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IRC Log for 2014-11-01

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[0:37] <biberao> Romeo-: what do you mean?
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[1:57] <dkog> hi guys - I'm getting rainbow square undervolt on new B+, but measuring power and it's consistently at 5.09V from my powered hub... what gives?
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[2:42] <shiftplusone> dkog, where are you measuring and is the rainbow square on when you do?
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[2:47] <dkog> shiftplusone: measuring at USB port between hub and raspi, and rainbow square pops up in top-right of screen periodically especially when network being accessed
[2:48] <dkog> I'm measuring with an in-line USB "charge doctor" which shows V and A alternately every 3 sec
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[2:52] <dkog> and the mesurements are pretty constant, whether the rainbow square is shown or not
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[3:05] <shiftplusone> So.... you're not measuring where it matters.
[3:05] <shiftplusone> I don't have the schematics here to troubleshoot it properly, but there are a few forum threads where the test points are documented
[3:06] <shiftplusone> you want to look at the 5v line straight after the magic diode.
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[3:08] <dkog> can you explain why it doesn't matter there? if it's 5.09V where I'm measuring and less after the "magic diod" (heh), then wouldn't that suggest a fault with the Pi hardware itself?
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[3:09] <ShorTie> 5.09v seems a little high to me really, i wonder how acurate that charge doctor is ??
[3:10] <dkog> I think USB is specified at 5.00 +/- 0.25 V
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[3:10] <ShorTie> what is the volt output on the label of the wall warwart your using ??
[3:10] <dkog> 5V
[3:12] <ShorTie> they normally don't give extra
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[3:13] <dkog> we're talking about less than 2% variance
[3:14] <Matt> shiftplusone:why are you still awake?
[3:14] <dkog> i have a meter if there's somewhere else I should measure
[3:14] <ShorTie> but like shiftplusone said, need a meter and check at the test points really
[3:14] <ShorTie> it's friday, lol.
[3:14] <shiftplusone> Matt, I'm on 25 hour days.
[3:15] <ShorTie> or was
[3:15] <Matt> it's still 2am
[3:15] <Matt> and I'm going to bed
[3:15] <shiftplusone> I was in the office when people left and still there when people were coming in in the morning.... so I'm all over the place right now.
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[3:15] <ShorTie> sounds like a good idea
[3:15] <ShadowJK> dkog, "rainbow square" is a thing you attach to USB?
[3:16] <shiftplusone> dkog, if you're having strange behaviour, you need to diagnose it carefully. The bottom of the B+ is covered with test points to help you figure out exactly what's going wrong.
[3:16] <dkog> ShadowJK: no, rainbow square is new undervoltage warning. see http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=82373
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[3:17] <dkog> shiftplusone: do you have link to where i can read about it?
[3:17] <shiftplusone> not anything I can bring up quickly
[3:17] <shiftplusone> So step 1) check what the pi is actually seeing. If it's getting 5V but displaying the warning, then that's something we might need to look at. If you're not getting 5v, then we'd need to see where it's dropping and why.
[3:18] <ShadowJK> dkog, oh okay, so is this new feature meant to tell you if it's a good idea to get a decent PSU?
[3:18] <dkog> ShadowJK: basically yes, new on B+
[3:19] <shiftplusone> ShadowJK, aye, there's a voltage monitor chip and the output from that goes to the pi and the red led. If it drops below something like 4.6v the red led will turn off or flicker and the firmware will show up the warning.
[3:19] <ShadowJK> That's awesome :-)
[3:20] <ShadowJK> I spent 2 months trying to diagnose a one-wire temperature sensor net
[3:20] <ShadowJK> Before finally realizing that the noise was because of the powersupply
[3:20] <ShadowJK> ... Admittedly, the new system as described would probably not help...
[3:21] <ShadowJK> but it's nice that they're starting to rejecft cheap psu by default
[3:22] <shiftplusone> Not really reject, just wave its arms around trying to let the user know.
[3:23] <shiftplusone> Yet people still come back with "Great, but how do I disable it?" or "Well it didn't happen with a B, so why is the B+ broken!?"
[3:23] <dkog> shiftplusone: ok, so no links, but any suggestions on how to figure out what's causing the unvervolt rainbow? search terms? i'm just kind of at a loss -- tried multiple PSUs, measured incoming volts and current and found it to look good, ... just kind of confused why I'm seeing rainbows :)
[3:24] <ShadowJK> Sadly, my originald PSU's defect was undetectable by the measures back then, and also by current measures, and also by my current scope...
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[3:25] <dkog> btw ShadowJK "USB Charge Doctor" is the thing you can plug in to measure power: http://www.adafruit.com/product/1852
[3:25] <shiftplusone> dkog, could you describe your setup. Does the pi's main chip get hot to touch quickly? Does the warning appear if you only have the sd card, display and microusb power connected? What happens to the red LED?
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[3:26] <shiftplusone> And an actual multimeter should be used. That charge thing is not helpful here.
[3:27] <ShadowJK> dkog, that's a children's toy for this purposes
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[3:27] <ShorTie> is there a tp1 and tp2 pn it, i'd be game to measure between the 2 in hopes they didn't change that piece of critical info
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[3:28] <shiftplusone> there are test pads, but they're not labeled tp1 and tp2
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[3:28] <ShorTie> oh, bummer
[3:28] <shiftplusone> and there are lots of them. I don't remember off the top of my head which would be tp2-tp2 equivalent.
