#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-09-18

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[0:01] <Leucomelas> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9g8Hz-AngM !!! Fu***** Sh** :D:D:D:D
[0:02] <gordonDrogon> Leucomelas, it's a family-friendly channel.
[0:03] <Leucomelas> \o/
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[0:03] <gordonDrogon> and I never did understand that ambient back-light thing at all.
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[0:04] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, it's a nice gimmick.
[0:04] <shiftplusone> Not a feature a sane person would use on a daily basis, but nice to show off.
[0:05] <shiftplusone> kind of like the LED strip on the SLICE, I guess.
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[0:06] <Leucomelas> nothing, it's the principle of wanting what we haven't :)
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[0:08] <gordonDrogon> well slice isn't intended to back-light the wall based on what's on the screen...
[0:08] <gordonDrogon> but maybe people get swayed by flashing light technology :)
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[0:09] <shiftplusone> I mean that it's a gimmick, not that it's an ambilight
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[0:10] <gordonDrogon> ah well. dream time.
[0:10] <gordonDrogon> zzz
[0:10] <shiftplusone> 'night
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[0:18] <niston> trying to get sqlite to work with mono on the berry
[0:18] <niston> its being a hoe -.-
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[1:22] <dobby156> any recommendations for half height sd cards?
[1:22] <Leucomelas> Hey, I don't understand how raspberry can capture vocal for execute domotical command :/
[1:24] <ShorTie> i recommend buying a pi sdcard
[1:24] <ShorTie> they are specially made for the pi
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[1:27] <PragmaticAnarchy> where can i get a complete dependencys list for maynard?
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[1:28] <dobby156> ok thanks
[1:28] <PragmaticAnarchy> i use a lowcost 128mb sdcard just to boot my usbdriver root
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[1:35] <niston> I just tried writing a c# app on windows and have it run on the raspi with mono.
[1:35] <niston> tried working with Mono.Data.Sqlite, and it fails horribly on wintendo.
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[1:51] <[Saint]> 2014-09-13 14:38:17 [4] kernel: Detect remote SYN attack, ip addr:83.170.73.249 Duration: 19 hours, 47 minutes, 7 seconds - Ongoing
[1:51] <niston> heh
[1:51] <[Saint]> I guess my throttling is a bit too harsh.
[1:52] <[Saint]> Freenode is getting caught in the crossfire.
[1:52] <[Saint]> (that appears to be a freenode server bouncing off my SYN throttling)
[1:53] <[Saint]> This one is interesting, though, well...mildly so:
[1:53] <[Saint]> 2014-09-12 23:47:15 [4] kernel: Detect remote echo chargen attack, ip addr:192.3.131.25 Duration: 4 hours, 22 minutes, 2 seconds
[1:53] <[Saint]> "IP address is numbered 93.180.5.26. This IP address is fixed within Russian Federation, and related to Moscow, Moscow City. IP Country code is RU. IP address is assigned to "Federal State Educational Institution of Higher Pr". In organization "Highload Lab". IP address latitude is 55.752201 and longitude is 37.615601."
[1:54] * saedelaere (~quassel@unaffiliated/saedelaere) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[1:54] <[Saint]> Its like *iiiiiiight* next to the Kremlin. ;)
[1:54] <[Saint]> *riiiiight
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[1:55] <[Saint]> The Kremlin be try'na gen my chars.
[1:55] <[Saint]> I like my chars to remained ungened, thank you, Moscow.
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[1:58] <niston> hehe
[1:58] <niston> Im downloading cygwin
[1:59] <niston> so I can compile fsckin mono on windows
[2:00] <niston> they only have an old version in windows installer form.
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[2:01] <niston> and the first damn thing I try to do with mono/raspi/visualstudio fails due to a documented bug that's long been patched - yet the windows version mono project offers on their site is _so_ outdated that the patch isnt in.
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[2:02] <niston> of course the bug only affects windows w/ .NET 4.0+
[2:02] <niston> why else would the windows installer NOT have the patch!
[2:05] <ozzzy> I guess you'd have to ask the mono maintainers
[2:05] <niston> not worth the trouble, the page says they're working on a new version already. I have no idea for exactly how long it says that already, though.
[2:05] <[Saint]> Why my telco hates me - and also a fairly odd buffer overflow in the packet count:
[2:05] <[Saint]> Interface Data Pkts Errs Rx drop Data Pkts Errs Tx drop
[2:05] <[Saint]> eth0 178.39TB 999999999999 0 0 849.83TB 794624 0 0
[2:06] <niston> dude.
[2:06] <[Saint]> (upstream/downstream)
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[2:06] <niston> stop downloading the interwebz
[2:06] <ShorTie> 849 terra bytes ??
[2:07] <niston> whats the uptime on that box?
[2:07] <ShorTie> i want to know what type of connection it is
[2:07] <[Saint]> Its funny you should say that actually. About six months ago I offered some cable technicians working in the pouring rain some coffee, and happened to ask what they were doing. It turned out they were upgrading the cabinet because, quote "some <naughty expletive> is downloading the whole <naughty expletive> Internet!".
[2:08] <ShorTie> nsa might be jelous, lol.
[2:08] <[Saint]> I suspect those numbers may be subject to buffer overflow as well and just displaying grabage.
[2:09] <[Saint]> Its two bonded VDSL2 connections, capable of around 50/20 each.
[2:09] <niston> I ran a small wireless ISP that had about 36 regular subscribers (it was a prepaid type operation). they would use about 6 to 12 TB a month.
[2:09] <[Saint]> I can definitely account for around 4TB of traffic over the past 4 months.
[2:10] <[Saint]> I also run a small wireless telco. :)
[2:10] <niston> heh
[2:10] <niston> what kinda rf gear u use?
[2:10] <[Saint]> There's no specific claus in my grandfathered contract that prohibits my reselling the connection.
[2:12] <[Saint]> I have two 5GHz 30dBi parabolic directional antennas up on the roof, and a bunch of repeater stations dotted around.
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[2:12] <[Saint]> My broadcast range from those antennas is around 400m line-of-sight
[2:13] <[Saint]> (mind you, the connection is pretty shabby past ~200m - but usable, hence the repeater stations in client homes)
[2:14] <[Saint]> raspis with two cheap-ass wireless N 2.4/5GHz nano-dongles
[2:14] <niston> had a similar setup, ubnt 5ghz dishes and omnis, and 2.4GHz inhouse installations.
[2:15] <[Saint]> Clients also get 200GB of offsite storage, and 128GB "NAS" provided by the raspi repeater station.
[2:15] <[Saint]> The repeater stations are also anonymizing APs.
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[2:16] * [Saint] realises its somewhat a sin to call this setup a NAS, but technically, it is. ;)
[2:16] <niston> got any webcams up?
[2:17] <niston> like, weather/traffic cams at the repeater locations
[2:17] <[Saint]> I don't, no.
[2:18] <[Saint]> They're not exactly far apart.
[2:18] <[Saint]> I could just look out my window. ;)
[2:18] <niston> oic ^^
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[2:18] <niston> the NAS, is it 128GB shared ?
[2:18] <niston> for the repeater users
[2:19] <[Saint]> each repeater unit has its own 128GB USB storage.
[2:19] <[Saint]> Well...technically, its really only 126GB or so, since I use 2GB for the root partition.
[2:20] <niston> what kinda customers do you serve? :)
[2:20] <[Saint]> Just Joe Average home users that want all-they-can-eat WiFi for $12/month
[2:20] <[Saint]> I also run a Tor node here.
