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IRC Log for 2014-08-15

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[0:00] <MY123> The newer phones should be able to be cutted in two to make two phones.
[0:00] <therion23> i have the Xperia tipo, it is really small and the sound quality is great
[0:00] <DanDare> not a bad idea, lego phone
[0:00] <MY123> The smartwatches are just garbage.
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[0:01] <joeelectricity> Hi everyone
[0:01] <MY123> Garbage (word): A thing that is useful for no one.
[0:02] <zleap> like MS windows
[0:02] <DanDare> ok, smartwatch, it really sounds useless. what it does? blink leds?
[0:02] <zleap> a device where you probably have to go through end less menus so it tells you the time
[0:03] <MY123> DanDare: A web browser on a one inch screen.
[0:03] <joeelectricity> I like my Pebble.
[0:03] <MY123> Fairly useless.
[0:03] <joeelectricity> I can read a text or email during class.
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[0:04] <MY123> joeelectricity: Talking about the Samsung one. Reading text in class is illegal.
[0:04] <DanDare> MY123, like it happened with phone: we will start having _big_ watches
[0:04] <zleap> yeah you could scale a website to that size and get that device to display just that info on the site
[0:04] <zleap> e,g temperature or something
[0:04] <MY123> DanDare: A 60inch gear.
[0:04] <joeelectricity> Sorry. I can imagine they’re a little unnecessary. A friend has one and it’s basically his phone with less functionality. At least the Pebble behaves like a normal watch.
[0:05] <MY123> joeelectricity: and can be used without a phone.
[0:05] <DanDare> MY123, look this watch: http://www.gizmag.com/microsoft-smartwatch/27065/
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[0:06] <DanDare> it can be useful, but its not cool, definitely :p
[0:06] <gordonDrogon> if you're afraid of spiders, don't look at this: http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20140814_212443.jpg
[0:06] <gordonDrogon> I think it's quite cute...
[0:06] * DanDare looks
[0:06] <joeelectricity> Yesiree. I am excited for more compact technology in the future that has functionality superior to current phones
[0:06] <gordonDrogon> I haven't worn a watch in .. decades ...
[0:07] <MY123> DanDare: That Windows Phone watch is .... Useless ....
[0:07] <DanDare> MY123, its very ugly I think
[0:07] <DanDare> gordonDrogon, same here ...
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[0:07] <DanDare> I just look into sun position
[0:07] <DanDare> (no joke)
[0:08] <MY123> DanDare: Same here in summer.
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[0:08] <gordonDrogon> you don't have a phone with a clock on it then?
[0:09] <DanDare> gordonDrogon, i have sure. But im not much 'time driven'.. unless not in terms of be checking time
[0:10] <DanDare> smartwatch from the past: https://brentallica.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/casio.jpg?w=106&h=141 those were cool
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[0:10] <MY123> DanDare: Did leave 15 days in the desert without electronics. ( and a few water).
[0:11] <MY123> *stay
[0:11] <DanDare> enough water?
[0:11] <DanDare> i can count days
[0:11] <MY123> DanDare: 2l per day.
[0:11] <DanDare> a cold desert, or a hot one ?
[0:11] <DanDare> or both?
[0:12] <DanDare> MY123, im out anyway....
[0:12] <MY123> DanDare: A hot one.
[0:12] * DanDare likes electronics
[0:13] <DanDare> MY123, thats easy. Hard would be being in north pole
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[0:13] * MY123 would like to kick Intel out of the market with their DRM thingy.
[0:13] <DanDare> without any way of measuring day/night cycles
[0:13] <MY123> They had invented HDCP.
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[0:15] <MY123> Windows is not secure if it's connected to WWW.
[0:16] <MY123> (And will never be )
[0:18] <DanDare> nothing is secure if its connected to WWW
[0:19] <MY123> DanDare: Except bare-metal audited programs in Ada.
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[0:32] <home> hey guys
[0:32] <home> anyone got streaming from their rpi camera working?
[0:32] <home> I am having mixed results and bad performance
[0:33] <home> i.e. my rpi freezing
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[0:38] <shiftplusone> home, powah
[0:40] <dogmatic69> Just getting started with some gpio and it seems that the values are not constant
[0:41] <dogmatic69> using 'watch -n1 gpio readall' the V is constantly switching between 0 / 1
[0:41] <dogmatic69> any idea why?
[0:41] <shiftplusone> what are they connected to?
[0:41] <shiftplusone> if answer is nothing, those are called floating inputs.
[0:41] <dogmatic69> I have 8 pins connected to a 4x4 matrix keypad
[0:41] <dogmatic69> 'all' are switching though
[0:42] <shiftplusone> are the switches open?
[0:42] <shiftplusone> If they are... then the pins are still not connected to anything
[0:43] <dogmatic69> I guess so...
[0:43] <shiftplusone> They need to be connected either to ground or 3.3v if you just have an open switch, there's no connection to ground
[0:43] <dogmatic69> Just following a tutorial :/
[0:43] <shiftplusone> which is where pulldown resistors come in
[0:43] <dogmatic69> ok, what sort of value?
[0:43] <shiftplusone> they are in the chip, you just need to enable them
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[0:44] <dogmatic69> ah...
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[0:44] <dogmatic69> I have in a for loop, GPIO.setup(ROW[i], GPIO.IN, pull_up_down = GPIO.PUD_UP)
[0:46] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf
[0:46] <dogmatic69> maybe the pins are different on b+ to this tutorial
[0:48] <shiftplusone> I don't do python for things like that, but at a glance, it seems sensible.
[0:48] <dogmatic69> shiftplusone: what do you use?
[0:48] <shiftplusone> C
[0:49] <dogmatic69> wiringPi?
[0:49] <shiftplusone> Yeah, but I don't need to use gpio much nowadays.
[0:49] <dogmatic69> first time using python and its weird...
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[0:59] <dogmatic69> ha, found the problem
[0:59] <dogmatic69> GPIO.BOARD vs GPIO.BMC
[0:59] <shiftplusone> Ah, I had a suspicion that might be it.
[0:59] <dogmatic69> the tutorial had GPIO.BMC as the config, which uses CPU number for the pins
[0:59] <dogmatic69> switched that and works great :)
[0:59] <shiftplusone> awesome
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[1:01] <fzombie> I need another cheap powered usb hub =( I hate small devices lacking usb power!
[1:01] <fzombie> anyone know of a good cheap one?
[1:01] <shiftplusone> lol
[1:02] <shiftplusone> there are very few good powered hubs out there and cheap isn't the right word for any of them
[1:02] <lost_soul> http://www.cnet.com/news/get-a-powered-7-port-usb-hub-for-9-99-shipped/
[1:03] <lost_soul> that one does pretty decent
[1:03] <lost_soul> only a 1A supply comes with it though (if memory serves)
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[1:13] <home_> I need help
[1:14] <home_> I can't use the raspberry pi camera for streaming
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[1:22] <home_> all these tutorials are assholes
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[1:27] <home_> hello
[1:27] <home_> GUYS hELP ME
[1:27] <home_> I AM AUTISTIC
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[1:30] <lost_soul> no need for capslock
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[1:32] <lost_soul> home_: rather than saying you can't use raspberry pi camera for streaming, how about giving some actual useful information. Such as when you followed these tutorials what went wrong or what you didn't understand.
[1:33] <home_> lost_soul, I don't want to use a RTMP server
[1:33] <home_> lost_soul, look at this:
[1:33] <home_> http://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/infrared-bird-box/WORKSHEET.md
[1:34] <lost_soul> home_: I've never setup a camera... but why is it you don't want to do what the instructions state to do? And precisely how does you not wanting to follow the instructions make whom ever wrote the tutorial an asshole? I would actually say the opposite is true.
[1:35] <home_> I never said the guy who wrote the tutorial was an asshole
[1:35] <home_> I said the tutorial is an asshole, since I Don't want to stream online, but locally do to performance issues.
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[1:37] <lost_soul> home_: okay, have you tried using that raspivid?
[1:38] <home_> yes
[1:38] <lost_soul> home_: regardless if you want to stream online or not you could still use that tutorial.. just use a localip for it
[1:39] <lost_soul> if you don't open a port on your router the stream will not be viewable from the web
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[1:45] <redeleven> Any cool raspberrypi distros to turn it into a music server for the house?
