[12:49] <shiftplusone> aye, that's a good one
[12:49] <shiftplusone> well, it's related enough
[12:49] <Tenebrous> aye!
[12:50] <Tenebrous> not expecting to get it til late august tho
[12:51] <neutrino> hmm ; then is it possible to push framebuffer via dma through gpio to avoid cpu overhead ;
[12:52] <shiftplusone> maybe, but what protocol do you think you'd use for that?
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[12:52] <neutrino> yeah ; and inplementing the protocol would cause a cpu overhead too
[12:53] <neutrino> the protocol would be the respective LCD's protocl
[12:53] <neutrino> so that i can just hookup the lcd to the gpio
[12:54] <shiftplusone> if you can find a suitable protocol
[12:54] <neutrino> why would it be difficullt to get the protocol an lcd uses ?
[12:55] <shiftplusone> I don't know, but have fun.
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[12:58] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm running raspbian as a headless server, and I was wondering how I can set the output volume for the right/left independently
[12:58] <shiftplusone> depends on how much effort you're willing to put in or if alsa offers that functionality for you
[12:59] <neutrino> amixer
[13:00] <neutrino> oh right left independantly not sure
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[13:00] <shiftplusone> hurray http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections/frontpage/products/raspberry-pi-universal-power-supply
[13:00] <shiftplusone> decent power supply to recommend to people
[13:00] <trijntje> well, I dont want to spend a week messing around, on my ubuntu desktop sound settings has a slider to set the left/right balance
[13:01] <shiftplusone> do you just want to adjust the channel volume or actually play different stuff on them?
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[13:03] <neutrino> trijntje: one solution would be to do it through the player instead of alsa
[13:03] <neutrino> try the vlc or any other players command line options to see if they can set individual channel volumes
[13:03] <trijntje> shiftplusone: I want the volume for the left box to be higher, since it's a lot lower with the default settings
[13:04] <shiftplusone> sure, that's simple enough
[13:04] <shiftplusone> alsamixer, for example
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[13:06] <trijntje> shiftplusone: when I run alsamixser I don't see an option to set the left/right volume independently
[13:07] <Tenebrous> shiftplusone: i was looking for a power supply myself. figured i will just put a powered usb hub in my enclosure and power everything from that. also found a rechargeable 12v in -> battery -> 12v out to power it
[13:07] <gordonDrogon> neutrino, some GPIO displays use the SPI interface - that's relatively efficient when updating the whole display - you just do an SPI write of the entire in-memory framebuffer.
[13:07] <shiftplusone> trijntje, check the manual, it should be there.
[13:07] <shiftplusone> google says B is used to adjust the balance in alsamixer
[13:09] <neutrino> gordonDrogon: cool ill check it out ; but im eyeing on the higher end lcd's like say the ones used in a mid range android phone
[13:09] <neutrino> like the Moto E for example
[13:10] <trijntje> shiftplusone: that has no effect
[13:11] <trijntje> it only shows a single channel in the 'playback' view
[13:11] <shiftplusone> fine, I'll try it myself... let me fire up the vm
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[13:12] <Tenebrous> it doesn't work for me either. the help also says you can use Q/Z to up/down the left vol, and E/C to up/down the right vol, but they all control the same vol
[13:12] * ShorTie see's No balance adjustment in alsamixer
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[13:12] <ShorTie> all you get, or i do, is a pcm slide bar
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[13:13] <neutrino> vm ??
[13:14] <shiftplusone> q, e, z, c
[13:15] <Tenebrous> all move the same slider for me
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[13:15] <shiftplusone> yes vm, I am forced to use windoze here.
[13:15] <shiftplusone> press F1 in alsamixer
[13:15] <shiftplusone> maybe the keybindings are different
[13:15] <shiftplusone> but q and e, z and c work for me
[13:15] <Tenebrous> i just hit H to see the help page and it said qezc too
[13:15] <trijntje> you can run raspberry pi in a vm?
[13:16] <Tenebrous> i suspect shiftplusone is not looking at raspbian?
