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IRC Log for 2014-09-09

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[0:00] <frauxsh> i don't have another one :/
[0:00] <niston> its not normal behaviour in any way
[0:02] <frauxsh> it pretty much always happens when i try using servo motors at the same time. although they are powered from another power supply
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[0:03] <frauxsh> now it worked for days without problems 24h/day and without starting or ending any processes i cannot use it anymore. it's weird
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[0:04] <niston> that *really* sounds like a power issue
[0:05] <niston> maybe check the wiring for mistakes?
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[0:06] <niston> perhaps its not properly feeding from the aux power supply?
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[0:08] <Andy80> hi, anyone of you has experience with this wifi USB dongle http://shop.pimoroni.com/products/wireless-n-nano-usb-adaptor and Raspbian?
[0:08] <Andy80> it's the most unstable wifi dongle I've ever tried :(
[0:08] <Andy80> first day it worked perfectly
[0:08] <niston> dunno... maybe the name says it all? :o
[0:09] <Andy80> then it started disconnecting after few hours. I reinstalled Raspbian and it was very unstable. I reinstalled Raspbian again (I also tried it on a different Raspberry, both B and B+ and it still failed)
[0:09] <snuggles08> My RPi won't turn on! The green light flashes, stops flashing, then freezes on the red light.
[0:09] <niston> snuggles: could be the SD card not reading properly. try pushing down on the card holder and see if it boots then?
[0:10] <Andy80> I finally reinstalled Raspbian again and all I get when I plug the wifi usb is a freeze and after disconnecting the USB I get this: http://1drv.ms/1xA8xNj
[0:10] <Andy80> is anyone able to help me please?
[0:11] <snuggles08> It won't go any further.
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[0:11] <niston> an oops error h0h0
[0:11] <niston> is the dongle feed by an external powered hub
[0:11] <niston> not enough power, all weirdnes ensues
[0:11] <snuggles08> Can anyone help me? I don't have a microsd reader available.
[0:12] <niston> snuggles did you try what I said?
[0:12] <frauxsh> niston: yes, i once did this test between tp1 and tp2 and it turned out that it was slightly to low. though i disconnected everything else and still had that problem while sometimes it works fine with hdmi, 3.5 audio, usb hdd attached. doesn't make sense to me
[0:13] <snuggles08> Yes. It won't go any further.
[0:13] <niston> frauxsh: problem goes away when the camera is not connected?
[0:13] <Andy80> niston, are you talking to me?
[0:13] <Andy80> (no, I'm not the taxi driver :P )
[0:14] <niston> funny you should say that Andy. I knew a guy named andy who is in fact a taxi driver!
[0:14] <niston> snuggles: no idea then. but I found this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39567
[0:14] <Andy80> :D yeah but my cit. was because of "are you talking to me?!"
[0:14] <frauxsh> niston: well the problem is that i cannot interact with the cam. so yeah, can't do that while it's not connected... or which problem do you mean?
[0:15] <niston> frauxsh: the pi not being able to do anything
[0:15] <Andy80> niston, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQkpes3dgzg :D
[0:15] <niston> ooh classic :D
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[0:16] <snuggles08> What does that have to do with my problem?
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[0:17] <niston> snuggles: you said it locks up until you reboot
[0:17] <Andy80> niston, by the way... do you think that my problem could be caused by poor power to my raspberry?
[0:17] <niston> snuggles: and I asked, does this not happen without the camera?
[0:17] <niston> the locking up I mean :p
[0:18] <niston> Andy: might be. as I said, all weirdnes ensues if power's not stable
[0:18] <snuggles08> What? I don't have a camera. I just got my Pi.
[0:18] <niston> snuggles: ah damn yeah :p that was frauxsh :P
[0:18] <niston> sorry
[0:19] <niston> Andy: I have an USB keyboard, that, when connected directly will stop working as soon as numlock or caps lock is active (because of the leds lighting up).
[0:20] <niston> no problems whatsoever when its connected trough a powered hub, however
[0:20] <frauxsh> niston: no, the camera locks. the rest of the pi works fine
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[0:20] <frauxsh> removing the cam while running doesn't change anything
[0:20] <niston> frauxsh: so its either a faulty cam or -see above- a power problem.
