#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2014-11-24

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[14:03] <shiftplusone> thanks
[14:04] <ustrunz> no idea yet about my problem?
[14:05] <shiftplusone> There's nothing that can be done if rs don't have it (don't they?) and you're not willing to buy from farnell.
[14:05] <Bilby> *yawn*
[14:05] <Bilby> mairnan, lads and lassies
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[14:06] <shiftplusone> 'morning
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[14:06] <Bilby> what is ustrunz trying to do?
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[14:06] <shiftplusone> get a second CMIO camera adapter board
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[14:07] <ustrunz> Bilby: i am trying to get ONE (second) camera adapter for the cm i/o board
[14:07] <ustrunz> (farnell wants me to buy some more stuff to reach the 30 euros limit)
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[14:08] <ustrunz> rs does not have anything...no accessories for the cm
[14:10] <Bilby> ah :(
[14:11] <Bilby> ebay?
[14:11] <ustrunz> Bilby: they don't have any accessories too
[14:11] <ustrunz> or do you think they have?
[14:13] * shiftplusone should raid the CMIO board cupboard and put all the adapter boards on ebay for $50 each >.>
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[14:14] <Bilby> ebay has everything, but may not be economical
[14:14] <Bilby> no place locally you can buy it/
[14:14] <Bilby> ?
[14:14] <ustrunz> Bilby: no, i am searching for the camera module only
[14:14] <ustrunz> *adapter
[14:15] <ustrunz> Bilby: can you give me the link to ebay you are talking about? i don't think they sell the camera adapter separately
[14:15] <pksato> very specific item.
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[14:16] <Bilby> oh you're working with the new dev board aren't you?
[14:17] <Bilby> yeah that's so new it's not really out there yet :(
[14:17] <pksato> build one, buy a flat cable that fit on CM board. and piggyback to camera cable.
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[14:18] <ustrunz> i am doing some experiments with the dev board,yes
[14:18] <Bilby> that thing looks cool but yeah, kind of rare at the moment
[14:19] <Bilby> different subject - does anyone know what the external connector pinout is for the wolfson audio board?
[14:19] <Bilby> I'm starting to realize the board is a bit overkill for my needs lol
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[14:20] <Bilby> ah, just realized the manual uses different terminology in different places :/
[14:20] <shiftplusone> it's great when documentation does that >=/
[14:21] <Bilby> yep
[14:21] <shiftplusone> Or uses terms which it doesn't define and the only hit on google for that term is a link to the documentation.
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[14:22] <shiftplusone> (I'm looking at you, linux framebuffer api documentation)
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[14:23] <shiftplusone> psh.... 'macropixels'
[14:23] <Bilby> silkscreen says EX_Connection, board diagram calls it Expansion Header, pin reference calls it Feature header signal assignment
[14:24] <Bilby> Anymore i expect crap documentation for FOSS packages (so frustrating) but hardware... hardware should have good documentation
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[14:38] <ustrunz> so the cm is a new thing?
[14:38] <ustrunz> there are no applications of it yet?
[14:38] <shiftplusone> new thing, but there are plenty of applications
[14:39] <shiftplusone> since it's an industrial product, people don't tend to publicise what they do with it.
[14:39] <ustrunz> i see...
[14:39] <ustrunz> are there known applications at the moment?
[14:39] <shiftplusone> but off the top of my head, there's the Slice media centre and that stereo depth perception thing by argon design.
[14:40] <ustrunz> yeah...i saw that
[14:40] <shiftplusone> I think niston is doing something with it too for his thingy thing.
[14:41] <shiftplusone> I think there were a few kickstarters too, but I don't remember if they used normal pis or the cm.
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[14:42] <Bilby> Afaik you can use it for anything you can use the pi for, it just takes more fabrication
[14:42] <Bilby> and because it exposes all of the pins from the CPU there is actually more flexibility in some places
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[14:43] <shiftplusone> yes, but designing a base board is a stumbling block if you don't have an electrical engineer handy.
