#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2014-10-08

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

[15:56] -tepper.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
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[15:56] -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
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[15:56] -NickServ- You are now identified for DataBot.
[15:56] -MemoServ- You have 2 new memos.
[15:56] -MemoServ- To read them, type /msg MemoServ READ NEW
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[15:56] * Topic is 'Unofficial RaspberryPi IRC channel but "Blessed" by the Foundation as the ONE channel. Logs @ http://srv.datagutt1.com <> Channel Rules as of 6 May '14: http://tiny.cc/h7za1w <> Getting help on IRC: http://tiny.cc/p9za1w <>'
[15:56] * Set by IT_Sean!~Ult_Ubunt@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1 on Tue May 06 21:39:57 CEST 2014
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[16:00] <shiftplusone> datagutt, yup. We aren't paying you for broken bots. =P
[16:01] <datagutt> haven't seen any checks yet
[16:01] <datagutt> :)
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[16:01] <shiftplusone> Well, we aren't paying you at all, but that's just one of the things we're not paying you for. >.>
[16:01] <datagutt> haha
[16:02] <datagutt> Well, my bot doesn't exactly like being disconnected
[16:02] <datagutt> he reconnects, but doesn't rejoin any channel
[16:02] <datagutt> i blame it on the shitty java library it runs on
[16:02] <datagutt> I should never have used software written by anyone else than me
[16:03] <datagutt> I got a new custom bot ready for use, but i need to write a compatible logging plugin
[16:03] <datagutt> .. easier to restart the bot once in a while than write code
[16:03] * datagutt is lazy
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[16:04] <datagutt> also, i hope the "s"-word isn't regarded as swearing
[16:05] <datagutt> not so sure about the strictness of the policy
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[16:09] <shiftplusone> It is, but we eased up on it
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[16:14] <gordonDrogon> think of the children ...
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[16:17] <SpeedEvil> datagutt: depends which swearword.
[16:17] <SpeedEvil> Clearly not if it's sys***d
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[16:17] <datagutt> SpeedEvil: Nah
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[17:42] <lufix> Hi. I've got a little trouble figuring out which revision Pi I have based on http://elinux.org/Board_revisions
[17:43] <lufix> Mine has got mounting holes, a black audio port, Made in China markings and network link is labeled 100
[17:43] <lufix> I'm guessing it's revision 2, right?
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[17:47] <shiftplusone> lufix, yes, why?
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[17:47] <shiftplusone> (most likely, anyway)
[17:48] <shiftplusone> /proc/cpuinfo would be the surest way to tell
[17:48] <lufix> Of course, will try that.
[17:48] <lufix> Well I've bought two different usb hubs (thinking one of them may backfeed) but turns out both of them do.
[17:49] <lufix> I've read somewhere that later revisions of the pi do not consider this a problem?
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[17:51] <shiftplusone> well, it's always a problem, since you're bypassing input protection, but the rev2 won't have polyfuses on that end, allowing the pi to be fully powered that way.
[17:51] <shiftplusone> if you have mounting holes, yes, it will work.
[17:53] <lufix> Ah thank you. I was worried it would still be a problem. I guess I'll modify a cable and cut 5V. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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[17:59] <shiftplusone> I never worried about it. As long as I know I have close to 5V, I'm happy.
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[18:39] <irc_smirk> hi
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[18:41] <ZER0C001> hello
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[18:44] <flexus> hi
[18:44] <quantum-mechanic> hello
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[18:46] <irc_smirk> so i figured out how to setup my pi last nigth
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[18:47] <irc_smirk> and when i ssh its all good. however my ssh window dies after a period of inactivity. is there a setting to keep it alive all the time?
[18:47] <flexus> did you look at sshd.conf ?
[18:47] <flexus> there should be some timeout section
[18:48] <irc_smirk> nope brand new to all this. thanks
[18:48] <irc_smirk> is that on my osx going into pi or in the pi?