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[1:47] <lost_soul> redeleven: http://lesbonscomptes.com/pages/raspmpd.html
[1:47] <lost_soul> redeleven: http://lifehacker.com/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-private-streaming-mus-1583221462
[1:47] <lost_soul> lots of them... google not working for you?
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[1:48] <lost_soul> not really distros.. kind of a roll your own thing
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[1:48] <lost_soul> the only media centered distros around are raspbmc, openelec.. things such as that
[1:48] <lost_soul> and those aren't geared towards audio alone
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[2:05] <pksato> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwpftr7CpqM and others rpi radios...
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[4:29] <maybethistime> i just bought an edimax usb wifi adapter. is it possible to set up as a router which will assign ip addresses even if it has no connection?
[4:31] <maybethistime> i seem to have answered my own question
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[4:41] <dr4ke> Can I format my SD card via gdisk or only fdisk will work?
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[4:46] <DanDare> maybethistime, yeah its possible but the wifi adapter must support monitor mode. I suspect these small edimax (rt5370 chip) does not support it
[4:46] <DanDare> *AP mode
[4:47] <maybethistime> the chip in this usb is RTL8192CU
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[4:47] <maybethistime> i found a guide if anyone else is interested
[4:47] <maybethistime> http://ariandy1.wordpress.com/2013/04/07/setting-up-wifi-access-point-with-edimax-ew-7811un-on-raspberry-pi/
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[5:19] <abnormal> I use Ourlink wifi dongles, the ones look like USB mem sticks, not the ones that are smaller that look like wireless mouse blue tooth dongles...
[5:20] <abnormal> I got them from Adafruit.com
[5:20] <abnormal> these dongles are very rugged and do not fail..
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[5:47] <therion23> you will run into trouble with the RTL8192CU in Master mode though
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[5:48] <therion23> the stock linux driver crashes hostapd and the Realtek supplied ones only exist for x86 and x64 ..
[5:48] <therion23> oh he left
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[5:51] <abnormal> looks that way...
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[5:54] <abnormal> the pi can even use the ASUS wifi dongle.. but pi don't like netgear dongles at all.
[5:55] <therion23> oh, the 8192CU works out of the box with raspbian too, no need for additional firmware packages or anything
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[5:56] <therion23> it is only Master (access point) mode that chokes it .. or, well, the driver itself kinda ignores switching into Master mode which in turn confuses hostapd and makes that go into an infinite crash loop
[5:57] <abnormal> hmmm.. strange... I used to buy those WiPi wifi dongles and burnt two of them up, so that made me switch to the Ourlink dongles...
[5:58] <therion23> i got four of these for the price of two (ZyXel 2205's) which i couldn't say no to
[5:58] <DanDare> its not that easy to find one that will really work in AP mode
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[5:59] <therion23> the lowest-of-the-low wifi card, the Atheros 5007EG (which is in all 1st gen netbooks) works in host mode perfectly
[5:59] <DanDare> I mean, in terms of available options
[5:59] <therion23> but 54mbit is kinda yesteryear by now
[5:59] <DanDare> I have a 5yd dongle that works also
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[6:01] <therion23> even my hackintosh works with the 8192CU
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[6:50] * [Saint] is putting his totes mad cray-cray sewing skillz to the test.
[6:50] <[Saint]> I need to make a jacket for my kitten.
[6:50] <[Saint]> And I figured, hey, why not put a low power GPS reciever in there...?
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[6:51] <[Saint]> If I add a wireless module and an arduino, I can have my kitten do war-dri...errrr, war-pawing.
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[6:52] <cyberangel> quick question: I was letting my son play with my pi and he reset the root password. Now he can't recall it. Is there a way to reset it?
[6:52] <cyberangel> Bonus: I don't want to have to hook up the hdmi, can I reset it via ssh?
[6:52] <[Saint]> No one will suspect kitten ninja is hacking their wifi with her mad tech skillz.
[6:52] <cyberangel> saint: if you have the right batter, gps module and a um..big..collar
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[6:53] <cyberangel> you read the article on the cat war-pawing
[6:53] <[Saint]> nah, I can keep it fairly small.
[6:53] <[Saint]> I have all the materials required.
[6:53] <[Saint]> weighs about 40g all up.
[6:53] <[Saint]> I'm sorry, which?
[6:54] <cyberangel> let me find it.. it was on reddit and lashdot the other day
[6:55] <cyberangel> http://mobile-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/08/10/2156210/connected-collar-lets-your-cat-do-the-war-driving
[6:55] <[Saint]> cyberangel: regarding root password, yes, it is possible to reverse this if you can access the filesystem from another machine.
[6:55] <cyberangel> I have the SD card in my machine now
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[6:56] <[Saint]> If you can access /etc/password, you can either a: reverse the root password by reversing the hash, or b: generate a new, valid hash.
[6:56] <[Saint]> http://www.slashroot.in/how-are-passwords-stored-linux-understanding-hashing-shadow-utils
[6:56] <[Saint]> there's a start.
[6:57] <cyberangel> only dirs are ./slides and ./images
[6:57] <[Saint]> I...what?
[6:57] <cyberangel> yeah..odd, guess it boots a .img file
[6:58] <[Saint]> Ooooohhhh, this is NOOBs?
[6:58] <cyberangel> I thinks so, came with pi
[6:58] <[Saint]> If so, like...suck.
[6:58] <[Saint]> That makes it rather a bit more difficult.
[6:58] <cyberangel> lol, ok, I feel so much better
[6:58] <[Saint]> But, still possible.
[6:58] <[Saint]> You'll have to mount the image as a loopback filesystem.
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[6:59] <[Saint]> gooogle "mount .img as loopback filesystem"
[6:59] <[Saint]> then you can get to /etc/password, and then you can reverse the hash or generate a new one and insert it.
[7:00] <cyberangel> well, on a windows right now, but I can mount that file
[7:00] <[Saint]> But, it begs the question, is there any data on the image that is worth saving?
[7:01] <[Saint]> You may find it better to re-image the card with a "pure" Raspbian install (ie. not NOOBS), while you're in a position to do so.
[7:01] <cyberangel> well... I had things setup the way I wanted and I don't want to have o go through the hdmi
[7:01] <cyberangel> what si so bad about noobs?
[7:02] <[Saint]> Personally I just find the setup a bit weird. And it doesn't make any sense to me to have the additional images there (or the magic to boot them) if you're not actively using them.
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[7:02] <[Saint]> ...and even then I would posit that using multiple sdcards and separate images is a much better alternative.
[7:03] <cyberangel> true, but the idea was to make it easy to get going, which is always good to get people interested
[7:03] <cyberangel> lower the barrier and you get more people to try it out
[7:03] <Triffid_Hunter> cyberangel: last time I checked, most rpi distros don't have a root password set. they rely solely on sudo from your user account
[7:03] <cyberangel> thus making pi a more powerful tool with more leverage
[7:03] <cyberangel> triffid: this one uses it
[7:04] <[Saint]> True, but in reality, I honestly don't think it is any easier to use a NOOBS image than it is a "pure" Raspbian/Arch/Fedora/etc. image./
[7:04] <cyberangel> ricos
[7:04] <cyberangel> saint: it was nice for my son to see, who doesn't have much experience. I was also thining it would be a good start to help teach it to students
[7:04] * [Saint] locks the root password immediately on all distros he uses.
[7:04] <cyberangel> but if you know linux then it's needless overhead
[7:05] <[Saint]> There's never any good reason to be root.
[7:05] <Triffid_Hunter> heh, usually the first thing I do on boot is sudo -i
[7:05] <cyberangel> saint: ricos only uses root. not the best, but to toy with
[7:05] <cyberangel> I'm essentially being lazy, I don't want to have to hook this back to a video source
[7:05] * Benguin is now known as Benguin[ZzZ]
[7:05] <[Saint]> cyberangel: the idea there is that you'll create a less privileged user and lock root.
[7:06] <[Saint]> a loot of images dump you in root by default.
[7:06] <[Saint]> but that doesn't imply its a good idea to continue doing so.
[7:06] <[Saint]> In fact, its rather a bad idea. ;)
[7:06] <lost_soul> [Saint]: what do you think about this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASRock-Q1900-ITX-Intel-J1900-2-0GHz-DDR3-SATA3-USB3-0-A-V-GbE-Mini-ITX-/321429849981?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad6b6477d
[7:06] <cyberangel> saint: true
[7:06] <[Saint]> You should only give yourself the bare minimum permissions required.
