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IRC Log for 2014-12-31

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[0:00] <Bilby> it takes time when you're doing while troubleshooting customer crap over the phone
[0:02] <willmore> I was going to say if you are, then that's an accomplishment. If you have normal color vision, that's like saying "I made coffee".
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[0:02] <willmore> But, on the phone counts as a disability, too. :)
[0:02] <Bilby> lol
[0:02] <Bilby> I was talking to uuh other people in here about it earlier
[0:02] <Bilby> besides, once is coffee. 25 is annoying.
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[0:03] <willmore> 14" is annoying. 14' and you can do something with them.
[0:03] <Bilby> this is why punch panels were invented, because someone looked at 50 drops and went aaawwww hell nooooo
[0:03] <Bilby> willmore it's for a tiny patch panel. replacing a bunch of 3-6ft cables
[0:03] <willmore> Ahh. Cleaning up.
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[0:04] <willmore> Then the next guy looks at all those silly short cables and says "ever heard of a switch?"
[0:04] <Bilby> lol
[0:04] <willmore> :)
[0:05] <Bilby> this is like a 13-U rackmount thingie on a wall that's supporting a small office
[0:05] <Bilby> and it had 2 24 port patch panels and 3 16 port 10/100 switches of various vintage
[0:06] <willmore> 13U?
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[0:06] <willmore> Was this from the 90's?
[0:06] <Bilby> replaced with 2 24-port gigabit switches + 8-port PoE capable managed switch
[0:06] <Bilby> hell, probably
[0:07] <willmore> So, 4U at best?
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[0:08] <Bilby> 3 U for switches, 4 U for patch bays, 2 U for a shelf that i moved the modem + router on
[0:08] <willmore> I was wondering if you were making a rPi based baowolf cluster. :)
[0:08] <Bilby> it was sitting on a rickety old wire rack
[0:08] <Bilby> lol
[0:08] <willmore> beowolf? Hmm, my spell checker doesn't speak ancient Norse.
[0:10] <Bilby> beowolf is correct i believe
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[0:12] <Froolap> god dag
[0:12] <Herb_Tarlek> unless you're putting Charles in charge, when it would be Baiowulf
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[0:14] <omfgtora> has anyone used a microSD to eMMC adapter for their pi?
[0:14] <willmore> Herb_Tarlek, nice.
[0:16] <Bilby> willmore - I don't have any "before" photos posted yet, but here's an "in progress" photo: http://i.imgur.com/BD1jVzg.jpg
[0:17] <willmore> Bilby, looks nice.
[0:17] <omfgtora> i mean, is that possible?
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[0:17] <willmore> omfgtora, I don't know enough to know for sure, but I don't think so. That answer has a very low confidence score.
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[0:17] <omfgtora> if you could use an eMMC adapter for the microSD slot, wouldnt that make for a much faster boot and OS?
[0:17] <abnormal> looks like you need more....
[0:18] <willmore> The rPi has a slow SD interface, so putting a very fast device on it doesn't speed things up.
[0:18] <Bilby> that
[0:18] <omfgtora> i also heard that microSD isn't that great for an OS in general because constant read/write makes them die quickly, is that true?
[0:19] <willmore> Sure. As the saying goes "don't do that".
[0:19] <Bilby> ahaha
[0:19] <Bilby> omfgtora that's as true for an SD as it is for an SSD
[0:20] <omfgtora> i see
[0:20] <Bilby> basically "Yes, but unless you're constantly hammering the cache or forcing it to write the same location over and over, you'll be fine"
[0:20] <willmore> Yep
[0:20] <Bilby> A Pertinent Discussion: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=21281
[0:21] <omfgtora> but from what i understand the SSD controllers make sure they write evenly across all the NAND flash memory, similar to RAID
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[0:22] <Bilby> that's true, and if you have a swap that gets used a lot it could possibly slightly reduce the card's lifetime
[0:23] <omfgtora> could i set up swap on a USB HDD?
[0:24] <barfoo365> Raspbian keeps freezing seemingly randomly when updating etc.. I suspect the USB stick is failing, is there a way to scan it for errors to see if it is the culprit?
[0:25] <Bilby> you could but... it's cheaper to just replace the card when it wears out (it won't)
[0:25] <willmore> The number of people saying "use a USB flash drive" make me cringe. You know that USB connectors flake out after a few months of being connected, right? They need to be unplugged/plugged to clean the contacts.
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[0:26] <willmore> WRT Bilby's link....
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[0:27] <omfgtora> willmore, why would they need to be reinserted often to clean them? how is the connection changed if they are unmoved?
[0:27] <omfgtora> and thanks, bilby, for the link. it was very helpful!
[0:29] <willmore> omfgtora, oxidation.
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[0:40] <omfgtora> what causes the oxidation? the voltage running through it?
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[0:43] <niston> oxygen?
[0:43] <Bilby> oxygen, generally </s>
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[0:44] <Bilby> sometimes you'll see the contacts on the cards look dull or foggy, that's the beginning of oxydation
[0:44] <omfgtora> where i work there are computers that all of the usb connections have not been touched for years and i have never seen any problem with oxidation
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[0:44] <Bilby> afaik most cards use straight copper contacts which will oxidize... oxydyze... they'll rust eventually
[0:45] <Bilby> it takes a pretty large amount of it to be noticable, and with stuff like USB there's a little layer of copper that gets scraped off every time you insert it anyhow
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[0:46] <Bilby> but fwiw i've never heard of long-term USB flaking due to oxidation
[0:46] <Bilby> mice and keyboards in particular rarely get unplugge
[0:46] <omfgtora> and wouldnt keeping a USB device plugged in reduce the possibility of oxidation especially where the connectors make contact with each other?
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[0:48] <Bilby> rust begets rust and the contact points on USB are tiny
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[0:48] <omfgtora> the thing is... i got my pi to make a portable emulator station, but i feel i just dont get very good emulation for later gaming systems like playstation games
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[0:50] <omfgtora> and ideally i want to emulate more than just the older consoles
[0:51] <shiftplusone> I think you're asking a little too much of the humble pi
[0:51] <Bilby> raspi doesn't have the chutzpah for anything newer than Sega Saturn / 32x or N64 afaik
[0:51] <ozzzy> maybe you want something with a bit more muscle LOL
[0:51] <Bilby> Pi is a cute lil one with a lot of go-get-'em, but high on horsepower she ain't
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[0:51] <omfgtora> right, and i was thinking of getting somethign else like an ODROID-XU3 but i dunno
[0:52] <omfgtora> i got the pi cause it was a cheap way to try out the concept
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[0:52] <shiftplusone> If you're getting an odroid, why would you get anything other than the C3?
[0:52] <ozzzy> a Pi is like a Citroen 2CV.... it's small, cute and zippy... but don't try to pull heavy loads
[0:52] <shiftplusone> *C1
[0:52] <Herb_Tarlek> It annoys the hell out of Clarkson?
[0:52] <shiftplusone> Same price as the pi, but on steroids
[0:52] <omfgtora> i just dont know enough to know what i need or what to expect
[0:53] <Bilby> Pi is like a CB350. Cheap and fun and it'll get you there eventially, but it's not going to blow your mind with speed
[0:53] <Bilby> Herb_Tarlek hah!
[0:53] <omfgtora> i dont really want speed, i just dont like lag
[0:54] <Bilby> The Banana Pi is like A Maserati Biturbo, then ;)
[0:54] <ozzzy> omfgtora, if you don't like lag you want speed
[0:54] <omfgtora> yes
[0:54] <omfgtora> more speed = less lag
[0:54] <Herb_Tarlek> I would call it the Toyota Hilux
[0:54] <ozzzy> the Raspi doesn't do speed
[0:54] <Bilby> lag = computer going "one moment please, i know I put those frames somewhere..."
[0:54] <omfgtora> right
[0:55] <Bilby> assuming someone's compiled a PS1 / Xbox emulator for ARM you could use another ARM-based system
[0:55] <omfgtora> the C1 does have a gigabit ethernet port...
[0:55] <omfgtora> but the XU3 has 2gb ram
[0:56] <omfgtora> and USB3
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[0:56] <shiftplusone> You said you wanted to emulate stuff
[0:57] <adekto> hey i was wondering about that compute module
[0:57] <omfgtora> the C1 is still an ARM processor, no?
[0:58] <shiftplusone> yes
[0:58] <shiftplusone> adekto, anything in particular?
[0:58] <adekto> wel 2 things
[0:58] <omfgtora> so, wouldnt an XU3 lite be better than the C1?
