#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-08-10

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[0:36] <promet> Hi, I've read some stuff about editing /boot/cmdline.txt and /etc/inittab to free up the Pi's UART pins. I need them as GPIO pins. Are there other steps I need to take?
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[0:46] <promet> Helloooooo....
[0:46] <promet> <echo>
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[0:48] <abnormal> promet, have to wait til the right person shows up.. I don't know enuf about what you are trying to do.. so be patient...
[0:50] <promet> abnormal, just checkin'
[0:51] <abnormal> ok, man, letting you know that someone will show up... I have 4 pi's and a BBB
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[1:06] <dogmatic69> hi all, I got a problem with my new b+
[1:07] <dogmatic69> every time I apt-get update it crashes
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[1:07] <dogmatic69> loads of lines like 'unable to remove newly-extracted version of `/opt/Wolfram/WolframEngine/10.0/.Revision': Read-only file system'
[1:08] <dogmatic69> then I get '-bash: ls: command not found' for any command, only get it working again with restart
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[1:28] <kevr> i soldered an lcd plate together really crappily, and when i connect all the pin headers to the plate, i run i2cdetect -y 1 on my model b rpi, but instead of showing a 0x20 address, I get a UU in another column
[1:28] <kevr> Is that bad?
[1:30] <abnormal> looks it... I don't know abt that set up but it don't sound right...
[1:30] <kevr> it's a product sold by adafruit.
[1:30] <kevr> ._.
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[1:32] <kevr> hmm, looks like the 'UU' means busy
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[1:37] <dogmatic69> seems like its the expansion board I have, maybe requires external power
[1:39] <kevr> dogmatic69: i don't think it's supposed to.. it's supposed to attach directly onto the pin header
[1:39] <kevr> er, well, with an extra header added on
[1:39] <abnormal> good point, I haven't seen it...
[1:39] <kevr> hm
[1:39] <abnormal> is it the PiFace one?
[1:40] <kevr> nah
[1:40] <kevr> some cheaper one
[1:40] <abnormal> ahh.. man... get the real one already tested for Pi...
[1:40] <kevr> idk, i might have just fucked the solder up.
[1:41] <kevr> abnormal: it's cool, this was just kind of a practice solder project for me :P
[1:41] <kevr> first timer, so i probably fucked it up.
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[1:42] <abnormal> ok.. you can fix it tho... undo everything them redo it very carefully...
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[1:43] <kevr> when i get some desolder :P
[1:44] <abnormal> oh? can't just pull one at a time?
[1:45] <kevr> im not sure, lol.
[1:45] <kevr> i'm not an experience solder guy at all.
[1:45] <kevr> this was my first time.
[1:46] <abnormal> is ur soldering iron a thin heat controlled one?
[1:48] <kevr> yeah
[1:48] * darkavenger is now known as sacha16_afk
[1:49] <kevr> i have a few heads for it.
[1:51] <abnormal> ok, if you work like a surgeon, u cud pull one at a time a little bit at a time u eventually get it all off...
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[2:04] <kevr> abnormal: ill try, but i have to do like 48 tiny ass pins
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[2:05] <kevr> gonna be tough
[2:05] <kevr> xD
[2:05] <kevr> o well itll be fun
[2:05] <kevr> thanks
[2:05] <abnormal> one suggestion tho, use a stranded wire, mash it spread flat and that will work like a desolderer....
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[2:12] <pksato> http://www.thebox.myzen.co.uk/Raspberry/Magic_Wand.html
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[2:12] <kevr> abnormal: yeah, problem is that everything are on tiny ass pins
[2:13] <abnormal> I know.. pain heh?
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[2:27] <abnormal> thats a hefty neat project, pksato
[2:28] <pksato> just a randon link.
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[2:30] <abnormal> still a pretty neat project tho... I bet the program is pretty simple too..
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[2:33] <kevr> abnormal: ah, well thanks a bunch for your time
[2:33] <kevr> and patience\
[2:34] <abnormal> your welcome, man, just be careful tho...
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[2:50] <[Saint]> abnormal: Hypfer: since I saw you guys talking about remote locking/unlocking, but didn't see this specifically mentioned, make sure that the latches you use do NOT return to a default position when powered down. :)
[2:51] * [Saint] has seen far too many people who should know better make this obvious and terrible mistake.
[2:51] <[Saint]> (ie. power goes off - door unlocks)
[2:51] <[Saint]> Classic remote entry fail.
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[2:55] <abnormal> well if he made it battery powered then it won't be a prob, using a stepper wud allow him to open it by hand...
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[2:57] <[Saint]> I wouldn't say that.
[2:57] <[Saint]> Though, I'm unaware of the locale.
[2:58] <[Saint]> All it takes a a semi-decent earthquake to dislodge said batteries.
[2:58] <[Saint]> Generally speaking, keyless entry systems have fail written all over them.
[2:59] <abnormal> well gee whiz.. have a full time waiter inside the door...
[2:59] <SpeedEvil> [Saint]: my chainsaw works quite well
[3:00] <abnormal> lol
[3:00] <[Saint]> Heh. Not on my doors it wouldn't. Unless it can cut through mild steel plate. :)
[3:00] <abnormal> or a door buster the cops use
[3:01] <[Saint]> My doors are overkill. No one's getting through them uninvited (we think this address was a gang pad prior).
[3:01] <[Saint]> My /windows/ however...
[3:02] <[Saint]> But they're small and awkward and wouldn't let one get the bulk of the expensive gear in the house out.
[3:04] <abnormal> just go thru wall silly
[3:05] <[Saint]> Uuuuughhhhh.
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[3:05] * [Saint] does not enjoy the dull sickening thud of mouse corpse being batted around the floor.
[3:05] <[Saint]> (yay, kittens! :-/)
[3:08] <abnormal> meow
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[3:09] <abnormal> cof cof cof, hack hack, what are these? GMO fed mice???
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[3:46] <abnormal> well, a lot of ins/outs.... hmmmm
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[4:31] <[Saint]> How did I not know about https://www.youtube.com/tv#/ ?
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[4:31] <[Saint]> the remote pairing is awesome.
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[4:33] <abnormal> oh?
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[4:33] <[Saint]> its an alternate YT interface, I believe the one and the same the roku boxes use.
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[4:34] <[Saint]> click on the search box bottom right and it'll prompt you to pair any other device as a remote.