[3:28] <shiftplusone> tp1*
[3:28] <shiftplusone> but I know that info is in the chat logs when I looked it up before and also on the forum.
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[3:30] <ShorTie> The best place to measure now is I think across the test PAD's (but not holes) PP1 (VCC) and PP3 (GND) on the back side around the polyfuse F1.
[3:30] <ShorTie> from http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=83022
[3:31] <dkog> shiftplusone: i have a multimeter
[3:32] <abnormal> I have a oneameter...
[3:34] <dkog> shiftplusone: currently i have connected: the power coming in, a wired USB keyboard, and LCD display via HDMI port. The rainbow square flashes a few times during bootup, but doesn't seem to show afterward.
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[3:34] <dkog> When I use the WiFi (standard recommended edimax one), it rainbowsquares me all the time
[3:35] <shiftplusone> So.... I see no reason to think it's anything but a bad power supply and/or cable.
[3:35] <shiftplusone> (unless something is actually blown in which case again.... multimeter and test points)
[3:36] <shiftplusone> If you ping me on monday, I can pull up the schematics and we can go through it. (If you don't figure it out by then)
[3:36] <dkog> In this config, I get 4.91V between PP1 and PP3 test pads
[3:36] <NedScott> I know it would be painfully easy to just do this myself with a short cable, but with all the silly Pi accessories out there, I'm surprised that no one has tried to market a stiff 90 degree camera connector that doesn't flex at all
[3:37] <dkog> I will measure PP1-PP3 with wifi now
[3:37] <dkog> right when I plug in wifi adapter, the rainbowsquare pops up
[3:38] <dkog> 4.85 V between PP1 and PP3 with wifi adapter plugged in
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[3:39] <NedScott> also, this is awesome: http://www.truetex.com/raspberry_pi_13.jpg
[3:39] <shiftplusone> heh
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[3:40] <shiftplusone> There's some cool astrophotography does with the picam as well.
[3:40] <NedScott> http://www.truetex.com/raspberrypi
[3:40] <NedScott> ouch, $85
[3:40] <NedScott> for that much I might try to eyeball my own adapter
[3:40] <NedScott> wouldn't hurt to try :)
[3:42] <dkog> with another power supply, I get 4.90 - 4.91 V between PP1 and PP3 and hardly any rainbow squares (but I've seen them)
[3:42] <dkog> what is "under voltage" threshold?
[3:42] <NedScott> I got some cheapie clear cases and I've just been mounting mine inside for my little experiments
[3:42] <NedScott> but it would be neat to mount some lens on there
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[3:43] <dkog> NedScott: http://www.truetex.com/raspberry_pi_13.jpg - that's sweet !
[3:43] <dkog> "spy pi"
[3:43] <skyroveRR> dkog: don't you have an old computer PSU? That gives you more than 5VDC.
[3:44] <dkog> skyroveRR: what would I do with it?
[3:44] <skyroveRR> Try to think?
[3:45] <shiftplusone> dkog, 4.65 volts. So when you plug something in, there's a rush of current that the supply can't deal with (or there is a voltage drop across the cable). The multimeter won't show it actually going that low because it happens too quickly. But the fact that it dropped to 4.85 just from plugging in a wifi dongle does seem to indicate that this is the sort of thing that's happening.
[3:48] <dkog> I'm using the http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Adapter-Charging-Support-Motorola/dp/B005P2BY5I USB hub which I had heard was good with Pi, but apparently not?
[3:48] <dkog> it's so fickle
[3:48] <dkog> also using an external battery pack, same problem.
[3:49] <dkog> the direct wall wart is the only one that doesn't make me see rainbows constantly
[3:50] <dkog> (4.7 V between pads using the battery, without even connecting wifi)
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[3:52] <shiftplusone> Ah, well no wonder you did barrel rolls any time anybody asked about the power supply XD. If you had just said you're using batteries and some random thing off amazon...
[3:53] <dkog> shiftplusone: heh I wouldn't call it "random" - I found it recommended from searching for powered hubs for Pi, and it seemed to work fine for my A model
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[3:55] <dkog> what am I actually measuring between PP1/PP3? is that "past the magic diode" (and what does that mean) ?
[3:56] <dkog> and if I can't trust people online saying that power supplies (like that hub) work great with their Pis, what's the best way to find reliable power supplies? I want to make sure my Pi is well fed and taken care of
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[3:57] <shiftplusone> The magic diode is the thing which behaves like an ideal diode for input protection (negligible voltage drop and only lets current flow in one direction)
[3:58] <shiftplusone> dkog, I use this one http://swag.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-universal-power-supply
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[3:59] <shiftplusone> But any 5V 1A+ supply that comes with a phone or a gizmo from HTC/Samsung/Apple*/Asus or any of the companies you can sue for burning down your house should be okay.
[4:00] <shiftplusone> *Not all Apple chargers work. The US cubey version that comes with I forget what is known to drop too much
[4:00] <dkog> I don't know... I could sue Plugable for burning down my house, but it can't provide consistent power through its hub
[4:00] <shiftplusone> http://www.righto.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-apple-is.html
[4:02] <dkog> is there something about USB hubs in general that's not good?
