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IRC Log for 2014-12-20

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[0:06] <bdunlap> ShorTie, hmm it won't work properly in xbmc. still the same issue. it works fine in Raspbian though.
[0:07] <bdunlap> i fear it'll damage my little HDD.
[0:07] <bdunlap> I will have to wait for a month or two and then buy a powered USB hub.
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[0:11] <ShorTie> did you add those 2 line into xbmc's config.txt ??
[0:12] <bdunlap> ShorTie, yes I did.
[0:12] <bdunlap> it works fine in Raspbian. Not in any of the xbmc versions.
[0:12] <bdunlap> they are all the same it seems, just slightly different underlying setup (i assume).
[0:13] <ShorTie> hmmm, that is an image you downloaded ??
[0:13] <bdunlap> through NOOBS, yes.
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[0:13] <ShorTie> NOOBS, blaaa.....
[0:13] <bdunlap> it's the one that comes linked inside the NOOBS OS installer.
[0:14] <ShorTie> raspbian was on a different sdcard ??
[0:14] <bdunlap> I had to re-do the sd card this morning because when i woke up and flipped th TV source back to the Pi and saw that the resolution was changing every few seconds, and it was very odd with colors and stuff. I determined that th Pi is defective OR it needed a new OS. so I tried a new OS and it fixed that issue.
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[0:14] <bdunlap> ShorTie, it has been yes, but it was class 4. I am using the class 10 that came with the kit.
[0:15] <ShorTie> that does not matter
[0:15] <bdunlap> Currently I have 2 OSes installed on that 8GB class 10 card. NOOBS initially, then now I have Raspbian and the OpenELEC
[0:16] <bdunlap> I am now booted into the OpenELEC (xbmc) and plugged the drive in, and it did the spinup/down thing very harshly again. I'm not sure waht to call what happens.
[0:16] * ShorTie not fond of noobs
[0:16] <bdunlap> ooh wait... ummm brb ill check something
[0:17] <plugwash> I think in a noobs setup each OS has it's own config.txt
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[0:18] <bdunlap> plugwash, yes i just realized that. haha
[0:18] <bdunlap> im trying to ssh into it now but the password is 'incorrect'
[0:19] <bdunlap> hmm i dont konw the password. weird.
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[0:21] <ShorTie> Default login: root / openelec
[0:21] <bdunlap> googled it. found it.
[0:21] <bdunlap> haha thx ShorTie
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[0:22] <ShorTie> might want to change that
[0:23] <bdunlap> ShorTie, yes. but i checked and i cant access anytying but the "home" folders.
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[0:24] <ShorTie> use 'passwd' to change it
[0:24] <ShorTie> or you talking about the config.txt file
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[0:32] <bdunlap> sorry, I'm back.
[0:33] <bdunlap> ShorTie, talking about config.txt. I am unallowed to access anything but the home folders (lost+found, music, pictures, recordings, screenshots, tvshows, videos)
[0:33] <bdunlap> weird. now it let me. dirregard last statement. *sigh*
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[0:35] <bdunlap> ShorTie, what were the settings to add? I don't have record of them here on my normal computer.
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[0:35] <ShorTie> echo "safe_mode_gpio=4" >> /boot/config.txt
[0:35] <ShorTie> echo "max_usb_current=1" >> /boot/config.txt
[0:36] <bdunlap> ShorTie, thank you. The OS is read-only apparently. i have no idea how to fix that.
[0:37] <ShorTie> NOOBS is partition happy, hard to yell where it might be
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[0:37] <bdunlap> ShorTie, I did find it at /flash/config.txt
[0:38] <ShorTie> might be able to figure it out with fdisk though
[0:38] <bdunlap> but it wont let me as the OS is read-only. it says here... "At the moment it's not possible to change the root password as it's held in a read-only filesystem."
[0:38] <ShorTie> you got 2 sdcards ??
[0:38] <bdunlap> ShorTie, I do have multiple sd cards but they are class 4 not 10.
[0:39] <bdunlap> I would have to compile the OpenELEC OS from source to be able to change anything about it.
[0:39] <plugwash> can't you do
[0:39] <ShorTie> class 4 if fine, still like faster then the pi can do
[0:39] <plugwash> mount -o remount,rw /
[0:39] <plugwash> mount -o remount,rw /flash
[0:39] <bdunlap> plugwash, the SD card is already mounted. if I force unmount it the OS would quit working.
[0:40] <ShorTie> go here http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[0:40] <plugwash> bdunlap, that's why you don't unmount it
[0:40] <bdunlap> ShorTie, I had used a class 4 and it was very laggy with raspbian and xbmc
[0:40] <ShorTie> and get it and put it on it's own sdcard
[0:40] <bdunlap> plugwash, yes but remounting does have to unmount it to re-mount it.
[0:40] <plugwash> you use the "remount" option to mount so you can change the options without unmounting it
[0:40] <bdunlap> ok ill try
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[0:42] <bdunlap> wow that worked! so do I need to reboot to get the max current usb to work?
[0:42] <ShorTie> you could always put it on the hdd
[0:42] <bdunlap> ShorTie, yes I had thought of doing the split OS where /boot and kernel was on the SD card and the rest was on the hdd
[0:43] <plugwash> bdunlap, yeah you will need to reboot to make it reread config.txt
[0:43] <bdunlap> ok I am doing that now. Thanks :)
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[0:47] <dob1> hi, they ma indicated on an hdd is refer to the max current that they need ?
[0:47] <dob1> *the
[0:47] <dob1> sorry, maybe is a bit ot
[0:47] <ShorTie> normally
[0:48] * plugwash guesses it's probablly current while active
[0:48] <plugwash> (that is while reading and writing)
[0:48] <plugwash> spinup current may well be higher
[0:48] <dob1> well, so it's not the max it current it neeeds
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[0:50] <bdunlap> im back. every time i try to play my digital copy of Independence Day (mk4) from that HDD plugged ito the RPi it seems to restart the X-server. idk
[0:50] <ShorTie> it could be, but that would be cruel and disiving to list the operating current as max
[0:51] <bdunlap> ok but my home video (mov) works fine.
[0:51] <plugwash> ShorTie, AIUI in general rated currents are not the absoloute maximum but the maximum sustained current
[0:52] <dob1> can i consider the spinup current + 20% referred to the max current they indicate on the hdd?
[0:55] <ShorTie> what problems are you having ??
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[0:56] <dob1> i have some old hdds, just trying to find which ones to use with no problems looking at they specifications
[0:56] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[0:57] <dob1> someone list 1A, 700ma, 500ma
[0:57] <ShorTie> what model pi are you using them on ??
[0:57] <dob1> b+
[0:58] <bdunlap> ok I'm stumped. I can't find any info on google for the rebooting of X problem with a mk4 movie.
[0:58] <ShorTie> with the current hack, any of those should work fine i would think
[0:58] <dob1> ShorTie, the current hack is the setting on config.txt ?
