#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-09-11

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[0:03] <ShorTie> i get about 2 days from my lawn mower battery
[0:06] <CoJaBo> and wifi works FIRST TRY OMG
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[0:08] <Chase__> CoJaBo: so what the i/o error stuff from, the computer you were using to write on the sd card?
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[0:14] <CoJaBo> Chase__: Cardreader must be bad
[0:16] <Chase__> ah
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[0:18] <[Franklin]> oh hey [Saint]... :)
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[0:24] <[Franklin]> just wanna know: is running a rpi as a production web server a good idea? as in, how stable is it?
[0:25] <[Franklin]> not if it's a good idea... I sorted that out ages ago :)
[0:25] <[Franklin]> just how stable is it
[0:25] <Mr_Sheesh> Hardware's stable, is the software? IDK. Don't expect it to be a quad Xeon server tho :p
[0:26] <[Franklin]> and is mining litecoin the the background a good idea? :)
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[0:26] <Mr_Sheesh> o.O Uh stress test, you say? :p
[0:27] <[Franklin]> nope... to pay for the power!
[0:27] <[Franklin]> or bitcoin with usb miners
[0:27] <niston> no way
[0:28] <[Franklin]> about 1 KH/s
[0:28] <niston> totally useless
[0:28] <niston> money sink
[0:29] <niston> you'll end having to pay for N electricity while receiving only M in litecoins and N will be > than M
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[0:29] <[Franklin]> with server in background
[0:29] <PhantomS> I'd hate to try connecting to a webserver also mining
[0:29] <[Franklin]> so will it use more power with the litecoin miner?
[0:29] <niston> yes
[0:29] <[Franklin]> try it: http://fwei.tk
[0:30] <niston> cpu aint running on air you know
[0:30] <Mr_Sheesh> unless you have wind power
[0:30] <niston> haha xD
[0:31] * [Franklin] considers solar panels
[0:31] <niston> for mining?
[0:31] <PhantomS> wonder how long mining on a pi would take to pay off solar panels
[0:32] <niston> mining is very power intensive, so I dont think it'd be the sensible choice
[0:32] * [Franklin] kills minerd ASAP
[0:32] <niston> unless youre located in the middle of a desert where the sun glares down unhindered. but then you'll need even more power for cooling.
[0:32] <[Franklin]> $1/month :P
[0:32] <[Franklin]> :O
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[0:32] <Barteh> probably a bit late to go into the mining business now tbh
[0:32] <niston> yeah
[0:33] <Barteh> unless you have really cheap electricity and a ton of hardware
[0:33] <PhantomS> even with dedicated mining hardware there isn't much money in it anymore
[0:33] <theCzar> PhantomS: my guess: a long time. I used to mine litecoin on a beefy machine (I didn't have to pay for power) and only averaged one litecoin per every week.
[0:33] <SpeedEvil> Mining on a pi will never, ever recover money - at any time past 2012 or so
[0:33] <Barteh> there were pictures of this chinese outfit on reddit/imgur a month ago, don't think your single pi can compete in any meaningful way
[0:33] <niston> well
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[0:33] <SpeedEvil> 2011 probably
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[0:33] <niston> cpu mining is sort of playing intergalactic lottery
[0:34] <[Franklin]> alos, is it safe to run 24/7 rpi?
[0:34] <Barteh> lol
[0:34] <[Franklin]> *also
[0:34] <SpeedEvil> Safe - sure
[0:34] <niston> if you're really really lucky you might mine a block
[0:34] <[Franklin]> LOL
[0:34] <niston> by pure randomness of luck
[0:34] <[Franklin]> so pool maybe?
[0:34] <Barteh> a thousand times very little computing power still is very little computing power
[0:34] <niston> worth dedicating maybe the amount of a lottery ticket a month
[0:34] <[Franklin]> and risk of sparks on CARPET?
[0:34] <niston> otherwise I wouldnt bother
[0:34] <niston> mining has become an arms race a while ago
[0:34] <Barteh> aye
[0:34] <[Franklin]> read: carpet!
[0:34] <PhantomS> a quick google shows an asic giving 1MH/z for $30 and you're getting 1KH/s
[0:35] <[Franklin]> LOL
[0:35] <PhantomS> and thats a cheap unpowerful one
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[0:35] <Barteh> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/12/chinese_bitcoin_farms_from_scifi_to_scuzzy/
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[0:35] <Barteh> http://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2013/12/17/bitcoin-mine/
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[0:40] <CoJaBo> ..damn. my USB cable's frayed :/
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[1:08] <xreal> I need a 56k modem for my Raspberry. Is there a small shield or something?
[1:08] <CoJaBo> ..cool, I can control the power LED from software
[1:08] <SpeedEvil> xreal: probably not
[1:08] <[Franklin]> I can control the OK LED, too
[1:08] <[Franklin]> AKA ACT LED
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[1:09] <xreal> SpeedEvil: So I need a usb-2-serial adapter to drive my old acer modem?
[1:09] <CoJaBo> I'm able to control both, apperently
[1:09] <SpeedEvil> xreal: or something like that, yes
[1:09] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-USB-56K-External-Dial-Up-Voice-Fax-Data-Modem-V-92-V-90-Windows7-64-mac-/351006759317?pt=UK_Computing_Networking_SM&hash=item51b9a21995
[1:09] <SpeedEvil> For example - if that had linux drivers
[1:09] <CoJaBo> `ping` makes it flash once a second; `ping -f` turns it off >_>
[1:09] <xreal> SpeedEvil: yeah, good alternative, thx
[1:09] <SpeedEvil> (it doesn't)
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[1:11] <SpeedEvil> http://sandeen.net/wordpress/computers/a-hardware-usb-modem-for-linux/ - or maybe it did at one point
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[1:12] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-56K-V-92-V-90-External-Dial-Up-Voice-Fax-Data-Modem-for-PC-Linux-Vista-32-64-/221539731392?pt=UK_Computing_Networking_SM&hash=item3394cc07c0
[1:12] <SpeedEvil> hmm
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[1:14] <xreal> SpeedEvil: DELL has one around, this is working on linux
[1:16] <xreal> SpeedEvil: the problem is, these are "soft modems".
[1:16] <xreal> SpeedEvil: Everything is done in the drivers... not like the old modems, which are hardware.
[1:16] <SpeedEvil> xreal: I'm just going by the fact that it says linux.
[1:16] <SpeedEvil> if it has a x86 driver - then yes - that's not going to work
[1:17] <xreal> SpeedEvil: I'll stay with my old Acer. You simply can open UART and you're done.