[0:20] <snuggles08> Anyone want to help me!
[0:21] <snuggles08> *?
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[0:22] <frauxsh> ok, thx. i hope it's the power... out of interest, how can you be so sure that there isn't a third option?
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[0:22] <niston> Im not. but thats what I would check first given the situation
[0:22] <Andy80> niston, yeh... the point is that in my room I don't have eth port.. I can only use wifi and I also wanted to avoid cables.... if I need to add a powered USB hub I end up having lot of cables :(
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[0:23] <niston> hmm what model Pi you have, Andy?
[0:25] <niston> frauxsh: also, the fault is not systemic as in everybody has it. so, I'm speculating its either the cam part itself (bad batch or static discharge or whatever, shit happens) or a power issue.
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[0:25] <niston> power issue because, if unsure, its always the power supply :p
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[0:27] <niston> but an unlikely -yet not impossible- cause would be a faulty cam interface on the raspi
[0:27] <niston> then theres also the possibility that you're using outdated software versions. you could consider this, too.
[0:28] <niston> and finally, I'm out of ideas. and that's that.
[0:28] <niston> Andy80: you got a model B Pi?
[0:29] <niston> Andy80: and whats the amperage your power supply can deliver continuously?
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[0:30] <Andy80> sorry
[0:30] <Andy80> I was without keyboard as I only have one
[0:31] <Andy80> niston, I've RaspberryPi B+
[0:31] <niston> all praise plug and play :P
[0:31] <niston> Andy80, so the polyfuses shouldn't be an issue
[0:31] <Andy80> and one problem was that before I was using a 5V / 1200 mA power supply
[0:31] <Andy80> now I tried another one 5V / 2000 mA
[0:32] <Andy80> and I can boot
[0:32] <Andy80> but it still can't get an ip from dhcp
[0:32] <Andy80> after few tries it goes on and it hangs on starting sshd
[0:33] <niston> so you tried with two different supplies?
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[0:34] <niston> 2000mA should quite do the trick, unless you got other stuff hooked to the pi...
[0:35] <niston> however its entirely possible that the 2A supply is not quite to spec and doesnt deliver the promised current.
[0:35] <Andy80> the 2000mA works fine on the model B
[0:35] <Andy80> it's supposed to work even better on B+ who uses less power
[0:35] <niston> interesting yeah.
[0:35] <niston> and the dongle works right on the model B?
[0:36] <Andy80> I don't remember... I've done so many tries in these days
[0:36] <Andy80> I may have tried it with wrong power supply
[0:36] <Andy80> I should take note of what I try
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[0:37] <niston> another thing you culd try is soldering a bridge wire between micro USB 5V input pin and the power pin of the USB port where the dongle is.
[0:37] <niston> but it shouldnt be neccessary with the B+
[0:38] <Andy80> I prefer to not solder anything for now....
[0:38] <niston> however, if the dongle works on the B and not on the B+, I'd probably try that first as its easy to do.
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[0:39] <niston> maybe also check for any existing incompatibility notice from the dongle manufacturer.
[0:39] <niston> maybe it can't work with the B+ for some weird reason.
[0:39] <Andy80> I bought from Pimoroni website
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[0:39] <niston> but I doubt that.
[0:39] <Andy80> they claim it to be designed for Raspberrypi...
[0:40] <niston> so if its not a power issue, I'd finally check the software side.
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[0:40] <niston> if the dongle works on the B but not on the B+, that is.
[0:40] <Andy80> it looks like I'm the only one using RaspberryPi+Raspbian :\
[0:41] <niston> I wouldnt think so.
[0:41] <Andy80> now I do last try... need to detach keyboard
[0:41] <niston> kk
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[0:43] <ahklerner> hi, anyone in here run asterisk with google voice as shown here ->http://hobbiesbytwinclouds.wordpress.com/2014/02/07/how-to-make-and-receive-call-using-google-voice-without-xmpp/
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[0:52] <Andy80> niston, B+ and Edimax wifi works, B+ and Pimoroni dongle it hangs
[0:52] <Andy80> now it's very late and must goto sleep
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[0:52] <Andy80> thanks for the help :)
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[0:52] <niston> ok. and write to user support and complain :)
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[0:53] <niston> tell em their product behaves moronic :P
[0:54] <Andy80> I will :P
[0:54] <Andy80> they can't claim it's "designed for"
[0:54] <Andy80> if it fails like that :\
[0:55] <niston> yeah. you dont have a multimeter, do you?
