#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-11-02

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[0:01] <methuzla> Darkwell: not sure I follow you. could either poll pins or setup a callback (use interrupts)
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[0:04] <methuzla> dkog: UPiS looks interesting but maybe a bit overkill for what I'm thinking. thanks for the info.
[0:09] <Sonny_Jim> The Pi should regulate/clean up the power going into it
[0:09] <Sonny_Jim> Unless you are powering it through the GPIO header
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[0:13] <dkog> The Pi is very fickle with power going into it
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[0:13] <dkog> and B+ GPU now flashes a rainbow square on the display for several seconds every time it feels like it didn't get enough power for an instant
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[0:17] <Sonny_Jim> tbh I've never had any power related problems
[0:17] <Sonny_Jim> SD corruption, ooh had loads of that
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[0:20] <dkog> I'm working on read-only Raspbian modifications
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[0:20] <dkog> to avoid sd corruption and enable pulling power
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[0:29] <Sonny_Jim> I need to do that at some point
[0:29] <dkog> I will probably open source my work if there is interest
[0:31] <dkog> I'm scripting it so you can flash a new Raspbian image, connect Pi to LAN, then run my script from another machine, and it does everything to set up the new Pi as read-only
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[0:38] <[Saint]> dkog: instead of that, you can give it enough juice with a few caps to do a forced safe shutdown on poweroff.
[0:38] <[Saint]> a very small amount of additional hardware can achieve such a setup.
[0:38] <dkog> [Saint]: I'm of the opinion that an "appliance" shouldn't be modifying its own state, ever
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[0:39] <[Saint]> I'm not sure changing the way its oerating system functions on an extremely low level is any better.,
[0:40] <[Saint]> Above option has the benefit of "Just Working", on any distro.
[0:40] <dkog> I mostly agree, and I wouldn't say what I'm doing is on an extremely low level. I.e. not changing kernel
[0:40] <[Saint]> You really don't need to store much energy at all to facillitate a clean shutdown.
[0:41] <[Saint]> Anyway, I myself, handle this at a hardware level. OS doesn't care in the slightest.
[0:42] <[Saint]> After poweroff its got about 6~7 seconds to figure it out and force a (probably) safe shutdown.
[0:42] * [Saint] notes that this is for the ones that don't live off the actual dedicated UPS
[0:43] <dkog> Cool that you got that working! But I'm going for a solution that a) requires no extra HW (cost/complexity reasons), and b) solves the SD corruption problem but also adheres to the "appliances shouldn't self-modify" philosophy
[0:44] <dkog> "The toaster keeps burning my toast. Did somebody forget to shut it down safely last week?"
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[0:54] <niston> hmmm
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[0:55] <niston> for building a compute module cluster, you could probably set up an FPGA so that it emulates a dedicated USB ethernet interface for each connected CM, while providing either a single or dual "real" GigE or 10GigE ethernet to the outside.
[0:55] <niston> the FPGA would also have to serve as an inter CM switch.
[0:55] <niston> hmmmmm
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[0:56] <niston> this could mean cheap HA hosting
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[1:20] <abnormal> http://www.enclustra.com/en/products/system-on-chip-modules/mars-zx3/
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[1:23] <niston> heh, all the drawing in eagle made me unable to use the windows GUI in normal ways
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[1:30] <Sonny_Jim> Ctrl-right click to move
[1:30] <Sonny_Jim> ......
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[1:32] <niston> yeah
[1:32] <niston> -.-
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[1:37] <abnormal> well?
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[1:52] <niston> ?
[1:56] <abnormal> did it work?
[1:58] <niston> did what work?
[2:00] <abnormal> whatever you were doing...
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[2:03] <[Saint]> niston: Just smile and nod politely.
[2:03] <[Saint]> Don't maintain eye contact, its a sign of aggression.
[2:07] <abnormal> lol, you dog, [Saint]
[2:11] <niston> heh
[2:11] <niston> not done
[2:12] <abnormal> of course
[2:12] <abnormal> be a long time until you are done... real long time
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[2:28] <niston> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=90633
[2:28] <niston> heh
[2:30] <niston> could downscale it to 2 GigE
[2:30] <niston> should go nicely with 4 CMs
[2:31] <niston> but in the end you would want as much of them on a single board as possible
[2:31] <niston> for super low power high available linux servers.
[2:31] <abnormal> just buy a Aleinware...
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[2:39] <kenrestivo> building a kernel from the git tree, which tag represents the RELEASED raspbian pi kernel in 2014-09-09 image, i.e. 3.12?
