#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-09-26

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[0:01] <flexus> something like service restart bla to test maybe, havin no clue on debian
[0:02] <flexus> etc/init.d/bla restart
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[0:03] <flexus> good luck
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[0:32] <NedScott> huh, did they raise the price for the MPEG2 license?
[0:32] <NedScott> or lower the price for the VC-1 license?
[0:32] <NedScott> I thought they were the same before
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[0:51] <steve_rox> 20ma on sudo halt
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[0:51] <steve_rox> with dc-dc board inbetween tho
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[0:55] <qkzoo1978> Hi, my Pi keeps crashing at some point each day with a Kernel Panic message, in the syslog I see about a million lines of gspca_zc3xx 1-1.5:1.0: URB error - 71, resubmitting. I think it has something to do with the webcam, but no idea how to fix it.
[0:55] <steve_rox> low power?
[0:56] <qkzoo1978> I dunno
[0:57] <qkzoo1978> If it was low on power wouldn't it poot out pretty consistently? This seems to be happening after running for like 12 hours or so. I'm still browsing through the syslog looking for more errors, just a million lines of that error I listed above.
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[0:59] <qkzoo1978> It's spitting that message out like a hundred times a second.
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[1:02] <steve_rox> fun stuff
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[1:06] <steve_rox> if only the rpi could wake itself up :-P
[1:08] <niston> is this a cheap USB webcam from china?
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[1:11] <qkzoo1978> yes
[1:11] <qkzoo1978> Well, it's a really old usb webcam I had lying around.
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[1:14] <niston> a while ago I did some tests with a bunch of webcams from different .cn sources, and I noticed that some of them would randomly lock up after a while or start putting out garbage instead of video.
[1:15] <niston> I believe the lock ups were due to non-compliance with USB specs.
[1:16] <qkzoo1978> ok, so unplugging the junk cam could fix the issue, I'll try it out.
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[1:28] <qkzoo1978> niston, I would definitely consider all this output as garbage!
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[1:29] <niston> hehe
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[1:47] <niston> oh how I hate those net radio stations that add their station name to the artist information!
[1:47] <niston> its not like we have a special metadata field for the station name, is it now?!
[1:47] <ozzzy> do we? I don't listen
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[1:48] <niston> yeah, theres a shoutcast tag for the station name -.-
[1:48] <niston> well an ICY tag
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[1:49] <niston> but they still add their name to the artist and because that field has limited size, the song/artist info becomes truncated.
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[1:50] <ozzzy> hmmm
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[1:53] * knob (~knob@adsl-72-50-82-13.prtc.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:53] <knob> Hello everyone :)
[1:54] <niston> hi knob!
[1:54] <knob> Hello niston !
[1:54] <knob> How you doing?
[1:54] <niston> fine, got my USB display working right =)
[1:54] <knob> ftw
[1:54] <knob> Good for you man :)
[1:55] <niston> yay
[1:55] <niston> http://imgur.com/a/xMDYJ
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[1:55] <niston> my raspberry pi network radio project :)
[1:55] <knob> Oh wow man
[1:55] <knob> That looks nice!
[1:56] <knob> What do you do? Stream the local FM?
[1:56] <niston> it will look even nicer once its got its case
[1:56] <niston> it receives shoutcast/icecast streams in MP3, OGG and ACC formats
[1:56] <knob> Nice! ftw man
[1:56] <knob> Shoutcast... loved that
[1:56] <knob> Sad Yahoo! killed WinAmp
[1:57] <niston> I never like winamp
[1:57] <niston> but nullsoft was cool in its early days
[1:58] <therion23> actually it was AOL who killed Winamp
[1:58] <niston> yeah
[1:58] <niston> I wonder how long yp.shoutcast.com is gonna be up
[1:58] <knob> true
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[2:00] <therion23> i ran into Justin Frankel on EFnet just before he got famous
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[2:00] <therion23> we all used that Fraunhofer 16 bit player back then and he had Winamp 0.8 or something to offer
[2:00] <therion23> tried it, liked it, pointed out a few bugs to him, and he went all arrogant and blew up in my face
[2:01] <niston> ahhh http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=658421
[2:01] <niston> WE FADE TO GRAY!
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[2:02] <therion23> Visage?
[2:02] <niston> yeps :D
[2:02] <therion23> still got the 12"
[2:02] <niston> oldschool man
[2:02] <jaggz> I have a headless rpi in my garage with speakers on it.. what can I use for playing media via ssh?
[2:02] <therion23> yeah its teen memories for me
[2:03] <jaggz> or an app I run on my android phone or ipad is fine too.. as long as it controls the rpi and the rpi plays the media (mp3's or podcasts I guess)
[2:03] <niston> jaggz: you could use my streaming player ^^
[2:03] <niston> although it doesnt do anything but streams
[2:03] <jaggz> ?
[2:03] <jaggz> just joined.. visage?
[2:03] <niston> visage - fade to grey (1986)
[2:04] <niston> its a song :D
[2:04] <therion23> 1986? its earlier
[2:04] <therion23> by 86 they were long broken up
[2:04] <niston> hmm true
[2:05] <jaggz> unfortunately, my mp3's are on a windows 7 share.. which I don't think is samba mountable
[2:05] <niston> therion23: It was 1980 actually
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[2:05] <ozzzy> jaggz, yep... they are
[2:06] <niston> jaggz: I think you could make it samba mountable by enabling NTLM or something, iirc
[2:06] <therion23> niston, just read up on it, it was indeed out in 80 but not till 81 it started charting
[2:06] <niston> but it will compromise on security
[2:07] <ozzzy> samba mounted my Win7 shares with no problem
[2:07] <jaggz> looks like subsonic runs on windows too... hrm
[2:07] <jaggz> would need a cli client on the rpi though
[2:08] <niston> https://niston.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/esp_on_raspberry.png
[2:08] <jaggz> that's yours?
[2:08] <niston> yup
[2:09] <jaggz> url?
[2:09] <niston> http://niston.wordpress.com/2014/09/20/cross-platform-development/
[2:09] <jaggz> yikes.. why'd you do mono?
[2:09] <niston> I'm a C# coder :)
[2:10] <jaggz> portability so you could do windows and un*x in mono?
[2:10] <niston> yes
[2:10] <niston> it should also work on Max
[2:10] <niston> Mac
[2:10] <niston> but have none to try it :(
[2:10] <therion23> its easy to make a hackintosh
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[2:10] <niston> my old man has one, I'll ask him one day ^^
[2:11] <therion23> i had a pile of old 1st gen netbooks and took one and slapped Snow Leopard on it
[2:11] * Tach[Eorzea] is now known as Tachyon`
[2:11] <therion23> sure, it took two days to get it right, but it worked
[2:11] <niston> what kinda netbook? EeePC?
[2:12] <therion23> Acer aspire one, almost same hardware as the EEE900
[2:13] <therion23> and incidentally the same chipset as the original MacBook so there are drivers for everything, its only the wlan that gets troublesome
[2:13] <therion23> it takes time and a LOT of patience but it can be done
[2:14] <jaggz> is there a CLI app like xbmc?
[2:14] <jaggz> something with plugins so I can get different listings (without searching for them)... hrm..
[2:15] <therion23> jaggz, for straight playback there is omx
[2:15] <therion23> omxplayer actually
[2:16] <jaggz> looking at it.. looks like it'll do graphics too.. hrm
[2:16] <therion23> it does video playback on a text console without X
[2:17] <jaggz> using graphics? (framebuffer)?
[2:17] <therion23> won't manage your files, pure command line, but it totally wins on low cpu usage
[2:17] <jaggz> or using aalib or whatever for graphics->text :)
[2:17] <therion23> yeah some kind of fb, i dunno much about that but that has to be it
[2:17] <niston> ASCII video display, w00t!
