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IRC Log for 2014-10-10

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[0:04] <cheetahXx> HOLA
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[0:21] <l_r> what are the real competitors of rpi?
[0:22] <pksato> On price? processing power? size?
[0:22] <l_r> on gpu and software lib
[0:23] <l_r> i mean, the gpu takes care about everything
[0:23] <l_r> it has h264 dec/enc and good libs
[0:23] <l_r> i cannot find anything similar
[0:23] <pksato> for media playback?
[0:23] <l_r> yes
[0:23] <pksato> android sticks.
[0:23] <l_r> also the camera module,
[0:23] <l_r> it is handled by the gpu
[0:23] <l_r> and you can access it via mmal
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[0:24] <l_r> is there anything similar?
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[0:45] <ijustam> i am about to test my relay hook up for the first time
[0:45] <ijustam> if im not back in 5 minutes, avenge my death
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[0:47] <ijustam> didnt work :<
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[0:59] <ijustam> YEAHHH it works
[1:01] <Sonny_Jim> Quite a productive little day
[1:02] <Sonny_Jim> Learned a bit about pthreads, makefiles, SDL and I'm going to have another crack at getopt
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[1:42] <PovAddict> I just dd'd raspbian image into my SD card
[1:42] <PovAddict> how do I expand the filesystem?
[1:43] <PovAddict> I tried copying a video file and soon ran out of space
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[1:44] <WACOMalt> Hi all, I am wondering what sort of Battery/solar panel setup would be needed to keep a Pi (B+) running all day
[1:44] <WACOMalt> I'm wanting to set one up as a cjdns entry point
[1:45] <WACOMalt> I was looking at a 13watt panel with a 5v battery
[1:45] <flexus> PovAddict: try gparted
[1:45] <WACOMalt> Also, are there ways to limit the power usage of the system?
[1:46] <PovAddict> flexus: oh of course, I have done it before m(
[1:47] <flexus> PovAddict: failed ?
[1:47] <PovAddict> flexus: I mean I don't know why I didn't think of gparted if I have used it before :)
[1:47] <PovAddict> thanks
[1:47] <Sonny_Jim> There are much easier ways that gparted
[1:48] <Sonny_Jim> PovAddict: try sudo raspi-config
[1:48] <PovAddict> I wanted to do it without booting the raspi
[1:48] <PovAddict> from my computer
[1:49] <Sonny_Jim> Oh
[1:49] <flexus> 2 options better than 1
[1:49] <Sonny_Jim> tbh I would just do it on the Pi
[1:50] <PovAddict> gparted did the trick, pretty fast
[1:51] <Sonny_Jim> WACOMalt: From what I remember, there is a way to put the Pi into a low power mode. The only problem is that there is no way to wake it up again afterward
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[1:51] <Sonny_Jim> http://spellfoundry.com/sleepy-pi/sleepy-pi-faq/#Does_The_Raspberry_Pi_Have_A_Sleep_Mode
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[1:51] <Sonny_Jim> I'm not too sure if this has changed on the B+
[1:52] <WACOMalt> Sonny_Jim, ah thanks. But I dont think Sleep mode would be productive for my use
[1:52] <WACOMalt> good to know though
[1:53] <Sonny_Jim> If you want to work out how long you can power the Pi for off a battery, you need to know two things
[1:53] <Sonny_Jim> 1. How many mA the Pi will be drawing
[1:53] <Sonny_Jim> 2. How many mAH (milli Amp Hours) the battery can provide
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[1:53] <Sonny_Jim> Be warned that Chinese sellers will make *very* dubious mAH claims about their batteries
[1:53] <WACOMalt> So really I should find out how many mAH I would need, and buy a battery accomodating that for a full night
[1:53] <PovAddict> 3. how fast the solar panel can recharge it? :)
[1:54] <WACOMalt> that too :) it's a 13w panel
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[1:54] <Sonny_Jim> Heh, not my reponse said nothing about charging the battery, just how long it would last
[1:54] <WACOMalt> hoping that's enough to charge for a full night's use
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[1:55] <WACOMalt> I'll buy whatever panel and battery system I need, just trying to figure out what will be needed. The Pi uses 5v 700mA right?
[1:55] <flexus> WACOMalt: make a lsusb -v | grep -Ei '(idVendor|MaxPower)'
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[1:56] <WACOMalt> flexus, I'm still waiting on my Pi to arrive
[1:56] <flexus> right
[1:56] <Sonny_Jim> Depending on what's plugged into the USB ports
[1:57] <PovAddict> isn't 700mA the max though?
[1:57] <WACOMalt> I think
[1:57] <WACOMalt> the only thing that will be plugged is a wifi adapter
[1:57] <WACOMalt> which I need to choose based on power there too
[1:57] <Sonny_Jim> Check the specs for the B+, I have a feeling that it uses less power but can draw more than the B for USB devices
[1:58] <WACOMalt> I should be able to desolder the ethernet port, which I've read draws a decent amount of power even if not used
[1:58] <Sonny_Jim> I don't think desoldering will do anything as the SoC will still be powering it
[1:58] <WACOMalt> but a non completed circuit... eh maybe I dont know
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[1:58] <steve_rox> be interesting if rpi could have a switch to toggle lan chip off on
[1:58] <WACOMalt> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11089
[1:59] <Sonny_Jim> Not having a ethernet cable plugged in = non completed circuit
[1:59] <WACOMalt> This seems like it would not be capable of overnight usage, but he claims it can
[1:59] <steve_rox> ive seen someone de solder the entire lan chip and still have it work
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[2:00] <WACOMalt> wow
[2:00] <PovAddict> if you need low power, and you only want to plug in a Wi-Fi adapter, why not get a model A? :)
[2:00] <steve_rox> model a cant sence low power
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[2:02] <WACOMalt> ah, let me look at that. I hadnt considered Model A. New and figured they all had ethernet
[2:03] <PovAddict> I hate how it takes several minutes from first boot till I get something on the display, stupid VGA adapter :(
[2:03] <Sonny_Jim> get a model A and replace the voltage regulator
[2:03] <steve_rox> odd my adapter is instant
[2:03] <PovAddict> it's sometimes instant
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[2:03] <PovAddict> I wonder if the HDMI port isn't giving the adapter enough power or something
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[2:04] <WACOMalt> Sonny_Jim, Thanks for the recommendations. So to be clear, the Model A uses less power and already has wifi built in? or would still need a separate adapter, and could only run that adapter with a new voltage regulator?
[2:04] <WACOMalt> in which case, would it still use less power?
[2:05] <PovAddict> none has wi-fi built in
[2:05] <WACOMalt> ok
[2:05] <PovAddict> what I meant is that if you only want to plug in a Wi-Fi adapter and nothing else, the Model A's single USB port may be enough for you
[2:05] <Sonny_Jim> No, but the voltage regulators on both the A and B models are known to be 'not the best'
[2:05] <Sonny_Jim> This was fixed on the B+
[2:06] <steve_rox> i have a cmd that turns off the video out signal , not sure if that changes any power consumption
[2:06] <PovAddict> I'm still waiting for the damn display
[2:06] <steve_rox> only thing is when you turn signal back on the screen is blank
[2:07] <steve_rox> i dont know how to fix
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[2:10] <WACOMalt> steve_rox, if you could share that I'd be grateful. Once this is running I shouldnt ever need a display again
[2:10] <WACOMalt> or at least I wouldnt mine restarting it to get one
[2:10] <steve_rox> one sec ill dig it up
[2:11] <WACOMalt> looking at this panel: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-SOLAR-PANEL-ALEKO-80W-MONOCRYSTALLINE-12-VOLT-80-WATT-/281413733852?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418590cddc
[2:11] <WACOMalt> overkill possibly
[2:11] <WACOMalt> http://www.reuk.co.uk/Solar-Powered-Raspberry-Pi.htm
[2:12] <steve_rox> found it
[2:12] <WACOMalt> but that site recommends overkill :)
[2:12] <steve_rox> /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -o -power off display signal
[2:12] <steve_rox> /opt/vc/bin/tvservice --sdtvon="PAL 14:9" - power on display
[2:12] <WACOMalt> thank you
[2:12] <steve_rox> thats the on off
[2:12] <steve_rox> i dont know if its right or wrong to turn it back on in that way
[2:12] <steve_rox> but its all i know
[2:12] <WACOMalt> all helpful, thanks
[2:13] <steve_rox> lemme know if you find a better way
[2:13] <WACOMalt> now Im trying to decide if I need the added memory of the newer models...
[2:13] <WACOMalt> I'll start with an A and see if I hit issues
[2:13] <WACOMalt> these things are cheap enough
[2:13] <steve_rox> long as the limitations dont drive you nuts
[2:14] <WACOMalt> aside from memory, what limitations should I be looking out for?
[2:14] <steve_rox> lan usb port
[2:14] <steve_rox> err
[2:14] <steve_rox> stuff
[2:15] <steve_rox> i like havin wired net i suppose
[2:15] <steve_rox> faster
[2:15] <WACOMalt> indeed
[2:15] <WACOMalt> the specific purpose of this experiment though is to create 2 test nodes of a "meshnet"
[2:15] <WACOMalt> and see if I can get a kit together that can be easily deployed and set up
[2:16] <PovAddict> WACOMalt: model A has less RAM, no wired ethernet, only one USB port
[2:16] <PovAddict> I *think* that's all
[2:16] <steve_rox> power consumption
[2:16] <WACOMalt> Ok PovAddict, only the RAM may be an issue. Will require testing
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[2:17] <irc_smirk> hello
[2:18] <irc_smirk> hello
[2:18] <irc_smirk> is there a way a pi can transmit fm signals that i can pick up on a local reciever?
