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IRC Log for 2014-10-14

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[0:00] <Sonny_Jim> I'll bite:
[0:00] <Sonny_Jim> Why did you buy so many from a bricks and mortar store?
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[0:01] <[Saint]> There was a promotion at a local computer hardware center with poorly worded terms and conditions that allowed me to buy them at a pretty fantastic discount.
[0:02] <[Saint]> It was basically "spend $200 and you can buy this WD 1TB USB portable HDD for $40"
[0:02] <[Saint]> but there wasn't a "limit 1 per customer"
[0:02] <[Saint]> ...so I got 3 dozen.
[0:03] <[Saint]> Shipping three dozen disks would've cost me a small fortune.
[0:03] <[Saint]> I pounced on a poorly worded promotion.
[0:04] <[Saint]> (a promotion which, after my purchase, was immediately suspended :p)
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[0:06] <[Saint]> I had no problem spending the $200 initially to enable me to be eligible for the promotion, I got a bunch of new 40cm case fans, which are absurdly expensive.
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[0:09] <[Saint]> So, Sonny_Jim, that's why. Saving ~60% on RRP.
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[0:09] <Sonny_Jim> Fair enough
[0:09] <Sonny_Jim> reminds me of the guy who did the Air Miles/Pots of yoghurt thing
[0:09] <[Saint]> Hahahahaha. Not quite that severe. ;)
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[0:10] <[Saint]> I did feel a /slight/ pang of guilt. But it quickly passed.
[0:10] <Sonny_Jim> tbf they probably get them at a little less than $40 cost
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[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> But still, shipping costs, handling etc
[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> What's a 1TB external USB drive now, anyway? $80?
[0:11] <[Saint]> Its a large enough supply chain that has been operating for about two decades and they should damn well know how to correctly word promotions by now.
[0:11] <[Saint]> I feel no remorse.
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[0:12] <[Saint]> Here in NZ, this particular model...on sale about $80~90NZD, usually $100~110NZD
[0:12] <[Saint]> So I feel I did pretty well.
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[0:12] <[Saint]> I saved at the very least 50% RRP
[0:12] <Sonny_Jim> Huh weird. My bot keeps on getting 412 numeric codes from efnet
[0:12] <Sonny_Jim> Which is "no text to send"
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[0:14] * [Saint] wonders why its bloody impossible to find an initrd.img-3.16.2-versatile image
[0:14] <[Saint]> (for qemu)
[0:15] <[Saint]> I can't be arsed building my own kernel(s) and making sure there's permanent hosting for it/them
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[0:17] <[Saint]> The unique downloads statistics I have seem to suggest only a few thousand people actually use the debian/arch images I provide for the Archos A101IT/A70 anyway.
[0:17] <[Saint]> WHich in all fairness is actually pretty amazing considering how old the tablet is....
[0:18] <niston> Sonny_Jim: maybe its a script that tries to send an empty privmsg
[0:18] <Sonny_Jim> On my end or someone elses?
[0:23] <flexus> didnt know archos makes tablets- back in the days they had some biiig mp3 players
[0:24] * [Saint] still has the Archos Recorder V1
[0:24] <[Saint]> I believe that's the one you're talking of.
[0:24] <flexus> i think so
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[0:25] <[Saint]> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos_Jukebox_series
[0:25] <flexus> they where the first mp3 players with lcd screens
[0:25] <flexus> real lcd screens
[0:25] <[Saint]> These, they had a fullsize HDD and two massive battery cells along either side.
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[0:26] <[Saint]> bloody great big 2.5" HDD and two rows of D size battery cells.
[0:26] <[Saint]> Heh.
[0:26] <[Saint]> Thing weighed a tonne.
[0:26] <flexus> like this old sega handheld
[0:26] * [Saint] smiles
[0:27] <[Saint]> Nice to see we get a mention on that page:
[0:27] <[Saint]> "The Jukebox is historically notable for shipping with a user interface and operating system so unfriendly and bug-ridden as to inspire Björn Stenberg and other programmers to develop a superior, free and open-source replacement operating system. This project became Rockbox."
[0:27] <flexus> understand
[0:27] <[Saint]> And now...15 years later:
[0:27] <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/
[0:28] <[Saint]> :))
[0:28] <[Saint]> We even run on the raspberrypi :)
[0:28] <flexus> is it some kind of linux distri?
[0:28] * sadkiely is now known as ecirava
[0:28] <[Saint]> No.
[0:29] <flexus> ok i would have installed it on my ipod mini
[0:29] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[0:29] <flexus> so this thing kicks itunes ?
[0:29] <[Saint]> On digital audio players its a unique full firmware replacement that was originally based /vaguely/ on uclinux, but now (and for a very long time, some 14 years) has it own kernel, stack, etc.
[0:29] <flexus> hmm *scratching beard*
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[0:30] <[Saint]> On most iPods, we can dual-boot.
[0:30] <flexus> warranty is void
[0:30] <[Saint]> So you /could/ still use iTunes if you desire.
[0:30] <flexus> nono, no itunes
[0:30] <[Saint]> But, yes. We remove the requirement for using iTunes completely if you desire.
[0:30] <Sonny_Jim> "Would you like to update iTunes? No? Are you sure? Really sure?"
[0:30] <flexus> i need linux playability
[0:31] <flexus> so you move files on the usb device and go play
[0:31] <[Saint]> Yes.
[0:31] <[Saint]> No management software involved at all.
[0:31] <niston> looking at systemctl llist-units
[0:31] <flexus> playlist support?
[0:31] <[Saint]> Yes.
[0:31] <flexus> cool, what i wanted
[0:31] <[Saint]> We support something like 40 container codecs as well.
[0:32] <[Saint]> If Rockbox doesn't play your audio file, its almost certainly an invalid audio file.
[0:32] <flexus> i think mp3 is enough for me
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[0:32] <[Saint]> We support all major (and a lot of very obscure) codecs.
[0:32] <[Saint]> gapless playback, replaygain, crossfade, 10 band full parametric EQ.
[0:32] <[Saint]> Recording.
[0:32] <flexus> maybe a handful of flac and ape
[0:32] <[Saint]> ...so on, and so forth.
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[0:33] <[Saint]> yes, we support both flac and ape.
[0:33] <flexus> i will give it a try, nice accident to hear about
[0:33] <[Saint]> and wav, and opus, and midi, and speex, and....well, everything that matters.
[0:33] <{-0-}> Hi! is the 3.5mm audio output on the Pi at headphone or line impedance please?
[0:33] <[Saint]> Which iPod model(s) do you have?
[0:34] <[Saint]> You can always come overt and pick our brains at #rockbox
[0:34] <flexus> only mini, the 3g or what it was is .. in use ..for other stuff...
[0:35] <[Saint]> Aha. Our installer supports both those models.
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[0:35] <[Saint]> see: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility
[0:35] <flexus> http://abload.de/image.php?img=img_0403eyuwl.jpg he wanted to be an mp3 player- but he was to wwwweak
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[0:36] <Sonny_Jim> .S3M and .XM supported?
[0:37] <flexus> the hdd died so i got the case
[0:37] <[Saint]> I believe .XM is
[0:38] <flexus> thats the subjective reason
[0:38] <flexus> hdd replacement didnt pay off anymore
[0:39] <[Saint]> flexus: If you want to "try before you buy", so to speak (not that we're selling anything - free as in freedom, and as in free beer), we do offer a prebuilt Windows simulator (everything works except FM, for reasons that should be obvious) that will run happily in WINE.
[0:39] <[Saint]> http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/
[0:39] <[Saint]> see: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UiSimulator
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[0:40] <[Saint]> This will allow you to test Rockbox on your PC to get the hang of the features and flow.
[0:40] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[0:40] <flexus> thx i will try too
[0:40] <[Saint]> Playback works, recording works, themes, everything behaves the way it would on the intended target device.
[0:41] <[Saint]> Some people use it as a desktop player. :)
[0:42] <flexus> will try it out these days, going to bed now.
[0:42] <flexus> will give you feedback if you want
[0:43] <[Saint]> We also offer an SDL application that runs on a variety of platforms, *nix/Windows/Mac and architectures ARM/MIPS/i386/x64/aarch64/etc.
[0:43] <RaMcHiP> Ohhh wow I remember rockbox for my ipod!
[0:43] <[Saint]> but if you want either the SDL application or the native *nix Rockbox UI simulator you'd need to compile from source.
[0:43] <niston> pretty complete project [Saint]
[0:44] <[Saint]> (which is trivial)
[0:44] <RaMcHiP> I though it was JUST for ipod
[0:44] <[Saint]> niston: We've been at it for a long time - I'm just a UI guy, though.
[0:44] <RaMcHiP> it was on my 5th gen
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[0:45] <[Saint]> RaMcHiP: no no - we run on a LOT of digital audio players, there's around 4 dozen supported target variants.
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[0:45] <flexus> have a nice evening, thx for sharin
[0:45] <[Saint]> (some of those ports are unified builds that support multiple variants)
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[0:45] <[Saint]> np. goodnight.
[0:45] <[Saint]> bah - too late.
[0:46] <[Saint]> Anyhow...we're still alive and kicking, and in active development.
[0:46] <RaMcHiP> [Saint], Nice man!
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[0:46] <[Saint]> Feel free to come bug us about hardware/software support at #rockbox or at http://forums.rockbox.org/
[0:47] <[Saint]> We also run on all major (and a lot of minor) platforms. Android, Maemo, Open Pandora, *nix, Windows, Mac.
[0:49] * darkavenger_afk is now known as darkavenger
[0:50] <[Saint]> I use Rockbox on a raspberrypi with the Wolfson Audio Card and PiTFT pretty frequently.
[0:51] <niston> [Saint] I think a friend of mine had Rockbox on his Harddisk player
[0:51] <niston> this is a few years ago though
[0:51] <[Saint]> You don't have to have a dedicated audio card to run Rockbox on a raspberrypi, of course, but it certainly does help because the audio output in the Model A/B/B2 pis is awful.
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[0:52] <[Saint]> Its only "largely tolerable" on the B+
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[0:52] <[Saint]> I need to wait out Wolfson releasing the B+ variant of their audio card.
[0:53] <[Saint]> Which they claim to be working on/in production.
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[1:37] <blackjid> hi guys.. is there a way to change the default behaviour of the gpio on the raspberry pi?
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[1:40] <Sonny_Jim> define "default behaviour"?
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[1:41] <[Saint]> And then "to what".
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[1:49] <niston> hmm
[1:49] <niston> alsa decided that my USB speakers are now device 1
[1:49] <niston> and can't be convinced otherwise
[1:51] <Sonny_Jim> check udev rules
[1:51] <niston> how would I do that
[1:52] <niston> and why has alsa suddenly made the decision?
[1:53] <Sonny_Jim> Because it hates you
[1:53] <niston> options snd-usb-audio index=0
[1:53] <niston> options snd_rpi_iqaudio index=1
[1:53] <niston> it ignores that
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[2:10] <shiftplusone> blackjid, yeah, check the pin configuration documentation.