[2:17] <therion23> something like svgalib in the old days
[2:17] <jaggz> ansi video display would be awesome
[2:18] <therion23> i think mplayer has an ascii renderer .. or maybe it is vlc
[2:18] <jaggz> 256 color aalib
[2:18] <niston> telnet://towel.blinkenlights.nl comes to mind ^^
[2:19] <therion23> anyway, omxplayer is actually really good if you want simple hidef video on your screen
[2:20] <NedScott> you could just use XBMC and then use the command line to control it
[2:20] <NedScott> but I'm not sure what your end game is
[2:21] <therion23> wasn't omx made as proof of concept that xbmc could run on a pi?
[2:21] <jaggz> gawwww starwars remade by hand
[2:22] <NedScott> therion23: apparently
[2:22] <NedScott> "Omxplayer is a video player specifically made for the Raspberry PI's GPU made by Edgar (gimli) Hucek from the XBMC project."
[2:22] <therion23> that is the impression i got when i read about it anyway
[2:24] <niston> I think he wants to play audio files
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[2:25] <jaggz> and maybe audio from videos
[2:25] <jaggz> and audio feeds
[2:25] <niston> so omxplayer may be indeed for you :)
[2:25] <jaggz> but all audio.. the idea is to have something out there while I'm doing things..
[2:27] <NedScott> well, if you want access to add-on content, you can run XBMC from a remote interface. Either web UI or a smart phone UI, and you don't need to plug anything into HDMI on the Pi
[2:28] <therion23> if you just wanna stream audio from an online whatevercast server, mpg321 should do the trick
[2:28] <therion23> it has no bells and less whistles but it will stream just nicely
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[2:32] <jaggz> there's an android UI to use my rpi xbmc from remote?
[2:32] <jaggz> mpg123 does streaming? didn't know that..
[2:34] <jaggz> mplayer has a -novideo option but omxplayer .. not sure yet.. looking into it
[2:35] <niston> yup xbmcremote
[2:35] <niston> lemme check on my fone
[2:35] <niston> yes "XBMC Remote"
[2:36] <jaggz> yeah, got it.. nice
[2:36] <jaggz> oh they have access to my contacts.. sms.. photos videos.. device id and call information
[2:36] <jaggz> what in the world
[2:37] <jaggz> why contacts and sms?
[2:37] <niston> yeah :/ a lot of apps want everything for nothing.
[2:38] <NedScott> jaggz: it's for the caller ID feature
[2:38] <NedScott> the remote can pause a movie when someone calls and show you who is calling on XBMC
[2:38] <niston> oh haha nice
[2:38] * jaggz shivers
[2:38] <NedScott> yeah, it makes me want to get an Android phone, but no one ever calls me anyways
[2:39] <jaggz> maybe they have it for normal cordless phones :)
[2:39] <niston> aww raspberry stickers sold out on swag :(
[2:39] <jaggz> okay.. so xbmc remote is installed..
[2:40] <jaggz> mplayer can do -vo caca (color ascii video playing)
[2:40] <jaggz> trying to see if omxplayer can do caca or aalib
[2:40] <jaggz> but I guess first I should get xbmc running with the xbmc remote.. so .. hmm
[2:43] <jaggz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w6zKL2Zmjo&feature=youtu.be
[2:43] <jaggz> LOOKS like I need to have display to set it up in the first place though
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[2:45] <therion23> mpg123 doesn't but mpg321 does as far as i remember
[2:47] <NedScott> jaggz: you can turn on the remote functions by manually editing the guisettings.xml file for XBMC
[2:47] <jaggz> looks like xbmc isn't even installed in my last raspbian attempt :)
[2:48] <jaggz> (tried openelec .. but it was incredibly slow).. or was that xbmc under raspbian that was awful? hmm
[2:48] <jaggz> trying xbmc under x11 forwarding right now.. let's see if it displays through
[2:48] <NedScott> OpenELEC is what you want
[2:49] <NedScott> for speed
[2:49] <jaggz> it was too naked of a system..
[2:49] <jaggz> hmm
[2:49] <NedScott> then I'd go with RaspBMC
[2:49] <niston> jaggz: raspbmc ?
[2:49] <jaggz> this rpi was originally destined to be my sprinkler control box :)
[2:51] <jaggz> can I try in raspbian right now ? I've configured a bunch on this system.. .. hmm
[2:51] <jaggz> is it that bad if I'm only doing audio and using another device as the remote?
[2:52] <jaggz> I don't even want X up and running
[2:52] <jaggz> okay.. forget it for now.. I'll just stream things for now .. I'll find what I want and stream it
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[6:13] <ZER0C001> evening all :)
[6:14] <[Saint]> nah!
[6:14] <ZER0C001> im looking at getting my first pi
[6:15] <[Saint]> Aha.
[6:15] <AlmtyBob> still haven't pulled the trigger?
[6:15] <ZER0C001> not yet still trying to figure out what to get
[6:15] <[Saint]> Try not to get suckered in by overpriced "starter kits".
[6:15] <ZER0C001> right
[6:15] <AlmtyBob> the kit you were looking at the other day wasn't a bad one
[6:15] <ZER0C001> i cant beat 77 bucks on amazon though with everything ya need including GPIO stuf
[6:16] <[Saint]> They're all fairly atrocious.
[6:16] <[Saint]> Capitalizing on the uninformed.
[6:16] <ZER0C001> yeah, I may go with just a B and get one of those GPIO kits from china
[6:16] <ZER0C001> my 9 year old son wants a new project him and I can do together
[6:16] <[Saint]> Adding the words "for raspberrypi" to any arbitrary item allows a vendor to charge a 20~30% premium.
[6:16] <[Saint]> Its disgusting.
[6:16] <ZER0C001> exactly
[6:16] <ZER0C001> when monoprice has the cables ya need dirt cheap
[6:17] * [Saint] nods
[6:17] <AlmtyBob> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G1PNG54/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A30ZYR2W3VAJ0A
[6:17] <[Saint]> You're onto it, dear Sir and/or mADAM.
[6:17] <AlmtyBob> ^-- that's not particularly overpriced
[6:17] <ZER0C001> yup thats the one I was looking at
[6:17] <AlmtyBob> yah, I know, pulled it from history
[6:17] <AlmtyBob> if you're going to do introductory electronics tinkering, why not?
[6:17] <ZER0C001> right, thats what we are gonna do
[6:17] <AlmtyBob> and it's prime eligible!
[6:18] <ZER0C001> lol yeah I got a free month of prime
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[6:18] <AlmtyBob> I bought a treadmill and a rowing machine that each weighed a couple hundred pounds, signed up for Prime since a year of prime was cheaper than the shipping
[6:18] <ZER0C001> nice
[6:18] <AlmtyBob> I've kept it ever since, I use it all the time. Just used it today matter of fact
[6:18] <ZER0C001> prime is pretty awesome
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[6:22] <[Saint]> holy crap - the raspberrypi images I've been seeding have had a really huge boost in traffic over the past two months.
[6:22] <[Saint]> I wonder what that corresponds to.
[6:22] <[Saint]> Almost double the traffic from the averages of the past year prior.
[6:22] <ZER0C001> the only thing drawing me to a regular B is the amount of stuff that you can get for it
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[6:23] <[Saint]> I have seeded 1.4TB of raspberrypi images since I started seeding them.
[6:23] <[Saint]> Wow.
[6:23] <ZER0C001> thats a ton
[6:23] <AlmtyBob> wow.
[6:23] <[Saint]> Indeed.
[6:23] <AlmtyBob> got much hate mail from your ISP?
[6:24] <ZER0C001> I collect vintage computers so my first project was gonna be a pi with an LCD display that shows PPP over Serial status
[6:24] <[Saint]> Hahahaha. No. I have one of the very few absolutely true unlimited plans on offer.
[6:24] <[Saint]> No cap or throttling, at all, period.