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[2:42] <plugwash> I don't think there is a tag as such
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[2:44] <plugwash> the kernel included in the image is provided by the package raspberrypi-bootloader, you should be able to look at the changelog for that package (/usr/share/doc/raspberrypi-bootloader/changelog.Debian.gz iirc) and find a git commit ID for the raspberrypi/firmware repo
[2:44] <plugwash> in the raspberrypi/firmware repo you will find a file called extra/git_hash, this is a commit ID for the raspberrypi/linux repo
[2:45] <kenrestivo> that's it, thanks
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[5:14] <jeffreylevesque> can I boot my pi from a USB?
[5:15] <abnormal> sure
[5:15] <jeffreylevesque> instead of the SD card?
[5:15] <abnormal> Sd card is almost like a USB stick...
[5:16] <jeffreylevesque> but, how can I change the boot location from SD card to USB?
[5:16] <abnormal> some ppl have done it, but I have not done it.. so I don't know how to do it tho...
[5:16] <[Saint]> /boot/config.txt'
[5:16] <[Saint]> change the boot path to point to USB, done.
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[5:16] <abnormal> thank you [Saint]
[5:16] <jeffreylevesque> thank you
[5:17] <jeffreylevesque> where is that config.txt file located?
[5:17] <[Saint]> see above
[5:17] <[Saint]> /boot/config.txt
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[5:17] <jeffreylevesque> will i need the SD card plugged in, in order to boot from USB?
[5:17] <[Saint]> Yes.
[5:18] <jeffreylevesque> thank you very much
[5:18] <[Saint]> The /boot partition always resides on the sdcard.
[5:18] <[Saint]> its unavoidable.
[5:18] <[Saint]> blame Broadcomm I guess.
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[5:19] <[Saint]> To make it even more clear, you'll be wanting to change cmdline.txt from config.txt from root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 to root=/dev/sda2
[5:20] <[Saint]> you'll also need to ensure that the USB disk actually has an image on it.
[5:20] <[Saint]> Note that I made it sda2 because I figure you'll just be copying a full image to the USB disk instead of just the root partition image.
[5:20] <[Saint]> If there's only a single image on USB, it'll be sda1
[5:21] <jeffreylevesque> thank you, sir
[5:22] <[Saint]> also note that this will break raspi-config's ability to expand the root partition.
[5:22] <[Saint]> (because its slightly stupid and always assumes a fixed location)
[5:23] * [Saint] has a large list of stupid things like that that he should get around to fixing
[5:23] <jeffreylevesque> so, my Raspbian OS has the file you mentioned of. Is the /boot/config.txt a linux standard - for example, if i was running Ubuntu instead of raspbian?
[5:25] <[Saint]> Regardless of the distribution, you would be using the same kernel, so, yes. Lets call it a standard, but not a Linux one, just a raspberrypi one.
[5:26] <[Saint]> ALso - while it /is/ possible to run Ubuntu on a raspberrypi - don't.
[5:26] <[Saint]> The last Ubuntu version that officially supported an architecture that will actually run on a pi is about 4 years old.
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[5:27] <[Saint]> ARMv5 support ended in Karmic
[5:27] <[Saint]> Or was it Jaunty?
[5:27] <[Saint]> Either way - don't. :)
[5:27] <jeffreylevesque> Thank you, I was about to try Ubuntu Serfer 14.04 on the Pi
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[5:28] <[Saint]> I assure you you were not.
[5:28] <[Saint]> Or, if you were, you have some serious misgivings about how this works.
[5:30] <abnormal> wow, lol
[5:31] <abnormal> that's pretty deep, man... lol
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[5:32] <[Saint]> Even if we assumed that a modern Ubuntu distribution could work on a raspiberrypi..you wouldn't /want/ it to.
[5:32] <RPG-Master> Anyone here using RetroPie?
[5:32] <[Saint]> Its slow enough as it is.
[5:32] <[Saint]> Let alone bogging it down with that hideous wench Unity.
[5:32] <abnormal> true...
[5:34] <RPG-Master> [Hey, I like Unity, many others do too. :P
[5:34] <[Saint]> Not on a 900MHz ARMv6 w/ 512MB RAM you don't. :)
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[5:36] <RPG-Master> [Saint]: Oh yeah, wouldn't even think to try it. :P
[5:39] <abnormal> you might try MS Dos ver 1.0 if you are lucky... lol
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[5:54] <jeffreylevesque> [Saint]: according to ubuntu server (CLI) requirements, all that's needed is 300 MHz processor, 192 MB of ram - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[5:55] <[Saint]> jeffreylevesque: Ok - I'll give you that, it is non-obvious, but the raspberrypi uses an unsupported architecture.
[5:57] <[Saint]> If you continue reading the link you supplied, you'll note that the minimum requirements FAR exceed the raspberrypi.
