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IRC Log for 2014-10-02

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[0:00] <[Saint]> Your journey starts here. :)
[0:00] <Boscop> [Saint]: thanks but it doesn't solve my problem. i have a lot of dma.h files on my system (http://pastebin.com/0tzzzcn8 ). i guess the one the script needs is /root/linux-rpi-3.12.y/arch/arm/include/asm/mach/dma.h but how can i tell make to use it, when it builds it like make -C /lib/modules/3.12.26+/build M=/root/spi-bcm2708 modules -I/root/linux-rpi-3.12.y/arch/arm/include/asm it doesn't work
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[0:03] <[Saint]> Boscop: Hmmm...what kernal are you trying to compile against?
[0:03] <[Saint]> oh god. that's not a word, autocomplete.
[0:04] <[Saint]> *kernel
[0:04] <Boscop> Linux pi 3.12.26+ #702 PREEMPT Wed Aug 6 17:43:49 BST 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[0:04] <shiftplusone> kernal is a perfectly cromulent word.
[0:04] <shiftplusone> If you're talking about the c64 anyway.
[0:05] <[Saint]> Boscop: try http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=19489&start=175
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[0:05] <[Saint]> later down the page is the relevant parts
[0:07] <[Saint]> Failing that, poke shiftplusone, who is now a RPF kernel expert...donchaknow.
[0:07] <shiftplusone> lies
[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> Oh the camera uses some of the GPU acceleration
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[0:11] <cs02rm0> anyone else getting signature errors updating with archive.raspbian.org?
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[0:13] <Boscop> cs02rm0: i get illegal instructions: http://pastebin.com/ZLnskyj0
[0:16] <[Saint]> That doesn't look good.
[0:18] <[Saint]> In fact, I'd put that in the "fairly bad things" category.
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[0:30] <a1fa> hello, does anyone sell 12v dc bricks with integrated battery?
[0:32] <BCMM> NedScott: thanks
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[0:32] <[Saint]> a1fa: http://www.mini-box.com/OpenUPS ?
[0:33] <a1fa> very pricey
[0:33] <[Saint]> Well, you didn't specify cheap.
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[0:34] <a1fa> i think i am just going to buy cyberpower cheap crap
[0:34] <[Saint]> what is the use case here?
[0:34] <NedScott> brick?
[0:34] <a1fa> [Saint]: thinking about building a remote relay for motion sensor and fire alarm
[0:34] <NedScott> like mains to 12v dc?
[0:35] <a1fa> so two pi one sending and other one recieving/translating signal into relay board
[0:35] <NedScott> does it need to be 12 volt?
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[0:36] <a1fa> i think the motion sensor is 12v, and so is the smoke detector
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[0:36] <[Saint]> There's almost certainly 5 or 3.3V variants of each.
[0:37] <[Saint]> In fact I'd be willing to bet on it.
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[0:37] <a1fa> that would work too.. i already have the 12v one.. but i dont mind buying new ones
[0:37] <NedScott> they do make what you're asking, but I would see if you can do it all on 5 volts
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[0:37] <[Saint]> Though I understand the want to use what one has at hand, 12V drives the expense up fairly significantly.
[0:38] <[Saint]> And the size.
[0:38] <NedScott> basically you want emergency lights. you can get a simple unit for home or small business use that is affordable
[0:38] <[Saint]> (if that matters)
[0:38] <NedScott> they will run off of 12 volts
[0:38] <NedScott> err
[0:38] <NedScott> provide 12 volts
[0:38] <NedScott> and a battery
[0:38] <NedScott> I'm sure there is various ways to DIY such a setup as well
[0:38] <NedScott> is/are
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[0:39] <a1fa> so the 5v, are they wall mounted?
[0:39] <a1fa> or are they sensors on a breadboard?
[0:40] <NedScott> huh?
[0:40] <a1fa> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2013/01/cheap-pir-sensors-and-the-raspberry-pi-part-1/
[0:40] <a1fa> are we talking about these 5v sensors -- or self contained units
[0:40] <NedScott> I think he means you can use the ones that say "12 volt" on them with 5 volts if you know where to tap into them
[0:40] <a1fa> http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/02/21/88/80/0002218880357_500X500.jpg
[0:40] <a1fa> ooo
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[0:43] <a1fa> how stupid of an idea is it to translate gpio to ip, and translate it back to gpio/
[0:44] <NedScott> eh?
[0:44] <Hello71> "translate gpio"?
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[0:44] <a1fa> meh... read input on one end, and output on another ;)
[0:44] <a1fa> via two pies
[0:45] <NedScott> on the same pi?
[0:45] <a1fa> two separate pi
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[0:45] <NedScott> it's not really a stupid idea
[0:45] <NedScott> but it might not be the most cost effective idea
[0:46] <a1fa> i'd be better of running a long cable
[0:46] <a1fa> heh
[0:46] <NedScott> I read that most people use some kind of arduino-like device for stuff like that, to relay sensors to the Pi wirelessly
[0:47] <NedScott> like this: http://lowpowerlab.com/moteino/
[0:48] <NedScott> but two pis should work
[0:48] <a1fa> there are a shitton of walls that i have to go through :(
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[0:48] <a1fa> this may work tho
[0:48] <a1fa> i'll look into it
[0:49] <NedScott> I'm a real noob about this kind of stuff as well, and I keep telling myself to learn how to make a sensor to tell me when I have mail (paper mail)
[0:49] <NedScott> but I keep putting it off because words learning hurt brain thing
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[0:52] <a1fa> NedScott: it would be wash for my needs..
[0:53] <a1fa> buying 4 moteinos or two pies
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[0:57] <ozzzy> good evening
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[1:01] <shiftplusone> ahoy
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[1:33] <[Saint]> 99 bugs in my custom distribution rolling script
[1:33] <[Saint]> 99 bugs in my script
[1:33] <[Saint]> Take one down, patch it around..
[1:33] <[Saint]> 325 bugs in my custom distribution rolling script
[1:34] <[Saint]> 325 bugs in my custom distribution rolling script
[1:34] <oldtopman> [Saint]: Which distro?
[1:34] <[Saint]> 325 bugs in my script
[1:34] <[Saint]> ...
[1:34] <a1fa> i think thats a poem
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[1:35] <[Saint]> oldtopman: Arch
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[1:37] <[Saint]> I'm in the process of automating the rollout of a custom distribution for my clients that encompasses network attached storage, samba/print share, optional anonymizing AP services, and a B/G/N wireless repeater.
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[1:37] <[Saint]> I have such a setup deployed in approximately two dozen locations presently, but I've been building the image by hand, and then cloning it.
[1:38] <[Saint]> Now I want to automate the build process.
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[1:38] <[Saint]> I have what you might call something of a domestic ISP running here.
[1:38] <[Saint]> Serving about 32 households and growing.
[1:39] <[Saint]> I don't know /why/, but over the past fortnight I received 11 more subscriptions.
[1:40] <[Saint]> I'm on the very edge of what I can provide and still have reasonable speeds without adding another dedicated line.
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[1:43] <[Saint]> My broadcast range is about 400m, not too shabby. I pick up the slack and fill in the holes and deadpoints with the pi-based wireless repeater stations.
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[1:43] <[Saint]> To make that an attractive option to the customer, one worth considering paying an additional $2 a week for, it also provides the above mentioned services.
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[1:46] <[Saint]> 128 or 256GB (soon to be 1TB) network attached storage, samba share, optional anonymized AP (using tor - I also run a tor relay and exit node from my home server), and the benefit of having a much stronger local wireless connection.
[1:46] <NedScott> I'd use pogoplug with arch instead. Better USB IO speeds and the network isn't on the USB bus.
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[1:47] <[Saint]> Oh, I agree. But, it needed to be cheap, with very low power requirements.
[1:47] <NedScott> pogoplug is about $20 :)
[1:47] <[Saint]> And the V2 version I'm currently hashing out makes use of the PiTFT touchscreen and Pimoroni PiTFT case.
[1:48] <a1fa> anybody use servoblaster?
[1:48] <[Saint]> If I wanted it to be more capable, I'd use the STE Snowball.
[1:48] <[Saint]> Foolishly cheap, and rather capable SBC.
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[1:49] <[Saint]> My clients are mostly Ma & Pa types that just want something easy to use, and the benefits of all they can eat B/G/N wireless without having to be bound to a contract.
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[1:50] <[Saint]> My contract is quite simple. "Don't be evil. No pay, no Internet.".
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[1:51] <[Saint]> I have it set up so that services are automagically cut and restored depending on payment status.
[1:51] <[Saint]> But I'm very flexible if they actually talk to me about it.
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[2:00] <niston> :)
[2:00] <niston> I had a similar setup, [Saint]
[2:01] <niston> pay and you have net for 30 days, don't pay and it gets cut off. no bills, no reminders, no frills
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[2:02] <[Saint]> The /slight/ "frill" I have, is that there's an automatic SMS sent out when service is cut/restored.
[2:02] <niston> ah, I didn't do that but was planning for SMS reload, so SMS notification would probably have followed
[2:03] <niston> but then came along big changes and I sold out =]
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[2:03] <niston> man
[2:03] <niston> mono is driving me nuts
[2:04] <niston> I have a b.so that absolutely must not be loaded until a.so resides in memory
[2:04] <niston> yet mono insists loading b.so before a.so
[2:04] <niston> no matter the order of calls in my code.
[2:05] <niston> apparently there is no mechanism to influence the load order =(
[2:06] * [Saint] recommends erythromycin for mono
[2:06] <niston> that sounds like a nasty fungus
[2:06] <[Saint]> the opposite thereof, kinda. :)
[2:06] <niston> peniciline?
[2:07] <[Saint]> Its a fairly indiscriminate antibiotic agent.
[2:07] <niston> oh. a fungus killer you mean?
[2:07] <niston> ah ok. so it IS a fungus :D
[2:07] <niston> yeah mono... take this... erythromycin..thing
[2:07] * [Saint] was making a parallel between mono and mononucleosis
[2:08] <[Saint]> (which really has no treatment, the treatment options only address the symtoms, but - hey)
[2:09] <niston> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[2:09] <niston> might have found a solution
[2:09] <niston> a nasty nasty ugly evil yuck bad hack
[2:10] <[Saint]> It'll fit right in with the rest of Mono, then. ;p
[2:10] * [Saint] runs
[2:10] <niston> ok. it works.
