#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-09-07

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[0:00] <steve_rox> i guess so
[0:00] <Cykey> shiftplusone: Okay, I know what happens now
[0:00] <ShorTie> printers can be like shared i guess
[0:00] <Cykey> it goes into "power management" (??) mode
[0:00] <shiftplusone> ah, I keep forgetting about that
[0:00] <Cykey> From the pi (with usb keyboard), I can just ping any website
[0:00] <steve_rox> i want to share my imaxb6 charger usb data power
[0:00] <Cykey> and then I can ssh in the pi again
[0:00] <steve_rox> port
[0:00] <Cykey> but after a while it just goes into that mode
[0:01] <shiftplusone> this is like the third time I've seen this exact issue and solution, yet I keep forgetting it every time it comes up
[0:01] <ShorTie> that is call 'old timers' setting in, hehe
[0:02] <steve_rox> i always note down solutions if they are annoying to rember
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[0:23] <linwiz> wifi power mgmt? thats easy. just `sudo /etc/network/interfaces` add `wireless-power off` save and restart
[0:25] <linwiz> or `sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces`
[0:26] <steve_rox> least that rpi clone got elminated
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[0:27] <steve_rox> using the same soc and premoting useing of same software , kinda crossing the line
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[0:31] <abnormal> what pi clone?
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[0:34] <pksato> abnormal: you lived on cavern at last month? :)
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[0:35] <linwiz> http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G140610189490 ?
[0:35] <abnormal> yes I did, pksato
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[0:35] <linwiz> abnormal Don't feel bad, Me too. I had to look it up.
[0:36] <linwiz> I'm not so sure there is a line to cross however.
[0:36] <pksato> I live on one, but some time I look outside. :)
[0:38] <niston> reminds me of IBM and the compatibles back in the early 80s
[0:39] <linwiz> its not really a clone. they were doing what all the car mfg's, cell phone mfg's, computer mfg's do. every one trys to sell their version of a thing.
[0:39] <niston> personally I hope that the compute module sets some sort of standard and that many many clones will flourish
[0:39] <niston> perhaps with more ram and cpu bang
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[0:41] <pksato> no clones, but compatible devices. using standard 'bus'.
[0:42] <niston> err yes. compatibles. thats right!
[0:43] <pksato> like pc/104
[0:45] <abnormal> Ok, if you look closely at the board after the word, Odroid, you will see the symbol, pi, so they were doing something that is not acceptable to the original manufacturer. it used the exact same chip...
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[0:55] <linwiz> But I don't think the pi symbol is something that can be copyrighted etc
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[0:55] <niston> I wonder why ppl are complaining about "fleecing software"
[0:55] <CoJaBo> linwiz: It's trademarked in the US
[0:56] <niston> its all open source isnt it?
[0:56] <niston> so if ppl dont like open source, why dont they buy and work with something proprietary??
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[0:57] <CoJaBo> linwiz: I severely doubt it'd ever stand up in court if challenged, but this guy somehow got a registration number and everything http://trademarks.justia.com/857/85/pi-85785006.html
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[1:15] <PacketFarm> Well you can't trademark fasion related items
[1:15] <PacketFarm> There's already been a bunch of superier court rulings
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[1:31] * Bhaal is hanging out for 20s exposures from the pi camera
[1:32] <Bhaal> 6 seconds is great, but 20 seconds would be unbelievably awesome!
[1:33] <steve_rox> can do long exposure with it now?
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[1:36] <CoJaBo> PacketFarm: ..yet you can trademark an ancient greek letter? :P
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[1:38] <abnormal> sure, just print it....
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[1:39] <CoJaBo> ?
[1:39] <niston> an artist holds the trademark on the pi symbol, apparently
[1:39] <shahin8r> Does anyone here have a userscript to make links with video files (mp4) in Midori to open with omxplayer?
[1:40] <niston> actually the trademark is on the Pi sign, followed by a period.
[1:41] <CoJaBo> niston: He's apperently sueing anyone using just the symbol alone
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[1:42] <niston> has he actually sued or just sent cease and desist letters?
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[1:43] <niston> perhaps the whole thing is just "performance art"
[1:45] <CoJaBo> niston: It's a legal troll; I assume just C&D letters, because that's all that would be needed.
[1:46] <CoJaBo> It's more common with patents and copyrights; I'm not aware of any other (successful) attempt with trademarks
[1:47] <niston> perhaps not a troll, though. I could see artistic value in the action. such as pointing out that you can actually get a trademark on a mathematical symbol and then go around a send C&D letters to everyone.
[1:47] <niston> which speaks kinda louder than words, imho.
[1:47] <CoJaBo> That's pretty much the definition of trolling :P
[1:48] <niston> art is weird :)
[1:48] <CoJaBo> he's like the Monsanto of trademarks
[1:48] <niston> I mean that other guy filmed people eating hamburgers...
[1:48] <CoJaBo> Yes, but did he threaten to sue those people? :P
[1:48] <Bhaal> steve_rox: Latest firmware allows up to 6 seconds
[1:51] <niston> it seems weird.
[1:52] <niston> its like having to call an apple something other, because Apple is a trademark.
[1:52] <niston> I dont think it could happen.
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[2:12] <Bhaal> So it seems there is still a bug when raspistill is in SIGUSR1 with -t 0 and -bm ...
[2:13] <Bhaal> Its not updating the ISO after each picture...
[2:13] <Bhaal> Oh, and thats with the -n switch...
[2:13] <Bhaal> But if I take out the -n switch its possibly working correctly
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[2:19] * ShorTie hands Bhaal the ereaser
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[2:21] * Bhaal wonders what an ereaser is...
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[2:21] <CoJaBo> It's a device to erase harddrives, duhhh
[2:22] <Bhaal> That would be an eraser then...
