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IRC Log for 2014-12-29

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[0:00] <ebarch> daedeloth: only 256mb ram, no ethernet, 1 usb port
[0:00] <daedeloth> oh. no ethernet. drop that
[0:03] <ozzzy> the B has ethernet
[0:03] <daedeloth> yea I know
[0:04] <daedeloth> hm actually I will have to take the power out of the ethernet cable right? So I need to split it before connecting it up? So I'll need a seperate board anyway?
[0:06] <niston> I would suggest to solder the UBEC directly to the Pi
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[0:07] <niston> warranty void but who cares :)
[0:07] <daedeloth> and then connect it to the pi's ethernet port?
[0:07] <niston> the input yes
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[0:08] <niston> solder the UBEC input to unused wire pairs on the ethernet connector
[0:08] <niston> (right on the Pi PCB)
[0:08] <daedeloth> and the pi won't mind the 12 volt on those unused pins?
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[0:08] <ShorTie> they got nice long leads sticking out too
[0:09] <niston> I shall be checking if they are shorted
[0:09] <niston> my lab is downstairs so I guess bbiab :P
[0:09] <daedeloth> haha, awesome :)
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[0:30] <whyameye> trying to setup a pi headless. The problem is that ssh does not seem to be enabled by default; I get "connection refused" when trying to ssh in. The pi is grabbing dhcp no problem and I am getting the ip address no problem
[0:30] <whyameye> this is raspbian download
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[0:35] <whyameye> magically works on 2nd boot. dunno
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[0:45] <Xark> whyameye: It may need to generate a ssh key or something on first boot?
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[1:08] <niston> daedeloth it won't work
[1:08] <niston> there's a magjack on the pcb
[1:08] <daedeloth> what's a magjack?
[1:08] <niston> an ethernet socket with built-in magnetics
[1:09] <niston> essence is, the soldering pins on the magjack don't correspond with the pins on the socket
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[1:09] <niston> can't get to 7/8 for example
[1:09] <daedeloth> oh, ok
[1:09] <niston> but you could simply use another PoE adapter
[1:09] <niston> since they work both ways
[1:09] <daedeloth> ah, yes, of course, I didn't think about that
[1:09] <niston> mebbe solder an USB pigtail onto them
[1:11] <daedeloth> so something like this http://www.passivepoe.com/products.html
[1:11] <daedeloth> which nicely fits inside the box
[1:11] <daedeloth> attach that to the ubec
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[1:12] <daedeloth> and on the other side the same thing
[1:12] <niston> yes
[1:12] <niston> I suggest these http://www.pcengines.ch/poe1a2.htm
[1:12] <niston> you can disassemble them easily
[1:12] <niston> and the board inside them has mounting holes
[1:12] <daedeloth> yea but that one I sent earlier can easily be fitted in the enclosure "wall"
[1:12] <niston> ic
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[1:13] <niston> well won't matter as long as you use the same pinout on both feeder and splitter
[1:13] <daedeloth> yea and I could just make a wooden box with a switch and a psu
[1:13] <niston> yup :)
[1:14] <daedeloth> this ethernet idea is not bad...
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[1:17] <whyameye> Xark: whatever was wrong, everything is awesome now. This thing is great!
[1:18] <Xark> whyameye: Excellent. :)
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[1:19] <ShorTie> hack the router and feed to power in there, hehe
[1:22] <daedeloth> we're talking about 25 ports :p
[1:23] <ShorTie> ya, that is why i'm saying that
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[1:24] <ShorTie> but 25 ports, your gonna need 50-60 amps, on my
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[1:26] <daedeloth> is that bad?
[1:26] <ShorTie> no, just a bunch is all
[1:26] <daedeloth> how much does a standard pc psu deliver on it's 12v lines?
[1:27] <ShorTie> depends on the size of it
[1:27] <ShorTie> might be better to use 3 or 4 of them
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[1:28] <ShorTie> so if 1 goes down, your hole system doesn't crash
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[1:29] <linix> how do i do a remote connection to my rpi like from work ? the pi has an ip like 192.168.0.xx how do i proceed?
[1:29] <Froolap> ssh user@ip
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[1:30] <ShorTie> and give your self some lee way, like if it says it outputs 12 amps, don't draw more then about 10
[1:30] <ShorTie> linix, you port forward in your router
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[1:30] <linix> thnx ShorTie
[1:31] <hottentott> Linix: you can as an example portforward port 22 and connect with ssh pi@(your externalipk):22
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[1:31] <linix> hottentott, thanks I will go do some research
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[1:38] <daedeloth> actually, http://www.ebay.com/itm/170970770662?rmvSB=true
[1:38] <daedeloth> that's not that expensive...
[1:38] <daedeloth> and that has everything I need, right?
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[1:40] <daedeloth> niston, for you :p
[1:40] <niston> on phone
[1:40] <niston> hold
[1:40] <daedeloth> no worries
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[1:44] <niston> yuck
[1:44] <niston> ah no wait
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[1:44] <niston> hmm
[1:44] <niston> the adapter on the picture has just 5A
[1:45] <niston> the power supply
[1:45] <niston> definately not enough to power 12 Pis
[1:45] <daedeloth> ah yea
[1:45] <niston> but the rest looks nice
[1:45] <daedeloth> I forgot to check that
[1:45] <niston> the distributor and the splitters
[1:45] <daedeloth> yea, indeed
[1:45] <niston> another thing to consider would be to use a PoE switch
[1:45] <daedeloth> so I just need to attach a heavier psu to it
[1:46] <daedeloth> yea looked into those as well
[1:46] <daedeloth> but bit more expensive
[1:46] <daedeloth> so just 28 unmanaged switch + 2 of those should already get me a long wya
[1:46] <niston> http://www.ubnt.com/accessories/toughswitch/
[1:46] <niston> ubnt uses 24V PoE though
[1:46] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYf9HK-rI1s
[1:47] <niston> so oyeag¨
[1:47] <niston> yeagh
[1:47] <SpeedEvil> Raspberry Pi overclocking failure
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[1:47] <niston> maybe you can find the distributor and adapters w/o the supply ?