[5:57] <[Saint]> Even if the architecture was supported.
[5:57] <abnormal> jeffreylevesque, the pi's processor is totally different than the laptops and desktops processors. no two are compatible... period...
[5:58] <abnormal> as the distros made for laptops and desktops are made for them, the pi's distros are made for the pi...
[5:59] <abnormal> two whole different worlds there...
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[6:00] <jeffreylevesque> the previous link i sent was premised on ubuntu 12.04 - https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/preparing-to-install.html
[6:00] <jeffreylevesque> and, I said that I wanted Ubuntu 14.04 - https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/preparing-to-install.html
[6:00] <jeffreylevesque> which demands even more
[6:02] <[Saint]> It really doesn't matter, honestly, its not going to happen.
[6:02] <[Saint]> If you want to run Ubuntu, either go back in time 4~5 years, or buy an actual computer.
[6:03] * [Saint] notes that going back in time also means you'll have no pi to run the distro that would actually technically be compatible, so...yay, square one!
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[6:08] <jeffreylevesque> thank you guys
[6:13] <abnormal> jeffreylevesque, apple OS won't work in MS computers, MS OS won't work in Apple computers, same as Baeglebone Black, the TI people made the OS for Beaglebone Black and is different than pi, Pi people made the pi OS for pi and won't work in Beaglebone Black. all different chips in each of those. Intel makes different chips for Apple and MS computers, same as AMD, they make different chips for MS and Apple and same in TI, they make d
[6:13] <abnormal> ifferent chips for pi and Beaglebone Black. Broadcom is a subsidy of TI now. TI makes a lot of ARM chips to each an every company that asks TI to manufacture.
[6:17] <[Saint]> Errrr...that's...close...but, no.
[6:18] <[Saint]> Mircrosoft, Apple, whetever, its irrelevant.
[6:18] <[Saint]> Its The architecture that is relevant.
[6:19] <abnormal> yes, dear.. I know what you are reffering to.. still each chip design is different...
[6:19] <[Saint]> ie. ARM, aarch64, x86, etc.
[6:19] <[Saint]> That's quite wildly untrue.
[6:20] <abnormal> ok I give up...
[6:20] <[Saint]> Please do because its embarrasing.
[6:20] <abnormal> ok will do sir... yes sir... bye
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[6:21] <Sonny_Jim> that was weird
[6:21] <phire> " MS OS won't work in Apple computers" -- Actually it does
[6:21] <Sonny_Jim> bit I guess it was an apt nick
[6:22] <niston> Sonny_Jim
[6:22] <niston> Eagle connects the airwires the wrong way!
[6:23] <Sonny_Jim> airwires?
[6:23] <niston> whut to do? \:o/
[6:23] <niston> luftlinien
[6:23] <niston> airwires
[6:23] <niston> thingies
[6:24] <[Saint]> 99 lftballons?
[6:25] * [Saint] throws a u up there somewhere
[6:25] <[Saint]> ...with umlauts, 'cos, metal.
[6:25] <niston> nena? metal? >o_0<
[6:25] <Sonny_Jim> I have no idea what airwires are
[6:26] <Sonny_Jim> do you mean aerial?
[6:26] <niston> Sonny_Jim: you don't use Eagle?
[6:26] <[Saint]> Apparently not.
[6:26] <Sonny_Jim> I have used it briefly
[6:26] <niston> I was mistaken then.
[6:26] <niston> its the unrouted connections
[6:26] <niston> before you lay down a trace
[6:26] <Sonny_Jim> riiight
[6:26] <argakiig> woooh just got my rpi in today
[6:27] <argakiig> seeing something strange though
[6:27] <argakiig> getting random seg faults
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[6:35] <[Saint]> niston: http://www.youtube.com/v/ZJIDWUQ_rNs
[6:35] <[Saint]> 'cos...metal
[6:36] * [Saint] is not surprised at all by how easy it was to find a cover of that
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[6:45] <Bhaal> Anyone know if the foundation camera modules have a serial number we can use to identify invdividual cameras?
[6:46] <Bhaal> individual
[6:46] <[Saint]> That would surprise me greatly.
[6:47] <[Saint]> I don't know for certain either way, but I would be tremendously surprised if they were uniquely identifiable
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[6:53] <dkog> well there are serial numbers that could be on the boards visible to human eye, and then there are serial numbers that might be encoded in all images captured
[6:53] <dkog> which are you asking about?
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[6:56] <[Saint]> Jeeeez...
[6:56] * [Saint] puts the kitties in detention
[6:57] <[Saint]> 'lil buggers have wiped out _so_ many birds the past few days.
