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IRC Log for 2014-09-23

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[0:00] <NedScott> Motorola
[0:00] <NedScott> he just had a bad HDMI cable
[0:00] <NedScott> (he included the cables he used for his Pi)
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[0:09] <evil_dan2wik> It helps if I have ethernet connected when I try to ssh my Pi
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[0:26] <evil_dan2wik> 1.2GHz clock with 600MHz ram, I think I will stop here.
[0:26] <evil_dan2wik> especially since I am overvolting by 8
[0:26] <evil_dan2wik> and sram is overvolted by 2
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[0:40] <kij__> if you need more power why wouldn't you just buy something like an odroid u3 instead of voiding your warranty on the pi and trying to make it capable of something it was never intended of doing
[0:44] <evil_dan2wik> kij__, magic..
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[0:53] <evil_dan2wik> kij__, I am allowed to do what I want with the Pi
[0:56] <kij__> you're allowed to jump off a bridge too. it doesn't make it a good idea. there are products on the market designed to handle more power intense applications and barely more expensive
[0:58] <evil_dan2wik> kij__, no, this is fine.
[1:01] <Sonny_Jim> "Overclock and overvoltage will be disabled at runtime when the SoC reaches 85 °C to cool it down."
[1:01] <evil_dan2wik> and it hasn't passed 48C yet.
[1:02] <Sonny_Jim> Also
[1:02] <Sonny_Jim> "Since 19th of September 2012 you can overclock your Raspberry Pi without affecting your warranty[2]"
[1:02] <evil_dan2wik> oh neat
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[1:05] <kij__> yeah until you start messing with the voltage
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[1:06] <Sonny_Jim> tbh, by the time something will have failed due to increased heat stresses, it'll be out of warrenty anyway
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[1:08] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, at 46 degrees, the heat stresses are still minimal
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[1:09] <ShorTie> it's just getting warmed up at 46 degrees
[1:10] * ozzzy has a little single board computer with an Atom that cooks along at 80C all day
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[1:10] * ShorTie wonders if ozzzy takes egg orders
[1:11] <ozzzy> that's how it was engineered [shrug]
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[1:12] <evil_dan2wik> ShorTie, it is at full load at around 45-46 C
[1:13] <evil_dan2wik> My B used to get hotter to around 50C
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[1:14] <Sonny_Jim> I have a sneaky suspicion that overclocks past 1.2GHz are blocked by the SoC anyway
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[1:15] <evil_dan2wik> hmm
[1:15] <evil_dan2wik> well anyway, I am at 1.2GHz
[1:15] <Sonny_Jim> Have you run *any* benchmarks?
[1:15] <Sonny_Jim> Or are you just cat'ing something in /proc?
[1:17] <evil_dan2wik> I just set 1.2GHz in config and it was kernel panicing until I turned voltage up
[1:17] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim,
[1:17] <evil_dan2wik> sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
[1:17] <Sonny_Jim> Well, the engineer in me says "prove it"
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[1:19] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, how?
[1:20] <Sonny_Jim> Use a CPU testing program
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[1:22] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, like?
[1:23] <Sonny_Jim> Dunno, just trying to find one
[1:24] <Sonny_Jim> ah LINPACK
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[1:27] <Sonny_Jim> wget http://www.netlib.org/benchmark/linpackc.new
[1:27] <Sonny_Jim> mv linpackc.new linpack.c
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[1:27] <Sonny_Jim> gcc -O3 -o linpack linpack.c -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=vfp
[1:28] <Sonny_Jim> ./linpack
[1:28] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[1:28] <Sonny_Jim> If you run that program at different overclock settings, you should see the KFLOPS value change
[1:28] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[1:29] <Sonny_Jim> I'd be interested to see if there's any noticable difference in KFLOPS between 1GHz and 1.2GHz
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[1:30] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, I'll test on stock, 1GHz, .5GHz, no over volt,
[1:30] <Sonny_Jim> The other 'standard test' is to run ioquake3 and see what the FPS is like
[1:30] <evil_dan2wik> I don't have a display
[1:31] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, I'll also test with overvolt and see if there is any noticeable difference.
[1:31] <Sonny_Jim> Cool, now you are doing things properly and actually measuring stuff ;-0
[1:31] <Sonny_Jim> More info here:
[1:31] <Sonny_Jim> http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance
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[1:37] <Sonny_Jim> Also, you might find this command handy:
[1:38] <Sonny_Jim> vcgencmd get_config int
[1:38] <evil_dan2wik> why?
[1:38] <Sonny_Jim> Easy way to list the config options you've set
[1:38] <Sonny_Jim> For when you are copying and pasting your linpack results ;-)
[1:39] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[1:39] <Sonny_Jim> No point taking readings if you aren't writing them down
[1:39] <evil_dan2wik> well, I think I set bad settings in my Pi
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[1:39] <evil_dan2wik> I tried setting the clock speed and voltage down but now it hasn't come back up
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[1:44] <ShorTie> how's that old saying go, pop goes the weasel
[1:45] <evil_dan2wik> freezer time again
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[1:46] <Sonny_Jim> Erm
[1:46] <Sonny_Jim> Why are you putting it in the freezer?
[1:46] <Sonny_Jim> Also, a PWM fan and RTC for £12, snazzy:
[1:47] <Sonny_Jim> https://www.modmypi.com/picoolfan
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[1:48] <ShorTie> to get that heat condensation between the pins for better electric conductivaty
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[1:50] <Sonny_Jim> Bah this sentance winds me up:
[1:51] <Sonny_Jim> "Flashes continuously Green if power is within threshold
[1:51] <Sonny_Jim> How can it flash continuously?
[1:52] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, same reason why liquid nitrogen works.
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[1:53] <theaftermath> Hi, does anyone know if the raspberry pi supports eap-peap authentatication in a 802.1x network
[1:54] <evil_dan2wik> probably does.
[1:54] <theaftermath> haha thanks, do you know if it would depend on the usb wifi dongle used?
[1:55] <evil_dan2wik> probably.
[1:56] <theaftermath> thanks
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[2:07] <shadowfios> hello?
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[2:08] <HumanCell> Any ideas on how long repository.wolfram.com is going to be down this time?
[2:09] <shadowfios> how do you use the gpio pins with C/C++?
[2:09] <HumanCell> Seems like they can't seem to keep their servers up and working ...
[2:09] <HumanCell> C++? Google says: http://hertaville.com/2012/11/18/introduction-to-accessing-the-raspberry-pis-gpio-in-c/
[2:11] <HumanCell> Or more here: http://visualgdb.com/tutorials/raspberry/LED/
[2:11] <evil_dan2wik> how slow can the Pi go>
[2:11] <evil_dan2wik> ?
[2:11] <Sonny_Jim> shadowfios: I use the lovely wiringPi
[2:12] <Sonny_Jim> Try it, it's good :-)
[2:12] <Sonny_Jim> http://wiringpi.com/
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[2:22] <shadowfios> wow, huh the gpio pins are all mirrored in the filesystem.