[2:18] <irc_smirk> something like doing this would be amazing
[2:18] <Sonny_Jim> There is
[2:19] <irc_smirk> some.mp3 > 120.12 fm
[2:19] <Sonny_Jim> Try googling "Pi fm transmitter"
[2:19] <steve_rox> yeah and check legal stuff too on it
[2:19] <irc_smirk> oh neat!
[2:20] <steve_rox> transmitting on fm can cause legal money loss
[2:21] <irc_smirk> why would it be illegal?
[2:21] <irc_smirk> monopoly/?
[2:21] <PovAddict> still no display? wtf?
[2:21] <steve_rox> it voilates law
[2:22] <steve_rox> in some countrys
[2:22] <irc_smirk> yeah sounds like the law of a monopoly
[2:22] <WACOMalt> yeah air waves are actually pretty regulated
[2:22] <steve_rox> be that as it may , transmitt from one location for a long time you may have the filth after you
[2:22] <WACOMalt> unless you're in free band, or very short range
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[2:23] <irc_smirk> its the same thing those ipod transmitters did
[2:23] <irc_smirk> to get ipod music out to your car radio
[2:23] <steve_rox> i only gave mine a short wire and it went a amazing distance
[2:23] <irc_smirk> if you can keep the single within the home whats the big deal
[2:23] <irc_smirk> lol
[2:24] <irc_smirk> so you could be driving down the freeway and highjacking what people listen too?
[2:24] <steve_rox> how far is the freeway away from the transmitter?
[2:24] <irc_smirk> the next cars next to you
[2:24] <irc_smirk> you take it in the car with you ;)
[2:25] <steve_rox> i read with a good antenna you can get upto 50 meters maybe more
[2:25] <irc_smirk> maybe it wire it to your car antenna
[2:26] <steve_rox> heh
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[2:26] <WACOMalt> I had a little FM transmitter for my phone, It barely reached to another car, but you could annoy people
[2:27] <steve_rox> heh
[2:27] <steve_rox> im sure this thing could be used as a FM jammer or something bad
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[2:28] <irc_smirk> im just thinking it could be used to pipe any internet content to your radio alarm
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[2:30] <PovAddict> oh ugh
[2:30] <PovAddict> on first boot, raspbian loads that config thing?
[2:30] <steve_rox> raspi-config?
[2:30] <PovAddict> yes
[2:31] <PovAddict> I was trying to login blindly with pi / raspberry while the screen wasn't working, I was probably selecting options on raspi-config instead :/
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[2:32] * PovAddict uses ssh instead
[2:32] <WACOMalt> http://www.amazon.com/registry/wishlist/2FNB3N78HI0WX/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_ws_QJYnub0XJ7VTX Here's my list so far
[2:32] <PovAddict> can I change the video mode or something from the console?
[2:32] <steve_rox> ssh ent enabled by default
[2:32] <steve_rox> err
[2:32] <steve_rox> i think its dooable on hdmi
[2:32] <steve_rox> but i couldent figure a way on composite
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[2:32] <PovAddict> I'm using an HDMI-to-VGA adapter
[2:33] <PovAddict> I want to turn off HDMI and back on or something to see if I can kick the adapter into working
[2:34] <steve_rox> http://elinux.org/RPi_Configuration
[2:34] <steve_rox> theres soome stuff
[2:34] <steve_rox> /opt/vc/bin/tvservice
[2:34] <steve_rox> review that stuff
[2:35] <PovAddict> oh config.txt is available from Linux, awesome
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[2:38] <ijustam> well this is what i did this evening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mHXzukItVk
[2:38] <irc_smirk> ijustam - nice!
[2:38] <irc_smirk> ijustam - hook it up to morse code :)
[2:39] <ijustam> haha i like that idea
[2:39] <ijustam> i changed the sleep to 0.05 sec and now it basically makes the room blue
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[2:40] <irc_smirk> ijustam - or make it into this http://www.faketv.com/
[2:40] <steve_rox> heh jolly project
[2:45] <WACOMalt> Alrighty, I've go tmy final shopping list. Anyone care to look over it for me? http://www.amazon.com/registry/wishlist/2FNB3N78HI0WX/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_ws_7UYnub07B6P2S
[2:46] <irc_smirk> whatever your are building. there are two
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[2:51] <WACOMalt> yup
[2:51] <WACOMalt> Building a solar powered meshnet node
[2:51] <WACOMalt> I need at least two to actually test them in action
[2:53] <irc_smirk> thats awesome
[2:54] <steve_rox> whats meshnet
[2:55] <steve_rox> repeaters?
[2:55] <WACOMalt> basically a DNS server system that is distributed and cant go down if a mainline is cut
[2:56] <WACOMalt> internet when there is no internet service
[2:57] <steve_rox> so how do you intend to power it by solar?
[2:57] <irc_smirk> what is user sshd?
[2:57] <steve_rox> large lead acid battery inbetween?
[2:57] <irc_smirk> im runing top and i see a bunch of activity from sshd
[2:58] <Travis> Does anyone here know of a good media player for Pidora?
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[2:58] <irc_smirk> haha im so retarded
[2:58] <WACOMalt> steve_rox, exactly. deep cycle
[2:58] <WACOMalt> look at my list. it has all the necessary parts
[2:59] <WACOMalt> with a healthy dose of overkill
[2:59] <irc_smirk> what is the range?
[2:59] <steve_rox> i powered my rpi on super caps for 45 mins
[2:59] <WACOMalt> That I'm not sure. Would depend on the wireless adapter.
[2:59] <steve_rox> but the solar pannel does not have enough power to replenish it fast enough
[2:59] <WACOMalt> yeah it does. it would take 40w panel to do this, I have 80
[3:00] <steve_rox> and being in the uk we have no sun
[3:00] <WACOMalt> this is enough to run up to 7 days of no sun
[3:00] <WACOMalt> I'm not saying it's perfect for everyone, but it should work in my area perfectly fine
[3:00] <irc_smirk> there should be a map to show who is running this stuff
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[3:00] <WACOMalt> Many cities have them
[3:01] <irc_smirk> the real meshnet is in everyones pockets
[3:01] <WACOMalt> Indeed it is
[3:01] <irc_smirk> someone needs to turn phones into mesh nodes
[3:01] <steve_rox> in countrys where there is no internets the rpi repeater mesh would be valuable
[3:01] <WACOMalt> but, cant be running 100% of the time
[3:01] <WACOMalt> battery drain
[3:01] <WACOMalt> https://www.seattlemesh.net/coverage
[3:01] <irc_smirk> so if im in that area what doe sit look like on the user end. another wifi hotspot to log into?
[3:02] <WACOMalt> Besides, this system is made for areas that have no power. This would be a LOT cheaper for someone with an AC plug
[3:02] <WACOMalt> it depends
[3:02] <irc_smirk> and how do i get online? someone on a node has to redistrube the content
[3:02] <WACOMalt> you brodcast on the network, and you can then browse the internet
[3:02] <WACOMalt> basically
[3:02] <WACOMalt> setup is needed.
[3:02] <WACOMalt> http://hyperboria.net/
[3:03] <WACOMalt> hmm, that site explains nothing lol, sorry
[3:03] <WACOMalt> http://hyperboria.net/
[3:03] <WACOMalt> it's by no means user friendly yet. you gotta start somewhere
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[3:04] <irc_smirk> is it easy to run this on the pi?
[3:04] <WACOMalt> yes
[3:04] <WACOMalt> https://wiki.projectmeshnet.org/Hyperboria
[3:04] <irc_smirk> does it take over the pi in terms of cpu?
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[3:04] <WACOMalt> it probably does
[3:04] <WACOMalt> well, not to connect
[3:04] <WACOMalt> but to run as a node, yes
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[3:05] <WACOMalt> (this is all guesswork, I dont have a Pi yet)
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[3:06] <WACOMalt> My main concern is if the lower power usage of model A is worth the loss of memory, which I may or may not need
[3:06] <irc_smirk> i will check this out more thanks
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[3:09] <WACOMalt> OK I'm out. thanks a ton for the help guys!
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[3:17] <PovAddict> irc_smirk: in Buenos Aires there's a meshnet thing some people are building
[3:17] <PovAddict> it doesn't carry internet though, since that would need an ISP license
[3:17] <PovAddict> it's for communication between nodes, and some people are offering interesting services inside the network
[3:18] <PovAddict> and there is a map :)
[3:18] <irc_smirk> map of what the city?
[3:19] <PovAddict> map of the network nodes
[3:20] <PovAddict> http://mapa.buenosaireslibre.org/
[3:20] <PovAddict> Buenos Aires Libre Location System
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[3:20] <irc_smirk> where is the tech hum in buenos aires
[3:20] <irc_smirk> *hub
[3:21] <PovAddict> did you notice what that abbreviates to
[3:21] <PovAddict> :D
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[3:21] <irc_smirk> thats a lot of coverage
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[3:29] <PovAddict> does raspbian ship any video player?