[1:47] <niston> SpeedEvil: released magic smoke?
[1:47] <daedeloth> actually that foscam thing I sent uses 48v
[1:48] <niston> does it say 48?
[1:48] <niston> the UBEC will tolerate up to 23V only
[1:48] <daedeloth> but 5a at 48v = about 50a on 5v, no?
[1:48] <daedeloth> yea but they have their own splitters
[1:48] <niston> yes but the problem is the buck converter
[1:48] <niston> OH
[1:48] <niston> i c now
[1:48] <niston> yes!
[1:49] <daedeloth> but is that above calculation right because I really don't know much about electronics :p
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[1:49] <niston> then if you have a dc jack to USB adapter
[1:49] <niston> 5a x 48v
[1:49] <niston> this be 240 watts
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[1:50] <niston> 240 watts / 5v = 48 amps
[1:50] <daedeloth> so that's 24 pi's
[1:50] <niston> yes
[1:50] <daedeloth> awesome
[1:50] <daedeloth> I'm starting to like this idea
[1:51] <niston> http://www.expansys.com/expansys-mini-usb-dc-jack-converter-123774/
[1:51] <niston> maybe add this
[1:51] <daedeloth> yep saw those as well
[1:51] <daedeloth> no soldering required :D
[1:51] <niston> it will be nice
[1:51] <niston> yeah
[1:51] <daedeloth> I'll have to run a cable to all tables in the venue though, not sure if I'm happy with that
[1:51] <daedeloth> but it does sound like a perfect solution
[1:51] <niston> either that or battery
[1:52] <niston> and wifi
[1:52] <daedeloth> indeed
[1:52] <daedeloth> well I'll make sure the encasement has place for batteries
[1:52] <daedeloth> but I won't be able to get batteries under $10, which is the price for that set
[1:52] <niston> how long do the trivia games run?
[1:52] <daedeloth> so I can start with that and maybe upgrade later
[1:53] <daedeloth> well we're aiming for about 2 hours, but there will be breaks, and time to set up, etc
[1:53] <niston> so you're looking at 4000mAh battery packs
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[1:53] <niston> or more
[1:53] <daedeloth> indeed
[1:53] <daedeloth> also wifi modules
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[1:53] <niston> yeah
[1:54] <niston> and a recharging solution
[1:54] <daedeloth> didn't even think of that one yet
[1:54] <niston> so the PoE will be the cheaper way to go
[1:54] <niston> do you already have the ethernet cabling?
[1:55] <daedeloth> no, but well, that's not that expensive
[1:55] <niston> might go for super flexible cables
[1:55] <niston> as "normal" patch cables tend to be quite stiff
[1:55] <daedeloth> yea, definitely going for flexible
[1:55] <daedeloth> not really sure how to connect those, but I'll figure it out :p
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[1:55] <niston> simple ethernet
[1:56] <niston> Pi--splitter--ethernetcable---PoE distributor--power supply
[1:56] <daedeloth> no I mean like how to ensemble the cables :)
[1:56] <niston> ah
[1:56] <niston> maybe have some longer ones on drums
[1:56] <daedeloth> although, well, buying pre made ones also sounds better :)
[1:56] <daedeloth> yea but flexbile are more difficult to connect
[1:56] <niston> ah yeah I definately recommend that
[1:56] <daedeloth> but hey, I'm talking about details now :p
[1:57] <niston> oh
[1:58] <niston> that FOSCAM thing is actually quite nice _:)
[1:58] <daedeloth> yea, indeed
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[1:59] <daedeloth> so now I just have to decide if I want to do a �5k investment that I might never make back :p
[2:00] <niston> :]
[2:03] <daedeloth> any experience with casing? metal / plastic / anything really, as long as it is quite strong :)
[2:04] <niston> fiberglass perhaps?
[2:04] <daedeloth> well the main issue is the production cost
[2:07] <ShorTie> wallwarts, micro-usb cables and extension cord if needed be a lot cheaper most likely
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[3:18] <MrRick> I just received a model B+. Do I need new drivers/modules for python to handle the expanded GPIO pins?
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[3:43] <codepython777> anyone has a gps on their pi working?
[3:45] * ozzzy knows where he is
[3:45] <ozzzy> j/k
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[3:46] <entreri> hello there, is there any Raspberry pi with at least 1GB of RAM yet ?
[3:46] <codepython777> entreri: you can just buy another sing board machine?
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[3:47] <codepython777> does anyone know how does edison compare in speed with pi?
[3:47] <entreri> codepython777: I'm not sure what is a sing board : S
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[3:48] <codepython777> entreri: http://www.davidhunt.ie/raspberry-pi-beaglebone-black-intel-edison-benchmarked/ - 2 others here
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[4:22] <entreri> So, I'm buying my first Raspberry Pi, and should I go with the B+ or the B+ with NOOBS and what's the main difference ?
[4:23] <entreri> I'm used to install linux already on different computers, so is NOOBS going to be very beneficial ?
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[4:34] <SirLagz> entreri: I'd just get the B+. NOOBS is good if you want to run multiple OS on a single SD card though
[4:34] <StanAccy> anyone compiled openjfx for raspberry pi?
[4:35] <StanAccy> Im struggling to cross compile for the hard-float arm build
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[4:45] <StanAccy> ls -la
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[5:28] <jaymaker> Hello everyone
[5:29] <abnormal> hello.
[5:29] <n3ob> o/
[5:29] <jaymaker> How is everyone doing?
[5:30] <abnormal> dunno.. hardly anyone awakens...
[5:30] <Aldem> Or yet got to bed ;)
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[5:31] <jaymaker> Another one of those IRC channels where there's 5000 people in the channel and nobody talks eh? :P
[5:31] <abnormal> maybe... or ignoring the chat and doing their things.