[4:06] <shiftplusone> I am yet to see a good one, but I don't know why they're all.... the way they are.
[4:06] <shiftplusone> Anyway.... Tea, Boardwalk Empire and nap time.
[4:06] <dkog> thanks man, appreciate the help
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[4:07] <shiftplusone> Not sure I was of any, but you're certainly welcome =D
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[5:54] <dkog> just installed RaspBMC and I have flickering green pixels all over the screen in dark areas... and I'm using a good power supply now
[5:54] <NedScott> check the HDMI cable
[5:55] <NedScott> while normally HDMI cables are an all or nothing kind of thing, sometimes a weak signal can still work but give green pixels like you describe
[5:57] <dkog> hmm it hasnn't done it in console or X windows before, only raspbmc
[5:59] <NedScott> a lot more data is being sent for a moving picture
[5:59] <dkog> I'm trying config_hdmi_boost=4 now
[5:59] <dkog> it goins HDMI out to DVI in if that makes a difference
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[6:00] <dkog> hey I think that fixed it!
[6:00] <dkog> (for now)
[6:01] <dkog> anything cool to do with this setup now? for some reason I thought it had netflix
[6:02] <botnut> attach it to a robot
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[6:02] <dkog> haha i mean with xbmc, streaming wise
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[6:06] <NedScott> watch movies and have it dim your lights when the movie starts
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[6:06] <NedScott> you can even put in your own trivia and trailers before the movie starts
[6:06] <botnut> no idea never used xbmc
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[6:06] <botnut> I used it for robotics, security, and experiments
[6:07] <botnut> use not used lol
[6:07] <dkog> what kinda robots?
[6:08] <botnut> ugv, uuv, usv so far
[6:08] <botnut> no uavs yet lol
[6:09] <botnut> dkog - it also makes for a nifty little server
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[6:10] <botnut> dkog - made some NAS devices with it - and some internal web servers - even had them running mysql and doing some funky stuff
[6:10] <botnut> clusterPI
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[6:10] <dkog> deal with sd card corruption much?
[6:10] <botnut> hasn't happened yet
[6:10] <botnut> my frustration is really with the dang ethernet port being bridged over the usb - SLOOOW
[6:11] <botnut> or not ALL keyboards working with it right
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[6:11] <botnut> I've had a pi running for 100+ days - no sd corruption at all but I don't overclock it
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[10:02] <SohamG> i am following this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK-JHfJqmkY tut to share my wifi to my rasp pi through ethernet; but it id not working. What am i doing wrong?
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[10:05] <SohamG> Is there any way to convert a html5 template to a WP theme?
[10:06] <Red_Onyx> can you run WP in a Raspberry?
[10:06] <SohamG> YES!! you can indeed...i am doing that
[10:07] <SohamG> just it may have trouble writing the wp-config.php , in that case itll give you the data for the file and ask you to create it
[10:07] <SohamG> Red_0nyx, ^
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[11:00] <Red_Onyx> oh okay, thanks Soham
[11:01] <u-ou> hi Red_Onyx
[11:01] <Red_Onyx> hi u-ou
[11:02] <u-ou> zup
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[11:05] <Red_Onyx> I am fine. Becoming an Arduino/Raspberry fan
[11:06] <u-ou> :)
[11:06] <u-ou> ya, i got a raspberry pi
[11:06] <u-ou> no arduino yet tho
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[11:19] <SohamG> np Red_0nyx :)
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[11:52] <ybon> [Saint], shiftplusone: I've got a multimeter :)
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[11:55] <u-ou> when you press 1 on NOOBS and it asks if you want to make 'preferred hdmi mode' (iirc) permanent, does that apply to installed, and yet-to-install, operating systems, or just NOOBS?
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[12:03] <Red_Onyx> geez, I need to buy a multimeter, ybon
[12:03] <Red_Onyx> mine barely works
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[12:43] <linuxgeek> hi all
[12:44] <linuxgeek> i am facing horrible latencies on ethernet on local network
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[12:44] <linuxgeek> it jumps from 100ms to 2000ms and then drops back
[12:46] <linuxgeek> i have changed the cable , changed the switch port
[12:47] <pksato> not rpi hosts have a low ping time?
[12:48] <linuxgeek> yup
[12:48] <pksato> have packet loss?
[12:48] <linuxgeek> less than 1ms to most
[12:48] <linuxgeek> yes random packet loss and buffering , seems like buffering
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[12:48] <linuxgeek> actually no packet loss , mostly buffers
[12:49] <linuxgeek> pksato http://pastebin.com/2ZbYzhtY
[12:49] <pksato> have a good power supply?
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[12:49] <linuxgeek> yup , i even changed those , tested the voltage
[12:50] <linuxgeek> changed sd cards
[12:50] <pksato> and, correct ip address and netmask?
[12:50] <linuxgeek> reflashed the images
[12:50] <linuxgeek> yup
[12:50] <pksato> sure?
[12:50] <pksato> not have firewall on 192.168.88.244?
[12:50] <linuxgeek> yup, pretty sure
[12:50] <linuxgeek> none , iptables is turned off
[12:52] <pksato> cable is short or long?
