#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2014-12-24

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[0:30] <Bilby> Encapsulation not without some additional circuitry to bump 3.3v up to 5v and / or a transistor to switch a separate 5v rail
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[1:04] <Duality> hi
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[1:05] <Duality> i have some strange thing happen, when i try any of the python pygame examples in pygame folder on the pi, X seems to crash there is a sharp chrip for a split second
[1:05] <Duality> and the screen goes black
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[1:06] <Encapsulation> what is the easiest way to control three 12 volt motors with PWM using the raspberry pi?
[1:07] <Duality> a transistor
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[1:08] <MeEtc> maybe one of these? https://www.adafruit.com/product/815
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[1:08] <Encapsulation> I need to control them individually I should mention
[1:09] <Encapsulation> hmm, that looks like it might be just what I need.
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[1:14] <Duality> Encapsulation: you can
[1:16] <Encapsulation> if the flow rate of the peristaltic pump is 0-60ml/min is there really any reason to control the speed with PWM? couldnt I just switch the pump at full speed with a mosfet and run it for fractions of a second
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[1:17] <Encapsulation> or even seconds
[1:17] <Encapsulation> 1 second should equal roughly 1 ml
[1:18] <Jckf> Assuming the pump instantly reaches full flow
[1:18] <Jckf> Not likely
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[1:20] <Encapsulation> it still seems like I could experiment a bit and find some activation time to acheive the ml transfer required
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[1:21] <Encapsulation> they don't lose prime so the accuracy seems like it would be reasonable
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[1:22] <Encapsulation> consistent accuracy to the ml would be desirable though
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[1:24] <Jckf> Encapsulation: You might want to run it constantly at a low RPM then, I think. Does it let you read the RPM?
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[1:26] <Encapsulation> no its this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/130944773950
[1:26] <Encapsulation> it sounds like a soft start via pwm would be ideal to prolong the life of the motor
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[1:28] <Encapsulation> a stepper driven pump would be a better solution maybe but thats out of the price range for this project
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[1:40] <Encapsulation> http://forums.adafruit.com/download/file.php?id=8164
[1:40] <Encapsulation> I think thats all I need
[1:40] <shiftplusone> That doesn't look like love.
[1:41] <shiftplusone> but to drive a motor, the essentials seem to be there.
[1:41] <Jobbe> heh neat, made a dd backup the other night of my rpi, i just fucked raspbian up on a headless rpi and needed to restore to my "base image" :) works like a charm
[1:43] <shiftplusone> Jobbe, might want to regenerate the ssh hostkeys to prevent "man in the middle" attack warnings.
[1:43] <shiftplusone> but also, channel language policy.
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[1:43] <Jobbe> shiftplusone: nah no problem :)
[1:44] <Jobbe> this is a test box, no need to worry hehe - I will consider it when i have my final images :)
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[2:18] <Encapsulation> Of the these three options, which would be the best option for controlling three 12v dc motors with PWM? http://www.ebay.com/itm/331413242862?autorefresh=true&autorefresh=true http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-16-Channel-12-bit-PWM-Servo-Driver-I2C-interface-PCA9685-For-Arduino-New-/131339363460?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e946fa484 http://forums.adafruit.com/download/file.php?id=8164&sid=228e476d62160ce3ec8e065b7c8bd607
[2:19] <shiftplusone> do you need to control the direction?
[2:19] <Encapsulation> no
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[2:20] <shiftplusone> I'd go with the last, diy option then
[2:20] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't say it's the best though
[2:22] <Encapsulation> if the diy option isnt really any cheaper is it still the most logical choice?
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[2:22] <shiftplusone> more educational, if nothing else.
[2:23] <shiftplusone> The things is that if you're into electronics, you probably already have the parts, so it's a 'free' option. Then when you're done, you can reuse the parts for other things.
[2:24] <shiftplusone> With the other boards, sure they're handy to have, but you learn nothing and you're buying a board to do one thing.
[2:24] <shiftplusone> But if we're focusing on reusability, then the hbridge option is nice.
[2:25] <shiftplusone> Though is says stepper motor controller... does it ONLY do stepper motor control or what? I haven't looked at the datasheet for the chip on there
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[2:25] <shiftplusone> ah "module can drive 2 DC motors simultaneously, or one 4-wire 2-phase stepping motor"
[2:25] <shiftplusone> nvrm
[2:25] <Encapsulation> http://nvhs.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/datasheet-l9110.pdf
[2:26] <Encapsulation> maybe that would be better. I don't have the mosfets or the diodes right now I'm just getting into all this
[2:26] <Encapsulation> I'm trying to make a larger idea reality and I want to bring all the pieces of it together cleanly
[2:26] <Encapsulation> it would be nice to have the option to upgrade the cheap motors to steppers later
[2:26] <Encapsulation> for more precise control
[2:27] <Encapsulation> http://www.ebay.com/itm/130944773950 these are what im controlling
[2:28] <Encapsulation> so the difference between those two premade boards from what I understand is that one does PWM on a chip and communicates with the pi via i2c, the other just has h-gates and the pwm would be done via software on the pi
[2:28] <Encapsulation> the 5 separate h gate boards seem like they might be the best bet id only need to use two of them and id have 3 spares for later projects. all for the same money as id spend on the mosfets for the diy option
[2:29] <Encapsulation> I could also use them to upgrade to steppers later
[2:34] <Encapsulation> those h bridge boards can switch a 12v external supply?
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[2:36] <Encapsulation> https://www.bananarobotics.com/shop/HG7881-%28L9110%29-Dual-Channel-Motor-Driver-Module
[2:36] <Encapsulation> I'm not sure if that board will do what I need or not
[2:36] <Encapsulation> looks like the same thing from ebay
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[2:47] <Jobbe> Heh, i just ran my decaPItate script on raspbian, to make it headless and remove all the packages for desktop use, little over 2 gigs was removed :)
[2:47] <Jobbe> Very curious to see if it reboots
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[3:42] <[Ex0r]> wow, I do not like this model b+ at all, it seems so much more unstable than the normal model b
[3:43] <Datalink> donno how that'd be, if they're using the same disk image, chipset, drivers...
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[3:43] <[Ex0r]> Exactly my point
[3:43] <[Ex0r]> i've got two model b+'s now, both with the same hardware and disk image, and they both keep continually crashing while the model b is going strong
[3:44] <shiftplusone> Really, the only thing that changed is the power circuit, and certainly for the better. So maybe it would be a good idea to diagnose what's actually going wrong rather than claiming it's unstable.
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[3:44] <Datalink> my first path of troubleshooting would be peripherals... after that I'd see what differs between a known good disk image and the ones on the B+ units
[3:44] <shiftplusone> Do they all use the same power supply and cable?
[3:44] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- The two model b+'s do
[3:45] <shiftplusone> but does the b?
[3:45] <Datalink> [Ex0r], are they the same as other RPis you own?
[3:45] <shiftplusone> since that's where the difference is. And what you're describing sounds like a power issue
[3:45] <[Ex0r]> The b has a 1.5amp while the b+ both have 2amp
[3:45] <shiftplusone> Doesn't matter what it says on it
[3:45] <Datalink> try the B+ on the known good supply
[3:45] <[Ex0r]> Datalink- I own three, two model b+'s, one model b
[3:45] <shiftplusone> the quality of the supply AND the cable is more important than the current rating printer on the supply.
[3:46] <shiftplusone> *printed
[3:46] <[Ex0r]> Datalink- I tried one pi on the 1.5amp, it locks up almost before it even finishes booting
[3:46] <Datalink> okay, try a B+ on the known good supply.
[3:46] <[Ex0r]> or reboots
[3:46] <Datalink> try the same microSD on the B?
[3:46] <Datalink> could be image issues with the SD
[3:47] <[Ex0r]> B doesn't use microsd, I could use an adapter but would that really be a reliable way to test ?