[2:22] <Bhaal> Not an ereaser
[2:22] <ShorTie> sorry, i flunk spelling
[2:22] * Bhaal wonders why he needs an eraser
[2:23] <ShorTie> to get rid of the -n
[2:23] <Bhaal> ShorTie: Its a headless Pi.. I do not need the preview
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[2:24] <Bhaal> I shouldn't need the preview, considering the bug was suppose to be fixed.. I will verify shortly when I can get the ISO to be reported in the exif info
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[2:25] <Bhaal> Also have noticed that if you don't put a sleep between killing raspistill and restarting it with different options it retains the old options....
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[7:13] <Mr_Sheesh> On communicating between the RPi and a microcontroller attached to the GPIO pins, would you folks think using SPI, I2C, or just bit banging would be best? I only need about 10 baud or something for this application, so speed isn't essential; And nothing else is on the GPIO pins of the RPi. So bit banging would be easy :p
[7:17] <neutrino--> Mr_Sheesh: yeah 10 baud is managble by GPIO
[7:17] <Mr_Sheesh> I figured :)
[7:18] <neutrino--> although if you use SPI you can save a few gpio's on the uc as well
[7:18] <Mr_Sheesh> SPI may be problematic talking to a 10MHz ATTiny2313? Unsure
[7:18] <neutrino--> or if your uC has the SPI pins also multiplexed as GPIO then it wouldnt really matter
[7:19] <neutrino--> hmm SPI does not depend on frequency
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[7:19] <Mr_Sheesh> Nothing else on there, 4 GPIO pins is enough, basically a watchdog/status monitor - easy
[7:20] <neutrino--> there was a hack where a guy implemnted an PSI prgrammer using switche
[7:20] <neutrino--> swithces .. of course it takes an awefull lot of time to program
[7:20] <neutrino--> *SPI programmer
[7:20] <Mr_Sheesh> Someone was using SPI and was having 1% errors where the RPi talked faster than their uC could handle. Been a while tho
[7:21] <Mr_Sheesh> That'd be slow yeah :p
[7:21] <neutrino--> hmm weird ..
[7:21] <neutrino--> well yes .. there is an upper bound
[7:21] <Mr_Sheesh> 3 leds for status and a "I'm still alive" toggling pin, nothing hard LOL
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[7:21] <neutrino--> but you can always reduce the SPI clck freq
[7:22] <neutrino--> if your uC cant handle
[7:22] <neutrino--> yeah GPIO should be fine
[7:22] <neutrino--> although you will have to be polling it on your micro
[7:22] <Mr_Sheesh> True. IDK why they had the problem, maybe they were pushing the limits to maximize data speed
[7:22] <neutrino--> yeah
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[7:23] <Mr_Sheesh> First RPi hardware / software project, usually on other platforms, AVRs mostly
[7:23] <neutrino--> does the Attiny have hardware interupts ?
[7:23] <neutrino--> i know the atmega 8 does
[7:23] <Mr_Sheesh> Timers, int on pin change, etc., yes
[7:24] <Mr_Sheesh> Polling would do anyways
[7:24] <neutrino--> yeah polling should be fine
[7:24] <neutrino--> since there is nothing else realtie to be run on the micro
[7:24] <neutrino--> *realtime
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[7:25] <neutrino--> augh need to clear my keyboard
[7:25] <Mr_Sheesh> One bit at a time, and yes. Unless I blink the LEDs, easy timers thing that
[7:25] <Mr_Sheesh> Just sanity checking, so many pages of datasheets!
[7:26] <neutrino--> i think atmel really puts up good docs
[7:26] <neutrino--> i learnt what UART is off them
[7:26] <neutrino--> long ago when i started tinkering with electronics
[7:27] <Mr_Sheesh> In the '70s I was in high school, just got a serial comms device working in about 24 ICs and the teacher walked over and sat a datasheet for a new IC down in front of me...
[7:28] <Mr_Sheesh> UART IC in 40 pin DIP -.- I was POed LOL
[7:28] <neutrino--> lol !
[7:28] <Mr_Sheesh> Lots easier do do hardware in software bit banged anyways :)
[7:29] <neutrino--> ha ha yeah ,
[7:29] <neutrino--> have you heard of the DASA programmer ?
[7:30] <neutrino--> its some clever bit of bit banging of SPI over rs232
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[11:38] <Gi834> Just a quick question from someone else: is it possible that the compute module devel kit bricks camera boards?
[11:39] <ShorTie> the first 1's the camera didn't work and needed an adapter
[11:39] <Gi834> oh :/
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[11:39] <Gi834> does it damage the camera's?
[11:39] <Gi834> they seem to not work anymore
[11:40] <ShorTie> i'm not sure about that
[11:40] <ShorTie> shiftplusone would know for sure
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[11:41] <ShorTie> or look in the forums, i think it is there
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[11:42] <andy1978> I try to change the group for /dev/ttyAMA0 permanently from dialout to lp and therefore created cat /etc/udev/rules.d/80-serial.rules : KERNEL=="ttyAMA0", GROUP="lp" but after reboot it's still dialout. Any hints
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[11:43] <Gi834> ShorTie: yes I just found it on the forum
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[11:43] <ShorTie> Gi834 http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=80508
[11:43] <ShorTie> oh, ok
[11:43] <Gi834> bit of a fail, 150$ board that is not tested, but oh well shit happens
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[11:43] <Gi834> I will tell them, it's not mine
[11:44] <ShorTie> i think the fondation will make it right if you contact them
[11:44] <Gi834> Yeah, surely, they seem quite good with customer support
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[11:49] <MY123> Android Kitkat on the Pi does work without mouse/kbd support (hw accelerated).
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[11:58] <Bhaal> ShorTie: I still don't get it, what's the eraser for?
[11:59] <andy1978> ah, yeah: /lib/udev/rules.d/91-permissions.rules:SUBSYSTEM=="tty", GROUP="dialout"
[12:00] <shiftplusone> Gi834, the dev board is fine. it's the little adapter board that was the problem.