[12:53] <linuxgeek> 192.168.88.244 is the pi btw , i am pinging it from my desktop connected to the same switch on ethernet - cable is extremely short - i moved the pi next to the switch to test
[12:53] <linuxgeek> http://pastebin.com/3jHi69U9
[12:54] <pksato> cable need to have 1m or more.
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[12:54] <linuxgeek> its a prefab cable - 6 feet
[12:55] <linuxgeek> so ~2 m i think
[12:55] <pksato> In fact, not have minimun lenght, but, on some case, very short cable not work as expected.
[12:55] <pksato> ok.
[12:55] <pksato> rpi is not overload?
[12:56] <pksato> or have others usb devices pluged.
[12:56] <linuxgeek> none , no usb devices , i use it as an airplay receiver - which i turned off also
[12:58] <pksato> no clue...
[12:58] <linuxgeek> thanks for listening
[12:58] <linuxgeek> i am thinking of buying another pi to test
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[13:10] <attah> Hi guys! I'm looking at using the timer compare interrupts in Linux.. but all i can seem to find are bare-metal examples. Has anyone done this, or is it just a bad idea?
[13:10] <ybon> Anyone knows how can I check that the power is enough, once plugged in? (with a multimeter)
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[13:10] <attah> ybon: when it draws too much current the voltage drops
[13:11] <ShorTie> volts or amp and what model ??
[13:11] <attah> so I'd do it on the 5v pin on the gpio
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[13:12] <ybon> Model is B I think
[13:12] <ybon> the one with normal SD card
[13:12] <ybon> the thing is that when I plug it with an SD with Volumio, it's stuck on the red light
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[13:12] <ShorTie> ok, then it's measure between tp1-tp2
[13:12] <ybon> so I've been told that this is certainly because it doesn't have enough power
[13:13] <Balzy> Hello, I'm trying to overclock a B Pi and I'm trying to achieve the highest performance without stability issues. I've mounted two
[13:13] <ShorTie> just a red light ??
[13:13] <ybon> yes
[13:13] <ybon> with two quick ACT light at the beginning
[13:13] <ybon> then nothing
[13:13] <ShorTie> that i think normally is a bad image or write of image
[13:14] <ybon> 5.32 between tp1 and tp2
[13:14] <ybon> I guess it's OK?
[13:15] <ShorTie> that is real high, think like 5.2 is max
[13:15] <ybon> ah
[13:15] <ybon> let me try with another adapter
[13:15] <ShorTie> what soes your power supply say that it outputs ??
[13:16] <ybon> soes?
[13:16] <ShorTie> does*
[13:16] <ShorTie> kitty was in the way, lol.
[13:16] <ybon> it says 5V
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[13:17] <attah> ybon: well.. the important thing is what happens when it attempts to start rather than sitting idle..
[13:17] <ybon> 5.05 with my Nexus4 adapter
[13:17] <ShorTie> hmmm, meter might be off little
[13:17] <attah> ybon: and does it work with that?
[13:17] <ybon> attah: humm, not sure what you mean
[13:17] <ybon> attah: no
[13:18] <ybon> I mean, only red light
[13:18] <attah> ybon: how much stuff do you have plugged in anyway?
[13:18] <ybon> nothing
[13:18] <attah> in the pi that is
[13:18] <attah> then anything rated at 1A should more than do it
[13:18] <attah> some at 500mA will even work.. but not recommended
[13:19] <ybon> 1.2A says my Nexus4 adapter
[13:19] <attah> plenty..
[13:19] <ybon> and same for the Aukru one
[13:20] <ShorTie> try a different image
[13:20] <ybon> I've tried the NOOBS one, without success
[13:20] <ybon> I've dl also a raspbian image, I can try this one too
[13:20] <ShorTie> how are you getting the image on the sdcard ??
[13:21] <ybon> using dd
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[13:21] <ybon> at least, for the Volumio image
[13:21] <ybon> I think NOOBS was just a copy
[13:22] <ShorTie> what mian os ??
[13:22] <ybon> what is the recommended FS type for the card?
[13:22] <ybon> mian os?
[13:22] <ShorTie> any images from here ?? http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[13:22] <ShorTie> ya, the pc your trying to write the image from
[13:22] <ybon> I'm on Ubuntu
[13:23] <Balzy> Error: Next message unexpectedly corrupted in mbox file /var/mail/stefano at 649769
[13:23] <Balzy> Hello, I'm trying to overclock a B+ Pi and I'm trying to achieve the highest performance without stability issues. I've mounted two heatsinks to keep temperature at reasonable levels and I�m running this config right now: http://gw.gd/4NjK
[13:23] <Balzy> Would you recommend using force_turbo if temp is kept at reasonable level (around 40-45 �C). Do you think I may experience stability issues or data corruption on the microSD?