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[2:22] <shadowfios> is that true for all linux enabled devices with gpio?
[2:23] <Sonny_Jim> depends on the driver
[2:24] <Sonny_Jim> But doing it through /proc is slow(ish)
[2:24] <Sonny_Jim> What do you plan to use the GPIO for?
[2:25] <shadowfios> to control many ascpects of a 120lb robot for FRC
[2:25] <Sonny_Jim> FRC?
[2:25] <shadowfios> First Robotics Competition
[2:25] <Sonny_Jim> So any idea how many pins/bandwidth you'll need?
[2:26] <bnmorgan> still can't figure out how to get vnc to boot as pi instaed of root
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[2:26] <Sonny_Jim> bnmorgan: I just use x11vnc, much easier
[2:26] <Sonny_Jim> It connects to an existing x11 server rather than creating a new one
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[2:26] <Sonny_Jim> Or are you talking about starting vnc on boot?
[2:27] <shadowfios> well this year the founders have made a new control system for teams to use, it uses full linux and has gpio pins
[2:27] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, I get 68000-70000 with 1.2GHz with .6GHz ram, and 58000-60000 with 1GHz and .5GHz ram
[2:27] <shadowfios> in previous years we used a VxWorks Image
[2:27] <bnmorgan> Sonny_Jim yeah, i'm doing http://elinux.org/RPi_VNC_Server#Run_at_boot
[2:27] <bnmorgan> and need it as user pi instead
[2:28] <Sonny_Jim> what a terrible guide
[2:28] <Sonny_Jim> Should never really run vnc as root
[2:28] <shadowfios> not a raspberry pi, but I couldnt think of another control system to develop on.
[2:29] <shadowfios> but hey if you are interested in the new control system we are going to be using:
[2:29] <shadowfios> https://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-30419
[2:30] <bnmorgan> i did just login pi user but get the following error
[2:30] <bnmorgan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zevskh4tj96g6x/Screenshot%202014-09-22%2019.29.30.png?dl=0
[2:31] <bnmorgan> thinking i need it actually running as pi from bottom up
[2:31] <Sonny_Jim> tempted to just write you an init script
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[2:31] <Sonny_Jim> as that one is pure bobbins
[2:32] <Sonny_Jim> Err, did you read this part bnmorgan:
[2:32] <Sonny_Jim> http://elinux.org/RPi_VNC_Server#Getting_VNC_Server_to_Work_on_a_Specific_User
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[2:32] <bnmorgan> i didn't
[2:34] <Sonny_Jim> I die a little inside each time someone posts a PNG of a terminal window when they could of just copied and pasted the text to pastebin
[2:35] <Sonny_Jim> I blame Apples terrible cut and paste support on their iPhones making people think that screenshots are an acceptable use of bandwidth ;-)
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[2:36] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, 43000-45000 with 0.7GHz and 0.6GHz ram
[2:37] <Sonny_Jim> evil_dan2wik: Ok, so it does seem to make a bit of difference
[2:37] <evil_dan2wik> so, 45000 KFlops on 700MHz vs 70000 KFlops on 1.2GHz
[2:38] <Sonny_Jim> Now try 2GHz ;-)
[2:38] <evil_dan2wik> Got any liquid nitrogen?
[2:39] <Sonny_Jim> Can of aeroduster will do
[2:40] <bnmorgan> will know in a second if it'll work.
[2:40] <evil_dan2wik> I don't have any of that.
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[2:41] <bnmorgan> i use a piece of silicon thermal pad, a .45acp casing, and some methyl alcohol
[2:41] <evil_dan2wik> I don't have any of that either
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[2:49] <clever> Sonny_Jim: what about out of focus pics of monitors? lol
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[2:55] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, increase of about 5000 KFlops from increasing the core_freq from 250 to 450
[2:57] <bnmorgan> ok it works fine if i manually run it from ssh logged in as pi
[2:57] <bnmorgan> so how do i just automatically do ./svnc.sh sometime after boot
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[2:58] <Sonny_Jim> traditionally you would use cron
[2:59] <Sonny_Jim> Do you mean daily?
[2:59] <Sonny_Jim> Or just on each boot?
[2:59] <bnmorgan> i don't even have habits...much less traditions
[2:59] <bnmorgan> each boot
[2:59] <Sonny_Jim> oh
[2:59] <Sonny_Jim> Make an /etc/init.d/ script
[2:59] <evil_dan2wik> My Pi is getting a little toasty
[3:00] <Sonny_Jim> add it with update-rc.d
[3:00] <evil_dan2wik> it has actually reached 52C
[3:01] <bnmorgan> grr. now i can't get bluetooth manager running.
[3:01] <bnmorgan> evil_dan2wik how are ou monitoring temp?
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[3:03] <evil_dan2wik> bnmorgan, http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/9105/raspberry-pi-onboard-temp-sensors-in-raspbianwheezy
[3:03] <evil_dan2wik> there is a script in the answer
[3:03] <Sonny_Jim> or you could just cat something in proc
[3:04] <Sonny_Jim> vcgencmd measure_temp
[3:04] <Sonny_Jim> Or do that ^
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[3:05] <bnmorgan> 43.3 cool
[3:06] <bnmorgan> any idea what would be preventing the bluetooth thing from running now that i'm in as pi
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[3:08] <Sonny_Jim> Could you describe what 'bluetooth thing' is?
[3:08] <bnmorgan> BlueZ maybe?
[3:09] <bnmorgan> in menu, preferences, listed as "bluetooth manager"
[3:09] <bnmorgan> i click, it does nothing
[3:09] <bnmorgan> logged in as root and it ran and was able to pair and trust and all that fancy shtuff.
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[3:42] <evil_dan2wik> it appears that my Pi is working fine at it's current clock settings when it is below 50C, I just had a kernel picnic when I loaded it up at 52C
[3:43] <yjack> mmmmmm... kernel picnic....
[3:43] <evil_dan2wik> panic*
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[3:52] <ozzzy> what do you eat at a kernel picnic
[3:53] <ozzzy> corn?
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[3:53] <yjack> i'm thinking you eat pie
[3:53] <yjack> raspberry pie
[3:53] <yjack> *badump TSSH*
[3:54] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[3:54] <Sonny_Jim> I wonder if the Pi GPIO can stretch to 2MHz
[3:54] <ozzzy> hehe
[3:54] <toresbe> yes, comfortably
[3:55] <Sonny_Jim> Well
[3:55] <Sonny_Jim> Depending on how you do it
[3:55] <toresbe> I think it maxes out somewhere above 27MHz in a tight loop
[3:55] <toresbe> iirc
[3:55] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah have you actually tried doing anything useful with GPIO at those speeds though
[3:56] <toresbe> nope
[3:57] <evil_dan2wik> toresbe, It is possible to get much much higher.
[3:57] <toresbe> I wanted to try and see if I could do a SIP<->T1 converter
[3:57] <toresbe> Never mind actually doing it; I just wanted to see if it was possible.