[2:10] <niston> Console.WriteLine(Bass.BASS_GetVersion().ToString());
[2:10] <niston> _MixerStream = BassMix.BASS_Mixer_StreamCreate(sampleRate, numberOfChannels, BASSFlag.BASS_MIXER_NONSTOP | (FloatingPointSupport ? BASSFlag.BASS_SAMPLE_FLOAT : 0));
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[2:11] <niston> dunno why
[2:11] <niston> I do Bass.BASS_Init() and lots of other calls to Bass before the code above
[2:11] <niston> yet if I remove the Console.WriteLine, it will crash
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[2:19] <[Saint]> I /really/, really, really hate the idea - but I'm thinking I'll need to put out a bulk email to all the clients asking for a handout. It seems like a crap thing to do, but I can't really see another way out. The price I charge for the services I provide is rather adequate, I believe (though I realized above I may have said several times that I was charging on a weekly basis, when in fact it is monthly $10/m for just B/G/N wireless, or $12 for
[2:19] <[Saint]> B/G/N wireless plus the repeater station/NAS/anonymized AP), but it only barely covers the cost of the lines and doesn't take into consideration the hardware I provide.
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[2:20] <[Saint]> I'll have to do something along the lines of "Hey, if you all gave me en extra - say $10, or...literally whatever you can afford, I can then look at replacing my switchgear and broadcast facilities, and updating my lines and server, and we'll all benefit from it."
[2:21] <SpeedEvil> Good luck
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[2:21] <[Saint]> As it is I've spent a couple of grand.
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[2:25] <niston> [Saint] I had several types of prepaid subscriptions, differing in speed
[2:26] <niston> so there was 800kbps for 9.90 on the low end and 12mbps for 49.90 on the high end
[2:26] <niston> few people would get the 9.90 one because "all they ever do is check mail"
[2:27] <niston> most people got the 2mbps one as it allowed for wilmaa and zattoo
[2:28] <niston> I did bandwidth control by traffic shaping on a pfsense box
[2:28] <niston> works remarkably well
[2:29] <[Saint]> I just throw fullspeed B/G/N out into the atmosphere at 100% broadcast and those on my whitelist of approved devices can make use of it how they please.
[2:29] <[Saint]> If you're N capable. Gret.
[2:29] <[Saint]> Only got B/G? No problem.
[2:29] <[Saint]> *great
[2:29] <niston> ah, I had N only
[2:30] <niston> but I sold adapters for 19.90
[2:30] <niston> also had a router with ddwrt preinstalled as sort of "wireline" replacemet
[2:30] <[Saint]> Yeah, if I went N only I'd lose ~80% of my client base.
[2:30] <[Saint]> I'm catering for more Ma & Pa types.
[2:30] <niston> people with xboxes would use the router
[2:30] <[Saint]> Not anyone vaguely tech savvy.
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[2:31] <niston> problem with b clients is they slow everthing down for everybody on the BSSID
[2:32] <niston> might not be an issue if your BSSID serves only a few customers
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[2:37] <[Saint]> Man I love having a fast network. It never gets tiring seeing a torrent getting pulled in at ~25Mb/s
[2:39] <[Saint]> There's also been another huge jump in traffic from the raspberrypi images I seed.
[2:39] <[Saint]> I wonder what that coincides with.
[2:39] <Caleo> Mb or MB?
[2:39] <Caleo> because there's a pretty significant difference
[2:40] <[Saint]> I'm aware, Mb.
[2:42] <Hello71> mb
[2:43] <[Saint]> mB
[2:44] <niston> mebibits or mebibytes? :>
[2:45] <niston> "no idea but the disk is full."
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[2:46] <[Saint]> 1024,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 picobits
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[2:54] <niston> # // BLACK MAGIC: persuade mono into loading libbass.so before we access mixer in libbassmix.so
[2:54] <niston> # var x = Bass.BASS_GetVersion().ToString();
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[2:54] <niston> who would have thought?
[2:55] <Vutral> is there a new pi ?
[2:55] <niston> model B+ ? not exactly new but..
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[2:59] <ZER0C001> and I love my Pi
[2:59] <ZER0C001> I just got PPP up on it and put my Vintage commodore Amiga online
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[3:01] <pksato> wow... _amiga_ now can make _friends_.
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[3:03] <diavalus> Damn, I put a cooler on my pi and now I got 35-38 Celsius degrees on full load. :D
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[3:10] <ZER0C001> yeah the amiga is old but kickass for games
[3:11] <pksato> what model?
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[3:22] <ZER0C001> Amiga 3000 030
[3:22] <ZER0C001> 16MB Fast RAM 2mb Chip RAM and a 36GB Hard Drive
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[3:25] <[Saint]> hahahahaha
[3:25] <[Saint]> "fast" RAM.
[3:25] <[Saint]> ;p
[3:25] <pksato> nice... 36GB? its is lot of storage. SCSI ?
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[3:30] <niston> Amiga :D
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[3:55] <ZER0C001> yeah 36GB a SCSI drive
[3:55] <ZER0C001> SCA 10,000 RPM drive with an SCA to 50 pin adapter
[3:55] <pksato> is not use rpi, but... http://youtu.be/fMmbUYcq69g
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[4:10] <Caleo> have any of you guys ever used any hall effect sensors with rpi?
[4:11] <ShorTie> Yes
[4:11] <Caleo> pksato: that is pretty neat
[4:12] <Caleo> ShorTie: any idea how fast you can register state switches?
[4:12] <Caleo> it might be more a limitation of the sensor itself
[4:13] <ShorTie> no idea, i just sense if a motor is running or not
[4:13] <pksato> hall effect sensors are used on brushless motors to flip coils.
[4:14] <Caleo> I'm trying to figure out if I can set up a rotary interrupt that can sense the turning speed of a brake disc with drilled vents at something like 400 state switches per second
[4:14] <Caleo> (ie, on/off)
[4:15] <pksato> from wikipedia, It can be operated up to 100 kHz.
[4:15] <Caleo> hmm
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[4:17] <pksato> or, 6000000RPM
[4:18] <Caleo> I just wonder if the way I plan on using it could trigger state switches that fast
[4:18] <Caleo> https://hostr.co/file/ql1ouESvkfmX/Screenshoton2014-10-01at22.18.26.png something like this shows the concept
[4:19] <ShorTie> your limitation maybe the bus in the pi that is used to read the input, not so much the sensor it's self
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[4:20] * [Saint] feels rather proud of himself.
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[4:20] <Caleo> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51vslHQRN4L._SX300_.jpg < basically, I've got a brake disc like this (slotted) and at max speed it equates to something like 400 state changes per second
[4:21] <Caleo> (on when the slot is exposed, off when it's not)
[4:21] <[Saint]> I made some muffins, and, they didn't completely fail!
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[4:21] <[Saint]> In fact, they're rather edible.
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[4:22] <pksato> some sensor not need magnetics, only a metal (not) presence
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[4:23] <ShorTie> like a proximetry senser
[4:24] <Caleo> I'm aware
[4:25] <pksato> or use optical sensor, need only a reflectve/not refletive area.
[4:25] <Caleo> can't use optical
[4:25] <Caleo> mud/dirt/debris is a factor
[4:29] <pksato> Vehicle Sensor
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[4:32] <azizLIGHT> I updated all packages but shellshocker.net test script says I'm vulnerable still to 1 taviso
[4:32] <azizLIGHT> Is this expected even after full updates
[4:34] <pksato> azizLIGHT: just not use bash as CGI and other server use shell.
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[4:35] <irc_smirk> hello
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[4:36] <irc_smirk> getting my first pi next week. what should i do first with it :)
[4:36] <azizLIGHT> Update
[4:37] <irc_smirk> dheh
[4:37] <irc_smirk> can i run my own mail with it?
[4:37] <irc_smirk> like a temporary email service for myself
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[4:41] <pksato> irc_smirk: yes, you can run email server on rpi. But, on most, not internet connected.
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[4:42] <irc_smirk> eh?
[4:43] <pksato> most isp block incoming connection to port 25.
[4:43] <pksato> and some other, even outgoing.
[4:44] <irc_smirk> i dont understand. im running my pi at home off my cable modem. can i send/receive emails doing that
[4:44] <pksato> depend of firewall of you isp.
[4:45] <irc_smirk> oh i understand
[4:45] <irc_smirk> ah so my plan to host stuff to external internet may not work
[4:45] <pksato> and, you need a fixed ip and registered domain name.
[4:45] <irc_smirk> id like to also run a socket io server
[4:45] <irc_smirk> node
[4:46] <irc_smirk> well im goign to use a dynamic ip service for that
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[4:46] <pksato> ah... you can use relay service of dyn dns provider.
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[4:49] <irc_smirk> so these isp are picky about people hosting stuff huh. makes sense
[4:49] <irc_smirk> how come they dont block all torrent stuff then
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[4:52] <pksato> for security and privacy concerns. spammer use you host to send spam.
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[4:56] <irc_smirk> so if i setup a node server and manage to punch a hole out through my router i should be on alert for online scripts that scan ports?
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[5:07] <irc_smirk> is there any way to make the raspberry pi send and recieve text messages
[5:07] <irc_smirk> without using a service
[5:08] <Caleo> aside from interfacing with a phone some way? no
[5:09] <abnormal> use a dish and aim it at a nearby neighbor's router....
[5:09] <Caleo> you either have to use a phone or a texting service like google voice or some of the others.. there's really no way around that
[5:09] <Caleo> that's kind of like asking if you can access the internet without an ISP :P
[5:12] <irc_smirk> well even that is possible
[5:12] <abnormal> you can convert a TV dish into an internet access antenna... just aim it towards some unlocked router and you can text that way
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[5:12] <irc_smirk> a new addition to my van
[5:12] <Caleo> irc_smirk: not really, you need to have some sort of ISP to have internet access
[5:13] <irc_smirk> no no. you can call a friend they can fax you the internet
[5:13] <Caleo> -.-
[5:13] <irc_smirk> i had a client once that demanded website revisions done this way
[5:14] <irc_smirk> i had to fix typos/new content. had to fax it to them
[5:14] <irc_smirk> and they would fax back revisions
[5:17] <pksato> use some online fax service.