[14:43] <Bilby> hah, true
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[14:44] <shiftplusone> niston was saying he'd need to pay a contractor like 1.5k to 2k, which seems quite steep.
[14:44] <Bilby> It dependsd
[14:45] <Bilby> there is no power handling or anything off of the cm, so you have a power section and an IO section at minimum
[14:45] <Bilby> well, dammit, i screwed myself. The wolfson card requires its own special distro to run properly
[14:46] <Bilby> and it hasn't been out long enough for it to get integrated into anything else... despite the fact that it's essentially discontinued until they come out with one that's B+ compatible :/
[14:46] <ustrunz> who is nesting?
[14:46] <shiftplusone> Pretty sure it would just need a kernel, not a full distro
[14:46] <ustrunz> niston
[14:47] <shiftplusone> http://niston.wordpress.com/2014/10/10/niston-stream-one/
[14:47] <shiftplusone> http://makezine.com/2014/11/22/building-a-desktop-music-streamer-from-a-car-stereo/
[14:47] <shiftplusone> that guy
[14:47] <Bilby> shiftplusone that's true but i can't find a guide and don't have the skillz to roll my own
[14:48] <shiftplusone> who is probably getting annoyed that we're pinging him every 5 seconds >.>
[14:48] <Bilby> lol
[14:48] <Bilby> i don't know why the makezine article says "from a car stereo"
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[14:48] <Bilby> every part in that thing is new off the shelf
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[15:20] <shiftplusone> make run
[15:20] <shiftplusone> err.... fail
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[15:22] <Bilby> shiftplusone try again?
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[15:54] <Bilby> why is the wolfson image 4.4gb download and 7.7 unpacked ;__;
[15:56] <ShorTie> because it has lots and lots of files maybe .. :/~
[15:57] <shiftplusone> or maybe they didn't shrink it
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[16:00] <LiohAu> Hey guys. I'm looking for a way to connect a microphone to my Pi, any USB sound adapter to recommend?
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[16:04] <Bilby> hey LiohAu there are a few options out there
[16:04] <Bilby> most USB sound cards will work
[16:04] <Bilby> and there are also the add-on boards like the wolfson
[16:04] <ShorTie> if they have linux drivers that is
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[16:06] <Twist-> LiohAu: have you seen http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals ?
[16:06] <Bilby> anything that is class-compliant should work
[16:06] <Bilby> LiohAu check http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#USB_Sound_Cards
[16:07] <Bilby> I've personally tested the turtle beach micro for audio out with no problems
[16:07] <Bilby> but many will work
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[16:09] <shiftplusone> Well, they should pretty much all work. The issue is how well
[16:09] <shiftplusone> Pretty sure most will sound noisy
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[16:10] <Bilby> not sure on that
[16:10] <Bilby> i didn't have any problems with noise on output
[16:11] <Bilby> other than networking which is pretty weird and may just be my cheap-ass network switch :P
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[16:13] <Bilby> Oooh interesting
[16:13] <Bilby> when i put the wolfson board on, initially i had the same hum from the network adapter
[16:14] <Bilby> but after installing the image with the wolfson drivers and booting, hum gone.
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[16:15] <ShorTie> sounds like they know of a noise issue, so they added a filter in to filter it out
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[16:18] <LiohAu> I just need an input device to get my code working
[16:18] <LiohAu> maybe there's a way to emulate one
[16:18] <LiohAu> without having to buy a real one
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[16:34] <Bilby> ah, got sound working. card sounds good, man
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[16:35] <LiohAu> anybody already used alsa to create a dummy input audio device?
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[16:37] <shiftplusone> surely google would know
[16:37] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=485842
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[16:38] <Bilby> now to install Volumio
[16:38] <Bilby> I'm documenting this, ima put a post up on the subreddit when i'm done
[16:39] <LiohAu> shiftplusone: I did this and now aplay -L shows a dummy card
[16:40] <LiohAu> but I don't know how alsa devices works, they are named?
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[16:43] <LiohAu> fixed, thanks to #alsa. Just had to change "alsa, default" to "alsa, default:Dummy" in my app config file
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[16:51] <Bilby> aha
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[17:30] <Zta> Draylor:
[17:30] <Zta> got
[17:30] <Zta> ack..
