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IRC Log for 2014-10-01

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[0:03] <taza> I'm looking for a program running inside X (I'm running LXDE) for displaying RSS feeds, weather, etc data
[0:03] <taza> Raspbian
[0:03] <taza> Anyone got good suggestions?
[0:03] <taza> RSS feeds, weather are requirement. Twitter from my Twitter acc (or just certain accounts) would help
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[0:04] <[Saint]> googling LXDE+RSS and LXDE+weather yeilds many results
[0:05] <taza> I'm looking for someone with personal experience.
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[0:06] <taza> Also notable: the content should update without user interaction
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[0:49] <Sonny_Jim> custom browser page?
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[0:54] <taza> Might work, but I'd prefer something a bit more advanced.
[0:54] <taza> I mean, I spose I could install a web server and php and code it in php
[0:54] <Sonny_Jim> No need for a webserver
[0:55] <Sonny_Jim> Just a bit of HTML woud probably do it
[0:55] <taza> Javascript might be able to do it, but I'm unsure.
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[0:59] <Vutral> hm
[0:59] <Vutral> is there some reliable gps shield or so
[0:59] <Vutral> for rpi
[0:59] <Vutral> where i dont have too much work
[1:00] <Sonny_Jim> Any GPS with serial output + a USB serial port
[1:01] <hosler> can anyone recommend a good command line wifi manager? i would like a setup that will auto connect to known networks
[1:01] <[Saint]> wicd
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[1:09] <hosler> oh yeah
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[2:16] <viccuad> hi guys. Is it possible to interface the raspi by the USB-OTG one can use to power it? thanks in advance
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[2:18] <ShorTie> you mean power from the regular usb port and not the micro=usb power port ??
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[2:19] <viccuad> ShorTie: I mean power it by the micro-usb port, and use it to interface with the raspi too
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[2:19] <ShorTie> no, it's just a power port
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[2:20] <viccuad> :(
[2:20] <viccuad> ShorTie: thanks
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[2:38] <red-dragon> hi does the RPi need an os
[2:38] <ShorTie> Yes
[2:38] <red-dragon> ok
[2:38] <red-dragon> can i make a tiny os that does one thing
[2:39] <ShorTie> sure
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[2:41] <[Saint]> You can get away with a bloody minuscule system if you don't need a GUI and replace core functions with a custom busybox that provides only what you require.
[2:42] <hybr1d8> 'buildroot' is handy for that sort of thing
[2:42] <[Saint]> If you need a window manager, base image w/ busybox and openbox works out to be quite small as well.
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[2:44] <[Saint]> There's really not a lot of reason to re-invent the wheel when you can just use raspbian-ua-netinst to provide a foolishly minimal system, or use an Arch base image, though.
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[2:48] <Sonny_Jim> I agree with [Saint]
[2:48] <Sonny_Jim> People get waaaay too hung up on "I need to strip this OS down"
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[2:50] <linuxmint> Hello, does anyone have a link for the best Wi-Fi connection to a Mac and/or Ubuntu computer?
[2:52] <ShorTie> what cha mean by 'best Wi-Fi connection' ??
[2:53] <linuxmint> ShorTie, I've tried an adhoc Wi-Fi connection with the RaPi and Mac, but the RaPi scans and finds the network, but doesn't connect.
[2:53] <ShorTie> N i would guess
[2:54] <linuxmint> ShorTie, I don't need the Mac or Ubuntu to be a Hot Spot for Internet access. I just need the RaPi to transmit data to the computer via Wi-Fi.
[2:54] <ShorTie> sounds like the password is not configured right
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[2:54] <linuxmint> ShorTie, the ad hoc network as no password.
[2:54] <linwiz> linuxmint: check your power supply on the pi. If it doesn't have enough power (2.1A is a good idea) it WILL have the same symptoms
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[2:55] <linuxmint> linwiz, ok? The RaPi is running on a USB from a computer right now.
[2:55] <linwiz> That probably won't have enough juice for a wifi adapter
[2:55] <ShorTie> oh that no good, not enough power
[2:55] <Sonny_Jim> If it's by the computer, just use an ethernet cable would be my suggestion
[2:56] <Sonny_Jim> You'll get much better transfer speeds
[2:56] <linuxmint> linwiz, ok, I'll try a power adapter. The RaPi does scan and find the network though.
[2:56] <linwiz> yes. I had the very same issue with my pi, and I used a smartphone charger and it started working all by itself
[2:56] <ShorTie> what model pi my i ask, B or B+ maybe ??
[2:56] <linwiz> my adapter is 2.1A
[2:57] <linuxmint> Sonny_Jim, yes, could use an Ethernet cable, but less messy with Wi-Fi if it works. Transfer speed not a high priority as only small amounts of data being transferred. Just need the transmission working.
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[2:57] <linuxmint> ShorTie, the older B. I have a B+ here too which I could test if needed.
[2:58] <linuxmint> ShorTie, ok, seems testing with a power adaptor is the best bet, thank you.
[2:58] <linwiz> i think the B+ requires less power, but the wifi adapters are power hungry
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[2:58] <ShorTie> whelp, they have updated the power light on the B+ to indicate low power issues
[2:58] <linuxmint> linwiz, ok, I'll test the B+ with USB and power adaptor too.
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[3:01] <red-dragon> Shouldnt be a wifi problem
[3:01] <red-dragon> I have RPiB
[3:01] <red-dragon> I got 2 wifi cards on usb sometimes i even have BT card plugged in too
[3:01] <red-dragon> no issues
[3:02] <red-dragon> have u assigned an IP to your interface
[3:02] <red-dragon> and a netmask
[3:02] <red-dragon> do that to both
[3:02] <red-dragon> 10.0.0.1/24 and 10.0.0.2/24
[3:03] <linwiz> red-dragon: you power the rpi via your computer's hub port and run all that?
[3:03] <red-dragon> no
[3:03] <red-dragon> I power it from a battery
[3:03] <linwiz> s/hub/usb
[3:03] <red-dragon> solar battery 2500mAh
[3:04] <red-dragon> i got 2
[3:04] <red-dragon> 5.5v output
[3:04] <linwiz> that is 2.5A
[3:04] <red-dragon> I use mine on road
[3:06] <linwiz> linuxmint's issue is probably a power issue, a computer's usb port does not supply anywhere near that power
[3:07] <linwiz> IIR the average is .5a for a computer usb port
[3:07] <linuxmint> red-dragon, the interfaces has #iface default inet dhcp. I haven't set a static IP. Just the default wpa_supplicant and interface settings which work for connecting to a Wi-Fi network for Internet. But Wi-Fi to another computer not working. Looking for a power adaptor to rule out a power issue.
[3:08] <red-dragon> take them of dhcp
[3:08] <red-dragon> and switch to manual
[3:08] <red-dragon> I had an issue like this a while ago
[3:08] <red-dragon> when linking laptop direct to desktop
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[3:09] <linuxmint> red-dragon, ok, well it should connect with DHCP which allows an easier connection to the computer. Then once connected I can change to a static IP (unless you think otherwise).