[13:23] <ShorTie> dd should work fine if you have the right command then
[13:23] <ybon> I think it was, at least I was able to see all the expected files in there
[13:23] <Balzy> sorry ignore first line
[13:23] <ybon> but let's try again with raspbian
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[13:24] <ShorTie> heat sinks are not needed, power supply stabilaty is the biggest issue with over clocking
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[13:25] <ShorTie> heat sinks just l00k cool, but waste $$ really
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[13:27] <Balzy> ShorTie I mounted them cause the pi will end up a case and I want to be sure it won't heat up too badly
[13:27] <Balzy> right now I'm using a cellphone charger but I'm planning to move to a small made by myself battery ups
[13:27] <ShorTie> but they are still not needed, and i believe you can not even get to the cpu to put 1 on
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[13:28] <ShorTie> the cpu is under the ram i believe
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[13:29] <ybon> Given "/dev/mmcblk0p1 15G 8,0K 15G 1% /media/ybon/RPI", I'm ok with this command line, right? "sudo dd bs=1M if=/home/ybon/Downloads/2014-09-09-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/mmcblk0"
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[13:31] <ShorTie> think so, but not real hip on dd
[13:31] <Balzy> ShorTie I know, anyway got them for 2$ and @ 1.2 GHz with heatsinks the temp reading is the same of 700Mhz without hs
[13:32] <Balzy> Which shouldn't be a bad thing
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[13:32] <ShorTie> when you get above like 85c, then you need to worry i believe
[13:33] <Balzy> ShorTie what I'm a little worried about is the "force_turbo=1" setting, warranty bit apart (which I don't care), do you think it will end up damaging/shortening pi's life?
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[13:36] * Sonny_Jim shrugs
[13:37] <Sonny_Jim> Heat will damage it, plus it's a $35 device
[13:37] <Sonny_Jim> So, personally I wouldn't worry. failure rates aren't exactly high with the pi
[13:37] <ShorTie> any defualt option in config.txt/raspi-conig should be fine
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[13:40] <Balzy> 1.2 GHz is'n exactly among default options but up to now I haven't experienced any problem, going to run some tests
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[13:44] <pksato> ..., means there will be no measurable reduction in the lifetime of your Raspberry Pi. http://www.raspberrypi.org/introducing-turbo-mode-up-to-50-more-performance-for-free/
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[14:38] <frib> for rpi should I use a software compiled for eabi or legacy abi?
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[15:51] <Sonny_Jim> grr
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[15:51] <Sonny_Jim> Y U NO do upnp properly homehub!
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[15:55] <ybon> So, I've bought a new SD card, just in case, installed Raspbian on it, and I'm still stuck with the red light only; any idea how I can investigate further?
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[16:01] <Keanu73> ybon: any green light, too?
[16:01] <Keanu73> is internet in?
[16:01] <ybon> Keanu73: non Ethernet plugged in; only two very quick green ACT light at the beggining, then nothing else
[16:01] <ybon> no*
[16:04] <Bilby> ybon how are you installing the image?
[16:04] <ybon> Bilby: "sudo dd bs=4M if=/home/ybon/Downloads/2014-09-09-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/mmcblk0"
[16:05] <ybon> on a brand new card
[16:05] <ybon> also tested on two others
[16:05] <Bilby> hmm... that looks right, but I've only really done it on windows and osx
[16:05] <ybon> and initially with Volumio img
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[16:26] <efiop> hi! guys, how do i connect to pi over the ethernet?
[16:26] <Romeo-> plug in
[16:26] <efiop> i connect my laptop to pi via ethernet, but how do i access it?
[16:27] <Romeo-> du iu have a dhcp server running?
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[16:27] <efiop> on pi or laptop?
[16:27] <efiop> i need to access pi via ssh
[16:27] <Romeo-> on your network
[16:27] <Romeo-> a router or switch
[16:27] <efiop> i dont need internet on it for now
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[16:27] <Romeo-> heh
[16:28] <efiop> there is raspbian installed on sd
[16:28] <Romeo-> pi on router + laptop on router = ssh from laptop to pi
[16:28] <efiop> i'm trying to just hit connect in the wicd but it doesn't work
[16:28] <efiop> nope, i need the direct access, without router
[16:29] <efiop> not because i want to, there is just no other way for me =)
[16:30] <Romeo-> put laptop and püi on the same network with a crossover ethernet cable
[16:30] <efiop> well, cant pi handle it without crossover? crossover is for an old cards, no?
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[16:31] <Romeo-> what about the rftm ?
[16:32] <efiop> rtfm, i suppose?
[16:32] <kukukuku> :)
[16:32] <efiop> =)
[16:32] <efiop> no?
[16:32] <kukukuku> yep
[16:33] <efiop> well, not very useful
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[16:33] <efiop> well, i mean, useful, but i expected smth else
[16:34] <kukukuku> i didnt see beginning of conversation whats your question?
[16:34] <efiop> kukukuku: the question is how to connect pi and laptop via ethernet.
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[16:34] <efiop> Well, i've tried specifying static ip, and it connected
[16:35] <kukukuku> and?
[16:35] <efiop> sec
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[16:35] <efiop> wait a sec, will try to connect via ssh
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[16:36] <efiop> well, it says connection refused
[16:36] <efiop> but raspbian should start ssh, right?
[16:37] <frib> can anyone recommend a good guide for cross compiling for rpi?
[16:37] <efiop> but ping says that it is talking with pi
[16:37] <kukukuku> sshd should be started
[16:37] <kukukuku> running
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[16:38] <efiop> oh
[16:38] <efiop> i probably using wrong ip =)
[16:38] <ZeeWolf> frib: I was recommended this https://github.com/bmanojlovic/rpi-cross-compile
[16:38] <efiop> i should not use the one i;ve specified, right? =)
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[16:38] <ZeeWolf> didn't test it yet
[16:39] <frib> ZeeWolf, ok thanks
[16:39] <frib> ZeeWolf, but that's a repo .. does it have a guide in it or something?