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[18:48] <flexus> the ssh daemon on the pi
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[18:48] <flexus> server sided
[18:48] <irc_smirk> kay
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[18:49] <flexus> cant check at the moment- recovering some sd image
[18:50] <flexus> got some corrupted file system and having trouble with overall filesystem
[18:51] * skyroveRR uses his hard disk as his rootfs.
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[18:52] <flexus> maybe some good idea, will play around with it
[18:52] <DoctorBTC> wild>> http://resin.io/blog/what-would-you-do-with-a-120-raspberry-pi-cluster/
[18:52] <DoctorBTC> http://imgur.com/6iotTuj.png
[18:53] <flexus> so my usb hdd is fat32 formated,i'm not sure if i can use it as rootfs
[18:54] <flexus> i had some expectation that i'd use it sometimes on win machines, so fat32
[18:55] <flexus> maybe makin some ext4 parition for it
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[18:58] <ZER0C001> i need to figure out what to do with my pi
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[19:03] <ring0> test how much current it can handle
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[19:11] <irc_smirk> zero - install node red :)
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[19:15] <irc_smirk> ZER0C001 - you can use nodered to automate stuff. like search craigslist for stuff (jobs, items) and then email you or turn on your fan etc
[19:16] <ZER0C001> oh geeze thats handy
[19:16] <ZER0C001> im thinking of picking up a model B pi as well since they are on ebay for 35 bucks
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[19:18] <irc_smirk> i dunno what makes me giddy about having a pi. i feel i have my own 24/7 server for the first time
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> heh
[19:18] <irc_smirk> my own robot
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> I understand what you mean
[19:18] <ZER0C001> I use it to put my Amiga 3000 online
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> When I first had my fileserver under the stairs in the cupboard, it was the coolest thing in the world
[19:19] <Sonny_Jim> Squeezed out a 200+ day uptime on it as well
[19:19] <ZER0C001> see I just let my mac do all the file serving
[19:19] <irc_smirk> zero- something to be said about having privacy too
[19:19] <Sonny_Jim> One day I noticed it had stopped working, dropped off the network, so I put a monitor and keyboard on it and had a look. Had loads of out of memory errors
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[19:20] <Sonny_Jim> So I shut it down, took the case off and had a look. One of the slices of RAM had fallen out (!)
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[19:20] <ZER0C001> Ill probably pick up another one of these Pi's because they are so cheap on ebay
[19:20] <Sonny_Jim> The funny part was, looking through the logs, it had struggled along for about half a day before a cron job kicked in at midnight and caused it to meltdown
[19:21] <Sonny_Jim> +1 for Linux
[19:21] <ZER0C001> linux is pretty handy
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[19:25] <ZER0C001> I wonder if 35 bucks is fair for a pi with case & power adapter. Its a model B too
[19:27] <irc_smirk> dude why not get the latest greatest
[19:27] <ZER0C001> already got a B+
[19:27] <irc_smirk> though with case+power it sounds good. as long as its not a bad system of course
[19:27] <ZER0C001> but I need one I can just connect to the amiga, set it and forget it
[19:27] <ZER0C001> plus there isnt any GPIO starter kits out for the B+ yet
[19:28] <Sonny_Jim> Just get a USB serial port
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[19:28] <Sonny_Jim> Easy peasy
[19:28] <Sonny_Jim> No faffing around with voltage convertors
[19:29] <ZER0C001> yeah ive got a stack of USB serial adapters, I got 2 of em on the B+ right now, one providing Serial to the amiga 3000, the other providing serial to the DEC VT420 Terminal
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[19:30] <PovAddictW> I should have got my dad to buy me a powered USB hub when he was in the US :(
[19:30] <irc_smirk> amiga 3000 = that was a very expensive system in its day
[19:30] <ZER0C001> still is a very expensive system
[19:30] <ZER0C001> i got 400 bucks into mine
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[19:30] <PovAddictW> I didn't think I'd need one, but it seems my rpi can't power my Wi-Fi USB dongle even alone
[19:31] <PovAddictW> :(
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[19:32] <flexus> PovAddictW: are you sure?