[0:58] <bdunlap> im not sure what is wrong. does an mk4 need a special codec to be purchased??
[0:59] <ShorTie> bdunlap, openelec might be using older formware where that hack is not valid
[0:59] <ShorTie> Yes dob1
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[1:00] <ShorTie> you want the quick cheat for it ??
[1:00] <bdunlap> well it shows the kernel (according to raspberrypi.org/downloads) for openelec is 3.14.7. um Pi just froze.
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[1:01] <ShorTie> kernel not= firmware
[1:01] <bdunlap> ok i unplugged HDMI and replugged it in and it unfroze. weird.
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[1:02] <bdunlap> i understand that but the kernel is the major working part (the brains) of the OS. and it's newer than raspbmc
[1:03] <ShorTie> openelec is a criter unto it's self
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[1:05] <bdunlap> *sigh* i may just give up. i may be getting an old PC (like 700mhz 256 or 512mb ram old) from a new friend so i could turn that computer into an xbmc server
[1:06] <bdunlap> I'm waiting for him to call back. i called him earlier today about the computer
[1:07] <bdunlap> ok current version openelec 4.0.5 newest version available is 4.2.1 so ill update it
[1:08] <bdunlap> if this doesn't work, I may try to do the split OS thing and see if that works, though I have no idea if it will due to the Pi causing the spin up/down thing with the drive if it's not in an OS
[1:09] <bdunlap> so in a month or two ill buy a powered usb hub.
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[1:16] <bdunlap> Ok I updated OpenELEC and it still can't play my movie
[1:19] <ShorTie> might try going into #openelec and asking if they support the full current hack in there firmware
[1:19] <dob1> ShorTie, thanks i got it
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[3:34] <abnormal> sleepy town?
[3:36] <parco> hey guys, how might i use my pi as a fake fireplace?
[3:36] <parco> i love this little damn thing, im gonna stick it on a tv for the holidays
[3:43] <abnormal> lol... someone has done it, but don't remember who... look in the rpi forums and see if still there....
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[3:43] <Twist-> find a suitable video and loop it with omxplayer?
[3:43] <abnormal> there ya go... ty
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[3:46] <Twist-> there's no shortage of fireplace videos on youtube
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[4:00] <abnormal> or on the big three broadcasters on xmas day... lol
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[4:34] <chris349> I changed the USB wireless adapater to another one and now I cant SSH. Is there some setting that would need to be changed in this case?
[4:38] <abnormal> why did you change the wifi adapter?
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[4:40] <qdk> How many USB2Serial cables would a RPi be able to power using passive USB hubs? and only having 1-2 active serial connections running? (If there is a diff to connected and non-connected serial connections)
[4:42] <abnormal> prolly have to make different addresses to each serial cable to prevent conflicts.
[4:43] <qdk> abnormal: Yeah, linux does that auto with ttyusb0,1,2,3 devices.
[4:44] <abnormal> cool.... didn't know that...
[4:44] <abnormal> niston, wud prolly be able to ans that question for you....
[4:45] <abnormal> or lost_soul.....
[4:45] <qdk> abnormal: :-)
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[4:45] <[Saint]> Can we please try and not deliberately bastardize the English language? :-S
[4:47] <abnormal> whatever...
[4:48] <chris349> abnormal, I had a mini adapater and the signal strength was not good. I removed the mini, and put one with an antenna and it connected without any issue but I can no longer SSH to it.
[4:49] <SpinningWheels> [Saint], it worked, he didn't use "w/e"
[4:49] <abnormal> [Saint], you got an answer for chris349 ?
[4:50] <[Saint]> Its probably just something stupid like DHCP saw a new MAC address and assigned a new IP.
[4:50] <[Saint]> Check the assignment at the router level.
[4:51] <[Saint]> (in other words: make sure you're trying to ssh to the right address)
[4:51] <abnormal> ty, [Saint]
[4:51] <chris349> Im pretty sure I have the right address.... I guess Ill need to reboot again since the keyboard is unplugged
[4:52] <abnormal> lol
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[5:15] <theteju> hey guys, I am not quite sure where to ask ,, I have a device has been lying around since three years, Its a little media player from Dlink, http://www.dlink.com/uk/en/support/product/dsm-510-high-definition-media-player Is it possible to hack this device and install raspberrypi or some similar image on it?
[5:17] <abnormal> kinda like a Netgear to me...
[5:17] <pksato> If you are a magician, yes.
[5:19] <abnormal> it's not that hard. just have the pi search for it and presto...
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[5:27] <[Saint]> Ummm...
[5:28] <theteju> ;/
[5:28] <[Saint]> I think you're /really/ misunderstanding what theteju wants to do abnormal
[5:28] <[Saint]> theteju: no - this is not possible
[5:28] <theteju> Thanks.. appreciated
[5:30] <[Saint]> At ~$35 USD, an ODROID C1 or raspberrypi will fill that void for you
[5:30] <abnormal> okay.... then what is the issue?
[5:30] <[Saint]> Now, nothing.
[5:32] <abnormal> okay...
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[6:01] <chris349> abnormal, I plugged in the keyboard and SSH works again!
[6:02] <abnormal> yay! good to hear that... wonderful!
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[7:12] <bdunlap> I am having trouble seeing my USB HDD in raspbian (in console mode) it doesn't seem to be mounted at all. checking df -h it is not mounted. The drive is light up nonstop, and whirring. I'm not sure what is happening. I can't unmount it. I can't go into the folder it created as i'm not root as root is who owns that drive I guess.
[7:13] <bdunlap> and i just su rooted and went into the directory. it's empty. idk I was just using it on the same Pi in xbmc (had not unplugged it) and it had some media on it.
[7:14] <bdunlap> i did unplug it (couldn't unmount it) and now it seems completely empty. ARGH.
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[7:17] <abnormal> try shutting down pi, then plug it back in, and boot up pi and see if pi will mount it during boot.
[7:18] <bdunlap> well i have kept it plugged in during boot but during the noobs transition (choose an OS screen) the drive goes crazy spinning up and spinning down super fast each every second. it's crazy.
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[7:18] <bdunlap> i tend to avoid rebooting it because of that.
[7:18] <bdunlap> i need to buy a powered USB hub but cant afford it right now.
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[7:23] <bdunlap> the usb drive is not in fstab or mtab. dmesg says it's sda
[7:23] <bdunlap> ok so i think sda1
[7:23] <abnormal> ahh.. no wonder... yeh, you need a good powered USB hub
[7:24] <abnormal> yes, sda1 is it
[7:24] <bdunlap> ok got it mounted. phew!
[7:24] <abnormal> yay!
[7:24] <bdunlap> i was getting really annoyed by this. ok so yeah i checked. it's mounted now. haha :)
[7:24] <bdunlap> i dont konw why the light was on non-stop and it was whirring but it wasn't mounted apparently.
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[7:25] <abnormal> yup we learn the hard way, eh?