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[2:21] <niston> I don't trust it :P
[2:21] <niston> Tor, that is
[2:21] <[Saint]> Its been pretty widely analized.
[2:22] <[Saint]> It /is/ a defense force contribution, after all.
[2:22] <niston> indeed.
[2:22] <[Saint]> Those guys do know their crypto.
[2:22] <[Saint]> I don't use it myself, either, but I relize a lot of people do.
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[2:23] <[Saint]> And an exit node in a country with zero censorship is a godsend for some people.
[2:23] <niston> true, true...
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[2:49] <ShorTie> well thats getting old
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[3:11] <abnormal> yes it is... very old...
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[3:24] <kij__> i'm looking to do a few things on startup: 1. mount my usbflash 2. run an X desktop 3. run xchat. 2 and 3 need to be in that order and 3 can't happen before 2 because it needs the desktop.. what would be the best way to do that?
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[3:25] <kij__> i'd also like to run a vncserver with certain settings, ive tried multiple different ways of doing it from articles i've read and even though the vncserver process seems to be running when it boots, it never works and i have to re-run it
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[3:26] <kij__> so 4. run vncserver on boot
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[3:32] <kij__> wow my wireless card keeps randomly going out
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[3:41] <ShorTie> are you putting a ':1" at the end of the vnc address ??
[3:41] <kij__> no, :0
[3:41] <ShorTie> try 1
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[3:43] <ShorTie> as for the wireless card, how big is your power supply ??
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[3:43] <kij__> 5v 2a
[3:44] <ShorTie> that should be ok
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[3:44] <ShorTie> might try wicd-curser for it
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[3:50] <[Saint]> kij__: /etc/init.d/ is parsed in alphabetical order, so you can guarantee order of execution.
[3:50] <kij__> umm, you mean line by line?
[3:51] <[Saint]> 01my_cool_script.sh will launch before 99my_cooler_script.sh
[3:51] <kij__> ok
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[3:51] <[Saint]> see: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/28/Making_scripts_run_at_boot_time_with_Debian
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[3:52] <[Saint]> also https://www.debian-administration.org/article/212/An_introduction_to_run-levels
[3:53] <[Saint]> But, there's really quite a great number of ways to achieve this.
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[3:55] <[Saint]> you might have to do one of either:
[3:56] <[Saint]> a - check if xorg is up before launching vncserver
[3:56] <[Saint]> b - add a long enough wait to however you're launching vncserver in the end and pray xorg is up
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[3:59] <[Saint]> Whether you want these tasks to run as root or as a particular user also changes things
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[4:00] <kij__> i want them to run as pi
[4:01] <[Saint]> Oh, I forgot, you can also use /etc/X11/Xsession.d/startup-local to guarantee that <foo> will launch when X is up
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[4:03] <[Saint]> kij__: ok, then, /etc/init.d/mycoolscriptthatdoesthings seems liek the go for you
[4:04] <[Saint]> http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/252209-running-a-script-at-login-on-debian
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[4:04] <[Saint]> the above link even gives an example of exactly what you're trying to do with vnc
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[4:06] <[Saint]> Its parsed as a shell script, but you can run as bash/zsh,rsh,whatever tickles you.
[4:07] <[Saint]> Actually, I'm not sure about the default...pretty sure it sh unless otherwise specified.
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[4:25] <kij__> i don't understand this, i had 'iface wlan0 inet manual' at the end of my interfaces file (which shouldn't be there i don't think) so i removed it because i already had another line configured as dhcp with my login and pass, and now the wifi turns on immediately as it boots but it sends and receives no packets
[4:35] <kij__> oh. it says 'misplaced option'
[4:35] <kij__> im pretty sure my interfaces file is fine though
[4:35] <mythos> use a nopaste service
[4:36] <mythos> pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
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[4:37] <mythos> hmm... ok. my pastebinit needs -i for the input file now
[4:38] <kij__> http://pastebin.com/E0Fi2HK1
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[4:40] <kij__> brb
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[4:44] <kij_> it looks fine doesnt it?
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[4:47] <mythos> kij_, i'm quite sure, that you can't have both... wlan0 configured as inet dhcp and manual with wpa-roam
[4:47] <kij_> the thing is when i removed the manual line (cause it looked wrong) thats when it gave me the misplaced option error
[4:47] <mythos> remove the wlan0 configuration above, if you want the raom one and add the psk secret to your wpa-supplicant.conf
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[4:49] <mythos> kij_, then remove everything after your first iface wlan0 block
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[4:49] <mythos> everything starting with iface wlan0 inet manual
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[4:51] <kij_> that did it
[4:51] <kij_> thanks
[4:51] <mythos> np
[4:51] <CoJaBo> Is there anything specific about what is and isn't possible with encoding/decoding video on the pi?
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[4:52] <kij_> i just need to figure out why my wifi dongle has been turning off sporatically now
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[4:53] <mythos> kij_, in most cases it is a driver bug
[4:53] <mythos> realtek?
[4:53] <mythos> CoJaBo, and that is a real broad question
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[4:54] <CoJaBo> mythos: I was hoping for an up-to-date wikipage or something covering it
[4:54] <kij_> i'm using a TP-LINK TL-WN722N
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[4:55] <mythos> CoJaBo, last time i played with encoding (some weeks ago) , it did work after struggling for half of a day
[4:56] <CoJaBo> I cant even find anything on whether or not the license things are required
[4:56] <mythos> gstreamer is quite picky
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[4:56] <CoJaBo> Or what's supported in hardware, hardware-accelerated by the GPU, or only possible in ARM :/
[4:56] <mythos> h264 encoding is enabled by default
[4:57] <mythos> you don't need a licence for it
[4:57] <CoJaBo> Someone needs to document this stuff then lol
[4:57] <mythos> decoding does require one, if i recapitulate it right
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[4:57] <mythos> hw end/dec is supported by the gpu
[4:58] <mythos> the application processor has nothing to do with it
[4:59] <mythos> and you need for raspbian (wheezy) a thirdparty source for gstreamer
[4:59] <CoJaBo> It'd be weird to encode and not decode..
[4:59] <mythos> hmm? why?
[4:59] <mythos> just pipe it over the network
[5:00] <CoJaBo> Granted, I don't really need decoding I suppose, since I don't have a display that can connect to the pi anyway..
[5:00] <mythos> both isn't really possible anyway
[5:01] <CoJaBo> I've seen it's possible to use it as a mediacenter tho, but nothing really says if you need the codec licenses to do that.. :/
[5:01] <mythos> for h264 decoding, i'm quite sure you need the licence
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[5:03] <CoJaBo> I can't find anything firm on that, is what's frustrating.. It just says "MPEG license". Some places say it's for "all of MPEG-LA", others say it's "only for MPEG-2, and the foundation licenses H264 seperately".. neither of those claims link to anything to back them up
[5:05] <CoJaBo> Even more confusing is there's a tool to list codec support, and it includes exotic things like MJPEG and WMV9; the demo shows them as enabled, mine says disabled, and there aren't licenses for either of those so.. wtf? >_>
[5:05] <mythos> hmm... ok. seems you only need the license for mpeg2 and vc1
[5:05] <CoJaBo> Is there a source for that?
