#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-08-12

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[0:21] <joejoe1> Hello, I am trying to install openelec on my raspberry pi using a USB drive for storage. When I do the pi freezes after saying successfully removed device. When I don't using the USB device as storage and just run off the SD card there are no issues. I am able to access the USB devices perfectly fine. I have tried with different power supplies and the same thing occurs. Any help is
[0:21] <joejoe1> appricated.
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[0:25] <ebarch> joejoe1: would you happen to have a powered USB hub you could test with the pi? if it's a physical spinning disk you could be exceeding what the Pi can supply (even if your power adapter is rated for it)
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[0:26] <joejoe1> I have tried with and without the usb hub. It is a usb pen drive
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[0:27] <ebarch> hmm, that's strange. flash drives should work fine. does it work until you unmount the drive?
[0:28] <joejoe1> yes, but the unmount happens pretty much right after boot
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[0:36] <ebarch> joejoe1: sorry, I'm not too familiar with openelec/xbmc. if you had a spare SD card, it might be worth a shot to see if raspbmc does the same thing
[0:37] <joejoe1> yeah. I tried that too.. seems very strange to me. Thanks for your help, I will keep searching!
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[0:40] <ebarch> good luck :) it very well could be hardware related if you're seeing the same thing on different distros. i'm sure if you stick around, there are others around here that would be more knowledgeable.
[0:41] <ebarch> one other thing - have you tried different USB drives? I never had it happen with a flash drive, but when one of my external drives started failing electrically it kept bringing down my pi
[0:42] <ebarch> you could also try freshly formatting a drive as FAT32 and testing that
[0:42] <joejoe1> yeah, just finsihed trying different usb same thing!
[0:43] <ebarch> perhaps it's one of the files that xbmc is trying to index that is causing it to crash? is it a FAT32 partition?
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[0:46] <joejoe1> The SD is FAT32 and the USB is EXT4
[0:47] <ebarch> might be worth a shot formatting the USB drive as FAT32 and keeping it empty. then see if it still unmounts
[0:48] <joejoe1> It's an idea, I'll give it a shot right now
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[0:53] <joejoe1> that time the xbmc logo screen kept coming on. Seemed like the start up was in a continous loop
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[1:35] <mang0> Hey guys, I just downloaded the netinst zip of Raspbian, it was installing fine until I got to writing the ext3 file system. It's been stuck on the same percentage for about 30 minutes now. Any ideas?
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[1:48] <lost_soul> mang0: leave it a bit longer
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[1:49] <mang0> lost_soul, yeah it just cleared itself, thanks! I think I was a bit paranoid because I've been having some issues with the SD, so I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work. Thanks :)
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[1:49] <lost_soul> np
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[2:12] <ShorTie> bummer about Robin Williams .. :(~
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[3:24] <swiss> woo, my board came in for my display
[3:24] <swiss> now i just have to get unlazy and finish writing the code to make my display functional
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[3:34] <Jesperhead> hey all, anyone here ever happen to hook up their pi to a lapdock?
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[3:42] <nplus> My raspberry pi has been running flawlessly until maybe a week ago. I'm running Raspbmc, pretty much vanilla, no OC. The problem is I'll go to use it, there's no internet and I think USB is also not working (no lights on keyboard). I manually powercycled it (unplug) and it seems fine for a little bit, then poof no internet again
[3:42] <r0bert-> why is pi refusing to accept dhcp addy? This is a brand new card w/ a brand new Raspbian install
[3:43] <nplus> My first guess is it's overheating (it's ~30C right now), but nothing feels *really* hot to the touch
[3:43] <r0bert-> http://susepaste.org/18494517
[3:44] <nplus> I'll also add that the UI seems fine, XBMC loads up and the clock keeps ticking away
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[3:50] <abnormal> hello,, sleepy heads, wake up...
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[3:55] <b4tm4n> what is the best branch to use for compiling your own image for a B+
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[4:18] <Jesperhead> http://ix.io/dRm 1000 internets to whomever can enlighten me as to what t3h frick is wrong with my xorg
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[4:18] <Jesperhead> i am nublet so flames are welcome as long as you kiss me afterwards
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[4:50] <DanDare> Jesperhead, what are you using? Raspbian?
[4:50] <Jesperhead> meant to paste in beaglebone :(
[4:50] <DanDare> :D ok
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[4:50] <Jesperhead> but please, all channels are dead if you have any advice
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[4:51] <Jesperhead> distro is arch arm
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[4:52] <DanDare> Jesperhead, im not sure but I see errors there that seems to be related to keyboard. are you using some exotic or some top keyboard full of functions?
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[4:52] <Jesperhead> its a lapdock
[4:52] <Jesperhead> lapdock 500
[4:52] <Jesperhead> saw some writeups for a smiliar model for both BB and RPi
[4:52] <DanDare> Oh ok. no clue them :(
[4:53] <doc-saintly> Does anyone have a guide for getting a raspberry pi to push a physical button? (All of my google search hits involve attaching a button to a breadboard to do something on the piu)
[4:53] <doc-saintly> pi*
[4:54] <DanDare> Jesperhead, its possible to install Debian from scratch on beagle using just official debian repos? (offtopi, this is my only question I promise)
[4:54] <Jesperhead> doc-saintly: i did an arcade set up with one a few months back, but that used the breadboarding stuff
[4:54] <doc-saintly> Jesperhead: I don't mind that, it's just that all the hits are for physical button input, as opposed to output
[4:55] <Jesperhead> DanDare: possible sure, but time consume
[4:55] <Jesperhead> doc-saintly: ah you want to send a signal to an external peripheral?
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[4:56] <Jesperhead> or literally use motors to "push a button"
[4:57] <DanDare> doc-saintly, make pi push a physical button? only manner is using a motor or servo or any inductive mechanical device I guess :p
[4:57] <Jesperhead> https://www.google.com/search?q=servo&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb#channel=sb&q=servo+hobby&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=shop dey cheap
[4:57] <DanDare> As for how a button usually works, you ca use a mosfet to trigger a contact e.g.
[4:58] <DanDare> wiring the mosfet (or whatever), on that button contacts
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[5:08] <doc-saintly> yea, using a motor to push it. I thought there might be a pre-built module for this as it would be a common thing I think.
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[5:09] <DanDare> doc-saintly, not common. The common way of doing it is interacting with the electronic part of the circuit. Its much easier to trigger a button electronically than by mechanical means
[5:09] <DanDare> for automation, thats
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[5:10] <doc-saintly> DanDare: Understood. I have yet to take the thing apart to see how the switch works inside.
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[5:10] <doc-saintly> Worst case is I'll have to do the motor thing, so I wanted to see how bad that would be
[5:10] <DanDare> I see :)
[5:10] <DanDare> simple buttons are just simple buttons, inside also
[5:10] <DanDare> bridging current, high or low side
[5:11] <doc-saintly> This is an electric kettle, you turn it on, and it goes until it boils and then it shuts itself off.
[5:11] <doc-saintly> so, the whole auto-shutoff thing makes me think it's a bit more complicated
[5:11] <Jesperhead> dont most kettles shut themselves off by mechanical means?
[5:11] <doc-saintly> because it could have a physical temperature monitor that pops the button back into place.
[5:11] <doc-saintly> exactly
[5:11] <DanDare> doc-saintly, but its a soft button or the button remains pressed until it auto shut off ?
[5:11] <doc-saintly> button remains pressed
[5:11] <doc-saintly> then it "pops" back out
[5:11] <DanDare> Ah I see
[5:11] <doc-saintly> so - i wouldn't be able to detect with the Pi to know "Oh, its time to shut off"
[5:11] <DanDare> so thats different, really
[5:11] <doc-saintly> and then I melt the kettle.
[5:12] <Jesperhead> question, and feel free to ignore... why are you turning your kettle into a computer?