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[0:59] <adekto> any boards out there that use multiple to get bit more performance
[0:59] <adekto> and why is it the most expensive in the line
[1:00] <shiftplusone> multiple compute modules to get more performance? that's not really a sensible way of doing things. And it's more expensive because it's for a different market.
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[1:00] <adekto> different market how?
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[1:01] <shiftplusone> It's not for for kids, it's for industrial customers with proper engineers.
[1:01] <adekto> oh
[1:02] <adekto> are there any others using the same io with that ddr conector?
[1:02] <shiftplusone> nope
[1:03] <adekto> would be nice for 3D printers as a "expansion card"
[1:03] <Bilby> I suppose you could parallel compute modules but you'd need to build something to process it
[1:03] <Bilby> which would take more work than just building / buying a system that can do it
[1:03] <adekto> i geus so
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[1:03] <Bilby> might be useful if you have a lot of specialized IO needs and it works well with a parallel processing model
[1:04] <Bilby> but i can't think of a place offhand where the compute module would be the best application <_<
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[1:06] <Bilby> more than one, anyhow. I can see the moduel itself being a possible option for companies that build robotics for manufacturing and the like, since it's easy to program and integrate and the hardware platform itself is already well-tested
[1:06] <adekto> im wondering if it would give beter graphics and stuff, similar to SLI on gpu's
[1:06] <Xark> Bilby: I agree. I can't imagine they are selling loads of those (but maybe more "embedded" RPis than I am aware of).
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[1:06] <Bilby> adekto bear in mind that SLI itself only works because the chipsets and drivers are explicitly designed to work that way
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[1:07] <adekto> yea ok
[1:07] <Bilby> Xark I can see where some companies could move to it from more specialized / expensive hardware
[1:07] <checkit> Hey guys... Anyone here tried to stick virtualization software on a primary raspberri and slave two others?
[1:07] <Bilby> since it's easy to prototype on a pi
[1:07] <Bilby> especially in an application where every watt / every mm counts
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[1:08] <Bilby> I've tried booting a linux thin client on a client from a desktop server
[1:08] <Bilby> it didn't work :(
[1:08] <Herb_Tarlek> I actually want a compute model, simply for completionist's sake
[1:08] <adekto> so compute module is best suted for robotics basicly
[1:08] <Herb_Tarlek> I'm not paying $200 for the interface board, though
[1:09] <Bilby> adekto well, robotics in a production environment
[1:09] <checkit> I'm trying to figure out how to essentially combine the resources of three pi's to create a single (more powerful) box
[1:09] <Bilby> and iirc there are some interfaces the compute module exposes that the Pi doesn't utilize, so that may be a plus
[1:09] <adekto> i want to build a pi bot now XD
[1:09] <Bilby> hehe
[1:09] <Bilby> there are kits out there :D
[1:09] <adekto> realy?
[1:09] <adekto> how advanced
[1:09] <Bilby> and for anything that's learning / small scale based the regular pi is fine
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[1:10] <Bilby> one from the welcome to pi post i had a few days ago: http://www.dexterindustries.com/GoPiGo/
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[1:12] <Bilby> adekto and these guys who make a pretty tough-looking little guy https://www.piborg.org/index.php?q=diddyborg
[1:12] <adekto> any humaniods
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[1:13] <Bilby> uuuh, that's a bit far for a pi
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[1:14] <adekto> oh
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[1:14] <Bilby> i mean, you could probably build a face or something
[1:15] <Bilby> but balancing a huminoid is nontrivial even for pretty skilled college groups
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[1:15] <adekto> somthing like a darwin?
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[1:17] <ShorTie> other then a college class, i can't see much use in the cm, imho
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[1:18] <Bilby> In production volume it's pretty handy as a moderate-size IoT controller
[1:19] <ShorTie> design time, money and effert would have been better spent on a new SoC, imho
[1:19] <Bilby> but you'd need backing for the engineering and integration to get it rolling
[1:19] <Bilby> maybe. There'd be a marketing advantage
[1:19] <Bilby> Get the New PTZ internet webcam, Powered By Raspberry Pi(tm)!
[1:20] <Bilby> but yeah, i know what you mean
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[1:23] <ShorTie> i just learned Eben use to work for broadcom, so he had inside info when designing it i guess
[1:24] <abnormal> yup
[1:25] <abnormal> and that's why we have pi's....
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[1:25] <Xark> ShorTie: Did he quit his Broadcom job, I thought he was still there?
[1:26] <ShorTie> and so cheaply i think because the real use of the SoC was a flop, but just guessing there
[1:26] <ShorTie> oh, not sure there to tell you the truth
[1:27] <abnormal> yeh, he moved on to another job but can't remember which one, then discovered the pi...
[1:28] <Xark> abnormal: I haven't heard that. Wikipedia says he is till TD at Broadcom...
[1:28] <ShorTie> TD ??
[1:28] <Xark> ShorTie: Technical Director
[1:28] <ShorTie> oh
[1:28] <abnormal> ok then me wrong
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[1:29] <ShorTie> can't really see that to be honest
[1:29] <abnormal> I have a magazine of his editor talk about the pi.
[1:30] <abnormal> I'll have to dig it out and re-read it...
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[1:33] <shiftplusone> The story of how it all came about isn't exactly secret. He was on the design team of the SoC. He had the idea for a pi for ages, but the original idea was that it would be a simple thing like an arduino capable of running python sketches. It would be all closed source and without linux. Then this chip came about and he decided that if they added an ARM core to it, it would make an awesome base for this platform that he and the other
[1:33] <shiftplusone> co-founders have had in mind.
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[1:36] <SpeedEvil> That seems unlikely
[1:36] <SpeedEvil> AIUI, it was an already existing product
[1:37] <shiftplusone> nope
[1:37] <shiftplusone> The pi is why the ARM core is even in there.
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[1:38] <Xark> shiftplusone: I have never heard that version before. I think the SoC (GPU+ARM) was already a Broadcom product that was used in RPi.
[1:40] <shiftplusone> From the horse's mouth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAHBZImmXsI#t=580
[1:40] <ShorTie> you make it sound like the SoC was designed just for the pi
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[1:42] <shiftplusone> with the correct time stamp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAHBZImmXsI#t=580
[1:42] <shiftplusone> bah, sorry.. same one
[1:43] <shiftplusone> there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAHBZImmXsI#t=668
[1:44] <shiftplusone> but no, it wasn't designed for the pi, but it was partially designed with the pi in mind.
[1:44] <niston> advantage of being on the design team
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[2:34] <niston> "The product is possessed of stable performance, excellent quality and reasonable price"
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[2:37] <shiftplusone> Well, it doesn't claim to be possessed of English.
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[2:37] <niston> hehe
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[2:52] <abnormal> well it is made in the UK so at least it ain't Chinese
[2:53] <shiftplusone> abnormal, what is?
[2:53] <abnormal> pi
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[2:53] <shiftplusone> ah, what niston said wasn't about the pi
[2:53] <abnormal> or what ever you guys talking about...
[2:54] <shiftplusone> I'm sure whatever he's quoting, is indeed Chinese
[2:54] <abnormal> I see... dang...
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[2:54] * shiftplusone gives abnormal an F for not paying attention in class.
[2:55] <abnormal> accepted....
[2:55] <abnormal> cheerfully...
[2:55] <niston> man
[2:55] <niston> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?mpart=FDB-1027&vendor=775
[2:56] <niston> 400 quid and it doesn't even include an i2c frontend
[2:56] * shiftplusone adds a detention to that
[2:56] <niston> indeed wasn't referring to Pi
[2:57] <shiftplusone> Aye, I think most pi people can write English goodly.
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[2:58] <abnormal> ok what do I need to do? teacher?
[2:58] <shiftplusone> just site there for an hour in silence, if I recall correctly.
[2:58] <shiftplusone> *sit
[2:59] <abnormal> yes sir!
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[2:59] <dougquaid> Does anyone know if there is a repo for raspbian for the rtlsdr suite, particularly rtl_tcp?
[3:00] <Herb_Tarlek> yes, but I don't remember exactly where to get it
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[3:01] <Herb_Tarlek> I've run it on one of my Pis, it worked OK
[3:01] <shiftplusone> pi isn't a tad slow for that stuff?
[3:01] <dougquaid> shiftplusone: That's what I intend to find out
[3:01] <Herb_Tarlek> it can *barely* keep up, but it does keep up
[3:01] <shiftplusone> hm, cool.
