#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-08-09

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[1:29] <pksato> tubes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WCWejeRR_s
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[1:43] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf
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[1:58] <Poison[BLX]> pksato: neat! also, that's a lot of ridiculously low tolerance manufacturing equipment shown there.
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[3:19] <abnormal> awfully quiet, heh?
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[3:38] <blockh34d> boo
[3:38] <blockh34d> !!
[3:39] <blockh34d> scary
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[3:40] <benny-> -,-
[3:42] <abnormal> well, abt time some ppl woke up
[3:42] <benny-> 3:42am here :>
[3:43] <abnormal> really? it's 9:45 pm here...
[3:44] <plugwash> I think the population of this channel is more european than american
[3:45] <abnormal> of course, it's RPi ppl..
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[3:46] <abnormal> so I think that the ones in US have quite a few RPis...
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[3:52] <blockh34d> i only have 3
[3:53] <blockh34d> some people i know on irc have way more than that
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[3:56] <abnormal> well I have 4 and a BBB
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[3:57] <miyako> hi
[3:57] <abnormal> yo...
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[3:58] * plugwash has arround 5 pi's, a BBB, a beagleboard xm, an IMX53 quickstart board, a wandboard quad, a 2GB nitrogen6x and an odriod U2
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[3:59] <abnormal> well, congrats, plugwash
[4:00] <miyako> I bought a raspberry pi model b not too long ago (the day before the B+ came out actually) but now I have no idea what to do with it
[4:00] <abnormal> I have a piface daughter bd on one, a uno on another, and quickstart on third one and chat on this one..
[4:01] <abnormal> sell it and buy the B+
[4:02] <miyako> abnormal: not sure what a B+ would get me when I don't know what to do with the model b lol
[4:03] <abnormal> ok, then go to www.raspberrypi.org and browse around and read what other ppl have been doing with them.. I am using one to chat right now...
[4:05] <miyako> abnormal: I was thinking about setting up an IRC bouncer on mine; maybe I should hook up a USB hard drive and use it for a git server
[4:05] <miyako> I was thinking about doing some opencv stuff on it too but I'm not sure how well that will run
[4:07] <abnormal> well you will have to do it to find out, I don't know how to do those, but ppl have done so much that I'm sure someone wud help you get started...
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[4:08] <miyako> abnormal: yeah, my biggest problem has just been commiting to a project, I guess I showed up here hoping to see discussions about people working on stuff and get motivated
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[4:10] <abnormal> yes, I am surprised this is not like #linuxmint-chat channel, that channel is a miracle, ppl in there are so wonderful...
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[4:20] <blockh34d> miyako: i have a media player UI i made that i like to use with my PI, it makes it into a little bit of a media center while you use it for other stuff
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[4:20] <blockh34d> its no XBMC, dont get me wrong.. if you want a REAL media center, XBMC might be the only way to go
[4:21] <miyako> our media center is netflix
[4:21] <blockh34d> but if you just wanna play movies and music while you surf web or whatever, maybe try out http://store.raspberrypi.org/projects/scamp
[4:21] <abnormal> nice... yes a lot of ppl are using them to do video streaming..
[4:21] <abnormal> cool, go for it...
[4:21] <blockh34d> yes i've been really surprised at the positive response i've gotten from scamp
[4:22] <blockh34d> it was really just a test to try out releasing something on pi store
[4:22] <blockh34d> but its been well recieved, very high rating etc
[4:22] <miyako> I was thinking about trying to use opencv and doing like a kiosk system with it that does some facial detection
[4:22] <blockh34d> please let me know if you or anyone try it and have any suggestions, or (ack!) problems
[4:22] <miyako> and using it to set up a kiosk for seating and recording video messages for our wedding
[4:22] <blockh34d> oh yah that'd be cool
[4:23] <blockh34d> someone had a squirrel feeder cam project here
[4:23] <blockh34d> sounds like it might be similar enough its worth takin ga look at
[4:24] <blockh34d> yall wanna see my raspberry pi game? i posted a video of it recently
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[4:24] <blockh34d> apologies to anyone sick of seeing the link, i've probably pasted it a lot in the last day
[4:25] <blockh34d> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7HDOxr7Jl0
[4:25] <blockh34d> still working on it of course but maybe its good enough to get my kickstarter going
[4:25] <abnormal> yeh how do I watch u toob on pi?
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[4:25] <blockh34d> abnormal: youtube-dl is what i use
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[4:26] <blockh34d> soon i'll have it built into my media player
[4:26] <blockh34d> but for now theres a little trick you can use sec i'll type it out
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[4:27] <miyako> the text ui on scamp looks pretty nice
[4:27] <blockh34d> omxplayer $(youtube-dl -g M7HDOxr7Jl0)
[4:27] <blockh34d> that would play my youtube video using omxplayer
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[4:27] <blockh34d> miyako: thanks!
[4:27] <miyako> I really have no use for a media center, but I can appreciate the screenshots :)
[4:28] <blockh34d> yah i like text ui's for some stuff.. nice for this since you can use SSH to control the media playlist while its playing without messing up whats playing
[4:28] <abnormal> omxplayer?
[4:28] <blockh34d> abnormal: yah omxplayer is a command line video/audio player that should be already on most raspbian/pi setups
[4:28] <blockh34d> its the best player for Pi i think
[4:28] <blockh34d> my scamp app uses it, behind the scenes, to actually play the video/audio
[4:29] <blockh34d> so does XBMC i think
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[4:30] <blockh34d> btw i've found luakit to be a nice browser for rpi... everything else feels kinda 'heavy'
[4:30] <abnormal> so do I activate it first or just the one line you gave?
[4:31] <blockh34d> probably need to install youtube-dl first
[4:31] <blockh34d> like:
[4:31] <blockh34d> sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[4:31] <blockh34d> but after that, should be able to paste that one line like i did
[4:31] <blockh34d> btw omxplayer has no visible interface, thats normal
[4:32] <blockh34d> if you wnat an interface, use youtube-dl to save the file to disk somewhere and then play it with scamp
[4:33] <abnormal> I c.. have to wait til mon, my data usage is almost maxed...
[4:33] <blockh34d> ah yah i know how that goes
[4:33] <miyako> I never installed x on mine
[4:33] <blockh34d> was using 3g for all my inent for a long time
[4:34] <blockh34d> miyako: sure you nee dto? x was already on mine, stock with raspbian
[4:34] <blockh34d> btw scamp and omxplayer both work fine in or out of X
[4:34] <blockh34d> they dont need X
[4:34] <miyako> blockh34d: hmm, maybe it's on there but it's certainly just booting up to a terminal
[4:34] <blockh34d> but you do need X to run the pi store app and install scamp, for now (working on that though)
[4:34] <blockh34d> miyako: its probably on there, try startx sometime
[4:34] <blockh34d> probably starts it righ tup
[4:35] <miyako> which is fine, I have a USB wifi dongle and power going into it and it's sitting on the back of a bookshelf headless with ssh enabled
[4:35] <blockh34d> nice
[4:35] <blockh34d> yah fyi scamp was speicifically made to be compatible with that operation
[4:35] <miyako> blockh34d: well honestly even on my laptop I just use X as a resource intensive terminal multiplexer
[4:35] <blockh34d> 100% functional through ssh
[4:35] <blockh34d> yah i have been pleasantly surprised by x's performance
[4:35] <blockh34d> really does pretty good
[4:36] <miyako> blockh34d: yeah, I mean it's nice that it's an option
[4:36] <blockh34d> i hope to make games on the pi
[4:36] <blockh34d> i feel like most people arent really using it for that... but maybe some people would like it
[4:36] <blockh34d> hopefully, we'll see
[4:37] <miyako> other than the kiosk I was thinking about just using it to play around with ghc's ARM backend (which is built on LLVM I think)
[4:37] <blockh34d> yah i finally got llvm compiled here once
[4:37] <blockh34d> only took 3 days of solid compiling
[4:37] <miyako> I should set up a cross-compile environment
[4:37] <blockh34d> but then it didnt really work out for what i was trying anyways
[4:37] <blockh34d> yes for sure
[4:38] <miyako> but I'm not sure how much longer I'll have this laptop
[4:38] <blockh34d> only way to go for rpi, my llvm compile would have gone much faster
[4:38] <blockh34d> i use python
[4:38] <blockh34d> tired of waiting for compiles
[4:38] <blockh34d> python runs fast enough for most of my purposes
[4:38] <miyako> I've never really used python much
[4:38] <blockh34d> scamp, my games etc
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[4:38] <blockh34d> my games get 50+fps at 1920x1080 with python
[4:38] <miyako> but I was thinking about learning it for the opencv stuff since it probably is better than dealing with C++
[4:39] <blockh34d> to me thats 'fast enough'
[4:39] <blockh34d> yah probably
[4:39] <blockh34d> also, again, 'fast enough'
[4:39] <blockh34d> i feel like as soon as you hit magical 'fast enough' speeds, now its time to see how easy you can get the code
[4:39] <miyako> blockh34d: yeah, I mean I know python can be reasonably performant since often times the underlying libraries are using optimized C implementations instead of pure python
[4:39] <blockh34d> right
[4:39] <blockh34d> the speed difference is getting more minimal every day
[4:40] <blockh34d> c is and always will be faster... but by less and less all the time
[4:40] <blockh34d> and is it really THAT much faster? nah, i dont think so
[4:40] <miyako> blockh34d: I'm not convinced that C will never be surpassed, already I suspect that for most people higher level languages would be faster if they don't already know C
[4:40] <blockh34d> if you ever have python questions you can ask/msg me them i dont mind
[4:40] <blockh34d> i just sit on irc all day anyways
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[4:41] <miyako> right now I'm having to learn ruby for work
[4:41] <blockh34d> miyako: well i hope you're right cause i certainly prefer python
[4:41] <blockh34d> but i'm ok with either
[4:41] <blockh34d> c just takes longer, for me
[4:41] <miyako> I like C, and it's probably the language I'm best with
[4:41] <miyako> but I write a lot of Haskell lately too
[4:42] <blockh34d> i've been thinking about getting into haskell
[4:42] <blockh34d> no experience with it yet
[4:42] <blockh34d> but i figure haskell, D, and ruby would all be smart things for me to learn
[4:42] <blockh34d> no need for any of them yet but i like to stay current
[4:42] <blockh34d> and i totally skipped .net
[4:42] <miyako> blockh34d: I have gotten several invitations to interview simply because I have haskell on my resume :)
[4:43] <blockh34d> miyako: excelent i will keep tha tin mind
[4:43] <blockh34d> i really wish i could get a job
[4:43] <blockh34d> its part of my goals with my apps, use them as a resume
[4:43] <blockh34d> i have no real schooling at any of this, and my professional experience is waaaay outta date
[4:44] <blockh34d> so i thought if i could get a nice spot on the pistore, maybe a successful kickstarter, maybe that'd be good enough to get me in the door
[4:44] <miyako> blockh34d: if you're willing to take an entry level position there are always companies willing to hire someone without a degree but who has a github page and completed projects
[4:44] <blockh34d> excellent thats my hope
[4:44] <miyako> our last few hires where I work have either not had a degree or had one in a non-cs field
[4:44] <blockh34d> i wish pistore was bigger
[4:45] <blockh34d> if you sort by ratings, my app is #1
[4:45] <blockh34d> but thats not very impressive when the store has, total, 100 apps/games
[4:45] <benny-> and 2 customers^^
[4:45] <benny-> :P
[4:45] <blockh34d> total
[4:45] <blockh34d> lol
[4:45] <miyako> blockh34d: do you have the code published on github?