[7:26] <bdunlap> yeah :P
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[7:26] <bdunlap> ok so this is odd. root can't change the owner of a directory?
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[7:27] <abnormal> that I do not know how to correct. have to ask a guru...
[7:27] <bdunlap> ok thx :P
[7:27] <bdunlap> i used to be a guru then i bought a mac. ive used it for over 2 years and now my brain is mush.
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[7:27] <bdunlap> i love my mac but really it dumbed me down
[7:27] <abnormal> if you are up to it, try the rpi forums.
[7:27] <bdunlap> ok i will. thx
[7:29] <abnormal> nah, you just went into a time lapse
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[7:31] <bdunlap> lol
[7:31] <bdunlap> yeah like to about 1 year after i started using linux. ROFL so that would have been 2003.
[7:32] <bdunlap> but of course back then i was only using the GUI and just starting to learn CLI
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[7:33] <abnormal> yup.. I never used linux until I discovered the pi... now I have five of them and a BBB
[7:33] <bdunlap> hah nice :D
[7:33] <abnormal> and three lappys are now linux since XP died.
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[7:34] <bdunlap> ah yeah. the latest version of windows I ever touch (dad's laptop) is win7. I refuse to allow them to buy a new laptop with win8 or higher. i hate it, ive used it briefly and wanted to smash it. so since my parents are so computer illiterate I am the one who fixes their computers.
[7:35] <bdunlap> if they do have to buy a new laptop, it'll put linux on it immediately.
[7:35] <abnormal> ah ha... good move not getting win 8
[7:35] <bdunlap> though dad has a WinRadio (Windows software-based shortwave radio)
[7:35] <bdunlap> yeah ugh
[7:36] <abnormal> that OS is real hell
[7:36] <bdunlap> so he will have to have a Windows computer but I won't be helping him with it. he can pay someone to fix it.
[7:36] <bdunlap> or use the internet for help. ha. yeah i HATE Windows. I really liked XP, hated Vista. I'm ok with 7 but still hate windows.
[7:36] <abnormal> try one with Zorin... and see how he does with that.
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[7:37] <bdunlap> hadn't thought of that one, but I haven't been keeping up with distros for the past 2 years.
[7:37] <abnormal> but, now I have used Mint Mate 17, it is a wonderful OS... very stable...
[7:38] <bdunlap> i have that installed on dual-boot on my mac. mom has mint on her laptop I think, can't remember what I put on it.
[7:38] <abnormal> there is a site, called: distrowatch.com
[7:38] <bdunlap> but I have Cinnamon on mine, and she has LXDE since her computer is so slow.
[7:38] <bdunlap> yep i used to frequent it.
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[7:39] <bdunlap> Justin the past 2 years Mint overtook Ubuntu as the top result.
[7:39] <bdunlap> LOL Just in
[7:39] <abnormal> my lappy has Ubuntu Presise on it and is crash-proof...
[7:39] <bdunlap> just DON'T do "rm -rf /" haha
[7:39] <bdunlap> it would crash. bye bye computer. poof.
[7:40] <abnormal> I hope not.
[7:40] <bdunlap> it would be sucked into a black hole that was just created.
[7:40] <bdunlap> yeah rm -rf / would delete all on the file system if you were running as root.
[7:40] <abnormal> I've made up my own linux bible watching the chats...
[7:40] <bdunlap> :)
[7:40] <bdunlap> yeah you find a lot of helpful tips on forums and chats.
[7:41] <abnormal> so I have all the commands that wud kill a pc...
[7:41] <bdunlap> Zorin does look very nice.
[7:41] <bdunlap> :) yeah
[7:42] <abnormal> sometimes a troll wud show up and do that and boy the ops jump on them faster than a turkey fuzz...
[7:43] <bdunlap> oh yeah..
[7:43] <bdunlap> i dont doubt it. that's an awful command to suggest to someone.
[7:43] <bdunlap> hence the reason i put "don't" in caps :P
[7:44] <bdunlap> i remember one of my favorite distros was CrunchBang.
[7:44] <bdunlap> i tried it recently on my mac and NO it would not play well at all.
[7:44] <abnormal> lol
[7:45] <bdunlap> Arch WAS my favorite until they removed the installer (even though it was text-based and menued) and i refuse to go through a gentoo-style install. Too much work. so I won't use Arch anymore.
[7:45] <abnormal> I have Ubuntu Presise and Tahrpup on my lappy.
[7:45] <bdunlap> Tahrpup? I've not heard of that.
[7:46] <abnormal> yup.. verie light...
[7:46] <abnormal> it's in distrowatch
[7:46] <abnormal> my lappy is a Dell B120
[7:47] <bdunlap> i'm being gifted a really old desktop PC. i think about 700 mhz with 256 or 512mb ram. friends says it has Puppy on it. so I'm excited to see what I can do with it.
[7:47] <abnormal> all of 40gb... lol... BUT, wait, it only used up 26% of it's space... amazing...
[7:48] <abnormal> it will do wonderfully...
[7:48] <bdunlap> ha nice
[7:48] <bdunlap> :)
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[7:51] <abnormal> lol, put mint mate on wifie's asus eeepc netbook... oops... slowed it down like a pull chain... took it out and put in Ubuntu Presise, and whoa, I had to strap it to table or it wud fly like a kite...
[7:52] <bdunlap> lol
[7:53] <abnormal> now if I put Tahrpup in it.. hmmm... I'd have to cable it down....
[7:53] <bdunlap> i didnt find Tahrpup on distrowatch
[7:54] <bdunlap> ah puppy
[7:55] <abnormal> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=08678
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[8:01] <abnormal> so, I have that and UP in one really old Dell lappy and surprisingly it really flys....
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[8:18] <bdunlap> abnormal, sorry for the delay. had to eat some protein. i fell on blacktop today (stupid me) and banged up my knees and probably lightly sprained my wrist and maybe some toes. so i needed some muscle-building protein for my poor torn muscle fibers and all that
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[8:18] <abnormal> oops.. sorry abt that...
[8:18] <abnormal> better rest real good...
[8:19] <bdunlap> yeah im very sore. ugh. i was just going to get the mail but misstepped.
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[8:19] <bdunlap> yeah I will. the ibuprofen kicked in quickly. i finally took some about a half hour ago.
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[8:19] <abnormal> wow... well pray you get better...
[8:19] <bdunlap> thank you abnormal
[8:19] <abnormal> yw
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[8:20] <abnormal> gotta go pee, brb...
[8:20] <bdunlap> ok :)
[8:21] <Loshki> bdunlap: my SO swears by B vitamins to reduce bruising. YMMV...
[8:21] <bdunlap> oh wow nice! apparently Bodhi Linux has a Raspberry Pi version!
[8:22] <bdunlap> Loshki, I haven't taken any B vitamins lately but actually just had some B's checked in blood work and they were great, though Zinc is low. I've been having a lot of health issues for over a year so I'm a bit malnourished in some areas due to the health issues.