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[4:01] <evil_dan2wik> toresbe, seems like the maximum possible speed is 120 using asm
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[4:04] <toresbe> evil_dan2wik: but add in the code needed to actually get anything useful out and things get complicateder
[4:04] * Sonny_Jim nods
[4:08] <evil_dan2wik> toresbe, about 30MHz for anything even slightly useful
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[4:18] <Sonny_Jim> Well, I've done a bit of GPIO work (interfaced with a SNES controller port) with C and even 2MHz is making me nervous
[4:19] <Sonny_Jim> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da7j4CaIf8g
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[4:20] <toresbe> Sonny_Jim: it depends on how well you control the environment
[4:20] <toresbe> also, wow.
[4:21] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, asm
[4:21] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah, because that would be trivial?
[4:21] <toresbe> the difference between C and asm is negligible
[4:22] <Sonny_Jim> tbh if you need fast GPIO, the best method is to offload the processing to an mcu
[4:22] <Sonny_Jim> and interface the Pi to that
[4:22] <niston> if I have a library that has hard fp support, it will not work on a softfloat install. Is this correct?
[4:22] <toresbe> Sonny_Jim: probably the easiest way to do it yes
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[4:56] <zoidberg-> Sonny_Jim: btw it worked - all fixed from the earlier problem :)
[4:56] <zoidberg-> Sonny_Jim: fixing udev sorted it out, it did reorder it when i killed it though, so a bit of reconfig and all working nicely.
[4:56] <zoidberg-> thank you for your help earlier
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[4:59] <Sonny_Jim> no worries, glad to hear you got it working
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[5:07] <ZER0C001> Hey all new here, just considering getting a pi and wondering if the Canakits are any good
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[6:13] <s3gfault> Hello, I'm trying to use the omxplayer-dbus to play, pause and seek - but when I use the dbuscontrol.sh script from the github page I get no such file for '/tmp/omxplayerdbus'
[6:14] <s3gfault> any insights on how to populate the bus address or dbus session for omxplayer ?
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[6:35] <cyberpolice> i need some help with error mounting local filesystem
[6:37] <cyberpolice> how to fix this error on boot: FAT-fs mmcblk0p1 Volume was not properly unmounted. some data may be corrupt. please run fsck
[6:38] <s3gfault> cyberpolice, you could run a filesystem check as recommended in the message, like so:
[6:38] <s3gfault> cyberpolice, fsck -y /dev/mmcblk0p1
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[6:40] <cyberpolice> and then i have s3gfault can i run this command now?
[6:40] <cyberpolice> as in, while booted from pi
[6:41] <s3gfault> you can force the check on reboot using this command:
[6:41] <s3gfault> shutdown -rF now
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[6:43] <cyberpolice> trying that command now
[6:43] <evil_dan2wik> s3gfault, does reboot -rF work?
[6:44] <cyberpolice> it says
[6:44] <cyberpolice> fsck died with status 1
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[6:44] <cyberpolice> at the end there
[6:46] <cyberpolice> checking file system...fsck from util-linux. /lost+found not found. CREATED. /dev/mmcblk0p2: 44/957712 files (6.8% noncontiguous), 3036851/3874176 blocks. dosfsck 3.0.13, 30 jun 2012, fat32, lfn. /dev/mmcblk0p1: 15 files, 2384/7161 clusters. fsck died with exit status 1. done.
[6:46] <s3gfault> evil_dan2wik, there is no -F flag for reboot as per the man page
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[6:47] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[6:48] <cyberpolice> mounting local filesystems... [57.354373] FAT-fs (mmcblk0p1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck. [57.396226] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2): mounted file system with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[6:48] <cyberpolice> is this normal
[6:49] <s3gfault> cyberpolice, what's the output of # less /var/log/fsck/checkfs
[6:49] <s3gfault> use a pastie if it's long
[6:49] <evil_dan2wik> If it helps, I have that message and it seems harmless
[6:49] <evil_dan2wik> and it won't go away
[6:50] <s3gfault> you could also mount the sd card on another linux system and run fsck on it
[6:51] <cyberpolice> s3gfault: http://rpi.pwnz.org/public/paste/1411447871_stdout.txt
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[6:54] <cyberpolice> s3gfault: ill try that i guess. remove the sdcard and fsck it on another linux
[6:55] <cyberpolice> thanks
[6:55] <s3gfault> cyberpolice, u welcome
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[6:59] <s3gfault> anyone used omxplayer dbus before?
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[7:13] <ZER0C001> evening all
[7:13] <ZER0C001> just attempting to figure out my first Pi purchase
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[7:16] <torchic__> ZER0C001: :3
[7:16] <ZER0C001> It looks to be a fun platform, I was looking at the B+
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[7:17] <ZER0C001> im torn between the B and the B+
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[7:21] <nashi> heheheeee my cheapduinos (ten of them) and radio modules (ten of them) and ethernet module arrived today. really close to having all the parts I need to start designing my own personal home automation system.
[7:21] <ZER0C001> nice
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[7:21] <nashi> really wish I could find an A or B cheap, but ive got bigger concerns for the next two months.
[7:21] <ZER0C001> my plan was originally to do a simple PPP over serial box for my vintage computers, then i realized what other cool stuff can be done, now im just torn between a B or a B+
[7:22] <nashi> if youre torn get the b+ its just better
[7:22] <AlmtyBob> get both!
[7:22] <ZER0C001> cant afford both lol
[7:22] <ZER0C001> seems there is more available for the B right now
[7:23] <nashi> extra i/o and the more efficient smps onboard really make the b+ the better of the two. this isnt even counting the extra two usb spots
[7:23] <kij__> there are definitely more cases for the B, but i don't really see why you'd choose the B over the B+
[7:24] <nashi> the only reason id choose a b over the b+ is if i was going to bypass the onboard vregulator and was NEVER going to use the extra ports or IO
[7:24] <ZER0C001> right, I was looking at a kit that had projects only for the B, but amazon has the CanaKit Ultimate starter kit with wifi dongle case, power supply and all for 77 bucks free shipping
[7:24] <nashi> and if the b was cheaper
[7:25] <nashi> projects for the B work with the B+
[7:25] <ZER0C001> ah cool B+ it is then
[7:25] <nashi> even the ribbon cables and pinouts are compatible.
[7:25] <kij__> i got my B+ with case, micro sd, power supply, wifi for like $74
[7:25] <nashi> one little warning about that
[7:25] <kij__> you don't really need a 'kit'
[7:25] <ZER0C001> i was looking at this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G1PNG54/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A30ZYR2W3VAJ0A
[7:26] <nashi> the little ribbon cable plug, the IDC, will interfere with the extra pins on the B+ but getting an adapter "acble" with just a bigger IDC on it is cheap.