[5:31] <Aldem> 23:30 here
[5:32] <Aldem> #idle ^^
[5:32] <abnormal> same here
[5:32] <jaymaker> Well, I just ordered my first Raspberry Pi off Amazon. I should get it in a few days
[5:32] <Aldem> Cool
[5:33] <Aldem> I got my R b+
[5:33] <Aldem> Looking for cool projects to start
[5:33] <jaymaker> Yep! That's what I'm getting :)
[5:33] <jaymaker> I got some ideas of what I want to do with mine... don't really know if it'd be possible though
[5:34] <abnormal> anything is possible
[5:34] <Aldem> I'd like something audio related
[5:34] <jaymaker> I'd like to build a 3D printer around it... though, I think an Arduino would be more suitable for something like that
[5:35] <abnormal> Wolfson sound card
[5:36] <Aldem> ?
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[5:38] <abnormal> yes, a Wolfson sound card that plugs in over top of pi.
[5:38] <Aldem> Ah, nice
[5:38] <Aldem> Thanks
[5:39] <abnormal> yw
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[5:49] <Aldem> Well, going to bed now
[5:49] <Aldem> Night
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[5:57] <abnormal> nite
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[6:34] <diytto> I'm having issues connecting to my pi when it's on wifi
[6:34] <diytto> any ideas why?
[6:37] <abnormal> what dongle you have connected to it?
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[6:39] <driftwood_> hi all
[6:39] <abnormal> hi, did your wood drift?
[6:41] <driftwood_> my SD card slots poorly in to slot. will not stay close enough on rhs to contacts. pretty sure problem was there from start
[6:41] <driftwood_> fixable? or do I need to return it ???
[6:42] <abnormal> looks like a return, but try a different SD card first.
[6:42] <driftwood_> have to press on it to get it to run stuff. no good. tried ways to get it to push down in case. no good way found
[6:43] <abnormal> how does it work out of the case?
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[6:44] <abnormal> is it in a pi case or are you talking about the socket?
[6:44] <driftwood_> still have to push down with a little pressure for SD card to make contact
[6:44] <driftwood_> the socket
[6:45] <driftwood_> tried bluetack and then tried extra thickness of cardboard as layer on top
[6:46] <abnormal> ok, look at the contacts in the socket and see if there is damage. or if they are not up high enough to make good contact, use something like a mini screwdriver to raist them a little
[6:47] <driftwood_> OK will do ta :) .am away from it now
[6:47] <abnormal> ok
[6:48] <driftwood_> how long you had your pi?
[6:48] <driftwood_> its my xmass present to myself this year
[6:49] <abnormal> I have 5 of them, 1st one over a yr.
[6:49] <driftwood_> wow so many
[6:49] <abnormal> am chatting you with one.
[6:49] <jalcine> wish there was a script I could just run to flash a SD card
[6:50] * jalcine looks at everyone :3
[6:50] <abnormal> windiskimr
[6:50] <driftwood_> eh
[6:50] <abnormal> in windows
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[6:51] <jalcine> no linux?
[6:52] <jalcine> prob assumes that you know how to if you're using linux :3
[6:53] <abnormal> I don't know that much of how to do it in linux, I have always made my images of OS on SD cards in my winblows lappy.
[6:55] <abnormal> besides, go to raspberrypi.org and in that site will tell you how to do it in linux
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[6:57] <Triffid_Hunter> jalcine: script? how about cat image > /dev/sd ?
[6:57] <Triffid_Hunter> jalcine: probably better to use dd BS=16M < image > /dev/sd
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[7:18] <driftwood_> what u use your raspberry pi s. for mostly?
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[7:19] <driftwood_> music server will be my first try once I finally get it running properly and use to it
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[7:26] <diytto> anybody have any idea why my rpi would be unconnectable on wifi?
[7:27] <driftwood_> believe raspberry pi can only detect a narrow range of WiFi dongles I read some were ( under raspbarian) .that's all I know
[7:30] <SirLagz> diytto: can the Pi detect your USB wifi dongle ?
[7:30] <diytto> SirLagz: yep
[7:30] <diytto> it has an ip and everything
[7:30] <SirLagz> diytto: can the Pi browse the internet ?
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[7:30] <diytto> don't know, i have no way to connect to it
[7:30] <diytto> it runs headless
[7:31] <SirLagz> so how do you know it has an IP address ?
[7:31] <diytto> my router
[7:31] <SirLagz> so it *had* an IP address
[7:31] <SirLagz> how do you know it's still got one now ?
[7:31] <diytto> well i suppose
[7:32] <SirLagz> I'd plug a screen into it and see what it's doing.
[7:32] <diytto> when i connect it to ethernet it shows an ip on the wireless
[7:32] <diytto> i can connect to it on ethernet
[7:32] <diytto> but when i disconnect it won't connect
[7:32] <diytto> do you think it just can't power it? i have a flash drive plugged in
[7:33] <SirLagz> diytto: if you connect the ethernet, then run sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0
[7:33] <SirLagz> what happens ?
[7:33] <diytto> hold on
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[7:35] <jalcine> Triffid_Hunter: thanks, worked like a charm!
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[7:42] <diytto> SirLagz: http://pastebin.com/nFtgpDvg
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[7:47] <SirLagz> diytto: ok, so if you now disconnect the ethernet, can you connect to 192.168.0.183 ?
[7:47] <SirLagz> diytto: via ssh ?
[7:48] <diytto> nope
[7:48] <diytto> i can try again
[7:48] <diytto> sec
[7:49] <diytto> lol
[7:49] <diytto> SirLagz: it worked now
[7:49] <diytto> it has never worked previously
[7:49] <diytto> lmao
[7:50] <diytto> that's actually rather annoying
[7:50] <SirLagz> magic :P
[7:50] <diytto> welp it appears i spoke too soon
[7:50] <diytto> it's now not responding
[7:51] <SirLagz> I'd plug a screen in then to see what's happening...
