#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-01-02

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[0:16] <Herb_Tarlek> TIL you really can run RDP on a Pi.
[0:16] <Wendell_> :D
[0:16] <Wendell_> I use it all the time
[0:17] <Herb_Tarlek> I thought it was a giant pain to get working. In reality it's simple.
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[0:38] <luaa> can someone help me with the last step http://www.extragsm.com/blog/2014/12/03/connect-esp8266-to-raspberry-pi/
[0:38] <luaa> "If everything went good you should see the minicom serial interface. Try to write AT+RST and hit Enter. If it will print some info it means that you are ready to go."
[0:39] <luaa> I see minicom, but when I typ I cant see any output
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[0:44] <abnormal> shiftplusone, can u help this person?
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[0:51] <luaa> shiftplusone: please
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[1:05] <abnormal> well let's see.... how about ShorTie .... can you help luaa ?
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[2:49] <ParkerR> Anyone know if the Atrix lapdock display is a common connector? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/w/w_32CcuqUFUq.jpg
[2:49] <dan2k3k4> is it possible to 'check if TV is on' via HDMI CEC?
[2:50] <exobuzz> hi ParkerR
[2:50] <dan2k3k4> I know the Pi can turn on the TV
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[2:50] <ParkerR> exobuzz: Oh hey long time no see
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[2:59] <dan2k3k4> cool, turned off TV with ssh: echo "standby 0" | /opt/xbmc-bcm/xbmc-bin/bin/cec-client -s
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[3:04] <dan2k3k4> hmm echo h | cec-client returns list of cmds... and echo "pow <address>" so echo "pow 0" returns status on/off
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[3:04] <IT_Sean> Okay, so, you turned it off. Can you turn it back on?
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[3:10] <dan2k3k4> IT_Sean: yeah, echo "on 0"
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[3:10] <IT_Sean> Nice.
[3:10] <dan2k3k4> IT_Sean: installed npm/node.js and also plugged in bluetooth dongle...
[3:10] <dan2k3k4> and set it up as an "ibeacon"
[3:11] <dan2k3k4> but unsure if it's working correctly, I use Android... but all tuts I found use iBeacon code
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[3:12] <dan2k3k4> and with a couple apps I can detect the 'beacon' but one app that I know worked for a different beacon didn't work for this pi :/
[3:12] <dan2k3k4> at least it thinks it's not an ibeacon but meh, don't need it at the moment
[3:13] <dan2k3k4> ideally I want the pi to detect when someone arrives (phones bluetooth) then depending on who, it can turn on TV/lights/set-up channel/xbmc
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[3:13] <dan2k3k4> but I'd rather find something that's mostly setup for all of that
[3:13] <dan2k3k4> iftt ?
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[3:56] <RoBo_V> Morning Guys !
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[3:59] <ParkerR> RoBo_V: Morning
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[4:13] <RoBo_V> ParkerR: hey wassup
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[6:21] <Wendell_> Jckf: So the Pi doesn't take up the full screen when i delete max_framebuffer
[6:21] <Wendell_> I don't know what to do D:
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[6:41] <tehrabbitt> Okay, so I have an intel edison board which allegedly uses the same "MRAA" library that Raspi uses... i'm trying to simply raise a single GPIO pin to enable an RFID reader, but i'm not sure how to do such from C++
[6:41] <tehrabbitt> basically one pin = enable, one pin = sout
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[7:27] <shiftplusone> tehrabbitt, first time seeing 'MRAA' library mentioned. O_o You might be better off looking at intel edison resources than anything pi-related.
[7:28] <tehrabbitt> shiftplusone: yeah, sadly there aren't many :(
[7:28] <tehrabbitt> http://iotdk.intel.com/docs/master/mraa/gpio_8h.html
[7:28] <tehrabbitt> thats what I have to go off of
[7:28] <tehrabbitt> allegedly it's designed for both raspi as well as edison
[7:28] <tehrabbitt> http://iotdk.intel.com/docs/master/mraa/rasppib.html
[7:29] <tehrabbitt> http://iotdk.intel.com/docs/master/mraa/edison.html
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[7:30] <shiftplusone> ah, haven't seen anyone use it for the pi
[7:30] <knightwise> morning everyone
[7:31] <tehrabbitt> shiftplusone: how would you otherwise set a GPIO pin to gnd in order to enable something?
[7:31] * knightwise is struggling to get pi musicbox worken :)
[7:31] <tehrabbitt> shiftplusone: i'm using C++
[7:31] <shiftplusone> tehrabbitt, for intel edison, I don't know. On the pi, we have a sysfs interface which is easy to use, but also wiringpi, which doesn't support the edison.
[7:32] <tehrabbitt> ah
[7:33] <tehrabbitt> (exported via a kernel module through sysfs), or memory mapped IO via a /dev/uio device or /dev/mem depending again on the board
[7:33] <tehrabbitt> is that the same thing?
[7:35] <shiftplusone> yeah (unless you're asking if the kernel module method and memory mapping methods are the same, in which case, no)
[7:35] <tehrabbitt> shiftplusone: no i meant the sysfs one :P
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[8:49] <kaishaedo> Is there a way from ssh terminal or python program to make something show up on the main display, even though the main display is still at the login, main display being either hdmi or composite. I'm using composite at the moment.