[0:55] <Andy80> also... they only have 1 model on their website
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[0:55] <Andy80> I was expecting it to be 100% compatible
[0:55] <Andy80> no...
[0:55] <Andy80> I should but I don't have here
[0:55] <Andy80> now I need to run
[0:55] <Andy80> thanks again!
[0:55] <niston> ok. good night!
[0:55] <niston> or good bye :)
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[1:01] <Andy80> night! :)
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[1:10] <zoidberg-> RoyK: no difference?
[1:10] <zoidberg-> Is anyone in here running a raspberry pi b+ with a large sdcard? im having problems with 64gb sd cards, it won't boot, they boot fine with others 2gb, 8gb..
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[1:58] <firebat45> I'm looking for someone to give me a hand with controlling servos with a pi - I've got a fairly large project involving multiple pis and want to learn, but i think it would go better with someone to collaborate with
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[2:00] <ahklerner> i am so stoked i just got asterisk working
[2:00] <ahklerner> with some help
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[2:11] <trevlar> ahklerner: curious.. how are you using it? what purpose? I might be looking to set something up too
[2:12] <ahklerner> free calling
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[2:15] <ahklerner> trevlar, my 'phone number' is from google voice
[2:15] <ahklerner> then get an account at iptel
[2:15] <ahklerner> that is a land line to sip bridge thing
[2:15] <ahklerner> then configure asterisk to act as a sip client
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[2:16] <ahklerner> so when someone calls the google voice number, they get forwarded to the iptel number, then it 'rings' the asterisk box, which then rings your soft phone
[2:17] <ahklerner> or whatever to set asterisk up to do
[2:17] <ahklerner> for calling out there is a python lib for google voice
[2:17] <trevlar> ahklerner: ok
[2:18] <trevlar> cool
[2:18] <ahklerner> you dial the number on your sip phone, asterisk runs a command to trigger google voice to make the call. google voice 'calls in' to the asterisk box which then bridges your sip phone to the google call, google then dials the party you are calling
[2:19] <trevlar> what softphone are you using?
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[2:19] <ahklerner> i am testing 3cx and zoiper
[2:19] <ahklerner> on my iphone it seems 3cx is the best cause it runs in the background
[2:20] <ahklerner> so you dont have to have the app open to receive calls
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[2:21] <trevlar> silly question, but both mobile apps work with the built-in handset speaker?
[2:22] <ahklerner> yes both work with the speakerphone and the hold to your head speaker
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[2:22] <ahklerner> zoiper has a better ui imo
[2:23] <ahklerner> http://hobbiesbytwinclouds.wordpress.com/2014/02/07/how-to-make-and-receive-call-using-google-voice-without-xmpp/
[2:23] <ahklerner> also there is a freepbx image for raspi already
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[2:27] <trevlar> sounds cool
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[2:51] <Boscop> hi. I installed OLA on my raspberry pi, but I can't access the web ui at port 9090, why?
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[3:35] <NedScott> I got one of these GPIO LCD screens that use SPI, and I'm surprised at how well it works
[3:35] <NedScott> since it uses a lot of CPU power to drive the screen
[3:35] <NedScott> but it's fairly practical for a number of things
[3:36] <NedScott> I got the touchscreen version and now I'm regretting it. It's not quite practical, and it tempts me to put my greasy fingers on the screen :D
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[3:46] <NedScott> and even at the slightly larger 320x480 resolution, a lot of things don't quite fit on screen
[3:46] <NedScott> like the wifi config GUI tool
[3:47] <NedScott> hmmm
[3:47] <niston> I wonder, is there no tool that creates a virtual screen and produces a scaled down version of it on a physical one?
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[3:48] <NedScott> probably
[3:48] <NedScott> I'm actually looking for such an option now :)
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[3:49] <NedScott> before I had a little $20 composite TV that was about the same size, around 3"
[3:49] <niston> if not, maybe vnc could be haxed to do it
[3:49] <NedScott> that thing had horrific resolution
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[3:49] <niston> composite video screen?
[3:49] <niston> yeah they're pretty bad.