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[4:35] <abnormal> cool...nice feature
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[7:24] <windsurf_> Is it possible to run a full screen graphical app from command line without desktop running?
[7:25] <windsurf_> Ie if I build a WebKit wrapper in c++
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[7:36] <DanDare> windsurf_, yes
[7:37] <windsurf_> Thanks
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[10:16] <AB612> hi, I just installed raspbian on sd card and booted with ethernet cable connected to my router (set to automatic dhcp), but i can't see raspberry pi on list of LAN devices
[10:17] <AB612> is there something that needs to be done in raspbian to use the ethernet interface?
[10:19] <[Saint]> no.
[10:19] <AB612> so internet should work automatically once i plug in the ethernet cable?
[10:20] <[Saint]> yes.
[10:20] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[10:20] <AB612> okay
[10:20] <AB612> i'll recheck router settings and whatnot. thanks
[10:21] <AB612> sucks i don't have a monitor
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[10:21] <[Saint]> I think a monitor is largely superfluous for the raspberrypi.
[10:22] <[Saint]> Frankly, its pretty terrible at running a DE>
[10:22] <[Saint]> The pi is much more at home in a headless situation where it doesn't need to dedicate half its resources to appeasing a user with fancy images.
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[10:23] <AB612> that's what i bought it for. but monitor would be useful for initial setup
[10:23] <AB612> i did the initial installation at work using office monitor but couldn't connect to internet there
[10:23] <AB612> so took it back home, plugged in ethernet while leaving everything else the same, but not getting internet :(
[10:24] <[Saint]> If you're intending on running it headless, raspbian seems a bit of an odd choice.
[10:24] <AB612> oh is that so
[10:24] <AB612> I just went with the "recommended" thing
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[10:24] <[Saint]> A huge chunk of the default packages imply a desktop environment.
[10:24] <[Saint]> running headless, about 1.5GB of the image is largely irrelevant.
[10:25] <AB612> ok
[10:25] <[Saint]> (some may argue that a lot of the image is irrelevant even if you do have a monitor... ;))
[10:26] <[Saint]> Its an education distro. Its *great* for its purpose, as an educational distro, but as an everyday distro its far too fat for my liking.
[10:26] <[Saint]> Some may, and do, disagree.
[10:26] <AB612> internet still not working
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[10:27] <AB612> the machine should boot once i power it on without having to press enter or anything, right?
[10:27] <AB612> not only monitor, but i don't even have keyboard to use
[10:28] <[Saint]> yes.
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[10:29] <AB612> hmm odd
[10:30] <[Saint]> unfortunately there's a whole host of ways to bugger up a home network.
[10:30] <AB612> oh derp
[10:30] <AB612> i just used differnet LAN port on router and it worked
[10:30] <[Saint]> heh.
[10:30] <AB612> something must have been borked
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[10:32] <[Saint]> just remember to change those passwords if there's a path from the outside world.
[10:32] <AB612> now raspberry pi appears on router's LAN device list, but i can't ssh or ping to that ip
[10:32] <AB612> no response
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[10:32] <AB612> i changed default password during setup
[10:33] <[Saint]> It sounds like your router isn't terribly healthy.
[10:34] <AB612> argh
[10:34] <[Saint]> ?
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[10:40] <[Saint]> I guess that was "argh...my network fell over"
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[10:44] <therion23> you might want https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst instead of the full graphical raspbian
[10:45] <[Saint]> not really beginner friendly to drop a user in a shell with nothing but a base install, sshd, and ntpd.
[10:45] <[Saint]> but, I agree.
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[10:46] <[Saint]> Also, Arch. The dark side beckons...join us.
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[10:46] <[Saint]> (we're not like those Gentoo weirdos, we promise)
[10:46] <[Saint]> {disclaimer: no promises}
[10:47] <therion23> well, if you have ever used the minimal Debian installer before, raspbian ua shouldn't be a problem
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[10:48] <therion23> i run arch on mine and i loathe it
[10:48] <[Saint]> why so?
[10:48] <therion23> systemd has a lot of parameters hardcoded into it
[10:48] <therion23> so, for one, i cannot run ipv6 via dhcp on arch for the pi
[10:50] <therion23> also, for some reason i cannot figure out either, it insists on running two instances of dhcpcd on the same interface
[10:50] <therion23> (and yes i have enabled ipv6 in cmdline.txt)
[10:51] <[Saint]> My ISP decided that IPv6 isn't a thing, so, I haven't hit that wall.
[10:52] <therion23> my router (which is Debian) runs a tunnel to SIXXS
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[10:53] <[Saint]> My ISP basically did the math and figured that with current growth trends they still don't have to care about ipv6 for years.
[10:53] <therion23> works fine with manual config, works fine with dhcpcd in raspbian, but arch insists on passing -4 to dhcpcd (meaning do ipv4 only) and as far as i can see it is hardcoded
[10:53] <[Saint]> even with selling off massive blocks of assignments.
[10:53] <[Saint]> so - yay me. :-/
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[10:58] <therion23> gotta love the easter egg in pacman though haha
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[10:59] <silenius> hi, i have problem coming into the noobs menu..
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[11:00] <silenius> i press shift and nothing happens.. is it possible noobs does not like my g109 keyboard?
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[11:06] <ShorTie> is that a wireless keyboard ??
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[12:08] <dunz0r> Anyone tried those 10" displays on Ebay with controller boards for ~130$? I'm thinking it might be perfect for my portable build.
[12:12] <ShorTie> that is kinda a vague question, i think most peeps would need more info to come to a conclusion
[12:13] <benny-> depends on display/controller :>
[12:13] <dunz0r> 10", HDMI/VGA/RCA input, fullhd, loose controller board + inverter board... not sure what else to say 'bout them
[12:13] <ShorTie> you need know the chipset of the display
[12:13] <dunz0r> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-VGA-2AV-Audio-Remote-Controller-Board-10-1inch-1920-1200-B101UAN02-IPS-LCD-/161141075198?pt=US_Car_Monitors_w_o_Player&hash=item2584c1acfe
[12:14] <dunz0r> ShorTie: Why would I need to know that? As long as it accepts HDMI in it should work, right?
[12:14] <ShorTie> the pi does output hdmi and composite (rca i think is a form of it)
[12:15] <gordonDrogon> not a bad little bundle for a 10" display - 1080p too.