[17:31] <Zta> I'm trying to find my way around my thinkpad keyboard after having used a silly mac for some time at work =)
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[17:36] <Zta> gordonDrogon: Would it be possible to have the wiringPiISR callback method changed so it gets the actual pin and perhaps its current state (low/high) passed instead of just void?
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[17:41] * ShorTie thinkz, it's open source, mod as you like
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[17:45] <Zta> ShorTie: very informative
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[17:47] <dpio> Greetings. Is it possible to get progressive JPEG hardware-accelerated encoding to work on Raspberry Pi?
[17:48] <GentileBen> That's a very good question, dpio.
[17:48] <GentileBen> One which demands further examination.
[17:48] <dpio> AFAIK there are some problems with it at the moment, but I do not understand their nature, i.e. can they be fixed by working on the driver, or it's a hardware limitation and there's no way around it, aside from buying another board
[17:48] <Zta> gordonDrogon: Maybe there's a low-level limit somewhere, or maybe you just didn't think about it. It would be a nice change, I think.
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[17:50] <Zta> gordonDrogon: I see in your wiringPi/examples/isr.c that you explicitly declare myInterriupt0 .. myInterrupt7 methods. I'm aiming for something a little more flexible.
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[17:53] <dpio> GentileBen, if it's not certain that such a thing is impossible, I think I'll get down to the openmax driver and try to make sense of it, and post at the forums if anything interesting comes up.
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[18:17] <shiftplusone> if dom says it's impossible, it's impossible
[18:17] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=92401
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[18:18] <dpio> thanks
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[18:18] <shiftplusone> though that question is about encoding
[18:18] <shiftplusone> oh wait
[18:18] <shiftplusone> so did you
[18:18] <shiftplusone> (and I gather you posted it anyway)
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[18:20] <dpio> yep, it was me. I tried several channels simultaneously to improve the odds of getting an answer
[18:20] <dpio> thanks for the notice anyway
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[19:25] <Bilby> ugh, this is more work than i thought it would be
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[20:15] <Bilby> So i finally have the wolfson card working with volumio, but it's inconsistant as hell
[20:17] <flexus> dropouts?
[20:18] <flexus> there is preempt kernel on volumio
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[20:19] <Bilby> flexus i finally found an image linked from the volumio blog where someone has switched the volumio install to the wolfson kernel
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[20:19] <Bilby> but when i tried playing a streaming station (to test) all i heard was loud static on the right channel
[20:20] <Bilby> despite test tones playing just fine from both
[20:20] <flexus> whats the kernel message for this card?
[20:20] <Bilby> when i press on the board, then i can hear a little music + static on the left channel
[20:20] <Bilby> and then it gets more strange
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[20:20] <Bilby> mp3s and flac files from my computer play fine
[20:20] <Bilby> and another streaming station plays fine as well
[20:20] <Bilby> but yet another doesn't play at all
[20:21] <flexus> looks like resampling problem
[20:21] <flexus> watch out which station makes 192k, i think its the native wolfson sampling rate
[20:22] <flexus> or which station differs from the native wolfson sampling
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[20:24] <Bilby> just checked working vs. non-working streams in winamp and they appaear to be the same data type
[20:24] <flexus> winamp? what the
[20:24] <flexus> nvm
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[20:25] <Bilby> i'm opening the stream on another computer to look at data
[20:25] <flexus> encoding type?
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[20:26] <flexus> whats cpu usage?
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[20:27] <Bilby> okay. static stream is 96kbps Mpeg, working stream is 128kbps mpeg
[20:27] <flexus> which distri you got ?
[20:27] <flexus> volumio, right
[20:28] <Bilby> groove salad is working
[20:28] <Bilby> load avarage .24, .33, .24
[20:28] <flexus> whats groove salad
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[20:28] <Bilby> somafm ambiant / house stream - www.somafm.com
[20:29] <flexus> i might look at it
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[20:29] <Bilby> they ahve a lot of good stations actually
[20:30] <Bilby> okay, looks like resampling is turned off in mpd, but a) i'm surprised the wolfson card isn't handling it and b) why is it handling the FLAC / VBR stuff with no problem?