[3:49] <niston> its ok for 40x20 text
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[3:50] <NedScott> I can't wait for 3rd parties to start using the display connector for small screens. I think the Pi Foundation is only planning two "larger" sizes right now
[3:50] <niston> what you need it for?
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[3:51] <NedScott> I do thinks backwards. I find neat things before I need them then try to shoehorn them into my life, haha
[3:51] <NedScott> technically I don't even need this screen :)
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[3:51] <niston> no cool embedded project at hand?
[3:52] <NedScott> well, one idea I had was to make a small portable SD card to SD card photo copier for family gatherings. Using two USB SD card readers, that is
[3:52] <niston> make it a generic SD card image copier and it will be the leet.
[3:52] <NedScott> while the Pi is pretty slow on USB transfer, it would be neat to have a simple select and copy GUI that can allow family members to exchange photos before going home
[3:53] <NedScott> indeed
[3:53] <niston> I think USB is actually faster than the SD Card slot, too
[3:54] <niston> would be interesting to test the speed using USB SD Card readers
[3:54] <NedScott> indeed
[3:55] <NedScott> a lot of USB flash drives don't always max out USB speeds anyways
[3:55] <NedScott> I hear a lot about using USB 3 flash drives on the Pi, simply because the chip controller in the stick is reading and writing faster even on just USB 2
[3:57] <niston> could be, yeah
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[3:57] <niston> same as with sata ssds
[3:58] <swiss> NedScott: truth, some of these 3.0 ones don't even come close to 2.0 speeds...
[3:58] <NedScott> probably :D
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[3:59] <NedScott> reminds me of some bluray releases that were done that were almost 1:1 copies of the DVD version, just on a bluray disc
[4:00] <swiss> upscale is horrid
[4:01] <swiss> you'll see it a lot with anime
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[5:57] <[Saint]> NedScott: you wouldn't even necessarily need two SD reader/writers.
[5:57] <[Saint]> You could copy everything out to a temp buffer.
[5:58] <[Saint]> This would require having at least as much storage as the largest sdcard you intend to copy, however.
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[6:02] <throwwayback> hey, is there an easy way to remove distros installed via NOOBS?
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[6:05] <[Saint]> throwwayback: what is your end-goal here?
[6:07] <[Saint]> throwwayback: ...?
[6:07] <throwwayback> to free up space
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[6:07] <throwwayback> I put on a couple of the media distros but don't need them anymore
[6:07] <[Saint]> Are you wanting to remove a single, specific OS? Several specific OSes? Or revert to a single OS?
[6:07] <[Saint]> If the latter, NOOBS is kinda irrelevant.
[6:08] <[Saint]> NOOBS is also kinda braindead in this regard (and in general, really...its bloody terrible).
[6:08] <throwwayback> well I was hoping to just delete the partitions and merge the space but I'm not sure how to identify them in fdisk
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[6:09] <[Saint]> You can remove individual OSes from the recovery console, _but_, it will also re-install the OS(es) you want to keep.
[6:09] <[Saint]> thus nuking and and all data.
[6:09] <[Saint]> I suspect that's not what you'd be wanting to do...
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[6:09] <throwwayback> gotcha, anyway to tell which partition is active using fdisk?
[6:09] <[Saint]> Not that I'm aware of.
[6:10] <throwwayback> ok, well if I brick no problem...just wanted to check
[6:10] <throwwayback> 66% chance not to mess it up on the first go ain't bad
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[6:11] <[Saint]> Myself, personally, I just use several sdcards.
[6:12] <[Saint]> I find this to be much more versatile than using the NOOBS abomination.
[6:12] <throwwayback> makes sense as well, haven't tried a boot with a blank one yet
[6:12] <throwwayback> hah, gotcha
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[6:12] <[Saint]> boot with a blank sdcard will do exactly nothing.
[6:13] <throwwayback> so I'd have to load OS on it beforehand?
[6:13] <[Saint]> Yes.
[6:13] <throwwayback> gotcha, thanks
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[6:15] <[Saint]> The closest you can get to not having an OS installed prior would be:
[6:15] <[Saint]> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[6:16] <[Saint]> WHich is an unattended netinstall.
[6:16] <throwwayback> oh nice, so it just wipes and reloads
[6:17] <[Saint]> ...kinda.