[7:07] <cyberangel> saint: yeah, I know the drill
[7:07] <[Saint]> lost_soul: standard Intel run-of-the-mill Mini-ITX board.
[7:08] <[Saint]> Nothing impressive, but not overly crap.
[7:09] <steve_rox> i managed to make a mosfet work yay
[7:09] <cyberangel> sigh..I'll have to get off my ass and either redo the image or hook up the pi to some video
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[7:09] <lost_soul> [Saint]: well, a buddy of mine gave me the $100 buck he owes me.. With the budget restriction that motherboard was the only one I could find with the J1900 processor I believe you recommended.. Perhaps it wasn't you but I remember it was during a conversation we had it was recommended.
[7:10] <[Saint]> lost_soul: it wasn't me, no.
[7:10] <[Saint]> Also, remember you'll need to account for RAM in your pricing.
[7:10] <[Saint]> And a micro-ATX PSU.
[7:11] <lost_soul> [Saint]: yea, with 4gb ram it would eat the rest of the $100 bucks.. I could use a normal atx psu until I had the money for a small unit though couldn't I?
[7:11] <[Saint]> IIRC the J1900 can address up to 16GB of RAM
[7:11] <lost_soul> yes, it can do 16
[7:11] <[Saint]> yes, you could use another PSU if you wanted.
[7:12] <lost_soul> quad core 2.0ghz celeron processor
[7:12] <[Saint]> It'd be odd using a PSU that's ~4x the size of the mobo though, heh. :)
[7:12] <lost_soul> for what I have to work with I couldn't find much better.. Their was an asus that looked pretty nice but that cost the entire amount so I wouldn't have money for ram
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[7:13] <lost_soul> it would only be temporary.. I also can't afford a case to put it in if I go this route
[7:13] <[Saint]> reasonable linix support for the CPU.
[7:13] <lost_soul> so it boils down to doing this, or buying the new version of the pi and keep messing with that until I can actually afford a decent mini-itx htpc system
[7:14] * [Saint] just bought himself a WiFi Pineapple
[7:14] <[Saint]> https://hakshop.myshopify.com/products/wifi-pineapple
[7:15] <[Saint]> It is *bad ass*.
[7:15] * [Saint] can now hack *all the things*.
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[7:16] <[Saint]> (actually, I got it to safely punch holes through to my own network via untrusted public or private networks...but I *could* hack ALL THE THINGS!)
[7:16] <neutrino> hello ! .. whats the discussion on about ?
[7:16] <lost_soul> [Saint]: never even heard about them
[7:17] <[Saint]> lost_soul: its essentially a WiFi penetration testing kit in an incredibly mobile form factor.
[7:17] <cyberangel> wtf, can't mount the .img files on the sd card
[7:17] <[Saint]> It has a LOT of automated penetration tests.
[7:17] <[Saint]> Can be used for good.
[7:17] <[Saint]> ...or, evil.
[7:17] <lost_soul> [Saint]: nice, I bookmarked it to have a read later
[7:18] <[Saint]> I just got the Mk V Standard
[7:18] <[Saint]> It was $100 USD
[7:18] <[Saint]> https://hakshop.myshopify.com/collections/wifi-pineapple-kits/products/wifi-pineapple
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[7:19] <[Saint]> the Mk V Elite is significantly beefier and comes with a secure case.
[7:20] <lost_soul> [Saint]: are you planning on using that where you work.. or just to test your home network
[7:20] <neutrino> cyberangel: the raspbain image ?
[7:21] <neutrino> if you use GNU/linux based OS or a Mac you can use the dd command to burn the image to your sdcard
[7:21] <cyberangel> yes
[7:22] <neutrino> syntax -> dd if=<imagefile> of=/dev/sdb
[7:22] <cyberangel> I was just looking to mount it to change the root password
[7:23] <cyberangel> used noobs which was on the sd card, but now can't get into image to reset password
[7:23] <cyberangel> just frustrating
[7:23] <neutrino> oh ..
[7:23] <[Saint]> lost_soul: I'll be carrying it around with me, along with a bluetooth LTE/2G/2G modem, as well as a 20W 10,000mAh battery pack, and a 4TB external disk.
[7:23] <[Saint]> It's my "phone home" package.
[7:23] <[Saint]> It allows me to punch a hole through pretty much any active network and phone home with an encrypted tunnel.
[7:24] <lost_soul> nice
[7:24] <[Saint]> useful for deploying tasks on untrusted networks.
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[7:24] <cyberangel> well, I'll just hook it up and go through recovery
[7:25] <[Saint]> All that fits in a man-bag/satchel.
[7:25] <neutrino> cyberangel: dont know how they implement noobs .. , ive had no trouble moutning my sdcard on my lappy , i didnt use noobs i got the image of the
[7:25] <neutrino> OS i wanted and burnt it
[7:25] <[Saint]> So, in theory, I can just walk around the city center cracking wireless networks in a mattery of seconds.,
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[7:25] <[Saint]> But my use case for it is vastly different.
[7:26] <[Saint]> Someone could very easily purchase one and use it for evil, though.
[7:26] <neutrino> are you able to see block device sdb in /dev ?
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[7:26] <neutrino> what does "ls /dev | grep sd " say ?
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[7:27] <[Saint]> neutrino: yeah - I'm not entirely sure either, but sure enough to state that NOOBS is a very different creature.
[7:27] <neutrino> [Saint]: why dont people just get the image of the OS they want and burnt it
[7:28] <[Saint]> NOOBS is "easier". :-/
[7:28] <[Saint]> (...yeah yeah, I know, you don't need to tell me. ;))
[7:28] <cyberangel> noobs was designed as a "get to know your pi" os
[7:28] <cyberangel> it allows yo tou try out various distros
[7:28] <cyberangel> it has a quick setup
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[7:29] <cyberangel> yes, if you know what one you want it's needless overhead
[7:29] <neutrino> so cyberangel does the card turn up in /dev ?
[7:31] <cyberangel> neutrino: what are you asking?
[7:33] <neutrino> run this and tell me the output
[7:33] <neutrino> ls /dev | grep sd
[7:35] <cyberangel> I woudl have to load up my linux vm or reboot into it. Under windows atm
[7:36] <cyberangel> doesn't matter I guess just going to dl Raspbian
[7:36] <therion23> wouldn't it be called mmcblk-something?
[7:36] <neutrino> ah okay
[7:36] <neutrino> yes on the pi i suppose it would go by that name
[7:37] <therion23> also on my i386 debian
[7:37] <therion23> unless of course i use an usb adapter
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[7:38] <neutrino> hmmm therion23 how is the sdcard reader connected internally on your i386 debain ?
[7:38] <neutrino> im pretty sure my sdcard reader on the lappy is internally connected to the usb
[7:38] <therion23> it is an integrated card reader on a netbook
[7:39] <neutrino> does it show up on lsusb ?
[7:39] <therion23> shows on lspci, not lsusb
[7:39] <neutrino> ah .. okay thats why
[7:40] <therion23> it is one of those old first gen netbooks with two card readers
[7:41] <therion23> of the internal devices, only the webcam is hooked up to usb
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[7:44] <CyberAngel> #@$#@ laptop
[7:44] <CyberAngel> just lost the disk recovery I was working on
[7:46] <CyberAngel> I'm making quite a bit of work for myself for being lazy
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[7:49] <CyberAngel> wonder if it would be wiser to use arduino for a quadcopter or a pi
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[7:50] <neutrino> well if you want a cam on your quadchopper then the pi is necessary
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[7:50] <CyberAngel> it would be easier to program and add sensors on the pi, but the overhead is higher
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[7:50] <CyberAngel> neutrino: no, I have seen it done with arduino
[7:51] <CyberAngel> but it's much easier with pi
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[7:51] <neutrino> camera on arduino ?!
[7:52] <CyberAngel> yeah, haven't looked at the setup but spoke to a few multicopter guys who said that is what they use
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[7:52] <CyberAngel> there is a special multicopter setup for it and all
[7:52] <DanDare> well, much more sources of possible issues using a pi than arduino
[7:53] <DanDare> (imo)
[7:54] <CyberAngel> DanDare: I agree, but battery life and weight are a big concern on these
[7:54] <CyberAngel> 15 min to dl raspbian
[7:54] <CyberAngel> wtf
[7:54] <DanDare> so, also that. arduino consumes much less and height much less than pi
[7:55] <DanDare> *weight :/
[7:55] <CyberAngel> that is my problem
[7:55] <CyberAngel> I want to use the full power of pi, but it will cost me weight and bettery life even if I don't use it
[7:55] <CyberAngel> for anything but flying
[7:56] <DanDare> so, get a arduino or ardupilot
[7:56] <DanDare> I think ardupilot cames with everything you need. I guess no need to even program it
[7:57] <CyberAngel> it's a stupid dilenma
[7:57] <CyberAngel> you fly?