[20:30] <flexus> cant remember the division thing of sampling rate, divide by sampling rate or stuff like that
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[20:31] <flexus> it should be an integer
[20:31] <pksato> Bilby: if use alsa, can be a alsa issue.
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[20:31] <Bilby> i'm not sure how it's being handled... the audio output has been changed to sndrpiwsp but the mixer type is software and... ugh
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[20:31] <Bilby> confusing as hell is what it is
[20:31] <flexus> right, volumio is a little bit closed
[20:32] <flexus> overlay is fine they say
[20:33] <flexus> but follow pksatos guess, its maybe alsa stuff with the dropout
[20:33] <Bilby> huh. i told it to resample output to 24 bit / 192 khz and now the streaem works
[20:33] <flexus> ok, the native sample rate i guess
[20:34] <Bilby> I... guess? I have no idea.
[20:34] <flexus> if it works, it works..
[20:35] <Bilby> i know right. i was hoping for something with better support :(
[20:35] <flexus> its maybe some unnessesary resampling, but you wont hear
[20:35] <Bilby> it seems like the wolfson card was the first out the door but it was so overloaded with features everyone bypassed it and went to more simple i2s stuff
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[20:35] <flexus> losing some db of headroom, no problem
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[20:37] <flexus> there might be some more elegant solution but i cant remember the alsa term
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[20:38] <Bilby> yep... tried a reboot and it's still playing nicely
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[20:40] <Bilby> it's almost impossible to tell but i'd "say" that the sound quality is better than the USB
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[20:40] <flexus> xrun
[20:41] <flexus> ok, you got turle beach and wolfson right?
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[20:41] <Bilby> with the way this mounts it eats all the GPIO pins even though it doesn't really use them for playback. I'll have to piggyback another set of GPIO pins to put buttons and the like on
[20:41] <Bilby> yeah
[20:41] <Bilby> it's not a big deal, it sounds good and it's an interesting experiment
[20:42] <Bilby> I wish i'd looked up what people have done with the wolfson card before I bought it <_< for my needs the onyl thing that it really saves me is cost and availability over standard i2s boards
[20:44] <flexus> maybe use some flat cable and split it or stuff like that
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[20:44] <flexus> from old cdrom or so
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[20:51] <flexus> keep the lines short if you do that
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[21:00] <Matt> I wouldn't mind playing with some of the i2s stuff
[21:00] <Matt> but a usb dongle was incredibly cheap
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[21:02] <flexus> there is some LogiLink 7.1 Dolby USB thing for 22�
[21:02] <flexus> i will try as christmas present for myself *rubbing hands*
[21:04] <flexus> the 3mm TRS are a real joke, but yeah..
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[21:32] <f00bar80> I can't connect to my rpi , either wired or wireless , it's detected by my router but when i try to ssh to its ip , connection timed out, and the same issue if on a wired connection, tried to reboot it several times and as well my router, and when i ping it , i'm getting "From icmp_seq=4 Redirect Network(New nexthop:" , any idea what's wrong ?
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[21:34] <ShorTie> what model pi ??
[21:35] <f00bar80> ShorTie, B
[21:36] <ShorTie> how did you reboot it ??
[21:36] <f00bar80> ShorTie, power off/on , with SD out/in
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[21:37] <ShorTie> i'd guess your sdcard is corrupted
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[21:38] <f00bar80> ShorTie, when i have no eth. cable connected i have the FDX, lnk and 100 ON ... ???!
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[21:40] <f00bar80> ShorTie, which is kind weird
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[21:40] <ShorTie> corrupt sdcard can do strang things
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[21:40] <ShorTie> got another sdcard ??