[3:01] <dougquaid> I've got a b+, so hopefully it'll work
[3:02] <Herb_Tarlek> check rtl-sdr.com, that's probably where I got the instructions from
[3:02] <Herb_Tarlek> or they linked to instructions
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[3:21] <_marto_> Hello. Today I was talking here about how to power a few PIs using a hub or something, in order to avoid having multiple PSUs
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[3:22] <_marto_> Sadly, my internet provider decided that it will rest for a few hours
[3:23] <_marto_> A few hours later started googling around agaein and found this: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/24227/powering-a-stack-of-raspberry-pis
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[3:23] <_marto_> As I was asking here for this, I just wanted to point to the link in case someone else was looking for the same
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[3:26] <shiftplusone> That's good of you. Most people would just say 'nvrm, I figured it out', if anything.
[3:28] <_marto_> I don't know if this channel has stored logs somewhere, so just in case
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[3:30] <shiftplusone> yup, http://srv.datagutt1.com/
[3:30] <shiftplusone> as long as the logging bot hasn't been drinking, anyway.
[3:31] <pksato> http://www.usbgeek.com/products/10-usb-port-multi-output-power-strip
[3:32] <pksato> http://blog.thelifeofkenneth.com/2013/02/diy-usb-power-strip.html
[3:32] <_marto_> Thanks pksato. I've seen a few of those devices, but I'm not sure how reliable are they. Have you tested some model/brand?
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[3:35] <_marto_> Yes, there is always the DIY option, but I'm more a software man. My abilities soldering things...it didn't end well last time I tried, and I love my raspi :-P
[3:37] <pksato> I have only one unpowered RPi.
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[3:39] <ozzzy> I built several pi projects... determined that none were really useful and have put it away
[3:39] <ozzzy> someday I'll think of something else
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[3:50] <acidjazz> hi everyone
[3:50] <acidjazz> hey all whats hte word on the b+ and the partical/minimal usb controller? i dont mind using a powered hub but I need to power about 4-5 devices
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[5:54] <converge> I cant format my sd card (the one that comes with raspberry pi, does someone knows how to fix it?
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[5:57] <Dako300> I got an RPi model A+, what should I do with it?
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[5:59] <qmr> hiya. Do I need to do anything to enable GPIO on Arch Linux Arm?
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[6:38] <qmr> anyone? :P
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[6:45] <SirLagz> qmr: no idea !
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[7:19] <heller\> is there an easy wireless switch to be controlled with rpi?
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[7:23] <TwystNeko> hey folks. I've just gotten a Raspi B+, and installed OctoPi. However, the whole thing is really, really laggy. I'm using a class 10, 8G microSD. Any idea what's causing the lag? I have a webcam, a wifi dongle, and the 3d printer plugged in directly. (printer has its own PSU, actually)
[7:24] <TwystNeko> I've done nothing but setup OctoPi and the network.
[7:24] <Wendell_> Maybe check the memory split?
[7:24] <TwystNeko> How might I do that?
[7:24] <Wendell_> raspi-config -> advanced config
[7:24] <Wendell_> I thinkl
[7:24] <Wendell_> you need to run it as sudo
[7:25] <TwystNeko> okay, I'll give that a shot
[7:27] <Wendell_> I'm trying to get my Pi working with my rift and I'm coming across a small problem you guys might be able to help me with
[7:28] <Wendell_> there's some odd... striping? on the screen
[7:28] <Wendell_> looks like this:
[7:28] <Wendell_> https://s3.amazonaws.com/pushbullet-uploads/ujwpxBW0HzU-s3GGxJpwEmtm2mw8O3zgtLoXZ9RSxUV2/IMG_20141230_013618.jpg
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[7:29] <TwystNeko> okay.. so what should I be looking at? I'm running this thing headless, so set GPU to 16?
[7:29] <TwystNeko> it's currently set to 128
[7:30] <Wendell_> maybe?
[7:30] <Wendell_> give it a shot!
[7:34] <TwystNeko> how about overclock? Is that something to try? Is it a power issue with everything plugged into the Pi, not a hub?
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[7:36] <Wendell_> you might want to ask someone else about that :P
[7:36] <Wendell_> I'm not too experienced myself
[7:36] <aum> hi - can someone please recommend a (reasonably priced) I/O breakout board for an RPi Model B? Requirements are (i) 2 analog inputs, (ii) 1 or 2 PWM outputs, (iii) 4 digital inputs, (iv) 4 digital outputs
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[7:38] <qmr> TwystNeko: depends on the psu, but yes, overclock. you can overclock a little with no worries. possibly a lot if you play with it
[7:39] <qmr> your SD card probably just sucks for this. most do
[7:39] <TwystNeko> I'm using a 1.5A psu, but I can pretty trivially get a better one if needed.
[7:40] <qmr> I just swapped mine .. it was rated 2.3, but my USB was being dodgy :(
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[7:41] <TwystNeko> well, changed memory split to 16, and oc'd to max. seems to be running decently now
[7:42] <qmr> I suggest loading cpu and ram, or at least cpu for a few hours to see how stable it is ]
[7:43] <qmr> not sure if you can damage it or not
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[7:46] <TwystNeko> ugh
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[7:46] <Wendell_> qmr: do you have any idea what might be going wrong here?
[7:47] <Wendell_> https://s3.amazonaws.com/pushbullet-uploads/ujwpxBW0HzU-3GtimzyMX92I6910LJwx3exwYVB8QGDs/IMG_20141229_171303.jpg
[7:49] <qmr> TwystNeko: I'm going to guess the settings in the config are probably safe-ish. I know some people go past those to like 1.1, maybe 1.2ghz
[7:50] <qmr> Wendell_: nfi. tweet it to carmack?
[7:50] <qmr> and of course google 'raspberry pi occulus rift' and look through the first few pages of results if you have not already
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[7:51] <Wendell_> I don't think anyone else has gotten this far, working with the rift
[7:51] <Wendell_> that's why I came here
[7:51] <Wendell_> What might be causing the striping though?
[7:51] <Wendell_> bad pixel frequency?
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[7:53] <qmr> no idea off the top of my head. not familiar with rift at all
[7:53] <Wendell_> but it's not a rift thing
[7:53] <qmr> closest thing I have is a cardboard vr headset for phones
[7:54] <Wendell_> sure I'm using a rift but it's a display drivers thing
[7:54] <qmr> how is it connected? hdmi?
[7:54] <Wendell_> yeah
[7:54] <qmr> tried other resolutions?
[7:54] <Wendell_> this is the only resolution that works
[7:54] <Wendell_> 1080x1920
[7:54] <SirLagz> Wendell_: looks trippy
[7:55] <Wendell_> SirLagz: it does, doesn't it
[7:55] <Wendell_> it twitches a little, too
[7:59] <qmr> I was ... wondering about rift / headsets the other day
[7:59] <Wendell_> join us over on #oculus
[7:59] <Wendell_> we're a friendly bunch :D
[7:59] <qmr> like ... am I going to buy another array of monitors in a few years, or a headset? couldn't one have ... quite a lot of virtual monitors in a headset?
[8:00] <Wendell_> you could have virtual monitors in your headset, yeah
[8:00] <Wendell_> with the current state of the rift, though, it's not so recommended
[8:00] <qmr> I made a $7 headtracker for flight sim stuff. was thinking maybe a headset would be more better. idk
[8:00] <qmr> yea.. isn't it like .. HD on each eye? or half of 1080p?
[8:01] <Wendell_> if memory serves
[8:01] <Wendell_> DK2 is 960x1080 per eye
[8:01] <Wendell_> yep
[8:01] <qmr> so not bad, but not great
[8:01] <Wendell_> yeah
[8:01] <Wendell_> and remember, it's a dev kit
[8:01] <Wendell_> CV1 will be better
[8:01] <Wendell_> CV1 is the first consumer version
[8:02] <Wendell_> but even though it's not great, it's still fantastic
[8:02] <qmr> in my cardboard.. my S3 works OK with it. but pixels are effing huge. unfortunately my S4 is like .. a little too large or something. I can't focus right on the S4
[8:02] <Wendell_> it's high quality
[8:02] <Wendell_> Yeah
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[8:02] <qmr> have you tried google cardboard? It's a cute demo
[8:02] <Wendell_> I haven't, no
[8:03] <Wendell_> The s3's pixel density is 306ppi while the Note 3 (the panel in the DK2)'s density is 388ppi
[8:04] <Wendell_> you can see pixels in the DK2, but they're a lot less prevalent than the DK1
[8:04] <Wendell_> and you only really see them if you focus on them
[8:04] <qmr> they were most apparent in teh main screen where you choose the demo to look at. less so in different things
[8:05] <Wendell_> what are you referring to?