[12:00] <MY123> Gi234: There is better. http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-x99-motherboard-goes-up-in-smoke-for-reasons-unknown_150008 : 1300$ in smoke. :-)
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[12:01] <shiftplusone> Gi834, what actually happened? If you have the old adapter board and you connect up the camera, you can mess up the camera if you plug one of the connections in the wrong way. If you plugged it in the right way, it just wouldn't work.
[12:02] <Gi834> shiftplusone: sorry, I don't know. It's not my board.
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[12:02] <Gi834> It's some guy from the university that did it
[12:03] <shiftplusone> Gi834, it may also have been static. The cameras are sensitive to that, but if you zap the connection, it's more likely to damage the csi port on the pi than the camera.
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[12:03] <MY123> shiftplusone: As the EU law grants a 2 year warranty, someone may use that instead of one year.
[12:04] <shiftplusone> To confuse things a little further, the dev kit comes with two adapter boards, a display one and a camera one. They look almost identical, but have 'display' and 'camera' printed on them, so you need to check that before using them too.
[12:04] <shiftplusone> I don't think using the wrong adapter board will damage anything though.
[12:04] <MY123> shiftplusone: I tested it. It won't plug.
[12:05] <MY123> (small diff)
[12:05] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, plugged his camera into the display board just fine
[12:05] <Gi834> I am hoping the compute modules will quickly become available without the devboard
[12:05] <shiftplusone> and I may have too
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[12:05] <[Saint]> Never underestimate a humans ability to apply force to a ZIF cable and make mismatched connections. ;)
[12:06] <[Saint]> Should be called LIF, Lots (of) Insertion Force.
[12:06] <shiftplusone> Gi834, yeah, not sure what the hold up there is.
[12:07] <shiftplusone> [Saint], the dev kit protects from that by having flimsy connectors which lift off if you do that. >.> (guilty)
[12:07] <[Saint]> Hahahahaha
[12:07] <Gi834> we could use it for a educational project for students, but we have to develop this now (so we can see if it everything works b4 we make students do it)
[12:08] <Gi834> but running out of time and will likely need to use other SoC
[12:08] <[Saint]> Just do it anyway. ARMv6 is a curse on mankind.
[12:08] <MY123> Gi834: I think a model B/B+ is what you want.
[12:08] <[Saint]> Should've died long ago.
[12:09] <shiftplusone> [Saint], are there any changes in ARMv7 which actually give a decent performance boost?
[12:09] <shiftplusone> apart from NEON, maybe.
[12:09] <[Saint]> NEON
[12:09] <[Saint]> ah.
[12:09] <neutrino--> lol
[12:09] <Gi834> they design a PCB anyway so the compute module is easy to integrate without annoying connectors etc
[12:10] <MY123> shiftplusone: Where is the VideoCore V?
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[12:10] <shiftplusone> MY123, why are you asking me?
[12:11] <MY123> shiftplusone: There should be VCV info in the source tree.
[12:11] <[Saint]> Need moar Aarch64.
[12:11] <shiftplusone> There are lots of things in the source tree, but why are you asking me?
[12:11] <MY123> [Saint]: Or x86_64.
[12:11] <Gi834> We are looking now at this SoC http://www.ti.com/product/tms320dm368
[12:11] <Gi834> it also has good h264 encoder
[12:12] <Gi834> and good documentation
[12:12] <MY123> Gi834: Graphics-wise it is HORRIBLE.
[12:12] <MY123> (PowerVR inside(TM))
[12:12] <Gi834> yes, you are right
[12:12] <Gi834> but the video encoder is all we need
[12:12] <Gi834> no graphics output
[12:12] <Gi834> and that seems to work fine
[12:12] <shiftplusone> Gi834, what course is this for? What are the learning objectives?
[12:13] <Gi834> it's actually a black box for encoding h264 video
[12:13] <MY123> Gi834: PowerVR also makes video-encoders. I don't know for that specific SoC.
[12:13] <Gi834> the actual project is transmitting that video over the air
[12:13] <shiftplusone> ah
[12:13] <Gi834> we just supply the bitstream
[12:14] <MY123> Gi834: An AMD Opteron A1100 with a NVIDIA GTX Titan for video.
[12:14] <MY123> Would that consume too much?
[12:14] <Gi834> Is it not very expensive?
[12:15] <Gi834> power consumption doesnt really matter, but it should not be expensive to replace if someone breaks it
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[12:16] <MY123> Gi834: Will be at less than 100$ for Q4 2014. Currently 1500$.
[12:17] <MY123> (a tad expensive, but 8 cores at 2GHz)
[12:18] <[Saint]> a tad?
[12:18] <[Saint]> Its fricken' overkill by many orders of magnitude.
[12:18] <Gi834> Slightly so
[12:19] <[Saint]> Even that's modest.
[12:19] <[Saint]> I can't see how anyone thought that a valid suggestion to your case, honestly.
[12:19] <[Saint]> Other than "it can do video", but, that's true of many things.
[12:19] <[Saint]> Many cheaper things. ;)
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[12:20] <MY123> There is ideal cores, but they are all under NDA , NDA and NDA.
[12:20] <MY123> ( no custom PCB, ...)
[12:20] <Gi834> Afk
[12:21] <MY123> Gi834: Your best bet may be on old smartphones.
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[12:22] <MY123> ( cheap, small, can do the job when reflashed)
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[12:31] <shiftplusone> Overcomplicating it O_o
[12:31] <shiftplusone> a pi makes most sense to me
[12:32] <[Saint]> ding ding sing.
[12:32] <[Saint]> We have a winner, filks.
[12:32] <[Saint]> Get this man a prize.
[12:33] <[Saint]> and get me a new keyboard, or fingers, while you're at it.
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[12:54] <RoyK> anyone that knows if there are plans for a new pi with, say, a cortex a15 or a57?
[12:54] <skyroveRR> Hello, I was wondering whether the config.txt can support UUIDs and disklabels when it comes to defining the root filesystem to boot from..
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[13:31] <Xunie> So I'm looking at the B+ schematics, and I see a chip(?) marked as U3.