[16:40] <ZeeWolf> i don't think so, basically if you set up you env. using that script
[16:40] <ZeeWolf> you should be able to compile apps in the same way as you would do on normal rpi
[16:41] <ZeeWolf> I hope it works that way :) grab fresh debian, install listed dependencies and run that install/setup script
[16:42] <ZeeWolf> then any make should produce arm binaries that should work on rpi
[16:42] <ZeeWolf> if you succeed let me know if that worked for you
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[16:43] <frib> ZeeWolf, ok i'll let you know
[16:43] <efiop> kukukuku: i've specified static ip as 192.168.2.2, it connected, ping 192.168.2.2 shows that it works, but ssh pi@192.168.2.2 says connection refused
[16:43] <efiop> strange
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[16:44] <kukukuku> try ssh 192.168.2.2
[16:44] <kukukuku> or ssh -l pi 192.168.2.2 (if the username is pi)
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[16:55] <efiop> kukuku: thats the same as ssh pi@192.168.2.2 =) Nevermind, raspbian asked some initial shit and those required screen. I've hooked it to my dusty unused tv, pushed "FINISH" and it works =)
[16:56] <efiop> kukukuku: ^
[16:56] <efiop> kukukuku: thanks =)
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[17:35] <frib> ZeeWolf, that script is done. I tried to run a make but I don't see any arm binaries. know what's up?
[17:38] <frib> should this work on ubuntu or strictly debian only?https://github.com/bmanojlovic/rpi-cross-compile
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[17:41] <ZeeWolf> frib: I'll try this in a minute
[17:41] <ZeeWolf> on debian
[17:41] <frib> ok i assumed (guess i Shouldn't have) that it would work on ubuntu?
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[17:43] <ZeeWolf> it says it runs on opensuse :)
[17:44] <ZeeWolf> but I hope it works in debian/ubuntu as well
[17:45] <frib> i just don't understand how to use it
[17:45] <frib> i ran the bootstrap script and it finished without problems
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[17:47] <shengtheninja> hm.
[17:47] <shengtheninja> hi
[17:47] <skyroveRR> hm.
[17:47] <skyroveRR> hi
[17:47] <shengtheninja> i cant get my transmission daemon working
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[17:47] <shengtheninja> i followed all the steps
[17:48] * skyroveRR waves the magic wand around shengtheninja to get more details.
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[17:49] <shengtheninja> skyroveRR: :p
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[17:49] <shengtheninja> well i managed to open the web interface but when i select a torrent file and try to upload it nothing happens
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[17:50] <frib> anyone else know how to use this cross compile tool? https://github.com/bmanojlovic/rpi-cross-compile
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[17:51] <Romeo-> frib, get the files an run in on your linux-desktop
[17:52] <frib> Romeo-, i did that
[17:52] <frib> it ran a really long script and then .. ?
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[17:55] <shengtheninja> skyroveRR: any suggestion?
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[17:57] <Romeo-> frib, you chroot for build packages i think, what do you want to to with rpi cross compile? build pi programms
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[18:01] <frib> yeah but i have the source that i need to compile
[18:01] <frib> Romeo-, so how do i compile the source for arm ?
[18:03] <MY123> frib: It works on Ubuntu Server
[18:04] <frib> MY123, how do you use it?
[18:04] <frib> there are no instructions
[18:04] <MY123> frib: You run debootstrap-raspbian-chroot
[18:04] <frib> MY123, i ran it
[18:05] <frib> it's done. now?
[18:05] <MY123> frib: then sudo ./raspbian-run start ; sudo chroot /opt/db_raspbian
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[18:06] <frib> ./raspbian_run: line 15: qemu-binfmt-conf.sh: command not found
[18:07] <frib> anyway... after chroot what do you do?
[18:07] <MY123> frib: You use it normally
[18:07] <MY123> frib: do an uname -a
[18:07] <frib> i have c source code that i need to compile for arm
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[18:08] <MY123> frib: After chroot, you can use it as a Raspbian system.
[18:08] <frib> the uname shows and armv6l cpu
[18:08] <frib> so just go and make as normal/
[18:08] <frib> ?
[18:08] <MY123> frib: yeah
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[18:08] <frib> and now this chroot is treating /opt/db_raspbian as the / of the system?
[18:09] <MY123> frib: Yes
[18:09] <frib> and i can't access the source outside of that dir? i have to move it here?
[18:09] <MY123> frib: Yes
[18:09] <frib> ok
[18:11] <frib> ill try it thanks
[18:12] <frib> vim is not found?
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[18:13] <MY123> frib: apt-get install vim
[18:13] <frib> tried
[18:13] <frib> i used vi instead but strange
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[18:15] <frib> has no installation candidate in apt-get
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[18:15] <frib> maybe needs apt-get update
[18:15] <frib> since it's a "new system"
[18:15] <frib> yep that worked
[18:15] <MY123> frib: It is new
[18:16] <frib> ok i compiled the application now ill test if it works on rpi
[18:17] <frib> runs
[18:18] <MY123> frib: good
[18:19] <Romeo-> right, you'l get it
[18:19] <frib> yessss finally
[18:20] <frib> there is a package called httptunnel in debian repos that is just plain broken... so i had to compile the code from its git which incidentally works
[18:20] <frib> but being that it hasn't been touched in 2 years and uses autoconf and having to do it for arm it took forever
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[18:28] <Romeo-> what about fresh install
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[18:59] <hje841> Through my Gertboard I want to connect a magnetic card reader that is a 5V device. It has 5 pins: 3 data pins and 5V and GND. When I set the Gertboard B1,B2 and B3 as inputs with GND and 5V connected to respective pins, ALL the output LEDS light up. Any idea why?