[1:17] <SpeedEvil> you're going to need to do research
[1:17] <SpeedEvil> if that's an option - great
[1:17] <xreal> SpeedEvil: new hardware isn't always better :D
[1:17] * xreal stays with his iPhone 3GS
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[1:17] <ksx4system> anyone tried zd1211 WiFi card on openSUSE?
[1:18] <CoJaBo> wow. The cheap chinese battery runs the pi fine, where the power LED flashes with both my stock 2A chargers >_>
[1:18] <SpeedEvil> Are you sure it's not the cable?
[1:19] <Mr_Sheesh> Which battery?
[1:19] <CoJaBo> I thought it was the cable, but the frayed one works fine (it's the one connecting the pi to the battery now)
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[1:20] <SpeedEvil> witch battery is not acceptable - they are just perfectly normal members of the community with odd beliefs.
[1:21] <CoJaBo> lol
[1:23] <Mr_Sheesh> I'm just wondering which battery they're using to run an RPi; I have a project that will use an RPi that'd be battery powered.
[1:23] <SpeedEvil> how long for?
[1:23] <SpeedEvil> For a couple of hours, there are many available 'USB batteries' that will suit
[1:24] <SpeedEvil> for much more than that, it gets a little involved
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[1:26] <Tachyon`> there are packs sold specifically for powering the pi afaik
[1:27] <Tachyon`> you'll do better with the b+ since it has a modern switching regulator
[1:27] <Mr_Sheesh> OK, I'd seen the USB packs ofc, just curious what others use & their experience using it :) preferably I'll find a pack I can use while it's charging even
[1:30] <CoJaBo> Which ones are there specific for the pi?
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[1:35] <Mr_Sheesh> I know for certain I could "diode steer" power from a battery charger to run the RPi + just charge the battery, anyways.
[1:36] <CoJaBo> ?
[1:37] <Mr_Sheesh> means to use diodes to switch how the power works. I do electronics for work :)
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[1:38] <Mr_Sheesh> Lots of ways to do it, anyways
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[4:23] <phire> So, the pi doesn't support floating point textures?
[4:25] <phire> oh, 16bit float textures are supported?
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[4:39] <tekgeek> I was looking for a raspberry pi kit and I found this
[4:39] <tekgeek> Items Included: Raspberry Pi Model B (V2.0 512MB), 4GB Memory Card (Dual Boot Raspbian & Openelec XBMC), Clear Acrylic Laser Cut Enclosure (V2.0 Flip Lid), UK Micro USB Power Supply (5Volt 1000mA), 1.0M HDMI Cable (FREE!)
[4:39] <tekgeek> guess the price
[4:39] <abnormal> 56 bux
[4:40] <tekgeek> $395.41 + 12.99 shipping
[4:40] <abnormal> what? what did you buy?
[4:40] <tekgeek> mind you the HDMI cable is free
[4:40] <tekgeek> I didn't buy it
[4:40] <abnormal> so?
[4:41] <abnormal> I got one at radio shack for 120
[4:41] <tekgeek> someone in England is selling this kit and they have sold 572 kits so far
[4:41] <tekgeek> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-STARTER-KIT-FOR-RASPBERRY-Pi-/110970689031?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item19d65e5607
[4:41] <abnormal> ok, I'll look at it.. just a min...
[4:41] <tekgeek> I think its absolutly rude to make people think that this is the price
[4:41] <PhantomS> it's cheaper to up the price when you're out of stock than take down the listing and put it back up again
[4:42] <tekgeek> I have seen people charge a couple hundred dollars on a 20 dollar item
[4:42] <PhantomS> no one would pay that much for it, so no one will buy it while you're out of stock
[4:42] <tekgeek> PhantomS lots of people have bought them More than 10 available / 573 sold
[4:43] <PhantomS> probably not at that price though
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[4:43] <tekgeek> did you not see the ebay ad... 573 of them sold at 395 dollars
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[4:43] <PhantomS> no, click on the sold bit
[4:44] <PhantomS> they all sold at GBP 46.99
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[4:44] <PhantomS> just because the price is currently that doesn't mean it always has been
[4:45] <tekgeek> thats dumb why would they price it like that? it gets me all riled up when I see people gouging on prices
[4:46] <PhantomS> to take a listing down and put it back up later costs money
[4:46] <abnormal> http://www.newark.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-starter-kit/rpi-model-b-starter-kit-w-raspbian/dp/72W4007
[4:46] <PhantomS> if you're out of stock you don't want people buying it, so you hike the price which is free
[4:47] <abnormal> I stay away from Ebay, period..... there's always suppliers that are WAY cheaper...
[4:48] <tekgeek> I buy more than 5k a year off ebay I never find anyone cheaper and I have sold on ebay there is no charge untill you sell an item and its a one click to relist one
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[4:48] <tekgeek> I run a computer repair shop and I beat everyones prices usually by going to ebay
[4:49] <abnormal> ok... gotcha
[4:49] <PhantomS> well, I don't know then. But it's fairly common for someone to just up the price while they're out of stock then put the price back again
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[4:49] <tekgeek> I was looking to see if there were something similar to this at a better price http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Starter-Kit-Pro-Model/dp/B00K6YPULE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1409953890&sr=8-6&keywords=raspberry+pi+kit
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[4:50] <tekgeek> abnormal I looked up newark they are the same price as any other store and they don't give a discount for multiple Pi's
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[4:50] <Mr_Sheesh> Amazon can be pretty good, so can newegg
[4:51] <abnormal> I see... so you buy multiple units and resell... ok, gotcha
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[4:52] <tekgeek> I want to get a good kit so I can play with some experiments and show it to the local school and I would like to sell them a kit but not above what they can go to the store for
[4:52] <tekgeek> sell the kits to the kids
[4:53] <abnormal> but kids have to go to parents and say mommy, daddy can I have a pi kit?
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[4:54] <tekgeek> yes I want the kids to get interested in something that they can learn from not be some brainless zombie who stares at the phone all day
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[4:54] <tekgeek> I want them to have a hobby
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[4:54] <abnormal> why, are you Eben?
[4:54] <tekgeek> I don't want to be the guy who gouges them I already sell things for less than half of what they can get at the store
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[4:57] <tekgeek> I already spent 600 in parts in the past two weeks for repairs
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[5:01] <abnormal> I've spent 0 in everything in the past two weeks... I have 4 pi's, and a BBB
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[6:21] <abnormal> is that all is going on here??? just everyone changing nicks??? might as well call this channel "nickchanger"
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[6:28] <abnormal> or nick'em
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[6:44] <abnormal> more nicks... sheesh....
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[6:58] <CoJaBo> abnormal: you can hide those lol
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[6:59] <abnormal> then it wud sooooo motionless in here...