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[19:32] <flexus> shouldnt be that much
[19:32] <PovAddictW> it resets
[19:33] <Sonny_Jim> When you plug it in....
[19:33] <flexus> make some sudo lsusb -v | grep -Ei '(idVendor|MaxPower)'
[19:34] <PovAddictW> I thought the problem was that it couldn't power the Wi-Fi dongle and my HDMI-to-VGA adapter (through the HDMI port) at the same time
[19:34] <PovAddictW> it resets and shows screen garbage until I unplug the dongle
[19:34] <PovAddictW> but I tried plugging the Wi-Fi thing alone with no display and it also resets
[19:35] <Sonny_Jim> Then don't plug it in whilst it's turned on?
[19:35] <ZER0C001> or use a Powered USB hub
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[19:42] <irc_smirk> whats the command to find how much diskspace im using/hav eleft
[19:42] <Sonny_Jim> df -h
[19:42] <Sonny_Jim> drive free, humanise
[19:43] <irc_smirk> thanks
[19:43] <Sonny_Jim> du -ch
[19:44] <Sonny_Jim> and the other useful one is:
[19:44] <Sonny_Jim> ls -lh
[19:44] <Sonny_Jim> list, long, humanise
[19:44] <ZER0C001> I wonder if i should get a larger SD card for the pi
[19:44] <ZER0C001> or is 8GB enough
[19:44] <Sonny_Jim> Should be more than enough for an OS
[19:45] <irc_smirk> i got 4. grumble grumble adafruit
[19:45] <ZER0C001> walmart had the 16GB ones on sale for 10 bucks, was thinking of snagging one
[19:45] <Sonny_Jim> iirc the minimum needed is 4GB
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[19:45] <ZER0C001> but if 8GB is enough why spend the cash ya know
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[19:46] <irc_smirk> zeroc001 - we need you in the treasury
[19:46] <ZER0C001> whys that lol
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[19:46] <irc_smirk> cause you know how to economize the pennies and dimes
[19:46] <ZER0C001> I live on $721 dollars a month
[19:47] <ZER0C001> i know how to live tight
[19:47] <irc_smirk> sheesh
[19:47] <irc_smirk> do you lieve with your parents
[19:47] <ZER0C001> nope my gf and I live together
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[19:47] <ZER0C001> she goes to school full time
[19:47] <irc_smirk> own a car?
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[19:47] <ZER0C001> yup I do
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[19:47] <ZER0C001> well not a car, a full size truck
[19:48] <irc_smirk> you must live in a cheap state/country
[19:48] <ZER0C001> im in michigan
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[19:48] <irc_smirk> my rent alone is $800
[19:48] <ZER0C001> crappy state
[19:48] <ZER0C001> our rent here is 550
[19:48] <ZER0C001> for a 2 bedroom 1 bath place
[19:48] <ZER0C001> plus we have 3 kids between the 2 of us
[19:48] <irc_smirk> and my food bill is $400 for one person and thats if im eating decent
[19:48] <irc_smirk> what??
[19:48] <ZER0C001> wow, I can do it on 200 bucks easy
[19:49] <irc_smirk> how on earth are you feeding 3 kids on 200+ a month?
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[19:49] <ZER0C001> she was getting 400 a month in food assistance too
[19:49] <irc_smirk> ahh
[19:49] <ZER0C001> and the kids arent here all the time
[19:49] <irc_smirk> thats a different story
[19:49] <ZER0C001> they are with there dad and my son is with his mom so they come each 3 days a week
[19:50] <irc_smirk> well when you factor in other peoples money then its not really what you say it is
[19:50] <irc_smirk> but stil. good for you
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[19:51] <NGC3982> Hi. Does anyone of you guys use Tellprox software with Tellstick on your Pi?
[19:51] <NGC3982> I'm having issues making it work with my external IP.
[19:51] <irc_smirk> i dont get jack nothing assistance from anyone or anything
[19:51] <NGC3982> It works fine with the LAN ip.