[7:57] <DanDare> it has default flight modes etc, its a cool thing
[7:57] <DanDare> no, not yet !
[7:58] <DanDare> been postponing this for ages already :(
[7:59] <DanDare> if you want to stream video from the quad in real time, just use some video transmitter
[7:59] <CyberAngel> I started with a Husban x4 to get used to flying. Cheap entry point
[7:59] <CyberAngel> it was recommended because it costs less and works well
[7:59] <DanDare> sweet
[7:59] <CyberAngel> been having tons of fun with it
[8:00] <CyberAngel> just flipped it to expert mode last week
[8:00] <DanDare> My plan is about building some "huge" one
[8:00] <CyberAngel> now I can flips and tricks
[8:00] <DanDare> cool
[8:00] <CyberAngel> start small
[8:00] <CyberAngel> cheap, you WILL crash it
[8:00] <CyberAngel> get used to it before you invest money
[8:00] <CyberAngel> that is the one thing they kept repeating
[8:00] <CyberAngel> and I now know why
[8:01] <DanDare> well, im used to fly normal R/C planes
[8:01] <CyberAngel> sucks to have your $400 drone crash first time out
[8:01] <DanDare> though its been ages since last time
[8:01] <CyberAngel> never flown those, but I'm told it's a bit different
[8:01] <DanDare> its harder than quads imo
[8:01] <CyberAngel> in some ways easier, but it has extra axis to worry about
[8:01] <DanDare> yeah
[8:01] <DanDare> its just different
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[8:02] <DanDare> pros/cons
[8:02] <CyberAngel> pick up an x4 and try it out for a bit, then build your own
[8:02] <DanDare> ok
[8:02] <CyberAngel> you can get a rtf for about $60 on amazon
[8:02] <CyberAngel> order the crash kit and some extra batteries too
[8:02] <DanDare> sounds like a good idea, really
[8:02] <DanDare> heh
[8:03] <CyberAngel> crash kit has extra reg battery, rotors, motors and case
[8:03] <CyberAngel> order bigger batteries with it.. I got 5 for about $7
[8:03] <DanDare> I see
[8:03] <CyberAngel> they run down fast
[8:03] <DanDare> yeah, like 5~8 minutes ?
[8:04] <CyberAngel> if you are impatient you can even get a cable to charge up to 5 at once
[8:04] <CyberAngel> the larger ones about 15
[8:04] <DanDare> ok
[8:04] <CyberAngel> I was at a local park the other day with my son and we were flying it around at dusk. Hawk swooped in a almost grabbed it
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[8:05] <steve_rox> must add defences to aircraft :-P
[8:05] <steve_rox> tiny minigun
[8:05] <CyberAngel> lol
[8:05] <DanDare> CyberAngel, haahah
[8:05] <steve_rox> fit some light weight cam on it
[8:05] <DanDare> I bet you son loved it
[8:05] <CyberAngel> the only reason I still have it was the battery was low and it starting losing height
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[8:06] <CyberAngel> you can get it qith a cam
[8:06] <CyberAngel> mine has one, and it was still under $60
[8:06] <Mr_Sheesh> recoilless rifle vs hawk :p
[8:06] <CyberAngel> well he is 17, so he and I laughed at it
[8:06] <steve_rox> i was almost tempted to buy a cheap drong thing but with the flight time of 9 mins its kinda bad
[8:06] <steve_rox> e
[8:07] * [Saint] wonders what on earth possessed him to decide to form somewhat of a career from UI/UX design.
[8:07] <CyberAngel> Saint: you were posessed by a daemon
[8:07] <[Saint]> The only thing its taught me over the past few years, is that every user, ever, is a _complete_ retard.
[8:07] <steve_rox> called apple
[8:08] * [Saint] is now known as [Sinner]
[8:08] <CyberAngel> ack, you do apple design?!
[8:08] <[Sinner]> <-- possessededed...ed
[8:08] <[Sinner]> CyberAngel: indeed not.
[8:08] <steve_rox> my words were theory
[8:08] <CyberAngel> I thought it was bad that I did WIndows server work.. but Apple?!
[8:08] <CyberAngel> oh good
[8:09] <[Sinner]> I would rather stab myself in the face.
[8:09] <steve_rox> nice
[8:09] <CyberAngel> that is the correct response. Survey says.....?
[8:09] <[Sinner]> Mind you, a gig with Cupertino's design crew would look frikken' great on my CV.
[8:09] <[Sinner]> I'm not sure I could deal with the moral turmoil however.
[8:10] <[Sinner]> A fat pay cheque would help towards that though I would posit.
[8:10] * [Sinner] is now known as [Saint]
[8:11] <CyberAngel> man it's 2am already
[8:11] <steve_rox> 7.11am
[8:11] <steve_rox> sleep is hard work
[8:12] <CyberAngel> why is it that there are never good coversations during the day, forcing me to stay up till morning
[8:12] <CyberAngel> steve: England?
[8:12] <steve_rox> yea
[8:13] <CyberAngel> I'd move there to get away from these crazy people in the states, but I don't like tea
[8:13] <steve_rox> gonna fall sleep on this lappy
[8:13] <CyberAngel> so, I'm stuck
[8:13] <steve_rox> haha
[8:14] <[Saint]> saint@saint-terminal-22:~$ date
[8:14] <[Saint]> Fri Aug 15 18:13:35 NZST 2014
[8:14] * [Saint] is in the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuture (echo..echo...echo...)
[8:14] <CyberAngel> damn underworlders
[8:14] <[Saint]> :)
[8:15] <CyberAngel> stop poking your heads up and man those steam engines!
[8:15] <CyberAngel> the world needs more energy!
[8:15] <CyberAngel> I wouldn't mind nz. but expensive to get things there
[8:16] <[Saint]> The average wage mitigates this.
[8:16] <CyberAngel> well, at least some places does that
[8:16] <[Saint]> I'm on $32.70p/h presently.
[8:16] <CyberAngel> fking idiots here are loweing the wages so the rich can make more
[8:17] <[Saint]> Ms [Saint] is on $28.50p/h
[8:17] <[Saint]> We do ok.
[8:17] <[Saint]> Considering we both do ~40-60h working weeks.
[8:18] <[Saint]> Mind you, our rent is $520p/w
[8:18] <CyberAngel> pffft.. most comapnies here get around that by claiming someone is salaried and making them "exempt" from overtime
[8:18] <CyberAngel> so 60 hours pays the same as 40
[8:18] <[Saint]> It 'aint cheap to live in a nice apartment in the city center.
[8:19] <[Saint]> CyberAngel: where's "here"?
[8:19] <CyberAngel> United states
[8:19] <[Saint]> Ah...home of the (snicker) free.
[8:19] <CyberAngel> work help desk? exempt
[8:19] <CyberAngel> work it, expempt
[8:19] <CyberAngel> work office? exempt
[8:20] <CyberAngel> we have the best givernment that you can buy
[8:20] <CyberAngel> if you're a coporation
[8:20] <[Saint]> When I negotiated my contract I made it absolutely certain that under no terms was I going to accept a sallery
[8:20] <CyberAngel> ok, so you're an exception?
[8:20] <[Saint]> I also negotiated Ms. [Saint]'s contract.
[8:21] <[Saint]> Though, hers was a lot easier to negotiate, as they specifically sought her out to work at that place of business.
[8:21] <CyberAngel> did you include a clause that she had to perfom certain "tasks" for you?
[8:21] <[Saint]> So she could've asked for a pony if she wanted, really.
[8:21] <[Saint]> CyberAngel: Hahahaha...errrr, no. ;)
[8:22] <CyberAngel> well, live and learn
[8:22] <[Saint]> Maybe with Ms. [Saint] mk. 2
[8:22] <CyberAngel> upgrades!!!
[8:22] * [Saint] looks over his shoulder expecting to be cuffed in the ear
[8:22] <CyberAngel> get a cybernetic eye with mk2!
[8:22] <CyberAngel> maybe rocket boots?
[8:23] <CyberAngel> tell her you aint hers until you see that ring on your finger!