[21:41] <f00bar80> ShorTie, i don't have
[21:41] <mpmc> OK odd one for you guys, I have a dodgy [board rev 0002] pi that won't boot when the SD card gets hot, I think I mentioned it in here ages ago (asking for solutions). Now I've found out that if I overclock the Pi to arm = 930 ram = 500 and gpu = 350 it'll boot and reboot fine but will crash after a day or two. I believe it has hynix RAM known to have issues with oc, any recommended oc settings? [Changing SD card makes no difference]
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[21:42] <flexus> f00bar80: what is "route" saying?
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[21:43] <f00bar80> flexus, i can't connect to the pi
[21:43] <flexus> f00bar80: and you cant check with monitor, understand
[21:44] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone do arcade emulation on their pi and care to help me out? i tried piplay, but it didn't seem to work well and resulted in reboot after reboot along with broken audio. do you prefer to use something like piplay or just install an emulator on raspbian?
[21:45] <flexus> f00bar80: did it work before?
[21:45] <f00bar80> flexus, yea
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[21:46] <ShorTie> is your wifi pluged into a powered usb hub ??
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[21:46] <flexus> f00bar80: can you remember any changes made these days?
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[21:48] <flexus> f00bar80: updates of particular packages etc
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[21:49] <f00bar80> flexus, something happened this mornning, a surge caused squibed a wire in my room, but nothing is related to the pi here
[21:51] <ShorTie> what is squibed ??
[21:51] <f00bar80> flexus, cause of a lightning touched a wire on my roof
[21:51] <ShorTie> now it's sounding like it got lighting fried
[21:52] <ShorTie> expecially if the lights are acting wierd
[21:52] <f00bar80> ShorTie, so it's damaged ?
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[21:53] <ShorTie> ya
[21:54] <ShorTie> there is no surge protection on the pi
[21:54] <ShorTie> 322222222222222222222222222
[21:55] <ShorTie> kitty ^^^^^^^^^
[21:55] <ShorTie> little she devil, lol.
[21:55] <f00bar80> ShorTie, :( no way .. ?! how the lightning reached my pi ?!!!!!!! :(:(:(:(((((
[21:56] <ShorTie> power is 5vdc +/- .2 volts, so it doesn't take a whole bunch of extra
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[21:57] <f00bar80> ShorTie, so how to be sure?
[21:58] <ShorTie> all electronics should be plugged into atleast a surge protector
[21:59] <ShorTie> you could try reflashing your sdcard with a fresh image
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[22:03] <flexus> my condolence
[22:04] <f00bar80> ShorTie, if i can get it connected to a monitor , and the OS is loading fine , that means it's fine ?
[22:04] <ShorTie> can not really answer that 1
[22:05] <f00bar80> ShorTie, it can load the OS but could be some electricity issues ?/
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[22:05] <f00bar80> ShorTie, i thought when you mentioned to tflash the SD is that what you meant
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[22:05] <Matt> hrm, I wonder which bit of this isn't working
[22:05] <Matt> aslsa on the pi, the $1 usb audio dongle, or the old h
[22:05] <Matt> ?!
[22:06] <Matt> stupid laptop eating keys
[22:06] <Matt> alosa on the pi, the $1 USB audio dongle, or the old headset I found in a drawer
[22:06] <Matt> and I still can't type
[22:06] * Matt sighs
[22:06] <ShorTie> your asking for idea's to try, that is an idea
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[22:08] <ShorTie> keyboard, mouse and monitor would be a good start
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[22:11] <ShorTie> Matt, option 4, all of the above
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[22:11] * ShorTie snickers
[22:12] <f00bar80> ShorTie, what can i check if i have a monitor ... to make sure things are still fine ?
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[22:13] <ShorTie> see how it actually boots
[22:13] <ShorTie> see how it seems to work
[22:13] <ShorTie> see what ifconfig says
[22:14] <ShorTie> ...
[22:15] <ShorTie> without keyboard, mouse and monitor, there is really no magical wand to get ssh to work
[22:18] <Matt> ShorTie: indeed
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[22:18] <Matt> I can play audio back through the headset just fine
[22:18] <Matt> so output is good
[22:18] <Matt> but attempting to capture audio results in silence
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[22:19] <ShorTie> then your golden
[22:19] <ShorTie> silence is golden as they say, lol.
