#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-08-11

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[0:00] <MY123> [Saint]: 35 million dollar is nothing.
[0:00] <[Saint]> heh
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[0:00] <shiftplusone> [Saint], that's being addressed, but it will take a while. https://github.com/raspberrypi/documentation
[0:01] <[Saint]> Woo!
[0:02] * MY123 thinks that the official Pi documentation is nearly empty , especially the troubleshooting section.
[0:03] <thatfunkymunki> hmmm
[0:03] <[Saint]> Fancy a WIP being incomplete...
[0:03] <thatfunkymunki> so is there any way anyone knows of to get netflix working on rpi without onplay?
[0:03] <[Saint]> Wonders never cease.
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[0:03] <shiftplusone> thatfunkymunki, nope
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[0:04] <MY123> thatfunkymunki: Send millions of dollars to Advanced DRM Co. (Intel).
[0:05] <[Saint]> Speaking of netflix, Chrome *finally* supports it on Linux natively.
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[0:06] <MY123> [Saint]: Not with 100percent OSS SW.
[0:06] <[Saint]> ...but, hilariously, Netflix still needs to think its a Windows based machine due to blocking Linux arbitrarily.
[0:06] <UnaClocker> heh
[0:06] <[Saint]> MY123: well, boo hoo.
[0:06] <Boscop> cvlc v4l2:///dev/video0 --v4l2-width 1920 --v4l2-height 1080 --v4l2hroma h264 --sout '#rtp{sdp=rtsp://:8554/}'
[0:06] <Boscop> [0xef2090] v4l2 access error: device does not support mmap I/O
[0:06] <Boscop> [0xef2090] v4l2 access error: device does not support mmap I/O
[0:06] <Boscop> [0xef0148] main input error: open of `v4l2:///dev/video0' failed
[0:06] <Boscop> [0xef0148] main input error: Your input can't be opened
[0:06] <Boscop> [0xef0148] main input error: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'v4l2:///dev/video0'. Check the log for details.
[0:06] <Boscop> why doesn'T it work?
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[0:06] <[Saint]> If you only use OSS, you're in for a bad bad time.
[0:07] <[Saint]> Boscop: CURRENT USER ISN'T A MEMBER OF THE VIDEO GROUP?
[0:07] <[Saint]> eeek, bloody capslock.
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[0:08] <Boscop> [Saint]: why would that matter?
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[0:08] <[Saint]> Since I'm walking out the door, I can't really be buggered thinking of a concise answer for that I'm afraid.
[0:08] <MY123> Boscop: RTFM. Really(TM).
[0:09] <MY123> It is for security.
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[0:09] <Boscop> how can i load the default module after doing a modprobe on the camera?
[0:10] <Boscop> i tried this but had 13 second latency: http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-hardware/raspberry-pi-camera/streaming-video-using-vlc-player
[0:10] <Boscop> then i tried what the guy in the last comment suggests: Run `sudo modprobe bcm2835-v4l2`, then any vlc command such as `cvlc v4l2:///dev/video0 --v4l2-width 1920 --v4l2-height 1080 --v4l2-chroma h264 --sout '#rtp{sdp=rtsp://:8554/}'`.
[0:10] <Boscop> but that gave the above error
[0:10] <DanDare> Boscop, you mean, getting rid of a compiled/downloaded driver, using a native one instead?
[0:11] <Boscop> and then the light of my camera is still on
[0:11] <MY123> Boscop: Try to run cvlc with sudo.
[0:11] <Boscop> MY123: i am root
[0:12] <UnaClocker> I soldered a new SD card slot onto one of my Pi. Had managed to break the plastic one it had. Now it's got a great big metal one, the kind you push the card in and it latches, then push again and it springs out.
[0:12] <Boscop> DanDare: i did modprobe bcm2835-v4l2 but now want to revert to the default module
[0:12] <[Saint]> UnaClocker: the type it should've had all along.
[0:12] <[Saint]> Not that friction based balls.
[0:13] * [Saint] too has made that exact modification on many units
[0:13] <Boscop> i'm trying to find a way to stream the camera output with low latency
[0:13] <DanDare> Boscop, I guess you can blacklist the one you wont loading at boot, by editing some file under /etc/modprobe.b
[0:13] <Boscop> 13 seconds is way too long
[0:14] <DanDare> add a line like "blacklist bcm2835-v4l2"
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[0:14] <Boscop> DanDare: why blacklist?
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[0:14] <Boscop> i want to load the default one while it's running
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[0:14] <Boscop> the one that was unloaded by loading this one
[0:14] <DanDare> Boscop, if you blacklist it, it wont load. Will load a default one instead (if any is present)
[0:14] <Boscop> i don't mean during boot
[0:15] <DanDare> so use modprobe -r to remove it
[0:15] <Boscop> ok but then i'm still left with the slow streaming method in this article: http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-hardware/raspberry-pi-camera/streaming-video-using-vlc-player
[0:16] <Boscop> with 13 secs latency
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[0:19] <DanDare> I would try zoneminder. But no idea how it would behave on the pi
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[1:04] <[Saint]> Wakka-Wakka Wakka-Wakka Wakka-Wakka...
[1:04] <[Saint]> http://i.imgur.com/K8hX8Nt.jpg
[1:07] <lost_soul> yes, Electricity.. just what I would want running over my face throughout the night
[1:07] <lost_soul> :\
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[1:10] * abnormal sends the hobbit crew to lost_soul to give him an appearance ticket
[1:11] <lost_soul> nice, hobbit stew for dinner tomorrow
[1:12] <abnormal> no no no.... they too stern to be buchered....
[1:12] <lost_soul> watch me
[1:12] <abnormal> sorry u don't wear a watch...
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[1:14] <lost_soul> I really should have got a desktop rather than a laptop
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[1:14] <[Saint]> In this day and age, laptops are just...weird.
[1:15] <[Saint]> To small to have practical hardware, too big to bother carring around.
[1:15] <[Saint]> Hell...even netbooks.
[1:15] <abnormal> that's cuz u looking at them weirdly
[1:15] <[Saint]> My phone is more capable than most netbooks on the market these days.
[1:15] <lost_soul> [Saint]: just needd something to do work on at school.. their systems just suck
[1:16] <abnormal> that's cuz they linux
[1:16] <lost_soul> fortunately I got a pretty decent deal on it
[1:16] <[Saint]> abnormal: that makes absolutely zero sense
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[1:16] <lost_soul> abnormal: the majority of my classes if centered on anything.. were centered on Microsoft products
[1:16] <abnormal> of course
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[1:16] <[Saint]> lost_soul: I just use debian on my Nexus 5 and a VNC client.
[1:17] <[Saint]> Bam. Pocket netbook.
[1:17] <lost_soul> [Saint]: hmmmm, guess I should have bought my tablet first
[1:17] <lost_soul> I don't own a cell phone
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[1:17] <[Saint]> Ugggggh. DOn't bay a tablet.
[1:18] <[Saint]> They're just as useless as laptops and netbooks.
[1:18] <lost_soul> to late
[1:18] <[Saint]> Wah wah. :-/
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[1:18] <lost_soul> lol
[1:18] <[Saint]> (sad trombone noise, if anyone was wondering)
[1:18] <lost_soul> that thing I didn't get a very great deal on :\
[1:19] <[Saint]> Tablets are great and all, but, they're *so* nice. No telephony, and, too large to be carried around practically.
[1:19] <[Saint]> s/nice/niche/
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[1:20] <lost_soul> [Saint]: I actually wanted the larger tablet.. it surely beats carring around 7 books and the primary purpose was reading my textbooks (as I've found most online)
[1:20] <abnormal> well, Nook is a tablet... indestructive one...
[1:20] <lost_soul> ended up with the nexus 10
[1:20] <[Saint]> The Nook is an abomination.
[1:20] <lost_soul> I had a nook, it wasn't all that great at reading textbooks
[1:21] <[Saint]> Its pretty hard to make Android any worse, but, they managed it...
[1:21] <lost_soul> hahah, not an android fan eh [Saint]
[1:22] <[Saint]> Oh, no, I am. I'm not much a fan of the bastardization thereof, though.
[1:22] <[Saint]> AOSP or bust.
[1:22] <[Saint]> Most of the problems people think they have with Android are really vendor induced.
[1:24] <[Saint]> Very few people will actually even recognize "pure" Android in my experience.
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[1:24] <[Saint]> "The Masses" think of TouchWiz, MotoBlur, Sense, et al.
[1:24] <[Saint]> Not AOSP.
[1:24] <[Saint]> AOSP is a very different creature.
[1:25] <lost_soul> my only android experience really was with the nook.. then with the nexus
[1:25] <[Saint]> That must've been a shock.
[1:25] <lost_soul> of which the nexus stomps the nook... of course they are completely different devices
[1:25] <[Saint]> "Oooooohhhh, *this* is how its supposed to be..."
[1:25] <lost_soul> LOL
[1:25] <lost_soul> yea.. I like the nexus much more
[1:25] <lost_soul> but I only went for the nook ebook reader not the one that was more of a tablet.. just the black and white model
[1:26] * [Saint] is really loving his Korean S5.
[1:26] <lost_soul> but yes, completely different world
[1:26] <lost_soul> [Saint]: how is it for reading books.. seems as though would be a lot of scrolling for average sized text
[1:27] <[Saint]> I spent /waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay/ too much bringing in a Snapdragon 805 powered S5 from Korea.
[1:27] <[Saint]> lost_soul: the resolution on both devices in question here is rather comparable.
[1:27] <[Saint]> with the device in landscape mode, its pretty much identical to 1/2 the screen of the other.
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[1:28] <[Saint]> So, yeah, there's some scrolling, but the other facotrs more than make up for this.
[1:28] <lost_soul> nice
[1:28] <[Saint]> (like, fitting in a pocket, and telephony)
[1:28] <lost_soul> if I actually needed a cell phone and could afford a plan I likely would have went a similar route rather than gettin the tablet
[1:29] <lost_soul> but I honestly hate talking on the phone and only do so when absolutely necessary
[1:29] <[Saint]> I just wish the hacker-Gods would bless the community with a workable exploit for the S5 and Knox.
[1:29] <[Saint]> TouchWiz can go and suck walnuts.
[1:30] <[Saint]> I'll give it a month, if there's no promising exploit by then, I'll put it back up for sale.