[12:15] <ShorTie> very true, but you did not say that in the beginning
[12:16] <gordonDrogon> as long as you're good with building it into a frame/box, etc.
[12:16] <ShorTie> so it does sound like it will work
[12:18] <dunz0r> gordonDrogon: That's the plan. I'm building a portable thingie.
[12:18] <gordonDrogon> luggable more like :)
[12:19] * dunz0r has built an rPi into his IBM Model M keyboard
[12:19] <dunz0r> Haven't finished with the ps/2->rs232-conversion yet though. But the hardware's done. Just the software left now :)
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[12:19] <gordonDrogon> I saw a Pi yesterday inside a C64 case. There was an adapter board for the C64 keyboard -> USB -> Pi
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[12:20] <dunz0r> I tried with one of those passive adapters, but the Model M didn't like that at all, so I've built an adapter to connect it to the rx of the pi
[12:20] <dunz0r> Since PS/2 is just binary data :)
[12:21] <dunz0r> And I even found a kernel module for it :D
[12:22] <dunz0r> The price of that monitor though... it seems a bit too good to be true :)
[12:22] <dunz0r> It's without a case though I guess
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[12:26] <gordonDrogon> no case.
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> no mounting for the switches...
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> couple of 100 volts flying about for the EL backlight :)
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[12:54] <SpeedEvil> <voice="iain paisley">Those that mount switches will burn forever'
[12:55] <CodePulsar> huh
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[12:57] <Boscop> benny-: i formatted the sd card with code c (fat32 lba) and it shows up on ubuntu but not on windows
[13:01] <Boscop> even thought i formatted it as fat32, when i try to mount it, it says: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[13:01] <ShorTie> how big is the sdcard ??
[13:02] <Boscop> 16gb
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[13:02] <benny-> did you check partition table? so it got written correct?
[13:02] <benny-> and you formated sdb1, not sdb?
[13:02] <ShorTie> well, is that not way to big for fat32 ??
[13:02] <Boscop> benny-: check partition table how?
[13:02] <benny-> fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[13:03] <Boscop> sdb1 Primary W95 FAT32 (LBA) 15930.50
[13:03] <benny-> formated with? mkfs.vfat?
[13:03] <Boscop> with fdisk, code c
[13:03] <benny-> thats not formating
[13:04] <benny-> make "mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1"
[13:04] <benny-> that will format the card
[13:04] <benny-> card/partition
[13:05] <Boscop> so the fdisk command just chose what filesystem mkfs.vat will format as?
[13:06] <Boscop> how to check the partition table?
[13:06] <benny-> i'm not familiar with the details
[13:06] <benny-> you did with fdisk -l ....
[13:06] <benny-> output looked fine so far
[13:06] <Boscop> so i always have to run shutdown before unplugging the pi?
[13:07] <benny-> if you are not sure, that you can't just unplug, yes
[13:07] <benny-> and you are not sure ^^
[13:08] <benny-> so allways use shutdown ;)
[13:08] <Boscop> benny-: ok, so now it shows up correctly on ubuntu and is auto mounted. but still doesn't show up in windows, even diskmgmt
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[13:11] <benny-> try another machine if you can
[13:11] <benny-> or copy your files with ubuntu...
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[13:18] <Boscop> on another machine with windows it doesn't work either
[13:18] <Boscop> why?
[13:19] <benny-> i have no idea
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[13:21] <Boscop> benny-: ah now it shows as 14gb disk. wtf
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[13:28] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, we try to keep it family friendly here....
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[13:30] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: ok
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> and note that disk sizes are somewhat interesting - manufacturers like to sell capacity using decimal numbers, but computers like binary numbers. So 16GB to a disk vendor is 16,000,000,000 bytes. To most computers still using binary numbers, 16GB is actually 16 * 2^9 = 17179869184 bytes
[13:30] <Boscop> benny-: on ubuntu i get this info with fdisk -l: https://clbin.com/va4a2 but on windows i get this: http://www.mirari.fr/hUyO.png
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[13:31] <gordonDrogon> then there's the mix of SI units and binary and termins like MiB, GiB (Gibbering gibbi bytes, batman)
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[13:32] <Boscop> yeah but even with that i can't find a calculation that unifies both
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[13:32] <Boscop> windows says 15541920 kb, ubuntu says 15931539456 bytes
[13:32] <therion23> we used to call a million bytes a MegaSeagate instead of a megabyte because Seagate were the first to use millions instead of megas
[13:33] <gordonDrogon> 14 GB (computer/binary terms) is 15032385536 bytes.
[13:33] <Boscop> 15541920*1024=15914926080, doesn'T match up with what ubuntu says, but also 15541920*1000 doesn't
[13:33] <gordonDrogon> and, I'm not sure about FAT (why are you formatting a 16G drive with FAT?) but there is reserved overhead when you format a drive.
[13:34] <mgottschlag> http://xkcd.com/394/
[13:34] <Boscop> and why is one allocation unit not available?
[13:34] <gordonDrogon> everything will be rounded to 4096 byte blocks too.
[13:34] <benny-> cause it lefts 2kb free on the beginning
[13:34] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: i'm formatting as fat32 for the rpi
[13:34] <benny-> to get a good alignment
[13:34] <gordonDrogon> mgottschlag, what's that? a standard you say? http://xkcd.com/927/ :-)
[13:35] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, to install noobs?
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[13:35] <benny-> as you can see from fdisk output the partition starts @2048, not 0
[13:35] <Boscop> no, the ua netinst
[13:35] <therion23> haha i remember those faulty Pentiums
[13:35] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, why not just dd the raspbian image to it.
[13:36] <Boscop> it's not an image, just files
[13:36] <benny-> if you had installed raspbian with dd, you would have finished now
[13:36] <gordonDrogon> ^ my thoughts too.
[13:36] <benny-> instead of bothering around with windows, partitions, etc.
[13:36] <Boscop> downloading raspbian takes so long
[13:36] <gordonDrogon> sure - but you only do it once.
[13:36] <Boscop> and i want my card to be readable on windows anyway
[13:37] <Boscop> for when i want to put files on my pi
[13:37] <benny-> thats not the way it works
[13:37] <gordonDrogon> there is a small fat partition you can use to copy stuff between if you can't use the network.