[5:05] <mythos> http://www.raspberrypi.org/new-video-features/
[5:06] <CoJaBo> ..damn. I had that one open in a tab already
[5:06] <CoJaBo> Dunno how I missed that, heh
[5:07] <CoJaBo> Most of what I have is MPEG-2 (because I have an MPEG-2 capture card), but converting that to h264 wouldn't be a problem :P
[5:08] <mythos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#Specifications
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[5:10] <mythos> what me troubles the most, is the bad usb2.0 host
[5:11] <mythos> everything is cpu driven... and if the load is too high, the usb bus collapses
[5:14] <CoJaBo> I haven't run into any issues with it yet, thankfully.. I'm able to max out my wifi (granted, it sucks, but the pi actually beats my laptop by a wide margin.. wtf >_>)
[5:15] <[Saint]> That really says something about your laptop.
[5:15] <[Saint]> o_o
[5:15] <CoJaBo> I got it free <_<
[5:15] <[Saint]> :))
[5:15] <CoJaBo> I actually already replaced the original wifi card with what was supposed to be a much better one
[5:15] <CoJaBo> (it came with one that's only compatible with Windows, that I've been trying to sell ever since..)
[5:16] <[Saint]> can someone do me a small favor and pastebin the output of 'nmap --open 119.224.31.72' please?
[5:16] <CoJaBo> ..what is that scanning? o_O
[5:16] <[Saint]> my router.
[5:17] <[Saint]> ah - nevermind.
[5:17] <CoJaBo> There's plenty of online scanners
[5:18] <kij_> i am actually suprised at how fast my wordpress server is running on my pi
[5:18] <CoJaBo> "ShieldsUP" is pretty decent (even tho the advice it gives you is total BS)
[5:18] <NedScott> CoJaBo: "Dom adds: As an aside, the GPU can hardware decode H264, MPEG1/2/4, VC1, AVS, MJPG at 1080p30. It can software (but still vector accelerated) decode VP6, VP7, VP8, RV, Theora, WMV9 at DVD resolutions. We are restricted due to licensing what we can support. We should be able to support VP8, MJPG and Theora, as I believe they are license free."
[5:18] <kij_> it was slow for awhile, i put w3 cache plugin on it, and im not sure if thats what did it but out of nowhere it really picked up speed, even the admin page is quick
[5:18] <NedScott> http://www.raspberrypi.org/libraries-codecs-oss/
[5:20] <NedScott> also, popcornmix (Dom) on the XBMC forums might have some posts with more specific info, IIRC
[5:20] <NedScott> like what profiles are working
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[5:22] <CoJaBo> NedScott: ..huh, the RAM is soldered directly on top of the package. I didn't even notice that lol
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[6:20] <buzzsaw> ello
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[6:32] <toxie> good night, does anybody knows if the rpi b+ works with uelastix
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[7:40] <neutrino--> hello again toxie !!!
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[7:40] <neutrino--> http://www.raspberrypi.org/tag/uelastix/
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[7:44] <cybr1d> womp
[7:44] <cybr1d> oops
[7:44] <[Saint]> bah - needs opus/libopus support
[7:44] <[Saint]> VOIP...YUNOOPUS?
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[8:52] <CoJaBo> Any recommendations for streaming video from a pi? ugh..
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[8:53] <Mikaela> I use minidlna which is supported by our smart TV.
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[8:56] <CoJaBo> From like, a camera I mean
[8:57] <CoJaBo> it'd need to have hardware h264 encode..
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[9:09] <CoJaBo> ..there aren't any maintained hardware encoder tools? :/
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[9:35] <CoJaBo> ..damn. well, streaming video TO the pi works.. incredibly
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[9:36] <CoJaBo> It handles 1080i60 without breaking a sweat; my fricking laptop can't even handle that >_>
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[9:39] <CoJaBo> If I ever get color video and/or audio working, I am def. using this thing as a mediaplayer o_O
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[9:42] <clikclik> Hi all, I am completely new to the irc word and raspberry pi as well where should I get start please
[9:44] <CoJaBo> clikclik: What do you want to do with it, would be a start :P
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[9:44] <clikclik> I am more interest in home automation project
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[9:49] <CoJaBo> clikclik: Even that's kinda a broad category :P
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[9:52] <clikclik> yes actually I just want to know if there is some interesting cheap project for newbies ?
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[9:57] <CoJaBo> Lots
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[10:01] <CoJaBo> Now if only transcoding was this easy :/
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[10:09] <Bhaal> How do I stop the pi camera's analog and digital gains from changing? I lock ISO at 100 but the gains still shift around when I don't want them too
[10:10] <CoJaBo> a lot of people seemed to be complaining about that..
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[10:12] <Bhaal> CoJaBo: Its very annoying :/ :)
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[10:13] <CoJaBo> I can't even figure out how to encode video :/
[10:13] <Bhaal> CoJaBo: I am trying to get a good transition from day to night time (0 to 6000000microsecond exposure)
[10:13] <Bhaal> But those pesky gains keep getting in the way
[10:14] <CoJaBo> The usual end to those threads is someoen saying to try a USB webcam instead
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[10:14] <CoJaBo> The funny part is, the USB webcam threads tend to end in people saying to get a picam instead..
[10:15] <CoJaBo> Klatyzarc.
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[10:29] <skylite> i have installed pptp-linux to my raspberryPI but I cannot run the pon/poff command as a regular user because it calls pptp command located in /usr/sbin and my regular user dont have that as PATH. Since everything in /usr/sbin has 655 chmod, is it ok to add this PATH to my user or is there any other sollution for this?
[10:29] <skylite> I'm on raspbian
[10:30] <Bhaal> CoJaBo: ahahaha
[10:31] <Bhaal> skylite: It's odd that you don't have /usr/sbin in the users path
[10:31] <Bhaal> Well to me it's odd...
[10:32] <Bhaal> I hate it when I encounter a system which doesn't have /usr/sbin in its user paths, or root for that matter
[10:32] <skylite> should it? I tought that path is for systemwide binaries that a regular user should not use
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[10:42] <Bhaal> Every debian/ubuntu system I have come across has it in the path settings...
[10:43] <Bhaal> skylite: A lot of stuff is stored there that users use on a regular basis, or so I thought...
[10:44] <skylite> ok
[10:44] <skylite> thx
[10:44] <neutrino--> has debian moved /bin too ?
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[10:52] <Viperisthebest01> I bought a raspberry pi from allied electronics yesterday and I reset my password today but it won't accept the password it gave me when logging in
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[10:54] <CoJaBo> ?
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> Viperisthebest01, do you have another Linux PC you can put the SD card in?
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[10:57] <Viperisthebest01> I'm not talking about the raspberry pi itself, I'm talking about the allied electronics website
[10:58] <gordonDrogon> Oh. Well, just follow their usual "lost password" procedure which you'd do with any old website.
[11:00] <Viperisthebest01> I did but it's not accepting the password, I need to login to change the password
[11:02] <Viperisthebest01> it says to type in username/email address, and I type in the email address
[11:03] <Viperisthebest01> I'm going to call their help number tomorrow
[11:03] <gordonDrogon> why can't you just click on the "lost password" link?
[11:04] <gordonDrogon> unually all they need if the email address you used to register with.
[11:04] <gordonDrogon> *usually
[11:04] <Viperisthebest01> I did it that way before
[11:04] <gordonDrogon> and did they email a link?
[11:04] <Viperisthebest01> with a password yes, but the password doesn't work
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> give them a call then.