[4:45] <blockh34d> miyako: not yet, hoping to use that as a perk in my kickstarter
[4:46] <blockh34d> like if i get kickstarted enough i release all the code MIT license
[4:46] <blockh34d> otherwise i will anyways
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[4:46] <blockh34d> but hopefully i find a way to make some money
[4:46] <blockh34d> without charging anyone for the app that is
[4:46] <blockh34d> i refuse to do that
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[4:47] <miyako> blockh34d: I think people are more inclined to donate to something they feel like is real
[4:47] <miyako> why not release the current version then kickstart a "version 2" to get some income to add features and stuff?
[4:47] <blockh34d> miyako: can't put that cat back in the bag
[4:48] <blockh34d> i want to be 100% sure first
[4:48] <blockh34d> i was homeless too recently to have no concern for finances
[4:48] <blockh34d> i wish i didnt need income, i'd be all FOSS all day
[4:49] <benny-> ^^
[4:49] <blockh34d> so now i'm just trying to find income angles that dont rely on the end users
[4:49] <blockh34d> like if i could make a nice enough game engine, maybe rpi foundation helps me out in exchange for releaseing the source FOSS, or i dunno, something like that
[4:50] <blockh34d> probably all a pipe dream
[4:50] <miyako> blockh34d: if you're going to make a game just try to make something that runs on win/linux/osx/android and try to sell it in the app store
[4:50] <blockh34d> i should go back to hanging drywall
[4:51] <blockh34d> nah i hate those platforms with exception of linux
[4:51] <blockh34d> all propped up with slave labor
[4:51] <blockh34d> i like rpi cause its nonprofit and some of them are made in uk
[4:51] <miyako> blockh34d: me too but I'd certainly target them if I were trying to release proprietary software to make money
[4:51] <blockh34d> so i want people using rpis
[4:51] <blockh34d> i dont want the money that badly
[4:51] <blockh34d> i'd rather starve to death than touch a mac
[4:52] <benny-> but mac users are the ones which are most willed to pay for software :>
[4:52] <blockh34d> oh well
[4:52] * miyako has been thinking about buying a macbook pro
[4:52] <blockh34d> i really, really, really dislike child labor
[4:52] <blockh34d> i realize theres only so much i can escape it
[4:52] <blockh34d> so sorry if that sounds... pointlessly idealistic
[4:53] <blockh34d> but i can keep apple at arms length so i will even if i take a hit biz wise because of it
[4:53] <miyako> blockh34d: everyone has their things
[4:53] <blockh34d> yah mines a weird cluster of conflicting goals
[4:54] <blockh34d> probably not goingt o work out too good for me in the long run
[4:54] <miyako> while I hate the necessity of child labor and wish that there was enough economic equality in the world that children weren't forced into labor
[4:54] <blockh34d> theres no necessity for it
[4:54] <blockh34d> thats the lie
[4:54] <miyako> I also realize that in the immediate term for many kids the child labor that we abhor might be a necessary means of survival
[4:54] <benny-> child labor?
[4:54] <blockh34d> theres lots of ready and willing labor in places with human rights
[4:54] <blockh34d> they just need to be paid a living wage
[4:55] <blockh34d> and we're not doing those kids any favor with those precious jobs
[4:55] <blockh34d> we tell ourselves we are, but thats just justification
[4:55] <benny-> does it mean child work?
[4:55] <blockh34d> would you work for a dime a day?
[4:56] <blockh34d> to each their own
[4:56] <blockh34d> i dont want to sound judgemental i just hate childlabor i can't imagine its so accepted
[4:57] <abnormal> yeh I heard that some countries send the junk IT stuff to africa for kids to burn and gather up the molten metals, sick...
[4:57] <blockh34d> and india
[4:57] <blockh34d> just has them walking through the ashes, bare foot, picking ot scraps of metal
[4:57] <blockh34d> while that toxic crap still smoulders
[4:57] <blockh34d> and thats what they get instead of school
[4:58] <blockh34d> not to mention how we get the resource minerals we need to make this stuff
[4:58] <miyako> blockh34d: you do sound judgemental and I think you want to, but that's fine, everyone has their beliefs and while I wish we lived in a world where I could agree the pragmatist in me is afraid that if apple weren't having kids making laptops then warlords would probably have them reloading bullets
[4:58] <blockh34d> i can't even discuss that in this channel it is not suitable for polite conversation
[4:58] <blockh34d> miyako: yes thats the attitude i struggle against actually
[4:59] <blockh34d> internal self justification for never ending greed
[4:59] <blockh34d> 'we're helping them. Back to work!'
[4:59] <blockh34d> but its ok i understand
[4:59] <blockh34d> where i'm at is so far removed from where the average consumer is standing that it just seems crazy right now, i'm sure
[5:00] <blockh34d> i'm hoping to use 3d printable tech to basically undercut those slavedrivers
[5:00] <blockh34d> so we start making our own stuff, for free
[5:01] <blockh34d> until the slave drivers simply have no more profit left to weaponize
[5:01] <benny-> where does the plastic come from? :>
[5:01] <blockh34d> benny-: recycled trash
[5:01] <blockh34d> i'm working on makng my own filament makers
[5:01] <blockh34d> its a challenge but not impossible
[5:01] <blockh34d> filastruder for example
[5:01] <blockh34d> also running the whole thing off solar
[5:01] <benny-> sounds nice
[5:02] <blockh34d> sec i have a pic of the first arduino i made
[5:02] <blockh34d> http://postimg.org/image/mbndqosvd/
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[5:02] <blockh34d> all i made there was teh 'board'
[5:02] <blockh34d> the rest of course from existing production methods, for now
[5:03] <blockh34d> but i'm working on ways to print certain components, resistors, eventually diodes and then transistors
[5:03] <blockh34d> over time we'll be able to print more and more of that
[5:03] <blockh34d> within 10 years we may not need the suicide nets any more
[5:04] <benny-> here you get refund (which you pay first..) when returning plastic bottles
[5:04] <benny-> they get crushed, and sold to china, which make plastic clothes out of it xD
[5:04] <benny-> those fleece sleaves
[5:05] <abnormal> wow that's quite a make up of a home made arduino...
[5:05] <benny-> -a+e
[5:05] <blockh34d> abnormal: theres some advantages to how i'm doing it, already
[5:05] <blockh34d> example that board is lighter and stronger than normal pcb
[5:05] <blockh34d> also flexible
[5:05] <blockh34d> also i'm working on ways to basically embed all that into a solid chunk of nylon/silicone
[5:05] <blockh34d> so its mostly waterproof
[5:06] <blockh34d> but thats just the prototype
[5:06] <blockh34d> the real 'final' on the design will look much less hacked together
[5:06] <abnormal> kuil.. go for it...
[5:06] <blockh34d> thanks! its getting there
[5:06] <blockh34d> i call the process 'EWW' for 'embedded wire wrap'
[5:07] <blockh34d> also because its kinda ugly
[5:07] <benny-> embedded chaos :D
[5:07] <blockh34d> yah it'll be less crazy looking soon
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[5:11] <benny-> i like the idea of using plastic trash to create 3d printer material
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[5:12] <benny-> do you have any links with more information about that topic?
[5:12] <benny-> afaik ABS is best for 3D printing?!
[5:12] <nerdboy> need to design/build some new met sensors...
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[5:13] <abnormal> use a wood chipper to chew it up...
[5:13] <blockh34d> back
[5:13] <blockh34d> benny-: filastruder
[5:13] <benny-> thx
[5:13] <blockh34d> benny-: i prefer nylon btw
[5:13] <benny-> it's also thermoplast?
[5:13] <blockh34d> lotta people find PLA to be the easiest to print but its very unlikely you'd find any in trash
[5:14] <blockh34d> not sure what a thermoplast is sorry
[5:14] <benny-> plastic which you can melt without burning it
[5:15] <blockh34d> oh yah nylon is for sure then
[5:15] <blockh34d> that uno print is nylon
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[5:15] <blockh34d> nylon is so much stronger than abs/pla i cant even describe it
[5:15] <blockh34d> at least 100x stronger
[5:15] <abnormal> how about acrylic?