[1:31] <lost_soul> isn't that phone a bit big to throw in your pocket though
[1:31] <[Saint]> (While I reside in NZ, I managed to source the Korean S5 as it has the same bands we use here for telephony)
[1:31] <[Saint]> Nah.
[1:31] <lost_soul> it's strange... cell phones went from being huge... then the rage was making them as small as possible... not we're going big again
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[1:32] <lost_soul> granted not bag phone big
[1:32] * [Saint] has a cellphone that resides in a briefcase and needs mains input.
[1:32] <[Saint]> It also has a 3m extendable antenna.
[1:33] <[Saint]> Very portable, lol.
[1:33] <lost_soul> sounds more like a ham radio ffs
[1:33] <lost_soul> :\
[1:34] <[Saint]> VHF/UHF, linked to the old PSTN.
[1:34] <[Saint]> It was never functional in the time I had it.
[1:34] <[Saint]> I got it for the lulz.
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[1:35] <[Saint]> Anyway, yeah...while I see that some people would find 5.1" diagonal too large for a mobile handset, those people just need bigger pockets. :)
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[1:36] <[Saint]> When one actually has the device in their hands, its a very nice fit.
[1:36] <[Saint]> Unless you happen to be a 8yo girl or something.
[1:36] <lost_soul> haha
[1:37] <SpeedEvil> And if you're an 8yo girl, it's a tablet.
[1:37] <SpeedEvil> Even if you're an 8yo girl - it's hella less bulky than a brick phone was :)
[1:37] <SpeedEvil> (I am not an 8yo girl)
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[1:37] <[Saint]> When I first got it, I used to hold it in two hands in a veritable death grip (since it cost me just shy of $1500 to get into NZ so early)
[1:38] <[Saint]> But now, I find it is easily operated with one hand.
[1:38] <[Saint]> I can reach all edges and corners of the screen with my thumb.
[1:38] <lost_soul> yikes, now that is pricey
[1:39] <[Saint]> Shipping, customs duties, buying the device outright days after launch...
[1:39] <[Saint]> + wanting it *nao!*.
[1:39] <lost_soul> I've always waited for at least three months to buy something after launched
[1:40] <[Saint]> I had to route it through the US as well, which was rather costly.
[1:40] <lost_soul> having it first is nice.. but knowing of any potential pitfalls or defects is nice too
[1:40] <[Saint]> Otherwise I would've been waiting an extra week.
[1:40] <[Saint]> And, nuts to that.
[1:40] <lost_soul> so about a third of the cost was shipping/taxes and such roughly?
[1:41] <[Saint]> ~25%
[1:41] <lost_soul> ah.. bit less than
[1:41] <lost_soul> still that is a lot of money just to get it to your door
[1:42] <[Saint]> There's no real way it can blow up on me, though. I've been buying flagship devices immediately for a few years now, and one thing that is always true is that there's someone else out there willing to take it off your hands to get it just that little bit earlier themselves.
[1:43] <[Saint]> If I decide not to keep it, I'll sell it, and walk away clean.
[1:43] <[Saint]> If not walk away with a profit.
[1:43] <lost_soul> nice
[1:43] <[Saint]> (electronics jump in price exponentially when they hit the NZ market)
[1:43] <[Saint]> I *despise* lock-in contracts.
[1:44] <[Saint]> I've been contract free for about 6 years now.
[1:44] <[Saint]> Its a lot more expensive to freehold my devices, but, *I* own them.
[1:44] <[Saint]> And to me, that's important.
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[1:46] <lost_soul> [Saint]: yea, when I did own a cell phone I purchased the last three myself to avoid contracts too
[1:47] <lost_soul> I even purchased older phones and they were still a bit pricey
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[3:26] <gorelative> hey everyone
[3:27] <abnormal> howdie
[3:27] <gorelative> im trying to control an NKC Electronics 16x LCD with an arduino i can use 3 pin (what NKC calls Serial) but im not sure how i can do this with the pi
[3:27] <gorelative> the LCD has 10 connections, not 16.
[3:27] <gorelative> 16x2*
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[3:29] <abnormal> hmmm,,, I'm not experienced with the display, sorry, I can't help you on that...
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[3:32] <gorelative> www.nkcelectronics.com/16x2-Serial-LCD-Module-Blue-with-White-backlight_p_347.html
[3:32] <gorelative> thats it
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[3:38] <abnormal> hmmm don't have plugin to see pic, but does have the connection info....
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[3:46] <gorelative> this is what ill be doing
[3:46] <gorelative> http://i.imgur.com/Au3rSAl.png
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[3:46] <gorelative> if i can get away with three wires on the LCD hmm
[3:47] <UnaClocker> Sure, if you make a serial backpack for the LCD
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[3:47] <gorelative> it has one i think already
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[3:48] <gorelative> www.nkcelectronics.com/16x2-Serial-LCD-Module-Blue-with-White-backlight_p_347.html
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[3:55] <abnormal> looks good, but I wud rather buy the PiFace that has display on it and plug and play ready...
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[3:56] <gorelative> yeah but this is hw i have laying around
[3:56] <gorelative> no extra cash yet
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[3:58] <abnormal> ok be careful tho
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[4:07] <elspru> hey, how do I increase the number of tty terminals?
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[4:07] <elspru> one is simply not enough.
[4:09] <pksato> ?
[4:10] <elspru> on the raspberry pi, when login through terminal, there is only one, ctrl+alt+f1 wheras f2 is already x server, typically f1-f6 is terminals and f7 is x..
[4:10] <pksato> open new terminal.
[4:10] <elspru> i don't like using X if I don't have to..
[4:11] <pksato> alt+fn not change to other?
[4:11] <elspru> nope :-(
[4:11] <pksato> ps ax | grep tty
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[4:11] <pksato> show how many ttys?
[4:12] <elspru> it lists 1-7
[4:12] <elspru> so they are there, guess it's the shortcuts that isn't working.
[4:12] <pksato> have /sbin/getty 38400 ttyN lines?
[4:13] <pksato> try chvt N command
[4:13] <elspru> oops, sorry, that was ps aux on other machine, on raspberry pi one the 1.
[4:13] <elspru> only*
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[4:14] <elspru> and it is /sbin/getty -L ttyAMA0 11529 vt199
[4:15] <elspru> vt100*
[4:16] <pksato> check if not is on single mode, with runlevel
[4:16] <pksato> N 2
[4:16] <elspru> yes that is the mode
[4:17] <elspru> how do I change the default runlevel?
[4:17] <pksato> edit file /etc/inittab
[4:17] <pksato> is on runlevel 2?
[4:17] <elspru> yes says N 2
[4:17] <pksato> if is raspbian, 2 is default level.
[4:18] <elspru> which mode would give me multiple tty?
[4:18] <pksato> enable more tty on /etc/inittab
[4:18] <pksato> 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
[4:19] <elspru> cool thanks :-)
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[4:21] <pksato> and kill -1 1
[4:21] <pksato> to enable
[4:21] <elspru> awesome :-)
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[4:32] <herdingcat> hi, can anyone run hdparm -T <SD card device> and paste result in RPi?
[4:32] <herdingcat> I would like to know the performance of the memory speed, thanks
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[4:34] <lost_soul> Timing cached reads: 86 MB in 2.02 seconds = 42.53 MB/sec
[4:34] <lost_soul> herdingcat: that is for you, of course
[4:34] <herdingcat> lost_soul, thank you, can you run 3 times?
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[4:36] <lost_soul> http://pastebin.com/Zmng1RXU
[4:37] <herdingcat> LostInInaka, , cool, can you also do me a favor? Do you have unixbench?
[4:37] <herdingcat> LostInInaka, can we issue unixbench and see processor performance?
[4:37] <lost_soul> not on that system, it's strictly a media center
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[4:38] <herdingcat> lost_soul, ah, right thanks
[4:39] <lost_soul> herdingcat: the best I can do without inserting a card with another distro is top
[4:39] <herdingcat> lost_soul, yeah, no worry :)
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[4:41] <DanDare> herdingcat, for me is "Timing cached reads: 328 MB in 2.00 seconds = 163.68 MB/sec"
[4:41] <DanDare> what sounds not the real speed anyway while copying stuff etc
[4:41] <herdingcat> DanDare, in RPi?
[4:42] <DanDare> herdingcat, yeah, with raspbian
[4:42] <lost_soul> holy hell
[4:42] <herdingcat> DanDare that;s pretty fast.
[4:42] <DanDare> but Im not sure the meaning of that. I mean, in real tasks, its not that fast
[4:42] <lost_soul> what sd card are you using DanDare
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[4:43] <lost_soul> or were you the one using NFS primarily
[4:43] <DanDare> this SD card has a "4" in it. It means its class 4?
[4:43] <lost_soul> wtf, I'm using a class 10 and got like 45 at the most
[4:43] <DanDare> lost_soul, im using latest firmwares, but all packages from official debian repo (soft-float ones)
[4:44] <DanDare> lost_soul, not sure if it may be the cause, but im just testing this install method: http://blog.kmp.or.at/2012/05/build-your-own-raspberry-pi-image/
[4:44] <herdingcat> DanDare, actually it;s memory read speed
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[4:45] <lost_soul> hrrrm
[4:45] <DanDare> yeah. But like I said, copying archives in real tasks is not as fast as 163.68 MB/sec
[4:45] <DanDare> I wish it was that fast
[4:45] <lost_soul> the only thing I can think of that may be slowing mine down is the fact that when the tests were going the system was streaming a movie at the same time
[4:45] <DanDare> anyway, the output of hdparm for me is that value
[4:45] <lost_soul> otherwise, I dunno
[4:46] <DanDare> but really, this SD card is faster than all other ones I have
[4:46] <DanDare> it wins "the main card" prize in here
[4:47] <lost_soul> I guess so
[4:47] <DanDare> *its a sandisk one
[4:47] <lost_soul> it's stomping my brand new sandisk
[4:47] <lost_soul> grrr
[4:48] <DanDare> but really, im not sure about its class
[4:48] <DanDare> it has a "4" printed in it, but im not sure if it means the class
[4:48] <lost_soul> that is what it means
[4:48] <lost_soul> how depressing
[4:48] <DanDare> ok, thanks
[4:49] <DanDare> lost_soul, maybe there are other factors affecting hdparm results and you get *real world* better results with your card than with mine
[4:49] <lost_soul> is it a sandisk extreme or something like that
[4:50] <DanDare> I dont think so. Just the regular sandisk you find on the market. At least I guess so, not sure though
[4:50] <lost_soul> DanDare: well, like I said the system was streaming a movie at the same time.. but I'm sure your pi was doing something at the same time you ran the test
[4:50] <DanDare> "microSD-HC"
[4:50] * lost_soul puts a dunce cap on his sdcard and sends it to the corner
[4:51] <DanDare> :P
[4:52] <lost_soul> I'm going to hook up a class 4 and see what that registers tomorrow.. If it is higher than my brand new class 10 then Sandisk is getting a very nasty letter.