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[8:50] <kaishaedo> for example, a slide show, or maybe rfid authentication
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[10:29] <shiftplusone> whew
[10:30] <ApolloJustice> why wouldn't it be?
[10:30] <shiftplusone> had to go poking around the server room. None of that is hosted internally, but I'm being extra paranoid =P
[10:31] <ApolloJustice> heh, you can never be too careful i guess
[10:34] <ApolloJustice> fuck, I really want to do cool things with my Pi but i have too short of an attention span to learn Python so it's being used as an IRC bouncer for now :P
[10:34] <ApolloJustice> and wrong channel again
[10:34] <ApolloJustice> crap
[10:34] <ApolloJustice> well still relevant but didnt mean to send to this channel
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[10:37] <shiftplusone> eh? one does not 'learn' python. You just blindly stab they keyboard until it does what you want it to do.
[10:37] <shiftplusone> Unless you want to do it properly and follow learnpythonthehardway or something
[10:38] <ApolloJustice> oh, it's one of THOSE languages
[10:38] <ApolloJustice> honestly i'm kinda scared just idling in #python
[10:39] * shiftplusone doesn't idle in channels where you're not allowed to say 'lol' >.>
[10:39] <ApolloJustice> are you actually not allowed to
[10:39] <ApolloJustice> what the heck
[10:39] <samB__> lol
[10:40] <shiftplusone> (I'm sure the channel is fine and the folks on there are great, but it's just not for me. Like this channel is not for some folk because of our language policy)
[10:41] <Tachyon`> I got banned from one channel for changing my nick when I go to sleep etc. never mind there's a reason for it.
[10:41] <Tachyon`> #arduino that was
[10:42] <ApolloJustice> away nicks are usually frowned upon, i don't know why, but for some reason they are
[10:42] <shiftplusone> Tachyon`: what is the reason? /away exists for a reson.
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[10:42] <ApolloJustice> I can't get my Pi to stop telling me to fsck my SD card, I already did that like twice and it still warns me at boot
[10:43] <shiftplusone> ApolloJustice: what does it actually say? Is it about a dirty bit being set or somesuch?
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[10:43] <Tachyon`> because I'm in a lot of autism channels and someone panics if I don't respond, heh, so I change the name so he can see, as he doesn't understand the away system, but heh, it's up to me what my bloody nick is
[10:43] <ApolloJustice> nope, i can't remember the exact message but it's something like "Volume was not properly unmounted. Please run fsck."
[10:44] <ApolloJustice> so I just sudo shutdown -rF now to fsck the card but it still boots with that message even after a clean shutdown
[10:44] <shiftplusone> ApolloJustice: which partition is it for?
[10:44] <ApolloJustice> let me check
[10:45] <ApolloJustice> /dev/mmcblk0p1
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[10:45] <shiftplusone> yes, that's the /boot partition
[10:45] <shiftplusone> which is fat32
[10:46] <shiftplusone> so the full message is probably about the dirty bit
[10:46] <shiftplusone> which vfat.fsck in wheezy is unable to fix
[10:46] <shiftplusone> safe to ignore, but if it bugs you, search the forum, I know people have solutions for it.
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[10:47] <ApolloJustice> ahh okay, if it's fine and isn't actually going to be a problem then i'll just ignore it
[10:48] <shiftplusone> yup
[10:48] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=477478#p477478
[10:49] <ApolloJustice> i somehow got it to go away once but then it came back, does mounting the card on Windows and doing the error check thing make the message go away
[10:49] <shiftplusone> yes, it should
[10:50] <shiftplusone> assuming windows doesn't get confused by an sd card with multiple partitions
[10:50] <shiftplusone> I am thinking a safe unmount/eject in windows alone might fix it.
[10:53] <Tachyon`> t
[10:53] <shiftplusone> t indeed.
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[10:54] <ApolloJustice> thanks for the link shiftplusone, fsck.fat fixed i
[10:55] <shiftplusone> hm
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[11:00] <Tachyon`> windows does get confused with multi partition sd cards, I've had it 'see' only the first one before...
[11:01] <Tachyon`> although fi you install the seagate microdrive driver on yoru card readers, windows treats them as real hard disks and stops messing you about
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[12:20] <luaa> can someone help me with the last step http://www.extragsm.com/blog/2014/12/03/connect-esp8266-to-raspberry-pi/
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[12:42] <SpeedEvil> which last step
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[13:13] <luaa> SpeedEvil: using minicom
[13:14] <SpeedEvil> what's the problem
[13:14] <luaa> "Try to write AT+RST and hit Enter. If it will print some info it means that you are ready to go."
[13:14] <luaa> I dont see my text when I typ
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[13:16] <luaa> also I dont get it, I never gave up the gpio pin I will use, how should minicom know that? @ SpeedEvil
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[13:22] <gordonDrogon> normally you won't see AT commands when sent to a modem device.
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> Try: <enter> AT <enter>
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> That ought to print OK or a zero.
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> Then, maybe ATE1<enter> might turn on echo.
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> although perhaps the module is being held in reset by the gpio pins ...