[13:16] <shiftplusone> trijntje, oh, no, I'm just running mint
[13:16] <shiftplusone> fine... I'll check raspbian
[13:16] <Tenebrous> hehe
[13:16] <Tenebrous> :p
[13:16] <shiftplusone> yup, single channel, no left/right
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> neutrino, the Adafruit one works like that - and I had an experimental one (never made to market) that also worked like that. Basically if the display supports SPI (and I think most do), then you can just blit a memoy buffer to the display - it's rendering fancy stuff to the memory buffer that's more an issue :)
[13:17] <shiftplusone> seems like the alsa driver is limited then
[13:17] <neutrino> gordonDrogon: which lcd did you use ?
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> neutrino, it was a half Pi sized one - with a resistive touchscreen.
[13:18] <trijntje> hm, thats too bad. I thought I remembered it was possible, but if there's just one channel I guess I misremember
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> neutrino, it never made it to market which is a shame I think as it would have beaten the adafruit one by a year or so...
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[13:19] <neutrino> gordonDrogon: should have gone for kickstarter or indegego
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> neutrino, who knows - I just wrote some code for it - it was not my project.
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[13:22] <neutrino> oh okay ; lets see ,im quite interested in amking one work cause i can get replacement screens for around 5 to 20 dollars ( depending on the screen type) at a place around here
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[13:23] <gordonDrogon> google about - there are a few nokia type displays that people have hooked up via the SPI interface.
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[13:25] <neutrino> gordonDrogon: yes i have worked oone of those before , nokia 2760 i think , a small grainy color lcd which uses spi
[13:25] <neutrino> hooked it up to an arduino
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[13:29] <neutrino> /join archlinux
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[13:36] <neutrino> just curious does eben or any of the engineers at the foundation turn up here ?
[13:36] <shiftplusone> maybe
[13:36] <shiftplusone> generally incognito
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[13:38] <shiftplusone> I'm technically employed as an engineer by the foundation, but that doesn't count.
[13:39] <ppq> shiftplusone, what is your job, if i may ask?
[13:39] <neutrino> shiftplusone: lol yeah .. you got me curious there
[13:39] <shiftplusone> ppq, I poke the firmware with a stick sometimes.
[13:40] <ppq> :) ok
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[13:40] <neutrino> he he .. are you bound by NDA too ?
[13:40] <neutrino> or you dont know things needed to bind you by one
[13:40] <shiftplusone> just a typical employment contract... probably the shortest I've ever signed
[13:41] <shiftplusone> I don't talk about things they wouldn't want me to talk about, but not because of any NDA... just because I don't feel like screwing them over. O_o
[13:41] <neutrino> oooh .. so you do know some internal stuff !
[13:42] <shiftplusone> depends on how you define knowledge
[13:43] <shiftplusone> is belief a subset of knowledge? who's to say? nobody knows.
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[13:59] <zleap> does the pi x server use GLX or can it use GLX trying to run a program written with pyglet and it says it needs an xserver with GLX
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[14:02] <ShorTie> don't think the pi supports glx
[14:02] <zleap> ok
[14:03] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21014&sid=b8d1121483e92aac9d08947f7f0328c1
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[14:04] <ChaseTrains> gl is hardware-implemented you fool :p
[14:04] <zleap> i am just going by the error message and trying to fix it
[14:05] <ChaseTrains> what's the first thing pi do when you boot it? copy the first X bytes from SD to ram? or what?
[14:05] <ShorTie> thats not Nice ChaseTrains
[14:05] <ChaseTrains> ShorTie: what's not nice?
[14:06] <ShorTie> what you said
[14:08] <ChaseTrains> I was about to call you an autistic idiot without the insight to why I'd think so even if I explained it to you, but I assume you're just trying to be funny here (hence me being the idiot for thinking that you're an idiot)
[14:09] <ChaseTrains> unless you're a troll. But you wouldn't admit that ofc.
[14:09] * ChanServ sets mode +o ShorTie
[14:09] <ChaseTrains> wow, you really are autistic.