[4:52] <DanDare> hahaha
[4:53] <DanDare> nice. Now im curious about what will be your test results
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[4:53] <lost_soul> oh... you'll know if the class 4 beats it.. I have a tendency to bitch for hours when I'm mad
[4:53] <lost_soul> ;)
[4:53] <DanDare> heheh
[4:54] <clever> ive heard that some class 10 cards are specialized for bulk io, so you can record a single video at high speed, or store massive photos
[4:54] <lost_soul> I'll retest the class 10 when girlie isn't watching a movie, just in case that makes it better
[4:54] <DanDare> lost_soul, yeah, reboot pi and perform the test
[4:54] <clever> and if you try to do small io like a file-system and os, it wont perform nearly as well
[4:54] <DanDare> lost_soul, for what matters, my pi wasn't doing anything specific when I ran the test
[4:55] <lost_soul> DanDare: yea, after she goes to bed
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[4:55] <DanDare> i just installed xfce4
[4:55] <lost_soul> clever: that might be the case.. I remember the case mentioning video and pictures.. but still that is a huge difference from the speeds DanDare is seeing
[4:56] <lost_soul> admittedly it's been doing fine in daily usage for the last three days
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[4:56] <clever> i feel that under normal use with something like video playback, it shouldnt even be touching the sd card
[4:56] <clever> so the card speed shouldnt matter any
[4:57] <clever> enless your storing videos on the card, but i wouldnt do that either
[4:57] <lost_soul> clever: yea, the only thing actually on the card is the OS.. the movies are streaming off my NAS
[4:57] <clever> and the os files related to video playback should fit in ram easily
[4:57] <clever> so once its loaded, the card speed means nothing
[4:58] <lost_soul> yea.. eventually though I will have the movie data scrapped and cover art which will be on the card
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[4:58] <clever> ah
[4:58] <lost_soul> so having a relatively quick card would be nice
[5:00] * clever heads to bed
[5:00] <[Saint]> class rating is most definitely not an interesting metric.
[5:00] <[Saint]> but its one Joe Everday can make sense of.
[5:01] <[Saint]> realistically, though, its completely bloody useless.
[5:01] <DanDare> so, what are the differences with not I/O speeds?
[5:01] <[Saint]> random reads and writes are *far* more interesting than bulk contiguous transfer.
[5:01] <DanDare> *if not
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[5:02] <[Saint]> a raspi is going to be doing a bunch of tiny reads and writes scattered oddly acorss the disk.
[5:02] <[Saint]> not bulk contiguous transfers.
[5:02] <[Saint]> (at least, not often)
[5:02] <[Saint]> *across
[5:03] <lost_soul> [Saint]: perhaps, but it's rather annoying a microsd class 4 with an adapter is 3 times faster than a brand new class 10 at least in testing it
[5:04] <lost_soul> like I said though it has been working fine, but atm all it has on it is the os.. which will soon change
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[5:05] <[Saint]> do keep in mind that that speed is the average over 2 seconds.
[5:05] <[Saint]> take it with a grain of salt. ;)
[5:06] <lost_soul> uh huh, it still annoys me though.. can't help it :p
[5:06] <[Saint]> you'll almost certainly see mass transfer level out to a far more sane level, very quickly.
[5:06] <[Saint]> think of it similarly to download speeds calculators.
[5:06] <[Saint]> almost always bonkers in the first few seconds.
[5:07] <lost_soul> okay, I'll try a large transfer before I write to Sandisk to complain
[5:07] <lost_soul> hopefully that at least gets me a better result
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[5:10] * [Saint] smirks
[5:11] <[Saint]> Timing cached reads: 7824 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3917.4 MB/sec
[5:12] <[Saint]> (a "real" disk with a much faster cache)
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[5:12] <lost_soul> [Saint]: show off
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[5:14] <[Saint]> I wonder what it thinks about my RAID array...
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[6:03] <J033> Hello, everybody. I am looking to purchase a Raspberry Pi to install OpenELEC or a similar OS to use it mainly for XMBC. Is there a starter kit or bundle that gives me everything I need? Or would it just be cheaper to buy everything separately? Thanks!
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[6:07] <DanDare> J033, I think you can just buy separately. Its just the Pi + SD card + any case
[6:08] <DanDare> J033, the OS you download from raspberry pi page. So its simple to compare these 3 items sold as kit or separately
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[6:08] <DanDare> J033, Oh, I forgot to mention: plus a good power supply also ...
[6:09] <J033> DanDare: Alright, thank you! Do I need a WiFi adapter? Also, can I use OpenELEC and control the Pi with a Android device?
[6:10] <DanDare> J033, im not used to OpenELEC but its possible using android do control it using raspbmc. I guess its ok with Openelec because the remote control options is a XMBC thing
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[6:10] <ebarch> J033: yup, I've used OpenELEC w/ the android xbmc remote
[6:11] <DanDare> J033, you can plug pi using a ethernet cable... or buy a wifi adaptor if you want it go wireless
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[6:12] <J033> Great, thank you guys! I've read mixed reviews on steaming from XBMC.. Should it be okay streaming TV shows? It won't be 1080p. I will be using a video RCA for an old television :p
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[6:13] <DanDare> J033, im not sure. Im new to pi also, got very limited experience with xbmc on it, just a few runs to see how it looks (on HDMI)
[6:13] <lost_soul> J033: I stream 1080p videos, tv shows.. using OE which is based off XBMC
[6:14] <lost_soul> the only thing you'll likely want to do is turn off RSS feeds and possibly not display cover art as if you have a very large collection that can slow the interface down a bit while browsing.. videos still play fine
[6:14] <DanDare> not sure about openelec but raspbmc will void the warranty on the first run. (it has force_turbo=1) :/
[6:15] <J033> lost_soul: Alright, thanks! I'll keep that in mind. Do you stream using ethernet or a WiFi adapter? I've heard the WiFi can cause some laggy playback.
[6:15] <lost_soul> J033: I use ethernet only
[6:15] <J033> lost_soul: Do you think WiFi connection could cause a noticeable difference?
[6:16] <lost_soul> J033: I've never used a wifi adapter on the pi so I really couldn't say... I would say it could certainly cause considerable lag if you got a device that isn't supported very well.. prolly less so with a well supported device
[6:17] <lost_soul> but I'm certainly not the person to ask about wifi on the pi
[6:17] <lost_soul> J033: I take it hardwired connection is out of the question?
[6:18] <J033> lost_soul: For now, yes. :p
[6:19] <lost_soul> J033: at an absolute minimum I would talk to people to find out their experience with wifi dongles and also I would first install OE and use hardwire eithernet just so you can see how everything is that way... then hookup the wifi dongle and move it to where it needs to be so you'll have a better idea if an issue exists with the pi or the wifi dongle
[6:19] <lost_soul> or what not
[6:20] <lost_soul> other than a bit of trouble finding a decent power supply I've had a very nice experience using a pi as a small media center system
[6:21] <lost_soul> I would also suggest sticking to the default theme... other themes don't always run very well
[6:22] <J033> lost_soul: That makes sense, thanks! I will definitely do that once I get everything ordered. I am finding two different products on Newegg.. Are they both the same? I have a couple gift cards, so I'd like to get the Pi from there. Thanks!
[6:22] <lost_soul> J033: I don't know what you're seeing.. Do make sure to get the B+ model though
[6:23] <lost_soul> it will have 4 usb ports
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[6:25] <J033> lost_soul: Thanks for the heads up! I just need to find a 2A @ 5V power supply, right?
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[6:27] <lost_soul> J033: That is what they say to find, yes. However I had a 5V 2A supply that I modded to power via usb and it wasn't stable with newer builds of OE. I found another 5v 2A supply and soldered a USB port to that and it is a lot more stable now (3 days in testing thus far)
[6:28] <lost_soul> so just realize, all psu's are not created equal... if you do experience freezing or reboots... try a different supply
[6:28] <lost_soul> if you can find a 5.1V 2A supply that would be ideal
[6:29] <lost_soul> Do note though that I have a regular model B. The B+ model is supposed to consume less power so you may have no issues at all if you buy that one.
[6:30] <J033> Okay, thank you. Do I need to worry about heatsinks? A starter kit comes with them, but are they required?
[6:30] <lost_soul> J033: no, and actually some people here recommend against using them
[6:30] <clever> lost_soul: why?
[6:32] <lost_soul> clever: I asked the same.. the person said that the glue to hold them on could drip on one of the chips and potentially cause an issue.. We actually got involved in the conversation because I mentioned the heatsinks on the new B+ case (if it actually comes to pass)
[6:32] <clever> ah
[6:32] <clever> sounds like its only an issue if you try to remove them, or the heat-sink snags on something
[6:33] <lost_soul> clever: I think it was in context to heating the glue up to the point it got liquid again.. or dripping it somewhere it shouldn't be during install
[6:33] <J033> lost_soul: Alright, thank you! Now one last thing not really specific to the Pi.. I have been messing around with XBMC on my PC and the only problem I am having is streaming live sports. I can find ESPN, but the quality is not what I'd like it to be. Does anybody successfully stream sports on a TV without horrible quality? Thanks!
[6:34] <lost_soul> clever: if you're interested... this is the link to the case that got us involved in the heatsink discussion https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rpi-b-plus-aluminium-case-by-jatmn
[6:34] <clever> oh, drip, not rip
[6:34] <clever> misread it
[6:36] <lost_soul> J033: I haven't installed any addons as they are somewhat iffy as to whether they will cause issues or not. That being said I can't really answer the question you posed. I can say though that the addon wouldn't look any better on the pi than it would on xbmc
[6:36] <DanDare> thats like, unlikely. the glue is a type of very thin glue film (i got a heatsink with 3M glue film)
[6:36] <DanDare> cant see that melting or drip by any chance
[6:37] <lost_soul> DanDare: no, we were discussing the ole school heatsinks when the guy advised not to use them... the ones on that case are built in
[6:37] <DanDare> though, I think one dont need to worry about heatsinks. I used it because it came with my kit :)
[6:37] <lost_soul> the ones where you buy three heatsinks and glue them to the chips
[6:38] <DanDare> Ah oh ok
[6:38] <J033> lost_soul: Alright, thank you. Does anybody have experience with MashUp on OpenELEC?