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[7:06] <CoJaBo> lol
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[7:07] <abnormal> really? RaptorJesus
[7:08] <abnormal> besides linuxmint-chat is so lively....
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[7:10] <RaptorJesus> what?
[7:10] <abnormal> changing your nick...
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[7:36] <RahulAN> Hii all
[7:37] <abnormal> all hee
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[8:36] <RahulAN> any one tried chibios over raspberry pi
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[8:45] <abnormal> http://forum.chibios.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=517&start=10
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[8:47] <RahulAN> abnormal, I am done with the basic tutorial
[8:47] <RahulAN> i want to enable serial uart so that i can get debug statement
[8:47] <RahulAN> i started from here - http://www.stevebate.net/chibios-rpi/GettingStarted.html
[8:49] <abnormal> that is beyond my knowledge. sorry, there is one guy I know that is rpi guru, and is lost_soul and comes in once in a while... usually evenings.
[8:50] <RahulAN> ohkk
[8:50] <abnormal> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/14900/debugging-problem-with-gpio-serial-pins
[8:50] <abnormal> would this help?
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[8:54] <gordonDrogon> why do you need an RTOS, RahulAN ?
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[8:56] <[Saint]> such realtime much wow
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[9:05] <RahulAN> gordonDrogon, Just i was trying to do some realtime stuff
[9:05] <RahulAN> and trying to get how that kernel works
[9:06] <Mr_Sheesh> Sometimes you just plain do need an RTOS, sometimes you can fake it with timers tho :)
[9:06] <RahulAN> here i tried only the led is blinking
[9:06] <RahulAN> and nothing else
[9:06] <RahulAN> no driver nothing else
[9:06] <gordonDrogon> ok. well enjoy.
[9:06] <RahulAN> I want to debug that and try including all myself
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[9:21] <gurke_> good morning. :)
[9:21] <DoctorD90> good morning
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[9:24] <DoctorD90> guys, having to supply a device with 12v, how it can me managed from gpio? like a led for example? :)
[9:25] <Mr_Sheesh> You want to, what, turn an LED on or off, but it's powered by 12V?
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[9:25] <LilBuh> hello in here :)
[9:25] <Mr_Sheesh> Hello, LilBuh
[9:25] <LilBuh> i m looking for an electronic guru ;)
[9:26] <Mr_Sheesh> might be 1-2 in here :)
[9:26] <DoctorD90> yes Mr_Sheesh
[9:26] <DoctorD90> Mr_Sheesh: my question os related to probel of LilBuh :)
[9:26] <LilBuh> hehe
[9:26] <Mr_Sheesh> DoctorD90 - OK, is it a high current LED or just a regular one? 20mA or 5A in other words?
[9:26] <LilBuh> i want to build a boblight/hyperion device
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[9:27] <LilBuh> but made a mistake when ordering the lightstrips
[9:27] <LilBuh> ordered 12v instead of 5v
[9:27] <evil_dan2wik> LilBuh, just the resistors
[9:27] <DoctorD90> Mr_Sheesh: sorry, my question is 'how approch to problem' :P because i havent really it, im just curious about HOW solve outsourcing issues :)
[9:27] <Mr_Sheesh> idk what that is yet? My web browser's over loaded too. 12V light strips but how much total current?
[9:29] <LilBuh> the WS2801 datasheet indicastes that the data/clk needs Vcc*0.8
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[9:29] <LilBuh> so thats 12v*0.8 = 9.6v
[9:29] <LilBuh> the gpio provides 3.3v ...
[9:30] <DoctorD90> gpio can provide at least 5v too :P
[9:30] <LilBuh> and also need to connect the ground of the light strip to the pi gnd
[9:30] <Mr_Sheesh> Oh, OK, WWS2801's :) IIRC those are a 1-wire protocol?
[9:30] <LilBuh> clock and data
[9:31] <LilBuh> + 2 for alim
[9:31] <LilBuh> ( noob in electronics
[9:31] <Mr_Sheesh> OK so TWI or I2C; I haven't done one of them in a while, iirc you have a pull up resister at each end and a transistor at the RPi GPIO pins end to pull it down to communicate
[9:31] <Mr_Sheesh> resistor* sigh
[9:32] <LilBuh> was googling ... and found this http://mitchtech.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/raspi_rgb_led.png
[9:32] <LilBuh> it uses TIP120 power transistors
[9:33] <LilBuh> think it ll do the trick ?
[9:33] <Mr_Sheesh> so 2* (RPi GPIO pin through a 1k resistor to the base of a 2n3904 transistor, emitter to ground, collector to ws2801 pin and a 1kish resistor (maybe 470R?) to +12V? Just a sec while that loads slowly
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[9:35] <Mr_Sheesh> Just about to get my good desktop going, been hobbling on this slow lagtop for too long, 2GHz / 2GB RAM / 30GB PATA HDD is ancient slow :p Desktop's 5.3GHz AMD, 8GB Ram, SATA huge HDDs :)
[9:36] <Mr_Sheesh> Browser is eating most cpu tho, mumble. May take a while, What does the TIP20 do in that circuit? Are those just turning power LEDs on/off directly?
[9:36] <LilBuh> hehe :) gratz :) i m fixing computers ... so i have tons :)
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[9:36] <Mr_Sheesh> I do too; Moving in so I'm just getting things organized here in the chaos cave
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[9:37] <LilBuh> yup seems to do so
[9:37] <Mr_Sheesh> 12 or so good desktops stacked in living room, but behind things to go thryu LOL
[9:38] <LilBuh> lol kept only 2 desktops ... my wife wont allow more ... ( so ... now i m collecting laptops :p )
[9:38] <Mr_Sheesh> OK, you can do that but with a 2N2222 (or 2N2222A or 2N3904 or other small signal NPN transistor, or a logic gated FET if you have those instead (something like an RK7002BT116 or the like that'd turn on at 2.5V or so, so logic gated)
[9:40] <Mr_Sheesh> LOL yeah, I have 2 toughbooks, only space for this other one, 2 other near-identical laptops, 2 more on the electronics table, just have to make space to set them up (going to put some on a KVM switch at first.) And more desktops, lots of them. Before I moved I had 20 desktops in a row on my computer table upper shelf, could use the ones I needed
[9:41] <LilBuh> dont have anything yet ... ordered tons of components from ali express ( mostly capacitors and resistors ) 10 of each values available ( the whole lot for 20 euros :p )
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[9:41] <Mr_Sheesh> Some I'd only fire up once a quarter (386 with my gang EPRom programmer didn't get fired up too often :P)
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[9:41] <Mr_Sheesh> I use mouser, bgmicro, digikey, newark usually; You seen findchips yet? (Search engine for electronics parts)
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[9:43] <LilBuh> nope i m really a noob in electronics ... only really lucky to fix motherboards just by looking at it ... ( and putting them in my kitchen over to reflow smd :p )
[9:43] <LilBuh> oven*
[9:47] <Mr_Sheesh> OK that finally loaded - I'd put resistors in series with the bases of the transistors - You want enough current that ((the GPIO output voltage - 0.7V) / (needed output current in Amps)) * transistor's Beta or hfe is ~= the resistor's value, so for example ((3V-0.7V) / (0.03A)) * 200 = 4.6k, 4200 ohms would work, or a little less, that resistor protects the GPIO pins from too much current
[9:48] <Mr_Sheesh> 1k probably would protect the pins, you want enough current into the transistors base to saturate it (turn it fully on and lock it there) :)
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[9:48] <LilBuh> and what bout the common ground ? is that a problem ?