[3:47] <Datalink> yes
[3:47] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], what happens to the red LED. Is it constantly on or does it flicker?
[3:47] <[Ex0r]> I just find it odd both of the B+'s have the same hardware and setup as the model b, but only those two have the issues
[3:47] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- It stays constant
[3:48] <shiftplusone> Anything in console?
[3:48] <[Ex0r]> and sometimes during reboot it keeps getting segment faults
[3:48] <Datalink> if the B can work on the same image as the B+ and doesn't crash, then you likely have hardware issues on the B+, if the MicroSD shows boot issues, you'll have to re-image it
[3:48] <shiftplusone> that might indicate what the problem is
[3:48] <shiftplusone> segfault....
[3:48] <shiftplusone> that sounds like a software issue
[3:48] <[Ex0r]> How could that be when the image works fine on the b ?
[3:48] <Jobbe> [03:42:21] < [Ex0r]>| wow, I do not like this model b+ at all, it seems so much more unstable than the normal model b
[3:48] <Jobbe> unstable ?
[3:49] <Datalink> [Ex0r], it could have had issues during the DD... the test I've proposed is to rule that variable out or point it out
[3:49] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], a lot could happen between starting to write the image and where you are now. Switching the same card back and forth might be a good idea to check
[3:49] <shiftplusone> and always keep an eye on the red LED
[3:50] <[Ex0r]> Datalink- I've reflashed the image onto all three devices several times over and the model b is still working fine, it's only the b+'s, and swapping the two model b+ cards doesnt change anything
[3:50] <shiftplusone> Also, what peripherals are plugged in?
[3:50] <Jobbe> I've done some heavy work on my B+ and it seems quite stable tbh
[3:50] <[Ex0r]> a wireless NIC and a usb thumb drive
[3:50] <[Ex0r]> all three the exact same brand/model
[3:50] <shiftplusone> have you tried bumping up the current limit on the b+?
[3:50] <Datalink> [Ex0r], okay, have you tried running the physical MicroSD on the B, it could be corrupt
[3:50] <shiftplusone> in config.txt, try max_usb_current=1
[3:50] <[Ex0r]> Datalink- both of them corrupt at the same time ?
[3:51] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone- No, I haven't yet.
[3:51] <Datalink> [Ex0r], it could even be a problem with your MicroSD burner, I'm trying to remove variables... it's possible the test'll come up with no fault
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[3:52] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], don't dismiss ideas. The point is that the B+ being unstable just because it's a B+ is much more unlikely than sd card corruption. It's a good idea to be thorough. I actually suggest you follow through and rule out any and all potential problems on your end and then get it replaced, since it might be faulty.
[3:52] <Datalink> troubleshooting means doing a lot of things till you can find the 1 reason it's breaking, this includes a lot of stuff that has a chance of working
[3:52] <aum> hi - does anyone know of any RPi modules for high power applications, for example, turning mains heaters on and off?
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[3:52] <MeEtc> aum: did something similar today
[3:52] <aum> or do people more often just connect a PLC?
[3:52] <Datalink> aum, you could use a relay or solid-state relay for it
[3:52] <MeEtc> you will need to get a relay
[3:53] <shiftplusone> aum, I think this is the safest option http://www.raspberrypi.org/controlling-electrical-sockets-with-energenie-pi-mote/
[3:53] <aum> prefer to avoid relay since in some cases I want to do rapid switching, so would probably need a triac-based circuit
[3:53] <shiftplusone> aum, otherwise, a properly specced relay board will do it.
[3:53] <shiftplusone> oh... rapid
[3:53] <shiftplusone> nvrm
[3:53] <Jobbe> [Ex0r]: I've experienced my USB sticks and SD cards become unstable over time, how old is the SD cards you use ?
[3:53] <MeEtc> depends on the wattage
[3:54] <aum> for instance, I want to PWM a 2kW heater
[3:54] <shiftplusone> aum, in that case, I would take a look at how people do PID control on diy reflow ovens and see what components they use.
[3:54] <MeEtc> err, why do you want to pwm a heater, to lower the output?
[3:54] <shiftplusone> for example, https://github.com/0xPIT/reflowOvenController
[3:54] <[Ex0r]> Jobbe- I am not sure how long they sat on best buy's shelves, but they are brand new as of yesterday to me
[3:55] <aum> MeEtc, yes, to have wide range of power control
[3:55] <shiftplusone> aum, but also... all the standard warnings with working with mains.... if you need to ask something like that, maybe you shouldn't do it (yet).
[3:55] <[Ex0r]> sandisk 16gb ultra hd micro sd cards. The normal sd card is the same, just not micro
[3:55] <Datalink> aum, shiftplusone's link for the reflow controller would likely provide a circuit very close to what you're after, since they do the same method.
[3:55] <aum> Datalink, ok, thx
[3:56] <Jobbe> [Ex0r]: then it should not be an issue, I've had this one USB stick I've used several times to install systems, I dd alot, but it seems this stick has become unstable as it will fail alot during installs, but using another stick, no problem :)
[3:56] <Datalink> [Ex0r], even retailers have gotten clones at times and not known it, I am going to again stress actual testing
[3:56] <MeEtc> for reference, i'm an electrician by trade. I'd recommend controlling the current or voltage rather than PWM in this case
[3:56] <aum> I could settle for relays, but their contacts tend to fry after a few thousand cycles
[3:56] <Jobbe> [Ex0r]: ah sandisk is alriht :)
[3:56] <shiftplusone> how well do solid state relays work? Do they go up to main voltages?
[3:56] <aum> MeEtc, what approach would you recommend for controlling current or voltage through a length of nichrome heating wire?
[3:57] <aum> shiftplusone, good thought - hope so
[3:57] <Datalink> shiftplusone, yeah, though they're not good on exceptionally high rated circuits, in this case I'd probably parallel 2 or 3 to spread the load
[3:57] <Datalink> aum, https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10636
[3:57] <shiftplusone> hm haven't used them myself. How fast can they be switched?
[3:57] <aum> the big picture is I'm looking to use an RPi to completely eliminate the need for PLCs
[3:58] <Datalink> though a FET might also be an option to build a proper voltage choke, the circuit for it would be more complex
[3:58] <MeEtc> I've never encountered anywhere I'd have to do that before, but I'd see if you can spec a variac for such an application
[3:58] <Datalink> aum, is this for an industrial application, PLCs are usually factory control modules
[3:58] <aum> Datalink, looks great, and sanely priced -=- thanks for the link
[3:58] <shiftplusone> ah, the PID controller circuit I linked earlier uses solid state relays
[3:58] <Datalink> aum, you're welcome, I would check it's datasheet carefully
[3:58] <aum> Datalink, no - therapy pool controller application
[3:59] <Datalink> aaaah, good reason to want precise control, definately look at shiftplusone's link for details, it's the same application at heart
[3:59] <MeEtc> if your heater doesn't have any other controls built in, use a variac
[4:00] <aum> Datalink, that SS Relay looks sweet - optical coupling to eliminate need for weird design
[4:00] <Datalink> heh, if it hits temperatures regularly, you could actually shunt it through multiple relays and properly calibrated resistors, or other rheostats
[4:00] <Datalink> basically turn one on for this temp, turn it off and another on for that temp, etc
[4:00] <MeEtc> what voltage does this heater run off?
[4:01] <aum> MeEtc, 240VAC @ 50 Hz (New Zealand)
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[4:01] <Ephexeve> Hey guys, tryin to install freebsd on rpi, apparently doing a DD is not working. When I boot the green led goes off, or it stays on and nothing happens. Any idea here?
