#raspberrypi IRC Log

Index

IRC Log for 2014-09-30

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

[0:01] * utack (~utack@mnch-5d875916.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:01] * girafe (~girafe@AGrenoble-651-1-484-51.w90-42.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[0:03] * Moshin (~bangboom@udp000088uds.hawaiiantel.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:09] * davor (~davor@unaffiliated/davor) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[0:11] * qrf (~kaafir@unaffiliated/yw) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:12] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[0:14] * davor (~davor@unaffiliated/davor) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:17] * taza (~taza@unaffiliated/taza) Quit ()
[0:17] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[0:19] * utack (~utack@mnch-5d875916.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[0:20] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:20] * Moshin (~bangboom@udp000088uds.hawaiiantel.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[0:21] * pumphaus (~pumphaus@kde/developer/arnorehn) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[0:22] * teepee (~teepee@gateway/tor-sasl/teepee) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[0:22] <qrf> Hmm are those passive heatsinks necessary?
[0:22] <qrf> Or are those just for particular use cases?
[0:22] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@207-170-205-178.static.twtelecom.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:23] <qrf> My use case has only little CPU/memory usage, not much going on
[0:23] <qrf> So I was hoping I wouldn't need them
[0:23] <Sonny_Jim> TBH I can think of very little use cases that would require them
[0:23] <qrf> Alright
[0:25] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@207-170-205-178.static.twtelecom.net) Quit (Client Quit)
[0:25] <qrf> Meh I don't know what SD card to get
[0:25] * Sir_Pony (~boooooo@2606:a000:b484:8500:a4d9:ad0a:435:1153) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:26] <qrf> Err microSD*
[0:26] <Sonny_Jim> I think the consensus is basically any branded >4GB card
[0:28] * pumphaus (~pumphaus@kde/developer/arnorehn) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:28] * Syliss (~Home2@dpncorp1.digitalpath.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[0:28] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:29] * gadgetoid (~gadgetoid@customers.shef1.resi.ask4.co.uk) Quit (Quit: gadgetoid)
[0:30] * Wryness (~Wryness@gateway/tor-sasl/lunario) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:31] * utack (~utack@mnch-5d875916.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:31] * HarryMudd (~otto@2601:6:5400:c43:ba27:ebff:fe33:3bd2) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:32] * MidnighToker (~Toker@unaffiliated/midnightoker) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:32] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[0:33] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@207-170-205-178.static.twtelecom.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:36] * ponA (~Miranda@HSI-KBW-134-3-94-90.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:37] <Wryness> has anybody tried connecting a psp display to a raspberry pi?
[0:38] * bhez (~bhez@unaffiliated/drivelights) Quit (Quit: leaving)
[0:39] * chod (~chod@toy-town.demon.co.uk) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[0:41] <qrf> Raspberry Pi B+, some case for B+, SanDisk Ultra microSDHC 16GB Class 10, Rydges 2000 mAh power supply for B+
[0:41] <qrf> Did I miss something fundamental?
[0:41] * Syliss (~Home2@dpncorp1.digitalpath.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:41] <qrf> Oh, something I'm not entirely sure about, can I even power a condenser mic and an HSDPA USB stick with this?
[0:41] <qrf> I'm not entirely sure how much those devices use hmm
[0:41] * dj_pi (~dj@c-107-5-25-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:42] <qrf> I read USB condenser mics are around 0.1 - 1 W
[0:43] <qrf> 2A/5V it says hmm
[0:45] <Sonny_Jim> A USB condenser mic sounds eww
[0:45] <qrf> Why :p
[0:45] <Sonny_Jim> What's wrong with a normal dynamic one?
[0:45] <qrf> Dynamic mics are far more crude and don't pick up as much
[0:45] * kd7jwc (~shantorn@71-222-35-72.ptld.qwest.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:46] * Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[0:46] <qrf> This is just for this device btw
[0:46] * ponA (~Miranda@HSI-KBW-134-3-94-90.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) Quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org)
[0:46] <qrf> I use a regular XLR condenser mic for regular vocal recordings
[0:46] <qrf> And my drum kit is 7 condenser mics, 1 dynamic mic for the kick
[0:46] <Sonny_Jim> sheesh
[0:46] <qrf> Huh?
[0:48] <Sonny_Jim> You plan to record using the Pi?
[0:48] <flexus> isnt xlr always 24-48v phantom power?
[0:48] <qrf> flexus no, but you do require that for condenser mics
[0:48] <qrf> I have 48 V on all 8 when recording
[0:48] <qrf> "The USB ports of the Pi seem to struggle to provide the power for a 3g dongle, so a powered USB hub is necessary."
[0:48] <qrf> Sonny_Jim yes, but it's for surveillance, not for music
[0:49] <Sonny_Jim> I think there's probably better, more discreet solutions
[0:49] * bhez (~bhez@unaffiliated/drivelights) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:49] <qrf> It's for a rehearsal room/studio, I want to log the volume over time
[0:49] <flexus> you need to preamplify it
[0:49] <qrf> And check it online
[0:49] <qrf> flexus I'm not connecting an XLR mic to a Raspberry Pi
[0:49] <qrf> Just a USB condenser mic
[0:49] <flexus> you build a mic array
[0:50] <flexus> recording time and delay
[0:50] <qrf> The Raspberry mic is just for checking if the room or one of the other rooms is currently being used by other people
[0:50] <qrf> Which can prevent me from recording stuff
[0:51] <qrf> So I want to check that online before I go to the place
[0:51] <qrf> Sometimes they're busy for 4-8 hours and they don't communicate this to anybody
[0:51] <flexus> so you need some channels
[0:51] <qrf> I'm not going to do XLR<->Raspberry anything :P stop
[0:52] <qrf> http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-as-a-3g-Huawei-E303-wireless-Edima/ damn
[0:52] <qrf> Not enough power it seems
[0:52] <qrf> I do have one spare USB2 hub
[0:52] <qrf> Which has a power supply of its own
[0:53] <qrf> Maybe I'd be better off using a regular Atom for this
[0:55] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:55] <qrf> More expensive, though, hm
[0:56] * Kirito (~Kirito@pdpc/supporter/student/kirito) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:58] * kij__ (kij__@c-76-23-251-139.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:59] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[0:59] * SpicyShibe (~DB@2601:6:4a80:5d6::b1c) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[1:01] <qrf> http://wiki.stocksy.co.uk/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_Internet_in_a_box#USB_Power hmm
[1:01] * mumixam (~m@unaffiliated/mumixam) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:01] * Qatz (~DB@2601:6:4a80:5d6::90) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:03] * jelatta_away (~jelatta@c-75-69-35-115.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:03] * jelatta_away is now known as jelatta
[1:03] * zz_Kymru (Elite8681@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xejetxeneqjpofkz) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[1:05] * Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-63-145.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Quit: Quitte)
[1:05] * darkbasic_ (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:06] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[1:10] * gr0w (gr0w@unaffiliated/gr0w) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:12] * Tachyon` is now known as Tach[Zzz]
[1:28] * Eren97 (Eren97@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-gacpvfabontdtexx) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[1:29] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:29] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:33] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[1:34] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@207-170-205-178.static.twtelecom.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[1:41] * kd7jwc (~shantorn@71-222-35-72.ptld.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[1:44] * flexus (~user@chello062178086010.1.12.vie.surfer.at) Quit (Quit: quit)
[1:44] * Albori (~Albori@67-43-242-246.fidnet.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:47] * oblomov (~oblomov@unaffiliated/oblomov) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[1:55] * applegekko (~applegekk@gateway/tor-sasl/applegekko) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[2:03] * torspark (~chris@cpe-72-182-50-9.austin.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[2:03] * utack (~utack@mnch-5d875916.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[2:09] * baldengineer (~cmiyc@c-98-211-250-136.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:10] * harish (~harish@175.156.211.117) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[2:17] * MidnighToker (~Toker@unaffiliated/midnightoker) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[2:25] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[2:29] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:30] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:33] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[2:33] * Wryness (~Wryness@gateway/tor-sasl/lunario) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[2:34] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[2:36] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:37] * pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:39] * amikiri (~amikiri@unaffiliated/amikiri) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:41] * averagecase (~anon@cl-6544.cgn-01.de.sixxs.net) Quit (Quit: Verlassend)
[2:43] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:45] * franpoli (~pi@c83-251-164-69.bredband.comhem.se) Quit (Quit: leaving)
[2:46] * gr0w (gr0w@unaffiliated/gr0w) has left #raspberrypi
[2:46] * red-dragon (~red-drago@gateway/tor-sasl/red-dragon) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:48] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[2:48] * Haxxa (~Harrison@120.149.49.246) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
[2:49] <red-dragon> hi
[2:50] <[Saint]> na!
[2:53] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[2:54] * Bozza_ (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:57] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[2:57] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[2:57] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:59] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:59] * Willchill (~Willchill@CPE-124-180-108-76.lns10.lon.bigpond.net.au) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:03] * jlf` (~user@pdpc/supporter/active/jlf) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[3:03] * outofbounds (~outofboun@gateway/tor-sasl/outofbounds) Quit ()
[3:05] * Haxxa (~Harrison@120.149.49.246) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:07] * Guegs (~Guegs___@207-47-246-154.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:08] * dj_pi (~dj@c-107-5-25-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[3:10] * ctyler (~chris@142.204.133.11) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:10] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit ()
[3:11] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:16] * Sonny_Jim (~pi@host31-51-111-223.range31-51.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[3:16] * paskl (~paskl@vps713.fra16-inx10.webhod.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[3:17] * jlf` (~user@pdpc/supporter/active/jlf) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:19] * Gosy (53fae9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.250.233.230) Quit (Quit: Page closed)
[3:23] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[3:24] * gbaman (~gbaman@89.185.154.123) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[3:24] * Guegs (~Guegs___@207-47-246-154.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[3:28] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:30] * harish (harish@nat/redhat/x-bdxdrwjohxywupva) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:32] * RaptorJesus (~RaptorJes@gateway/tor-sasl/raptorjesus) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:34] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[3:37] * Syliss (~Home2@dpncorp1.digitalpath.net) Quit (Quit: Syliss)
[3:38] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:38] * Warrior-kk (~Warrior@218.240.47.248) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:39] * Warrior-kk (~Warrior@218.240.47.248) Quit (Client Quit)
[3:40] * Warrior-kk (~Warrior@218.240.47.248) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:41] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:46] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[3:48] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:48] * Noldorin (~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin) Quit (Quit: -)
[3:50] * bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@123.Red-83-55-237.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[3:51] * huza (~My@221.2.140.186) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:52] * intothev01d (~intothev0@unaffiliated/intothev01d) Quit ()
[3:54] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[3:54] * darkbasic_ (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[3:55] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:56] * mumixam (~m@unaffiliated/mumixam) Quit (Quit: mumixam)
[3:56] * mumixam (~m@unaffiliated/mumixam) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:58] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:01] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[4:04] * de_henne (~quassel@g226127090.adsl.alicedsl.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[4:05] * DrBrownBear (~DrBrownbe@99-18-20-28.lightspeed.rkwdmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:06] * iceCalt_ (~iceCalt@p5DDCECB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[4:09] * harish (harish@nat/redhat/x-bdxdrwjohxywupva) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[4:11] * kd7jwc (~shantorn@71-222-35-72.ptld.qwest.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:13] * torchic____ (~soemgirl@gateway/tor-sasl/soem-girl) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[4:16] * torchic (~soemgirl@gateway/tor-sasl/soem-girl) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:16] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[4:16] * tahoemph (~tahoemph@172.2.16.223) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:20] * DimeBag (~llorllale@190.166.118.103) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[4:20] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:21] * skyroveRR (~skyroveRR@unaffiliated/skyroverr) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:22] <skyroveRR> inspl
[4:22] <skyroveRR> oops.
[4:22] * DrBrownBear (~DrBrownbe@99-18-20-28.lightspeed.rkwdmi.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[4:24] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[4:24] * spybert (~spybert@c-50-173-18-125.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:25] * Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:25] * baldengineer (~cmiyc@c-98-211-250-136.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: baldengineer)
[4:26] * harish (harish@nat/redhat/x-rswlmtezorfodznu) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:26] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[4:26] * lost_soul (~noymfb@cpe-67-246-98-246.twcny.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[4:26] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:27] * lost_soul (~noymfb@cpe-67-246-98-246.twcny.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:27] * lost_soul (~noymfb@cpe-67-246-98-246.twcny.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[4:28] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: No route to host)
[4:28] * tahoemph (~tahoemph@172.2.16.223) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[4:28] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:28] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:29] * Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) Quit (Client Quit)
[4:31] * Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:32] * amikiri (~amikiri@unaffiliated/amikiri) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[4:32] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:33] * tahoemph (~tahoemph@172-2-16-223.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:34] * Warrior-kk (~Warrior@218.240.47.248) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[4:34] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Read error: No route to host)
[4:35] * Kirito (~Kirito@pdpc/supporter/student/kirito) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[4:35] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:36] * spybert (~spybert@c-50-173-18-125.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[4:41] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[4:41] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[4:42] * pklaus (~pklaus@p20030051451D810002C008FFFE88220F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[4:45] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:45] * bigx (~bigx@cam44-2-82-235-243-114.fbx.proxad.net) Quit (Quit: Quitte)
[4:49] * pklaus (~pklaus@p20030051451CAC0002C008FFFE88220F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:52] * Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
[4:53] <[Saint]> lol
[4:56] <[Saint]> ~/Downloads/Transmission/Completed/Untagged - 140GB, ~16,000 files.