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[8:25] * CyberAngel pokes Saint to see if he alive after his Ms comment.
[8:25] <CyberAngel> well, I think we lost another one boys
[8:27] <CyberAngel> ok, loaded raspbian and booting, cross your toes!
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[8:27] <steve_rox> zz
[8:27] <steve_rox> zzzz]
[8:28] <gordonDrogon> morning ...
[8:30] <CyberAngel> does raspbian have ssh on by default?
[8:31] <CyberAngel> oh wait, crap! forgot I woudl have to setup wireless..doh!
[8:31] <CyberAngel> well plug it in and try again
[8:32] <gordonDrogon> yes, Raspbian has sshd enabled by default.
[8:35] <[Saint]> Yessum.
[8:35] <CyberAngel> he's back from the dead!
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[8:40] <RoBo_V> hey techTalkers, Morning !
[8:40] <CyberAngel> yes, almost time for bed
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[8:40] <CyberAngel> :)
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[8:42] <CyberAngel> So, Saint, you write us a nice UI for Raspi?
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[8:49] <CyberAngel> man raspbian doesn't find any wifi networks.. other distro did
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[8:59] <CyberAngel> how do you enable ipv6 on raspbian?
[9:00] <gordonDrogon> Put ipv6 into /etc/modules.
[9:01] <gordonDrogon> or un-comment it in /etc/modprobe.d/ipv6.conf
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[9:03] <CyberAngel> ok have alias net-pf-10 off
[9:03] <CyberAngel> #alias ipv6 off
[9:03] <gordonDrogon> I normally just stick ipv6 into /etc/modules.conf though... easier.
[9:03] <CyberAngel> I assume I uncomment the second and change to on
[9:03] <CyberAngel> ok
[9:04] <CyberAngel> no modules.conf
[9:04] <gordonDrogon> er, /etc/modules
[9:05] <gordonDrogon> then just: sudo modprobe ipv6 and you'll have ipv6 (if your LAN supports it)
[9:06] <CyberAngel> yes lan supports it
[9:06] <CyberAngel> ok got it
[9:07] <CyberAngel> now to setup apache with ipv6
[9:08] <CyberAngel> #@$#@ can't find package.. wtf
[9:09] <CyberAngel> maybe it's just late
[9:09] <gordonDrogon> it's early in this family friendly UK ...
[9:09] <CyberAngel> early here too..3am
[9:09] <CyberAngel> you brits already got your wanking 8 hours
[9:10] <gordonDrogon> keep it polite please.
[9:10] <CyberAngel> sorry, didn;t realize it was that offensive, I should stop watching bbc america
[9:10] <gordonDrogon> Channel Rules as of 6 May '14: http://tiny.cc/h7za1w
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[9:14] <CyberAngel> yes, apache up and running with ipv6
[9:16] <gordonDrogon> not that hard these days.
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[9:19] <CyberAngel> true, but since I don't have ipv6 through verizon, I had to setup a tunnel with a broker
[9:19] <CyberAngel> so that took a bit
[9:20] <gordonDrogon> ok
[9:20] <gordonDrogon> I'm lucky to have native IPv6 here.
[9:21] <gordonDrogon> and most of my servers are on ipv6 too.
[9:21] <CyberAngel> I just got mine up with broker, now I'm trying to get server available to outside via ipv6
[9:21] <gordonDrogon> however right now my kitchen calls and I have bread to bake.
[9:21] <CyberAngel> well, imporatnt t hings first!
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[9:25] <DigiSaint> good morning everyone!
[9:26] <CyberAngel> hello Digi
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[9:30] <CyberAngel> anyone besides grodon have ipv6 enabled?
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[10:06] <RoBo_V> Guys can we assign global ip to transmission client via dynamic DNS server
[10:12] <Triffid_Hunter> RoBo_V: dynamic DNS assigns hostnames to an existing ip address, DHCP or PPP assigns IP addresses
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[10:19] <Tenebrous> bah, didn't manage to solve my stuttering audio issues last night :<
[10:19] <Tenebrous> however, the one thing i didn't try was removing the usb bluetooth adapter, which i read can cause that issue
[10:21] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah usb anything on rpi gives it a hard time, which is problematic since the ethernet is usb
[10:21] <Tenebrous> right
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[10:21] <Tenebrous> not using ethernet, just had bluetooth & wifi plugged in. only thought to remove the wifi, which didn't fix it. didn't try the bluetooth (since i didn't have a wired keyb at the time)
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[10:23] <Tenebrous> i may end up just putting some switches on the case to enable/disable wifi & bluetooth
[10:24] <Tenebrous> an example of the audio problem i have is that, if i run a spectrum game in FUSE, it's generally 'ok', very slight audio stutter. when i SSH in over the Wifi and do something that scrolls the screen, the audio appears to cut out for every screen scroll. which pointed me to the Wifi/USB thing
[10:24] <RoBo_V> Triffid_Hunter: so is it possible with dynamic DNS assigned host names ?
[10:26] <Triffid_Hunter> RoBo_V: if you want what I think you want, yeah.. ddns client and a port forward
[10:26] <RoBo_V> I want to make my transmission available out of my local n/w via dynamic DNS if possible
[10:27] <RoBo_V> As of now I have extablished SSH out of my local n/w on my pi via dynamic DNS itself
[10:27] <RoBo_V> and transmission running finr locally
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[13:43] <Tenebrous> i appear to have created some Teensy firmware to map the zx spectrum keyboard membrane to usb keyboard commands... but no way to test it as i don't have my raspi, or my teensy, or my zx spectrum keyboard here :D
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[13:58] <Sakyl> Hey there. Got a problem with my pi. I restarted it a couple of days ago and now it turns on, all lights are blinking correct but it doesn't popup in the router and doesn't get a ip. I have backup off all configs, so i reflashed it with raspian again, but it won't show up and won't get an IP.
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[14:01] <shiftplusone> sounds like a network problem more than anything else
[14:02] <shiftplusone> Oh, he left anyway
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[14:25] <zamba> hi.. can someone please give some insight to raspberry pi and the usage of SD cards?
[14:26] <zamba> because they're failing for me everywhere
[14:27] <shiftplusone> zamba, Not much information to go on there. Failing in what way? Are you shutting down and restarting properly or just yanking the power out? What version of the firmware are you running? What distro? Are you running anything special like a database on there?
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[14:27] <zamba> input/output error
[14:27] <shiftplusone> also, where did you get the card and what brand is it
[14:27] <zamba> shiftplusone: these are PIs running continously
[14:28] <zamba> no database, no
[14:28] <zamba> just a kiosk computer
[14:28] <zamba> for rotating web pages
[14:28] <shiftplusone> and firmware version? (vcgencmd version)
[14:29] <RoBo_V> if anyone get transmission webGUI working over putty SSH tunnel ?
[14:29] <zamba> can't check that now, because it has died - again
[14:29] <zamba> this is the third device it happens on
[14:30] <shiftplusone> zamba, things to look at: Is the firmware recent enough? Are the cards branded, sensibly priced and from a reliable source? Any intermittent power issues?
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[14:33] <zamba> shiftplusone: verbatim 4 GB class 10
[14:33] <zamba> and what is it about the PI and power cycling it?
[14:33] <shiftplusone> what do you mean?
[14:33] <zamba> you have to do that several times before you actually get a picture?
[14:33] <shiftplusone> no, absolutely not.
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[14:38] <zamba> well, i have to
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[14:39] <shiftplusone> So... sounds like you've got some other, more serious problems there.
[14:40] <ExeciN> How do I backup my SD contents? There should be a faster way rather using dd to backup a 16GB SD card that has only ~4 GB occupied
[14:41] <shiftplusone> ExeciN, using linux or do you need to use windows?
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[14:41] <ExeciN> shiftplusone: I can use linux, windows or OS X
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[14:42] <shiftplusone> partclone
[14:42] <ExeciN> shiftplusone: does partclone care about empty space?
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[14:42] <benny-> tar czvf backup.tgz /path/to/mounted/sdcard/*
[14:43] <shiftplusone> partclone will backup just what's needed, not the empty space.
[14:43] <ExeciN> cool thanks
[14:43] <Jusii> ExeciN: here's one blog post about that http://sysmatt.blogspot.fi/2014/08/backup-restore-customize-and-clone-your.html
[14:43] <Jusii> basic idea, just backup the files
[14:43] <Jusii> but gotta go
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[15:36] <ExeciN> I am using a 320x240 TFT display. Every window is cut off. Is there a way to scroll through the contents of a window instead of dragging the window in LXDE?