[6:57] <[Saint]> I really need to get my smarter smart cat door figured out
[6:58] <[Saint]> But trying to tech opencv what a cat with prey looks like is...daunting.
[6:58] <[Saint]> It has zero problems figuring out the cat part.
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[6:58] <[Saint]> opencv is disturbingly good at looking for kitties.
[6:58] <[Saint]> 'cos, Internet, I presume.
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[7:08] <Bhaal> dkog: Ummm, preferrably software wise... So if I have to identify an image I wouldn't mind...
[7:08] <Bhaal> Gawd I wish the a/d gains would sit still
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[8:16] <kenrestivo> well that was exciting
[8:16] <kenrestivo> spent a few hours setting up a pi nicely. plugged in a wifi usb card.
[8:16] <kenrestivo> and my mmc card lost its root partition!
[8:17] <kenrestivo> mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data, sector 15523584, nr 8, cmd response 0x900, card status 0x80000
[8:17] <kenrestivo> mmc0: Timeout waiting for hardware interrupt.
[8:17] <kenrestivo> and... putting the card into a usb reader, the 2nd partition is totally blown away. only the boot partition remains.
[8:20] <kenrestivo> i think i've had enough with kernel 3.12.31+. that was fun, but i don't need this kind of excitement. whoohoo, all my work is gone!
[8:22] <[Saint]> kenrestivo: that sounds very much like a brownout
[8:22] <[Saint]> (IOW: power dropped so low during plugging the wireless adapter the system shat itself)
[8:28] <[Saint]> Ways to avoid this include:
[8:28] <[Saint]> using a decent power supply
[8:28] <[Saint]> adding a couple of fat caps to the power rail
[8:29] <[Saint]> making sure peripheraps are plugged _before_ powering on
[8:29] <[Saint]> *peripherals
[8:29] <[Saint]> One may note the latter is the easiest, and cheapest, option.
[8:30] <niston> I'll have the fap cap pls
[8:30] <niston> thank you
[8:30] <[Saint]> IS that a hat you where when y...uhhhhh, nevermind
[8:30] <niston> haha xD
[8:30] <skyroveRR> lol
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[8:58] <GIANT_CRAB> oh man, i love these amazon sellers
[8:58] <GIANT_CRAB> 70$ to ship a picamera
[8:59] <GIANT_CRAB> pimorini shop offers 5 GBP international shipping
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[9:59] <kenrestivo> yep, i'm using a decent power supply. will try the, uh, cap. what do you consider, uh, fat? 47uF electrolytic?
[10:00] <kenrestivo> i'm going to try to run a fbtft. i hope that doesn't brown the thing out.
[10:01] <kenrestivo> finally, why does the system corrupt data when power drops? why doesn't it shut itself down? a decent PMC chip would do that
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[10:01] <kenrestivo> hell an atmel microcontroller has brown out detection.
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[10:02] <ShorTie> heck*
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[10:04] <ShorTie> the system does not always know what the sdcard is doing, if it is checking it's self, nothing you can do about it really
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[10:23] <Gorroth> so
[10:23] <Gorroth> how come the man rpi website doesn't link to the wiki?
[10:23] <Gorroth> i thought there was one at least
[10:27] <Gorroth> i was trying to figure out about the port that the camera can use. i didn't know if the other similar-looking port was the same or not
[10:27] <Gorroth> finally found that it's not
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[11:04] <Bhaal> Why doesn't hard setting the ISO to 100 still not lock the a/d gains???
[11:04] <Bhaal> very annoying :/
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[11:21] <AviiNL> hi all, i installed http://www.binaryemotions.com/raspberry-slideshow/ on my raspberry pi, it bootds straight to X, but I need to get back to console, C+A+F1-F12 does not work.. is there any way i can start xterm or something from a clean x? no window manager, it starts a custom chromium build or something without navigationbar etc.
[11:21] <AviiNL> C+A+Backspace also does not work
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[11:23] <dkog> AviiNL: what does C+A+DEL do?
[11:23] <AviiNL> nothing
[11:23] <dkog> can you SSH into it from another machine maybe?
[11:23] <AviiNL> nope, ssh is not installed/enabled
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[11:24] <AviiNL> thats what i want to install
[11:24] <AviiNL> but can't get out of x right now
[11:24] <AviiNL> isnt there anyway to intercept it on boot or something
[11:24] <AviiNL> like, ctrl+c timed correctly
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[11:40] <ShorTie> do you still want raspberry-slideshow to run ??
[11:41] <AviiNL> later yea :p
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[11:42] <AviiNL> after configuring it
[11:44] <ShorTie> need to look how it autostarts, disable it, configure, then re-enble it
[11:44] <ShorTie> sure you can not ssh in from another pc and configure it like dkog was asking
[11:45] <ShorTie> is this raspbian or some other os ??