[6:24] <ZER0C001> that must be nice
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[6:24] <ZER0C001> we have no cap here Charter isnt too bad
[6:25] <AlmtyBob> heh so I got a usage email from my ISP for downstream. At first I was pissed then I read it and it turns out I went over 500gb in a month, so then I felt bad 8(
[6:25] <AlmtyBob> I've cut back
[6:25] <AlmtyBob> Cox is pretty good too. It's insanely fast at least
[6:25] <ZER0C001> ive got a 60MB downstream and 5 up
[6:25] <[Saint]> Expensive, but, yes. It is. There's also nothing in the contract prohibiting me from subleasing the connection, either, so I have two lines and use them to run a small wireless ISP for the neighbours.
[6:25] <ZER0C001> so i cant complain, I rarely go over 250gb
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[6:25] <AlmtyBob> 120/30
[6:26] <ZER0C001> damn nice
[6:26] <ZER0C001> charter is kind of bad in michigan
[6:26] <AlmtyBob> and that's actual.
[6:27] <[Saint]> They pay $10 or $12 (the extra $2 is for a wireless repeater station that doubles as a NAS and anonimizer) for a months worth of all the wifi they can handle.
[6:27] <ZER0C001> my 5mb upstream sucks
[6:27] <AlmtyBob> this is what I'm using my pi for at work: http://ramenite.net/pi.jpg
[6:27] <[Saint]> I have two ~30dBi directional parabolic antennas and a bunch of B/G/N repeater stations/NAS built from raspis.
[6:27] <AlmtyBob> don't mind the temporary weird wood enclosure
[6:27] <AlmtyBob> that's cool
[6:27] <[Saint]> My broadcast range is pretty bloody large counting the repeaters.
[6:28] <[Saint]> I can cover about ~400m with the parabolic antennas alone.
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[6:28] <[Saint]> (at 100% broadcast)
[6:29] <[Saint]> But, yes, my ISP /does/ hate me for it.
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[6:29] <AlmtyBob> those little 16x32 RGB led panels I got from Adafruit rock.
[6:29] <ZER0C001> oh now thats cool
[6:29] <ZER0C001> was that hard to get going
[6:29] <[Saint]> There's just nothing they can do about it. ;)
[6:29] <AlmtyBob> yes. And I had a guy in Slots do the wiring.
[6:29] <AlmtyBob> It's all in C++ and I haven't touched C++ in 20 years
[6:29] <AlmtyBob> there was much pain but much learning
[6:30] <[Saint]> AlmtyBob: I've been playing a lot with the PiTFT panel lately.
[6:30] <ZER0C001> Im not much of a programmer
[6:30] <ZER0C001> im a hardware junky
[6:30] <AlmtyBob> [Saint]: how do you like it?
[6:30] <AlmtyBob> ZER0C001: you should really get into Arduino then. I think you'd like the language and it's a great jumping off point
[6:30] <ZER0C001> ive looked at that
[6:30] <[Saint]> I'm thinking about adding them to my NAS/personal host/wireless repeater/anonimizing AP boxes for my clients.
[6:30] <AlmtyBob> You can write meaningful programs that actually DO something in the real world right off the bat
[6:30] <ZER0C001> oh thats neat
[6:30] <[Saint]> They're very nice little displays.
[6:31] <[Saint]> ANd you can add tactile buttons to the screen bezel.
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[6:31] <AlmtyBob> clean & crisp?
[6:31] <[Saint]> which rocks.
[6:31] <[Saint]> It is, yes.
[6:31] <AlmtyBob> how much?
[6:31] <[Saint]> Its quite bright too.
[6:31] <[Saint]> Ummm...it cost me about $40NZD to get here.
[6:31] <AlmtyBob> what's the res?
[6:32] <[Saint]> So, convert that into $your_moneies
[6:32] <AlmtyBob> about $30 in real money
[6:32] <[Saint]> 320x240
[6:32] <[Saint]> http://www.adafruit.com/product/1601
[6:32] <[Saint]> awesome wee screen.
[6:32] <AlmtyBob> I like adafruit bunches.
[6:33] <AlmtyBob> that is nice
[6:33] <[Saint]> http://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pitft-pibow
[6:33] <ZER0C001> arduino stuff looks cool too
[6:33] <[Saint]> I got a couple of those for myself to house them.
[6:33] <AlmtyBob> ZER0C001: It really, really is
[6:33] <ZER0C001> theres a complete starter kit on ebay for 60 bucks too
[6:33] <AlmtyBob> We use them in a few places at work and they're a joy to work with
[6:33] <[Saint]> Thinking of getting a bunch of them to make my repeater box V2
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[6:34] <AlmtyBob> oh that enclosure with the screen is awesome
[6:34] <ZER0C001> Ive got a 9 year old son that wants to learn electronics so I was thinking the pi kit or the arduino kit to play with
[6:34] <AlmtyBob> can that screen be run in addition to the HDMI out?
[6:34] <AlmtyBob> ZER0C001: arduino is MUCH easier and MUCH more straightforward
[6:34] <[Saint]> Have a button to wake/sleep the display, and display NAS disk capacity, load, time/date/etc.
[6:34] <AlmtyBob> Write some code in Windows (or linux, whatever), plug the Arduino, hit upload, Done.
[6:34] <[Saint]> I'll find a use for it I'm sure.
[6:35] <[Saint]> Perhaps add a way to contact me directly fromt he repeater itself.
[6:36] <[Saint]> And yes, the PiTFT Pibow case is bloody awesome.
[6:36] <[Saint]> I have two of 'em.
[6:37] <[Saint]> One of them serves as a kind of IRC answering machine that lets me know when there's a highlight for me on a channel when no client(s) attached.
[6:37] <ZER0C001> see for my RPI project all I wanted to build was a simple linux based box that would run PPP over serial and have it display its status on an LCD
[6:37] <AlmtyBob> go ahead and use it for that then grab an arduino for tinkering with your son
[6:37] <[Saint]> I also have several of these cute little guys:
[6:37] <[Saint]> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1516846343/microview-chip-sized-arduino-with-built-in-oled-di
[6:38] <[Saint]> They're _awesome_.
[6:38] <[Saint]> (I have the USB adapter plate with them too)
[6:38] <ZER0C001> nice
[6:38] <ZER0C001> man ive been tinkering with the wrong things
[6:38] <[Saint]> Heh. :)
[6:38] <ZER0C001> vintage computers, when all this arduino stuff is out there and the RPI stuff
[6:39] <ZER0C001> heres a decent RPI model B on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/171448230603
[6:40] <AlmtyBob> the Pi's and arduinos are both fun to use to hack existing tech too, that's what I'm doing with mine in that pic I posted ( http://ramenite.net/pi.jpg ). Basically intercepting a serial signal and displaying stuff to the LED grid based on the signal
[6:40] <ZER0C001> thats cool
[6:40] <[Saint]> I use one of those tiny microview displays to display CPU and RAM usage, plus load average, on a raspberrypi that handles my samba shares and subsonic backend.
[6:40] <[Saint]> Its pretty neat.
[6:41] <ZER0C001> yeah i collect vintage computers and for some affordable ethernet isnt an option, so i was thinking a pi with a small LCD that can show my PPP status or network status on it
[6:41] <[Saint]> I have quite a few SBCs scattered around the place performing arbitrary tasks.
[6:41] <ZER0C001> they seem like the logical thing to use
[6:41] <[Saint]> They're just so damn power efficient.
[6:41] <ZER0C001> i was using an HP thin client for the PPP box
[6:41] <[Saint]> The raspi uses like...~4W or something silly.
[6:41] <AlmtyBob> if you're doing it over Serial the arduino can handle that too. Either one would be great
[6:42] <[Saint]> The B2 uses even less than that. Its crazy.
[6:42] <ZER0C001> right, yeah basically im running a PPP process in debian over an RS232 connection providing IP to the amiga
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[8:06] <NedScott> neat, MPEG2 licenses bought from the Pi foundation work on ODROID-W. Which makes sense, since they're just generated from the SoC serial number.