[4:01] <Ephexeve> Basically I tried to run 'dd if=FreeBSD-10.1-STABLE-arm-armv6-RPI-B-20141222-r276051.img of=/dev/rdisk2' and also tried with bs=1m
[4:02] <SpeedEvil> PIDs are readily available and cheap or controlling temperature
[4:02] <MeEtc> that SSR that was linked will be inadequate
[4:02] <aum> on a whole different note - is there a favoured colour LCD touchscreen which is easy to setup as an X Server? Or should I just use a crap-cheap Android 7" tablet?
[4:03] <MeEtc> you need something that can handle at least 10.5A
[4:03] <Datalink> aum, that ssr is, unfortunately, calibrated for US voltage, you might want to look in similar families of products with higher ratings, Digikey sourcing would be my route
[4:03] <MeEtc> Datalink, 240V is used in usa
[4:03] <Datalink> aum, Adafruit has a couple kits, resistive and capacitive, even have Pibow based cases for those displays (I would prefer to waterproof)
[4:04] <aum> Datalink, are they hard to get going as RPi X servers?
[4:04] <SpeedEvil> MeEtc: 220V is
[4:04] <MeEtc> no, its 240. trust me
[4:04] <Datalink> aum, Adafruit has links to tutorials on the product pages
[4:04] <MeEtc> that SSR can support up to 400V
[4:05] <Datalink> I may have read the spec wrong
[4:05] <MeEtc> but only 8a. 2kW heater at 240V dras 8.33A. take at 80% for a continious draw, and you need minimum 10.41A rating
[4:05] <aum> Datalink, agreed - 600V peak would be wiser for local voltage
[4:05] <Datalink> ah I was looking at the recommended on page 8 of the datasheet
[4:06] <Ephexeve> anyone?
[4:07] <Datalink> Ephexeve, afraid I have no experience in FreeBSD, I had a roommate in college who worked in it at the time... as close as I got, sorry
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[4:08] <shiftplusone> Ephexeve, yeah, sorry. Not many people here run FreeBSD (if any).
[4:08] <Ephexeve> :( Datalink thanks buddy
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[4:08] <Ephexeve> shiftplusone: yeah :(
[4:08] <Ephexeve> I wanted to run arch linux.. but I am on a mac, and I cannot format ext4 and etc
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[4:08] <shiftplusone> Ephexeve, could run a vm.
[4:09] <MeEtc> on another note, finished my Pi powered gift that will be under the tree tomorrow
[4:09] <shiftplusone> MeEtc, cool, what is it?
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[4:09] <MeEtc> http://imgur.com/a/VQ8eh
[4:09] <Datalink> aum, http://www.adafruit.com/products/1601 this is one of them, they have 2 versions, as I said
[4:09] <shiftplusone> Nice
[4:09] <shiftplusone> Just the image alone screams "most obnoxious thing in the world"
[4:10] <shiftplusone> I need an alarm clock like that, I think.
[4:10] * ShorTie snickers
[4:10] <Datalink> MeEtc, I have to forward that to a hockey friend I know...
[4:10] <MeEtc> it does have a volume control, so its not outrageously obnoxious
[4:10] <MeEtc> sure!
[4:11] <MeEtc> its a home made version of the ones Budweiser makes
[4:11] <[Ex0r]> hmm that adafruit plugs right into the pi ?
[4:11] <MeEtc> after testing tonight, it has a delay of only ~10s from a live game
[4:11] <shiftplusone> yup
[4:11] <[Ex0r]> wow, that's pretty nice
[4:11] <[Ex0r]> and its only $40
[4:11] <Datalink> [Ex0r], yeah, right on top, uses an SPI based display buffer, so it does take a bit of system overhead, but not much
[4:12] <aum> needs a decent enclosure
[4:12] <shiftplusone> Notro did a lot of optimization on the driver, so it shouldn't be a whole lot of overhead
[4:12] <[Ex0r]> I wonder if running that with xbmc would push the limits of the pi
[4:12] <Datalink> they have a PiBow varient for them, though like I said, if you're working with water, you will definately want to waterproof
[4:12] <aum> so the touchscreen, plus a decent GPIO board, and a board of SSRs, would sort out most of my hardware
[4:13] <Datalink> [Ex0r], I don't think so, Linux itself treats it the same, you just won't get any of the hardware acceleration specific to the GPU, but that's not a lot, last I checked.
[4:13] <[Ex0r]> well I was just wondering if since it carries more overhead if it would put more stress on the pi. That's pretty interesting.
[4:14] <[Ex0r]> wasnt there an official lcd screen made for the pi
[4:14] <[Ex0r]> or maybe im thinking of the camera
[4:14] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], yes, but it's not out yet.
[4:14] <Datalink> camera, the screen's been 'coming soon' for a while afaik
[4:14] <[Ex0r]> oh, I see, lol
[4:14] <shiftplusone> It turned out to be very noisy, so needed more work to pass emc testing
[4:14] <[Ex0r]> did any of you see the 'banana pie'
[4:14] <[Ex0r]> supposedly the chinese made one with 1gb of ram, and a dual core processor
[4:15] <shiftplusone> yes, not very interesting.
[4:15] <MeEtc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZowB0KEHZtg
[4:15] <shiftplusone> take a look at odroid c1 instead.
[4:15] <Datalink> yeah, it doesn't specifically interest me, likely to have less hardware support
[4:15] <Datalink> shiftplusone, odroid was going to make a smaller version but they've had a hard time sourcing the chips if I recall
[4:15] <[Ex0r]> Im just waiting for the pi to come with a gig of ram. I know the current system cant do it, but it would be cool for a model c version or something that did
[4:15] <shiftplusone> Datalink, C1, not W.
[4:15] <Datalink> oh, right, mybad, been a while, I'm rusty
[4:16] <[Ex0r]> wow, that odroid looks cool, but its 179 bucks
[4:16] <shiftplusone> you're not looking at the right one
[4:16] <[Ex0r]> ooh a $35 dollar one
[4:17] <shiftplusone> yes, the C1 is the $35 one
[4:17] <[Ex0r]> I might have to check that out sometime. Is that a molex power connector on it ?
[4:17] <Datalink> I'd love to see a Pi-like system built around the Xilinx Zinq...
[4:18] <shiftplusone> It's like a pi on steroids for the same price. Of course it has some drawbacks compared to the pi, but for the price....
[4:18] <[Ex0r]> shiftplusone draw backs ?
[4:18] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], well, no way to connect a camera without CPU overhead and USB bandwidth, for example.
[4:19] <shiftplusone> and lack of support, documentation, community.
[4:19] <[Ex0r]> oh, gotcha. If it wasn't to be used for a camera though, that wouldn't really be an issue. Would prob. be hard to find software that works for it though.
[4:19] <shiftplusone> Should pretty much be the same software
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[4:19] <Datalink> MeEtc, how many watts is that amp?
[4:19] <[Ex0r]> looks like it runs ubuntu 14 though, which is kind of nice.
[4:20] <[Ex0r]> and it has support for connecting a rechargeable battery to it..
[4:21] <shiftplusone> and it has an RTC. Yes, it's definitely a nice board. I have no idea how they're able to sell it for that price, but it's interesting.
[4:21] <[Ex0r]> It's chinese, that's how
[4:21] <shiftplusone> (unlike the banana pi)
[4:21] <[Ex0r]> Korean*
[4:21] <shiftplusone> South Korean, but yes, I'm sure it's all sourced from and made in China.
[4:21] <[Ex0r]> I might have to order one and play around with it, it looks interesting.
[4:22] <[Ex0r]> I'll move my PI to my car with my LCD screen and use this as my media center
[4:22] <ozzzy> nothing wrong with chinese stuff
[4:22] <[Ex0r]> depends what it is
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[4:23] <ShorTie> almost everything is chinese now
[4:23] <shiftplusone> There's very little non-chinese stuff and most of it seems to be more than good enough.