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[3:11] <red-dragon> seriously i would jus set them both to static
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[3:12] <linuxmint> red-dragon, ok, I'll try RaPi on static, but not sure if Mac 'Create a nework' does that. I'm still figuring the Mac out. I will the implement on an Ubuntu OS.
[3:13] <linuxmint> Well, I have to go get a power supply now as none here.
[3:14] <Sonny_Jim> IIRC, the USB spec states that if you short out the D-/D+ pins it'll switch to charging mode and give you 2A
[3:14] <Sonny_Jim> But implementations vary, no idea if yer standard PC USB port does that
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[3:31] <taza> To my earlier question: Conky
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[3:34] <uniqdom> I'm using a 5v 700mA Sony Ericsson charger as power supply for my RPi. Every time I connect a cheap chinese usb sound card i lose my network connectivity... could this be related to the power supply?
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[3:35] <taza> Definitely.
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[3:35] <taza> That power supply is nowhere near potent enough, but you might need a powered usb hub with cheap chinese crap
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[3:36] <uniqdom> ok... I will try that as I have a powered usb hub here... thanks
[3:36] <taza> That power supply is enough for the A, not enough for the B and hilariously not enough for the B+
[3:36] <uniqdom> :o
[3:36] <uniqdom> ok
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[3:37] <taza> I mean, B/B+ might work fine enough with a powered hub driving everything more power-hungry than a keyboard
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[3:37] <taza> In fact, they probably will be fine
[3:37] <uniqdom> ok
[3:37] <taza> It's not like the Pi itself requires a huge amount of power.
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[4:12] <abnormal> steve_rox, did you find that image of the blown pi?
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[4:15] <Caleo> quick Q: what's the average linux distro (for Pi B+) size in GB?
[4:15] <Caleo> or MB, I suppose
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[4:16] <Caleo> just wondering if a 2GB microsd will be adequate or if I should pick up another
[4:17] <plugwash> You can certainly find systems that will fit on a 2GB card but the raspberry pi foundation raspbian image won't fit. That needs a minimum of a 4GB card and even that is tight.
[4:17] <aditsu> hi, I just bought a B+ with a clear case, but I'm having a hard time putting the Pi in the case.. could someone help me?
[4:18] <knob> aditsu, are you 100% positive the case is for a Rpi B+ model?
[4:18] <plugwash> If buying new cards I'd suggest buying 8GB cards.
[4:18] <Caleo> plugwash: alright, that's basically what I was looking for.. thanks
[4:18] <aditsu> knob: yes, 100.1% :)
[4:18] <knob> Hmm... then... jam her in there!
[4:18] <aditsu> the plugs and cutouts match well
[4:18] <aditsu> I'm afraid it will break if I jam it
[4:19] <knob> Go for it man... go for it :)
[4:19] <Caleo> we're using a rPi B+ on our baja car for sensor reading/analysis
[4:19] <abnormal> Caleo, http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=64231&p=492199
[4:19] <abnormal> where did you buy the case?
[4:20] <aditsu> abnormal: me? http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Model-Plus-Clear-Case/dp/B00LAA91R2/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1412123234&sr=1-5
[4:21] <aditsu> knob: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhfFOqat5N0 :)
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[4:21] <knob> aditsu, yeahh!!!
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[4:23] <Caleo> I love how there's only like a $5 difference between 16GB and 32GB microsd
[4:24] <abnormal> aditsu, just do your best... but don't damage anything on the pi... an Adafruit case would have been a much better case.
[4:24] <Caleo> does the Pi B+ have any issues with microsd UHS-1 cards?
[4:26] <Caleo> http://slickdeals.net/f/7234238-3-pack-16gb-samsung-class-6-microsdhc-memory-cards-15-with-free-shipping-5-card
[4:26] <Caleo> lol, nice
[4:26] <abnormal> Caleo, http://www.raspberry-pi.co.uk/2012/06/07/compatible-sd-cards/
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[4:27] <aditsu> abnormal: adafruit seems expensive
[4:28] <abnormal> yes and very effective...
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[4:29] <aditsu> ooh it went in!
[4:29] <aditsu> (that's what she said)
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[4:30] <Caleo> that's what I was about to say
[4:30] <Caleo> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M9ZW6QU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1MNWP2GQV1Q6J
[4:30] <Caleo> I'm about to grab that case for mine
[4:30] <aditsu> it took a couple of screwdrivers and a well thought-out plan
[4:30] <Caleo> I like that thinness to it
[4:32] <abnormal> aditsu, https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi-cases
[4:32] <aditsu> well, I already have one now :p
[4:33] <abnormal> yeh I bought a Candomfoss one that was shipped from UK... real nice case...
[4:34] <abnormal> I like the multicomp ones best from Element14
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[4:38] <aditsu> awesome, I closed the case and it looks fine now :)
[4:39] <aditsu> just need a bootable image and some peripherals :p I'll set it up later
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[4:41] <abnormal> aditsu, the best wifi is the Adafruit one that looks like a USB dongle, not the mini one...
[4:42] <Sonny_Jim> define 'best'?
[4:42] <abnormal> experience
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[4:42] <Sonny_Jim> heh
[4:43] <Sonny_Jim> All the wifi dongles I've tried have performed pretty much the same
[4:43] <abnormal> the WiPi ones suck
[4:44] <abnormal> 2 of the 3 failed.
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[4:44] <abnormal> sent them back to Element14
[4:45] <abnormal> then got the Adafruit ones and work a lot better...
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[4:46] <niston> hi abnormal :D
[4:47] <abnormal> hi there niston
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[6:08] <Deepfriedice> Hey, I'm having some weird issues with GPIO interrupt based input on a revision 1 model B running Raspbian.
[6:09] <Deepfriedice> When pulling both GPIO17 and GPIO18 down (with there internal pullups set to up), I'm getting spammed lows on GPIO17 and never seeing the high from releasing it again.
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[6:10] <Deepfriedice> Wait, that's not quite right. I'm not seeing the high from releasing GPIO17 until I have released GPIO18 as well.
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[6:11] <Deepfriedice> Does anyone know where I should try and start looking to track down the cause of this?
[6:12] <Sonny_Jim> How are you reading the GPIO?
[6:12] <Deepfriedice> I'm using the RPIO python library from Python2
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[6:13] <Deepfriedice> Normally I'd expect that was the source fo the issue. but with the voltage reversed (so internal pulldownsm, switch connects to 3V3) the issue doesn't appear.
[6:14] <Sonny_Jim> Sounds like a wiring issue
[6:14] <Deepfriedice> Probably.
[6:14] <Sonny_Jim> When you say "released", what do you mean?
[6:14] <Deepfriedice> Switch open.
[6:15] <Sonny_Jim> You have two switches, one connected to GPIO17 and one to GPIO18?
[6:15] <Deepfriedice> Yes.