[5:16] <benny-> acryl is no thermoplast afaik
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[5:18] <blockh34d> have not tried acrylic yet
[5:18] <blockh34d> not sure how well that would work
[5:18] <blockh34d> ultimately i'd like to melt down doped silicon
[5:18] <blockh34d> print NPN junctions etc
[5:19] <blockh34d> that'll be pretty magical
[5:19] <blockh34d> maybe fiberglass would work for that
[5:19] <blockh34d> i have a special hotend i've made that gets ridiculously hot
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[5:19] <blockh34d> i think it could almost melt down aluminum
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[5:21] <blockh34d> hard to keep it on for very long right now though i need better insulating materials
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[5:29] <benny-> how are nylon parts marked? PA6?
[5:33] <blockh34d> not sure i havent actually found a lot of nylon stuff 'in the wild'
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[5:34] <blockh34d> part of what i hope to do someday though is modify the standard printer firmware to have it bake a recycle mark into everything it ever prints
[5:34] <blockh34d> based on what filament is currently loaded etc
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[5:34] <blockh34d> but its a tall order
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[5:40] <benny-> really need access to 3d pritner
[5:41] <benny-> building parts from polyester resin and glass fiber seems so 1990
[5:42] <HoloPed> how do I kill a pygame app running in fullscreen ?
[5:43] <benny-> from console by killing the python process :>
[5:45] <HoloPed> how do I bring up the console ?
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[5:46] <benny-> ssh, telnet or if you have keyboard connected maybe by CTRL+ALT+F1
[5:46] <benny-> or F2 or F3, if your distribution supports that
[5:46] <benny-> also you could try ALT+F4 before
[5:46] <benny-> with attached keyboard
[5:47] <HoloPed> ok thanks
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[5:50] <HoloPed> none of that seems to work
[5:51] <benny-> then i have no idea
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[6:01] <neutrino> benny- seeedstudio does 3d printing i think
[6:02] <benny-> the commercial are to expensive for my needs :/
[6:02] <neutrino> check it out ; ive always found seeedstudio quite reasonable
[6:03] <neutrino> they have a wide range of diy hacker stuff
[6:03] <neutrino> https://www.seeedstudio.com/service/index.php?r=st/3d
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[6:04] <benny-> yea looking on their website right now, they are on the other side of the world xD
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[6:05] <benny-> here they take ~1$/cm�
[6:06] <benny-> don't know how that compares to seeedstudio
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[6:09] <benny-> for 100$ i could get 100cm� 3d print or 10000cm� polyester resin + fiber glass
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[6:20] <abnormal> try on amazon.com
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[7:47] <RoBo_V> hey techTalkers, Morning !
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[8:31] <DigiSaint> hello, can anyone recommend a small-ish audio amplifier that I can use to power two 3 inch speakers and a 4inch subwoofer? a usb sound card could also work
[8:32] <DigiSaint> i have an amp (and speakers) that I scavenged from another device, but the amp board is too big to fit in the box I want to put it in
[8:35] <DanDare> DigiSaint, talking in terms of watts is better. A 3 inch speaker wattage can vary, really?
[8:36] <DanDare> whats normally/mean for a 3inch one? 3~4 watt?
[8:36] <DigiSaint> each 3 inch speaker is 4 ohms, 2 w
[8:37] <DanDare> I see
[8:37] <DigiSaint> the 4 inch (sub) is 6 ohms, 5w
[8:37] <DanDare> so 9w total
[8:37] <DigiSaint> sorry yes
[8:39] <DigiSaint> this is my first pi project and first time working with audio, so i went to a few sites like adafruit and found some amps on there
[8:39] <DigiSaint> but they are all two channel
[8:39] <DanDare> DigiSaint, so take a look into amplifier you can buy within this wattage spec. Or take it from other equipment from the bin.
[8:40] <DanDare> But sorry, im not aware of any specific option. It can be anything within that spec.
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[8:41] <DigiSaint> know any good places I could start looking? I dont really know what to search for other than "raspberry pi amp subwoofer"
[8:41] <DigiSaint> i suppose knowing the wattage id at least be able to rule out whether or not it would be powerful enough if i did find one
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[8:46] <DanDare> DigiSaint, well. Maybe ebay. But you need to take a look how to wire or whats suitable for the subwoofer. I guess its possible to have it running out of 2 channels, using passive crossover
[8:46] <DanDare> DigiSaint, this looks interesting: http://www.bcae1.com/passxovr.htm
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[8:47] <UnaClocker> I just installed OpenWRT on one of my Raspberrry Pi, works pretty well.
[8:47] <DanDare> DigiSaint, but maybe too complicated or out of scope to you. The usual place to look for parts is ebay but Im not sure what would be better for you, locally
[8:47] <DanDare> UnaClocker, theres a OpenWRT for AMR?
[8:48] <DanDare> *ARM
[8:48] <UnaClocker> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/raspberry_pi
[8:48] <DigiSaint> thanks @Dandare, appreciate it
[8:49] <UnaClocker> It's DD-WRT that have buried their heads in the sand and are pretending ARM doesn't exist.
[8:49] <DanDare> UnaClocker, incredible... i didnt knew it.. sure will take a look into it
[8:49] <DanDare> DigiSaint, np. Sorry about not being of more help
[8:50] <UnaClocker> Yeah, as easy as anything on the Pi, just toss the image on a card, boot up, and then treat it like a router, point a browser at it's IP address..
[8:50] <DanDare> I actually have DD-WRT on my dlink router
[8:50] <UnaClocker> Good use for a 256mb Pi, since most routers have 32-64mb.. Nice and roomy.. Used a 2GB card too, it's using like 14mb of it.. haha..
[8:51] <DanDare> UnaClocker, sure. I guess if it will accept the wifi dongles for a complete wifi setup
[8:51] <UnaClocker> Yeah, haven't tried that one yet.
[8:52] <DanDare> but anyway, that plus a switch for a cool cabled router already
[8:53] <UnaClocker> :)
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[8:53] <DanDare> UnaClocker, i have my pi for 2 weeks now... being used to it :p
[8:54] <UnaClocker> :) Sweet, get the B+?
[8:54] <DanDare> No, just the plain B. How about you ?
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[8:54] <DanDare> Ah sorry, you said, 256Mb, so the first version I suppose
[8:54] <UnaClocker> I've got 6 Pi, all B's, but one of them I modded into a 512mb model A.
[8:55] <UnaClocker> Yeah, 3 of my Pi are 256mb models.
[8:55] <DanDare> UnaClocker, i had a hard time desoldering the USB ports to fix the USB hotplug thing
[8:55] <UnaClocker> It's amazing how little power the model A draws, I hope they come out with an A+, the power draw would be under 100mA..
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[8:56] <DanDare> but it was a stupid thing,.. it was possible to solve that without desoldering it
[8:56] <UnaClocker> heh
[8:56] <DanDare> the RoHs soldering stressed me (and the board)
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[8:57] <UnaClocker> hehe, yeah.
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[8:57] <DanDare> UnaClocker, yeah.. I heard about the power consumption on the A model
[8:57] <DanDare> for mine I got 400~500mA without anything connected
[8:57] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I did the mod because I have a Lapdock, and it seriously improved the battery life.
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[8:59] <DanDare> UnaClocker, anyway, hows life? Long time not talk to you. The go kart? still rocking ? :D
[9:00] <UnaClocker> Nah, one of the motor controllers has a short in it that I don't think I can track down without completely desoldering the whole thing. So the cart is pretty well done unless I get motivated to try again on it..
[9:00] <DanDare> model B+ got better power management than B also.from linear to switching mode supply for the 3.3V IIRC
[9:00] <DanDare> I see
[9:00] <UnaClocker> My son crashed it into a brand new Subaru too, that was unfortunate.. haha.. He thought it was in forward, but was still in reverse.. Doh!
[9:00] <DanDare> oh my... !
[9:01] <UnaClocker> Yeah, if they put those switchmode power supplies on the A, it should see similar (percentage wise) improvements in power efficiency..
[9:01] <DanDare> i hope only the kart got hurt on that
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[9:01] <UnaClocker> Nah, the Subaru's bumper needed a new paint job.
[9:01] <DanDare> heh
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[9:02] <DanDare> Ive been waaay away from electronics from the past 1/2 year (unfortunately)
[9:02] <DanDare> or 2 perhaps
[9:03] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I haven't had much time to do much since about Christmas.. Stopped selling on Tindie when they threatened to raise fees through the roof.. Killed my motivation.
[9:03] <DanDare> I see
[9:04] <DanDare> i have a bunch of parts i purchased (even before pi), still waiting, collecting a bit of dust already
[9:06] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I've been working on "resto-modding" a vintage Zenith radio. I might put a Pi in it, though I recently picked up a BeagleBoneBlack that'd be better suited to the task.. Haven't really decided for sure yet.
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[9:06] <UnaClocker> I picked up a USB TV tuner to use as SDR (software defined radio), I'd really like to get that going inside the radio.
[9:07] <DanDare> Looks cool. Inside a vintage radio... win
[9:08] <DanDare> for my part, the restoration of a philco "transglobe" radio still on the todo list
[9:08] <UnaClocker> :)
[9:09] <DanDare> its a kickass radio http://mlb-s2-p.mlstatic.com/radio-philco-transglobe-9fxs-fmoc-impecavel-u-dono-14671-MLB3316558722_102012-F.jpg
[9:10] <DanDare> one of the first solid state radios
[9:10] <UnaClocker> Very nice. :) Is that a Ford (car company) logo?