[5:18] <irc_smirk> this was before all
[5:18] <irc_smirk> *all that
[5:19] <irc_smirk> still i billed hourly. i just hated doing that job because they would complain the homepage graphics were too dark
[5:19] <irc_smirk> "sir please look at it on a computer not the fax paper"
[5:19] <tblake3> Many times you can send a text via email. 1235551234@mms.phoneprovider.com
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[5:20] <irc_smirk> i need to receive sms. it will trigger scripts on my node server
[5:20] <pksato> need a gsm modem or modem capable phone.
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[5:20] <irc_smirk> ill go with a service. its too bad the telco monopoly is there
[5:21] <tblake3> Does it have to be sms? Could you set your scripts to listen for a twitter tweet?
[5:21] <pksato> and gammu to send/recieve sms.
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[5:22] <irc_smirk> it could. ive thought of that. its a ux thing really.
[5:25] <irc_smirk> users will use phone to text requests. they could use a webapp i suppose maybe even one that looks like a text message app
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[5:31] <tblake3> irc_smirk: Good luck and good night.
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[5:34] <ZER0C001> im looking at getting another Pi, im so pleased with this B+
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[5:36] <abnormal> buy 10,000 of them...
[5:37] <ZER0C001> well they seem so useful
[5:37] <ZER0C001> now to figure out how to use the GPIO ports
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[5:38] <abnormal> a little bit of programming of each pin. look in raspberrypi.org and that will give lots of information of the GPIO ports
[5:40] <ZER0C001> cool thanks :)
[5:40] <abnormal> yw
[5:40] <ZER0C001> i need to order a breakout kit
[5:40] <abnormal> adafruit.com
[5:40] <ZER0C001> im on there drooling over the goodies lol
[5:41] <abnormal> yes.. my favorite site
[5:41] <ZER0C001> might order a regular B and use that for my PPP/terminal stuff and use the B+ for GPIO and whatnot
[5:41] <abnormal> the other one is makezine.com
[5:42] <ZER0C001> im gonna build an electronics workbench off makezine
[5:42] <abnormal> nice
[5:42] <abnormal> go for it...
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[5:43] <ZER0C001> ive been collecting and using vintage computers for years never really did any hardware hacking. When I was looking for a TCP/IP over serial solution to the Amiga, the RPi fit the bill nicely
[5:43] <abnormal> yup, sure does..
[5:44] <ZER0C001> now i gotta find a used b for cheap
[5:45] <azizLIGHT> Anyone run a pi off a battery pack.
[5:45] <azizLIGHT> ?
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[5:48] <ZER0C001> i just gotta get a downgrade cable for the B+ so I can get an electronics starter kit for it
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[5:50] <abnormal> there's a thing in the raspberry pi geek magazine this month about battery packs, look it up, www.raspberry-pi-geek.com
[5:50] <steve_rox> i ran rpi off battery pack
[5:50] * linwiz_ is now known as linwiz
[5:50] <abnormal> make one out of one of your old computer cables
[5:50] * ZER0C001 ponders buying another pi
[5:51] <ZER0C001> for 3 bucks im not gonna make one out of my old cables lol
[5:51] <steve_rox> i let it drain a bit too low tho but i estimate i got 7 or 10 hours outte rit
[5:51] <abnormal> cudda used a car battery.. maybe last a week
[5:52] <steve_rox> i used 4 lith-ions
[5:52] <steve_rox> in series
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[5:52] <abnormal> then get one out of a Toyota Prius...
[5:53] <steve_rox> are they li-ions?
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[5:53] <abnormal> yes
[5:54] <steve_rox> scary when they blowup
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[5:55] <abnormal> lol... only when connected wrong...
[5:55] <ZER0C001> yup i think im gonna order another pi :)
[5:55] <ZER0C001> one for hardware hackery the other for running my PPP/serial terminal stuff
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[5:56] <ZER0C001> a plain old B will do me for the serial terminal/PPP stuff
[5:56] <steve_rox> but b+ sences low voltage
[5:56] <steve_rox> and has a annoying video audio jack
[5:57] <ZER0C001> a plain old B is good enough to run a PPP Server and Serial console
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[5:58] <abnormal> raspberry pi jam sunday at the Egham site, Gartner UK HQ offices...
[5:59] <steve_rox> wondering if i should buy another reverseing lcd to use on rpi
[6:00] <steve_rox> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-3-5-Inch-TFT-LCD-Screen-Monitor-Display-For-Car-Rear-View-Reverse-Camera-UK-/191120796420?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item2c7fafeb04
[6:00] <steve_rox> if its the correct pcb it can be converted down to 5v
[6:01] <ZER0C001> there made an offer on another pi
[6:01] <ZER0C001> a plain old B
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[6:01] <irc_smirk> check out node-red project easy to program GPIO like that as well
[6:02] <ZER0C001> ive never programmed GPIO in my entire life
[6:03] <irc_smirk> i havent either but from what ive read seems understandable
[6:03] <irc_smirk> what do you want to do with it?
[6:03] <ZER0C001> just make some leds light up for now stuff like that
[6:03] <ZER0C001> have it output my PPP status to an LCD
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[6:08] <irc_smirk> check out node-red. it lets you wire up things and trigger GPIO
[6:09] <irc_smirk> like you can have it light up if the space station passes by your house :)
[6:09] <ZER0C001> oh thats cool
[6:10] <irc_smirk> its like unix pipe
[6:10] <ZER0C001> i found it im gonna set it up on it
[6:11] <ZER0C001> i believe this is it http://nodered.org/docs/hardware/raspberrypi.html
[6:11] <irc_smirk> i jsut started last night. be sure to search on github for more flows because they dont have them all listed on their main site
[6:11] <irc_smirk> yup
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[6:11] <irc_smirk> you can get it running on node locally to play with it quickly
[6:11] <ZER0C001> now i gotta order a GPIO starter kit with lights and switches and whatnot
[6:11] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[6:11] <ZER0C001> because I have no electronic hardware here for it
[6:12] <irc_smirk> yeah i know the feeling. i had like a $300 pi planned. then i stopped myself and just got the basic thing to get started
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[6:12] <ZER0C001> they dont have the electronic kits out yet for the B+
[6:12] <irc_smirk> adafruit has nice offers
[6:12] <ZER0C001> so I was thinking a GPIO downgrade cable and then a starter kit with the electronic goodies
[6:12] <Kaiju> hmm, just bought a b+
[6:12] <irc_smirk> yes that seems to be the route right now
[6:12] <ZER0C001> i bought a B+ too
[6:12] <Kaiju> looks huge compared to the older one
[6:13] <ZER0C001> and got an offer in on a B just so I can denote the PPP/Serial console stuff to it
[6:14] <Kaiju> also had no idea anyone was here on freenode til I decided to look it up
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[6:14] <ZER0C001> irc_smirk did you follow these instructions??
[6:14] <ZER0C001> http://nodered.org/docs/hardware/raspberrypi.html
[6:14] <irc_smirk> arent they the same size? maybe fatter?
[6:14] <irc_smirk> i havent got a pi yet. coming very soon
[6:14] <irc_smirk> im running node red locally on my mac right now
[6:15] <ZER0C001> ah nice
[6:15] <ZER0C001> i should set it up on my mac
[6:15] <irc_smirk> yeah its going to be much quicker to get a handle on
[6:15] <Kaiju> it's just taller
[6:16] <Kaiju> well, actually maybe not
[6:16] <irc_smirk> they have a cool irc in irc out flow. i quickly created a bot yesteray that , well, spammed :)
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[6:16] <irc_smirk> yeah those extra usb must make it taller
[6:16] <Kaiju> lol
[6:17] <Kaiju> my pi runs znc now, haven't seen it months. I have no idea what I am talking about
[6:17] <irc_smirk> znc
[6:18] <ZER0C001> i dont even use the GUI on it
[6:19] <Kaiju> what's a GUI?
[6:19] <ZER0C001> LXDE that comes with raspbian
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[6:19] <Kaiju> bah
[6:20] <Kaiju> archlinux arm
[6:20] <Kaiju> <-- neck beard
[6:21] <irc_smirk> im curious to see how fast the chrome browser is on the pi and if it even plays youtube videos
[6:21] <Kaiju> ran xbmc ok with 720p here
[6:21] <Kaiju> anhting higher was rough
[6:21] <Kaiju> anything*
[6:22] <irc_smirk> but what about in browser
[6:22] <irc_smirk> can it run html 5 videos?
[6:22] <Kaiju> never tried that
[6:23] * Kaiju is now known as dougpiston
[6:23] <ZER0C001> im trying to get node-red to install on the pi
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[6:23] <steve_rox> they got that new browser now that uses gpu accellration support
[6:23] <irc_smirk> zero - let me know how it goes and how long it takes. curious to know if this as easy as it was on mac
[6:23] <irc_smirk> steve - really which one? firefox?
[6:23] <steve_rox> the word i cant spell
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[6:24] <irc_smirk> i saw some qt demos that was unbelievable
[6:24] <steve_rox> apithony
[6:24] <steve_rox> or something
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[6:24] <steve_rox> very smooth compared to all other browsers
[6:25] <irc_smirk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wPoWreKUeQ
[6:25] <irc_smirk> video demo of apithony
[6:25] <irc_smirk> Epiphany
[6:25] <steve_rox> ya can download and install easy enough
[6:26] <dougpiston> find it hard to believe anything by gnome runs on anythong this small
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[6:27] <steve_rox> yeah its fast enough to even run sonic games and you know how fast he is :-D
[6:28] <irc_smirk> thanks for the tip i will check i tout
[6:28] <ZER0C001> yeah it fails on installation
[6:28] <ZER0C001> missing dependencies
[6:29] <irc_smirk> are you running raspbian?