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[3:47] <GIANT_CRAB> PovAddict: no, you have to download VLC yourself
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[3:49] <PovAddict> looks like it ships omxplayer
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[4:14] <PovAddict> boo
[4:14] <PovAddict> I can't change the video mode out of VGA :(
[4:14] <PovAddict> it's stuck on 640x480
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[4:17] <Hello71> since when does raspberry pi have vga
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[4:18] <Hello71> you mean VGA *size*?
[4:19] <PovAddict> yes
[4:19] <PovAddict> incidentally I'm using an HDMI-to-VGA adapter, but I was referring to VGA / 640x480 size
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[4:29] <PovAddict> does the SoC have a temperature sensor?
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[4:34] <PovAddict> yep \o/
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[4:42] <PovAddict> seems to run at 52°C
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[6:48] <existensil> not sure where else to ask, but does anyone know of a USB battery pack that provides power even when its charging?
[6:49] <existensil> Got one for long trips with my phone, and it powers a raspberry pi just fine, but the power shuts off when I plug the battery pack in to charge
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[6:49] <existensil> so as a continuous power supply its not really viable
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[6:57] <Mr_Sheesh> existensil - Put diodes (schottky would be best) from the battery pack and the power input, to the rpi, so it diode steers to the charger when that happens.
[6:57] <Mr_Sheesh> or fet steer it, there's a trick for that
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[6:58] <RahulAN> Hii all
[6:59] <RahulAN> http://dump.no/files/0d13f1065fb4/circuit.png is this the correct circuit?
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[7:00] <existensil> Mr_Sheesh: I'll have to look into that. Just starting out getting familiar with wiring.
[7:03] <Mr_Sheesh> RahulAN - Should work unless you need a smaller resistor value on the base resistor; make sure that the transistor's hfe (or beta) times (Vin-0.7V) is >= 20 mA (i.e. 0.02 A) and all's well
[7:04] <RahulAN> ohkk
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[7:08] <RahulAN> Mr_Sheesh, I will try it..
[7:08] <Mr_Sheesh> existensil - looking fir the trick, its a nice sneaky one
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[7:31] <RahulAN> Mr_Sheesh, but IR can't be connected to +3v directly?
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[7:32] <Mr_Sheesh> idk what microcontroller you're using, does it have 20 mA capability on the gpio pins?
[7:33] <RahulAN> I want to use it with Rpi
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[7:34] <Mr_Sheesh> aah; what are the gpio pins on an rpi's current sourcing or sinking limits?
[7:34] <RahulAN> This i don't know :|
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[7:36] <Mr_Sheesh> http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/gpio/README.md and https://www.scribd.com/doc/101830961/GPIO-Pads-Control2 looks like 16 mA tops
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[7:40] <RahulAN> Mr_Sheesh, it seems ok..
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[7:41] <Mr_Sheesh> 16 mA tops then, if that will do your LED
[7:41] <steve_rox> think i ran relays off the gpio but using the 5v pin
[7:42] <steve_rox> cant rember
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[7:46] <abnormal> I use a piface daughter board or an arduino uno or a parallax quickstart
[7:46] <abnormal> the gertboard is best way to protect the pi
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[7:53] <dan23> jeez the raspberry pi is slow eh
[7:57] <Caleo> quite
[8:00] <Caleo> odroid-u3 is a better bet if you're looking for a media center setup.. http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php
[8:01] <Caleo> +$25 or so but it's like 5x+ more powerful
[8:01] <existensil> RahulAN: the standard IR LED (940nm) I'm using is wired directly to a GPIO pin and ground and works great.
[8:04] <Caleo> odroid u3's not really quite as I/O oriented as the raspi though
[8:04] <Caleo> but, if I were building a media center, it's what I'd get
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[8:10] <RahulAN> existensil, i think i put transistor oppositely
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[8:53] <RahulAN> existensil, it worked at last.. :)
[8:54] <RahulAN> is it possible of interfacing ADC0808 with Pi?
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[9:00] <ShorTie> don't know if a mcp3008 will work for you but it is in wiringpi
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[9:03] <ShorTie> here is a thread on the adc0808 though http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=49499
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[9:05] <RahulAN> I read that one..
[9:05] <RahulAN> but no information
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[9:06] <RahulAN> ShorTie, mcp3008 have spi and i2c interface
[9:07] <ShorTie> no, it's a spi device not i2c
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[9:08] <RahulAN> but over ADC0808 nothing like i2c is there, and this thread says about ADC to I2c converters
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[9:11] <ShorTie> they way i read that thread, it would noy be much fun to try to use it and it suggest the mcp3008 also
[9:12] <ShorTie> not*
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[10:15] <gordonDrogon> the mcp3008 works well.
[10:17] <ShorTie> that it does
[10:20] * Sonny_Jim is nose deep in databuses
[10:20] <Sonny_Jim> Actually not as scary as I thought it would be
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[10:21] <Sonny_Jim> The "Ahh I see" moment this morning was finding out that a databus has address lines _and_ datalines
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[10:34] <gordonDrogon> currently deep in bread making.
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[10:35] <Sonny_Jim> It's gradually becoming less of a murky fog in my brain
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[10:36] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/honeySpelt.jpg doesn't look too bad. just made 4 of them.
[10:36] <Sonny_Jim> nom nom nom
[10:36] <gordonDrogon> as well as 4 others still in the oven...
[10:37] <gordonDrogon> got a bigger than usual order this morning.
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[10:40] <Sonny_Jim> Baking to order, eh?
[10:40] <Sonny_Jim> I used to bring homemade cakes in with me to work on a Friday, every time people would be like:
[10:41] <Sonny_Jim> "Oh, is it someones birthday"
[10:41] <Sonny_Jim> No, I just like eating cakes on a Friday
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[10:50] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[11:44] <wizard-d> can one install the gnome on rspberry pi
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[11:46] <Sonny_Jim> I believe so, it's not recommended though
[11:46] <Sonny_Jim> Not enough RAM/CPU power for it to be useful
[11:46] <wizard-d> i tried it but it took me back to step one
[11:47] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianMate
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[11:47] <Sonny_Jim> That's Rasbian with Gnome 2
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[11:48] <wizard-d> dont know but it gave me so like 4 list of os i can install on it
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[12:17] <irc_smirk> hello
[12:17] <irc_smirk> is it difficult/expensive to setup https on raspberry pi?
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[12:18] <Sonny_Jim> You mean a web server?
[12:18] <irc_smirk> yeah i have a node script serving an api and when i ran it from another site it complained that i had to do it over https
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[12:21] <Sonny_Jim> It's not expensive
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> you can create a self-certify certificate for free - I've only done it in apache though.
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[12:22] <gordonDrogon> I have a wildcard *.drogon.net certificate I use on my hosted stuff.
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[12:31] <irc_smirk> http://sirarsalih.com/2014/05/31/setting-up-a-node-server-and-securing-it-with-ssl-on-raspberrypi/
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[12:57] <NGC3982> I'm thinking about writing a guide to installing a Tellstick service with RPI
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[12:57] <NGC3982> I have my own wordpress. Although, do you guys recommend me to make it somewhere else?
[12:57] <NGC3982> Is the RPI forums suitable?
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[13:04] <shiftplusone> sure
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[13:14] <gordonDrogon> I'd put it on your own wordpress, then post a summary to the forums with a link to your own site.
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[13:23] <NGC3982> Aight.
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[13:34] <shiftplusone> Then slap ads on there and make millions
[13:34] <NGC3982> prafit.
[13:34] <basti> it seems that / is 100% full.
[13:34] <NGC3982> Tell me about it.
[13:34] <basti> i dont know, where to look and what might cause this. any help
[13:35] <basti> hit enter too early... NGC3982
[13:35] <NGC3982> What does df -h tell you?
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[13:35] <basti> rootfs 7.3G 7.3G 0 100% /
[13:35] <NGC3982> Oh.
[13:35] <NGC3982> What distribution are you using?
[13:35] <basti> wheezy
[13:36] <NGC3982> Let's see then.
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[13:38] <basti> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-large-files-linux/ <- i just running this and see what pops up
[13:38] <NGC3982> Exactly
[13:38] <NGC3982> sudo find / -type f -size +500000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $8 ": " $5 }'
[13:38] <NGC3982> I was just typing that up from the very exact web site.
[13:40] <basti> http://nopaste.info/eaa54437da.html <- no paths or anything...
[13:41] <NGC3982> I noticed.
[13:42] <NGC3982> basti: sudo du -a / | sort -n -r | head -n 10
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[13:42] <NGC3982> It should give you the ten biggest files in /. Please note that it searches the entire /.
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[13:44] <NGC3982> Although, that does not have to help you. A directory in / contaigning one billion 1MB files would not show any results.
[13:44] <NGC3982> What are you using the system for, primarily?
[13:44] <basti> seems to be a bug in uvcdynctrl-udev
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[13:51] <NGC3982> basti: I guess google seems to solve that bug easier than me.
[13:51] <NGC3982> :>
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[14:04] <basti> hmm... i installed samba-common, but i dont seem to have "net". is it in another package?
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[14:28] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[14:28] <Sonny_Jim> Is there a way to pass a variable from a python program to a running C program
[14:30] <SpeedEvil> Sonny_Jim: post it on twitter?