[14:09] <ChaseTrains> well, go and fuck yourself idiot.
[14:09] <ChaseTrains> and take your medication.
[14:09] * ChanServ sets mode +o gordonDrogon
[14:10] * ChaseTrains was kicked from #raspberrypi by gordonDrogon
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[14:10] <ChaseTrains> and don't shoot people on the street pls
[14:10] * ShorTie sets mode +b *!*@gateway/tor-sasl/shiroyamakota/x-99368086
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[14:11] * ShorTie sets mode -o ShorTie
[14:11] * ChanServ sets mode -o gordonDrogon
[14:11] <gordonDrogon> and that was that.
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[14:13] <zleap> hi gordonDrogon
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[14:14] * gordonDrogon waves.
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[14:15] <zleap> hows it going
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[14:19] <gordonDrogon> busily.
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[14:23] <zleap> is there an ssh switch that gets round this X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[14:23] <gordonDrogon> ssh -X
[14:24] <zleap> i am doing that
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[14:24] <gordonDrogon> are you running as root on the Pi?
[14:24] <zleap> but the program i am running is a pyglet application to control the gpio so needs to run as root
[14:24] <zleap> yeah using sudo on the pi over ssh
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> on the display PC, try running: xhost +
[14:25] <zleap> thanks
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[14:30] <Tenebrous> i wish i knew more about linux.
[14:30] <Tenebrous> <said everyone>
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[14:34] <gordonDrogon> 33 years on *nix and I'm still learning...
[14:39] <Tenebrous> aye
[14:39] <Tenebrous> well, same with everything i guess
[14:39] <Tenebrous> 37 years being a human and i'm still learning :P
[14:40] <zleap> you tend to pick things up as you go
[14:40] <Tenebrous> yep. you start of copy/pasting examples etc, and gradually you know why they do what they do, and then you change them
[14:40] <zleap> which is why irc and other forums are useful you can learn form other users
[14:40] <Tenebrous> and then you corrupt your file system and go back to windows
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[14:41] <zleap> no you mess iut up and reinstall Linux
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[14:42] <zleap> hard to go back to windows on a pi
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[14:43] <Tenebrous> hehe
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[14:43] <zleap> yep
[14:43] <zleap> its a bit slow on a pi
[14:44] <Tenebrous> i imagine!
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[14:45] <pksato> http://see-plus-plus.tumblr.com/post/65265468680/hi-id-like-to-hear-a-tcp-joke-hello-would
[14:45] <easier> lol
[14:47] <shiftplusone> Aww, I missed ShorTie first kick.
[14:47] <shiftplusone> *'s
[14:47] <shiftplusone> But yeah, you guys called it... I thought he wasn't a troll.
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[14:49] <zleap> how do u get a count of how many users are in a c hannel
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[14:50] <shiftplusone> don't know what the proper way to do it, my irc client just says it (373)
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[14:55] <gordonDrogon> in xchat, I select View -> userlist and it tells me 370 + 2 ops.
[14:55] <zleap> ah thanks
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[15:24] <Lope> I've noticed winetricks in the repos but there is no wine in the repos?
[15:24] <zleap> hmm
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[15:27] <Samysam> Lope: except if you want to execute windows RT applications, wine can't help you
[15:27] <Lope> oh shit. I forgot that the windows programs are still x86 and wine just connects the API dots.
[15:28] <Lope> haha :)
[15:28] <Lope> btw the cartoon characters from the video on the front page of rbpi website reminded me of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBStbd2B8Jk
[15:28] <lennard> Lope: so you forgot that... Wine Is Not an Emulator? :P
[15:29] <lennard> sorry, had to be done
[15:29] <Samysam> ^^
[15:29] <Samysam> Lope: is this your own app you want to use ?
[15:31] <Lope> lennard, not talking to me I guess?
[15:31] <Lope> Samysam, nah. But I can make another plan.