[13:31] <Xunie> I have no idea what the exact chip it is. :/
[13:31] <Xunie> It just say "U3", that's all.
[13:32] <Xunie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/schematics/Raspberry-Pi-B-Plus-V1.2-Schematics.pdf
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[14:34] <oy1r> i want to autostart vlc upon boot, how do i do it ?
[14:36] <oy1r> i tried adding "vlc playlist.pls" into .bashrc but that does not work. (now when i open a terminal windows VLC jumps up and starts playing !)
[14:36] <oy1r> did i miss something ?
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[14:44] <rosapoP> oy1r: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart
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[15:00] <oy1r> that did not work
[15:03] <oy1r> trying to run a vlc playlist on startup.
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[15:27] <neutrino--> oylr lookup about login shells
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[15:29] <oy1r> i just got it to work
[15:29] <oy1r> idk what i did wrong in the first try tho,
[15:30] <oy1r> pi wont boot now it says "want /var/swap=100mbyte, cehcking existing"
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[15:36] <xunie-laptop> Is there any danger associated with undervolting?
[15:36] <xunie-laptop> (and underclocking, for that matter.)
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[15:38] <oy1r> xunie-laptop: i read somewhere that the sd card may get corrupt if not fed enough power.
[15:38] <xunie-laptop> You mean... the image?
[15:39] <neutrino--> yes the contents of the card
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[15:40] <neutrino--> however the undervolting that you are referring to isnt probably that
[15:40] <xunie-laptop> Does the microSD card work on the 5v rail?
[15:40] <xunie-laptop> Because I'm not undervolting the 5v rail.
[15:40] <xunie-laptop> Just the appropriate software settings in config.txt...
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> microSDs never workr on 5v
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> 3.3 or below in some cases
[15:42] <Cykey> To output 3.3v from a 5v GPIO I can use some resisters & diodes to make something work, but what about outputting 5v from a 3.3v GPIO? What are my options?
[15:42] <Cykey> NPN transistor or a level shifter?
[15:42] <ozzzy_> either
[15:43] <xunie-laptop> I take it the software undervolting in config.txt also modifies the 3v3 rail?
[15:43] <shiftplusone> 3.3v rail comes straight from the regulator. undervolting is internal to the SoC
[15:44] <[Saint]> There's so many nice cheap logic conversion boards out there its not funny.
[15:44] <xunie-laptop> shiftplusone, nice!
[15:44] <Cykey> [Saint]: yeah I think I have one lying around somewhere
[15:44] <xunie-laptop> No danger to hardware damage there, it seems.
[15:44] <xunie-laptop> Thanks, man.
[15:44] <Cykey> It's just a matter of "do I need 6 output pins?"
[15:44] <[Saint]> It makes little since to build a logic convertor these days, save for educations sake
[15:44] <Cykey> like, if I just need one or two, I can just use 2 transistors
[15:44] <[Saint]> *sense
[15:45] <shiftplusone> [Saint], eh? those boards normally come at a premium and only have a few mosfets on them. Makes more sense to do it yourself to me.
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[15:47] <Cykey> shiftplusone: but 6 transistors on a breadboard is messy
[15:48] * shiftplusone uses strip/perf-board.
[15:48] <shiftplusone> though now I'm starting to suspect strip-board from the local electronics store is more expensive than a logicl level converter board off ebay.
[15:49] <shiftplusone> *logic
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[15:50] <[Saint]> Yep.
[15:50] <[Saint]> That's the conundrum.
[15:51] <neutrino--> config.txt voltages refer to the cpu voltage
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[15:51] <neutrino--> theres an LDO on the soc i suppose whos o/p is set from reading the config.txt
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[15:52] <Cykey> https://www.adafruit.com/products/735
[15:52] <Cykey> can this do 3.3v to 5v?
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[15:54] <shiftplusone> yes
[15:54] <shiftplusone> if you use 5v for VCC
[15:54] <Cykey> okay
[15:55] <shiftplusone> make sure you read and understand the datasheet
[15:55] <[Saint]> Spend the extra and go bidirectional.
[15:55] <[Saint]> https://www.adafruit.com/products/757
[15:57] <[Saint]> There's an 8 channel variant of that board too.
[15:58] <[Saint]> And many clones thereof.
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[16:02] <neutrino--> Cykey: you could also try using imply using 7400 or 4000 ( i dont remember which one ) .. one of them tolerates both 3.3 and 5 volt as a logical high
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[16:04] <neutrino--> hook two not gates as a buffer , or simply handle that via code ( 1 when you want a 0 as o/p and 0 when you want 1 as o/p)
[16:04] <Cykey> eh
[16:05] <neutrino--> 7400 series
[16:05] <Cykey> well, [Saint], guess what I just found in my stuff! https://www.dropbox.com/s/co9j3q7kqkbxowa/Photo%202014-09-07%2C%2010%2000%2006%20AM.jpg?dl=0
[16:05] <[Saint]> :))
[16:06] <shiftplusone> Love it when that happens
[16:06] <nashi> [Saint], thats an awesome device you linked to, and also I love people supporting adafruit, though ive no connection with them sides loving that the owner is a techie girl like me
[16:07] <[Saint]> They're rather expensive at times.
[16:07] <[Saint]> But, mostly harmless.
[16:07] <nashi> yes....true. I still buy most of my stuff from ebay cheapstuff but Im quite poor
[16:07] <Cykey> adafruit is awesome
[16:07] <shiftplusone> Seems like the techie girl breed becoming much more common nowadays.
[16:07] <Cykey> sparkfun is great too
[16:07] <nashi> but the few things that adafruit has that I can afford I do that when I can
[16:07] <nashi> shiftplusone, not more common, we were always here, just hiding.
[16:08] <shiftplusone> from?
[16:08] * Tachyon` could answer that with an xkcd
[16:08] <[Saint]> Beckbeards like us.