[7:26] <nashi> cable*
[7:26] <kij__> yeah that wifi dongle with that kit isn't going to work good
[7:26] <kij__> it doesn't even have an antenna
[7:26] <ZER0C001> I dont even care about wifi
[7:26] <ZER0C001> I hardwire everything here
[7:26] <ZER0C001> well except the phones and the tablets
[7:26] <kij__> well that wifi is gonna be at least $10 of that kit
[7:26] <nashi> I would personally never, ever get a kit for a pi, Id rather piecemeal my own
[7:27] <kij__> a b+ case and PS is like, $60
[7:27] <AlmtyBob> I use a cheap wifi dongle without an antenna and it gets a stronger signal than my phone
[7:27] <ZER0C001> yeah im kind of new to it so i just wanted soemthing my son and I could do projects with and follow instructions
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[7:28] <nashi> I use a wifi n 300mbps adapter which cost me $10 shipped on sale from newegg and its been the best wifi 'card' ive ever had. so ive bought like three more over the year ive had the first
[7:28] <ZER0C001> nice
[7:28] <ZER0C001> i have gigabit everywhere here
[7:28] <nashi> I use gigabit too and intel nics
[7:28] <ZER0C001> im primarily a mac and linux user and I collect vintage computers
[7:28] <nashi> but sometimes you want a bit of wifi. not often.
[7:29] <nashi> oooooh I do too about computers. ive got a 386dx40 thats all scsi and all jumper non pnp
[7:29] <ZER0C001> nice, I got this sitting on my desk next to me https://www.flickr.com/photos/67970316@N08/15304632196/
[7:29] <nashi> and im putting together a DEC 486 66 to run freebsd 10 on if I can ever get the thing installed
[7:29] <ZER0C001> nice, Ive got a VT420 in the closet
[7:29] <nashi> if you wanna talk about non raspi hardware, you should go to ##hardware
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[7:30] <ZER0C001> so i should order the base raspberrypi then
[7:30] <ZER0C001> the base B+ with case and power supply
[7:30] <nashi> just get the b+, then find a decent 2a or 3a or more 5v wall wart
[7:30] <AlmtyBob> heh, a CD-R spindle, haven't seen one of those in a while
[7:31] <ZER0C001> i think ive got a few of those around
[7:31] <kij__> make sure you get microsd and not sd
[7:32] <ZER0C001> ive got a few laying here
[7:32] <kij__> i almost made that mistake, not realizing they had switched over to micro on the b+
[7:32] <ZER0C001> heres another kit I was looking at http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Adapter/dp/B00LVAFC7Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1411450330&sr=1-2&keywords=Raspberry+Pi+Model+B%2B
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[7:33] <kij__> for $62.95 i'd get it
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[7:33] <nashi> kij__, I bought an A and then desoldered the full sd slot and remotely (with a bit of floppy cable) wired in the adafruit microsd card adapter youre sposed to slide into the normal sd slot
[7:34] <ZER0C001> the other kit was 77 and came with the extra goodies, LED breadboard and stuff
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[7:35] <kij__> its kind of hard to pass up with everything it comes with.. cases are like $8, ps $10.. youre already at $58 with that and that kit has the HDMI, wifi dongle and microsd as well
[7:35] <ZER0C001> yeah im gonna order it
[7:35] <ZER0C001> right now
[7:35] <ZER0C001> or they had this one for 77 bucks http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G1PNG54/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A30ZYR2W3VAJ0A
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[7:36] <kij__> i wouldn't end up using any of that other shit
[7:36] <ZER0C001> ah alright, i just wanted somethign the kiddo and I could work with, hes 9 and learning about electronics
[7:37] <kij__> if you think you would get that, i'm just saying i wouldnt
[7:37] <ZER0C001> yeah im new to it lol, eventual goal is to build a PPP over serial box with an LCD that shows me PPP status and transfer rate and whatnot
[7:37] <AlmtyBob> ZER0C001: already play with the Arduino too? It's pretty fun and simple for electronics projects
[7:37] <ZER0C001> nope i havent gotten into arduino yet
[7:38] <ZER0C001> i got burnt out on vintage computers so I needed something to make my brain think a bit instead of seeing Amiga Screens and whatnot
[7:38] <AlmtyBob> if you want to play with electronics, particularly with a kid, you should definitely check out the arduino soon
[7:38] <ZER0C001> ill have to do that
[7:39] <AlmtyBob> it's built around reading info from sensors/buttons/etc and acting on those inputs via LEDs, motors, etc
[7:39] <ZER0C001> oh nice
[7:39] <AlmtyBob> it's also INSANELY well documented (as is the Pi)
[7:39] <ZER0C001> thats even better
[7:40] <AlmtyBob> if you're looking for electronics projects with your kid, or even for yourself, the arduino is 100% the way to go
[7:40] <nashi> if you look you can find mini cheap arduino clones for $3 online
[7:40] <ZER0C001> ive seen those
[7:40] <nashi> I bought 10 of those plus wifi modules for them, to make home automation modules out of
[7:40] <ZER0C001> nice, see I wanted to build a plip box out of one of those, but I cant solder worth a darn
[7:40] <nashi> modules. you dont have to.
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[7:41] <ZER0C001> right but to connect a parallel interface you do
[7:41] <nashi> I can but its just, jumper wires and pins
[7:41] <ZER0C001> stupid amiga and its weird parallel port
[7:41] <nashi> ahhhhhh
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[7:41] <nashi> im pretty good with soldering non smd stuff.
[7:42] <ZER0C001> ive been running PPP over serial on the mac, but I wanted to build a dedicated box that would show link speed, local IP address, remote IP address and data transfer rate, wanted to do this out of a pi
[7:42] <AlmtyBob> what's the D in smd?
[7:43] <AlmtyBob> oh device I'm guessing
[7:43] <ZER0C001> well fuggit im gonna buy the RPi B+ kit
[7:43] <ZER0C001> and start messing around with it
[7:45] <nashi> AlmtyBob, device.
[7:46] <ZER0C001> now can you use stuff like this on the B+ http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Sunfounder-Lab-w-Project-Book-Super-Starter-Kit-for-Raspberry-Pi-/151412775277?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2340e7996d
[7:46] <AlmtyBob> I'm lucky enough to have a big electronics nerd at work so I never need to learn all of that
[7:46] <AlmtyBob> he just says he installed some shift registers and voltage regulators and I just smile and nod as if I have a clue what he's talking about
[7:46] <ZER0C001> I wish i could understand that
[7:46] <ZER0C001> lol
[7:47] <ZER0C001> I was going to design an apple II card one summer and then realized zomg im an idiot
[7:47] <ZER0C001> when it comes to electronics
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[7:47] <AlmtyBob> ah my computer, Apple IIc
[7:47] <AlmtyBob> *first computer
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[7:47] <ZER0C001> I still have one here
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[7:49] <ZER0C001> ooh heres a cheap B http://www.ebay.com/itm/CanaKit-Rasberry-Pi-Model-B-Complete-Starter-Kit-with-8GB-SD-Card-and-Case-F8-/171464634562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ec16b0c2
[7:50] <AlmtyBob> very first coding I ever did was changing a line in the Basic file that loaded an old SSI gold box game to display my name when it loaded the game
[7:50] <ZER0C001> nice
[7:51] <ZER0C001> hmm that pi for 29.99 seems like a good deal
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[7:53] <ZER0C001> thanks for all the help btw on selecting a pi
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[7:54] <CoJaBo> ZER0C001: Amazon has them cheaper
[7:54] <ZER0C001> yeah i saw that
[7:54] <CoJaBo> ZER0C001: Also, current model
[7:54] <ZER0C001> i was looking at this kit http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G1PNG54/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A30ZYR2W3VAJ0A
[7:54] <CoJaBo> $40 shipped.
