#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-01-03

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[0:23] <luaa> hi my rx and tx gpio is not working, help?!
[0:24] <Jayden_> you broke it
[0:24] <luaa> :((
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[0:24] <luaa> help me to fix
[0:24] <ozzzy_> what did you hook up to them
[0:24] <luaa> I connected rx with tx (pin 8 to pin 10)
[0:24] <ozzzy_> from what
[0:25] <luaa> from raspberrypi to raspberrypi
[0:25] <luaa> to test the serial
[0:25] <ozzzy_> ohh... on a loop-back?
[0:25] <luaa> yes
[0:25] <ozzzy_> then you probably didn't break it
[0:25] <luaa> and tried cat /dev/ttyAMA0 simultaniously echoing with a second terminal
[0:26] <luaa> but cant see any output?
[0:26] <ozzzy_> did you setup the port in config.txt etc. first?
[0:27] <luaa> setup port in config.txt?
[0:27] <micky> yeah, remove it from the console in boot/config.txt
[0:27] <micky> actually remove the console from it
[0:28] <ozzzy_> was that config.txt or cmdline.txt.... I can't remember
[0:28] <ozzzy_> but google will find it
[0:29] <micky> it's /boot/cmdline.txt
[0:29] <luaa> which line?
[0:29] <luaa> or what should I uncomment?
[0:29] <micky> remove the console=/dev/ttyAMA0 part
[0:30] <luaa> should I see that? haha
[0:30] <micky> "dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait" is what my cmdline.txt has
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[0:32] <luaa> micky: also what I see
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[0:34] <luaa> ozzzy_: any other tips?
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[0:35] <ozzzy_> luaa, nope... if that doesn't work I'm beat... that's all I had to do to get mine working lo these many months ago
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[0:42] <luaa> micky and ozzzy_ thanks for the help, I will try it tomorrow. rly tired now to go further
[0:42] <luaa> good night!
[0:42] <micky> nnight luaa
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[1:09] <goglosh> I'm proud to announce that the goglosh operating system for the raspberry pi now flashes a LED on and off
[1:09] <goglosh> and that's about it
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[1:16] <Lartza> goglosh, Linux?
[1:17] <goglosh> naw
[1:17] <goglosh> my very own OS that just flashes a led
[1:17] <Lartza> :D
[1:17] <goglosh> who needs linux when you have a flashing led?
[1:17] <Lartza> You just decided to make an OS from scratch? :D
[1:17] <goglosh> yesir
[1:18] <Lartza> Sounds like a lot of work :/ Too much for me
[1:18] <goglosh> yeah I guess it is
[1:19] <ApolloJustice> but it's satisfying at least, i guess.
[1:19] <goglosh> :D I hope so
[1:19] <goglosh> at least it's fun
[1:19] <IT_Sean> I'd be hesitatant to call that an OS if it just flashes an LED, but... ::shrug::
[1:20] <Lartza> Getting there :D
[1:20] <Lartza> Though I'd say even doing linux from scratch would be satisfying
[1:20] <goglosh> well, the linux kernel started as a repeating pattern of ABABAB
[1:20] <ApolloJustice> I'd be satisfied if I could learn Python, I have no patience for learning it.
[1:21] <goglosh> really?
[1:22] <goglosh> why? python is so simple
[1:22] <ApolloJustice> my attention span won't allow me, every time I try i just end up watching Netflix again T_T
[1:23] <goglosh> lol
[1:23] <goglosh> try scratch
[1:23] <ApolloJustice> been there done that
[1:23] <ApolloJustice> Scratch is fun lol
[1:24] <ApolloJustice> I liked Scratch4Arduino because it saved me writing code
[1:24] <goglosh> hah
[1:25] <goglosh> well writing code is pretty much like assembling instructions in scratch
[1:25] <Twist-> ApolloJustice: work through a python book offline.