[11:47] <ShorTie> oh, a different os like
[11:47] <ShorTie> it has how to configure iy on the download page, http://www.binaryemotions.com/raspberry-slideshow/download.html
[11:48] <ShorTie> it*
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[13:08] <Mixxit> hey guys i wondered if anyone has some time to go through setting up a 3g modem on my pi
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[13:09] <darkavenger> hi, as far as you know does the b+ model have better perfomances than the b(512mb) model? or the only difference is about more usb port,camera connections etc..?
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[13:10] <gordonDrogon> the cpu, memory, speed, etc. is identical to the B
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> it may be more stable at overclocking, but that's only because the power circuitry has been improved.
[13:11] <darkavenger> k
[13:11] <darkavenger> ty
[13:12] <darkavenger> can i use the same power adapter?
[13:12] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[13:12] <darkavenger> 5v 2000mah
[13:12] <darkavenger> k
[13:12] <darkavenger> ty
[13:12] <gordonDrogon> as long as you're confident it's genuine 2A supply - else you'll still have issues powering more USB devices. However the B+ has an under-voltage indicator.
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[13:16] <darkavenger> the power supply is original by raspberry
[13:16] <darkavenger> it has the logo on
[13:16] <darkavenger> i bought it in kit with the rasp
[13:16] <darkavenger> so i'm confident about it
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> ok. it'll be a good one then.
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> sadly, a lot just aren't up to it, even though they're marked 2A.
[13:17] <darkavenger> i was very unlucky with my rasp
[13:18] <darkavenger> i bought it on pre order
[13:18] <darkavenger> and it's the very first model
[13:18] <darkavenger> only 256mb
[13:18] <darkavenger> so i have to upgrade to the b+
[13:18] <darkavenger> cause i want to stream games with limelight on it
[13:18] <darkavenger> i'll have to find a new function to the old model now
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[13:20] <gordonDrogon> I have one of those too. still use it for devleopment.
[13:20] <Mixxit> anyone had any luck connecting to a 3g modem (alcatel y855) with the usb cable rather than wifi
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[13:21] <Mixxit> i see the device in lsusb but not as a network device (ie usb0) like my other dongles
[13:21] <gordonDrogon> can you stream limelight games to/from a Pi?
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[13:21] <gordonDrogon> Mixxit, usually there will be a /dev/ttyACM* device (maybe /dev/ttyUSB*) which you talk to via pppd, etc.
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> although some newer devices use the wlan drivers (which I've no experience of)
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> wlan != wifi
[13:23] <Mixxit> its a modem but it acts as a virtual router
[13:23] <Mixxit> ie i dont usually have to configure dial settings it does that for me
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[13:27] <gordonDrogon> ok. wounds like a wlan device then.
[13:28] <Mixxit> so i have two options basically 1) connect it to my pc and use 3g over usb or 2) connect to its wifi and use 3g over wifi
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[13:28] <Mixxit> if i plug it into windows it will show as a network adapter
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> or see if you can get the drivers for it for the Pi..
[13:30] <Mixxit> (remove ndis based internet sharing device)
[13:30] <Mixxit> thats what im after i think
[13:30] <Mixxit> 1bbb:f000 T & A Mobile Phones
[13:30] <Mixxit> it shows as that in lsusb
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[13:38] <darkavenger> <gordonDrogon> can you stream limelight games to/from a Pi?
[13:38] <darkavenger> yep
[13:38] <darkavenger> limelight-pi
[13:38] <darkavenger> does that
[13:38] <darkavenger> you'll need a series 6XX geforce oe newer
[13:39] <darkavenger> or*
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[13:59] <darkavenger> some part of my house the wifi signal if low, the rasp is connected via eth powerline i want to create an "extension" of my wifi, so the rasp act as an access point but the wifi network has to be identical to the original one so the switch between original and rasp must be transparent
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[14:00] <darkavenger> do you know any tutorial about this?
[14:00] <darkavenger> is very specific and i don't know how to search it
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[14:00] <iceCalt> darkavenger, by extension you mean a signal extender?
[14:00] <Mixxit> got it working =)
[14:00] <darkavenger> yes
[14:00] <Mixxit> i installed usbmode switch and it changed hte device id
[14:00] <Mixxit> im now online using it :)
[14:00] <darkavenger> do you have a tutorial?