[13:37] <benny-> or use usb flash drive for filetransfer
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[13:42] <gordonDrogon> currently have a dead SD card that I've just resurrected... but do I trust it?
[13:42] * gordonDrogon ponders
[13:42] <gordonDrogon> it had bad blocks - failed badblocks check, wouldn't mount/read files.
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> I have written zeros to it and now it's passes badblocks checks, etc.
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> but do I trust it..
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[13:44] <benny-> create a image with dd from /dev/random, write it sd card and compare checksums
[13:45] <benny-> if it failed before, it might also be bad connection
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> it was failing on 2 different devices - Pi & my laptop.
[13:45] <benny-> possible^^
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> that (to me) rules out connection issues.
[13:45] <benny-> I/O failure?
[13:45] <benny-> or damaged filesystem?
[13:46] <gordonDrogon> benny-, it was bad blocks - the FS is/was toast at that point.
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> so yes, IO errors.
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> giving the fill with random test a run now..
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> my laptops half the speed of my Pi at read/writing SD's!
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> oh this is going to take some time - write speed currently 3MB/sec )-:
[13:49] <dunz0r> Wohoo, the ps2-converter works!
[13:49] <dunz0r> Now I just need to recompile some modules and install the custom-module
[13:50] <benny-> you should write the image first on harddisk
[13:50] <benny-> maybe /dev/random is slow?!
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> I'm using urandom ...
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[13:51] <benny-> so "dd if=/dev/random of=./mytestfile bs=16M count=1024" for 16gb testfile
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> but yes, it's still slow.
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[13:51] <gordonDrogon> I'm writing to the whole (raw) device.
[13:52] <benny-> yea, but how would you check the checksum?
[13:52] <benny-> you could create one from sd after the write, but you don't know if its correct
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> md5sum /dev/mmb...
[13:52] <benny-> without some checksum to compare
[13:52] <benny-> and what checksum do you expect? xD
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> the same when I run it a 2nd time.
[13:53] <benny-> then you still don't know if you got what you have written
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> true.
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> but at least it would be consistent(ly wrong)
[13:53] <benny-> xD
[13:54] <benny-> yes, but its waste of time ;)
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> I'd have to seed a PRNG and write the file somewhere else to compare.
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[13:54] <gordonDrogon> or pipe the write through tee piped into md5sum or something like that.
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[13:54] <gordonDrogon> not really fussed - I have plenty of SD cards.
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> this is the first one that's thrown an IO error since the early days.
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> it is some 2 years old now though and been in semi-regular use.
[13:55] <benny-> yea IO errors are a bad sign at all
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[13:55] <gordonDrogon> my Pi's do get the power pulled on them - very regularly.
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> so its possibly just a botched write due to power loss than a real hard failure.
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[13:58] <gordonDrogon> Hm. it'll be interesting to see what happens to the compute module in the long-run.
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> although I plan to have the one I have do a proper shutdown when it needs to.
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[14:17] <Boscop> which led on the pi is for file system activity?
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> the green one.
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> marked OK or ACT.
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[14:21] <Boscop> i'm following this guide to stop sd card corruption. there has to be whitespace between the 00's in fstab, right?
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> which guide?
[14:22] <Boscop> http://www.ideaheap.com/2013/07/stopping-sd-card-corruption-on-a-raspberry-pi/
[14:22] <gordonDrogon> Hm. that's guys obviously doing something wrong.
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> it's probably not a good idea to put the /var/run line in /etc/fstab. edit the option in /etc/default/tmpfs
[14:24] <Boscop> after following that, my fstab looks like this: https://clbin.com/T8ieG
[14:24] <Boscop> is this correct?
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> if it works for you, it's correct for you.
[14:25] <Boscop> i just added the last two lines and noatime to /boot
[14:25] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: how do i know if it works for me?
[14:25] <Boscop> i'm new to this
[14:25] <gordonDrogon>
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> if you reboot it and it works, then it's working for you.
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[14:26] <gordonDrogon> /boot doesn't have a concept of noatime.
[14:26] <Boscop> why not add the /var/run line?
[14:26] <gordonDrogon> because you can do the same in /etc/default/tmpfs
[14:26] <Boscop> how?
[14:27] <gordonDrogon> actually, /var/run is already a tmpfs, so he's a bit behind the times.
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[14:28] <gordonDrogon> he wrote that over a year ago too.
[14:28] <Boscop> do i need the /proc line too?
[14:28] <gordonDrogon> the /proc line should have already been there.
[14:28] <Boscop> it's not
[14:28] <gordonDrogon> although it's not technically needed anymore.
[14:29] <gordonDrogon> it gets auto-mounted by the boot-time scripts.
[14:29] <Boscop> ok. and in /etc/default/keyboard, what does BACKSPACE="guess" do?
[14:29] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea because in 18 years of using Debian I've never looked at that file.
[14:30] <gordonDrogon> it says: # Consult the keyboard(5) manual page.
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[14:30] <gordonDrogon> that means you type: man 5 keyboard
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[14:32] <Boscop> it says no manual entry
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[14:32] <gordonDrogon> you don't have the manual pages installed.
[14:32] <Boscop> and online i can't find it either
[14:32] <gordonDrogon> leave it as it is then.
[14:33] <gordonDrogon> right. that's a Pi's corrupt SD card tested/wiped and re-flashed with the latest Raspbian, up and running.
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[14:34] <Boscop> i installed copies-and-fills as recommended by raspbian-ua-netinst. do i still have to do what this site says: https://github.com/simonjhall/copies-and-fills : "To use: define the environment variable, LD_PRELOAD=/full/path/to/libcofi_rpi.so, then run program"
[14:35] <gordonDrogon> sounds like hard work to me.
[14:35] <gordonDrogon> I just installed raspbian and let it take care of all that.
[14:36] <gordonDrogon> technically, you're probably doing the right thing by just installing what you need, but really - if this is your first Pi experience, you will be much better off just downloading raspbian and flashing that to the S Dcard instead.
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[14:36] <gordonDrogon> otherwise you'll be forever asking questions like that - to which most of us who just downloaded and installed Raspbian will not be able to give you much help. You're in the bottom 0.01% of users here.
[14:37] <gordonDrogon> and I've been using Debian for over 18 years now and I really can't be bothered with that.
[14:38] <gordonDrogon> and you're looking at old stuff on the 'net too - that blog page where the chap is fed-up with SD card corruption - well - I've just had my first issue in about 2 years...