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[8:09] <Xark> NedScott: That is interesting. :)
[8:09] <NedScott> once I had a license code for DTS hardware decoding, for testing purposes, but that Pi burned out :(
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[8:12] <Xark> Thankfully I haven't needed a license to watch the snippet of Big Buck Bunny. :)
[8:12] <Xark> (so far my big RPi media use...)
[8:13] <CoJaBo> lol
[8:13] <CoJaBo> You get most of the codecs free, tho they aren't listed anywhere for weird reasons
[8:14] <CoJaBo> h264 is really the only one that matters
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[8:14] <Xark> That is one of the free ones?
[8:15] <CoJaBo> yed['[]
[8:15] <CoJaBo> ]s
[8:15] <Xark> Cool.
[8:15] <Xark> The snippet looked quite nice. :)
[8:15] <CoJaBo> I can't believe how fast the decoding is even
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[8:33] <RahulAN> Hii a;;
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[8:33] <RahulAN> all
[8:34] <AlmtyBob> oh hi
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[8:34] <RahulAN> I am following this http://blog.riyas.org/2013/12/using-any-tv-remote-to-control.html
[8:34] <RahulAN> but i want to control TV with pi..
[8:35] <RahulAN> i recoded 2 channel \s but now how to fire it via transmitter
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[8:41] <RahulAN> what to do next..
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[8:43] <Xark> RahulAN: You mean control TV with an IR (so the Pi is a remote control)?
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[8:44] <Xark> RahulAN: It should be doable, but it is possible you will need a small MCU (if RPi isn't timing isn't good enough for IR modulation - as I suspect).
[8:45] <Jck_true> Xark: It is in fact :)
[8:45] <Xark> Jck_true: It is good enough for IR?
[8:45] <Jck_true> Xark: Yeah I send IR commands to my amplifier :)
[8:45] <Xark> RahulAN: I would suppose you would adapt a project like this to use RPi -> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-control-your-TV-with-an-Arduino/
[8:46] <Xark> Jck_true: Cool, tell RahulAN how you did it. :)
[8:46] <Jck_true> http://aron.ws/projects/lirc_rpi/
[8:47] <Jck_true> RahulAN: Then use irsend to send the command you encoded
[8:47] <DanDare> IR modulation is funny, not exact sequences and such
[8:47] <DanDare> much more like patterns I guess
[8:47] <Jck_true> it's a 37khz carrier with the signal modulated ontop
[8:47] <DanDare> I see
[8:48] <Jck_true> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC-5 :)
[8:49] <DanDare> Nice, thank you
[8:50] <Jck_true> I bought a used rather expensive amplifier last year... Only to discover the remote that followed along wasn't the right model
[8:51] <Jck_true> (Only 10 of the keys on the remote works - And they are all mislabled)
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[8:51] <Jck_true> So my Pi now recodes 2 other remotes to function
[8:55] <RahulAN> yes i want that Xark I need to controll TV via Pi
[8:56] <RahulAN> Jck_true, how do i get the remote name?
[8:58] <RahulAN> I got the lircd.conf file with my 2 buttons code
[8:58] <RahulAN> Now do i only need to send it by the command using emmiter?
[8:59] <RahulAN> http://codepad.org/2VdDCV8g
[8:59] <RahulAN> this is my lircd.conf
[9:00] <jacekowski> Jck_true: i control mine using CEC, and all i'm doing is changing vlume
[9:00] <jacekowski> Jck_true: but the original remote has like 100 buttons
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[9:00] <Jck_true> jacekowski: This is an oldschool amplifier
[9:01] <RahulAN> Jck_true, Is this file correct?
[9:01] <RahulAN> because here i m seeing is not that
[9:01] <Jck_true> RahulAN: Ehh trying to remember - YOu can perhaps find your complete remote file here - http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/
[9:02] <RahulAN> Jck_true, its not there
[9:02] <Jck_true> It seems to be missing a proper name -
[9:02] <RahulAN> I got the name sansui but there as not much button as i have here
[9:02] <RahulAN> on my remote
[9:03] <Jck_true> RahulAN: Ehh try and fix the name entry firsrt then call the command
[9:03] <Jck_true> name SANSUI
[9:04] <RahulAN> you mean after begin remote?
[9:04] <Jck_true> irsend SEND_ONCE SANSUI KEY_CHANNELUP
[9:04] <Jck_true> Yeah :)
[9:05] <RahulAN> oK i will try
[9:06] <RahulAN> i need to connect transmitter now
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[9:49] <jaggz> which is faster, openelec or raspbmc?
[9:49] <jaggz> I need to be able to run it headless.. what do I do?
[9:49] <jaggz> will X run without a display?
[9:49] <AlmtyBob> why are you running it headless?
[9:49] <jaggz> no mouse, no kb, just ssh
[9:49] <AlmtyBob> audio only?
[9:49] <jaggz> it's in the garage for listening only
[9:50] <AlmtyBob> http://lifehacker.com/raspberry-pi-xbmc-solutions-compared-raspbmc-vs-openel-1394239600
[9:50] <AlmtyBob> ^- if you haven't seen that already, granted it's a bit old
[9:50] <AlmtyBob> instead of ssh have you considered using the web interface or is that too much overhead?
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[9:52] <jaggz> I haven't tried...
[9:52] <AlmtyBob> pretty sure the web interface will do what you need it to do
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[9:52] <AlmtyBob> according to lifehacker openelec is the faster of the two
[9:53] <jaggz> I have raspbian on an sdcard right now... xbmc apparently's not set up on it.. but iirc it was slow in raspbian before (unbearably slow0 so I was going to try a faster os
[9:53] <jaggz> I tried openelec before too... but it was too bare of a linux system so I couldn't handle it!
[9:53] <jaggz> I need me linux
[9:53] <AlmtyBob> for what, if it's just a media player?
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[9:55] <AlmtyBob> actually, according to that article, XBian is probably right for you since it's built on top of generic linux yet is faster than Raspbmc
[9:56] <jaggz> ahh
[9:56] <AlmtyBob> apparently they even have their own channel on freenode, #xbian
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[9:56] <jaggz> I dunno.. manage the system? do anything? look for files? setup my sprinkler system with cron and stuff... just .. too uncomfortable with it.
[9:56] <jaggz> but I got an extra sdcard now so I can put something else on it
[9:57] <jaggz> without redoing all my work..
[9:57] <jaggz> what's an xbian windows installer?
[9:58] <jaggz> does it install to an sdcard from within windows, or install xbian on a windows machine somehow?
[9:58] <AlmtyBob> yes, I'm pretty sure it just installs it onto the card for you
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[9:58] <AlmtyBob> so you don't have to screw with images yourself
[9:59] <jaggz> thanks :)
[9:59] <AlmtyBob> good luck
[9:59] <jaggz> thanks :)
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[10:00] <jaggz> so I'll run xbmc on this, and use its port 80 stuff to access it
[10:00] <AlmtyBob> yah
[10:00] <AlmtyBob> make sure to read up, it might use 8080 or smth
[10:00] <jaggz> oh.. the issue is having no x display
[10:00] <jaggz> xbmc might not run at all ..
[10:00] <AlmtyBob> does it use X?
[10:00] <AlmtyBob> I don't think xbmc does
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[10:01] <jaggz> maybe framebuffer stuff
[10:01] <jaggz> or whatever that is
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[10:01] <jaggz> but it still won't have a display to do it..