[14:30] <Sonny_Jim> heh
[14:30] <Sonny_Jim> Sockets, was the answer
[14:30] <Sonny_Jim> or is, rather
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[14:44] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, you can use a named pipe, unix domain socket, tcp sockets or posix shared memory. the latter is the fastest, but can be tricky to maintain
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[14:48] <Sonny_Jim> I went for udp socket in the end
[14:48] <Sonny_Jim> Looked nice and simple
[14:48] <Sonny_Jim> Also, looking at the GPIO side of things, I think that I'm going to have to use a mcu on the databus
[14:49] <Sonny_Jim> Considering I couldn't get the Pi to handle 12us timings, even just reading 2MHz is going to be tricky :\
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[14:50] <shiftplusone> eh? what do you need to do with 12us timings? I'm not having much trouble there, but I'm doing kernel-space stuff.
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[14:52] <Sonny_Jim> This was when I was trying to bit bang the SNES controller protocol
[14:53] <Sonny_Jim> In the end I went with a couple of chips instead
[14:53] <Sonny_Jim> This project I'm trying to read a 6809 databus @2MHz
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[14:53] <Sonny_Jim> For one, I'm not sure if I'll have enough GPIO and for another I'm not sure if I'll be able to read it fast enough, hence the need for a mcu
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[14:58] <gordonDrogon> a 20Mhz AVR will do it - the down-side is the lack of RAM, but use a 640 chip - the down-side that it's SMT.
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[15:00] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[15:00] <Sonny_Jim> I don't really need that much RAM at all
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[15:00] <Sonny_Jim> It's only 2 byte messages that I need to pass back and forth
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[15:01] * shiftplusone thinks it's perfectly reasonable with a pi
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[15:01] <shiftplusone> maybe not with simple bitbanging, but still.
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[15:03] <Darkwater> I just had an idea that would make it really easy to get the ip address of a headless rpi
[15:04] <Darkwater> it needs to be built into raspbian though
[15:04] <Darkwater> basically there should be a webpage on raspberrypi.org you visit on another pc
[15:05] <Darkwater> then while you're on that page, you turn on your rpi
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[15:05] <Darkwater> the rpi sends a packet to the website containing the local IP address, and it shows up on the other pc because the external IP is the same
[15:05] <Darkwater> something like this would make many lives a lot easier
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[15:06] * shiftplusone is not convinced
[15:06] <Sonny_Jim> Nor me
[15:06] <Sonny_Jim> I just sniff the traffic or check the DHCP logs
[15:06] <Darkwater> not every rpi user has the knowledge or sometimes even rights to do that though
[15:06] <Darkwater> for example, this issue just came up again here at my school
[15:07] <Darkwater> nmap is impractical on large networks
[15:07] <Darkwater> especially when there's multiple subnets
[15:07] <Sonny_Jim> Not nmap
[15:07] <shiftplusone> A router with a dns server is though
[15:07] <Sonny_Jim> That's a scanner, not a sniffer
[15:07] <Darkwater> dhcp logs are inaccessible at school
[15:07] <shiftplusone> or avahi
[15:07] <Darkwater> for students
[15:07] <Sonny_Jim> You should be able to easily run a sniffer such as wireshark
[15:08] <Sonny_Jim> If need be, plug both the Pi and your laptop into a switch, then connect that switch to the network
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[15:08] <Darkwater> again, not everyone has the knowledge to do that
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[15:09] <Sonny_Jim> Why not just plug a monitor in?
[15:09] <Darkwater> what if you don't have access to one
[15:09] <shiftplusone> Darkwater, from a school network, how do you prevent all of the pi's IPs showing up on that page?
[15:09] <shiftplusone> Since the external IP will be the same
[15:09] <Darkwater> it's not uncommon to have no access to hdmi or component monitors
[15:09] <Darkwater> screens
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[15:09] <Darkwater> shiftplusone: you only see rpis that are turned on while the page is open
[15:10] <Sonny_Jim> A much better option would be to just text-to-speech the IP address
[15:10] <Darkwater> rpis that boot while you have the page open
[15:10] <Sonny_Jim> Find me a school with a classroom of students who *don't* have a pair of headphones handy
[15:10] <shiftplusone> Sure, so you then you can only boot one pi at the time?
[15:10] <Darkwater> mine if I wasn't there
[15:11] <Sonny_Jim> You seem intent that this is the best option
[15:11] <Darkwater> the one flaw I see is if everyone turns on their pi at exactly the same time
[15:11] <Darkwater> I've never said it's the best option
[15:11] <Darkwater> I've said it would make lives easier for many people
[15:11] <Sonny_Jim> Well, we've given you about 3-4 other options and you've said "Newp" to each one
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[15:12] <shiftplusone> I can pass it on to the powers that be, but it will be a 'nuh, we're not doing that' sort of response.
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[15:12] <Darkwater> I'm not saying the other methods are useless either
[15:12] <Sonny_Jim> I agree that it is an issue, but it's not going to have a trivial solution
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[15:13] <shiftplusone> My vote goes to the TTS option and I know Ben has done it before.
[15:13] <Darkwater> why not both
[15:14] <Sonny_Jim> Because one way doesn't generate more network traffic nor require an outside service to be running
[15:14] <shiftplusone> Who is going to do it, maintain it and make sure it's secure? Is it worth it?
[15:14] <Sonny_Jim> Also, crossplatform blah
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[15:14] <Darkwater> cross-platform?
[15:14] <Sonny_Jim> Yes, what OS is the server going to run?
[15:15] <shiftplusone> And how would people feel about their pi 'phoning home' every time it's turned on.
[15:15] <Sonny_Jim> But my vote goes for being able to set something in config.txt that turns on TTS
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[15:15] <shiftplusone> config.txt is for firmware stuff
[15:15] <Darkwater> you mean the server with the webpage? ideally it should be on the raspberrypi.org site
[15:15] <Sonny_Jim> Well, something on the FAT partition
[15:15] <Sonny_Jim> Ha
[15:15] <Sonny_Jim> You don't think that would have security implications?
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[15:16] <Sonny_Jim> And internet access for that matter
[15:16] <gordonDrogon> Darkwater, run this on another Pi: http://unicorn.drogon.net/findPi
[15:16] <gordonDrogon> then ssh into each one in-turn :)
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[15:21] <gordonDrogon> or this little device: http://4tronix.co.uk/store/index.php?rt=product/product&path=43&product_id=377
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[15:27] <Darkwater> Sonny_Jim: actually encrypting it wouldn't be hard
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[15:27] <Darkwater> just distribute public keys with raspbian and decrypt it on the server side
[15:28] <Sonny_Jim> meh you are missing the point
[15:28] <Darkwater> I'm just addressing that one point
[15:28] <Sonny_Jim> I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be miffed if they turned their Pi on and it contacted and registered itself with a external server
[15:28] <Sonny_Jim> No matter if it were encrypted or not
[15:28] <Darkwater> I know this system is probably flawed but to instantly shoot it down as a bad idea is a bit too much imo
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[15:29] <shiftplusone> I don't think it's a bad idea
[15:29] <Sonny_Jim> it's all subjective
[15:29] <Darkwater> some config file on the fat patition could work
[15:29] <gordonDrogon> its simply too fraught with issues - and impossible to identify more than one Pi on a given LAN behind a single NAT gateway.
[15:29] <Darkwater> as in make it an opt-in thing
[15:29] <shiftplusone> I think it's a good idea, just not worth executing.
[15:29] <Sonny_Jim> I just get kinda annoyed when people pop up and go "Make this thing for me"
[15:30] <Darkwater> gordonDrogon: you only see rpis that are booted while you have the page open
[15:30] <Darkwater> I never intended it to be a "here's an idea, pls poot in raspbian"
[15:30] <Darkwater> kind of thing
[15:30] <gordonDrogon> you need a way to identify a Pi, so you'd login to the web site, see the list of booted Pi's that you're allowed to see, push a button on the web site that sends a command back to that Pi, that then flashed an LED...
[15:30] <Darkwater> I just had this idea a couple of minutes ago and wanted to talk about it
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[15:31] <Darkwater> gordonDrogon: you don't understand
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> but if you go to the effort of doing all that, you might as well just plug in that ID board from 4tronix.
[15:31] <Darkwater> maybe it's easier to explain in steps
[15:31] <Darkwater> 1. you visit the page
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> ok
[15:31] <Darkwater> 2. you turn on the pi
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> ok
[15:31] <Darkwater> 3. only that pi appears on the page
[15:31] <Darkwater> you would only see multiple pis if multiple pis are booted at the same time
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> sure - and in a class, everyone turns on their Pi at the same time... really, who'll wait 1 minute for each Pi - a class of 60 Pi's would be over by the time the last one booted!
[15:32] <Darkwater> and that's one flaw I can think of
[15:32] <Darkwater> never said it's flawless
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> it's a complete show stopper for a class...
[15:32] <Darkwater> not always
[15:32] <Darkwater> ie. in my case
[15:32] <SpeedEvil> Have them learn morse.
[15:33] <Darkwater> rpis are distributed to people who need then, when they need them
[15:33] <gordonDrogon> You can flash the OK LED from software, but far easier to just plug in a dongle of some sorts.
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[15:34] <Darkwater> except you'd need external hardware then
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[15:36] <Darkwater> actually, since it would only be feasible as an opt-in feature, you'd probably need some sort of config on the boot partition
[15:36] <SpeedEvil> A DS1820B would make a nice additional sensor - and ID
[15:36] <Darkwater> which is accessible on windows because it's a fat partition
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> why not just run my findPi script then?