[4:56] <[Saint]> That's only 8 days of accumulation.
[4:58] <[Saint]> I very rarely actually download any audio myself these days, I have been extracting the audio files from my client's NAS/cloud storage instead to broaden my horizons.
[4:58] * proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-154.revip5.asianet.co.th) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[4:59] <[Saint]> Does anyone have an idea about how I might be able to achieve home-brew deduplication?
[4:59] <[Saint]> Looking at it now, with all the customer media, there's at least 120GB of avoidable duplication.
[5:02] <[Saint]> They appear to be sharing amongst themselves.
[5:03] * spybert (~spybert@c-50-173-18-125.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:04] <[Saint]> And then there's the very annoying cases where deduplication wouldn't actually work.
[5:04] * otome (~otome@178.73.210.251) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[5:05] * JohnnyBitcoin (~johnny@ool-4352401e.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:05] <[Saint]> Like the approximately 40GB of MP3s with identical audio signatures but slightly different metadata due to the customer(s) apparently (re)tagging the media.
[5:05] * [Saint] sighs
[5:05] * The_Woodsman (~The_Woods@98.210.76.217) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:08] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[5:10] * skyroveRR (~skyroveRR@unaffiliated/skyroverr) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[5:10] * skyroveRR (~skyroveRR@unaffiliated/skyroverr) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:10] * huza (~My@221.2.140.186) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8)
[5:12] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:14] <e^ipi> do what zfs does, deduplicate on the block not the file
[5:16] <[Saint]> I also need to link the files I remove, so that $customer doesn't lose any content.
[5:16] <e^ipi> you could ultimately just use zfs
[5:16] <e^ipi> it exists for linux now, but freebsd & illumos are first-class
[5:17] * [Saint] does not fancy rebuilding an array this large unless he really needs to
[5:17] <[Saint]> The real asshole is de-duping by audio signature.
[5:17] <[Saint]> I suspect I'll have to write my own magic for that.
[5:18] <e^ipi> not magic, just FFT
[5:19] * Kirito (~Kirito@pdpc/supporter/student/kirito) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:21] <e^ipi> get really sloppy with your encoding you can figure out if a song is the same across all sorts of bitrates and stuff.
[5:21] <e^ipi> sloppier still you’ll dedup away the covers ;)
[5:21] <[Saint]> Hahaha
[5:24] * pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) Quit (Quit: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair)
[5:27] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[5:27] * mythos (~mythos@unaffiliated/mythos) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[5:31] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:34] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:37] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[5:38] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[5:39] * abnormal (~abnormal@163.sub-70-209-129.myvzw.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:40] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[5:41] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:43] * mythos (~mythos@unaffiliated/mythos) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:43] <The_Woodsman> does anyone know of any good guides for hooking the raspberry pi up such that it can be used as a switch for devices that are plugged into normal 120v AC power?
[5:44] <e^ipi> yeah, just buy a 120v relay board
[5:44] <e^ipi> they look like this: https://chivalrytimberz.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/612wbly1ucl-_sl1500_.jpg
[5:45] <The_Woodsman> i'll check that out, thanks -1
[5:45] <e^ipi> don’t electrocute yourself.
[5:45] <The_Woodsman> haha i will be very careful about that too
[5:46] * kij__ (kij__@c-76-23-251-139.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[5:46] * plugwash (~plugwash@97e5bfdf.skybroadband.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[5:46] <e^ipi> here’s a guide: http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/18908/not-sure-how-to-wire-my-5vdc-to-120vac-arduino-relay-board
[5:46] <e^ipi> i have that same board
[5:46] <e^ipi> looks a little different
[5:47] <e^ipi> same principle
[5:47] <[Saint]> FWIW - even if you do electrocute yourself - 120VAC is nothing.
[5:47] <[Saint]> Just a wee tickle.
[5:47] <e^ipi> nevermind, that’s a crap stack exchange
[5:48] <e^ipi> either way, relay board.
[5:48] <[Saint]> EVen 220~240VAC will just tickle you up a little.
[5:48] <abnormal> or you can buy the piface daughter board
[5:49] <[Saint]> Ummmm....no.
[5:49] <e^ipi> or you can just buy the SSR standalone
[5:49] <[Saint]> PiFace will not handle switching at those loads.
[5:49] <[Saint]> A relay that will, however, will cost you like $3
[5:50] <abnormal> true but the piface can control the relay via it's coil input
[5:50] <[Saint]> GPIO can control the relay too.
[5:50] <e^ipi> but… the relay can be controlled by itself, the relay boards are $20 for 8 channels, you plug it in to the gpio
[5:51] <[Saint]> PiFace is entirely irrelevant here.
[5:51] <[Saint]> Completely surplus to requirement.
[5:51] <abnormal> ok.
[5:51] * EastLight (n@2.222.89.3) Quit ()
[5:51] <[Saint]> But...thanks for the input.
[5:52] <[Saint]> Hahahahahaha!
[5:52] * jlf` is now known as jlf
[5:52] <[Saint]> re: PiFace:
[5:52] <[Saint]> "*Relays can be used to switch voltages up to 20V (Max) or currents up to 5A (Max)"
[5:52] <[Saint]> ...yeah, that would've ended very badly.
[5:52] <[Saint]> Or, very amusingly, depending on your world view.
[5:53] <[Saint]> Either way, you're letting the genie out.
[5:53] <steve_rox> the ones i have are supposed to be rated 240v
[5:53] <[Saint]> I knew the PiFace couldn;t switch at those loads.
[5:53] <steve_rox> 10amp max i think
[5:53] <abnormal> no you don't get the point... hook the 120v relay coil to the piface relay
[5:53] <[Saint]> But I didn't know it was /that/ low.
[5:53] <e^ipi> abnormal: but… why even have the piface then?
[5:54] <e^ipi> you can hook the relays right up to gpio
[5:54] <[Saint]> A relay, to, trigger a relay?
[5:54] <[Saint]> ...right.
[5:54] <[Saint]> That makes perfect sense.
[5:54] <abnormal> yes
[5:54] <abnormal> safer that way
[5:55] * [Saint] should add (because apparently that wasn't obvious) that he was being completely sarcastic and that's a rather nuts idea.
[5:55] <[Saint]> And no, its not any safer at all.
[5:55] <[Saint]> It adds unnecessary complication to provide zero additional functionality.
[5:55] * Sur-Real (~Surreal@li662-147.members.linode.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[5:55] * frauxsh_ (~pi@gateway/tor-sasl/frauxsh) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:56] <The_Woodsman> i appreciate the discussion but now i'm a little more confused, i think - is the consensus that a relay is still a reasonable way to do it
[5:56] <[Saint]> The_Woodsman: correct.
[5:56] <The_Woodsman> [Saint]: alright, thanks
[5:56] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:56] <[Saint]> Just a run of the mill single channel 120~240VAC rated relay.
[5:57] <[Saint]> Or, if you want to switch multiple channels, you can get 2, 4, 8, 12, 24...etc channel relay boards.
[5:57] <steve_rox> my only consern is if you run high current thu the relay can the pcb tollrate it even if the relay is rated 240@10amp
[5:57] <[Saint]> It'll run somewhere in the vicinity of $3 shipped for a single channel relay, to around $30 for a 24 channel relay board.
[5:58] <The_Woodsman> [Saint]: excellent, thanks for the information
[5:58] <e^ipi> if you buy the relay itself, it’ll be cheaper but harder to hook up. buy a single channel board it’s already got the diode & resistor, you hook the pins up to GPIO.
[5:58] <e^ipi> just buy the board...
[5:58] * owen_ (~owen@180.200.145.75) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:58] <[Saint]> Right. Perhaps I should've been more clear in that regard.
[5:58] <abnormal> ty [Saint]
[5:59] <[Saint]> While you can build your own circuit, these relay boards are absurdly cheap.
[5:59] * frauxsh (~pi@gateway/tor-sasl/frauxsh) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[5:59] <[Saint]> Just make sure you get one that's using the right logic level, though in my experience the 5V ones will still pull high on 3.3V
[6:00] <[Saint]> It is possible that others may not.
[6:01] <abnormal> that's why I suggested the piface, it's safer and it cane operate industrial relays due to low current and voltage feeding their coils.
[6:02] <[Saint]> I would argue that its not any safer at all personally.
[6:02] <[Saint]> Just added complexity for zero gain.
[6:02] <abnormal> ok then I will buy a wireless one...
[6:03] * RaptorJesus (~RaptorJes@gateway/tor-sasl/raptorjesus) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[6:03] <steve_rox> ill never forget that jpg image of a rpi when someone wired 240v directly into it
[6:04] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[6:04] <abnormal> lol
[6:04] * RaptorJesus (~RaptorJes@gateway/tor-sasl/raptorjesus) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:04] <[Saint]> Bwahahahahaha.
[6:04] <steve_rox> i dont have it saved to hand
[6:04] <steve_rox> but it was completly fryed to hell
[6:04] <[Saint]> I bet all the traces lit up like nichrome.
[6:04] <abnormal> must have worked wonderfully...
[6:04] <[Saint]> For like...0.1s
[6:04] <steve_rox> there was no component on it worth salvageing or could potentially function again
[6:04] <[Saint]> Before the traces exploded into molten copper.
[6:04] <e^ipi> frankly man, the raspi’s themselves are only $30
[6:05] <[Saint]> Yeah - they're not worth saving at the best of times.
[6:05] <e^ipi> so the vanishingly small possibility you burn one out isn’t really that big a deal
[6:05] <steve_rox> im sure someone here has a link to it
[6:05] <[Saint]> e^ipi: I agree entirely, but, for some people, its more of a principle thing.
[6:06] <abnormal> ask Lost_soul
[6:06] <[Saint]> I threw out several of the buggers because of their hilariously dodgy sd slots.
[6:06] <abnormal> he prolly seen it
[6:06] <[Saint]> I replaced one, and then thought...nuts to that, its $30
[6:06] <[Saint]> time+effort-expense, etc.
[6:06] <steve_rox> i cant find the image on google image search
[6:07] * kd7jwc (~shantorn@71-222-35-72.ptld.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[6:07] * Sur-Real (~Surreal@197.87.75.196) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:08] <steve_rox> its a amazing pic if you can find it
[6:08] <abnormal> keep looking
[6:08] <steve_rox> im too tired for mass searching :-P
[6:09] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:10] <abnormal> just key in the simple words and it will pop up
[6:10] <steve_rox> tryed it
[6:11] <[Saint]> I...yeah...right abnormal.
[6:11] <[Saint]> If its so easy, do then show us the picture you found.
[6:11] <[Saint]> I'll wait.
[6:11] * JohnnyBitcoin (~johnny@ool-4352401e.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[6:11] <steve_rox> its 5am , i need sleep :-P
[6:11] <abnormal> ok nite..
[6:11] <steve_rox> if i find it again ill link it
[6:14] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[6:14] * mike_t (~mike@pluto.dd.vaz.ru) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:17] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@66.130.12.167) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[6:18] <abnormal> must have been a You Tube vid...
[6:19] <steve_rox> bong image search gives nothing eather
[6:19] <[Saint]> I...
[6:20] <[Saint]> Because its *so* easy to mix up a .jpg and a bloody YouTube video...right.
[6:20] <[Saint]> I'm /totally/ sure steve_rox is that incompetant.
[6:20] <[Saint]> Yup yup yup.
[6:20] <[Saint]> (note: again with the sarcasm)
[6:21] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:21] <steve_rox> hmm
[6:21] <steve_rox> its a jpg i know that for sure
[6:22] <[Saint]> If it was just hosted on imgur et al, you'll never find it this way.
[6:22] <[Saint]> There's no keywords associated with it in order to form a search.
[6:22] * kamdard (~kamdard@pool-173-57-39-202.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[6:23] <[Saint]> Google doesn't know what its a picture of unless someone tells it explicitely, or it can attampt to discern this from the host.
[6:23] <[Saint]> Otherwise, keywords will get you exactly nowhere here.
[6:23] <[Saint]> I thought that would've been reasonably obvious, but, apparently not.
[6:23] <steve_rox> probly a copy of it on my old server
[6:24] <[Saint]> Don't go out of your way, but, if you do find it, I'd love to see it.
[6:24] <steve_rox> the servers main hdd was starting to fail the last time i tryed it
[6:24] <steve_rox> but if i get the motivation ill give it a go
[6:25] <abnormal> ok so long.... [Saint]
[6:25] * abnormal (~abnormal@163.sub-70-209-129.myvzw.com) has left #raspberrypi
[6:25] <[Saint]> o_o
[6:25] <steve_rox> what a abnormal individual
[6:25] <[Saint]> Odd little fellow.
[6:25] <[Saint]> heh.
