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IRC Log for 2014-08-18

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[2:08] <Ademan> would it be silly to set up a raspberry pi as a Kerberos server and possibly DNS for a home network? I was thinking of having it run from just the SD card if it matters.
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[2:08] <kill_-9_1> Ademan: No.
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[2:38] <willmore> Ademan, I am going to replace an ageing PC which has been operating as a backup server--all that useful stuff it does anymore is DNS and DHCP. There's no reason a rPi can't do that just fine.
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[3:20] <Getty> sad that there are no microsd with wifi... might be funny to "remote install" the image on it ;) hrhr
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[3:28] <[Saint]> Getty: Intel tried.
[3:28] <[Saint]> ...and failed.
[3:28] <[Saint]> Hard.
[3:28] <Getty> hahaha
[3:28] <Getty> but does it actually work on the SD card with the old raspberry?
[3:28] <Getty> i never had a wifi sdcard in my hand
[3:28] <Getty> but just thought about that while i was browsing some shopping lists
[3:29] <[Saint]> The Intel Edison was supposed to be SD form factor, and behave as a SD card to other devices that saw it.
[3:29] <Getty> yeah thats a total different topic ;
[3:29] <Getty> ;)
[3:29] <[Saint]> But, rather embarrasingly, they discovered they couldn't meet the form factor.
[3:29] <[Saint]> It worked out WAY thicker.
[3:30] <Getty> "soon"
[3:30] <Getty> they make little atom size stick figures
[3:30] <Getty> some day they figure out the rest ;)
[3:30] <[Saint]> The idea there was what you speak of.
[3:30] <Getty> for me its just a viable product option
[3:30] <[Saint]> SD format mini-board w/ wifi
[3:30] <Getty> right now i actually plan to put in a USB-MicroSD reader
[3:30] <[Saint]> Too bad they met reality.
[3:30] <Getty> so that they can regenerate the microsd card themself on failures
[3:31] <Getty> if i could drop in a microsd wifi card then this could be dropped ;)
[3:31] <[Saint]> Err...
[3:31] <Getty> but i cant actually also switch back to the old raspberry, thats no design option ;)
[3:31] <[Saint]> You'd need to pivot out to a RAMdisk.
[3:31] <Getty> as said i never had a wifi sd card in hand
[3:32] <Getty> but isnt it possible to use an image writer then? i bet its abstracted away as regular storage device on the wifi computer
[3:32] <Getty> or at least thats what i imagine ;
[3:32] <[Saint]> Well, in order to be able to recover or replace the card contents you'd need to not be running from it at the time.
[3:32] <Getty> the device can be turned off
[3:32] <[Saint]> Either pivoting out to USB or RAMdisk.
[3:32] <Getty> then the card is not in use
[3:33] <[Saint]> Ahhhh...I misinterpreted your intention.
[3:33] <Getty> as said: a REMOTE compter reprograms the sd card via wifi so that the raspberry then boots up with the new image
[3:33] <Getty> ok :)
[3:33] <Getty> the idea is to drop the need of "take out the microsd card and do...."
[3:33] <[Saint]> If that's the way you're doing it, why bother with the card reader on the pi?
[3:33] <[Saint]> Oh. That's...rather convoluted.
[3:33] <Getty> hahaha
[3:33] <Getty> ;)
[3:34] <Getty> yeah sorry, wild ideas in the night
[3:34] <Getty> Ultra Flex network cable are f**ksh*t expansive.... just a sidenote
[3:34] <[Saint]> Seems like a big fix for a small problem. I thought you wanted the pi to be able to re-image itself.
[3:34] <[Saint]> That would be fun to try...
[3:35] <Getty> saint: mmmhhhh... the reimage itself is also a nice idea, but then how you upgrade the reimage system itself? ;-)
[3:35] <[Saint]> Pivot out to a tiny RAMdisk and back again.
[3:35] <[Saint]> Totally possible.
[3:35] <Getty> yeah ok
[3:35] <Getty> i mean
[3:35] <Getty> but .... where we take the data from then?
[3:35] <Getty> like USB stick in the USB?
[3:35] <[Saint]> Internets.
[3:36] <Getty> haha
[3:36] <Getty> and i thought i am a nuthead ;)
[3:37] <[Saint]> In theory its possible...you've made me somewhat tempted to try it. One could, in theory, re-image the pi and change OSes et all without ever powering down or removing the card.