[5:12] <doc-saintly> Because my girlfriend always asks me to get up and turn her water on, and I thought a web-based "turn kettle on" thing would be a funny surprise
[5:12] <Jesperhead> l-o-freaking-l
[5:13] <DanDare> its the "Gyro Gearloose"invent type. I like it :P
[5:13] <Jesperhead> look out macguyver
[5:14] <Jesperhead> best rational solution imo would be a level or rod that simple flips the switch/pushed the button and lets the kettle handle the boiling/turning off
[5:14] <doc-saintly> hehe. well, thanks :) You may see me around :D
[5:14] <Jesperhead> not level, lever*
[5:14] <doc-saintly> Jesperhead: that's where my mind was going :)
[5:14] <DanDare> doc-saintly, take care of her not putting a end on the relationship... I mean, what you will serve for if that machine works ?
[5:14] <doc-saintly> best to stay "outside" of that box.
[5:15] <DanDare> ehheheh, j/k :)
[5:15] <Jesperhead> good luck
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[5:15] <doc-saintly> DanDare: haha, well, either way I won't have to get up and turn on the kettle ;)
[5:15] <DanDare> hhaaha yeah :)
[5:16] <DanDare> I hope its the button there is not too hard too push
[5:16] <DanDare> you may have to choose a good servo that can make all the pressure, and attach it there firmly (of course)
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[5:19] <Jesperhead> alignment will have to be constant, and possibly brace the kettle from actually being displaced by the manipulator
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[5:21] <DanDare> or... get hands on some SSR, nichrome wire and build your own automated kettle :p
[5:21] <DanDare> (also program pi to send warns to the fire dept.)
[5:21] <Jesperhead> hahaha
[5:22] <DanDare> :)
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[5:27] <DanDare> doc-saintly, sounds better to just leave that button pressed, but kettle disconnected from mains. Pi then will just turn mains ON, using a relay
[5:28] <DanDare> no mechanical parts, all good
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[5:43] <doc-saintly> DanDare: I have some pics, just a sec. It looks a little promising, but I still don't know what I'm looking at.
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[5:56] <doc-saintly> DanDare: http://jarvispowered.com/piket/
[5:56] <doc-saintly> Also @ Jesperhead
[5:57] <doc-saintly> it almost looks like the little disc close to the button is an electromagnet that the thing turns on to "bounce" the switch back, but I'm not sure.
[5:58] <evil_dan2wik> I want to put a raspberry pi into a car to log it's position and approximate speed, I have a uBlox Neo GPS unit, will it be possible?
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[6:03] <swiss> does python do interrupts well?
[6:03] <swiss> i seem to recall that being a problem...
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[6:10] <doc-saintly> cd /var/www
[6:11] <doc-saintly> bleh, interesting
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[6:11] <doc-saintly> sorry guys :) I thought I made a new screen but I Just cleared this one
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[6:16] <doc-saintly> http://karisimby.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/standard-kettle-circuit-diagram/ <- ah, good stuff :)
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[7:03] <DigiSaint> anyone in here have experience using USB sound cards with the raspberry pi?
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[7:28] <xmatthias> quick question - is jessie and testing the same (for apt-get)? or is testing even newer?
[7:29] <xmatthias> ls
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[7:36] <doc-saintly> do you think a stepper motor would have enough force to press a button?
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[7:40] <evil_dan2wik> doc-saintly, It depends on the type of stepper.
[7:40] <evil_dan2wik> Actually, I could press a button with almost anything and a gearbox
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[7:42] <RoBo_V> hey techTalkers, Morning !
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[7:43] <buttbutter> Has anyone here had luck installing XBMC on Arch on a pi?
[7:44] <buttbutter> XBMC starts up for me, but if I click on anything it jsut freaks out and locks up and there are all sorts of image artifacts and glitching
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[8:09] <rahul__> Hii all
[8:10] <rahul__> I want to work with my native language on pi.. i am not getting that support.
[8:10] <rahul__> i installed ttf-indic-fonts
[8:11] <rahul__> but as i am running application and as i am typing telugu letter it is putting block there
[8:11] <rahul__> some undefined character
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[8:17] <rahul__> any one here?
[8:17] <binaryhermit> no
[8:17] <evil_dan2wik> yes
[8:17] <evil_dan2wik> oh, apparently no-one is here then.
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[8:18] <lost_soul> didn't someone once say that patience is a virtue?
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[8:20] <rahul__> :D
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[8:38] <rahul__> i am getting locale arrors every time i install any thing
[8:38] <rahul__> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
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[8:40] <evil_dan2wik> rahul__, It looks like your locales aren't setup properly.
[8:40] <evil_dan2wik> Do you have a default locale setup?
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[8:41] <rahul__> evil_dan2wik, How to check this?
[8:41] <rahul__> http://codepad.org/6HQcXCNq
[8:41] <rahul__> this is the output of locale
[8:42] <evil_dan2wik> idk, I don't use my raspberrypi much.
[8:42] <evil_dan2wik> I set it up as a solar logger and left it.
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[8:45] <lost_soul> rahul__: well, that blatently shows en_US
[8:45] <lost_soul> so unless you want US english.. prolly needs to be altered
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[9:59] <shiftplusone> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fiveninjas/slice-a-media-player-and-more
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[10:00] <shiftplusone> (media player based on the CM)
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[10:04] <RoBo_V> shiftplusone: seems nice but not impressive
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[10:05] <shiftplusone> I like it, but there are cheaper alternatives. Still, I'll be getting one, since it is pretty cool.
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[10:34] <gordonDrogon> Hahaha... 5 ninjas.. wonder who they are then :)
[10:35] <shiftplusone> some guy and a few pimoroni and foundation folk (personal project sort of deal)
[10:35] <shiftplusone> but I'm sure you knew that >_<
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[10:35] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[10:38] <gordonDrogon> shame I'm not a "media" type person.
[10:38] <gordonDrogon> I have zero use for it.
[10:38] <shiftplusone> I'll be using mine as a torrent/nas box sort of deal. Maybe get a few emulators on there.
[10:38] <gordonDrogon> still have a tube TV too. maybe one day I'll get one with hdmi input.
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[11:13] <RahulAN> hii al
[11:13] <RahulAN> http://dump.no/files/6bf5394519f6/2014-08-12-090716_1366x768_scrot.png please help me with this issue
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[11:14] <RahulAN> i am using my native language, it is typing correctly on leafpad and all other but as i am trying it with my application it is showing blocks
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[11:18] <gordonDrogon> does your application support unicode?
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[11:29] <RahulAN> gordonDrogon, how to know this??
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[11:40] <gordonDrogon> well did you write the application? If so, then you'll know if it handles unicode characters or not ...
[11:41] <dunz0r> If you don't know it probably doesn't...
[11:42] <ShorTie> RTM maybe
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[11:43] <RahulAN> gordonDrogon, i didn't wrote this app
[11:44] <RahulAN> i only compiled it for raspberry pi
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[12:07] <felixjet> guys, can i abuse your knowledge about electronics and ask an offtopic question? XD
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[12:08] <ShorTie> sure, you can ask
[12:09] <felixjet> i got a chromecast and the cable says 5V 0.85A, but my TV only have "USB HDD 5V 1A" and "USB 5V 0.50A" connectors
[12:09] <felixjet> where i should plug it?
[12:10] <felixjet> from what i know, it doesn't matter because 5V is the same in both, but i do need a higher current than 0.85 ? or 0.50 will do too
[12:11] <ShorTie> you normally want a power supply with a higher rating then what you plan to draw from it
[12:12] <mfa298> I'd probably go with the 5V 1A connector. Matching voltage is important. You then want the Supply to be able to provide enough current for the device (1A > 0.85A so good, 0.5A < 0.85A so bad things could happen)
[12:12] <felixjet> i see
[12:13] <felixjet> 1A then xD thank you!