[9:11] <DanDare> I can hear BBC of london, in portuguese, broadcasted from london in it :D
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[9:11] <DanDare> UnaClocker, yeah.. Philco/Ford worked together to put various devices on the market in late 70's
[9:11] <DanDare> a joint venture thing
[9:12] <UnaClocker> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ytYd_yfDrE Here's a first play with mine. It didn't come with a needle for that dial, and that's not the one it would have had, but it looks so at home on there..
[9:12] <DanDare> I remember a pong clone of philco/ford also
[9:13] <DanDare> UnaClocker, sweet.. and thats the digital reception already? Looks like just analog
[9:14] <RoBo_V> Guys which best cheap wireless wifi adaptor for RPi
[9:14] <UnaClocker> It's a stepper motor driven by an Arduino.. The sound was added afterwards.. hehe. ;)
[9:14] <DanDare> hahahah I see
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[9:15] <DanDare> RoBo_V, people likes that "EDUP" small, ralink rt5370 based chip one. But I got not much luck with it. Whats working for me is some older wifi stick
[9:15] <DanDare> but maybe I just got a defective one, not sure
[9:16] <UnaClocker> I just use the tiny little one, cost like $5 shipped. Works like a champ..
[9:16] <DanDare> I got also other mt7610 chip one, also no luck. Got 1 working out of 3
[9:16] <RoBo_V> But every stick should work, I thinking of cheap Chinese wifi adaptor
[9:16] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[9:16] <UnaClocker> http://www.neonsquirt.com/lapdock2.jpg You can see my wifi USB adapter there..
[9:16] <DanDare> good morning
[9:16] <RoBo_V> DanDare http://www.aliexpress.com/item/300Mbps-300M-Wireless-USB-WiFi-Wi-Fi-Wi-Fi-Adapter-With-External-Antenna/753381184.html
[9:17] <RoBo_V> morning gordonDrogon
[9:18] <DanDare> RoBo_V, you must check if it will run on pi. Pi people are used more with this one: http://pt.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-150M-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Network-Networking-Card-LAN-Adapter-with-Antenna-Ralink-RT5370-With-retail/1301128148.html?promotionVersion=1
[9:18] <DanDare> *more used
[9:19] <RoBo_V> so its like only speicifc is therem not like anyone will work... right DanDare ?
[9:19] <DigiSaint> RoBo_V, this is the one I purchased for mine and it works great http://www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7811Un-Adapter-Raspberry-Supports/dp/B003MTTJOY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407568726&sr=8-1&keywords=edimax+wireless+adapter
[9:20] <RoBo_V> DigiSaint: must be limited range ?
[9:20] <RoBo_V> less range I guess
[9:20] <DanDare> RoBo_V, yeah, not all of them will work. Manufacturer must provide linux drivers. And you will need also drivers compiled for ARM (whats not usual). So better take a look what people are using and getting success with
[9:21] <RoBo_V> Right DanDare
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[9:23] <DigiSaint> RoBo_V, I've not really given it a range test, but it has performed well on my home network
[9:23] <RoBo_V> Ok
[9:25] <UnaClocker> I've actually been really astounded with the range on my nano adapter.
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[9:28] <RoBo_V> UnaClocker: which one wifi adaptor ?
[9:29] <UnaClocker> http://www.ebay.com/itm/161343854594 One of these
[9:30] <DanDare> its definitely the one I got thats defective
[9:31] <DanDare> everybody says their nano rt5370 adaptor just works, but not mine
[9:31] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I've had 4 of them at this point. I killed one of them by smacking it on something while it was plugged into my lapdock.. heh..
[9:31] <DanDare> lol
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[9:34] <UnaClocker> Must go to bed. Goodnight :)
[9:34] <DanDare> take care UnaClocker, have a nice sleep
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[9:35] <RoBo_V> UnaClocker: ty for sharing
[9:35] <RoBo_V> good night
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[9:41] <DanDare> Now im trying this for first time: plugging a external (self powered), USB hard disk on pi. It wont detect the HDD. It's supposed to just work or there's possibly some necessary voodoo?
[9:43] <DanDare> 'fdisk -l' doesn't list the disk
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[9:45] <DigiSaint> DanDare, you mean an actual mechanical hard drive not a thumb drive?
[9:45] <RoBo_V> DanDare: strange
[9:45] <RoBo_V> I need to insert myself when set up
[9:46] <[Saint]> insert *yourself*?
[9:46] <DanDare> DigiSaint, a mechanical one, but behind a enclosure and USB interface
[9:46] <[Saint]> ...sounds painful and/or kinky.
[9:46] <DigiSaint> ive not tried to plug my external drive to my pi yet, but I had no trouble with a flash drive
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[9:46] <DanDare> I see DigiSaint
[9:46] <DigiSaint> hmm,and it doesn't show up at all or just won't mount?
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[9:47] <DanDare> it doesn't show up with 'fdisk -l'
[9:47] <[Saint]> Your avarage external drive with a spinning platter is almost certainly going to draw too much from a pi.
[9:47] <[Saint]> You'll absolutely need a powered hub, unless its a B+.
[9:47] <DanDare> [Saint], it got his own power supply
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[9:47] <[Saint]> Aha.
[9:48] <DanDare> let me try with a simple USB thumb drive (as test)
[9:50] <DanDare> Ah gah, dumb me. My fault. Had the the tail not connected properly on the HD side.
[9:51] * DanDare is embarrassed.
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[9:52] <RoBo_V> DanDare: worked ?
[9:52] <DanDare> RoBo_V, yeah it just worked. Totally my fault
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[9:53] <RoBo_V> thank god
[9:53] <DanDare> yeah
[9:56] <DanDare> will do something that will really simplify my life. turn pi into a passive backup unit that detects when my lap is connected and perform backups automatically
[9:56] <[Saint]> wouldn't you want it only when idle?
[9:57] <[Saint]> nuts to waiting for the IO hit from a full backup to die down every time the laptop comes up.
[9:57] <DanDare> thats the goos thing about pi: it can be zillion of useful things that you are not up to set on whole usual computers. for its lower power footprint, size etc
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[9:57] <DanDare> [Saint], you mean, when pi is idle ?
[9:57] <[Saint]> no, the laptop.
[9:57] <DanDare> Ah ok
[9:57] <[Saint]> you don't want to try a backup when you actually want to use the laptop.
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[9:58] <DanDare> [Saint], not in my case. My important folders doesnt change too much. So like it will do just be very fine
[9:58] <DigiSaint> anyone in here familiar with Mopidy?
[9:59] <DanDare> and being slow over wireless = slow and constant. Dont forget (a bit saved is a bit earned)
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[9:59] <[Saint]> my entire point is that you're putting system load on the device when *you* want to be using it.
[9:59] <[Saint]> ie. the absolute wrong time.
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[10:00] <DanDare> [Saint], well. Absolute wrong time... the backup script will not be running then :p
[10:01] <[Saint]> I...what?
[10:01] <[Saint]> Are you deliberately missing the point or not understanding what I'm saying?
[10:02] <DanDare> [Saint], but the point is: If I produce 100Mb of data in the morning... it will be backed up in very little time. And I can just shut off windows sharing the folder if I really want/need pi leaving laptop in complete peace
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[10:03] <[Saint]> that's an extraordinarily odd way to handle such a thing.
[10:03] <DanDare> the point here is: no need to manually attach the external HD to the laptop to make the backup. Ideally I should make backups everytime. So a automatic backup means one less thing to worry about
[10:04] <DanDare> I dont think so
[10:04] <DanDare> having up to date backups sounds odd to you?
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[10:04] <[Saint]> Not at all.
[10:04] <[Saint]> Backups that don't take into account the idle state of the machine, however...
[10:05] <DanDare> So, whats odd about having pi doing it for me?
[10:05] <[Saint]> The timing, primarily.
[10:05] <[Saint]> Backups should be totally transparent.
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[10:06] <lost_soul> maybe have it backup while you are on your lunch break and at some point after work (assuming this is a work system)
[10:06] <DanDare> Its. I have a apache producing exact depilatories of whats was backed up, when, how much etc. I have similar scheme working on office already, will just port it to pi
[10:07] <DanDare> *relatories. wt heck? Do i have auto spell checker enabled? (i dont think so ...)
[10:07] <DanDare> lost_soul, no need. there are small (but important), chunks of data
[10:08] <lost_soul> why do you need apache, wouldn't it be easier to just have a log file created?
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[10:08] <[Saint]> or, y'know, a dedicated versioning system...
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[10:08] <DanDare> I dont need apache, its just for convenience. Open browser, hit a link and bang, theres the log
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[10:08] <lost_soul> [Saint]: I've always wanted to try setting up backups with a versioning system.. As of yet I haven't done so.
[10:09] <[Saint]> very trivial.
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[10:09] <DanDare> the final task is just have the same backup mirror at office, also at home
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[10:10] <DanDare> ( in the case office burns in fire or get robbed by the night)
[10:11] <[Saint]> That's what fire safes are for.
[10:11] <[Saint]> coincidentally, it would protect against both listed scenarios.
[10:11] <DanDare> to save your precious data? forget it ..... it does not work
[10:12] <[Saint]> Yeah. Ok. Says you.
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[10:12] <[Saint]> You're quite wrong...but, OK. Sure.
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[10:16] <lost_soul> the only problem (if you can call it that) that I can see with using a fire safe is the fact that the backup media must be placed in the safe. This means it isn't as hands off as it should be and like anytime people must interact with technology the chances of sommething going wrong increase.
[10:16] <DanDare> Youre saying to me, in a daily basis, open the safe, plug all the connectors, make that backup and store back the HHD inside the safe ?
[10:16] <[Saint]> And, why would you need to open it?