[7:51] <diytto> diamond:~ diytto$ ssh pi@192.168.0.183
[7:51] <diytto> ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.183 port 22: Host is down
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[7:54] <hispeed67> anybody know how to get CEC remote working under pidora?
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[7:56] <diytto> SirLagz: i got it to work after reboot
[7:56] <diytto> idk it's kinda iffy
[7:56] <diytto> could it be because of the usb drive i have plugged in?
[7:56] <SirLagz> possibly
[7:56] <diytto> hmm
[7:56] <SirLagz> are you powering it with a powered hub ?
[7:57] <diytto> no
[7:57] <diytto> from the pi
[7:57] <diytto> SirLagz: okay i have apache uninstalled, yet it still runs on reboot
[7:57] <diytto> how can i stop that :p
[7:58] <SirLagz> diytto: apache is still running on reboot ?
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[7:58] <diytto> yeah
[7:58] <diytto> no idea why
[7:58] <SirLagz> update-rc.d apache2 disable
[7:58] <SirLagz> with sudo at the front
[7:59] <SirLagz> though if you uninstalled it, it really shouldn't be running
[7:59] <diytto> yeah i don't get it
[7:59] <diytto> how would i add something to start on boot?
[8:00] <SirLagz> depends on what it is
[8:01] <diytto> well i would like nginx and mopidy to start on boot
[8:01] <SirLagz> apt-get installin nginx should start it on boot
[8:02] <SirLagz> no idea what mopidy is lol
[8:02] <diytto> i already have it installed, but i don't think it started
[8:02] <diytto> it doesn't show in htop
[8:02] <SirLagz> can you do /etc/init.d/nginx start ?
[8:03] <diytto> yeah
[8:03] <SirLagz> update-rc.d nginx enable defaults
[8:03] <SirLagz> with sudo lol
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[8:03] <SirLagz> I think that's it, off the top of my head
[8:03] <diytto> yeah i have done that before
[8:13] <diytto> SirLagz: pi@pixel ~ $ sudo update-rc.d nginx enable defaults
[8:13] <diytto> update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
[8:13] <diytto> update-rc.d: warning: enable action will have no effect on runlevel defaults
[8:13] <diytto> update-rc.d: error: no runlevel symlinks to modify, aborting!
[8:13] <diytto> is uh
[8:13] <diytto> is that bad
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[8:13] <SirLagz> yes. it means it didn't work
[8:13] <diytto> lmao
[8:14] <diytto> how do i fix it
[8:14] <SirLagz> good question. No idea lol.
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[8:15] <SirLagz> haven't played with nginx much unfortunately
[8:15] <diytto> :p
[8:15] <diytto> well
[8:15] <diytto> maybe i shall just reinstall
[8:15] <SirLagz> not at home to experiment either
[8:15] <SirLagz> that's an idea
[8:16] <diytto> yeah
[8:18] <Triffid_Hunter> jalcine: you're welcome :)
[8:19] <diytto> that appears to have fixed it
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[8:53] <shiftplusone> toasty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYf9HK-rI1s
[8:54] <shiftplusone> amazing what 12V can do to a pi O_o
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[8:58] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: nice
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[9:31] <SopaXorzTaker> Hey! I have heard that Pi boots using its GPU, who tried disassemblying bootcode.bin
[9:31] <SopaXorzTaker> what results?
[9:31] <shiftplusone> SopaXorzTaker, could you be a bit more specific about what you're interested in?
[9:32] <SopaXorzTaker> There's a bootloader written for GPU, did anyone try to disassemble it?
[9:32] <Xark> SopaXorzTaker: Check out https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv
[9:33] <shiftplusone> SopaXorzTaker, yes
[9:33] <shiftplusone> more specifically, http://hermanhermitage.github.io/videocore-disjs/dis.html
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[9:35] <SopaXorzTaker> omg, I am violating broadcom's terms
[9:35] <SopaXorzTaker> they will cry :<
[9:36] <shiftplusone> They have been entirely supportive and impressed by hermanhermitage's work.
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[12:00] <SopaXorzTaker> I quit ARM assembly! movxptresb r1, r2, pc, r15, r0
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[12:10] <MissPhilbin> Mornin'
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[12:46] <knob> Good morning all!
[12:46] <knob> =)
[12:47] <Armand> Moaning.
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[12:49] <knob> Morning Armand ! =)
[12:49] <knob> How you doing?
[12:49] <Armand> Ok, I guess.
[12:49] <Armand> My new model kit turned up from Japan, after 3 weeks.
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[12:51] <knob> model kit? What you order?
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[12:55] <Armand> Tamiya 1:12 scale 2005 Yahama YZR-M1
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[13:11] <ShorTie> is it the dehydrated version ??
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[13:12] <Armand> ?!
[13:13] <ShorTie> ya, once you get it built, sprinkle it with some water and poof it becomes full size operatitional object
[13:14] * ShorTie finds those hard to find though .. :/~
[13:15] <Armand> I wish.. lol
[13:15] <Armand> http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/14116yzr_m1/index.htm
[13:16] <ShorTie> sweet
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[13:18] <Mortvert> Hello. Does any of you have any idea if piplay's PSX emulator can play multidisc games?
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[13:19] <knob> Armand, Yamaha M1... nice!!! I will buy an R1 sometime in the future.
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[13:20] <knob> Can't say I love the latest design's look... yet, it's a beast of a machine.
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[13:44] <daedeloth> so I'm working on my first ever pcb in that Fritzing software thing
[13:44] <Triffid_Hunter> daedeloth: join #hackvana if you want help with PCB design
[13:45] <daedeloth> aha, nice, thanks
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[14:37] <Armand> knob, do you mean the 2014 model?
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[14:48] <knob> 2015
[14:48] <knob> Armand,
[14:48] <Armand> http://www.mcnews.com.au/wp-content/gallery/2015-yamaha-yzf-r1m-special-edition/15_R1M_Silver_4.jpg?4ff415
[14:48] <Armand> ?