[19:51] <ZER0C001> i hate getting food assistance but it helps alot
[19:52] <irc_smirk> ng - no idea sorry
[19:52] <ZER0C001> plus I run a small business on the side
[19:52] <irc_smirk> food is getting crazy
[19:52] <ZER0C001> to help with expenses
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[20:01] <gordonDrogon> ZER0C001, you don't need any sort of specific B+ gpio starter kit - any that work on the B2 will work on the B+
[20:04] <ZER0C001> ah cool, Guess ill get one of those GPIO breakout boards then with a bunch of goodies
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[20:12] <gordonDrogon> plenry to choose from. but just get some jumper wires and a breadboard will be good enough to start with.
[20:13] <ZER0C001> cool, right now I use my B+ for running PPP to my Amiga, was thinking of grabbing another and building a digital picture frame
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> not sure how you need gpio for that, but a couple of buttons, I guess...
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[20:23] <irc_smirk> what kind of browser does an amiga have?
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[20:35] <DoctorBTC> gordonDrogon: any experience with debouncing buttons on GPIO? I'm having a terrible time getting my cb function to not fire twice 50% of the time
[20:38] <Sonny_Jim> Could you post the code?
[20:39] <DoctorBTC> sure Sonny_Jim.. one sec
[20:39] <SpeedEvil> DoctorBTC: how long are you assuming bounces may be?
[20:39] <pksato> read, if pressed, wait ms, read again, if pressend do the job.
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[20:41] <DoctorBTC> Sonny_Jim: here's the code... https://www.refheap.com/5a82ec9ea5551ec88cbfe571b
[20:42] <DoctorBTC> there's a few stray defs in there from when i was trying to get it debounce
[20:42] <DoctorBTC> i've since tried some things using wait time, but i don't have the code available (it
[20:42] <DoctorBTC> (it's on the device that isn't avail right now)
[20:43] <DoctorBTC> SpeedEvil: i just want to make sure the cb function runs once, which seems like half the time it gets run twice
[20:43] <DoctorBTC> oh, it does take about 20-60 sec for the cb function to complete
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[20:46] <Sonny_Jim> Jeez, not very security minded that code
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[20:46] <Sonny_Jim> I would write a very simple bit of code to check that the hardware is working
[20:47] <Sonny_Jim> Maybe just something that increments a variable on each button push
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[20:53] <diakonos> has anyone experienced noise caused by environmental factors to the point where it changed the state of the GPIO (e.g. from high to low)?
[20:53] <pksato> while callback is processing, if button is pressed again, call callback again to?
[20:55] <shiftplusone> diakonos, that depends on wire length and pull strength.
[20:56] <ShorTie> DoctorBTC, for debounce sakes, it's better to read button when released then when pushed
[20:57] <diakonos> pksato: could you be more specific?
[20:57] <hosler> diakonos: lol no
[20:57] <pksato> diakonos: is not for you.
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[20:58] <diakonos> the prototype I'm building has a wire length of 5 inches and pulls 4-6 ma
[20:58] <hosler> diakonos: it would take a lot of noise to change the logic voltage
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[20:58] <shiftplusone> No it wouldn't
[20:58] <hosler> no?
[20:58] <shiftplusone> A lightswitch can do it easily
[20:58] <hosler> oh never mind then
[20:59] <diakonos> I'm looking for noise like heat/humidity/pressure etc
[21:00] <shiftplusone> eh?
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[21:00] <diakonos> noise *caused by* heat, humidity, pressure etc
[21:00] <Sonny_Jim> Electromagnetic noise?
[21:01] <ShorTie> never heard of such a thing, except for thunder, lighting and rain
[21:01] <shiftplusone> I don't see how that's possible in this scenario
[21:01] <Sonny_Jim> have you set the pull down/pull ups on the GPIO?