[15:32] <Lope> thanks
[15:32] <lennard> Lope: pretty sure I was talking to you
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[15:33] <lennard> but, no matter, it was only a silly joke :)
[15:33] <Lope> lennard, oh, sorry I misread who said what.
[15:33] <Lope> yeah I forgot
[15:33] <Lope> I also forgot about the limitations of ARM and regular x86 software.
[15:34] <Lope> It's alright the program is batshit slow on wine on my old x64 laptop.
[15:34] <Lope> so I'll make a better plan.
[15:34] <Samysam> Lope: ok, good luck
[15:39] <Lope> anyone know what version nodejs is on RbPi?
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[15:41] <Lope> 0.6.19 wow that's old!
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[15:48] <james_olympus> Lope: There were official Node.js builds for the Raspberry Pi, they seem to have stopped around 11th April
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[16:41] <PunIntended> Will the Raspberry Pi display be with Gorilla Glass ?
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[16:52] <chris_99> which RPi display, PunIntended?
[16:53] <PunIntended> chris_99: The to-be-released DSI screen.
[16:53] <chris_99> oh
[16:54] <chris_99> is this something made by the RPi people
[16:54] <PunIntended> chris_99: Yes, the official one.
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[16:55] <chris_99> cool
[16:55] <PunIntended> chris_99: It should be released as we're in August)
[16:56] <PunIntended> just wondering about warranty for broken screens
[16:56] <shiftplusone> none
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[16:57] <shiftplusone> ...gorilla glass....
[16:57] * shiftplusone rolls his eyes
[16:57] <PunIntended> What type of glass is used on the screen , shiftplusone ?
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[16:58] <shiftplusone> it's not a phone
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[17:00] <PunIntended> shiftplusone: My 10.1' Samsung tabled has that.
[17:00] <PunIntended> *tablet
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[17:02] <PunIntended> The screen will quickly be broken
[17:03] <nicdev> has anyone here ordered a hifiberry in US? How long does the shipment take?
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[17:06] <clever> phire: ah, found a second issue
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[17:06] <clever> phire: have to pullup a pin to put it in software mode
[17:06] <clever> *digs thru part bin*
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[17:21] <clever> phire: and nothin, must need to tie up the spi mode pin also
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[17:24] <flan3002> I realize this might not be the right channel, but does anyone know why there might be randomly colored LEDs on my 32x16 LED matrix, but only just before colored ones?
[17:24] <flan3002> s/does know/can guess/
[17:25] <flan3002> Shall I try to take a picture?
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[17:41] <flan3002> Or... could you redirect me to a channel better suited for this?
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[17:49] <lost_soul> flan3002: have you asked in #electronics?
[17:50] <flan3002> No, I haven't. I'll do. ^^
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[18:27] <gamatos> Hello, good evening
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[18:31] <gamatos> I have a pi, to which I have connected a usb webcam, and on the GPIO ports i have connected a breadboard that has one DHT22 digital thermometer. Everything works great, what I would like to know if the pi could provide enough power if I wanted to add let's say another 3 thermometers
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[18:35] <lost_soul> gamatos: I'm pretty sure you'ld need to add them one at a time and keep an eye on the power levels
[18:37] <gamatos> what would be an alternative solution in case the pi cannot keep up with the power demand? The pi needs to stay in the loop since it stores the data it retrieves from the sensors
[18:37] <lost_soul> why not use a secondary psu for the thermometers?
[18:38] <lost_soul> if it is even an issue, which it very well may not be
[18:38] <GadgetDroid> Dht22s use about 3mA max
[18:39] <lost_soul> should have no problem then
[18:39] <gamatos> what kind of psu? would it connect directly to the breadboard? excuse my ignorance, this is the first time i dabble with "electronics"
[18:40] <gamatos> oh nice. Since i only have 1 more 3.3v pin free, would I need to connect them in paraller or something?
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[18:43] <gamatos> actually these are the sensors I want to add (3 of them) --> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Popular-Soil-Hygrometer-Humidity-Detection-Module-Water-Sensor-For-Arduino-/290938922120?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:GB:3160
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> gamatos, if you're powering them off the 3.3v supply, then you ought to be fine - you have about 50mA "spare" on the 3.3v line.