[14:48] <knob> The 2014 model looks ridiculuously awesome. The 2015 looks... odd
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[15:03] <ozzzy> looks ridiculously uncomfortable to ride more than a mile or two
[15:03] <Armand> You'd probably think that of any racing bike.
[15:04] <ozzzy> yep
[15:04] <Triffid_Hunter> oh, motorbike.. I'm self-powered.. got about half a horsepower on tap :P
[15:05] <Armand> Hehehe.. Same.
[15:05] <Armand> Thankfully my commute to work is a 10 minute walk. :P
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[15:05] <ozzzy> speed limit here is 100km/h.... racing bikes/fast cars are a waste of money
[15:05] <Armand> 70MPH in the UK.
[15:06] <j416> ozzzy: where's here?
[15:06] <ozzzy> Ontario
[15:06] <j416> that's america, right
[15:06] <ozzzy> no
[15:06] <j416> hm
[15:06] * j416 googles
[15:06] <j416> oop
[15:06] <Armand> Close enough.
[15:06] <j416> s
[15:06] <j416> right, canada
[15:06] <Triffid_Hunter> Armand: I'm in a spot where it's actually faster to commute by bicycle than motor vehicle
[15:06] <j416> sorry, I mix those up
[15:07] <Armand> j416, it's easy.. One speaks French, the other barely speaks English. :P
[15:07] <j416> heh
[15:07] <j416> s/french/québecois/
[15:07] <amigojapan> ozzzy: cant you go to a racing ciruit and run yoru car there?
[15:07] <Armand> Yes!
[15:07] <ozzzy> amigojapan, yep... I could
[15:08] <Armand> There's a lot of nice tracks in the UK. ^_^
[15:08] <ozzzy> cheaper to rent one
[15:08] <amigojapan> ozzzy: here in Japan they have permitted go carts to run on the street if they have all hte security things to be ocnsidered a “mini car”
[15:08] <j416> amigojapan: lol that's hilarious
[15:08] <Armand> I want to get a cheapo, like a mk1/mk2 Mazda MX-5.
[15:09] <ozzzy> I figure my next vehicle will be a Ford F350
[15:09] <amigojapan> j416: I have been thinking about buying one…. the one I am thinking they say can run 90Kpm, which is super fast for a go cart
[15:09] <j416> lol
[15:09] <j416> don't kill yourself
[15:09] <amigojapan> :)
[15:09] <j416> amigojapan: have you driven a gocart?
[15:10] <amigojapan> j416: when I was a kid in Mexico yes, but I doubt they went anywhere near that fast
[15:10] <j416> then you know how they handle, imagine that at 90 km/h
[15:10] <j416> I would never dream of it
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[15:10] <j416> suicide
[15:10] <j416> get a mini car instead :)
[15:10] <j416> if you need.
[15:11] <Armand> I'm hoping I can organise a karting session with some of the guys at work.
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[15:11] <Armand> I've been out in electric karts.. It's not the same.
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[15:11] <j416> gocart is fun
[15:11] <amigojapan> j416: this is it http://clicccar.com/2011/09/10/59568/
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[15:12] <j416> amigojapan: lol wtf "ヘルメットの装着義務もないので風を感じて走ることができるんですね"
[15:12] <j416> crazy guy
[15:13] <amigojapan> yup
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[15:13] <amigojapan> it is a mini car, as far as rules and regulations go j416
[15:13] <j416> yeah but still...
[15:14] <j416> that's japan in a nutshell
[15:14] <j416> oh, there's no rule, so we don't need to
[15:14] <amigojapan> lol ok
[15:14] <j416> like children on bicycles in traffic without helmets
[15:14] <j416> :/
[15:14] <j416> amigojapan: buy a helmet for your son.
[15:14] * j416 read amigojapan's thought
[15:15] <amigojapan> j416: the helmet is a stupid invetion, they invented it to stop us from craking our heads, when what we should avoid is the activity that cracts our heards
[15:15] <j416> well
[15:15] <j416> fair enough. lol
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[15:15] <j416> then don't drive a car
[15:15] <j416> because you may crash
[15:15] <Armand> I want to find a scale model GMC Envoy.. not easy. :(
[15:15] <j416> oh and never go by train or plane
[15:15] <amigojapan> yup
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[15:16] <j416> oh and never don't go anywhere, because it's bad for your health not to move
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[15:16] <j416> oh and never go anywhere, because you might get hurt.
[15:16] * amigojapan imagins j416 wearing a helment in the plane and the train :)
[15:16] <j416> tss
[15:16] <j416> I'm sure the japanese would if there was a rule
[15:16] * j416 rofl
[15:17] <amigojapan> :)
[15:17] <j416> "you can't talk on the phone and you must wear a helmet when riding the train"
[15:17] <amigojapan> j416: if you are in a train accident, probably it is better if youa re wearing a helmet
[15:17] <amigojapan> lol :)
[15:17] <j416> heh, I don't doubt that
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[15:19] <amigojapan> j416: wear a helmet while sleeping, there woulc be an earthquake and stuff ould fall from the sealing :)
[15:19] <j416> good idea!
[15:19] <amigojapan> could*
[15:19] <j416> in sweden there are no earthquakes
[15:19] <j416> but that doesn't prevent the risk of the ceiling falling down anyway
[15:20] <j416> better sleep with helmet
[15:20] <amigojapan> j416: someone oculd hit you on the head with a bat whils sleeping
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[15:20] <j416> you never know.
[15:21] <amigojapan> j416: can you see the Aurora in sweden?
[15:22] <amigojapan> my wife baught a home planetarium gadget that projects stars and the Aurora on the celing… I think using a raspberry pi and a projector could achive a better more realistic effect than this...
[15:22] <amigojapan> unfortunately projectors are quite expensive
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[15:27] <Armand> Even a blasted Trailblazer would do.. >_<
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[15:41] <j416> amigojapan: yes, we can. But not in Stockholm.