[6:25] <steve_rox> ;-)
[6:29] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[6:32] * [SLB] (~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[6:32] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:32] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:33] * [SLB] (~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:34] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:38] * neutrino (~neutrino@unaffiliated/electron/x-8286743) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:39] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[6:42] * harish (harish@nat/redhat/x-rswlmtezorfodznu) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[6:47] * desikitteh{HH}[t is now known as desikitteh{HH}
[6:49] * cave (~cave@gateway/tor-sasl/cave) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[6:55] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[6:55] * harish (harish@nat/redhat/x-tcnbxzdfxrqfggvu) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:58] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[6:59] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:00] * llorllale (~llorllale@190.166.118.103) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:02] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:10] * Willchill (~Willchill@CPE-124-180-108-76.lns10.lon.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[7:15] * amigojapan (~amigojapa@c119045.net21845.cablenet.ne.jp) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:17] * Hello71 (~Hello71@wikipedia/Hello71) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[7:23] * undata (~undata@gateway/tor-sasl/undata) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:23] <undata> I'm trying to connect a USB 3G modem to my pi, the freedompop bolt.
[7:23] * Hello71 (~Hello71@wikipedia/Hello71) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:23] <undata> When I connect it, it seems as though eth0 goes down. If I ifup eth0, I can get into my pi again.
[7:24] <undata> Why would connecting a second network device cause eth0 to stop working?
[7:24] <undata> I'm on raspbian
[7:25] <amigojapan> undata: it could be a power problem, you may need to use a powered USB hub
[7:25] <undata> amigojapan: that would kill the internal ethernet?
[7:26] <steve_rox> is 3g relitively easy on rpi?
[7:27] <undata> steve_rox: I've had the same modem work with it just fine
[7:27] <undata> it's just this particular pi that isn't working
[7:27] <undata> weird
[7:27] <steve_rox> i dont think i have 3g coverage in my area :-/
[7:27] * kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:27] <steve_rox> perhaps its a firmware/kernal/os/version issue
[7:28] <amigojapan> undata: I dont know, just an idea
[7:29] * Hello71 (~Hello71@wikipedia/Hello71) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[7:29] <steve_rox> if only we could get skype on the rpi maybe id be more interested in makeing it mobile
[7:30] * RaptorJesus (~RaptorJes@gateway/tor-sasl/raptorjesus) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[7:33] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[7:34] * Hello71 (~Hello71@wikipedia/Hello71) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:34] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:35] * Xano (~bart@a92136.upc-a.chello.nl) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:37] * amigojapan is now known as SailorStarFighte
[7:39] * pm001 (~pm0001@212.6.182.1) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:40] * SailorStarFighte is now known as amigojapan
[7:40] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[7:41] * Cavedude (~Cavedude@unaffiliated/cavedude) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[7:45] * schmodd (~schmodd@unaffiliated/schmodd) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:46] * pa1983 (~patrik@234.varbergkabel-net02.varberg.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[7:52] * Xano (~bart@a92136.upc-a.chello.nl) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[7:54] * dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[7:57] * Xano (~bart@a92136.upc-a.chello.nl) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:00] * schmodd_ (~schmodd@unaffiliated/schmodd) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:02] * schmodd (~schmodd@unaffiliated/schmodd) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[8:03] * huza (~My@221.2.140.186) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:09] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[8:10] * dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:12] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:13] * ThKo (~ThKo@ip-95-222-146-171.hsi15.unitymediagroup.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:13] * bortzmeyer (~stephane@2a01:e35:8bd9:8bb0:21e:8cff:fe76:29b6) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[8:13] * Coffe (~mrGreen@nat.basefarm.se) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:14] * paskl (~paskl@vps713.fra16-inx10.webhod.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:15] * bortzmeyer (~stephane@2a01:e35:8bd9:8bb0:21e:8cff:fe76:29b6) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:19] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[8:22] * skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:22] * paul2520 (~pi@unaffiliated/paul2520) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:22] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:25] * Xano (~bart@a92136.upc-a.chello.nl) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[8:28] * ch007m (~chm@ip-83-134-172-116.dsl.scarlet.be) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:28] * dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[8:31] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[8:34] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:35] * oxhak (~OxHaK@ns330132.ip-37-59-37.eu) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[8:38] * teepee (~teepee@gateway/tor-sasl/teepee) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:40] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[8:41] * Viper-7 (~viper7@ppp121-45-167-196.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[8:46] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[8:46] * red-dragon (~red-drago@gateway/tor-sasl/red-dragon) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[8:47] * red-dragon (~red-drago@gateway/tor-sasl/red-dragon) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:48] * proteusguy (~proteusgu@183.89.94.164) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:49] * Viper-7 (~viper7@ppp121-45-167-196.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:49] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:49] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[8:53] * mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:54] * llorllale (~llorllale@190.166.118.103) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[8:54] * nfr-jsz (~jsz@76.126.242.14) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:54] * llorllale (~llorllale@190.166.118.103) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:58] * Sir_Pony (~boooooo@2606:a000:b484:8500:a4d9:ad0a:435:1153) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[8:59] * nfr-jsz (~jsz@76.126.242.14) Quit ()
[9:00] * nfr-jsz (~jsz@76.126.242.14) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:02] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:02] * MikeJ1971 (~MikeJ1971@vpn-user-248-103.nomadic.bris.ac.uk) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:04] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[9:07] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[9:08] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:09] * amigojapan (~amigojapa@c119045.net21845.cablenet.ne.jp) Quit (Quit: amigojapan)
[9:10] * amigojapan (~amigojapa@c119045.net21845.cablenet.ne.jp) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:10] * amigojapan (~amigojapa@c119045.net21845.cablenet.ne.jp) has left #raspberrypi
[9:12] * JlRd (~jlrd@ip68-110-113-182.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[9:17] * nfr-jsz (~jsz@76.126.242.14) Quit ()
[9:22] * llorllale (~llorllale@190.166.118.103) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[9:22] * linuxstb_ (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:22] * NoNMaDDe_ (~NoNMaDDeN@ppp-171-96-20-114.revip8.asianet.co.th) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:23] * llorllale (~llorllale@190.166.118.103) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:23] * linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[9:29] * tanuva (~tanuva@2a02:908:db10:f600:f0f6:dc4d:c9eb:7ecc) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:32] * ggherdov` (sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjzfdqwbruuhuytz) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:33] * esas (~esas@unaffiliated/esas) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:34] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:35] * red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-67-168.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:38] * NoNMaDDe_ (~NoNMaDDeN@ppp-171-96-20-114.revip8.asianet.co.th) Quit (Quit: Leaving...)
[9:38] * NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@ppp-171-96-20-114.revip8.asianet.co.th) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:38] * Sur-Real (~Surreal@197.87.75.196) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[9:38] * linuxstb_ (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
[9:39] * Sur-Real (~Surreal@197.87.75.196) has joined #raspberrypi
[9:40] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[9:44] * neutrino is now known as caffeinated
[9:49] * harish (harish@nat/redhat/x-tcnbxzdfxrqfggvu) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[9:51] * Tach[Zzz] is now known as Tachyon`
[9:56] * gadgetoid (~gadgetoid@host86-152-65-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:02] * Dogs (~quassel@unaffiliated/dogs) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:04] * omgmog (~omgmog@213.218.193.198) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:04] * Dogs (~quassel@unaffiliated/dogs) Quit (Client Quit)
[10:04] * pm001 (~pm0001@212.6.182.1) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[10:04] * Dogs (~quassel@unaffiliated/dogs) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:08] * huza (~My@221.2.140.186) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8)
[10:08] * gadgetoid_ (~gadgetoid@host81-155-107-9.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:09] * gadgetoid (~gadgetoid@host86-152-65-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[10:09] * gadgetoid_ is now known as gadgetoid
[10:09] * darkavenger_afk is now known as darkavenger
[10:09] * caffeinated (~neutrino@unaffiliated/electron/x-8286743) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
[10:10] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:11] * tdy (~tim@unaffiliated/tdy) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[10:11] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:11] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-biguoqpoenkhqvxq) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:14] * omgmog (~omgmog@213.218.193.198) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[10:14] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-biguoqpoenkhqvxq) Quit (Client Quit)
[10:15] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[10:15] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-hkeveqkblsxutlmh) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:15] * omgmog (~omgmog@213.218.193.198) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:19] * harish (~harish@112.199.252.54) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:20] * linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:21] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-hkeveqkblsxutlmh) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[10:25] * caribou| (~caribooo@91.182.233.188) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:28] * gadgetoid (~gadgetoid@host81-155-107-9.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Quit: gadgetoid)
[10:31] * harish (~harish@112.199.252.54) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[10:33] * dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:34] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:37] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[10:38] * tdy (~tim@unaffiliated/tdy) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:39] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[10:40] * phantoxe (~destroy@a89-152-21-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:40] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:53] * Alina-malina (~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[10:55] * biledemon (~biledemon@unaffiliated/biledemon) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:55] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-ioholqjsrgxddkjm) has joined #raspberrypi
[10:56] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-ioholqjsrgxddkjm) Quit (Client Quit)
[11:00] * Alina-malina (~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:02] * undata (~undata@gateway/tor-sasl/undata) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[11:03] * harish (~harish@175.156.211.117) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:03] * biledemon_ (~biledemon@unaffiliated/biledemon) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:03] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-dcamlsoleojtxbsk) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:03] * Sir_Pony (~boooooo@2606:a000:b484:8500:a4d9:ad0a:435:1153) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:04] * darkavenger is now known as darkavenger_afk
[11:06] * biledemon (~biledemon@unaffiliated/biledemon) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[11:07] * undata (~undata@gateway/tor-sasl/undata) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:11] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:15] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[11:16] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[11:18] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:21] * murlock (~murlock@2001:41d0:8:43b7::1) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[11:21] * pm001 (~pm0001@212.6.182.1) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:23] * red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-67-168.dynamic.qsc.de) Quit (Quit: Verlassend)
[11:23] * proteusguy (~proteusgu@183.89.94.164) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[11:29] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[11:29] * Tachyon` is now known as Tach[Eorzea]
[11:31] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-dcamlsoleojtxbsk) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[11:32] * JlRd (~jlrd@ip68-110-113-182.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:33] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:34] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:35] * biledemon_ (~biledemon@unaffiliated/biledemon) Quit (Quit: biledemon_)
[11:35] * Armand (~martin@2a01:9cc0:40:6:c910:7a2a:1daa:c598) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:36] * mike_t (~mike@pluto.dd.vaz.ru) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[11:36] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[11:37] * mike_t (~mike@pluto.dd.vaz.ru) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:37] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:38] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Read error: No route to host)
[11:39] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:40] * Kirito (~Kirito@pdpc/supporter/student/kirito) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[11:41] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Read error: No route to host)
[11:41] * nashi (~Jaqie@71-220-211-84.eugn.qwest.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:41] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:42] * kd7jwc (~shantorn@71-222-35-72.ptld.qwest.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:46] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[11:49] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:49] * blonkel (~asdgasggK@aftr-37-24-150-69.unity-media.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:50] * gbaman (~gbaman@31.205.104.150) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[11:50] <blonkel> hey is it possible yet to buy the compute module without the dev kit?
[11:50] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[11:50] <nashi> eventually
[11:50] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:50] <blonkel> any european distributor? ;)
[11:50] <nashi> eventually
[11:51] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-ibetxsibrarukiwg) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:51] <blonkel> nashi: i tried to google but i dont find any it
[11:52] * EnDSgUy (~EnDSgUy@195.239.250.79) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:52] <blonkel> ls
[11:53] <mgottschlag> . ..
[11:54] <blonkel> :)
[11:55] * JlRd (~jlrd@ip68-110-113-182.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[11:57] <shiftplusone> blonkel, last I heard was that compute modules will be available next month
[11:57] <shiftplusone> (october)
[11:57] <blonkel> shiftplusone thank you :)
[11:57] * EnDSgUy (~EnDSgUy@195.239.250.79) has left #raspberrypi
[11:58] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi
[11:59] <ShorTie> what about the A+ ??
[11:59] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, not public information, afaik.
[12:00] <ShorTie> okie dokie, just wondering
[12:15] * GentileBen (~RaycisCha@cpc5-lutn10-2-0-cust681.9-3.cable.virginm.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:16] * CDR` (~CDR@unaffiliated/cdr/x-4198819) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:17] * bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@41.Red-88-14-188.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:22] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[12:26] * hepukt4e (~hep@mail.okeanika.net.ua) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:28] * kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[12:28] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:29] * krnlyng (~liar@83.175.90.24) Quit (Read error: No route to host)
[12:32] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[12:35] * bigx (~bigx@cam44-2-82-235-243-114.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:36] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:39] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaways.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:43] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
[12:43] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaways.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[12:44] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:46] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:47] * snuffeluffegus (~snuff@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:49] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[12:50] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-ibetxsibrarukiwg) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[12:50] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-jpntxfjixveoneoy) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:51] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-jpntxfjixveoneoy) Quit (Client Quit)
[12:51] * darkavenger_afk is now known as darkavenger
[12:52] * Noldorin (~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:52] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[12:53] * iceCalt (~iceCalt@p5DDCFD1A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:53] <evil_dan2wik> hmm.