[8:05] <qmr> S3 in cardboard
[8:05] <Wendell_> yeh
[8:05] <Wendell_> yeah*
[8:07] <qmr> http://www.oculusvrnews.com/oculus-plans-to-sell-consumer-rift-at-lowest-cost-possible/ I like that, if it is really true. like, I like technology, I like cheap and affordable technology more
[8:07] <Wendell_> Well yeah
[8:07] <Wendell_> I'd believe if
[8:07] <Wendell_> it*
[8:07] <Wendell_> 350 is a really good price for the dev kits
[8:08] <TwystNeko> argh.
[8:08] <qmr> what have you been doing with yours?
[8:08] <Wendell_> gaming, mostly
[8:08] <Wendell_> and development
[8:08] <Wendell_> this project with the Pi is my main focus
[8:09] <TwystNeko> I tried to get uPNP working for octoprint, and it no longer works. Man, I hate outdated guides. >_<
[8:09] <Wendell_> outdated guides are the worst :c
[8:10] <qmr> look at more guides, man pages, etc. try to understand the plumbing a bit
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[8:11] <Wendell_> yeah
[8:11] <TwystNeko> there are no other guides. this is all on the official octoprint site.
[8:11] <Wendell_> well then
[8:11] <Wendell_> use the man pages?
[8:11] <Wendell_> use the docs
[8:12] <TwystNeko> ah, there's an octoprint channel, I'll wander into that, might get more specific help. :D
[8:12] <Wendell_> :D
[8:14] <qmr> TwystNeko: what printer are you using btw? I will get one soon-ish. thinking about peachy printer
[8:14] <TwystNeko> a Velleman K8200 - it's a kit, and very moddable.
[8:14] <Wendell_> that's not bad for it's price
[8:14] <Wendell_> i wrote that worng
[8:14] <Wendell_> wrong*
[8:15] <Wendell_> it seems awesome is what I meant to say :D
[8:16] <TwystNeko> and once you get it tuned, it turns out pretty good prints.
[8:16] <Wendell_> :D
[8:16] <Wendell_> how hard is tuning
[8:16] <Wendell_> and holy crap the electronics store literally 20 minutes away sells them :D
[8:17] <TwystNeko> not hard, if you follow steps. Also join #reprap to get help.
[8:17] <Wendell_> sweet :D
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[8:22] <qmr> excited for peachy since it's $100 and seems to make okay-ish prints
[8:23] <Wendell_> oh shit, really?
[8:23] <Wendell_> also, okayish?
[8:24] <qmr> take a look at their site for update videos and demo objects. they were getting some artifact holes for awhile, but I think they've fixed that
[8:24] <TwystNeko> it's a resin printer, which has some caveats
[8:25] <Wendell_> ohh
[8:25] <TwystNeko> 1) Always leave a hole in any models for drainage
[8:26] <qmr> Go on ...
[8:27] <TwystNeko> 2) the Peachy uses 16 (or 24) bit audio for control, which means it's fairly low bitrate for detail. Could be problematic.
[8:27] <qmr> All I know about 3D printers is that Bre Pettis is a prick
[8:27] <Wendell_> audio...
[8:27] <Wendell_> xD
[8:27] <TwystNeko> yes, he is. Let's patent freely offered models!
[8:27] <Wendell_> ugh
[8:28] <qmr> did you watch the 3d printer documentary? comes across as a total toolbox :\
[8:28] <qmr> TwystNeko: does the super high res on z make up for that?
[8:28] <TwystNeko> not really
[8:29] <TwystNeko> for $100, it's amazing.
[8:29] <TwystNeko> Compared to a $3000 resin printer? it's a toy.
[8:30] <Wendell_> i'd like a 100 ABS printer, though
[8:30] <TwystNeko> build one
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[8:30] <qmr> heh, makerbot 2.2 on glassdoor. almost as bad as my last employer. *ba dum psh*
[8:30] <qmr> 2.2 for makerbot, that is
[8:31] <TwystNeko> once you understand the concept, and know how to source stuff, it's not that daunting
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[8:32] <qmr> aliexpress? :P
[8:33] <qmr> I would want it for prototyping, and printing odds and ends. so crude would probably be OK
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[8:48] <TwystNeko> hmm. You know what would be cool? Getting my
[8:48] <TwystNeko> erk
[8:48] <TwystNeko> getting my arduino TFT to work with the raspi
[8:49] <Wendell_> simple
[8:49] <Wendell_> arduino serial + raspi serial out
[8:49] <Wendell_> :D
[8:49] <TwystNeko> it's actually SPI
[8:50] <Wendell_> no I mean
[8:50] <Wendell_> the arduino has a serial library
[8:50] <Wendell_> so you could listen for serial input on the arduino side
[8:50] <Wendell_> and send serial output from the pi to the arduino
[8:50] <TwystNeko> no kidding.
[8:50] <TwystNeko> kind of missing the point. :D
[8:50] <Wendell_> I guess so
[8:51] <TwystNeko> I have the pinout, it uses SPI, it should be possible if I wire it correctly
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[8:51] <Wendell_> OH
[8:51] <Wendell_> you want to use it as a monitor
[8:51] <TwystNeko> not so much
[8:52] <Wendell_> no?
[8:52] <TwystNeko> as a display, yes, but not a monitor. dang thing is only 320x240
[8:52] <Wendell_> yes yes
[8:52] <Wendell_> my apologies for the misuse of terminology :P
[8:52] <Wendell_> and complete whoosh :D
[8:52] <Wendell_> sounds like a good idea though
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[10:04] <MACscr> ive been dong some research and I am a little confused. Does the pi have built in HDMI-CEC support without the need of any additional hardware?
[10:05] <qmr> Yes, to the best of my knowledge.
[10:06] <qmr> Every time I boot kodi flashes a little thing about CEC or CLEC or something being updated. but my tv does not support it, or at least this firmware of my tv does not :(
[10:06] <MACscr> my tv doesnt support it either and its a 2014 model. Crazy
[10:06] <MACscr> but my soundbar does
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[10:10] <qmr> weird
[10:10] <qmr> what compelled you to buy a sound bar?
[10:14] <MACscr> horrible quality sound from speakers on a 60 inch tv
[10:14] <MACscr> sound on my 32 inch lg was better than my samsung plasma 60 inch i bought 2 months ago
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[10:26] <qmr> mmm
[10:27] <qmr> how do you get a 60" tv with crappy speakers? was it a good deal otherwise?
[10:27] <MACscr> its an amazing tv. Its also quote common for TV speakers to be pretty bad in comparison to a soundbar
[10:27] <qmr> we have .. small ish. 32 maybe. meh speakers. hook up 2.1 from computer for nicer sound sometimes
[10:28] <qmr> yea, idea of sound bar just seems .. odd to me I guess
[10:28] <MACscr> its pretty standard
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[10:28] <MACscr> most people with a tv larger than 50 inches use a soundbar or other speaker setup with their tv
[10:28] <qmr> the prices look similar to an entry level surround sound
[10:29] <qmr> I guess a bar is a lot less setup work though
[10:29] <MACscr> and takes up a lot less room
[10:30] <qmr> is yours 1080 or 4k?
[10:30] <MACscr> 1080, its a plasma.
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[10:30] <MACscr> 4k's are to expensive if you want decent speed
[10:31] <MACscr> of course they have slower ones that are horrible for action/sports
[10:31] <qmr> what does plasma do better than lcd?
[10:32] <MACscr> at those sizes, its important to have higher refresh rates. LCD/LED is typically 60 to 240hz. Plasma is 600
[10:32] <qmr> our tv is only 720p, so will probably replace it some time in the near future
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[10:34] <qmr> hah, like 10s after reading your last line I read something on reddit which is sort of apropos re refresh rate
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[11:49] <rymate1234> hey, does the raspberry pi epiphany browser work over x11 forwarding?
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[12:02] <ShorTie> read this maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/39544
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[12:33] <rymate1234> ShorTie: well forwarding lxsession fixed it
[12:34] <rymate1234> I guess that mde dbus work?
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[12:56] <ShorTie> rymate1234, got me, just did some googling for you, i most likely would just use x11vnc .. :/~
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[13:08] <knob> Good morning all =)
[13:08] <qmr> hiya
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[13:10] <knob> hey qmr
[13:10] <knob> How you doing?
[13:11] <qmr> I am ok. going to bed soon. how about you?
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[13:14] <knob> Starting the day over here qmr !
[13:14] <knob> So... it's already 2015 where you are at?!
[13:16] <qmr> nah, just up all night hacking. 716 here
[13:17] <ShorTie> ah, good old EST
[13:18] <qmr> maybe I should go watch the ball drop. I feel it would be ... crowded though
[13:19] <Armand> There's something a bit.... off... about watching balls drop, I think.