[2:10] <shiftplusone> blackjid, dt-blob.bin
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[2:34] <willmore> Has anyone ever hooked an ePaper display up to an rPi? Maybe a ED060SC4?
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[2:39] <shiftplusone> willmore, you'll have more luck with google.
[2:40] <niston> isnt there an adafruit kit for epaper?
[2:41] <shiftplusone> I seem to recall that there is.
[2:41] <shiftplusone> anyway, 'night
[2:42] <niston> gnite
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[2:52] <willmore> shiftplusone, google was giving all kinds of crazy hits. Most people who use it tie it to some funky epaper supporting chip, so they skip all the protocol stuff.
[2:53] <willmore> I did find a library and data sheets for both the assembled module and the controller chip, itself. So, I at least have a start. Soldering some wires to the itty bitty 39 pin connector on it will be a fun start of the project.
[2:53] <willmore> Then the silly voltages it needs.... Found a schematic for a one chip power supply for it. I may need to hit up digikey or mouser for that. Should be fun.
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[2:54] <willmore> I may end up using an arduino to do it, but all my arduinos are 5V and this thing is 3.3v only. So, that makes life suck a bit. Oh, what I'd do for a cheap source of 3.3V USB enabled arduinos. :)
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[3:07] <phire> Teensy++ will do 3.3v
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[3:12] <willmore> phire, good point! I keep meaning to throw Paul a few bucks.
[3:12] <willmore> Plus, what could make an arduino more sexy? An ARM processor.
[3:13] <niston> boot time down to 10.32 seconds :D
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[3:15] <willmore> Yay?
[3:16] <niston> yesh
[3:21] <e^ipi> willmore: just wire your arduino up for i2c
[3:21] <e^ipi> it’s not hard
[3:22] <e^ipi> arduino pins 4&5 on to the i2c lines on the raspi, instant near-free ADC and 5V
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[3:23] <e^ipi> lemme see if i can find a sample ardunio scratch for it
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[3:24] <e^ipi> https://gist.github.com/sonnens/cbcd491229df5ffa199a
[3:24] <e^ipi> here, i used this with some moisture sensor
[3:25] <e^ipi> you can also save money on the arduino by just buying the ATxxx chip itself, they’re $3
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[3:33] <willmore> e^ipi, I'd probably use bitlash or firmata for standardization. Or something very specific to driving graphical displays.
[3:33] <willmore> -1 btw. :)
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[4:08] <niston> argh
[4:08] <niston> I can't get alsa to reliably use usb as default device
[4:08] <niston> sometimes it works, sometimes not
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[4:24] <willmore> Did you blacklist the rPi audio hardware?
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[4:29] <niston> ys
[4:30] <niston> and Im using /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf to assign the devices
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[7:05] <abnormal> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/your-usb-devices-are-not-safe-thanks-badusb/
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[7:27] <zap0> good <whatever your timezone is> everybody!
[7:28] <abnormal> 1:30 am
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[7:40] <zap0> it's mid arvo here
[7:40] <zap0> i suspect you must be somewhere a lot of people are, cause IRC in general appears to be a little vacant at the moment
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[7:41] <abnormal> yes it's a little silent in here... lol
[7:41] <Qatz> yeah, we're avoiding you.
[7:41] <abnormal> what is the command to get inxi to work in a pi?
[7:42] <abnormal> do I have to download an app?
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[7:47] <abnormal> that's much better
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[7:47] <abnormal> I hate underbars, they suck
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[7:52] <SgrA> Hi
[7:52] <SgrA> I'm on Arch Linux ARM, I'd like to get GPU_FFT. The blog says that I can run rpi-update on Debian or whatever, how do I get it on Arch?
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[7:58] <abnormal> SgrA, look at this link: http://www.raspberrypi.org/accelerating-fourier-transforms-using-the-gpu/
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[8:13] <abnormal> back n forth....
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[8:16] <abnormal> better...
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[9:23] <Plan_C> hi
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[10:13] <DJHenjin> anyone online at this ungodly hour?
[10:14] <nid0> sadly yes :(
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[10:15] <Plan_C> yes
[10:15] <DJHenjin> awesome, im looking for a touch of help with writing barebones applications for my pi
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[10:16] <Plan_C> i am a noob, sorry :)
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[10:16] <DJHenjin> all good, I'm building a prototype robotic arm with the pi as control interface
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[10:17] <ShorTie> Cool
[10:18] <DJHenjin> and i have plans for similar systems like using the pi as an on board infinite range remote unit (not unheard of i know). with a command and control application that allows much more control over things like patrols, duty schedules, inter-bot cooperation. etc...
[10:20] <tanuva> Why don't people differentiate 'noob' and 'newbie' anymore?
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[10:21] <Plan_C> cool
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[10:23] <DJHenjin> which means sadly none of my projects are single system capable (one single computer/pi). Since i want to have processing speed be of utmost importance and also due to the single-use nature of my projects, I want to have absolutely nothing between my applications and the hardware.
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[10:47] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, does this look right for a system that's only running irssi/screen?
[10:47] <Sonny_Jim> total used free shared buffers cached
[10:47] <Sonny_Jim> Mem: 447864 433140 14724 0 109328 145192
[10:47] <Sonny_Jim> -/+ buffers/cache: 178620 269244
[10:47] <Sonny_Jim> Swap: 0 0 0
[10:48] <Sonny_Jim> So I ignore the "used" bit, as buffers/cache use up memory
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[11:09] <ShorTie> Sonny_Jim playing in top ??
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[11:13] <DJHenjin> Sonny_Jim: i generally use htop so that i can get a colored representation of the mem seperation between cache/other
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[11:17] <ShorTie> i believe those #'s really do not mean a thing as linux will use up all the free memory trying to out think you (cache), but will gladly and freely give it up when it is really needed
[11:17] <DJHenjin> yep, thats correct ShorTie
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[11:18] <DJHenjin> i run linux 24/7
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[11:19] <ShorTie> reboot and quickly look at top and see what it says, then just let it sit for awhile without doing a thing and compare the 2
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[11:36] <Sonny_Jim> DJHenjin: Every time someone mentions top, you mention htop. Having pretty colours does not change the information being presented ;-)
[11:37] <Sonny_Jim> But I think I need to find one of those Linux memory explanations again, I always forget how to read the output of free
[11:37] <DJHenjin> Sonny_Jim: i mentions the colors aiding differentiation between in use memory and chached(evictable)
[11:37] <Myrtti_> htop is more helpful than top.
[11:38] <Sonny_Jim> Well, if I'd printed the output of top, then that might be a valid point
[11:38] <Sonny_Jim> This is the output of free
[11:38] <Sonny_Jim> ;-)
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[11:42] <DJHenjin> total - (free + buffers + cache) == unevictable, (buffers + cache == evictable)
[11:43] <DJHenjin> thats top line, second line in used is the answer to the first equation, in free is buffers+cache+used
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[11:47] <DJHenjin> the "-/+ buffers/cache" is simply saying, line above used - (buffers + cache), used + (buffers + cache)
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[11:48] <DJHenjin> or, what is used, what linux makes it look like
[11:49] <DJHenjin> better?
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[12:49] <Sonny_Jim> Is there a way to run SDL graphics on the Pi's framebuffer rather than under X?
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[12:56] <evil_dan2wik> Sonny_Jim, probably.
[12:56] <RaMcHiP> Good morning everyone. I am trying to compile XBMC with joystick support and have gotten through almost all my compile errors except for "Warning: swp{b} use is deprecated for ARMv6 and ARMv7
[12:56] <RaMcHiP> " anyone have an idea how to fix this?
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[12:57] <evil_dan2wik> RaMcHiP, that is just a warning
[12:57] <evil_dan2wik> it should compile regardless
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[12:57] <RaMcHiP> SWEEET, thanks!
[12:57] <evil_dan2wik> but, you would need to find an alternative to swp{b}
[12:57] <evil_dan2wik> if you wanted to remove that error.
[12:58] <evil_dan2wik> warning*
[12:58] * Sonny_Jim prods gordonDrogon
[12:58] <RaMcHiP> As long as it works at this rate
[12:58] <RaMcHiP> been working on getting my PS3 controller to work in XBMC for weeks now..
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[12:59] <RaMcHiP> Trying to make an all in one system with RetroPie/XBMC/OwnCLoud
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[13:00] <RaMcHiP> Recompiling MAME was a success, I can now use my sixaxis controller with it. XBMC is being a (*&$# LOL
[13:00] <Sonny_Jim> Hah
[13:01] <Sonny_Jim> doing the typo "return HULL;" shouldn't make me laugh so much
[13:01] <RaMcHiP> Ya it should, that means that youve been up for 36 hours and anything is funny now.. Which means your doing your job right ;)
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[13:02] <DJHenjin> 36 is just a start for me
[13:03] <RaMcHiP> ;)
[13:04] <RaMcHiP> I am getting to old
[13:04] <RaMcHiP> I used to run 72 hour stints can barely do 36 now :)
[13:05] <DJHenjin> im testing a couple things in python on my pi before i have to figure out barebones programming for pi to finish the project
[13:05] <DJHenjin> aka procrastinating
[13:06] <RaMcHiP> Great!!!! Now the one damn feature I want to compile I am now getting this. http://pastebin.com/GyHEAnq5
[13:06] <RaMcHiP> I am doing this JUST for the joystick support...
[13:07] <Sonny_Jim> -lSDL
[13:08] <RaMcHiP> make -lSDL?
[13:08] <Sonny_Jim> Looks to me like the linker doesn't see the SDL libs
[13:08] <Sonny_Jim> nope
[13:08] <RaMcHiP> apt-get install sdl?
[13:08] <Sonny_Jim> It'll be part of the cflags
[13:08] <Sonny_Jim> It would be a different message if it wasn't installed
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[13:10] <RaMcHiP> $
[13:10] <RaMcHiP> CFLAGS= -fPIC -DPIC -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DNDEBUG=1 -O2 -I/opt/vc/include/interface/vmcs_host/linux/
[13:10] <RaMcHiP> I had to add the -I/opt/ portion
[13:10] <Sonny_Jim> Err, I meant LDFLAGS
[13:10] <Sonny_Jim> Nope sorry
[13:10] <RaMcHiP> Ahhhh nothing in LD Flags
[13:10] <Sonny_Jim> try LDLIBS
[13:11] <Sonny_Jim> actually, doesn't really matter
[13:11] <RaMcHiP> in libs I see a -ldl
[13:11] <RaMcHiP> should I do the -lSDL?
[13:11] <Sonny_Jim> that's not -lSDL is it ;-)
[13:11] <RaMcHiP> ;)
[13:11] <RaMcHiP> replace or just add?
[13:11] <Sonny_Jim> No, just add
[13:11] <RaMcHiP> TY sir!
[13:12] <RaMcHiP> round 4736
[13:12] <DJHenjin> Sonny_Jim: could you help me out a touch with doing barebones dev for the pi.
[13:12] <Sonny_Jim> I could try
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[13:12] <RaMcHiP> Thanks to the pi and people like Sonny_Jim, I am actually getting linux down really well
[13:13] <RaMcHiP> LD xbmc.bin
[13:13] <RaMcHiP> !!!! Thats final stretch right?