[12:54] <evil_dan2wik> Not really sure if the things I am experiencing are because I removed the SD card or because I am overclocking more.
[12:54] <evil_dan2wik> The speakers are making a loud 'grr' noise.
[12:55] <ShorTie> you removed the sdcard while it was booted up ??
[12:56] * buzzmore (~textual@70.159.238.178.in-addr.arpa) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:56] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@162.13.47.212) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:56] * jonalmeida (~jonalmeid@d24-57-15-47.home.cgocable.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:57] <evil_dan2wik> yes, not on purpose
[12:57] <evil_dan2wik> I put it straight back in.
[12:57] <ShorTie> with the power still on ??
[12:57] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-kwbyflpwiidoymbx) has joined #raspberrypi
[12:57] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
[12:58] <evil_dan2wik> is that bad?
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> hdmi or 3.5mm jack sound?
[12:58] <ShorTie> that to me sounds bad
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> removing the SD card with the power on is reasobanly OK - as long as the Pi is halted - ie. not running Linux...
[12:58] <evil_dan2wik> jack sound.
[12:59] <evil_dan2wik> linux was running.
[12:59] <evil_dan2wik> it was idle
[12:59] <gordonDrogon> ok. i get noise via hdmi with nothing running.
[12:59] <gordonDrogon> you might be OK, but the filesystem will be marked as "dirty", so will need a check at the next boot time.
[13:00] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[13:00] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) Quit ()
[13:04] * pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:05] * marrrk (~marrrk@xdsl-78-35-50-180.netcologne.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:06] <marrrk> Hello. What Database would you ladies and gentlemen recommend to use on a RaspberryPi?
[13:06] * Elek101 (~textual@diagenode.socext.ulg.ac.be) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:08] * Tach[Eorzea] is now known as Tachyon`
[13:08] * torchic_____ (~soemgirl@gateway/tor-sasl/soem-girl) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:08] <gordonDrogon> it depends on what you're storing & how you want to access it.
[13:08] <shiftplusone> for what?
[13:09] <evil_dan2wik> The sound just changed pitch, what does this mean?
[13:09] * NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@ppp-171-96-20-114.revip8.asianet.co.th) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[13:09] <shiftplusone> it means the frequency of the audio changed >.>
[13:10] <shiftplusone> oh, there's context...
[13:10] * shiftplusone reads
[13:10] <evil_dan2wik> yeah.
[13:10] <shiftplusone> is this after restarting?
[13:11] <evil_dan2wik> I accidentally removed the SD card while it was running and about a minute later there was a Grr noise
[13:11] <evil_dan2wik> no, I can't restart yet.
[13:11] <shiftplusone> then it doesn't matter what it means... computers don't generally like their main work media yanked out
[13:12] * torchic (~soemgirl@gateway/tor-sasl/soem-girl) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[13:12] * Willchill (~Willchill@CPE-110-148-171-133.vxl8.lon.bigpond.net.au) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:12] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, but it could also be the overclock I did about 10 minutes ago.
[13:12] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:13] <shiftplusone> I don't see how, but that's moot until it's restarted, or better yet, power cycled.
[13:13] * NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@ppp-171-96-20-114.revip8.asianet.co.th) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:13] * NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@ppp-171-96-20-114.revip8.asianet.co.th) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[13:14] * amikiri (~amikiri@unaffiliated/amikiri) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:14] <evil_dan2wik> I can restart in 2 minutes.
[13:14] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[13:17] <marrrk> I want to store little data only for me. But I still want it to be more flexible than simple files meaning I want to be able to run some basic aggregations over the data.
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> if you need an SQL-line thing, then look at sqlite3 ...
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> *sql-like
[13:18] <shiftplusone> I'd lean towards sqlite3 as well (with backups elsewhere).
[13:18] <evil_dan2wik> um.
[13:18] <evil_dan2wik> I power cycled and the Pi is now hissing loudly.
[13:18] * Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:18] <shiftplusone> are you sure it's the pi and you don't have an audio ground loop?
[13:19] <evil_dan2wik> It has been working fine for 4 days so far
[13:19] <evil_dan2wik> today, I bumped the micro SD card and it ejected.
[13:19] <shiftplusone> sure, but when things stop working, they usually work before that.
[13:19] <evil_dan2wik> but that was just after I tried some new overclock settings.
[13:19] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:20] <shiftplusone> process of elimination \O/. Use default settings.
[13:20] <evil_dan2wik> I am about to.
[13:21] <evil_dan2wik> default settings, a low BRR noise.
[13:23] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[13:24] <evil_dan2wik> spare SD card, still random noise from the audio jack.
[13:24] <shiftplusone> analog?
[13:24] <evil_dan2wik> the head phone plug audio jack.
[13:25] <shiftplusone> Hmm, unfortunately the hw engineers aren't in right now, so I can't ask where that might be coming from. It does sound like a ground loop issue though.
[13:26] <evil_dan2wik> playing an audio file makes the pitch of the noise change, I think something is very wrong.
[13:26] <evil_dan2wik> Even the spare stock image is doing it.
[13:27] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:28] <shiftplusone> is this a b or a b+?
[13:28] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-kwbyflpwiidoymbx) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[13:28] <evil_dan2wik> B+
[13:28] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-qumkvcvhuyexbhzh) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:29] <shiftplusone> Do you have a scope?
[13:29] <evil_dan2wik> no.
[13:29] <evil_dan2wik> I do not.
[13:29] <shiftplusone> k
[13:29] <evil_dan2wik> I wish I did
[13:29] <evil_dan2wik> but I do not.
[13:29] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-qumkvcvhuyexbhzh) Quit (Client Quit)
[13:30] * c00ljs (~c00ljs@201.76.171.30) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:30] <shiftplusone> when you knocked the card, any chance something else, like a cap was damaged?
[13:31] <evil_dan2wik> no, The Pi was in it's case and I lent against it and I pushed against the micro SD card.
[13:31] <shiftplusone> odd
[13:31] <evil_dan2wik> Which ejects it on the B+
[13:31] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-qxbynudukpccrhxj) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:32] * Elek101 (~textual@diagenode.socext.ulg.ac.be) Quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[13:32] <shiftplusone> I don't see anything obvious on the schematic, but seeing the waveform would probably help. Care to guesstimate the frequency and waveform type of the sound?
[13:32] <evil_dan2wik> hmm, not sure
[13:32] * schmodd_ (~schmodd@unaffiliated/schmodd) Quit ()
[13:32] <evil_dan2wik> It doesn't sound like a mains hum.
[13:33] <torchic_____> jus recored it
[13:33] <evil_dan2wik> I can't
[13:33] <evil_dan2wik> no microphone.
[13:34] <shiftplusone> are you using an amp or just headphones?
[13:34] * ch007m_2 (~chm@ip-83-134-172-95.dsl.scarlet.be) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:34] <evil_dan2wik> a single 8Ohm PC speaker.
[13:34] <torchic_____> no like. a cabel
[13:35] <torchic_____> or uhm try a actuel speker haha
[13:35] <shiftplusone> If you don't solve the mystery by tomorrow, I'll prod James.
[13:35] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, it sounds like a small peice of random noise looping over and over.
[13:36] <evil_dan2wik> could it be buffer?
[13:36] * ch007m (~chm@ip-83-134-172-116.dsl.scarlet.be) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
[13:36] <evil_dan2wik> something broken in the audio buffer causing it to constantly output?
[13:36] <shiftplusone> why wouldn't a restart or a different card fix it?
[13:37] <evil_dan2wik> I don't know
[13:37] <evil_dan2wik> It must be hardware since the spare blank card does it too though.
[13:37] <torchic_____> did u try a difren speker
[13:37] <evil_dan2wik> I tried headphones
[13:37] <evil_dan2wik> as well as the PC speaker
[13:40] <marrrk> OK I will do sqlite3
[13:40] * iceCalt_ (~iceCalt@p5DDCFD1A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:40] <evil_dan2wik> I wiggled the headphone port and the sound stopped.
[13:40] <evil_dan2wik> I let go and it starts again.
[13:40] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[13:42] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:42] * Xark (~K@unaffiliated/xark) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[13:43] * iceCalt (~iceCalt@p5DDCFD1A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[13:43] <shiftplusone> what's plugged into the pi? have you tried unplugging everything and a different power supply?
[13:43] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, I must have moved the Pi inside it's enclosure, the headphone port is cracked.
[13:43] <shiftplusone> aha
[13:43] <evil_dan2wik> I have a feeling it is touching the analog video output pin.
[13:43] * Alina-malina (~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[13:43] <shiftplusone> Not sure how you managed that... it doesn't seem flimsy.
[13:44] <evil_dan2wik> not sure either
[13:44] * Alina-malina (~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:44] <evil_dan2wik> but it seems to be the cause.
[13:45] * Elek101 (~textual@diagenode.socext.ulg.ac.be) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:45] <evil_dan2wik> I'll repair it and report back.
[13:45] * murlock (~murlock@2001:41d0:8:43b7::1) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:47] * tanuva (~tanuva@2a02:908:db10:f600:f0f6:dc4d:c9eb:7ecc) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
[13:47] * owen_ (~owen@180.200.145.75) Quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
[13:47] * Kymru (Elite8681@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ykkniburylloaobk) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:48] * buzzmore (~textual@70.159.238.178.in-addr.arpa) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
[13:48] <evil_dan2wik> Seems to have fixed it.
[13:48] * jerome- (~jerome@mna75-8-82-234-66-158.fbx.proxad.net) Quit (Quit: -)
[13:50] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[13:52] * Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
[13:52] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-qxbynudukpccrhxj) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[13:54] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:56] * kij__ (kij__@c-76-23-251-139.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:56] * Elek101 (~textual@diagenode.socext.ulg.ac.be) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
[13:56] * jerome- (~jerome@mna75-8-82-234-66-158.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:58] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-njnblbrqszetlsqd) has joined #raspberrypi
[13:59] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-njnblbrqszetlsqd) Quit (Client Quit)
[14:00] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:00] * techwave61 (~py@ool-18b9b3ea.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[14:01] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
[14:01] * techwave61 (~py@ool-18b9b3ea.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:02] * ppq (~ppq@unaffiliated/ppq) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:03] * amikiri (~amikiri@unaffiliated/amikiri) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[14:04] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-zijrachckwxabzrr) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:04] * Sur-Real (~Surreal@197.87.75.196) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[14:04] * Sur-Real (~Surreal@197.87.75.196) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:05] * Warrior-kk (~Warrior@114.248.147.171) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:06] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:07] * Sur-Real (~Surreal@197.87.75.196) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[14:07] * Sur-Real (~Surreal@197.87.75.196) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:08] <Davespice> folks, need some help. x11vnc, what is the command line parameter to make the mouse cursor on the physical display move on the remote desktop?
[14:08] <Davespice> so, for example, the remote desktop could be used as the main display
[14:09] * Sur-Real (~Surreal@197.87.75.196) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[14:11] * murlock (~murlock@2001:41d0:8:43b7::1) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[14:11] <shiftplusone> Davespice, just "-cursor arrow" doesn't do it?
[14:12] <shiftplusone> -cursorpos
[14:12] <shiftplusone> Option -cursorpos enables sending the X cursor position
[14:12] <shiftplusone> back to all vnc clients that support the TightVNC CursorPosUpdates extension. Other clients will be able to see the pointer motions. Default: -cursorpos
[14:14] * Warrior-kk (~Warrior@114.248.147.171) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[14:15] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:19] * Warrior-kk (~Warrior@114.248.147.171) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:19] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[14:21] <Davespice> hmm
[14:21] <Davespice> okay, real vnc seems to not be doing it
[14:21] * Icicle_Trepan (~IcicleTre@unaffiliated/icicletrepan) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:22] * TricycleBedpan (~IcicleTre@unaffiliated/icicletrepan) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:22] * IcicleTrepan (~IcicleTre@unaffiliated/icicletrepan) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[14:22] <Davespice> yeah -cursorpos does not move allow the physical display mouse cursor to move on the remote desktop
[14:24] * snuffeluffegus (~snuff@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845) Quit (Quit: The force will be with you, always.)
[14:24] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-zijrachckwxabzrr) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[14:26] * kirin` (telex@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-nbfbtbtguykejdfv) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[14:26] * Icicle_Trepan (~IcicleTre@unaffiliated/icicletrepan) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[14:27] * kirin` (telex@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-zywgcgahztcvbcju) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:28] <shiftplusone> Need to find the magical combination of software and switches to make it work, but I guess now is not the time for that.
[14:28] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[14:28] * N4meless0ne (~nameless@net-2-35-156-70.cust.vodafonedsl.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:29] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-vntbhxnnoeteabtk) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:30] * divine (~divine@2001:470:8247:1::42) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[14:31] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:33] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@162.13.47.212) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[14:33] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[14:34] <Davespice> well, it would be nice to be able to get it working for the picademy cohort
[14:34] * froggy (~froggy@unaffiliated/limpet) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:36] * divine (~divine@2001:470:8247:1::42) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:36] <shiftplusone> I'd give it a go, but I'm not set up to fiddle with that sort of thing right now. The pi is in a bit of a precarious setup just for kernel development.