[7:54] <ZER0C001> thats not bad, but im kind of new to it so i thought about getting a kit
[7:55] <CoJaBo> ..that's a weird wifi dongle tho
[7:55] <ZER0C001> yeah I wont use wifi
[7:55] <ZER0C001> hardwired ethernet here
[7:55] <CoJaBo> if that's the case, a kit would waste a lot :P
[7:55] <ZER0C001> right
[7:56] <ZER0C001> but it comes with an SD card, HDMI cable, wallwart
[7:56] <CoJaBo> Which are like, $5 items
[7:56] <ZER0C001> yeah
[7:56] <CoJaBo> The heatsinks are useless
[7:57] <ZER0C001> i liked the electronics aspect of the kit, coming with the breadboard and stuff like that
[7:57] <CoJaBo> The only thing you don't seem to be able to get is the breakout board; I can't find that anywhere outside of a kit, dunno why :/
[7:58] <ZER0C001> then I was looking at this kit to go with it http://www.amazon.com/SunFounder-Extension-Breadboard-Resistors-Raspberry/dp/B00IEYI9WA/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1411451909&sr=1-6&keywords=Sunfounder+Raspberry+Pi
[7:58] <CoJaBo> It still may be cheaper to get the parts seperate; SD, HDMI, power, and a breadboard kit probably won't run $50
[7:59] <ZER0C001> yeah
[7:59] <ZER0C001> they also got a basic kit for 62.95 that includes just the board, HDMI, SD, Power and Wifi and a case
[7:59] <CoJaBo> If you're interfacing with stuff, one of the GPIO addons that does level-conversion would be a nice thing to have..
[8:01] <ZER0C001> it all looks so fun to play with
[8:01] <CoJaBo> The problem with the kits is they add loads of worthless junk; there doesn't seem to be any reason you'd ever need a heatsink, and the kit cases usually don't have access to the GPIO for some reason
[8:02] <ZER0C001> yeah
[8:02] <CoJaBo> If you do get wifi, you probably want the Edimax one
[8:02] <ZER0C001> im trying to do this for under 100 bucks lol
[8:02] <ZER0C001> which seems hard to do
[8:03] <CoJaBo> I got just the bare board and some wires; think it was like $50 total
[8:03] <ZER0C001> not bad
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[8:07] <ZER0C001> im gonna grab this one its cheap http://www.ebay.com/itm/CanaKit-Rasberry-Pi-Model-B-Complete-Starter-Kit-with-8GB-SD-Card-and-Case-F8-/171464634562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ec16b0c2
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[8:08] <ZER0C001> its cheap like 38 bucks cheap
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[8:10] <CoJaBo> ..dafuq?
[8:10] <CoJaBo> I already had everything else; plenty of spare power adaptors, at least one SD, etc.
[8:10] <ZER0C001> fun fun
[8:11] <ZER0C001> i got too much crap lol
[8:11] <ZER0C001> theres 3 sun sparcstations under my desk in pieces
[8:11] <CoJaBo> no idea wtf is wrong with internet :/
[8:11] <ZER0C001> well i found a plain model B for 38 bucks shipped with SD, Power adapter and HDMI http://www.ebay.com/itm/CanaKit-Rasberry-Pi-Model-B-Complete-Starter-Kit-with-8GB-SD-Card-and-Case-F8-/171464634562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ec16b0c2
[8:12] <ZER0C001> then ill grab this starter kit for it to get the boy started :) http://r.ebay.com/3d7irB
[8:12] <CoJaBo> ZER0C001: Power adaptor looks kinda sketchy
[8:13] <ZER0C001> ah alright
[8:13] <CoJaBo> The real ones usually don't have an integrated cord
[8:14] <ZER0C001> yeah
[8:14] <ZER0C001> the canakit ones on amazon have an integrated cord too
[8:15] <CoJaBo> ..that's weird
[8:15] <ZER0C001> it looks like a fun platform to play on thats for sure
[8:16] <CoJaBo> I guess they make their own hardware or something?
[8:16] <ZER0C001> they must
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[8:17] <ZER0C001> well ill grab one later on i guess
[8:17] <ZER0C001> because knowing me ill buy it and shove it in a desk and forget about it
[8:17] <CoJaBo> The one in that ebay kit isn't the canakit one
[8:17] <ZER0C001> ah alright
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[8:19] <CoJaBo> ZER0C001: ..it actually looks like the "Wiorless Assesorys" brand, the quality of which roughly parallels their spelling
[8:19] <ZER0C001> oh boy
[8:19] <CoJaBo> I have 2 of those, both came from phones bought on ebay. lol
[8:19] <ZER0C001> crappy stuff on fleabay
[8:19] <ZER0C001> if this kit would work with the B+ id grab it http://r.ebay.com/3d7irB
[8:20] <CoJaBo> The rated tolerence is 4.5-7.5v; if you plug one of them into a pi, it'll cook it pretty fast xD
[8:20] <evil_dan2wik> only thing that won't work with it would be the GPIO break out
[8:20] <ZER0C001> oh that sucks
[8:20] <CoJaBo> Without load, it floats around 20v
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[8:21] <ZER0C001> thanks for all the help
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[8:23] <ZER0C001> its complicated figuring out what to get
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[8:26] <CoJaBo> I was half-expecting most of the stuff I got from Amazon to be unusable
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[8:26] <ZER0C001> yeah
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[8:29] <CoJaBo> I actually only got one dud, the rest was fine =D
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[8:55] <evil_dan2wik> I have had 6 counterfeit items from ebay, 2 dead on arrival and 7 never even came.
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[9:32] <Xark> evil_dan2wik: So, you've been pretty lucky? :)
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[9:35] <evil_dan2wik> Xark, not really
[9:36] <evil_dan2wik> I bought around 25 items from Ebay, 15 of them had problems.
[9:36] <Xark> evil_dan2wik: I was being a bit sarcastic. I have found I would rather pay more and avoid ebay, personally.
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[9:37] <evil_dan2wik> Well, you can use the Ebay system to your advantage, Counterfeit items must be refunded, with or without a return.
[9:37] <evil_dan2wik> and same with items that are DOA
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[10:15] <HJE841> Hi, I have a model B and I want to connect it to a relay board from ebay and I've found this video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaf_zQcrg7g Is it safe to connect it directly as he does?