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[12:13] <Boscop> when i connect to my pi via ssh and start raspivid, and the connection gets interrutped/disconnected the camera is still recording and i can't login via ssh again. why?
[12:13] <ShorTie> you could try the .50 amp port (which is like the standard for usb ports), but there hdd port at 1 amp would most likely be a better port to use
[12:13] <Boscop> what can i do to prevent this?
[12:14] <ShorTie> is that a wifi connection ??
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[12:15] <Boscop> ShorTie: mine?
[12:15] <ShorTie> Yes
[12:15] <Boscop> yes
[12:15] <Boscop> why does it matter?
[12:15] <Boscop> it's remote
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[12:15] <Boscop> the pi is connected via ethernet
[12:16] <Boscop> why can't i ssh login when the camera is on?
[12:16] <Boscop> and the pi/camera is not frozen btw
[12:17] <ShorTie> wifi is not a 100% connectivaty type of thing
[12:17] <Boscop> yeah so?
[12:17] <Boscop> i should be able to login again
[12:17] <Boscop> and turn the cam off
[12:17] <Boscop> kill the raspivid cmd
[12:17] <Boscop> right?
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[12:18] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, depends.
[12:18] <Boscop> on what?
[12:19] <ShorTie> guess wifi to the pi doesn't matter because you said it is connected by ehernet cable
[12:19] <ShorTie> ethernet*
[12:21] <shiftplusone> how you you know the pi is not locked up (due to power issues or whatnot)?
[12:21] <evil_dan2wik> The webcam in my laptop uses almost all my processing power and I am using ubuntu.
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[12:21] <evil_dan2wik> It uses software lightening when the room is dark.
[12:21] <shiftplusone> it's quite possible for video to keep going while the arm is messed up. But if that's not the case, we don't know why you can't ssh into your pi.
[12:22] <shiftplusone> since that's not the normal behaviour
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[12:27] <Boscop> shiftplusone: because the cam is still recording
[12:27] <Boscop> and displaying the vid on the screen
[12:28] <shiftplusone> doesn't matter
[12:28] <shiftplusone> that happens on the videocore
[12:28] <Boscop> but the business logic to display the cam input on the screen is on the cpu
[12:29] <evil_dan2wik> But is it really?
[12:30] <ShorTie> when you have a deadicated process like that, it can still run while the reast of the system gets messed up and becomes unresponsive
[12:30] <shiftplusone> in any case, serial ftw
[12:31] <evil_dan2wik> yeah, a serial adapter does wonders.
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[12:35] <Boscop> shiftplusone: serial what?
[12:35] <Boscop> for the camera?
[12:35] <Boscop> how?
[12:35] <shiftplusone> no
[12:36] <shiftplusone> usb to uart adapter for the pi
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[12:36] <shiftplusone> then if the ARM is running, you can get a shell without relying on the network being up.
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[12:37] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, most debug messages are printed to the serial port by default.
[12:38] <Boscop> evil_dan2wik: serial port of what?
[12:38] <evil_dan2wik> the Pi
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[12:38] <evil_dan2wik> GPIO has a serial port on it.
[12:38] <Boscop> debug messages are printed over the GPIO pins?
[12:39] <evil_dan2wik> 2 pins on the GPIO are RX and TX of uart serial
[12:39] <gordonDrogon> strictly speaking, the Linux console messages are output over the serial port (that's on the GPIO headers)
[12:39] <Boscop> shiftplusone: by ARM you mean the cpu?
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[12:39] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, yes, that is what is meant.
[12:39] <Boscop> what's uart?
[12:39] <gordonDrogon> these are the messages that normally go into /var/log/syslog
[12:40] <gordonDrogon> uart -> Universal Asynchronous Receiver, Transmitter
[12:40] <Boscop> so i'd have to plug the uart to usb adapter on the gpio pins, and then how do i get a shell?
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[12:40] <gordonDrogon> go to the seaside?
[12:40] <gordonDrogon> ;-)
[12:41] <shiftplusone> putty, screen, minicom, hyperterminal... whatever you like
[12:41] <Boscop> but it's usb
[12:41] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, pretty sure there are half a dozen tutorials on how to do that.
[12:41] <shiftplusone> Boscop, so?
[12:41] <Boscop> not network
[12:41] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, it is a usb serial port.
[12:41] <gordonDrogon> you plug the wires into the Pi's serial pins - plug the usb end into another PC/Linux/Pi, etc. and run a terminal program on the far-end.
[12:41] <Boscop> ok
[12:41] <Boscop> but what if i need all the gpio pins?
[12:42] * shiftplusone introduces Boscop to how things worked before networking was common. (except without the usb part)
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[12:42] <evil_dan2wik> I thought that the serial pins couldn't be used for IO
[12:42] <evil_dan2wik> just serial.
[12:42] <evil_dan2wik> http://lavalink.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/raspberry-pi-serial_sm.jpg
[12:42] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: what is the protocol that terminals use over serial pins?
[12:42] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, ^
[12:43] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, it's "normal". ie. just plug it in and run a terminal program and it will work. There is nothing special about it.
[12:43] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, they can be used for IO, you just need to make sure the kernel doesn't try to spit stuff out there
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[12:43] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
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[12:43] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, the only think you might need to know is the speed - which is 115200 baud by default.
[12:44] <evil_dan2wik> it is 3.3v TTL logic btw.
[12:44] <Boscop> gordonDrogon: i mean what is the name of the standard of terminal communication over serial
[12:44] <evil_dan2wik> don't break it.
[12:44] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, serial communication?
[12:44] <gordonDrogon> Boscop, one name, although technically incorrect here is RS-232.
[12:44] <Boscop> why incorrect?
[12:44] <evil_dan2wik> because it isn't rs232
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[12:45] <Boscop> what is it then?
[12:45] <gordonDrogon> it's technically incorrect as Rs-232 specified voltage levels - so we have the Pi's 3.3v to USB serial, so the voltages aren't really an issue as long as the usb serial works at 3.3v.
[12:45] <shiftplusone> rs232 implies certain voltages which would murder the pi
[12:45] <Boscop> 5v?
[12:45] <gordonDrogon> however the data format is the same regardless of the voltage.
[12:45] <Boscop> ok
[12:45] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, 5v will not be suitable for Pi
[12:45] <Boscop> i know
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[12:45] <shiftplusone> nope, not 5v. rs232 is something silly like 12 and goes from positive to negative as well, IIRC.
[12:46] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/141235963488
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[12:49] <Boscop> evil_dan2wik: what do TX and RX stand for?
[12:49] <evil_dan2wik> Transmit and Receive.
[12:50] <evil_dan2wik> idk what the X is.
[12:50] <shiftplusone> TransXmit and RecXeive >.>
[12:50] <shiftplusone> (not really)
[12:51] <Boscop> so i have no choice but to unplug the pi now?
[12:52] <shiftplusone> are magic keys enabled in raspbian by default?
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[12:56] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, is anything else responding?
[12:56] <evil_dan2wik> like the act light?
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[13:18] <Boscop> evil_dan2wik: the act light is off but fdx is on, lnk is blinking and 100 is on
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[13:19] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, those are ethernet lights, that just means the ethernet chip is working.
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[13:22] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, what camera?
[13:22] <evil_dan2wik> What power supply?
[13:24] <Boscop> evil_dan2wik: noir. power supply is a phone charger for normal wall sockets
[13:24] <evil_dan2wik> what is it rated?
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[13:26] <evil_dan2wik> Talking about the power supply, not the camera.
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[13:39] <shiftplusone> hmm... slice kickstarted seems to be 15k in. Looks like it might get funded then =)
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[13:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> yeah I think it will egt funded easily
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[13:41] <shiftplusone> Kind of wish the case won't fancy anodised aluminium and just a plastic one, since most of the price is the 1TB disk and the case >_<
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[13:43] <nid0> tbh though, the aluminium case and flashy light are the only real reason I can see people would buy one rather than the countless other existing products
[13:43] <shiftplusone> Yeah, I think that's the reasoning behind it.