[10:17] * [Saint] sighs
[10:17] <[Saint]> loudly.
[10:17] <DanDare> hahaha
[10:17] <DanDare> [Saint], yeah, maybe im just outdated. How to make a backup with the thing inside a safe?
[10:18] <[Saint]> My whole server is in a firebox. :)
[10:18] <DanDare> Ah ok... thats a completely other approach that surely works
[10:18] <lost_soul> so you have holes cut out of it for cables and such... Wouldn't that increase the risk of fire exposure?
[10:19] <[Saint]> (there's lots of fireboxes that have cable management)
[10:19] <lost_soul> interesting, I've never seen one
[10:19] <DanDare> [Saint], and thats your only backup point? Or do you have various safes along various distinct geographic places?
[10:20] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[10:20] <[Saint]> Oh, no, its not my only backup point. But there's where the majority of my data sits. There's another server in a stongbox at my workplace, and I do 24h snapshots to "the cloudz".
[10:21] <[Saint]> Nothing even remotely sensitive lives in the cloud, though.
[10:21] <DanDare> thats cool. My case is much simpler and cheap by nature
[10:21] <DanDare> small amounts of data
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[10:22] <[Saint]> Every month I do hardcopy backups to a stack removable disks.
[10:22] <DanDare> And Im ok having 3 copies: one at office, one at home and one living inside my lap
[10:22] <[Saint]> I can backup everything in under 8TB so far.
[10:22] <[Saint]> Not too much.
[10:22] <lost_soul> living inside your lap?
[10:22] <[Saint]> Most of that is client data though.
[10:23] <DanDare> lost_soul, yeah, the actual data is on laptop, which I make backups from
[10:23] <[Saint]> I've been using my Chromebook too much lately.
[10:23] <lost_soul> ah.. laptop.. I thought maybe you had a hdd surgically implanted in your leg or some shit
[10:23] <[Saint]> Getting too used to everything living in the clouds.
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[10:24] <DanDare> lost_soul, ahahha yeah? No... not the case
[10:24] <DanDare> I personally dont understand this "cloud"
[10:24] <lost_soul> I'm not sure I would trust a system that stores everything in the cloud
[10:24] <DanDare> also im very skeptic about it
[10:24] <DanDare> yeah, same here
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[10:25] <DanDare> "wheres the cloud Joe?" "well, it just rained"
[10:26] <lost_soul> [Saint]: I've googled and still can't find a firesafe that has cutouts for cables to come in.. can you maybe provide a link for me?
[10:26] * [Saint] generally finds that those who don't make extensive use of cloud based services are those who come from locales with crappy Internet/mobile Internet.
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[10:26] <DanDare> everybody make extensive use of the cloud by just using google services e.g.
[10:26] <lost_soul> I can see how it would be possible.. maybe a fireproof safe sitting on top of a concrete slab with the wires running through the slab and the safe mounted to it
[10:27] <lost_soul> my internet isn't all that great, but worse out there I'm sure.. My only concern is with the terms and conditions and privacy of data.
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[10:28] <DanDare> so, avoid google
[10:28] <[Saint]> Avoid...the *entire* Internet.
[10:28] <DanDare> heh
[10:28] <lost_soul> DanDare: I hardly think it is just google that collects data.. Though they may be the biggest concern.
[10:29] <DanDare> lost_soul, true
[10:29] <[Saint]> lost_soul: company that did ours was call ioSafe
[10:30] <lost_soul> [Saint]: ty, looking
[10:30] <DanDare> damn, you work _inside_ a safe
[10:30] <[Saint]> they do everything from single fireproof external enclosures, to big walk in rooms.
[10:30] <DanDare> a pi will never substitute that I guess :p
[10:30] <[Saint]> the one at work is a big two-door rack unit.
[10:31] <[Saint]> mine is substantially smaller. The old one from work. :)
[10:31] <RoBo_V> so guys this is good to go http://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-WiFi-Adapter-300Mbps-Mini-Wireless-WiFi-Router-RT5370-Antenna-802-11b-g-n/1882896482.html
[10:31] <RoBo_V> im going with it
[10:31] * [Saint] sees they have a fancy website
[10:32] <lost_soul> ah.. so it isn't a typical fireproof safe.. it's basically a custom built system enclosure that is fire/water proof.
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[10:34] <DanDare> ok gentlemen, later all
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[10:34] <[Saint]> kinda - with a bloody great big combination lock on it.
[10:34] <[Saint]> the one at work has a dual-key system, kinda OTT.
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[10:35] <[Saint]> rated for 3 hours exposure or something like this. plenty enough time for the sprinklers to safe it, if its possible.
[10:35] <lost_soul> they look pricey as hell
[10:35] <[Saint]> *save
[10:35] <[Saint]> Indeed they are.
[10:36] <[Saint]> I got mine after the boss discovered how heavey it was and how much it was going to cost to get it hauled away.
[10:36] <lost_soul> I think I would just enclose it in concrete
[10:36] <lost_soul> :p
[10:36] <lost_soul> LOL, nice
[10:37] <[Saint]> these are full of sand and asbestos dust I think.
[10:37] <lost_soul> so you got yours for free eh
[10:37] <[Saint]> I paid $200 for it and took it away. Roughly 90% off retail, but it was 2 years old.
[10:38] <[Saint]> Boss would've had to pay about $300 to dump it.
[10:39] <lost_soul> well, you could have likely got it cheaper if you really wanted to.. considering he had to pay so much for disposal
[10:39] <lost_soul> plus he makes an employee happy
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[10:40] <[Saint]> Because of the chemicals in them you can't (legally) just dump them in the municipal waste system.
[10:41] <Boscop> lost_soul: i downloaded the kernel sources but tar always says the time stamps are int he future and exits with error
[10:41] <Boscop> tar: linux-rpi-3.12.y: time stamp 2014-08-06 10:40:15 is 2927961.393283 s in the future
[10:41] <Boscop> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[10:41] <[Saint]> what does "date" say?
[10:42] <[Saint]> Boscop: ^
[10:43] <Boscop> [Saint]: Fri Jul 4 18:14:31 UTC 2014
[10:43] <Boscop> how can i get the time from the internet automatically?
[10:43] <lost_soul> nptd
[10:43] <[Saint]> ntpd
[10:43] <[Saint]> ohhhh, 1ms.
[10:43] <lost_soul> lol
[10:44] <Boscop> i ran it, how long does it take until it will update the time?
[10:44] <lost_soul> did you set the server to use... unsure if your distro has one setup by default?
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[10:45] <Boscop> lost_soul: which server?
[10:45] <Boscop> i just ran it without arguments
[10:45] <lost_soul> if memory serves your on Rasbian, which as I told you last we spoke I have never really used other than five minutes of testing
[10:45] <[Saint]> do 'ntpq -p'
[10:46] <Boscop> ntpq: read: Connection refused
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[10:46] <[Saint]> Well, there's your problem, Jim.
[10:47] <Boscop> hm, i can ping my router but nothing outside
[10:47] <[Saint]> whatever happened, it happened ~4 days ago.\
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[10:50] <lost_soul> Boscop: your Pi has put you on internet restriction, what did you do to piss it off?
[10:51] <Boscop> lost_soul: nothing, it worked before
[10:51] <Boscop> now i set the date manually and try to un-tar the kernel source again, but it says no space left on device
[10:52] <[Saint]> "df -a"
[10:52] <Boscop> or: wrote only X of Y bytes
[10:53] <Boscop> [Saint]: which line is important? this one? /dev/mmcblk0p1 57288 9792 47496 18% /boot
[10:53] <[Saint]> p2
[10:53] <lost_soul> nope
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[10:53] <[Saint]> mmcblk0p2
[10:54] <Boscop> /dev/root 2721336 2704948 0 100% /
[10:54] <[Saint]> (first block device, seconds partition)
[10:54] <Boscop> mmcblk0p2 doesn't appear in that output
[10:54] <lost_soul> yep, out of space
[10:54] <Boscop> maybe my sd card is corrupted?
[10:54] <Boscop> it shouldn't be out of space
[10:54] <lost_soul> do you have any other partitions shown?
[10:54] <Boscop> it's a fresh wheezy image
[10:54] <[Saint]> is this a NOOBs image?
[10:55] <Boscop> no
[10:55] <Boscop> http://pastebin.com/b9Aj3Ap1
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[10:55] <Boscop> it's a 16gb sd card
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[10:56] <[Saint]> you never expanded the rootfs.
[10:56] <[Saint]> that's the only way that makes any sense.
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[10:59] <[Saint]> raspi-config offers a GUI utility that will expand the root image.
[10:59] <[Saint]> but, if you don't want to have to bring the system down, you can do it in fdisk as well.
[11:00] <[Saint]> or, via {g}parted on another system.
[11:00] <[Saint]> hell...there's a number of ways to do it.
[11:00] <[Saint]> But, the important part is right now, you _don't_ have a 16GB card as far as your system is concerned.
[11:01] <[Saint]> It only knows about just over 2.5GB of it is present.
[11:01] <[Saint]> Raspbian should make more of an effort to cram this down the users throat.
[11:02] <[Saint]> Or, perhaps, not even give them a choice about it.
[11:02] <[Saint]> I can't think of many reasons to not want to expand the root filesystem.
[11:02] <[Saint]> ...actually, I can't think of any.
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[11:05] <RoBo_V> guys installing OS to SD card, which file system format is required ?
[11:06] <RoBo_V> IDK but my 2GB card showing 65 frr of 90 MB after ArchLinux installation
[11:06] <Boscop> [Saint]: so what should i do?
[11:06] <RoBo_V> free**
[11:06] <[Saint]> [20:59:32] <[Saint]> raspi-config offers a GUI utility that will expand the root image.