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[10:40] <HJE841> oh well, this video gives a really great explanation : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ZagKRnRdM
[10:41] <zylinx> HJE841: it depends on the relay board
[10:42] <zylinx> if it is compatible with 3v3
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[10:44] <HJE841> zylinx, thanks. initially I was considering putting my Gertboard inbetween,but that does not seem to necessary
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[11:42] <cp1024> hey all, just got my new B+! i would appreciate if anyone can help with maybe just a few things to look into, what distro, for this purpose: web server, print server, and i want some way to be able to look to a remote server to print jobs, these files will be XML
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[11:42] <cp1024> if anyone can suggest things to check out, that would be great :)
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[11:43] <ShorTie> i recommend raspbian for a os
[11:43] <cp1024> ty ShorTie
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[11:45] <cp1024> anyone know a good way of retrieving and printing Xml
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[11:51] <ch007m_2> Hi. I'm experimenting some issues when trying on raspberry - debian to setup wlan0, eth0 interfaces with static IP address. That works very when only the ethernet cable is plugged or using the USB wifi dongle but not when both are used. Is there a workaround ? Here is my interfaces config file - https://gist.github.com/cmoulliard/1f87b6121b23eb9bb045 ?
[11:51] <HJE841> cp1024, that depends on your preferred programming language
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[11:54] <ShorTie> ch007m_2, you might want to try wicd, i ind it alot easier then messing in interfaces
[11:55] <ch007m_2> ShorTie: Will have a look. Thx
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[12:23] <ch007m_2> Do we have infra issues as I can't connect to this machine to update raspberry (Could not connect to repository.wolfram.com:80) ?
[12:23] <cp1024> HJE841, probably something like php
[12:23] <cp1024> :D
[12:26] <HJE841> cp1024, you could try the asking at #php or something :)
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[12:34] <cp1024> ty
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[13:08] <evil_dan2wik> ch007m_2, there is a problem with the wolfram mirror right now.
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[13:18] <evil_dan2wik> ch007m_2, I ended up fixing the problem by deleting it from my sources
[13:18] <ch007m_2> cool
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[14:29] <ch007m_2> Is there a way to unmount this partition /dev/mmcblk0p2 (ext4) mounted for / as I would like to resize it ?
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[14:31] <shiftplusone> shrink or grow?
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[14:34] <ch007m_2> grow
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[14:45] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone,
[14:46] <evil_dan2wik> oh, nvm
[14:49] <shiftplusone> ch007m_2, then you don't need to umount it
[14:53] <ch007m_2> nvm = ?
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[14:54] <skyroveRR> "Never mind".
[14:55] <shiftplusone> I thought it was never veil monkeys
[14:55] <skyroveRR> Heh.
[14:55] <ch007m_2> Followed instructions defined here : http://elinux.org/RPi_Resize_Flash_Partitions
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[15:46] <ch007m_2> Is it relevant to use VLC to watch a video or we should use omxplayer or ... ?
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[15:46] <evil_dan2wik> ch007m_2, whichever you prefer.
[15:47] <shiftplusone> I don't think the correct version of vlc is in wheezy
[15:47] <shiftplusone> you'd need to compile it yourself with omx support for the pi
[15:48] <ch007m_2> Do we have to install specific codecs ? My test with VLC was not successful (no sound, ...) ?
[15:48] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, sudo apt-get install vlc
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[15:48] <evil_dan2wik> ch007m_2, I had a little trouble with sound, I forget how I fixed it though.
[15:48] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, that won't do HW decoding
[15:48] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, worked fine last time I used it.
[15:49] <shiftplusone> it could work fine and still eat up 100% of the cpu
[15:49] <evil_dan2wik> I was able to view 1080p video
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[15:50] <shiftplusone> Then maybe Julien or plugwash got the correct version in the repo =)
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[15:51] <ch007m_2> evil_dan2wik: Whoww. When I try to read a avi file from a USB key, then VLC (installed using apt-get install vlc) can open the file but after that no movement at all
[15:53] <ch007m_2> shiftplusone: This is what you propose to do : http://www.oblivion-software.de/index.php?id=56&type=98
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[15:53] <shiftplusone> I propose just using omxplayer
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[15:54] <shiftplusone> and this tutorial looks better if you're going to compile vlc http://intensecode.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/tutorial-vlc-with-hardware-acceleration.html
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[16:08] <evil_dan2wik> What does this mean? [ 1835.728954] bcm2708_fb_blank(1) returns=1 p[1]=0x80000000
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[16:08] <evil_dan2wik> from dmesg
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[16:48] <ch007m_2> Is it correct that sound is not available if we use a remote desktop (vnc, rdp) but only when vlc, omxplayer sends output to HDMI ?
[16:53] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, I just ignore it.
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[16:56] <Sonny_Jim> ch007m_2: AFAIK, vnc/rdp don't do audio
[16:57] <ch007m_2> So there is no way excepted to send output to HDMI (television screen) ?
[16:57] <shiftplusone> not with omxplayer
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[16:58] <shiftplusone> with vlc there's a number of ways to stream audio, including pulseaudio
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[17:59] <leio> shiftplusone, ch007m_2: wouldn't it work if pulseaudio runs and the alsa plugin is available, which sends pure alsa programs sound to pulseaudio?
[18:00] <shiftplusone> leio, you mean omxplayer?
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[18:00] <leio> yes, if it outputs to ALSA, not muck around in some special way
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[18:02] <shiftplusone> that's the if
[18:02] <shiftplusone> I don't think it does use alsa
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[18:14] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't mind one of those
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[18:58] <Eren97> yay just got my 1st rpi
[18:59] <Eren97> and I already broke parts of the case I bought with it (Y)
[19:00] <Eren97> now my question...is there any way to get access to the rpi with ssh without any display/mouse/keyboard connected to it ?
[19:00] <Eren97> like..is SSH already set up?
[19:00] <Encrypt> Eren97, Yes
[19:01] <Encrypt> It works this way on Raspbian
[19:01] <Eren97> what about name and pass?
[19:01] <shiftplusone> pi:raspberry
[19:01] <Eren97> mhhhh
[19:01] <Eren97> I hope my firewall is configured correlty.. damn fritz
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[19:09] <SopaXorzTaker> Holy GPIO!
[19:09] <SopaXorzTaker> Honor BCM2835!
[19:09] <SopaXorzTaker> lol
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[19:10] <shiftplusone> eh? O_o
[19:10] <SopaXorzTaker> shorter, hi
[19:12] <SopaXorzTaker> i like gpio
[19:12] <SopaXorzTaker> such craze many amazy very came from doge community
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[20:24] <mbrgm> hi! I want to turn my raspberry pi into an airplay-receiver (and only that) with the best performance (= lowest delay) possible. what would be the best options? raspbian, openelec, some tiny linux distro?
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[20:27] <winlu> does not matter
[20:28] <Bilby> mbrgm are you planning on running a GUI or display at all? It doesn't matter what distro you use but if you use one that has xwin installed you want to set it not to run
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[20:31] <mbrgm> Bilby: no gui, just being able to ssh into the pi for configuration. the reason I'm asking: I want to stream audio from my htpc to my stereo, but at the other end of the room. I didn't plan on setting up audio cables, so I wanted to use streamed audio (with the lowest possible latency for obvious reasons)
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[20:32] <Bilby> it will depend on your tolerence for lag on how much it bothers you, but it doesn't take much to be obviously out of sync for live action video
[20:32] <pksato> latency depend of server configuration and client buffer.