[16:08] <Tachyon`> http://xkcd.com/322/
[16:08] <[Saint]> *neck
[16:08] <nashi> .......if you have to ask that then there's no way to explain just how bad the culture has been for us.
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[16:09] <[Saint]> Cue creepy PMs.
[16:09] <shiftplusone> =(
[16:10] <shiftplusone> Anyway, hope it's getting better. I'll get back to work.
[16:10] <nashi> [Saint], I dont get many of those anymore, thank GOODNESS.
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[16:11] <nashi> its usually a stent of in channel harassment, then sometimes bans sometimes the op just ignoring it and me handing the offenders an iggy award.
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[16:12] <shiftplusone> a what award?
[16:12] <nashi> iggy award. iggy short for ignore.
[16:12] <shiftplusone> ah
[16:12] <nashi> :)
[16:13] <shiftplusone> Have we had any of that here? O_o (A question for the folks who have been around longer). I've only seen that people who identify as girls get more attention, but haven't seen any harassment.
[16:13] <[Saint]> Oooooh yes
[16:13] <nashi> yep
[16:14] <[Saint]> Many women on IRC won't identify sexuality. Because this.
[16:14] <nashi> Bingo!
[16:14] <shiftplusone> Well, message us ops in the future.
[16:14] <nashi> ive had just as much trouble with ops as users. sometimes more.
[16:15] <shiftplusone> hopefuly not here
[16:15] <nashi> I'm still here. that should say something about that. :)
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[16:17] <neutrino--> i think adafruit is rip off too ..
[16:17] <nashi> they aren't, though.
[16:17] <SpeedEvil> I am not a busty 23 year old redhed with glistening skin that has just got out of the shower.
[16:17] <shiftplusone> neutrino--, the price you pay for not relying on chinese slave labour.
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[16:17] <[Saint]> They're real bad for the "for raspberrypi" phenomenon.
[16:18] <[Saint]> Adding that tagline onto arbitrary things.
[16:18] <[Saint]> "New - copper wire! For raspberrypi!"
[16:18] <nashi> the worst by far is ebay.
[16:18] <neutrino--> http://www.banggood.com/Mega2560-R3-ATmega2560-16AU-Control-Board-With-USB-Cable-For-Arduino-p-73020.html
[16:19] <neutrino--> the same thing costs 45 on adafruit
[16:19] <Tachyon`> erem
[16:19] <[Saint]> "6mm brass thumbtack for raspberrypi"
[16:19] <[Saint]> ...$29.99
[16:19] <Tachyon`> adafruit just buy the chinese stuff adn repackage it
[16:20] <Tachyon`> you can get it at cost from the source
[16:20] <Tachyon`> http://www.buydisplay.com/default/
[16:20] <nashi> neutrino--, thats not an actual arduino. its a chinese ripoff. huge diff.
[16:20] <shiftplusone> There's some value in that. You know that the product works with the pi, that adafruit will provide support and replace it if it's broken. Not the case with banggood and ebay.
[16:20] <Tachyon`> like that (soruce)
[16:21] <Tachyon`> there's no difference at all
[16:21] <Tachyon`> the arduino design is open
[16:21] <nashi> yes, there is.
[16:21] <nashi> the diff is in the qc of the product production, and the support if you get a defective unit or have problems.
[16:21] <Tachyon`> it runs the same code, it has the same parts, there's no difference, FUD aside.
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[16:21] <nashi> so support and qc is fud?
[16:21] <neutrino--> Tachyon`: there is .. ive bought a couple of arduino's whos build was very bad
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[16:21] <neutrino--> the solder mask was off in some places
[16:21] <Tachyon`> well, if you need support I suppose it might be worth going elsewhere
[16:21] <shiftplusone> And they do provide free tutorials, make stuff in-house and do all the other things that make them worth using over random chinese sellers on ebay.
[16:22] <nashi> Yep!
[16:22] <neutrino--> shiftplusone: all thats availiable online .. what im saying is , sometimes you can find a good seller
[16:22] * Tachyon` knows he's taking a slight gamble but has had pretty good succes with chinese suppliers
[16:22] <nashi> if you dont like it, go buy the cheap chinese garbage that has the same parts but is assembled by untrained underpaid workers....
[16:22] <nashi> dont diss the companies that give the quality built stuff and brand names and support that go with it.
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[16:23] <neutrino--> the support remains the same
[16:23] <nashi> Incorrect
[16:23] <neutrino--> you can get all of it from arduino site
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[16:23] <shiftplusone> Having said that, I check ebay and aliexpress first
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[16:23] <nashi> you can get an ftdi friend from arduino site?
[16:23] <Cykey> I like adafruit because I know that they won't send me crap
[16:23] <neutrino--> ftdi freind ?
[16:23] <[Saint]> Its all "cheap chinese garbage", really
[16:24] <Cykey> and they have the world's best support
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[16:24] <nashi> Cykey, exactly.
[16:24] * neutrino-- doesnt get what they mean by "support"
[16:24] <nashi> heh
[16:24] <Tachyon`> is that just a usb to ttl serial adapter?
[16:24] <Cykey> neutrino--: their folks know how their chips work
[16:24] <Cykey> ;P
[16:24] <Tachyon`> you can get those on ebay for under 2 quid
[16:24] <nashi> Tachyon`, nope. lot more. more flexible and capable.
[16:25] <nashi> no, you cant.
[16:25] <Tachyon`> can it program a chip without a bootloader?
[16:25] <nashi> actually, yes.
[16:25] <Tachyon`> oh okay, fair enough then
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[16:25] * Tachyon` was going by the pin labels
[16:25] <nashi> ladyada figured out how to do it with her pcb design, and posted how.
[16:25] <shiftplusone> neutrino--, I've received a broken spi screen off ebay. The seller asked for a photo and offered to send a replacement if I send him the broken display and pay for postage (both ways). That would cost me more than the display. If I was dealing with adafruit, they wouldn't make a fuss about it.