[11:08] <[Saint]> RoBo_V: if its NOOBS, FAT32, if its not NOOBS and doesn't state otherwise, it literally doesn't matter since you'll be overwriting at the filesystem level.
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[11:09] <[Saint]> RoBo_V: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Raspberry_Pi#Resize_filesystem
[11:09] <Boscop> [Saint]: i got "There was an error running option 1 Expand Filesystem"
[11:09] <[Saint]> Boscop: are you root?
[11:09] <Boscop> yes
[11:10] <Boscop> maybe my sd card is damaged from unplugging the pi?
[11:12] <RoBo_V> [Saint] okk
[11:12] <RoBo_V> but wtf my 2 GB card just converted to 90 MB :(
[11:12] <[Saint]> No, it didn't.
[11:12] <Boscop> [Saint]: what should i do?
[11:13] <Boscop> how can i expand when it's corrupted?
[11:13] <[Saint]> Its likely that your host system is just too stupid to understand an EXT partition and only exposes the FAT /boot partition
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[11:13] <[Saint]> Boscop: buggered if I know
[11:14] <RoBo_V> [Saint]; im on windows 8.1
[11:15] <[Saint]> RoBo_V: exactly - your host is too stupid to understand EXT
[11:15] <[Saint]> its only showing the /boot partition
[11:15] <RoBo_V> oh ok
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[11:16] <RoBo_V> I feared If formatted again till 90MB
[11:16] <RoBo_V> I was using win32 disk imager to write OS to SD card
[11:16] <[Saint]> There's no way the system could possibly boot if it was ~90MB. :)
[11:17] <[Saint]> Even if there was absolutely zero free space, the smallest possible Arch install woul dbe ~1.2GB
[11:17] <[Saint]> *would be
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[11:23] <RoBo_V> ok
[11:23] <Boscop> [Saint]: should i format the sd card and reinstall raspbian?
[11:23] <Boscop> or some other image?
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[11:24] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, are you running raspbian right now?
[11:24] <Boscop> yes
[11:25] <gordonDrogon> hang on - booting a Pi to get the right command for you.
[11:26] <[Saint]> I had a look at the raspi-config source, and its hilariously deviod of sanity checks and functional error reporting.
[11:26] <[Saint]> Don't get me wrong "Something went wrong..." is nice and all.
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> [Saint], community effort - do feel free to improve!
[11:26] <[Saint]> On it now. :)
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[11:27] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, Run: sudo badblocks -s -c 256 /dev/mmcblk0
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[11:27] <gordonDrogon> that may take a while, but should do a read-only test of the entire device.
[11:28] <[Saint]> wouldn't it make sense to just do p2?
[11:28] <[Saint]> we know /boot is ok.
[11:28] <gordonDrogon> yea, but /boot is tiny, so will only add a second or 2.
[11:28] <[Saint]> point taken. right.
[11:28] <gordonDrogon> And oh - doing it on one of my Pi's and it's failing - oops.
[11:29] <gordonDrogon> erm. quite badly too!
[11:30] * gordonDrogon pulled the plug on it... rebooting...
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[11:30] <Boscop> what do you guys run instead of raspbian?
[11:30] <[Saint]> *now* you'll /need/ to to a badblock run gordonDrogon. ;)
[11:30] <gordonDrogon> I run Raspbian.
[11:31] <[Saint]> Boscop: alarm
[11:31] <[Saint]> and debian-ua-netinst
[11:31] <[Saint]> (raspbian is a big big girl)
[11:32] <Boscop> this? https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[11:32] <[Saint]> the very same.
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[11:32] <[Saint]> Not really advisable for begginners.
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[11:33] <[Saint]> it'll drop you in a shell with nothing but ntpd and sshd up.
[11:33] <Boscop> will it auto expand the filesystem?
[11:33] <[Saint]> no. nothing will.
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[11:43] <gordonDrogon> Hm. might have to re-flash that SD card.
[11:43] <[Saint]> If repair from another OS isn't an option, yeah.
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[11:43] <[Saint]> (if said alternate host knows what EXT is)
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[11:44] <gordonDrogon> the files are file - there must be some unused blocks that are 'bad'.
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[11:45] <[Saint]> I meant to mount it and point <insert_filesystem_scan/recovery_tool_here> at it.
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[11:46] <gordonDrogon> oh, well - the files are fine - not that there is anything special on them. important data is kept elsewhere.
[11:47] <[Saint]> such tools almost always follow up with a badblocks run though, no?
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[11:47] <[Saint]> the windows one does, iirc.
[11:47] <[Saint]> ...though I /has/ been about a decade since I checked.
[11:47] <[Saint]> *it has
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[11:52] <[Saint]> Hoooooooooooooly heck.
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[11:52] <[Saint]> NovaThor optimization - check!
[11:52] * killer_prince is now known as lazy_prince
[11:55] <[Saint]> 20h 47m 33s battery 89% Discharging
[11:55] <[Saint]> Charging 0%
[11:55] <[Saint]> WiFi 100%
[11:55] <[Saint]> Network Uptime 100%
[11:55] <[Saint]> GPS 100%
[11:55] <[Saint]> Screen Time 2h 3m 51s
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[11:55] <[Saint]> That's so damn incredible I think I must've screwed up...
[11:56] * [Saint] does note that the WiFi and GPS uptime aren't particularly meaningless statistics however
[11:57] <[Saint]> There's no metric of displaying how hard the system was trying to maintain said connection.
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[12:04] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: # badblocks -s -c 256 /dev/mmcblk0
[12:04] <Boscop> Checking for bad blocks (read-only test): done
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[12:17] <Boscop> [Saint]: so with the ua-netinst i just need to copy the files to the sd card?
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[12:19] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, well the SD card is probably OK if that run to completion.
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[12:21] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: so why can't i expand?
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[12:31] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, no idea.
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[12:32] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, what's the actual error message again?
[12:32] <Boscop> There was an error running option 1 Expand Filesystem
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> ok. is it possible the filesystem is already expanded?
[12:32] <Boscop> no
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> what does the output of df -h give - does it look sensible?
[12:32] <Boscop> http://pastebin.com/b9Aj3Ap1
[12:33] <gordonDrogon> ok - so suggesting 2.7G
[12:33] <gordonDrogon> I think.
[12:33] <gordonDrogon> use the -h flag next time - makes it "human readable" :)
[12:34] <gordonDrogon> issues - I've seen; fake SD cards - the cards reporting e.g. 16GB when in reality they have 4...
[12:34] <gordonDrogon> or the partition table may be corrupt in some way? I don't know the exact resize process used in the raspi-setup scripts...
[12:35] <gordonDrogon> it may be that there is really no space left - maybe it creates temporaty files? Have you run apt-get update/upgrade ?
[12:36] <gordonDrogon> run sudo apt-get clean ; df -h
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[12:46] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: http://pastebin.com/VG8xgSx2
[12:46] <gordonDrogon> ok, still no space after apt-get clean - not sure what to suggest now.
[12:46] <gordonDrogon> also have to go to local pi jam, so good luck...
[12:47] <Boscop> apt-get clean returned instantaneously without any output
[12:47] <Boscop> seems like there was nothing to clean
[12:49] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: on windows i formatted it but it says it's only 57MB
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[13:02] <Boscop> how can i see which device name my sd card has?
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[13:03] <Anderson69s> anyone having troubles to stop hyperion via a cec remote on xbian RC1?
[13:03] <benny-> usually mmcb0
[13:03] <Anderson69s> When i press the right button hyperion shutdown and also kill cec
[13:03] <Anderson69s> i have to reactivate hyperion to get cec back….
[13:03] <Anderson69s> any idea?
[13:04] <Boscop> benny-: there is only sda, sda1,sda2 and sda5
[13:04] <Boscop> benny-: under ubuntu
[13:04] <Boscop> i want to format the sd card for raspberry pi
[13:04] <Boscop> windows only saw 56 mb
[13:04] <benny-> oh you have it in pc
[13:04] <Boscop> yea
[13:04] <benny-> try lsscsi
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[13:05] <benny-> if lsscsi isn't available you could check "dmesg | grep sd"
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[13:06] <Boscop> i'm installing lsscsi
[13:07] <Boscop> benny-: dmesg says it's sdb or sdb1, but none such names exist in /dev
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[13:08] <benny-> try unplug and replug card/reader
[13:08] <benny-> and check dmesg | grep sd again
[13:08] <Boscop> not just the card but the reader?
[13:08] <benny-> the reader would be best if it's usb
[13:09] <Boscop> yes
[13:09] <benny-> and the whole card is allways a device without number, so sdb for example, sdb1 is first partition on device sdb
[13:10] <benny-> i think sda is your hard drive, so keep it untouched ;)
[13:10] <Boscop> yes
[13:10] <Boscop> benny-: yes, it's sdb, but it doesn't exist in /dev
[13:11] <benny-> weird
[13:11] <Boscop> yes
[13:11] <pksato> udev fail or really not exists.
[13:11] <benny-> try "mknod /dev/sdb b 8 16"
[13:12] <benny-> and then "fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
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[13:13] <pksato> Boscop: usb card reader? or notebook internal card slot?
[13:13] <Boscop> usb
[13:13] <benny-> mknod may need root rights, so add sudo if it fails
[13:13] <pksato> sd card are inserted ?
[13:13] <Boscop> yes
[13:14] <Boscop> lsscsi lists: [4:0:0:0] disk Generic STORAGE DEVICE 9451 /dev/sdb
[13:14] <pksato> remove, wait and plug again.
[13:14] <benny-> i also think thats some udev problem, if dmesg tells theres sdb / sdb1 the reader and card had been detected
[13:14] <benny-> did you try mknod?