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[12:38] <neutrino--> hmm for some reason when i cloned my sdcard using dd , it doesnt seem to be workingproperly
[12:38] <neutrino--> the new sdcard does not boot
[12:38] <shiftplusone> what command did you use?
[12:39] <neutrino--> first dd if=/dev/sdb of=rapsi.img
[12:39] <shiftplusone> (paste, don't type out)
[12:39] <shiftplusone> yup
[12:39] <neutrino--> theres just two lines .. then "dd of=/dev/sdb if=raspi.img"
[12:40] <shiftplusone> aye, that would work fine
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[12:40] <neutrino--> i also run sync before pulliung out the cards
[12:40] <shiftplusone> (other than the raspi/raspi typo
[12:40] <shiftplusone> )
[12:40] <neutrino--> hmm , ill try extracting an image again , i burnt the image twice already .. it does not work
[12:41] <shiftplusone> check the card on your pc
[12:41] <shiftplusone> if you have a fat32 partition and bootcode.bin is present, you should have enough to see what the problem is on the pi itself by looking at the green LED when you power it up
[12:42] <neutrino--> whats default behaviour ?
[12:42] <shiftplusone> b or b+ ?
[12:43] <neutrino--> b
[12:43] <shiftplusone> off by default, then flash with sd card activity.
[12:43] <shiftplusone> if bootcode.bin is not found it will glow very feintly (you might not see it)
[12:43] <neutrino--> ok
[12:43] <shiftplusone> if any other file is not found, you'll see a specific flash pattern
[12:44] <neutrino--> hmm i have noticed that week glow when i put it an empty sd card once
[12:44] <neutrino--> its not that glow for sure
[12:44] <neutrino--> it does blink a few times
[12:45] <shiftplusone> any specific pattern or just flash a few times and stop?
[12:45] <neutrino--> twice
[12:45] <neutrino--> and one shorter blink
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[12:45] <shiftplusone> so it gets as far as loading the kernel it seems. Got a serial to usb adapter?
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[12:46] <neutrino--> hmm must look for it .. i do have one
[12:47] <neutrino--> oh wait .. i need to make a level convertor too then
[12:47] <shiftplusone> probably not
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[12:48] <shiftplusone> but if you don't know for sure, a voltage divider on the pi's rx line wouldn't hurt.
[12:48] <neutrino--> the ones i have do .. dont think a voltage divider will cut it .. its the RS232 coltages
[12:48] <neutrino--> *voltages
[12:49] <neutrino--> negative voltages represent 1
[12:49] <neutrino--> okay there is something wierd
[12:49] <neutrino--> the sdcard which has the image ..
[12:49] <shiftplusone> oh... forget it
[12:50] <neutrino--> is 16 gb , when i dd'd it extracted only 7.5 gb
[12:50] <shiftplusone> I was talking about ttl serial converters
[12:50] <shiftplusone> sure you didn't do something silly like dd if=/dev/sdbX ?
[12:50] <neutrino--> nope
[12:51] <neutrino--> does dd have a maximum capacity or something that it can copy ?
[12:53] <leio> if input is done, it'll finish
[12:53] <leio> if output is across boundaries before input is depleted, it should error
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[12:53] <leio> (and your system won't boot)
[12:53] <neutrino--> hmm .. okay ..
[12:54] <neutrino--> what if i do this .. i dd the first partition , but the second partition is just copy pasted
[12:54] <neutrino--> that should work right ?
[12:54] <leio> then the MBR parameters need to be equal for that partition
[12:54] <leio> same block counts, etc; then might work
[12:55] <leio> (actually not sure, maybe it may be larger and you just lose some space)
[12:55] <neutrino--> hmm yes there is a bug on th 8gb partition when i try to plug it into my lappy
[12:55] <shiftplusone> it can be larger, the fs knows its own size
[12:55] <shiftplusone> which is why resize2fs works
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[12:56] <shiftplusone> neutrino--, don't copy/paste. Use rsync.
[12:57] <shiftplusone> (to make sure permissions are okay)
[12:57] <neutrino--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8371441/
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[12:58] <neutrino--> shiftplusone: the fat partition is fine
[12:59] <neutrino--> the above message comes up when i try to mount the bigger partition
[12:59] <neutrino--> so if the kernel is booting my MBR and stuff are fine on right now right ?
[12:59] <shiftplusone> So no idea why dd fails to copy the sd card image? No error?
[13:00] <neutrino--> nope it just completed
[13:00] <shiftplusone> Got enough free space?
[13:00] <neutrino--> on my hdd yeah ..
[13:00] <shiftplusone> hm
[13:00] <shiftplusone> well... I'll leave you to it >.>
[13:00] <neutrino--> okay leave that aside
[13:00] <neutrino--> i wana know this
[13:00] <neutrino--> right now my sdcard is booting the kernel
[13:00] <shiftplusone> yup
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[13:00] <neutrino--> it just cant mount the other filesystem
[13:01] <shiftplusone> by the sounds of it
[13:01] <neutrino--> from the second partition
[13:01] <shiftplusone> so you can mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdX
[13:01] <neutrino--> so i just format that partition and rsync the stuff
[13:01] <shiftplusone> aye
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[13:01] <shiftplusone> sorry, /dev/sdXn
[13:01] <neutrino--> nothing is address specifc in that partition right ?
[13:02] <shiftplusone> "address specific"?
[13:02] <neutrino--> nothing which requires byte to byte copying
[13:02] <shiftplusone> ah, no
[13:03] <neutrino--> like MBR or stuff
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[13:03] <neutrino--> cool ill give that a try ..
[13:03] <shiftplusone> nothing requires that. Worst case scenario is that you re-create the partition table, format both partitions and rsync the files to each one.
[13:03] <shiftplusone> (use -a with rsync)
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[13:04] <shiftplusone> (and sudo)
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[13:07] <neutrino--> woah .. i ran gparted and it gave a pop saying /dev/sdb cant have partition outside disk !!!
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[13:09] <shiftplusone> you sure the card you're copying to isn't smaller than the original?
[13:10] <shiftplusone> (if they're both 16gb, that's not necessarily the case)
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[13:10] <neutrino--> it is smaller
[13:10] <neutrino--> the second one is 8 gigs ..
[13:10] <shiftplusone> oh
[13:10] <shiftplusone> then what the hell were you trying to do with dd?
[13:10] <neutrino--> actually while copying i forgot about that
[13:10] <shiftplusone> of course you need to adjust the MBR
[13:12] <neutrino--> wont simply deleting the extended partition and reformating be enough ? i dont get that error anymore
[13:12] <shiftplusone> that's what it does
[13:13] <neutrino--> cool
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[13:17] <neutrino--> is it possible to mount raspi.img ?
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[13:17] <shiftplusone> yeah
[13:17] <shiftplusone> what's the output of 'file raspi.img' ?
[13:17] <neutrino--> dos/mbr bootsector
[13:17] <shiftplusone> all of it
[13:17] <shiftplusone> or is that it?
[13:18] <neutrino--> yup
[13:18] <neutrino--> thats all of it
[13:18] <shiftplusone> ah, you have a stupid version of file which doesn't parse the partition table.
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[13:18] <shiftplusone> but yeah, you get the start sector of the partition you want and multiply it by 512
[13:18] <shiftplusone> you can use parted to find that out then
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[13:19] <shiftplusone> then mount -o loop,offset=that_number raspi.img /mnt
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[13:20] <neutrino--> cool ...