[6:29] <ZER0C001> yup
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[6:33] <irc_smirk> what are the errors?
[6:33] <ZER0C001> im running it again so i guess ill see
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[6:34] <irc_smirk> look at this unbelievable performance on the pi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wulbR2R1GpM
[6:35] <ZER0C001> wow
[6:35] <ZER0C001> now i think its installing :)
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[6:38] <ZER0C001> ah its building it from source i se why its taking a bit
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[6:38] <irc_smirk> or this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-vBbqamNBU
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[6:39] <irc_smirk> you had node already installed right?
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[6:39] <ZER0C001> yup i did
[6:39] <ZER0C001> its slow going but its working now
[6:40] <irc_smirk> you can develop your flows on the mac and then its just a copy / paste to install it on the pi
[6:40] <ZER0C001> nice
[6:40] <ZER0C001> its gonna take a while to install on the RPi
[6:40] <irc_smirk> though if you are doing GPIO probably wont work
[6:40] <ZER0C001> looks like I can access it through a web interface on my mac
[6:41] <irc_smirk> oh yeah duh
[6:41] <irc_smirk> yeah then your set ;)
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[6:42] <irc_smirk> im learning how to sms text the node-red to then do other stuff
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[6:48] <azizLIGHT> steve_rox: I have a battery charger for a phone that's micro usb
[6:50] <azizLIGHT> steve_rox: it has a input and output microusb ports, it charges my phone from itself when not connected to ac, and charges from ac when connected via ac
[6:50] <azizLIGHT> I'm thinking I could use that like a ups
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[6:53] <Wetmelon> Evenin'
[6:53] <steve_rox> the b+ can be made as a good ups cos it can sence low power
[6:53] <steve_rox> and hi
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[6:54] <azizLIGHT> B+?
[6:55] <Wetmelon> Is B+ the up-to-date version of the RasPi?
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[6:55] <azizLIGHT> So epiphany browser runs smooth on pi now because of gpu acceleration?
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[6:59] <Kirito> Wasn't it just HTML5 video playback that was given hardware accelerated playback support?
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[7:00] <Kirito> And yes, B+ is the recently released RasPi model
[7:00] <Kirito> http://www.raspberrypi.org/products/model-b-plus/
[7:00] <steve_rox> i got utube vids playing in it
[7:00] <Wetmelon> Cool. Ty sir
[7:01] <Wetmelon> steve_rox, Youtube supports HTML5.
[7:01] <steve_rox> ya
[7:01] <Wetmelon> Indeed
[7:01] <irc_smirk> does it support html web components?>
[7:01] <Kirito> It's kind of interesting that isn't supported natively
[7:01] <steve_rox> very indeed
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[7:02] <irc_smirk> i had new respect for UK tech after finding the pi. but then i had to remind myself who invented the web in the first place
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[7:02] <steve_rox> a spider
[7:02] <irc_smirk> al spider
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[7:03] <steve_rox> getting to sleep is hard
[7:05] <ZER0C001> well I got node red up and running :)
[7:05] <ZER0C001> now to figure it all out lol
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[7:10] <irc_smirk> awesome
[7:10] <irc_smirk> drag the injector
[7:10] <irc_smirk> then the debug
[7:10] <irc_smirk> and connect them together..drag between those end points. then click on the injector butotn on its left. and look at the debug pannel
[7:11] <irc_smirk> after that double click in the injector and notice you can set an interval. try to set a ping every second. after that you can maybe it hook it up with the irc out and have it spam this room with the timestamp :)
[7:12] <irc_smirk> i found a good sms service . tropo.com
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[7:13] <irc_smirk> if someone is up for it text any message to 1-213-438-9292
[7:13] <irc_smirk> and let me know what message is texted back
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[7:17] <ZER0C001> im trying to figure out how to hook it up with IRC out
[7:18] <ZER0C001> there we go
[7:18] <[Saint]> irc_smirk: Hmmm...what locality is this?
[7:19] <[Saint]> Oh, nevermind.
[7:19] <irc_smirk> its los angeles
[7:19] <[Saint]> anyhoo - there we go.
[7:19] <irc_smirk> did it text you?
[7:19] <[Saint]> just trying to work out if I needed to prepend a suffic or not.
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[7:19] <ZER0C001> now how do I stop the thing lol
[7:19] <[Saint]> *suffix
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[7:20] <[Saint]> Well...I got /a/ reply - but, I could very well have just SMS some entirely random person.
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[7:20] <irc_smirk> click on the connector and delete on keyboard and then deploy. or cahnge interval in injector. or just kill node-red all tgoether
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[7:21] <irc_smirk> saint - yes i pay a monkey to type the same message over and over
[7:21] <irc_smirk> thanks for trying it
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[7:22] <[Saint]> Well, just so we're clear, what was the expected reply?
[7:22] <[Saint]> I got "What?"
[7:22] <irc_smirk> haha really? maybe you got the wrong number
[7:23] <irc_smirk> it should say 'Hi. Are you hungry for Pi?"
[7:23] <ZER0C001> hah it worked
[7:23] <ZER0C001> I spammed the channel I regular in
[7:23] <[Saint]> which is hilarious, ass I just spammed my phone's keyboard and autocomplete managed a collection of various rude words.
[7:23] <[Saint]> *as
[7:23] <irc_smirk> zero - neat huh. now imagine everything you could do. and all those GPIO lights you can flash ;)
[7:24] <irc_smirk> zero - this project might interest you too https://code.google.com/p/webiopi/
[7:24] <irc_smirk> saint - i hate auto complete
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[7:25] <ZER0C001> lol yeah
[7:26] <ZER0C001> im gonna be up all night playing with this
[7:27] <[Saint]> irc_smirk: hahaha, yeah, turns out it works when you type the right number.
[7:27] <irc_smirk> science
[7:27] <[Saint]> Someone in your locality is scratching their head wondering what the hell just happened right about now.
[7:28] <[Saint]> Wondering why they got a random SMS of a bunch of jumbled words from some unknown locality.
[7:28] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[7:28] <irc_smirk> sometimes i liek to randomly text people with urgent messages like 'hurry up man im waiting at the door with the swag'
[7:29] <irc_smirk> or "earl is dead"
[7:29] <[Saint]> I used to call people and put on a secret agent bit.
[7:29] <[Saint]> Red Fox? This is Blue Dog, meet at the assigned location.
[7:30] <irc_smirk> cant prank like that no mo ;(
[7:30] <[Saint]> The package is in the mailbag.
[7:30] <[Saint]> The train is leaving the station. Red Fox. Confirm. Are you go?
[7:30] <[Saint]> And, yeah - no, no you can't.
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[7:35] <irc_smirk> so ive seen clusters of PIs setup. what practical application would that have for web development? load balancing?
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[7:56] <Mr_Sheesh> have an odd question. I'm trying to get my rtlsdr moved to an RPi; Is there any reason to go with a Model B over a Model A, for RTLSDR? (Just wondering if anyone figured any good reason out.) I'll have an RPi set up as an RPi dev machine soon enough so I don't need Ethernet on it for that
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[8:03] <[Saint]> LAME3.98r (25.6%); LAME3.93 (15.5%); LAME3.99r (8.8%); LAME3.97 (5.8%); LAME3.92 (5.2%); LAME3.99 (4.5%); ST (4.4%); LAME3.98 (3.7%); LAME3.97b (3.0%); LAME3.98b (0.7%); LAME3.90 (0.5%); LAME3.96r (0.5%)
[8:03] <[Saint]> ahhh crap.
[8:03] <[Saint]> sorry.
[8:07] <Mr_Sheesh> Doesn't really have much to do w/ my question :P
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[8:16] <jacekowski> Mr_Sheesh: it's a lot easier to have something connected to network if you want to do anything remotely
[8:18] <Mr_Sheesh> I'm thinking of a scanner for police/fire, but want it portable, plan to take it with on road trips at times
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[8:25] <[Saint]> Mr_Sheesh: buy one.
[8:25] <[Saint]> they're inexpensive, and you couldn't ever hope to build one as rugged or portable as a commercial option.
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[8:25] <Mr_Sheesh> Buy one what, a scanner or a Model A? Oh. Cannot program on a scanner :p
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[8:26] <[Saint]> right but pi and portable don't gel very well.
[8:26] <jacekowski> Mr_Sheesh: what sort of thing they use to communicate?
[8:26] <jacekowski> in here they use TETRA which is not so easy to sniff
[8:27] <Mr_Sheesh> Trunked but pretty easy to get at, I can get at scanners on the web for it bot nothing mobile. Price scanners vs. an RPi + RTLSDR usb dongle :P
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[8:28] <[Saint]> Its encrypted progressive scan triband here iirc.
[8:28] <[Saint]> Put a stop to my fun years ago.
[8:29] <Mr_Sheesh> huh. Lots of inter-agency comms so that slows down fancy stuff
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[8:31] <irc_smirk> hello
[8:33] <irc_smirk> is there some way to turn on a tv with pi/gpio ?
[8:33] <gordonDrogon> irc_smirk, google for raspberry pi and lirc - but yes is the answer via IR.
[8:34] <irc_smirk> ah of course good o remote control
[8:34] <Mr_Sheesh> they run the IR off a gpio pin?
[8:34] <AlmtyBob> http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Universal-Remote/?ALLSTEPS
[8:34] <irc_smirk> it has line of sight issues though right?
[8:34] <gordonDrogon> might need a transitor to boost it, but yes.
[8:34] <gordonDrogon> same as any IR remot control.
[8:34] <Mr_Sheesh> IR can get around well if you send with enough power
[8:34] <AlmtyBob> that link's solution seems a bit overkill, but I dunno
[8:35] <AlmtyBob> also, I'm reading reviews on Das Keyboard's blank keyboard on Amazon. A few people are complaining about how it's blank...they sell a non-blank ver, wtf people
[8:35] <Mr_Sheesh> old PCJr keyboards were IR and a friend was typing at his computer (through the space under a clowed door) & it worked, apparently
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[8:36] <irc_smirk> they should make wifi connected wall sockets
[8:37] <irc_smirk> oh geez
[8:37] <irc_smirk> http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F7C027/
[8:37] <Mr_Sheesh> You don't really want to run AC & LAN cabling near each other; Keystone etc. does make 100BaseTX etc. wall sockets tho
[8:38] <Mr_Sheesh> Oh, also see X11 for other ways to do that. But, many TVs don't turn on just because you turned the power on
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[8:41] <irc_smirk> ok
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[10:00] <[Saint]> o_o
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[10:01] <[Saint]> Its going to take 5 ½ days to redo my replaygain tags.