[6:16] <Sonny_Jim> Sounds like whatever is wired into GPIO18 is also wired into GPIO17 by accident
[6:16] <Sonny_Jim> There is a command line util you can use to rule out software problems
[6:17] <Deepfriedice> There aren't a lot of wires on that part of the breadboard, but I'll double check.
[6:17] <_inky_> Hi, sorry if this is a basic question, I haven't really played with raspberry pi before and have a limited knowledge of linux. I've just got a B+ and installed UltraSlim 1.6 which boots into EmulationStation. I can run XBMC and LXDE but when I slide left or right there are only a couple of free games but none of the emulators are showing up. I thought the emulators were prepackaged, do I have to install them seperately?
[6:18] <Sonny_Jim> Normally you have to add in emulators, but this sounds like a question where you might get a better answer from whoever produces the UltraSlim distro
[6:18] <Sonny_Jim> s/emulators/roms
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[6:19] <_inky_> Okay, cheers
[6:20] <Deepfriedice> Wait, I messed up.
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[6:20] <Deepfriedice> It's GPIO21 and GPIO22, not 17&18
[6:22] <Deepfriedice> Anyway, the command line tool I just used didn't show any issues, but It's polling the pins rather than waiting for interrupts.
[6:23] <Sonny_Jim> Could you post the code you are using somewhere?
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[6:24] <Deepfriedice> Okay, But I doubt my code is the issue - the code is symmetrical across the two pins, but the issue isn't.
[6:24] <Deepfriedice> Give me a moment to strip it down a bit.
[6:28] <Sonny_Jim> So if you disconnect one of the switches, it works?
[6:29] <Deepfriedice> The issue is with the interaction of the two switches, I can't test it with just one.
[6:31] <Sonny_Jim> So what is the function of the two switches?
[6:31] <Deepfriedice> They're just momentary switches,
[6:32] <Deepfriedice> One second.
[6:32] <Sonny_Jim> What I mean is, what does switch 1 do and what does switch 2 do?
[6:33] <Deepfriedice> Hold up.
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[6:35] <Deepfriedice> My simplified code seems to be working fine.
[6:35] <Deepfriedice> So, I guess this was a program issue after all.
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[7:31] <[Saint]> Uncovered a _bunch_ a flac rips from my prolific fast.fm days.
[7:31] <[Saint]> *last.fm
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[7:33] <[Saint]> Mostly 90's rap...dunno what kick I was on that day, they all seem to have the same last modified time.
[7:33] <[Saint]> Probable reminiscing.
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[10:07] <RahulAN> Hii all
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[10:08] <RahulAN> I am trying to send file from one pi to another via BT bluez-simple-agent is showing error on pairing
[10:08] <RahulAN> any suggestion what to do
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[10:13] <RahulAN> how to send a file by bluetooth?
[10:13] <RahulAN> to another Rpi
[10:13] <RahulAN> via terminal
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[10:28] <Sonny_Jim> RahulAN: The error message would help
[10:28] <RahulAN> Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationRejected: Authentication Rejected
[10:29] <RahulAN> Sonny_Jim, it is not athunticating with 0000 and nor with 1234
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[10:31] <Sonny_Jim> Did you follow a guide?
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[10:32] <RahulAN> yes
[10:32] <Sonny_Jim> Which one?
[10:32] <RahulAN> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/bluetooth#GNOME_Bluetooth
[10:32] <RahulAN> it was good for sending to mobile
[10:32] <Sonny_Jim> You are using archlinux?
[10:32] <RahulAN> but is not working for raspberry
[10:33] <RahulAN> no raspbian
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[10:34] <Sonny_Jim> What command line are you typing that produces the error message?
[10:35] <RahulAN> bluez-simple-agent hci0 <mac addr of another dev>
[10:37] <Sonny_Jim> Have you enabled bluetooth on the second Pi?
[10:37] <Sonny_Jim> ie Can you send a file from the second Pi to your phone?
[10:38] <RahulAN> yes to phone it is finly working
[10:38] <RahulAN> as there we get a msg window for pairing
[10:39] <Sonny_Jim> On both Pis?
[10:39] <RahulAN> yes
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[10:41] <Sonny_Jim> Are you sure you are using the correct MAC?
[10:42] <Sonny_Jim> Also, why are you using bluez-simple-agent?
[10:42] <RahulAN> for paiing to it
[10:42] <RahulAN> instead what to use?
[10:42] <Sonny_Jim> Yes, but from what I read, bluez-simple-agent is outdated
[10:42] <RahulAN> i used same command for phones
[10:42] <Sonny_Jim> Nowhere in the guide you linked to does it say to bluez-simple-agent
[10:43] <Sonny_Jim> Have you started the bluetooth service?
[10:44] <RahulAN> http://codepad.org/hkvphs1V
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[10:44] <RahulAN> Yes it do not say but in previous project i learnt that i need to pair it
[10:44] <Sonny_Jim> *sigh*
[10:44] <RahulAN> this is my config file
[10:45] <Sonny_Jim> Is there a bluetooth service running on the second Pi?
[10:45] <RahulAN> yes hcitool is working on both
[10:45] <Sonny_Jim> That's not what asked
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[10:46] <Sonny_Jim> For the Pi to be able to receive an incoming connection, there needs to be a service running on it
[10:46] <RahulAN> you mean to ask status of service bluetooth status
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[10:47] <RahulAN> both are running
[10:49] <Sonny_Jim> Both are running what?
[10:49] <Sonny_Jim> does "ps fuxaww|grep bluetooth" display anything?
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[11:03] <iPolto> hi is any one success to connect 3g usb dongle on rpi-B without power usb hub?
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[11:05] <ShorTie> on a B+ it could be done, but as far as a B goes it is recommended to have wifi on a powered hub
[11:05] <aditsu> hi, what's a good cheap wifi adapter for the Pi, easily recognized by the kernel?
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[11:06] <ShorTie> any that have linux drivers should work just fine, but don't forget you get what you pay for
[11:06] <shiftplusone> aditsu, the edimax nano one
[11:07] <aditsu> sometimes you can pay a lot and get crap :p
[11:07] <ShorTie> true
[11:08] <iPolto> so B+ USB give current more than model B which can power 3g usb?is that true?
[11:09] <ShorTie> yes, the B+ can provide more usb current if the power supply can handle it
[11:09] <aditsu> shiftplusone: do you know what driver it uses?
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[11:10] <aditsu> I was hoping for cheaper, but I guess that will do
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[11:14] <Sonny_Jim> What's the price difference between the B and B+?
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[11:16] <gordonDrogon> 0
[11:17] <ShorTie> i believe the B is going for more then the B+
[11:17] <gordonDrogon> although you can buy B's cheaper on ebay now.
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[11:17] <Sonny_Jim> Oh
[11:17] <Sonny_Jim> I guess aditsu was talking about the wifi dongle then
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[11:19] <aditsu> yes I was
[11:19] <aditsu> why would the B cost more?!