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[14:01] <iceCalt> darkavenger, i don't know how it's done. i never had time to do it by a 2nd router, for ex
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[16:06] <meadhikari> guys a novice here, i had a sd card with noobs pre installed, wireless was not working so i tweaked with interface file but now i can not ssh with ethernet too, please help
[16:06] <meadhikari> i now get no route to host
[16:07] <meadhikari> the lan port in blinking
[16:07] <meadhikari> and my router show raspberrypi
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[16:43] <jeffreylevesque> can someone provide me an example of things I could add to my PI on the USB port?
[16:44] <Sonny_Jim> Any USB device that has a Linux driver, basically
[16:44] <jeffreylevesque> I'm writing up a small documentation, and trying to make it sound nice
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[16:46] <ppq> a wifi adapter to set up an AP, a USB missile launcher that can be controlled over a web interface that you write, an FM transmitter to annoy neighbors who listen to fm radio, etc
[16:47] <jeffreylevesque> haha
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[16:47] <VoidFox> uuuh missile launcher.. get the cam and some face recognizing software.. now that would be a sweet project
[16:48] <ppq> image processing on the pi isn't fun, unfortunately
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[16:49] <ppq> face recognition (with low image resolution) has been done though
[16:49] <ppq> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/robot/face_detection/
[16:50] <jeffreylevesque> at some point - i'd like to build a pi that generates data
[16:50] <jeffreylevesque> not sure what yet
[16:50] <jeffreylevesque> but, spits out csv or xml over the web
[16:50] <jeffreylevesque> on a cron job, or perhaps sensor triggered base
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[16:53] <VoidFox> makes me think of a weather station.. yawn
[16:54] <VoidFox> my fav raspi project is still using it to make drones
[16:54] <jeffreylevesque> i was initially thinking of doing that as an exercise - but, i don't want to spend the hours on something unintersiting
[16:55] <VoidFox> drone + face detector + missile... >:)))
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[16:58] <alexxio> hello, i'm wondering how to connecting this display http://www.embeddedartists.com/products/displays/lcd_27_epaper.php to my raspi, someone can have a look?
[16:59] <alexxio> i followed this guide https://learn.adafruit.com/downloads/pdf/repaper-eink-development-board-arm-linux-raspberry-pi-beagle-bone-black.pdf but i don't know if it does fit with device
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[18:47] <gryphraff> Anyone ever had the i2c bus go crazy on a pi and clear up after a long interval of being powered off?
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[18:49] <ShorTie> that sounds more like i2c device problem then bus to me, but i'm not real hip on it all
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[18:50] <gryphraff> I thought so too, but the device is working fine now. Only thing I did other than power off was jiggle connectors.
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[18:51] <ShorTie> jiggly connecting can cause all kinds of unkown/wierd problems
[18:52] <ShorTie> nothing bets good old solder
[18:52] <gryphraff> I need to make an automatic connector jiggler
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[18:53] <ShorTie> i would think a jiggle proof connection would be a whole lot better in the long run
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[18:54] <gryphraff> But there's no fun in that.
[18:54] <ShorTie> true
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[18:55] <gryphraff> One of my winter projects is to get my rack of pi off the phone adapter power supplies and actually make a nice power distribution board. I'll probably take care of soldering the breakout boards then.
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[18:59] <ShorTie> how many you got ??
[19:00] <ShorTie> what about a atx computer power supply if you got many
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[19:01] <gryphraff> I'm running three right now. They all do multiple things, but each has a heavy lifting job. Wx monitor, Cacti, and Smokeping.
[19:03] <gryphraff> I have a nice 5V 7A supply that I'm planning on using for the task.
[19:03] <ShorTie> oh, cool
[19:05] <gryphraff> I chanced across a couple at my job that were shipped, never used, and returned. We can't resell them as new, so they go into a recycle/in-house use bin. I grabbed them before they got recycled.
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[19:36] <abnormal> everyone sleeping?
[19:37] <Encrypt> Nope
[19:37] <abnormal> then make some converstions...
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[19:43] <j416> abnormal: you start
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[19:44] <iTommix> Hi @ all. first question: i have an cberry LCD-Display, compiled kernel and modules as described here https://github.com/u-voelkel/cberryfb/tree/master - everything works... anybody experiences with this? i want to start the output to framebuffer during startup...
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[19:44] <abnormal> ok so what slows down the rpi after a lot of apt-gets?
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[19:45] <j416> abnormal: fatigue?
[19:45] * j416 has no idea
[19:46] <abnormal> well no, just slows down a liitle bit... not really up to par...
[19:46] <abnormal> last nite the cursor changed from like a pipe style to a black retangle.
[19:47] <abnormal> it was spooky
[19:47] <j416> perhaps some background thing running?
[19:47] <abnormal> only Midori
[19:47] <j416> network latency?
[19:47] <abnormal> maybe.