[20:33] <flexus> you can try out newer pavucontrol, it has latency offset built in
[20:33] <flexus> *if* you use pulse
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[20:34] <pksato> or is about decoder to speaker latence?
[20:34] <Bilby> a lot is going to depend on the server, yes
[20:35] <Bilby> also why is your HTPC and your stereo too far apart to just run a cable? what do you do for other sources?
[20:36] <Bilby> "lip sync errors start to become noticeable if the audio leads the video by 25 ms to 35 ms, or if the audio lags the video by 80 ms to 90 ms.
[20:36] <Bilby> " - http://www.pixelinstruments.tv/articles.htm
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[20:41] <mbrgm> ok, thx for the info. I'll investigate on the different options and see what solution will fit my needs best.
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[20:45] <Bilby> I find often the easiest way to move audio like that is using the SPDIF output on a sound card to a coax cable, then to the coaxial-audio input on a home theatre amp
[20:45] <Bilby> uses cheap cable, no degredation or interference
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[21:14] <steve_rox> wish they have rpi b+ testpoints
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[21:15] <ShorTie> they replaced them with a blinky light, easier to see and read for most peeps
[21:16] <steve_rox> yeah i still wanna read the numbers tho :-P
[21:16] <steve_rox> i have a dc-dc board that may need tweaking
[21:17] <ShorTie> there is always the micro-usb connector for a test point
[21:18] <steve_rox> if it was acessible heh
[21:18] <ShorTie> then cut up a cable maybe
[21:18] <steve_rox> rpi seems to have frozen with camera active
[21:18] <ShorTie> don't have to really cut it
[21:19] <ShorTie> just get down to the red and black wires and use a couple pins
[21:19] <jacekowski> it's a shame that they didn't make it faster at the same time
[21:19] <steve_rox> low power warnings stopped when i removed wifi , must be a tight margin
[21:20] <ShorTie> make what faster ??
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[21:20] <jacekowski> rpi
[21:20] <steve_rox> heh
[21:20] <steve_rox> its a soc
[21:20] <steve_rox> talking major overhall etc
[21:20] <ShorTie> can't do that without a new SoC, then it wouldn't be a pi
[21:21] <jacekowski> pi^2 then
[21:21] <steve_rox> anyone know what the max voltage is in for the rpi?
[21:21] <steve_rox> how far over 5.00 can i go?
[21:21] <jacekowski> smoke starts at about 5.7
[21:21] <ShorTie> 5.2 i believe
[21:22] <jacekowski> anything above 5.2 is unhealthy
[21:22] <steve_rox> ill have to try find a way to test whats going in at moment
[21:22] <steve_rox> im using 4 lithions in series going into a dc-dc conversion
[21:22] <ShorTie> how many amps is your supply ??
[21:22] <steve_rox> and when usb wifi was in it moaned
[21:22] <jacekowski> but official spec says 5V +-5%
[21:23] <ShorTie> what is the c rating of those cells ??
[21:23] <steve_rox> no idea
[21:23] <steve_rox> i ripped em out of laptop
[21:24] <steve_rox> maybe i should try 8 in a parrel configuration
[21:24] <jacekowski> 6.2 is going to be high
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[21:24] <steve_rox> its shoveing 16v into the dc-dc board
[21:24] <jacekowski> there are some very nice ready made DC/DC converters
[21:24] <jacekowski> as in, plug and play
[21:25] <steve_rox> this one has its own pot on it so you can set the value
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[21:25] <jacekowski> i typically use recom made 78xx compatible converters
[21:26] <jacekowski> so i can always go linear if i have to for some reason
[21:26] <steve_rox> handy things really can dump any voltage into it within reasion and it will work
[21:26] <jacekowski> http://www.recom-power.com/pdf/Innoline/R-78xx-1.0.pdf
[21:28] <steve_rox> ill take readings off the board i guess
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[21:28] <jacekowski> although you would be surprised how much overvoltage some things can take
[21:29] <steve_rox> lm2596s
[21:29] <jacekowski> at work, we have blind electricians, one of them wired 120V indicator to 230V supply
[21:29] <steve_rox> hehe
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[21:29] <jacekowski> lasted about 2h before exploding
[21:29] <steve_rox> neat :D
[21:29] <jacekowski> first time i saw one of them last that long
[21:30] <jacekowski> previously i saw somebody do that, it made a pretty impresive bang, the moment it was turned on
[21:30] <steve_rox> theres also a neat lil switch on back of most pc psu's which lead to explosion too
[21:31] <jacekowski> i've blown up quite expensive piece of hardware with a switch like that
[21:31] <steve_rox> always fun
[21:31] <jacekowski> i was demonstrating it to someone, unplugged the extension lead it was plugged into from the wall
[21:31] <jacekowski> went back, and switched the switch
[21:31] <jacekowski> to show it to someone
[21:32] <jacekowski> as it turned out, somebody else was using that extension lead and turned it back on
[21:32] <steve_rox> the switches on the psu are usually hard to switch unless you have a finger nail or screw driver
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[21:34] <steve_rox> odd , the rpi is no longer moaning about low power
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[21:35] <steve_rox> dispite me running it on its original config
[21:35] <jacekowski> thing with rpi is, it's sold as a dev board
[21:36] <jacekowski> but normally dev boards are bulletproof when it comes to things like overvoltage and other kind of abuse
[21:36] <steve_rox> ill shove some traffic over the wifi and see what happens
[21:36] <steve_rox> shotgun proof too?
[21:37] <jacekowski> millitary grade
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[21:37] <steve_rox> and tank proof
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[21:42] <steve_rox> power warnings seem to have gone , that is really odd
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[21:56] <steve_rox> gonna reboot this rpi i have unforseen errors
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[21:57] <steve_rox> oh wait wrong rpi
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[22:02] <steve_rox> the new rpi web browser is smoother , i wonder how secure it is
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[22:26] <steve_rox> renders a lot better i guess and doesent waste so much cpu
[22:27] <shiftplusone> wastes lots of cpu, but makes decent use of the gpu
[22:28] <steve_rox> i tryed iceweasel just to compare
[22:28] <steve_rox> and that really goes nuts on cpu usage
[22:28] <steve_rox> solftware rendering i guess
[22:29] <shiftplusone> anything that uses the webkit engine should be improved now
[22:29] <shiftplusone> Maybe try the minimal kiosk browser as well, since it should be quite nice now too
[22:30] <steve_rox> wonder how often they are updated secureity wise
[22:31] <shiftplusone> security is an illusion
[22:32] <steve_rox> as in this browser on rpi or in general?
[22:32] <shiftplusone> in general (of course it doesn't mean we shouldn't try)
[22:32] <steve_rox> ah
[22:32] <shiftplusone> do you have a particular exploit in mind or what?