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[15:38] <shiftplusone> isn't using X on such a display madness in the first place?
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[16:05] <ExeciN> is there a desktop environment that lets you scroll through window contents? (and resize the window to lower sizes for that matter)
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[16:09] <MY123> ExeciN: E17 ?
[16:10] <ExeciN> MY123: I thought of enlightenment but I believe I'll face all kinds of trouble bringing it to Raspbian
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[16:11] <MY123> ExeciN: Works well with Wayland EGL, did compile it.
[16:11] <ExeciN> I'm gonna give it a try
[16:12] <MY123> ExeciN: You should also recompile Weston and use the modified userland ver. .
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[16:13] <ExeciN> MY123: is there any guide?
[16:14] <MY123> ExeciN: No. Just on the mailing list of Enlightenment.
[16:14] <ExeciN> I better save this conversation then
[16:15] <MY123> ExeciN: Wait. Will find the Gmane link.
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[16:18] <MY123> ExeciN: another one which describes the process : http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.enlightenment.devel/56224
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[16:25] <ExeciN> MY123: cool thanks
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[16:51] <Tenebrous> anyone running FUSE / other emulators on the pi? with sound?
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[17:17] <therion23> Tenebrous, i could install it and try to replicate your issue if that could help
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[17:21] <neutrino> should we get a bot for this channel ?
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[17:21] <IT_Sean> ... ... ... No.
[17:22] <neutrino> ? :/
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[17:22] <neutrino> we wont include rude automated replies . okay ! ?
[17:22] <IT_Sean> IRC Bots are not permitted in #raspberrypi without written approval from a channel staff member. Channel staff reserve the right to revoke this permission at any time. Unauthorized bots are subject to removal and / or banning without warning.
[17:23] <shiftplusone> bots haven't faired well here
[17:23] <neutrino> im asking for an official bot
[17:23] <neutrino> not unauthorised ones
[17:23] <shiftplusone> I'm sure as hell not maintaining a bot
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[17:23] <shiftplusone> If we actually get a higher volume of questions which can be easily answered by a bot, maybe. But for now, there's just no need.
[17:23] <neutrino> okay
[17:23] <IT_Sean> ^ that, basically.
[17:24] <IT_Sean> They cause more problems than they solve.
[17:24] <neutrino> cool
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[17:24] <shiftplusone> It's one of those things that if you want done right you need to do yourself... and none of us want to do it.
[17:25] <IT_Sean> Any "official" bot would be maintained by a channel staffer, and, tbh... none of us want the bother.
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[17:28] <Tenebrous> therion23: don't put yourself out, but i'm trying to narrow down my choppy sound issue
[17:29] <Tenebrous> i /think/ it's caused a couple of things, one being the bluetooth usb adapter
[17:30] <Tenebrous> second thing being the adafruit TFT, which applies a kernel patch and updates the firmware... i think it's messing up the firmware somehow.
[17:31] <Tenebrous> er, i'm using fuse-sdl too, not the X system one
[17:31] <therion23> that is what i just installed
[17:31] <Tenebrous> cool
[17:31] <therion23> hang on, gotta find a USB keyboard
[17:31] <Tenebrous> that's ok, tyt, i appreciate it
[17:34] <Tenebrous> what model pi do you have btw
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[17:35] <therion23> B rev 2
[17:35] <Tenebrous> +?
[17:35] <therion23> non +
[17:35] <Tenebrous> cool
[17:37] <Tenebrous> my choppy sound is made more prominent when i am also SSH'd in and so something that scrolls the screen a lot, like a ps -eaf or similar
[17:37] <Tenebrous> do something*
[17:38] <therion23> fuse won't run though
[17:38] <therion23> "error initialising"
[17:38] <Tenebrous> via SSH or directly on it?
[17:38] <therion23> on console
[17:38] <Tenebrous> hmm
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[17:38] <Tenebrous> did you compile it or just download it?
[17:38] <therion23> just from apt
[17:39] <Tenebrous> did you also install fuse-emulator-roms ?
[17:39] <Tenebrous> (just googling)
[17:40] <Tenebrous> oh, well you'd get an error that said it couldn't find a rom
[17:40] <therion23> that package doesn't exist
[17:42] <therion23> i have fuse-emulator-common and -sdl
[17:42] <therion23> oh, runs as root
[17:42] <Tenebrous> OH
[17:43] <Tenebrous> -OH +oh
[17:43] <Tenebrous> hmm
[17:43] * Tenebrous shrugs
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[17:43] <therion23> weird, i am member of all the groups i should be for using the console framebuffer
[17:43] <therion23> oh well, lemme find some tzx files
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[17:44] <Tenebrous> here: ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinclair/games/e/Exolon.tzx.zip
[17:44] <Tenebrous> that one plays 128k music after it loads, good time to test the choppiness
[17:44] <Tenebrous> (i'm sure you can find others but i just happened to have that link)
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[17:47] <neutrino> what do the two conponets labeled F1 and F2 do .. i read they are fuses , so do they like burn out when the usb draws too much current ?
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[17:50] <neutrino> do usb devices turn up as sda in /dev ?
[17:51] <therion23> i am not having terribly much luck loading things in 128 mode
[17:51] <Tenebrous> hmm
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[17:51] <Tenebrous> is it requiring that you 'press play' on the tape when you use the tape loader? there's some settings etc to automate that but i forget
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[17:52] <Tenebrous> here's a .z80 file that might work (48k) ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinclair/games/m/MentalBlock.z80.zip
[17:53] <Tenebrous> that has lovely buzzy music when it loads
[17:53] <Tenebrous> (it's actually my game too! lol)
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[17:55] <therion23> with tzx files it autoloads
[17:55] <Tenebrous> k
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[17:57] <therion23> tried Glider Rider and Skate Crazy cos they have music right away
[17:57] <therion23> but both crash
[17:57] <Tenebrous> cool
[17:57] <Tenebrous> not cool
[17:57] <therion23> okay, Exolon loads and plays now
[17:57] <Tenebrous> righty
[17:58] <therion23> so, what do you do in order to chop audio?
[17:58] <Tenebrous> well, it's a little choppy to start with all the time
[17:58] <Tenebrous> not excessively so but a little
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[17:59] <Tenebrous> then i can SSH into it from elsewhere, do something that scrolls the screen a lot
[17:59] <Tenebrous> ps -eaf usually does it for me
[17:59] <therion23> yeah i see
[17:59] <therion23> i did "find /" and it jitters like mad
[17:59] <Tenebrous> ah good
[17:59] <Tenebrous> was that over wifi?
[17:59] <therion23> yes
[18:00] <Tenebrous> hmm
[18:00] <therion23> funny enough, subsequent "find /" gives no jitter
[18:00] <therion23> so i figure sd card reads are one cause
[18:00] <Tenebrous> oh. maybe sd card access then? which is now cached?
[18:00] * Tenebrous nods
[18:00] <therion23> yeah in my case that is my best guess
[18:00] <Tenebrous> that is a good point, i hadn't considered that
[18:00] <therion23> lets try updatedb
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[18:01] <Tenebrous> that's just cpu intensive right? not a huge amount of visible output
[18:01] <therion23> yeah, no jitter, find just cached the whole dir structure
[18:01] <Tenebrous> hmm very interesting
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[18:02] <Tenebrous> also very odd
[18:02] <therion23> dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1024 | strings
[18:02] <therion23> no jitter at all
[18:02] <Tenebrous> yeah, so it's not a CPU load problem
[18:02] <therion23> its not a screen prob either
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[18:03] <Tenebrous> are you using an HDMI screen?
[18:03] <therion23> old tv
[18:03] <Tenebrous> ah that'll do
[18:03] <Tenebrous> by screen you mean the SSH thingy
[18:03] <therion23> but im doing the tests in an ssh session while fuse is on the console
[18:03] <Tenebrous> (not the physical one)
[18:03] <Tenebrous> aye
[18:03] <therion23> i mean "output to console" no matter what console
[18:03] <Tenebrous> aye
[18:03] <therion23> you said outputting lots of text did it
[18:03] <Tenebrous> so that kinda eliminates the wifi/usb stuff also
[18:03] <Tenebrous> yeah
[18:04] <Tenebrous> i wonder why my "ps -eaf" would cause it (it does it every time)
[18:04] <therion23> yeah, now i change /dev/urandom into /dev/mmcblk0 i get all that jitter
[18:04] <Tenebrous> aha
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[18:04] <therion23> so at this end it is definitely sd card access
[18:05] <xmanmonk> Does ps -eaf read the /proc directory? Perhaps that i/o is causing the problem.