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[6:38] <lost_soul> J033: you may wish to ask that in the #openelec channel
[6:39] <lost_soul> it isn't geared solely to the pi.. but you'll find not all that many people in this channel use OE
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[6:39] <lost_soul> wb Dan
[6:40] <DanDare> thanks :)
[6:40] <DanDare> switching to pi xchat
[6:40] <DanDare> and leave it overnight in more of stability test
[6:40] <DanDare> (for wifi network)
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[6:42] <DanDare> installed xfce4 for this time. Not sure what. If just impressions but im finding it faster than LXDE
[6:43] <lost_soul> that is kind of surprising
[6:43] <DanDare> at least, the regular 'apt-get install xfce4' is 300Mb less than 'apt-get install lxde'
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[6:44] <DanDare> from netinst or other minimal setup. raspbian got it own lxde setup anyway
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[6:45] <DanDare> lost_soul, from boot, after lauching xfce4 I got 129Mb used RAM
[6:45] <lost_soul> DanDare: try openbox itself... I guess LXDE is based off from it so you'll likely find it runs better
[6:45] <DanDare> basic xfce4, without xfce4-goodies installed
[6:45] <DanDare> ok, thanks
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[6:46] <lost_soul> no worries.. may as well since it's already installed
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[6:50] <pragmatism> Sweet
[6:50] <pragmatism> Okay, so going to production, about 100 units.
[6:50] <pragmatism> SD cards are okay, right?
[6:50] <pragmatism> How long do these things last?
[6:51] <lost_soul> how long do what things last?
[6:52] <pragmatism> Ha, irssi is slow. SD cards. I'm putting about 100 units in to production soonish, and the SD cards worry me.
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[6:52] <pragmatism> I read/writed ~100 times per minute
[6:53] <pragmatism> write*
[6:53] <lost_soul> that type of question, whether your referring to the pi or to an sdcard... really cannot be answered all that well. If you're referring to the Pi, any hardware that gets abused won't last. The card slot and micro usb's are only made for so many insertions before they may come loose.. etc
[6:53] <pragmatism> I could slow it down to 1-5x per min
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[6:53] <pragmatism> That's not what I mean.
[6:53] <lost_soul> the life of an sd card really depends on how often it is written to and so on
[6:53] <pragmatism> I'm referring to the lift of an SD card
[6:53] <pragmatism> ah, okay
[6:53] <pragmatism> Does anyone maintain benchmarks on SD cards?
[6:54] <lost_soul> if you run memory file systems and seldome write to the card... it could last far longer than someone who writes to the card 500 times a day
[6:54] <pragmatism> I will be writing thousands of times per day :/
[6:54] <pragmatism> Most dead cards tend to recover after being zeroed out a few times
[6:54] <lost_soul> then the card will not last nearly as long as it would for someone with minimal writes
[6:55] <pragmatism> but all require maintanence < 45 days
[6:55] <lost_soul> wondering though, why will you need to write to the card so much?
[6:55] <pragmatism> What else can I use for memory?
[6:55] <pragmatism> data collecting tool. If it can't connect to the internet and upload to a master server, it writes data locally.
[6:55] <DanDare> ir ita not critical data, also if are small chunks of data, better using ramdisk
[6:55] <pragmatism> all data is critica.
[6:56] <lost_soul> you could write to an NFS share
[6:56] <pragmatism> critical*
[6:56] <lost_soul> then once a day or so write it to the card as backup
[6:56] <pragmatism> Nice
[6:56] <pragmatism> Good idea
[6:56] <DanDare> so, using SD is not a good idea anyway
[6:56] <pragmatism> What about a thumb drive?
[6:56] <pragmatism> yeah
[6:56] <pragmatism> smaller is better
[6:57] <DanDare> maybe some attached nechanical disk or ssd disk
[6:57] <pragmatism> Can I get tiny cheap ones? Haha
[6:57] <lost_soul> lets say you have a laptop, like mine, with 8GB memory... I could set aside 512MB of memory to a tmpfs (memory file system) and share it via NFS to my pi... write the hell out of it.. and then sync it to the pi from time to time
[6:57] <lost_soul> that way the major hit doesn't happen to the sdcard
[6:57] <lost_soul> or whatever.. that scenario can be switched up in many ways
[6:57] <pragmatism> Ah, but I have to act as if we've been air-gapped
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[6:57] <pragmatism> 0 network
[6:58] <pragmatism> system must record 100% internally
[6:58] <pragmatism> external spinner isn't a bad idea
[6:58] <pragmatism> just.... gross haha
[6:58] <lost_soul> you have other systems on the network I'm sure
[6:58] <pragmatism> Nope
[6:58] <pragmatism> Again, device is for data gathering
[6:59] <pragmatism> (environmental data gathering haha)
[6:59] <pragmatism> so if its cell chip dies or something
[6:59] <pragmatism> it needs to keep collecting data at the same frequency
[6:59] <pragmatism> and my Sd cards keep dying
[6:59] <lost_soul> that just seems odd to me man.. a network with one $35 system on it... seems hardly worth spending $35-45 a month for internet service for such a machine
[6:59] <pragmatism> external HDD words
[6:59] <pragmatism> Oh oh
[7:00] <pragmatism> No, it's expected to by syncing over wifi
[7:00] <pragmatism> but if that network drops off, it might be a while until it can be serviced
[7:00] <pragmatism> and I still want the data
[7:00] <pragmatism> my bad, obviously didn't exlpain that well
[7:01] <lost_soul> think I'm still missing something
[7:01] <pragmatism> Okay, let me start over:
[7:01] <lost_soul> but anyways, those are your options for the most part
[7:01] <lost_soul> if you have to write constantly.. just realize the cards won't last as long as they could
[7:01] <pragmatism> Pi based temperature and humidity sensor that sits outside someones house. usually reports it's data over their wifi every few seconds
[7:01] <pragmatism> if the wifi goes down, still needs to save all metrics
[7:02] <pragmatism> sd cards fail on writes after about 45 days, so I eed a better data solution if the internet isn't avaialble
[7:02] <pragmatism> what should I use?
[7:02] <lost_soul> ah, so this isn't your network
[7:02] <pragmatism> It's a volunteers network, so we have access credentials
[7:03] <lost_soul> you could write to a usb pendrive... cheaper than sdcards typically
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[7:03] <pragmatism> just in past experience these networks aren't that reliable
[7:03] <lost_soul> and faster
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[7:03] <pragmatism> okay
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[7:03] <DanDare> do you really Breda temp reads every minute orquestra second?
[7:04] <pragmatism> testing changes in rock heat and water emission from rock cover types
[7:04] <pragmatism> so yeag
[7:04] <DanDare> you can barragem reading values, lets say 15 minutes time lapse
[7:04] <pragmatism> hahahaha
[7:04] <lost_soul> pragmatism: right, I don't care if it is your network or not... but it plays a role in that if it was your network and other systems existed on it you could mount a network share which could update even if the wifi went down (provided it is hard wired in to their network)
[7:04] <DanDare> *average
[7:04] <pragmatism> I guess somethign could throw up an ad-hoc network
[7:04] <pragmatism> DanDare: specifics are important.
[7:04] <DanDare> damn i hate spell check :p
[7:05] <pragmatism> lost_soul: not a bad idea, just more effort to set up
[7:05] <lost_soul> for simplicity sakes.. I would just use a usb pendrive if i were you
[7:05] <pragmatism> lost_soul: word
[7:09] <pragmatism> Have you either burnt out a Pi yet? How long do they last?
[7:09] <lost_soul> I haven't, no
[7:10] <lost_soul> as I said I would assume it is like most electronics and will last for a very long time provided it is not abused.
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[7:10] <pragmatism> Cool
[7:10] <lost_soul> I've been using mine for over 2 years now
[7:11] <pragmatism> I honetly have so much trouble gauging this stuff (software engineer)
[7:11] <lost_soul> but some ppl in here still use model A's
[7:11] <pragmatism> never know how long to trust itt
[7:11] <pragmatism> haha some of my friends still play on original gameboys.
[7:12] <lost_soul> just be careful plugging stuff in and you should be fine.. it's also best to keep the number of times you plug stuff in down as much as possible too
[7:12] <pragmatism> Why is that?
[7:12] <pragmatism> does energizing a circuit damage it?
[7:13] <pragmatism> That might be one of my problems, I'm hugely plug and play: I swap breadboards and software to the same Pi(s) all weekend
[7:14] <lost_soul> when you plug something in you exhert force on it.. if it's plugged in 10,000 times it is more likely to fail then someone who plugged it in 100 times
[7:14] <pragmatism> Ah, okay.
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[7:14] <lost_soul> I'm sure you've heard of barral connectors in laptops coming loose and such
[7:14] <pragmatism> I'm not too worried about taht.
[7:14] <lost_soul> same basic pricipal applies
[7:14] <pragmatism> of course, and a valuable point.
[7:15] <pragmatism> hmm
[7:15] <pragmatism> what's the smallest for factor of spinning disk available?
[7:15] <lost_soul> one person in here mentioned just needing to replace the sdcard slot
[7:15] <pragmatism> form factor
[7:15] <lost_soul> so that is one point of failure I know exits
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[7:16] <lost_soul> spinning disk.. 2.5" laptop drive
[7:16] <pragmatism> kk
[7:16] <pragmatism> pretty norm
[7:16] <lost_soul> and quite cheap
[7:16] <pragmatism> ugh
[7:16] <pragmatism> just for backup....
[7:16] <pragmatism> obnoxious.
[7:17] <pragmatism> At least I have direction. THanks lost_soul
[7:17] <lost_soul> I would try to get it hard wired if at all possible.. maybe bury a wire if it goes out to greenhouse or garden
[7:17] <pragmatism> DanDare: gonna try some easier load tests and see what I get, thanks to.
[7:18] <lost_soul> np, enjoy the project
[7:18] <pragmatism> lost_soul: power is hard wired.
[7:18] <pragmatism> that's all :/
[7:18] <DanDare> np. good luck
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[7:18] <pragmatism> wish I could demand eth ha
[7:18] <pragmatism> peace
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[7:27] <tpjsm> Do relay boards come with native electrical isolation?