[14:38] <Boscop> but that post is only 1 year old
[14:38] <Boscop> noatime seems to make sense
[14:38] <gordonDrogon> yea, and a LOT has changed in that time. the kernel has improved, the usb and sd drivers have been re-written.
[14:38] <gordonDrogon> noatime is *standard* now on Raspbian.
[14:39] <Boscop> ah ok
[14:39] <Boscop> ok,i'll install raspbian from the image then
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> it is true that you're going to get some 1.5GB of software that you may not use with Raspbian though.
[14:41] <gordonDrogon> that's where the netinst may win, but I have to say - if it's asking you stuff about LD_PRELOAD, then it's got a long way to go. That stuff should be standard on a Pi now, not optional.
[14:42] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: it's not asking me this, the github page of the copies-and-frills memset replacement says this
[14:42] <Boscop> but i installed it via apt-get, so maybe that takes care of the preloading too?
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> it might..
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[14:46] <Boscop> i tried to set the keyboard like this: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/a/10271
[14:47] <Boscop> but it didn't have any effect after reboot
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> sudo raspi-config
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> asked 10 months ago )-:
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[14:51] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: doesn't work, i tried that first
[14:51] <Boscop> probably because user pi doesn't exist
[14:52] <SpeedEvil> Is http://raspberrycolocation.com/ actually doing what it says on the tin?
[14:52] <SpeedEvil> There are inconsistent things on different bits of the site
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, I think they've been doing it for some time - initially it was free IICR.
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> *IIRC.
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, sorry - I'm struggling here. I've not tried netinst - just ordinary raspbian, maybe better to find someone who is more versed in its use.
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[14:57] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, I am toying with the idea of co-locating one of my Pi's. just for fun - as I already have a couple of dozen servers in a data centre - I can sneak the Pi in the next time I go up :)
[14:57] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: yeah - it's just they say '14 wating' and in other places '90 day wait'
[14:57] <SpeedEvil> And they announced 2000 last year, with their site being stalled since shortly after
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[15:00] <gordonDrogon> quite popular by the sounds of it.
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[15:12] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: how can i tell apt-get not to install manpages?
[15:12] <gordonDrogon> no idea. I've always wanted them.
[15:12] <Boscop> i always google
[15:13] <gordonDrogon> I always type man ...
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[15:13] <Boscop> I'm trying to build my wifi driver, but it's failing
[15:13] <Boscop> make ARCH=armv6l CROSS_COMPILE= -C /lib/modules/3.12-1-rpi/build M=/root/rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_usb_linux_v2.6.6.0.20120405/driver/rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_usb_linux_v2.6.6.0.20120405 modules
[15:13] <Boscop> make[1]: Entering directory `/root/linux-rpi-3.12.y'
[15:13] <Boscop> Makefile:579: /root/linux-rpi-3.12.y/arch/armv6l/Makefile: No such file or directory
[15:13] <Boscop> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/root/linux-rpi-3.12.y/arch/armv6l/Makefile'. Stop.
[15:14] <Boscop> in /root/linux-rpi-3.12.y/arch/ there are only arc/ arm/ arm64/
[15:14] <Boscop> what should i do?
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> I have no idea. As an academic excercise, I compiled a kernel for the Pi ... 2 years ago. I've not looked since.
[15:17] <gordonDrogon> have you checked to see if that module is not already included?
[15:17] <gordonDrogon> the 8712 module is included in Raspbian.
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> I've use rtl wi-fi dongles on Pis - they generlaly seem to just work.
[15:18] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: this one didn't
[15:19] <Boscop> the r8712u module is loaded and i can scan for networks, but not connect
[15:19] <Boscop> so i emailed the vendor of my wifi stick and they said i should download this driver: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[15:19] <Boscop> Realtek_8191SU_Linux
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[15:22] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: and lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8172 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[15:22] <Boscop> so it's RTL8191SU
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> I really enjoy setting up a Pi with Raspbian. it's so easy. almsot fun.
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[15:25] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: i did it with raspbian image before, didn't wor keither
[15:26] <Boscop> apt-get install firmware-realtek -> E: Unable to locate package firmware-realtek
[15:26] <Boscop> why can'T it find it?
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[16:26] <dunz0r> Compiling kernel modules on a pi takes time.... just at the filesystems... this'll take a while.... :(
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[16:30] <mattblack123> hi guys, do you know any programs or pages to draw something like http://www.adafruit.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/rpi_demo_bb2.png?
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[16:31] <benny-> lochmaster maybe, but don't know if that available in english
[16:31] <benny-> or DIA for linux
[16:31] <benny-> or if you use chrome/chromium browser https://www.draw.io/
[16:32] <benny-> may work in other browsers, too
[16:32] <benny-> but you can install it as app in chrome/chromium
[16:32] <mattblack123> thanks benny :) I'll have a look at those
[16:32] <dunz0r> mattblack123: That's done with "Fritzing".
[16:33] <dunz0r> mattblack123: http://fritzing.org/home/
[16:35] <mattblack123> thanks dunz0r
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[17:33] <lifeforms> what kind of power draw can I expect from a original model B on debian which just has a cron job to take a snapshot every minute? thinking of putting it outside for a while and sizing the battery...
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[17:56] <neutrino> i suppose a lot of people who use the pi dont come online on IRC
[17:56] <neutrino> it'd be wonderfull if we could see children here
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[17:57] <neutrino> theyd learn a thing or two about hanging out on irc rather than waste time on facebook or myspace
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[17:58] <lost_soul> to each their own
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[18:06] <ppq> they would grow up being ... not-so-nice persons if constantly surrounded by the typical IRC users
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[18:06] <ppq> ;)
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[18:09] <ppq> i was 7 when i started using IRC and i think it did me no good
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[18:10] <ppq> but then, decades of exposure is hopefully not the regular case
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[19:23] <neutrino> so is there some sort of chatspace like gitter dedicated for the pi ? apart from the IRC , somewhere where a layman raspi user would hangout ?
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[19:24] <shiftplusone> That's the idea behind this channel
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[19:35] <neutrino> shiftplusone: yes but i dont think the layman would be comfortable with irc
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[19:36] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't underestimate them
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[20:27] <Boscop> lsusb lists Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8172 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
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[20:27] <Boscop> but no module for it is loaded and wlan0 doesn't exist
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[20:35] <shiftplusone> Boscop, compiled a kernel module before?