[10:01] <ShorTie> how do you find out what version of something is in apt-get ??
[10:02] <[Saint]> Multi threaded replaygain scanning running at 1700% realtime.
[10:02] <[Saint]> And its going to take the better part of six days.
[10:02] <[Saint]> ...heh.
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[10:05] <[Saint]> ShorTie: you don't.
[10:05] <[Saint]> You use 'dpkg -s package_name'
[10:06] <[Saint]> apt is only useful for telling you the versions of packages you /could/ install.
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[10:06] <[Saint]> in which case you'd use 'apt-cache show packagename'
[10:07] <ShorTie> ok, Thankz
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[10:25] <[Saint]> Why do I need yaurt for this? Gah.
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[10:58] <[SLB]> these few days i found my raspi rebooting randomly, at most once during the night when it shouldn't be doing not much
[10:58] <[SLB]> i suspect due to the watchdog
[10:58] <[SLB]> but i can't find any log
[10:59] <[SLB]> where should i look at?
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[11:09] <ShorTie> i guess i'd start off by what is the watchdog watching
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[11:10] <[SLB]> by default i think just the fact that its own process is running?
[11:11] <ShorTie> as a test, can you just disable it ??
[11:11] <[SLB]> yup, i hope i can make some sense out of it because it looked really random and only recently happening
[11:11] <[SLB]> maybe also due to some updates
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[11:14] <ShorTie> in your updating, did you do a dist-upgrade too, if this is raspbian that is ??
[11:16] <[SLB]> it's raspbian yes, but i'm keeping these packages from upgrading: libav-tools libavdevice53 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 lxde
[11:17] <ShorTie> y 4 that ??
[11:17] <ShorTie> it could be that there then
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[11:19] <[SLB]> too much space to update and it's just media/ui related, they've been there since forever
[11:19] <[SLB]> my pi runs headless
[11:20] <[SLB]> for now i have disabled watchdog to see how it behaves
[11:20] <ShorTie> your sdcard is that full ??
[11:21] <[SLB]> not really, but i don't need ui stuff
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[11:21] <[SLB]> and wonder why lxde wants to install gnome packages
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[11:21] <[SLB]> so i'm not updating it
[11:21] <[SLB]> gstreamer and all the likes
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[11:22] <ShorTie> for yucks, i'd just let it update them, never know the whole who, what, when and why sometimes
[11:22] <Wryness> adminntpathREM123b
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[11:22] <Wryness> my computer always gives me this whenever I try to log in
[11:22] <[SLB]> thanks, i'll try that too if it hangs again even without watchdog
[11:22] <Wryness> (though its a brand new pi)
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[11:24] <ShorTie> never heard of that 1 Wryness, what os image are you running ??
[11:24] <Wryness> the latest raspbian
[11:25] <Wryness> it gives some cryptic output upon booting and if I click enter it just shows that
[11:26] <ShorTie> and you got it from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ ??
[11:27] <Wryness> no
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[11:28] <Wryness> i think it was from sourcefourge
[11:28] <ShorTie> i think i'd 1st get the official image from there and try again then
[11:28] <Wryness> yeah, probably best to do that...
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[11:37] <Wryness> the new image works so I guess the image I tried before was simply corrupt (or perhaps malware, though I hope not)
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[11:38] <ShorTie> if it was malware it be gone i would think
[11:39] <Wryness> as I didnt install it and reformatted the sd card, yeah, probably
[11:40] <ShorTie> really no need to reformat, writing the image will do that good enough in most cases
[11:42] <Wryness> thats what I meant actually (it was formatted when I copied over the new image)
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[12:07] <Bhaal> Anyone here used the TSL2561 light sensor package (the adafruit one) with a Pi?
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[12:39] <cyberpolice> anyone have a pi ups called piusv?
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[12:40] <cyberpolice> im getting a error: /usr/local/bin/gpio: Warning: File not present: /dev/i2c-0
[12:41] <cyberpolice> i got a ups for pi from piups (piusv) and when i start daemon it gives error: /usr/local/bin/gpio: Warning: File not present: /dev/i2c-0
[12:41] <cyberpolice> oops
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[12:50] <shiftplusone> cyberpolice, you're not supposed to use i2c0
[12:50] <shiftplusone> (but if you must, there's an override to re-enable it)
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[12:51] <gordonDrogon> cyberpolice, it's a warning - ignore it.
[12:52] <gordonDrogon> it'll be sorted when I release the next wiringPi.
[12:52] <gordonDrogon> it's caused because the boffins at Pi HQ decided to remove the other device....
[12:52] <cyberpolice> hmm
[12:53] <shiftplusone> well... forced to.
[12:53] <cyberpolice> the company who made the ups software decided to use i2c0 i guess
[12:53] <shiftplusone> doubt it
[12:53] <gordonDrogon> cyberpolice, no - they should use the I2C device that's present.
[12:53] <gordonDrogon> the gpio program checks for the existance of both I2C devices and in recent kernels only the active one is now present.
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> so I need to change the gpio program to only look for the one that should be there. i2c-0 is only on the old rev 1 and 1.1 model B's.
[12:55] <gordonDrogon> if you have a revision 2 or + B then it's not there in recent kernels.
[12:55] <cyberpolice> i do have a B, but not sure what revision
[12:55] <cyberpolice> not a B+
[12:55] <gordonDrogon> run gpio -v and it will tell you.
[12:55] <gordonDrogon> soulds like it's rev. 2.
[12:56] <cyberpolice> revision 2
[12:56] <cyberpolice> model b
[12:56] <gordonDrogon> so there you go.
[12:56] <gordonDrogon> just ignore the warning for now.
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[12:56] <cyberpolice> ok, and wait for gpio package update then
[12:57] <gordonDrogon> well, you'll need to pull it and re-build it. it doesn't yet auto-update. although it sounds like you got a distribution that has it installed...
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[12:58] <cyberpolice> the pi ups software compiled wiringpi when i installed their deb
[12:58] <shiftplusone> cyberpolice, does the device itself work?
[12:58] <Bhaal> Grrr argh!
[12:58] <cyberpolice> im not sure what version
[12:58] <Bhaal> Damn light sensor!
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[12:59] <cyberpolice> shiftplusone: i was going to try but got sidetracked googling this error
[12:59] <Bhaal> Why can it not see fluorescent light properly?!?!
[12:59] <shiftplusone> Bhaal, are you trying to say you got something in your eye?
[12:59] <cyberpolice> let me see
[12:59] <shiftplusone> ah >.>
[12:59] <shiftplusone> cyberpolice, error =! warning.
[12:59] <Bhaal> Hahaha
[13:02] <cyberpolice> whats a command to shutdown safely
[13:02] <Bhaal> halt
[13:02] <cyberpolice> ie: allow enough time for software to quit
[13:02] <Bhaal> halt
[13:03] <steve_rox> sudo halt
[13:03] <Bhaal> <-- old school
[13:03] <steve_rox> :-)
[13:03] <gordonDrogon> I read recently that powerdown is different to halt in that it enters an ever lower power state, but I've nothing to test or back that up
[13:04] <steve_rox> powerdown? is that a cmd?
[13:04] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[13:04] <gordonDrogon> sorry - no - it's poweroff
[13:04] <Bhaal> Hmmm, I have a mA meter here, I shall try that at some point gordonDrogon
[13:05] <steve_rox> i have poweroff no powerdown
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[13:05] <Bhaal> So I am guessing no one has had anything to do with the TSL2651 light sensor? Trying to use it to dynamically adjust the pi camera's shutter speed
[13:06] <steve_rox> sounds like a fun project to try
[13:06] <Bhaal> problem is it doesn't pick up fluorescent light properly...
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[13:06] <steve_rox> nearest i got was a LDR+cap to sence light
[13:07] <gordonDrogon> doesn't the Pi camera do all that on it's own anyway?
[13:07] <Bhaal> I tried that, but it tended to never return a result when in near total darkness
[13:07] <steve_rox> well for me it returned result but just very slowly
[13:08] <Bhaal> gordonDrogon: Not once you go past about 330ms
[13:08] <steve_rox> more light the faster it was
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[13:08] <Bhaal> steve_rox: Yeah, that is also a problem with my project
[13:09] <steve_rox> can the shutter speed be changed much on rpi cam?
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[13:16] <cyberpolice> shiftplusone: i think the device is working
[13:16] <cyberpolice> i unplugged ac power, and it ran the shutdown script (though i had a permision problem in the shutdown script)
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[13:49] <niston> oi
[13:49] <niston> shiftplusone the mono thing is resolved
[13:50] <shiftplusone> what was the problem?
[13:50] <niston> uhhh
[13:50] <niston> http://niston.wordpress.com/2014/10/02/black-magic-programming/
[13:50] <niston> :>
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[13:51] <shiftplusone> makes....sense?
[13:51] <niston> haha :)
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[13:52] * shiftplusone checks the rest of the blog
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[13:52] <shiftplusone> are...are you writing down everything we say? D=
[13:52] <niston> lol
[13:53] <shiftplusone> but yeah, you have an interesting definition of 'resolved'
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[13:55] <niston> no segfault == is all good
[13:56] <shiftplusone> Ah, I'll keep that in mind when I poke around the raspberry pi firmware >.>
[13:56] <niston> haha ^^
[13:56] <shiftplusone> (Things would crash and burn with that approach XD)
[13:56] <niston> hope its not running on ... mono?