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[18:05] <Tenebrous> yeah but i didn't think /proc was a 'real folder' anywhere
[18:05] <Tenebrous> it's a good point though
[18:05] <Tenebrous> therion23: right, good. that's positive, i can do the same tests when i get home in about 30 mins. thanks very much for that
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[18:05] <xmanmonk> Perhaps more of a bus issue?
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[18:06] <Tenebrous> i gotta go home, will do some tests when i get there :)
[18:06] <Tenebrous> thanks guys
[18:06] <therion23> it could be pulse audio that is the real issue
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[18:07] <xmanmonk> therion23: You're running Pulse? I get a crackling noise sometimes with Pulse on my laptop.
[18:07] <therion23> xmanmonk, the program we use to test these sound jitter issues uses pulse, yes
[18:08] <xmanmonk> therion23: Hmm. Interesting. I've never been able to solve the issue on my laptop, so I just avoid it. :) Probably not an option, though.
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[18:10] <therion23> it is the most plausible reason i can think of anyway
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[18:18] <A124> Hey. Can one cahnge clock of the CPU on the fly?
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[18:21] <therion23> kind of
[18:21] <therion23> you cannot change it to faster than set in config.txt
[18:22] <lost_soul> why not just let the system take care of the frequency throttling rather than doing it manually? Just curious.
[18:24] <therion23> lost_soul, i have used it for underclocking in a few cases where old hardware would overheat and power off (not a pi though, mostly x86 notebooks)
[18:26] <lost_soul> therion23: I used it once or twice myself (when I wanted to throttle the CPU back after I went to bed and such) but that was years ago. I would imagine now that unless a problem, like the one you mentioned with overheating exists, it would be a job better left to the CPU
[18:27] <MY123> therion23: Set it in config.txt without force-turbo then set the gouvernor yourself via cpufreq.
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[18:27] <MY123> therion23: Set it in config.txt without force-turbo then set the gouvernor yourself via cpufreq.
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[18:29] <A124> lost_soul: If you do not use the CPU it throttles down? Also why manually to avoid heat and consumption where is no need to be in hurry.
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[18:35] <lost_soul> A124: I always thought that the ARM processors did automatic cpu frequency throttling, however in the processor specifications for the Pi I'm not seeing it. Interesting.
[18:35] <lost_soul> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ddi0301h/DDI0301H_arm1176jzfs_r0p7_trm.pdf
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[18:36] <MY123> lost_soul: It is not managed by the CPU but by the PMU. The Pi one throttles at 85 degrees C.
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[18:37] <lost_soul> MY123: thats more of a safety measure for overheating rather than for power management though
[18:38] <lost_soul> I thought the ARM processors throttled back like laptops can when their is no heavy usage
[18:38] <MY123> lost_soul: The PMU manages clocks.
[18:38] <MY123> ( clockman is the BCM internal name for that in the blob)
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[18:51] <ExeciN> I am trying to install e17 on raspbian but all I get is black screen and a working mouse pointer.
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[19:05] <MY123> ExeciN: Wayland ?
[19:05] <MY123> ExeciN: Wayland ?
[19:06] <MY123> For X11, try Bodhi for RPi.
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[19:07] <ExeciN> MY123: as it seems the black screen and mouse working was LXDE loading stuff. enlightenment_start gives me those errors though http://pastebin.com/Fg8AVmW4
[19:07] <ExeciN> (black screen was irrelevant with e17)
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[19:08] <MY123> ExeciN: Normal as the Pi only haves OGLES and you have not well compiled your version.
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[19:13] <neutrino> the smd fuses on the pi .. can they blow out ?
[19:14] <IT_Sean> Yeah, watch out for your eyebrows!
[19:15] <IT_Sean> Just kidding... they are polyfuses, are are self resetting.
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[19:25] <neutrino> lol okay
[19:25] <neutrino> IT_Sean: can i short them to get more power for usb ?
[19:28] <neutrino> anyone ?
[19:28] <IT_Sean> Doing so is not recommended.
[19:28] <neutrino> okay ..
[19:29] <neutrino> i heard the pi's which came later had them removed
[19:29] <neutrino> mine is one of the earlier pi's without the mounting holes
[19:29] <neutrino> and 256 mb of ram
[19:29] <IT_Sean> Understood. You can bypass them, but, as i said, it is not recommended and will void any warrenty you've got on the thing.
[19:30] <neutrino> ah damn ..
[19:30] <neutrino> how long is the warranty b dw ?
[19:30] <MY123> neutrino: Two years in EU.
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[19:31] <MY123> (MINIMAL period as specified in the law)
[19:32] <neutrino> it will be two years this august .. and im not in the EU so i guess my warratnys blown out anyway
[19:32] <MY123> neutrino: Where do you live ?
[19:33] <neutrino> South Asia
[19:33] <neutrino> India
[19:34] <MY123> neutrino: You are out of luck. You have a 1 year warranty.
[19:35] <neutrino> well on the bright side .. i dont lose anything if i short the fuses
[19:36] <neutrino> and soldering SMD is a breeze for me .. have had good experience and equipment ( microsodlering iron )
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[19:55] <Tenebrous> therion23: hey, thanks for checking out the emulator for me.
[19:55] <Tenebrous> however, i haven't got pulseaudio installed!
[19:55] <MY123> neutrino: It is better to buy a new Pi , model B+.
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[20:19] <ExeciN> I got wayland working! now how do I properly compile e17 for raspbian?
[20:20] <MY123> ExeciN: Did you compile userland with the #110 patchset ?
[20:21] <ExeciN> no, how do I do it?
[20:22] <MY123> ExeciN: Was written in the Gmane link
[20:22] <Tenebrous> therion23: also, if i try "dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1024 | strings" i get stutter
[20:22] <therion23> Tenebrous, no prob :) wonder why mine uses pulse and yours doesn't though
[20:22] <Tenebrous> no idea
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[20:23] <therion23> what sound layer are you using?
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[20:27] <Tenebrous> alsa... i think?
[20:27] <therion23> hehe
[20:28] <Tenebrous> i'm sorry. but you have reached the edge of my linux knowledge. please try again later. :D
[20:29] <therion23> try this: ldd `which fuse`
[20:29] <therion23> see if any of the libraries look sound related
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[20:30] <Tenebrous> oki, it's just rebooting. i tried it on an hdmi screen with no bluetooth and no wifi, and it's certainly playable with very little stuttering if i don't... "interfere" from outside, so at least the project isn't a write-off... yet ;)
[20:30] <therion23> was it you who showed a pic of a Spectrum + cabinet?
[20:31] <therion23> like a few days ago
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[20:31] <Tenebrous> this thing? https://s3.amazonaws.com/pushbullet-uploads/udqn9-qR5Q47MMgU2eUa286XtWetItxyEzSG5F/IMG_20140809_193406.jpg
[20:31] <therion23> yepper
[20:31] <Tenebrous> yeah
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[20:32] <therion23> gonna slap a pi inside it? :)
[20:32] <Tenebrous> aye that is the idea
[20:34] <Tenebrous> libaudiofile.so.1, libasound.so.2, libpulse-simple.so.0, libpulse.so.0, libpulsecommon-2.0.so
[20:34] <Tenebrous> :/
[20:34] <therion23> the TOSEC collection for ZX Spectrum is a bit less than 2GB zipped
[20:35] <Tenebrous> aye :)
[20:36] <therion23> so, you do use pulse .. and alsa too apparently
[20:36] * Tenebrous doesn't know
[20:36] <therion23> i think asound is part of alsa
[20:38] <Tenebrous> sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio
[20:38] <Tenebrous> Package 'pulseaudio' is not installed, so not removed
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[20:39] <therion23> libpulse more likely?
[20:39] <therion23> i am in arch right now so i cannot check
[20:39] <Tenebrous> no problem, i'll poke around
[20:40] <therion23> maybe you can get away with quite a few dependencies if you compile your own
[20:40] <therion23> for instance, libaudiofile is only used for loading real Spectrum tapes sampled to .wav
[20:40] <Tenebrous> well, i did compile the installed FUSE myself, so that should be pretty easy
[20:41] <Tenebrous> (i had to change a couple of the menu keys)
[20:41] <therion23> all right, then you should have a look at the options for ./configure
[20:41] <Tenebrous> brill, i'll do that.