[4:24] <[Ex0r]> oh and it looks like the odroid actually has a power on/off circuit
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[4:27] <Datalink> MeEtc, my hockey friend's suggested the Tampa Bay Lightning horn varient, which also plays music... I imagine you'd probably wanna match your favorite team though
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[4:27] <Datalink> blah, I need to fix synergy, gimme a sec, I got the link on my other computer
[4:28] <shiftplusone> Woo, synergy!
[4:28] <shiftplusone> When it works, it's great.
[4:29] <Datalink> yeah, the last update broke it... completely on my network
[4:29] <Datalink> which blows because I prefer my trackball to my tablet's touchpad or screen for precision work
[4:30] <Datalink> MeEtc, http://wonderchef.pridelands.org/Tampa_Bay_Lightning_Horn_2014.mp3 my friend's suggestion
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[4:31] <Datalink> actually I think he's just suggesting the variation of ones that aren't just the buzzer
[4:31] <Aldem> What's a nice first project for a RPi ? (b+)
[4:32] <ShorTie> get it to boot
[4:32] <shiftplusone> Aldem, what would you like to learn and what interests you?
[4:32] <Aldem> I don't really know lol
[4:32] <MeEtc> Datalink, thanks, i'll look
[4:32] <Aldem> But I like audio stuff
[4:33] <MeEtc> the amp is 25W
[4:33] <Datalink> MeEtc, another URL in a sec, like I said, different computer, hard to relay with Synergy borked
[4:33] * shiftplusone shrugs
[4:33] <u-ou> does anybody know a good resource for learning assembly language programming on/for the raspberry pi?
[4:33] <shiftplusone> u-ou, bare metal or linux?
[4:34] <u-ou> well, both interest me
[4:34] <shiftplusone> sec
[4:34] <u-ou> but maybe the latter first
[4:34] <MeEtc> Datalink, first that first horn is for TD Garden / Boston, but I'll consider saving the song part
[4:34] <u-ou> though bare metal links are fine too =)
[4:34] <MeEtc> and its way too loud
[4:34] <Datalink> MeEtc, also he sent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvcChdadT14 considering it's a Pi, you could probably easilly have it provide horns from multiple sources
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[4:34] <MeEtc> all i need is an mp3
[4:34] <Datalink> I am just relaying from a hockey player
[4:34] <shiftplusone> bare metal: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/os/ https://github.com/dwelch67/raspberrypi https://github.com/PeterLemon/RaspberryPi
[4:35] <shiftplusone> linux: http://thinkingeek.com/2013/01/09/arm-assembler-raspberry-pi-chapter-1/
[4:35] <MeEtc> i do hope to add support for other leagues in the future
[4:35] <MeEtc> but i need to find a data feed for live scores
[4:35] <shiftplusone> Those are the resources which stick out as particularly good in my mind.
[4:36] <Datalink> MeEtc, heh, would be cool, lemme see if my friend would have other resources
[4:36] <Datalink> okay I just heard that last youtube link I posted... dear gods that's busy ._.
[4:36] <MeEtc> as for the horns themselves, i have access to tons. http://www.2khockey.net/downloads/filesystem/
[4:36] <u-ou> shiftplusone thank you
[4:37] <shiftplusone> np
[4:37] <shiftplusone> the cambridge tutorial has the downside that it doesn't really 'explain' things, it just tells you what to do. Then it's up to you to read the manual to understand what you're actually doing and why.
[4:38] * Datalink starts poking at NHL.com...
[4:38] <shiftplusone> dwelch is very knowledgeable but I don't think he writes in a very structured way, it's more like a dd if=/dev/dwelch/brain of=github, without any processing.
[4:39] <shiftplusone> Also check the bare metal section of the official forum. It's quiet, but there are a lot of good posts there. Particularly pay attention to the DexOS guy.
[4:41] <Datalink> MeEtc, looks like they have a standard datasource, it's... gonna be tricky to work out a solution
[4:41] <MeEtc> for... NHL? I already have that working
[4:41] <Datalink> MeEtc, also my friend says Tampa had it firs, then to Toronto and then Boston in 2006... I have a feeling I should drag him in here
[4:41] <Datalink> oh
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[4:41] <MeEtc> check this: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1596119
[4:42] <Datalink> haha, okay you already got it for NHL, just looking for the other leagues... mybad
[4:42] <MeEtc> you'll find my name in that thread somewhere
[4:42] <shiftplusone> Why all the hokey talk?
[4:42] * u-ou nods
[4:42] * shiftplusone checks time in toronto
[4:42] <shiftplusone> hmm, is this when all the Canadians come out or what?
[4:42] <Datalink> shiftplusone, MeEtc's xmas present and I know a hockey geek
[4:43] <MeEtc> yes, i have live scores for NHL, and i get roughly a 10-15s delay from live. roughly the same as the budweiser lights
[4:43] <shiftplusone> ah
[4:43] * MeEtc is Canadian and a hockey geek.....
[4:43] <Datalink> bah, my friend's going to bed, or I'd drag him in here
[4:43] <shiftplusone> ah, so I was right about Canada being involved here.
[4:43] * ozzzy is Canadian and doesn't watch hockey anymore
[4:44] <MeEtc> heathen!
[4:44] <Datalink> is it wrong that I giggled when I saw MeEtc's imgur link ended in eh?
[4:44] <ozzzy> when they had their 2nd walkout/strike/lockout I said 'screw them... whining buggers'
[4:44] <shiftplusone> >_<
[4:44] <shiftplusone> brilliant
[4:45] <shiftplusone> I still think that contraption has more potential as an alarm clock
[4:45] <Datalink> ozzzy, my dad got tickets to the Brewers when I was a kid... mind you, I am not a sports fan, but it was the 90's strike... I think he ended up at another event held the ticket day...
[4:45] <Datalink> shiftplusone, I could think of nothing more jarring awake then playing the buzzer of the opponent of your favorite hockey team for that particular week
[4:45] <ozzzy> brewers?
[4:46] <Datalink> ozzzy, US baseball team, Milwaukee WI
[4:46] <ozzzy> ahhh... beisbol... Russian game
[4:46] <Datalink> bastards got a new stadium on an increased sales tax across 5 counties including the one I live in
[4:47] <Datalink> hilariously, the Packers, who I do root for (it's kinda in Wisconsin law I do) got a new stadium and didn't affect the state
[4:48] <Datalink> thoght the difference is the Packers are owned by Green Bay and the Brewers are privately owned... which makes the irony even funnier
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[4:49] <Datalink> okay why am I griping about sports politics...
[4:49] * Datalink grabs his Pi, and the small monitor, does something worth his time...
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[4:55] <shiftplusone> productive use of time? I'm not sure I understand.
[4:55] <shiftplusone> It's coffee time here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/coffee.jpg
[4:56] <Aldem> shiftplusone: Do I see a Fluke ?
[4:56] <shiftplusone> Actually, never mind that. Don't want my steam account showing. *delete*
[4:56] <shiftplusone> Aldem, yes, from the almighty Dave Jones himself, no less.
[4:56] <ozzzy> http://www.togastro.com/ozzzy/gallery/m81.html <-- is that the galaxy on your desktop?
[4:57] <Aldem> shiftplusone: lol, I have the 87-V myself
[4:57] <Aldem> shiftplusone: The EEV Blog dude ?
[4:57] <shiftplusone> Aldem, yeah, I got it from a random draw thing he did a while back
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[4:58] <shiftplusone> now it's floating around pi towers, so it definitely has a fair bit of sentimental value now =D
[4:58] <Aldem> Ah, he knows what he talks about but he's way too hyperactive (see annoying) for me :P
[4:58] <shiftplusone> ozzzy, I'm not sure that it is. Double checking.