[1:25] <ApolloJustice> oh god Twist-
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[1:26] <ApolloJustice> I hated doing smb.conf for a samba share, i can't even imagine how much i would hate coding anything
[1:26] <Twist-> ApolloJustice: If you can't stop your browser from drifting to entertainment sites, that might be a reasonable way of eliminating distraction
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[1:27] <goglosh> it actually seems like you don't actually like coding
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[1:27] <ApolloJustice> at some point i did
[1:28] <niston> well not everyone needs to be a coder
[1:28] <niston> we also need system engineers :P
[1:29] <goglosh> don't you need coding for that?
[1:29] <niston> not usually
[1:29] <ApolloJustice> welp, I broke X.
[1:29] <goglosh> you could also be a hardware engineer, make a lisp macheen for me will ya?
[1:30] <niston> but you'll write a lot of config files, presumably :P
[1:30] <ApolloJustice> i broke my panel :P
[1:30] <niston> but the worst thing about computers is progress bars.
[1:30] <niston> when you decide to venture into IT, you'll practically hand over substantial part of your life to them.
[1:31] <niston> you'll be spending countless eternities for them to complete.
[1:31] <goglosh> I've always wondered how those work
[1:31] <goglosh> black magic perhaps?
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[1:34] <goglosh> I mean, while a program is loading, how can it even run?
[1:35] <niston> loader.
[1:35] <goglosh> wuzdat?
[1:35] <goglosh> a program that loads the actual program while displaying the progress bar?
[1:36] <niston> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y70vcs3oV14
[1:36] <niston> :>
[1:36] <niston> but yes.
[1:37] <ApolloJustice> is there a way to reset lxpanel to default config? It won't start anymore :P
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[1:37] <niston> another teqneeq would be to postpone loading resource data such as video, audio, images, data sets to runtime.
[1:38] <niston> so the main program already executes and might show an evil progressbar while downloading content
[1:40] <goglosh> interesting, and does it really take much work?
[1:41] <niston> its a common technique. lots of web 2.0 sites use it
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[4:34] <Fbeezy> Hey everyone- if there are any programmers that are familiar with wiringpi that want to take on a small project this weekend please message me.
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[4:50] <goglosh> So is it safe to have the pi running 24/7?
[4:51] <niston> sure why not?
[4:51] <goglosh> it doesn't overheat or something?
[4:51] <niston> no
[4:51] <goglosh> awesome
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[5:49] <thebeav> I come here seeking some inspiration for a device I want to try to make. I'm trying to make the raspberry pi output an isochronic tone that is synchronized to flashing LED's.
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[5:50] <thebeav> Essentially for the isochronic tone, I just want to play a tone (sine wave preferred) while the LED's are on and not play the tone when they are off. I'm cycling the LED's anywhere between 1 and 20 Hz.
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[5:51] <thebeav> The trouble I'm having is I have no idea and have had no luck finding any ideas for a simple way to just play a tone (preferably using python).
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[6:04] <niston> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/#module-sine
[6:04] <niston> if you can use that somehow with python
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[6:06] <niston> might want to look at https://code.google.com/p/pypactl/ for reference
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[6:11] <niston> you making one of those brainwave beat things?
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[6:17] <thebeav> Yes I'm trying to make one that has both audio and visual stimuli synchronized. Sounded easier than it's turning out to be.
[6:18] <niston> well my ideas are a) using some software fm synthesizer to create sine waves
[6:18] <niston> or b) using sample playback/looping to achieve the same
[6:18] <niston> you might also take a look at BASS audio library
[6:18] <niston> it offers a neat sync ¨function
[6:19] <niston> for triggering events when ie a sample ended or looped or some such
[6:20] <niston> not sure if there's a python binding for it though
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[6:21] <thebeav> I wonder how quickly you can "mute" the sound via python. I bet it's slow. If it were fast enough I could just start sampling the pure tone at the beginning and "mute" the sound when the LED's are off to create the isochronic tone effect.
[6:23] <niston> how do you turn the leds on and off?
[6:23] <niston> writing to GPIO pins?