[16:25] <Tachyon`> which were clearly just ttl serial
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[16:26] <nashi> shiftplusone, EXACTLY
[16:26] <shiftplusone> and adafruit would provide a datasheet and example code for that exact display
[16:26] <neutrino--> hmm okay
[16:26] <nashi> bingo!
[16:26] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't have to spend hours scouring the internet trying to find which variant it is.
[16:26] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: that's because they gouge on the price and can afford losses like that ;)
[16:26] <nashi> thats not gouging.
[16:26] <neutrino--> course it is !
[16:26] <nashi> its called quality support versus buyer beware.
[16:26] <nashi> nobody seems to understand that anymore.
[16:27] <neutrino--> i mean .. well not all sellers on ebay can be trusted
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[16:27] <neutrino--> but there are so many other sites out there
[16:27] <nashi> LOL
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[16:27] <nashi> understatement of the year
[16:27] <neutrino--> check out seeedstudio
[16:27] <neutrino--> they are reliable too
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[16:28] <nashi> never said adafruit was the only good game in town
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[16:29] <shiftplusone> quick check... http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/28-TFT-Touch-Shield-V20-p-1286.html?cPath=34_36
[16:29] <shiftplusone> yup.... all the info is there
[16:30] <Cykey> https://www.adafruit.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/wired-20110316-074410.jpg
[16:30] <Cykey> uwot
[16:30] <Cykey> she doesn't even look remotely like that
[16:30] <Cykey> photoshop lol
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[16:30] <shiftplusone> heh.... interesting to see wired pulling a cosmo on that >_<
[16:30] <Tachyon`> incidentally, the only dodgy SPI screen I got off ebay (magic smoke escaped because seller said it was 3.3/5v when it was 3.3v only) was just refunded with no hassle. so experiences vary, claiming all chinese sellers are bad is fud and racist fud at that.
[16:31] <shiftplusone> Tachyon`, who claimed that?
[16:31] <neutrino--> exactly Tachyon` .. buying of any seller would be a stupid thing to do ..
[16:31] <nashi> hes just trying to spew anything he can to defend his position.
[16:32] <neutrino--> and you arent trying to be a "blind adafruit " fanboy
[16:32] <Tachyon`> my position doesn't need defending, the chinese sellers are still in business. if they were as bad as you say people would have voted with feet and gone to expensive local sellers in droves.
[16:32] * nashi snrks
[16:32] <shiftplusone> Can we agree that adafruit does charge much more and you can usually get the same thing for much less. But for some people, it's more convenient to pay the premium?
[16:32] <nashi> first of all, not a boy.
[16:32] <neutrino--> sorry .. fangirl (Y)
[16:33] <Tachyon`> well, yes, I suppose I'd agree with that
[16:33] <Cykey> shiftplusone: Yes
[16:33] <nashi> No, we cannot, because you cannot get the same thing for "much less".
[16:33] <Cykey> but adafruit has no risk
[16:33] <nashi> you can get something lesser for much less, or the same thing for A LITTLE LESS.
[16:33] <nashi> that much is quite true.
[16:33] <neutrino--> i think we all can defntly agree that this discussion will lead to neither changign their minds
[16:34] <Cykey> look, they once sent me a broken pi. I emailed them a with pictures and they replied 4 minutes later and shipped me another one for free
[16:34] <nashi> Cykey, exactly. that and the quality of the original parts is what you pay for.
[16:34] <Cykey> yeah
[16:35] <Cykey> and with adafruit I can use the cheap shipping and it arrives very quickly since I'm not really far from their office :-)
[16:35] <shiftplusone> nashi, what do you mean? You can find a part on adafruit then buy it off ebay. Many things will come from the same factory. Quality control and support is not important to many people, so purchasing from adafruit just doesn't make sense to them.
[16:35] <neutrino--> people who like to lift the soldering iron ;)
[16:35] <nashi> shiftplusone, you really 100% sure the part you buy cheap from ebay is going to be the same mfr?
[16:35] <shiftplusone> nashi, not at all
[16:35] <nashi> that security is what you pay for with adafruit and other top tier sellers.
[16:36] <Cykey> adafruit vs. sparkfun
[16:36] <Cykey> go!
[16:36] <Cykey> ;P
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[16:36] <shiftplusone> heh, sparfun used to be where I got everything from
[16:36] <neutrino--> i bought a sanginololu of ebay and was quite a good PCB and quality
[16:36] <neutrino--> as i said looking for the right seller matters a lot
[16:37] <nashi> yes it does. I do that when getting cheap
[16:37] <Tachyon`> I need a factory that can etch/assemble small runs of PCBs at a reasonable price
[16:38] <neutrino--> seeedstudio Tachyon`
[16:38] <Tachyon`> hackvana is good for the PCB manufacturing
[16:38] <Tachyon`> but the assembly, not so sure
[16:38] <Tachyon`> ahh?
[16:38] <Tachyon`> they'll assemble as well as make the boards?
[16:38] <neutrino--> oh assembly i dont think so
[16:38] <neutrino--> lookitup
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[16:39] <neutrino--> there is oshpark too .. but i think they deal only in PCB
[16:40] <shiftplusone> oshpark have tendency to change boards and over-promise what they can deliver.
[16:40] <shiftplusone> *change layouts
[16:41] <MY123> Nothing is better than making a PCB.
[16:41] <shiftplusone> The uni I went to used them for final year projects. They weren't even close to the lead times they promised.
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[16:42] <shiftplusone> On the other hand, Davespice ordered a board from a UK fab house and they went ahead and fiddled with the layout as well.
[16:42] <Tachyon`> aye, I can get teh boards made
[16:42] <Tachyon`> I'm just not confident in my ability to solder tiny SMD chips
[16:42] <niston> pcbpool
[16:42] <Tachyon`> ah well
[16:42] <niston> they'll do assembly as well
[16:43] <neutrino--> Tachyon`: smd soldering skills are worth it
[16:43] <shiftplusone> Tachyon`, the good thing about soldering is that you get better at it pretty quickly and you can usually take the component off and try again.