[22:19] * ShorTie being bad
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[22:26] <flexus> f00bar80: /var/log
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[22:43] <f00bar80> flexus, dmesg ?
[22:43] <flexus> kinda
[22:44] <flexus> dmesg | more
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[22:46] <flexus> f00bar80: this is no stress test...
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[22:47] <f00bar80> flexus, what do you mean
[22:47] <flexus> hardware could be halfway dead
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[22:50] <flexus> dmesg is no substitute for a stress test
[22:51] <ShorTie> dmesg (display message or driver message) is a command on most Linux- and Unix-based operating systems that prints the message buffer of the kernel.
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[22:53] <ShorTie> The dmesg command allows these messages to be reviewed in a controlled manner after the system has started.
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[23:03] <f00bar80> flexus, stress test , how
[23:04] <flexus> *open hands*
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[23:08] <Bilby> f00bar80 / flexus stress test what part of the pi?
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[23:09] <flexus> Bilby: dont know if it even boots up
[23:09] <Bilby> so... try to boot it and see if it does?
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[23:10] <ShorTie> his house was hit with lighting, now the pi does not work
[23:10] <Bilby> :O
[23:10] <flexus> i already gave my condolence
[23:10] <flexus> if he wants to know, he wants to know
[23:10] <Bilby> other than basic ARE YOU ALIIIVE testing there's not much to do
[23:10] <steve_rox> power surged it?
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[23:11] <ShorTie> hard to tell much without monitor
[23:11] <steve_rox> ah
[23:12] <Bilby> i'd probably start with finding out if the status lights come on when you apply power
[23:12] <Bilby> if no, check / reimage SD, if yes, try ssh or display
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[23:13] <ShorTie> he was talking the eth port lights where lighting up without even a cable plugged in
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[23:14] <steve_rox> im sure there would be some sort of visible damage if lightning did get it
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[23:14] <Bilby> not necesssarily
[23:15] <Bilby> pi's are pretty resiliant but a large surge would easily take out the power section without leaving a mark
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[23:15] <steve_rox> fun
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[23:25] <Bilby> dammit
[23:25] <Bilby> so the image i downloaded works, with some tweaking
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[23:25] <Bilby> but if you run apt-get upgrade it breaks
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[23:39] <pflanze> Hello. I'm trying to use a raspberry pi B for the first time. I've stored an image on a "UHS-I" microSDHC card using
[23:39] <pflanze> cat riscos-2014-06-04-RC12a.img > /dev/sdc1
[23:40] <pflanze> and inserted that, plugged it into the TV through HDMI, and applying power from my samsung galaxy SII power supply; the red LED will light up,
[23:40] <pflanze> but nothing happens afterwards. TV stays black, no LED blinking.
[23:40] <e^ipi> use dd, not cat
[23:41] <e^ipi> dd if=/path/to/img of=/dev/sdc
[23:41] <Bilby> (y)
[23:41] <Bilby> err, that
[23:41] * Bilby using too many IM clients <_<
[23:41] <pflanze> If you don't give a block size to dd, the result should be exactly the same.
[23:42] <pflanze> Well, default blocksize is 512. Fair enough, but, the file size is a multiple of that.
[23:44] <f00bar80> Bilby, when i apply power lights blink and FDX, LNK and 100 leds are on even when i have no ethernet cable connected to the pi
[23:45] <pflanze> e^ipi, but the real point you're making is to write to sdc, not sdc1.
[23:45] * pflanze slaps head
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[23:46] <pflanze> (Still, is there really no diagnostics (blinking LED, some picture) when something goes wrong?)
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[23:55] <pflanze> Ok, it runs now.
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[23:57] <Bilby> f00bar80 that's certainly not a good sign. i'm assuminng you're not getting a valid video signal?
[23:57] <pflanze> (With cat, btw.) (Sorry to be stubborn about that, but I don't want there to be myths propagated. I've basically never copied disk images with dd for a decade+.)

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