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[6:23] <thebeav> Yes GPIO pins were the plan. I actually started with the intention to do this on an arduino. Got the LED's working in about 5 minutes but no sound output so I thought the spare pi I had lying around might do better.
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[6:25] <niston> so you need a way to turn synthesis/sample playback on and off at the time you write to the pins
[6:26] <thebeav> Sounds like that would do the trick.
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[6:51] <CoJaBo> Are there people that use rpi/XBMC to watch sports stuff?
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[7:15] <mostafa__> Hi,
[7:15] <mostafa__> I have a raspberry pi
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[7:19] <mostafa__> with a sdcard, and I want to ask you for something to buy that cost less than 9$ to use with raspberry pi to start experimenting with C/Linux programming interface?
[7:22] <niston> http://www.subdude-site.com/WebPages_Local/RefInfo/Computer/Linux/LinuxGuidesOfOthers/linuxProgrammingGuides/pdfs/CPPprogramming/TutorialFor_CandCPP_ProgrammingOnLinux_2004_18pgs.pdf
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[7:35] <CoJaBo> mostafa__: ..?
[7:38] <micky> mostafa__, well if you're referring to programming the inputs / outputs you can already do that using software after you install raspbian on your pi, and if you're looking to connect it to something more insane, get a couple of esp8266's and develop some custom firmware in C and use the pi to upgrade it
[7:39] <mostafa__> CoJaBo: ?? :p
[7:41] <mostafa__> micky : I want to enter the world of embedded and IoT through raspberry pi, Currently I am reading The Linux Programming Interface (No_Starch) book, and I want to do some practice in RPi
[7:43] <micky> mostafa__, cool, so you're looking into controlling stuff with your pi
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[7:43] <micky> i would not call it "embeded" thou, as it's running an ARM port of linux
[7:43] <mostafa__> micky : How can I already program I/O using RPi? the price of esp8266?
[7:44] <mostafa__> micky: I want it as IoT device
[7:44] <micky> mostafa__, but getting a couple of LED's, some shift registers or i2c IO expanders, and hook those up to the pi could be quite cheap
[7:45] <micky> mostafa__, http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/usage/gpio/
[7:49] <micky> you install rapsbian on your pi, then get the WiringPi installed, then you can just use their binaries to do the gpio toggling
[7:49] <micky> mostafa__, or you can go deeper and do it from C/C++ if you wish
[7:50] <micky> mostafa__, the ESP8266 is a wireless IoT device that costs around $3-4, that you can write custom firmware for, and has gpio's too
[7:56] <mostafa__> micky : Thank you micky!!! that's very helpful!!
[7:57] <micky> mostafa__, you're very welcome :)
[7:58] <micky> mostafa__, by the way, research the esp abit before deciding which version to buy, the original one ( ESP-01 ) only has 2 i/o pins
[7:59] <mostafa__> imcky: thanks!! ok for ESP, I will send you the link from which I will buy
[8:01] <mostafa__> micky: is GPIO where I can plug some electronic to program the software that use it ?
[8:02] <micky> mostafa__, GPIO = General Purpose Input / Output pin :) it's a pin you connect stuff to
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[8:02] <micky> both the raspberry pi and the esp have them
[8:04] <micky> mostafa__, the ESP-01 is fine for starters, as it's got pins you can hook wires to, the rest of them usually require quite fine soldering to get working
[8:06] <mostafa__> micky : great! I will get ESP-01, then something to connect with RPI or ESP through GPIO ?
[8:07] <micky> mostafa__, you use simple wires to connect them
[8:07] <micky> ah, get a relay, some transistors, some led's
[8:08] <micky> i'd say connecting the two and using the pi to flash then control the esp, and develop a custom firmware for your new IoT esp device should suffice :P
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[8:09] <micky> mostafa__, i've been working on that myself for the past month
[8:10] <mostafa__> micky: I'm assuming that it was a fun experience!!?
[8:11] <micky> mostafa__, yup, getting my C knowledge refreshed :)
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[8:11] <micky> mostafa__, and learning quite abit about how these little systems work
[8:12] <mostafa__> micky: :D I will get one the soonest possible!!