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[9:50] <Mr_Sheesh> ##electronics is a goos place to ask electronics questions if no one's awake in here, btw. No, the common ground will be fine, best if there's only 1 wire between them so they're just at the same voltage
[9:51] <Mr_Sheesh> I need to look at more of the RPi specs, I'm setting up an order to get parts for an RPi deal that'll plug into the GPIO pins and control some LEDs etc. :) Figuring out what's needed software and hardware-wise yet
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[9:53] <LilBuh> well if you need pwm there is the pi blaster padkage
[9:54] <LilBuh> i m more into software dev... so ... that electronic stuff is really giving me headaches :p
[9:54] <Mr_Sheesh> I probably will use I2C as I need a microcontroller on the pc board. So I'll have it PWM the LEDs and handle IO etc. :)
[9:55] <Mr_Sheesh> I do both sides, embedded stuff, it's fun to solder in code or recode in wire & solder :)
[9:55] <LilBuh> you can buy really cheap arduinos boards on ali express if you are not in a hurry :)
[9:55] <LilBuh> 2-3 euros a piece with free shipping
[9:56] <LilBuh> but it takes 1 month to get delivered
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[9:57] <Mr_Sheesh> Yes; Some Arduino Pro minis are pretty cheap through ebay, too. Might not meet the full temp. specs on 328p chips but for most development they do fine :)
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[9:59] <Mr_Sheesh> LOL AGnd or PGnd tho? :p
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[10:03] <therion23> SpeedEvil, so is the cake
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[10:04] <LilBuh> mmm how could i draw the shematics to show you if i got everything right ?
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[10:05] <Mr_Sheesh> Paint, then upload it somewhere like photobucket or the like
[10:05] <LilBuh> downloading fritzing
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[10:05] <Mr_Sheesh> I don;t use that, hmmm, you could screen capture it tho (prntscrn)
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[10:31] <DJHenjin> anybody around?
[10:31] <[Saint]> Approximately 400 anybodies.
[10:32] <[Saint]> Just ask your question, if someone can, they'll answer.
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[10:33] <DJHenjin> well, wasnt initially going to ask a question,...
[10:33] <LilBuh> arrrg fritzing crashed
[10:34] <DJHenjin> but since you put it that way, , whats the hghest switching frequency i should expect to attain on a b+ board, not using the pwm pin,. for a pwm, doesnt matter what lang, im fluent in all
[10:35] <DJHenjin> also, what frequency would you recommend for a LED dimmer
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[10:38] <canton7> LED PWN, couple of hundred Hz? no point in going too quickly
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[10:40] <DJHenjin> the max freq while related is actually for a different project im hoping to hit at least 30MHz
[10:40] <Mr_Sheesh> You want over 120Hz or so isn't it? It could be HW PWM though, IDK yet
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[10:48] <gordonDrogon> you won't get 300MHz via software, however some pins can be re-configured as clock outputs
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> * or 30MHz
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[10:49] <[Saint]> DJHenjin: ^ this man is somewhat of a guru on the topic of all things GPIO
[10:49] <d3lphi> Hello all. I am using Raspbian (latest version, up-to-date) and would like to use my RaspberryPi for showing a website in kiosk mode. Therefore I edited /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart and commented out the three first lines (starting lxpanel, pcmanfm and xscreensaver).
[10:49] <DJHenjin> gordonDrogon: well,.. what can i expect to get?
[10:49] <d3lphi> Then I added a new line like "@midori -e Fullscreen -a http://some.url" it works fine and as expected, but:
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> DJHenjin, what are you actually trying to achieve?
[10:50] <DJHenjin> high frequency PWM
[10:50] <d3lphi> how can I give an operator/user the opportunity to safely shut-down the RaspberryPi? When he presses CTRL-ALT-DEL he doesn't get an option to shut it down.
[10:51] <d3lphi> I could shut-down the RPi with SysRq-keys (R-E-I-S-U-B) but this is not a humad key-combination for ordinary users :p
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[10:51] <gordonDrogon> DJHenjin, there are 2 hardware PWM generators. Use those.
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[10:52] <gordonDrogon> d3lphi, separate button wired to a gpio line - with a little program to check the button then halt the pi?
[10:52] <DJHenjin> gordonDrogon: what can i expect to attain as highest frequency was my first quetion, and i would also say i deem it most important
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[10:53] <DJHenjin> i cant decide what to use the thng for if i dont know what it can do
[10:53] <gordonDrogon> DJHenjin, best to get & read the hardware manual - but you can feed the PWM generators from any of the Pi's clocks - it's fed from the 19.2MHz one by default.
[10:53] <DJHenjin> would there be a link?
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[10:54] <gordonDrogon> also bear in-mind that "frequency" and "pwm" do not have a 1:1 correlation. The actual frequency will be dependant on the size of the pwm range register too.
[10:55] <DJHenjin> the "frequency" is how many on
[10:56] <DJHenjin> and of cycles fully complete in 1 second, and duty is % of 1 cycle that it is in on state is it not?
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/README.md
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> frequency is 1 / the total period of the repeating waveform
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[10:57] <Mr_Sheesh> frequency is how often the PWM is turned on and off, the % duty cycle is how many % (of 100%) that the PWM is "on"
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> the period of the waveform is the number of time-slots (one or zero)
[10:58] <gordonDrogon> the time-slot time is determined by the frequency of the input clock.
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> it's slightly more complex in the Pi as it has 2 PWM modes - classic mark:space and (the Pi's default) which is a balanced mode where it balanced out the 1's and 0's over the whole wave period.
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> the net effect is the same, but the output frequency changes.
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[11:00] <DJHenjin> so its basically a pwm in a set clock,...
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[11:02] <DJHenjin> does the pi have high resolution timer support, or is the resulution only millisecond?