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[15:21] <Beam> yo!
[15:21] <Beam> just got my rpi
[15:21] <Beam> is there any good solderless solutions for adding stuff to the rpi?
[15:22] <Beam> like arduino
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[15:22] <shiftplusone> breadboards
[15:22] <shiftplusone> with something like a pi cobbler
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[15:23] <Beam> so something like this http://www.dx.com/p/840-point-solderless-breadboard-118355#.VKaptWd0xB8
[15:23] <Beam> in that board, how are the points connected you reckon? ie how many separate connections can i make?
[15:25] <Beam> can i control arduino modules directly from the pi?
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[15:28] <shiftplusone> in the centre, each half of the row is connected . On the edges, the columns are connected, but broken up in the middle.
[15:28] <shiftplusone> So you get a lot of rows and 4 segments on the sides for the power/gnd lines.
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[15:28] <shiftplusone> search for transparent breadboards on google images to get a more visual answer
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[15:29] <shiftplusone> you can sometimes use arduino modules, but if you have to ask, don't try to.
[15:29] <shiftplusone> (without a little bit of research)
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[15:30] <Beam> ok there's nothing special about arduino modules, i just have to fit them through a breadboard and make sure the voltage matches?
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[15:31] <shiftplusone> depends on the particular module
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[15:51] <carlsimpson> haha - finally have remote desktop running on my mac without using VNC
[15:51] <carlsimpson> using the windows method no less - go figure
[15:52] <shiftplusone> probably using vnc as the backend anyway
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[15:53] <carlsimpson> yea it does - im using xrdp & logging in via windows remote desktop .. VNC would just not play ball and connect without locking me out on the bootup
[15:54] <carlsimpson> many of hours of reinstalls later :D
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[15:54] <shiftplusone> heh
[15:54] <carlsimpson> forgotten what i was originally intending to do now - its taken so long .. heh
[15:55] * ShorTie knows that feeling, lol.
[15:55] <ShorTie> if not days
[15:55] <carlsimpson> well yea - about 4 to be precise
[15:56] <carlsimpson> lol ..
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[15:57] <leandroa> what's the best charger for car to use with model B?
[15:57] <carlsimpson> ooh dunno - 5v + i presume
[15:58] <[Saint]> anything in the 5V @ ~1.2A range
[15:58] <shiftplusone> the one that works
[15:59] <[Saint]> that one over there.
[15:59] <[Saint]> the one on the left.
[16:00] <shiftplusone> heh, I stand by my answer. With something like car chargers, you'd probably have to try and see. I suspect they're even worse than the worst of normal chargers.
[16:00] <ShorTie> ah, but i like the middle one
[16:01] <carlsimpson> that decides it then :)
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[16:02] <shiftplusone> Well... that's leave and flight home sorted =). Will be nice to get a few weeks back home.
[16:02] <carlsimpson> nice
[16:02] <ShorTie> depends on car?? is it 6 volt system or 12
[16:02] * ShorTie snickers
[16:03] <shiftplusone> 6v? that's a thing?
[16:03] <[Saint]> I....no.
[16:05] <ShorTie> some car's use to be 6 volt
[16:05] <BCMM> 12 is overwhelming the most common voltage for a car system
[16:05] <BCMM> 24 exists too, often on larger vehicles, anything else is vanishingly rare
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[16:05] <shiftplusone> http://linuxgizmos.com/ringing-in-2015-with-40-linux-friendly-hacker-sbcs/
[16:05] <shiftplusone> heh... I like how most of them look... familiar.
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[16:06] <shiftplusone> good roundup though
[16:06] <BCMM> raspberry pi as a de-facto standard form factor was not something i was expecting...
[16:06] * [Saint] sincerely doubts that carlsimpson is driving anything from prior to ~1930 with its original wiring loom.
[16:06] <[Saint]> _sincerely_
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[16:07] <ShorTie> true, but never know, lol.
[16:08] <BCMM> [Saint]: may be he drives www.amazon.co.uk/Storm-Kids-Electric-Ride-White/dp/B00FFA3K1Q/
[16:08] <[Saint]> heh
[16:08] <BurtyB> BCMM, rectangles have been around a while tbh
[16:09] <shiftplusone> BurtyB: sure, but they didn't have rounded corners until Apple.
[16:09] <[Saint]> hold on to your HAT modules, boys.
[16:09] <BCMM> BurtyB: as has that particular size and shape, which is nearly iso 7810. however, some boards imitate the connector placement
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[16:11] <shiftplusone> If you look at the pre-pi boards like beagleboard (not beaglebone) and gumstix, you can see a clear change in design after the pi came out.
[16:12] <BCMM> BurtyB: have a look at the hummingboard for example
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[16:14] <BurtyB> BCMM, so you mean the ones that look like clones look similar.. I can agree with that ;)
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[16:16] <BCMM> BurtyB: hummingboard isn't a clone - it has different hardware, but aims to be case-compatible with the model B, iirc
[16:16] <BCMM> i.e. it's a different computer but uses the pi's form-factor, like you might use ATX on a new mobo
[16:17] <[Saint]> so - the one that aims to have a compatible form factor looks similar.