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[13:15] <DJHenjin> well first of all, since doing barebones means cross compiling typically if using a different machine, however developing on the target itself generally means that the compilation is a direct native compile... so that means for simplicity sake i should just ssh into my pi and do my code/compile batcheson there
[13:16] <RaMcHiP> TY TY TY Sonny_Jim!! It looks like its working with no errors now!
[13:17] <RaMcHiP> Say this compiles, there is like 20 other people that are looking for what I am doing here. How would I share this build with them so they do not have to recompile?
[13:18] <Sonny_Jim> DJHenjin: What are you trying to do that requires barebones programming?
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[13:19] <DJHenjin> barebones programming itself
[13:19] <Sonny_Jim> In what language?
[13:19] <DJHenjin> c++
[13:20] <Sonny_Jim> RaMcHiP: I would just post the instructions on how you got it to build rather than distributing a binary. -ldl means it was dynamically linked, to distribute a single binary you need to do static linking
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[13:22] <RaMcHiP> KK I will make a tutorial.. Thanks for everything! One question, when I see an error with that syntax I can generally just add -l and the prefix to the reference?
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[13:24] <Sonny_Jim> Well, you need to understand why the error happens
[13:25] <Sonny_Jim> The linker is pulling in different bits of code together to build the binary, sometimes those bits of code live in libraries
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[13:25] <Sonny_Jim> I recognised the functions names came from the SDL library,
[13:25] <Sonny_Jim> So obviously the linker needed to know to use the SDL library when building the binary
[13:26] <Sonny_Jim> you do that by adding -l$LIBRARYNAME to LDFLAGS/LDLIBS
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[13:26] <RaMcHiP> perfect, thanks for your time and help! People like you help the community learn and I truly appreciate it!
[13:27] <RaMcHiP> I plan on getting pretty deep into this. I want to learn linux inside and out. The Pi makes it fun :)
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[13:28] <DJHenjin> RaMcHiP: I run linux every day. since i switched i love it and would not use any other OS
[13:28] <RaMcHiP> I will still use windows but now I want to get a touch screen build on my transformer book. Thats my next undertaking :)
[13:29] <RaMcHiP> Any good distros of linux that have touch screen support built in?
[13:29] <Sonny_Jim> All of them?
[13:29] <RaMcHiP> ...
[13:29] <RaMcHiP> LOL
[13:29] <Sonny_Jim> It's just a mouse
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[13:29] <RaMcHiP> Touche
[13:29] <RaMcHiP> I should say UI is more designed for a touch screen
[13:30] <Sonny_Jim> Probably want to look at Ubuntu
[13:30] <evil_dan2wik> android?
[13:30] <RaMcHiP> KK
[13:30] <RaMcHiP> No
[13:30] <Sonny_Jim> I seem to remember that was trying to be more touch screen orientated
[13:30] <RaMcHiP> I have a transformer pad
[13:30] <evil_dan2wik> put android
[13:30] <RaMcHiP> I have the android version as well
[13:30] <Sonny_Jim> Android
[13:30] <evil_dan2wik> turn your android into debian
[13:30] <RaMcHiP> I cant do android on the pad only on the prime
[13:30] <RaMcHiP> I did that with my prime.
[13:31] <DJHenjin> ubuntu 14.04 tastes touchy to me
[13:31] <RaMcHiP> I am probably going to partition my SSD for linux after I am done with all of this.
[13:31] <RaMcHiP> I need linux at my fingertips at all times :)
[13:32] <DJHenjin> linux can trash an SSD if incorrect settings are used
[13:33] <RaMcHiP> Thanks for the heads up, I will research necessary precautions before attempting this undertaking.
[13:34] <RaMcHiP> I know I want to avoid swap files on solid state anything. Is there anything else?
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[13:35] <DJHenjin> ext4 with mount options discard and norelatime, but there may be a couple more i cannot remember
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[13:38] <RaMcHiP> I cant wait to see this thing compile, I am going to do the happy dance squared LOL
[13:43] <DJHenjin> Sonny_Jim: ive never done any barebones programming before, but i have done quite extensive c/c++ programming before,
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[13:47] <Sonny_Jim> It's hard
[13:47] <Sonny_Jim> You forget how nice it is to have an OS to take care of the dirty work for you
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[13:47] <DJHenjin> sorry i lied, i did do barebones once before, .but it was a very small project and i soon forgot how..
[13:47] <Sonny_Jim> Do you mean "bare metal"?
[13:48] <DJHenjin> Sonny_Jim: ill put in the hard work
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[13:48] <DJHenjin> yeah probably
[13:48] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.valvers.com/embedded-linux/raspberry-pi/step01-bare-metal-programming-in-cpt1
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[13:48] <Sonny_Jim> TBH I wouldn't bother, your time would be better spent looking at the linux kernel/device drivers
[13:48] <Sonny_Jim> But it's your time
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[13:49] <DJHenjin> Sonny_Jim: tbh i dont want/need linux's kernel taking up even the tiniest iota of cpu time for this project
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[13:49] <Sonny_Jim> So what do you want to do?
[13:49] <DJHenjin> many many things
[13:50] <Sonny_Jim> ....
[13:50] <Sonny_Jim> If you give me vague replies, I can't really help
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[13:51] <DJHenjin> i need to be able to talk to all the hardware in the pi, and be as close as possible to the pi itself as i can get
[13:52] <DJHenjin> ill need networking and GPIO, and later on i will need USB but thats not until another project
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[13:53] <Sonny_Jim> Right
[13:54] <Sonny_Jim> Don't want to sound negative, but it's a HUGE undertaking to do barebones TCP/IP networking, let alone USB
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[13:54] <Sonny_Jim> There is a very solid reason why Linux runs on most embedded network devices
[13:54] <DJHenjin> are there not libraries that can be linked in that do most of the heavy lifting? or is it all GPIO
[13:55] <Sonny_Jim> If you are doing bare metal, there are no libraries
[13:56] <DJHenjin> are there not headers/source files that can be compiled alongside ones application, and thereby into the resulting binary that make life easier,......
[13:58] <Sonny_Jim> If you want to 'touch' hardware, my advice would be to start writing Linux kernel device drivers and go from there
[13:58] <Sonny_Jim> Have a read of this forum as well:
[13:58] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=72
[13:59] <didlix> DJHenjin: you're not really saying why you want any of this
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[13:59] <didlix> DJHenjin: wouldn't you be better off getting something more powerful than a pi, if Linux takes up too much on one?
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[13:59] <didlix> DJHenjin: but time/reward ratio is up to you
[13:59] <didlix> I broke rule 0, don't get involved
[13:59] <DJHenjin> didlix: To Learn not a "good enough " reason, or do you want my full name and social insurance number too?
[13:59] * didlix backs away
[14:00] <didlix> DJHenjin: woah
[14:00] <didlix> DJHenjin: actually, just your bank card number and pin
[14:00] <DJHenjin> 14332..... woah woah,... i see what you did there
[14:00] <didlix> 12:51 <DJHenjin> i need to be able to talk to all the hardware in the pi, and be as close as possible to the pi itself as i can get
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[14:01] <didlix> You're not saying why, so it's a really vague answer, so people can't really help you
[14:01] <DJHenjin> im serious, is a person not allowed to simply want to learn HOW. without being asked WHY
[14:01] <didlix> And you said you "need", which implied a reason beyond just learning
[14:01] <Sonny_Jim> It's fine to want to learn something for the sake of learning
[14:01] <didlix> DJHenjin: you didn't really say that it was for the sake of learning
[14:01] <Sonny_Jim> Our point is that you have vastly underestimated the amount of time and effort it will take to do this
[14:01] <DJHenjin> learning is a reason just as much as any other reason
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[14:02] <didlix> DJHenjin: until you got your back up and me asking why
[14:02] <Sonny_Jim> If you want to learn something to have these skills useful further on down the line, then a very good thing to learn would be device drivers
[14:02] <DJHenjin> no i havent't, i am already aware of the months it probably will take
[14:02] <Sonny_Jim> Try years
[14:02] <didlix> DJHenjin: if the reward for the time is worth it to you, then carry on. I was just trying to offer a time efficient alternative if it was for some other purpose
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[14:02] <RaMcHiP> Not to sound stupid but what is bare metal programming when compared to programming?
[14:03] <DJHenjin> no OS
[14:03] <didlix> But it's not for another purpose, so I have nothing to say
[14:03] <DJHenjin> no fancy schmancy interpreters or python /scratch to help
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[14:04] <shana> "Sonny_Jim: tbh i dont want/need linux's kernel taking up even the tiniest iota of cpu time for this project" <- that implies there's a specific project behind your need to go bare metal (beyond just willingness to learn)
[14:04] <Sonny_Jim> DJHenjin: I'm begining to doubt that you have much experience in programming, otherwise you would understand what we are trying to telly ou
[14:04] <pwillard> I need some advice on fixing a boot failure. (just had a major storm blow through which caused all sorts of power issues) now My pi boots up partway and hangs while starting services. any ideas where to start?
[14:04] <RaMcHiP> Ahhh so the most efficient form of programming? No fluff?
[14:04] <shana> which is why people asked why
[14:04] <didlix> Just leave them to it, peeps. :)
[14:04] <DJHenjin> shana: Having a project does not imply that its the ONLY reason
[14:05] <DJHenjin> nor does it imply it IS the reason either
[14:05] <Sonny_Jim> RaMcHiP: bare metal is for sado-masochists only. It makes sense when you are dealing with something simple like a microcontroller you might find in a toaster. It doesn't really make much sense to do it on something as complicated as a Pi
[14:05] <tanuva> pwillard: I have no specific knowledge, just a guess: did you already check the filesystem in another computer? Tends to fail on power outages.
[14:05] <didlix> DJHenjin: shana's point is, you've got your back up when you were posting some very specific requirements. When we asked why you have those requirements you got your back up and just wanting to learn
[14:05] <shana> DJHenjin: you can't expect people to not ask why if you say you have a specific need for a project. that implies a why question in order to figure out if there's another way to do it. taking offense at the question is odd
[14:05] <didlix> DJHenjin: so excuse us for showing an interest, replying and trying to be of help
[14:05] <didlix> DJHenjin: I promise I won't do it again
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[14:05] <pwillard> yeah, I carried the sd card to different linux pc and did an e2fsck on it... only a few issues found and fixed.
[14:06] <Sonny_Jim> RaMcHiP: CPU is 'cheap' nowadays, so it's better to "stand on the shoulders of giants" so-to-speak and have an OS
[14:06] <pwillard> that exhausts my knowledge... (lol)
[14:06] <Sonny_Jim> There's no need to try and eek out every last cycle from a CPU anymore
[14:06] <RaMcHiP> Gotcha
[14:06] <DJHenjin> im not taking offense.. .im trying to find out why people think its neccesary to know WHY someone else asks to learn some specific skill
[14:06] <RaMcHiP> So its like making an application specific operating system
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[14:06] <Sonny_Jim> Hell, even in the BBC B/C64 days you'd still rely on there being an OS
[14:07] <tanuva> pwillard: yeah, mine too. :) Then I'd try a clean OS on a second sd card (or back the current one up while testing) and see if a fresh one runs to rule out the hardware
[14:07] <RaMcHiP> DJHenjin, I am always interested in why...