[20:41] <therion23> maybe by using asound instead of pulse your problem goes away
[20:41] <Tenebrous> btw, the megadrive emulator stutters also, but i think that is CPU, and i haven't poke around with it's emulator config yet
[20:41] <Tenebrous> however, i'll concentrate on getting FUSE 100% for now
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[20:43] <therion23> you can almost fit a pi inside the base of a Quickshot 2 joystick from the old days
[20:43] <Tenebrous> aye! but not /quite/ a microdrive
[20:43] <IT_Sean> "almost" only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear war.
[20:44] <therion23> why horseshoes?
[20:44] <Tenebrous> i have a kempston joystick interface thing here, i am very tempted to add 'expansion ports' using that... i.e. stick a couple of usb ports on one and have them routed thru the expansion port
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[21:37] <Tenebrous> bah, can't compile fuse anymore. syntax error running byacc apparantly :/
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[21:38] <therion23> ouch
[21:38] <Tenebrous> bleh, i'll poke around with it later on :)
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[21:44] <maybethistime> when i try to type " it shows what appears to be a 0
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[21:44] <maybethistime> what black magic is this?
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[21:46] <IT_Sean> just sudo apt-get remove Blackmagic
[21:46] <IT_Sean> :p
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[21:48] <Jusii> did someone call me?
[21:48] <maybethistime> lol
[21:49] <IT_Sean> nope.
[21:49] <maybethistime> i guess the keyboard is mapped to en_GB not en_US
[21:49] <IT_Sean> That is a distinct pastability.
[21:50] <maybethistime> on US keyboards, shift-2 is @ but seems like on GB it's "
[21:50] <IT_Sean> what's shift 3, 4, 5 and 6?
[21:51] <maybethistime> on the pi it is £$%^ on my mac it is #$%^
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[21:52] <IT_Sean> Yeah, that's a GB keyboard layout.
[21:52] <therion23> okay, so the SDL2 issues are with arch, not with SDL itself
[21:53] <maybethistime> at least it isn't set to dvorak
[21:53] <IT_Sean> heh
[21:53] <maybethistime> there's probably separate dvorak for en_GB though lol
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[21:56] <brasileiro> hi everyone! I'm starting to build my own automatic brewery... first of all I need to control the temperature on the HLT and i'm thinking of doing it with a badass 6000W resistance... the question is: how can i control it using raspberry? first I was thinking about a 40A SSR but i'm really new into all this and don't want to burn my Pi... any help would be tremendoulsy welcome!!
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[22:01] <maybethistime> brasileiro: i am trying to find a somewhat relevant link for you, sit tight
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[22:03] <brasileiro> maybethistime, thank you very much =)
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[22:06] <maybethistime> brasileiro: , links incoming. i found stuff i didnt know about before
[22:06] <maybethistime> http://www.brewpi.com/
[22:06] <maybethistime> http://www.brewbot.ca/
[22:06] <maybethistime> http://www.brewmation.com/Turnkey_systems.html
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[22:08] <brasileiro> maybethistime, yeah... already saw that... not much information unfortunately =/
[22:08] <maybethistime> bummer
[22:09] <brasileiro> maybethistime, I was just wondering how can i control a 6000w resistance using raspberry.. solid state relay (SSR) was my first idea... what do you think?
[22:09] <maybethistime> my only thought would be that i'd be concerned about the pi crashing or the SD card corrupting
[22:09] <maybethistime> brasileiro: that's beyond my current skill set
[22:10] <brasileiro> maybethistime, above mine too =P
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[22:13] <Tenebrous> therion23: redownloaded the src and it compiles now, so now i can piddle about with the config
[22:13] <Tenebrous> (not sure what i broke tho!)
[22:14] <therion23> do this: ./configure --help
[22:14] <therion23> it shows you the stuff you can enable and disable
[22:15] <Tenebrous> aye i already had, was disabling stuff when it broke... when i ./configure'd back to how it was before it still wouldn't compile
[22:15] <Tenebrous> lol
[22:15] <Tenebrous> s'ok now tho
[22:16] <therion23> i am pondering wiping arch linux
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[22:16] <therion23> unless i can figure out why sdl2 won't play nice with it
[22:17] <therion23> actually, it's not just sdl2, opengl won't work either
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[22:38] <DoctorD90> HEEELLLOOOOO :D just 2 easy questions. doestn.exists anyway to put 2 os on same sd and choose what load at.boot? ....2.with B+ is.remained always only 2 I2C pins?
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[22:38] <maybethistime> DoctorD90: berryboot lets you boot multiple OS
[22:39] <DoctorD90> berryboot is...? something related with NOOBS? ...sorry, but i have drop news on rpi from some month..... :P
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[22:39] <therion23> mmcblk0p5 and onwards are logical partitions right?
[22:40] <grache28> Hi - if my devices have an external power source, and I use a non powered usb hub to connect them to the Pi?
[22:40] <maybethistime> DoctorD90: http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
[22:43] <DoctorD90> thx *-* i go to read!....about i2c? always same.pin as before?
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[22:45] <IT_Sean> grache28: yes.
[22:46] <maybethistime> DoctorD90: i have never used i2c so i cannot answer, the info is out there though
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[22:47] <DoctorD90> maybethistime: great. it seems great *-*
[22:48] <DoctorD90> is possible store DIFFERENT os in DIFFERENT positions?
[22:48] <maybethistime> define positions?
[22:49] <DoctorD90> i mean: raspbian on sd card and another one on an hdd
[22:50] <DoctorD90> or once i choose 'external hdd' it will ALWAYS check in hdd?
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[22:51] <maybethistime> the site is not clear
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[22:53] <DoctorD90> ah, you dont use it? ah ok sorry :P
[22:53] <DoctorD90> and you dont.know too if is possible install other distro than that showed in pic?
[22:54] <maybethistime> DoctorD90: i used it once to try dualbooting raspbmc and raspbian on a single SD, never tried booting from external drive
[22:55] <grache28> IT_Sean: sorry, my question was malformed. *Can* I connect multiple powered devices to a non powered hub?
[22:56] <IT_Sean> Y
[22:56] <IT_Sean> E
[22:56] <IT_Sean> S
[22:56] <ozzzy> yep..
[22:56] <DoctorD90> so you dont know.if it allow other os....
[22:56] <grache28> thanks
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[22:57] <maybethistime> DoctorD90: looks like it is possible but complicated http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot/adding_custom_distributions
[22:57] <DoctorD90> i only would not download iso from internet...i have all of them on pc xP much faster xD
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[23:00] <DoctorD90> maybethistime: naaa...come on..it gives command to execute too....very good :D great!
[23:02] <DoctorD90> ah! last question very important. i have read somewhere that has been added a FUSE or.similar to pin to evade burn of rpi in case of bad connecting.of pins on 5v....is rigth?
[23:03] <maybethistime> DoctorD90: …maybe? I do not know.
[23:03] <maybethistime> just getting into gpio for the firs ttime
[23:03] <DoctorD90> ok :) so i will wait :)
[23:03] <DoctorD90> thx
[23:03] <DoctorD90> me too *-*
[23:04] <DoctorD90> i'd have to get it this end month....MAYBE...and im excited xD
[23:04] <maybethistime> what is your project?
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[23:06] <DoctorD90> ehm....how to explain....helicopter x4? ....drone? avm? i c
[23:06] <DoctorD90> i dont know how to well explain xD
[23:06] <maybethistime> quadcopter
[23:06] <maybethistime> very cool
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[23:07] <DoctorD90> yessssss!
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[23:29] <Tenebrous> therion23: btw, the default "./configure --with-sdl" already uses ALSA and not libao
[23:29] <Tenebrous> just fyi
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[23:30] <therion23> ahh, so that is an SDL dependency
[23:30] <Tenebrous> yeah think so
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[23:34] <FredNick> hs
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[23:55] <Tenebrous> ./scalers.c:1882:1: internal compiler error: in copy_rtx, at rtl.c:325
[23:55] * Tenebrous flips a table
[23:55] <Encrypt> Tenebrous, (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
[23:55] <Tenebrous> i was just looking for that :P
[23:55] <Encrypt> :D
[23:55] <Tenebrous> i think it is telling me that it is time for bed
[23:56] <Encrypt> Surely :P
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