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[13:56] <shiftplusone> heh
[13:57] <shiftplusone> definitely not
[13:57] <niston> the reason for the sefault is that apparently mono insisted on loading the plugin library before the main one
[13:57] <shiftplusone> aye, I've read through the forum thread
[13:58] <niston> so yeah. a little black magic and all is good :>
[14:01] <cyberpolice> so this ups i got from cw2, i set it so i send wall message as superuser when AC power goes down, to warn all users that power is out and to save all documents
[14:01] <cyberpolice> i config it to run on battery for 1 min, then shutdown
[14:02] <cyberpolice> cool beans
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[14:10] <Bhaal> steve_rox: Sorry, yes, from 0micro seconds up to 6000000 microseconds
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[14:14] <shiftplusone> heh
[14:15] <shiftplusone> I'm working on something that needs as little latency as possible. Something that should not take more than 10 microseconds was taking 266 >=/
[14:16] <shiftplusone> turned out that was 266 microseconds to do it 0x3FFF times, and to do it once, you get a delay of somewhere between 0 and 1 microseconds.
[14:16] <shiftplusone> But there was a moment of panic
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[14:53] <niston> so instead of waking up to a preprogrammed time (alarm clock) you can wake up to the next bitcoin crash :>
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[15:02] <KKlouzal> these new raspberry pi compute modules are really intriguing me. I wish I knew more about integrated circuits!
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[15:05] <knob> KKlouzal, what do you want to know?
[15:05] <knob> Do you have a rPi right now?
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[15:05] <KKlouzal> no im thinking about getting a couple after watching all the videos on youtube about people creating clusters
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[15:07] <KKlouzal> the thought of running bullet physics on a cluster of rpi's gpu's makes me very excited
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[15:10] <mgottschlag> the last time I've tried to run programs on a cluster was enough so that I don't want to do that again for as long as possible
[15:11] <mgottschlag> I wonder how bandwidth intensive distributed physics simulations would be
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[15:12] <KKlouzal> yeah that was my first concern which made me look at the 'compute module' to attempt to add gigabit ethernet or even a fiber connection to a pi
[15:14] <pksato> CM have same limitation of model B/B+/A
[15:14] <pksato> only not have connectors.
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[15:15] <mgottschlag> I think the only really interesting approach was when shiftplusone tried to abuse the camera connector and chain a display connector to it or something like that
[15:16] <KKlouzal> it is to my understanding that you could in essence create a custom pcb with a gigabit ethernet controller to accept the compute module?
[15:16] <pksato> KKlouzal: usb2.0 ethernet controller.
[15:16] <mgottschlag> the compute module still only has USB 2.0, so a gigabit ethernet controller might increase speed a bit, but not that much
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[15:17] <KKlouzal> aah no faster communication medium available aside from usb2.0?
[15:17] <shiftplusone> mgottschlag, still at it >.>
[15:17] <mgottschlag> any progress?
[15:17] <pksato> KKlouzal: no.
[15:17] <mgottschlag> that sounded fun
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[15:17] <KKlouzal> aww
[15:17] <shiftplusone> mgottschlag, still figuring out all the limitations and workarounds.
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[15:17] <mgottschlag> I mean, fun in the "you are guaranteed to pull much hair out in the process"
[15:17] <mgottschlag> way
[15:18] <shiftplusone> it's not too bad
[15:19] <pksato> KKlouzal: but, have a CSI and DSI high speed serial lanes. for camera and display.
[15:19] <mgottschlag> OTOH, if you run bullet in lock-step mode, all you need to transfer is a couple thousands of vectors per simulation frame to update the objects you have not calculated locally, so it might actually work with rather low throughput
[15:19] <mgottschlag> but now I am talking about stuff I don't understand at all :)
[15:19] <shiftplusone> The issue with using CSI/DSI for this sort of thing is lots of latency
[15:20] <KKlouzal> well maybe in the future there will be pci lanes you can access :P
[15:20] <KKlouzal> or something like that
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[15:42] <mkjackson> hey folks, I was curious if my RPi has a base OS that could give some output if I don't have an SD-Card
[15:44] <pksato> yes, a black screen. (or blue, or a message "no input signal found"). RPi dont have a onboard firmware (bios, monitor, etc)
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[15:57] <niston> KKlouzal: such as microchip's LAN7500
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[16:01] <KKlouzal> oh thats a very nice controller niston
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[16:07] <niston> yep
[16:07] <niston> and unlike so many other network chips its readily available
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[16:09] <KKlouzal> I just hate how you have to go through USB, I figured using the compute module you could design a pcb to interface with any IC's you want and the pi
[16:10] <niston> well yeah theres the CSI/DSI route, but its completely unexplored and unchartered from what I know
[16:11] <niston> mebbe there's hidden functionality in the SoC to turn those lanes into a GMII or something :>
[16:11] <KKlouzal> I'm afraid I don't know what those are. I haven't gotten a pi yet and was just exploring possible options before getting one
[16:12] <niston> I mean who would have thought of this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pisupply/gert-vga-666-kit-hardware-vga-for-raspberry-pi
[16:12] <KKlouzal> lol nice
[16:12] <niston> apparently there's all kind of hidden stuff
[16:12] <niston> only bcm really knows ^^
[16:13] <mgottschlag> "hey, we have just spend a lot of manpower on desiging this really useful feature. let's just not advertise it, maybe nobody will find out" :p
[16:13] <niston> hehehe
[16:13] <niston> I think its more on the lines of "hey they didn't sign our NDA and are not paying us money, so they are not allowed to know" :P
[16:13] <mgottschlag> not really, the features have to be openly available for marketing
[16:14] <mgottschlag> the important ones
[16:14] <niston> you mean they would tell us if there were GMII support on the silicon? :>
[16:15] <niston> btw mgottschlag have you seen, I got that silly library to cooperate with mono :)
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[16:16] <mgottschlag> yeah
[16:18] <shiftplusone> Actually, the DPI documentation was skipped internally as well. There was no software support for it and it seemed like nothing was going to use it any time soon.
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[17:25] <Keanu73> Hi there
[17:25] <Keanu73> :)
[17:25] <KKlouzal> hola
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[17:36] <blaubarschbube_> hi. I am trying to set up a video conference system with rpi. streaming from the pi to a pc works great. I am trying to stream the other way around in the same manner but that doesnt work as well. the performance is about oen frame each 5 seconds or so. any suggestions? I did everything more or less like this http://blog.lgohlke.de/2014/02/09/babyphone-mit-dem-raspberry-pi.html it is in german but only the script mjpg_streamer is
[17:36] <blaubarschbube_> essential
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[18:10] <KKlouzal> This is an interesting chip, from what I can tell it could connect to the pi through it's spi bus http://www.asix.com.tw/products.php?op=pItemdetail&PItemID=104;65;86
[18:13] <mgottschlag> yeah, SPI is really slow though
[18:14] <shiftplusone> you're not going to get anything better than USB any time soon
[18:14] <shiftplusone> Well... maybe take a look at the SMI
[18:14] <KKlouzal> x)
[18:14] <shiftplusone> wait.. not smi...
[18:15] <shiftplusone> what's it called.. that parallel memory one...
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[18:16] <chris_99> SPI is not really slow, mgottschlag
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[18:16] <mgottschlag> well, a lot slower than USB in pretty much all cases
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[18:22] <shiftplusone> chris_99, certainly is in the current context.
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[18:26] <gordonDrogon> fastest I've cranked SPI at is 32Mb/sec. however the latency is somewhat high for short transfers...
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> that chip will only do 40Mb/sec max anyway.
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[18:28] <KKlouzal> well shoot. what is the maximum potential speed for usb on the pi?
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> 420Mb/sec.
[18:28] <KKlouzal> thank you
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[18:29] <niston> gordonDrogon why not 480mbps ?
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> sorry - it's 480.
[18:29] <niston> ah
[18:29] <shiftplusone> Would be difficult to squeeze it out without maxing the cpu or internal bandwidth
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> niston, just a bit of a typo/goof there.
[18:29] <niston> beware the hidden bandwidth eating monsters!
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> what is it you'retrying to do, KKlouzal ?
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[18:30] <shiftplusone> run crysis on a compute module super-computer.
[18:30] <KKlouzal> oh just brainstorming ;)
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[18:31] <KKlouzal> well i suppose i could use THIS chip :P http://www.asix.com.tw/products.php?op=pItemdetail&PItemID=131;71;112&PLine=71
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[18:31] <gordonDrogon> crysis is a videogame?
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[18:32] <gordonDrogon> KKlouzal, you're looking for high speed Pi to Pi comms?
[18:32] <KKlouzal> yes!
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> tricky.
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> I suspect you won't get much better than the on-board Ethernet for now.
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[18:33] <KKlouzal> after hours of research it seems like using USB to a gigabit ethernet controller is the fastest possible
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[18:33] <gordonDrogon> it might be interesting to see if it can go faster though.
[18:34] <KKlouzal> it doesnt look like the pi has any interfaces you can take advantage of that are going to give more bandwidth than usb
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[18:35] <Keanu73> Hmm
[18:35] <Keanu73> How do you like
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[18:36] <Keanu73> I'm trying to make a shell script that asks your for what you want it to be named, and then it opens nano with the name of the shell script he/she specified
[18:36] <Keanu73> I used read + select
[18:36] <Keanu73> but there was an error
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[18:37] <gordonDrogon> Keanu73, what you want what to be named?
[18:38] <Keanu73> gordonDrogon: The purpose of my shell script is to create a NEW shell script in nano.
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[18:38] <gordonDrogon> why not just type: nano filename
[18:38] <Keanu73> ._.
[18:38] <Keanu73> you don't understand me
[18:38] <gordonDrogon> maybe you're not explaining it well?
[18:38] <Keanu73> What it does:
[18:39] <Keanu73> 1. It asks the user for what it wants the new shell script to be named.
[18:39] <Keanu73> 2. It reads the input the user specified and opens the filename in nano.
[18:39] <Keanu73> ^^ the WHOLE purpose
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[18:40] <gordonDrogon> so you want a program to open a blank file in nano, or if your program reading in something else then opening it in nano?
[18:40] <ShorTie> what does the rest of the script do, that 'nano -w filename' not work for you ??
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> that's what I'm wondering...