[20:36] <Boscop> yeah
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[20:37] <shiftplusone> google seems to suggest that driver is in staging, but will be replaced by rtl8192su
[20:38] <shiftplusone> so maybe use the staging one or this one https://github.com/chunkeey/rtl8192su
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[20:41] <Boscop> shiftplusone: where is the staging one?
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[20:42] <shiftplusone> it's in... staging. I would imagine.
[20:42] <shiftplusone> http://lwn.net/Articles/324279/
[20:43] <Boscop> in the folder staging in that repo?
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[20:46] <Boscop> shiftplusone: will the new driver support hostapd?
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[20:48] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/tree/rpi-3.12.y/drivers/staging/rtl8712
[20:48] <Boscop> thx
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[20:49] <Boscop> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (555119/555119), done.
[20:49] <Boscop> fatal: Out of memory, calloc failed
[20:49] <Boscop> fatal: index-pack failed
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[20:52] <Boscop> when trying to git clone wireless-testing
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[21:12] <no_maam> Hi
[21:13] <no_maam> I would like to test a raspberry pi image in qemu, but I would not like to recompile or change the kernel for the image
[21:13] <no_maam> Is it possible to use the standard raspberry pi kernel in qemu, perhaps with some extra command line arguments or something like that?
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[21:18] <MY123> It is possible with Tortulus Qemu.
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[21:20] <no_maam> thanks
[21:20] <no_maam> I assume that has not yet been integrated in the qemu mainline?
[21:21] <MY123> no_maam: Doesn't know.
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[21:27] <shiftplusone> torlus*
[21:27] <shiftplusone> and you don't get USB side of things
[21:27] <shiftplusone> so no network
[21:28] <shiftplusone> so there's definitely a trade-off and it's much easier to use a separate kernel
[21:28] <shiftplusone> Torlus was working with someone on getting it merged with upstream, but he seems to have disappeared.
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[21:38] <Boscop> i followed this tutorial but i can't see the video stream on http://192.168.1.108:8081/
[21:38] <Boscop> http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Completely-Wireless-IP-Camera-Solar/
[21:38] <MY123> shiftplusone: He has added USB support.
[21:38] <Boscop> 8080/tcp open http-proxy
[21:38] <Boscop> 8081/tcp open blackice-icecap
[21:39] <MY123> (2.0 only, crashes with 1.1)
[21:39] <Boscop> also 8080 doesn't work
[21:39] <Boscop> it's constantly loading
[21:39] <shiftplusone> oh really? Interesting
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[21:41] <Boscop> how can i know if my camera module is supported by motion?
[21:41] <justaguy> my pi produces lots of heat..., although it is running on low load
[21:42] <shiftplusone> justaguy, define 'lots of heat'
[21:42] <shiftplusone> output of vcgencmd measure_temp?
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[21:43] <justaguy> well, my hand doesn't burn down , t
[21:43] <justaguy> lets run that command
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[21:44] <justaguy> vcgencmd not found
[21:44] <shiftplusone> it doesn't matter if it feels hot to touch. What's hot for humans and what hot for electronics (especially these mobile SoCs) is not the same thing.
[21:44] <shiftplusone> ah, so you're running something non-standard
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[21:46] <justaguy> just raspbian, but cut down to reduce disk size
[21:47] <shiftplusone> there's a sysfs interface to get the temp instead, but I don't remember where it is off the top of my head. hang on
[21:47] <justaguy> i recall catting some file ages ago
[21:48] <shiftplusone> /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp ?
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[21:48] <justaguy> /sys/ doesn't exits :)
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[21:53] <Tenebrous> hmm speaking of which, anyone know if there's an event driven way to get the wlan0 tx_bytes & rx_bytes instead of continually cat'ing the relevant files?
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[21:59] <DanDare> clear
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[22:00] <Boscop> how can i check if my camera module works?
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[22:00] <SpeedEvil> ...
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[22:02] <justaguy> oh and he left
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[22:02] <Boscop> i have the noir camera module but i can't see anything at http://192.168.1.108:8081/ following this tutorial http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Completely-Wireless-IP-Camera-Solar/
[22:02] <shiftplusone> Boscop, just take a still normally using raspistill
[22:02] <SpeedEvil> ''
[22:03] <Boscop> how can i install that?
[22:03] <Boscop> apt-get doesn't find it
[22:03] <shiftplusone> libraspberrypi-bin
[22:03] <shiftplusone> iirc
[22:04] <shiftplusone> or something similar
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[22:06] <Boscop> shiftplusone: it says it's already the latest version
[22:06] <Boscop> but raspistill is not installed
[22:07] <shiftplusone> what's in /opt/vc/bin ?
[22:07] <Boscop> edidparser tvservice vcdbg vcgencmd vchiq_test
[22:08] <shiftplusone> might be one of the other libraspberrypi packages then =/
[22:09] <Boscop> but it says "The package libraspberrypi-bin includes the three main programs to use the camera, raspivid, raspistill, and raspiyuv"
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[22:33] <thatfunkymunki> hey all, i'm wondering if there is a way to send keyboard input to my RPI from my computer over the network
[22:33] <thatfunkymunki> essentially a LAN kvm switch
[22:33] <lost_soul> thatfunkymunki: you mean like ssh?
[22:33] <thatfunkymunki> kind of, but not my own session
[22:33] <lost_soul> err, I'm not sure I understand
[22:34] <lost_soul> what do you mean not your own session
[22:34] <thatfunkymunki> for example- i have my rpi hooked up via HDMI to a monitor, running raspbian or whatever. my keyboard and mouse are connected to my computer. i'd like to use that exact keyboard/mouse inside the raspbian session i see
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[22:35] <lost_soul> well I think I remember seeing network kvm switches, but they were hella pricey
[22:35] <thatfunkymunki> damn
[22:35] <thatfunkymunki> yeah, i was hoping not go down that route
[22:37] <lost_soul> thatfunkymunki: I've never needed/wanted to do what you are.. so not the best person to give advice on this.. stick around for others to answer
[22:37] <thatfunkymunki> roger, thx
[22:38] <[Saint]> thatfunkymunki: ...synergy.