[21:01] <SpeedEvil> Sufficient heat can cause charge seperation and EMP
[21:01] <SpeedEvil> >>10KK over a large volume
[21:02] <shiftplusone> .... I don't think that's the issue here.
[21:02] <diakonos> Sonny_Jim: yes on some GPIOs others I've set the state
[21:02] <Sonny_Jim> Set the pull down/pull ups on any GPIO you intend to use
[21:04] <diakonos> thanks for the feedback - sounds like it would take extreme environmental issues to change the state
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[21:34] <DoctorBTC> pksato: yes, if the button is pressed during the processing of the function, it will get called again when it is completed
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[21:37] <DoctorBTC> ShorTie: the circuit I borrowed had the button pin pulled down, so i figure that falling edge would be the button released...
[21:39] <DoctorBTC> Sonny_Jim: i feel like if done tests when getting the button thing figured out and it wasn't having the debounce problem.. hence I moved it into the code for this app... but I did read somewhere that perhaps functions that take a long time to return can affect the debounce?
[21:39] <DoctorBTC> *if > I've
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[21:41] <ShorTie> either way, still debouce is easier to handle when button is released i believe
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[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> The way I used to do it with a pinball table was this:
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> Have a timer that increments whilst the button is held down
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[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> If the timer was less than a certain value when the button was released, ignore the button press
[21:47] <Luke-Jr> what are the downsides to a vanilla 3.17 kernel on RPi B+?
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[21:51] <shiftplusone> Luke-Jr, When something doesn't work (and lots of things won't), you're mostly on your own.
[21:52] <Luke-Jr> :|
[21:52] <Luke-Jr> no docs on what won't?
[21:53] <shiftplusone> If those docs are out there, you're on your own in looking for them ;)
[21:53] <Luke-Jr> -.-
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[21:54] <shiftplusone> So use the official foundation kernel like the rest of us plebs, unless you're a kernel dev looking to fill in the gaps and are willing jump through the necessary hoops to get things upstream.
[21:55] <Luke-Jr> shiftplusone: at least the one in Raspbian seems to be missing a driver I need
[21:55] <Luke-Jr> # iz listphy
[21:55] <Luke-Jr> Could not get multicast group ID: No such file or directory
[21:55] <shiftplusone> I am guessing it's just a matter of compiling it yourself.
[21:56] <Luke-Jr> all the docs suggest I need net-next of some variation
[21:56] <shiftplusone> or is it something not available in 3.12 at all?
[21:56] <Luke-Jr> right
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[21:56] <brian1001> tomorrow my new B+ :)
[21:56] <flexus> 3.12 works on rpi
[21:56] <Luke-Jr> I'm looking at http://openlabs.co/blog/archives/1-6LoWPAN-kernel-on-a-Raspberry-Pi
[21:57] <shiftplusone> Looks like fun
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[21:57] <Luke-Jr> actually, 3.12 does seem to have the driver in the code.. probably not standards compliant tho
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[22:40] <gordonDrogon> DoctorBTC, got your de-bounce issue sorted?
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[22:42] <gadgetoid> Gotta de-bounce! Unless you're Tigger, Tiggers like to bounce...
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> boing!
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> (said zebidee)
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[22:44] <gadgetoid> Ah, next week is going to be an interesting one ;)
[22:44] <gordonDrogon> yes...
[22:45] <DoctorBTC> gordonDrogon: well, i've been trying similar solutions (timing between presses, etc) and it seems I have yet to get it sorted
[22:46] <DoctorBTC> I have another version of the code on the device, but I don't have access to it for a few hours
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> DoctorBTC, the usual way is to: repeat - wait 20mS then loop if still pushed.
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> you can improve it at the expense of more cpu by spinning until released then wait 20mS and see if it's pushed, then repeat...
[22:46] <DoctorBTC> so just polling the pin?
[22:47] <gordonDrogon> every 20mS
[22:47] <gordonDrogon> if this is inside an ISR, then you can set a timer (read gettimofday()) and ignore interrupts until 20mS is up.