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[18:44] <gordonDrogon> gamatos, you won't be able to use the analog output of those directly.
[18:45] <gamatos> there is a library for them available I believe
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[18:49] <gamatos> the library is mcp3008.py
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[18:51] <gamatos> ah i see, MCP3008 is the chip
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[18:54] <gamatos> ok then, this changes my setup and questions completely
[18:54] <gamatos> argh
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[18:58] <gordonDrogon> the mcp3008 is an OK little chip.
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> easy to use.
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[18:58] <gamatos> my problem and question lies with connecting all this things to the pi, the software part is easy
[18:59] <gamatos> i mean i don't even know if i can have both my breakout board AND the mcp connected on the breadboard at the same time
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[19:04] <gordonDrogon> don't see why not -
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> might look like a plate of flying spaghetti thought :)
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> the 3008 is an SPI device - it will need 4 wires + power & gnd.
[19:05] <gordonDrogon> but you don't need it if all you want is dry/wet indication.
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[19:05] <gordonDrogon> you could use 4 of those sensors with different settings and just have 4 digital inputs for 4 different levels of wetness...
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[19:06] <gordonDrogon> one soil probe, 4 boards, 4 wires back to the Pi (+ power/gnd)
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[19:06] <gordonDrogon> depends on how many pots you're watching though...
[19:07] <gamatos> 3 pots
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> still depends on you needing a simple wet/dry indicator, or knowing just how wet/dry ...
[19:08] <gamatos> ok so i need then 3 mcps, and 3 breadboards one for each probe
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> no - the 3008 has 8 analog inputs. you only need 1.
[19:09] <gordonDrogon> in-fact, you only need the mcp3004. (4 analog inputs)
[19:09] <gordonDrogon> (same software as the 3008)
[19:10] <gamatos> so trying to visualize this, from my existing breadboard, cables will go to a second breadboard where the mcp will be connected
[19:10] <gordonDrogon> or a bigger first breadboard.
[19:12] <gamatos> this is how my breadboard looks now, exactly like this --> https://learn.adafruit.com/assets/1862
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[19:12] <gamatos> do you think there is enough space for the chip and the probes?
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[19:15] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[19:17] <gamatos> :D great
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[19:18] <gamatos> thank you so much for your patience with my stupid questions
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[19:22] <gordonDrogon> incidentally, if you connect the 3.3v line to one of the horizontal red lines on the broadboard, and do the same for the 0v line to a black horizontal one, then you can use those for all other 3.3v lines.
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[19:22] <gordonDrogon> actually, you've already done it with the 0v/gnd line.
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[19:26] <gamatos> ok i think i get it, let me try something
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[19:51] <gamatos> what can I do with an Arduino connected to my pi, that I cannot do with my pi and the GPIO ports alone?
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[19:54] <Squarepy> gamatos, realtime interrupts
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> more PWM outputs and on-board analog inputs.
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[19:54] <gordonDrogon> but no ethernet. (well, no easy ethernet)
[19:54] <pwillard> and just not so many digital GPIO to work with and... 5V compatability
[19:54] <gamatos> no i mean I have seen people connecting their pi to an arduino board
[19:54] <gamatos> what is the advantage of that
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> yes - many many Pi <-> Arduino solutions.
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> some people just like Arduino - or see the Pi as a souped up Ethernet adapter for arduino.
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> or run software on both at the same time.
[19:55] <pwillard> I do it with my weather station... all the data gathering from various sensors is arduino... number crunching and database storage on the pi
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> Pi could be doung heavy computation, arduino doing real-time control..