[4:59] <shiftplusone> ozzzy, NGC4725
[4:59] <shiftplusone> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130530.html
[4:59] <ozzzy> ah... nope then
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[4:59] <ozzzy> I only could see 1/2 of it LOL
[4:59] <Aldem> Just google ''hubble photos''
[4:59] <Aldem> lol
[5:00] <ozzzy> but... that looks like a good target...
[5:00] * ozzzy adds it to the list
[5:00] <shiftplusone> very similar looking
[5:01] <ozzzy> I was hoping to use the Pi on the telescope... but it's usefulness was minimal
[5:01] <ozzzy> [sigh]
[5:01] <Aldem> A gift: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59380156/IMG_1332.JPG
[5:01] <shiftplusone> ozzzy, really, not even to control a mount or something?
[5:01] <Aldem> Always loved that picture
[5:02] <ozzzy> shiftplusone, the best I could come up with was a 'usbip server'
[5:02] <ozzzy> http://www.togastro.com/ozzzy/images/minitoga.jpg <-- I have this one now
[5:03] <ozzzy> I don't use the wifi dongle anymore
[5:03] <Aldem> Me neither
[5:03] <Aldem> Can't get it to work
[5:03] <ozzzy> I put an intel wifi card into the pcie slot
[5:04] <Aldem> Ah, me it's wired
[5:05] <ozzzy> I can do wired... 2 gigabit ports
[5:05] <ozzzy> but no need
[5:05] * ozzzy should build ethernet into the power/anti-dew box
[5:05] * ozzzy makes a note
[5:06] <Aldem> This is what I got http://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-starter-ultimate-kit.html
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[5:08] <shiftplusone> How much of that do you actually need?
[5:09] <Aldem> I'm a noob :P
[5:09] <ShorTie> it's raspberrypi-bootloader you want not raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel ??
[5:09] <Aldem> Wanted to start with a raspberry
[5:10] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, depends. raspberrypi-bootloader is 'the' package which has all the things. the nokernel version is for plugwash's stuff. He rolls his own kernel and it's broken away from the bootloader package.
[5:10] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[5:11] <ShorTie> Thankz .. :)~
[5:11] <shiftplusone> Aldem, a bit of a pricey way to start, but I guess it's nice to have all the beginner stuff in a kit without worrying about what you might need. I recommend you bin those heatsinks though.
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[5:11] <Aldem> shiftplusone: Not needed ?
[5:11] <shiftplusone> The wifi dongle is based on a bad chipset too (uses a lot of CPU).
[5:11] <ozzzy> hehe... they're pretty useless
[5:12] <shiftplusone> Not needed and not effective anyway.
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[5:12] <ozzzy> they just look 'pretty'
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[5:12] <shiftplusone> Especially in that case with no airflow
[5:12] * ozzzy likes his USB monitor
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[5:13] <shiftplusone> This is what heatsinks on the pi are: http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/cardboard_body_kit_car.jpg
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[5:14] <abnormal> It's still cheaper than the kit at Radio Shack and their's is only a model B
[5:14] <ozzzy> nothing wrong with a model b
[5:14] <shiftplusone> I don't think Radio Shack is a good reference for what's reasonable =P
[5:15] <abnormal> well is 114.00 at RS.
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[5:15] <abnormal> so the one at canakit was better
[5:16] <abnormal> nice idea of the hubble photos... just put one in my pi desktop...
[5:17] <ozzzy> abnormal, check out the apod photos
[5:17] <abnormal> apod?
[5:17] <shiftplusone> nasa's astronomy picture of the day
[5:17] <Aldem> lol
[5:18] <shiftplusone> get something interesting every day.
[5:18] <Aldem> I'm an electrician
[5:18] <Aldem> I got some decent transistors at radio shack, but that's it ^^
[5:18] <abnormal> ok. checking...
[5:18] <shiftplusone> Though they're rarely wallpaper material. Often they're quite low res.
[5:18] <abnormal> I get a few xformers there too
[5:19] <abnormal> ok
[5:19] <shiftplusone> Wow http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1412/NGC7331FINAL_IIHallas.jpg
[5:20] <shiftplusone> a lot going on there O_o
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[5:20] <abnormal> looks ok to me... prolly have a pi jr. on the meteor probe
[5:21] <ozzzy> way too heavily processed
[5:21] <ozzzy> but yea.... lots of stuff
[5:21] <Aldem> Good night
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[5:21] <abnormal> nite
[5:22] <shiftplusone> Aren't they all fairly heavily processed? They certainly don't look anything like that 'raw'
[5:23] <abnormal> they should be, as the pictures are quite awsome....
[5:25] <shiftplusone> Ooh... just stumbled upon http://www.reddit.com/r/Astrophotography =)
[5:28] <Datalink> shiftplusone, I had just noticed that Deadmau5 hooked his 6K RED up to a telescope on his tumblr... which just makes me envy him as much as I enjoy his music.
[5:28] <SpeedEvil> I wonder if he's still onIRC
[5:29] <shiftplusone> heh, deadmau5 is an interesting character. I don't listen to much of his music, but I do see him pop up all over the place. Minecraft, 3d printing and all that good stuff.
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[5:31] <Datalink> I think it's cool that a maker like him got famous and he's just using the money to fund hackery... like a RED on a telescope and other normal geek things for a guy with a decent budget
[5:31] <shiftplusone> well... and the occasional Ferrari and I think there was talk of a personal jet >_<
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[5:32] <shiftplusone> but yes, nice to see all the hackery going on too
[5:32] <Datalink> okay... some of his money going toward normal geekery, just with more expensive geekery toys...
[5:32] <Datalink> a 6K pixel RED though... it scares me that that's the camcorder he slings around, those things are in the car range as far as value...
[5:32] <Datalink> I want one
[5:34] <shiftplusone> We have a scope in the office that's worth around the same. I'm always ultra-paranoid about spilling stuff on it or dropping it. >.>
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[5:34] <shiftplusone> To the point where if there's an empty cup nearby, I'll move it to the other side of the desk, because... you never know >_<
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[5:35] <shiftplusone> Though talking about space stuff.... can't wait for the pi to go on the ISS. =)
[5:37] <Datalink> they got one certified for microgravity?
[5:38] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/astro-pi/
[5:38] <Datalink> I can't remember if RoHS friendly soldier has issues with vacuum or microgravity, I think it was vacuum
[5:38] <shiftplusone> I don't know how far along they are in getting everything sorted (power is the major issue), but it has support of all the major players behind it.
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[5:40] <Datalink> ah yeah, looks like a coop between the UK school system, their space agency reps and the foundation
[5:41] <Datalink> blah, they went with hat for the name of expansion boards for the Pi? I prefered 'plate'
[5:42] <shiftplusone> Plate is a bit of a generic term without any specifications. HAT is a standard.
[5:42] <abnormal> oh come on... at least they made a good "step"
[5:43] <Datalink> yeah, preference aside, it's a functional name... describes that the part's an accessory that goes on top of the Pi
[5:43] <ozzzy> I call them 'crusts'
[5:44] <shiftplusone> Plus, I think they couldn't pass up the opportunity to use a name that's an acronym and a word.
[5:44] <abnormal> lol, crusts.... he heh
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[5:46] <Datalink> shiftplusone, ehe, it worked for the Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division
[5:47] <shiftplusone> heh
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[5:48] <Datalink> or as they said in Agents of SHIELD, "someone really wanted a name that'd spell SHIELD"
[5:50] <Datalink> aside from reworking the studio's lighting, the only hackery I've done through December has been to hide and rearrange some elements of a friend's webcam security server... lousy month
[5:51] <shiftplusone> I don't know, some time away from hackery can be a good thing.
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[5:53] <Datalink> true
[5:53] <Datalink> January's big project is to cobble a computer togethr without a budget to do so
[5:53] <Datalink> namely friends sending me their retired hardware, and filling the remainder with parts
[5:54] <shiftplusone> You're not in Australia, are you? I have a lot of stuff left behind there which I wouldn't mind donating to a good home.