[22:48] <DoctorBTC> i'll give this another shot tonight. Seems like it is the little things that take the most time
[22:48] <DoctorBTC> ISR?
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> simple push buttons are unpredictable too - some bounce on push, some on release,
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> interrupt service routine
[22:49] <DoctorBTC> any links to samples you know of? I've found tons of debouncing and button guides, but I'm still having my problems, so i am beginning to get frustrated :P
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> I don't think I have any links - it's not something I really think about - just do the 20mS wait and re-check.
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[22:50] <Luke-Jr> does B+ take the same kernels as B?
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> Luke-Jr, yes - but it needs a relatively up to date one.
[22:51] <gordonDrogon> Luke-Jr, so putting an SD card into the B+ that's a few months old might not boot it.
[22:51] <gordonDrogon> Luke-Jr, if that's what you're doing, just run an apt-get update/upgrade first.
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[22:51] <Luke-Jr> gordonDrogon: I'm merging https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/tree/rpi-3.16.y into 3.17
[22:51] <gordonDrogon> Luke-Jr, good luck.
[22:51] <ZER0C001> im just putting RiscOS onto the pi
[22:51] <ZER0C001> gotta see how that runs
[22:51] <Luke-Jr> buuuuuut… someone JUST pushed a https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/tree/rpi-3.17.y
[22:52] <Luke-Jr> does it being pushed mean it's done/usable?
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> ZER0C001, it will run very well... in a 20-year old sort of way.
[22:52] <ZER0C001> nice
[22:52] <ZER0C001> ive never used it before
[22:52] <ZER0C001> i collect vintage computers so it should be fun
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> I had an acorn Arc once upon 2 decades ago.
[22:52] <ZER0C001> I have an Amiga 3000 here
[22:53] <ZER0C001> along with an Apple IIGS, various unix workstations
[22:53] <Luke-Jr> who maintains these github repos?
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[22:54] <gordonDrogon> ZER0C001, I started on Apple II's, so I have a few and a //c
[22:54] <ZER0C001> okay so RiscOS is kind of dumb lol
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> ZER0C001, but you want retro, then . http://unicorn.drogon.net/stuff/mk14.jpg ;-)
[22:54] <ZER0C001> nice
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[22:54] <gordonDrogon> ZER0C001, it was good 20 years ago, but got left behind. sad in a way.
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[22:55] <ZER0C001> yeah id say so. I had a spare microSD card so i figured id see what it was like
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[22:55] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Is that a NINE digit retro bubble display I see in there? :D
[22:56] <Luke-Jr> gordonDrogon: I guess worst case I just swap the vanilla kernel back in, right? :p
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[22:56] <gordonDrogon> gadgetoid, yes ... but the 9th is empty.
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> Luke-Jr, I guess so...
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[22:57] <gordonDrogon> Luke-Jr, I compiled up a kernel for the Pi some 2+ years ago as an excercise, then decided to stick to the published ones.
[22:57] <Luke-Jr> I don't have that option unfortunately
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[22:58] <gordonDrogon> no?
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[22:58] <BorgCuba> hi, my b+ model keeps on rebooting (5.25V@2.1Amax) -> http://pastebin.com/azLbr9bG
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[22:58] <Luke-Jr> gordonDrogon: it lacks the driver for the 6lowpan module
[22:59] <ZER0C001> gonna build a digital picture frame out of a B i think
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[22:59] <gordonDrogon> back later. more bake-off tv to watch.
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[23:03] <flexus> BorgCuba: so your usb hub causing it?
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[23:09] <BorgCuba> flexus, only power supply and ft232 connected (so basically nothing external)
[23:10] <BorgCuba> ft232 is powered by the pc
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[23:11] <flexus> without usb hub it reboots too ?
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[23:17] <Sonny_Jim> Change the PSU
[23:17] <Sonny_Jim> It's not strong enough
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[23:17] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=143582
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[23:20] <ZER0C001> okay so the airplay component of the pi is kickass
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[23:24] <[Saint]> Merry Happy Lunareclipsemas.