[11:19] <aditsu> the B+ is just better
[11:19] <Sonny_Jim> Err, I didn't say it was
[11:20] <Sonny_Jim> I asked what the difference in price was, not that the B was more expensive
[11:20] <aditsu> ShorTie said
[11:20] <Sonny_Jim> Ah
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[11:29] <ShorTie> because of supply and demand, alot of the old boards will not fit on a B+, so a B is a special demand that will cause price to increase
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[11:33] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[11:33] <Sonny_Jim> Nah
[11:33] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, I'd agree with you if there wasn't about a million Pi Bs out there
[11:35] <ShorTie> what does having a million out there have to do with the supply of new one's ??
[11:36] <Sonny_Jim> Well, just that if there wasn't so many Bs, then people might have trouble getting hold of them
[11:36] <Sonny_Jim> As it is, my guess is that there's plenty of people willing to sell their Bs to get a B+
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[11:41] <evil_dan2wik> if a company made 2000 units of something for the B and they only had 100 units of B left, they would probably panic a bit.
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[11:41] <gordonDrogon> that's why they're still making B's - for a litmited period of time.
[11:44] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah I never expected corporate customers to like them so much
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[11:44] <shiftplusone> aditsu, was afk.
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[11:45] <shiftplusone> rtl8192cu
[11:45] <shiftplusone> and the chipset is RTL8188CUS
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[11:46] <aditsu> thanks
[11:46] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, I hate that chipset
[11:46] <evil_dan2wik> It never seems to work right.
[11:47] <shiftplusone> the best one in the testing I've done
[11:47] <evil_dan2wik> mainly the RTL818* chipsets.
[11:47] <shiftplusone> (juding by bandwidth, cpu load and reliability)
[11:47] <Sonny_Jim> So is the DSI connector usable yet?
[11:47] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, no.
[11:47] <Sonny_Jim> Bah
[11:48] <evil_dan2wik> People are the Pi foundation need to make it work
[11:48] <evil_dan2wik> or remove it
[11:48] <evil_dan2wik> at*
[11:48] <Sonny_Jim> Should've left that off and spent the change on a decent voltage regulator
[11:48] <Sonny_Jim> (grumble grumble(
[11:48] <shiftplusone> remove it? that's a ridiculous suggestion.
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[11:49] <Sonny_Jim> How so?
[11:49] <ShorTie> pssst, they did upgrade the power circuit
[11:49] <Sonny_Jim> on the B+?
[11:49] <ShorTie> Yes
[11:50] <Sonny_Jim> What I meant was that during the design on the B, if they knew the DSI connector couldn't be used for anything, then really they shouldn't of bothered putting it on the board
[11:50] <Sonny_Jim> But hindsight is always 20/20
[11:50] <shiftplusone> What reason could you possible have to remove the DSI connector? Even if the display is not out right now and gets cancelled (it won't), why on earth would you want to remove the possibility for future expansion.
[11:50] <shiftplusone> *possibly
[11:51] <Sonny_Jim> Well, it's been what, 2 years? And it still is as useless as windscreen wipers on a submarine
[11:51] <aditsu> you mean the connector is functional, but there's no display to connect to it?
[11:51] <aditsu> I thought I've seen DSI displays online somewhere
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[11:52] <Sonny_Jim> From what I remember, Broadcom needed to release some information for people to be able to use it
[11:52] <shiftplusone> There's a display, it's just in the process of getting out the door, which is a lengthy process.
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[11:52] <aditsu> oh, driver issues?
[11:52] <Sonny_Jim> Shame, as I have a couple of N900 screens which I'm fairly sure are DSI
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[11:58] <shiftplusone> aditsu, no driver issues for the official display. It's just that people can't currently drive dsi from the linux kernel to support their own displays.
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[12:01] <Sonny_Jim> But isn't the problem that they can't write a kernel driver without documentation from Broadcom?
[12:02] <shiftplusone> aye, that's what I meant by "people can't currently drive dsi from the linux kernel"
[12:02] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
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[12:03] <evil_dan2wik> Why isn't broadcom providing documentation?
[12:03] <Sonny_Jim> Because Broadcom
[12:03] <shiftplusone> no, not because broadcom.
[12:04] <shiftplusone> It's in the pipeline too.
[12:04] <ShorTie> so it sortta sounds like it is a Broadcom issue holding back the release of the display
[12:04] <shiftplusone> Because law, beurocracy and certain people getting in the way.
[12:04] <ShorTie> not the foundation so much
[12:04] <Sonny_Jim> I thought Broadcom made you sign a very restrictive NDA to get that documentation, which would mean that you wouldn't be able to publish the resulting code as open source?
[12:05] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, no, it's really just the process of jumping through the legal and manufacturing hurdles.
[12:06] <shiftplusone> Sonny_Jim, eh?
[12:06] <shiftplusone> I haven't signed anything from broadcom O_o
[12:06] <Sonny_Jim> I didn't say you had
[12:06] <shiftplusone> ah, okay
[12:07] <ShorTie> with as many displays out there for this and that, i can not see many manufacturing hurdles, but legal issues could raise above mount everest, lol.
[12:07] <Sonny_Jim> But I was under the impression that to be able to access the the docs that would help with writing the DSI driver, you would have to sign an NDA with Broadcom which would stop you from licensing the resultant code as open source
[12:08] <shiftplusone> Yeah, maybe there's truth to that. I thought you were referring to my work (which is DSI-related, but not relevant to the discussion)
[12:08] <Sonny_Jim> Ah ok, I understand your defensive posture now
[12:08] <evil_dan2wik> why not just assassinate the broadcom people and then take their documentation?
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[12:10] <shiftplusone> Sonny_Jim, defensive of the foundation? O_o
[12:11] <Sonny_Jim> Well, you seemed to be reading into what I was saying in a strange way
[12:11] * shiftplusone shrugs
[12:11] <Sonny_Jim> when all I was trying to point out that the docs for the DSI connector weren't easily available right now
[12:11] <shiftplusone> yeah
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[13:52] <Pdmct> Hi I am having trouble getting a 3g modem working with a RPi B+ (latest Raspbian version 9/9/14) -- the modem seems to be working (ie it says that it has a 3G data connection) but fails to register on the network and get an IP address. Its a Telstra 3G+Wifi Modem(ZTE MF70) which creates an eth1 interface (rather than a serial connection). Does anyone have
[13:52] <Pdmct> any ideas ?? Thx
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[13:54] <shiftplusone> sounds like a configuration problem which I don't think anyone can help with
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[13:55] <shiftplusone> have you configured it to use dhcp or settings given by the provider?
[13:55] <_inky_> I'm having trouble getting my wifi adapter to work on Raspbian. On one SD card I have OpenELEC which recognises the adapter and connects to my network easily. On another SD card I have UltraSlim 1.6 (Raspbian based) and although lsusb shows a recognises "ID 2001:3314 D-Link Corp." I can't get connect to the network. I can't even connect via ethernet cable. Can anyone give me an idea what I should try? Is there a way I can copy s
[13:57] <Pdmct> shiftplusone: I think it is configured to use DHCP and it is supposed to expose a config webapp on 192.168.0.1 but there is no IP assigned to the eth1 interface so I can't get to it. It works fine on my mac
[13:57] <shiftplusone> _inky_, lsusb doesn't tell you anything in that case. What does ifconfig -a show?