[5:55] <Datalink> I'm in the US
[5:55] <shiftplusone> ah, then the shipping probably wouldn't be worth it.
[5:56] <Datalink> a friend of mine is a video game and toy collector in Austria, he's sending me his old motherboard, and I'm shipping him some toys he asked me to get him that are exclusives to Toys R Us in the US
[5:56] <u-ou> what kinda stuff, shiftplusone?
[5:58] <shiftplusone> u-ou, I don't really know. I'll be going back to sell off what I can at the start of next year some time. Old PC, motorbike (vn250), furniture... all the stuff I can't take with me overseas.
[5:58] <u-ou> okies
[5:59] <abnormal> oh? where you moving to? shiftplusone
[5:59] <Datalink> the stuff I still haven't gotten donors for are gonna be rough to find... hard drive, power supply, case
[5:59] <shiftplusone> Ooh, my scope, dc power supply.... lots of stuff I can still bring with me.
[5:59] <shiftplusone> abnormal, Cambridge, UK.
[5:59] <abnormal> nice place
[5:59] <Datalink> half way across the world, wow
[5:59] <Datalink> I haven't gone anywhere that's required a passport, so it's hard for me to fathom that
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[6:00] <shiftplusone> heh, yeah, especially when it's as spontaneous as this was.
[6:00] <abnormal> I know a friend in the UK... he's a psychology professor there.
[6:01] <shiftplusone> Everyone is a professor or doctor of something or rather over here >_<
[6:01] <abnormal> seems that way... lol
[6:02] <shiftplusone> It's like they give away phds for free here
[6:02] <abnormal> even the caretakers make more income than anyone in US
[6:03] <Datalink> that's because we don't have subsidized higher education here
[6:03] <shiftplusone> Not at all?
[6:03] <shiftplusone> Not even low interest loans?
[6:04] <Datalink> well, there is but it's not as nice as in other countries
[6:04] <shiftplusone> That's a shame. Seems like a lot of wasted potential.
[6:04] <Datalink> that's probably a good summary of the US
[6:05] <abnormal> lol.. yup very wasteful
[6:05] <Datalink> I really wish I could afford to leave this place sometimes, being on disability pension is basically eating away at the portion of my sanity that didn't already put me on disability
[6:06] <shiftplusone> =(
[6:07] <abnormal> been there, went back to work after going to school while living on disability.
[6:07] <shiftplusone> Even if you're financially able, getting a visa sorted for any extended period of time is no easy task.
[6:07] <abnormal> I was on SSDI for like 9 yrs
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[6:10] <Datalink> aproximately that now... I'm in one of those smaller cities that has minimal in-city mass transit (taxi) and no transit out of town and I haven't been able to afford a car when my old one died
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[6:11] <shiftplusone> I'm off. 'night folks.
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[6:12] <u-ou> nn
[6:12] <abnormal> nite, shiftplusone
[6:13] <abnormal> c u tom...
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[6:40] <abnormal> Datalink, what happened to ur car?
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[6:45] <Datalink> electrical short in the ignition circuit in the steering column, battery wouldn't hold a charge, I was lucky I didn't have a fire
[6:45] <abnormal> any way to fix it?
[6:46] <Datalink> it was 2006 when it died... I no longer own it
[6:46] <abnormal> I see... sorry
[6:48] <Datalink> yeah, it's depressing, story of my life though
[6:48] <abnormal> well is there a way to get another one?
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[6:59] <Datalink> I'm ucky when I don't overdraft my account, my finances are so thin
[7:00] <abnormal> I feel you... sorry.... not easy making a go of it...
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[7:02] <Datalink> yeah, it's rough
[7:03] <Datalink> most of my time's just working to keep my sanity, honestly, which isn't easy either
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[7:04] <abnormal> yup... here too... I use my pi for chatting most of the time at home... lappy, old one, at Barnes & Nobles...
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[7:06] <Datalink> my mom's helped me out within her ability to do so but that's limited to cheaper computer hardware, old laptop was $700, current tablet is a $250 unit, though I'm starting to build a full computer
[7:06] <abnormal> Oh? what for?
[7:07] <abnormal> why not just use a pi?
[7:07] <Datalink> video games do a bit better at keeping my sanity
[7:09] <abnormal> ah... ok... I do most of my time at B & N....
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[7:13] <Datalink> companies like that don't open stores in places like this
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[7:16] <abnormal> yeh, sorry.. I am near Ithaca, NY by Cornell U.
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[9:28] <Mr_Sheesh> No, knowing what code you're using and how you deal with errors would help; Haven't used spi on the pi yet, considered it but using serial for one widget
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[9:33] <Zane> Basically I am running nodejs and communicating with the Pi via the nodejs johny-five package
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[9:33] <Zane> the arduino uno is loaded with StandardFirmata
[9:33] <heller\> so whats up, my input pin is getting 3.3V but not showing as 1?
[9:33] <Zane> The Uno is connected to the Pi via a Logic Level Converter and then to the Pi's GPIO
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[10:25] * ShorTie thinkz interesting, there we go
[10:25] <ShorTie> dpkg -l | grep 'ii' | awk '{print $2}' > dpkg-l.txt
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[10:50] <heller\> anyone? 3.3V on input pin should read as True?
[10:50] <heller\> why is it not doing it.
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[10:50] <ShorTie> did you set the pin up as an input ??
[10:51] <heller\> yes
[10:52] <Mr_Sheesh> Are you able to measure that voltage to check it?
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[10:53] <heller\> http://pastebin.com/daSiJahQ
[10:53] <heller\> i did measure it
[10:53] <heller\> 3.3V
[10:57] <ShorTie> sortta sounding like it's in your programming
[10:59] <ShorTie> not tobe smart
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[11:11] <heller\> checked with o'scope. raspberry 3.3V rail is 3.35V and input pin is getting 3.345V
[11:11] <heller\> should be showing as 1, right?
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[11:13] <heller\> http://www.element14.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/previewBody/68203-102-6-294412/GPIO.png according to this, pins are ok
[11:13] <heller\> GPIO19 and 26, as in the code
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[11:14] <ShorTie> sortta sounds like it should be showing 1
[11:15] <ShorTie> sorry, don't see no code there, just a jpg
[11:16] <heller\> ah, seems like its the coding
[11:16] <heller\> code http://pastebin.com/daSiJahQ
[11:17] <heller\> somewhy my if sis not working
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[11:19] <ShorTie> sorry, l@@ks like the snake and i haven't been bitten by that, atleast yet, lol.
[11:20] <heller\> err?
[11:20] <ShorTie> python ??
[11:20] <heller\> eh
[11:20] <heller\> now its working
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[14:05] <BurtyB> I see in the FAQ 4.8V is considered "in range" but is the power supply range documented anywhere (specifically for the A+)?
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[14:26] <ShorTie> BurtyB, 5.0vdc +/-0.2vdc
[14:26] <ShorTie> same same on all
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[15:01] <Bilby> oy, what a day already
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[15:18] <BurtyB> ShorTie, thanks
[15:18] <ShorTie> No Problem
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[15:27] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[15:27] <ShorTie> lets see how well post-install.txt works, lol.
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[15:57] <Bilby> Hmm... If I wrote a "so you got a pi for christmas" post on reddit, do you think I could get the mods to sticky it?
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[16:06] <Jckf> Bilby: Doesn't sound unlikely, if it's good =)
[16:06] <Jckf> And, I did ;D
[16:06] <Jckf> get one that is
[16:07] <Bilby> Nice! :D
[16:07] <Bilby> orite, it's already christmas in a few kiwi-sized parts of the world
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[16:09] <Jckf> Bilby: Hehe, that's true. Although I got it already because we're weak ;p
[16:09] <Jckf> Teased my gf with her gift too much, so I had to open mine in order for her to open hers
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[16:12] <Bilby> haha
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[16:26] <ShorTie> blaaa, that didn't work, lol.