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[8:23] <bdunlap> I'll see waht I can do to get more B's in me. but the brusing has already hit, but maybe it'll help clear it up.
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[8:24] <bdunlap> OOH OOH PiBang Linux! It's a Pi version of CrunchBang! OOH!
[8:25] <bdunlap> or not. the domain is sold or something. it's no longer there.
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[8:28] <abnormal> easy does it... one thing at a time... lol
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[8:29] <abnormal> I use Raspbian on all my pi's...
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[8:31] <bdunlap> yeah i have it, too, but im looking for something more lightweight.
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[8:31] <abnormal> xfce
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[8:32] <bdunlap> it's pretty laggy, and was hoping to find something that uses less resources, but im not sure i'll find anything that runs a gui and is usable for a standard style desktop
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[8:33] <abnormal> well in the rpi forums they have , or in github, info how to make Raspbian light.
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[8:35] <abnormal> lots of ppl find ways to remove a lot of stuff that is auto loaded in while installing Raspbian, so they look for things not needed and remove them and the OS is a lot lighter...
[8:36] <bdunlap> i just found the python_games folder. i have no idea why i need it but it's taking up 1.8MB on my 8G ssd
[8:36] <bdunlap> haha not ssd, SD card
[8:37] <abnormal> yup... but I use Python to do my stuff on arduino and quickstart boards.
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[9:14] <freezevee> hey guys, I just bought the piTFT 2.8'' tft for B+ and I was wondering where to start to create a gui on my own. I have advanced experience in web development (rails, php, django) and I learning a lot of ruby & python now. How could It be possible to create an app that will run on the tft with a gui (a small dashboard) ?
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[9:15] <freezevee> If I use a DE, I should use Qt, Tk, GTK+ etc, but is it the only way ?
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[9:25] <Twist-> freezevee: you might have some good fun with pyGame
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[9:25] <freezevee> you think so ?
[9:26] <freezevee> I want to create something simple for a start, like a lan ip "pinger"
[9:26] <freezevee> I already have the code but running it in the terminal
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[9:26] <heller\> morning
[9:27] <freezevee> so I need some "virtual LEDs" and some information displayed
[9:27] <Twist-> freezevee: Did you want to create X11 GUI apps, or fullscreen graphics from the console?
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[9:28] <freezevee> Twist-: something like our digital devices run, like digital cameras, medical devices etc.
[9:28] <freezevee> Twist-: something like that http://filedirector.uk.com/wp-content/uploads/Network-Scanner.png
[9:29] <freezevee> For a web interface it would be very easy for me but I am looking into a native app
[9:29] <Twist-> You seem to be answering some other question.
[9:29] <freezevee> I just don't know where to start from
[9:30] <Twist-> Are you unfamilar with Linux/UNIX and thus unaware of what X11 is?
[9:30] <freezevee> Twist-: let's say X11 GUI apps
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[9:30] <freezevee> Twist-: I am a Linux user but never went deep into DE
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[9:33] <Twist-> GTK is probably the most widely used UI toolkit
[9:33] <Twist-> GTK+, rather
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[9:35] <freezevee> Twist-: I suppose I'll need to execute startx first, right ?
[9:35] <Twist-> yes.
[9:36] <Twist-> you can set that as a default boot option in raspi-config if you like.
[9:37] <Twist-> I assume you've already rolled through the adafruit tutorial and gotten the pitft running. It won't work with stock raspbian.
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[9:40] <freezevee> Twist-: yeah, everything runs fin
[9:40] <freezevee> e
[9:41] <freezevee> Twist-: so lxde says it's written in GTK+... is it the fastest DE for raspberry ?
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[9:45] <Twist-> I'm sure you could find something slightly faster.. I haven't tried others.
[9:46] <freezevee> Twist-: have you created anything yourself with GTK for the rPi ?
[9:46] <Twist-> Nope. I avoid X11 entirely.
[9:47] <Twist-> http://l3net.wordpress.com/2014/02/15/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops-part-3/
[9:47] <Twist-> That's amusing.
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[9:51] <Twist-> Looks like you can use your preferred language. http://www.gtk.org/language-bindings.php
[9:51] <heller\> so raspberry can source 16mA max if only used by one pin?
[9:52] <heller\> or 16mA per pin but 50mA total max?
[9:58] <[Saint]> Or, 220~240V, for a _really_ short time.
[9:58] <freezevee> Twist-: what do you use ?
[10:01] <heller\> haha
[10:01] <heller\> so am i correct?
[10:01] <heller\> so i can drive a led safely <10mA and a relay
[10:02] <bdunlap> i know openbox-based WMs are super lightweight, blackbox, fluxbox, openbox, etc. It's not ideal like a more 'typical' style DE but it works well.
[10:03] <[Saint]> openbox isn't a DE.
[10:03] <[Saint]> its purely a window manager.
[10:03] <[Saint]> a bit pedantic, but, yeah.
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[10:04] <[Saint]> heller\: my google-fu leads me to http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=39029
[10:05] <[Saint]> well - it lead me a wee bit further, but I like to provide an exercise for the reader. ;)
[10:05] <bdunlap> I know, I said WM :)
[10:06] <[Saint]> bdunlap: argh - so you did, my mind swapped around DE and WM in your statement for some reason.
[10:06] <[Saint]> ...that was weird.
[10:06] <bdunlap> eh we all have brain freezes :)
[10:06] <heller\> [Saint]: how is the changeable current limit affecting anything?
[10:07] <heller\> if i can change it from 2 to 16mA
[10:07] <[Saint]> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[13:34] <kuppfi> hey! so i programmed a game in SFML2.2 and ran it on my pi but it just runs at 3fps anyway to get a better performance?
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[13:36] <kuppfi> so does anyone at all talk in this irc?
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[13:39] <ShorTie> sure we do
[13:39] <kuppfi> not a lot as it seems
[13:39] <ShorTie> but i have absolutely no idea what 'SFML2.2' is
[13:40] <ShorTie> depends on when your l@@kin
[13:40] <kuppfi> SFML is a graphics library
[13:40] <ShorTie> oh
[13:41] <kuppfi> do you know the quake 3 that happend with the pi?
[13:41] <[Saint]> latatkin?
[13:41] <ShorTie> well i sortta think the pi has it's own graphics stuff to make it fast
[13:41] <[Saint]> errr...no.
[13:42] <ShorTie> ya, heard of that Quake3 thing
[13:42] <kuppfi> do you know if that driver will speed up anything else?
[13:42] <[Saint]> The raspi's "graphics stuff to make it fast" is called a GPU.
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[13:43] <ShorTie> i say it's own graphic stuff, because it took special stuff to get Quake3 to run nicely
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[13:43] <[Saint]> you're missing the point entirely.
[13:43] <ShorTie> and really not sure how else to say it, lol.
[13:43] <[Saint]> that was just to provide /open/ drivers.