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[11:02] <gordonDrogon> in mark:space ratio it's a fixed frequency with a variable mark:space ratio. but the frequency is determined by a combination of the input clock frequency and the width of the pwm signal (ie. the total number of bit positions in the cycle)
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> you can get microsecond timing on the pi using gettimeofday()
[11:02] <DJHenjin> how about nanosecond?
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> but do bear in-mind that on-top of that you have a multi-tasking, multi-user operating system.
[11:03] <DJHenjin> only with stock OS's
[11:03] <gordonDrogon> go read the hardware manual. I gave you the link ...
[11:04] <d3lphi> gordonDrogon: cannot I just say that CTRL-ALT-DEL should not start the task manager, but "shutdown" the system?
[11:04] <d3lphi> or define a new hotkey for executing a command like "shutdown -h now" ?
[11:04] <gordonDrogon> d3lphi, possibly, but I've never looked at that sort of thing in lxde.
[11:04] <d3lphi> where do I configure that?
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[11:05] <DJHenjin> k well, dont take offense to me leaving,... cuz i have to shut down this computer, i may or may not be back in a bit... thanks for the answers
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> I suggest googling for lxde configuration.
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> DJHenjin, have fun!
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[11:14] <lilbuh> back
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[11:15] <lilbuh> mr_sheesh ? http://imgur.com/Zrz4HmT
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[11:21] <Mr_Sheesh> I'll see if I can get it to load. Browser's dying a slow death of 100% CPU usage :/ Going to be SO good to get more boxes going...
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[11:29] <Mr_Sheesh> -mumbles- starting to look like I'll have to give up and restart the browser
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[11:29] <lilbuh> take your time :)
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[11:30] <lilbuh> what ive done is probably wrong
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[11:33] <Mr_Sheesh> c1 and d1 are the clock and data lines? They probably will need pullup resistors to +12V, at the transistors. (And I'd swap to 2N2222A or 2N3904 NPN small signal transistors, whatever's the usual suspect in your area, IDK if you use those or 2SC parts or ???)
[11:33] <Mr_Sheesh> The ws2801's run off 12V, not 5V, also? IIRC
[11:34] <lilbuh> yup 12v not 5v ( not part available in the library that shows 12v )
[11:34] <Mr_Sheesh> Aah :)
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[11:35] <Mr_Sheesh> I use kicad nowadays usually, used to use the DOS version of Circad a long time ago, long time ago I was using Pads PCB and OrCad but that's been a while :)
[11:36] <Mr_Sheesh> A lot of people use Eagle, but it's user interface makes my brain hurt, so far
[11:36] <lilbuh> so replace the TIP120 by a 2n2222a ? and where do i add that resistor ? :p
[11:36] <lilbuh> ( i reaaly dont get it :p )
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[11:38] <Mr_Sheesh> The pull-up resistors pull the C1 and D1 lines to +12V, so you need maybe a 1k there from the (iirc) rightmost terminal of the transistors to +12V
[11:38] <Mr_Sheesh> that pulls the line up to +12V unless the transistor is turned "on"
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[11:40] <gordonDrogon> ws2801's run at 5v.
[11:41] <gordonDrogon> it should be possible to drive them directly from the Pi's GPIO without transistors though - I'm sure I've seen people just hook up to the SPI port.
[11:42] <lilbuh> i buyed there: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/50-Pcs-Lot-8mm-WS2801-T1515-DC12V-Square-Bare-Board-RGB-Full-Color-Pixel-Addressable-Node/1935515642.html
[11:42] * gordonDrogon checks the data sheets... Vhi is 0.8 * Vdd, so it needs 4v input signals...
[11:43] <Mr_Sheesh> Oh, they were saying they were 12V'ers; I haven't used that part, yet
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[11:44] <gordonDrogon> I'm not convinced myself - the ws2801 really is a 5v part.
[11:45] <gordonDrogon> intersting little boards - that you have to wire up each one yourself. you can get these on tape though.
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[11:47] <lilbuh> yup but not for 17 euros :p
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[11:47] <gordonDrogon> indeed...
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[12:01] <lilbuh> so what do you think ? i wire everything in 5v ?
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[12:08] <Mr_Sheesh> Try the WS8201 with 5V, see if it lights up properly?
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[12:10] <lilbuh> oki i ll try ( when i ll get the shipment )
[12:10] <lilbuh> thanks again guys :)
[12:11] <Mr_Sheesh> You could also ask the seller if it is indeed 12V; could be intentionally set up to use 12V ofc.
[12:12] <lilbuh> tried that ... but no anwser yet ... ( asked a week ago )
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[12:13] <SpeedEvil> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29105635 - a massive achievement in germany.
[12:13] <SpeedEvil> (oops - wrong channe)
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[12:18] <RoBo_V> Afternoon Guys !
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[12:21] <tanuva> s/germany/bavaria/
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[12:36] <mapps> hi all
[12:36] <mapps> can someone help me please
[12:36] <mapps> :D
[12:37] <tanuva> just ask your question ;)
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[12:38] <mapps> yes
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[12:38] <mapps> i installed openvpn on the pi - setup the ca crt/ca key client key/cert and server config ...but the clien doesnt get anywhere just connection refused
[12:38] <mapps> connecting to the local IP over the network...cant think what it is
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[12:45] <mapps> gah renamed my config file..but it still doesnt seem to load - checking ps aux and it snot there
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[12:50] <shiftplusone> mapps, just check the logs on the pi
[12:51] <mapps> but where
[12:51] <mapps> i cant see anything in var/log/syslog
[12:51] <shiftplusone> read the manual for the server config
[12:51] <mapps> gah no help already have
[12:52] <mapps> ah found the error
[12:52] <mapps> :D
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[12:52] <shiftplusone> excellent
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[13:43] <pksato> reading this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/gert-vga-adapter/ , have a idea, connecting old VGA ramdac to RPi. :)
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[13:51] <lost_soul> neat
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[13:58] <knob> Good morning all! =)
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[14:08] <DoctorD90> from led on rpi b+, how can i understand when rpi has started and ready to accept ssh/vnc/and make other option?
[14:11] <pksato> on board led?
[14:12] <pksato> none of can have this information. act stoping are good clue.
[14:14] <lost_soul> don't machines typically send a broadcast packet or something when they are up and ready to accept network traffic
[14:14] <pksato> no
[14:14] <lost_soul> if so, isn't their a way he could monitor the traffic and look for that
[14:14] <lost_soul> hmm, I thouught they did
[14:16] <pksato> connect leds on gpios, and a program to monitor if some process is runing, and on of off led.