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[15:37] <Darkwater> in the config file, a user could put an arbitrary string that they also put on the website
[15:37] <Darkwater> which solves the classroom problem
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[15:38] <shiftplusone> of course somebody would echo filth onto other people's pis and randomly reboot them >.>
[15:39] <shiftplusone> Hell, we get that in an office >_<
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[15:39] <shiftplusone> in pi towers, you can just ssh pi@raspberrypi, enter raspbian and you're into somebody's pi =P
[15:39] <shiftplusone> *raspberry
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> most of my Pi's have static IP addresses, so I know what they are, but when I'm setting up a new one, or have re-flashed an SD, then I use the findPi script to find it. I could look at the dhcp logs, but that means logging onto my dhcp server. easier to just type findPi on my Linux workstation
[15:41] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, why not make sure that the dns server resolved the hostname?
[15:41] <shiftplusone> *resolves
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> it does for the static ones.
[15:42] <nicolas17> I use avahi
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> the dynamic ones have dns entries too, but there's 20 of them - I could try each in-turn, but it's easer to run findPi
[15:42] <shiftplusone> I found that works best for me. I have a few pis on my desk, so I can just ssh shift-pi2, for example and be in regardless of what the IP is.
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[15:43] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, sure - but that assumes you've already booted it once to set its hostname...
[15:43] <shiftplusone> or just put the hostname in after flashing the card.
[15:43] <nicolas17> there's a script somewhere that blinks the IP address over the ACT LED :D
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[15:43] <gordonDrogon> nicolas17, as long as you're good at counting :)
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[15:45] <shiftplusone> Nuh, just set up another pi with a camera attached and have a program to analyse the video and say what the IP is =P
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[15:46] <shiftplusone> or make a fiberoptic link >.>
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[15:58] <Sonny_Jim> Cool
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[15:58] <Sonny_Jim> So I've got my simple UDP server running
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[16:04] <hosler> udp server?
[16:04] <hosler> you mean a server that only uses udp?
[16:05] <nicolas17> shiftplusone: fiber optic eh... that gives me ideas >.>
[16:06] <nicolas17> I wonder if I can get my Pi to talk to my LEGO Spybot
[16:06] <Sonny_Jim> It's a simple server so I can send control messages via UDP to play noises
[16:07] <Sonny_Jim> The side effect is that I'll be able to communicate with my C program from a Python program easily
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[16:14] <hosler> yeah udp is cool
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[16:17] <gordonDrogon> until you start to get packets in the wrong order and missing :)
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[16:18] <Sonny_Jim> All the messages get put into a queue once decoded and it's not going to travel across a network, only localhost
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[16:19] <Sonny_Jim> Worked at a place where we sold betting tickets via handheld devices
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[16:19] <Sonny_Jim> For some stupid reason the guy who coded the handheld software thought it would be a good idea to use UDP instead of TCP to do it
[16:19] <mikroskeem> hi i have a question
[16:20] <mikroskeem> according to http://elinux.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi_Kernel_Compilation i have to use imagetool-uncompressed.py to get bootable kernel
[16:20] <mikroskeem> ''' 12. From the tools clone location, in the mkimage directory, run "./imagetool-uncompressed.py ${KERNEL_SRC}/arch/arm/boot/zImage" '''
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[16:21] <mikroskeem> is this needed anymore? I can boot bare zImage
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[16:48] <shiftplusone> mikroskeem, not at all
[16:48] <shiftplusone> outdated information
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[17:26] <SopaXorzTaker> Hacking furbies is cruel!
[17:26] <SopaXorzTaker> Hacking furbies is cruel!
[17:26] <SopaXorzTaker> Hacking furbies is cruel!
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[17:54] <Keanu73> Hi
[17:54] <zlimvos> annoying.. unboxed my first rpi , coming with SD card preinstalled NOOBS, and when it boots i get an error on the partition and 0Mbyte available for OS ..
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[17:56] <Keanu73> zlimvos: get rid of NOOBS on the SD card and install Raspbian on the SD card instead
[17:56] <Keanu73> first format the SD card then burn Raspbian to the SD card instead
[17:57] <zlimvos> thanks Keanu73 sounds good
[17:57] <Keanu73> helpful links:
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[17:57] <Keanu73> http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
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[17:58] <Keanu73> find Raspbian, download the image, format SD card, burn the image to SD card with Win32DiskImager
[17:58] <Keanu73> zlimvos: are you on Windows?
[17:58] <zlimvos> i format in fat32?
[17:58] <zlimvos> yes
[17:58] <Keanu73> ok
[17:58] <Keanu73> zlimvos
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[17:59] <Keanu73> I don't know just format it any way you want to
[17:59] <Keanu73> plus
[17:59] <Keanu73> tip
[17:59] <Keanu73> when you're on your raspberry pi
[17:59] <Keanu73> you could go on IRC on the raspberry pi too
[18:00] <Keanu73> just run sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:00] <Keanu73> in the terminal
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[18:00] <Keanu73> go into desktop by typing startx
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[18:00] <zlimvos> ok. since we are here , do you know if i can run ftpd, socksd and things like that with raspbian?
[18:00] <Keanu73> yes
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[18:00] <Keanu73> all you need to do is sudo apt-get install <whatever>
[18:01] <Keanu73> <whatever> is what the package you want to install, like ftpd, xchat, etc.
[18:01] <zlimvos> nice :) and media player stuff i guess . there is much to read. have to get it boot first
[18:01] <Keanu73> well
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[18:01] <Keanu73> mplayer is the best for playing music
[18:01] <Keanu73> omxplayer is the best for playing videos
[18:02] <zlimvos> if i want to run that xmbd thing, i need to boot at it correct?
[18:02] <Keanu73> wait
[18:02] <Keanu73> what's xmbd
[18:02] <Keanu73> :|
[18:02] <Keanu73> never heard it
[18:03] <zlimvos> xbmc!
[18:03] <PovAddictW> maybe you mean xbmc?
[18:03] <Keanu73> oh
[18:03] <Keanu73> Oh the media center
[18:03] <Keanu73> if you want XBMC, you have to burn the image of it to the SD card, not Raspbian
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[18:05] <zlimvos> yeap got it. thanks ppl
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[18:05] <Keanu73> you welcome zlimvos
[18:06] <Keanu73> zlimvos
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[18:06] <Keanu73> I have some handy shell scripts for your Pi zlimvos
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[18:20] <Yacou> Someone available for checking this : http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=88799 ?
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[18:26] <XHFHX> Hi there. I just set up my raspberry pi and have ome problems with my internet connection. I can connect via SSH and can ping sites like google.de, but I can't get any webpages loaded in my browser. What could be the problem?
[18:26] <Keanu73> what browser are you using
[18:27] <Yacou> links2
[18:28] <Keanu73> Yacou I'm asking XHFHX not you
[18:28] <XHFHX> well, its not just a browser specific problem. I tried "wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.qsc.de/1GB.qsc" but this wont work either
[18:28] <Darkwater> lynx
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[18:29] <Yacou> Wow.
[18:29] <Yacou> And how I supposed to know that?
[18:29] <Yacou> Just tried to help.
[18:30] <Keanu73> ok..
[18:31] <Matt3o12> Hey. I’m thinking of buying a respbarry PI and wonder which SD card to use. I’m going to need a quick one since the PI will need a database (SQLite or any other serverless database), which will have a size of about 10GB (not growing in size, though changing rapdily). I was thinking of buying a Transcend Ultimate-Speed SDHC Class 10 UHS-1, which claims to have up to 90GBs read speed. Is that true and will Raspbarry PI be able to take advantage of th
[18:31] <Matt3o12> Will it work in the long run (i.e. 24/7 usage)?
[18:31] <shiftplusone> Yacou, we just assume all questions are aimed at XHFHX =P
[18:31] <shiftplusone> ah, I misread what happened >_<
[18:32] <shiftplusone> Yacou, but yeah, I had a look at your thread and I don't see what the problem is. I am not sure you said what actually happens vs what's supposed to happen.
[18:32] <shiftplusone> It's more like "Here's a wall of text, and here's another wall of text"
[18:33] <Yacou> Well, it supposed to play more than one song.
[18:33] <Yacou> And that stops at the end of the first song played.
[18:33] <Yacou> That stops but OMX doesn't exit.
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[18:34] <Yacou> Nothing is displayed in stdout
[18:34] <shiftplusone> Why use omxplayer for audio?
[18:35] <Matt3o12> Can anyone help me with my question? Or what SD card would you go for?
[18:35] <Yacou> What I'd use?
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[18:35] <shiftplusone> Yacou, If you can make it easy to replicate, I can poke dom. But really, I'd just use mocp, mplayer, vlc or something along those lines.
[18:36] <Yacou> I tried mplayer and VLC yesterday.
[18:36] <shiftplusone> and what happened?
[18:36] <Yacou> mplayer mess with buffer and VLC had a low low low sound volume
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[18:37] <Yacou> If you can make it easy to replicate, I can poke dom <- didn't get that (bad English)
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[18:38] <Travis> Yacou: using which OS? VLC isn't available for Pidora, that I can find.
[18:38] <Yacou> Raspbian.