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[13:15] <Boscop> ah, now it exists
[13:15] <Boscop> and now i need to format the whole sd card. windows only formatted it to 56mb
[13:15] <pksato> Boscop: to copy new rpi os image?
[13:15] <Boscop> yes
[13:16] <benny-> if you have an sdcard image you can just copy to sdcard
[13:16] <benny-> dd if=file_to_image of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
[13:16] <benny-> or "dd if=file_to_image of=/dev/sdb BS=1M"
[13:16] <pksato> no need to format. just dumo new image to disk (/dev/sdb)
[13:16] <benny-> not sure if bs has to be uppercase
[13:16] <pksato> bs=1M
[13:16] <Boscop> no, i have files. i want to use the ua-netinst
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[13:17] <Boscop> or what is the best way to install?
[13:17] <benny-> image for beginners
[13:17] <pksato> Boscop: fdisk -l /dev/sdb show more that one partition?
[13:17] <pksato> dump image is best way.
[13:18] <Boscop> Cannot open /dev/sdb
[13:18] <pksato> noobs too. (if have large sd card)
[13:18] <benny-> then that wasn't a udev problem
[13:18] <Boscop> i have 16gb on the sd card
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[13:18] <pksato> Boscop: need to be root.
[13:18] <benny-> not for fdisk -l afaik
[13:18] <pksato> use sudo. or root shell.
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[13:19] <benny-> no it doesn't work cause the cardreader doesnt work correct
[13:19] <benny-> Boscop, you can make "rm /dev/sdb"
[13:19] <benny-> to remove the node you created before
[13:19] <Boscop> it doesn't list anything
[13:19] <benny-> it doesn't work that way
[13:20] <benny-> if fdisk tells that it couldn't open device
[13:20] <Boscop> i didn't create the node, it said mknod: ‘/dev/sdb’: File exists
[13:20] <Boscop> i just didn't see it before
[13:20] <benny-> oh ok
[13:20] <Boscop> or something
[13:20] <Boscop> maybe the card got corrupted when i unplugged the pi?
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[13:21] <pksato> Boscop: test with another card.
[13:21] <Boscop> i only have this one
[13:21] <benny-> try another usb port
[13:22] <dunz0r> This will be exciting...
[13:22] * dunz0r is about to test out his ps2->rs232-adapter
[13:22] <dunz0r> Just gotta dd a fresh image over to the sd-card
[13:23] * dunz0r has for some reason built an rPi into his IBM Model M keyboard
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[13:28] <Boscop> benny-: ah now it works, on another usb port
[13:28] <Boscop> after some time (1min) i heard a sound and then it was recognized
[13:28] <Boscop> fdisk lists two partitions, sdb1 and 2, fat16 and linux
[13:29] <Boscop> https://clbin.com/Lskd1
[13:30] <benny-> looks fine so far
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[13:30] <benny-> sdb1 is for the bootloader
[13:30] <benny-> sdb2 is for the system
[13:30] <benny-> also whole card is used
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[13:30] <benny-> but windows can only show you the first small partition
[13:30] <benny-> cause it doesn't support linux file system
[13:30] <Boscop> why does it appear as full on rpi?
[13:31] <benny-> which is used for the 2nd
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[13:31] <Boscop> yeah
[13:31] <Boscop> but it shouldn't be full
[13:31] <benny-> type "mount"
[13:31] <benny-> is it mounted?
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[13:31] <benny-> or better "mount | grep sdb2"
[13:32] <Boscop> it's not mounted
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[13:32] <benny-> ok, create a directory somewhere
[13:32] <benny-> and then "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 YOURPATH"
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[13:33] <benny-> and then "df -h | grep sdb2"
[13:33] <benny-> df -h /dev/sdb2
[13:33] <benny-> works best
[13:33] <benny-> should show you how much is used
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[13:34] <Boscop> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[13:34] <Boscop> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[13:35] <Boscop> /dev/sdb2 2.6G 2.6G 0 100% /home/me/rpi
[13:35] <benny-> uhm oO
[13:35] <Boscop> ?
[13:35] <benny-> did you resize the partition?
[13:35] <Boscop> no
[13:35] <benny-> but not the filesystem
[13:35] <Boscop> should i?
[13:35] <benny-> but it looks like that
[13:36] <benny-> it looks like the partition got expanded to ~15,x GB
[13:36] <benny-> but filesystem is still 2,6G
[13:36] <Boscop> on rpi it says it's full, i tried to expand the filesystem but got an error
[13:36] <Boscop> maybe it expanded but then aborted?
[13:36] <benny-> did the sdcard work for a time?
[13:37] <Boscop> yes
[13:37] <benny-> or did you had problems since you flashed it?
[13:37] <benny-> ok
[13:37] <Boscop> no, only that it seems full
[13:37] <Boscop> the error i got during expansion was "There was an error running option 1 Expand Filesystem"
[13:37] <benny-> could you paste the output of "du /home/me/rpi/var/log --si --max-depth=1"
[13:38] <benny-> "<benny-> did the sdcard work for a time?" <-- in the pi i mean
[13:39] <Boscop> yes!
[13:39] <Boscop> https://clbin.com/hMIDb
[13:39] <Boscop> but i needed to install kernel sources to compile my wifi driver and it didn't work to untar them because it said no space on device
[13:40] <benny-> ok
[13:40] <Boscop> so i tried expand which didn't work so i decided to reflash
[13:40] <Boscop> all just because of the stupid wifi dongle
[13:40] <benny-> output of "du /home/me/rpi/usr/src/ --si --max-depth=1" plz
[13:40] <Boscop> benny-: in the link
[13:40] <benny-> no its another path
[13:40] <benny-> first one is okay
[13:40] <Boscop> ah
[13:41] <Boscop> https://clbin.com/mV55Y
[13:41] <benny-> next "du /home/me/rpi/var/tmp/ --si --max-depth=1"
[13:42] <benny-> last one is fine
[13:42] <benny-> we are searching for the parts of untard kernel sources btw.
[13:42] <benny-> or do you know where they are?
[13:42] <Boscop> https://clbin.com/0adaF
[13:42] <Boscop> yes
[13:42] <benny-> where?
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[13:43] <Boscop> they are in /home/pi/rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_usb_linux_v2.6.6.0.20120405
[13:43] <benny-> du /home/pi/rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_usb_linux_v2.6.6.0.20120405 --si --max-depth=1
[13:43] <Boscop> ah no, that are the driver sources
[13:43] <benny-> okay then skip that
[13:43] <benny-> drivers usually are small
[13:43] <Boscop> the kernel sources are also in /home/pi somewhere
[13:43] <benny-> but kernel is about ~100M
[13:46] <benny-> "find /home/me/rpi | grep System.map"
[13:46] <benny-> that may take some time, cause it searchs the whole sd card
[13:46] <Boscop> 328M /home/me/rpi/home/pi/linux-rpi-3.12.y
[13:46] <benny-> fine
[13:46] <benny-> remove that
[13:46] <Boscop> and then?
[13:46] <benny-> you should be able to boot again and expand the FS
[13:47] <benny-> to whole ~16gb
[13:47] <Boscop> how to remove it? rm?
[13:47] <benny-> yes
[13:47] <Boscop> so expanding doesn't work when it's full?
[13:47] <benny-> seems so
[13:47] <benny-> not sure, never did expand a fs
[13:47] <Boscop> but i already formatted the windows-readable part in windows
[13:47] <benny-> oh
[13:47] <Boscop> yeah
[13:47] <Boscop> :/
[13:47] <benny-> xD
[13:47] <Boscop> so now i have to reinstall
[13:48] <benny-> if you want to keep files, you could save them now from /home/me/rpi
[13:48] <Boscop> how to get the sd card into a state where i can copy the new files (fat32 formatted, single partition)
[13:48] <benny-> and then i would reflash the image
[13:48] <benny-> and first of all, expand the fs
[13:48] <benny-> you can delete the partitions with fdisk
[13:49] <benny-> fdisk /dev/sdb
[13:49] <benny-> d,2,d,1,w
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[13:51] <Boscop> benny-: enter it all as one command?
[13:52] <benny-> no enter for every ,
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[13:54] <Boscop> benny-: is it correct? http://pastebin.com/pV1PVdKe
[13:55] <benny-> yes it's correct, error is cause we missed unmounting it, but thats no problem
[13:55] <benny-> umount /home/me/rpi
[13:55] <benny-> unplug & replug, and you should see no partition when you run "fdisk /dev/sdb -l"
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[13:56] <Boscop> replug the whole reader or just card?
[13:56] <benny-> whole reader is better afaik
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[13:59] <Boscop> benny-: yes, it seems to be fine on ubuntu but on windows it doesn'T even appear
[13:59] <dunz0r> *sigh*...
[13:59] <dunz0r> all my sd-cards are broken :(
[13:59] <Boscop> Disk /dev/sdb: 15.9 GB, 15931539456 bytes
[13:59] <Boscop> 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 15193 cylinders, total 31116288 sectors
[13:59] <Boscop> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[13:59] <Boscop> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[13:59] <Boscop> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[13:59] <Boscop> Disk identifier: 0x000b5098
[14:00] <benny-> you can flash the image with linux too
[14:00] <Boscop> yes but why doesn't windows recognize it?
[14:01] <benny-> don't know, my crystal ball is broken :p
[14:02] <dunz0r> Boscop: Check if it appears in the diskmgmt.msc-thingie. Windows only shows filesystems it knows about
[14:04] <Boscop> dunz0r: it doesn't appear there
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[14:05] <lost_soul> I've seen windows not display drives/partitions before that linux would
[14:06] <lost_soul> granted it doesn't happen often and at least one of the times it was because the drive was failing
[14:06] <Boscop> Boscop: is it fat32 now?