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[19:59] <plugwash> The big advantage is that "applications processors" like the ones in the Pi are good in terms of total processing power but they suck in terms of tightly times IO work
[19:59] <plugwash> a microcontroller without caches, without an OS and so-on is much much easier to get very tightly controlled timing on
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[20:01] <plugwash> As for ethernet on microcontrollers the problem is not so much ethernet itself as the protocols on top of it
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[20:01] <plugwash> if you just want to send/receive UDP over a trusted network then it's pretty easy to do on a microcontroller with the microchip enc28j60
[20:02] <plugwash> but as your requirements for network protocols grow it gets harder and harder to implement them without a decent ammount of memory and the ability to run an OS
[20:02] <gamatos> ah i see
[20:03] <gamatos> so basically because the pi runs the OS, this is the reason why my cron tasks are 1-2 seconds of each time
[20:03] <gamatos> if I'm in need of really tight timing then i need to use anothr board
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[20:05] <Kanerix> What are some suggestions for some good B+ cases?
[20:05] <plugwash> define "good"
[20:05] <gordonDrogon> gamatos, if your cron tasks take 1-2 seconds to run it's because ... they take 1-2 seconds to run. re-write them in a more efficient language if you want them to run quicker...
[20:06] <gordonDrogon> Kanerix, Pimoroni Coup� ...
[20:06] <gamatos> no i mean their start time
[20:06] <plugwash> Kanerix, what do you want out of your case?
[20:06] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/b-b+-1024x757.jpg
[20:07] <gordonDrogon> gamatos, what are they written in?
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[20:08] <gamatos> python, but i call them though a script file that the first thing it does is create a folder
[20:09] <gamatos> and the folder creation date is always 1 to 3 seconds off
[20:09] <gamatos> i hope i'm explaining it correctly
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[20:10] <gordonDrogon> gamatos, it's impossible to say why - without knowing more - do you have other stuff running on the Pi? what's cpu usage, etc. however running a script that always starts a second or 2 late isn't really an issue.
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> or shouldn't be.
[20:10] <gamatos> no it's never an issue, i just mentioned it as an example of why i think i do not need an arduino
[20:10] <gamatos> because i'm not doing time critical things
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[20:12] <Kanerix> Access to all the ports (including headers), no heat buildup, something that I can actually see the board.
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[20:16] <Kanerix> gordonDrogon, do they make that model in anything other than red? I like the design, but the color is a bit bright.
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[20:23] <gamatos> thanks everyone for your help, I'll keep you updated on my project
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[20:48] <gordonDrogon> Kanerix, sorry - not sure.
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[20:54] <gordonDrogon> anyone here used the camera noir and IR LEDs to illuminate an area for night time photography?
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[20:57] <shiftplusone> idn, but they just added a flash driver for the camera, so that could be handy there
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[21:00] <gordonDrogon> yes, just read that
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> Might be handy to catch the bats.
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> but the double flash thing might not really work.
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[21:44] <just4info> what's the benefit of using the RPI over a plugin like AdBlock?
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> the Pi's small size can be used as a blocker using blu tack to stick it over the adverts on your screen.
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[21:51] <clever> a pi could be configured to act as a router or proxy server, and delete the ad's from the html, or deny access to the images
[21:51] <clever> but it would likely ruin your internet performance, if you have any decent speed to begin with
[21:51] <clever> only benefit is that it can hit all devices, including those that lack adblock support
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[21:52] <clever> ps3, xbox, mobile devices
[21:52] <DanDare> just4info: A benefit can be being transparent to clients. You dont need to set adblocks or whatever rule in each client separately. You define rules that are immediately applied to everybody connected
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[21:53] <DanDare> its interesting, Its possible to add other rules as well, like blocked URLs among other facilities.
[21:54] <just4info> alright, thanks
[21:54] <clever> an example of how to do it over wifi: http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
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[21:54] <clever> in this case, it turns every image upsidedown
[21:54] <DanDare> just4info: But I dont know about pi performance acting as router, must test it
[21:55] <clever> i was originaly using a 400mhz P2 with ~128mb of ram as my router, it had a pair of 100mbit ethernet cards right on the pci bus
[21:55] <just4info> DanDare, that's probably the reason why i won't use it, since there is no opinion-breaking benefit over it
[21:55] <clever> and it couldnt handle my new fiber connection
[21:55] <aka> Does anyone know what would cause pygame running on an rpi to draw images on screen from top to bottom (rather than showing the entire image at once) when you use surface blit function?