[13:44] <[Saint]> and even then it kinda missed the point there and provided the bare essentials.
[13:44] <kuppfi> so it wont help my perfomance with other stuff
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[13:45] <[Saint]> #raspberrypi-internals is likely the better place to discuss interfacing with the GPU
[13:46] <kuppfi> thanks!
[13:47] <[Saint]> https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv/blob/master/README.md kinda brings the whole thing full circle
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[13:48] <[Saint]> ongoing effort to reverse engineer the VideoCore IV
[13:48] * ShorTie finally figured out how to upgrade his system, lol.
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[17:07] <AbstinencePistol> Hey, does anyone here use RetroPie?
[17:08] <AbstinencePistol> I have an issue with mine and I could use a little help
[17:08] <AbstinencePistol> I somehow wiped my Cave Story.sh file
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[17:08] <AbstinencePistol> Is there anyone that could somehow get me theirs even if that just meant opening it up in nano and taking a picture of their screen?
[17:08] <AbstinencePistol> It would be a huge help
[17:08] <AbstinencePistol> I can't find the file itself or any of its contents online anywhere
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[17:14] <[Saint]> AbstinencePistol: dude, for me, its the very first hit for "retropie cavestory.sh"
[17:14] <[Saint]> https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup/blob/master/scriptmodules/libretrocores/cavestory.sh
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[17:16] <AbstinencePistol> I think that might be different than what I'm looking at though
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[17:17] <[Saint]> though, I have to admit, I was kinda hoping to see someone post a jpeg (it'd have to be .jpeg, to make it more delicious) of a nano session.
[17:17] <AbstinencePistol> The path for mine is /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/ports/Cave Story.sh
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[17:17] <AbstinencePistol> Hahahahahaha that would be awful but pretty funny
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[17:20] <AbstinencePistol> Also
[17:20] <AbstinencePistol> that github page was last updated just a few days ago
[17:20] <AbstinencePistol> but I've had retropie installed for like a month and the website still shows the version that I'm using
[17:21] <AbstinencePistol> and on that one I just have a file there in place of the actual libretrocores folder
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[17:23] <AbstinencePistol> yeah that file references /roms/ports/Cave Story.sh which is the broken one
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[17:23] <Aldem> Cave Story
[17:23] <AbstinencePistol> yeah
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[17:24] <Aldem> Been a while
[17:24] <AbstinencePistol> Same here
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[17:24] <AbstinencePistol> That's why I want to get it working so I can play her through again
[17:25] <Aldem> Get the PC version
[17:25] <Aldem> Oh sorry
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[17:25] <Aldem> Though I was in #dolphin-emu
[17:25] <AbstinencePistol> I have the PC version on Steam yo
[17:25] <AbstinencePistol> Hahaha no worries
[17:25] <AbstinencePistol> It happens to the best of us
[17:25] <Aldem> ;)
[17:25] <Aldem> But yeah, good game
[17:25] <Aldem> Ballos was hard
[17:25] <AbstinencePistol> For sure
[17:26] <Aldem> The stage to him too
[17:26] <AbstinencePistol> Oh man Hell took me so many tries
[17:26] <AbstinencePistol> The worst was if you died to that giant final boss right before him
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[17:27] <Aldem> yeah
[17:27] <Aldem> 1st time I was like yeah, I beat the doctor
[17:28] <Aldem> Then I've read about the true boss :(
[17:28] <AbstinencePistol> I had it spoiled for me beforehand because I had (and still do) a really bad habit of spoiling games for myself before I play through them
[17:28] <AbstinencePistol> Ri
[17:29] <AbstinencePistol> p
[17:29] <AbstinencePistol> Rip 999 true ending
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[17:30] <[Saint]> what the hell?
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[17:30] <Aldem> I do look at youtube a little before buying a game
[17:30] <Aldem> But nothing too ''spoilerish''
[17:31] <[Saint]> all the references to Cave Story.sh I can dig up in their sources point to (several instances of):
[17:31] <[Saint]> function configure_cavestory() {
[17:31] <[Saint]> printMsg "Configuring cavestory"
[17:31] <[Saint]> if [[ ! -d $romdir/ports ]]; then
[17:31] <[Saint]> mkdir -p $romdir/ports
[17:31] <[Saint]> fi
[17:31] <[Saint]> cat > "$romdir/ports/Cave Story.sh" << _EOF_
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[17:31] <[Saint]> that's quite literally all she wrote.
[17:31] <AbstinencePistol> Yeah
[17:31] <AbstinencePistol> That's the issue
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[17:31] <[Saint]> did you know for a fact that this file actually contained any meaningful content?
[17:31] <AbstinencePistol> I had a friend send me screenshots of his doom.sh file but his Cave Story.sh file was blank
[17:31] <AbstinencePistol> Yes
[17:32] <AbstinencePistol> I had it open to edit it to change runcommand.sh to 4
[17:32] <AbstinencePistol> And same with doom.sh
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[17:32] <AbstinencePistol> And I guess the upload got fucked up because both of them became blank
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[17:32] <AbstinencePistol> And I replaced all the code in the Doom.sh file but not Cave Story
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[17:33] <AbstinencePistol> And other than the first line or so Duke and Doom aren't similar files so I don't know if it works for Cave Story at all
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[17:33] <[Saint]> AbstinencePistol: just try doing 'cat > "/full/path/to/your/.../ports/Cave Story.sh" << _EOF_'
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[17:33] <[Saint]> that's quite literally all the retropie setup seems to be doing.
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[17:33] <AbstinencePistol> Aldem: I looked up the endings and stuff before I played which made it a bit of a problem haha
[17:33] <[Saint]> I can't find anything else immediately obvious that's touching this.
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[17:34] <[Saint]> If there's meaningful content that's supposed to be there, I can't see where its coming from.
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[17:34] <AbstinencePistol> Are you sure? I'm sorry if I'm being really really stupid but it definitely used to contain something and it definitely worked at one point before I tried to change the screen settings and it got wiped
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[17:34] <AbstinencePistol> I'll try it through I suppose
[17:34] <AbstinencePistol> Can't hurt
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[17:36] <AbstinencePistol> Huh
[17:36] <AbstinencePistol> I guess I am really, really stupid
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[17:36] <AbstinencePistol> Because there is a line of code in that file that looks very similar to the Doom and Duke files
[17:36] <Aldem> No
[17:36] <AbstinencePistol> Welp
[17:36] <Aldem> It's just the week end
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[17:36] <AbstinencePistol> Hahahahaha thank god
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[17:38] <[Saint]> nah - s/he didn't do anything.
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[17:47] <AbstinencePistol> "/emulatorcores/nxengine-libretro - no such file or directory"
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[17:48] <AbstinencePistol> "/supplementary/runcommand/runcommand.sh - no such file or directory"
[17:48] <AbstinencePistol> this is going well
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[19:22] <Diplomat> Hello!