[13:43] <Boscop> evil_dan2wik: rated? you mean the output?
[13:44] <Boscop> dunno, to read that, i'd have to unplug it
[13:44] <Boscop> why does it matter?
[13:44] <Boscop> but i'm wondering if there's a way to get the pi functioning without unplugging
[13:44] <Boscop> in case this happens again when i'm accessing from remote
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[13:47] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, prevent it from becoming unresponsive?
[13:48] <evil_dan2wik> or, a network controlled switch to reboot it.
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[13:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> evil_dan2wik - I think the X in TX and RX actualy meant cross over - as in transmit across this line - then you get the T and R
[13:49] <Boscop> evil_dan2wik: yeah, how to prevent it from becoming unresponsive?
[13:50] <Boscop> evil_dan2wik: it's 5v 1000mA
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[13:51] <evil_dan2wik> Boscop, I used to use a 5v, 1A charger and ended up with stability problems, I am currently using an apple charger which I worked out could supply up to 2A even though it is rated for 1A
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[14:05] <crised> Has anyone used OpenCV with raspberry pi?
[14:06] <gordonDrogon> crised, a friend of mine has, but I really don't know he details. He's calling it from Python. Seems to be able to analyse about one frame/ second...
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[14:06] <crised> gordonDrogon: okm so it's not too much for the camera
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[14:07] <crised> *opencv is not to heavy for the rasp
[14:07] <ppq> if one frame per second is enough for you, yes
[14:07] <crised> ppq: more than that is too much
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[14:09] <gordonDrogon> he's not using the Pi camera though, but some generic usb webcam.
[14:09] <gordonDrogon> he has a robot that chases red/green balls. slowly.
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[14:15] <evil_dan2wik> My robot used to try to chase balls but usually ended up chasing someone's shoes
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[14:16] <crised> I was thinking in an IP camera, not a usb/rasp camra
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[14:17] <crised> gordonDrogon: http://www.mobotix.com/other/Products/MxActivitySensor/Motion-Analysis
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[14:18] <gordonDrogon> crised, website needs cookies - so I can't see it by default - their loss.
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[14:22] <crised> gordonDrogon: there is a book for opencv and rasp http://www.amazon.com/Practical-OpenCV-Technology-Samarth-Brahmbhatt/dp/1430260793/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1407845999&sr=8-3&keywords=opencv
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[14:24] <gordonDrogon> sure - I'm not interested in it myself - I just mentioned that a friend was using it in response to your question asking if anyone was using it...
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[14:51] <xmatthias> quick question - is jessie and testing the same (for apt-get)? or is testing even newer?
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[14:54] <ppq> xmatthias, right now, jessie and testing are the same. that changes when jessie becomes stable
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[14:55] <xmatthias> thanks - so it doesn't matter what i insert...
[14:55] <xmatthias> i'm always on testing
[14:55] <ppq> no problem. sure, depends on what you want
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[15:09] <mang0> Hey guys, I just freshly installed Raspbian this morning, any ideas why I'm getting this error when trying to use apt-get install? http://pastebin.com/QkHHJd0X
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[15:11] <rosapoP> apt-get update
[15:11] <rosapoP> ?
[15:11] <shiftplusone> no, it seems like there's a problem with tar, maybe sd card is corrupted.
[15:11] <mang0> rosapoP, apt-get update seems to run fine.
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[15:12] <mang0> shiftplusone, the SD was corrupted yesterday when I went to boot my RPi for the first time in months, so I formatted and reinstalled this morning, now I'm getting this error.
[15:12] <mang0> Don't even have a spare SD, gah
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[15:13] <shiftplusone> are you doing anything fancy like running mysql or a distro other than the latest raspbian from the official website?
[15:13] <rosapoP> in my experiece if apt-get spits out strange errors i run apt-get update
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[15:14] <nid0> do you have a screen attached to the pi?
[15:14] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: if he's installing sudo - he must be.
[15:14] <rosapoP> or get the SD card fully reformated
[15:14] <mang0> shiftplusone, nope, I downloaded the top zip here: http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianInstaller (rpi_installer_08-19-12.zip), I wonder if it's messing up because it's an old messed up version
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[15:14] <shiftplusone> ah, then I'm not going to bother.
[15:15] <mang0> I think I'll try reformatting again, and flashing the image instead of doing a netinst.
[15:15] <shiftplusone> if you're going to use a netinstall, use raspbian-uanetinst at least
[15:15] <[Saint]> Indeed.
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[15:15] <nid0> then fsck your install
[15:15] <[Saint]> <shameless plug inserted> ;))
[15:15] <mang0> shiftplusone, I didn't actually go to that page to download the zip, so I didn't see that I should use that version. I had the zip downloaded from ages ago, woops
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[15:16] <[Saint]> You shouldn;t use *any* of those images.
[15:17] <[Saint]> They're ancient, Jim.
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[15:17] <mang0> I'll just go for the normal download from the rpi.org downloads page >.<
[15:18] <[Saint]> Either download Raspbian straight from the RPF, or use raspbian-ua-netinst
[15:18] <[Saint]> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[15:18] <mang0> I'll go for the first one, I'm about done with netinstallations now aha
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[15:18] <shiftplusone> nothing wrong with netinstalls
[15:18] <[Saint]> Well, that netinst is actually maintained, and isn't almost three years old... ;)
[15:18] <shiftplusone> just look at the date of the installer
[15:18] <[Saint]> Indeedy.
[15:19] * shiftplusone uses netinstalls at home
[15:19] <[Saint]> If you wanted a netinst in the first place, you almost certainly don't want the RPF Raspbian image and its 2GB of bloat.
[15:19] <mang0> shiftplusone, yeah it was my mistake, I should have looked for more recent ones. I just opened my 'OS' storage folder and found that zip, thought I'd use it to save me redownloading.
[15:19] <shiftplusone> only using the full raspbian image in the office so that I have a common base with the other devs.
[15:20] <mang0> [Saint], ^ it wasn't to do with the bloat or particularly wanting to do a netinst, I just came across the netinst first.
[15:20] <[Saint]> Hilariously, you probably burned more traffic bringing it up to date that you would have done re-downloading a new image. :)
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[15:20] <mang0> [Saint], oh the irony :')
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[15:22] <[Saint]> Awwwww. :-/
[15:22] <[Saint]> I'm all cold now, my scarf-kitten jumped down.
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[15:23] <[Saint]> She's doing the typical 1am "run around the house at light speed jumping off the furniture" thing any cat owner will be familiar with.
[15:23] <[Saint]> The midnight crazies.
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[15:32] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzF2yU5yzDs [Saint]
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[15:36] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FDwZfhdkA3M#t=125
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[15:39] <[Saint]> My cats are allowed outside. They wouldn't know what to do with that.
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[15:40] <[Saint]> Its a very cool idea for inside cats, though.
[15:40] <[Saint]> Very cool.
[15:41] <Encrypt> Free Energy is here \o/
[15:42] <[Saint]> When there's felines involved, _nothing_ is free. ;)
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[15:42] <benny-> i think you would pay more for food, then you can get out of this construction ;)
[15:42] <SpeedEvil> Fun fact.
[15:42] <Encrypt> [Saint], Ok, right :P
[15:42] <SpeedEvil> Animals in the wild will use a wheel
[15:43] * [Saint] nods
[15:43] <SpeedEvil> http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/281/1786/20140210.full
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[15:45] <[Saint]> My cats like the classics.
[15:46] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.awesome-robo.com/2011/05/70-bootleg-movie-posters.html
[15:46] <[Saint]> Paper bags, cardboard boxes, ripping small mammals apart.