[16:17] <[Saint]> well, color me surprised.
[16:18] <BurtyB> indeed
[16:18] <[Saint]> I am both shocked and amazed.
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[16:18] <mikroskeem> hey
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[16:18] <mikroskeem> i need someone to test my kernel: https://github.com/mikroskeem/rpi-linux
[16:18] <luaa> gordonDrogon> normally you won't see AT commands when sent to a modem device. Try: <enter> AT <enter>
[16:19] <luaa> nope @ gordonDrogon its not working
[16:19] <mikroskeem> i'm afraid that camera module doesn't work with it
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[16:21] <Beam> would this be able to run my pi almost indefinitely? http://www.dx.com/p/mediacon-sp30000a-universal-1a-5v-30000mah-li-ion-polymer-solar-power-bank-charger-golden-361704#.VKalgWd0xB8
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[16:22] <shiftplusone> nope
[16:22] <[Saint]> almost certainly not.
[16:23] <[Saint]> unless you happen to constantly follow the sun or are in geostaionary orbit.
[16:23] <Beam> how so? 30Ah battery that charges in 7-9 hours?
[16:23] <BCMM> [Saint]: i'm saying, i'm surprised people started making stuff that was *physically* compatible with the pi
[16:23] * shiftplusone wonders how a geostationary orbit would help
[16:24] <Beam> say my pi uses 1a, that's still atleast 20 hours on a charge
[16:24] <BCMM> [Saint]: i expected *software* compatibility to be bigger
[16:24] <shiftplusone> Beam: are you asking about the battery or the solar panel?
[16:25] <Beam> both :p
[16:25] <shiftplusone> Don't expect the solar panel to be able to charge the battery faster than the pi uses it
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[16:25] <[Saint]> I...errr, bugger. Solrrcynchromous.
[16:25] <Beam> it's conflicting specs about solar output
[16:25] <[Saint]> *solar
[16:25] <Beam> it says 1.5w but that sounds way too high
[16:25] <shiftplusone> that panel is tiny and probably has terrible efficiency too
[16:25] <c299792458c> google is failing me... anyone have a good resource to fixing ntp not syncing issues?
[16:26] <Beam> further down it says power 0.7w, whatever that means
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[16:26] <luaa> google is failing me too, anyone knows how to connect an esp8266 to a raspberrypi?
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[16:27] <[Saint]> Its almost a given that that tiny panel couldn't replenish that battery bank as fast as the pi could draw from it.
[16:27] <[Saint]> let alone faster.
[16:27] <Beam> but 5v/1.5w = what 300ma?
[16:27] <Beam> if i disable bus doesn't the b+ get down to about that?
[16:27] <[Saint]> you'd need to track the sun to even stand a chance.
[16:27] <[Saint]> vastly increasing complexity.
[16:28] <shiftplusone> Beam: whatever specs are on that page, they look horribly incomplete and entirely made up.
[16:28] <Beam> ok cool
[16:28] <BCMM> luaa: that's an 802.11 interface board for embedded stuff, right?
[16:28] <luaa> yes
[16:28] <luaa> BCMM: I tried this tutorial http://www.extragsm.com/blog/2014/12/03/connect-esp8266-to-raspberry-pi/
[16:29] <luaa> but cant see any response when I use minicom
[16:29] <BCMM> luaa: are you trying to *physically* connect the pi to it, or use the pi to control another device that uses an esp8266?
[16:29] <[Saint]> If things were this easy, the Tesla vehicles would be entirely covered in solar panels and could drive forever.
[16:29] <luaa> physically
[16:29] <[Saint]> Efficiency and expense throws a huge spanner in those works, though.
[16:29] <mikroskeem> luaa: didya disable getty on serial properly?
[16:29] <BCMM> luaa: i am curious as to why you would do that instead of just putting a USB wifi dongle on it
[16:29] <SpeedEvil> I note that in many places - you will need a considerably larger panel than the draw.
[16:30] <SpeedEvil> For example - if you want it 24*7 - here in scotland - you need around a 250W panel.
[16:30] <[Saint]> indeed
[16:30] <luaa> I dont have a 3.3V usb and couldnt wait
[16:30] <SpeedEvil> Maybe half that - optimistically - in the sunniest parts of england
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[16:30] <SpeedEvil> Dec/January/Feb have short, often dull days for weeks at a time
[16:31] <luaa> mikroskeem: you mean disabling the serial port login?
[16:32] <BCMM> luaa: i don't understand what you mean about 3v3 - i meant, is the objective to let you use a shell on the pi, over wifi? if so, why not just a plain old wifi dongle?
[16:33] <mikroskeem> luaa: yep
[16:33] <SpeedEvil> esp on pi is questionable.
[16:33] <SpeedEvil> As a standalone micro - awesome
[16:33] <mikroskeem> luaa: do "lsof /dev/ttyAMA0"
[16:34] <SpeedEvil> Though limited in GPIO unless you add an SPI expander
[16:35] <luaa> BCMM: its just trying out stuff. I will eventually try to write a new firmware for fun.