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[13:58] <shiftplusone> Pdmct, not sure how that would work, but it sounds like it needs a static IP. Do you have a manual?
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[13:59] <Pdmct> shiftplusone: yes but it doesn't give any info on configuration its designed to magically work on win/mac devices
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[14:03] <_inky_> shiftplusone:
[14:03] <_inky_> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr b8:27:eb:4c:a9:8e UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 METRIC:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0,0 B) TX bytes:0 (0,0 B) lo Link encap: Local Loopback LOOPBACK MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collis
[14:04] <shiftplusone> _inky_, so there's no module loaded. Pastebin the output of dmesg
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[14:09] <_inky_> shiftplusone: http://pastebin.com/S3VmZKkK
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[14:12] <shiftplusone> needs 8812au, by the sounds of it... hang on
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[14:13] <shiftplusone> Know how to compile kernel modules? https://github.com/gnab/rtl8812au
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[14:15] <NGC3982> Hi.
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[14:17] <_inky_> I'm afraid not, I'm very new to linux. I'll give it a whirl though, thanks!
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[14:31] <sliddjur> Is there a raspbian img without X server?
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[14:32] <sliddjur> its so big img.. 934 MB?!
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[14:32] <azizLIGHT> How to update fully
[14:34] <shiftplusone> sliddjur, look up raspbian ua netinst
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[14:35] <shiftplusone> azizLIGHT, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, and optionally rpi-update.
[14:36] <azizLIGHT> Here goes
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[14:45] <sliddjur> shiftplusone: thanks. will do you know if ssh will be enabled by default? i dont have a monitor for this one :)
[14:45] <sliddjur> -will
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[14:46] <shiftplusone> yup
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[15:03] <_inky_> shiftplusone Sorry, I'm not sure if I'm on the right track here. I downloaded the rtl8812au files and transfered them to the pi, when I type make it says: /home/tm-pc-vm1x64/GitHub/linux no such file or directory. Should I be changing the location in the make file to somewhere else?
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[15:04] <shiftplusone> sorry, there's a bit more involved than I can get into right now
[15:04] <shiftplusone> At work... doing work stuff.
[15:04] <_inky_> No worries
[15:07] <shana> _inky_: if there's a configure script, you should run that
[15:07] <shana> otherwise, something is probably hardcoded
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[15:10] <shiftplusone> shana, nope, that's not how it works.
[15:10] <shana> I'm just guessing, have no clue what he's building
[15:11] <_inky_> Damn I saw a config file and thought I was in luck, thanks anyway!
[15:11] <shiftplusone> _inky_, out of tree module compile will give you something useful on google.
[15:11] <shana> ah, it's a module
[15:11] <_inky_> Thankyou
[15:11] <shiftplusone> but you need to know how to compile the kernel itself to get something useful out of that documentation
[15:11] <shiftplusone> and how to read the makefile
[15:12] <shiftplusone> and you'll probably find that doing it from the pi is going to take forever... so you'll need to know how to cross-compile a kernel.
[15:12] <shiftplusone> or... use the raspbian kernel rather than the foundation kernel
[15:12] <shiftplusone> that comes with headers
[15:15] <shana> maybe http://blog.melroy.org/2014/cross-compiling-linux-driver-raspberry-pi/ will be helpful
[15:15] <shana> (google translate makes a good job of it)
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[15:16] <shiftplusone> well, half of the words are english-like...
[15:16] <shana> yes :)
[15:17] <shiftplusone> skimmed through it... yes, it's a very good tutorial
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[15:21] <c0rnel> hello
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[15:22] <c0rnel> please. add in the faq or in the first noobs page the info related to choosing the video output
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[15:51] <_inky_> shiftplusone and shana, thanks for your help! I've got a bit of reading to do by the looks of it. I think I may be on to a precompiled module, just waiting on a forum reply so here's hoping.
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[16:05] <akamez> 4/who
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[16:06] <shiftplusone> *4/whom
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[16:35] <RayS> getting really crappy wifi on my pi, long ping times or worse (network unreachable)
[16:35] <RayS> any ideas on how to boost it?
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[16:36] <NedScott> is it disconnecting or just not responding?
[16:36] <RayS> I'm using a Edimax Tech 802.11n (Realtek) usb wifi adapter
[16:37] <NedScott> could be that whatever is happening on the Pi is using a lot of CPU power, and not leaving a lot left for network
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[16:42] <RayS> its idle, load is 0.01
[16:42] <RayS> the ping times are all over the map
[16:42] <RayS> or as I said, or its not able to reach the network
[16:42] <RayS> my laptop next to the pi is just fine.
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[16:56] <shiftplusone> sounds like a signal strength/quality issue
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[17:54] <RayS> shiftplusone: seems to work ok on my latpop...
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[19:06] <topi`> I got a RS232 level shifter (5V <> 3.3V) to my RPi, and it seems to work, I connected it to my server's RS232 port
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[19:07] <topi`> however, the weird thing is, the server's seeing lots of SysRq key activations coming from RPi side. Probably line noise, what might be the cause for this? Bad level shifter hardware? (it's a MAX3232 chip)
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[19:13] <ctyler> topi`, There's no ASCII code for SysRq, so I assume you are getting serial BREAKs (http://ltxfaq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/736/~/what-is-a-serial-break%3F)? If so, really bad line noise or a loose connection in your circuit somewhere.
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[19:31] <JohnnyBitcoin> So I bought a 3.2 inch tft display for my raspberry pi, but I'm not sure how to get it to display things i want. The screen came with not much instruction to go on.
[19:32] <pksato> Is a RPi compatible display?
[19:32] <JohnnyBitcoin> it came with an unmarked dvd that had a raspbian image preloaded with the tft drivers.
[19:32] <pksato> or you buy some randon?
[19:32] <JohnnyBitcoin> yes
[19:32] <ShorTie> got a link maybe ??
[19:32] <JohnnyBitcoin> it plugs right into the gpio pins.
[19:33] <JohnnyBitcoin> the screen works just fine, i just have no idea how to get it to display custom stuff
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> does it work as the normal console?
[19:33] <JohnnyBitcoin> one sec
[19:34] <JohnnyBitcoin> with the custome image, it boots right up to xwindows
[19:34] <JohnnyBitcoin> this is the screen
[19:34] <JohnnyBitcoin> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MVWR404/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[19:35] <mgottschlag> well, you could just write a fullscreen program, with SDL or some other 2D graphics library
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[19:35] <mgottschlag> that's basically the only way if it is configured for X11
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> looks like it.
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> You could (and one day I'll try this myself!) install my RTB interpreter and run that full-screen to get graphics from a BASIC (ish) program...