[15:47] <[Saint]> lol @ Leonidas' thumb.
[15:47] <[Saint]> RaTTuS|BIG: ^
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[15:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> ;-p
[15:50] <[Saint]> "ANTHON HOPKIN"
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[15:51] <Balzy> hello people, has anyone ever tried anchor cms on a pi?
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[15:52] <[Saint]> Balzy: I'd go with Drupal
[15:52] <[Saint]> If for nothing else than the community and extensive userbase.
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[15:53] <[Saint]> (the fact that I'm friendly with several core developers likely has me rather biased I'm sure, but, meh...its a great product)
[15:53] <Balzy> [Saint] I know it's not exactly a lightweight cms
[15:54] <Balzy> I read many good opinions too, I was considering it, but since wordpress takes 3-4 second to load a page
[15:54] <Balzy> I don't think drupal (even if I read it's faster and lighter) will bring it down to ~ 1 second
[15:55] <Balzy> do you run it on a pi? if so what's your experience?
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> I saw a wordpress on a P yesterday...
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[15:55] <gordonDrogon> trying to remember the link..
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> it was ok.
[15:55] <[Saint]> dingleberrypi
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> that's the one.
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> I did an experiment myself with wp,apache & mysql some time back. it was usable - would be slowed down by many plugins though.
[15:57] <[Saint]> So Drupal should, in theory, be slightly better.
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[16:00] <Cujo> nick RaTTuS|BIG
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[16:03] <Balzy> gordonDrogon [Saint] tried wp too
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[16:04] <Balzy> yes it's usable but I don't like waiting 3-4 seconds for a page to load
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[16:04] <Balzy> changing settings takes even more
[16:04] <[Saint]> the site we both viewed yesterday was by no means taking that long to serve pages.
[16:05] <Balzy> it's tiring after a while
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> Balzy, have a look at http://www.raspipress.com/ seems to take < 1 seconds for me.
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[16:05] <[Saint]> Is it possible that your connection is just awful?
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> (it appears that dingleberrypi has a redirect now)
[16:05] <Balzy> gordonDrogon yes I know that site and the home takes a while
[16:05] <Balzy> maybe because it's cached
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[16:06] <[Saint]> I don't keep any cache, and its damn near instant here.
[16:06] <[Saint]> definitely < 1s
[16:06] <Balzy> with dupral?
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[16:06] * [Saint] sighs
[16:07] <[Saint]> With the above linked example I believed we were all talking about
[16:07] <[Saint]> (at least two of us were...)
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[16:07] <gordonDrogon> I'm finding that site vert responsive.
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> *very
[16:07] <[Saint]> Indeed.
[16:07] <Balzy> yup instant
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[16:08] <gordonDrogon> not as fast as some of my own, but my own have big themes, lots of graphics, etc.
[16:08] <gordonDrogon> and quad-core, gigabunjy memory....
[16:09] <gordonDrogon> so there you are - for a wordpress site, I think that Pi is doing rather well.
[16:09] * [Saint] has 47 seventy-eleventeen-core CPUs.
[16:10] <[Saint]> On a more serious note, yes, indeed. And if WP runs that well, it only stands to reason that Drupal will do it at least comparably, but with less overhead.
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[16:15] <gordonDrogon> I always thought drupal was much "heavier" than WP ?
[16:16] <[Saint]> I'll admit to not having followed WP too closely of late, but at least last time I checked Drupal was the winner in terms of resource usage and overhead.
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[16:25] <Armand> I find that drupal is heavier as standard.
[16:25] <Armand> As well as being PITA complicated and prone to easy breakage.
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[19:34] <DanDare> Hello. Anyone used to TP-Link TL-WN725N running attached to raspberry pi?
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[19:36] <HoloPed> does anyone know how to move the video created by RPi Cam Control motion detection to a different folder ?
[19:36] <HoloPed> I set the output folder in the config file, but it seems to only effect images, not the video
[19:37] <HoloPed> the image is created in the correct place, but the video remains in var/www/media
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[19:48] <mang0> Hey all, I'm having some issues with audio not working with my new install - Raspbian. This is the error log I get when trying to play a wav file through mplayer: any ideas? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8028409/
[19:49] <pksato> audio on linux are a mistery to solve. :)
[19:50] <pksato> on case, mplayer default conf is using pulse to output.
[19:50] <pksato> and pulse daemon is not running.
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[19:54] <mang0> pksato, I apparently don't even have pulseaudio installed >.<
[19:54] <mang0> Linux and audio are two words I never like hearing in the same sentence
[19:55] * shiftplusone sees "linux" and "audio" in a sentence and hides.
[19:55] <mang0> :P
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[20:00] <mang0> pksato, well I installed pulse and ran it as a daemon, no errors now, just... no audio!
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[20:20] <Bilby> Ello all
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[20:22] <Bilby> So I'm moderately sure i've seen a how-to for a basic raspi info center, but i can't find it now. Would like to display date, time, basic weather, and maybe some internet status info, somewhat nicely formatted. Anyone have any thoughts?
[20:24] <lost_soul> as to which aspect
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[20:24] <lost_soul> and are you wanting terminal output, or nicer?
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[20:25] <lost_soul> terminal is relatively easy... grab the date and toss it in a variable, you can grab the weather info off sites like weather.com... system status is same(ish)
[20:25] <lost_soul> if you want fancier.. maybe setup a web server with php
[20:26] <lost_soul> if your goal is to learn.. I would do both
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[20:26] <Bilby> something nicer is what I'm thinking
[20:27] <Bilby> I have a client that is a small school and i'd like to set up a little info center in the lounge as a demo
[20:27] <Bilby> it's going to be running a couple of other things so it's needed anyway
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[20:27] <Bilby> yeah, I thought about just making a page. easy enough to make it auto-refresh periodically
[20:28] <lost_soul> when you say nicer, do you mean nicer than a command line interface.. or nicer than both options I listed?
[20:28] <Bilby> lol, sorry, just nicer than a command line ;)
[20:28] <lost_soul> and to be honest if you want everything on one interface knowing the other roles this system would play would be beneficial
[20:29] <Bilby> it's going to be running CUPS and chromium in the background to act as a google cloud print server for a couple of printers
[20:29] <lost_soul> something may throw a red flag and require something that isn't being considered with the items you've already listed
[20:29] <Bilby> that's about it, for the moment
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[20:32] <lost_soul> I'm unfamiliar with Chromium.. I would still go with the command line version first and build on top of that.. of course that would be limited to the items you first mentioned but two things... first you still need to parse the information.. it's easier to parse in the command line so you can quickly see the output and any errors.. This way you will know if things don't work right in your web interface that it is likely the ph
[20:33] <lost_soul> plus you have the added bonus of the fact that people or sysadmins can log in and stilll see the command line interface of your program when they may not need all of the functionality but rather just to see the weather or something
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[20:35] <Bilby> true. I was just trying to cheat and see of anyone had already done it <_< much easier to use pre-debugged code >_>
[20:35] <Bilby> thanks
[20:36] <lost_soul> you could build some type of graphical interface too.. but that would be a bit more complex and slightly more limiting in that if someone wanted exernal access to it they would have to forward an X session or something
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[20:38] <Bilby> I might set up SSH on the machine but 95% of the time it's going to be running purely unattended
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[20:39] <lost_soul> having ssh enabled (especially on a system that will have no keyboard/mouse attached is almost a necessity)
[20:39] <lost_soul> even if it will hardly ever be accessed... you'll still need some way to send a shutdown or reboot command
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[20:41] <alitoch> hi guys, having a weird issue here
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[20:45] <lost_soul> Bilby: if you look you will likely find some php scripts to do some of what you need to.. other code you will have to write yourself
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[20:45] <lost_soul> or most likely will need to
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[20:46] <lost_soul> sup DanDare
[20:46] <DanDare> hello there lost_soul
[20:46] <lost_soul> how fowa
[20:46] <lost_soul> goes too
[20:46] <lost_soul> stupid keyboard
[20:46] <DanDare> hehe
[20:46] <DanDare> not bad at all, you ?