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[16:37] <Beam> can this run the pi then? http://www.dx.com/p/24v-4-5w-solar-power-panel-auto-car-battery-charger-126696#.VKa7F2d0xB8
[16:38] <luaa> mikroskeem: it returns: screen 2275 pi 6u CHR 204,64 0t0 8 /dev/ttyAMA0
[16:41] <BCMM> Beam: under ideal conditions, with a decent regulator, yes
[16:41] <luaa> mikroskeem: after a reboot lsof returns nothing, hmm?
[16:41] <BCMM> Beam: but depending on the climate in which you live, "ideal conditions" may be rather rare
[16:43] <Beam> 24v/4.5w = 0.2a isn't it? then at 5v that'll be like 1a?
[16:43] <Beam> minus the regulator say 30% ? 0.7a
[16:43] <Beam> hmm yea
[16:44] <Beam> i'll need two lol
[16:44] <BCMM> i would like to point out that 24V/4.5W has units a^-1
[16:45] <BCMM> Beam: the figure you want is 4.5W/5V, which give 900mA before regulator inefficiency
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[16:46] <BCMM> that would run a pi without peripherals quite nicely, but note that 4.5W is the *maximum* power you will get out of that thing
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[16:46] <BCMM> that is, when the sky is clear and it's pointed directly at the sun
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[16:49] <shiftplusone> Beam: if you plan to power a pi off anything of the sort, prepare for disappointment.
[16:49] <BCMM> has he said where he lives? it makes a big difference
[16:50] <[Saint]> with that panel, it really doesn't.
[16:50] * shiftplusone creates a visual basic gui to track his IP.
[16:50] <shiftplusone> Norway, by the looks of it.... good luck.
[16:50] <[Saint]> rain, sun, shine...its still not gonna cut it.
[16:51] <BurtyB> snow is a bit of an issue too :(
[16:51] <BCMM> oh jesus, he really is on .no ISP. yeah, good luck with that.
[16:53] <BCMM> cool, apparently norway has like 80% average cloud cover
[16:53] <toresbe> Er, Norway is WAY too diverse to be able to take a national average
[16:53] <toresbe> the distance between the capital and the northernmost county is greater than the distance between the capital and Rome
[16:54] <[Saint]> you know averages are literally made to negate diversity, yeah?
[16:54] <[Saint]> just sayin'.
[16:54] <toresbe> yes, but this is a perfect example of when averages are used to confuse
[16:55] <[Saint]> or confused intentionally...
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[16:57] <mikroskeem> luaa: i don't know then
[16:57] <BCMM> toresbe: ok, where is the sunniest place in norway?
[16:57] <[Saint]> nope. can't say that...it would be the _average_ sunniest place.
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[16:57] <[Saint]> don't want to mislead anyone.
[16:57] <[Saint]> ;p
[16:57] <toresbe> [Saint]: ...
[16:58] <toresbe> BCMM: I dunno. I just wanted to point out that the weather in Norway is too diverse to treat as a single value without more info
[17:00] <BCMM> toresbe: it was just supposed to be a "fun fact" - it is already well known that there is nowhere in northern europe where one can reasonably assume that a solar panel will provide the power that is written on the box
[17:00] <toresbe> for sure
[17:00] <BCMM> where, in this case, "northern europe" means "anywhere other than the Mediterranean coast"
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[17:01] <toresbe> During summer solstice, the northernmost parts of Norway have sunlight at midnight
[17:02] <toresbe> (and conversely no sunlight at winter)
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[17:04] <BCMM> toresbe: no; on average, during summer solstice, *the clouds above* the northernmost parts of Norway have sunlight at midnight :)
[17:04] <shiftplusone> In Norway you will find reindeer, which are also called caribou. These animals which only live in the northern hemisphere above the Arctic circle, travel far to get food. They have antlers, which they use for scraping the snow away from the ground to find food. The caribou have four toes.
[17:04] <shiftplusone> Sorry, I thought we were static facts about Norway. >.>
[17:04] <shiftplusone> And that's what came up when I googled norway facts.
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[17:06] <toresbe> shiftplusone: they are very tasty
[17:06] <toresbe> fun fact.
[17:06] <shiftplusone> The troll plays a significant part in Norwegian and Scandinavian folklore. The troll is an ugly, messy, nasty creature that lives in caves or forests and will turn to stone if sunlight hits them. There are even a few areas in Norway that have been named after the troll.
[17:06] <shiftplusone> Are they tasty too?
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[17:09] <luaa> shiftplusone: do you have experiense with esp8266?
[17:09] <shiftplusone> no sir
[17:10] <luaa> someone mentioned your name yesterday
[17:10] <luaa> ow :(
[17:10] <shiftplusone> they lied
[17:10] <luaa> lol
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[17:13] <mrdevri> Would this be good for a dedicated server? http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=442707
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> mrdevri, it's a standard Pi model B+. Hae you built a Linux server before?
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[17:18] <SpeedEvil> And define 'server'
[17:18] <SpeedEvil> luaa: #esp8266
[17:19] <mrdevri> for strage, databases, hosting, etc...
[17:20] <mrdevri> general server
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[17:23] <BurtyB> mrdevri, still depends what you want to do with each of those and how long you're prepared to wait for things to load imho
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[17:25] <niston> weee
[17:25] <mrdevri> gordonDrogon: no that's why i want to build one and learn
[17:25] <mrdevri> plus i want a dedicated server of my own
[17:26] <abnormal> to ====> niston ..... whoa.... lol
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[17:26] <shiftplusone> niston: any luck getting the datasheet?