[14:36] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:37] <Davespice> we're in the boardroom if you fancy having a go :)
[14:37] * murlock (~murlock@2001:41d0:8:43b7::1) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:37] <shiftplusone> Me? go amidst people? Are you crazy!?
[14:37] * linwiz (~linwiz@unaffiliated/linwiz) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:38] <shiftplusone> but yeah, it's the sort of thing you'd want to get going before rather than on the day. >_<
[14:38] * DimeBag (~llorllale@190.166.121.119) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:39] * llorllale (~llorllale@190.166.118.103) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[14:40] * rosapoP (~none@unaffiliated/rosapop) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:41] * linwiz (~linwiz@unaffiliated/linwiz) Quit (Client Quit)
[14:42] * ThKo (~ThKo@ip-95-222-146-171.hsi15.unitymediagroup.de) has left #raspberrypi
[14:47] * Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:49] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[14:51] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:52] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:54] * Bilby (~bgates@cpe-174-101-47-55.columbus.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:55] * murlock (~murlock@2001:41d0:8:43b7::1) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[14:55] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[14:55] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) Quit (Client Quit)
[14:57] * Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[14:57] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:58] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) has joined #raspberrypi
[14:58] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[15:00] * aural (~aural@unaffiliated/necrodearia) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[15:00] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:05] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[15:07] * Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:07] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[15:08] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:11] * teepee (~teepee@gateway/tor-sasl/teepee) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[15:12] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:12] * frauxsh_ (~pi@gateway/tor-sasl/frauxsh) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[15:15] * frauxsh_ (~pi@gateway/tor-sasl/frauxsh) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:16] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:16] * teepee (~teepee@gateway/tor-sasl/teepee) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:20] * mienski (~mienski@120.147.0.179) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:20] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[15:21] * marrrk_ (~marrrk@xdsl-89-0-140-247.netcologne.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:23] * mike_t (~mike@pluto.dd.vaz.ru) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[15:23] * marrrk (~marrrk@xdsl-78-35-50-180.netcologne.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[15:23] * marrrk_ is now known as marrrk
[15:28] * Willchill (~Willchill@CPE-110-148-171-133.vxl8.lon.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[15:29] * neutrino-- (~neutrino@unaffiliated/electron/x-8286743) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:30] * taza (~taza@unaffiliated/taza) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:30] <neutrino--> are the serial ports on the motherboards rs232 voltage levels or TTL voltage levels ?
[15:30] <pksato> ?
[15:30] <neutrino--> my motherboard has a serial port but its not brought out on a connector
[15:31] <pksato> It is a standard RS232 +12, -12V
[15:31] <neutrino--> its a header on the motherboard , not a db9 brought to the back of the motherboard
[15:32] <pksato> Yes. Its is a standard RS232
[15:32] <neutrino--> okay
[15:33] <pksato> use max2332 or similar to converter to LvTTL.
[15:33] <neutrino--> cool
[15:33] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[15:33] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[15:35] * Slippern (~Slippern@76.109-247-208.customer.lyse.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:36] * mienski (~mienski@120.147.0.179) Quit (Quit: mienski)
[15:38] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[15:39] * TricycleBedpan is now known as IcicleTrepan
[15:40] * neutrino-- (~neutrino@unaffiliated/electron/x-8286743) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
[15:40] * Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) Quit (Excess Flood)
[15:40] * desikitteh{HH} is now known as desikitteh{HH}[t
[15:42] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:44] * linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
[15:44] * robmorrissey (~robmorris@cpc26-brig15-2-0-cust123.3-3.cable.virginm.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:46] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:47] * Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:50] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[15:50] * N4meless0ne (~nameless@net-2-35-156-70.cust.vodafonedsl.it) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)
[15:51] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:54] * DimeBag (~llorllale@190.166.121.119) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[15:54] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[15:56] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[15:56] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[15:56] * marrrk (~marrrk@xdsl-89-0-140-247.netcologne.de) has left #raspberrypi
[15:56] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:58] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:59] * vcolombo (~vcolombo@cip-248.trustwave.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[15:59] * vcolombo (~vcolombo@cip-248.trustwave.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[15:59] * vcolombo (~vcolombo@cip-248.trustwave.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:03] * rosapoP (~none@unaffiliated/rosapop) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[16:08] * pm001 (~pm0001@212.6.182.1) Quit ()
[16:09] * pii4 (~pii4__@unaffiliated/pii4) Quit (Quit: [-.-]...)
[16:10] * kzard (~kzard@41.85.12.100) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:11] * pii4 (~pii4__@unaffiliated/pii4) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:15] * kzard (~kzard@41.85.12.100) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[16:15] * red-dragon (~red-drago@gateway/tor-sasl/red-dragon) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[16:17] * jlf (~user@pdpc/supporter/active/jlf) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[16:18] * red-dragon (~red-drago@gateway/tor-sasl/red-dragon) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:19] * froggy (~froggy@unaffiliated/limpet) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[16:22] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@2.191.195.160) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:27] * SjB (~goad@uwo-csl10358.nca.uwo.ca) Quit (Quit: 0.4.2)
[16:30] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:31] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
[16:31] * froggy (~froggy@unaffiliated/limpet) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:31] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:32] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
[16:32] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:33] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
[16:33] * Coffe (~mrGreen@nat.basefarm.se) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[16:34] * sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:34] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:35] * oxhak (~OxHaK@ns330132.ip-37-59-37.eu) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:35] * red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-67-168.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:35] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:36] * NedScott (~nedscott@xbmc/staff/nedscott) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[16:36] * outofbounds (~outofboun@gateway/tor-sasl/outofbounds) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:37] * froggy (~froggy@unaffiliated/limpet) Quit (Quit: oops!)
[16:37] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@2.191.195.160) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[16:40] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[16:41] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[16:41] * kij__ (kij__@c-76-23-251-139.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[16:42] * NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@wf-171-99-180-238.revip9.asianet.co.th) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:45] * NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@wf-171-99-180-238.revip9.asianet.co.th) Quit (Client Quit)
[16:45] * dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[16:46] * murlock (~murlock@2001:41d0:8:43b7::1) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:46] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:47] * tahoemph (~tahoemph@172-2-16-223.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[16:49] * red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-67-168.dynamic.qsc.de) Quit (Quit: Verlassend)
[16:51] * NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@wf-171-99-180-238.revip9.asianet.co.th) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:54] * a7x (~found@unaffiliated/a7x) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[16:55] * NedScott (~nedscott@xbmc/staff/nedscott) has joined #raspberrypi
[16:58] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[17:00] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:02] * rjanja (~rjanja@066-241-071-136.ashlandfiber.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:04] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[17:05] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:07] * jlf (~user@pdpc/supporter/active/jlf) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:09] * tanuva (~tanuva@aftr-37-24-145-98.unity-media.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:10] * linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:11] * ppq (~ppq@unaffiliated/ppq) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[17:14] * mang0|AFK is now known as mang0
[17:15] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:15] * Wryness (~Wryness@gateway/tor-sasl/lunario) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:16] <niston> I'm stuck with an issue where an application written in C#, and using several native libraries, ends in a SIGSEGV with mono on the Raspberry (with ARMv6 versions of the native libs) but runs perfectly fine on Windows (with x86 versions of those native libs). After making 101% sure that it is not my code failing, I'm now talking to library dev and the people on mono IRC. But the mono guy
[17:16] <niston> who might be able to even work out WTF is happening.... is never around. Blargh.
[17:18] <e^ipi> well, where is the segfault ? you should be able to get a core file & debug it
[17:20] * skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
[17:20] * kij__ (kij__@c-76-23-251-139.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:23] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[17:25] * linwiz (~linwiz@unaffiliated/linwiz) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:26] * linwiz (~linwiz@unaffiliated/linwiz) Quit (Client Quit)
[17:26] * linwiz (~linwiz@unaffiliated/linwiz) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:26] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:28] <niston> http://pastebin.com/y0NNjpVW thats the message
[17:28] <niston> the code doesn't even execute, the error apparently happens in mono when its loading the native libs
[17:31] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[17:32] <niston> some speculated that the reason might be that one particular library was accidentally compiled for armv7 instead of 6...
[17:32] <niston> so Im waiting for the lib dev to comment on that.
[17:32] <mgottschlag> that should be rather easy to find out, if you find out where in the binary it crashes, shouldn't it?
[17:33] <mgottschlag> although, the stacktrace does not point to mono code, and ABI incompatibility there would first crash due to illegal instructions
[17:34] * slvmchn (~slv@209-6-93-101.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[17:34] <e^ipi> run the core file through gdb, dump the stack
[17:34] <niston> how do I do that?
[17:34] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:35] <niston> how to I tell gdb to launch and attach "mono <something>" ?
[17:35] * The_Woodsman (~The_Woods@98.210.76.217) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[17:36] * StolenToast (~root@cnut.resist.cc) Quit (Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))
[17:36] <e^ipi> `gdb mono <whatever>` yeah?
[17:36] <e^ipi> frankly i do most of my debugging in sunos with mdb so it’s a bit different
[17:37] <niston> "/home/pi/sirp.exe" is not a core dump: File format not recognized
[17:37] <niston> prolly wrong syntax :D
[17:38] <e^ipi> k well it should be google-able
[17:38] <mgottschlag> gdb --args mono ...
[17:38] <niston> that gives me (gdb) prompt
[17:39] <niston> so I figure it worked?
[17:39] <mgottschlag> "r<return>"
[17:39] <niston> aah
[17:39] <niston> :D
[17:39] <niston> lol wtf?
[17:39] <niston> Program received signal SIGPWR, Power fail/restart.
[17:39] <mgottschlag> it might not work though if mono starts the program in a different process
[17:39] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[17:39] <mgottschlag> :D
[17:39] * steve1 (~steve1@2602:ffe8:100:2::6f38:2ed5) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[17:39] <mgottschlag> okay, I've never seen that one
[17:40] <niston> I normally debug in visual studio haha xD
[17:40] <niston> hmm
[17:40] * ijustam (~ijustam@209.43.1.25) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:40] <mgottschlag> did it crash at the same place, or did it do something completely different?
[17:41] <niston> it certainly looks completely different from the SIGSEGV message
[17:41] * steve1 (~steve1@2602:ffe8:100:2::6f38:2ed5) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:41] <mgottschlag> "bt" prints a backtrace
[17:42] <niston> ok that looks similar
[17:42] <e^ipi> i’ve never actually heard of sigpwr :P
[17:43] <niston> numbers (addresses?) are different, but the text is the same as thread2 on the sigsegv message
[17:43] * PacketFarm (~PacketFar@109.201.154.213) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[17:43] <mgottschlag> okay, bad luck, the second thread already is mono's internal debugger, so you have already missed the real problem
[17:44] <mgottschlag> you should find out what 0xb684af50 in ?? () from /home/pi/libbassmix.so is
[17:44] <mgottschlag> because that is where it entered the debugger
[17:44] <niston> ok
[17:44] <mgottschlag> maybe try "frame 4", I don't know how to tell gdb to give you dissassembly from that point though
[17:44] <niston> not as if a disassembly would help me much hehe
[17:45] <hosler> lol gentoo finished updating on my pi
[17:45] <niston> last time I looked into ASM was on MOS6510 cpu -.-
[17:45] <mgottschlag> well, it might crash on some exotic armv7 instruction :)
[17:45] <mgottschlag> someone in this channel might know
[17:45] <shiftplusone> I think you'd get a more helpful exception
[17:45] <niston> you mean in armv7 instruction in mono?
[17:46] <shiftplusone> if it was an architecture issue
[17:46] <mgottschlag> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/762628/gdb-getting-a-symbol-name-from-a-memory-address
[17:46] <niston> the lib dev just replied that he tested native w/o mono
[17:46] <mgottschlag> shiftplusone: the exception is caught by mono though
[17:46] <niston> on raspberry and it works
[17:46] <niston> so its down to mono
[17:46] <mgottschlag> maybe try resolving address 0xb684af50 (or whatever the address of your new crash is) with that method
[17:47] <shiftplusone> fair enough, I don't know what these VMs do in such cases.
[17:47] <mgottschlag> then "_start + 5 in section .text" is something which can be looked up in the binary
[17:47] <mgottschlag> (or rather the corresponding offset it gives you
[17:47] <mgottschlag> )
[17:47] * linwiz (~linwiz@unaffiliated/linwiz) Quit (Killed (kornbluth.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))
[17:48] * Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:48] * linwiz_ (~linwiz@unaffiliated/linwiz) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:48] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@2.191.195.160) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:48] <mgottschlag> it could even be that linux does some kind of fpu emulation which mono doesn't, there are some ways that the VM can cause crashs due to ABI incompatibility issues
[17:49] <mgottschlag> unlikely, but possible
[17:49] * linwiz (linwiz@unaffiliated/linwiz) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:49] <shiftplusone> have you spoken to plugwash about this?
[17:50] <niston> well
[17:52] * linwiz is now known as linwiz__
[17:52] <niston> I think its something mono related.
[17:52] * linwiz_ is now known as linwiz
[17:52] <niston> would be interesting to check if the crash happens on pc based linux too
[17:53] <niston> I don't have any linux here besides raspi, just fbsd.