[20:47] <lost_soul> pretty well here, ty
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[20:47] <neutrino> s
[20:47] <Bilby> lost_soul yeah, rolling my own via php should be fairly simple. let me argue with cups first, haha
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[20:51] <neutrino> Bilby: ssh is sometimes a saviour on laptops when your screen goes boink ! and you need to get some files out
[20:51] <alitoch> is there a deluge pro around here ?
[20:51] <alitoch> i can access to my raspbian deluge server from web-ui, but for the life of me can't access it thru thinclient
[20:51] <alitoch> and since yarss2 doesnt support webui i'll need thinclient
[20:52] <alitoch> a bit of help would be greatly appreciated
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[20:54] <lost_soul> firewall blocking access, maybe?
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[20:54] <lost_soul> or maybe it is setup by default to only listen for connections on localhost
[20:55] <lost_soul> just two things that might be messing things up
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[21:28] <shiftplusone> woot, slice kickstarter a third of the way there
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[21:31] * [Saint] finds it hard to take kickstarter seriously these days
[21:32] <[Saint]> Even though there's a lot of fine (potential) products thereon, their refusal to curb the blatant abuse leaves me completely unwilling to back any more projects hosted there.
[21:34] <shiftplusone> this one is pretty much ready to go and I've seen a prototype in the flesh, so it's just a matter of getting the funding together to do the production
[21:35] <mang0> [Saint], what about other similar crowd funding stuff?
[21:35] <mang0> Stuff? Sites.
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> can't work out the difference between the �109 and �114 offers..
[21:35] <shiftplusone> turns out non-die-cast and non-extruder aluminium cases are pricey.
[21:36] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, no disk
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> they both have no disk.
[21:36] <shiftplusone> way
[21:36] <shiftplusone> nvrm
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> the wording is the same..
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[21:37] <gordonDrogon> I'd have thought machine from solid was the cheapest, but not the fastest...
[21:37] <shiftplusone> yeah, I can't see the difference
[21:37] <shiftplusone> nope, not the cheapest.
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> Hm.
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> there is waste milling, but that's 100% recyclable. just depends how much you get back on scrap..
[21:40] <shiftplusone> but in general, I have learned my lesson.... don't back things just because you like the idea.
[21:40] <DanDare> finally decided for a wifi adapter: TL-WN722N
[21:40] <shiftplusone> backed a few projects which absolutely did not deliver what they promised
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> I've only ever backed one thing like that - Ryans robot thing.
[21:40] <DanDare> (actually using a borrowed one)
[21:41] <DanDare> (and a couple of non working ones :/ )
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> I'm pondering over this - but I'm not a great "media" person.
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> I even have a ReelBox I've not plugged in yet.
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[21:43] <shiftplusone> aye, I'm not a media person either. but I do have a pi acting as a home server of sorts. I can throw a slice under the tv instead and have a torrent box, media player and mame going.
[21:43] <shiftplusone> Would just need a wireless controller for the emulators
[21:44] <lost_soul> last time I tried to configure emulators.. it was a real pita
[21:44] <lost_soul> has it got any better?
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> yea. I don't have internet in my living room. TV has a tube.
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> our livingroom is a bit anti-technology. it even has a roatary dial phone.
[21:45] <lost_soul> hahaha ^
[21:45] <shiftplusone> nothing wrong with a rotary phone
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> I have a freesat box and DVD player ...
[21:46] <shiftplusone> modern phones annoy me.... they need the regular phone plug AND a power adapter!? peh
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea how I'd run Ethernet to the back of the telly.
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[21:46] <james_olympus> gordonDrogon: Heh, my living room has a rotary phone too
[21:46] <shiftplusone> lost_soul, I don't know, I don't generally have trouble with these things, but you have things like picade which idiot-proof it completly, I think.
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, you have the wrong phones... apart from that one, all other phones are cordless.
[21:47] <shiftplusone> I'm talking about the base >_<
[21:47] <gordonDrogon> actually, my desk phone isn't cordless, but at least it's PoE.
[21:47] <gordonDrogon> ah, you get a phone system where the base is just a base - no phone.
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[21:48] <shiftplusone> meh, I'd rather go for a rotary phone.
[21:48] <gordonDrogon> so yes - my base has power & ethernet going into it, but it does not have a phone attached - so I can put the base in a good location with the phones just having their charging cradle.
[21:48] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, rotarys are fine - until you need to dial an 11-digit number, then "press 1 for sales" ...
[21:49] <lost_soul> shiftplusone: only ones I've used were zsnes and mame if memory serves
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[21:49] <shiftplusone> mame is a pain to set up properly
[21:49] <lost_soul> always seemed like the rom would play to fast, or to slow... setting up the controllers wasn't to bad
[21:49] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, ah yeah >_<
[21:50] <shiftplusone> O_o why is this thing better than most tts applications today? http://hackaday.com/2014/08/12/retrotechtacular-the-voder-from-bell-labs
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[21:50] <shiftplusone> I guess it's controlled by a human, so it doesn't count =/
[21:50] <shiftplusone> a year to learn to operate..... yeah, no.
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[22:01] <redeleven> What is the best music server software for the Pi?
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[22:03] <shiftplusone> music software to do what?
[22:03] <shiftplusone> but I vote mpd anyway
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[22:04] <silenius> hi, is there a guide how to uninstall one of the OS (NOOBS inbstall) and doing a resize of another without breaking it?
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[22:05] <silenius> i only ask, because i need more space, and have done quite a few driver modifications i dont want to lose..
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[22:05] <shiftplusone> If you don't know how to do it safely, I think you shouldn't do it. But you just fire up geparted on another computer, delete and resize as necessary, that modify the magic file which has all of the parameters of what NOOBS expects
[22:06] <silenius> shiftplusone, i know my way around parted, i just have no idea how the pi bootloader works^^
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[22:07] <silenius> care to elaborate which one the "magic" file is?
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[22:07] <shiftplusone> you'll know it when you see it, but I don't remember off the top of my head
[22:08] <shiftplusone> it's on a separate partition, IIRC
[22:08] <shiftplusone> so look at the tiny partitions, I think there should be 2
[22:08] <silenius> ok, thanks
[22:08] <shiftplusone> one for the firmware and NOOBS itself (actually that won't be tiny)
[22:08] <shiftplusone> and then one at the end, containing information of what's installed and where.
[22:08] <shiftplusone> I may have some of that wrong, but that's how I remember it working
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[22:26] <DanDare> silenius, a good option is making a full backup of the SD( with dd e.g.) before going to gparted of messing with partitions
[22:27] <DanDare> *or messing
[22:27] <silenius> DanDare, yeah, done that already^^
[22:27] <silenius> straught to hdd
[22:27] <silenius> *straight
[22:27] <DanDare> ah nice
[22:28] <DanDare> I usually also restore the image to another card to check everything is fine :p
[22:28] <DanDare> but, just another layer of paranoia anyway
[22:28] <lost_soul> pffft, no fun in that... where is your sense of adventure
[22:28] <lost_soul> just let err rip data be damned
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[22:29] <DanDare> ok, new wifi dongle on the hand. I hope this will be default (working) one from now
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[22:36] <Mr_Sheesh> Does anyone here have a newer RPi model B handy and a set of calipers? Client has mine ATM and I need to get an idea where the J6 (reset) pins are wrt the GPIO connector if I can
[22:36] <lost_soul> DanDare: the new wifi dongle all working and stable?