[8:12] <micky> mostafa__, untill then you can play with the pi's GPIO's :) they're awesome!
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[8:14] <mostafa__> micky: Ok, but I need something to connect with GPIO ?
[8:14] <mostafa__> micky: !! w
[8:15] <micky> mostafa__, true that :) run to the local tv repair store and get a couple of resistors and led's :)
[8:18] <mostafa__> micky: ok!! what can I do with resistors ? for output I have a kobo glo!
[8:19] <NotACanadianEh> I never thought of that micky
[8:19] <NotACanadianEh> I need to do that tomorrow
[8:24] <micky> NotACanadianEh, that's where i got my first bits and pieces :) ( i'm from Romania and electronics stores and not really that many around here )
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[8:26] <NotACanadianEh> micky, the nearest "electronics" store by me is best buy so normally amazon is the main choice
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[8:26] <mostafa__> micky: do you have a tuto to begin with resistors using GPIO ?
[8:27] <micky> mostafa__, http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13883
[8:28] <micky> mostafa__, https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/gpio-examples-1-a-single-led/
[8:28] <micky> mostafa__, check those websites and you'll find quite alot of things you can try out
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[8:30] <micky> NotACanadianEh, the local repair shop / guy should have a couple of things handy, which they usually part with no problem :)
[8:31] <micky> NotACanadianEh, they might even teach you a thing or two if they see you're actually interested in the field
[8:31] <mostafa__> micky : Great!! Thank you!!
[8:31] <mostafa__> micky: that's exciting!
[8:32] <micky> mostafa__, :) that's what got me tinkering with my first arduino, then the pi, and now the esp :)
[8:32] <micky> mostafa__, and it's been quite a journey
[8:37] <mostafa__> micky, :D :D I want to buy AdaFruit FLORA later, is it good ?
[8:37] <micky> mostafa__, haven't used it yet :)
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[8:41] <mostafa__> micky: did you learnt Linux API ?
[8:42] <mostafa__> micky: or you got deeper in Linux by programming drivers or firmwares ?
[8:43] <micky> mostafa__, some small parts of the kernel API, like the i2c drivers and uart ( used to talk to i2c devices / serial devices )
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[8:45] <mostafa__> micky: Great!!
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[8:52] <mostafa__> micky: do you are always connected ?
[8:52] <micky> mostafa__, most of the time when i'm working on these projects
[8:53] <mostafa__> micky: can we connect in google+ or skype ??
[8:54] <micky> mostafa__, no worries mate, you'll find me here ;) or someone else might lend you a hand
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[8:56] <mostafa__> micky: Ok! Thank you a lot mate! IRC is better, more professional!
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[10:24] <shiftplusone> So many choices... =S
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[10:26] <Bierdieb_pi> o/ ahoi. ive some trouble starting xbmc on raspian jessie. http://paste.debian.net/139013/ and the log log: http://paste.debian.net/139014/
[10:26] <Bierdieb_pi> any idea i might try?
[10:27] <shiftplusone> how did you upgrade to jessie and how did you install xbmc?
[10:27] <Bierdieb_pi> installed it straight from the repo
[10:27] <shiftplusone> raspbian.org repo?
[10:27] <Bierdieb_pi> well i started with a wheezy image
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[10:28] <shiftplusone> can you pastebin your sources.list?
[10:28] <Bierdieb_pi> changed sources to jessie and updated, even dist.
[10:28] <shiftplusone> just to make sure the "Illegal instruction" is just a red herring.
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[10:30] <Bierdieb_pi> http://paste.debian.net/139015/
[10:30] <Bierdieb_pi> what pls is a red herring?
[10:30] <shiftplusone> Yup, looks good.
[10:31] <shiftplusone> "red herring is used to refer to something that misleads or distracts from the relevant or important issue."
[10:31] <leio> I presume the lack of d in deb at the start is a selection issue :P
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[10:31] <shiftplusone> "illegal instruction" often means you've messed up your sources.list by using armv7 repos, for example. I just wanted to make sure that's not the case.