[14:07] <RaMcHiP> You may learn something if you ask why.
[14:07] <pwillard> Sonny_Jim, if you don't mind OS being BASIC interpreter...
[14:07] <Sonny_Jim> pwillard: Not true in the BBC B case
[14:07] <shana> DJHenjin: because asking why starts a conversation on needs and motivations which helps the asker and the askee define the optimal path for the answer
[14:07] <Sonny_Jim> You could drop to ASM in the middle of a BASIC program. Same with the Archimedes
[14:07] <niston> the os of the C64 was actually in the KERNAL rom.
[14:07] <niston> BASIC was another thing.
[14:07] <DJHenjin> part of MY reason why is because i plan to eventually write my own OS,... cant really do that witout bare metal can a person?
[14:07] <shana> DJHenjin: amazingly enough, asking questions and receiving answers is a dialogue, not a monologue
[14:08] <pwillard> True, I come from the Tandy Color Computer era (MC6809)... that was Bare Metal programming if you wanted it.
[14:08] <Sonny_Jim> DJHenjin: You can study and extend Linux, which will save you years of learning
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[14:08] * RaMcHiP does the happy dance squared!!!
[14:08] <RaMcHiP> -----------------------
[14:08] <RaMcHiP> XBMC built successfully
[14:08] <RaMcHiP> -----------------------
[14:08] <niston> heh
[14:08] <shana> DJHenjin: sure you can. windows built its networking stack off of bsd. you don't have to reinvent every wheel to build an OS
[14:08] <DJHenjin> Sonny_Jim: i have already made it clear, i dont wnat to do that
[14:09] <RaMcHiP> Ill be back!
[14:09] <Sonny_Jim> DJHenjin: Then read the links I posted and go from there
[14:09] <Sonny_Jim> You've got your answer
[14:09] <niston> windows NT is built off of VMS :>
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[14:10] <t_dot_zilla> hi
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[14:11] <Davespice> ah... so what is going on with Arch folks?
[14:12] <RaMcHiP> wish me luck
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[14:14] <RaMcHiP> NOOOOOOOOO!!!! ERROR: Unable to create GUI. Exiting
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[14:16] <RaMcHiP> XBMC needs a hardware accelerated OpenGL rendering. Install an appropriate graphics driver...
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[14:17] <RaMcHiP> XBMC needs hardware accelerated OpenGL rendering. Install an appropriate graphics driver...
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[14:17] <Sonny_Jim> Well, Pi doesn't have OpenGL, it has OpenGLES which is different and not compatible
[14:18] <RaMcHiP> :(
[14:18] <RaMcHiP> Hmmmmmm
[14:18] <RaMcHiP> I wonder if I install the xbmc that did work if I can edit that source
[14:19] <RaMcHiP> if it includes source..
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[14:24] <Skutov> Anyone here able to offer assisstance with hooking an xbee directly to a pi?
[14:24] <pwillard> thanks tanuva... does not seem to be hardware... other sd's boot fine.
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[14:26] <Sonny_Jim> RaMcHiP: Is it not possible to use another piece of software to translate the joystick inputs into keypresses?
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[14:27] <Sonny_Jim> Skutov: Pretty sure multiple people have done this already
[14:27] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.cooking-hacks.com/documentation/tutorials/raspberry-pi-xbee
[14:27] <RaMcHiP> Yes it is but I want to use the joystick package as the rest of my build use it. If I use software to translate then I would be pressing keys in my other menus :(
[14:27] <Sonny_Jim> RaMcHiP: ah
[14:28] <Sonny_Jim> Did you --enable-sdl during configuration?
[14:28] <RaMcHiP> lemme check
[14:28] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=392493#p392493
[14:28] <RaMcHiP> disabled
[14:28] <RaMcHiP> retry?
[14:28] <tanuva> pwillard: well. at least something. I remember one could make the kernel more verbose using the kernel cmdline on boot, but I don't know if/how that can be used with the Pi bootloader
[14:28] <Sonny_Jim> Yup
[14:28] <RaMcHiP> with it enabled
[14:28] <RaMcHiP> KK
[14:28] <Sonny_Jim> I would use those configure options
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[14:33] <t_dot_zilla> I scrapped a toshiba laptop. it has a cool keyboard. i am wondering if I can connect it to my pi using GPIO
[14:33] <RaMcHiP> Sonny_Jim, Thanks again! Round 4364 :)
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[14:34] <SpeedEvil> t_dot_zilla: In general - yes
[14:34] <SpeedEvil> keyboards are almost invariably just raw matrixes.
[14:34] <t_dot_zilla> how could I figure out hwo to connect it
[14:35] <SpeedEvil> Does it have ~25 or so wires?
[14:35] <t_dot_zilla> yes
[14:35] <SpeedEvil> 20
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[14:35] <SpeedEvil> Simply press a key, then take an ohmeter, and note which pair of contacts are connected.
[14:35] <SpeedEvil> Repeat.
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[14:36] <t_dot_zilla> how does that tell me how to connect to gpio
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[14:36] <pwillard> Hmm... maybe I just start over... My "data" and home folder are all good.
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[14:38] <SpeedEvil> t_dot_zilla: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_matrix_circuit
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> In short - your keyboard will have (for example) 11 rows of 8 keys. (electrically)
[14:39] <SpeedEvil> you have pull-ups on 8 GPIOs.
[14:39] <pwillard> Probably better to dedicate a MCU to scanning the Matrix for you... like an MSP430 say...
[14:39] <SpeedEvil> now, you pull down one and only one of the 11 column row inputs.
[14:39] <SpeedEvil> When a key is pressed, it connects the relevant row to a column.
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[14:42] <SpeedEvil> (for example)
[14:42] <SpeedEvil> gah
[14:42] <SpeedEvil> t_dot_zilla: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_matrix_circuit
[14:42] <SpeedEvil> In short - your keyboard will have (for example) 11 rows of 8 keys. (electrically)
[14:42] <SpeedEvil> you have pull-ups on 8 GPIOs.
[14:42] <SpeedEvil> now, you pull down one and only one of the 11 column row inputs.
[14:42] <SpeedEvil> When a key is pressed, it connects the relevant row to a column.
[14:42] <SpeedEvil> So - when you activate row 3, and see column 4 go high, you know it's an 'A'
[14:44] <t_dot_zilla> okay thanks... i think haha
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[14:45] <agumonkey> hello fellas
[14:46] <agumonkey> I'm looking for the cheapest singleboard with ethernet that could serve as dns / pxe server.
[14:46] <agumonkey> Any tips ?
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[14:53] <SpeedEvil> The pi is pretty close
[14:54] <SpeedEvil> At most you're going to find something several dollars cheaper
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[14:58] -mist- [Global Notice] Hi all, I know a fair few of you have requested an update on the recent server compromise. For those interested in a brief update you can head over to http://bit.ly/1z78rgQ to read a few words penned by the very generous NCC Group, who have been invaluable in helping us investigate the issue. Thank you!
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[15:03] -mist- [Global Notice] Clearly the previously mentioned URL is not equipped to handle thousands of freenoders hitting it at once. If you're interested, try again later.
[15:06] <GIANT_CRAB> SpeedEvil: he already left lol
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[15:25] <Sonny_Jim> ooh switch matrixes
[15:25] <Sonny_Jim> have to deal with them on pinball tables
[15:25] <Sonny_Jim> pretty easy once you get your head round ir
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[15:32] <Skutov> So If I hook an xbee up to an arduino through a logic level converter it should just work, right?
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[15:32] <Skutov> I mean a pi.
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[15:39] <knob> Good morning everyone =)
[15:40] <iceCalt> hi
[15:41] <iceCalt> knob, your nick reminds me of someone from a game who always pronounced "noob" as knob. Pronouncing k very strong
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[15:43] <knob> iceCalt, =)
[15:43] <iceCalt> knob, was a fun match. that guy was the only one in our team who wasn't in our premade. :D
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[15:48] <knob> Question: Can I feed the 3.3v from the rPi straight to one of the inputs?
[15:48] <knob> Or should I use a resistor first?
[15:48] <knob> I am not sure what is the max current one of the inputs will accept
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[15:48] <ZeeWolf> hi
[15:49] <iceCalt> knob, I don't know ):
[15:49] <iceCalt> ZeeWolf, hi
[15:50] <ZeeWolf> I have a problem, I've installed vncserver, everything works flawlessly until today, when I log in I see only gray bg
[15:50] <ZeeWolf> ;(
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[15:56] <ZeeWolf> can anyone help ? :)
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[15:58] <iceCalt> ZeeWolf, sorry. I am a novice.
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[16:04] <RaMcHiP> Sonny_Jim, you still around?
[16:06] <RaMcHiP> I am now getting /usr/bin/ld: xbmc/windowing/windowing.a(WinEventsSDL.o): undefined reference to symbol 'XkbGetKeyboard'
[16:06] <RaMcHiP> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libX11.so.6: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[16:06] <RaMcHiP> So I should add -lx correct? Since the XbkGetKeyBoard is part of x?
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[16:12] <Skutov> Right, so I have a shield I made with 5V and 3v3 regulators and a breakout board for an xbee, I've hooked it up to the pis onboard uart and I'm trying to talk to it using screen but it's not responding in any way. Could anyone offer any ideas as to why it might not be working?
[16:12] <pwillard> swap transmit/receive
[16:12] <Skutov> Already tried.
[16:13] <Skutov> And I can get echo by hooking them directly together on the breakout board.
[16:13] <pwillard> are you controlling reset on the xbee?
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[16:14] <Skutov> No...
[16:14] <pwillard> pull xbee reset to GND briefly
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[16:15] <Skutov> Let me just swap the rx/tx back round.
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[16:18] <RaMcHiP> Sonny_Jim, you taught me well.. Added -lX11 and worked!
[16:19] <Skutov> pwillard, Nope, nothing.
[16:19] <pwillard> at any point did you accidently feed the xbee 5V?
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[16:19] <StrawMachie> Hello!
[16:20] <Skutov> Shouldn't have done. I build the shield and tested it all before even plugging them in.
[16:20] <StrawMachie> I am facing with a problem about installing OS.
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[16:20] <Skutov> I've got 2, one of them might have had 5v for a minute or so because of my level converter that wasn't a level converter.
[16:20] <Skutov> StrawMachie, What's the problem?
[16:21] <StrawMachie> Skutov: I have raspberry pi model B+ and I have noob sd card...
[16:21] <StrawMachie> How do I install OS into the SD Card?
[16:21] <StrawMachie> 8GB NOOBS Edition.
[16:21] <Skutov> StrawMachie, Are you on windows?
[16:21] <StrawMachie> Yes!