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[17:32] <BCMM> Mr_Sheesh: as a server, the raspberry pi has the advantages of being cheap, low-power, and running a pretty standard linux environment. it has some performance disadvantages, however
[17:32] <BCMM> Mr_Sheesh: in particular, if you want to store any significant amount of data, you will need to attach a USB mass storage device. there is only a single US Bus on the Pi, and the USB ports share it with the ethernet device
[17:32] <Armand> ^ Odroid C1
[17:33] <BCMM> so if you use it as a file or database server, be aware that your disk competes for bandwidth with your network adaptor
[17:33] <BCMM> (there is an internal USB hub)
[17:33] <Armand> Also, for databases you'll be better off just using a proper server/PC.
[17:33] <Armand> Moar RAM.
[17:34] <BurtyB> always need more goats :(
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[17:34] <Armand> BaaRamYou!
[17:34] <Armand> Ewe?
[17:34] <Armand> lol
[17:34] <BCMM> BurtyB: a ram is a sheep.
[17:35] <BCMM> Mr_Sheesh: however, if you don't mind poor IO performance, a Pi is cheap to buy and cheap to run. power consumption is low enough that you won't mind leaving it on full time
[17:35] <BurtyB> BCMM, lol I guess the joke doesn't work in here
[17:35] <Armand> Narp
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[17:37] <BCMM> Mr_Sheesh: sorry, i have been highlighting you for several minutes when i meant to highlight mrdevri
[17:37] <BCMM> but he left and you were the next "mr" in the channel
[17:37] <Armand> ^ Who since left. :P
[17:37] <Armand> lol
[17:38] <BCMM> Armand: i don't know about other irc clients, but mine gives preference, when tab-completing, to whoever in the channel spoke most recently
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[17:38] <Armand> Mine gives a list so I can match more letters.
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[17:39] <BCMM> what client is that? (i'm using konversation, which feels a lot like a Qt xchat)
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[17:42] <Armand> Xchat 2.8.8
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[17:45] <niston> abnormal: sorry wasnt paying attention
[17:45] <niston> sup?
[17:46] <Mr_Sheesh> np
[17:46] <niston> watching this ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znwp0pK8Tzk
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[17:59] <abnormal> Hi, niston how you?
[17:59] <abnormal> just picking on you by the way....
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[18:04] <abnormal> yeah, I used to have the one on lower right. it was whipped so I discarded it and took up too much room... it was as big as a desktop PC...
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[18:07] <dan2k3k4> anyone used domogik on the pi ? or some other home automation framework?
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[18:08] <Jayden_> How is the B+ compared to the B?
[18:08] <dan2k3k4> I don't have an arduino and just want to manage rules based on bluetooth devices/time+date/wifi
[18:08] <dan2k3k4> there seems to be tons of different home automation services -,-
[18:09] <shiftplusone> Jayden_: same thing with more USB ports and better power circuitry.
[18:09] <shiftplusone> it's actually a much nicer product, but that's the nutshell version.
[18:10] <Jayden_> I might need to pick one up then, my B is currently a dedicated server and people will get angry if I try to switch to another project.
[18:10] <shiftplusone> would they really care about 10 minutes of downtime?
[18:11] <shiftplusone> actually, more like 1 minute, but still.
[18:12] <Jayden_> Well, what I mean is since it's being taken up as a dedicated server, I can't use it for, say, a emulation machine. Which I tried out while my server software was broken.
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[18:14] <Jayden_> It's annoying, but I can just pick up a B+ when I have the extra money. Currently saving up for a nice computer build. But after I get that I'll just grab a B+ and accessories.
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[18:33] <DMackey> backup dd'ing a 16gb sd card. MAN does that take forever... http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=46911
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[18:35] <shiftplusone> hurray for partclone
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[18:39] <aeroevan> DMackey: yeah, dd does take forever, but picking the right block size (bs= parameter) can help a lot
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[18:41] <dan2k3k4> why dd and not rsync ?
[18:41] <aeroevan> dd keeps partitions?
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[18:42] <aeroevan> depends on what sort of backup I guess
[18:42] <DMackey> I just wanted to back up the card... JUST in case. gets old redoing everything when something goes wrong
[18:42] <aeroevan> might be easier to just dd over a new sdcard instead of installing and rsyncign back over
[18:42] <dan2k3k4> I see, never heard of dd before, I know when I switched from openelec to raspbmc, I wanted to back up the partitions
[18:43] <DMackey> yup thats what I'm doing, writting the backup to a new card.
[18:44] <dan2k3k4> yeah, I don't have any other cards, I should probably get another SD card (probably larger than 4 gb)
[18:44] <DMackey> I only use 16gb cards... more than enough space for the most part.