[13:20] <neutrino--> whats your version of file ?
[13:21] <neutrino--> im running 5.19
[13:21] <neutrino--> *my distribution distributes 5.19
[13:22] * gordonDrogon wonders what/s going on.
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[13:23] <shiftplusone> Don't have a .img to check if it gives the full output, but it's file-5.14
[13:23] <shiftplusone> pretty sure debian's file gives all the info as well
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> wheezy is file 5.11
[13:23] <neutrino--> i believe debian must have some alias with some more switches
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> you're trying to clone a 16GB SD card to an 8Gb one?
[13:24] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, neutrino-- was trying to dd a 16gb card onto an 8gb card and now is doing all sorts of gymnastics to rsync the files across
[13:24] <shiftplusone> neutrino--, that would make sense
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[13:25] <gordonDrogon> Hm. it ought to be easy if you have a Linux PC with an SD card reader (famous last words).
[13:26] <shiftplusone> neutrino--, just checked and yeah, the mint version of file doesn't give all the details either.
[13:26] <shiftplusone> manpage time
[13:26] <shiftplusone> file -k
[13:27] <neutrino--> yup
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> you need to use fdisk (I like cfdisk) to create 2 new partitions on the new SD card. 1st is FAT32, 2nd in linux). Then run mkfs -t vfat on the first partition and mkfs -t ext4 on the 2nd. Pop that SD out. Put original in, then mkdir p1 p2 ; mount and rsync the first partition into p1, the 2nd into p2, unmount & pop the original out, put new in, then reverse the rsync process... simples ...
[13:28] <shiftplusone> well.... look at the relevant partition's startsector and *512
[13:28] <neutrino--> each sector is 512 bytes
[13:28] <neutrino--> ?
[13:28] <shiftplusone> yup
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[13:34] <neutrino--> dd did something funny while extracting the image .. im still getting wrong fs type / bad superblok errors
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[13:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> Warning: Only 30177 of 30179 MByte tested.
[13:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> Test finished without errors.
[13:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
[13:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> Writing speed: 8.16 MByte/s
[13:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> Reading speed: 16.8 MByte/s
[13:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> H2testw v1.4
[13:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> oops sorry
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[14:11] <benxyzzy> Is Pi3D the best option for 3D accelerated graphics? Is it the most popular? Are there any alternatives?
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[14:15] <shiftplusone> using opengl es directly is probably the most sensible option
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[14:15] <shiftplusone> depends on how much complexity you need
[14:16] <shiftplusone> and whether you want to learn anything
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[14:49] <abkumar> has anybody done home video surveillance & security using RPi with IP based cameras ?
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[14:54] <SpeedEvil> abkumar: the 'motion' project may be useful
[14:54] <SpeedEvil> however, the Pi may be considerably underpowered
[14:57] <abkumar> thanks @SpeedEvil but can't we use it to store the video on a NFS based share ?
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> abkumar, you can stream from a Pi Cam to an NFS share without any issues.
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[15:01] <gordonDrogon> but if you have an IP based camera, then get it to talk to the server directly?
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[15:03] <Belliash> hello
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[15:04] <abkumar> thanks gordonDrogan you are right
[15:05] <abkumar> I will try procure with NFS access functionality :)
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> I only have one IP camera - I think it must be about 7 years old now and it can FTP to a server, but not stream. I'd hope that more modern ones were more capable.
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> might not solve the thing there you only want to capture in it detects movement though.
[15:09] <abkumar> anything that can upload to a network share (FTP/NFS/CIFS) will work for me thanks you guys for your expert help appreciate that ;)
[15:10] <Belliash> is it possible to speed up a bit XBMC's UI interaction during playback?
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[15:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> overclock
[15:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> use openelec
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[16:00] <Gadgetoid> Ahoy gordonDrogon!
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[16:03] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, Afternoon.
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[16:03] <Gadgetoid> Just whipped up a devLib for dot3k's backlight, based on the PiGlow one, wiringPi makes it so easy!
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> neat :)
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> I've not had a time to look at dot3K yet )-:
[16:05] <Gadgetoid> I've been working on a slightly ambitious menu framework in Python, works for me though!
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[16:12] <gordonDrogon> :)
[16:12] <gordonDrogon> I guess it's quiet there this week!
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[16:50] <lost_soul> I'm wondering if anyone would happen to know if the raspbian net-installer on github (https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst) uses the updated firmware that makes the sound slightly better than the original firmware?
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[16:51] <lost_soul> I can't seem to find anything that talks about the firmware used on the page
[16:52] <shiftplusone> lost_soul, it pulls the firmware from the raspbian packages
[16:52] <shiftplusone> and I mean THE raspbian, not the foundation's repo.
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[16:54] <lost_soul> shiftplusone: okay, thanks for the information. I think it would be the one I'm referring to. I got the firmware by running rpi-upgrade or whatever
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[17:06] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon, very quiet!
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[17:20] <DMackey> Whats the cheapest place in the states to get a B+ RPi?
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[17:21] <shiftplusone> probably newark or that 3 letter one I forget the name of
[17:22] <DMackey> I found one on eBay for $41.99 shipped from New York
[17:22] <DMackey> I was in Chicage last weekend, a place called Microcenter had them for $29 BUT some smuck bought all 300 of them before I got there
[17:23] <abnormal> that was wicked of him
[17:24] <DMackey> yeah really, I about shat my britchees when the guy at Microcenter told me $29 for an RPi B+
[17:24] <abnormal> I know some ppl like to buy whole lots then resell to make profit
[17:25] <DMackey> Thats what I figurte the guy did
[17:25] <DMackey> Yup, cheapest on ebay is the $41.99 shipped I guess.
[17:25] <abnormal> the seller should have limited the buy per person
[17:26] <DMackey> Money talks I guess, Not like they wouldn't have sold them all but to ONE person. Ahh well early bird gets the worm
[17:26] <abnormal> go to adafruit.com they ship free
[17:26] <DMackey> yeah but I live in NY so I have to pay TAX also
[17:26] <DMackey> I've bought a lot of stuff from Adafruit.
[17:27] <abnormal> so do I I live near Ithaca
[17:27] <DMackey> checking anyways...
[17:27] <DMackey> Syracuse here
[17:27] <abnormal> Ii bought most of mine from Newark.com but the shipping is high
[17:29] <DMackey> No free shipping on Adafruit, $4.25
[17:30] <DMackey> + tax :(
[17:30] <abnormal> o dang... sorry
[17:31] <DMackey> thats cool, I'll snag this one on ebay anyways
[17:31] <abnormal> well most of my pi's I bought were cheap until Igot one at radio shack
[17:33] <DMackey> The cheapest 256mb NEW I got for $25 from a friend, thenn when I got my 512mb RPi from Newark
[17:33] <DMackey> $44.95 + ship
[17:33] <DMackey> No one had them on ebay at the time
[17:33] <abnormal> the one at radio shack was the wake up call.... it had the Adafruit PSU and bingo...
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[17:35] <DMackey> THe one thing I hate about the RPi is those Wireless adapters going to sleep. That drove me nuts for awhile
[17:36] <DMackey> I did an update/upgrade now it's working perfect for over 3 weeks.
[17:36] <abnormal> The Adafruit PSU was the answer to my pi issues, cuz I was having intermittent outages then this one solved it, so I bought 3 more from Newark and got rid of the official RPi PSUs
[17:36] <DMackey> I use a PC Psu :) Now power shortage there for the desktop
[17:36] <abnormal> oh yeah about those wifi dongles...