[21:55] <clever> so i would expect a pi, funneling everything over usb, to be even worse
[21:55] <just4info> well the main issue i see is the lack of ethernet ports
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[21:55] <DanDare> just4info: well, im just new to pi. I must test stuff myself
[21:56] <clever> but if your on mid speed dsl, you may not notice that
[21:56] <aka> it's weird because on some rpi's it seems to work fine and on others it draws images from top to bottom and you can see the image show up over the course of 1/4 second or so
[21:56] <aka> I am using the same SD card image in two rpi's
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[21:57] <aka> wondering if there is something about the hardware that could possibly do it
[21:57] <just4info> well i'm not sure if i should risk it, my modem/router is currently breaking down, i'd only see a performance loss once i replace it
[21:57] <clever> just4info: you can chain things so there is no risk
[21:58] <clever> for example, you can turn the pi into a 2nd wifi router, that just feeds everything into the primary router
[21:58] <clever> so you can freely connect to one or the other
[21:58] <just4info> well the risk is that i couldn't determin wether the latency is cause by the rpi or the router
[21:58] <clever> if it breaks, just connect to the old wifi network
[21:58] <DanDare> networking traffic is not a big deal for linux, its not heavy. I suspect pi does just do a good job about this. But, pi hardware is not same as PC hardware so Im not sure
[21:58] <clever> ah
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[21:58] <DanDare> well, if you have 200 connected clients... thats another history :p
[21:59] <clever> DanDare: i was trying to shove 50mbit traffic thru a 400mhz P2, the cpu couldnt handle ti
[21:59] <DanDare> I see
[21:59] <clever> even 600kbyte/sec pppoe used up half the cpu power
[21:59] <clever> id expect a usb based ethernet like the pi to do worse, but i dont know how much worse
[22:00] <DanDare> ah ok. I suspect pppoe is something not tha lightweight
[22:00] <DanDare> network is a very generic term. it can be heavy indeed
[22:00] <clever> pppoe is fairly simple, just tack a header on the front and write it to a special socket
[22:00] <just4info> in the end i guess i got me the wrong board, the rpi seems to have a way too low performance for the cases i'd use it
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[22:00] <DanDare> ok
[22:00] <clever> i have read the pppoe kernel and userspace source, in an attempt to fix an issue
[22:00] <clever> but from what i saw, it wasnt making use of DMA (in that version atleast)
[22:01] <clever> so it had to memcpy the entire packet, atleast 3 or 4 times
[22:01] <DanDare> thats interesting
[22:01] <clever> the path it takes is a bit winding
[22:01] <clever> first, things go thru iptables and the NAT code, which routes the packet from eth0 to ppp0, and changes the source ip
[22:02] <clever> then it exits a pipe into the pppd deamon, which reads it, and writes it out to the pppoe deamon, which writes it to a specialized socket
[22:02] <clever> which feeds it out the wan0 interface, on a specialized protocol (not tcp/ip, a layer above)
[22:02] <nicdev> anyone ordered a hifiberry to the US east coast? wondering how long it takes to ship to me
[22:03] <clever> DanDare: first, that nat area is likely having to do a memcpy, then reading it into pppd needs a 2nd copy
[22:03] <DanDare> clever: It looks not clever :p
[22:03] <IT_Sean> the heck is a hifiberry?
[22:03] <clever> copying to pppoe needs 3 or 4 more, and a 5th for the final output
[22:03] <clever> so 5 or 6 full copies
[22:03] <nicdev> IT_Sean: http://www.hifiberry.com/dac
[22:03] <clever> if you assume it can do 1 byte per clock cycle, and it never does anything else (it will be much much worse)
[22:03] <DanDare> clever: iptables is very fast, fortunately
[22:03] <clever> then thats ~6 clocks per byte
[22:04] <clever> so at 400mhz, that comes out to ~66mbyte/sec
[22:04] <clever> under imposibly perfect conditions
[22:04] <clever> i was getting ~600kbyte/sec == 50% cpu usage
[22:04] <IT_Sean> Ahh.