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[19:26] <nerdboy> https://github.com/VCTLabs/pi-sensor-test <= updated test/monitoring scripts here
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[19:30] <[Saint]> nerdboy: I'm not sure that's the comparison argument you're looking for
[19:35] <l_r> what's the app of the year?
[19:35] <[Saint]> your_mom.bin
[19:36] <nerdboy> i have arguments all the time... you'll need to be more specific...
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[19:36] <patchie> what is the best distro for my friend, who wants to use the raspberry as a workstation browsing the internet?
[19:36] <[Saint]> nerdboy: in case you're not aware, <= is "lesser than or equal to"
[19:36] <patchie> btw, i know that isnt the best task for the rpi
[19:37] <shiftplusone> patchie, doesn't matter, they're all terrible for that use case right now. Raspbian is what is directly supported by the foundation though.
[19:38] <nerdboy> probably didn't push the latest commit(s)...
[19:38] <patchie> what do you mean by "right now"?
[19:38] <shiftplusone> at this present moment in time
[19:38] <patchie> will it be any better?
[19:38] <shiftplusone> I don't know
[19:38] <patchie> cause i dont think so..
[19:39] <shiftplusone> but there's room for optimization
[19:39] <patchie> i think you must change the hw to make it better for that task..
[19:39] <shiftplusone> changing hardware to solve software problems is for the weak
[19:40] <patchie> i dont think this is a software problem..
[19:41] <nerdboy> raspbian is decent, it just has a few weird things
[19:41] <[Saint]> But as long as the Internet has Flash, its never going to be a valid solution, really.
[19:41] <[Saint]> Lets be honest.
[19:42] <shiftplusone> I don't see much flash nowadays
[19:42] <patchie> yeah
[19:42] <shiftplusone> it's unnecessary JS that seems to be the problem now.
[19:42] <patchie> but if you use adblock, will it work fast enough then?
[19:42] <[Saint]> there's necessary JS now?
[19:42] * [Saint] giggles
[19:43] <shiftplusone> Well, it has its uses.
[19:43] <[Saint]> patchie: does your friend already have the hardware in question?
[19:43] <[Saint]> If he doesn't...we can talk options.
[19:43] <shiftplusone> patchie, the 'optimized' epiphany browser already has adblock
[19:43] <patchie> he has a rpi yes
[19:44] <[Saint]> The ODROID C1, for instance, is similarly priced, and will have exactly zero issues functioning as a workstation.
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[19:44] <[Saint]> Oh...well, bugger
[19:44] <patchie> shiftplusone: is that the standard browser for raspbian?
[19:44] <shiftplusone> patchie, yes
[19:44] <patchie> aha
[19:44] <[Saint]> patchie: I don't suppose your friend is willing to spend another $35 USD? ;)
[19:45] <patchie> hehe, show me what i get for 35 usd
[19:45] <[Saint]> http://hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php
[19:45] <[Saint]> comparitively, you may well crap your pants.
[19:46] <[Saint]> it doesn't have the ethos or the community the raspi has, but I sense those aren't important.
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[19:46] <Twist-> Heh.. how about a used PC for $35? Or free?
[19:46] <Twist-> I'm sure you could get an old laptop thrown at you in anger somewhere.
[19:47] <[Saint]> Twist-: if its a quad-core 1.5GHz used PC with gigabit ethernet...maybe. ;)
[19:47] <patchie> [Saint]: can i install rpi distros on it?
[19:47] <[Saint]> no - and you wouldn't want to.
[19:47] <shiftplusone> there would be little point doing that
[19:47] <shiftplusone> just use debian armhf, ubuntu or whatever else they support.
[19:48] <patchie> it looks good
[19:48] <[Saint]> It is.
[19:48] <[Saint]> Community-wise, it sucks. Massively.
[19:48] <[Saint]> Hardware-wise, awesomesauce.
[19:49] <shiftplusone> If they can maintain availability, there's no reason community won't grow.
[19:49] <[Saint]> heres hoping.
[19:49] <shiftplusone> Though people are saying they take the "if you can't get it to work, you're an idiot" approach to support.
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[19:49] <[Saint]> Those people clearly lie.
[19:50] <[Saint]> That implies they take some form of approach to support, period.
[19:50] <shiftplusone> hm
[19:50] <Twist-> patchie: what's the use case? Just "cheap workstation?"
[19:50] <Twist-> does the form factor matter?
[19:51] <patchie> yeah, and must be small
[19:51] <patchie> just to look good in the livingroom
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[19:52] <Twist-> is it being attached to a TV?
[19:53] <patchie> nope
[19:53] <patchie> a computerscreen
[19:53] <Twist-> There went the "looks good in the living room" requirement. :D
[19:54] <patchie> heheh, well, it must be usefull aswell :P
[19:54] <Twist-> just seems like a cheap x86 would be more widely compatible and easier to deal with as a workstation.
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[19:55] <patchie> hehe, he wants something so small he can tape it underneath the desk..hehe
[19:57] <r0tt3npunk> ditch the desk, mount a pi to the back of the tv and connect it to the hdmi input and plug in a wireless adapter and wireless keyboard and surf the web on your tv.
[19:57] <patchie> well, that sucks :P
[19:57] <Twist-> r0tt3npunk: this ignores the original problem. The pi is a terrible web browser.
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[19:57] <patchie> i hate using my tv as a monitor when i am paying my bills..hehe
[19:58] <patchie> and when i'm watching porn, the pussy get a lot more tight on a small screen :P
[19:58] <[Saint]> ahem.
[19:58] <patchie> can't argue with that :P
[19:59] <Twist-> I can't argue with it, but you're about to discover that this channel is restricted to topics suitable for children.
[19:59] <patchie> sorry :P
[20:00] <patchie> but he will use the desk with the computer screen
[20:00] <Twist-> that might suggest a chromebox or bookshelf PC tucked behind the monitor on a VESA mount
[20:01] <r0tt3npunk> Twist: Why is the pi no good at browsing the web? My wifi adapter hasn't arrived yet but I can't imagine something that can do XMBC streaming or act as a wireless access point would have trouble loading a webpage.
[20:02] <[Saint]> r0tt3npunk: have fun the next time you hit some flash
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[20:03] <[Saint]> its /possible/, but it'll make you want to slit your wrists.
[20:03] <Twist-> r0tt3npunk: You're underestimating the memory footprint of a modern browser.
[20:04] <Twist-> r0tt3npunk: and the Pi's 2D graphics perfomance is pretty bad.
[20:05] <[Saint]> Of course, you could just use lynx & co., but one could justifiably argue that in this day and age that doesn't constitute web browsing.
[20:05] <r0tt3npunk> Yeah I was going to ask if w3m would work ok but I thought that doesn't really count
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[20:13] <Bilby> unnnngh
[20:13] <Bilby> not only are there roofers hammering on the ceiling above me, there are now ones hammering on the wall beside me
[20:13] <[Saint]> lies!
[20:13] <[Saint]> those would be 'wallers'.