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[13:37] <Celerity> This might be a completely ridiculous question, but is there a problem if I try to power the RPi via a powered USB hub?
[13:37] <Armand> Should work
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[13:38] <Celerity> hmm
[13:38] <Celerity> so if I use one port to power it, I can still use the other ports to connect peripherals right?
[13:39] <Armand> Don't see why not.
[13:39] <Celerity> ok, I'm just a scared if I'd blow it up or something
[13:39] <Armand> Nah.. USB hubs are reasonably solid. :P
[13:40] <Encrypt> Celerity, That's what I have done :]
[13:40] <Celerity> so I can use just one power adapter instead of 2
[13:40] <Encrypt> And this way, you only have one power converter which is great
[13:40] <Celerity> Encrypt: that's awesome then.
[13:40] <Celerity> Brilliant.
[13:40] <Encrypt> Celerity, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/RPi.jpg
[13:40] <Encrypt> Mine is even a Hard Drive dock with included USB Hub
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[13:41] <Celerity> sweet
[13:41] <Celerity> That grey wire looks like an ethernet port
[13:41] <Celerity> Encrypt: It doesn't seem to me that you've connected the USB hub back to the RPi, am I correct?
[13:42] <Encrypt> Actually, on the right of the HDD Dock, you can see a dark wire
[13:42] <Encrypt> This wire is connected to the Pi to power it
[13:42] <Celerity> yes
[13:42] <Celerity> I can see that.
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[13:43] <Celerity> but the hdd is not usb accessible via the Rpi
[13:43] <Encrypt> And on the back of the HDD Dock, there is another USB wire which is connected to one of the Pi USB ports
[13:43] <Celerity> awesome
[13:43] <Encrypt> (But you can"t see it on this photo)
[13:43] <Celerity> oh ok
[13:44] <Celerity> so that's good then, I'll shop around for a powered dock instead of an adapter + hub anyway
[13:44] <Celerity> 3 peripherals are more than enough for me
[13:44] <Celerity> (My TV supports CEC so I actually only need one USB HDD for now)
[13:44] <Celerity> thanks Encrypt!
[13:44] <Encrypt> You're welcome :)
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[13:49] <jar3k> Hey!
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[14:51] <mrmoney2012> hi all -i’ve got a decent audio setup with a B+ running MPD - audio out to RCA plugs into an amp and speakers… thing is - i get background noise a bit - any tips ?
[14:51] <mrmoney2012> i think it’s the balanace between alsa audio volume and amp volume but i can’t quite seem to find a great setting
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[15:09] <sirfancy> Hey guys, I'm back. Still deciding if I should get the iPico.
[15:09] <Armand> Projector ?
[15:10] <sirfancy> To the uninitiated, I want to reverse engineer this somehow to work with the RPi: http://www.amazon.com/General-PJ205-Handheld-Personal-Projector/dp/B008OPTQ76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420034968&sr=8-1&keywords=ipico
[15:10] <sirfancy> Armand: Yup
[15:10] <Armand> Looking now. :)
[15:10] <Armand> iProduct only?? !!
[15:11] <Armand> Weaksauce. :/
[15:11] <sirfancy> Yep. That's why I want to see if I can get it to work with the RPi. It's so cheap :O
[15:12] <iamaustin> http://www.amazon.com/UC28-Projector-Cinema-Theater-Laptop/dp/B00EY24CCC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420035119&sr=8-1&keywords=mini+hdmi+projector
[15:12] <iamaustin> that ones 10 more, has hdmi
[15:12] <iamaustin> is #1 best seller
[15:12] <Armand> O_O
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[15:12] <Armand> Same it's such a low res. :(
[15:12] <iamaustin> but it may not operate off of batteries
[15:12] <sirfancy> It needs to be smaller unfortunately.
[15:12] <Armand> Shame*
[15:13] <iamaustin> let me ask you, do you think you could get an iproduct dock adapter to vga or hdmi
[15:13] <iamaustin> and then use the hdmi from the pi?
[15:14] <sirfancy> That's the issue, I think they *might* use a proprietary encoding because you need a certain app to use it. I might have to crack it open for that (which I have no problem doing).
[15:14] <iamaustin> ah, you have to use a certain app to project images?
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[15:16] <sirfancy> Yeah. Hopefully it's just a bridge to enable the HDMI out.
[15:16] <sirfancy> Or VGA
[15:16] <iamaustin> with a bunch of copyright so that you cant send hbo-go
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[15:20] <Armand> I do want a projector, but no point just yet.
[15:23] <Bilby> good morning humans and touring-complete software
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[15:26] <knob> Bilby, hey yah o/
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[15:28] <Bilby> Got up early today to drop off a rental car, and I have to work 10 hours today. Happy new year X|
[15:36] <giddles> hello sir and madame. i ordered yesterday my first pi b+. im a fatal noob and want to ask if i could install some os over ethernet from a windows machine?
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[15:44] <DoctorD90> giddles: if you say "total noob" do not mind to install anything from ethernet :) just read guide on rpi site on how install os on sd :)
[15:45] <DoctorD90> for all, we are here :)
[15:45] <giddles> i buyed an sd card with preinstalled os
[15:46] <giddles> but after frist install ill have to see how to get the data on it
[15:46] <DoctorD90> ok, you are on the rigth way ;)
[15:46] <DoctorD90> what data?
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[15:47] <giddles> if i wanna change the raspi os
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[15:48] <DoctorD90> you have 2choices:
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[15:49] <DoctorD90> 1.download 1 of yet compiled os available on main page of rpi site(or any other yet prepared os for arm/rpi system)
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[15:50] <DoctorD90> 2. (expert) get a os and compile it for arm systems.
[15:50] <giddles> hmk ok
[15:50] <DoctorD90> suggest: use 1st option
[15:50] <giddles> i better buy some literature ;)
[15:50] <DoctorD90> not nees to buy anything :)
[15:50] <DoctorD90> just follow guide on rpi site :)
[15:50] <DoctorD90> is all explained very well :)
[15:51] <giddles> k thanks
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[15:53] <DoctorD90> you are welcome
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[16:00] <Bilby> crud gotta bounce to the VPN. brb
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[16:14] <Bilby> hmm. that didn't work as well as I thought
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[17:36] <ClepCidre> Hi
[17:36] <ClepCidre> How are you
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[17:38] <ClepCidre> i seen lot sof topic everywhere to remote acess the pi but i d like to do the opposit! use the pi to remot my laptop is possible easy and not to laggy
[17:38] <ClepCidre> ?
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[17:43] <DoctorD90> ClepCidre: yes
[17:43] <DoctorD90> install vnc and do that :)
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[17:44] <ClepCidre> ok
[17:45] <ClepCidre> i have tighvnc on my pi and on the laptop is it enoughµ
[17:45] <DoctorD90> yes
[17:45] <DoctorD90> ClepCidre: is the same
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[17:46] <DoctorD90> instal server version on your laptot and use client on your rpi :)
[17:46] <ClepCidre> thank you doctor
[17:46] <ClepCidre> but i must be in X11 i guess
[17:46] <ClepCidre> in gui graphic
[17:46] <ClepCidre> interface
[17:46] <DoctorD90> yes
[17:46] <DoctorD90> for not x11 just use openssh :)
[17:47] <Jckf> Graphical User Interface graphic interface
[17:47] <Jckf> It's a thing
[17:47] <DoctorD90> install openssh server and connect your laptot trougth ssh
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[17:50] <ClepCidre> what is openssh
[17:50] <Armand> http://www.openssh.com/
[17:50] <Armand> �_�
[17:51] <ClepCidre> so is it same to install tightvnc or use openssh
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[17:51] <ClepCidre> anyway thank you all for your help i ll google it a little bit and try to do the rest
[17:51] <ClepCidre> you already help me
[17:51] <ClepCidre> :D
[17:51] <ClepCidre> Happy St sylvestre
[17:51] <sirfancy> Still on the search for a pico projector.
[17:52] <sirfancy> Why oh why must they be so pricey :(
[17:52] <ClepCidre> lol
[17:52] <Armand> sirfancy, have you seen any that support a decent res (NOT 320x200) ?
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[18:05] <samB__> I have the option of getting a standard usb cable or something called ‘noodle’ cable which just looks thinner does it make a difference which I pick?
[18:06] <ShorTie> for the micro-usb power cable ??
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[18:07] <samB__> Hey ShorTie, yes I think so
[18:07] <ShorTie> don't go cheap on it, but the best you can
[18:08] <ShorTie> cheap 1's can cause problems
[18:10] <samB__> Thank ShorTie I’ll take another look in that case
[18:11] <ShorTie> you want the biggest wire size (awg) you can find
[18:13] <samB__> So its probably best to avoid the ‘noodle’ style cable?