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[9:56] <RaTTuS|BIG> ha! offtopic but ace .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geagubUtgM4
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[10:47] <RoyK> zoidberg-: does rpi b+ support 64GB MicroSD?
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[10:53] <DoctorD90> RoyK: google elinux raspberry sd card
[10:53] <DoctorD90> it seems to me that it is there list of all tested sd card
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[11:03] <[Saint]> RoyK: any sdcard will do, there's really no such thing as an "incompatible" sdcard.
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[11:04] <[Saint]> The only difference is that SDHC+ is required to be formatted as exFAT by the SD standard.
[11:04] <[Saint]> But any disk manager that isn't completely bonkers (Windows, I'm looking at you...) will happily format it as FAT32.
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[11:05] <[Saint]> Anyway, yeah, and SD card should function, regardless of capacity.
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[11:06] <[Saint]> But obviously the capacity is going to need to be larger than that of the OS image itself.
[11:06] <[Saint]> (or the boot image if you're breaking out / to USB or network attached storage)
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[11:48] <waxdt> Is it worth buying this http://www.hackerspaceshop.com/raspberrypi-ws2801.html
[11:50] <waxdt> So i don't have to jam 5v through the raspberry pi
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[12:26] <Kirito> If my RasPi becomes unstable/locks up when overclocking, does that generally just mean I need a better power supply? I'm just using a microUSB charger for an old phone (I believe my old GS3) laying around, and I'm guessing that's not powerful enough for the RasPi?
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> Kirito, also depends on how much overclocking.
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> but a good PSU is the key to all Pi happiness...
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> or at least the start of it.
[12:28] <Kirito> gordonDrogon, right now I have it at the lowest preset that has an overvolt setting of 2 I think, it's the highest I could go without immediate issues, but the device is starting to lock up after extended use for me again and I think that's what's causing it under enough load (or maybe it's running out of memory, I'm not sure)
[12:29] <Kirito> Well even if it was a memory issue I imagine it should eventually kill XBMC and restore access, so I doubt that's it
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[12:30] <Kirito> The unit I'm using claims 5.0V output
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[12:32] <Kirito> ah
[12:32] <Kirito> "5V 1.0A"
[12:32] <neutrino--> Kirito: ive had cheap phone charger knock-off's which wouldnt gimme 200 mah of current
[12:32] <Kirito> "We have found that purchasing a 1.2A (1200mA) power supply from a reputable retailer will provide you with ample power to run your Raspberry Pi for most applications, though you may want to get a 2.5A (2500mA) if you want to use all 4 USB ports on the Model B without using an external powered USB hub" hmm
[12:32] <neutrino--> before the voltage would start drastically dropping
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[12:32] <Kirito> I guess I should invest in a better PSU then
[12:32] <neutrino--> are you using all 4 USB's though ?
[12:32] <Kirito> No, two.
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[12:33] <Kirito> One for my wireless keyboard device thing, and one for an external HDD case that uses its own power supply
[12:33] <neutrino--> what are they ?
[12:33] <Kirito> So I don't think it should be consuming much anything in regards to power
[12:33] <neutrino--> hmm wireless would require a bit of power
[12:33] <DoctorD90> Kirito: lol....sword art online xP
[12:33] <Kirito> Ahah, yes >>
[12:35] <Kirito> I know I've been told in here before there's no way overclocking/overvolting should ever damage the microSD but it makes me slightly bloody paranoid because the last brand new microSD I used in here ended up dying completely after I messed with overclocking the device, but I'm assuming it must have been a DOA unit
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[12:39] <Vanfanel> Hi. A very vague an general question. Is GLES2 supposed to be faster for simple 2D-texture scaling operation than GLES1.x on the Pi?
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[12:40] <Kirito> I would run a fsck to ease that paranoia but I'm using f2fs on here which can't be fsck'ed as far as I know o~o
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[12:44] <Kirito> It's nuked my XBMC settings both times it's happened is one of the reasons it makes me paranoid
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[12:57] <Kirito> http://smile.amazon.com/Kootek-Universal-Charger-Raspberry-External/dp/B00GWDLJGS/ Anyway, I found this, seems to be my best bet from a bit of searching (I couldn't find any actual 2400mA devices), but I imagine this should be plenty for what I want even with overclocking, thanks for the information
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[13:09] <lost_soul> Kirito: looks like it would work fine.. never used one so no first hand knowledge of it. The reviews look promising though.