[15:42] <amigojapan> j416: ah, I wish I can see it once before I die
[15:43] <niston> btw
[15:43] <niston> most ppl die in bed
[15:43] <niston> so don't ever think of sleeping
[15:44] <j416> amigojapan: I've only ever seen it once, and a very slight aurora
[15:44] <j416> just a couple years ago
[15:46] <j416> amigojapan: this is a 7 minute exposure of it, looks nice but kind of says something about how weak it was http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3207594/7d/_MG_7777_sRGB_1800.jpg
[15:47] <amigojapan> let me see j416
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[15:47] <amigojapan> j416: very nice
[15:47] <j416> amigojapan: here is a 2 minute exposure for comparison; with the naked eye this is about how it looked. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3207594/7d/_MG_7774_sRGB_1800.jpg
[15:48] <amigojapan> j416: the first one can be seen more clearly
[15:49] <j416> of course.
[15:55] <knob> j416, those photos are beautiful.
[15:56] <j416> knob: well the second one is just a reference, the first one I was happy with. thanks.
[15:56] <knob> Beautiful place. Snow... and stars... and auroras... nice =)
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[15:58] <j416> knob: another one for you on the same topic: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3207594/7d/_MG_7898_sRGB_1800.jpg
[15:58] <j416> the slight green light is the aurora
[15:58] <j416> the orange light under it is the light from a city
[15:58] <knob> Wow man... where on Earth are you located?
[15:58] <j416> this is in northern sweden
[15:58] <knob> This photos... mountains, snow... it looks so alien to me.
[15:59] <knob> Ah wow... beautiful!!
[15:59] <knob> will visit one day
[15:59] <j416> do that
[15:59] <j416> bring warm clothes.
[15:59] <j416> :D
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[15:59] <j416> it was -30°C
[15:59] <j416> on that lake
[16:00] <j416> (first photo was on a lake)
[16:00] <knob> Yowza!! Now I definitely want to go! Fot the "different experience"!!
[16:00] <knob> *For
[16:00] <j416> heh
[16:00] <j416> sorry for the OT.
[16:00] <knob> I live in Puerto Rico... so, snow here is non-existant.
[16:00] <knob> Ehh... no problem. The channel is quiet this morning/evening.
[16:00] <j416> alright. :)
[16:01] <knob> brb... going to grab something to eat.
[16:01] <Armand> I've actually been to PR!
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[16:02] <j416> whart is PR?
[16:02] <j416> -r
[16:02] <j416> what.
[16:02] <Armand> Puerto Rico
[16:02] * j416 googles
[16:02] <j416> oh, that
[16:02] <j416> sounds nice and warm
[16:02] <Armand> It's lovely.
[16:02] <Armand> We went to San Juan.. by the port.
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[16:05] <Kriminel> o/
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[16:08] <Kriminel> can i use mcp23s17Setup with wiringPi-php?
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[16:13] <gordonDrogon> Kriminel, if it's supported by the php module, then very probably.
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[16:14] <Kriminel> gordonDrogon thank you, is there a newer wiringPI-php module i can download? mine doesnt seem to have mcp23s17.o in wiringPi/wiringPi
[16:15] <Kriminel> nor the methods exported in wiringpi.php
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[16:24] <gordonDrogon> I didn't do the php wrappers for it. All I do is the C versions.
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[16:42] <Kriminel> gordonDrogon ok i'll do the wrapers miself, hopefully it will work! i'm this close to finishing a half a year long project :D
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[16:44] <gordonDrogon> Kriminel, get the latest wiringPi from http://wiringpi.com/
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[16:45] <Kriminel> sure thing, will update wiringPi and wiringPi-php
[16:48] <Kriminel> here it is in 99% hardware completed state, now working on the software to add music processing etc
[16:48] <Kriminel> http://ibin.co/1mJt5CFmJl2x
[16:48] <Kriminel> :-)
[16:49] <Mr_005> what are you making?
[16:49] <Kriminel> a 64 (expandable to 512) relay to control dumb lights for a christmas light show (now late)
[16:49] <Kriminel> relay channels*
[16:50] <Kriminel> as compact and electrically safe as possible
[16:50] <Kriminel> with 3d printed circuit paths and spacers, 4 mcp23s17 shift registers
[16:50] <Kriminel> and of course wiringPi on a rpi a+ :)
[16:51] <Mr_005> wow thats awesome! i want to do something with lights next year, but i doubt it will be that nice!
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[16:52] <Kriminel> i'm making it open source/open hardware and will provide the bill of materials and 3d files for printing, all components are off the shelf
[16:52] <Mr_005> ill have to check that out
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> I had plans to do up the town xmas tree this year, but other stuff got in the way.
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> I suspect the locals would just steal the kit anyway )-:
[16:53] <Kriminel> will do, i got the music processing automatically not vixen like manually created
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> I was going to make it TXTable - where you could text in a simple pattern code - ie. write a program in 160 characters to control the lights...
[16:54] <Kriminel> i did it a bit more differently, i used a photoshounder to create a 64x(seconds*100) image from an mp3 file
[16:55] <Kriminel> then using GD library to read that pictogram pixel by pixel and determine if i should turn on or off the channel
[16:55] <Kriminel> i'm too lazy to make the show manually for 4+minutes mp3s
[16:55] <Kriminel> :D
[16:56] <Kriminel> i got it working in php though, i have a wiringpi based C program to control all 64 channels but my C skills are too rusty to merge the image processing and the SPI controller into one C image, hence the need for wiringPi-PHP.
[16:56] <Kriminel> I hope that'll be fast enough though, the playback is at 10fps
[16:57] <Kriminel> 100fps actually
[16:57] <Kriminel> i could slow it down though
[16:57] <gordonDrogon> I suspect it moght not be in PHP.
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[16:59] <Elezium> Hi, what is the most common ADC modules? (I want to read some analog sensor like temp) and the easiest to use ;)
[16:59] <Kriminel> so far the traces look allright on the A+, and i managed to get over 500fps with a loop and wiringpi controlling all 64 channels with 0 delay between them
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[17:00] <gordonDrogon> Kriminel, in php?