[10:01] <AlmtyBob> direct hardware video access
[10:01] <AlmtyBob> sure, but you won't need one with a web interface
[10:02] <jaggz> the installers download the images AND write them to the sdcard
[10:02] <AlmtyBob> you might want an initial one
[10:02] <jaggz> (so it lets you pick an image)
[10:02] <AlmtyBob> err, you might want to initially hook it up to a monitor for configuration's sake
[10:02] <jaggz> yeah
[10:02] <jaggz> I'm just worried that it wants the display -- the web interface being just for a "remote control"
[10:02] <jaggz> we'll see
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[10:05] <AlmtyBob> here's something I didn't read because it's long but seems possibly relevant
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[10:05] <AlmtyBob> https://github.com/benjamind/delarre.docpad/blob/master/src/documents/posts/setting-up-a-raspberry-pi-media-center.html.md
[10:05] <jaggz> heh.. thanks :)
[10:05] <jaggz> yeah I was looking up "headless xbmc" pages
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[10:34] <Gadgetoid> Arrr gordonDrogon?
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[10:40] <gordonDrogon> What Ho!
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[10:42] * gordonDrogon adds a Gadgetoid there just to make sure..
[10:42] <Gadgetoid> Aha, you made it back alive! Hurrah... sorry I didn't get to say goodbye!
[10:42] <Gadgetoid> Or, rather, "until next time, muwahaha"
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> yea, I looked around but I thought you'd popped out to lunch. ah well :)
[10:44] <gordonDrogon> Might be up again in about 4 weeks time though. Keep some more of that acrylic back for me if it's free ;-)
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[10:45] <Gadgetoid> Ooh, will do! Those are the good offcuts, I think they'll be hoarded!
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[10:46] <gordonDrogon> :)
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> I picked up a handfull of coloured ones on my way out too..
[10:48] <Gadgetoid> Lovely toxic yellow?
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> yup.
[10:49] <jaggz> I keep loosing my ssh connection to my rpi ..
[10:49] <jaggz> relogs in fine
[10:49] <Gadgetoid> jaggz, wifi, with slightly too little power?
[10:50] <jaggz> should be really strong right here.. I'm right below the router
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> anyway - won't be here much today - have a christening we're catering for tomorrow. well some of it. so off to get ready to make a few 100 shortbread hearts, etc.
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> directly above or below is actually the worst place - think of the signal being like a ring donut..
[10:50] <Gadgetoid> Cripes! And mmmm, shortbread!
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> however in the same room, you'll get so many reflections it won't matter.
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[10:51] <jaggz> signal 98/100 .. noise 0/100
[10:51] <gordonDrogon> look for things like keep-aline in the config files - some APs like to go into a low-power mode and expect the clients to do the same.
[10:51] <Gadgetoid> Sure I had trouble with my wifi dongle if the Pi was just on the cusp of supplying it enough power, I could be making that up though
[10:51] <gordonDrogon> *keep alive
[10:51] <jaggz> and the router has 3 antennas
[10:51] <jaggz> I set keepalive on in putty
[10:51] <gordonDrogon> set it on the sshd_config file on the Pi too.
[10:51] <jaggz> 300s
[10:51] <jaggz> oik
[10:51] <jaggz> thanks :)
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[10:52] <jaggz> have a blessed christening .. if that's the right terminology?
[10:52] <Gadgetoid> It'll be a bloated christening with Gordon's food!
[10:52] <gordonDrogon> yea :)
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[10:52] <jaggz> Religious discussions in IRC are the bestest
[10:53] <jaggz> ask me about Islamic Sufism
[10:53] <gordonDrogon> I'm only making shortbread & cupcakes -but they have a pizza oven and I'm sure my bread making skills will be needed tomorrow :)
[10:53] <gordonDrogon> I'm an athiest. There is no god. doesn't stop me going to a good 'do' though.
[10:53] <Gadgetoid> Awww! Darnit!
[10:53] <jaggz> are you more agnostic or more atheist?
[10:54] <jaggz> see, I just timed out after these couple minutes
[10:54] <jaggz> or got disconnected I mean
[10:54] <jaggz> something's wrong I think :(
[10:54] <Gadgetoid> I'd say I teeter on agnostic, since given our current level of technological progression it's not unlikely that we will be "god" to another civilisation
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> jaggz, 100% athiest.
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[10:54] <jaggz> weird..
[10:55] <jaggz> never thought that was a good scientific point of view.. and I was raised in various sciences
[10:55] <gordonDrogon> I was raised by an engineer.
[10:55] <jaggz> so agnostic worked for me, once I got into my mid teens and considered these things
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> right., to the kitchenarium :)
[10:56] <jaggz> enjoy :) num num
[10:56] <jacekowski> gordonDrogon: buddhism - they do not believe in god
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[10:57] <jacekowski> gordonDrogon: they pretty much believe in doing good to others and stuff
[10:57] <jaggz> Gadgetoid: hmm.. I wonder if it could be a power thing.. I have a 1.5amp supply on the rpi.. and nothing else going on in it
[10:58] <jaggz> just lost connection again.. it keeps happening
[10:58] <jaggz> jacekowski: and discovering the unity of all things :)
[10:58] <Gadgetoid> Have a USB hub handy?
[10:59] <jaggz> hmm.. I could go grab one.. I have one :)
[10:59] <Gadgetoid> My power theory may be voodoo, since I've got no evidence to back it up
[10:59] <jaggz> oh yeah.. maybe a log would show something going on
[10:59] <Gadgetoid> And I've successfully run wifi when powering a Pi from a USB->Serial cable from my laptop
[11:00] <jaggz> I'm using the popular usb wifi dongle amazon chose to associate with the rpi
[11:00] <jaggz> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MTTJOY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[11:01] * jaggz cries at another disconnect.... it just keeps happening
[11:04] <Gadgetoid> That's extraordinarily frequent...
[11:04] <jaggz> yeah
[11:04] <jaggz> the pc I'm on is wired... and connected to multiple machines.. the rpi is right here and its signal seems very strong..
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[11:05] <jaggz> weird.. I'm going to move the RPI to a different outlet.. maybe that can somehow cause this
[11:05] <jaggz> that'll give a different location too
[11:05] <jaggz> yup.. went back to putty and it's disconnected again
[11:05] <jaggz> maybe it's hot
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[12:54] <RahulAN> Is there any way to test my IR transmitter is working or not..
[12:54] <RahulAN> i am not able to send any signal up there on tv
[12:55] <SpeedEvil> point it at a webcam
[12:55] <SpeedEvil> Or other camera
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[13:20] <RahulAN> SpeedEvil, by that what will happen?
[13:25] <SpeedEvil> you can generally see remotes
[13:25] <SpeedEvil> to some extent, when pointed at the camera
[13:25] <SpeedEvil> webcam/phone/...
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[13:41] <RahulAN> SpeedEvil, nothing happening
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[14:21] <SpeedEvil> Try it with a noremal remote, and comapre
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[14:43] <Joe_knock> Hello folks.
[14:43] <e7p> currently I am struggling with pythons RPi.GPIO. I have two buttons on the raspberry pi and want one button to be blocking in a loop, but only until another button is pressed. And I am kind of becoming desperate how to do this with python-rpi.gpio. I have thought about threading, but then I'm not able to stop/kill this thread, if the other button is pressed.
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[14:44] <ch007m> This question is perhaps not specific to Raspberry but I will ask you nevertheless: Can the formatting of the USB HD shared using Samba can influence speed to copy files (I have measured from a MAc --> samba --> 5G/12minutes with ext4 disk formated ) ??
[14:44] <shiftplusone> 'blocking in a loop'?
[14:44] <shiftplusone> ch007m, by formatting, do you mean filesystem or what?
[14:45] <ch007m> shiftplusone: Filesystem mounted on the USB external disk is ext4
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> e7p, so a loop that loops while button 1 is pressed, but if button 2 is pressed it exits regardless of button 1?
[14:45] <e7p> shiftplusone: I have a while(True) loop, and in that a GPIO.wait_for_edge which blocks until the first button is pressed.
[14:45] <shiftplusone> e7p, ah, I see.
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> e7p, ah.
[14:46] <shiftplusone> there's no callback thing you can do with interrupts?