[18:14] <Jckf> Is there anything positive associated with the word "noodle" ever? =P
[18:14] <ShorTie> sorry, don't know what a noodle cable is
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[18:15] <Armand> flat
[18:15] <samB__> I never heard of them either but they look like this: http://electronics.buysku.com/Electronics-image/2012-12/1M-Flat-Noodle-Style-8-pin-USB-Sync-Data-Charging-Cable-for-iPhone-5-iPad-mini-iPad-4-White-6349136191754337501.JPG
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[18:15] <ApolloJustice> Jckf, stir-fried noodles
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[18:16] <ShorTie> other then a picture of it being flat, that doesn't tell me much about it
[18:16] <ShorTie> does it list the wire size any where ??
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[18:17] <abnormal> I'd use 12 Ga wire
[18:17] <samB__> It didn’t in the store but I’ll take a look online and see what I can find
[18:18] <ShorTie> wouldn't hurt abnormal
[18:18] <abnormal> lol
[18:18] <ShorTie> no voltage lose thier at least
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[18:19] <abnormal> no, true.
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[18:20] <samB__> I couldn’t find any from that store but another place online has a similar cable with 26 AWG power wires, 28 AWG data wires
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[18:22] <ShorTie> if it is not specifically listed, i wouldn't assume anything
[18:22] <ShorTie> you know what doing that does, lol.
[18:22] <samB__> Good point ShorTie I’m probably over analysing things anyway :)
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[18:29] <noodle> .-.
[18:29] <noodle> Jckf: samB__ ShorTie
[18:29] <noodle> im not a cable
[18:29] <ShorTie> Laughs Out Loud
[18:29] <samB__> hehe you must have got pinged a lot there :)
[18:29] <noodle> I get pinged a lot everywhere on freenode, lol
[18:29] <noodle> #dogecoin mostly
[18:29] <noodle> they seem to like their noodles
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[18:32] <Armand> That better, noodle ? ^_^
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[18:34] <abnormal> I love noodles... with chicken, mayonase, brocolli, etc...
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[18:36] <ShorTie> chicken is good for ya, Gotta eat more chicken
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[18:43] <TheNumb> ShorTie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K_D7kmiiog
[18:45] <ShorTie> sorry, youtube is broke on this stupid pc .. :/~
[18:46] <noodle> lol
[18:47] <abnormal> I don't think the PC is stupid... maybe the operator oops something?
[18:47] * ShorTie concours
[18:48] <ShorTie> more like the operator
[18:49] <abnormal> well, you toobe is an app... so I think something somewhere a data input got awry....
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[18:50] <ShorTie> sumfin with firefox, says error occured, try back later
[18:51] <abnormal> lol... try Chrome
[18:51] <ShorTie> doesn't work in IE either
[18:53] <ShorTie> no speakers either, so it would be like i was back in the rooring 20's anyways
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[18:54] <abnormal> why in the world you use IE? I'd shoot that app...
[18:55] <ShorTie> i don't, i just tried it real fast to see
[18:55] <ozzzy> nothing wrong with IE
[18:56] <abnormal> ? are u sic?
[18:57] <ozzzy> nope... IE works just fine
[18:58] <abnormal> I see... I used to use it.. only at work now... now I use FF at home and Barnes & Nobles... I try to avoid it...
[18:59] <ozzzy> I use it on the laptop and netbook [shrug]
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[19:00] <abnormal> at work I have no choice... but at home is all FF... and on my winblows lappy I use Chrome....
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[19:10] <jshearer> Has anyone done wireshark stuff on the rpi? I've got an Alfa AWUS036H connected to a powered USB hub, and I'm getting some really weird capture data. On the rpi, over a period of one minute, with my phone streaming youtube, I managed to capture about 200 packets. When the same card, connected through the same hub is connected to my laptop and I run wireshark, I captured almost 10,000 packets. Does anybody have any idea why?
[19:10] <jshearer> Is the rpi just not fast enough, somehow?
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[19:22] <Armand> Just purchased 2 domains, comparethearmkit.com & .net ^_^
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[20:33] <jjido> Where is all the software ? There used to be a mish-mash of apps in the Other menu, how to access them? And where's the IRC client ?
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[20:37] <Armand> jjido, some context might be useful.
[20:38] <jjido> Armand I just updated my system
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[21:10] <ApolloJustice_> Hello, I have a problem with my WiFi dongle, it works for about 30 seconds after boot and then drops connection and i can't get it back up with sudo ifup wlan0, this happens with both powered and unpowered USB.
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[21:11] <ApolloJustice_> i'm using rtl8192cu driver for it
[21:12] <Froolap> which os are ya running?
[21:12] <ApolloJustice_> Raspbian
[21:13] <Froolap> eek, I don't know if that has a new enough version of network manager, but you can try this
[21:13] <Froolap> nmcli con show
[21:13] <ApolloJustice_> i wasn't using X so i just edited /etc/network/interfaces directly
[21:14] <Froolap> that should give you a listing of configured connections, then nmcli con up (configured connection)
[21:14] <ApolloJustice_> command not found
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[21:15] <Froolap> nmcli con show and iwconfig will give you the information that you need. it may be that power management is cutting power to the wifi dongle.
[21:15] <Froolap> yeah, debian's version of network manager is 2 years out of date.
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[21:17] <ApolloJustice_> oh, I already disabled power management directly from the 8192cu driver
[21:17] <Froolap> I tried running debian for a while on my desktop but inability to change wireless network from command line made me switch back to fedora/pidora
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[21:21] <Froolap> The problem I'm getting is that when running X I keep getting prompted to give the network key for it o reconnect, which it would do automatically if x wasn't running.
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[21:23] <jjido> What could a small rectangular widget with 4 pins and marked DL2 (there's also DL1 and DL3) be on a circuit board?
[21:24] <jjido> Seems to be connected to the DP and DM pins of the USB port
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[21:42] <ApolloJustice> got it working, if anyone has problems with a RT8192-based WiFi dongle on Debian, add this to your /etc/modprobe.d/8192cu.conf: options 8192cu rtw_power_mgnt=0 rtw_enusbss=1 rtw_ips_mode=1
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[21:44] <abnormal> cool thank you for sharing it... suggest to go to rpi forum and do same... thank you...
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[22:26] <acidjazz> hey everyone s. so is it true about the raspberry pi and the usb controller being minimal? as in I cant hook up more than 2 working devices? even on the b+
[22:28] <abnormal> you can hook as many USB to pi as you like, one suggestion is always use a POWERED USB hub. period.
[22:28] <acidjazz> thats power
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[22:28] <acidjazz> i have to use that
[22:28] <abnormal> yes
[22:28] <abnormal> I would
[22:28] <acidjazz> thats a HAVE to
[22:28] <acidjazz> theres a bigger issue
[22:28] <acidjazz> them all working...
[22:29] <ShorTie> it's not the # of devices, it's the current draw of the devices
[22:29] <abnormal> depends on the pi's PSU
[22:29] <acidjazz> no that's power
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[22:29] <acidjazz> that again is not what im talking about.. i have 5 different usb powered hubs i am trying
[22:29] <acidjazz> thats still not the issue
[22:29] <acidjazz> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3070945&cid=41120017
[22:29] <ShorTie> and on your B+, did you do the usb current hack ??
[22:29] <abnormal> make sure the ones you use are only 5V!!!!!
[22:30] <acidjazz> ShorTie: w/ and w/out
[22:30] <abnormal> some of them have 7.5V, don't use these...
[22:30] <acidjazz> 2 netis dual band adapters and a 3g modem adapter
[22:31] <acidjazz> if i use one wifi adapter hte other shuts down
[22:31] <acidjazz> if u use 1 and then turn on the modem the other shuts down
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[22:31] <ozzzy_> acidjazz, that has nothing to do with the B+
[22:32] <ShorTie> how big is your power supply, it only really makes a difference if it is => 2amps
[22:32] <acidjazz> what does it have to do w/ then if they are getting sufficient power from a well made hub
[22:32] <acidjazz> i have a 5v hub
[22:32] <acidjazz> a 12v
[22:32] <acidjazz> i bought a bunch
[22:32] <acidjazz> i tried pluggin 0 devices in the pi
[22:32] <acidjazz> plugging 1
[22:32] <acidjazz> etc
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[22:33] <acidjazz> i guess ill have to compile an example
[22:33] <acidjazz> itll take me a while
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[22:35] <acidjazz> ozzzy_ / ShorTie : have you seen this issue in general before w/ multiple usb devices?