[3:37] <Getty> i even give you a bonus
[3:37] <[Saint]> Or hardware modification.
[3:37] <Getty> if we can utilize a GPIO connected thing to achieve this
[3:38] <Getty> i would even dispatch the electronics to my electronic department (called dad) and build this
[3:38] <[Saint]> Hahaha.
[3:38] <Getty> i mean, i want to make like "end end end user" product things here, anything that makes it more reliable is interesting
[3:38] <Getty> 1.9. is the first prototype ready, 6.9. is first public presentation
[3:38] <Getty> and then i have like 3 weeks till the first device (if we sell one) goes out
[3:38] <Getty> till then i must feel "safe" about the situation
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[3:39] <pr0t> Hi, I am looking for a board I was thinking the Galileo generation 2, I want to do home automation with it using ruby and nodejs, what would people recommend for this?
[3:39] <Getty> and so far i definitly think i drop in a microsd cardreader to the product "just in case"
[3:39] <Getty> pr0t: hahaha :) just wait for my product ;-)
[3:39] <Getty> product-line ;)
[3:39] <pr0t> what is that?
[3:40] <Getty> pr0t: https://homehive.tv/ where i actually want to make a very open system about home automation, we also invented our own bus
[3:40] <Getty> pr0t: right now we start out with https://aquariumhive.com/ to make one real world product to get cash for the other development ;)
[3:40] <pr0t> will it be customizable?
[3:40] <pr0t> am I going to be able to do a lot of the coding?
[3:40] <Getty> pr0t: it will be even so that you can add your own devices to the system
[3:40] <[Saint]> Juuuuuuuuust what we need. More IoT "standards". ;P
[3:40] <Getty> pr0t: homehive.tv literally want to make it possible that you hire software developer to make your logic, so yes
[3:41] <Getty> [Saint]: hahahaha..... our bus is actually the most practical, its totally out of the thinking, but under the line its still RS485, so, its not like "THAT" game changing
[3:41] <pr0t> looks cool, but in the mean time I need something to learn on.
[3:42] <Getty> pr0t: raspberry b+ with his gpio is all you need to go on ;) depending on your electrnic knowledge
[3:42] <Getty> pr0t: most you need is the UART..... you can connect anything to an UART
[3:42] <Getty> [Saint]: we just say we use RJ45 and Cat6 cables for the RS485 wires
[3:42] <[Saint]> Non offense, but, I've lost count of the number of IoT startups that claim their standards are the most practical.
[3:42] <pr0t> which gpio?
[3:43] <Getty> [Saint]: and our 4 wire setup (half duplex) is on exactly the wires not used for 100mbit network, so they can coexist on the same cable
[3:43] <Getty> [Saint]: oh we just needed some standard to connect our "addon devices"
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[3:43] <[Saint]> Its a tough sell.
[3:43] <Getty> [Saint]: we dont propagate to network over it or anything, its just a tool
[3:43] <[Saint]> People don't want wires in their IoT.
[3:43] <Getty> [Saint]: but we need something for ourself
[3:43] <Getty> yes
[3:43] <Getty> thats why they dont see them
[3:43] <Getty> ;)
[3:43] <Getty> ehehhe
[3:44] <pr0t> which gpio should i get?
[3:44] <Getty> but if you got already network cable in your complete home
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[3:44] <Getty> you would love to network also over it ;)
[3:44] <Getty> pr0t: the raspberry pi has the gpio on it ;) you need.... just to connect things ;)
[3:44] <Getty> pr0t: its REALLY relevant here how much you understand what you do ;)
[3:44] <pr0t> is there a good starter kit to get that comes with a lot of things?
[3:44] <Getty> pr0t: you should 100% first checkup what you EXACTLY wanna do (as in what EXACTLY you wanna connect) and then see what is the best to achieve this
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[3:45] <pr0t> just home automation stuff
[3:45] <Getty> pr0t: its "electronics" ;-) hehehe i mean..... :)
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[3:45] <Getty> yeah that is a WIDE thing to say
[3:45] <pr0t> like my first project I want to make a smart garage door opener that runs on linux with all kind of cool features.
[3:45] <Getty> its like saying "i wanna make a company, how i do that?"
[3:45] <pr0t> does that provide more understanding?