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[22:36] <DanDare> lost_soul, just unpacked it. Its TL-WN722N. This was a reference to buy this one http://itsacleanmachine.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/wifi-access-point-with-raspberry-pi.html
[22:37] <DanDare> supposedly works in AP mode, lets check then
[22:37] <lost_soul> DanDare: well stop your slacking and 'get er done' :)
[22:37] <DanDare> :)
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[22:38] <DanDare> for now, loaded the drivers but still nothing on iwconfig
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[22:41] <lost_soul> fail
[22:41] <Mr_Sheesh> I guess no one. I think from the nearest pins the two are 1.9" apart, just trying to check. Oh well
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[22:41] <DanDare> lost_soul, now this https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc
[22:41] <lost_soul> Mr_Sheesh: my Pi isn't handy atm, sorry
[22:42] <Mr_Sheesh> I'm looking for the early Model B but it doesn't have the J6 on it ofc :P NP not everyone's a HW/W dev LOL
[22:42] <Mr_Sheesh> er HW/SW
[22:43] <lost_soul> oh... I have a later model B anyways
[22:43] <lost_soul> DanDare: looks good, now get that puppy sending packets
[22:43] * DanDare tries
[22:44] <DanDare> :)
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[22:44] <lost_soul> man the job market here sucks
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[22:45] <Mr_Sheesh> lost_soul - If you can measure distance between the GPIO header and the J6 (reset) holes to add a header to (it's by C11) they should I think be 1.9 inches between the nearer pins, if I did proportions right off the scan I have; metric is fine too ofc :)
[22:46] <lost_soul> Mr_Sheesh: I did say my Pi isn't handy atm... I can measure it for you later though
[22:47] <DanDare> it works now. So lets try the ssh heavy traffic test, it will hang?
[22:47] <Mr_Sheesh> NP, TY in advance, lost_soul :)
[22:47] <lost_soul> or smoke
[22:48] <DanDare> it hangs a bit, but going. dont have a terminal to check if its reseting
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[22:52] <Mr_Sheesh> No explosion or fire, good enough for some jobs :P
[22:52] <lost_soul> DanDare: nice
[22:52] <lost_soul> yep
[22:53] <DanDare> yeah
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[22:56] <DanDare> I should have bought something like this instead of spending money on unbranded chinese stuff
[22:56] <lost_soul> live and learn man
[22:56] <DanDare> well, yeah
[22:57] <DanDare> a working chipset is not same as a working device :p
[22:57] <lost_soul> DanDare: just sell it on ebay... someone will buy it
[22:57] <lost_soul> at least you can recoupe some of your money
[22:57] <DanDare> Im not a good sales man
[22:58] <lost_soul> post an add and ship it... don't really need to be a good salesman
[22:58] <lost_soul> just list the information you can easily find online for it and your good
[22:59] <DanDare> not sure also if it has any value as a cheap used cheap unbranded trash.. that worth even the time i need to spend to sell it
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[23:00] <lost_soul> DanDare: do you work on pc's from your home? You could always sell it to someone who brings their computer to you
[23:00] <lost_soul> er... that wants wifi and doesn't have it
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[23:00] <lost_soul> though then you'ld still need to set it up.. but you might get lucky and have it on a windows system
[23:00] <DanDare> i dont work with computers, fortunately :)
[23:01] <DanDare> i got 2 wifi dongles, one of them isnt even capable to work flawless on windows
[23:01] <DanDare> its a fail, really
[23:01] <lost_soul> DanDare: well, I would argue that NOTHING works flawless on Windows
[23:02] <DanDare> for one of them, checking it, the antenna output is just tied to USB ground ....
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[23:02] <DanDare> lost_soul, now you have a point
[23:03] <lost_soul> DanDare: was their ever any doubt? :p
[23:03] <lost_soul> on second thought, don't answer that
[23:03] <DanDare> hehehe
[23:03] <DanDare> fact is: wireless stuff is commonly a pain on Linux
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[23:04] <DanDare> the generic drivers not always works... newly chips has bad support etc
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[23:04] <DanDare> when kernel version changes, thats a whole new terrain of trouble
[23:04] <shiftplusone> O_o
[23:04] <lost_soul> DanDare: always more issues when dealing with wireless... if not speed then security.. stability... All of those things is why I always run hardwired whenever possible
[23:04] <DanDare> I see
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[23:05] <DanDare> heh
[23:05] <shiftplusone> They all worked fine O_o
[23:05] <DanDare> you are a lucky guy
[23:05] <shiftplusone> had to compile modules for some and some didn't have hw decryption, but overall, they're all very similar
[23:05] <DanDare> test, ping, do something in one thing. daily usage is other thing
[23:06] <shiftplusone> No, this were very long iperf and daily usage tests.
[23:06] <DanDare> agreed, very similar
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[23:07] <DanDare> anyway, the fact here is: 2 unbranded dongles doesn't work, 2 branded dongles just works
[23:07] <DanDare> not a big sampling universe but Im done anyway
[23:07] <shiftplusone> hm
[23:08] <DanDare> for the non working ones i tried everything, compiling vendor's drivers, using stock ones etc, no success
[23:09] <shiftplusone> I suppose I should add that the ones I tested were mostly branded
[23:09] <DanDare> thats a important info IMO
[23:09] <shiftplusone> there were 2 non-branded, but they were the same and used a very common chipset
[23:09] <DanDare> no luck if the chipset is good but the device is bad, overall
[23:10] <shiftplusone> yeah, I'd always advise against getting random unbranded crap on ebay
[23:10] <DanDare> like I said, inspecting one of the dongles, the antenna output is just attached to USB ground, thats horrible
[23:10] <shiftplusone> O_o
[23:11] <Bilby> oh blarg. to get the drivers i need for the printers i need i have to compile from source because they don't offer arm-compiled driveres
[23:12] <DanDare> printers X linux: yet another source of headaches
[23:12] <Bilby> brother has a couple of nix driver options but they're all i386
[23:13] <DanDare> but once you get the printer and cups working together, thats really good
[23:14] <Bilby> I know and it'd be a good solution. Need to audit what printers are on the network and see how many drivers i'll have to build from scratch :/
[23:14] <DanDare> Bilby, what printer? What pi kernel? I can try giving my idle pi some task compiling the drivers you need
[23:15] <DanDare> Oh, nvm them if you know how to do it
[23:15] <shiftplusone> bah, you guys are spoiled. It wasn't that long ago that drivers for linux were non-existent for almost everything and getting the ones that do involved compiling from source.
[23:15] <Bilby> Yeah i have no clue other than "in theory"
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[23:15] <Bilby> XD
[23:15] <DanDare> :p
[23:16] <Bilby> I have a B with raspibian, right now i'm just trying to test with my brother mfc-7460DN
[23:16] <Armand> Weird name for a brother.. O_o
[23:16] * Armand ducks
[23:16] <Bilby> assuming a couple of things click together, I'll need to make at least a few printers at a client "google cloud print" capable
[23:16] <DanDare> They should put some info (updated ones) on wikipedia or anywhere on how to compile drivers for pi
[23:16] <Bilby> lol
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[23:16] <Bilby> Armand: not if your brothers can duplex in black and white :D
[23:17] <Armand> I'm not going to ask you to explain.... lol
[23:17] <DanDare> information is scattered, ranging from "you need to compile your kernel again" to "hey, this is how it can be done right"
[23:17] <Bilby> This --> http://www.brother-usa.com/MultiFunction/ModelDetail/4/MFC7460DN/overview#.U-qEb_ldWSo
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[23:19] <DanDare> Bilby, but really, I cant try compiling the drivers if you find it cool. But hang on, will get a reference that worked for me anyway
[23:19] <Bilby> DanDare if you happen to get bored and find any info on that andor do some compiling that'd be awesomesauce.