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[18:40] <Keanu73> Urgh
[18:41] <Keanu73> this is the whole shell script
[18:41] <Keanu73> #!/bin/bash
[18:41] <Keanu73> echo "What do you want your shell script to be named? > "
[18:41] <Keanu73> read $text
[18:41] <Keanu73> select text in $text
[18:41] <Keanu73> nano $text
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> seems like you're overly complicating a trivial file creation/editing system...
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> yup. you're over complicating it.
[18:41] <Keanu73> do you get it?
[18:41] <ShorTie> or is this a school assignment ??
[18:41] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, yeah, even hooking up a usb->gbit ethernet adapter is faster than the on-board chip.
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> I don't get why you're even thinking of this when you can create/edit a file with one command.
[18:42] <Keanu73> well
[18:42] <Keanu73> but
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, anyone benchmarked it?
[18:42] <Keanu73> It's just a pain to like
[18:42] <shiftplusone> yeah, but I don't know the specifics
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> ... other than as an exercise in bash programming...
[18:42] <Keanu73> do "nano script.sh" all the time
[18:42] <Keanu73> it's a pain
[18:42] <Keanu73> and I want to make a shell script to do that instead
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> Keanu73, so you want: ./myscript.sh <enter> filename <enter>
[18:42] <nid0> so instead of nano scriptname.sh you want to do ./script.sh scriptname.sh?
[18:43] <Keanu73> yeah
[18:43] <KKlouzal> :P
[18:43] <Keanu73> exactly
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> if you remove the select line it will probably work.
[18:43] <shiftplusone> O_o
[18:43] <nid0> so you think nano scriptname.sh is too hard, and want to make it longer?
[18:43] <Keanu73> Kay
[18:43] <Keanu73> nid0: No it's just that it is a pain to do it all the time
[18:43] <Keanu73> it's like my brain explodes
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> just remove the line with select on it
[18:44] <nid0> but you're replacing typing nano all the time with executing your script all the time, and both have to be suffixed with the filename
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> oh, and read $text shoul be read text
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> not $ needed there.
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[18:44] <Keanu73> ok.
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> move the script to /usr/local/bin, chmod +x it and off you go.
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[18:45] <Keanu73> gordonDrogon: the script's in a folder in my /home/
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> so 4 lines: #!/bin/bash // echo -n "Filename: " // read filename // exec nano $filename
[18:45] <Keanu73> well
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> if you move it to ~/bin or /usr/local/bin then you won't need to type ./myscript.sh
[18:45] <Keanu73> I did it already
[18:46] <Keanu73> simply work
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[18:46] <Keanu73> works already
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[18:46] <Keanu73> :P
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> as long as you're happy.
[18:47] <Keanu73> ok but one more thing:
[18:47] <Keanu73> I want nano to WRITE the file and execute chmod +x $text.sh
[18:48] <Keanu73> I don't know how to write the file
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[18:48] <Keanu73> but I know how to chmod it
[18:48] <Keanu73> :P
[18:48] <skyroveRR> Use "echo".
[18:48] <Keanu73> Um.
[18:48] <Keanu73> Echo simply prints text.
[18:48] <skyroveRR> echo "Hello, happy file!" > /my/file.
[18:48] <nid0> touch filename chmod +x filename nano filename
[18:48] <Keanu73> Oh
[18:48] <skyroveRR> No, it can write as well.
[18:49] <skyroveRR> echo "Hello, happy file!" > /my/file; chmod +x /my/file
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[18:51] <Keanu73> :o thanks skyroveRR
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> touch $filename ; chmod +x $filename ; nano $filename
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[18:53] <Keanu73> gordonDrogon: wait a minute, what about if to write a line to it as well.
[18:53] <Keanu73> I want to write the line #!/bin/bash line and a
[18:53] <Keanu73> a new line
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[18:54] <ShorTie> if you want a 2nd line in that file or append a file use 'echo "blaa blaa" >> filename
[18:54] <skyroveRR> Why do you want to automate such a simple thing?
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[18:54] <nid0> you know, you'd get much better advice if you said what you want from the start rather than getting an answer then changing the goalposts
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[18:55] <gordonDrogon> Keanu73, I know programmers are lazy, but even *I* can type #!/bin/bash at the start of a shell script...
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[18:55] <Keanu73> I can type it too.
[18:55] <KKlouzal> watchout for shellshock! ;)
[18:55] <skyroveRR> Making a file, chmodding it and then opening it isn't that of a work, it takes less than 10 seconds.
[18:55] <nid0> echo -e "#!/bin/bash\n" > $filename ; chmod +x $filename ; nano $filename
[18:56] <Keanu73> lol I forgot about \n
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[18:57] <gordonDrogon> you don't need the -e nor the \n
[18:57] <Keanu73> kay
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> but some people may do it as a matter of-course anyway.. ask 100 programmers, get 257 answers.
[18:58] <skyroveRR> HA!
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[18:58] <nid0> actually, if you want to be properly lazy...
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[18:59] <ShorTie> always
[18:59] <nid0> echo "#!/bin/bash" > $filename ; chmod +x $filename ; nano +2 $filename ;
[18:59] <nid0> makes sure nano opens straight onto the 2nd line
[19:00] <Keanu73> I'm not too lazy
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> oh noes! You've written a program that writes a program... skynet in 3 .. 2 .. 1 ...
[19:00] <Keanu73> all I want is that and then I can write what I want myself
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[19:01] <Keanu73> :( please don't call me lazy
[19:02] <Keanu73> did you know I'm only a 8 year old kid
[19:02] <shana> so you're entitled to be lazy
[19:02] <gordonDrogon> don't stop learning...
[19:02] <Keanu73> that has linux command knowledge + windows knowledge
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[19:04] <shiftplusone> Gr.... I love crashes which go away if you put in some printks to help you debug them.
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[19:05] <Keanu73> shana: no
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[19:12] <shana> Keanu73: pfff, kids are totally entitled to be lazy without feeling guilty about it, that's the joy of childhood
[19:12] <Keanu73> .-.
[19:12] <Keanu73> I'm not lazy though
[19:12] <Keanu73> I always work hard in school, trying my best
[19:13] <Keanu73> If I was lazy I wouldn't do that work
[19:13] <Keanu73> That's the difference
[19:14] * shana is just teasing
[19:14] <Keanu73> LOL
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> programmers are traditionally lazy - just look at the commands we have: ls, vi, pwd, cwd, cd, and so on ... economy of typing :)
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[19:15] <shana> I'm so lazy I trained my cat to type #!/bin/bash for me
[19:15] <shiftplusone> programmers only exist to make things that take a lot of time take less time... ultimate laziness, no?
[19:15] <shana> comes out as 2#$%:uwogifhsd o;fid but she'll get there!
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> wish I could train my chickens... still they're good at 3 things. food goes in, eggs & poo comes out.
[19:15] <KKlouzal> its a paradox though shiftplusone
[19:16] <shiftplusone> Yup, the paradox was what I was going for =)
[19:16] <Keanu73> gordonDrogon: :(
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[19:18] <Keanu73> what are the commands vi and cwd, but is pwd passwd?
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> print working directory
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> try it...
[19:19] <Encrypt> Or man <cmd> :p
[19:19] <shana> yeah, some commands got there first
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[19:19] <Keanu73> oh vi is vim
[19:20] <shana> someone obviously had a need for getting the current directory printed out way before they wanted to set passwords
[19:20] <Keanu73> no manual page for cwd
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> well.. before vim there was vi
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> ah, cwd is an alias. chdir - which most people alias to cd
[19:20] <shiftplusone> cd is an alias!?
[19:21] <shiftplusone> lies!
[19:21] <Keanu73> how do I upgrade my RPi to kernel 3.17
[19:21] <Keanu73> now I only have 3.12.28+
[19:22] <Keanu73> and I want 3.17
[19:22] <Keanu73> instead
[19:22] <shana> I've used .. and ... and .... and ..... as aliases for so long that I don't remember cd anymore
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[19:23] <gordonDrogon> Keanu73, do you have a specific reason to chase bleeding edge kernels rather than stick to the long-term supported one that everyone else is using?
[19:23] <Keanu73> well
[19:24] <Keanu73> because one user here called mikroskeem, he has kernel version 3.17 on his Pi
[19:24] <Keanu73> I want to be like hi
[19:24] <Keanu73> *him
[19:24] <Keanu73> :p
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[19:25] <gordonDrogon> be like the rest of us and stick to tried, tested and stable. it's one less thing to worry about.
[19:25] <Keanu73> ok then :(
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[19:38] <shiftplusone> Hurray... caught the crash and know why it happened =)
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[19:39] <shiftplusone> Though there is no logical series of steps that 'why' could occur =/
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[19:40] <Keanu73> how do I unmount /dev/mmcblkOp2
[19:40] <Keanu73> :/
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> you can't normally.
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> that's the root filesystem - it's in-use.
[19:41] <Keanu73> fsck says it is mounted
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> yes - it is when the Pi is running.
[19:41] <Keanu73> and it says if I continue I will cause severe filesystem damage
[19:41] <Keanu73> by the way]
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> you should never need to check a running/live filesystem.
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[19:41] <gordonDrogon> yes it does - take heed of that message.
[19:42] <Keanu73> I noticed on the START command line of Pi that volume is not properly unmounted (or maybe mounted I don't know)
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> that's probably ok - it would check as part of the boot process.
[19:42] <Keanu73> ok
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[19:44] <Keanu73> what does the yellow colours of files in terminal mean
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> no idea - I turn colours off.
[19:45] <Keanu73> aha
[19:45] <Keanu73> it's a block device
[19:45] <Keanu73> thanks to file manager
[19:47] <Keanu73> what's that file named for startup commands
[19:47] <Keanu73> is it bash.rc or bash_rc
[19:48] <Hello71> neither.
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> user startup or system startup?
[19:48] <Keanu73> user startup
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[19:49] <gordonDrogon> it depends on the shell - which is probably bash in your case - look for .profile and .bashrc (leading dot)
[19:49] <Keanu73> oh
[19:49] <Keanu73> thanks
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> ls -a is the command to show all the files with the hidden (dot) files.