[14:16] <pksato> s/of/or
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[14:17] <DoctorD90> uhm...so the 'easiest' way, is wait the ACT led stop to blink (as it does in boot sequence)
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[15:09] <pksato> DoctorD90: or modify behavior of act led after boot, to always on, and off on SD activity. (I think that it is possible)
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[15:12] <evil_dan2wik> Oh poop
[15:12] <evil_dan2wik> I lost the SD card and backup image for my Pi
[15:13] <IT_Sean> oh poop indeed.
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[15:19] <d3lphi> hey all. I have following issue and cannot understand that: I am autostarting Midori through /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart by command "@midori -e Fullscreen -a http://192.168.0.123". But when Midori autostarts and opens the specified URL I get an "error" window which says...
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[15:19] <d3lphi> ... that the host could not be contacted. When I immediately click on the button "Retry" it opens the page. I can reproduce that issue with any other URL given, also public ones (www.google.com for example)
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[15:20] <d3lphi> I tried quiet everything and don't know why on the first start of Midori this is happening and how to fix. Any clues?
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[15:21] <IT_Sean> network not yet up and running?
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[15:22] <IT_Sean> try waiting 30 seconds then opening the URL... see what that does.
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[15:26] <d3lphi> IT_Sean: I already tried with the "sleep 30" command before... I already tried different lines in the "autostart" file of LXDE config. Nothing helped
[15:26] <d3lphi> IT_Sean: I couldn't explain myself, why the network should be not ready. I double-checked quite everything in /etc/network/interfaces and it seems all valid.
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[15:27] <d3lphi> if so, the 30seconds delay would have helped
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[15:36] <d3lphi> it seems that this user has the same problem ==> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/79330/trying-to-open-a-browser-on-startup-on-my-raspberry-pi unfortunately the bash scripts are not the fine art
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[15:38] <skyroveRR> Hello, I don't have a dupont connector, but I still would like to connect my raspberry pi to a PL2303 USB converter, after connecting the TX, RX and GND wires to the pi and launching minicom, all I see is garbage, I also turned off h/w and s/w flow control and set the bits to 8N1, still I get the garbage output, and suggestions on how to solve this?
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[15:39] <skyroveRR> s/and/any
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[15:40] <IT_Sean> garbage output usually means you've got the baud rate wrong
[15:40] <shiftplusone> what baud rate?
[15:40] <skyroveRR> 115200
[15:40] <skyroveRR> The one suggestion in the elinux tutorial
[15:40] <shiftplusone> yup, that's the right default
[15:40] <skyroveRR> * suggested. Sorry.
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[15:44] <skyroveRR> Got it! got some output.
[15:44] <skyroveRR> "Linux..."...
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[15:45] <skyroveRR> I'm actually trying to troubleshoot why slackware ARM won't boot up on the card.
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[15:45] <skyroveRR> Garbage again...
[15:45] <leio> maybe it's build for ARMv7?
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[15:45] <skyroveRR> No, for v6.
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[15:46] <leio> and with what kernel
[15:46] <skyroveRR> Uh..
[15:46] <skyroveRR> Unsure :\
[15:47] <leio> doubtful slackware's works, unless it's specifically built for RPi
[15:47] <skyroveRR> It IS built for the pi.
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[15:47] <leio> ah ok, then no obvious reason :(
[15:47] <leio> well, unless it's built in a model B era, and you got a B+ :D
[15:48] <skyroveRR> :D
[15:48] <skyroveRR> The site says that it will work for B+.
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[16:04] <shiftplusone> skyroveRR, you should mention when you're not asking questions about officially supported distros. slackware could be setting the baud rate to whatever it wants
[16:04] <shiftplusone> check cmdline
[16:05] <skyroveRR> The baud rate is 115200, and slackware doesn't do things automagically for its users, shiftplusone .
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[16:05] <RaTTuS|BIG> ther RPI is not 5V tolerant - the usb adapters have to wotk at 3.3V
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[16:06] <shiftplusone> there's that too
[16:07] <djazz> hi
[16:08] <shiftplusone> But there's nothing automagic about changing the baud rate. It's almost an arbitrary value and the only reason they'd pick 115200 would be to be consistent with the rest. I'll take your word for it though.
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[17:48] <coldjack> How long does it take to get the license for mpeg2?
[17:48] <IT_Sean> Money.
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[17:49] <shiftplusone> coldjack, a varying period of time
[17:49] <coldjack> ok
[17:49] <coldjack> thx
[17:50] <shiftplusone> panic if you don't have it in a few days
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[18:03] <kill_-9_1> Hi. Is there the docs for DPI( the VGA board uses that)?
[18:04] <kill_-9_1> ( that board works with RPIupdate blob)
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[18:05] <shiftplusone> no
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[18:07] <kill_-9_1> shiftplusone: OK
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[18:09] <Tachyon`> heh
[18:09] <Tachyon`> DSI? that display interface we never got any support for?
[18:09] <kill_-9_1> Tachyon`: DPI. Another one which has support in the blob.
[18:10] <Tachyon`> ?
[18:10] <Tachyon`> it's a DSI connector I thought, can it do anything else?
[18:11] <shiftplusone> Tachyon`, what does the VGA board haave to do with DSI? =S
[18:12] <Tachyon`> I'm unaware of any vga board, I'm also unaware of the promised support for displays on the DSI connector
[18:12] <Tachyon`> despite it being now years later
[18:13] <shiftplusone> Tachyon`, when they announce what they're working on, people complain that it's not ready yet. When they release without talking about earlier, people complain that they weren't told.
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[18:38] <ShorTie> sounds like a darn if we do and darned if we don't
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[18:42] <kill_-9_1> Tachyon`: There is many display interfaces in a Pi: DSI, HDMI, DPI,SMI,...
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[18:47] <IT_Sean> ABC
[18:47] <IT_Sean> QWERTY
[18:47] <IT_Sean> :p sprry.
[18:48] <MY123> IT_Sean: AZERTY
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[18:48] <IT_Sean> Blasphemy!
[18:48] <MY123> ( and QWERTZ)
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[18:51] <MY123> IT_Sean: or the ABC feature phone keyboard.
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[18:51] <SrRaven> Do you guys think a RasPi could do something similar (or have an idea what could) http://www.zalman.com/global/product/Product_Read.php?Idx=750
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[18:52] <IT_Sean> MY123: I hate the ABC feature phone keyboard.
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[18:53] <MY123> IT_Sean: Like me. I use it only to tap phone numbers.
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[18:55] <DoctorD90> guys, someone know how can i install jdownloder on rpi? :P
[18:55] <MY123> DoctorD90: Install the Oracle JVM and just run the jar.
[18:56] <DoctorD90> uhm.....thx! i will check!