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[7:28] <tpjsm> I want to control all my switches at home with a Pi and Arduino Combo and I understand that relays should be isolated using an optocoupler, a transistor and a relay. There are many relay boards, Wifi relay boards, RF relay boards available do they come with electrically isolated pins?
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[7:31] <DanDare> tpjsm_they are commonly isolated but better ask the vendor or take a look on board schematics
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[7:48] <RahulAN> hii all
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[7:55] <root_> hii all
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[8:10] <RoBo_V> hey techTalkers, Morning !
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[8:21] <neutrino> morning RoBo_V !
[8:21] <RoBo_V> hey neutrino how you doing ?
[8:22] <neutrino> im fine ;
[8:22] <neutrino> what about you ? anything interesting with your pi lately ?
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[8:35] <RoBo_V> neutrino: yes actually haha
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[8:35] <benny-> good morning ppl \o/
[8:35] <RoBo_V> was having 2gb uSD card tried arch Linux with LXDE desktop mouse and keyboard not detecting in GUI, 8 gb card (in transit)
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[8:37] <RoBo_V> as raspbian is more than 2GB, one person here told about minimal raspbian but haven't tried it
[8:37] <RoBo_V> hey benny- how you doing bud
[8:39] <benny-> thats another topic ;) how about you?
[8:40] <RoBo_V> I'm good benny-, which another topic xD
[8:41] <benny-> chronic illnes... at least something in my life is consistent :>
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[8:42] <neutrino> RoBo_V: do oyou really need a gui ? what do you do with your pi ?
[8:43] <RoBo_V> neutrion: I'm not much good with command line as of now
[8:44] <RoBo_V> I'm thinking of 24/7 torrent download centre xD
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[8:45] <neutrino> RoBo_V: ha ha okay ; although that could be easily done via command line :)
[8:46] <RoBo_V> I'm sure it is
[8:46] <RoBo_V> neutrino: which distro you using ?
[8:47] <RoBo_V> benny-: oh what causing it ?
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[8:51] <benny-> many things... (mental stuff)
[8:51] <lost_soul> RoBo_V: you may want to look in to rtorrent if you haven't already
[8:51] <benny-> well, here for diversion, so lets talk about hard/software ;)
[8:54] <RoBo_V> lost_soul: i.e interesting we can control the command line of RPi remotely and tune it accordingly
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[8:54] <RoBo_V> benny-: sure thing
[8:56] <lost_soul> RoBo_V: err, I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. The RPi can be controlled via SSH of course.. rtorrent can be controlled via the interface or the rtorrent.rc file
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[8:56] <lost_soul> with rtorrent and either tmux or screen I think you'll find you can do what you are wanting to do
[8:56] <benny-> i'm sure there are torrent clients with webgui
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[8:57] <RoBo_V> Actually I just need control over my RPI remotely (n/w ofcourse) and can check status and queue up more torrent that's it...
[8:57] <lost_soul> their are, but why add a web server to a machine you only want to act as a torrent client?
[8:58] <benny-> for comfort :>
[8:58] <RoBo_V> benny-: webgui like ?
[8:58] <benny-> why struggle with console, if you can have a nice webgui? :)
[8:58] <lost_soul> honestly I wouldn't find comfort in it
[8:58] <lost_soul> transmission has a webgui though I believe
[8:59] <benny-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients
[8:59] <neutrino> RoBo_V: im using arch ; sorry for late reply :P
[9:00] <lost_soul> I wouldn't say opening an ssh session and typing rtorrent is all that complex really, but perhaps I'm wrong
[9:01] <lost_soul> anyways.. bed time for me, g'night everyone
[9:01] <RoBo_V> neutrino: Yes I have that one installed may b I can try setting up rtorrent in it as lost_soul talk about
[9:01] <neutrino> lost_soul: good night !
[9:01] <RoBo_V> good night lost_soul
[9:02] <neutrino> yup , web_gui would definetly be better than starting X and a DE on top of that
[9:02] <RoBo_V> neutrino: how can delete LXDE from it
[9:02] <neutrino> pacman -Rs lxde
[9:02] <neutrino> sudo ofcourse
[9:03] <RoBo_V> sudo I have to installed I think it didn't detect
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[9:03] <neutrino> umm then how did you isntall ?
[9:03] <neutrino> through root ?
[9:04] <neutrino> then you can uninstall from root as well
[9:06] <RoBo_V> neutrino: LXDE I installed by just following this http://www.raspberrypi.org/arch-linux-arm-available-for-download/
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[9:07] <neutrino> um yeah so you did do it as root
[9:08] <RoBo_V> yes, at boot they asked for u/n and pwd which was 'root'
[9:08] <neutrino> run pacman -Rs lxde
[9:08] <RoBo_V> actually RPi is not setted up in my office , as there is no HDMI VGA converter (in transit) lol
[9:09] <RoBo_V> it is at home, so I note down commands and execute when back home
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[9:10] <neutrino> cool !
[9:10] <neutrino> !! you got an HDMI- vga convertor ?!
[9:10] <neutrino> that must have cost more than half the pi's price
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[9:11] <RoBo_V> haha, you right actually but I will order it from china until then I use it at home server.
[9:11] <neutrino> why dont you use RCA itself ?
[9:12] <RoBo_V> B+ don't have it
[9:13] <neutrino> ah okay ; it does actually
[9:13] <RoBo_V> huh ?
[9:13] <neutrino> B+ has RCA in the soundjack connector itself
[9:14] <benny-> it has composite video build in the 3,5mm jack
[9:14] <RoBo_V> oh Okkk
[9:14] <benny-> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/
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[9:16] <RoBo_V> gotcha
[9:17] <RoBo_V> but once everything stetted up we don't need monitor, keyboard, mouse...
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[9:18] <RoBo_V> right ?
[9:18] <neutrino> nope .. you dont even need one to get started
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[9:22] <RoBo_V> Really ? How neutrino
[9:22] <benny-> ssh console :>
[9:23] <benny-> but monitor is allways good in the beginning, to see if the pi boots, or where it hangs
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[9:24] <nid0> its enabled by default, when using raspbian
[9:25] <RoBo_V> nid0: arch linux
[9:25] <nid0> also enabled by default
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[9:28] <attley> The default raspbian settings should be as you mentioned - automatically via dhcp. Have you done the initial (raspi-config) setup?
[9:30] <neutrino> yeah arch has it enabled by default too
[9:31] <RoBo_V> Oh ok
[9:31] <neutrino> arch on the pi is so much more configured than the arch on x86
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[9:31] <RoBo_V> neutrino: any beginner guide with SSH console ?
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[9:32] <neutrino> hmm when running headless , the initial problem you will face is finding the ip of the pi
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[9:32] <neutrino> either configure a static ip by writing to some files on the sdcard or a bettwer method is to run nmap from your laptop/pc
[9:33] <RoBo_V> At home I can hook it up to LED monitor
[9:33] <RoBo_V> no prob
[9:33] <neutrino> ah nice
[9:33] <benny-> or take a look in your routers device list
[9:33] <neutrino> this LED monitor has HDMI ?
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[9:33] <benny-> it should list the pi at dhcp settings
[9:33] <benny-> depending on router model
[9:34] <RoBo_V> It has DVI and VGA and I have DVI-HDMI converter so no problem at home
[9:34] <RoBo_V> office one has only VGA :(
[9:34] <neutrino> RoBo_V: yeah those are pretty cheap DVI-HDMi is pin compatible
[9:35] <RoBo_V> neutrino: yes it is working last night but seeing command line only and tried to install GUI quickly hahaha
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[9:36] <RoBo_V> but now You make me think I should keep it command line only and set up SSH and web torrent client (as benny- suggesting)
[9:37] <benny-> why not both? try to get some working torrent client, and prepare another sd card for desktop use
[9:37] <benny-> so you could use one card for "productive" use, and one to learn linux stuff
[9:39] <RoBo_V> benny-: I didn't get you, You mean install Linux on desktop too ?
[9:39] <benny-> no, on another sdcard
[9:39] <benny-> so you could use one card for learning, and the other for torrent stuff
[9:39] <neutrino> RoBo_V: yes thats a good idea ;
[9:39] <benny-> but you could also install linux on a virtual machine on your desktop
[9:40] <neutrino> or dual boot
[9:40] <neutrino> or single boot :P
[9:40] <RoBo_V> benny-: yes virtual box
[9:40] <benny-> that's more advanced^^
[9:40] <benny-> would suggest vm for beginners, so they don't have to bother with bootloader stuff
[9:40] <benny-> and it couldn't damage the main os
[9:41] <RoBo_V> You know what I have dual boot windows 8.1 and fedora (was almost forget that I have it installed bcoz never used it much) hahaha
[9:41] <benny-> yea thats a problem with dualboot^^
[9:41] <benny-> if you loose patience, just take snapshot of vm and resume later :)
[9:42] <benny-> something that dualboot can't afford
[9:42] <RoBo_V> I see benny- that SD card idea on dekstop seems like good one
[9:43] <benny-> sdcard was mentioned for pi
[9:43] <benny-> as "hardware dualboot" :D
[9:44] <RoBo_V> you said prepare another S card for desktop use xD
[9:44] <RoBo_V> SD*
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[9:45] <benny-> was meant to install a linux with Desktop, so you can use pi with mouse+keyboard+monitor
[9:45] <benny-> and the other sdcard as headless, with torrent stuff only
[9:46] <RoBo_V> oh ok
[9:46] <RoBo_V> on desktop like with VM as you suggesting
[9:46] <RoBo_V> right
[9:46] <RoBo_V> ?
[9:46] <benny-> yes
[9:48] <benny-> i have one sdcard to test stuff out, and if it works i can deploy it to another sdcard which is for serious use :D
[9:48] <benny-> so when i damage my test system, i still have the working 2nd sdcard :)
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[9:54] <RoBo_V> benny-: I see and where is 1st sdcard is hooked up ?
[9:55] <benny-> i change when i want to test stuff
[9:55] <benny-> they aren't connected at the same time
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[9:57] <RoBo_V> alright !
[9:59] <RoBo_V> benny-: this bitnet looks like web client (Wikipedia link you gave)
[10:00] <RoBo_V> web bases torrent client
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[10:01] <benny-> i've never used torrent, so you might also want to google the client name + raspberry and may find some tutorials how to setup it
[10:03] <RoBo_V> Yes I will ty benny-
[10:03] <RoBo_V> btw what your RPi doing for now ?