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[22:02] <frew> so does the fact that debian will support armhf mean that raspbian will just be debian instead of a fork?
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[22:04] <ShorTie> there is more to raspbian then just armhf
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[22:15] <zvonimir> I've copied NOOBS and installed raspbian for the first time today, only to have it crashed while connecting the ethernet cable before getting to configure it
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[22:16] <zvonimir> "Crashed" is not necessarily the best word here since the HDMI cable was a little loose so I've lost picture...
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[22:16] <zvonimir> I didn't notice that so I pulled the plug (in order to reboot it, or so I thought)
[22:17] <zvonimir> I wasn't able to boot it later.
[22:17] <shiftplusone> frew, raspbian tries to be as close to debian as possible, yes. However, it's considered a debian derivative, not debian. It's not managed by the debian people.
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[22:17] <zvonimir> Reformated and copied NOOBS again in several ways with no luck (the green LED doesn't flash)
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[22:18] <zvonimir> Ended up dd-ing the raspbian and I still can't get it to boot.
[22:18] <zvonimir> I'm out of ideas :(
[22:18] <shiftplusone> zvonimir, is this a b or a b+?
[22:18] <zvonimir> Is anyone more experienced able to come up with some?
[22:18] <zvonimir> shiftplusone: b+
[22:19] <zvonimir> just got it yesterday
[22:20] <shiftplusone> Does the red LED come on and stay on? Same with the ACT LED?
[22:20] <zvonimir> shiftplusone: yup, all the time
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[22:20] <shiftplusone> sounds like it's having trouble reading the card, unless it's not imaged correctly.
[22:20] <shiftplusone> Can you paste the exact dd command you used?
[22:21] <zvonimir> shiftplusone: sure
[22:21] <zvonimir> dd bs=4M if=2014-09-09-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/mmcblk0
[22:21] <shiftplusone> yup, looks good.
[22:22] <zvonimir> sounds like it, yes, that's why I went with the dd approach to avoid formating it myself, I thought that might have been the issue
[22:22] <shiftplusone> Can you verify that the writer works? Are you able to plug the card back to the PC and check the first partition?
[22:22] <zvonimir> shiftplusone: it worked the first time
[22:23] <zvonimir> and after dd-ing, I have 2 partitions
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[22:23] <shiftplusone> does the first contain bootcode.bin?
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[22:24] <zvonimir> boot, with all bins and elfs, including bootcode.bin
[22:24] <zvonimir> and another one which seems to contain a filesystem
[22:24] <shiftplusone> got another card to try? maybe check for dust in the slot?
[22:24] <zvonimir> the slot on the pi?
[22:24] <shiftplusone> aye
[22:25] <zvonimir> I'll recheck
[22:25] <shiftplusone> i'd get it replaced if nothing worka
[22:25] <zvonimir> I don't have a second card atm
[22:25] <shiftplusone> *works
[22:25] <zvonimir> sec
[22:27] <zvonimir> blowing the slot like a maniac until I got dizzy didn't help, so I guess dust is out of the question
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[22:28] <zvonimir> what might have gone wrong with the sd card? I got through the whole install with it
[22:30] <shiftplusone> No idea
[22:30] <shiftplusone> all the common problems have been ruled out so....
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[22:32] <zvonimir> yup, I went through the troubleshooting before getting here
[22:32] <Sonny_Jim> Second hand Pi?
[22:32] <zvonimir> I remembered I have a card in my phone
[22:32] <Munt> Hello folks, I was hoping you could provide me with some advice on which way to go with my project. If I am collecting information and publishing it to a database on my Pi (which could then be hosted to the internet for arguments sake). How do I go about interacting with the data in that database? Can I do it somehow with python? Or is there a better way to do these sorts of things ? I'm not looking for a detailed explanation ... more along
[22:32] <Munt> lines of which learning path to take.
[22:32] <zvonimir> let's try it :)
[22:33] <KKlouzal> munt there are plenty of libraries available to interact with databases, I'm sure there are quite a few for python also
[22:35] <Sonny_Jim> Depends what format the database is
[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> Normally I just use sqlite as there's support for different languages to read it (C/Python/etc)
[22:36] <Munt> Cool ... so I don't need a website ... just an SQL database with a program running natively on the Pi analysing it.
[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> Depends on how you want to present the information you've scraped out the db
[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> But if you just want to pull figures out of it, there's command line utils for SQL
[22:37] <Sonny_Jim> Plus it's never a bad thing to learn a bit of SQL
[22:37] <Munt> sounds worthwhile
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[22:38] <zvonimir> shiftplusone: is it possible I wrecked the pi somehow?
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[22:39] * Munt thanks Sonny_Jim and KKlouzal for the input
[22:39] <shana> zvonimir: I've had sd card troubles before, some cards just aren't very good or go bad
[22:39] <KKlouzal> ^.^ look into postgresql its free, open-source, and good on performance
[22:39] <shana> ran through 3 cards at a conference while desperately trying to get a demo going
[22:40] <shiftplusone> zvonimir, doesn't sound like you've done anything that should cause it. Just return it.
[22:40] <zvonimir> shiftplusone: you mean the card to the store?
[22:40] <Munt> I plan on taking the data produced by an Arduino via i2c to the Pi which will then deposit the data in a SQL database for storage and processing.
[22:41] <shiftplusone> the pi
[22:41] <shiftplusone> unless it works with another card
[22:41] <zvonimir> shana: I only ran it once, new from the store
[22:42] <frew> shiftplusone: yeah but I mean, Lenny is supposed to support armhf so I was wondering if raspbian would become even more of a thin wrapper, basically a premade image for netinst
[22:42] <Munt> is there amuch differences between interacting with postgresql and sqlite ?
[22:42] <zvonimir> shiftplusone: I'm working on testing that out, I have to first backup the card from the phone
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[22:43] <shana> zvonimir: then +1 on what shiftplusone, most likely you had bad luck with the pi, doesn't sound like you did anything wrong
[22:43] <shiftplusone> frew, eh? different armhf. All of the raspbian packages are recompiled from source.
[22:43] <shiftplusone> frew, the pi is armv6, debian is armv7
[22:43] <frew> shiftplusone: no I mean lenny, directly from debian, is supposed to build to armhf
[22:44] <frew> oh I didn't see that, sorry
[22:44] <zvonimir> shana: how often does that happen?
[22:44] <shana> zvonimir: bad cards? sometimes, depends on the type of card
[22:44] <zvonimir> they say every board is tested and booted before
[22:44] <shiftplusone> if the card if genuine and not an ebay fake, it's very unlikely the card is the problem
[22:45] <shana> zvonimir: bad pis, can happen, might be extra sensitive to something
[22:45] <shiftplusone> The worst thing that we know of is that some class 10 cards are problematic, but that gives different symptoms
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[22:45] <shiftplusone> bad pis are rare, especially after moving production out of china
[22:45] <zvonimir> shiftplusone: these are class 4 both
[22:45] <shana> did you get them with the pi?
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[22:46] <zvonimir> shana: no, bought them separately
[22:46] <zvonimir> shana: it worked first time with the NOOBS
[22:46] <niston> hi shana ^^
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[22:47] <niston> problem fixed, thanks again :)
[22:47] <shana> cool :)
[22:47] <shana> zvonimir: I would go back to the store and have them test the pi
[22:48] <shana> or just replace it outright
[22:48] <zvonimir> well, they'll have to test it anyway to make sure it's not working properly
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[22:50] <zvonimir> we'll see with another card in a couple of minutes, I'm dd-ing wheezy
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[23:08] <zvonimir> I guess I'll be replacing it
[23:08] <zvonimir> doesn't work with a second card either
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[23:13] <zvonimir> shana, shiftplusone: is it ok if I powered it from a computer?
[23:15] <shiftplusone> that's usually a bad idea
[23:15] <shiftplusone> but if the red LED remains on, it 'should' be okay.
[23:15] <zvonimir> what's a better idea?
[23:15] <shiftplusone> But I wouldn't recommend it.
[23:15] <shiftplusone> a proper, genuine charger
[23:15] <zvonimir> should phone carger do?
[23:15] <zvonimir> charger*
[23:16] <shiftplusone> What's the current rating on it
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[23:16] <zvonimir> like the one for nexus 7
[23:16] <shiftplusone> yeah, definitely
[23:16] <zvonimir> ok, great
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[23:17] <zvonimir> I gotta get some sleep now and continue this tomorrow
[23:17] <zvonimir> I hope to see you guys here again :)
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[23:17] <zvonimir> bye!
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[23:20] <shana> niston: so what was the issue?
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[23:22] <[Saint]> 'sup ballsacks?
[23:24] * Munt 's Ballack says hello ...
[23:24] <Munt> ^s
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[23:26] <shiftplusone> Is that necessary?
[23:27] <a1fa> anybody know of a small torqy servo that does not mind heat (under the hood of a car)
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[23:40] <Sonny_Jim> a1fa: Depends, do you really need a servo or will something magnetically activated do the job?
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[23:41] <Sonny_Jim> Or maybe an actuator
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[23:45] <a1fa> Sonny_Jim: i wanted to control a fan flap on a type4 engine
[23:45] <a1fa> http://www.ratwell.com/dotmac/Pictures/Engine2/06-AsymmetricFlaps.jpg
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[23:45] <a1fa> actuator may work too
[23:45] <Sonny_Jim> What sort of control, multiple positions or just on/off?
[23:46] <ShorTie> l00ks like a vw engine
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[23:46] <Sonny_Jim> Looks like a boxer
[23:46] <Sonny_Jim> or a flat-4
[23:46] <gordonDrogon> put the servo further away and use a push/pull rod.
[23:46] <a1fa> type4 boxer ;)
[23:47] <a1fa> Sonny_Jim: maybe on/off and maybe something in between
[23:47] <ShorTie> use a chock spring
[23:47] <Sonny_Jim> Or an old throttle cable attached to an assembly, put the other end in the cockpit and control it manually ;-)
[23:47] <ShorTie> you know, bymetal type thing
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[23:52] <a1fa> at that point i can just put the stock thing back in
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