[17:53] <shiftplusone> doubt it, since there are a few known issues with mono on armv6 hf specifically.... that might be one of them.
[17:53] <niston> that would seriously suck and kill dead my project :(
[17:53] <shiftplusone> What's the project?
[17:54] <niston> http://imgur.com/a/xMDYJ
[17:54] <e^ipi> if you have the internet, you have linux. virtualbox and an iso
[17:55] <shiftplusone> ooh, what's that control panel?
[17:56] <niston> :>
[17:56] <niston> http://www.matrixorbital.ca/
[17:56] <niston> its the GLK19264
[17:56] <niston> so I built this "Tuner" for internet radio
[17:57] <niston> I use multiple stream receivers to provide seamless switching between stations
[17:57] <niston> but this relies on mixing and, possibly, resampling
[17:57] * hepukt4e (~hep@mail.okeanika.net.ua) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[17:57] * linwiz__ (linwiz@unaffiliated/linwiz) Quit (Quit: outty)
[17:57] <niston> which is what libbassmix.so does.
[17:57] <niston> and that's been acting up.
[17:58] <shiftplusone> there's always C
[17:58] <niston> gah.
[17:58] <niston> -.-
[17:58] <niston> it should work.
[17:59] * ech0s7 (~ech0s7@93-41-28-61.ip79.fastwebnet.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[17:59] <shiftplusone> that's a good thing
[17:59] <shiftplusone> ?
[17:59] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@2.191.195.160) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[17:59] <shiftplusone> "it should work" is not something I want to come across when programming
[18:00] <shiftplusone> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/463e4e4f4acb9afc185a067b7f360321.jpg
[18:00] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@2.191.195.160) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:00] <niston> well of course I could trash all the hours that went into it so far and restart from scratch in a different programming language im not even skilled in.
[18:00] <niston> I could also learn to master that other language.
[18:00] <niston> so perhaps in 5 or 6 years it will be done.
[18:01] <shiftplusone> niston, I haven't programmed C much before being thrown into the deep end. It doesn't take years.
[18:01] <shiftplusone> especially if you have a project in mind and you already know how it should be implemented
[18:01] <niston> well still it should work with those libs. seeing as how there exist versions for multiple platforms. seeing as how the creator of bass.net spent a great deal of effort in making everything portable.
[18:02] <niston> libbass.so works, libbass_aac.so works... why not libbassmix.so
[18:02] <niston> this needs to be rectified.
[18:02] <shiftplusone> but yeah, I don't necessarily think that C is the right option or that switching languages even makes sense here. It's just how I would've approached this particular project.
[18:03] <shiftplusone> actually, I would've probably used python, because... lazy.
[18:03] <niston> shiftplusone: I agree, but portability between windows and linux was a key motivation ^^
[18:03] * bigx (~bigx@cam44-2-82-235-243-114.fbx.proxad.net) Quit (Read error: No route to host)
[18:04] <shiftplusone> C is portable, you just need to re-compile it and make sure you use cross-platform libraries.
[18:04] <niston> perhaps but my point was that I can run blah.exe on windows and mono blah.exe on the berry.
[18:04] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[18:04] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@2.191.195.160) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[18:04] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:05] <niston> so I figured why not make something cool, and becuz I already knew the BASS lib from windows, and saw how there existed an arm version for the berry...
[18:05] <shiftplusone> Well no, you can run blah.exe on windows and crash blah.exe on the pi =P
[18:05] <niston> I went and failed.
[18:05] <niston> yeah.
[18:05] <niston> that's totally not how it should be :/
[18:05] * bigx (~bigx@cam44-2-82-235-243-114.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:06] <shiftplusone> hmm... very friday-ish tuesday at the office today.
[18:06] <shiftplusone> pi-brewed beer and no work being done (on my end)
[18:06] <niston> hehe
[18:07] <niston> ah, I realize that linux is still profitable in this situation.
[18:07] * ech0s7 (~ech0s7@93-41-28-61.ip79.fastwebnet.it) Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
[18:07] <niston> at least it crashes *reliably*
[18:07] * davor (~davor@unaffiliated/davor) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[18:07] <shiftplusone> so what is this BASS library and why are you set on it?
[18:08] * leio (~leio@gentoo/developer/leio) Quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
[18:08] * leio (~leio@gentoo/developer/leio) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:09] <niston> its an audio subsystem
[18:09] * TheHacker66 (~TheHacker@ppp-250-7.30-151.libero.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[18:10] <niston> it covers many aspects from receiving and encoding internet streaming with various codecs, DSP effects, recording, mixing, splitting, resampling to 3D sound for games.
[18:10] <shiftplusone> ah
[18:10] <niston> I have some background, having used it for various undertakings on windows.
[18:10] * SjB (~goad@uwo-csl10358.nca.uwo.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:11] <niston> 6 years ago I had a buddy over and we created the "perfect" internet radio tuner in an overnight session. but it was "software only", nothing physical to it.
[18:12] <niston> so one of these days I looked at the Berry and remembered that old project.
[18:12] * leio (~leio@gentoo/developer/leio) Quit (Client Quit)
[18:12] * leio (~leio@gentoo/developer/leio) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:13] * niston wonders if he should try to compile mono 3.8.0 on the berry
[18:13] <niston> seeing as how the installed one is 3.2.something
[18:13] * davor (~davor@unaffiliated/davor) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:14] <niston> I have 3.8.0 on windows because Mono.Data.Sqlite is broken on windows in the 3.2 version
[18:14] <niston> but it will take forever to do this, if I'm not entirely mistaken.
[18:17] <shiftplusone> this page looks handy http://www.mono-project.com/docs/debug+profile/debug/#debugging-with-gdb
[18:17] * kij__ (kij__@c-76-23-251-139.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[18:17] <niston> ah
[18:17] <niston> the SIGPWR :>
[18:18] * Xano (bart@conference/drupalcon/x-vntbhxnnoeteabtk) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[18:18] <skyroveRR> shiftplusone: what do you mean when you said "pi brewed beer"? You meant you have a machine powered by a pi for brewing beer? Can I have a look at that?
[18:20] <niston> ah, now that I created the gdbinit file, things look different
[18:21] * tanuva (~tanuva@aftr-37-24-145-98.unity-media.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
[18:21] * marklite is now known as markelite
[18:21] <shiftplusone> skyroveRR, I don't have such a machine, but someone with such a machine has donated the output from such a machine to the office.
[18:21] <skyroveRR> Oh
[18:22] <skyroveRR> Does it taste the same as the original?
[18:22] <niston> shiftplusone: nice machine :>
[18:23] * PasNox (~pasnox@2a01:e34:ee42:d070:e987:a8aa:fd7d:fc49) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:23] <niston> new output: http://pastebin.com/4Z89b0ex
[18:23] * dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:23] <shiftplusone> skyroveRR, well, it's very different to regular beer
[18:24] <shiftplusone> niston, and bt says.... ?
[18:25] * Syliss (~Home2@dpncorp1.digitalpath.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:29] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[18:31] * Keanu73 (~Keanu73@unaffiliated/keanu73) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:31] <Keanu73> Hi :)
[18:31] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[18:31] * steve1 (~steve1@2602:ffe8:100:2::6f38:2ed5) has left #raspberrypi
[18:32] * gurdulilfo (~gurdulilf@c68A047C1.dhcp.as2116.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:32] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:33] <niston> http://pastebin.com/F7YG6Av5
[18:33] * Dogs (~quassel@unaffiliated/dogs) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[18:33] * snuffeluffegus (~snuff@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:33] <shiftplusone> need moar debug symbols
[18:34] <Keanu73> :P
[18:35] * lazy_prince is now known as killer_prince
[18:35] <niston> wait
[18:35] <niston> what about mono_pmip
[18:36] <niston> or does this indicate that the sefault indeed comes from the libbassmix.so ?
[18:36] <shiftplusone> I don't know, I haven't been paying attention
[18:37] * MikeJ1971 (~MikeJ1971@vpn-user-248-103.nomadic.bris.ac.uk) Quit (Quit: Bye!)
[18:37] <shiftplusone> I'm looking at something that looks like this http://paste.debian.net/123841/
[18:38] * Bozza_ (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[18:38] <shiftplusone> (self explanatory, but I need a little more info to track it down)
[18:38] * darkbasic_ (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:38] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:39] * skyroveRR (~skyroveRR@unaffiliated/skyroverr) Quit (Quit: Quit.)
[18:39] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[18:40] * tanuva (~tanuva@aftr-37-24-145-98.unity-media.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:40] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:41] * kij__ (kij__@c-76-23-251-139.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:41] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:42] * omgmog (~omgmog@213.218.193.198) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[18:42] * omgmog (~omgmog@213.218.193.198) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:42] * darkavenger is now known as darkavenger_afk
[18:44] * murlock (~murlock@2001:41d0:8:43b7::1) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[18:45] * takkie (~takkie@dhcp-089-098-119-035.chello.nl) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[18:45] * govg (~govg@unaffiliated/govg) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[18:45] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[18:45] <blonkel> aynone got a mirror of jre7 (oracle) ?
[18:45] <blonkel> offically download is offline :(
[18:46] <ShorTie> apt-get is no good ??
[18:46] <blonkel> i dont use apt-get, building my own system
[18:46] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[18:47] * govg (~govg@unaffiliated/govg) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:48] * ppq (~ppq@unaffiliated/ppq) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:50] <nashi> anyone ever think of trying the rockchip 3188 based raspberry pi like SOC?
[18:55] * mike_t (~mike@95.67.197.65) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:55] * phantoxe (~destroy@a89-152-21-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[18:55] <niston> ah
[18:56] <niston> apparently "info sharedlibrary libbassmix.so" gives the addresses occupied by the .so
[18:56] * Vibe (~Vibe@gateway/tor-sasl/vib3) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[18:56] <niston> and from "#0 0xb5a56f50 in ?? () from /home/pi/libbassmix.so" the developer can see what operation fails
[18:56] <niston> as I understand?
[18:56] * Vibe (~Vibe@gateway/tor-sasl/vib3) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:56] <niston> 0xb5a505e0 0xb5a59328 Yes (*) /home/pi/libbassmix.so
[18:56] <niston> so its an offset into the address range
[18:57] <shiftplusone> nope, because the developer won't know much from that
[18:58] <shiftplusone> unless he/she compiled it and has the symbols for that binary.
[18:58] <shiftplusone> then you'd want to also provide the register content and what's on the stack
[18:58] <niston> how do I do that?
[18:58] <niston> gdb commands?
[18:59] * jiuweigui (~jiuweigui@unaffiliated/jiuweigui) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:59] * Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-63-145.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi
[18:59] <niston> the guy compiled the binaries yeah. I presume he does have symbols for debugging.
[19:00] <niston> ah, info registers looks promising
[19:00] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[19:01] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:01] <niston> and info frame?
[19:03] <mgottschlag> that still will only give you useless numbers, unless you specify a symbol file
[19:06] <niston> so he needs to do this on his Berry
[19:07] * jlf (~user@pdpc/supporter/active/jlf) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[19:07] <niston> or give me the Symbol file?
[19:08] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[19:08] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:09] <mgottschlag> well, even then finding the root cause will be difficult without sources, and fixing will be impossible
[19:11] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[19:15] * PasNox (~pasnox@2a01:e34:ee42:d070:e987:a8aa:fd7d:fc49) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[19:15] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:15] * iceCalt_ (~iceCalt@p5DDCFD1A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[19:15] * kzard (~kzard@105-237-114-109.access.mtnbusiness.co.za) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:18] * Vialas (~Vialas@14-203-235-228.static.tpgi.com.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[19:19] * Vialas (~Vialas@14-203-235-228.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:20] * kzard (~kzard@105-237-114-109.access.mtnbusiness.co.za) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[19:20] * Kirito (~Kirito@pdpc/supporter/student/kirito) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:20] <shiftplusone> If he can get it to "Function x was called with these arguments. Here's what the content of those arguments is...", then he might be able to investigate what's going on.
[19:21] <shiftplusone> If he gets the output of urandom, there's not much to go on.
[19:21] * Vialas (~Vialas@14-203-235-228.static.tpgi.com.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[19:21] * Vialas (~Vialas@14-203-235-228.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:21] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:22] * PasNox (~pasnox@2a01:e34:ee42:d070:e987:a8aa:fd7d:fc49) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:23] * govg (~govg@unaffiliated/govg) Quit (Quit: leaving)
[19:26] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[19:27] * [SLB] (~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[19:28] * mike_t (~mike@95.67.197.65) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[19:28] * Vialas (~Vialas@14-203-235-228.static.tpgi.com.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[19:30] * Vialas (~Vialas@14-203-235-228.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:31] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:31] * mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[19:31] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
[19:32] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:32] * iceCalt (~iceCalt@p5DDCFD1A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:33] * ppq (~ppq@unaffiliated/ppq) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[19:33] * jlf (~user@pdpc/supporter/active/jlf) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:36] * mgottschlag (~mgottschl@reactos/tester/phoenix64) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:36] * oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:36] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[19:37] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:40] * Keanu73 (~Keanu73@unaffiliated/keanu73) Quit (Quit: Going off my Raspberry Pi and switching to my laptop.)