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> I don't do python, but if I understand it, wait_for_edge is a 0 cpu cycle wait.
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[14:46] <e7p> shiftplusone: well, it is possible, but then I don't really know if it would be easier to handle, because I must have somewhere my main program.
[14:47] <e7p> gordonDrogon: thats right, but as it is only waiting for the edge to happen, it can't be aborted.
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[14:47] <shiftplusone> ch007m, I didn't mean to ask about your disk. I was asking you to clarify your question. If you're asking whether the filesystem type can affect transfer speeds, yes, greatly.
[14:48] <e7p> If I do it with callbacks, what should I do with my main program? Don't want to make a while(not_finished): sleep(0.1) loop.
[14:48] <e7p> ah. well I could try it with blocking the second button, and while that getting the first button's callbacks.
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[14:49] <shiftplusone> You could put a mutex in there. Free it up when the button is pressed, try to obtain it in the main loop. Initialize it as obtained.
[14:50] <shiftplusone> depends on the context of what you want to actually do
[14:50] <ch007m> Should I go for ext4 filesystem or another FS (for the external USB HDD) when mainly I will share files from a Macintosh using samba (maybe I could also use netatalk) ?
[14:51] <shiftplusone> Don't know what netatalk is, but yes, you should definitely use ext4
[14:51] <e7p> shiftplusone: thanks, will have a look over that. It's my first real python project.
[14:51] <shiftplusone> e7p, so you can get out while you still can and use a real language then =P
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[14:53] <gordonDrogon> yea, use C and wiringPi :)
[14:54] <e7p> yeah. would be really nicer...
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[14:55] <e7p> the thing is that I also don't really like, that this python gpio thing needs to be run as root as it needs access to /dev/mem
[14:55] <e7p> would be so much better using wiringPi
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi needs root too...
[14:56] <shiftplusone> e7p, Though I've looked up how it would be done in python https://docs.python.org/2/library/threading.html#semaphore-objects
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> however both can be run in normal userland if all you need is simple in/out, but it's a little slower. (actually a lot slower)
[14:56] <shiftplusone> At least that's the first approach that comes to mind and might be influenced by the sort of thing I'm currently working on. Perhaps gordonDrogon has a better solution than using semaphores.
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> it depends on the need to have a 0 cpu cycle block when waiting on the pin.
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> if you could busy-loop spin then it would be easier.
[14:58] <gordonDrogon> otherwise you can put both pins into edge trigger mode, then use select() and find which pin fires first.
[14:58] <shiftplusone> well, I would imagine that a blocking semaphore acquire would be 0-ish cycle as well, no? At least I would hope so.
[14:58] <gordonDrogon> probably.
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[14:59] <shiftplusone> actually, locks seem more appropriate https://docs.python.org/2/library/threading.html#lock-objects
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[15:01] <shiftplusone> anyway... back to breaking things.
[15:01] <ch007m> shiftplusone: netatalk = Apple Talk Protocol
[15:01] <e7p> shiftplusone: thanks for your research, I am really appreciating. But I think I am on the right way...
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[15:01] <e7p> lock objects can be nice.
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[15:08] <e7p> mh... I think this python thing is really ugly. too bad for the already coded 454 lines of code.
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[15:12] <Eren97> So what funny things can I do with a rpi in my network
[15:12] <Eren97> I wanna have a dlna server but I'll need a powered USB Hub for that
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[15:13] <IT_Sean> define "funny"?
[15:13] <Eren97> Mhh could the rpi work out as a seedbox?
[15:13] <Eren97> IT_Sean: the feeling of completing something? :D
[15:14] <Eren97> Mhh I could start with some python right
[15:15] <e7p> well python is quite nice and easy using arrays and lists and such. but as it goes to raspberry pi GPIO, it is all really ruining.
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[15:15] <Eren97> What about C
[15:16] <shiftplusone> it's interesting how much higher level abstraction layers can interfere with what you want to do.
[15:16] <shiftplusone> an issue I ran in the linux kernel with dmaengine.
[15:16] <Eren97> I've recently started out with a C book anyway
[15:17] <Eren97> Btw does any widow manager or desktop environment run by default?
[15:17] <shiftplusone> I know the 1s and 0s and where I need to put them. But to do it with dmaengine you need to jump through 100 hoops to get to that level.
[15:17] <Eren97> On raspbian
[15:17] <shiftplusone> Eren97, lxde
[15:17] <Eren97> Can I disable it.
[15:17] <shiftplusone> of course
[15:18] <Eren97> I run it headless with ssh anyway
[15:18] <shiftplusone> There's no mandatory desktop environment >.>
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[15:18] <shiftplusone> and definitely no U2 material.
[15:19] <Eren97> U2?
[15:20] <Eren97> aaaand... How can I disable it?
[15:20] * IT_Sean fires up Pandora and puts on some U2
[15:20] <milosz96> hi, is that possible to configure DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER_TCP_PORT_6000_OPEN variable in raspian? On regular linux its configurable in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager, but on raspian this file does not exist
[15:20] <Eren97> Other question... Does it use resources without a display attached
[15:21] <shiftplusone> I don't think it's enabled by default
[15:21] <shiftplusone> raspi-config has all the noob stuff
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[15:25] <IT_Sean> raspbian does NOT start a GUI by default, unless you tell it to.
[15:26] <IT_Sean> you have to either do a 'startx' or set ot to start automatically in raspi-config.
[15:26] <evil_dan2wik> does it still start the display bits when no display is connected?
[15:27] <shiftplusone> display bits?
[15:27] <evil_dan2wik> yeah, like the terminal you get when you connect hdmi
[15:27] <evil_dan2wik> with the Pi logo and stuff
[15:27] <evil_dan2wik> does that still get loaded internally?
[15:27] <shiftplusone> yeah
[15:27] <IT_Sean> Yes, it does.
[15:27] <shiftplusone> but if you don't force on hdmi, that goes out of composite
[15:28] <therion23> quite a few of them even
[15:29] <Joe_knock> I currently want to build a server-like device that passes a live video feed via wifi to devices and can also pass a signal from the consumer devices that activates a certain feature on a device connected to the server. Should I use a raspberry Pi or would an arduino work too?
[15:30] <IT_Sean> wow... could that be any more vague
[15:30] <IT_Sean> ?
[15:31] <Joe_knock> IT_Sean: me?
[15:31] <IT_Sean> What exactly are you trying to do?
[15:31] <IT_Sean> 'cause, the Pi can do all of that, but... as for which can do it /better/, im not sure.
[15:31] <Joe_knock> I want to (primarily) pass a live video feed of activity outside my house via wifi.
[15:32] <evil_dan2wik> Is it possible to completely remove the graphics portion of the ram?
[15:32] <IT_Sean> You can do that. Raspicam + internal web server.
[15:32] <IT_Sean> evil_dan2wik: No.
[15:32] <evil_dan2wik> any reason why not?
[15:32] <IT_Sean> Besides the fact it won't let you?
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[15:32] <IT_Sean> i don't recall exactly... i believe the GPU is necessary for part of the boot process.
[15:32] <evil_dan2wik> I want to know why it won't let me.
[15:33] <Joe_knock> Then if I see some suspicious activity outside, I "click" a button on a web-page that is rendered on the local server and this button activates a "Red Light"
[15:33] <evil_dan2wik> I need literally another 3mb of ram
[15:33] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, is your gpu mem set to 16?
[15:33] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
[15:33] <IT_Sean> You could do that as well with some clever scripting, a wad of electronics, and one or more GPIO pins, i suppose.
[15:33] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, then you're probably after swap.
[15:34] <shiftplusone> or that ram compression thing
[15:34] <evil_dan2wik> I tried using swap but the server slows down lots.
[15:34] <Joe_knock> IT_Sean: Can I detach the raspicam from the pi board ?