[18:59] <hje841> I only have B1, B2 and B3 connected to the Pi header at GP25, GP24 and GP23 respectively
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> hje841, the Gertboard is a 3.3v device.
[19:02] <gordonDrogon> however that's not why the LEDs are lighting - they're lighting because they're connected to the outputs if the buffers IIRC. I'd need to check the schematic to be sure.
[19:02] <hje841> gordonDrogon, I know, but the buffered inputs are 5V tolerant
[19:02] <gordonDrogon> sure?
[19:02] <gordonDrogon> I don't recall, but it's been some time since I used mine.
[19:03] <hje841> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=71228&p=516309 <- from the horses mouth :)
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[19:05] <gordonDrogon> hm.
[19:05] <gordonDrogon> I have older ones and didn't think they were.
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[19:06] <hje841> okay, I hope it is as I have no other way of interfacing this card reader with my Pi
[19:06] <gordonDrogon> 74HC244's are what's on mine.
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[19:07] <gordonDrogon> and the data sheet says it's ok. so that's ok then.
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[19:08] <hje841> that's what's on mine as well. :) so now I just need to figure out the ligthing problem
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[19:08] <hje841> actually this is my first project with this board even though I've had it for quite some time now
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> check the schematic - I'm fairly sure they're just connected to the pins, so they'll follow the inputs.
[19:11] <hje841> but all of them?
[19:13] <hje841> when I connect my card readers Vcc to 3.3V at J7 there's nothing, but when I connect it to 5V at J24 they all light up
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[19:26] <hje841> hmm, it seems like I have 1.1V on all the BUFx pins on J10 (That's the connections on the far said of the Gertboard) when I've connected the card reader to 3.3V
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[19:40] <hje841> now I've removed all connections and when I test the inputs with my multimeter set to LED-test all the LEDs light up briefly. no matter what input I test they all light up :(
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[19:51] <hottentott> Does anybody have an idea for how you can monitor (and re-route) your lan network with the pi?
[19:53] <Sonny_Jim> There's a couple of ways
[19:53] <Sonny_Jim> One is to set the default gateway to be your Pi
[19:53] <hottentott> okay
[19:53] <hottentott> ...
[19:54] <Sonny_Jim> The other is to physically put your Pi between the router and the network, which may or may not be possible depending if you have a combined router/wireless AP
[19:54] <hottentott> okay
[19:54] <Sonny_Jim> The first method only requires one network interface, the second requires two
[19:54] <Sonny_Jim> Both methods require setting up iptables
[19:55] <hottentott> the easiest then is maybe to set the pi to the standard gateway, and capture the packages coming throught?
[19:55] <Sonny_Jim> If you just want to monitor traffic flow you can do that quite easily with things like ngrep/iptraf
[19:56] <hottentott> i actually want to monitor my other computer to check how much data it's actually retrieving:-P
[19:56] <hottentott> because it says that it is not connected to the network or using the network, but as you see. i am able to connect to etc, freenode.
[20:00] <hottentott> Thanks :-)
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[20:17] <codepython777> whats a good ups for the pi that will drive it for 2 hours? Lightweight and small are my main concerns.
[20:18] <abnormal> you a battery?
[20:19] <abnormal> you mean a battery?
[20:20] <codepython777> yes
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[20:21] <codepython777> abnormal: yes
[20:21] <abnormal> look in Adafruit.com or Newark.com, or Digikey.com
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[20:22] <abnormal> some are quite powerful and will last about 10 hours... per charge...
[20:22] <winlu> is smoldering an option, 2hours is archiveable with a few aaa batteries
[20:22] <codepython777> abnormal: Any chance I can buy something that will run my pi as well as odroid xu3 - rated at 5V 4A
[20:23] <abnormal> yes a motorcycle battery with a voltage regulator... lol
[20:23] <codepython777> rpi = 5V and 1.2A, right?
[20:23] <abnormal> they are rated at 7AH...
[20:23] <abnormal> yes
[20:24] <abnormal> with everything hooked to the pi, yes
[20:25] <codepython777> I guess for 5V 4A I'll have to cook up something of my own based on a power pack. 1.2A sounds more doable.
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[20:27] <abnormal> well there are a lot of phone charging portable battery units that you can use as a power source, so it's just a matter of searching for what you really want...
[20:28] <codepython777> abnormal: I would like to optimize weight and can even live with something that will last < hour.
[20:28] <codepython777> abnormal: http://www.dx.com/p/rechargeable-9000mah-li-ion-emergency-power-battery-for-camcorder-walkie-talkie-camera-more-73774#.VFU0W4eJlHg - looks like an overkill
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[20:29] <codepython777> abnormal: http://www.ebay.com/itm/130808928109?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 - perhaps this one
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[20:30] <abnormal> yes they will do it... sometimes laptop batteries will work...