[18:44] <dan2k3k4> but for now, the pi has been running just fine for about 2 years since I've had it
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[18:45] <dan2k3k4> all media is on my nas, so I only have the system on the pi but starting to look into some simple home automation
[18:45] <DMackey> a couple times, the power went out and screwed up the SD card. had to reformat and redo everything... pain in the arse
[18:45] <DMackey> yes I have a UPS now lol
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[18:46] <dob1> hi, where is defined there swap file on raspbian? i don't find it on /etc/fstab
[18:46] <dan2k3k4> with cec-client, you can change hdmi source, but how do I get a list of the hdmi sources available?
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[18:47] <shiftplusone> dob1: it uses some silly dphys-swapfile thing
[18:48] <dob1> shiftplusone, where is the configuration? i don't find it on /etc/
[18:48] <dob1> shiftplusone, found it, sorry
[18:48] <shiftplusone> np
[18:48] <dob1> shiftplusone, why silly?
[18:49] <[Saint]> there's _really_ no difference between a swap file or partition here.
[18:49] <[Saint]> nothing to bother writing home about at least.
[18:49] <shiftplusone> No valid reason, I just don't like it.
[18:50] <dob1> shiftplusone, have you replace it with another solution?
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[18:51] <shiftplusone> I re-image my card several times a day, so I don't stray much from the defaults. In the past, I've used Arch, which has a swap partition rather than a swap file.
[18:52] <shiftplusone> It really makes no difference and swap is only there so that things crash and burn slower when you run out of RAM. I don't run out of RAM >.>
[18:52] <[Saint]> zRAM is likely a vastly better solution.
[18:52] <shiftplusone> =/
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[18:52] <dob1> i was thinking to make a swap partion on and usb key
[18:52] <dob1> *an
[18:52] <shiftplusone> Given that the CPU is much more of a limitation than RAM, zRAM seems like an odd choice.
[18:52] <[Saint]> swapping to an sdcard is...unpleasant.
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[18:53] <[Saint]> once you *need* to swap, you've pretty much lost on the pi anyway...
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[18:54] <Mr_Sheesh> Swap through a usb drive, ugh, that would bite
[18:54] <dob1> do you think that creating a swap partion on an usb key is a bad idea?
[18:54] <dob1> i see
[18:54] <[Saint]> no worse an idea than having it on an sdcard.
[18:55] <shiftplusone> dob1: do you run out of RAM?
[18:55] <dob1> shiftplusone, no, at least not now, but just to tweak it
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[18:56] <Mr_Sheesh> writing to nand = pretty slow. Might be better to use a usb hard drive? Or a second rpi for some of the work?
[18:56] <shiftplusone> If you're tweaking for the sake of tweaking, it really doesn't matter.
[18:56] <[Saint]> A USD HDD...what!?!
[18:56] <[Saint]> 'cos, waiting for it to spin up will be *heaps* faster.
[18:56] <[Saint]> <facepalm>
[18:57] <[Saint]> *USB
[18:57] <abnormal> if is a SSD then be faster
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[19:00] <ozzzy_> yep... just need to add the SATA stuff
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[19:01] <[Saint]> heh.
[19:01] <abnormal> not if it is bought as a self contained unit, like a Seagate external drive.
[19:02] <ozzzy_> but then it's still only a USB drive...
[19:02] <[Saint]> why would you put such a drive on a device where all the IO is limited to a singular USB bus, though?
[19:02] <ozzzy_> as the Pi has to boot from the SD [shrug]
[19:02] <[Saint]> its like putting race fuel in a segway.
[19:02] <Jayden_> great simile
[19:03] <ozzzy_> especially as a seqway is electric
[19:03] <[Saint]> ;))
[19:05] <dob1> more than ram, the principal problem in my case is the cpu, transfering files via ssh requires too much cpu for the encryption and it slows. even using different cypther algorithms
[19:05] <abnormal> well you could ditch the pi and use a regular PC... otherwise the pi wud do just fine with the way it is... it's not a super computer and is quite awesome as it is...
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[19:08] <ozzzy_> so use telnet
[19:08] <ozzzy_> or ftp
[19:09] <dob1> i use ftp
[19:10] <ozzzy_> then you don't need to do it through ssh... so no encryption need be done
[19:10] <shiftplusone> nfs is good
[19:10] <dob1> ozzzy_, ok, but you don't prefer encryption over plain ?
[19:10] <[Saint]> scp
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[19:10] <ozzzy_> I don't use encryption for anything
[19:11] <shiftplusone> eh? scp can copy without encryption?
[19:11] <dob1> ozzzy_, really?
[19:11] <ozzzy_> why would I need encryption
[19:11] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: no, but I find it to be generally faster than ssh.
[19:11] <ozzzy_> ssh is slower than the 2nd coming
[19:11] <[Saint]> ozzzy_: I posit you use encryption rather a lot.
[19:11] <shiftplusone> O_o
[19:11] <[Saint]> albeit transparently...but, you do.
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[19:12] <shiftplusone> but... but.... scp uses ssh
[19:12] <ozzzy_> [Saint], yep... probably
[19:12] <ozzzy_> but not on the Pi
[19:12] <dob1> shiftplusone, rsync with no compress and -c arcfour gives good performance
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[19:13] <dob1> 4/5 MB/s
[19:14] <ozzzy_> the only thing I specify encryption on is my wifi
[19:14] <[Saint]> probably WEP. :p
[19:15] <ozzzy_> no... I use wpa2
[19:15] <ozzzy_> or whatever it is
[19:15] <dob1> ozzzy_, well if you are in your lan and the only user maybe it's ok, but if you connect to a remote server and you don't use encryption is insecure
[19:15] <ozzzy_> dob1, insecure for what
[19:15] <[Saint]> oh dear.