[16:21] <iceCalt> There's a manual on their website
[16:22] <[Saint]> http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/
[16:22] <StrawMachie> I can't find it, and I can't connect the SD CARD or adapter to PC
[16:22] <iceCalt> http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/
[16:22] <Skutov> Dang, beat me to it.
[16:22] <iceCalt> saint, you beat me
[16:22] <iceCalt> lul
[16:22] <[Saint]> heh
[16:22] <StrawMachie> XD
[16:22] <iceCalt> this one second
[16:22] <StrawMachie> Sorry about tht
[16:22] <StrawMachie> haha
[16:22] <StrawMachie> SD CARD TO USB
[16:22] <iceCalt> StrawMachie, do you have a sd card reader?
[16:22] <StrawMachie> What is this
[16:22] <iceCalt> or an internal slot on your computer?
[16:22] <StrawMachie> I don't think so.. :(
[16:22] <iceCalt> A device you put your sd card into it and connect the device with your computer
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[16:23] <RaMcHiP> PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authorisation protocol attemptedERROR: Unable to create GUI. Exiting
[16:23] <RaMcHiP> GRRRRRR
[16:23] <StrawMachie> I connect the sd card to raspberry and connect raspberry to pc with usb..
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[16:23] <StrawMachie> Nothing..
[16:23] <iceCalt> StrawMachie, It won't work like that
[16:23] <[Saint]> It doesn't have USB host mode.
[16:23] <[Saint]> So, that's expected.
[16:23] <iceCalt> Your rpi needs to run an operatin system at first
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[16:23] <[Saint]> well...no.
[16:24] <[Saint]> that sounds contradictory.
[16:24] <[Saint]> wether it runs an OS or not...it still won't ever do USB host mode.
[16:24] <Skutov> The microusb port on the pi is for power only.
[16:24] <StrawMachie> Can I connect the sd card to my android and install the os over there?
[16:24] <iceCalt> saint, i got my raspi to get its internet thru a laptop
[16:24] <iceCalt> but i had some os on it
[16:25] <StrawMachie> Peace, peace in the world ^_^
[16:25] <[Saint]> iceCalt: that's nice...but, that's something entirely different.
[16:25] <[Saint]> StrawMachie: yes, you can.
[16:25] <iceCalt> saint, yes. but it still requires a running os on the rpi
[16:25] <StrawMachie> I download pdf manual
[16:25] <StrawMachie> "1. Insert an SD card that is 4GB or greater in size into your computer " How?
[16:25] <StrawMachie> lol
[16:25] <[Saint]> So do lots of other things that aren't relevant to this discussion, but I'm not listing them...
[16:26] <iceCalt> StrawMachie, either your computer got a sd card slot or you use a sd card reader
[16:26] <StrawMachie> I don't have sd card reader.
[16:27] <[Saint]> I answered your question earlier...
[16:27] <iceCalt> Do you have an electronic store nearby?
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[16:27] <[Saint]> Yes, you can use your phone.
[16:27] <StrawMachie> lol no
[16:27] <StrawMachie> How do I use my phone?
[16:27] <StrawMachie> I mean
[16:27] <StrawMachie> let me connect the sd to my phone
[16:27] <iceCalt> StrawMachie, is it a micro sd card?
[16:27] <StrawMachie> I think so
[16:27] <StrawMachie> Yeah
[16:28] <iceCalt> If your android device got a sd card slot, then you can insert it
[16:28] <StrawMachie> And after that which manual do I read?
[16:28] <iceCalt> I never installed noobs on a sd card via android
[16:28] <StrawMachie> So I shouldn't do that?
[16:28] <iceCalt> I dont know. Never did it this way
[16:28] <[Saint]> He said it was a B+...you'd bloody well hope its microSD
[16:28] <StrawMachie> Creative way?
[16:28] <iceCalt> saint, never had a b+ so far
[16:28] <[Saint]> Well, its only got a microSd socket, so, yeah.
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[16:29] <StrawMachie> ok
[16:30] <iceCalt> saint, i had a look on its specs when it got released. that was some months ago afaik
[16:30] <StrawMachie> It's loading wow
[16:30] <[Saint]> iceCalt: well, the specs were the same then as they are now. lol. ;)
[16:30] <iceCalt> Apparantly I didn't pay attention about the sd card slot D:
[16:31] <StrawMachie> SD CARD not display
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[16:32] <StrawMachie> I don't think it's work
[16:32] <iceCalt> StrawMachie, settings -> device -> storage
[16:32] <[Saint]> I don't understand why it is you think you need to do anything with the sdcard to begin with.
[16:32] <iceCalt> format sd card
[16:33] <StrawMachie> WTF
[16:33] <[Saint]> The reason it came with NOOBS is so you _don't_ have to do any of this.
[16:33] <iceCalt> oh
[16:33] <iceCalt> I thought he downloaded noobs on his computer?
[16:33] <StrawMachie> wait
[16:33] <StrawMachie> Something weird
[16:33] <StrawMachie> I only have one disk display in computer
[16:33] <iceCalt> If it is pre-installed on his sd card, then it should run from his rpi
[16:34] <StrawMachie> lol
[16:34] <StrawMachie> I think some apps installed on my sd card .__.
[16:34] <StrawMachie> WTF?
[16:34] <StrawMachie> Sorry I don't know what is happen
[16:34] <iceCalt> saint, he asked how to install noobs onto the sd card
[16:34] <StrawMachie> lol
[16:34] <StrawMachie> Yes.
[16:34] <StrawMachie> Ok can I speak?
[16:34] <[Saint]> iceCalt: no, he didn't.
[16:35] <[Saint]> please read the logs
[16:35] <iceCalt> It says he has it on the sd card. Okay. Also how to install it on the sd card
[16:35] <StrawMachie> I have instructions in my device..
[16:35] <StrawMachie> But somehow I have folder name Android
[16:35] <iceCalt> You need to simply insert it into your rpi and turn it on. Best to have it attached on a monitor
[16:36] <StrawMachie> I did that
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[16:36] <[Saint]> that's because you plugged it into your phone...for...some reason...and boot cycled Android.
[16:36] <[Saint]> Android then shat a bunch of folders onto it.
[16:36] <[Saint]> Have fun cleaning that up lol.
[16:36] <StrawMachie> So what I nee to do?
[16:36] <StrawMachie> :(
[16:37] <[Saint]> In theory none of those folders will harm the functionality of the install at all.
[16:37] <Davespice> ladies and gents, has anyone here used an IPAC or IPAC2 on a Pi?
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[16:37] <niston> what's an IPAC?
[16:38] <StrawMachie> Ok
[16:38] <StrawMachie> Wait I am uploading a picture
[16:38] <iceCalt> StrawMachie, so you have noobs already on your sd card, right?
[16:38] <[Saint]> There's no need to.
[16:39] <StrawMachie> Got folder name OS size 1.3GB
[16:39] <StrawMachie> http://i.imgur.com/tL8pc0K.png
[16:39] <[Saint]> That's fine.
[16:39] <[Saint]> its supposed to be there.
[16:39] <PovAddict> just boot the thing in the rpi already :P
[16:40] <PovAddict> connect monitor and USB keyboard, insert SD card, connect microUSB power, done
[16:40] <PovAddict> and why did you put your SD card in your phone? lol
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[16:41] <[Saint]> Because someone told him he needed an sd reader...for...some reason.
[16:41] <Davespice> niston: its a keyboard encoder, often used in arcade machine conversions
[16:42] <StrawMachie> Wait
[16:42] <[Saint]> I went and got a coffee, and when I came back, all sorts of hilarity transpired.
[16:42] <StrawMachie> What I need to do?
[16:42] <StrawMachie> [Saint] lol wait
[16:42] <PovAddict> I already said it
[16:42] <StrawMachie> So I got the OS?
[16:43] <iceCalt> I read about the line "want to install noobs on sd card" and assumed he needs assistance in getting the os onto his card
[16:43] <PovAddict> your SD card came with noobs preinstalled
[16:43] <[Saint]> Man. I can't take this. Its too painful.
[16:43] <StrawMachie> Anyone can help me?
[16:43] <iceCalt> saint, so is the seat I sit on during this lecture
[16:43] <PovAddict> are you even reading my messages? lol
[16:43] <StrawMachie> Sorry, I read that.
[16:43] <PovAddict> you don't have to do anything with your SD card, since it came preinstalled
[16:43] <StrawMachie> 17:39] <PovAddict> just boot the thing in the rpi already :P [17:39] <PovAddict> connect monitor and USB keyboard, insert SD card, connect microUSB power, done [17:40] <PovAddict> and why did you put your SD card in your phone? lol
[16:43] <StrawMachie> Here :)
[16:44] <StrawMachie> People told me to format...
[16:44] <StrawMachie> I connect the SD card in my phone cause ...
[16:44] <Sonny_Jim> RaMcHiP: hows it going?
[16:44] <StrawMachie> 'cause people told me to download OS
[16:44] <PovAddict> yes because it wasn't clear that your card already had noobs
[16:44] <StrawMachie> Then why I have instructions?
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[16:44] <StrawMachie> INSTRUCTIONS-README - file
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[16:45] <StrawMachie> 1. Insert an SD card that is 4GB or greater in size into your computer. 2. Format the SD card using the platform-specific instructions below:
[16:45] <PovAddict> that's so that if you download noobs you know how to put it in the SD card - but there's no need to, it's already in the SD card :)
[16:45] <iceCalt> StrawMachie, these instructions are for putting noobs onto an empty sd card.
[16:45] <StrawMachie> I am going to check it!
[16:45] <StrawMachie> Thanks
[16:45] <StrawMachie> Thanks iceCalt, PovAddict, [Saint] and who all helped me.
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[16:48] <StrawMachie> I don't have microUSB Power
[16:48] <RaMcHiP> Feeling defeated :)
[16:48] <StrawMachie> But.. hmm brb
[16:48] <PovAddict> phone charger?
[16:49] <RaMcHiP> Going to reflash an image to my SD card and start from the XBMC beginning again :)
[16:49] <RaMcHiP> Going to see if I can recompile the package that I have installed with --enable-joystick
[16:50] <iceCalt> PovAddict, needs at least a certain amount of voltage
[16:50] <PovAddict> my 700mA phone charger worked just fine, until I tried a USB Wi-Fi adapter
[16:51] <PovAddict> :)
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[16:53] <iceCalt> PovAddict, well. If you plug in other devices then it won't survive with 700mA
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[17:19] <StrawMachie> I connect my raspberry pi to HDMI and I can't see anything
[17:19] <StrawMachie> Say no signal
[17:19] <StrawMachie> Any help?
[17:19] <PovAddict> is the PWR LED turned on?
[17:19] <StrawMachie> I am not sure
[17:20] <StrawMachie> They are both turned on
[17:20] <StrawMachie> The green and red
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[17:20] <PovAddict> PWR and ACT?
[17:20] <StrawMachie> What does both mean?
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[17:20] <StrawMachie> I connect usb to raspberry
[17:20] <PovAddict> try pressing 2 on your keyboard, it switches to HDMI safe mode in NOOBS
[17:21] <StrawMachie> Ok I will connect keyborad
[17:21] <iceCalt> The best part in lectures is when too many people use too much bandwidth
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[17:24] <niston> StrawMachine: connected the HDMI *before* power up?