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[19:37] <JohnnyBitcoin> I basically want to bind the buttons on the side to display certain log files.
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[19:37] <mgottschlag> the CD seems to include datasheets
[19:37] <gordonDrogon> you can probably do that from RTB - but you'll need to write the program to do it...
[19:37] <mgottschlag> so something there should tell you how the buttons are connected
[19:37] <gordonDrogon> or look at PYthon using the PyGame library.
[19:38] <JohnnyBitcoin> can you point me to some example code?
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> at the simplest, put it into text mode (you ought to be able to exit X to the text screen) then write a script to check the buttons and just cat or less the log-files...
[19:38] <JohnnyBitcoin> I don't know how to tell my program to output to the screen
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[19:38] <mgottschlag> JohnnyBitcoin: well, do you know any programming language, and if, which one?
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> e.g. a bash script using the GPIO program from wiringPi to read the buttons...
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[19:39] <JohnnyBitcoin> i can get by with most object oriented languages
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[19:39] <gordonDrogon> Python is is then...
[19:39] <JohnnyBitcoin> yes i prefer python
[19:40] <DoctorBTC> JohnnyBitcoin: don't know if this helps, but i just installed the 2.8 tft from adafruit
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[19:41] <DoctorBTC> luckily, they have a script to make is work with raspbian
[19:44] <JohnnyBitcoin> I have my tft working with raspbian- it currently displays the desktop. I just need some sort of foundation to get started writing my own code.
[19:44] <JohnnyBitcoin> I'm not sure where to start with this thing
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[19:48] <DoctorBTC> JohnnyBitcoin: this is a good start for how to use GPIO for buttons>> http://makezine.com/projects/tutorial-raspberry-pi-gpio-pins-and-python/
[19:50] <JohnnyBitcoin> AWESOME!!!
[19:50] <JohnnyBitcoin> Thanks man!
[19:50] <DoctorBTC> putting images to the display you should check out some pygame projects that use the TFT
[19:50] <DoctorBTC> np :)
[19:50] <JohnnyBitcoin> will do
[19:52] <DoctorBTC> feel free to pm me... i'm learning by doing as well...
[19:52] <JohnnyBitcoin> thanks
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[19:55] <taza> Has Bitcoin becoming forever unprofitable lowered the amount of silly rigs here?
[19:56] <DoctorBTC> rpi is a great controller for mining rigs... save the planet!
[19:56] <taza> Heh.
[19:57] <taza> Save the planet: Don't take part in Tulip-inspired Red Queen's Races.
[19:58] <DoctorBTC> legacy banking requires more energy than the new digital currencies being developed, i think
[19:58] <taza> At the moment, yes. For the amount of people served, nowhere even close.
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[19:58] <taza> And the digital currencies are stillborn anyway
[19:58] <DoctorBTC> evolvers gotta evolve....
[19:59] <DoctorBTC> wow... you sure like metaphors(?)
[19:59] <taza> This would assume Bitcoins take useful work.
[19:59] <taza> And that wealth is its own thing, as opposed to a representation of useful labor and materials.
[20:00] <DoctorBTC> trustless transfer of value/data between two parties == useful
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[20:00] <taza> There's no value there, and we can trustlessly transfer data without a Red Queen's Race running it.
[20:00] <DoctorBTC> what is this race you keep mentioning? you a racist?
[20:01] <taza> I guess I'm a raceist, because I prefer the Olympics over any Red Queen scenario.
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[20:01] <DoctorBTC> nice :P
[20:02] <taza> I mean, people actually dumb enough to believe Bitcoin's going anywhere but dead after Dogecoin and Magic the Gathering Online Exchange... well, they're irredeemable.
[20:03] <taza> Meaningless tokens, because eventually the currency's value is determined by the authority backing it.
[20:04] <taza> I mean, economics was already pretty clear on it, but Bitcoin is a nice compressed example of economics. Now if we could just shut all those mining rigs down, we've got enough problems with power as is.
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[20:04] * DoctorBTC wants to take the bait... must resist
[20:04] <JohnnyBitcoin> The only way bitcoin is going to die is if there is a major flaw in the network that disrupts the trust in transactions.
[20:04] <taza> What bait?
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[20:05] <JohnnyBitcoin> that is not something that seems likely
[20:05] <taza> Bitcoin's value and volume are both on the long trip down to nowhere.
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[20:05] <JohnnyBitcoin> not in the immediate future anyway
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[20:06] <taza> Been ever since MTGO Exchange. Now all it'll take is a BitPay problem to end it then and there.
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[20:06] <JohnnyBitcoin> need i remind you that bitcoin is down 75% after rising 1000%+
[20:07] <taza> No, actually, it rose an infinity in percentages.
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[20:08] <taza> Because it was worthless and it'll return to worthless as the influx of new people dies down.
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[20:08] <JohnnyBitcoin> not gonna happen
[20:08] <taza> Already happening.
[20:08] <taza> Bitcoin was always a bad idea as a currency.
[20:09] <taza> Wasting electricity isn't useful work to base an economy around.
[20:09] <DoctorBTC> what do you recommend?
[20:10] <taza> Studying economics.
[20:10] <JohnnyBitcoin> what you fail to see is bitcoin's intrinsic value
[20:10] <taza> There is none.
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[20:10] <JohnnyBitcoin> it's value stems from its network
[20:10] <taza> The network is worthless.
[20:11] <JohnnyBitcoin> obviously not
[20:11] <taza> It uses way too much electricity, it can't scale and it isn't producing any useful work.
[20:11] <JohnnyBitcoin> the blockchain isn't useful work?
[20:11] <taza> It really isn't.
[20:12] <JohnnyBitcoin> actually it is. You need to do more research.
[20:12] <taza> Then enlighten me
[20:12] <JohnnyBitcoin> i havent the time
[20:12] <taza> Or the arguments
[20:12] <JohnnyBitcoin> whatever dude
[20:12] <DoctorBTC> i only like my economics taught via rap battles....
[20:13] <DoctorBTC> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk
[20:13] <JohnnyBitcoin> keep on hating
[20:13] <taza> The blockchain is meaningless compared to the amount of energy it uses, and everything it does could be done - is done - better via centralized systems.
[20:13] <JohnnyBitcoin> you make me want to puke
[20:13] <DoctorBTC> taza is cool with centralized systems and 'trusted' third parties...
[20:13] <taza> You may not trust centralized systems, in which case your only other option for an actual medium of exchange is items with intrinsic value.
[20:13] <taza> Commodities.
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[20:14] <DoctorBTC> commodities don't work in digital environment to well
[20:14] <DoctorBTC> *too
[20:14] <taza> All wealth gains its value from the work or the commodities backing it.
[20:14] <DoctorBTC> a scarce cryptographically secured resources seems like a better device
[20:14] <taza> You need to either trust the second party or a third party anyway.
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[20:14] <taza> It's not backed by anything.