[19:42] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@151.241.196.210) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:42] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[19:42] * darkbasic_ (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
[19:43] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:43] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:43] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
[19:44] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@151.241.196.210) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[19:45] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@151.241.196.210) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:46] * O00O (~O00O@unaffiliated/zz0) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:48] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:50] <niston> hehe
[19:50] <niston> well Im pretty confident the guy will figure it out
[19:51] * qrf (~kaafir@unaffiliated/yw) has left #raspberrypi
[19:52] * ShawnWhite (ShawnWhite@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe70:27e1) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:52] * GentileBen is now known as IndignantBen
[19:53] * am0khuman (~username@gateway/tor-sasl/dollylaggle) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:53] <niston> there might be a possible difference between net/mono in that net seems to load a library only if it is called while mono appears to load them right away.
[19:53] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@151.241.196.210) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[19:53] * girafe (~girafe@AGrenoble-651-1-484-51.w90-42.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:54] * IndignantBen is now known as GentileBen
[19:54] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@162.13.47.212) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:56] * Keanu73 (~Keanu73@unaffiliated/keanu73) has joined #raspberrypi
[19:57] * ShawnWhite adds #raspberrypi to his list of lurking channels after getting his first pi yesterday
[19:57] <niston> :>
[19:58] <shiftplusone> happy lurking
[19:58] <ShawnWhite> thanks
[19:58] <ShawnWhite> though what was the context on what niston said about mono vs net?
[19:58] * ShawnWhite knows a bit mono/net implementation details
[19:59] <ShawnWhite> oh there are logs in the topic
[19:59] * ShawnWhite reads
[19:59] * am0khuman (~username@gateway/tor-sasl/dollylaggle) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.0)
[19:59] * Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-63-145.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Quit: Quitte)
[19:59] * Wryness (~Wryness@gateway/tor-sasl/lunario) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[20:00] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@162.13.47.212) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[20:01] <niston> there's more info: http://www.un4seen.com/forum/?topic=13804.msg111729#msg111729
[20:02] * shana (zen@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe96:b0f1) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:02] * shana lurks in after hearing there's some mono vs .net thing going on
[20:02] <ShawnWhite> heh
[20:02] <niston> heh
[20:02] <ShawnWhite> shana: http://www.un4seen.com/forum/?topic=13804.msg111729#msg111729
[20:03] <ShawnWhite> (shana is the actual mono pro, I just pretend)
[20:03] * shana is not stalking ShawnWhite
[20:03] <shiftplusone> Apparently, the way to attract more people to the channel is to talk about .net. O_o
[20:03] <niston> lol
[20:03] <ShawnWhite> no no
[20:03] <ShawnWhite> talk about mono
[20:03] <ShawnWhite> way more interesting
[20:03] <ShawnWhite> :P
[20:04] <shiftplusone> We were, but people only started piling in when .net was brought in.
[20:05] <mgottschlag> heh, way too crowded atm. we should start talking about lisp.
[20:06] * Envil (~meep@95.211.26.40) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:06] <ShawnWhite> can't help there
[20:06] <niston> lol mgottschlag
[20:06] <shana> yeah, there's not much info on that stacktrace
[20:06] <shiftplusone> Well... home time, I guess.
[20:06] * akamez (~root@155.Red-81-37-145.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:07] <niston> shana: but it seems the error originates from libbassmix.so?
[20:07] <niston> later shiftplusone
[20:07] <shiftplusone> good luck with the thing
[20:07] <niston> thanks :)
[20:07] <shana> yeah, it's triggering from there
[20:07] <shana> debugging library loads on mono is a question of setting MONO_LOG_LEVEL=debug MONO_LOG_MASK=dll
[20:08] <shana> it'll log all pinvokes and native library loads that they trigger
[20:08] <niston> where is that setting?
[20:08] <shana> environment variables
[20:08] <shana> when running mono
[20:08] <niston> Oh
[20:08] <niston> I was fearing constants, recompile and such horror :)
[20:08] <shana> might get info on what native method it's calling into when it crashes
[20:09] <shana> mono has a lot of checks for env vars
[20:09] <shana> otherwise we'd go nuts debugging things :)
[20:10] <ShawnWhite> see! this is why I keep a spare shana around. They're handy...
[20:10] <niston> so I set those env vars
[20:10] <niston> haha xD
[20:10] <shana> also if you want more exception stacktraces if the code is swallowing them in empty catch{} statements, run mono with
[20:10] <shana> --trace=E:all
[20:10] * darkbasic_ (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:10] <shana> other trace options will also show you managed/native calls
[20:10] <niston> the funny thing is, no c# code executes in this case
[20:11] <niston> I can put a Console.WriteLine("blah"); in Main()
[20:11] <niston> and it wont do a thing
[20:11] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[20:11] <shana> it's blowing up in at sirp.Director..ctor () <0x00037> in the stacktrace
[20:11] <shana> that means it's blowing up in the constructors
[20:11] <niston> yes
[20:11] <shana> before it executes the body of main
[20:12] <niston> its the presence of two calls that crash it
[20:12] <shana> if you want to see absolutely everything c# that executes
[20:12] * omgmog (~omgmog@213.218.193.198) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
[20:12] <shana> mono --trace=*
[20:12] <ShawnWhite> scary
[20:12] <shana> iirc
[20:12] <niston> lets try this
[20:12] <shana> check man mono, it'll have the syntax in there
[20:13] * Sneglen (~Sneglen@dhcp-5-103-55-186.seas-nve.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:13] <niston> --trace=E:all doesn't change the output it seems
[20:14] <shana> so according to the man page
[20:14] <shana> --trace=all will trace everything
[20:14] <niston> --trace=all
[20:14] <niston> wow
[20:14] <niston> such output
[20:14] <shana> much wow, yes
[20:14] <niston> very!!1!
[20:14] <niston> =)
[20:15] <niston> [0xb6f4e000: 4.57782 3] ENTER: (wrapper managed-to-native) object:__icall_wrapper_mono_object_new_specific (intptr)() ip: (nil)
[20:15] <niston> [0xb6f4e000: 4.57854 3] LEAVE: (wrapper managed-to-native) object:__icall_wrapper_mono_object_new_specific (intptr)[sirp.subsystems.audio.Streamer:0xb6400a90]
[20:16] <niston> so its the constructor of Streamer
[20:16] <niston> but that's nothing new
[20:16] <niston> if I comment out the calls to libbassmix, it won't segfault
[20:17] <niston> hmm let me check on the simple console app
[20:18] <niston> http://pastebin.com/9nBx1dDe
[20:18] <niston> out of memory exception ?
[20:19] <shana> it initializes global objects
[20:19] <shana> compare that with the output of an empty app
[20:19] * Hello71 (~Hello71@wikipedia/Hello71) Quit (Quit: Bye.)
[20:19] <shana> so you can discard common initialization operations
[20:20] * iamjarvo (~textual@pool-98-115-181-52.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:20] * dunkel2 (~dunkel2@189.237.134.102) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:20] <shana> so it feels like the ld loader blows up
[20:20] <dunkel2> hello
[20:21] <shana> is that .so valid?
[20:21] <shana> try and load it from command line or native c app?
[20:21] * Warrior-kk (~Warrior@114.248.147.171) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[20:21] <shana> there's also a way to trace all the native library loads in linux
[20:22] <shana> so you can check if that gives you info
[20:22] <shana> but feels like the loader is freaking out
[20:22] <niston> positive on the native c app
[20:22] <niston> that works
[20:23] * [SLB] (~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:24] * SiC (~Simon@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust193.aztw.cable.virginm.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:24] * gadgetoid (~gadgetoid@customers.shef1.resi.ask4.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:25] <niston> empty exe http://pastebin.com/CMGbKtPL
[20:25] <niston> looks different
[20:25] <gadgetoid> Ahoy folks!
[20:25] <niston> [0xb6fd1000: 0.02104 1] ENTER: System.StackOverflowException:.ctor (string)() ip: (nil)
[20:25] <niston> eh no strike that
[20:26] * nashi (~Jaqie@71-220-211-84.eugn.qwest.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[20:26] * omgmog (~omgmog@213.218.193.198) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:27] <niston> the bassmixchk.exe trace is actually shorter than the empty.exe one
[20:27] <niston> [0xb6fd0000: 0.02661 0] LEAVE: (wrapper runtime-invoke) <Module>:runtime_invoke_void__this___object (object,intptr,intptr,intptr)[OBJECT:(nil)]
[20:29] * [SLB] (~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua) Quit (Quit: Close the world, Open the nExt)
[20:32] * TheHacker66 (~TheHacker@ppp-250-7.30-151.libero.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:33] <niston> so its the runtime_invoke that crashes?
[20:33] * TheHacke166 (~TheHacker@ppp-250-7.30-151.libero.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:33] <shana> it feels like it blows up after initializing the class and before calling main
[20:33] <shana> when loading the .so
[20:34] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[20:34] <shana> or something to that effect
[20:34] <shana> it's definitely blowing in the runtime before getting back to managed land, so it's a native crash
[20:34] <shana> unless it's blowing up doing the runtime_invoke, but
[20:34] * shana checks
[20:35] * TheHacke166 (~TheHacker@ppp-250-7.30-151.libero.it) has left #raspberrypi
[20:35] * shiftplusone reads up on the mono saga.
[20:35] <shana> #3 <signal handler called>
[20:35] <shana> #4 0xb5771f50 in ?? () from /home/pi/libbassmix.so
[20:35] <shana> #5 0xb6f87fc4 in ?? () from /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3
[20:35] <shana> so mono does ld_open, I assume from that stack
[20:36] <shana> yeah, dunno, needs more symbol information to figure out
[20:36] <shana> do you have the symbols for the assmix?
[20:37] * shana drops a b 'cause
[20:38] * kij__ (kij__@c-76-23-251-139.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[20:38] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:38] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:39] * [SLB] (~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:43] * BCMM (~BCMM@unaffiliated/bcmm) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:44] * ch007m_2 (~chm@ip-83-134-172-95.dsl.scarlet.be) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
[20:45] * gadgetoid (~gadgetoid@customers.shef1.resi.ask4.co.uk) Quit (Quit: gadgetoid)
[20:45] <niston> haha
[20:45] <niston> no, but Im sure Ian will have them
[20:46] * EastLight (n@2.222.89.3) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:46] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[20:53] * gordonDrogon (~gordon@2001:4d48:ad51:8901::2) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[20:53] * CDR` (~CDR@unaffiliated/cdr/x-4198819) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[20:54] * CDR` (~CDR@unaffiliated/cdr/x-4198819) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:55] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@c-76-115-7-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[20:55] * gurdulilfo (~gurdulilf@c68A047C1.dhcp.as2116.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[20:56] * dunkel2 (~dunkel2@189.237.134.102) Quit (Quit: dunkel2)
[20:57] * a7x (~found@unaffiliated/a7x) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:57] * MrBIOS (~aperez@ip-66-79-106-4.staticcust.wsteleport.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:58] * Darwerft (b29dcc05@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.178.157.204.5) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:58] <Darwerft> Hello I cant mount my 3tb hdd to my rpi, what can be done?
[20:59] <Darwerft> The error message is 2tb is maximum, can I just re partition my drive? and create two 1.5 tb and mount each on its own?
[21:00] <shiftplusone> 2tb max!? what filesystem is that?
[21:00] <Darwerft> NTFS
[21:00] * NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@wf-171-99-180-238.revip9.asianet.co.th) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[21:01] * gordonDrogon (~gordon@2001:4d48:ad51:8901::2) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:01] <shiftplusone> hmm
[21:03] <shiftplusone> idk, google doesn't seem to say anything interesting and people seem to be just making things up.
[21:03] * CDR` (~CDR@unaffiliated/cdr/x-4198819) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[21:04] <Darwerft> Yeah tried google first..
[21:05] <Darwerft> 3 pages down and still no result then I give up
[21:05] <winlu> is that some kind of limitation when not using ntfs-3g?
[21:05] <Darwerft> maybe
[21:05] <winlu> else no idea where that comes from
[21:06] * vcolombo (~vcolombo@cip-248.trustwave.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[21:07] <Darwerft> tried to install that but I get: could not resolve mirrordirector.raspberry.org
[21:07] <Darwerft> so appears im unable to
[21:07] * \mSg (~mSg@unaffiliated/msg/x-4576342) Quit ()
[21:08] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[21:09] * gordonDrogon (~gordon@2001:4d48:ad51:8901::2) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[21:10] * gadgetoid (~gadgetoid@customers.shef1.resi.ask4.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:11] * Xano (~bart@ip-80-113-6-162.ip.prioritytelecom.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:13] * \mSg (~mSg@unaffiliated/msg/x-4576342) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:14] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:14] * MrBIOS (~aperez@ip-66-79-106-4.staticcust.wsteleport.net) Quit (Quit: MrBIOS)
[21:15] * PasNox (~pasnox@2a01:e34:ee42:d070:e987:a8aa:fd7d:fc49) Quit (Excess Flood)
[21:15] * PasNox (~pasnox@2a01:e34:ee42:d070:e987:a8aa:fd7d:fc49) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:16] * ijustam (~ijustam@209.43.1.25) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[21:16] * vcolombo (~vcolombo@cip-248.trustwave.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:16] * PasNox (~pasnox@2a01:e34:ee42:d070:e987:a8aa:fd7d:fc49) Quit (Client Quit)
[21:16] * vcolombo (~vcolombo@cip-248.trustwave.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[21:17] * vcolombo (~vcolombo@cip-248.trustwave.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:17] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:17] * gordonDrogon (~gordon@2001:4d48:ad51:8901::2) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:18] * CDR` (~CDR@unaffiliated/cdr/x-4198819) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:21] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[21:22] <Darwerft> works now
[21:23] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:23] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) Quit (Quit: Leaving...)