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[17:24] <niston> StrawMachie sry
[17:25] <StrawMachie> What?
[17:25] <StrawMachie> I am not sure
[17:26] <StrawMachie> to connect again?
[17:26] <niston> IIRC, it wont recognize the HDMI if you plug it in after power up.
[17:26] <niston> so you have to connect the HDMI first to the raspberry and then the power.
[17:26] <StrawMachie> So what I need to do?
[17:27] <StrawMachie> ok
[17:27] <PovAddict> if you have HDMI connected, disconnect power and connect again
[17:27] <StrawMachie> So nothing happen again..
[17:27] <StrawMachie> I don't know if u can call it power
[17:27] <StrawMachie> It's just a usb plug from android
[17:27] <StrawMachie> Nothing happen :(
[17:27] <PovAddict> are you using a phone charger?
[17:27] <StrawMachie> yES
[17:27] <StrawMachie> Yes.
[17:27] <niston> StrawMachie: does the ACT led blink?
[17:28] <niston> it means activity btw
[17:28] <iceCalt> How much mA does your phone charger have?
[17:28] <StrawMachie> Nothing blink just I can see red and yello flash
[17:28] <StrawMachie> or green
[17:28] <niston> steady light?
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[17:28] <StrawMachie> Yes
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[17:28] <StrawMachie> Steady light both
[17:28] <niston> for PWR thats good, for ACT not so
[17:28] <StrawMachie> :/
[17:28] <StrawMachie> What I need to do?
[17:29] <niston> get an USB power supply that delivers 2Amps
[17:29] <StrawMachie> From where lol
[17:29] <niston> often the berry wont work if power supply aint right
[17:29] <niston> or act strange, that is
[17:29] <StrawMachie> Ahh :(
[17:29] <StrawMachie> Please a picture or a name?
[17:29] <StrawMachie> How does it looks alike?
[17:29] <niston> where you're from?
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[17:29] <StrawMachie> IL
[17:30] <StrawMachie> So what is the problem?
[17:30] <PovAddict> [12:28] <iceCalt> How much mA does your phone charger have?
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[17:31] <niston> hm I cant find a store in israel through google oO
[17:32] <iceCalt> niston, your search might be not kosher
[17:32] <niston> hehe
[17:32] <niston> StrawMachie: the one you're using now, it has some numbers printed on it
[17:32] <niston> something along the lines of "5V 750mA"
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[17:32] <StrawMachie> Hmm
[17:32] <niston> numbers might be different
[17:32] <StrawMachie> I changed the power..
[17:32] <niston> can you find them on your adaoter?
[17:33] <StrawMachie> I got AC ADAPTER
[17:33] <niston> oO
[17:33] <StrawMachie> Input or output?
[17:33] <PovAddict> output
[17:33] <niston> AC output?
[17:33] <StrawMachie> 5V = 1A
[17:33] <niston> <ah
[17:33] <StrawMachie> And second is
[17:33] <PovAddict> that should be fine
[17:33] <niston> good
[17:33] <niston> yeah
[17:34] <niston> 5V 1A should be plenty
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[17:34] <StrawMachie> The second is 5V = 2000 aH
[17:34] <StrawMachie> So which one please?
[17:34] <PovAddict> both should work OK, I don't know what problem you're having
[17:35] <PovAddict> hm I just realized
[17:35] <PovAddict> how do people use GPIO without a breakout board? :/
[17:35] <StrawMachie> Hmm
[17:35] <PovAddict> my canakit kit came with a ribbon cable and stuff to connect the GPIO to a breadboard
[17:35] <StrawMachie> I connect it AC ADAPTER and nothing happen
[17:35] <StrawMachie> :(
[17:35] <niston> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=62838
[17:36] <StrawMachie> Please help me power the raspberry
[17:36] <PovAddict> StrawMachie: read niston's link
[17:37] <niston> are you trying with noobs?
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[17:37] <StrawMachie> Yes
[17:37] <StrawMachie> I got noobs 8gb
[17:37] <StrawMachie> From pimoroni
[17:38] <niston> Im not familiar with it, but that link I posted says something about noobs and sandisk ultra cards
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[17:38] <niston> and a steady act light
[17:38] <niston> so..
[17:38] <StrawMachie> I also got red light
[17:38] <niston> yes red is good
[17:38] <niston> power
[17:38] <StrawMachie> So please help
[17:38] <niston> means it has good power
[17:38] <PovAddict> red light means it has power
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[17:38] <PovAddict> read the link
[17:38] <StrawMachie> Is it problem in my sd card?
[17:38] <niston> might be
[17:38] <niston> or noobs
[17:38] <StrawMachie> I read it
[17:38] <niston> considered trying with like, Raspbian ?
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[17:38] <StrawMachie> There just was OS on it
[17:39] <StrawMachie> http://i.imgur.com/tL8pc0K.png
[17:39] <niston> hmm
[17:39] <PovAddict> niston: we didn't want to confuse him further with flash him an OS, since his card already came with noobs
[17:39] <niston> I see
[17:39] <PovAddict> s/flash him/flashing/
[17:39] <niston> even weirder then
[17:39] <niston> you would think they wouldn't use incompatible cards/versions
[17:39] <niston> so
[17:40] <niston> not sure on this, but it might be the Pi you got there is faulty
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[17:40] <StrawMachie> Do I need to ask for a refund?
[17:41] <niston> declare it DOA, RMA it and ask for a replacement
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[17:41] <PovAddict> expand those acronyms :P
[17:41] <StrawMachie> What?
[17:41] <StrawMachie> I don't know what to do!!
[17:41] <niston> it was dead on arrival, send it back to manufacturer, demand a new one
[17:42] <StrawMachie> Are you sure?
[17:42] <niston> nope
[17:42] <StrawMachie> OMG
[17:42] <niston> but steady act light sounds suspicious to me
[17:42] <niston> also the card looks about ok from that screenshot
[17:42] <TheSnide> any url for having a huge I/O array from the Pi ? (huge == 56)
[17:42] <StrawMachie> https://www.royalmail.com/track-your-item?trackNumber=ru712430077gb
[17:42] <niston> so what else could it be? ideas?
[17:42] <StrawMachie> lol
[17:42] <StrawMachie> Look at that link
[17:43] <TheSnide> (huge == 256)
[17:43] <StrawMachie> To change the sd card?
[17:43] <niston> no the Pi
[17:43] <PovAddict> what model Pi is it?
[17:43] <TheSnide> ... currently looking @ shift registers, but it seems quite limited past 8 I/O
[17:43] <StrawMachie> B+
[17:43] <niston> TheSnide: i2c GPIO extender?
[17:44] <PovAddict> how much current do LEDs need?
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[17:44] <PovAddict> so I can calculate my resistors
[17:44] <TheSnide> niston: i2c... might not
[17:45] <TheSnide> niston: actually i just want to be able to control 256 output
[17:45] <RaMcHiP> Does anyone know of an XBMC package that I can just download with joystick enabled?
[17:45] <niston> normal led around 20mA I think
[17:45] <niston> red led
[17:45] <StrawMachie> Is there anyone with experience?
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[17:45] <niston> low current is more like 2mA
[17:46] <TheSnide> the outputs don't need much current, as they'll be used to control mostfet.
[17:46] <niston> TheSnide: http://www.adafruit.com/product/593
[17:46] <niston> StrawMachie: I have a pi with a dead watchdog
[17:46] <StrawMachie> ???
[17:46] <StrawMachie> comeon
[17:46] <StrawMachie> Please help me
[17:47] <niston> watchdog is a circuit that resets the cpu when your program is not running anymore.
[17:47] <PovAddict> you say that as if we didn't want to help you :P
[17:47] <niston> I have a Pi here that resets all the time.
[17:47] <PovAddict> for me you ran into my knowledge limit
[17:47] <PovAddict> I don't know more to help you
[17:47] <niston> watchdog can't be reset.
[17:47] <TheSnide> niston: seems exactly what i need, but i'd like 256 outputs :-)
[17:47] <niston> what I mean is, it's not common, but it does happen that something is defective.
[17:48] <shiftplusone> (offtopic) Jeebus, how much fail can you fit in one video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Nr31Lv6H8 (Rescuing a cat, dead or alive).
[17:48] <TheSnide> niston: ... yeah i know
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[17:48] <niston> and I have no other idea what the reason for your non booting pi may be
[17:48] <niston> especially as you have a preformatted, preloaded card you're trying to boot from
[17:48] <PovAddict> hm
[17:48] <niston> and the card has contents that *look* about ok (im no noobs expert, again)
[17:48] <niston> so what else could be the reason?
[17:48] <PovAddict> with my old electronic kit I used 9v and 3k3ohm resistors for LEDs
[17:48] <niston> Im asking because I don't know.
[17:48] <PovAddict> that comes out to 2.7mA
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[17:49] <PovAddict> GPIO gives 3.3v right?
[17:49] <niston> yes PovAddict
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[17:51] <TheSnide> niston: oh. i2c is a nifty protocol. Thx for the link
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[17:51] <iceCalt__> I don't know why I get kicked from this connection hue
[17:51] <niston> TheSnide: yw
[17:51] <niston> :)
[17:51] <niston> i2c is fly yes
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[17:52] <niston> and remember its i-squared-c not i-to-c :>
[17:52] <StrawMachie> lol it works
[17:52] <StrawMachie> I didnt plug it correctly
[17:52] <niston> LOL
[17:52] <StrawMachie> I am a sensitive person so i doesn't want to hurt it
[17:52] <niston> psbkac
[17:52] <StrawMachie> it's work :)
[17:52] <niston> :>
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[17:53] <PovAddict> a 1 kohm resistor would work it seems
[17:53] <niston> good StrawMachie, that saved you from further shipping costs :>
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[17:55] <StrawMachie> yay
[17:56] <StrawMachie> I installed Raspbian
[17:56] <StrawMachie> Is the OS good?
[17:56] <PovAddict> yup
[17:56] <niston> its the standard
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[17:58] <TheSnide> niston: yeah, like emc2 (--> goes out)
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[18:00] <StrawMachie> A question:
[18:00] <StrawMachie> I have like In the sky police helicopter.. it's not work. Can I plug it into raspberry pi?
[18:01] <StrawMachie> lol
[18:01] <StrawMachie> Please tell me there is a way
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[18:02] <Davespice> is it a remote control one? like a parrot ar drone?
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[18:04] <StrawMachie> Hmm
[18:04] <StrawMachie> I can't find the remote control
[18:05] <StrawMachie> :(
[18:05] <StrawMachie> I want to plug raspberry pi to some toy and hack it
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[18:16] <RaMcHiP> Sonny_Jim, Do you have a suggestion where I should start or with what build I should start to get --enable-joystick built in?
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[18:20] <Sonny_Jim> Did you try with the configuration options I linked to?