[10:32] <Bierdieb_pi> on first start xbmc moaned about color depth, so i altered framebuffersize and ingnore alpha
[10:32] <Bierdieb_pi> but still it refuses to start.
[10:32] <shiftplusone> Unfortunately, I don't have direct experience with running xbmc on jessie, so I don't know if it's even supposed to work on the pi. I'll leave it for someone who knows whhat they're talking about.
[10:33] <Bierdieb_pi> ok. thx anyway.
[10:34] <Bierdieb_pi> i remember a year or more ago, i needed to compile it myself, but it once worked (on wheezy). i was so happy to find it in the packages.... and for sure, wont work for me^^
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[10:36] <shiftplusone> When I used xbmc on raspbian, I used wheezy and a third party repo linked from the raspbian wiki.
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[10:59] <samB__> I’m trying to understand how a breadboard works with all the different pins but most tutorials I found just tell you where to put the components rather than why. Can anyone recommend any tutorials/guides for this?
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[11:04] <niston> check this, it has a nice gfx (figure 4): http://www.tweaking4all.com/hardware/breadboard/
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[11:05] <samB__> Thanks niston that looks great! I ordered my first pi so I’m trying to learn as much as possible in the mean time :)
[11:06] <niston> yw
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[11:36] <paolo> hello, is it possible/safe to run
[11:36] <paolo> ssh root@raspberrypi gzip -c /dev/mmcblk0 > img.gz
[11:36] <paolo> from a linux box when raspberry is running?
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[11:40] <paolo> nvm silly question :\
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[11:52] <AirForce590> Hey guys
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[14:01] <kisak> hello, does someone know off hand if something will break with NOOBS if I more partitions on the microSD card with gparted?
[14:02] <kisak> I am not awake apparently s/more/move/
[14:02] <kisak> <- new-to-raspberry pi user
[14:04] <shiftplusone> what do you mean by move?
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[14:06] <kisak> I put 4 distros onto a 32GB microsd card with NOOBS, I'd like to combine some so there is a common large storage area that is shared, instead of multiple 6GB "storage" partitions
[14:07] <shiftplusone> That sounds like it would cause problems. There's a partition with files which tells NOOBS what's where and you'd need to adjust that accordingly
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[14:12] <kisak> I'm not too far into customizing what I have, so changing some setting in the setup to get the same effect is also do-able
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[14:39] <MrRick> hi all. Just got a model B+ for xmas
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[14:41] <MrRick> anyone else get a new toy?
[14:42] <shiftplusone> I just bought a 3d printer.... does that count?
[14:42] <shiftplusone> And I'll go get a sandwich too... surely that does.
[14:42] <MrRick> lol. they all count
[14:43] <MrRick> how is the printer working?
[14:43] <shiftplusone> No idea, I just ordered it... should be here on Tuesday I guess.
[14:44] <shiftplusone> I'll tell you how the sandwich situation works out in about 15 minutes though.
[14:44] <shiftplusone> What's the plan for the pi?
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[14:45] <MrRick> i'm interested in hardware, so for now i've blinked leds
[14:46] <shiftplusone> ah yes... the 'smoke on the water' of electronics
[14:46] <MrRick> set it up headless and waiting for wifi dongle
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[14:47] <MrRick> well, I have to start at beginning
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[14:48] <shiftplusone> 'course
[14:50] <MrRick> want to interface to various sensors. I'm pretty sure I've got some temp sensors to start playing with
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[14:51] <MrRick> that should keep me busy for a bit
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[14:54] <MrRick> shiftplusone: what about you? using pi for printer?
[14:57] <MrRick> I'd like to set up a miller myself
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[15:31] <seitensei> What graphics libraries might I want to use if I want to support EGL (on RPI) and GL on desktop?