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[14:07] <benny-> no
[14:07] <benny-> it's nothing atm
[14:07] <benny-> xD
[14:07] <Boscop> maybe that's why
[14:07] <Boscop> how to make it fat32?
[14:07] <benny-> you don't want to
[14:08] <benny-> did you check your image flash tool
[14:08] <benny-> maybe it detects the card
[14:08] <Boscop> i don#t have an image, just files
[14:08] <Boscop> no it doesn't
[14:08] <Boscop> i'm using the raspbian ua netinst
[14:08] <Boscop> it's not an image
[14:08] <benny-> ok if you want fat32
[14:08] <benny-> run fdisk /dev/sdb
[14:08] <benny-> n
[14:08] <benny-> p
[14:08] <benny-> 1
[14:09] <benny-> a few times enter, till you answered all questions
[14:09] <benny-> (so it uses default values)
[14:09] <Boscop> First sector (2048-31116287, default 2048):
[14:09] <Boscop> Using default value 2048
[14:09] <Boscop> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-31116287, default 31116287):
[14:09] <Boscop> Using default value 31116287
[14:10] <benny-> then back in main menue of fdisk => t, 1, b, w
[14:10] <benny-> then windows should detect the card as drive
[14:10] <benny-> and you can format it in windows explorer
[14:11] <Boscop> 1 is fat12
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[14:16] <RoBo_V> guys I have to just copy the iso type file in SD card ?
[14:16] <RoBo_V> downloaded arch Linux for the time
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[14:18] <lost_soul> RoBo_V: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Raspberry_Pi
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[14:19] <dunz0r> RoBo_V: Use dd to transfer it
[14:19] <RoBo_V> dunz0r: im on windows 8.1
[14:19] <dunz0r> Ah... then I have no idea what to do.
[14:19] <dunz0r> :D
[14:19] <RoBo_V> :(
[14:20] * dunz0r doesn't do windows
[14:20] <lost_soul> could always make a linux bootable pendrive... dd from that
[14:20] <RoBo_V> lost_soul: i'm setting RPi for first time use, and SD adaptor hooked to my windows PC
[14:21] <dunz0r> Anyone have any idea as how to "repair" an SD-card? All the cards I have that isn't in use seem to be broken :(
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[14:24] <lost_soul> dunz0r: thread I'm looking at seems to indicate dd might be able to help
[14:25] <lost_soul> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[14:25] <dunz0r> Yeah, I tried that. Didn't work.
[14:25] <lost_soul> see how much space you can fill up (if any) before it fills up
[14:25] <lost_soul> shitty
[14:25] <dunz0r> Although I just think I did it on one of them
[14:25] <dunz0r> Running badblocks on the one that sort of works now, a lot of bad blocks :(
[14:25] <dunz0r> Damn it
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[14:27] <dunz0r> Looks like I have to go down to the local computer shop and buy an SD-card... :(
[14:27] <benny-> Boscop, you need B
[14:27] <benny-> 1 is to select partition 1
[14:28] <benny-> as type B should be fine (W95 FAT32)
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[16:13] <Technicus> Hello, could someone help me figure out how to set up a network share between a Raspberry PI and another *nix machine?
[16:13] <pksato> share files?
[16:14] <FrankBlues> Using NFS?
[16:14] <pksato> or share internet connection?
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[16:17] <Technicus> pksato: share a directoy
[16:17] <Encrypt> Technicus, Have a look at SFTP
[16:18] <Technicus> what is the difference between fish and SFTP?
[16:19] <pksato> You can use a NFS, SAMBA, SSH, FTP, HTTP, etc
[16:20] <Technicus> Yeah . . . thanks :)
[16:20] <Technicus> I am horrible with networking.
[16:21] <pksato> fish is a way do access ssh/sftp from file manager.
[16:21] <benny-> use nfs between linux machines
[16:21] <benny-> if you don't need encryption
[16:22] <pksato> if need autentication, nfs need a nis. or manual user id sync.
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[16:37] <Technicus> Thanks, I found that my favorite file browser Dolphin handles ssh connections.
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[18:08] <HoloPed> how do I bring up the task manager (via hotkey) ?
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[18:25] <goneeuro> Hey guys. Just a quick question. Is the logitech squeezebox software still the best option for building a multi room audio system?
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[18:40] <SpeedEvil> I recommend removing all of the walls, and replacing the ceiling with one very, very large speaker.
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[18:41] <SpeedEvil> http://xkcd.com/886/ - related
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[18:59] <AlecksG_> Hey folks, check out what this guy is doing. He's managing a lot with this little pi https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/176126840/1621496386?token=baf18e39
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[19:01] <Encrypt> I know him!
[19:01] <Encrypt> He came here a few months ago
[19:01] <Encrypt> Showing his oculus-like project
[19:01] <AlecksG_> I just ran into him in #pygame
[19:02] <Encrypt> He might even be here (but I'd have to remember his nickname)
[19:02] <[ill]will> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7HDOxr7Jl0
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[19:02] <Encrypt> It works pretty well
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[19:42] <MY123> neutrino: The Mali-400 GPU architecture is not GPGPU-capable and Lima can't do something and is a classic Mesa driver.
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[20:22] <Hypfer> hello everyone. Is there a simple solution somewhere to open a normal door wth the raspberry pi without having to install something into the wall?
[20:24] <abnormal> they have electric powered door openers like stores have for the handicapped...
[20:24] <shiftplusone> are explosives out of the question?
[20:25] <Hypfer> shiftplusone: I want the door to stay usable
[20:25] <Hypfer> abnormal: link?
[20:25] <shiftplusone> damn
[20:29] <abnormal> you can hook the pi up to it via a piface or a arduino uno...
[20:29] <abnormal> I don't have a link, just what I think up from my head...
[20:30] <abnormal> It's really easy and not a lot of wiring, just have to get a motion sensor and program it in python...
[20:32] <abnormal> be sure to use good quality relays and are rated to handle the amperage and voltage with out burning up relays...
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[20:33] <Hypfer> can't find the door openers you've mentioned :(
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[20:34] <abnormal> no, hard to find. keep looking.. key it in google and maybe Lowes, Home Depot???
[20:35] <abnormal> maybe in Ebay?
[20:35] <Hypfer> but will those also take care of locks?
[20:36] <Hypfer> my use case is retard me leaving the keys in my flat
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[20:36] <abnormal> you can buy locks separately, and programming the pi to unlock b4 open and lock after close...
[20:37] <abnormal> using a proximity sensor..
[20:37] <Hypfer> uh
[20:37] <Hypfer> what kind of locks can the pi open?
[20:37] <Hypfer> special wifi locks?
[20:38] <abnormal> are you using a phone to get urself in/out? anylock will work depending on how you set up the whole thing..
[20:39] <Hypfer> yeah I guess I'll use my phone
[20:39] <Hypfer> but none of that proximity stuff
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[20:49] <abnormal> The proximity sensor tells the pi whether the door is fully closed or open...
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[20:49] <abnormal> Are you familar to LabVeiw?
[20:51] <Hypfer> no idea
[20:52] <Hypfer> whatever that is^^
[20:53] <abnormal> it's a application run in windows I use at work that anyone can create to do any task electronically...
[20:54] <Hypfer> it's not the software
[20:54] <Hypfer> thats not a problem
[20:54] <Hypfer> I just need a door handle with a motor
[20:56] <abnormal> make one... get a stepper motor and rig it to door knob, so many steps to make it fully unlatch then when door closed, undo that...
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[21:06] <Tenebrous> the frankenspectrum is coming together! \o/ https://s3.amazonaws.com/pushbullet-uploads/udqn9-qR5Q47MMgU2eUa286XtWetItxyEzSG5F/IMG_20140809_193406.jpg
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[22:34] <UnaClocker> Yay, got my Raspberry router online now. :) Running OpenWRT.. :)
[22:35] <RoBo_V> Guys anyone can suggest I have installed arch Linux with lxde but keyboard mouse not working
[22:35] <RoBo_V> Tried both wired and wireless
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[22:36] <RoBo_V> It works on start console but not in graphic interface
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[22:52] <lost_soul> RoBo_V: anything in the logs?
[22:52] <RoBo_V> Haven't checked and donyt
[22:52] <RoBo_V> Know how to check
[22:53] <RoBo_V> Im just trying to setup RPI for 1st time
[22:53] <RoBo_V> Not much Linux background
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> RoBo_V, why Arch? Raspbian is more popular...
[22:54] <RoBo_V> Yes but for now I had 2gb card onlyy
[22:54] <RoBo_V> Raspbian will not fit in there
[22:55] <RoBo_V> I needed to try something
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[22:55] <Jusii> RoBo_V: yes it does fit https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[22:56] <RoBo_V> Jusii it has GUI ?
[22:56] <Jusii> if you apt-get one
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[22:57] <RoBo_V> Actually I downloaded from raspberry pi website that raspbian
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[22:58] <Jusii> I'm sure, from the above link you get raspbian without the bloat
[22:58] <Jusii> you'll start under 512MB storage needed
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[22:59] <therion23> Tenebrous, that picture brings nostalgic tears to my eyes :)
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[23:03] <RoBo_V> Jusii OK I will try it
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[23:18] <HoloPed> how do I disable screen blanking ?
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[23:25] <Hypfer> HoloPed: in X?
[23:25] <Hypfer> HoloPed: xset -dpms; xset s off
[23:25] <Hypfer> magic.
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[23:26] <lost_soul> actually to disable screenblank it is xset s -noblank
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[23:26] <lost_soul> er.. noblank.. without the - actualy
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[23:27] <Hypfer> lost_soul: the archlinux wiki is nevery lying.
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[23:28] <lost_soul> Hypfer: off may work too but if memory serves I tried that and noblank was the method that made it so screensaver wouldn't kick in
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