[22:36] <acidjazz> like ok one simple thing I can dpulicate
[22:36] <DMackey> Question, I have a 16GB SD Card and I want to make a dd images of it. Whats the command for doing that? RPi/Linux Noobs here.
[22:36] <acidjazz> is if I give my pi two wifi adapters and connect to one via wifi then put the other adapter into monitor mode and scan data my wifi connection dies, and the cpu didnt really spike
[22:37] <acidjazz> DMackey: depends on os/etc but google that and its easy to figure out.. you mainly want to specify if and of, one being the device the other being the image file
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[22:37] <ShorTie> i plg a keyboard, mouse and hdd into my B+ and they all work fine .. :/~
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[22:37] <jshearer> Anybody have any experience using wireshark on the rpi?
[22:38] <jshearer> I seem to only be able to capture about 1/10 of the packets I can on my regular computer
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[22:39] <ozzzy_> acidjazz, I have a B and it doesn't have any USB issues other than the occassional reset on plugging things in
[22:39] <acidjazz> ozzzy_: ever use 3+ devices?
[22:39] <acidjazz> ozzzy_: ideally doy ou think I could run two wifi adapters, a 3g modem, and a bluetooth adapter all at once?
[22:39] <ozzzy_> if I plug things into a hub I have no issues at all
[22:39] <jshearer> I have used 4 wifi cards, on a powered usb hub. The adapters all work fine, except that monitor mode seems to be somewhat broken
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[23:00] <Wendell_> happy new years, everyone
[23:00] <DMackey> Same to you sir
[23:00] <Wendell_> thank you
[23:00] <Wendell_> My pi is still giving me trouble :D
[23:00] <Wendell_> here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/pushbullet-uploads/ujwpxBW0HzU-3GtimzyMX92I6910LJwx3exwYVB8QGDs/IMG_20141229_171303.jpg
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[23:09] <acidjazz> ok i hooked up two netowrk adapters
[23:09] <acidjazz> connected through one
[23:10] <acidjazz> other is monitoring
[23:10] <acidjazz> i hooked up a usb dongle that 100% works alone w/ the pi
[23:10] <acidjazz> i get this
[23:10] <acidjazz> https://gist.github.com/acidjazz/0c1bba59f20909a16d90
[23:11] <jshearer> acidjazz, are you trying to get monitor mode working on the pi too ?
[23:11] <acidjazz> jshearer: no that is finally solved
[23:11] <acidjazz> jshearer: thats a whooole other sh*tshow that sucked
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[23:12] <jshearer> Would you happen to be able to help me?
[23:12] <acidjazz> jshearer: im having a usb device limit issue
[23:12] <acidjazz> jshearer: whats your adapter
[23:12] <jshearer> Interesting. I've got 5 devices hooked up via a powered hub no problem
[23:12] <jshearer> alfa awus036h
[23:12] <acidjazz> alfa ok good
[23:12] <acidjazz> so try this
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[23:12] <acidjazz> sudo ifconfig $1 down; sudo iwconfig $1 mode monitor
[23:12] <acidjazz> you AHVE to run those at the exact same time
[23:13] <Wendell_> or
[23:13] <acidjazz> $1 being wlan0 or wlan1
[23:13] <Wendell_> you could do airmon-ng
[23:13] <acidjazz> Wendell_: no kismet is better
[23:13] <acidjazz> but boht programs just do what im saying
[23:13] <Wendell_> airmon-ng puts an interface into monitor mode
[23:13] <jshearer> I tried with airmon-ng. The weird thing is that I only seem to be getting 1/10th of the packets that are actually on the air
[23:13] <acidjazz> so does kismet
[23:13] <acidjazz> and so does what im saying
[23:13] <Wendell_> mmk
[23:13] <acidjazz> airmon straight up will run that command or use iw to make a virtual interface
[23:14] <jshearer> If I monitor w/ my laptop, using same card and hub, I get 10x as many packets as I get using the pi
[23:14] <acidjazz> jshearer: yea i know your problem exactly
[23:14] <jshearer> acidjazz: Really! That's awesome, so I'm not going crazy
[23:14] <acidjazz> the pi is battling w/ monitor mode and services running etc
[23:14] <acidjazz> also some pi adapter drivers straight up dont go into monitor mode
[23:14] <acidjazz> like
[23:14] <acidjazz> dont support it
[23:14] <jshearer> Odd though, because it does capture some packets
[23:15] <jshearer> Just not nearly as many as I know are there
[23:15] <acidjazz> so its having issues switching channels
[23:15] <jshearer> Oooohhhh, so setting it to the correct channel might help?
[23:15] <acidjazz> you should also shutdown ifplugd and other network-related services
[23:15] <acidjazz> no
[23:15] <acidjazz> you wanna hop
[23:15] <acidjazz> constnatly
[23:15] <jshearer> Why? I know I want to listen to channel 6 only
[23:15] <acidjazz> other channels you get more data
[23:15] <acidjazz> did my command put your alfa into mon mode?
[23:16] <acidjazz> [Dec 31st 14, 10:15:55pm UTC] [REPORT] SUCCESS APS: 191 CLIENTS: 306
[23:16] <acidjazz> thats my pi right now
[23:16] <acidjazz> w/ a netis $15 dual band adapter
[23:16] <acidjazz> 191 access points 306 clients sniffed
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[23:16] <acidjazz> alfas are rad too though you sohuld see alot if theres alot around you
[23:17] <acidjazz> jshearer: shut down ifplugd then run my commmand and then run kismet giving it that as a capture device
[23:17] <acidjazz> basically like htis
[23:17] <jshearer> Alright. airmon-ng shows that ifplugd is one of the proceses that might be interfering with the interface
[23:17] <acidjazz> sudo ifconfig wlan1 down; sudo iwconfig wlan1 mode monitor; sudo kismet_server -c wlan1
[23:17] <acidjazz> yea
[23:17] <acidjazz> 1st off uninstall airmon-ng
[23:17] <acidjazz> its just a crappier sniffer
[23:18] <Wendell_> airmon isn't a sniffer?
[23:18] <acidjazz> kismet is way more update and way more intel
[23:18] <jshearer> Interesting
[23:18] <acidjazz> airmon is ok.. but kismet ive had way more success
[23:18] <jshearer> I'll install kismet. What does kismet_server do?
[23:18] <acidjazz> also $kismet in freenode is really helpful
[23:18] <acidjazz> the server does the sniffing
[23:18] <acidjazz> there is a client thats ncurses thats neat to use to see aps/clients
[23:19] <acidjazz> but i just use the server and parse the log file and put it in my db
[23:19] <acidjazz> s/$/#
[23:19] <jshearer> Huh. I'm actually just trying to get the card into a working monitor state, so I can sniff myself using python/scapy
[23:19] <jshearer> Will killing ifplugd stop the automatic ethernet connection config.?
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[23:21] <acidjazz> yea but your existing connections will be fine
[23:21] <acidjazz> oh ok well
[23:21] <acidjazz> just use my iwconfig line and then tell me what iwconfig output is
[23:21] <acidjazz> ifplugd will just auto-dhcp/bs new stuff
[23:21] <acidjazz> ifplugd will fight monitor mode though
[23:22] <jshearer> Interesting, okay I'm bringing it up now
[23:23] <acidjazz> wlan1 IEEE 802.11abgn Mode:Monitor Frequency:2.472 GHz Tx-Power=20 dBm
[23:23] <acidjazz> you see that your golden
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[23:29] <jshearer> So it put it in monitor mode, acidjazz
[23:29] <acidjazz> there ya go dood
[23:29] <jshearer> Sorry my internet cut out there for a sec
[23:29] <acidjazz> you're set
[23:29] <acidjazz> what are you using for internet
[23:29] <jshearer> dsl. I had to switch to a different network
[23:29] <acidjazz> what about the pi
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[23:29] <acidjazz> connection to the pi
[23:29] <jshearer> over wifi
[23:29] <jshearer> another adapter
[23:29] <acidjazz> a 2nd adapter?
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[23:30] <acidjazz> ok so
[23:30] <acidjazz> ifplugd if running will sometimes bug out and mess w/ that
[23:30] <acidjazz> watch all your logs
[23:30] <acidjazz> like this
[23:30] <acidjazz> keep this open in a terminal
[23:30] <acidjazz> sudo tail -f /var/log/{messages,kernel,dmesg,syslog}
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[23:30] <acidjazz> whach what else is going on while you sniff
[23:30] <acidjazz> if you see services on your shit shut em down
[23:31] <jshearer> Interesting. If I kill ifplugd will it come back?