[20:15] <JohnnyBitcoin> I much rather trust bitcoin's block chain
[20:15] <xmanmonk> Just dropped in and there seems to be a lot of anger in here about finance. Thought I was on the raspberrypi channel.
[20:15] <JohnnyBitcoin> its backed by the hashing power of the network
[20:15] <taza> The organizations are composed of people; the work of those people is what's valuable in the first place.
[20:15] <DoctorBTC> taza> All wealth gains its value from the work <<<< bitcoin uses a proof of work
[20:16] <JohnnyBitcoin> if you think that is worthless then you don't fully understand cryptos
[20:16] <taza> Bitcoin uses a proof of work; however, the work is worthless.
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[20:16] <taza> Ergo, bitcoin's intrinsic value is equal to that work's value; zero.
[20:16] <DoctorBTC> that's like saying the CC company that validates the funds are spendable is worthless too
[20:16] <taza> Nobody can use the products of that work.
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[20:17] <DoctorBTC> taza, i think you are living in the past
[20:17] <taza> Yes; also, the future.
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[20:17] <taza> We've seen this same scenario play out dozens of times by now.
[20:17] <DoctorBTC> decentralized systems win every time (over time)
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[20:17] <taza> Decentralized systems have literally never won once in hundreds of years.
[20:18] <taza> And they never will.
[20:19] <taza> As soon as the growth stops, the value starts creeping down. And it'll stay there, permanently.
[20:19] <JohnnyBitcoin> what decentralized system from hundreds of years ago are you comparing to bitcoin?
[20:19] <DoctorBTC> nature
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[20:20] <taza> You'll say the cryptographic security makes bitcoin different.
[20:20] <taza> Whereas it's a backdrop to the point that bitcoin is worth anything only because people believe it is, and it has no centralized authority backing that value.
[20:20] <DoctorBTC> take the central out of centralization, and you will get what nature produces
[20:21] <DoctorBTC> money is whatever we say it is. it has value because we say so
[20:21] <taza> I think you'd be happier with just what nature produces.
[20:21] <DoctorBTC> lol... but i need my MTV!
[20:21] <taza> Go somewhere with no government-built electric grid or roads. Or antibiotics.
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[20:21] <DoctorBTC> ok... i have to take a break. bbiab
[20:22] <taza> I mean, I suppose you could call making your own antibiotics cheating, but I'll allow it.
[20:22] <DoctorBTC> gotta get back to trading leveraged commodity futures
[20:22] <taza> On the upside, bitcoin will never be relevant again.
[20:22] <JohnnyBitcoin> yes, and i've got some programming to do
[20:22] <SpeedEvil> The only currency that ever matters is young women.
[20:23] <taza> Since it won't reach the manipulated highs of the mtgox problem, and thus it was killed off by one brave French samurai.
[20:23] <taza> (Which means people won't get in in numbers enough to prop up the value.)
[20:23] <taza> SpeedEvil: Where I appreciate young women, I wouldn't ever treat them as currency.
[20:24] <taza> And honestly, I could do with more euros and dollars even with all the young women about.
[20:24] <taza> I mean, sure, I'd take gold or bitcoins too, but I'd just trade them for euros or dollars anyway. Or possibly land, for big enough sums.
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[20:25] <taza> Maybe buy a farm or two. Now food, there's something that will continue to have value.
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[21:14] <basss> hello, i'm trying to install archlinux on my raspberry pi but am worried my wifi usb might not work since it required the wpasupplicants from raspbian. is there any similar package i can install from arch ?
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[21:18] <arza> wpa_supplicant
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[21:28] <shiftplusone> why would it require wpa_supplicant *from raspbian* rather than just.... wpa_supplicant?
[21:32] <basss> shiftplusone: it's available on arch as well ?
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[21:34] <shiftplusone> it's a generic package. You'll find that all the major distros have the essentials.
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[21:50] * NedScott offloads his extra Pis on ebay
[21:50] <NedScott> I can't believe what some other people are trying to sell Pis for
[21:50] <NedScott> $40-50 for a B+, come on
[21:53] <linwiz> NedScott: have you seen what people are trying to sell twinkies for on ebay?
[21:53] <basss> shiftplusone: oh okat, thanks !
[21:53] <linwiz> people will sell anything to make a buck.
[21:53] <basss> okay*
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[21:57] <CoJaBo> NedScott: B+s are about $40 shipped anyway :P
[21:58] <NedScott> if it includes shipping it isn't bad, but in the US you can get it for $36 shipped from newegg
[21:58] <NedScott> :)
[21:58] <NedScott> in any case, I sold mine for $33
[21:59] <NedScott> which is basically what I paid for them because I somehow used a coupon on my MCMelectronics order
[22:00] <NedScott> they came with NOOBs mSD cards, but I took them out and just listed the Pi by itself, so for the cost to ship and ebay fee, I got an SD card
[22:00] <NedScott> I had it listed with the noobs card and for about $40, but no one would bite
[22:00] <CoJaBo> NedScott: ..where?
[22:01] <NedScott> so I figured it was worth the $7 to just keep the card
[22:01] <NedScott> where did I buy them? MCMelectronics
[22:01] <NedScott> I used a coupon code, which apparently no longer works on Pi orders
[22:01] <NedScott> I didn't even know that at the time
[22:01] <CoJaBo> I meant, where on newdegg
[22:02] <CoJaBo> I got mine on Amazon, but it was $40 shipped; cheapeste I could fined
[22:02] <CoJaBo> d
[22:02] <NedScott> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813142003
[22:03] <NedScott> yeah, I only did mine though MCM because I could get free shipping on six of them, and I'm selling three of those. If I knew about the newegg deal I would have just used that instead
[22:03] <CoJaBo> Are they $36 shipped on newegg, or do they charge extra shipping?
[22:04] <NedScott> free shipping
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[22:04] * CoJaBo will have to remember that for next time
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[22:07] <ZER0C001> Hey all just got my first pi today
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[22:12] <Sonny_Jim> ZER0C001: Congrats, hope you have fun with it
[22:12] <Sonny_Jim> Got any projects in mind?
[22:13] <ZER0C001> i collect old computers so i was gonna build a PPP bridge to my commodore amiga
[22:13] <Sonny_Jim> That's pretty cool
[22:13] <ZER0C001> and then run a real old DEC VT420 serial terminal on it
[22:13] <ZER0C001> ive been looking at the electronic kits too to play with
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[22:22] <[Saint]> A lot of the kits, especially those pointed specifically at raspberrypi, are sold by charlatans who should be ashamed of themselves.
[22:23] <[Saint]> (but aren't, 'cos they're raking in that sweet, sweet cash from uninformed buyers)
[22:24] <NedScott> indeed
[22:24] <NedScott> I keep telling myself I should get into that and make some money, but I'm just not enough of an a-hole to do it
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[22:26] <shiftplusone> How dare you even consider offering people a product they want for a price they are willing to pay?
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[22:28] <evil_dan2wik> I was uploading files to my Pi from 3 computers and the Pi's USB ports and ethernet stopped working.