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[17:38] <abnormal> I buy the Ourlink ones that are the size of thumb drives, not the mini ones, and is from Adafruit only
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[17:39] <abnormal> this one particular wifi does not fail me at all
[17:40] <Gadgetoid> DMackey, pop into Maker Faire and get one there?
[17:40] <DMackey> Nice, the ones I have have the enternal antenna, I use a magmount antenna on it, better reception too.
[17:40] <DMackey> Gedgetoid, I'm a ways away from NYC
[17:40] <Gadgetoid> Ahh, you have distance there... don't you... we don't have distance in the UK, everything is next door!
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[17:40] <DMackey> I need to get a bunch of my friends together and go there one of these years
[17:40] <abnormal> you mean Makezine.com?
[17:41] <Gadgetoid> abnormal, http://makerfaire.com/
[17:41] <Gadgetoid> Bunch of our lot are there to represent Raspberry Pi, and Slice
[17:42] <DMackey> nice. I do get on the web and view the videos from there each year as I find them.
[17:42] <abnormal> k, I'll look it up... just a min....
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[17:42] <DMackey> http://makerfaire.com/makerfairehistory/
[17:42] <DMackey> This weekend in NYC
[17:43] <Gadgetoid> With any luck, I'll head there next year!
[17:43] <DMackey> Ok I gotta step out, need to get some cleaning done here in the house
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[17:45] <abnormal> no, you have to go there now so u b there tomorrow! Gadgetoid
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[17:46] <Gadgetoid> abnormal, haha, no chance! I have other responsibilities this weekend!
[17:46] <abnormal> that is the brand of a kit I got from Radio Shack and gave me the good PSU unit
[17:47] <abnormal> cancel the other responsibilities!
[17:48] <abnormal> go to the fair!
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[17:55] <NedScott> DMackey: newegg
[17:56] <NedScott> $36, free shipping: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813142003
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[17:59] <abnormal> Kewl I forgot about Newegg.com
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[18:00] <NedScott> I bought 6 from MCMelectronics the night before the B+ was announced, because they put the order page up
[18:00] <NedScott> got 6 so I could get free shipping
[18:01] <NedScott> and I used a coupon code, which they forgot to prevent
[18:01] <NedScott> so I got B+ with 8GB noobs card for $34 each
[18:01] <NedScott> I just need to sell the ones I won't use on ebay
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[18:05] * [Saint] forgot to set a ccahe limit
[18:05] <[Saint]> finally had cause to check ~/.ccache, its ~240GB
[18:05] <abnormal> lol
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[18:05] <abnormal> hi [
[18:05] <abnormal> hi [Saint]
[18:06] <abnormal> how u?
[18:06] <MY123> [Saint]: A bit much...
[18:06] <[Saint]> That's what managing a half dozen Android trees for about a dozen devices gets you.
[18:07] <[Saint]> (if you're silly enough to forget to set a sane bounds for ccache, that is)
[18:07] <[Saint]> Also, quite well, thank you.
[18:07] <[Saint]> Just waiting for the last of a round of builds to come through.
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[18:12] <takkie> [Saint]: are you in?
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[18:12] <abnormal> NedScott, can I buy some from you for $5 each?
[18:12] <[Saint]> in?
[18:13] <takkie> or around :)
[18:13] <NedScott> ha, no :)
[18:13] <[Saint]> I would say I'm more long and thin, than round, personally.
[18:13] <takkie> [Saint]: i hope you're willing to help me. I'm having troubles with Google Auth on PAM and found in my IRC logs you set it up before.
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[18:14] <abnormal> well why not? NedScott
[18:14] <DMackey> NedScott, Tnx for the heads up on Newegg, they also have a 16gb Samsung microSD card : $7.49 1 per customer though :( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147234
[18:14] <NedScott> abnormal: because I don't want to lose $29
[18:15] <abnormal> be like Saint, give away a few for goodwill
[18:16] <takkie> [Saint]: i've set my sshd to first to PublicKey and the goto keyboard-interactive, but i'm not promted with a QR code or anything.
[18:16] <[Saint]> takkie: OS?
[18:16] <takkie> arch
[18:17] <[Saint]> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Google_Authenticator
[18:17] <takkie> i think i've read that front to back, and back again.
[18:18] <takkie> i'm pretty sure it has to do with PAM, because when i say "auth potential pam_goo.." i get in.
[18:18] * shiftplusone feels like kicking a broadcom engineer for some of the design decisions.
[18:18] <shiftplusone> Too bad they're bunched up right now. =/
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[18:19] <[Saint]> takkie: you should only get the QR code once.
[18:19] <[Saint]> When generating the keyfile.
[18:20] <[Saint]> Its only useful for transferring the nonce to the OTP distributor application.
[18:20] <shiftplusone> You have a peripheral with two ports. The registers are, for the most part the same, but have different offsets and bitshifts. What would be a sane way to write a function to control either if you have to fiddle with lots and lots of registers?
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[18:23] <takkie> [Saint]: actually, i didn't get a QR-code when generating keyfile, guess i'm missing the lib.
[18:23] <takkie> but i did set my authenticator by manually typing the code.
[18:23] <[Saint]> takkie: also keep in mind that all of this will be ignored entirely if you have key based auth with passwords disabled
[18:24] <[Saint]> see: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH_keys#Two-factor_authentication_and_public_keys
[18:24] <takkie> thought that was different from OpenSSH 6.2 and up, having AuthenticationMethods
[18:25] <takkie> guess it is, as mentioned in your link.
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[18:26] <[Saint]> If you have disabled passwords with key based auth, the auth will just go right through.
[18:27] <[Saint]> passwords need enabled as well if you also want the 2-factor prompt.
[18:28] <takkie> just enabled it, restarted sshd, but no dice.
[18:29] <[Saint]> Hmmmm. Odd. Literally all I did to set this up was walk through the arch wiki entry
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[18:30] <takkie> i was hoping it would be that easy for me aswell.
[18:31] <takkie> just now i tried password only with keyboard-interactive.
[18:31] <takkie> it doesn't load pam.
[18:31] <gordonDrogon> since we're talking passwords.... what's your views on an "internet of things" type device accessible via LAN/WAN... This is mostly intended to be used by one person in the same room, and it intended to be easy - so I'm thinking no passwords, LAN only, but it's then open to abuse from others in the same LAN who know its IP address - this might be used in a classroom scenario...
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[18:32] <[Saint]> Whatever you do, make sure you introduce a completely new set of standards.
[18:32] <[Saint]> If there's one thing we need more of, its IoT standards sets.
[18:32] * gordonDrogon reads xkcd too :)
[18:32] <[Saint]> /s
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[18:33] <[Saint]> Perhaps write the standard for IoT standards compliance.
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> this is a sort of dedicated thing, not general purpose at all - I just used the IoT label as an example.
[18:33] <[Saint]> I think your fears are justified.
[18:34] <[Saint]> It does sound like it has the potential to be abused upon discovery.
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> I've seen classrooms of younger folks with Pi's & Minecraft... people writing python to block-fill others minecrafts..
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[18:36] <[Saint]> gordonDrogon: perhaps you could do a client whitelist for known user@host:IP to mitigate abuse potential
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[18:37] <gordonDrogon> limiting it to LAN is a start - easy to read IP/mask and reject connections outside that.