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[16:33] <ShorTie> oh well, turn it into a bash script, hehe
[16:36] <Bilby> Jckf working on that post now
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[16:44] <ShorTie> thats a bummer, dpkg-query: package 'keyboard-configuration' is not installed and no information is available
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[17:05] <Bilby> Jckf http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/2qaasn/congratulations_you_received_a_raspberry_pi_as_a/
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[17:11] <abnormal> yes, what about this website? Bilby
[17:13] <Bilby> say what now?
[17:13] <Bilby> also, hi abby ;)
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[17:13] <abnormal> hello... wondering why the site post... it's been around for a long time...
[17:14] <Jckf> Bilby: Don't have time to read it now, but gave you an upvote ;)
[17:14] <Bilby> tanks :D
[17:14] <Azjo> Hi, i just installed 5 OS using NOOBS lite. it tells me which OS to choose to boot from. so my question is, how do i boot to the others afterwards?
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[17:14] <Bilby> abnormal, sorry, I'm lost. what website?
[17:15] <abnormal> the one you sent to jckf?
[17:15] <Bilby> Azjo you can go back to the NOOBS menu and reinstall any of the OS at any time, but when you do you overwrite and lose anything you did on the previous install
[17:15] <Bilby> abnormal oh, that - i had asked about interest in doing a meta post for new Pi owners and he'd responded, so i was just linking him to it after i finished it :)
[17:15] <Azjo> thats ruining the whole point of having all OS's on my 32gb sd tho
[17:15] <abnormal> cool... nice
[17:16] <Bilby> Ah... Azjo you're looking for something like a GRUB menu
[17:16] <Bilby> Look into berryboot --> http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
[17:16] <Azjo> hmm i thought they had that since u can choose more
[17:17] <ShorTie> have you rebooted yet, doesn't it give an option to change boot os ??
[17:17] <Bilby> okay, it looks like noobs may be able to do multiboot now... http://www.raspberrypi.org/new-raspbian-release-and-noobs-v1-3-goes-gold/
[17:17] <ShorTie> be kinda goofy it didn't, don't you think ??
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[17:19] <Azjo> im doing that now
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[17:21] <Bilby> ShorTie iirc the original idea for NOOBS was as an easy way for newcomers to try out different images for the Pi, not as a multi-boot mechanism
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[17:21] <Bilby> considering the ease of swapping and the low-power of the machine I think the idea was that fewer people would be multi-booting regularly, and those that were could probably just use different SD cards
[17:22] <ShorTie> kinda hard to tryout a os without booting into it though, imho
[17:22] <Azjo> NOOBS has a boot menu for all of the OS's i see
[17:22] <Azjo> it just wasnt clear before restarting
[17:23] <ShorTie> sorry, only tried it once and figured out it was just a partition happy, sdcard eatter, that can cause problems in the long run, but thats just me
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[17:24] <Bilby> lol ShorTie
[17:24] <Azjo> hmm.. i chose arch linux now.. black screen
[17:24] <Bilby> I have one card with it, it was actually really conveniant for experimenting because i toasted installs a few times and it was really easy to just reinstall it
[17:25] <Azjo> what does it mean when the arch linux is completely black? but it reacted on alt ctrl del and restarted
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[17:26] <ShorTie> since arch went away from supply an image, the foundation like does not support it no more
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[17:27] <Azjo> it seemed to boot arch now
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[17:27] <Azjo> hmm u sure? noobs lite had it as a choice?
[17:27] <thafreak> Anyone try to play a video with a super high resolution?
[17:27] <thafreak> I'm trying to play a 1920x2160 video and it looks a mess
[17:28] <ShorTie> no, just know they took it off there os dowbload page is all
[17:28] <thafreak> is there a hardware limit for video resolution?
[17:28] <Bilby> I think HDMI only supports 1080
[17:28] <ShorTie> 1080p i believe
[17:29] <Azjo> i did try raspbian first and chose to ignore the initial setup, so this 2nd time it just wants to login from term (scratch?) how do i initiate the setup again?
[17:29] <thafreak> well, if I play a 1920x1080 video on a 1280x1024 screen, it scales down fine
[17:30] <thafreak> but this 1920x2160 video...i don't know how to describe it...it'll play if I give it gpu_mem=128, but it doesn't look right
[17:33] <ShorTie> raspi-config Azjo
[17:33] <ShorTie> oops, need a sudo in front of that
[17:33] <Bilby> that
[17:34] <Azjo> thanks it works
[17:35] <Jckf> Bilby: Yay, you got stickied :)
[17:35] <ShorTie> i live on the wild side and play as root, so always forget about that sudo thing, lol.
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[17:36] <Azjo> and how many times have u regret that?
[17:37] <ShorTie> only when i used the delete tree command from windows, years ago
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[17:38] <Bilby> Jckf \o/
[17:38] <Azjo> so you miss windows? aww
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[17:38] <ShorTie> should do that from c:\
[17:38] <ShorTie> shouldn't do that from c:\
[17:38] <ShorTie> no, this is a windows box
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[17:39] <ShorTie> putty is my friend .. :)~
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[17:44] <Azjo> ugh, cant i use an external harddrive on rpi? only usb powered
[17:45] <abnormal> you can, if you have a POWERED USB hub.
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[17:45] <Azjo> but i cant if it only has one usb for power + data?
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[17:47] <omfgtora> Merry Holidays and Happy Christmas
[17:47] <Bilby> indeed sir, indeed.
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[17:47] <ShorTie> micro usb only supplies power
[17:47] <ShorTie> what model pi is it ??
[17:47] <abnormal> the SD card has the boot records to boot the pi, then after the boot is complete, the hard drive can be used as an external drive. And yes, you have to use a powered USB hub to add more USB connections to the one usb port.
[17:48] <Azjo> nono, im using one of the normal usb conns
[17:48] <Azjo> i seem to have contact now.. after 2 crashes
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[17:49] <ShorTie> don't know if usb boot works with NOOBS are not
[17:49] <Azjo> its only for data. movies :p
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[17:50] <ShorTie> hope your not gonna to to save and watch at the same time
[17:51] <Azjo> im in raspbmc now. it failed to play
[17:51] <Azjo> must be lack of power
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[17:52] <abnormal> yes, usually lack of power will make a pi crash.
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[17:52] <Azjo> oh well, i copied 75gb for nothing i guess lol
[17:52] <abnormal> you need two PSUs one on pi, one on hub.
[17:52] <ShorTie> depends on if it is a + or not i think
[17:53] <ShorTie> will shut down the usb so the pi does not crash i believe
[17:53] <ShorTie> a + will shut down the usb so the pi does not crash i believe
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[17:54] <ShorTie> it will also tell you by blinking the power light
[17:55] <ShorTie> and throw up a rainbow if you have the latest firmware
[17:56] <ShorTie> did you answer what model pi ??
[17:57] <ShorTie> there is a usb power hack for the +'s that lets you hook a hdd up, if your power supply can handle it
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[19:24] <JakeSays> hey so anybody have experience with the gertbot?
[19:25] <abnormal> gertbot?
[19:25] <abnormal> more info pls...
[19:26] <shiftplusone> JakeSays, yeah, what's up?
[19:26] <JakeSays> shiftplusone: i'm thinking of getting a couple. what do you think of it?
[19:26] <niston> hi JakeSays :)
[19:26] <JakeSays> niston: lol hey
[19:27] <niston> looking for berrypies?
[19:27] <JakeSays> niston: i'm finding myself wishing i had planned ahead - christmas break and not enough hardware to tinker with
[19:27] <JakeSays> abnormal: http://www.newark.com/gertboard/gertbot/gertbot-robotics-board-for-raspberry/dp/93X7452
[19:27] <shiftplusone> JakeSays, it's definitely worth it. I haven't had much of a chance to use it for anything, but it's certainly very flexible and easy to use. It also has a nice polished UI to play around with.