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[20:30] <codepython777> abnormal: any idea how long will it last at 5V 4A?
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[20:54] <abnormal> codepython777, probably about 2 hrs or more, depending on how much the draw is...
[20:54] <codepython777> abnormal: Thanks
[20:54] <abnormal> you are welcome.
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[22:27] <Darkwell> hey there
[22:27] <Darkwell> anyone been running deluged with deluge-web on the rpi ?
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[22:30] <Darkwell> seem to have probs with the deluged shutting down after a short while when adding a torrent from transroid... havent tried to use the web interface from a computer so dont know if uts because of transdroid use or not
[22:30] <Darkwell> but the delugedstops and i have to retart the server and reconnect in deluge-web
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[23:07] <niston> LM2678 does 5Amps @ 5V
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[23:13] <methuzla> anyone have suggestions for auto powering down a pi?
[23:13] <methuzla> like sudo shutdown
[23:13] <methuzla> but power is also off
[23:13] <niston> needs external hardware
[23:13] * Sonny_Jim nods
[23:14] <niston> such as PiSupply
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[23:17] <methuzla> this? http://www.pi-supply.com/product/pi-supply-raspberry-pi-power-switch/
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[23:18] <niston> yep
[23:18] <niston> you could also build your own
[23:19] <niston> what you need is basically a way to have a gpio pin cut power to the pi
[23:19] <niston> ie gpio->transistor->relay
[23:20] <niston> but at £15, you might just as well grab one of them.
[23:20] <methuzla> how does it work on the software side? how/what/when alters the GPIO to finally cut power?
[23:21] <niston> presumably an initd script
[23:21] <niston> set GPIO n to high on reaching runlevel 0.
[23:22] <Sonny_Jim> Heh
[23:23] <Sonny_Jim> day 2 of the MAME/MESS compile, it's still going
[23:23] <niston> lol
[23:23] <Sonny_Jim> It's on things named F at the moment
[23:25] <Sonny_Jim> Also I'm compiling UME, which is MAME and MESS combined, so it'll support something like 4,000 MAME games, plus about 200 computer/console systems
[23:25] <niston> in two to three months perhaps :P
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> Last time it took about 3-4 days iirc
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> I'm hoping for slightly better performance this time as SDL2 now supports hw video acceleration
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[23:29] <methuzla> PiSupply - doesn't look likes it's a gpio OUT killing power
[23:29] <methuzla> the gpio is an IN to just run "halt"
[23:29] <methuzla> then a capacitor discharges (somehow?) and ~two minutes later power is cut
[23:31] * gordonDrogon waves.
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> hey govg
[23:31] <gordonDrogon> just seen this: http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20141101_202412.jpg
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> Err, gordonDrogon
[23:31] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20141101_201726.jpg
[23:31] <dkog> there are other solutions I've seen that safely shut down the Pi based on a button press. Pi Supply doesn't do that
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[23:32] <gordonDrogon> Hm. one day I'll finish the officially sanctioned wiringPi way of halting a pi when you push a button...
[23:32] <gordonDrogon> actually, it's a one-liner in a shell script, but hey ho ...
[23:32] <methuzla> halting no problem
[23:32] <methuzla> but how to cut power
[23:33] <gordonDrogon> you can sense the Tx output pin. when it goes off then your little circuit can remove power.
[23:33] <gordonDrogon> it's normaly high when the Pi is running.
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[23:34] <gordonDrogon> assuming you never use that pin, that is.
[23:36] <methuzla> Tx = GPIO 14 (BCM) ?
[23:38] <methuzla> also, the application I'm thinking of would be headless battery powered things without network
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> yes, 14.
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[23:40] <gordonDrogon> so you'll need some circuitry or a microcontroller to handle it - I've seen a solution with an attiny 85
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> but it was doing other stuff too.
[23:40] <dkog> methuzla: check this out: http://www.pi-supply.com/product/upis-basic-uninterruptable-power-intelligent-supply/
[23:41] <methuzla> is that a special behavior of that pin, or would the other GPIOs act similarly?
[23:42] <CoJaBo> dkog: those are like $10 on Amazon
[23:42] <CoJaBo> dkog: with 48+ hour battery life
[23:42] <dkog> link?
[23:43] <CoJaBo> any USB battery pack
[23:43] <dkog> CoJaBo: not true, I have a random USB battery pack from good manufacturer, and it produces dirty low V power
[23:43] <CoJaBo> the link is on the laptop, and that's like 500 miles away..
[23:44] <CoJaBo> the one i got was an off-brand. its rock solid
[23:44] <dkog> those random batteries are good for charging phones, not so much for running pi
[23:44] <dkog> well you must have better luck them I :)
[23:44] <CoJaBo> it runs it better than my Motorola and Samsung power adaptors
[23:45] <CoJaBo> dkog: pink me a week from now and I'll send you the link
[23:45] <CoJaBo> ping*
[23:45] <dkog> I got a 6000mAh one, maybe the Pi drew too hard on it and a bigger one would be smoother
[23:47] <dkog> it was rainbow square undervolt city when I had my wifi dongle in
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[23:57] <Darkwell> still probs to poll gpio pins to makw a shutdown -h now ?????

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