[23:25] <[Saint]> ZER0C001: not pi-specfic, but, yes. It is.
[23:25] <ZER0C001> been playing with the available options for it
[23:25] <[Saint]> Apple hasn't solely had that trick up their sleves for a few years.
[23:25] <ZER0C001> I plan to build a media panel for my kitchen
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[23:26] <[Saint]> Its fine if you're storing the content on a local drive.
[23:26] <[Saint]> A /little/ painful (depending on the media) if you're using network attached storage.
[23:26] <ZER0C001> right, gonna just have it connect to my server and grab images and stuff
[23:26] <ZER0C001> sounds like it
[23:27] <[Saint]> As long as you don't mean gigantic RAW images, and 1080p blueray DVD rips, you'll be fine.
[23:27] <ZER0C001> yeah none of that
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[23:27] <[Saint]> Most major codecs (except the _insane_ APE variants) will play in realtime when streamed.
[23:27] <ZER0C001> just want to have an airplay reciever in the kitchen that displays photos, weather updates and news
[23:28] <[Saint]> Network and throughput is the pi's downfall, really.
[23:28] <[Saint]> It can do _one_, very well.
[23:28] <[Saint]> But not both.
[23:28] <ZER0C001> right
[23:28] <BorgCuba> flexus, havent checked that, but why should I have to connect a usb hub?
[23:28] <ZER0C001> im thinking about buying another pi actually
[23:28] <flexus> BorgCuba: i meant disconnecting usb devices
[23:28] <[Saint]> BorgCuba: if you have a B2, there's absolutely no need to.
[23:29] <ZER0C001> they got model Bs on ebay for 35 bucks with power adapter and case
[23:29] <[Saint]> If you have a B/B+, and power hungry USB devices, you'll need to.
[23:29] <BorgCuba> flexus, [Saint] as I mentioned before there are no devices connected
[23:29] <BorgCuba> nothing, all ports empty
[23:29] <[Saint]> Then...I absolutely cannot comprehend why a hud was suggested to you, then. :)
[23:29] <Sonny_Jim> BorgCuba: It's your PSU
[23:29] <[Saint]> *hub
[23:30] <BorgCuba> except for the micro-usb (for power) and 3pins for serial
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[23:30] <[Saint]> Yeah - no idea then. Perhaps someone misparsed your intentions.
[23:30] <flexus> BorgCuba: ok no ft232 ftdi too
[23:30] <BorgCuba> Sonny_Jim, I tried two power supplies both approx 2A
[23:30] <[Saint]> A hub is entirely surplus to your requirement.
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[23:30] <BorgCuba> flexus, whithout anything connected I cant even see if it reboots
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[23:31] <flexus> hehe
[23:31] <BorgCuba> like for that cat ;-)
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[23:32] <[Saint]> The idea here is to use a multimeter to check the testpoints while powered.
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[23:32] <[Saint]> Sadly, a power supply just saying "5V @ 2A" is meaningless.
[23:34] <NGC3982> True.
[23:34] <BorgCuba> multimeter or scope?
[23:34] <[Saint]> multimeter.
[23:35] <BorgCuba> I guess my multimeter is a bit slow
[23:35] <NGC3982> A reliable Fluke should do more than enough to ensure RPI "compability".
[23:35] <[Saint]> just want to see how much the voltage is dropping across the testpoints.
[23:35] <[Saint]> If at all.
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[23:35] <[Saint]> NGC3982: ...there are reliable Flukes now? ;p
[23:36] <NGC3982> Hey, don't push it.
[23:36] <NGC3982> ;)
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[23:38] <BorgCuba> I have a rock solid dt9052 here ;-)
[23:38] <shiftplusone> bah... almost 11PM... I should probably get in the habit of leaving work a little earlier... =/
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[23:39] <ShorTie> but your having such fun
[23:39] <shiftplusone> tearing my hair out
[23:39] <BorgCuba> [Saint], which TPs ?