[19:27] <niston> oh heh
[19:28] * niston took care of that
[19:28] <niston> 2k euros worth of equipment
[19:28] <niston> all in my basement now :>
[19:28] <JakeSays> shiftplusone: ok cool. thanks
[19:28] <niston> an ERSA iCon 1 ... what a lovely christmas present <3
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[19:28] <JakeSays> i have some 30 year old steppers i'd like to drive
[19:28] <shiftplusone> JakeSays, For the sake of full disclosure, I'm 100% biased here. =P
[19:28] <JakeSays> shiftplusone: lol why are you biased?
[19:29] <niston> whats the MCU on the gertboard?
[19:29] <niston> avr or pic?
[19:29] <shiftplusone> JakeSays, I see Gert pretty much every day and have beta tested the board.
[19:29] <JakeSays> shiftplusone: ah ok. cool
[19:29] <JakeSays> niston: mine has an atmega328 on it
[19:30] <JakeSays> iirc the very early boards had a pic tho
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[19:30] <JakeSays> shiftplusone: do you work with gert?
[19:30] <niston> ah, right
[19:31] <shiftplusone> JakeSays, kind of, except that he doesn't work here.
[19:31] <shiftplusone> he just does his own stuff
[19:31] <JakeSays> man, he's got an awesome job :(
[19:31] <niston> hehe
[19:32] <JakeSays> i've had a gertboard for 4 months and have yet to do something with it
[19:33] <abnormal> you can do an awful lot with a gertboard... in my opinion...
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[19:34] <JakeSays> yeah i'm sure
[19:34] <niston> if it had a PIC, I could use one for prototyping
[19:34] <JakeSays> why a pic?
[19:34] <niston> cuz cheap
[19:34] <niston> $.35
[19:34] <abnormal> add one to it...
[19:34] <niston> I will :)
[19:35] <JakeSays> i cant imagine a 328 being much more than that
[19:35] <niston> well I dunno. its gonna need a lot of IOs
[19:35] <niston> so I settled for uh PIC 16LF1516
[19:36] <niston> is there an MCU that runs .net ? :>
[19:36] <JakeSays> probably
[19:36] <niston> like those java things
[19:36] <JakeSays> .net micro at least
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[19:38] <niston> food interrupt. bbiab :)
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[20:00] <JakeSays> i'm not a fan of gert's coding style.
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[20:05] <Stumbler> is mostly everyone using python for their rpi projects? Just noticed a staggering difference in the number of phython vs other language posts on one of the larger rpi forums.
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[20:07] <abnormal> some use C, C+, C++, Scratch, etc... not limited to an individual's ability... any way to send instructions to tell pi to carry out.....
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[20:12] <gordonDrogon> I use BASIC.
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[20:13] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, where the hell have you been?
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> Narnia.
[20:14] <shiftplusone> Matt has been worried sick. Everything alright?
[20:16] <abnormal> nice... BASIC... nice
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[20:20] <JakeSays> lol @ narnia
[20:20] <JakeSays> Stumbler: i use anything *but* python
[20:20] <Stumbler> haha, awesome. okay, so it seems this is a pretty open community. no real best practices yet?
[20:21] <JakeSays> i hope not. best practices rarely are.
[20:21] <Stumbler> I've been doing almost all of my work in node.js. But I fear if I ever wanted to contribute to the community that I'd be so far off base no one would care.
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[20:22] <ant_thomas> Bash
[20:22] <shiftplusone> Stumbler, people care more about what you do rather than how you do it.
[20:23] <Stumbler> shiftplusone: Truer words never spoken. thanks
[20:23] <shiftplusone> Do something cool, and people will be interested.
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> my BASIC interpreter is written in C though.
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> http://drogon.net/rtb runs nicely on the Pi.
[20:23] <Froolap> It helps if there are photos.
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[20:24] <Stumbler> Well, the thing I'm currently doing is an IoT public event bus. Long term I'd like to build a community around it and the tools built on it. I feel like I should support the most common dev stacks though.
[20:25] <ant_thomas> My RPi central heating controller is mainly a few bash scripts. Once it's boxed up and neat I'll do a write up
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> bash and hopefully wiringPi's gpio command :-)
[20:26] <ant_thomas> Definitely using wiringPi in places!
[20:27] <ant_thomas> http://i.imgur.com/z3DDvAT.jpg
[20:28] <Stumbler> nifty
[20:28] <JakeSays> gordonDrogon: i once wrapped wiringpi with a c# lib. sadly i forgot which sdcard it was on, and eventually formatted over the top of it :(
[20:30] <gordonDrogon> ant_thomas, stay safe with that :)
[20:31] <gordonDrogon> JakeSays, oops....
[20:31] <gordonDrogon> I have so many plans... Has anyone here used a Peltier heat pump to chill a box?
[20:32] <gordonDrogon> I want to make an insulated box that I can either heat or cool.
[20:32] <ant_thomas> gordonDrogon: Yeah I've been much more careful than I usually am, what with it being 240V control. I should be changing the relay for a solid state relay soon (I've read they're safer/more reliable)
[20:33] <gordonDrogon> (and keep somewhat humid - with the low-tech solution of a bit of cloth in a tub of water with a fan blowing over it...)
[20:33] <gordonDrogon> ant_thomas, stick with the relay if it's working for you.
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> I'm going to build a bread proving/retarding cupboard - to either keep dough at a set temperature between 4C and 24C and switch from 4C to 24C at (say) 4am ...
[20:35] <ring0> isn't c# from the devil?
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[20:39] <JakeSays> gordonDrogon: i have a peltier that i've been meaning to do something with for about, oh, 7 years
[20:39] <JakeSays> ring0: no.
[20:41] <JakeSays> gordonDrogon: i'm not really sure how to go about controlling it though
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[20:45] <gordonDrogon> JakeSays, just connect 12V over it - one side will get hot the other cold -
[20:45] <gordonDrogon> my plan is to put heatsinks and fans on both sides, then use a beefy H bridge to control it (although I might use relays to start with)
[20:46] <JakeSays> thats it? thats pretty simple.
[20:46] <JakeSays> i can probably use the controller that came with it
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> in-theory ...
[20:46] <JakeSays> (its actually out of a cooler)
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> I might end up being clever for no reason other than because I can and PWM control it rather than a simple on/off control with a bit of histeresis.
[20:48] <JakeSays> that odroid c1 looks interesting
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> have to go and do stuff now. back sometime.
[20:52] <JakeSays> http://ameridroid.com/products/myahrs-attitude-heading-reference-system <- fun
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[23:48] <josePhoenix> hi all
[23:49] <abnormal> hello
[23:52] <josePhoenix> I'm having trouble playing audio on the Pi with Raspbian. It seems like it's losing the first half-second or so of audio when I start playing
[23:53] <abnormal> off the RCA connector?
[23:53] <josePhoenix> HDMI
[23:54] <josePhoenix> I should go find a pair of headphones and check if that's different
[23:54] <abnormal> I suggest you get wolfson card and attach it to pi
[23:54] <abnormal> won't hurt, but may hear some noise
[23:54] <josePhoenix> I'm hoping to resolve this without buying extra hardware :)
[23:55] <josePhoenix> Could it be that it takes some time for the audio device to become ready?
[23:56] <abnormal> some ppl had to add stuff to make it work better.. I am not experienced on the sound part of the pi...
[23:56] <josePhoenix> last time I dealt with audio on linux, back in 2007 or so, it was kind of a pain... looks like it hasn't changed much :(
[23:57] <abnormal> It should not take any amount of time for sound to work... I know there are issues relating to HDMI so look in the pi forums for solutions...
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