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[23:21] <DanDare> Bilby, will look about it. Anyway, this is what worked for me compiling kernel modules: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=49864
[23:21] <DanDare> Bilby, the post "by llad » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:54 pm"
[23:21] <DanDare> obviously you need to change versions/numbers and directories accordingly the setup you have
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[23:22] <DanDare> Bilby, so, first task is checking whenever the vendor supply source code of the drivers for linux
[23:22] <DanDare> if its a good brother or not
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[23:24] <DanDare> Bilby, they have deb and rpm drivers, but not the source I guess :(
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[23:25] <Bilby> DanDare i think they have it published somewhere
[23:25] <DanDare> Bilby, I found source codes for "CUPS wrapper Printer driver Source Codes"
[23:25] <DanDare> But not sure if its all you need ?
[23:26] <DanDare> http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=mfc7460dn_all&os=128
[23:26] <DanDare> and http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/index.html?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=mfc7460dn_all&redirect=on
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[23:27] <Bilby> DanDare thanks, i'll look in a sec. dang customers!
[23:27] <DanDare> ok
[23:28] <DanDare> Bilby, maybe worth asking on #linux if its possible to have a printer working using only a CUPS wrapper driver
[23:29] <Bilby> it doesn't tell you but it's i386 compiled :/
[23:29] <DanDare> Bilby, for the CUPS wrapper driver, they have the source code (the bottom of that page), thus maybe possible to compile for ARM/pi
[23:30] <Bilby> Okay, i'll check that out later. apparently we're now busy @_@
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[23:31] <DanDare> If just cups wrapper driver is not enough to the thing to work, maybe worth a try asking Brother if they can send you proper driver source code
[23:31] <DanDare> Bilby, IRC does not improve your efficiency at work !
[23:31] <Bilby> It does when 75% of my work is basic half-a-brain stuff
[23:32] <DanDare> :p
[23:32] <Bilby> when i'm not on IRC i'm playing TF2 :D
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[23:36] * Bilby dayjobs doing telephone support for a website
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[23:36] <Bilby> other than the occaisonal giant flustercluck it's really basic brainless stuff
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[23:38] <EL3PHANTEN> Hello Does anyone here know what I should do to log cookies. I have put this in my apache2.conf -> LogFormat "%{name}C" cookielog and then CustomLog /var/log/apache2/my-access.log cookielog... But All I get in the file is 127.0.0.1 - - [12/Aug/2014:23:13:50 +0200] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - "-" "Apache/2.2.22 (Debian) (internal dummy connection)" "-"
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[23:39] <dogmatic69> Hi all, what is the point of having 8/40 pins being ground?
[23:39] <Bilby> some of us like to get low?
[23:39] <dogmatic69> :)
[23:40] <dogmatic69> I dont understand why 1 or 2 even is not enough
[23:41] <DanDare> EL3PHANTEN, its not combined already within usual apache2 logs? If so.. you can have a script extracting the cookies part from the standard logs
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[23:41] <dogmatic69> eg: the arduino due has much more pins, only 4 are gnd
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[23:42] <shiftplusone> dogmatic69, engineering, that's why.
[23:42] <EL3PHANTEN> DanDare: No it is not
[23:42] <DanDare> dogmatic69, spare ground pins are always good, not a bad thing
[23:42] <dogmatic69> shiftplusone: 'because' is about the same answer...
[23:42] <shiftplusone> http://www.edaboard.com/thread27452.html
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[23:43] <DanDare> EL3PHANTEN, I suspect your question fits better on #apache channel. You may have a better support there for this
[23:43] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey
[23:44] <dogmatic69> shiftplusone: so it would be better practice to use different ones instead of stacking them up?
[23:44] <shiftplusone> definitely
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[23:44] <dogmatic69> quite a few reasons on that link, thanks
[23:45] <dogmatic69> seem like reasonable ones too
[23:45] <shiftplusone> of course it depends how the tracks are laid out
[23:45] <shiftplusone> if it's all a single trace, there's no point.
[23:46] <dogmatic69> ok
[23:46] <dogmatic69> and if they are all sharing one 5v?
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[23:46] <shiftplusone> but if you google something like why multiple ground pins or something, you'll find lots of answers
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[23:46] <shiftplusone> what do you mean by sharing one 5v? you means the devices you have attached use 1 5v pin, but different grounds?
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[23:48] <DanDare> I guess actual ground pins on GPIO bar have nothing to do with ARM ground pins. They are there more for a practical resource while connecting different stuff to pi
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[23:48] <dogmatic69> something like wallwart -> pi -> pcb1,2,3 all on 5v from the wall wart
[23:48] <shiftplusone> aye, but the same benefits apply
[23:48] <DanDare> true
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[23:49] <shiftplusone> dogmatic69, it makes more sense to just hook up gnd and 5v on one pin each.
[23:50] <dogmatic69> so should I connect each ground to my pcb that I am making
[23:50] <dogmatic69> ok
[23:50] <shiftplusone> nuh, if there's no reason to do so, don't do it.
[23:50] <shiftplusone> Leave them free for the user to hook up whatever they want
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[23:51] <DanDare> pi 5V pin passes trough the polyfuse also, right?
[23:51] <shiftplusone> nope
[23:51] <shiftplusone> well yeah
[23:51] <shiftplusone> depends on perspective
[23:52] <DanDare> from GPIO bar perspective
[23:52] <shiftplusone> if you power the pi through the 5v pin, you bypass the polyfuse. If you draw current from the 5v pin, you draw from the supply through the polyfuse.
[23:52] <DanDare> I see
[23:52] <DanDare> so stuff you attach is limited to 700mA (IIRC)
[23:53] <DanDare> overall, considering USB stuff attached, own ARM etc
[23:53] <shiftplusone> ish
[23:53] <DanDare> I mean, powering pi from the micro USB port
[23:53] <shiftplusone> it's a 1.2A polyfuse, isn't it?
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[23:54] <gordonDrogon> DanDare, current recommendations is to duplicate the input power circuit that's on the B+ for powering the Pi via the GPIO pins ...
[23:54] <DanDare> Oh sorry, Im not sure...
[23:54] <shiftplusone> The datasheet says 700mA, but that's either wrong or is the hold current
[23:54] <Bilby> yes, powering through the GPIO bypasses the polyfuse and power protection
[23:55] <DanDare> thanks gordonDrogon. For plain B, powering it on the micro USB port, whats the current limit for gpio 5V?
[23:55] <shiftplusone> wait... is hold current the right term here... I forget the names of the two points on polyfuses.... trip and.... something.
[23:55] <gordonDrogon> I think there was talk of upping the poly on the B/2 to 1200mA, but I'm not sure ...
[23:55] <shiftplusone> You should be able to tell what's on there by looking at the markings
[23:55] <gordonDrogon> DanDare, B+ is 2 amps - pretty sure it's still 700mA for the B/2.
[23:56] <DanDare> ok, thank you
[23:56] <shiftplusone> In any case, they take a while to warm up, so you can draw a fair bit more than 700mA for a while before it starts to kick in
[23:56] <gordonDrogon> the B/2 I have in-front of me suggest 700 - it's a 7x7 sort of symbol with one 7 upside down.
[23:57] <Mr_Sheesh> Model B is 1.1A polyfuse
[23:57] <DanDare> yeah, a green flat thing
[23:57] <maybethistime> the 7x7 thing looks like two letter V's opposite eachother rather than an x
[23:58] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, you sure that's not the littlefuse logo http://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/Images/Littelfuse/Site%20Logo/LFLogo_ILF.jpg.jpg ?
[23:58] <DanDare> polyfuse will just "shut off" if exceeded of it will start drawing less current accordingly?
[23:58] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, it's not that logo...
[23:59] <shiftplusone> curiosity got the best of me dug out my pi... yup, 700mA on mine too
[23:59] <DanDare> it a "7" wit 2 merging "V"'s, one upside down
[23:59] <shiftplusone> yup
[23:59] <DanDare> err. 2 "7" with merging V's
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