[10:04] <benny-> laying around most time :>
[10:04] <benny-> porting some software to armv6 arch, so this is my test "machine"
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[10:06] <RoBo_V> I see
[10:06] <RoBo_V> neutrino: what about you, where your RPi hooked up ?
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[10:07] <benny-> have a 10" screen laying around from an old project, which i may put in a frame together with the pi, as mediaplayer/manual display for garage
[10:07] <benny-> but that has no big priority
[10:09] <neutrino> im trying some gpgpu on the pi
[10:09] <neutrino> RoBo_V:
[10:09] <RoBo_V> gpgpu ?
[10:10] <neutrino> so far been working with a basic assembler written from a blog called rpi-playground
[10:10] <RoBo_V> what's that
[10:10] <neutrino> using the rpi gpu fro general purpose computing
[10:10] <benny-> is it that fast?
[10:10] <RoBo_V> I see, sounds cool
[10:11] <neutrino> benny-: not as powerfull as a PC gpu; but you can do some calculations much faster
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[10:12] <RoBo_V> Guys like arc Linux when extracted it was around 1.82 GB so did it occupied full 2GB SD card or what ?
[10:12] <benny-> is it an image?
[10:13] <RoBo_V> Yes it was in zip around 200MB when extracted got img around 1,82Gb which I wrote to SD card via win32 disk imager
[10:13] <benny-> then you should still have some free space on the card
[10:14] <neutrino> yes you will have quite a bit of free space on the card
[10:14] <RoBo_V> but what im asking is did the SD is completely occupied by Arch Linux
[10:14] <benny-> image contains free space, too
[10:14] <RoBo_V> bcoz I left with 30-50 mb I guess
[10:14] <RoBo_V> but when I was installing LXDE and anther stuff it was much more than 30-50 MB but it was going pretty well
[10:14] <neutrino> by default whenever you plug in a formated 2gb sdcard it will show you about 1.82 gb of space only
[10:15] <RoBo_V> Yes I know
[10:15] <neutrino> the disk image creates a partition for 2gb
[10:15] <RoBo_V> so I that must be the thing like "image also has free space"
[10:15] <neutrino> yes
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[10:19] <RoBo_V> neutrino: gpgpu like
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[10:24] <neutrino> for now im just multipying matrices and basic stuff like that
[10:24] <neutrino> lets see ;
[10:25] <neutrino> not sure what i exaclty want to do iwth it ; may be a javascript engine if i have the patience and time
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[10:27] <RoBo_V> neutrino: I see, ok
[10:28] <RoBo_V> May be later, I will hook mine as security surveillance
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[10:35] <attley> Corrupted my raspbian SD card again. Switched to installation where /var is mounted to ramdisk with unionfs-fuse and / as read only. I have mounted / as rw onely when needed to install software. So far so good...
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[10:40] <RoBo_V> attley: how get corrupted
[10:41] <attley> I guess its because sudden power blackouts
[10:42] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ get yourself a battery backup system
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> attley, you might as well remove rsyslog if /var is in a ramdisk.
[10:43] <attley> gordonDrogon: true
[10:43] <gordonDrogon> I don't run /var/ in a ramdisk, but I do remove rsyslog.
[10:43] <attley> Battery backup would be a cool solution
[10:43] <gordonDrogon> I put /tmp/ in a ramdisk though - see /etc/default/tmpfs
[10:43] <attley> ok
[10:44] <RoBo_V> attley: where from ?
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> there are a few solutions.
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> e.g. http://www.pi-supply.com/product/pi-ups-uninterrupted-power-supply-raspberry-pi/
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> same cost as a I though...
[10:48] <RoBo_V> seems expensive, just grab cheap batteries from ebay and hook them together in pack and you have Pi UPS.
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[10:49] <gordonDrogon> well... you want good rechargable batteries - and a smart charger - and an SMPS type power supply... then it all starts to get expensive..
[10:51] <gordonDrogon> I think - if I needed it - I'd be tempted to use a supercap and a simple circuit to detect the incoming 5v vanishing - then have that send a signal to the Pi via GPIO to tell it to shutdown now ... the supercap keeping it going for just enough time to make sure ...
[10:51] <benny-> i read about some supercap usv a few days ago
[10:52] <RoBo_V> gordonDrogon: yup sounds good
[10:52] <benny-> http://juice4halt.com/
[10:52] <gordonDrogon> not sure if they're stay at 5v for long enough though - they start to drop voltage right away - it would need to be sized appropriately.
[10:53] <RoBo_V> this would be good for 24/7 plug in the power and also connect battery when blackout switch to battery when back switch to Supply.
[10:53] <gordonDrogon> benny-, right - that's the thing - but they have an SMPS PSU attached too - presumably to keep it at 5v for long enough...
[10:54] <evil_dan2wik> gordonDrogon, why not a cheap lipo battery?
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> evil_dan2wik, I don't know - why not?
[10:55] <gordonDrogon> too many solutions...
[10:55] <evil_dan2wik> An 80mah 20S lipo would give plenty of time to shut down.
[10:55] <gordonDrogon> so who knows what's right for everyone.
[10:55] <gordonDrogon> a LiPo might need a bit more care when charging I suspect...
[10:55] <RoBo_V> why Lipo , why not NiCD or NiMH xD
[10:55] <evil_dan2wik> Get a small charge regulator.
[10:55] <RoBo_V> gordonDrogon: we should only know what right for US haha
[10:55] <evil_dan2wik> gordonDrogon, most of the smaller ones have protection boards.
[10:56] <evil_dan2wik> but, 80mah, at 800ma draw for 6 minutes is plenty of time.
[10:56] <benny-> ^^
[10:56] <benny-> i would use battery, too
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> well, there's your million dollar project :)
[10:57] <RoBo_V> benny-: what would you prefer 24/7 supply and battery setup or auto shutdown when power off ?
[10:57] <benny-> or just use some 5V powerbank which are designed for smartphones
[10:57] <benny-> they are cheap and have charge control
[10:57] <benny-> RoBo_V, depends on your use case
[10:58] <evil_dan2wik> these batteries can be bought for around $5-10 each with a protection board so you can just leave it connected to a 5v supply without having to worry about overcharging.
[10:59] <benny-> http://www.ebay.com/itm/121370854483
[10:59] <benny-> something like that would do the job
[10:59] <benny-> for ~3h
[10:59] <RoBo_V> evil_dan2wik: that would be best when supply came charge battery and when supply off batter backup.
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[11:00] <evil_dan2wik> benny-, that rating is a lie btw.
[11:01] <benny-> which? the capacity?
[11:01] <neutrino> the odroid W has a pretty cool solution though adding the lipo chargin unit on board
[11:01] <evil_dan2wik> They have 1100mah batteries inside them.
[11:01] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
[11:01] <benny-> was just the cheapest one i could find :> for 10$ you should find something reliable
[11:01] <benny-> but 1,1Ah is still enough for 1h pi ;)
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[11:03] <neutrino> i think having a full fledged ups would not be a bad idea ;you can keep your router plugged in too
[11:04] <evil_dan2wik> My router has a 12 volt supply, no need for a full router, just an SLA battery and charger.
[11:04] <evil_dan2wik> full UPS*
[11:04] <neutrino> you'd get a full UPs for 30 USD over here
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[11:05] <evil_dan2wik> neutrino, specs?
[11:06] <gordonDrogon> I run Pi's via battery occasionally, but I have one of those big USB charger devices. (Anker 15Ah in my case). It runs a Pi B/2 for just under 24 hours and a B+ for about 36.
[11:07] <gordonDrogon> I can charge it at the same time as it's being used, so technically it's a big UPS in that respect, but it's ... big! (and was �36 IIRC)
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[11:09] <dunz0r> Are there any "free" USB ports on the GPIOs of a B+?
[11:10] <dunz0r> Don't want to connect cables going from the "outside" to the inside of my build.
[11:10] <SpeedEvil> dunz0r: no
[11:10] <shiftplusone> could desolder one of the connectors if you want to keep things pretty
[11:11] <shiftplusone> or solder on extra wires
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[11:11] <dunz0r> shiftplusone: That's what I'm considering. Soldering on a powered USB-hub or something for the internal connections.
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[11:12] <dunz0r> Just need to find a 2-cell ~5000mAh lithium ion battery pack first though.
[11:12] <evil_dan2wik> dunz0r, hobbyking is cheapest usually.
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[11:13] <dunz0r> evil_dan2wik: Yeah. I've bought all my lipos for my robots from there.
[11:14] <dunz0r> Hmm... they only seem to stock lipolys
[11:14] <evil_dan2wik> I bought a 4s 4200mah pack from ebay and it came with a total capacity of 2700mah and a weak cell.
[11:14] <dunz0r> evil_dan2wik: Hehe, I did that once too :)
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[11:15] <dunz0r> 2S 5000mAh. Capacity of 3100mAh.
[11:15] <dunz0r> But it was cheap, so I didn't care.
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[11:15] <evil_dan2wik> Ebay is not cheap compared to some other places.
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[11:25] <neutrino> evil_dan2wik: 600 VA
[11:26] <neutrino> 37 usd
[11:26] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[11:26] <neutrino> 360 watts
[11:26] * dunz0r built a 5V switching regulator which can deliver 3A yesterday
[11:26] <neutrino> its by APC
[11:26] <neutrino> dunz0r: cool !
[11:27] <dunz0r> Unfortunately it's too big to fit in my case in it's current form :(
[11:27] <neutrino> linear ?
[11:27] <evil_dan2wik> I can just buy one.
[11:27] <neutrino> or switiching ?
[11:27] <dunz0r> neutrino: No, switching. LM2576
[11:27] <dunz0r> evil_dan2wik: I had the components at home anyway, thought it was time to finally put it together
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[11:27] <neutrino> ha ha .. linear at 3amps will require liquid nitrogen
[11:27] <evil_dan2wik> neutrino, not really.
[11:27] * neutrino is exagerating ofcourse
[11:28] <dunz0r> Depends on your input voltage, but yeah, it'd get pretty hot :)
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[11:28] <dunz0r> A linear at just 1A is hot as hell.
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[11:28] <evil_dan2wik> I can pump 3 amps @ 6v through a 5v regulator and still put my finger on it.
[11:29] <evil_dan2wik> Also, I found out that if the voltage at the output pin is higher than the regulator's marked voltage, it will try to burn it of anyway.