[3:45] <Getty> it might be relevant if the company is a multi country empire or a small driving kiosk ;)
[3:45] <[Saint]> Protip is to stay away from these starter kit packs.
[3:46] <Getty> yeah
[3:46] <Getty> starter kit is bad
[3:46] <Getty> they propagate you towards some solution
[3:46] <[Saint]> Expensive, and almost all of them come with useless BS.
[3:46] <Getty> which might be total bullcrap for you
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[3:46] <pr0t> so what should I get to build a prototype?
[3:46] <Getty> pr0t: find the "hardware" first
[3:46] <pr0t> like something I could take to someone and say hey look want to invest?
[3:46] <Getty> pr0t: what you need beside the "computer"?
[3:46] <[Saint]> What you need. After establishing what you want.
[3:46] <Getty> you need something that can be controlled
[3:46] <Getty> how is it controlled?
[3:46] <[Saint]> Your initial brief is pretty vague.
[3:46] <Getty> find that out, then connect something to it that you can connect to your raspberry
[3:46] <Getty> TADA
[3:46] <Getty> thats your plan ;)
[3:46] <[Saint]> Pretty much "I wanna do things*
[3:46] <Getty> yeah
[3:46] <pr0t> I need a garage door open but on a small scale, doesn't have to be a real one
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[3:47] <Getty> pr0t: just...... find the "hardware"
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[3:47] <ebarch> so maybe get a servo and try controlling that
[3:47] <pr0t> I also need blue tooth and possibly NFC
[3:47] <Getty> pr0t: then you know what you need to connect
[3:47] <Getty> ebarch: servo alone leads to mechanical construction of the "garage door opening" mechanism
[3:47] <pr0t> what is a servo?
[3:47] <Getty> ebarch: you MIGHT not what that ;)
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[3:47] <Getty> want
[3:47] <[Saint]> ebarch: wouldn't you want a stepper?
[3:47] <ebarch> he said small scale :P
[3:47] <Getty> pr0t: motor... brum brum rotate
[3:47] <[Saint]> Servos that tough are expensive.
[3:47] <[Saint]> Ah. Yeah. Scale. Right.
[3:47] <ebarch> oh i'm not talking an actual garage door
[3:47] <pr0t> yes small scale first, so I can build it in my apartment, heh.
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[3:48] <Getty> see.... the ACTUAL THING is relevant
[3:48] <Getty> _EXACTLY_ what you wanna build
[3:48] <pr0t> whats that?
[3:48] <ebarch> haha, I think "brum brum rotate" is how i'm going to describe servos from now on
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[3:49] * [Saint] remembers Brum
[3:49] <[Saint]> ...god I'm old.
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[3:49] <pr0t> lol i need to google servos
[3:49] <pr0t> ahh i see
[3:50] <[Saint]> Used to watch Brum right after Postman Pat.
[3:50] <[Saint]> Heh.
[3:50] <[Saint]> #earlysaintmemories
[3:51] <ebarch> a servo wouldn't work for the actual garage door, but it would give you something to play with from node.js and experiment with the logic you need to code
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[3:51] <[Saint]> The first thing you're gonna want to do is the basic GPIO "hello world".
[3:51] <[Saint]> Ie. Flipping an LED.
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[3:52] <pr0t> so what board should i with with the servo and how do i connect it to the board, I am super new obviously, heh
[3:52] <[Saint]> Then you'll almost certainly need to look at logic level conversion.
[3:52] <[Saint]> I don't you'll be able to work with 3.3V throughout this project.
[3:53] <[Saint]> *doubt
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[3:53] <ebarch> pr0t: most dev boards will work just fine. i'm partial to the rpi (probably why I'm here) and there are some great libraries like https://github.com/rakeshpai/pi-gpio and https://github.com/sarfata/pi-blaster.js
[3:53] <[Saint]> pr0t: you could drive the serve right off GPIO.
[3:53] <pr0t> I do have a pi
[3:53] <[Saint]> But you'll want at least one 5V veroboard.
[3:54] <[Saint]> *servo
[3:54] <pr0t> I got them when they first came out bought a bunch played with them gave them all away except for run
[3:54] <pr0t> that just sits now :-/
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[3:54] <pr0t> so I need a 5V veroboard
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[3:54] <pr0t> servoboard, k got it
[3:54] <pr0t> anything else I would need?
[3:54] <[Saint]> Wire.
[3:55] <[Saint]> Lots of color coded wire.