[17:00] <Kriminel> in C though
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> ok
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> Elezium, the easiest is the one you already know how to use ...
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[17:00] <Elezium> gordonDrogon: well said... ;) I have the ADS1015, but the reading does not seems to be steady
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[17:02] <gordonDrogon> looks simple enough. I2C.
[17:03] <gordonDrogon> stick the readings through a digital low-pass filter to smooth them out. You're always going to get a little bit of flutter on the least significant bit or 2.
[17:03] <Elezium> yup... it seems simple ... can a bad soldering cause the reading to "flicker" a little?
[17:04] <gordonDrogon> ie. take reading - stick it into an (e.g.) 8 value deep circular buffer, then add all 8 up, divide by 8 to get the reading ...
[17:04] <gordonDrogon> analog noise, cheap sensors, long wiring, cosmic particles, phase of moon ... analog is all wibbly wobbly ...
[17:04] <Elezium> gordonDrogon: nice idea... so basically, do a average for 8 readings.. humm
[17:05] <gordonDrogon> Elezium, not quite an average - it's the average of the last 8 readings - ie. the 9th overwrites the oldest - circular buffer and so on.
[17:05] <Elezium> ;) I see... well... it's double check my soldering .. and try you method (the 8 last readings) Thanks!
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[17:09] <Kriminel> gordonDrogon here it is at 100fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbXJxGa0X98
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[17:09] <Kriminel> and here it is at 100fps (slowed down with a 5ms delay per channel) running the C program:
[17:09] <Kriminel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQIScw1YV2c
[17:10] <Kriminel> if i didnt added the delay all 64 relays would all fire almost instantaneously
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> :)
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> how long do you think the relays will last...
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> switching AC of DC ?
[17:11] <Kriminel> AC
[17:11] <Kriminel> but AC is not connected for now now
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[17:13] <Kriminel> Control relay life cycle varies from 50,000 to over one million cycles depending on the electrical loads of the contacts, duty cycle, application, and the extent to which the relay is derated. When a control relay is operating at its derated value, it is controlling a lower value of current than its maximum make and break ratings. This is often done to extend the operating life of the
[17:13] <Kriminel> control relay. The table lists the relay derating factors for typical industrial control applications.
[17:13] <Kriminel> from wikipedia
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[17:14] <gordonDrogon> ok - if it's AC, make sure the relays stay closed for at least one cycle - so 100 fps is a bit too fast..
[17:14] <Kriminel> now each relay can handle 2.4kWh (10A @220V) but are connected in pairs of two and limited to 10A with a breaker so 1.2kWh which should double their lifetime
[17:14] <Kriminel> yes i'm adding a 1ms delay after one relay's cycle
[17:14] <Kriminel> to make sure there's no arc
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[17:15] <gordonDrogon> well, one cycle at 50Hz is 20mS ...
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[17:15] <Kriminel> ah right
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[17:15] <Kriminel> i guess i can increase the latency per fired channel
[17:16] <Kriminel> it shouldnt affect the show too much
[17:16] <Kriminel> because i calculated 100fps with all 64 channels fireing, but thats not the case in most songs
[17:16] <gordonDrogon> and in no-time at all, you'll be playing something from the Transiberian orchestra...
[17:17] <Kriminel> yeah i think 10fps should be better, with 20ms delay after one channel was turned off
[17:17] <Kriminel> i'll do some more tests once i'm getting mcp23s17 to work in php, and to see if its fast enough
[17:18] <gordonDrogon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ehUqpwrnU
[17:18] <Kriminel> those are a mix of smart and dumb lights
[17:18] <Kriminel> i think
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[17:19] <Kriminel> brb
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[17:55] <RonXS> Someone with a piface able to tell me why my input reads 0 the first time i query it and always 1 after (pfio.digital_read(0) as command)
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[18:22] <Elezium> For those living in Canada (if any), where do you order your Pi stuff from?
[18:22] <heller\> anyone know where does adafruit_dht library go when i install it?
[18:22] <heller\> or where are python libraries installed to?
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[18:23] <nerdboy> depends on how you install...
[18:23] <heller\> well, python setup.py install :p
[18:23] <nerdboy> if you run the setup.py manually they should end up in /usr/local/lib/python...
[18:24] <nerdboy> ...python-2.7/dist-packages most likely
[18:25] <heller\> hmm
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[18:26] <heller\> pi@anturiPi ~/dht22/Adafruit_Python_DHT $ ls /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/|grep Ada
[18:26] <heller\> Adafruit_DHT-1.0.0-py2.7-linux-armv6l.egg
[18:26] <heller\> .egg?
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[19:03] <anna> Should /root/boot be empty on my raspbian card?
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[19:11] <nerdboy> try mount /boot
[19:12] <anna> my start.elf somehow corrupted last night
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[19:19] <shiftplusone> heh, bug report of the year. https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/339
[19:20] <shiftplusone> anna, /boot/ would be empty, yes. It's just a directory that the boot partition would be mounted on. The actual boot partition would contain the files.
[19:20] <shiftplusone> anna, why do you think start.elf is corrupted though?
[19:20] <anna> LED blinks 4 times
[19:20] <anna> Already tested power, and the fuse. All is well.
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[19:21] <anna> I can't even get the data off the card I want to back up
[19:21] <anna> Read only. Anyone know how to fix that?
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[19:23] <shiftplusone> anna, make sure the read only tab isn't locked. Are you writing to the root partition or the boot partition? could you pastebin the output of mount?
[19:23] <anna> I just put the card in my laptop
[19:23] <anna> Switch isn't activated
[19:24] <anna> Just trying to copy a directory over
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[19:45] <daedeloth> are there any specific gpio ports that I should (not) use?
[19:45] <daedeloth> I don't have the B+ yet, but I guess I should design for that one now
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[19:50] <ShorTie> i think you can redefine any gpio port to a 'normal' gpio port, but if you do not need any extras i would stay any from the 1's that are normally defined as somthing, like rx/tx's, spi's, i2c's, ...