[21:26] <winlu> Darwerft: what did you change?
[21:26] * Wryness (~Wryness@gateway/tor-sasl/lunario) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:26] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:26] <Darwerft> Aparently I hadnt installed ntfs-3g but now I have and it workes
[21:27] <Darwerft> simply sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[21:27] <Darwerft> did the trick
[21:27] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[21:28] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[21:28] <shiftplusone> hurray
[21:28] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) Quit (Client Quit)
[21:29] * SjB (~goad@uwo-csl10358.nca.uwo.ca) Quit (Quit: 0.4.2)
[21:31] * Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-63-145.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:32] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:33] * Hello71 (~Hello71@wikipedia/Hello71) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:33] <Darwerft> Yeah thanks tho
[21:33] <Darwerft> :)
[21:34] * tanuva (~tanuva@aftr-37-24-145-98.unity-media.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
[21:34] <winlu> np
[21:40] * Armand (~martin@2a01:9cc0:40:6:c910:7a2a:1daa:c598) Quit (Quit: Rest in peace, you crazy, funny man.)
[21:41] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:43] <niston> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dumOwLoUOt8&feature=youtu.be
[21:43] <niston> :>
[21:44] <winlu> nice
[21:44] <shiftplusone> choice of music aside, anyway.
[21:45] <niston> random urls from shoutcast :)
[21:45] <shiftplusone> sure
[21:45] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[21:45] <niston> but I like Chromanova :>
[21:47] * Icicle_Trepan (~IcicleTre@unaffiliated/icicletrepan) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:47] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[21:48] * bortzmeyer (~stephane@2a01:e35:8bd9:8bb0:21e:8cff:fe76:29b6) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
[21:48] * IcicleTrepan (~IcicleTre@unaffiliated/icicletrepan) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[21:48] * Icicle_Trepan is now known as IcicleTrepan
[21:48] * weemsledeux (~textual@unaffiliated/weems) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:50] * Kirito (~Kirito@pdpc/supporter/student/kirito) Quit (Quit: Kirito)
[21:52] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[21:53] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) has joined #raspberrypi
[21:55] * snuffeluffegus (~snuff@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[21:57] * omgmog (~omgmog@213.218.193.198) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
[21:59] * Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-63-145.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Quit: Sleeping time!)
[22:00] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:00] * IcicleTrepan (~IcicleTre@unaffiliated/icicletrepan) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[22:00] * Darwerft (b29dcc05@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.178.157.204.5) Quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
[22:01] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[22:10] * Cavedude (~Cavedude@unaffiliated/cavedude) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:15] * gbaman (~gbaman@89.185.154.122) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:17] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:19] * `Nef (~Nef@unaffiliated/nefarious---/x-0774223) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:19] * `NefZzz (~Nef@unaffiliated/nefarious---/x-0774223) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[22:20] * ech0s7 (~ech0s7@host6-157-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:20] * jiuweigui (~jiuweigui@unaffiliated/jiuweigui) Quit (Quit: I gotta run. I've got universe to master.)
[22:21] * D-Boy (~D-Boy@unaffiliated/cain) Quit (Excess Flood)
[22:24] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:25] * Sonny_Jim (~pi@host31-51-111-223.range31-51.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:25] * Tachyon` is now known as Tach[Eorzea]
[22:28] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[22:28] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[22:28] * Bozza (~Bozza@unaffiliated/bozza) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:30] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[22:31] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:32] * D-Boy (~D-Boy@unaffiliated/cain) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:33] * gbaman (~gbaman@89.185.154.122) Quit ()
[22:37] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:37] * ech0s7 (~ech0s7@host6-157-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
[22:38] * ech0s7 (~ech0s7@host6-157-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:39] * ech0s7 (~ech0s7@host6-157-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) Quit (Client Quit)
[22:41] * teff (~teff@client-82-26-120-254.midd.adsl.virginm.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[22:41] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[22:41] * metaf5 (~metaf5@107.181.166.167) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:43] * utack (~utack@mnch-4d046e2a.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:43] * teff (~teff@client-82-26-120-254.midd.adsl.virginm.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:45] * mgottschlag (~mgottschl@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[22:48] <Sonny_Jim> It's quiet in here nowadays :-(
[22:49] * ech0s7 (~ech0s7@host6-157-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[22:51] <shiftplusone> You missed all the fun
[22:53] <SpeedEvil> Maybe the Pi 2 will make things new again.
[22:55] * darkbasic_ (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[22:58] * blonkel (~asdgasggK@aftr-37-24-150-69.unity-media.net) Quit (Quit: ~ Trillian - www.trillian.im ~)
[22:59] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:01] * ctyler (~chris@142.204.133.11) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[23:02] * mchlkf (~mchlkf@unaffiliated/mchlkf) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[23:02] * mang0 is now known as mang0|AFK
[23:03] * pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) Quit (Quit: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair)
[23:06] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[23:06] * mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:07] * ppq (~ppq@unaffiliated/ppq) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:07] * Tach[Eorzea] is now known as Tachyon`
[23:07] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:08] <chris_99> Is there a Pi 2 in the works?
[23:09] <paul2520> chris_99: the B+ is sort of the Pi 2 (or 3, if you count the model A...)
[23:10] <gadgetoid> So quiet :(
[23:11] <gadgetoid> And yet the Pi is basically my life now!
[23:11] <chris_99> hmm, i was more thinking of something with a new CPU etc
[23:12] <paul2520> gadgetoid: what kinds of things do you do with it?
[23:12] * Gazpaxxo (~bizarro_1@104.Red-83-47-131.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:12] * kij__ (~shinomori@c-76-23-251-139.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:13] * bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@41.Red-88-14-188.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[23:13] <gadgetoid> paul2520: It's my day job, so I make stuff for it!
[23:15] <gadgetoid> Although historically I'm a software guy, only just starting to get into "physical" product development
[23:15] * GentileBen (~RaycisCha@cpc5-lutn10-2-0-cust681.9-3.cable.virginm.net) Quit ()
[23:16] <shiftplusone> gadgetoid, heh, in the same boat here. Amazing what opportunities this little board has created.
[23:16] <gadgetoid> shiftplusone: I heard :D
[23:16] <gadgetoid> Nice one!
[23:17] <gadgetoid> But yeah, it's really shaken the foundations of makerdom, at least in the programming/electronics department
[23:18] * Xano (~bart@ip-80-113-6-162.ip.prioritytelecom.net) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[23:18] * Xano (~bart@ip-80-113-6-162.ip.prioritytelecom.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:18] * snuffeluffegus (~snuff@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:18] * Xano (~bart@ip-80-113-6-162.ip.prioritytelecom.net) Quit (Client Quit)
[23:19] * Keanu73 (~Keanu73@unaffiliated/keanu73) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[23:20] * Xano (~bart@ip-80-113-6-162.ip.prioritytelecom.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:20] <Sonny_Jim> Well, it's given people a Linux based equiv of the Arduino
[23:21] <Sonny_Jim> Actually, not equivalent, but you get what I mean
[23:21] * plugwash (~plugwash@97e5bfdf.skybroadband.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:21] <shiftplusone> We had beagleboards, gumstix and routers for that sort of thing before
[23:21] <shiftplusone> well, I say 'we'. I was only looking at beagleboards wanting one, but not being able to justify the cost.
[23:22] <shiftplusone> and then came the pi
[23:23] <gadgetoid> The Pi was certainly a lot easier to justify, much more promise with not much more cost
[23:23] * roler (~chris@out.mfour.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:23] <plugwash> yeah, the main thing that differentiated the Pi was the pricetag
[23:24] * roler (~chris@out.mfour.com) has left #raspberrypi
[23:24] <shiftplusone> well, and the whole charity side of it
[23:25] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:26] <gadgetoid> Well having a body of people who actually care about documentation, support material, etc is crucial
[23:29] * intothev01d (~intothev0@unaffiliated/intothev01d) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:29] * justinmburrous (~justinmbu@c-73-37-6-91.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[23:30] * NightMonkey (~NightMonk@pdpc/supporter/professional/nightmonkey) Quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
[23:30] * darkavenger_afk is now known as darkavenger
[23:32] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[23:32] * Delboy (~openwrt@89-164-111-134.dsl.iskon.hr) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[23:32] <Sonny_Jim> Never underestimate the power of a good community/documentation to make a product more attractive
[23:33] <gordonDrogon> evening gadgetoid
[23:33] <gadgetoid> Ahoy gordonDrogon!
[23:34] <gordonDrogon> just put an attiny84 on a breadboard...
[23:34] <gordonDrogon> going to program it via my gertduino from the Pi as it has the 5v level shifters on it...
[23:34] * Xano (~bart@ip-80-113-6-162.ip.prioritytelecom.net) Quit (Quit: Xano)
[23:34] <paul2520> gadgetoid: awesome! do you work for the Raspberry Pi foundation?
[23:35] <gadgetoid> paul2520: Nah! I'm a p..p..p..pirate :D
[23:35] <gordonDrogon> Arrr!
[23:35] <gadgetoid> I've been doing lots of Eagle stuff today gordonDrogon :D ( paainful, oh so painful )
[23:36] <paul2520> fantastic
[23:36] <gordonDrogon> a-ha. I've just spun up fritzing :)
[23:36] <paul2520> I'd love to have a job where I work with Pis all day :-)
[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> Meeh
[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> It's just another Linux box
[23:36] * pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> Working with anything as a day job gets a bit dull after a while
[23:36] * Delboy (~openwrt@89-164-111-134.dsl.iskon.hr) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:37] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, go freelance like me...
[23:37] <paul2520> Sonny_Jim: I like to find ways to keep things interesting
[23:37] <plugwash> gadgetoid, sure but those didn't come until after the low price
[23:38] <Sonny_Jim> gordonDrogon: I am at the moment, but tbh it's just a polite way of saying I'm unemployed ;-)
[23:38] <plugwash> gadgetoid, and i'd argue they were a RESULT of the low price
[23:38] * Morgy (~Morgy@cpc7-pool12-2-0-cust69.15-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:38] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, under-employed!
[23:38] <Sonny_Jim> Because I'm registered as self-employed and earned so little this year (in this country, anyway), it looks like I'll have a very small tax bill for the year, which is good!
[23:39] * Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) Quit (Quit: Mikelevel)
[23:39] <gadgetoid> It's all right, we keep it interesting by periodically flooding the lower floors of the office with liquid salt and playing "don't step in the lava"
[23:39] * sphenxes01 (~sphenxes@91-119-85-115.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[23:39] * sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-85-115.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[23:41] <gadgetoid> plugwash: Yeah, the low price certainly helped the Pi gain traction
[23:41] * gordonDrogon sees the sign with changeable numbers: Days since we fried an employee: 001
[23:42] <gadgetoid> Hahahaha! it bugs me that the sign isn't customisable enough
[23:42] * sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-85-115.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:43] * sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-85-115.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
[23:46] <gadgetoid> Dare I ask what wizardry you're performing on the tiny84, gordonDrogon?
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> well I have a button and an RGB LED connected to it, and writing my own I2C driver for it...
[23:47] <plugwash> gordonDrogon, was that a typo or did you really mean fried instead of fired?
[23:47] <gadgetoid> plugwash: Definitely fried
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> plugwash, fried - as in "stood in lava".
[23:47] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: tried to write a soft i2c state machine yesterday, didn't have much time for it
[23:48] <gordonDrogon> gadgetoid, they're weird devices - AVR took perfectly good silicon in the megas, threw it away for the "tinys" and created their universal serial device...
[23:49] * Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:49] <gadgetoid> A button and an LED doesn't need a whole tiny84, could theoretically be done with a smaller IC and some software i2c madness
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> gadgetoid, I know, but I'm thinking of some sort of common platform that could have "stuff" connected to it - say a slider with a single LED for example...
[23:50] <gadgetoid> And yeah the USI is horrible, ugh!
[23:50] <gordonDrogon> temperature sensors, motor controllers, 7-segment displays, stuff like that.
[23:50] * hybr1d8 (~cjd@202.92.67.179) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:50] <gadgetoid> Ah, yes! Offloading some of the.. err.. load
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> small loudspeakers...
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> 32K SPI based RAM chips seem chap enough too.
[23:53] <gordonDrogon> just experimenting, really.
[23:53] <gadgetoid> Experimenting is fun :D
[23:54] * mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[23:56] * dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)

These logs were automatically created by RaspberryPiBot on irc.freenode.net using the Java IRC LogBot.