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[20:17] <Bilby> lol
[20:18] <Bilby> they're about to be "nail gun shooting victims"
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[20:29] <totinoboy> is it not possible to have a round cable for the camera
[20:30] <[Saint]> Not if you want it to interface with a CSI port.
[20:32] <Bilby> totinoboy are you looking for something that's flexible, something that can move around?
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[20:33] <Bilby> or you can ignore me <_<
[20:34] <totinoboy> dunno
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[20:35] <totinoboy> was gonna try making a home security camera with the pi mounted inside the garage in a weather proof case, then was thinking of drilling a small hole through my motion lights and mounting the camera there
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[20:37] <totinoboy> but just brain storming here
[20:37] <totinoboy> would need a much more weatherproofed case for the camera itself too
[20:38] <totinoboy> someone lend me their 3d printer so i can make one with cut outs for ir leds thanks
[20:38] <Bilby> aha
[20:39] <Bilby> you can do that with the ribbon cable, they make longer ones
[20:39] <totinoboy> yeah i suppose
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[20:43] <[Saint]> you could use one of the bajillions of cameras marketed for this exact purpose.
[20:43] <[Saint]> you don't _have_ to use the CSI port.
[20:44] <[Saint]> in fact, doing so may be more of an inconvenience than anything.
[20:45] <[Saint]> the raspi camera has some non-trivial shortfalls - I would definitely look around to see if others are having reasonable success with similar tasks with results that please you.
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[20:58] <Bilby> [Saint] admittedly the quality is quite high compared to video capture on USB devices and such
[20:58] <Bilby> and i think the still photo quality is also a little higher
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[21:07] <SpeedEvil> It's a shame - because the OV range of cameras has one one up that's similar resolution and other configuration - but twice the pixel size - four times the area
[21:08] <SpeedEvil> ideal for 'night vision' type stuff
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[21:08] <Bilby> nice, if you can get it to interface with the pi
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[21:12] <Bilby> I was trying to build a panoramic time-lapse camera for a big meet-up I go to every year, and wanted to use the pi + camera for it
[21:12] <Bilby> unfortunately I killed the test camera i bought almost immediately :( which made me think that having 5 of them up on a 40ft pole running on deep-cycle batteries for a weekend wasn't likely to work out :(
[21:13] <Bilby> on a related note, that meetup is coming up in about 7 months. I wonder if I can use a USB webcam or 4 with a pi for the same purpose...
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[21:56] <nickgaw> Hi, With the gert board do they sell a gert board that is already soldered together?
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[22:00] <ShorTie> l@@ks like it http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-51726/l/assembled-gertboard-for-raspberry-pi
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[22:08] <Tachyon`> it is, yes
[22:09] <Tachyon`> originally it was sold as a kit but now it's fully assembled, not sure if there's a b+ specific variant
[22:09] <nickgaw> other then being already assembled is there any other differences in this gert board and the one you have to build yourself?
[22:10] <Tachyon`> well, the external power in circuitry is missing, or was on the one I got some time ago, takes power from the pi
[22:11] <Tachyon`> there's space on the board to fit it but it's not there by default
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[22:11] <nickgaw> so now the kit is no longer around for buying as I don't want to buy the wrong thing?
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[22:14] <ShorTie> but soldering is half the fun .. :)~
[22:14] <nickgaw> what about heat sinks for the raspberrypi that covers more then just one chip do they make good ones that stay on once they are applied?
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[22:15] <ShorTie> no need for heat sinks
[22:15] <ShorTie> they can actually do more harm then good
[22:15] <nickgaw> even when it is over clocked to 1 ghz and set for performance mode so it always stays ready at that clock speed?
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[22:16] <ShorTie> yup.
[22:16] <nickgaw> can it go faster then 1 ghz?
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[22:16] <ShorTie> not without setting the warrenty bit
[22:17] <nickgaw> as I have had mine over a year will that matter anymore?
[22:18] <nickgaw> how fast can it go if I set the warrenty?
[22:19] <ShorTie> don't know, i normally do not over clock
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[22:19] <nickgaw> can it be underclocked?
[22:19] <ShorTie> i just buy a better board/chip
[22:19] <ShorTie> sure, unplug it
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[22:19] * ShorTie snickers
[22:20] <Froolap> stop that, you are frightning the chickens
[22:20] <nickgaw> are there arm systems like the raspberrypi that are faster then that out of the box?
[22:21] <ShorTie> oh ya
[22:21] <shiftplusone> nickgaw, you can't void warranty by overclocking alone. You need to do some other things as well.
[22:22] <nickgaw> I am aware about the bit you set in the config.txt file but once I do this once can I go back and after a year is my warrenty still around?
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[22:27] <nickgaw> is the normal model B board still being sold?
[22:28] <abnormal> yes
[22:28] <abnormal> have to hunt for them
[22:29] <abnormal> Adafruit.com still sells them
[22:30] <Bilby> yes, whatever old stock is out there still
[22:30] <ShorTie> and the laws of supply and demand are kicking in, so they maybe more $$'s
[22:30] <Bilby> afaik though it's no longer being produced so it's just "whatever's on the shelf"
[22:31] <Bilby> ShorTie I think you're going in the wrong direction mate ;) "last years model" = discounts to get it gone. But demand is high enough it'll probably just stay at the sticker price
[22:31] <nickgaw> why did they go from a normal SD card to a micro SD card this is what I don't like?
[22:31] <Bilby> nickgaw There were problems with the friction-fit SD slot, cards coming loose. Plus it ends up being a fairly large part of the overall footprint
[22:31] <ShorTie> not from what i've seen, but what ever
[22:31] <shiftplusone> Yes, model bs are still being produced!
[22:31] <Bilby> oh?
[22:32] <Bilby> Interesting, sorry I was under the impression they were discontinued like the model a is
[22:32] <shiftplusone> Not so much right now, due to the demand for B+s over the christmas period, but they are still being made.
[22:32] <Bilby> well right you are - http://www.raspberrypi.org/fresh-model-b-stock-in-production/
[22:33] <Bilby> the explination makes sense - enough people are using these in production environments that have customized enclosurees / etc
[22:33] <Bilby> so there's significant ongoing demand to keep the B
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[22:33] <Bilby> TIL, haha
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[22:42] <abnormal> yeh, I ordered a mod A from Amazon... dang they sent me a mod B 256mb one, suckers...
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[22:42] <nickgaw> .
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[22:44] <nickgaw> are you going to send it back?
[22:45] <froopy> where's best (cheapest) place to buy a raspberry pi B+ (in US)??
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[22:46] <Bilby> abnormal so you decided to keep it? :P
[22:46] <abnormal> no. keeping it... it is a first batch mass produced mod A and will be worth millions over time...
[22:46] <Bilby> froopy lots of options, might be local stores that have it, few different amazon sellers, all of the official stores
[22:46] <Bilby> element14 et al
[22:47] <Bilby> I got my Pi and camrea from element 14, SD cards from amazon, wolfson card from microcenter
[22:47] <abnormal> microcenter?