[22:32] <steve_rox> nah
[22:33] <steve_rox> i doubt id ever use rpi for anything super secure with cc numbers in it
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[22:33] <steve_rox> but just wondering about it
[22:33] <shiftplusone> Why not?
[22:33] <steve_rox> i got noscript plugin installed on iceweasel
[22:33] <steve_rox> but since its so cpu power mad its a bit slow
[22:34] <shiftplusone> Anyway, it will inherit the fixes from upstream webkit.
[22:34] <steve_rox> and i assume this update is applyed thu apt-get ?
[22:34] <steve_rox> not auto
[22:37] <shiftplusone> yeah
[22:37] <shiftplusone> as with everything sensible in linux distros
[22:37] <steve_rox> ill have to rember to apply updates
[22:38] <steve_rox> rpi b+ doing well on these lith-ions
[22:38] <steve_rox> im expecting like 2 hours out of the cells
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[22:41] <steve_rox> cant rember how to disable screenblanking
[22:46] <shiftplusone> it's one of those things nobody remembers how to do
[22:47] <steve_rox> yeah
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[22:50] <steve_rox> and ive fixed it on two other rpi of mine
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[22:54] <ZER0C001> hey all :)
[22:54] <steve_rox> hello
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[22:55] <shiftplusone> hi
[22:55] <shiftplusone> how are the things?
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[23:00] <steve_rox> uptime at 1.26
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[23:00] <steve_rox> lowest cell is at 3.80
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[23:02] <scales11> hi all. Is anyone having issues emulating NES or SNES roms on the Pi? Raspbian or Retropi?
[23:05] <steve_rox> i sorta had problems getting emulators working
[23:05] <steve_rox> then i gave up
[23:06] <Sonny_Jim> I didn't have any troubles really
[23:06] <Sonny_Jim> Just install Rasbian, then use the Retropie script
[23:07] <steve_rox> i tryed using mame or something but there was some annoying issue of it using hdmi only or something
[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> http://blog.petrockblock.com/2012/07/22/retropie-setup-an-initialization-script-for-retroarch-on-the-raspberry-pi/
[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> I used the composite out, worked fine for me
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[23:08] <steve_rox> does this setup clear off the current os or what?
[23:08] <Sonny_Jim> Nope
[23:09] <steve_rox> so its a program that installs along side it
[23:09] <Sonny_Jim> errr
[23:09] <Sonny_Jim> it?
[23:09] <steve_rox> ill give it a go sometime
[23:09] <Sonny_Jim> It just installs RetroArch and a frontend
[23:09] <steve_rox> im doing a battery runtime test at moment
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[23:10] <scales11> Well, I used Ultraslim and everything works, its just that games like Contra (NES) is slow, and non of the SNES games I have tried are anywhere near the proper speed
[23:10] <Sonny_Jim> I did a test with an old 18V drill battery I had and a RC BEC to provide the 5V
[23:10] <scales11> I just didnt know if it was a problem with the pi, the software, my pi, or what
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[23:10] <Sonny_Jim> Lasted about 12hrs when working as a wifi access point
[23:10] <steve_rox> how long did your power last?
[23:10] <steve_rox> ah
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Was a knackered old battery though
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Old NiCad thing
[23:11] <steve_rox> i had a sega emulator but it was hard to get good fps until you lowered rpi rez and overclocked
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> scales11: Never had any problem with NES/SNES/Megadrive
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Even certain PS1 games were just about playable
[23:11] <scales11> Sonny_Jim: are you OC'ing?
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah, stick it up to 900MHz, doesn't hurt anything
[23:12] <scales11> I was using the "modest" setting
[23:12] <steve_rox> if i got the emulators working well maybe id build a custom controlpad for it
[23:12] <Sonny_Jim> The trick is to use framebuffer based emulators rather than Xorg ones
[23:12] <Sonny_Jim> Which is what RetroArch does
[23:12] <scales11> Sonny_Jim: gotcha. I was definitely using Retroarch
[23:13] <scales11> gambatte for gameboy and that worked fine
[23:13] <scales11> the input may have been a touch on the laggy side, either that or I was better at super mario world when I was 6
[23:14] <scales11> I will try OC'ing a bit more and then give retropie a go
[23:14] <steve_rox> only problem is if i start playing a sonic game im instantly hooked and unable to quit
[23:14] <scales11> I would rather use arch because it is lighter than raspbian. raspbian seems pretty bloated
[23:15] <Sonny_Jim> Disk space is cheap now, that's my opinion on it
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[23:17] <scales11> Sonny_Jim: yeah but doesnt raspbian have a ton of stuff running in the background?
[23:20] <steve_rox> wonder if you can do crude water cooling out of plastic
[23:20] <steve_rox> rather than metal heatsinks
[23:21] <SpeedEvil> For what?
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[23:21] <steve_rox> maybe on the rpi cpu just for expermentation sake
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[23:22] <SpeedEvil> Put a tiny fan under the board if you're suffering heat issues.
[23:22] <SpeedEvil> Job done
[23:22] <steve_rox> no room under the board
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[23:25] <Sonny_Jim> I was looking at a pretty cool fan solution yesterdat
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[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> https://www.modmypi.com/picoolfan
[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> Could't find anywhere that had any stock though
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[23:26] <steve_rox> rather expensive
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[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> £12?
[23:27] <steve_rox> kinda seems double overkill
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> *shrug*
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> I thought for the features it was a fair price
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> RTC, PWM controllable from Linux etc
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[23:27] <steve_rox> it has a rtc on it?
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> Yup
[23:28] <steve_rox> oh then i guess it is worth it
[23:28] <steve_rox> i thought it was just a fan with some fancy speed control board thing
[23:28] <Sonny_Jim> But yeah, it's probably overkill
[23:29] <steve_rox> overkill once for adding a heatsink then again for a fan
[23:29] <Sonny_Jim> Oh and it does voltage monitoring
[23:30] <Sonny_Jim> Pretty sure you can get the voltage measurements from the board via i2c as well
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[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah you can
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> So useful for your battery powered situation
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> Shutdown the Pi before the batteries die
[23:31] <steve_rox> id love to have a voltage sensor to use on rpi
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> Review here:
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=77428
[23:31] <steve_rox> not for internal monitoring for external application
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[23:38] <ZER0C001> Im thinking about buying a Pi for something to mess around with
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[23:43] <shiftplusone> Well, it is good for messing around with
[23:43] <bnmorgan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loI1Kwed8Pk
[23:43] <bnmorgan> CURTA mechanical calculator
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[23:46] <Eren97> Yay my first rpi finally set up
[23:46] <Sonny_Jim> Congrats
[23:46] <bnmorgan> congo rats
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[23:47] <shiftplusone> 'Kong Rats?
[23:47] <Eren97> Now... Idk what to do until my wifi dingle arrives :(
[23:47] <Eren97> Dongle
[23:47] <shiftplusone> dingle works fine too
[23:50] <Eren97> Heh
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