[19:50] <daedeloth> aaah ok GPIO_GEN0 are normal ones as well I guess?
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[19:51] <gordonDrogon> daedeloth, you can use any gpio pin that you can physically connect to - however (in Raspbian) the Tx/Rx pins are used but you can get Raspbian to un-use them if you need to use them yourself.
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[20:21] <anna> Can I clone SD cards so if one dies and corrupts, I can plug in the other and have it boot up as if it was the normal one?
[20:21] <anna> Or like, write to an external backup drive at the same time
[20:23] <mikroskeem> anna: yes you can clone and write to external backup drive
[20:23] <anna> Like, with a USB flash drive?
[20:24] <ShorTie> ya, rpi-clone works good
[20:26] <anna> cool thanks
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[21:00] <knob> ShorTie, I just googled rpi-clone... .wowza
[21:01] <knob> nice
[21:01] <knob> veru useful
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[21:03] <knob> Dang... this rpi-clone script... this is super useful. It can cut down my rpi creation time considerable.
[21:03] <knob> *considerably
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[21:17] <ShorTie> it seems nicest to me if you run it from a directory that doesn't get cloned though
[21:17] <ShorTie> like /mnt
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[21:18] <knob> ShorTie, I plan on testing this tonight...
[21:18] <knob> Can you elaborate some?
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[21:19] <knob> What do you mean to run it from a directory that doesn't get cloned (eg, /mnt)?
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[21:19] <knob> Create a new directory, and... drop rpi-clone in there?
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[21:19] <ShorTie> no, /mnt is there
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[21:20] <ShorTie> that is where it like does it's thing
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[21:20] <knob> So... I should... navigate over to /mnt and then... run it?
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[21:20] <ShorTie> otherwize it seems like the clone comes out bigger then the original
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[21:21] <ShorTie> or atleast to me
[21:21] <knob> ShorTie, thanks for the heads up.
[21:21] <knob> Yet I am still kinda lost as to how to run it "from /mnt"
[21:21] <ShorTie> try it is all i can say, don't know where you put things
[21:21] <knob> ok
[21:22] <knob> Thanks... will report back later tonight.
[21:22] <ShorTie> i was using /usr/local/src like i always do
[21:23] <ShorTie> you gotta run it as root most likely best from ssh but atleast in a terminal window
[21:23] <ShorTie> so just 'cd /mnt' and get clone it there
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[21:24] <knob> ahh ok ok
[21:24] <knob> Aight... the rPi I will be testing is headless... so I will be in via ssh.
[21:24] <knob> I will then do that test (head over to /mnt and run rpi-clone).
[21:24] <ShorTie> you want to keep sdcard activaty to a min
[21:25] <knob> This is very useful for me... well, let me test the time it takes to do it.
[21:25] <ShorTie> that is why i said ssh best
[21:25] <knob> At the moment, I have a script that once I install the basic raspbian image, I update it, then compile a couple of programs that take me 2-3 hours.
[21:25] <knob> So if I could cut that down, it would be good.
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[21:26] <ShorTie> do it from a desktop window, lxde could be change file stuff on you as it runs
[21:26] <ShorTie> so it might cornfuse the clone
[21:27] <knob> cool cool... will test later tonight.
[21:27] <knob> Seems very useful.
[21:27] <knob> I want to see how much time it takes.
[21:27] <knob> At the moment, I have a small script I wrote up where it does almost everything I need.
[21:28] <knob> Yet considerable savings in my time are always welcomed.
[21:28] <knob> =)
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[21:29] <ShorTie> it might take awhile the 1st time to a sdcard
[21:29] <ShorTie> but if it is just updating the clone, it cuts down on the amount of time
[21:30] <knob> cool cool
[21:30] <knob> Thanks =)
[21:30] <knob> will update later!
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[21:31] <ShorTie> i'm trying to make it so it will make an image also
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[21:50] <nerdboy> anna: there are many ways to do that, although i hadn't heard of rpi-clone before...
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[21:51] <nerdboy> tar and rsync can both "back up" your rootfs, or just dd your card to an image file and compress with xz
[21:52] * nerdboy builds gentoo-rpi image on wandboard quad and rsyncs the filesystem to the card...
[21:52] <ShorTie> rsync is basically what it uses
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[21:53] <ShorTie> it dd's the first partition and rsync's the rest
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[22:25] <martk100> Is there a pre compiles version of xbmc available? It used to be available from memetic.org.
[22:30] <martk100> Alternatively is it possible to have dual boot on raspi? I could have raspbian on one and raspbmc on the other.
[22:30] <abnormal> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12455
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[22:30] <martk100> abnormal: Thanks
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[22:31] <abnormal> dual booting is not recommended... most ppl just change the SD card
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[22:33] <abnormal> I have many SD cards, one distro on each card... not hard to change them...
[22:33] <martk100> abnormal: I thought that. I would rather have only one sd card.
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[22:33] <abnormal> what I did was buy many pi's and one distro each... I have 5 pi's now...
[22:35] <martk100> Abnormal: I will have a good look at the info soon. Thanks very much.
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[22:35] <abnormal> and 4 pi's on one monitor via a Rockectfish HDMI video switch box.
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[22:36] <martk100> abnormal: My pi will be stand alone. It has to only one pi. I could swap the sd cards though.
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[22:37] <abnormal> ok good luck and remove / insert the SD cards very carefully each time.
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[22:37] <martk100> abnormal: Yes indeed.
[22:37] <martk100> bye
[22:38] <abnormal> bye
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[23:15] <kd7jwc> has anyone worked with the fldigi 3.22.04 and a b+, it isnt giving me the option for port audio and i have libportaudio2 installed. any ideas
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[23:29] <abnormal> well due to my searches... absolutely nothing shows up.....
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[23:29] <omfgtora> due to your searches? your searches caused nothing to show up?
[23:30] <abnormal> ask niston ? he probably knows...
[23:30] <abnormal> that's correct, omfgtora
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