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[13:11] <Kirito> All in all, it's kind of amusing how I've spent probably nearly $700 on a setup centered around a $35 thing >_> so throwing an extra $9 on a dedicated power supply is no problem
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[13:15] <lost_soul> $700 are you kidding me? Did you buy a crap load of addon boards, breadboards and such?
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[13:17] <Kirito> Hahaha, no, ~$640 of that was towards a RAID 5 storage build, $180 for the actual hard drive enclosure with a built in RAID controller, then ~$140 or so each or 3 3TB HDD's. I'm just using it as HTPC storage mainly right now, and using the RasPi as a makeshift NAS controller of sorts
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[13:19] <Kirito> I just happened to gain the motivation to buy it after buying the RasPi, because I suddenly realized that a single old 500GB HDD attached to a docking bay wasn't going to be sufficient for long
[13:19] <ozzzy> wow.... expensive NAS
[13:19] <lost_soul> seems like the pi would be a bottleneck
[13:19] <Kirito> Some of the full-featured NAS devices I've seen are ridiculiusly expensive, in the hundreds even thousands
[13:20] * ozzzy bought 2 Seagate 4TB units for $398
[13:20] <Kirito> And yeah, dedicated network storage isn't actually a requirement, just a convenient feature to have, it's mostly for HTPC storage and I can hook up to it locally whenever I need to
[13:20] <lost_soul> ozzzy: I spent more on my qnap nas when everything was said and done
[13:20] <Kirito> http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B003YFHEAC/ --- This, and three of these; --- http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008JJLW4M/
[13:20] <lost_soul> I like keeping things seperate though.. nas provides files.. pi plays them
[13:22] <lost_soul> Kirito: well.. I wouldn't really say the drives or controller should be counted in with the overall pi price... the pi could burn to the ground and you'ld still have everything else
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[13:24] <lost_soul> I would still think the pi would be a bottleneck.. I would assume your connecting the controller to the pi via usb so you'ld get nowhere near the sata bandwidth
[13:24] <Kirito> Yeah, I know, you're right. And actually
[13:24] <Kirito> Our network at the moment can't offer speeds above 1.2MB/s
[13:24] <Kirito> So actual NAS usage is pretty crap for anything serious, hah
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[13:25] <Kirito> Works for MPD streaming though.
[13:25] <Kirito> Music streaming that is
[13:25] <Kirito> Not much else
[13:25] <lost_soul> a nice mini-itx with 6 onboard sata ports may have been a better route to take
[13:25] <Kirito> I eventually plan to get a better router so I guess I'll see how well it performs then, I'd imagine it should be fine since I don't need it for anything really serious
[13:26] <Kirito> Just external storage since all I have right now is a laptop
[13:26] <Kirito> (Which uses a SSD)
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[13:29] <ozzzy> we have a stack of 60G SSDs that were going in the garbage... might do something with them
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[13:30] <Kirito> uwaah, such a waste
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[13:31] <lost_soul> Kirito: http://www.solid-run.com/product/hummingboard-i2ex/
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[13:31] <lost_soul> maybe have a look at that too.. msata interface.. pci-express
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[13:31] <Kirito> lost_soul, Yeah, I saw that. After I bought the RasPi
[13:32] <Kirito> I've even considered buying it if I ever do find a replacement use for this
[13:32] <Kirito> It looks quite nice
[13:32] <lost_soul> Kirito: it isn't really a waste.. you have the pi you could use for something else.. like a streaming music server
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[13:32] <Kirito> Oh no, I meant at the throwing away a stack of SSD's
[13:33] <lost_soul> oh, yea
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[13:33] <Kirito> But yeah, before I bought this I had no idea there was such a market for single board computers honestly, haha.