[11:29] <evil_dan2wik> But it usually ends in magic smoke or thermal protection.
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[11:30] <neutrino> how about powerbanks anyone using them here for the pi ?
[11:31] <dunz0r> neutrino: Yeah, I power mine with a 5000mAh GP Powerbank from time to time.
[11:32] <dunz0r> But it can't deliver enough current to drive the Model Ms controller, the Pi and my trackball unfortunately.
[11:32] <neutrino> cool ..
[11:32] * dunz0r suspects that the Model M is the culprit.
[11:32] <dunz0r> It draws something like 150mA on idle...
[11:33] <neutrino> 150 is too much !>
[11:33] <neutrino> ?
[11:33] <dunz0r> Yeah. It's a lot for a keyboard.
[11:33] <evil_dan2wik> I use a 600mah lipo with a buckboost for the USB 5v.
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[11:34] <dunz0r> Buck-boosts are an idea... As long as I can find one that can deliver enough amps.
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[11:34] <dunz0r> Buck boosts aren't as effective as a good linear regulator though.
[11:34] <dunz0r> I think I can get ~70% from my LM2576\
[11:35] <neutrino> buckboosts give a regulated o/p ?
[11:35] <dunz0r> neutrino: Yeah
[11:36] <neutrino> i made a boost with an inductor an transitor once ; the o/p was 80 volts but would come down to 5 volts or so at 300 mah
[11:36] <evil_dan2wik> dunz0r, most buckboosts at 3A I have seen are 90% efficient.
[11:36] <dunz0r> 90% huh? That's very high.
[11:36] <dunz0r> evil_dan2wik: any datasheets to share?
[11:37] <evil_dan2wik> ebay.
[11:37] <silenius> adafruit has the boost 500 and boost 1k, those are decent engineered, maybe copy them
[11:37] <dunz0r> Ti has some nice chips, like the TSP63020. I think I'll sample some.
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[11:43] <neutrino> dunz0r: TI samples FTW
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[11:51] <dunz0r> Most companies provide free samples actually. I've gotten from Atmel, Ti, ST and a few others.
[11:53] * shiftplusone adds microchip to the list
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[11:57] <jaggz-l> can i do a new rasbian setup headless?
[11:58] <jaggz-l> i cant seem to find it on my network
[11:58] <neutrino> dunz0r: you need an institute or company email id
[11:58] <neutrino> right?
[11:58] <ShorTie> Yes you should be able, if not wifi'd
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[11:58] <jaggz-l> wifi usb
[11:58] <neutrino> dunz0r: what did you sample from Atmel ?
[11:58] <ShorTie> nop then most likely
[11:59] <neutrino> i couldnt find any microcontrollers in the sample program
[11:59] <dunz0r> neutrino: Some Atmega328s and some Attinys.
[11:59] <neutrino> :O
[12:00] <jaggz-l> tx
[12:00] <neutrino> is 328 a 28 pin ic ?
[12:00] <dunz0r> neutrino: Mhm.
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[12:00] <dunz0r> neutrino: If you go to the product search page, you can press the little "S" icon next to an item and it'll add it to your sample cart
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[12:52] <RahulAN> Hii al
[12:52] <attley> hi
[12:53] <RahulAN> I compiled lipi toolkit with my pi. it is working fine
[12:53] <RahulAN> but as i am trying to give some values in my native language it is printing some blocks.
[12:54] <RahulAN> how to make my native language compatible with raspbian?
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[13:02] <RaTTuS|BIG> sudo raspi-config
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[15:33] <gschanuel> hello folks
[15:33] <gschanuel> anyone here use raspi with openwrt?
[15:33] <gschanuel> i tried to install 12.09 but it just do not boot
[15:34] <gschanuel> I also tried the 14.07-rc2. It booted but was freezing on wifi settings, that's why I decided to use the stable version
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[15:38] <Technicus> Hello I am trying to get a Raspberry Pi to connect to a router with a static IP address followin: < http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=31003 >. It was working yesterday, but today not. It will connect to the router but it is not able to find the internet. I can connect through ethernet to my laptop which is wirelessly connected to the router. Maybe the router changed?
[15:38] <Technicus> How can I fix this?
[15:39] <Technicus> Also if I set it to dynamic IP address with the wireless, how can I find it on the network with nmap?
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[15:47] <clever> Technicus: i would use avahi to find it
[15:47] <clever> once avahi is setup, you can just ssh pi.local and it works
[15:47] <clever> no need to know what ip it has today
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[15:50] <Technicus> That looks awesome!
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[15:51] <clever> for the pi end, its as simple as apt-get install avahi-something
[15:51] <clever> and for the other end, it depends on your os, ubuntu/debian is the same
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[15:53] <neutrino> Technicus: if you connect your pi and lappy to same router they will have the same subnet
[15:54] <neutrino> so suppose your laptops ip is
[15:54] <neutrino> 192.168.20.34
[15:54] <neutrino> just nmap 192.168.20\*
[15:54] <neutrino> just nmap 192.168.20.\*
[15:54] <neutrino> \ depends on how your interpretter treats globing
[15:55] <clever> i would use the other syntax
[15:55] <clever> nmap 192.168.20.0/24
[15:55] <clever> that means the first 24 bits must match, and the last 8 bits can be anything
[15:55] <clever> but its still faster to just open the router status and look in the dhcp client list
[15:56] <clever> or use avahi
[15:56] <Technicus> Now that I have avahi installed on the pi, do I need it installed on my laptop?
[15:56] <clever> Technicus: yep
[15:56] <clever> Technicus: what OS does the laptop run?
[15:56] <Technicus> Arch
[15:57] <clever> check its package manager for the same package
[15:57] <Technicus> I have it installed, now.
[15:57] <clever> and what is the pi hostname set to?
[15:58] <neutrino> nmap doesnt say anything ?
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[15:58] <Technicus> ShopCam-16
[15:59] <clever> try doing ping ShopCam-16.local
[15:59] <clever> on the arch laptop
[15:59] <Technicus> Failed to resolve "192.168.1*".
[15:59] <clever> theres a dot missing
[16:00] <Technicus> where?
[16:00] <neutrino> does it have a dynamic ip now ?
[16:00] <clever> Technicus: look at the 2nd command neutrino typed
[16:00] <Technicus> uggg . . . I am starting to get lost
[16:00] <clever> try doing ping ShopCam-16.local
[16:00] <neutrino> take a deep breath , relax ...
[16:01] <neutrino> there are three ways to do it
[16:01] <neutrino> one is as clever is describing
[16:01] <neutrino> second one to open the webgui interface of your router and see connected devices
[16:01] <neutrino> and third is the nmap method
[16:01] <clever> avahi is the most automatic and 'just work' one, it lets you find it on any network, friendly or not
[16:02] <clever> the webgui wont work if you lack the router pw
[16:02] <neutrino> true ^
[16:03] <neutrino> ive never used avahi before so i really dont know situations where this "cant resolve " thing could arise
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[16:03] <clever> neutrino: that was an nmap error, he ran your typo
[16:04] <neutrino> lol
[16:04] <neutrino> oh yeah now i see it
[16:04] <neutrino> no dot after 1
[16:04] <clever> yep
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[16:08] <neutrino> is this channel logged by the way ?
[16:08] <ppq> yes
[16:08] <ppq> http://srv.datagutt1.com
[16:08] <chris_99> and by NSA (tm)
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[16:09] <ppq> that is a fine read-only web irc client btw ;p
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[18:12] <timmmaaaayyy> if my wireless flakes out for a minute (or i reboot the AP), my wireless pi seems to not want to rejoin automatically. is there a smart way to fix this? i was thinking cron job to up/down the interface every x minutes, but that seems pretty silly
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[18:18] <shiftplusone> wicd seems to reconnect, but I'm not 100%sure.
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[18:21] <chunkyhead> is it possible to use rpi as a dedicated screen recorder for another system?
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[18:22] <chunkyhead> like my computer is pretty low on specs to play a game, forget play a game and record it.. is it possible for the computer to use RPi to distribute work or something?
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[18:27] <shiftplusone> not in any useful way, chunkyhead
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[18:31] <ShorTie> maybe if you could find a usb-hdmi input and play it thru the pi, would that work ??
[18:33] <chunkyhead> it's a laptop
[18:33] <ShorTie> well, your really complacating things, lol.
[18:34] <chunkyhead> i was just wondering if it could be put to some use
[18:34] <chunkyhead> anyway, thanks for your suggestins
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[18:36] <ShorTie> i'm full of idea's, problem is 99.99% of them aren't worth a poo...
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[18:41] <ShorTie> oh man, so much for windmills, http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/11/wind-turbine-infrasound-may-be-making-thousands-sick-in-uk-us/
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[18:49] <gordonDrogon> scaremongering...
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[18:53] <ShorTie> i don't know, but it does make some sense to me
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[18:53] <gordonDrogon> lookup Bristol Hum sometime...
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[18:58] <ShorTie> so that says it's like posiblely true, but a very low % of peeps affected by it .. :/~
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[19:03] <gordonDrogon> I used to hear it - sometimes.
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[19:20] <SpeedEvil> What's the cheapest 32G microSD anyones gotten that actually works?
[19:20] <SpeedEvil> I have real doubts at ones for a fiver
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[19:21] <timmmaaaayyy> is there a way to tell the pi to automatically reconnect to wifi if it drops? i reboot my AP and the pi will not reconnect until i manually reboot it (no keyboard access to restart networking)
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[19:23] <gordonDrogon> mine auto-reconnect OK.
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> do you have auto wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> or are you using some whacky "network mangler"?
[19:23] <timmmaaaayyy> yes, but i'm not using wpa-supplicant. someone in another channel mentioned that wpa-supplicant is how you do this
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> I use wpa-supplicant.
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[19:26] * gordonDrogon boots a Pi with Wi-Fi to test ...
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> yup. boots fine.
[19:27] <mikroskeem> 19:18 < mikroskeem> Hi i've got problem. How can i use SPI flash on Linux? Not with some testprograms, I mean like it's accessable on /dev/mtd*
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[19:28] <mikroskeem> i've googled much but no result :/
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[19:29] <mikroskeem> i know that linux based routers make spi flash accessible on /dev/mtd*
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[19:36] <gordonDrogon> never knew such a thing existed..