[22:05] <clever> so the math is still a ways off, 1 clock per byte isnt anywhere close
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[22:05] <DanDare> IT_Sean: it looks a bit weird to me a soudcard module for a computer that got some already :p
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[22:06] <clever> DanDare: i'm actualy working on a related issue, spdif input
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[22:07] <DanDare> clever: you mean, audio input for microphone
[22:07] <clever> nope, pure digital input
[22:07] <clever> optical cable
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[22:07] <DanDare> Was thinking the other day, a cool module for pi would be a microphone input
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[22:08] <DanDare> maybe some ADC chip, translating audi to raw audio or something
[22:08] <clever> http://www.hifiberry.com/dac
[22:08] <clever> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8sezkmnsioueh9f/AAC2n2_RbeIeNlWp01saV5b0a
[22:09] <nicdev> DanDare: the Wolfson card does have 3.5mm line in and on board mics
[22:09] <DanDare> nicdev: Oh nice, will take a look about it. thanks
[22:09] <clever> most analog adc chips for audio, have i2s output
[22:09] <clever> which is the same digital output the pi has
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[22:10] <clever> and the chip i'm working with, just adapts spdif(optical) to i2s
[22:10] <clever> so in theory, i could switch it over to analog inputs easily
[22:10] <DanDare> clever: and pi is fast enough to deal it ?
[22:10] <clever> dont know
[22:10] <clever> i'm only using the pi to poke the i2c port for initial testing
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[22:11] <clever> i'm considering attempting capture on a pi, but i dont expect the usb to give me the latency i need down the road
[22:11] <nicdev> clever: the wolfson card does do S/PDIF in and out. the only issue with it is that it only works with a kernel that's couple version behind the latest raspberry pi kernel and i have not seen instructions on how to update it
[22:12] <clever> did you see the pics i linked above?
[22:12] <DanDare> clever: i grabbed this page the other day http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/raspberrypi but didnt read yet.
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[22:12] <DanDare> not yet, doing it now
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[22:15] <DanDare> im finally finishing a pi setup that works for me. I hope I dont need upgrade kernel anytime soon
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[22:21] <DanDare> Im using raspbian-netinst version. For raspbian or raspbian-netinst, there's a chance that I get a kernel upgrade by doing 'apt-get upgrade' ?
[22:21] <DanDare> I think the logic says that yes, it should upgrade the kernel :(
[22:21] <shiftplusone> dan depends on what you've got installed
[22:22] <DanDare> shiftplusone: How to avoid kernel being upgraded by apt-upgrade ?
[22:22] <shiftplusone> raspberrypi-bootloader or raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel along with a kernel package... which I forget the exact name of, but it has rpi in it
[22:22] <DanDare> I see... thanks
[22:22] <shiftplusone> which is it?
[22:22] <shiftplusone> do you have raspberrypi-bootloader installed?
[22:22] <shiftplusone> if so, that will update your kernel
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[22:23] <DanDare> shiftplusone: Im not sure. I will check. I just did the netinst and installed common packages im used to
[22:23] <shiftplusone> if you have the raspbian kernel package installed, that will only save the kernel in /boot, but not as kernel.img, so it will be pretty much ignored
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[22:23] <DanDare> ok
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[22:25] <DanDare> must test also if 'apt-cacher-ng' will work on raspbian. That's a good apt local proxy
[22:25] <ShorTie> oh boy, usb firmware hack http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/01/no-one-is-safe-the-usb-has-been-hacked/
[22:26] <clever> if its messing with the endpoint descriptors, it will likely only work on a single os
[22:26] <clever> and either blue screen or fail to enumerate on anything not targeted
[22:26] <clever> and if its just a .exe in the folder, thats old news
[22:27] <DanDare> ShorTie: surely a "terrible kind of paranoia" god
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[23:41] <DanDare> should I dare trying to install tomcat on pi ?
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