[19:48] <abnormal> I may end up reiinstalling raspbian
[19:48] <j416> I don't use the gui, maybe that has something to do with it.
[19:49] <abnormal> it was real smooth until someone was downloading a lot of stuff, so, I may have to start over again... it was flawless until I started doing funny things to it...lol
[19:50] <abnormal> tried a tube box, you toob stuff and prolly messed it up... lol
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[19:52] <abnormal> I know youtube don't work on my pi... so someone was instructing me on some downloads and or apt-get stuff. so that messed it up quite a bit..
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[19:55] <abnormal> anyways I have quick start board hooked up to it and the parallax app to load code into it... that was ok and stable... may get another arduino uno and hook that up to pi...
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[19:59] <kotopies> Hi! I have a problem with IP negotiation between RPi and Macbook. Can somebody help me?
[20:00] <abnormal> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=37543
[20:01] <abnormal> that should help you a little
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[20:04] <kotopies> Thanks but it's not a problem with ssh :) There is physical connection working and RPi sends some BootP requests but as I understand no address is assigned. Unfortunately I just don't know enough about DHCP to actually understand something from wireshark capture.
[20:05] <kotopies> It look like both - Mac and RPi are acting like DHCP servers
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[20:10] <gryphraff> There's a post on RPi DHCP servers here that may be of help, if your pi is trying to assign addresses: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/22297/disabling-dhcp-server
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[20:20] <kotopies> Thanks! I will look into it. The problem is - I have no external monitor and no means of accessing the Pi other than SSH :)
[20:21] <gordonDrogon> kotopies, can't you ethernet your Pi to the same router your Mac is using?
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[20:23] <kotopies> No :) I use wireless network shared with my neighbours and don't have physical access to it. The only way is to use Thunderbolt<->Ethernet adapter and connect it directly
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[20:25] <gordonDrogon> it's not the only way - you could buy a Wi-Fi client bridge and connect the Pi to that. that's what I'd do.
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[20:28] <kotopies> and that's what I will probably do but I just didn't want to buy another piece of hardware if it could be accessed by ethernet
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[20:29] <kotopies> and additionally it just irks me that I theoretically should be able to do it but cannot
[20:31] <gordonDrogon> I don't know anything about Mac networking. That would be trivial for me to do with a Liunx host though.
[20:31] <abnormal> kotopies, do you have a USB cable to connect the two together?
[20:32] <kotopies> Unfortunately, no
[20:33] <abnormal> ahh.. that's a real miss... you need that to be able to see the pi on the mac...
[20:33] <abnormal> kotopies, is there a dollar store nearby?
[20:35] <kotopies> no
[20:35] <abnormal> well is there any access to get a USB cable nearby?
[20:36] <kotopies> not at this hour ;)
[20:36] <abnormal> even at a 24hr gas station?
[20:37] <kotopies> I don't think any station nearby has USB cables but even if - it's not that urgent matter
[20:37] <kotopies> i will probably try to connect it to some monitor at my university tomorrow
[20:37] <kotopies> thanks for your help
[20:38] <abnormal> ok,,, but that is what you need... is there an HDMI connection on mac?
[20:38] <kotopies> not on macbook air
[20:38] <abnormal> ahh, sorry
[20:38] <abnormal> ok good luck
[20:38] <kotopies> thanks ;)
[20:39] <kotopies> and bye!
[20:39] <abnormal> yw
[20:39] <abnormal> bye
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[20:54] <orogor> hi
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[20:55] <abnormal> hu
[20:55] <abnormal> hi
[20:55] <abnormal> what's up?
[20:56] <gordonDrogon> the sky...
[20:56] <abnormal> yeh... lol
[20:57] <abnormal> and clouds, birds, dust, smog, etc
[20:57] <abnormal> even meteorites...
[20:57] <orogor> anyone has a way to find out whoch movire to copy to a usb drive that would be suppored by the pi ?
[20:58] <orogor> :/ so many typos
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> ?
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> which movie to copy?
[21:00] <orogor> like, use ffmpeg to get the codec used in the movie
[21:00] <orogor> so i dont copy a movie that i won t be able to play
[21:00] * gordonDrogon ponders
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[21:01] <gordonDrogon> you want to copy a movie to a USB drive (from a PC?) then plug that into the Pi and play it?
[21:01] <orogor> yes
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[21:01] <gordonDrogon> the pi supports h264 directly.
[21:01] <orogor> yes , but not only and i bought the additional licences
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> not for the Pi, no.
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[21:02] <gordonDrogon> perhaps for the encoding thing.
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[21:02] <gordonDrogon> the Pi will decode and play h264 videos out of the box.