[16:43] <neutrino--> considering many companies give out free samples which are smd's
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[16:44] <shiftplusone> Sometimes it helps to get some tips from someone who knows what they're doing. My soldering skills have improved a lot after learning a little bit from Gordon (from RPF).
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[16:45] <neutrino--> is he gordonDrogon ?
[16:45] <Tachyon`> ahh, I should give it a try -.o, I do have a hot air rework sation but that's used more for taking them off, lol
[16:45] <shiftplusone> nope
[16:45] <shiftplusone> different gordon
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[16:45] <MY123> jdb?
[16:45] <Tachyon`> but when it's two pins per mm
[16:45] <shiftplusone> gsh
[16:45] <Tachyon`> I have difficulties, lol
[16:46] <neutrino--> patience and a steady hand
[16:46] <shiftplusone> Tachyon`, and flux!
[16:46] <neutrino--> oh yeah and flux !
[16:46] <neutrino--> a lot of my friends underestimate flux
[16:46] <shiftplusone> Fancy equipment like a microscope in the office does help >.>
[16:46] <niston> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9FC9fAlfQE
[16:46] <Tachyon`> lol
[16:47] <neutrino--> oooh nice ..i made a makehsift one with a magnifying glass and lens
[16:47] <shiftplusone> Hell, there's a just scope probe in the office that's worth more than everything I own. >_<
[16:47] <shiftplusone> and the scope itself... geez.
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[16:48] <nashi> rigol 1502e. I want one when I can afford it.
[16:48] <shiftplusone> 1052e*?
[16:49] <nashi> yes
[16:49] <shiftplusone> a bit dated now isn't it?
[16:49] <shiftplusone> It's the one I have back home. It has served me well.
[16:49] <neutrino--> what is it ?
[16:49] <nashi> compared to an analog 1980s or 1990s 20mhz analog scope? no
[16:49] <neutrino--> oh a scope
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[16:50] <shiftplusone> yup
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[16:54] <nashi> shiftplusone, just fyi if you and others werent already able to tell, im usually on vicodin anymore, and thats above and beyond having a degenerative neurological condition, so please be lenient with me when I make simple mistakes in grammar and rememberence of things? you can see a simple example in that above when I said analog twice...
[16:54] <nashi> I try to hold myself together but at times I just slip like that or worse
[16:55] <shiftplusone> I didn't notice, but sorry to heard that and no worries.
[16:55] <shiftplusone> *hear
[16:55] <nashi> ty
[16:56] <shiftplusone> (I'm normally like that, but I have no excuse other than being sleepy <.<)
[16:56] <nashi> im exhausted too but ive been sleeping for many hours and want at least some time up and active at least mentally before I go back to zonking out again
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[16:59] <neutrino--> augh .. this is really cracking me up
[16:59] <neutrino--> whats the story behind My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
[16:59] <shiftplusone> heh
[17:00] <shiftplusone> Nobody knows
[17:00] <winlu> thats to let everybody know what a hotshot you are!
[17:00] <winlu> that you can afford one
[17:00] <neutrino--> is it like the default quit message with a client that comes in the macbook ?
[17:00] <neutrino--> or do poeple actually bother to put it up ?
[17:00] <shiftplusone> neutrino--, probably one of the popular clients for macs
[17:00] <winlu> thats why my quit message says, my ferrari has gone to sleep
[17:01] <Cykey> neutrino--: It's Textual's (popular IRC client for mac) default quit message
[17:01] <neutrino--> ah !
[17:01] <shiftplusone> Yay, I win.
[17:02] <neutrino--> and ive got my answer :P
[17:02] <neutrino--> finally !
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[17:03] <shiftplusone> No more sleepless nights?
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[17:06] <neutrino--> ahh well not because of the macbook thing anymore atleast :P
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[17:08] <shiftplusone> What's the next mystery then? Who turns off the light in the refrigerator when you close the door?
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[17:12] <shiftplusone> :command:`/set gui_hide_menu off`
[17:12] <shiftplusone> .... hmm
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[17:12] <shiftplusone> that did not do what I wanted it too <.<
[17:12] <shiftplusone> *to
[17:13] <neutrino--> what were you trying ?
[17:14] <shiftplusone> Get the toolbar back in hexchat. Just needed /set gui_hide_menu off
[17:15] <shiftplusone> Gah... wasted another weekend. Should've gone to camjam =(
[17:16] <neutrino--> try weechat ...
[17:16] <neutrino--> no menu
[17:16] <neutrino--> :P
[17:16] <shiftplusone> never
[17:16] <shiftplusone> If it wasn't hexchat, I'd probably go for irssi.
[17:17] <neutrino--> hmm yeah weechat is similar have you heard of it ?
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[17:17] <shiftplusone> yeah
[17:17] <neutrino--> it doesnt have XMPP though
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[17:27] <RoBo_V> any good hardware to mine with RPi ? xD
[17:27] <RoBo_V> Just for fun gags
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[17:29] <almostworking> the NAVIO line of products RoBo_V , ..... autoshield , by NAVIO , a drone like GPS device.
[17:30] <almostworking> oh mine?
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[17:31] <shiftplusone> RoBo_V, a few servos and a pickaxe and you're good to go.
[17:32] <RoBo_V> almostworking: I see, let me check it
[17:32] <RoBo_V> shiftplusone: servos ?
[17:33] <shiftplusone> I wasn't being serious, sorry. I assume you're talking about bitcoin mining. If you only want to do it to waste money and energy, you can use the CPU just fine.
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[19:21] <sudormrf> hello all! anyone around that can help me out with some raspbmc strangeness?
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[19:26] <almostworking> i dont use raspbmc.... , i use rasplex.
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[19:29] <sudormrf> last time I tried rasplex it seemed very unstable. has it come along much?
[19:29] <sudormrf> I used it about 6 months ago
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[19:48] <dante123> hi all, pidora lets root login, but my user account gets xfce failsafe session error. Others in forums have had same problem...no answer posted yet. Any ideas?