[18:39] <Keanu73> Matt3o12: what model are you gonna buy
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[18:41] <Matt3o12> @Keanu73 B+
[18:41] <Matt3o12> The most recent one...
[18:41] <Keanu73> you need to buy a micro SD card.
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[18:41] <Yacou> Maybe mplayer misses some libs
[18:41] <Keanu73> the B+ only supports micro SD card, not normal one
[18:41] <Keanu73> I have a B+ and I'm running it now
[18:42] <Matt3o12> @Keanu73 Ok, thanks, I didn’t know that. What SD Card would you suggest (I really need quick reads and decent writes over a long time).
[18:42] <Matt3o12> *Micro SD, I mean
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[18:42] <Keanu73> well
[18:42] <Keanu73> I'd suggest SanDisk
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[18:45] <Matt3o12> well, will raspberry be able to take advantage of SanDisk Extreme PRO® microSDHC UHS-I Card’s full 95 Read/90Write speeds?
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[18:47] <Yacou> shiftplusone: mocp and vlc have the same problem
[18:47] <Yacou> the sound is very low.
[18:47] <Yacou> (PCM 50%)
[18:47] <shiftplusone> That's not a problem with the software
[18:48] <Yacou> But it works for read the next song
[18:48] <Yacou> And OMX have normal volume.
[18:49] <Keanu73> Matt3o12: I have that SD card, and it copes with it
[18:49] <Travis> The card that came with my Pi was a micro, with a full size SD adapter.
[18:50] <Travis> The "Make" kits haven't upgraded to the B+
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[18:50] <Yacou> Do I need codecs or something else?
[18:51] <shiftplusone> Yacou, no, it's just a matter of fixing the volume level.
[18:51] <Yacou> Damn, that works
[18:51] <Yacou> (just with alsamixer, the PCM was at 0 there)
[18:52] <shiftplusone> yup
[18:52] <Yacou> I'll try to interface mopc with Python
[18:52] <Yacou> Thank you!
[18:52] <Yacou> (I was making backup in order to reinstall Raspbian�)
[18:52] <shiftplusone> maybe take a look at mpd
[18:53] <Yacou> To replace mocp?
[18:53] <Yacou> Or works with it?
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[18:59] <Matt3o12> @Keanu73 Ok, thanks. I’ll give that a shot!
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[19:01] <RoyK> anyone that knows a nice and simple cpu benchmark tool to use? just want to compare this rpi to a banana pi
[19:03] <PovAddictW> povray :)
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[19:05] <RoyK> heh - seems like a wee bit overkill
[19:06] <PovAddictW> now I want to try it myself
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[19:23] <RoyK> in-te-resting...
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[19:25] <RoyK> sha256sum of a 128MB file, apparently 100% cached on both a raspberrypi and a bananapi, the process takes ~10.5 secs on one and ~16.5 secs on the other - guess which :P
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[19:30] <existensil> guessing the one with the faster CPU can calc sha256 faster
[19:30] <existensil> surprise
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[19:36] <ShadowJK> what is banana pi
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[19:37] <shiftplusone> It's like a pi without any of the things which make a pi good.
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[19:38] <existensil> but more power
[19:38] <existensil> :-P
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[19:43] <plugwash> ShadowJK, The banana Pi is a chinese board with the same form factor as a raspberry pi B but a completely different set of components
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[19:43] <Travis> LOL
[19:43] <Travis> China is jealous.
[19:44] <plugwash> It's got gigabit ethernet and a dual core cortex A7 processor, no idea how good it's GPU is
[19:44] <existensil> Mali 400 should be no slouch
[19:44] <existensil> GPU wise
[19:45] <plugwash> And they need to work on avoiding trademark infringement and providing documentation (last I checked there didn't seem to be any, this Pi's documentation is poor but at least it's not nonexistent)
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[19:45] <plugwash> apparently someone was giving them away at debconf so the software support may end up pretty decent in the end ;)
[19:47] <RoyK> shiftplusone: erm - it's got more, really
[19:48] <shiftplusone> RoyK, more what?
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[19:48] <RoyK> shiftplusone: LEDs :D
[19:48] <plugwash> Well more CPU power certainly
[19:49] <RoyK> that's what counts, isn't it?
[19:49] <shiftplusone> I don't think the pi is popular because of its LED count or CPU power >_<
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[19:49] <RoyK> with raspbian default install, however, it lost it to the original pi
[19:50] <shiftplusone> The things which differentiate the pi from beaglebone black, gumstix, cubieboard, odroid and whatever else there is... banana pi doesn't have them.
[19:50] <plugwash> RoyK, hmm got a link for that
[19:50] <RoyK> looks more like raspbian is very specifically crafted for the original rpi
[19:50] <RoyK> plugwash: no - just testing here with a rpi and a bpi
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[19:51] <plugwash> RoyK, not massively so, I'd be very interested in knowing what the tests were
[19:51] <RoyK> shasum of a 128MB file
[19:51] <RoyK> same file
[19:51] <plugwash> shiftplusone, the main thing that differentiates the Pi is that it was the first board in it's price/capability range and so has built up the best community
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[19:51] <RoyK> an i7 uses some 600ms for that, the pi, original config, no overclocking, used 10s, the bpi, no config, used 16s
[19:52] <RoyK> or thereabout
[19:52] <shiftplusone> There is the charity and support from the engineers (folks like Dom and Gert) going for it... and nobody has managed to get a board in the same price range yet.
[19:52] <RoyK> plugwash: not criticizing anything - just saying what I see :)
[19:52] <Travis> The Beagle is Ubuntu compatible :D
[19:53] <Travis> The RPI is not
[19:53] * shiftplusone chalks up another tick next to rpi =P
[19:53] <RoyK> Travis: the BPI is
[19:53] <RoyK> ubuntu doesn't support softfloat
[19:53] <RoyK> the A20 has hardfloat
[19:54] <plugwash> The Pi also has hardfloat, unfortunately it doesn't have armv7 :(
[19:54] <RoyK> (and virtualisation, whenever the kvm guys get that right for ARM)
[19:55] <RoyK> perhaps I should try ubuntu (or debian) on this thing :)
[19:55] <plugwash> RoyK, i'm just curious, did you notice any performance differences running the sha1sum multiple times in a row that could indicate storage being the bottleneck
[19:55] <plugwash> (or was it consistent indicating CPU was the bottleneck)
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[19:55] <RoyK> plugwash: the file is 128MB - it's cached - vmstat running during shasum showed minimal I/O
[19:56] <plugwash> or maybe sha1sum is just a pathalogical case for the A7 core.........
[19:56] <RoyK> plugwash: A7, that's the one in the pi, right?
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[19:57] <plugwash> no cortex A7 is what's in the allwinner A20 (yes these names are confusing), the A7 is designed to be a modern small/low power core
[19:57] <RoyK> ok
[19:57] <RoyK> when both were at 1GHz, performance was the same (ish)
[19:58] <plugwash> The raspberry Pi has a much older arm11 series core which AIUI should be slower clock for clock but it's a very different design so there may be edge cases where it isn't
[19:58] <RoyK> but it seems raspbian clocked that bpi down a bit
[19:58] <plugwash> raspbian certainly didn't do that
[19:58] <RoyK> well
[19:58] <RoyK> when I chose to "overclock" it to 1GHz, it performed well
[19:58] <plugwash> the banana Pi guy's raspbian image may well have done, I never got the impression they were massively competant
[19:59] <RoyK> heh
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[20:00] <RoyK> guess I need to print out a good box for the bpi
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[20:01] <Travis> I now have Raspbian installed. If I could find Hexchat for it, I'd be happy right now.
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[20:04] <plugwash> RoyK, on a totally different note I saw some reports that the banana Pi was slightly bigger than a raspberry pi and so wouldn't fit raspberry pi cases
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[20:04] <plugwash> since you have one can you measure it and confirm or refute said reports
[20:06] <RoyK> plugwash: it doesn't fit. period. thus I need to print something
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[20:07] <RoyK> AFAIK it's the same size of the board, but the connectors are placed elsewhere
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[20:11] <flexus> ipod2000 http://abload.de/image.php?img=img_0403eyuwl.jpg
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[20:11] <flexus> no.. the jogwheel doesnt work
[20:12] <flexus> neither the display, too much smd connectors
[20:13] <existensil> My raspberry pis run headless (no monitor). To shutdown I use 'sudo shutdown now'. Is this the best way? How can I know when its done and safe to unplug?
[20:13] <existensil> guessing my ssh sessions drop log before the device is actually shutdown
[20:13] <flexus> existensil: i think the power leds indicate it
[20:14] <existensil> the PWR seems to be lit regardless. Either that or mine are never fully shutting down.
[20:14] <existensil> they reboot just fine
[20:15] <existensil> I'm using a wifi dongle, so if I'm waiting for the ethernet lnk lights to stop they aren't lit to begin with
[20:15] <flexus> maybe some timing relay and set it to 1min
[20:16] <flexus> activated through some transistor
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[20:17] <pksato> existensil: on normal condition, cut power few seconds after ethernet lights off is safe.
[20:18] <existensil> yeah, but mine are never on :-)
[20:18] <pksato> ah oh... yes. :)
[20:18] <existensil> I'll just give it like 20 seconds after ssh drops
[20:18] <existensil> :-P
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[20:18] <pksato> led on some gpio pin
[20:18] <existensil> that could work
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[20:19] <pksato> set on on boot. and, off (or even, not need) on shutdown.