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[18:24] <RaMcHiP> yes
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[18:24] <RaMcHiP> It compiled but couldnt start gui
[18:25] <StrawMachie> k
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[18:25] <StrawMachie> I don't know hat to do with raspberry XD
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[18:26] <Davespice> with some cheap remote control toys you can hack the remote to be triggered by the Pi GPIO pins
[18:27] <Davespice> kind of like making your own bigtrak
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[18:27] <StrawMachie> How do I do that?
[18:28] <Davespice> it involves taking the remote apart and doing some soldering
[18:28] <StrawMachie> I am a beginner..
[18:28] <StrawMachie> Although I know some programming
[18:28] <StrawMachie> :)
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[18:29] <Davespice> perhaps have a look here for inspiration then: http://www.raspberrypi.org/resources/make/
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[18:30] <Davespice> the fart detector is pretty good :)
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[18:30] <StrawMachie> Davespice: What is it?
[18:31] <Davespice> its a fart detector... it detects farts and sounds an alarm when someone farts
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[18:31] <Davespice> it detects the gasses so even works on animals
[18:31] <StrawMachie> oh I understand..
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[18:32] <StrawMachie> I just can't find right word in my language.
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[18:32] <Davespice> the quick reaction game is also a nice intro to using the GPIO pins
[18:32] <StrawMachie> I bought some kits for arduino will it work for my raspberry pi?
[18:33] <Davespice> it depends on what it is
[18:33] <StrawMachie> Some beginner kits
[18:33] <taza> Or you could not be a painful dad to have...
[18:33] <StrawMachie> What?
[18:33] <Davespice> it may well do, as long as it uses digital signals
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[18:34] <taza> (The only kind of person who both finds a fart detector funny and has a Pi is overwhelmingly likely the kind of dad whose jokes trigger a "shut up dad" every time they're said)
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[18:34] <Davespice> okay to be fair, I never said I thought it was funny, but hey <shrug>
[18:35] <taza> I've been considering rigging my Pi to my lights
[18:35] <taza> So I can remote control my lights through the wifi
[18:36] <taza> Walking to the switch is so 1999. Especially for me.
[18:36] <Davespice> hmm, I reccomend using the Energine for any mains controlled stuff you want to do, please don't go wiring mains into a relay or anything
[18:37] <taza> I'll solder the Pi directly into the fuse box.
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[18:37] <Davespice> https://energenie4u.co.uk/index.php/catalogue/product/ENER002-2PI
[18:37] <taza> ... alas, no, I'm p sure I'd be assaulted by a gaggle of electricians if I did anything unsafe here.
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[18:38] <taza> Walking is so 1999, because that's the last time I walked.
[18:38] <taza> Or was it 2000? One or the other.
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[18:40] <taza> I mean, I remember the day very well - given I was left to my own devices by the teacher to leave when I injured my leg and couldn't walk anymore. But not when it was, exactly.
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[18:42] <taza> But no, a remote controlled "sugar cube" between the light itself and the ceiling socket isn't hard to find.
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[19:07] <RaMcHiP> Man, XBMC is a pain.. I cannot find anyone that has a package that has joystick enabled yet there are tons of threads on it..
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[19:10] <Sonny_Jim> I'm guessing, but it's probably a massive pain in the rear to compile it statically
[19:11] <Sonny_Jim> does it have a --enable-static option?
[19:12] <RaMcHiP> I dont think so
[19:12] <Sonny_Jim> ./configure --help
[19:12] <Sonny_Jim> Have a look
[19:13] <Sonny_Jim> Or you could be really fancy and do:
[19:13] <Sonny_Jim> ./configure --help|grep static
[19:13] <RaMcHiP> I am almost tempted to just drop it and use the precompiled
[19:13] <RaMcHiP> I deleted that lemme re download it :)
[19:13] <Sonny_Jim> I thought you had it compiled?
[19:13] <RaMcHiP> I did but I reflashed my card because I had accidentially installed with apt-get and a repository
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[19:14] <RaMcHiP> Can I recompile using a repository that already exists?
[19:14] <RaMcHiP> It was my fault downloading 2 versions
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[19:15] <RaMcHiP> This is why I took an image before doing this though ;)
[19:16] <ShorTie> joystick, i think there is a kernel option too for that
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[19:18] <RaMcHiP> yeah its a pain to compile :)
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> Erm
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> apt-get remove xbmc?
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> Don't remember having to use a kernel option before
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> You might have to modprobe a module
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[19:19] <RaMcHiP> I am naked now, I have no XBMC installed. Looking for a viable option before I proceed :)
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[19:21] <RaMcHiP> http://michael.gorven.za.net/raspberrypi/xbmc this works but no joystick and cant figure out if I can recompile with the proper options after downloaded
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[19:25] <com_kieffer> Hi, I'm trying to pass variables into a new shell with os.run. It's not really working.
[19:25] <com_kieffer> Here's a test case :
[19:25] <com_kieffer> print("skip_init = " .. tostring(skip_init))
[19:25] <com_kieffer> read() -- pause
[19:25] <com_kieffer> os.run({["skip_init"] = true}, "/rom/programs/shell")
[19:25] <PovAddict> is that python?
[19:25] <com_kieffer> shit, wring channel
[19:25] <com_kieffer> nvm
[19:26] <com_kieffer> Computercraft lua
[19:26] <PovAddict> bah, it's been too long, I forgot how to read resistor codes
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[19:28] <knob> Hey guys... can I use the rPi's 3.3v output, and feed it to one of the GPIO pins? Or do I have to put a resistor in there?
[19:30] <Sonny_Jim> Probably want to use a current limiting resistor, but gordonDrogon is the GPIO wizard round here
[19:31] <knob> Ok ok
[19:31] <knob> Thanks Sonny_Jim
[19:32] <Sonny_Jim> Could always set the pin to float high and use GND instead
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[19:32] <PovAddict> yay I found it
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[19:33] <niston> http://www.mosaic-industries.com/embedded-systems/microcontroller-projects/raspberry-pi/gpio-pin-electrical-specifications
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[19:36] <PovAddict> ran out of desk space again :(
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[19:36] <niston> you need a desk space expander
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[19:45] <RaMcHiP> I think I may have to live without joystick support. Atleast CEC works :)
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[20:03] <StrawMachie> Hello!
[20:03] <StrawMachie> I consider buy some stuff for raspberry pi.
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[20:04] <StrawMachie> I would like to hear suggestions.
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[20:07] <shiftplusone> StrawMachie, what kind of stuff?
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[20:07] <StrawMachie> Sorry I don't know.
[20:08] <StrawMachie> I got xbox 360 and I think I want to do something with raspberry pi.
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[20:08] <StrawMachie> Or anything
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[20:09] <StrawMachie> I really want to make a robot with raspberry pi XD
[20:09] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: MAME cabinet, Bluetooth speakers, Media Center, photobooth, home environmental monitoring, access control system, LED signage, robots, web kiosk, thin client
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[20:12] <StrawMachie> What does MAME cabinet mean?
[20:13] <StrawMachie> nvm
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[20:22] <StrawMachie> Which Displays should I buy or led?
[20:23] <rigid> better buy
[20:23] <StrawMachie> I only got 20$
[20:23] <StrawMachie> The better is 40$
[20:23] <StrawMachie> :(
[20:25] <chithead> you can use the rpi as fm transmitter
[20:25] <TheSnide> anyone tried f2fs on the SD ?
[20:25] <StrawMachie> How can I do that?
[20:26] <StrawMachie> FM transmitter
[20:26] <StrawMachie> Sounds cool!
[20:26] <chithead> http://www.icrobotics.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Turning_the_Raspberry_Pi_Into_an_FM_Transmitter
[20:26] <StrawMachie> I think about making but no idiea how ;(
[20:26] <StrawMachie> Thanks!!
[20:26] <TheSnide> ... those i2c chips are indeed impressive. t
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[20:26] <StrawMachie> can 20$ will be good?
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[21:17] <zlimvos> why dont i have colours on my rpi/bash/putty ?
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[21:27] <shiftplusone> zlimvos, a bit vague there
[21:28] <Sonny_Jim> I dunno, I got what they were talking about
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[21:28] <Sonny_Jim> what's the terminal variable set to?
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[21:48] <RaMcHiP> I have wondered that myself
[21:48] <RaMcHiP> How do I get color coding for putty?
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[21:49] <Sonny_Jim> I believe it depends on what the terminal variable is set to
[21:50] <RaMcHiP> sweet I will research that a bit
[21:50] <Sonny_Jim> echo $TERM
[21:50] <Sonny_Jim> Mine is set to xterm
[21:50] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: http://lifehacker.com/274317/turbocharge-your-terminal
[21:51] <RaMcHiP> Ty sir!
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[21:54] <StrawMachie> Is it possible to learn ASM in raspberry?
[21:55] <Sonny_Jim> Depends on what chip you want to write ASM f
[21:56] <Sonny_Jim> *for
[21:56] <TheSnide> arm asm yes
[21:56] <Sonny_Jim> ASM isn't the same language on different Archs
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[21:56] <Sonny_Jim> unlike C, perl etc
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[21:57] <shiftplusone> StrawMachie, yeah.
[21:58] <StrawMachie> I don't know
[21:58] <TheSnide> but for arm asm, i'd target some exotic platform such as gba or something like it
[21:59] <StrawMachie> I am not sure what to buy for raspberry pi or what projectst to make
[21:59] <shiftplusone> Yes, some of the folks who did fancy stuff on gba have come to do fancy things on the pi
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[21:59] <StrawMachie> I want to make some robot!!
[21:59] <TheSnide> much more fun, with its twisted memory model & vo
[22:00] <StrawMachie> Right now I got 20$
[22:00] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: start small
[22:00] <shiftplusone> Start with whatever interests you
[22:00] <StrawMachie> I like Java XD
[22:00] <shiftplusone> .....oh
[22:00] <shiftplusone> We can work on that....
[22:00] <StrawMachie> I want to learn C/C++ (I know C basic [ not to advanced] ) , I know Python basic.
[22:00] <StrawMachie> I mean Basic not to advanced
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[22:01] <StrawMachie> And I am beginner to raspberry pi and want to learn for fun!
[22:01] <TheSnide> that said, i mostly never felt the need to go asm since a while
[22:01] <StrawMachie> What do you recommend me to buy, to do?
[22:01] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: start small
[22:01] <StrawMachie> But I stopped to read Java book because I am stress with school.
[22:01] <StrawMachie> How small?
[22:02] <shiftplusone> StrawMachie, maybe start by reading up on how to drive motors, then buy the necessary components and connect some wheels to your pi.
[22:02] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: learn how to light an LED
[22:02] <TheSnide> C is a glorified asm. and much morz convenient
[22:02] <StrawMachie> I bought arduino with leds so I am waiting for it.
[22:02] <StrawMachie> I am not sure if I should buy more leds.
[22:02] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: if you have 10, that's enough
[22:02] <shiftplusone> TheSnide, that statement is true to the extent any compiled language is glorified asm.
[22:03] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: save your money till your kit comes ... learn with that, then decide what your next purchase should be
[22:03] <TheSnide> shiftplusone: well, C is quite thin as a layer on top of asm
[22:03] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: where are you from?