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[15:34] <IT_Sean> the camera module is seperate to the Pi board, and would be connected via a ribbon cable.
[15:34] <Joe_knock> I mean, keep the cam connected to the pi via wiring instead of directly attached.
[15:34] <IT_Sean> the camera module is seperate to the Pi board, and would be connected via a ribbon cable.
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[15:37] <Joe_knock> Are there any big/popular forums for people using arduinos, raspberry pis and other electronic hacking devices? I couldn't find any.
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[15:38] <shiftplusone> raspberrypi.org, eevblog.com, edaboard.com ?
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[15:38] <Joe_knock> shiftplusone: Thanks, bookmarked them all.
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[15:40] <shiftplusone> the ##electronics channel here on freenode is a good place too
[15:40] <Joe_knock> Thanks
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[15:40] <Joe_knock> :)
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[15:53] <e7p> shiftplusone: now I have done it with a Lock, and I am kind of satisfied.
[15:55] <shiftplusone> kinky
[15:55] <IT_Sean> TMI.
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[15:55] <shiftplusone> but how did the python thing go?
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[15:56] <e7p> shiftplusone: If you would like to look over it: https://github.com/Endres/piboard/blob/master/menu.py lines 64 to 68 and 94 following are the interesting ones.
[15:57] <e7p> (my waitConfirmButton blocks until the right edge)
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[15:58] <shiftplusone> Nuh, I'll take your word for it (tad busy)
[15:58] <e7p> hm... there are still some bugs.
[15:58] <e7p> shiftplusone: no problem.
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[16:39] <therion23> interesting
[16:39] <therion23> clamav can scan for Android malware
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[16:39] <therion23> one could actually make an app store out of a pi
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[16:52] <Joe_knock> Can I detach a camera from an old nokia phone (6230) and use it with a Pi?
[16:55] <SpeedEvil> In general, no.
[16:56] <SpeedEvil> Can you, with a lot of deveopment - software and hardware, attach it to the pi - maybe.
[16:57] <therion23> kinda ironic that Samsung used to make displays for Nokia phones
[16:57] <therion23> seeing them take over the cellphone market afterwards
[16:57] <Joe_knock> THanks SpeedEvil. I was hoping to recycle old parts and make use of them.
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[17:17] <IT_Sean> In the end, the answer is going to be "Not without a lot of development work and a lot of time and money spent"
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[17:25] <SpeedEvil> well - 'lot' of money is likely to be less than a tenner if you have the other equipment
[17:26] <Sonny_Jim> Time is money though
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> Joe_knock, use google - you might find someone has already connected that display to an arduino, etc.
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[17:26] <gordonDrogon> some of them have SPI interfaces which makes it relatively easy, but you need to know the magic setup runes before you can start to poke pixels at it.
[17:27] * gordonDrogon re-reads and swaps display for camera. doh.
[17:29] <Joe_knock> Thanks gordonDrogon
[17:31] <chris_99> can anyon recomend a place on fleabay that sells rpi standoffs
[17:31] <IT_Sean> what are rpi standoffs?
[17:32] <chris_99> as in things to join multiple pis together via the 2 holes
[17:32] <IT_Sean> Ah.
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[17:39] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-Pcs-Male-to-Female-Screw-Brass-Pillars-Standoff-Spacer-M2x6mmx9mm-/121204370169?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item1c3857eaf9
[17:39] <SpeedEvil> probably too small
[17:39] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-Pcs-Male-Female-PCB-Thread-Brass-Pillars-Standoff-Spacers-M2x32mmx35mm-/121206318085?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item1c3875a405
[17:43] <chris_99> m2 is the screw size?
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[17:50] <chris_99> apparently it's m2.5 according to one site
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[17:59] <shiftplusone> Might be of interest to some folks http://www.righto.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-apple-is.html
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[18:04] <nerdboy> lots of parts, nothing obvious
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[18:05] <Sonny_Jim> Is this to link two Pis via the GPIO header?
[18:06] <nerdboy> no, just to stack boards
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[18:06] <nerdboy> most boards have corner holes plus maybe others
[18:07] <thebishop> has anyone tried Google Handouts on Pi now that it uses HTML5/WebRTC?
[18:07] <nerdboy> rpi is a little short on holes
[18:07] <thebishop> *Hangouts
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[19:44] <Eren97> is running a BitTorrent client on a rpi with an external hdd attached, efficient?
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[19:45] <Eren97> and is it worth using the rpi as dlna server with an ext hdd connected?
[19:45] <Eren97> as in, would it read/write fast enough?
[19:46] <ShorTie> just remember that both the nic and that hard drive will be going thru the same controller
[19:46] <Eren97> nic ?
[19:47] <ShorTie> network connection
[19:47] <Eren97> oh
[19:47] <Eren97> I use a wifi dongle
[19:47] <Sonny_Jim> Oh I've been thinking about setting up a DLNA server on the Pi
[19:47] <Eren97> might switch to lan in the future tho, what's better in this case anyway
[19:47] <ShorTie> and usb has a limited bandwidth
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[19:47] <Sonny_Jim> If you find a good one, I'd like to know about it
[19:48] <Eren97> Sonny_Jim: minidlna ?
[19:48] * Sonny_Jim has a look
[19:48] <Eren97> I couldn't properly set up my hdd for rpi because..i need a powered usb hub
[19:48] <ShorTie> does not matter, either way they both go thru the same controller
[19:48] <Eren97> but idk if it will even work out
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[19:48] <Eren97> ShorTie: so uuhm..any chance it'd play 1080p ? ^^
[19:48] <Eren97> *
[19:48] <Eren97> *transmit
[19:49] <Eren97> I heard of transcoding..wouldn't that help?
[19:50] <ShorTie> not sure, maybe to 1 thing, but if your downloading anything it most likely not be real good
[19:50] <thebishop> rpi is probably not powerful enough to do live video transcoding in software (on the CPU)
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[19:50] <thebishop> codecs that can be hw accelerated should be good
[19:52] <Eren97> mhhhh
[19:52] <Eren97> I won't watch 2 movies at once lol
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[19:53] <Eren97> also I won't download much either
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[19:56] <thebishop> Eren97, it's not about that, it's about dlna serving up a codec that your streaming client supports
[19:56] <thebishop> Eren97, if the file you downloaded isn't supported by the client, the server has to transcode, and that's where rpi might struggle
[19:56] <Eren97> smart tv hmmm
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[19:58] <thebishop> take a look at Mediatomb if you haven't already, it's the best FOSS dlna server i've found
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[20:01] <Eren97> thebishop: is that debian based?
[20:01] <Eren97> or what is it anyway
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[20:01] <thebishop> Eren97, it's just a software service. you should be able to apt-get install it easily on rasbian
[20:01] <Eren97> ah
[20:01] <Eren97> better than minidlna?
[20:01] <thebishop> http://sandspaceship.blogspot.com/2013/09/torrent-and-dlna-station-with-raspberry.html
[20:02] <Eren97> that's one huge hdd
[20:02] <thebishop> Eren97, mediatomb has a web UI which sounds nice for your purposes
[20:02] <thebishop> minidlna is configured entirely via config files
[20:02] <Eren97> thebishop: which purposes u mean?
[20:02] <thebishop> Eren97, headless rpi dlna server
[20:02] <thebishop> right?
[20:02] <Eren97> ya
[20:03] <Eren97> with a torrent client maybe
[20:03] <thebishop> so web-based config sounds right up your alley
[20:03] <Eren97> as I dont want to keep my pc running anymore
[20:03] <thebishop> Eren97, another thing i've seen recently, that might not work on rpi yet
[20:03] <Eren97> tbh I SSH into it anyway, as I'm new to linux and play around etc
[20:03] <thebishop> is called OpenMediaVault
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[20:04] <Eren97> lol why does this guy on sandspaceship install SSH on raspbian :x
[20:06] <Eren97> thebishop: thx for the site,I'll definitely bookmark this
[20:06] <thebishop> yeah, if that gets ported to rpi, it'll be handy
[20:07] <Eren97> I meant the sandspaceship blog link
[20:07] <thebishop> oh right ok
[20:07] <Eren97> btw thebishop is it a good idea to download directly to an external hdd?