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[20:20] <pksato> 5V on header have litle voltage change on stand-by/halt mode.
[20:20] <existensil> oh, was hoping the 3.3v would shut off after shutdown, but it doesn't
[20:21] <existensil> guess i'd have to dedicate a GPIO
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[20:23] <plugwash> Travis, try something along the lines of
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> existensil, sudo halt is the least typing to do. when it's shutdown the ACT/OK LED will start blinking (10 times) at that point it's safe to pull the plug.
[20:23] <plugwash> apt-get install build-essential devscripts debian-keyring
[20:23] <plugwash> dget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/hexchat/hexchat_2.10.1-1.dsc
[20:23] <plugwash> cd hexchat-2.10.1
[20:24] <plugwash> dpkg-buildpackage -b
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> existensil, additionally, if you put an LED on the serial Tx line, then this will go off when it's shutdown too.
[20:24] <plugwash> (if it complains about missing build-deps install them and run dpkg-buildpackage -b again)
[20:25] <existensil> interesting. thanks
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> actually, all the gpio's will go off at shutdown time, but the Tx is handy as it also goes On at boot time.
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> it's used by some of the ups/auto power-off type boards.
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[20:28] <Travis> dang it. let me type this in LOL
[20:28] <existensil> is that Pin 8/GPIO14/TXD ? referencing http://superpiboy.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/raspberry-pi-rev2-gpio-pinout.jpg
[20:28] <existensil> gordonDrogon: ^^
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> yes.
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[20:30] <gordonDrogon> but the ACT/OK LED is just as easy to detect flashing if you're looking at it.
[20:30] <existensil> heh. never really noticed that light.
[20:30] <gordonDrogon> it's green. normally off except when the SD card is being accessed.
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[20:31] <existensil> that's mostly what i'm worried about anyways... interrupting a write to the SD card
[20:31] <existensil> could care less if the shutdown is complete, just want to make sure writes have stopped
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[20:44] <brian1001> i finally received the new B+ , gonna experiment with it soon :) , glad that i dont have to use the big SD card anymore
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[20:44] <PovAddictW> have fun :)
[20:44] <brian1001> hehe
[20:44] <irc_smirk> hello
[20:45] <irc_smirk> i should have gotten 2
[20:45] <irc_smirk> now i have to pay shipping again :(
[20:45] <irc_smirk> hey anyone know of a small usb microphone
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[20:45] <irc_smirk> like thats a small dongle
[20:47] <pksato> I know (not to) small usb audio dongle. Never see a one with builtin mic.
[20:48] <brian1001> geez i had a stupid problem today , someone gave me this sort of PIR sensor and i connected it to my old Raspberry wich worked fine but the PIR seems to react when i switch the lights off in the room :-). i tried a 'normal'N/C PIR , and that one worked
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[20:51] <pksato> reply to irc_smirk in case of his return http://www.dx.com/p/mi-305-plug-and-play-mini-usb-microphone-black-287434#.VDgqVa27Fpg
[20:54] <Travis> plugwash: saiys "validation failed."
[20:55] <Travis> says*......it said that when I tried the download command.
[20:56] <plugwash> what does sha1sum hexchat_2.10.1-1.dsc give?
[20:56] <Travis> I don't have IRC on the pi, so this will take a min to type
[20:57] <PovAddictW> the first few chars should be enough
[20:57] <Travis> #02c02ca91057cc2a........
[20:57] <plugwash> it should be 02c02ca91057cc2a3f1ae0a8454d60e3ea04dfaa
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[20:57] <Travis> it is
[20:58] <Travis> gpg: fatal /root/.gnupg: directory does not exist
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[20:58] <Travis> let me get onto freenode from a browser on my pi
[20:59] <plugwash> you can extract the source manually with dpkg-source -x hexchat_2.10.1-1.dsc
[21:00] <Travis> and compile that way?
[21:01] <plugwash> yeah
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[21:02] <Keanu73> zlimvos
[21:02] <Keanu73> I'm on my Windows laptop
[21:03] <Travis> Here goes nothing.
[21:03] <Keanu73> Plus.. who'll help me with my code
[21:03] <Keanu73> http://prntscr.com/4uw40a
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[21:03] <Travis> plugwash: command executed. Now what? I don't see anything different in the folder.
[21:04] <plugwash> you ran dpkg-buildpackage -b ?
[21:04] <Travis> yes
[21:04] <plugwash> what did it say?
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[21:07] <Travis> said warning: build dependencies unsatisfied; aborting
[21:07] <PovAddictW> man
[21:07] <PovAddictW> compiling software natively on the pi takes forever
[21:08] <plugwash> Travis, install the missing build-dependencies and then run dpkg-buildpackage -b again
[21:08] <Keanu73> um
[21:08] <PovAddictW> it would take less time for to build a cross-compiler from source :D
[21:08] <PovAddictW> on my PC
[21:08] <Travis> grrrr
[21:09] <Travis> forgot to go root
[21:09] <pksato> have a tool to resolve build dependencies, but I never recall the name.
[21:10] <PovAddictW> apt-get build-dep?
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[21:15] <plugwash> PovAddictW, unfortunately apt-get build-dep can only use information from the repository
[21:15] <plugwash> rather than information from the source tree you are working on
[21:15] <plugwash> which somewhat limits it's usefulness
[21:15] * plugwash usually just uses copy/paste to install build-dependencies though it can be annoying if a lot of them are versioned :/
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[21:19] <Travis> you can do more than one file at a time?
[21:19] <Travis> what was I thinking
[21:20] <plugwash> yes you can put multiple packages on the apt-get install command line
[21:22] <Travis> That's simple enough. Pardon me while I C&P.
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[21:25] <pksato> another RPi killer :) http://propellerpowered.com/shop/?page_id=1946
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> hardly.
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[21:26] <gordonDrogon> it's jus a fast PIC running BASIC with a propeller chip next to it...
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> I suspect a Pi running my RTB would be a good contender to that.
[21:29] <plugwash> <shiftplusone> There is the charity and support from the engineers (folks like Dom and Gert) going for it... and nobody has managed to get a board in the same price range yet. <-- depends how narrow your definition of "same price range" is. There are a lot of boards that are slightly more expensive than the Pi and with slightly better specs. Theres also a few linux boards that are cheaper than the Pi but with much worse specs
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[21:30] <shiftplusone> plugwash, What would be an example of a cheaper board?
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[21:31] <RoyK> interesting... installing raspberian on a banana pi works ok, but performance testing shows it's significantly slower than a raspberry pi (shasum-test)
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[21:31] <RoyK> running debian on the same thing show the opposite
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[21:32] <RoyK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8535018/
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[21:33] <plugwash> Were the clockspeeds set up the same in both cases?
[21:33] <plugwash> (e.g. is it a fundamental difference between debian and raspbian or was one of the images just built by an idiot)
[21:34] <RoyK> with raspbian they performed the same when both were clocked at 1GHz
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[21:34] <shiftplusone> I bet the foundation paid off plugwash to cripple competitor product's performance =P
[21:34] <RoyK> with debian, the bpi outperformed the rpi twofold when the rpi was at 700MHz
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[21:35] <PovAddictW> what version of debian?
[21:35] <PovAddictW> armhf?
[21:35] <RoyK> with standard installation on both with raspbian, rpi outperformed the bpi by 40% or so
[21:35] <plugwash> RoyK, and what was the bpi clocked at when testing with debian?
[21:35] <RoyK> plugwash: not sure how I find the clock
[21:36] <shiftplusone> but really, if you want to compare performance, but fire up an emulator, watch a movie, open a few browser windows and drag them around, compile something... do stuff you'd normally do. I doubt you use your hw solely for shasums.
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[21:36] <plugwash> shiftplusone, I had nothing to do with the production of a raspbian image for the banana Pi
[21:36] <PovAddictW> what CPU does the banana pi have?
[21:36] <RoyK> root@BananaPi:~# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[21:36] <RoyK> 912000
[21:37] <RoyK> PovAddictW: A20
[21:37] <plugwash> PovAddictW, it's an allwinner A20 which is dual core cortex A7 based chip
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> well it looks intersting - just watched/skipped through their 2 demo videos - not really seeing anything that I can't do in RTB though. RTB's sound might not be quite SID quality though.
[21:37] <shiftplusone> plugwash, heh, the =P implies I wasn't being serious. But for the sake of argument, you compiled the packages after all.
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> it would be fun device to have if I didn't already have a Pi.
[21:38] <PovAddictW> are you comparing the same version of debian on both?
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[21:38] <RoyK> RTB? SID?
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[21:38] <gordonDrogon> RoyK, RTB is Return to Basics - a Basic-like language interpreter I wrote.
[21:38] <RoyK> gordonDrogon: just had to get one - wanted another pi, but this one was nice
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> RoyK, SID is the sound chip in the C64.
[21:39] <RoyK> C64 FTW!
[21:39] * plugwash wonders if arm cheaped out on the pathways for "arm mode" in the cortex A7
[21:39] <shiftplusone> and now the SID chip is used all over the place
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> some people would say BBC Micro or Apple II FTW, etc.
[21:39] <plugwash> since most people are using thumb2 mode on armv7 processors
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[21:39] <gordonDrogon> the SID chip was the next one after the BBC Micros sound chip - however the BBC had magic sauce software to make it do pretty much the same thing.