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[22:28] <evil_dan2wik> what have I done?
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[22:29] <evil_dan2wik> oh, everything just re-connected.
[22:29] <shiftplusone> anything interesting in dmesg?
[22:30] <evil_dan2wik> dmesg just shows everything disconnecting
[22:31] <evil_dan2wik> also, would a capacitor just for the SD card help prevent corruption on power loss?
[22:31] <evil_dan2wik> or is it something else?
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[22:33] <shiftplusone> Nope
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[22:42] <Sonny_Jim> When you say power loss, do you mean low voltage?
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[22:54] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, I mean, complete power loss from power loss.
[22:55] <evil_dan2wik> I just thought that the SD card could be in the middle of writing a block but instead only writes part of the block back.
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[23:01] <CoJaBo> evil_dan2wik: someone built a PiUPS once
[23:01] <evil_dan2wik> I know a lot of people who have UPSs for their Pis
[23:01] <[Saint]> <--
[23:04] <CoJaBo> huh, I only saw mention of the one
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[23:05] <[Saint]> I wouldn't *buy* one specifically for a pi...nuts to that, a few fat caps will almost certainly provide enough for a safe shutdown on power-off detection (which is bloody trivial to detect).
[23:06] <simonl> A question on network performance: I run OpenELEC on my pi, but when watching bluray rips over smb it can't keep the required bitrate so it stops to buffer every now and then
[23:06] <[Saint]> Mine just happens to also run off the huge UPS that powers my server and allows safe shutdown for devices carrying data that I actually care about.
[23:06] <[Saint]> simonl: network and USb share a single USB2 bus.
[23:06] <simonl> Googling suggests that this is simply beyond the pis capabilities
[23:06] <[Saint]> Hammer network, USB falls over.
[23:06] <[Saint]> Hammer USB, network falls over.
[23:06] <simonl> [Saint]: Ah. That might explain part of it
[23:07] <simonl> except I don't use USB at all... unless the sd card is also attached to the USB bus
[23:07] <[Saint]> You can either have decent disk IO *or* decent network IO.
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[23:07] <[Saint]> Not both simultaneously.
[23:07] <[Saint]> It is - yes.
[23:08] <CoJaBo> ..?
[23:08] <simonl> disk io should be very low when using xbmc though. Don't know why it would keep doing flash io when plaing back from network
[23:08] <simonl> and it doesn't explain why some people have better luck with nfs
[23:09] <CoJaBo> The USB uses a lot of CPU, iirc
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[23:09] <[Saint]> IO should be low when watching a bluray rip...errr...ok.
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[23:09] <NedScott> anyone know about Apache and rewrite rules?
[23:09] <simonl> [Saint]: it shouldn't need high SD speed and high network speed at the same time
[23:10] <simonl> but bus speed might perhaps explain it anyway.
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[23:12] <[Saint]> NedScott: a bit vague - you mean the apache license?
[23:12] <[Saint]> That's pretty much a general "do what you want" (with some caveats) license.
[23:13] <NedScott> no, url rewrite rules, in the configuration file, but I think I figured it out
[23:13] <[Saint]> Ah.
[23:13] <NedScott> apparently a module for it is installed but not enabled by default
[23:13] <simonl> But really, USB bus speed should be plenty IMO unless something else is adding a pretty huge amount of overhead
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[23:13] <simonl> I'm sure this has been discussed at length before, lol
[23:14] <[Saint]> Perhaps you're underestimating the bluray rip bitrate?
[23:15] <[Saint]> 1080 mpeg2 is something in the order of ~16MB/s
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[23:15] * [Saint] can't math today - so estimates will do
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[23:16] <[Saint]> I'm definitely in the vicinity of being correct there, but I can't be arsed with precise bitrate math.
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[23:22] <simonl> [Saint]: The file i'm playing now is about 32Mbit/s on average based on movie length and file size
[23:22] <simonl> That's actually a remuxed bluray (but with all video and audio tracks without any transcoding)
[23:23] <simonl> It
[23:23] <simonl> 's fairly close to playable, which is annoying :P
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[23:27] <BCMM> have there been any changes to the way the Pi boots between the B and B+? Any reason for a microSD card to not boot at all on a B+ when it boots a B fine (with an SD adaptor)?
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[23:37] <NedScott> at all? no
[23:37] <NedScott> the only thing that might be an issue is the USB hub and ethernet
[23:37] <ZER0C001> I need to figure out what to do with my pi
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[23:38] <NedScott> you could make it into a security camera
[23:38] <NedScott> apparently motionpi works with more than one USB camera on a single pi
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[23:38] <ZER0C001> nice
[23:38] <NedScott> it will even send you a text when it sees motion
[23:38] <ZER0C001> I got it to run my DEC VT420 terminal
[23:38] <ZER0C001> but then I keep seeing all these projects
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[23:39] <ZER0C001> lol and If i set it up to send me a text when it saw motion my cats would set it off all the time id get 10,000 txts a day
[23:39] <NedScott> you could set it up to spray cats with water when it sees them
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[23:42] <ZER0C001> lol there we go
[23:42] <ZER0C001> i think im gonna order a GPIO kit that has LEDs, diodes stuff like that
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[23:48] <[Saint]> Until our (bastard, long overdue to leave) flatmate moved in, I had a motion controlled kitty-captivator in the spare room.
[23:48] <[Saint]> If it detected motion, and thought that the object it detected was sufficiently feline, it would wake up the TV and start to play a HD tropical fish tank scene.
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[23:51] <Boscop> hi, i tried to build spi-bcm2708 on my pi but i get the following error: http://pastebin.com/B1kk6p8q
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[23:53] <[Saint]> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/fatal-error-asm-mach-dma-h-no-such-file-or-directory-4175467593/
[23:53] <[Saint]> [SOLVED]
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[23:54] <[Saint]> Boscop: ^
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[23:55] <ZER0C001> lol thats epic
[23:55] <[Saint]> (googling the exact error a compiler spits out almost always yields someone else in a similar predicament - often with a solution attached)
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[23:55] <[Saint]> ZER0C001: I assume you're meaning my kitty entertainment system? :)
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[23:55] <ZER0C001> yes
[23:56] <[Saint]> It was mostly an excuse to get to know opencv and train it to detect a cat.
[23:56] <[Saint]> Of which the Internet supplied me with _countless_ images for training purposes.
[23:56] <[Saint]> Cats on the Internet, huh. Who knew? ;)
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[23:58] <Sonny_Jim> I reckon I could have fooled it with a stuffed toy
[23:58] <[Saint]> Almost certainly.
[23:58] <Sonny_Jim> Is OpenCV GPU accelerated on the Pi now?
[23:59] <ZER0C001> looks like I got a lot to learn about the pi
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[23:59] <[Saint]> ZER0C001: none of this has been pi-specific.
[23:59] <[Saint]> It seems you've a lot to learn about linux in general, we all did, once upon a time.
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