[21:03] <orogor> and mepg and wmv
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[21:34] <CoJaBo> orogor: gordonDrogon not mpeg or wmv
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[23:09] <tpresence> anyone know of a distro for the pi that already has weston/wayland and xserver to support it in place?
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[23:18] <irc_smirk> hello
[23:18] <irc_smirk> anyone here got docker working on pi?
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[23:22] <[Saint]> Yes.
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[23:22] <irc_smirk> which os?
[23:22] <irc_smirk> centos??
[23:22] <irc_smirk> ops
[23:23] <irc_smirk> arch?
[23:23] <[Saint]> Arch.
[23:23] <irc_smirk> did you use an external disk for it?
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[23:28] <[Saint]> perhaps you want to look at: http://resin.io/blog/docker-on-raspberry-pi-in-4-simple-steps/
[23:28] <[Saint]> where someone has already done the "hard" parts for you.
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[23:31] <irc_smirk> yes ive read that article
[23:31] <irc_smirk> then i came across this
[23:31] <irc_smirk> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/extend-life-raspberry-pis-sd-card/
[23:31] <irc_smirk> so im thinking it makes sense to have docker run in a dedicated ssd
[23:32] <irc_smirk> and little i know of linux but seems you can also increase the pi memory by using disk as well
[23:32] <[Saint]> They're both solid state storage, and both have wear levelling, and finit life spans.
[23:32] <[Saint]> *finite
[23:32] <[Saint]> you'd just be swapping one degradeable storage medium for another
[23:32] <SpeedEvil> SSDs tend to be way less crappy than SDs though
[23:33] <[Saint]> This is true, but on a pi, the ways in which they are better are meaningless.
[23:33] <irc_smirk> so your saying the 180 gig ssd in my macbook will burn out soon?
[23:33] <plugwash> [Saint], ROFLMAO
[23:33] <[Saint]> irc_smirk: of course it will, nothing lasts forever.
[23:34] <irc_smirk> like how long? a year?
[23:34] <plugwash> In my experiance SD cards SUCK at random write, the controllers just aren't designed for it
[23:34] <Caleo> sd cards suck at speed period lol
[23:34] <[Saint]> That's simply not true.
[23:35] <plugwash> Caleo, sequential speeds are fast enough that in sequential operations the Pi will be the bottleneck not the card. Random write is a whole different ball game.
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[23:35] <[Saint]> UHS-II can do ~280MB/s R/W
[23:36] <irc_smirk> seems there is a gaping hole someone can plug and make $$$
[23:36] <[Saint]> I'd hardly call that "sucking"
[23:36] <Caleo> I'm not talking about the Pi
[23:36] <irc_smirk> a webbased docker distrubition center with preconfigurations for pi
[23:36] <Caleo> lol I've never seen my UHS cards get anywhere near their advertised read/write
[23:36] <[Saint]> Likely because the hardware they reside in sucks.
[23:36] <[Saint]> Not because the cards do.
[23:37] <irc_smirk> saint - whats your uses for docker on the PI
[23:37] <Caleo> uh, sure.. usb 3.0 reader and my digital SLR lol
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[23:39] <[Saint]> With the information given, that's largely meaningless. Does the DSLR actually support UHS-II, does the host actually have native USB3 support, etc?
[23:40] <[Saint]> Plugging a 3.0 reader into a host that only has 2.0 controller, for instance, isn;t going to do you any good.
[23:40] <Smuckerz> Caleo, which dSLR?
[23:40] <Caleo> clearly you think I'm an idiot
[23:40] <irc_smirk> what a way to spend your time in here
[23:40] <irc_smirk> kay off to dockerize the pi
[23:40] <[Saint]> No. I just think you're being (possibly deliberately) vague, and I'm calling you out on it.
[23:41] <[Saint]> Think what you will of it. If you belive me to think you an idiot, perhaps I have reason to.
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[23:41] <[Saint]> I don't..but, whatever.
[23:42] <Smuckerz> Caleo, only if it's a cannon dSLR and you paid money for it
[23:42] <Caleo> Smuckerz: that's a bit prejudiced
[23:42] <Caleo> and it's canon, btw
[23:42] <[Saint]> Not a particularly nice way of stating it, but its hard to disagree with.
[23:43] <Smuckerz> Caleo, i know how the camera company spells it's name ;)
[23:44] <Smuckerz> Caleo, hence if one had a "Cannon" SLR and it wasn't free... they'd be an idiot :)
[23:44] <irc_smirk> anyone here want to start a docker-pi project
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[23:49] <methuzla> Has anyone tried making time-lapse movies using the pi's GPU ?
[23:49] <methuzla> like this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=72435
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[23:50] <methuzla> I've gotten it to work, but quality is not so great. Anyone else?
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