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[19:16] <[Saint]> insecure as in...sending your user/pass in plain text kinda insecure.
[19:16] <[Saint]> ie. 'Very Bad Things(tm)'
[19:16] <dan2k3k4> ok so, echo "tx 1f 82 10 00" | cec-client - works to set the TV to HDMI1 (raspbmc)
[19:17] <dan2k3k4> but is it possible to set it to 'TV' source? :/ and change channel? (non-CEC AFAIK)
[19:17] <ozzzy_> ahhh... I've been doing that for decades...
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[19:17] <dan2k3k4> setting '10 00' to '20 00' changes to HDMI2, 30 00 to HDMI3 etc.
[19:17] <dan2k3k4> but 00 00 doesn't do anything
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[19:17] <dob1> ozzzy_, some people will be happy about your habits
[19:17] <[Saint]> ozzzy_: then it really is a wonder your accounts aren't more readily compromised.
[19:18] <ozzzy_> dob1, nobody yet
[19:18] <ozzzy_> what accounts?
[19:18] <[Saint]> that you've noticed.
[19:18] <ozzzy_> the ftp account on my pi?
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[19:19] <[Saint]> assuming you're too low down the ladder to be of interest to $compromising_party is a fairly classic fallacy.
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[19:20] <[Saint]> It shouldn't require a catastrophic even to make people care about basic security.
[19:20] <[Saint]> ...but it often does.
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[19:23] <ozzzy_> basic security is not to open ports to the world... I don't need to encrypt the traffic on my LAN
[19:24] <Encrypt> Yeah, I'm not on his LAN
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[19:24] <[Saint]> Yet.
[19:25] <[Saint]> From the sounds of things, its only a matter of time though. ;)
[19:25] <[Saint]> Send us a postcard when you get there.
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[19:25] <Encrypt> Ok :]
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[19:33] <ozzzy_> yeah... yet. But as I don't login to any of the machines on my LAN from outside the LAN I'll worry about it later
[19:33] <ozzzy_> LOL
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[19:39] <dan2k3k4> bah seems cec-client causes the 'tv remote' to disconnect from cec :/ so have to restart the pi to get it back
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[19:41] <[Saint]> ozzzy_: you don't have WPS setup on the AP, do you?
[19:41] <[Saint]> (please say no)
[19:41] <[Saint]> If you do, that's a fine place to start, seeing as it is so trivially defeated these days.
[19:42] <[Saint]> With little to no mass compute overhead, as well.
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[19:45] <dob1> i don't know, but even if you mount a shared resource (windows/samba) the login credential are not encrypted?
[19:47] <niston> windows used NTLM previously which is insecure (l0phtcrack comes to mind). on a windows 2000 or newer domain, it actually uses kerberos.
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[19:48] <dob1> and nfs?
[19:48] <niston> im not sure about samba though. it used to require downgrading.
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[20:04] <JakeSays> hey anyone have experience with shaft encoders? i have an old pittman motor with a shaft encoder and i'd like to read it from my raspi
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[20:12] <[Saint]> Who's the black private dick that's a sex machine to all the chicks?
[20:12] <[Saint]> Shaft Encoder!
[20:12] <[Saint]> ...you're damn right.
[20:13] <[Saint]> He's a complicated man, but no one understands him but his Pitmann motor....oooooohhhhh, Shaft!
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[20:56] <knob> lol
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[20:58] * [Saint] has far too many puns in his head involving knob and Shaft now.
[20:59] <[Saint]> its YOUR fault!
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[22:24] <JakeSays> [Saint]: not.. quite the shaft encoder i had in mind :p
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[22:42] <abnormal> took a walk to a nearby junk store.... picked up a Netgear N150 dongle still in box for 5 bux, still has receipt in it, 9-10-11 at Best Buy for 34.99
[22:43] <abnormal> gunna check it out on a pi when I get home....
[22:45] <ApolloJustice> if it's Realtek-based (RTL8192CU driver) it should work out of the box
[22:45] <Rufio> N150 donger?
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[22:45] <Jayden_> raise your donger
[22:45] <ApolloJustice> raise em all
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[22:48] <abnormal> no, it's atheros chipset... so I have to mod the files in pi
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[22:53] <ApolloJustice> ahh
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[22:53] <ApolloJustice> i hate Atheros compatibility with Linux
[22:53] <ApolloJustice> my old laptop had an Atheros wifi card and i had to go through hell to get it working on anything other than Ubuntu
[22:53] <abnormal> too bad... if it works, then I will use it
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[22:55] <abnormal> this is for a pi that Amazon screwed me over on.... so I don' t care what I put on that pi....
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[23:12] <Anaphaxeton> hi. i want to add a camera to my pi and i would prefer to do it with the CSI. is there any other solution, than the typical webcam? i have a good lense and would also prefer a different ccd...
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