[22:47] <nickgaw> does the camers board connect to the GPIO port on the raspberrypi?
[22:48] <ShorTie> mght l@@k at newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=raspberry+pi&N=-1&isNodeId=1
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[22:48] * ShorTie notices the B is 2 bucks more
[22:48] <Bilby> abnormal computer store chain
[22:49] <Yohio> honest question: do people trust the Pi enough to have it as a device that controls something critical?
[22:49] <Bilby> nickgaw camera connects to a zif ribbon slot on the pi
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[22:49] <abnormal> sure, they plan to send some to the ISS for testing, Yohio
[22:50] <Bilby> neat :D
[22:50] <Bilby> As a small computer it's a pretty rock-solid device, and i know they've been in high / low temps with pretty decent survivability rates
[22:50] <Bilby> at worst, they're no worse than a standard desktop computer
[22:51] <froopy> thanks Bilby & ShorTie
[22:51] <nickgaw> so when I buy it will it come with the cable to connect it and can I have both the gert board and camera board connected at the same time?
[22:51] * Bilby notices that the B+ is 50 cents cheaper than MCM on amazon... and $10.50 cheaper after shipping
[22:51] <shiftplusone> nickgaw, camera connects using a flat flex connector (there's one for a display and one for the camera)
[22:52] <Yohio> abnormal: that sounds great
[22:52] <Bilby> nickgaw yes, a ribbon comes with the camera, and yes
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[22:52] <shiftplusone> so yes, it doesn't interfere with GPIO header stuff
[22:52] <Bilby> nickgaw camera board --> http://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-accessories/raspberry-pi-camera-board?ICID=rpiBplus-crosspromo-bullet
[22:53] <Bilby> ... so does anyone else hate the layout and design of element14.com, or is it just me?
[22:53] <Bilby> I find it so bloody difficult to navigate i search the site using google or buy somewhere else out of sheer exasperation
[22:54] * shiftplusone shrugs
[22:54] <shiftplusone> haven't used element14 in a while
[22:54] <abnormal> then use Adafruit.com
[22:54] <nickgaw> does mcmelectronics sell both assembled gert board and camera board so I can buy them together?
[22:54] <abnormal> or go to github site and find the info...
[22:55] <Bilby> abnormal 'spose i could. I haven't ordered from adafruit yet (i think)
[22:55] <abnormal> you should be able to... go look in their site...
[22:55] <nickgaw> they only have one gert board but not sure if it is the kit or complet assembled board?
[22:55] <abnormal> Adafruit.com is a nice site, but more $
[22:56] <abnormal> then go to Element14.com
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[22:59] <nickgaw> can the newer model b+ work with 64 GB cards or is 32 GB the limit
[23:00] <abnormal> did you look in raspberrypi.org for that answer?
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[23:00] <Duality> hi all
[23:01] <nickgaw> most googleing I can do says 32 GB is the limit.
[23:01] <Duality> i was wondering if i could take over the console that is started when the pi starts without X
[23:01] <abnormal> ok, lemme look for you...
[23:01] <Duality> i am sitting on a remote machine ssh'd in
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[23:02] <nickgaw> but sometimes you can format a card is such a way it will work on other devices.
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[23:02] <shiftplusone> agh
[23:03] <shiftplusone> where? who says 32GB is the limit?
[23:03] <Duality> i tryed echoing stuff to tty1 and that gets me text on screen but i can't really manipulate the console
[23:03] <Bilby> I'm pretty sure the wiki says higher cards work..
[23:04] <nickgaw> I do know that the normal model B only supports up to 32 gb cards. youtube had videos on this once.
[23:04] <shiftplusone> Yes, all card work. The only 'catch' is that if you use NOOBS, some formatting tools will format the card as exfat, which won't work, so you need to make sure that you format it as fat32. This is only relevant if you use NOOBS.
[23:04] <shiftplusone> nickgaw, no no no no no >_< There isn't and has never been any capacity size
[23:04] <nickgaw> I am using raspbian.
[23:04] <shiftplusone> *capacity limit
[23:05] <abnormal> nickgaw, http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#sdMax
[23:05] <Bilby> I set the rasberry pi on fire, is that compatible? :P
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[23:05] <Duality> i tried this: echo -e -n "robert \n" >> /dev/tty1 but that does not trigger the password prompt
[23:05] <abnormal> why?
[23:06] <shiftplusone> Duality, I don't understand what you're trying to do.
[23:06] <Bilby> Duality so you were able to ssh in but you can't get a command prompt?
[23:06] <Duality> well i have a terminal. i am just wondering if i could controle the terminal that appears on my screen
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[23:06] <Duality> on my raspberry pi screen
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[23:07] <shiftplusone> it sounds like what you actually want to use is 'screen'. Set up auto-login and then in bashrc, make it start screen. Then you can attach to it.
[23:07] <Bilby> aha
[23:08] <Bilby> sounds like shiftplusone knows how to fix it
[23:09] <Duality> shiftplusone: i actually want everything i do appear on the display
[23:09] <shiftplusone> yeah, screen will do that.
[23:10] * Xark notes you can start screen manually (once), then just use "screen -r -d" to reconnect after that (no bashrc changes needed).
[23:10] <shiftplusone> yeah, that might be worth doing once to make sure that this setup works for you. Then automate if you're happy with it
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[23:12] <Duality> ok i put screen in bashrc and restarted all i get in my ssh is a screen intro thing and then it ends
[23:13] <shiftplusone> it doesn't end, you now have screen running, but that's not what I meant for you to do.
[23:13] <RalfJ> hi - i have a weird issue here: on my rasperry pi, using raspbian jessie, the wireless using wicd worked exactly once. I did a reboot then, and now "ip addr" does not even show wlan0 anymore. "lsusb" still shows the card but no network device is created. I currently have no idea what could be causing this...
[23:13] <RalfJ> I also just noticed that "sudo lsmod" does not list anything. that sounds wrong to me...
[23:13] <shiftplusone> There would need to be a check that you're running in tty1, if so, then run screen. What you did means that now you have screen starting everywhere, which is not what you want.
[23:15] <RalfJ> trying to load a module manually gives "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'cfg80211': Exec format error"
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[23:17] <Duality> shiftplusone: i am sorry i don't understand :)
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[23:34] <Duality> shiftplusone: this does exactly what i want :) https://github.com/lornix/fauxcon
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[23:47] <Jckf> What to do?
[23:49] <Duality> shiftplusone: ok i have autolog in now and it starts screen. also starts screen if i ssh into the pi.
[23:49] <Duality> but
[23:49] <Duality> when i take over that screen window and i type things nothing appears
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[23:51] <Duality> so how would i check for what tty i am running ?
[23:55] <Jckf> Type tty?
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[23:57] <Duality> Jckf: i see but i need to check in bash if tty == tty1
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