[13:34] <ozzzy> we've used a few of them building mini-computers (pcm9363 based)... he boards were also going in the garbage
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[13:34] <Kirito> But still, I'm surprised at how well the RasPi can run something like XBMC, at least when you're not using a bloated skin and so on
[13:35] <ozzzy> http://skygazer.dyndns.org/minipcr2/
[13:35] <lost_soul> Kirito: yea.. thats what I use mine for.. I absolutely love OE on it
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[13:36] <Kirito> I tested Xbian on it initially, that's when I figured out I had a dud microSD. After that, I threw a ArchARM install on it and have been loving it, I got XBMC running much smoother than it was on Xbian too. Not sure how much of that was due to switching the filesytem to f2fs
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[13:40] <Kirito> I've been meaning to cross-compile the latest kernel onto it for some of the extra features as well, such as ZRAM, but haven't got around to it yet. Never cross-compiled a kernel before >_<
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[13:46] <tanuva> Kirito: which xmbc skin would you recommend?
[13:46] <tanuva> The xbmc docs always say "switch back to confluence" as a first measure in case of problems, therefore I didn't try anything else yet
[13:47] <Kirito> I've used Bello per one of my friends recommendations, and it's pretty nice. It runs decently on the RasPi and isn't too bloated, but I'm currently using Amber right now, and I'm liking it the most of all I've used so far.
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[13:47] <Kirito> Amber is lightweight and seems to be one of the most popular RasPi skins because of that
[13:47] <lost_soul> I always stick to confluence
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[13:49] <Kirito> I only have a few screenshots handy, but this is Amber's fan-art TV show selection screen, http://i4.minus.com/icpo9X74k6lIQ.png --- and this is Bello's http://i2.minus.com/i7ThAJ1oAHB51.png
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[13:50] <Kirito> And I only have a screenshot of Amber's episode selection screen handy, http://i7.minus.com/imiV1BMgBigUp.png
[13:50] <tanuva> both looking better than I expected. Need to try them out when I get home
[13:50] <lost_soul> you do realize that the interface will run slower with all of that being used, right?
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[13:51] <Kirito> The interface is actually really responsive for me even with all of that
[13:52] <Kirito> Like I said also though, running XBMC on ArchARM with f2fs has made XBMC a lot faster for me
[13:52] <lost_soul> overclocking?
[13:52] <Kirito> A little, like I said earlier I haven't been able to overclock it much, let me check what I have it set at right now
[13:52] <Kirito> Medium preset, yeah.
[13:53] <Kirito> That's the highest it runs at right now without freezing immediately on boot
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[13:53] <Kirito> I imagine on Turbo even Bello would run completely smooth, overclocking to Medium even makes a pretty big difference though
[13:54] <lost_soul> I haven't tried overclocking yet.. I had some difficulty finding a decent enough psu to even run it stable at 700mhz on my model B
[13:54] <Kirito> I could post a quick video showing it if you're curious, it'd just take a bit (since most people tend not to believe me when I say XBMC runs responsively on here, though that's usually people from #xbmc)
[13:54] <lost_soul> I've since retired that and have a couple of B+
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[13:55] <Kirito> Yeah, I have a B+
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[13:58] <lost_soul> Kirito: no need.. I believe you
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[14:15] <Kirito> lost_soul, ah, well, if you're curious anyways, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXMoOFw3oog&hd=1 --- I have rsync running in the background here though, normally it's a bit snappier
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[14:18] <lost_soul> Kirito: ah... not really what I was talking about... nice video though thank you
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[14:19] <sine0> I saw an article where the pi was used as an fm transmitter, this was cool. I wonder if this function is something that could be utilised the linux os that could be put on the pi
[14:19] <lost_soul> Kirito: I mean if you have like hundreds of movies showing on the initial movie page where it shows covers and you want to scroll very fast through them... it will typically stop for a time so the covers can be refreshed before moving on
[14:20] <Kirito> I swear I think I saw something for fm transmitors in the kernel configuration once before
[14:20] <Kirito> http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_KEENE.html may be all I'm remembering
[14:21] <Kirito> lost_soul, ahhh, yeah, doesn't that partially depend how much video memory you give the device though?
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[14:21] <Kirito> XBMC docs says 256M should be "more than enough" for most use cases, but I'm not sure
[14:21] <Kirito> That's how much I have dedicated to it right now anyways
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[14:22] <lost_soul> I don't understand what he is really on about.. without some kind of hardware you wouldn't have an FM transmitter
[14:22] <lost_soul> and like he said FM transmitter projects already exist.. a few of them
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