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[19:47] <mikroskeem> Lol now i realized that my rpi doesn't support mtd devices
[19:47] <mikroskeem> recompile time
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[20:02] <Technicus> how do I install python twisted on a raspbian?
[20:03] <mikroskeem> Technicus: sudo pip install twisted
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[20:03] <mikroskeem> or sudo pip3 install twisted
[20:03] <mikroskeem> depends what version of python you use
[20:05] <Technicus> mikroskeem: I am trying to run: < https://gist.github.com/habnabit/5823693 > which requires twisted and a more recent version of python. Not sure what version though.
[20:06] <mikroskeem> Technicus: python 2.x seems
[20:06] <mikroskeem> so "sudo pip install twisted" should do on raspbian
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[20:12] <Technicus> mikroskeem: the result is: "twisted/runner/portmap.c:10:20: fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory"
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[20:41] <Technicus> How can I get twisted to work on raspbian
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[20:44] <neutrino> isnt it a python lib ?
[20:44] <neutrino> pip install dont wokr ?
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[20:47] <neutrino> Technicus: i think you need to install some more packages for it to compile twisted
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[20:47] <neutrino> python.h is a python api to export C functions to python
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[20:51] <HoloPed> hey all
[20:51] <neutrino> Hello
[20:52] <neutrino> HoloPed: hello
[20:52] <HoloPed> I'm looking for a python dev env that is suitable for kids, running on the Pi
[20:52] <neutrino> Idle comes with raspbian by default i think
[20:52] <HoloPed> yes
[20:52] <neutrino> not good enough ?
[20:52] <HoloPed> but idle is kinda... horrible
[20:52] <neutrino> ahh ..
[20:52] <HoloPed> maybe something nicer ?
[20:53] <neutrino> never used IDLE or any other editor , good old vim and plugins
[20:53] <neutrino> i think gedit has a nice plugin for python
[20:53] <neutrino> to indent and syntax highlite
[20:54] <neutrino> HoloPed: how old are these kids ?
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[20:54] <HoloPed> grade 6 ish
[20:54] <HoloPed> 4-6
[20:55] <HoloPed> so age is 10-12
[20:55] <neutrino> so aroudn 10 to 13 ?
[20:55] <neutrino> okay
[20:55] <neutrino> gedit is one option
[20:55] <HoloPed> yes - something that can ident and syntax coloring
[20:55] <HoloPed> i'll look into it, thanks
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[20:57] <HoloPed> any other options ?
[20:58] <neutrino> if they were a little older you could introduce vim or emacs ; just to pique their interest into more powerfull editors ; not all will like it there just might be one or two who will like it
[21:00] <neutrino> theres Geany and some more editors/IDE out there
[21:01] <lost_soul> HoloPed: have you looked at geany?
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[21:02] <HoloPed> no, geany?
[21:02] <lost_soul> the default install of geany (at least on debian) doesn't include themes, but they can easily be downloaded to give a nicer visual appearence and adjustments to highliting
[21:03] <HoloPed> ok cool
[21:03] <HoloPed> they website seems down
[21:03] <lost_soul> HoloPed: yes, it's pretty basic.. but very decent
[21:03] <HoloPed> *their
[21:03] <Technicus> neutrino: I did `sudo apt-get install python-dev`, it installed, but I still can not run: < https://gist.github.com/habnabit/5823693 >.
[21:03] <lost_soul> http://www.geany.org/
[21:03] <lost_soul> isn't down
[21:03] <Technicus> I was able to install twisted after installing python-dev
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[21:20] <neutrino> Technicus: whats the erro message
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[21:20] <neutrino> is it the same ?
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[21:23] <neutrino> Technicus: you could also try installing the package from repos
[21:23] <neutrino> python-tw<tab-autocomplete> to find out the name
[21:23] <neutrino> not sure if it exists
[21:24] <neutrino> but if it does you could try your luck with installing it that way
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[22:08] <Technicus> While following: < http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=59566&p=445371 >, when I try to run idle the response is: < https://gist.github.com/Technicus/92ee053477a17120e381 >. I'm trying to get twisted to work so that I can try: < https://gist.github.com/habnabit/5823693 >.
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[22:11] <themapplz> ‘evening fellas - anybody here who can help me? why is it so hard to find a 220v relay for the 3.3v gpio pins. what am i missing here? cheers, a noob
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[22:14] <DanDare> themapplz, you would (should) not want to drive the relay directly from pi GPIOs anyway. But what you mean? You can find only 5V relays?
[22:14] <SpeedEvil> themapplz: because relays that run at low power on 3.3V are basically nonexistant
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[22:14] <SpeedEvil> add a transistor, and problems ovelsd
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[22:14] <themapplz> yeah im a total newbie with circuits
[22:15] <themapplz> i’m just making a simple web server that i wnat to turn on some home appliance..
[22:15] <themapplz> donøt i need a 220v 3.3 relay for that?
[22:16] <DanDare> themapplz, this is a good example how to do it properly: http://www.ecs.umass.edu/ece/m5/tutorials/tip122_transistor_tutorial.html
[22:16] <SpeedEvil> Or b)
[22:16] <SpeedEvil> Ebay search 'USB relay' or 'raspberry relay'
[22:16] <DanDare> thebishop, but you dont need a big transistor like the TIP122. It can be smaller, but same logic
[22:17] <pksato> themapplz: buy a relay module. most use 5V coil, and 5v or 3v3 logic, and is simple to make it RPi compatible.
[22:17] <themapplz> i bought this thing
[22:17] <themapplz> https://elextra.dk/Cache/File/0/hhserver1/Data/Zpider/Images/H40642.JPG
[22:17] <pksato> or buy SSR .
[22:17] <themapplz> can you guys perhaps supply some urls?
[22:17] <themapplz> thanks btw !
[22:18] <pksato> it is a relay module. now need to know if active low or high.
[22:18] <pksato> active high is direct RPi compatible.
[22:19] <themapplz> i’m sorry you lost me.. but i’m just looking to buy the right thing.. :|
[22:20] <themapplz> needs to be 220-240v >10A from the gpio or usb or whatever
[22:20] <DanDare> themapplz, do you have any link of that module specs/information ?
[22:20] <themapplz> not in english im afraid
[22:20] <themapplz> https://elextra.dk/main.aspx?page=article&artno=H40642
[22:20] <pksato> themapplz: you need a relay to control 220@10A.
[22:20] <themapplz> yes
[22:21] <themapplz> liek a home appliance in my basement
[22:21] <pksato> 3v3 or 5v, or 12V (24V, 48V) is coil (control) voltage.
[22:21] <themapplz> http://www.instructables.com/id/Web-Control-of-Raspberry-Pi-GPIO/
[22:21] <themapplz> right
[22:21] <pksato> 3v3 relay are 'rare'.
[22:21] <themapplz> right
[22:22] <pksato> 5V and 12V are more common.
[22:22] <themapplz> haven’t foind one yet, so i figured i must be off on a wrong path
[22:22] <themapplz> ...
[22:22] <phire> I checked the 3v3 relays
[22:22] <phire> even the low current relays require more current than the pi can provide on a gpio pin
[22:22] <themapplz> hm.. so maybe the usb path?
[22:23] <pksato> but, for logic control point, coil voltage can be any.
[22:23] <phire> transistor
[22:23] <DanDare> themapplz, maybe better get some confirmation from guys here but by the relay module schematics, it looks like you can drive it directly fro pi, but feeding 5V om relays Vin pin, and ground it in common with pi
[22:23] <pksato> logic output do not have power to activate the relay.
[22:24] <pksato> need a driver circuit.
[22:24] <themapplz> mkay
[22:24] <themapplz> i think i hear ya
[22:24] <pksato> a driver circuit is a transistor operating on saturation.
[22:24] <DanDare> pksato, it says "TTL logic" on the specs
[22:24] <themapplz> ok
[22:26] <pksato> commom relay driver circuit use npn transistor, and is activated by high logic (5V or 3v3).
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[22:27] <themapplz> so the pi has a 5v current out i see (#2 on http://www.instructables.com/id/Control-Stuff-with-your-Raspberry-Pi-GPIO/) that needs to go to which pin on the relay?
[22:27] <pksato> On 'market' have lots of relay module (bad) designed to use with arduino.
[22:27] <pksato> arduino use 5V logic.
[22:27] <themapplz> yes
[22:27] <themapplz> yes i know
[22:27] <pksato> and these modules use low active logic.
[22:28] <themapplz> but i can like feed 5v in the relay from pin #2?
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[22:28] <pksato> some use opto-coupler to isolate logic and relay drive.
[22:28] <DanDare> themapplz, from that schematics, the logic pin to drive the module is pin 2
[22:29] <pksato> modules using opto-coupler can be used with rpi.
[22:29] <pksato> just 3v3 on logic side and 5V on relay side.
[22:29] <themapplz> so i’m not sure if i should just return the relay i bought or buy a transistor to accompany the relay or..
[22:29] <pksato> have a jumper to connect both to 5V.
[22:30] <themapplz> ah so maybe i get it
[22:30] <themapplz> the 3.3v from the pi
[22:31] <pksato> if relay module not use opto-coupler and is low logic, need a way to make it rpi compatible.
[22:31] <themapplz> trigegrs the 5v transistor that’ll trigger the relay right?
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[22:32] <themapplz> did i get it right?
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[22:34] <pksato> what you get?
[22:34] <themapplz> that instead of using the relay alone, i need to get a transistor that’ll bump the power up from 3.3 to 5v sp the relay can start.
[22:35] <themapplz> is that right?
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[22:35] <pksato> http://www.petervis.com/Raspberry_PI/Driving_Relays_with_CMOS_and_TTL_Outputs/Driving_Relays_with_CMOS_and_TTL_Outputs.html
[22:36] <themapplz> cool thank you i’ll read this
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[22:36] <pksato> is not to 'bump' 3v3 to 5v. Is to increase current, from few mA (or microA) to power need on relay coil to propper 'lock'.
[22:39] <pksato> 5V relay need near 80mA. Most logic output have max. load below 20mA.
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[22:45] <themapplz> ok cool
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[22:48] <themapplz> pksato: thanks! i guess if i go to the hobby store they’ll know what i need
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[22:53] <themapplz> sorry
[22:53] <themapplz> back again
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[23:31] <themapplz> 2
[23:31] <themapplz> 3
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[23:32] <Encrypt> Boom!
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[23:37] <gschanuel> hello
[23:37] <gschanuel> does anyone here uses openwrt on raspi?
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