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[18:37] <gordonDrogon> the down-side is making this easy for people to use - without confusing people who do want to lock it down a little.
[18:37] * [Saint] nods
[18:38] <gordonDrogon> the front-end accessing it might be some javascript running on another Pi - my idea was to decouple the Pi with the sensors and the Pi doing the display.
[18:38] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, any input? You know what this is ;-)
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[18:41] <takkie> gordonDrogon: i would setup IoT devices connected to a control server on special vlanY, and the control server accepting commands only when my smartphone can be pinged on vlanX
[18:41] <takkie> not that i have any experience in vlans on linux, only cisco.
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[18:42] <gordonDrogon> takkie, try mentioning that to a current UK teacher and watch their eyes glaze over )-:
[18:43] <takkie> why, you doing this for a school project?
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[18:43] <gordonDrogon> well... it's experimental but may be used in schools.
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> imagine a black box connected to a Pi. box has sensors and lights and motors. another Pi (or the same one) runs up a web browser and loads up some jacascript that then talks to the black box full of "stuff". they use a fancy block type interface (think scratch) to control and do stuff with black box.
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> so anything like that has to just plug in and work.
[18:46] <takkie> there is no such thing as plug 'n play, there's always an exception, as i'm finding out with PAM now.
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> yea - PAM was the start of the Linux bloat IME )-:
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> Unix used to run well in 4MB of RAM (Sun 3) - now look at it )-:
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> ah well. back inna bit. going to make some chupattis.
[18:48] <takkie> enjoy!
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[18:58] <shiftplusone> If you don't need features, there's always riscos
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[19:17] <lost_soul> shiftplusone: do you use that net-install?
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> not bad this time. getting better at them.
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[19:21] <shiftplusone> lost_soul, not recently
[19:22] <lost_soul> shiftplusone: okay, thanks m8... it's giving me an error that I thought you may have also experienced
[19:22] <shiftplusone> what is it?
[19:23] <lost_soul> couldn't validate release..
[19:23] <lost_soul> tells me to press enter to go to a shell or it will reboot.. I guess it's an issue with the bootloader as per https://github.com/guardianproject/lildebi/issues/93
[19:24] <shiftplusone> lost_soul, poke diedrik in #raspbian
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[19:24] <shiftplusone> *diederik
[19:24] <lost_soul> shiftplusone: okay, will do.. ty
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[19:24] <NedScott> so I guess GE makes ovens with ethernet ports
[19:24] <NedScott> like, the kind you put food in
[19:25] <NedScott> I have no words
[19:25] <shiftplusone> Food in ethernet ports?
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> oven with ethernet?
[19:26] <NedScott> and GE released an adapter that works with the Raspberry Pi that talks to the oven
[19:26] <shiftplusone> If I can download food from my oven through my PC, I'm all for it.
[19:26] <NedScott> http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/2gryh5/ge_just_released_a_board_that_lets_you_control/
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> why?
[19:26] <shiftplusone> Saves getting up getting it
[19:26] <NedScott> I don't know
[19:26] <shiftplusone> 'internet of things'
[19:26] <NedScott> I think GE needs to send me money
[19:26] <NedScott> they're wasting it on ethernet ports
[19:26] <NedScott> they might as well give it to me
[19:27] <shiftplusone> the next big thing since 'the cloud'
[19:27] <shiftplusone> I like how you can rename connecting thing to the internet and remote storage and make it a thing.
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[19:28] <gordonDrogon> seems it's USB ports.
[19:28] <gordonDrogon> https://github.com/GEMakers/green-bean
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[19:29] <NedScott> the adapter is
[19:29] <NedScott> I guess it's technically not an ethernet port
[19:29] <NedScott> just RJ45
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[20:10] <niston> compiling mono 3.8.0 on windows
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[20:38] <PuffDragon> hi all, which Machine Vision camera works with the Pi ?
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[20:53] <niston> ofcourse, make failed
[20:53] <PuffDragon> of course
[20:54] <abnormal> what make?
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[20:57] <niston> compiling mono 3.8.0 for windows :)
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[20:58] <niston> I wanna develop in visual studio on my windows box for the raspberry pi in c#
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[21:00] <niston> It worked surprisingly well until, yes... until I begun using SQLite as a database. There's SQLite support built-in to mono, so even the database files would be portable. it appeared so simple, so elegant!
[21:00] <niston> it happens that the windows installer for mono still contains a 3.2 something version
[21:01] <niston> where the current mono release is 3.8.0
[21:01] <niston> and thats where it gets all fun
[21:02] <niston> because exactly the very SQLite part of mono has a documented bug (bug 2148) that prevents it from working on .NET 4.0 or above
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[21:03] <niston> I tried another SQLite implementation and it would fail because its either native or because I use a 64bit machine to develop on, whereas the pi is only 32bit.
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[21:03] <niston> so my option is to compile mono 3.8.0 from source
[21:04] <niston> an undertaking that had me downloading and installing cygwin for hours
[21:04] <abnormal> the Odroid U3 is 64 bit
[21:04] <niston> so I could then download the mono source
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[21:04] <niston> and compile on windows
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[21:19] <PuffDragon> can the pi handle GiGe camera?
[21:19] <PuffDragon> what about CameraLink ?
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[21:20] <abnormal> beats me, but trial/error will tell you...
[21:21] <PuffDragon> very expensive trial/error
[21:21] <PuffDragon> buy camera, find that it doest work
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[21:22] <abnormal> well read up in the pi forums and see which ones work with it...
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[21:23] <ShorTie> what is the matter with the pi camera ??
[21:23] <abnormal> you can buy a cheap USB camera and try that in USB port
[21:25] <PuffDragon> nothing is the matter with the pi camera, its just not good enough for my needs
[21:25] <PuffDragon> I need a bigger sensor and better lenses
[21:25] <abnormal> well buy a Cannon camera
[21:25] <abnormal> they cost abt 600 bux
[21:26] <pksato> no, small sensors, I recomend hasselblad. :P
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[21:28] <PuffDragon> Look at Point Grey Research cameras
[21:28] <PuffDragon> thats the kind of cameras I'm referring to
[21:28] <ppq> i recently got a ximea USB3Vision camera. 1,600€...
[21:29] <ppq> good thing the uni pays
[21:29] <pksato> PuffDragon: you need a camera for that?
[21:29] <ppq> i don't think the pi would be able to handle it, though.
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[21:31] <PuffDragon> pksato, I need something the size of a PI that can capture images from a camera like that
[21:32] <PuffDragon> maybe BeagleBone
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[21:36] <pksato> lens of pi camera can be replaced. Most sensor today are very small, and have good image and sensibility(?).
[21:37] <PuffDragon> I also need it IR
[21:37] <PuffDragon> can the IR filter in the pi camera be removed ?
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[21:38] <pksato> have a version without IR filter, called no-ir.
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[21:42] <gordonDrogon> PuffDragon, the IR filter in the Pi Camera can be removed, however it's very very tricky and a one-way process... However there is the PiNoir camera which already has it removed.
[21:43] <PuffDragon> what is the lens type that camera uses ?
[21:43] <PuffDragon> I forgot how its called
[21:43] <PuffDragon> m42 ?
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> let me google that for you ..
[21:43] <ShorTie> after looking at the gige camera's, i'd sortta so no because the pi doesn't have Gigabit Ethernet
[21:43] <PuffDragon> m12
[21:44] <gordonDrogon> there appears to be m12 adapters for it.