[20:07] <thebishop> Eren97, download torrents to external?
[20:07] <Eren97> what about data loss on electricity cut?
[20:07] <Eren97> thebishop: ya
[20:08] <thebishop> Eren97, don't think it's worse than an internal hdd
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[20:09] <thebishop> it's usb2.0 which is a little suck for 1080p vid
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[20:09] <thebishop> but i wouldn't worry much about data loss
[20:10] <Eren97> oh yeah btw
[20:10] <Eren97> is usb 3.0 worth it for rpi
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[20:12] <ShorTie> your gonna be plugging it into a usb 2 connection you know
[20:13] <Eren97> ik
[20:13] <Eren97> is that a no
[20:14] <IT_Sean> well, it'll run at USB2 speeds.
[20:14] <IT_Sean> so....
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[20:19] <thebishop> IT_Sean, is right
[20:19] <IT_Sean> thank you, thebishop... But, i already know I am right. :p
[20:19] <thebishop> IT_Sean, quit while you're ahead, friend-o
[20:20] <IT_Sean> Esqueeze me?
[20:20] <thebishop> hahaha
[20:20] <Eren97> mhh
[20:21] <Eren97> SSD wont have any effect either then I guess
[20:21] <thebishop> Eren97, yea, it'll help spin-up time
[20:21] <thebishop> doesn't matter so much for the kind of media you're streaming though
[20:21] <IT_Sean> But, really, your bottleneck will always be USB
[20:21] <Eren97> and it's rather expensive :D
[20:21] <thebishop> would be better for loading/running apps over usb
[20:22] <IT_Sean> And remember that USB and ethernet share bandwidth, as the ethernet port is really a USB->Ethernet adapter, hung off the same hub as the 2 USB ports.
[20:22] <thebishop> i didn't read that, interesting
[20:22] <IT_Sean> So, if you are using both that the same time... ... ... ...
[20:22] <thebishop> 1080p looking less and less feasible
[20:23] <IT_Sean> ?
[20:23] <IT_Sean> the Pi is totes capable of 1080p playback
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[20:23] <thebishop> seeking over usb2, and streaming over ethernet via dlna
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[20:23] <IT_Sean> oh.
[20:23] <IT_Sean> nvm,t.
[20:23] <thebishop> over 480 Mbit shared
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[20:27] <Eren97> my wifi dongle is 150mb/s
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[20:28] <Eren97> so I guess it'd be fine
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[20:30] <thebishop> Eren97, your wifi dongle is usb2 as well, right?
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[20:30] <thebishop> Eren97, the point is anything going in or out of those usb ports is limited by the spec (480Mb/s)
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[20:32] <Eren97> I got it
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[20:32] <IT_Sean> remember that that 480mb/s is shared across both USB ports and the ethernet conection
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[20:33] <Eren97> I got B+
[20:33] <Eren97> B+ has 4 USB ports and ethernet
[20:35] <IT_Sean> still basically the same deal
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[20:43] <plugwash> Eren97, all of which go through a USB hub to a single USB2 port on the SOC
[20:44] <IT_Sean> ^
[20:44] <Sonny_Jim> Does the SD slot use the same bus?
[20:45] <plugwash> no
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[20:45] <IT_Sean> no
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[20:53] <Eren97> so ugh
[20:53] <Eren97> it's all 480mb/s shared=?
[20:53] <Sonny_Jim> Yup
[20:53] <Eren97> wow
[20:53] <Sonny_Jim> What did you expect for $35?
[20:55] <Sonny_Jim> Sorry, that seems to be my default answer when anyone complains about the Pi performance
[20:55] <Sonny_Jim> At least you get a load of GPIO to play with :-)
[20:56] * plugwash doubts it will actually reach 480 megabits per second, that's the theoretical limit for USB2, even the better implementations don't seem to reach that in practice
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[20:56] <plugwash> and i'd hardly describe the USB2 on the Pi as one of the better implementations
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[21:00] <Eren97> I didn't complain
[21:00] <Eren97> and idk what to do with the gpio as of now
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[21:01] <Sonny_Jim> Make an LED blink and go from there
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[21:10] <Eren97> Sonny_Jim: ugh
[21:10] <Eren97> what do u use to connect stuff to gpio anyway xD
[21:10] <Eren97> do u solder it? o.O
[21:11] <ShorTie> i use an old floppy cable
[21:12] <Eren97> oh well
[21:12] <Eren97> I'll look into it..but gon watch a movie now, thx !
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[21:13] <Sonny_Jim> Eren97: http://www.instructables.com/id/Blinking-LED-with-Raspberry-Pi-1/
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[21:15] <Eren97> ya saw it Sonny_Jim ^^
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[21:15] <Eren97> but gotta go now
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[21:21] <Tinkerton> Hi folks. I'm trying to download something with wget on my Pi, however its throwing up an error for the certificate of the site (gist.githubusercontent.com). Can anyone help me work out how to force it to ignore that?
[21:22] <Sonny_Jim> What's the actual error message?
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[21:22] <Tinkerton> "ERROR: The certificate of 'gist.githubusercontent.com' is not trusted
[21:23] <Tinkerton> ERROR: The certificate of 'gist.githubusercontent.com' hasn't got a known issuer."
[21:23] <pksato> Tinkerton: use option --no-check-certificate
[21:23] <Sonny_Jim> http://blog.redfern.me/skipping-certificate-checks-with-wget/
[21:23] <pksato> if you trust on the site
[21:23] <Sonny_Jim> Or that ;-)
[21:24] <Tinkerton> pksato: I trust the site, it's Adafruit
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[21:27] <Tinkerton> That's done it, cheers
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[21:34] <Tinkerton> hmm
[21:34] <Tinkerton> Anyone here used an adafruit 2.8" touchscreen with their Pi?
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[22:47] <jaggz> yay!
[22:47] <jaggz> hmm.. this rss feed http://feeds.feedburner.com/tedtalksHD , with my browser, shows these "media enclosure" links to the videos... nrss doesn't seem to give me access to anything like that (to download the videos on the rpi)
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[23:10] <Tinkerton> Hi folks. What's the best music player program for raspbian?
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[23:17] <jaggz> the BEST
[23:17] <jaggz> cat file.mp3 > /dev/audio
[23:18] <Tinkerton> Should've expected an answer like that :P
[23:18] <jaggz> that's a good balance between convenience and low-system resources
[23:18] <jaggz> it also plays the music faster than all other players
[23:18] <jaggz> omxplayer I like because it's cli
[23:19] <Tinkerton> I don't want a CLI player
[23:19] <Tinkerton> I'm after something with a clear and simple gui
[23:20] <jaggz> do people still use amarok?
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[23:28] <therion23> i used to use audacious .. totally winamp-looking player
[23:29] <therion23> think it is even skin compatible
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[23:32] <Tinkerton> hmm, interesting
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[23:34] <therion23> it hardly gets more clean and simple than that
[23:35] <Tinkerton> cheers
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[23:42] <AlmtyBob> man I really shouldn't try to learn C++ on the Pi. The further I get into the book the longer the compiling takes.
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[23:45] <Encrypt> AlmtyBob, Did you start with C?
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[23:46] <AlmtyBob> eh, not really. I messed with some C and some C++ 20 years ago or so but haven't used them much at all since then
[23:46] <Encrypt> Ok :)
[23:46] <AlmtyBob> reading Accelerated C++. Great book; not a single wasted word
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[23:53] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[23:53] <Sonny_Jim> Strings and pointers in C are making my brain huty
[23:53] <Sonny_Jim> *hurt
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