[18:57] <DoctorD90> lol
[18:57] <DoctorD90> to install oracle jvm?
[18:57] <DoctorD90> what packages is?
[18:57] <IT_Sean> MY123: or you could do like I, and get a real phone. :p
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[18:58] <MY123> DoctorD90: Installed per default in Raspbian latest (the full JDK)
[18:58] <DanDare> DoctorD90, I think you can try OpenJDK package
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[18:59] <DanDare> MY123, oh.. didnt know that.. so DoctorD90 forgive what I said
[18:59] <DoctorD90> ok, so i have only to lunch some java files :P thx!
[19:01] <MY123> DanDare: OpenJDK is way too slow... Oracle did better.
[19:02] <DanDare> MY123, yeah, very true. Debian wheezy doesnt come with Oracle JDK though.. so it must be some reaspbian thing
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[19:03] <MY123> DanDare: Do a apt-cache search oracle-java in a Raspbian system from NOOBS.
[19:04] <DanDare> ok
[19:04] <MY123> (And run java --version)
[19:04] <DanDare> I dont have any noobs install, just the raspbian netinstall
[19:05] <tero> anyone want a free broken rpi b model ? the sd card slot is kinda broken... if you hold it with hand really tight it works
[19:05] <DanDare> Anyway, it's present on raspbian netinstall as well
[19:05] <tero> if you are from eu country I can send it for free
[19:05] <MY123> DanDare: The netinstall needs the archive.raspberrypi.org repo(enabled by default , normally)
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[19:05] <MY123> ( not the main raspbian.org archive)
[19:06] <DanDare> I see
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[19:42] <unimatrix9> any tweaks to speedup web browsing on the py ?
[19:42] <MY123> unimatrix9: Using Epiphany.
[19:43] <SpeedEvil> or lynx
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[19:43] <MY123> SpeedEvil: I use elinks when possible.
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[19:46] <unimatrix9> is it me, or is almost all the software for the raspberry pi not really optimised for the little machine, with an exception of the omxplayer, wich runs really good...
[19:47] <MY123> unimatrix9: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install epiphany && epiphany-browser in the terminal.
[19:48] <unimatrix9> yeah i did that just now, after i also updated the firmware
[19:49] <MY123> unimatrix9: Does the videos work?
[19:49] <unimatrix9> no not really, i am using an other way around the video problem ..
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[19:52] <unimatrix9> installed iceweasel and a addon called "Video WithOut Flash 1.4.2" , but before that i install xterm , so to run video's with the command : xterm -fullscreen -fg black -bg black -e omxplayer
[19:52] <unimatrix9> wich works fine..
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[19:53] <unimatrix9> it downloads the video and play's it ( choose mp4 , and open in new tab - iceweasel with addon installed )
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[19:53] <Perdouille> Hello !
[19:53] <unimatrix9> hi
[19:53] <unimatrix9> there
[19:53] <unimatrix9> you of the great Perdouille clan
[19:54] <Perdouille> wut ?
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[19:55] <Perdouille> Anyway
[19:55] <Perdouille> Does anyone know if it's possible to upload a .mp3 file to a web page, then listen the mp3 directly on the raspberry ?
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[19:55] <unimatrix9> that brings me back to what i said before, is the software build for the raspberry not really optimised ...
[19:56] <unimatrix9> for the little machine ?
[19:56] <SpeedEvil> unimatrix9: the pi X is not accellerated at all
[19:56] <unimatrix9> i noticed
[19:56] <SpeedEvil> this makes it ridiculously slow in many cases, compared to a PII/200
[19:57] <unimatrix9> is this because of the "closed" source chip on the board ?
[19:57] <Jgar0605> Perdouille, as long as you can actually listen to music from the pi through hdmi to definatley can
[19:57] <unimatrix9> and , why can omxplayer use the 3D accel , and X not ?
[19:58] <Perdouille> I just wonder how to auto listen to a MP3 uploaded on the webpage
[19:59] <Jgar0605> what will you be using for/with it
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[19:59] <Perdouille> It's just to try something
[19:59] <Jgar0605> you can yes
[19:59] <Perdouille> like I connect it to a speaker, then I send a MP3 from my PC and it listen
[19:59] <Perdouille> I'm going to eat, brb
[20:00] <unimatrix9> have a nice meal..
[20:00] <unimatrix9> Perdouille, use an fast hack, make use of an usb memory stick for you mp3
[20:00] <unimatrix9> then you can eat and listen to the mp3 ..
[20:01] <unimatrix9> i think apt-get install sonata , gives you a player, but i am not sure ..
[20:02] <MY123> unimatrix9: There is a KMS/Gallium3D driver in alpha (OpenGL 2.1).
[20:03] <unimatrix9> and take a look at MPD for streaming music from netplayers to raspberry pi
[20:03] <unimatrix9> MY123 url ?
[20:04] <MY123> unimatrix9: http://anholt.livejournal.com
[20:04] <Jgar0605> speaking of usb sticks, my roommate blindy flipped all the circuit breakers (twice) in my house. didnt fry my stick immediately until later, when i plug it in and look at dmesg it saysitconnected normally but dissconnects immediatly afterwards
[20:04] <Jgar0605> did it fry a connector pin.
[20:04] <unimatrix9> thank you
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[20:06] <MY123> unimatrix9: As written, alpha-state software, don't try everything more complicated that glxgears/glamor/es2gears/...
[20:07] <unimatrix9> i see, yes i understand its an work in really alpha progress
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[20:09] <unimatrix9> i think the raspberry pi can be cool , if an when , the software that runs on it is especially build for optimum speed and use of the device , wich at the moment , really is not..
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[20:10] <MY123> unimatrix9: Can you write assembly code(or C)?
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[20:11] <unimatrix9> a well, its been around since 2012, so it needs time to get it up to speed..
[20:11] <unimatrix9> alas , i cant write assembly code ( c++ )
[20:12] <unimatrix9> come from ubuntu desktop background - enduser support --
[20:12] <MY123> unimatrix9: There is an additionnal CPU on the Pi (dual-core but sadly without MMU).
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[20:12] <MY123> The nonMMU trashes *everything*
[20:14] <MY123> the start.elf runs on it
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[20:15] <unimatrix9> how do you get system info from pi ? i tried lshw , but that does not give much ..
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[20:18] <MY123> unimatrix9: lshw can't give much. Most of the SoC is accessed with RPC from the ARM to the dual-core CPU.
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[20:20] <unimatrix9> ah the video is indeed dual core ..
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[20:23] <MY123> unimatrix9: See github.com/raspberrypi/userland. (It uses 100percent VPU (the name of the second CPU))
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[20:27] <unimatrix9> thanks for the info ..