[22:39] <[Saint]> thatfunkymunki: http://synergy-project.org/
[22:39] * [Saint] accepts all major credit cards and sexual favors as payment
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[22:39] <thatfunkymunki> [Saint]: thanks!!!
[22:39] <[Saint]> (preferably the latter)
[22:39] <thatfunkymunki> this is exactly what i was looking for
[22:39] <[Saint]> :))
[22:39] <thatfunkymunki> i wonder, does it support raspbmc?
[22:39] <[Saint]> No idea sorry.
[22:40] <[Saint]> I use it across all my machines at work and home.
[22:40] <[Saint]> So, your wishes brought it to mind immediately.
[22:40] <thatfunkymunki> that's awesome
[22:41] <[Saint]> "synergy on raspberrypi" yeilds MANY googly hits.
[22:41] <[Saint]> Good luck.
[22:41] <thatfunkymunki> :D
[22:41] <lost_soul> lol
[22:41] <lost_soul> nice... new stuff to play with
[22:42] <[Saint]> https://learn.adafruit.com/synergy-on-raspberry-pi/compiling-synergy-for-raspbian
[22:43] <thatfunkymunki> yep, looking at that exact link
[22:43] <Boscop> raspivid causes my raspberry pi to freeze
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[22:43] <Boscop> why?
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[22:45] <DanDare> Boscop, using raspbian?
[22:45] <Boscop> yes
[22:46] <DanDare> Boscop, not sure about your particular case but latest pi firmware have improved lot of stuff on camera modules. But I guess that you have the latest firmware already?
[22:46] <shiftplusone> probably due to a bad power supply
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[22:46] <Boscop> yes, i used raspbian-ua-netinst today and just did rpi-update
[22:47] <Boscop> DanDare, shiftplusone: it shows like 1 sec of video on the display before it freezes
[22:47] <DanDare> im not sure if rpi-update is nice on the netinstall as it does with raspbian
[22:47] <shiftplusone> yup... sounds like a power issue alright
[22:47] <Boscop> DanDare: why wouldn't it? how can i check this?
[22:48] <DanDare> Boscop, im not sure also, been just reading some forum posts lately. Also, check what shiftplusone says first
[22:48] <Boscop> (raspistill works btw)
[22:48] <Boscop> DanDare: how much power do i need?
[22:49] <Balzy> ehi there, I'm looking for a lightweight but powerful configuration for a CMS to be run on PI, I've already chose nginx as http server, what kind of cms would you recommend me? Someone suggested me a static generated one but it's too restrictive for me. I read wordpress is definitely too demanding. what would you suggest?
[22:49] <DanDare> Sorry, I have no idea
[22:49] <Tenebrous> anyone know if there's an event driven way to get the wlan0 tx_bytes & rx_bytes instead of continually cat'ing the relevant files?
[22:49] <thatfunkymunki> [Saint]: dammit, looks like raspbmc uses only framebuffer and doesn't support synergy
[22:49] <[Saint]> awwww, bums.
[22:51] <[Saint]> Balzy: forgive the pun, but, a raspi as a CMS is a rather...ballsy movee.
[22:51] <[Saint]> -e
[22:52] <[Saint]> There's pretty much no configuration in the world that will have it running /well/.
[22:52] <[Saint]> Perhaps /tolerably/, but, not well.
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[22:54] <shiftplusone> looks fine to me http://www.dingleberrypi.com/
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[22:55] <[Saint]> Granted, depends on your requirements, I guess.
[22:55] <Balzy> [Saint] I read many people were able to serve pages in less than a second and because of the upstream reduced bandwidth
[22:55] <Balzy> of course not with a wordpress blog
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[22:56] * [Saint] wonders how many requests he needs to send that poor little darling before it falls over and burns
[22:56] <[Saint]> ...best not be a meaner though.
[22:57] <Balzy> ah [Saint] of course I didn't mention it won't have to manage 100 request per second
[22:57] <Balzy> but just occasional visits
[22:58] <Balzy> otherwise I'd totally agree with you
[22:58] <Balzy> shiftplusone is that blog yours?
[22:59] <shiftplusone> no sir
[22:59] <shiftplusone> I think it might be Gadget-Mac's but I'm not sure.
[23:02] <Balzy> Gadget-Mac ! Is that blog yours? www.dingleberrypi.com ?
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[23:06] <[Saint]> Hahahahaha, JCase:
[23:06] <[Saint]> "Hey BlackBerry idiots, stop miss quoting me on your blogs. Your phone is only "secure" because it has few users and little value as a target."
[23:07] <[Saint]> lulz
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[23:07] <MY123> [Saint]: Ahem.
[23:07] <[Saint]> Can't argue with truth.
[23:08] <[Saint]> The last sentence there is certainly true.
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[23:08] <thatfunkymunki> [Saint]: i don't get that quote
[23:08] <thatfunkymunki> he rooted the blackphone
[23:08] <thatfunkymunki> not the blackberry
[23:09] <[Saint]> And the Blackberry community was all like "Lulz, Android, so insecure! Lulz!"
[23:09] <[Saint]> Forgetting that its "secure" because NO ONE cares about it as a target.
[23:09] <thatfunkymunki> tha'ts not quite true
[23:09] <[Saint]> 'cos of its pitiful market share.
[23:09] <thatfunkymunki> i'm in the US air force as an IT guy
[23:09] <thatfunkymunki> we use blackberries for all of our VIPs
[23:09] <Balzy> does blackberry still exist?
[23:10] <[Saint]> Right, and you do so, for the above mentioned reason.
[23:10] <[Saint]> Security via obscurity.
[23:10] <thatfunkymunki> well i think that people care about it as a target due to the fact that the US military uses it
[23:10] <thatfunkymunki> maybe not the same people that civillians worry about
[23:10] <[Saint]> Surprisingly, ...no.
[23:10] <[Saint]> No high value targets use it.
[23:11] <thatfunkymunki> i wouldn't say that
[23:11] <[Saint]> Depends what you mean by high value.
[23:11] <thatfunkymunki> not monetary value, maybe military value
[23:11] <[Saint]> there's far easier holes to exploit.
[23:14] * [Saint] notes the most US government agencies are dropping Blackberry like a hot rock
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[23:15] <[Saint]> Samsung and LG are the new flavor of the day.
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[23:18] <MY123> Security via obscurity -> [Saint] : Microdollar Door 8.1.