[3:55] <pr0t> what about for the part of the garage remote system that mounts next to the home door to the garage?
[3:55] <pr0t> what type of board should I use for that?
[3:55] <ebarch> pr0t: try following something like this https://learn.adafruit.com/downloads/pdf/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-8-using-a-servo-motor.pdf
[3:55] <Getty> damn it, was disconnected of bouncer
[3:55] <[Saint]> How do you want to control it?
[3:56] <Getty> btw, good moment to mention LinuxCNC ;)
[3:56] <[Saint]> IR remote? BT? Network?
[3:56] <pr0t> ebarch: very nice thanks
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[3:56] <pr0t> I want to to be able to be controlled via wifi network, IR, bluetooth, and nfc
[3:57] <pr0t> may not do the IR though
[3:57] <pr0t> everything else for sure
[3:57] <[Saint]> Ooooohhh...k.
[3:57] <ebarch> hehe
[3:57] <pr0t> lol
[3:57] <pr0t> if that sounds dumb, please challenge me
[3:57] <[Saint]> That's a rather big step for a first project.
[3:57] <pr0t> like I said I have absolutely no idea what I am doing
[3:57] <pr0t> I want to do this as a project to learn
[3:57] <ebarch> not dumb...just ambitious. but more power to ya
[3:58] <pr0t> I like taking on big projects when I learn :)
[3:58] <[Saint]> ebarch said it well.
[3:58] <[Saint]> Not dumb, but, very ambitious.
[3:58] <ebarch> you'd probably find more of adafruit's stuff really helpful: https://learn.adafruit.com/category/raspberry-pi
[3:58] <[Saint]> Perhaps start with a single point of control and add more later.
[3:58] <pr0t> very cool, thank you.
[3:59] <[Saint]> NFC is likely easiest to implement.
[3:59] <[Saint]> (But hilariously unsafe for the real world)
[3:59] <willmore> crud, no real dhcp server in raspbian.
[3:59] <Getty> i never heard of that before and when i found it, i was shocked.... SHOCKED!... a complete impressive ecosystem.... just wow
[3:59] <[Saint]> ...I don't want MY garage being opened with something so trivially cloned.
[3:59] <[Saint]> Perhaps you do though. ;)
[4:00] <ebarch> willmore: just apt-get install isc-dhcp-server
[4:00] <willmore> ebarch, I don't see that in the list of packages.
[4:00] <ebarch> hmm...in the pi store or via apt/aptitude?
[4:00] <willmore> well, WTF, it's there. Thanks, ebarch.
[4:00] <ebarch> heh, np
[4:00] <willmore> why did a search in aptitude not see it?
[4:01] <[Saint]> Because aptitude suxx0rz
[4:01] <[Saint]> lulz
[4:02] <willmore> Ha, apt-get tries to start the service without a valid config. Much fail! :)
[4:03] <willmore> That's okay, apt, I got this one. :)
[4:03] <ebarch> reminds me of eclipse when I create an XML file while working on android and immediately i'm innundated by error messages that my blank XML file is invalid
[4:05] <willmore> Yeah, it's pretty much that. :)
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[4:06] <ebarch> but i'm not going to complain...at least it's open source :P
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[4:07] <willmore> That's never stopped anyone from complaining before. ;)
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[4:07] <[Saint]> If you can't complain you're not putting in enough effort.
[4:08] <[Saint]> Try harder.
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[4:08] <ebarch> haha. I want my money back!
[4:08] <[Saint]> That's better.
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[4:12] <willmore> Now you're getting it, ebarch!
[4:12] <willmore> Keep it up and you'll be a Ubuntu user in no time.
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[4:21] <willmore> Well, it looks like it worked. dhcp service has moved from one host to another and failover still works. yay!
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[4:21] <willmore> Oww, need to get dnsmasq setup before someone dhcps and gets a bad dns server address. Oops. :)
[4:23] <willmore> Oh, crud, forgot a default route.
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[9:52] * Disconnected.
[9:52] -asimov.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[9:52] -asimov.freenode.net- *** Checking Ident
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[9:52] -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
[9:52] -NickServ- You have 30 seconds to identify to your nickname before it is changed.
[9:52] -NickServ- You are now identified for DataBot.
[9:52] -MemoServ- You have 2 new memos.
[9:52] -MemoServ- To read them, type /msg MemoServ READ NEW

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