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[19:51] <dante123> anyone?
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[19:55] <MY123> dante123: You SHOULD not use X11 root atall.
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[19:56] <Cykey> Hi, anyone here good with servos that could help me out with frequencies? :)
[19:56] <Cykey> Here's my code:
[19:56] <Cykey> leftServo = GPIO.PWM(LEFT_SERVO_PIN, 50)
[19:56] <Cykey> leftServo.ChangeDutyCycle(0.02)
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[19:56] <Cykey> Oddly enough, the servo does not move. :/
[19:56] <MY123> Cykey: Which lib?
[19:57] <Cykey> MY123: RPi.GPIO
[19:57] <Cykey> LOL, forget it. I forgot to call the start function
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[20:00] <dante123> hi all, pidora lets root login, but my user account gets xfce failsafe session error. Others in forums have had same problem...no answer posted yet. Any ideas?
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[20:32] <dante123> hi all, pidora lets root login, but my user account gets xfce failsafe session error. Others in forums have had same problem...no answer posted yet. Any ideas?
[20:34] <MY123> dante123: Please not repost.
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[21:34] <UnnamedUser> Does anyone have experience setting up YaRSS2 in Deluge?
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[21:48] <dante123> hi all, pidora lets root login, but my user account gets xfce failsafe session error. Others in forums have had same problem...no answer posted yet. Any ideas?
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[21:55] <dante123> one forum post said to run chown -R username:username /home/username/*
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[21:56] <dante123> if username is say bill would the command look like this "chown -R root:bill /home/bill/*" ??
[21:57] <Jusii> no
[21:57] <Jusii> where did you get that root into that?
[21:57] <Jusii> username:username is bill:bill
[21:57] <Jusii> meaning all the files will get owner bill and group bill
[21:58] <Jusii> and that command has one flaw too
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[21:58] <Jusii> it won't touch files and directories that start with .
[21:58] <Jusii> and almost all config files in $HOME do start with .
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[21:59] <Jusii> chown -R bill.bill /home/bill
[22:00] <Jusii> is what you want
[22:00] <CoJaBo> chown -R bill:bill /home/bill
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[22:00] <dante123> ok. here is the problem pidora lets root login, but my user account gets xfce failsafe session error. Others in forums have had same problem...no answer posted yet. Any ideas?
[22:01] <dante123> forums seems to indicate might be permissions issue
[22:01] <CoJaBo> probably.
[22:01] <dante123> okay will try chown -R bill:bill /home/bill
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[22:05] <dante123> didnt work
[22:05] <dante123> get same error message
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[22:06] <dante123> Unable to load a failsafe session. Unable to determine failsafe session name. Possible causes xconfd isn't running (D-Bus setup problem); environment variable $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS is set incorrectly (must include "/etc") or xfce4-session is installed incorrectly.
[22:06] <dante123> root can login, user bill cant
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[22:06] <dante123> without getting the error message
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[22:15] <Andy80> hi
[22:16] <SpeedEvil> perhaps
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[22:17] <Andy80> I've a RaspberryPi B with an Edimax WIFI usb-dongle running latest Raspbian and a Raspberry Pi B+ with a Pimoroni WIFI usb-dongle running latest Raspbian. Both have the same problem: if I don't use lot of workardounds (like disabling power manager on wifi module, pinging the router every 5 minutes etc....) the connection drops after few hours. Is it a common problem or am I just unlucky?
[22:19] <Andy80> with the Pimoroni WIFI, that uses a different chipset, the situation got even worse and I started getting these messages in logs: rt2xc00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x07 failed for offset 0x07010 with error -71
[22:20] <Andy80> I've seen that is a bug existing since at least 1 year... is it possible that it has not been fixed yet?
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[22:26] <dante123> Thats it. Bailing on Pidora. No answers here or in forums for issue.
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[22:39] <lkeijser> hi, can anyone help me troubleshoot a very weird/flaky network connection from/to my rpi? http://dpaste.com/1HGM2J7
[22:40] <lkeijser> pings from rpi -> router are ok. Everything is wireless btw
[22:41] <lkeijser> oh wait, nu they're not .. same problem :)
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[23:07] <gregor3005> hi, i have strange problem on my raspbian. when i reboot the device the network doesn't come up. i have on my rpi a additional usb network device and added two both interfaces allow-hotplug in the interfaces config. i have to unplug and replug the power to bring the rpi online. when i send then a "reboot" in the shell its offline after the reboot
[23:09] <niston> add allow-hotplug <ifname> to /etc/network/interfaces
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[23:12] <gregor3005> niston: you read my question ?
[23:13] <gregor3005> niston: i added this but this doesn't solve the problem
[23:13] <niston> gave it the right interface name?
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[23:17] <gregor3005> niston: sorry i'm from time to time offline because the rpi is my router and on every reboot i'm offline
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[23:17] <niston> <niston> gave it the right interface name?
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[23:19] <gregor3005> niston: thats my config http://paste2.org/CKHaHG7k
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[23:21] <niston> looks right to me
[23:21] <gregor3005> niston: maybe it will help to build anywhere a timeout to bring the usb devices a little bit later up on reboot
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[23:24] <gregor3005> niston: or i build a cron script to check the network and bring the interfaces up and down until it get a connection or some crazy ideas to solve this
[23:24] <niston> dunno then. does ifconfig eth1 up after a reboot fix the problem?
[23:26] <gregor3005> niston: the problem is that i don't have a monitor in the place where my network devices are + the only monitor with hdmi is my big tv which is not beside the network devices, so i can't really test it
[23:26] <gregor3005> niston: but i write a little script which should do this after reboot
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[23:29] <elspru> hey, could I use an external graphics card, so that watching videos would be faster?
[23:30] <elspru> also is there any way to make firefox have a reasonable response time?
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[23:41] <SpeedEvil> elspru: it's lots faster if you use the Pi as an X display only
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[23:41] <SpeedEvil> *(for small values of lots)
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