[23:39] <[Saint]> TP1 and TP2
[23:40] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: ...Jeebus
[23:40] <[Saint]> Just put a pillow and a doona under your desk.
[23:40] <[Saint]> Live there.
[23:40] <BorgCuba> they are actually labeled PPn
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[23:41] <shiftplusone> I suspect that's what the broadcom folks do. I've never seen them leave. I came in on Sunday and Fert was (still?) there... >.>
[23:41] * [Saint] resisted the temptation to say duvet so his Australian brethren knew what he was talking about
[23:41] <shiftplusone> Fert? *Gert
[23:41] <shiftplusone> [Saint], we don't say duvet in Australia, what are you talking about!?
[23:41] <shiftplusone> I had to get used to 'duvet' when coming to UK.
[23:41] <BorgCuba> looks like PP1 and PP2 have a direct connection
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[23:42] <[Saint]> wait...is this a B2?
[23:42] <BorgCuba> a b+
[23:42] <[Saint]> Oh. Well, the voltage is fine then.
[23:42] <[Saint]> It wouldn;t boot otherwise.
[23:43] <[Saint]> That's a B+ specific feature. It'll sit there and bitch if the voltage isn't right.
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[23:43] <[Saint]> (as opposed to, y'know...booting)
[23:43] <[Saint]> Aplogies for not seeing that in the scrollback.
[23:44] <BorgCuba> okay, now it boots half
[23:44] <[Saint]> Still catching up and trying to top up my morning caffeine intake.
[23:44] <BorgCuba> and from the kernel log it always stops at this line: "[ 4.455381] hub 1-1:1.0: 5 ports detected"
[23:46] <BorgCuba> hmm, maybe I just return it tomorrow. Ive got some other toys that just boot fine from sd-card
[23:46] <BorgCuba> anyway, thanks for your help everybody!
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[23:53] <gadgetoid> shiftplusone: the correct time to stop working is never
[23:53] <hosler> the correct time to stop working is 5PM
[23:54] <gadgetoid> Is that... even... possible?
[23:54] <hosler> yes
[23:54] <hosler> i do it every day
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[23:55] <gadgetoid> What do you do that you can stop at 5pm without going insane?
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[23:55] <shiftplusone> Well, I stop working at 5:30PM (usually) then do something else until I notice the time.
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[23:56] <shiftplusone> Got me a DE0-Nano dev board to play around with =)
[23:56] <gadgetoid> What magic is that?
[23:56] <shiftplusone> fpga dev board (Cyclone 4)
[23:57] <hosler> gadgetoid: it's called a job
[23:57] <gadgetoid> Ooo, I'm waiting for my Papilio Duo ( Xiliinx Spartan 6E or something of that nature )
[23:57] <hosler> xilinx. never again.
[23:57] <gadgetoid> Although VHDL/Verilog both severely break my brain!
[23:58] <shiftplusone> Ah, are you already familiar with verilog or some-such?
[23:58] <shiftplusone> ah okay
[23:58] <gadgetoid> And the Xilinx IDE is basically made of pure distilled pain
[23:58] <flexus> shiftplusone: is the fpga like standardized in term of language?
[23:58] <hosler> verilog
[23:58] <hosler> or vhdl
[23:58] <flexus> so you can decide yourself ?
[23:58] <Matt_O> heh... I've used the xilinx ide myself
[23:58] <hosler> those are the two options i know of
[23:58] <Matt_O> it is.... a little difficult
[23:59] <shiftplusone> I got the board to help start learning. Using nand2tetris to build up a little processor... or seeing how far I get anyway.
[23:59] <Matt_O> never tried anything else so I wouldn't even know if the xilinx one is bad or good relative to the others
[23:59] <flexus> i know, like pure C or assembler
[23:59] <gadgetoid> I think there are higher level "HDL"s, or attempts to make them, but they just compile down into Verilog/VHDL
[23:59] <shiftplusone> if you know c, verilog isn't too far off. If you understand how things work on the logic level, even better.

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