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> I emulate almost all the BBC Micros sound system in RTB.
[21:40] <RoyK> I like this little banana, though ;)
[21:40] <plugwash> also sha1sum may lose a lot from the lack of movw and movt
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> including the 14-parameter envelope command :-|
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> gonna go some bread stuff now. back later.
[21:41] <plugwash> since iirc sha1 involves some BIG constants
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[21:55] <RoyK> what does raspbian do so well with resizing the root that my ubuntu thing on this bpi cannot_
[21:55] <RoyK> ?
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[21:56] <shiftplusone> This isn't a bpi support channel =S
[21:56] <plugwash> the root resizing is part or raspi-config which is a configuration tool included on the raspberry pi foundation raspbian image
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[21:57] <omfgtora> hello!
[21:57] <Travis> plugwash: I am now compiling as we speak.
[21:57] <omfgtora> my girlfriend bought me a pi and im really excited... but i am waiting on my order of a power cable right now
[21:57] <plugwash> there isn't anything particulally magic in there though, if someone can't adapt it to their environment they are pretty incompetant to be preparing linux distribution images
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[21:58] <ecklip> hello
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[21:58] <omfgtora> im very new to linux myself
[21:58] <ecklip> same here!
[21:58] <omfgtora> i thought a pi would be a great way to get to know it better
[21:59] <ecklip> i'm new here and with the raspberry seeking some tutor
[21:59] <omfgtora> i have a digital ocean VPS with ubuntu server 14.04, and i played around with some other distro's using a VM
[21:59] <omfgtora> that is pretty much all my experience with linux
[21:59] <plugwash> the process of resizing the root partition is simple enough, remove the partition, recreate it with the same start sector but a larger size, tell the kernel to re-read the partition table and the call the resize tool
[22:00] <ecklip> anyone french can help me finish my project with pi noir?
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[22:06] <ecklip> can someone help me with pi noir plz?
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[22:07] <pksato> ecklip: just ask, someone help you. (after some time)
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[22:10] <irc_smirk> hi
[22:10] <PovAddictW> <pksato> reply to irc_smirk in case of his return http://www.dx.com/p/mi-305-plug-and-play-mini-usb-microphone-black-287434#.VDgqVa27Fpg
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[22:11] <irc_smirk> oh nice!
[22:12] <omfgtora> are the 5mp cameras on amazon bad? i heard they were not worth it at all
[22:13] <irc_smirk> wtf. how on earth do you make a profit on a $5 item and free shipping
[22:13] <PovAddictW> heh
[22:13] <irc_smirk> i mean someone somewhere has to assemble it
[22:13] <SpeedEvil> By making it for $1
[22:13] <ecklip> cant seem to make pi noir + external webcam work togeter /dev dont have video1
[22:13] <irc_smirk> or are robots making everything now
[22:14] <SpeedEvil> Oooh - it even has tux
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[22:14] <plugwash> irc_smirk, robots make some things but basic labour in poor countries is cheap
[22:15] <plugwash> so often it's cheaper to pay someone to sit in a sweatshop and do it by hand than to buy the robots
[22:15] <plugwash> (especially if it's something tricky for robots to do)
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[22:15] <irc_smirk> suddenly i feel rich
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[22:18] <ecklip> cant seem to make pi noir + external webcam work togeter /dev dont have video1
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[22:21] <Travis> plugwash: victory is mine!
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[22:25] <Travis> I am now on HexChat via my Pi
[22:26] <PovAddictW> :D
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[22:29] <plugwash> shiftplusone, btw are you still working for raspberry pi?
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[22:30] <shiftplusone> plugwash, yes sir, so I'll see you when you drop by.
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[22:57] <j416> o/ I'm about to get a r pi to use as an IRC bouncer (ZNC) -- does anyone have an argument for why this would be a bad idea?
[22:59] <pksato> why you need a bouncer?
[23:00] <Travis> I use one.
[23:00] <j416> because I'm tired of losing context when I reboot my main computer
[23:01] <pksato> dont reboot you main computer. :)
[23:01] <j416> well, it's a mac, and it needs to be rebooted every other month to remain happy (system updates and whatnot)
[23:01] <j416> :)
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[23:02] <j416> plus it'd be nice to not have to use ssh+tmux on my phone/tablet for irc.. :D
[23:02] <j416> anwyay
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[23:02] <pksato> just dont make a open bouncer.
[23:03] <j416> I see on random places on the internet how people complain about r pi io being slow and that made me wonder if it would be a bad idea
[23:04] <pksato> time to lose my irc context...
[23:04] <j416> but I can't figure out what would make it an issue unless implementation of whatever software I'll be running sucks
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[23:10] <zlimvos> hi all. is there a way to expand my partition while running Raspbian?
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[23:10] <Encrypt> zlimvos, Yes
[23:10] <Encrypt> raspi-config > Advanced > Extend filesystem
[23:10] <Encrypt> Or something like that
[23:10] <zlimvos> thanks
[23:13] <zlimvos> nice much better
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[23:16] <flughafen_> is there something weird? or does the kernel hide some ram? i have a pi spec b v2 with 512mb of ram, but free -m only shows 184 total
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[23:16] <flughafen_> i ordered it in july 2013
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[23:18] <plugwash> the GPU does take some memory but it shouldn't take that much
[23:18] <Encrypt> flughafen_, Because you haven't changed the repartition of the RAM between the GPU and CPU
[23:18] <Encrypt> flexus, As well as zlimvos, run $ raspi-config
[23:19] <Encrypt> Than Advanced > Memory Split
[23:19] <Encrypt> Then*
[23:19] <Encrypt> flughafen_, *
[23:19] <Encrypt> Be aware that less memory for the GPU means a less responsive display
[23:19] <flughafen_> Encrypt: ahhhhh
[23:19] <Encrypt> Or "laggy display"
[23:19] <flughafen_> Encrypt: that's right, i remember reading that somewhere
[23:19] <Encrypt> Also, the minimum you can give it is 16 MB
[23:20] <flughafen_> hmmm
[23:20] <Encrypt> Less than 16MB to the GPU = your RPi wont boot :P
[23:20] * flughafen_ should not have switched to aes512 :/
[23:20] <Encrypt> For what? :p
[23:20] <Encrypt> Filesystem encryption?
[23:20] <flughafen_> my external harddrice
[23:20] <flughafen_> usb
[23:21] <Encrypt> I see :p
[23:21] <flughafen_> the disk was ok, the previous drive was aes256, but I could play big HD files
[23:21] <Encrypt> flughafen_, What do you use your Pi for?
[23:21] <flughafen_> but I switched to aes512 and now i can't get shit to play unless it's really tiny... media center
[23:22] <flughafen_> hd content can play, but needs ot be really small
[23:22] <flughafen_> like 700mb
[23:22] <Encrypt> flughafen_, So, the Pi has to decrypt the video from the Hard Drive and directly displays it on TV?
[23:22] <flughafen_> Encrypt: yes
[23:22] <Encrypt> Ok
[23:22] <flughafen_> hdparm -t shows 12mb/sec
[23:23] <flexus> Encrypt: why ?
[23:23] <Encrypt> flexus, Fail HL, I meant flughafen_
[23:23] <Encrypt> Sorry
[23:23] <flexus> using arch, me no raspi-config :]
[23:24] <flexus> np
[23:24] * flughafen_ is using arch also
[23:24] <j416> thanks for the implicit input.
[23:24] <j416> !
[23:24] <flexus> i use gparted for resizing and error checking
[23:24] <flughafen_> Encrypt: sensitive data on there among media
[23:24] <Encrypt> flughafen_, Do you know encfs?
[23:24] <Encrypt> It allows to encrypt directories
[23:24] <flughafen_> Encrypt: no
[23:24] <flughafen_> i just use dmcrypt/luks
[23:25] <Encrypt> You should have a look then
[23:25] <flughafen_> but i can't unencrypt my drive now
[23:25] <flexus> luks is pretty common
[23:25] <Encrypt> Because you would encrypt the sensitive data and let the videos unencrypted
[23:25] <flexus> maybe cause of gpt
[23:25] <Encrypt> Moreover, thats very simple:
[23:25] <flughafen_> my sd card that boots is unencrypted
[23:26] <flughafen_> the external drive doesn't contain system info
[23:26] <Encrypt> encfs <path to encrypted files> <path to decrypted files>
[23:26] <Encrypt> That's the only command you've to know
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[23:26] <Encrypt> encfs will mount the encrypted volume
[23:27] <Encrypt> Any change done in the unencrypted path will immediately be encrypted to the encrypted folder
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[23:28] <flughafen_> but i can't une ncrypt my drive now
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[23:30] <Encrypt> flughafen_, Yes, I know
[23:30] <Encrypt> You may do it later if you're interested
[23:30] <Encrypt> ;)
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[23:31] <flughafen_> i'm partially interested, but i can't change my encryption scheme or undo it, unless i move all data off the drive
[23:31] <flughafen_> which is hard because i doubled my drive size :)
[23:32] <Encrypt> :p
[23:34] <gordonDrogon> well that was that. enough dough made up to sink a battleship..
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[23:35] <flughafen_> there should be a way to do this... align all data to the back and create the partition in the front, and shrink the partition
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[23:38] <flughafen_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/245112/can-i-disable-full-disk-encryption
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