[23:31] <acidjazz> sudo service ifplugd stop
[23:31] <acidjazz> sudo service ifpludg start
[23:31] <acidjazz> sudo service ifpludg status
[23:31] <acidjazz> dont kill the processes
[23:31] <acidjazz> also use the init.d system
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[23:32] <jshearer> Okay. Should I set that (service ifplugd stop) in rc.local?
[23:32] <acidjazz> no
[23:32] <acidjazz> cuz you might need it to get connected
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[23:32] <acidjazz> if you're going over a wifi adapter
[23:32] <Foxhoundz> Hello RPI
[23:32] <acidjazz> ifplugd auto connects that
[23:32] <Foxhoundz> I need a suggestion
[23:33] <Foxhoundz> Is the RPI powerful enough to run a NAS?
[23:33] <acidjazz> yes by far
[23:33] <acidjazz> well.. one grey area is auto-sizing media
[23:33] <jshearer> Okay cool, but if I have a script to connect my adapter to the right network automatically, it shouldn't matter right?
[23:33] <acidjazz> server-side
[23:33] <acidjazz> jshearer: as long as that script doesnt require ifplugd
[23:33] <jshearer> Cool
[23:34] <acidjazz> jshearer: there is a sweeter way to not run ifplugd at start
[23:34] <acidjazz> jshearer: remmeber ifplugd is just not wifi too
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[23:35] <Foxhoundz> Netsplit!
[23:35] <Foxhoundz> acidjazz: another question
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[23:35] <acidjazz> jshearer: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ac1djazz/15537103474/ :)
[23:35] <acidjazz> jshearer: i would really suggest you use kismet and just parse the log file
[23:35] <jshearer> Right yeah. It would be nice to be able to plug in an ethernet cable and have it work
[23:35] <acidjazz> jshearer: im parsing the netXML output format its awesome
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[23:35] <jshearer> Can kismet handle multiple interfaces at once?
[23:35] <acidjazz> jshearer: hell yea!
[23:35] <jshearer> Niiiice
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[23:35] <Foxhoundz> Can I boot debian from a USB attached hard drive?
[23:35] <acidjazz> kismet can handle non-wifi devices
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[23:35] <acidjazz> im using kismet to sniff bluetooth as well
[23:35] <jshearer> I am highly intrigued
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[23:35] <acidjazz> you can setup as many devices and their type in the config
[23:35] <acidjazz> config*
[23:35] <acidjazz> jshearer: just make sure their power is not from teh pi
[23:35] <jshearer> Huh. That's really cool actually. I'll look into it
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[23:36] <jshearer> Yeah absolutely. I tried just one of these 1w alfa cards from the pi's own usb port. Didn't go well
[23:36] <acidjazz> alfas are beasts
[23:36] <acidjazz> i really like these netis jshearer
[23:36] <acidjazz> here
[23:36] <jshearer> Hell yeah. Up to 38dbm :D
[23:36] <jshearer> netis?
[23:36] <acidjazz> thats just antenna
[23:36] <jshearer> nono, 38dbm broadcast power
[23:37] <jshearer> unless I'm misremembering the unit's name
[23:37] <jshearer> dBm yeah
[23:37] <jshearer> Or maybe it's 30... anyway what is netis?
[23:37] <acidjazz> isnt that just by the antenna though
[23:37] <acidjazz> jshearer: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FG6YOYG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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[23:37] <acidjazz> $15
[23:37] <acidjazz> i broke one open
[23:37] <jshearer> Nope. Antenna is dbi I think. If you set your locale to bolivia, you can boost the tx-power from the cards by like 5x
[23:38] <acidjazz> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ac1djazz/15927920867/
[23:38] <acidjazz> one connector on each side
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[23:38] <acidjazz> jshearer: oh cool ok.. yea i dont muhc as much about that
[23:38] <acidjazz> jshearer: i just like $15 :)
[23:38] <jshearer> Nice that's awesome!
[23:39] <jshearer> So you've had the fewer-than-normal packets problem before and you solved it by stopping ifplugd?
[23:39] <acidjazz> barely any and yea
[23:39] <acidjazz> it couldnt channel switch
[23:39] <acidjazz> i think that or something it was using was battling w/ kismet
[23:39] <acidjazz> so like
[23:39] <acidjazz> you see how those iwconfig lines are at once
[23:40] <acidjazz> if you down wlan0
[23:40] <acidjazz> ifplugd brings it back up
[23:40] <acidjazz> and prevents monitor mode
[23:40] <jshearer> riiight that makes sense
[23:40] <jshearer> interesting
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[23:40] <acidjazz> so if you wait 0.1s it wont work
[23:40] <acidjazz> fucking annoying
[23:40] <acidjazz> just tail all the things
[23:40] <acidjazz> like that command i gave you
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[23:40] <jshearer> Right
[23:40] <jshearer> Okay, thanks a lot man
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[23:43] <checkit> Hey guys... Anyone ever try to throw ESX or someother virtualization on a Pi and slave two others to combine resources and make more powerful?
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[23:43] <acidjazz> checkit: explain
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[23:43] <acidjazz> a vm on a pi itself?
[23:44] <qmr> checkit: To the best of my knowledge that software is not released for ARM CPU architecture.
[23:46] <checkit> Kinda like VPS or something of the like with a server stack slaved to an ESX box that you can create virtual machines on. Essentially I want to combine three Pi's to make one decent system that will ultimately act as my media server without chaining
[23:46] <checkit> Just thought it would be a fun project but looking for the starting poing (if there is one)
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[23:49] <acidjazz> checkit: why 3.. and why 3 w/out chaining
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[23:50] <acidjazz> i was also thinking of a 2pi system
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[23:50] <checkit> 3 is an aribtrary number representing how many Pi's it would take to make an ideal light-weight, fast, low power consumption media server.
[23:51] <acidjazz> 1 seems to suffice for most people
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[23:51] <acidjazz> it plays 1080p just fine right
[23:51] <acidjazz> flawlessly
[23:51] <ozzzy_> checkit, why would you need more than one
[23:52] <checkit> It's going to be a media server drawing from and writing to a NAS. Not connected to a TV with Plex or XBMC or seomthing.
[23:53] <checkit> One alone will get too bogged down to funciton as a media server having multiple tasks...
[23:53] <checkit> Example: Pulling down torrents, converting and sorting them then storing them externally.
[23:54] <acidjazz> jshearer: can you explain the tx-power to me
[23:54] <acidjazz> jshearer: what does boosting it do
[23:54] <acidjazz> checkit: actually i doub thtat
[23:54] <acidjazz> checkit: like using sabnzbd?
[23:55] <checkit> There's one piece of the "Pi" acidjazz :)
[23:55] <acidjazz> checkit: you shoudl test it 1st.. youd be surprised w/ a b+
[23:55] <checkit> Several other components will come into play as well though.
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[23:55] <jshearer> acidjazz: tx-power is transmit power. normally its set to 20, which is the default. But the alfa driver lets you go up to 30 (I think. Might be 38).
[23:56] <checkit> More importantly than determing whether or not this is absolutely necessary is my curiosity to know how it can be done.
[23:56] <jshearer> acisjazz: As dbm is exponential, 20 to 30 is a big jump. Do this
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[23:57] <acidjazz> jshearer: does that help w/ sniffing?
[23:57] <jshearer> acidjazz: sudo ifconfig wlanx down; sudo iw reg set BO; sudo iwconfig wlanx txpower 30; sudo ifconwig wlanx up
[23:57] <acidjazz> checkit: would you say these components are various
[23:57] <acidjazz> jshearer: wlan1 IEEE 802.11abgn Mode:Monitor Frequency:5.22 GHz Tx-Power=20 dBm
[23:57] <acidjazz> jshearer: dood run kismet on your alfa
[23:57] <checkit> acidjazz: I don't think I fully understand that question.
[23:57] <acidjazz> jshearer: then do a watch -n 1 iwconfig
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[23:58] <acidjazz> jshearer: crazy to watch the freq/channel swap so much
[23:58] <jshearer> acidjazz: Unsure. I think it just increases the transmit power, so if you're transmitting stuff (man in the middle, etc.) it might help
[23:58] <acidjazz> jshearer: oh ok cool, ye adon tneed that
[23:58] <acidjazz> jshearer: im sending data via 3g
[23:58] <acidjazz> gsm
[23:58] <jshearer> acidjazz: I looked at kismet, it seems kind of out of date. Last update was 10 month ago?
[23:58] <acidjazz> jshearer: cant rely on internet for htis product
[23:58] <acidjazz> jshearer: haha no
[23:59] <jshearer> acidjazz: Where can I get the up to date source?
[23:59] <rigid> Frohes neues Jahr!
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