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[21:45] <pksato> or, just put on back of you favorite SLR lens. :)
[21:46] <pksato> or telescope.
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[21:48] <gordonDrogon> I'm planning a 2-camera Pi for my garden soon.
[21:48] <gordonDrogon> one normal, one IR.
[21:48] <gordonDrogon> more for a bit of fun than anything else though.
[21:49] <PuffDragon> NDVI ?
[21:50] <gordonDrogon> eh?
[21:50] <gordonDrogon> Normalized Difference Vegetation Index ?
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[21:51] <Eren97> does the B+ support SDXC?
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[21:53] <Kanerix> I think so?
[21:53] <Kanerix> I think mine worked fine, but I had to vigorously format it
[21:53] <gordonDrogon> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2252
[21:53] <gordonDrogon> that link suggests yes
[21:53] <gordonDrogon> " vigorously format it" ??
[21:54] <gordonDrogon> what did you do? Shake it until the bits aligned?
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[21:55] <niston> nail them bits down!
[21:55] <gordonDrogon> heh... going to vigorously beat up some bread dough. back later.
[21:55] <Kanerix> basically
[21:55] <Kanerix> just a sec
[21:58] <Kanerix> I got this and it works fine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220814
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[22:04] <Eren97> what's difference between Raspberry Pi Model B+ (B Plus) and Raspberry Pi Model B+ (B Plus) 512MB
[22:05] <Eren97> on Amazon
[22:06] <shiftplusone> the title the seller put up
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[22:06] <Encrypt> Yes
[22:06] <Encrypt> There is only one B+ version
[22:07] <shiftplusone> One has 512MB written next to it, the other doesn't.
[22:07] <Kanerix> ^
[22:07] <Eren97> it is both "Raspberry"
[22:07] <Eren97> different price
[22:07] <Eren97> *Raspberry Pi
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[22:07] <pksato> kit and only rpi ?
[22:07] <Kanerix> Unless they add an 'e' to the end of it and actually ship you a pastry instead of a microcomputer
[22:08] <Eren97> nope both only rpi
[22:08] <pksato> link?
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[22:11] <Eren97> german amazon
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[22:14] <shiftplusone> why does it matter?
[22:14] <shiftplusone> it's the same thing but with a different price and title
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[22:15] <shiftplusone> the official distributors are RS and Farnell. If someone puts it up on amazon, they can charge whatever they want for it.
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[22:17] <Eren97> shiftplusone: it was "Raspberry Pi" tho
[22:17] <Kanerix> so?
[22:17] <Eren97> the seller
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[22:17] <Kanerix> Doesn't mean it's legit
[22:17] <shiftplusone> The sellers can call themselves whatever they want too
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[22:18] <shiftplusone> To the best of my knowledge, there is nobody authorised to trade on Amazon in the raspberry pi foundation's name. A link would be helpful
[22:19] <Kanerix> ^ this
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[22:24] <pksato> different batch or/and description from supplier.
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[22:28] <Eren97> http://www.amazon.de/Raspberry-Pi-Model-Plus/dp/B00LPM6U06/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=8-1&keywords=Raspberry+Pi+b%2B
[22:28] <Eren97> http://www.amazon.de/Raspberry-Pi-Model-Plus-512MB/dp/B00LPESRUK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1411072124&sr=8-2&keywords=Raspberry+Pi+b%2B
[22:29] <PuffDragon> anyone here used an Odroid ?
[22:29] <Eren97> shiftplusone
[22:30] <pksato> different supplier.
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[22:30] <Eren97> they use their name doe
[22:30] <shiftplusone> The question is who is 'they'
[22:31] <shiftplusone> What does "Verkauf durch ElevenFirst Ltd. und Versand durch Amazon." mean?
[22:31] <niston> elevenfirst ltd is the seller, amazon does the logistics
[22:31] <Eren97> oh well
[22:31] <GentileBen> Why oh why oh why did you not bother to translate that with Google, shiftplusone?
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[22:32] <shiftplusone> Why should I?
[22:32] <niston> he saves on bandwidth :P
[22:32] <Eren97> btw, does using the rpi as a media server in the network, connected to a hdd, make sense?
[22:32] <shiftplusone> It's not my problem and I'm asking a question that will lead Eren97 to the answer.
[22:33] <shiftplusone> Eren97, yup, it makes sense. But don't expect high speeds on network transfers.
[22:33] <Eren97> when I watch over a smart tv
[22:33] <Eren97> yea thats why I ask shiftplusone..speed
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[22:34] <shiftplusone> Expect something between 5Mbit to 50Mbit, depending on your setup.
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[22:34] <Eren97> rpi <LAN> router <WIFI> Smart TV
[22:34] <shiftplusone> What bandwidth would the files be?
[22:34] <shiftplusone> *bitrate
[22:34] <Eren97> ugh
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[22:35] <Eren97> hold on
[22:35] <shiftplusone> I mean, the SLICE (uses the same SoC as the pi) can play bluray over the network just fine.
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[22:36] <Eren97> ya DVD or bluray quality
[22:36] <Eren97> lets say 15,5 mbps shiftplusone ?
[22:37] <shiftplusone> I think it'll be fine, but I'm don't have much experience doing exactly that. I've only tested raw transfer speeds over wifi.
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[22:38] <shiftplusone> The wifi chipset alone can be the difference between 15mbit and 50mbit.
[22:38] <Eren97> could I use the rpi with XBMC as what I meant, and connect with smart tv to the media server, or how does it work?
[22:38] <Eren97> 150 Mbit/s http://www.amazon.de/EDIMAX-EW-7811UN-Wireless-Adapter-IEEE802-11b/dp/B003MTTJOY/ref=pd_bxgy_ce_text_y
[22:38] <shiftplusone> you won't get 150mbit with that dongle
[22:38] <shiftplusone> it tops out at about 45 on the pi
[22:38] <shiftplusone> which is good
[22:38] <shiftplusone> (enough)
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[22:40] <shiftplusone> By the way, the two amazon pi links you gave earlier show up as being from the same seller (ElevenFirst Ltd) and price (EUR 34,20).
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[22:41] <Eren97> oh
[22:41] <shiftplusone> Eren97, http://vimeo.com/106385205 this has a raspberry pi compute module on the inside.
[22:42] <Eren97> I want something small btw ;:D
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[22:43] <Eren97> doesnt open shiftplusone
[22:43] <shiftplusone> ah well
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[22:54] <shiftplusone> Hmm... filled the kettle a little below the minimum line (#yolo) and the tea is just fine =/
[22:54] <shiftplusone> (I didn't really think the tea would turn out wrong)
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: Is this a bent element kettle?
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: usually, you will find you can fill it only covering the horizontal portion of teh element. The rest is not actually heated
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> turn on the kettle and swirl a little water around in it.
[22:57] <SpeedEvil> you can easily see where it begins boiling
[22:57] <SpeedEvil> Mine will actually boil half a cup with no issue at all.
[22:57] <shiftplusone> yeah, it's one of those
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[23:02] <niston> hah.
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[23:05] <niston> make completed.
[23:05] <shiftplusone> what has been maked?
[23:05] <niston> mono 3.8.0 on windows
[23:05] <niston> now running make install
[23:06] <shiftplusone> oh
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[23:52] <niston> alright. got it to work :)
[23:54] <niston> sqlite access through mono.data.sqlite.dll on both raspi and win7
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[23:58] <shiftplusone> without needing to recompile the .exe?
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