[22:03] <StrawMachie> http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNO-R3-Starter-Kit-1602-LCD-Servo-Dot-Matrix-Breadboard-LED-Resistor-for-Arduino-/151183574145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23333e4481
[22:03] <StrawMachie> Wrote here only one led..
[22:04] <StrawMachie> Why does it matter where I am from?
[22:04] <TheSnide> i'd say the thinnest layer possible. if you dont use libc.
[22:04] <StrawMachie> I would like to hear recommendation.
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[22:04] <StrawMachie> So I think I should buy leds?
[22:04] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: because there are maker/hackerspaces all around the world perfect for you to join and learn and hack on these types of things
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[22:05] <StrawMachie> I am from Israel.
[22:05] <StrawMachie> But I think I am old for raspberry pi :/
[22:05] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: never
[22:05] <StrawMachie> Ok! ^_^
[22:05] <rigid> only if you're too old for fun :)
[22:06] <StrawMachie> I think I want to hack toys and connect to raspberry pi
[22:06] <shiftplusone> TheSnide, Maybe if you're only talking bare metal, sure. I don't know, I just don't find it a very meaningful comparison. They've very different languages.
[22:06] <rigid> StrawMachie: some basic electronics knowledge will help with that
[22:07] <shiftplusone> StrawMachie, too old for the pi? XD
[22:07] <StrawMachie> I don't think I have any knowledge except some basic programming.
[22:07] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Tel_Aviv_Makers_Intl.
[22:07] <shiftplusone> StrawMachie, Check out some of the folks on the forum. Hell, our very own gordonDrogon has been here since before Earth itself.
[22:08] <StrawMachie> leftyfb: I will take a look on it. shiftplusone: I will go to forum in other time.
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[22:08] <StrawMachie> Just now I want to know recommendation or what to buy and do with raspberry pi as I mentioned what I know.
[22:09] <StrawMachie> I think I want to buy lcd and display the output of bitcoin rate XD
[22:09] <StrawMachie> But I don't know how to make that.
[22:09] <shiftplusone> If you want to start simple, but are willing to pay extra, take a look at the adafruit store and tutorials.
[22:10] <StrawMachie> Is 20$ enough?
[22:10] <StrawMachie> But currently I got only raspberry Pi.
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[22:11] <leftyfb> StrawMachie: if you're getting the kit from ebay that you posted, then just use that for testing with the pi till you learn more. Save your $20 for when you've exhausted the testing using your existing kit and want to expand capabilities
[22:11] <StrawMachie> Ok.
[22:12] <StrawMachie> Thanks people.
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[22:42] <f00bar80> I was using a wifi to connect my Pi to the internet, then now i've switched to a wired connection, but can't get the pi to appear in my router's DHCP table, i thought that the pi is pre setup to use DHCP without configuration .. am i wrong ?
[22:42] <NedScott> The normal Raspbian image should use DHCP
[22:42] <NedScott> as should most Pi-friendly distros
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[22:43] <f00bar80> NedScott, why then ... i can't get the pi appear in the dhcp table ? i've tried rebooting , un/replugging the cable .. always the same
[22:44] <NedScott> is it a B+?
[22:44] <f00bar80> NedScott, no B
[22:44] <NedScott> hmm, not sure
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[22:47] <ShorTie> is the wifi still hooked up ??
[22:48] <f00bar80> ShorTie, i disconnected it
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[22:49] <ShorTie> and then rebooted ??
[22:49] <f00bar80> ShorTie, yea
[22:49] <ShorTie> when setting up the wifi did you play in /etc/network/interfaces ??
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[22:50] <f00bar80> ShorTie, i've added iface wlan0 mode monitor
[22:51] <ShorTie> ok, don't know what all that is
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[22:52] <f00bar80> ShorTie, so now what options do i have ?
[22:53] <ShorTie> can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces somewhere for a look see ??
[22:54] <f00bar80> ShorTie, i can't access the pi .. i was using ssh to login
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[22:55] <ShorTie> not accessing the pi is gonna make it hard, can you plug the wifi back in for a bit ??
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[22:56] <f00bar80> ShorTie, i did and always the pi doesn't appear in the dhcp table
[22:56] <ShorTie> i'm guessing you change something for eth0 while you where playing wifi setup
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[22:56] <ShorTie> with the ethernet cable disconnected ??
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[22:58] <f00bar80> ShorTie, yea
[22:58] <ShorTie> did the wifi stop working, or did you just decide to go back to the cable ??
[22:58] <ShorTie> can you see the pi ??
[22:58] <f00bar80> ShorTie, the wifi stopped working
[22:59] <f00bar80> ShorTie, i can't see it on both wifi and wired
[22:59] <ShorTie> like what lights are lite up ??
[22:59] <evil_dan2wik> lit, not lite
[22:59] <f00bar80> ShorTie, only a red led and wifi usb led
[22:59] <ShorTie> i'm leaning to file corruption now
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[23:00] <evil_dan2wik> f00bar80, do you have a usb serial adapter or an arduino?
[23:00] <f00bar80> evil_dan2wik, yea i have arduino uno
[23:00] <ShorTie> can you unplug it and watch the lights while you plug it back in ??
[23:01] <f00bar80> ShorTie, the wifi?
[23:01] <ShorTie> no, the pi
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[23:01] <evil_dan2wik> f00bar80, got some resistors?
[23:01] <ShorTie> main to watch the green act light
[23:02] <ShorTie> mainly*
[23:02] <evil_dan2wik> f00bar80, http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection
[23:03] <ShorTie> i think like what your nic is, is what has happened to your sdcard
[23:03] <ruben-ikmaak> hi people, i have a problem with volumio (http://volumio.org), when using a wifi stick to use as AP with dhcp to make it standalone. I can connect to the wifi, but cannot connect to the ip of the volumio-service via browser
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[23:04] <ShorTie> was the wifi plugged into the pi or a powered usb hub ??
[23:04] <ruben-ikmaak> i can ping the server, but volumio will not load from both the ip, and its adress volumio.local
[23:04] <ruben-ikmaak> directly, but its low power
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[23:04] <ruben-ikmaak> i can connect to volumio from the eth, both with the ip as with the .local
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[23:05] <ruben-ikmaak> i can network it ok, but i would like it to be fully autonomous
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[23:06] <ruben-ikmaak> i used this as a config guideline: http://www.daveconroy.com/using-your-raspberry-pi-as-a-wireless-router-and-web-server/
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[23:06] <ShorTie> sorry ruben-ikmaak, that wasn't meant for you, but depending on what model pi/power adapter you have it is best to have wifi plugged into a powered usb hub
[23:06] <f00bar80> ShorTie, wifi was plugged
[23:07] <ShorTie> ??
[23:08] <ruben-ikmaak> this works well for another setup, but volumio will not react. Tried with powered usb as well, dont think thats the problem
[23:08] <f00bar80> ShorTie, i'm not using powered usb hub
[23:09] <ShorTie> well with a model B, that can cause problems
[23:09] <ruben-ikmaak> but i bought this one specifically for its ability to run on the rpi without hub, btw psu is 2a
[23:09] <ShorTie> and mess up your sdcard
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[23:10] <f00bar80> evil_dan2wik, i have resistors ,, so?
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[23:13] <ruben-ikmaak> but i just tried again, the powered usb made no difference
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[23:13] <ShorTie> have you watched the lights yet while plugging it in ??
[23:14] <f00bar80> yea ,, green light on/off
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[23:16] <ShorTie> just once or a bunch of times ??
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[23:16] <f00bar80> ShorTie, bunch of times
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[23:17] <ShorTie> ok, that is good
[23:18] <ShorTie> and when you plug the ethernet cable in do more lights light up ??
[23:18] <f00bar80> ShorTie, yea
[23:21] <ShorTie> ok, so i'm back to thinking it is in the config and looking in /etc/network/interfaces sure would help
[23:21] <ShorTie> no keyboard and tv you could use ??
[23:22] <f00bar80> ShorTie, that's the only option i have?
[23:22] <ShorTie> or another linux pc to mount the sdcard
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[23:28] <Sonny_Jim> I'm not too hot on modulo
[23:28] <Sonny_Jim> But would this give be true for 3,6,9,12 etc:
[23:28] <Sonny_Jim> return n % 3;
[23:28] <Sonny_Jim> ?
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[23:33] <f00bar80> evil_dan2wik, so what...? i have resistors and arduino uno .. so?
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[23:37] <ShorTie> Sonny_Jim, the wiki has some examples that might help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulo_operation
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[23:39] <Sonny_Jim> They don't help me :-(
[23:39] <aditsu> Sonny_Jim: that would give 0, which is usually false
[23:41] <aditsu> n % 3 == 0 would be true
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[23:44] <evil_dan2wik> sorry, had to go eat
[23:44] <evil_dan2wik> f00bar80, connect the arduino's serial pins to the Pi's serial pins.
[23:45] <Sonny_Jim> Oh, I see thanks aditsu
[23:45] <Sonny_Jim> It's remainder, innit
[23:45] <evil_dan2wik> you shouldn't need resistors for this arduino.
[23:45] <evil_dan2wik> f00bar80, before you connect the serial, upload the blink sketch first.
[23:45] <aditsu> yes it is
[23:46] <aditsu> Sonny_Jim: first phrase from wikipedia :)
[23:46] <evil_dan2wik> f00bar80, http://elinux.org/images/2/2a/GPIOs.png
[23:46] <evil_dan2wik> GPIO 14 and 15
[23:46] <Sonny_Jim> So what happens when n = 0?
[23:46] <Sonny_Jim> 0/3 is a bit hard for me to work out
[23:47] <evil_dan2wik> 0/3 is 0
[23:47] <aditsu> 0/3 = 0, remainder 0
[23:47] <evil_dan2wik> 3/0 is infinity.
[23:47] <Sonny_Jim> so: n = 0 % 3, n would be 0?
[23:47] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
[23:48] <Sonny_Jim> I see
[23:48] <evil_dan2wik> since you are dividing by 3
[23:48] <Sonny_Jim> And there is no remainder?
[23:48] <evil_dan2wik> but if you were dividing by 0, it would go to infinity.
[23:48] <evil_dan2wik> 0 has no remainder.
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[23:50] <f00bar80> evil_dan2wik, then ?
[23:51] <evil_dan2wik> then open the serial monitor
[23:51] <evil_dan2wik> Highest baud 115200
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[23:51] <evil_dan2wik> and then turn the Pi on
[23:51] <evil_dan2wik> or restart it,
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[23:56] <f00bar80> evil_dan2wik, then
[23:56] <evil_dan2wik> you restarted the Pi with serial monitor connected?
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[23:57] <evil_dan2wik> f00bar80, you should see a large amount of kernel debug messages scrolling and then a login prompt.
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[23:57] <M3mphiZ> Hey guys, I have the problem that wlan0: link becomes ready is sometimes happening too late. the DHCP request on boot doesn't get anything as the wifi adapter is not ready. Funny thing is: if LAN is attached it seems to be working fine, any ideas how to get the wifi adapter to become ready earlier?
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