[23:19] <MY123> Or µ$̂ [] ''''
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[23:19] <[Saint]> Can't really compare the two, though, I agree.
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[23:20] <[Saint]> Blackberry: ~0.6% market share
[23:20] <[Saint]> 8.1: ~7% market share
[23:21] <MY123> [Saint]: Microdollar Door OldTechnology 4.0 is exactly that.
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[23:23] <MY123> (Sorry for Microsoftees if they now hate me)
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[23:23] <[Saint]> Only just now?
[23:24] <MY123> [Saint]: eihrgtsjveiej thidieorjbs_e,nhienfaijdhrp ?
[23:25] * Xark gets his Raspberry Pi B+ (gotta love Amazon Sunday delivery). It sure is a much nicer, professional looking layout (along with other enhancements).
[23:26] <MY123> Yhjsjozjgqu';nsfzubfsjzkhoz,,ajmaloao,djeybvetevvkrindksut"v , [Saint] ? By the premium random generator v1.6 .
[23:26] <DanDare> Hello there Xark
[23:26] <Xark> DanDare: Hey there. How are things going?
[23:26] <DanDare> Xark, not bad :) You ?
[23:27] <Xark> DanDare: Can't complain (but sometimes I still do...). :)
[23:28] * [Saint] thinks if you can't complain you're simply not putting in enough effort
[23:28] <DanDare> hahah ok. Well, same here :p
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[23:29] * Xark plays Joe Walsh's "Life's Been Good To Me So Far" in his head... :)
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[23:35] * MY123 do a ************Kernel*Panic************ on his system by hot-unplugging a PCI-E graphics card.
[23:35] <mikroskeem> Hey how fast could max overvolting (value 8) kill my pi?
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[23:35] <MY123> mikroskeem: 7 years.
[23:36] <mikroskeem> MY123: you counted it?
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[23:37] <MY123> mikroskeem: Theorical. My Pi is at 1250MHz since a year and half.
[23:37] <[Saint]> Ohhhh Hugo Barra, you delightful little PG goon you...
[23:37] <[Saint]> *PR, even.
[23:38] <mikroskeem> MY123: what's your config? i cant get my pi running at even 1200mhz
[23:38] * jiuweigui (~jiuweigui@unaffiliated/jiuweigui) Quit (Quit: I gotta run. I've got universe to master.)
[23:38] <[Saint]> That's because not all silicon is created equally.
[23:38] <[Saint]> There's ZERO guarantee its even possible.
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[23:39] <mikroskeem> [Saint]: wtf r u talking about? your silicon boobs?
[23:39] <[Saint]> That's silicone, my dear.
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[23:40] <mikroskeem> ok i keep it in mind
[23:40] <MY123> mikroskeem: Core freq at 600MHz with avoid_pwm_pll and overvoltage of the SDram.
[23:40] <mikroskeem> hmm
[23:40] <mikroskeem> my core is on 750
[23:40] <[Saint]> (actually, nowadays, its saline...but, hey)
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[23:40] <mikroskeem> and sd card isn't still fried
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[23:41] <MY123> mikroskeem: Did you toast your warranty for lunch ?
[23:41] <mikroskeem> for breakfast actually
[23:41] <[Saint]> The TL;DR version is "every SoC is different, some clock a LOT higher than 1.2GHz, others won't even hold stable at 1GHz"
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[23:42] <[Saint]> Welcome to the world of mass produced silicon.
[23:42] * icecube45 is now known as icecube45[Away]
[23:43] <mikroskeem> i remember my old pi: fuses blowd, replaced with direct connections, max overvolt, 500mhz cpu(kernel panics on 600mhz wtf)
[23:43] <MY123> mikroskeem: If you are not very lucky do a voltimod and put a 2,3V VCore.
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[23:43] <mikroskeem> how to voltimod?
[23:43] <mikroskeem> :D
[23:44] <MY123> mikroskeem: RTFM :)
[23:44] <MY123> mikroskeem: Or duck it.
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[23:49] <mikroskeem> anyone else noticed that elinux.org is fcked up?
[23:50] <gordonDrogon> anyone noticed that this is supposed to be a family friendly channel?
[23:50] <MY123> mikroskeem: Don't use that $BAD_LANG here.
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> the information is still there on the elinux site - just looks like the theme/style sheets are missing.
[23:51] <[Saint]> While family friendly is largely meaningless, its a clear indication that said user hasn't read the topic, which isn't.
[23:51] <mikroskeem> sorry for bad lang
[23:51] <mikroskeem> by bad
[23:52] <[Saint]> The huge problem with "family friendly" is the large amount of diversity between families and what is considered acceptable.
[23:52] <[Saint]> But hardcoded rules embedded in a topic can't be argued.
[23:53] <mikroskeem> hmm some elinux pages doesn't work
[23:54] <mikroskeem> like main page
[23:54] <[Saint]> RPF really needs it own damn wiki
[23:54] <mikroskeem> exactly
[23:54] <MY123> mikroskeem: Try the Wayback Machine.
[23:54] <mikroskeem> MY123: tried
[23:54] <mikroskeem> and not all pages arent there
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[23:55] <[Saint]> Its like they just went "Oooooohhhh...those guys have a wiki, they won't mind if we increase their load by a few thousand %...will they?" :)
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[23:55] <[Saint]> What harm can 3M pi users do? :P
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[23:56] <mikroskeem> [Saint]: harmless browsing in wiki
[23:56] <MY123> mikroskeem: Add a 127.0.0.1 elinux.org in your /etc/hosts
[23:56] <MY123> :P
[23:56] <mikroskeem> meh
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[23:57] <[Saint]> It seems really weird to me that a large part of the technical documentation and help topics aren't actually hosted by the RPF at all.
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[23:58] <gordonDrogon> the power of the community...
[23:58] * icecube45[Away] is now known as icecube45
[23:58] <[Saint]> Want to get set up? Great. Come see us. Want to learn how to actually use the ting? See...errr...those guys over there. They'll probably have some stuff. They have a wiki.
[23:58] <gordonDrogon> the foundation have very limited resources...
[23:58] <[Saint]> pfffft.
[23:58] <gordonDrogon> so if some site does something well, then ....
[23:59] <MY123> [Saint]: They just did rm -rf /${GARBAGE}
[23:59] <[Saint]> I bet RPF has a truckload more resources than eLinux.

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