[20:29] <MY123> Even the shader compiler is elsewhere...
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[20:30] <MY123> (they did release it in Feb. as a separate driver)
[20:30] <unimatrix9> i see you really care.. would be great if some more people get to work on it so it runs better and better..
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[20:34] <unimatrix9> any way .. got to go, thank you for the good chat, and take care , have a nice day !
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[20:47] <mapps> hmm
[20:47] <mapps> how can i make the wireless start on boot?
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[20:49] <ShorTie> wicd might help
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[20:51] <gordonDrogon> you can just add it into /etc/network/interfaces ...
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> that works for me.
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[20:53] <Tachyon`> I think if you're using anything more than open/wep you need more than just /etc/network/interaces don't oyu?
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[20:57] <DanDare> Tachyon`, yes and no. For WPA you will need other packages but you can make it working at boot by adjusting interfaces file
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[21:06] <mapps> gordonDrogon, for wifi?
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> sure.
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[21:06] <gordonDrogon> wpa2 works just as well.
[21:06] <mapps> how can you add that to /etc/network/interfaces tho
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> you need the right runes in /etc/network/interfaces, but once setup it works great.
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[21:06] <gordonDrogon> hang on - I'll boot up a Pi with Wi-Fi and get the details.
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[21:07] <mapps> runes?
[21:07] <mapps> whats that
[21:07] <mapps> thanks mate
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[21:08] <gordonDrogon> runes - google it.
[21:08] <mapps> ok :)
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[21:09] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/interfaces.wifi.txt
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> you need to create /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
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[21:10] <gordonDrogon> see also: http://unicorn.drogon.net/wpa_supplicant.conf
[21:11] <gordonDrogon> and that's all there is to it. Obviously use DHCP if you need it, or change the IP address to one on your own LAN.
[21:12] <mapps> thanks :)
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[21:18] <DanDare> Its possible to determine password and SSID on interfaces file directly, no need to deal with wpa_supplicant.conf doing this way
[21:19] <pksato> if is wpa_psk, yes.
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[21:24] <jbaiter> is somebody here familiar with gpu programming/omx/mmal on the pi?
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[21:24] <jbaiter> i have an idea but i'm currently not sure if it is really feasible/worthwile doing
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[21:26] <jbaiter> i'd like to read images into the gpu, apply transformations like resize, crop or rotate to them and read them back as encoded image data
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[21:27] <jbaiter> as i understand it, this is feasible by chaining the video_decode -> (resize ->) video_encode components together
[21:27] <jbaiter> but what i can't figure out is how i would rotate the image
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[21:29] <jbaiter> since the only omx component that seems to support rotation is video_render, which i can't connect to image_encode
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[21:38] <Perdouille> Little question: I got a project for school: I have to do a "connected" plant (Check if there's water, send an email if not, check luminosity...)
[21:39] <Perdouille> do you think it's possible to do this with a Raspberry ? (With humidity sensor, luminosity sensor, ...)
[21:39] <Encrypt> Perdouille, Totally
[21:39] <Encrypt> Plus a Wi-Fi adapter
[21:39] <Encrypt> (Or ethernet if possible)
[21:39] <Perdouille> And switch on / off a motor ? (To maybe put water automatically)
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[21:40] <Encrypt> Perdouille, YEs :]
[21:40] <Perdouille> Nice, thanks :)
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[21:43] <gordonDrogon> Perdouille, oh yes - there's a school that was showing this off at the last CamJam too I think.
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[21:46] <InHisName> I try to use wvdial and it aborts saying can't find ppp0. I see TONS of people have that same issue but few solutions to try. Most are unanswered.
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[21:53] <DanDare> InHisName, do you have a modem attached to pi? Is modem recognized, kernel modules loaded etc ?
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[21:56] <leio> sigh, USB HDD enclosure was in use for other stuff for a couple days, and now again randomly rootfs off of USB HDD doesn't work with no real explanation :(
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[21:58] <leio> on B+, with B it works instantly with same SD card and USB HDD
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[22:17] <InHisName> DanDare: I believe so. Its a 4G/3G dongle, it thinks it is a modem and talks via AT commands. It shows up in lsusb.
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[22:20] <DanDare> InHisName, Im not used to these dongles but if it creates a serial port you can try 'dmesg | grep tty' to sort out how the port was named upon install
[22:21] <InHisName> DanDare: /dev/ttyUSB0 <-- is that it ?
[22:21] <DanDare> InHisName, you should check if the dongle is Linux support, what are the drivers for the device and check is drivers were loaded also
[22:22] <DanDare> *supported
[22:22] <Jusii> network-manager works greate with 3G dongles, you can use it via cmdline
[22:22] <InHisName> Supposedly. The web page with sprint has steps and all is well until I get to the can't find ppp0 step.
[22:23] <DanDare> InHisName, probably, do you have anything else attached to USB besides the dongle?
[22:23] <DanDare> InHisName, if it can really be managed by network-manager, thats a great, easy option to get it going
[22:23] <InHisName> a PS/2 to USB for keyboard and mouse. Also Edimax wireless dongle
[22:24] <DanDare> InHisName, anyway, by the tty prefix I believe thats the modem really, but not sure
[22:24] <InHisName> They mention that but give no steps. Maybe its too easy to list steps.
[22:24] <DanDare> network-manager is really easy, just run the gui and add connections etc
[22:25] <InHisName> school bus arrival, daddy on call
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[22:39] <oldtopman> Woo, got the old pi running again :D
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[22:47] <DanDare> Been using a 850mA power supply and it was doing just OK, with the wifi dongle and all. I dont know where is the damn wall adapter and just using a 700mA instead
[22:47] <DanDare> Now, my pi is hang... remotely!!
[22:47] <DanDare> :(
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[22:49] <IT_Sean> 700mA is not enough to run a Pi.
[22:49] <DanDare> thus making my spy scripts inactive :(
[22:49] <IT_Sean> the absolute minimum requirement, as per the specs, is 750mA. 1A or more is highly recommended.
[22:49] <DanDare> IT_Sean, I guess its ok for a bare pi without nothing attached, nothing more
[22:49] <DanDare> I see
[22:50] <DanDare> so it lacks 50mA atm
[22:50] <IT_Sean> and on that, my day is coming to a close. Bye.
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[22:50] <DanDare> Bye
[22:50] <DanDare> his day really finishes all of sudden :P
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[22:53] <ShorTie> i like a 2amp supply
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[23:58] <shiftplusone> ew.... looks like MS didn't learn their lesson after windows 8... http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/09/leaked-windows-9-screenshots-show-a-work-still-in-progress/
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