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[16:07] <giddles> hy, im a total noob and got today my pi b+ with some running stuff like keyboard, wifi connection... is after the installing raspbian something to do? some update or something else thats security relevant
[16:08] <carlsimpson> once youve installed raspbian - your off and away you can start to run whatever you want
[16:08] <giddles> yes
[16:08] <giddles> worked without problems very fine ;)
[16:09] <carlsimpson> cool !! are you running the new version ?
[16:09] <carlsimpson> menu in top left ?
[16:09] <giddles> good question ;)
[16:10] <carlsimpson> do have any magazines or tutorials ? - i found them helpfull to see what i could do - theres loads you can , just depends on what you fancy doing :)
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[16:12] <giddles> hehe i plan to do "sudo apt-get update"
[16:12] <carlsimpson> fire it in
[16:13] <giddles> hehe
[16:13] <giddles> is there a simple cation programm for raspibian that dont need a professional config to see how a usb camera work?
[16:13] <giddles> caption
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[16:13] <giddles> pre caption would be also nice
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[16:16] <KeksMan> waw
[16:16] <KeksMan> i didnt know this channel exists
[16:16] <carlsimpson> lol
[16:16] <IT_Sean> well, it does.
[16:16] <carlsimpson> if you build it - they will come
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[16:17] <taza> It doesn't exist, this is just your imagination. Try spinning a top.
[16:17] <carlsimpson> will you people get out my head please :)
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[16:25] <giddles> lat0r.
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[16:34] <Anaphaxeton> is there any hdmi to some kind of pc input? something v4l for example
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[16:39] <Anaphaxeton> basically i would like to have something like my lense-> ccd-> controller-> CSI -> hdmi out -> ... -> some video in to my pc
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[16:41] <willmore> Anaphaxeton, lens->ccd->CSI->rPi->anything you ant.
[16:41] <willmore> err, 'want'.
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[16:43] <BurtyB> Anaphaxeton, sounds like a deep pockets project - using VNC or a usb composite capture would prob be cheaper than messing with hdmi capture
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[18:37] <foips> Hi there
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[18:38] <foips> I'm looking to by a Pi, anyone got any advice on models and such? For experimenting but also running things like a web server, git repository, maybe a linux distro and stuff
[18:38] <foips> buy*
[18:39] <knightwise> i think the B one will be ok for you
[18:39] <knightwise> or a banana if you want more juice
[18:39] <knightwise> I got me a model B to experiment with.
[18:39] <knightwise> Although I think running a github repo might be a little bit of a heavy load for a pi
[18:39] <foips> Yeah, I hear the banana is better for things like game servers
[18:39] <knightwise> true.
[18:40] <knightwise> check out the 'magpi' magazine aswell to get some cool howto's and stuff
[18:40] <giddles> i got today my pi b+ :-) you need a dc scource, a pi and a micro sd card
[18:40] <shiftplusone> well, B+, not B
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[18:41] <foips> how much can the B+ handle? Sounds stupid but I can't find a spec breakdown on the pi website
[18:41] <abnormal> I got a morphed B.... lol supposed to be a mod A, but got a B 256mb one...
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[18:43] <IT_Sean> ... you paid for an A, and got a B?
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[18:43] <IT_Sean> WOO! Free upgrade!
[18:44] <abnormal> you didn't read correctly... it's a mod B with 256mb mem...
[18:44] <foips> any opinions on the banana pro?
[18:45] <shiftplusone> foips, it fits well in a bin.
[18:45] <foips> lol
[18:45] <abnormal> the first one thousand produced before the actual mod B came out.
[18:46] <IT_Sean> Oh.
[18:46] <foips> shiftplusone, what's the issue with it? And what's better?
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[18:49] <shiftplusone> foips, objectively, nothing. But you're asking in #raspberrypi. Given that they falsely claim that their products are compatible with the pi and we end up getting emails from people complaining that things don't work when they're actually not using a Raspberry Pi product.... I don't have much love for lemaker.
[18:50] <foips> Ah that is a good point
[18:50] <shiftplusone> hardkernel do interesting stuff though, take a look and the odroid c1.
[18:50] <foips> Can imagine that being really annoying
[18:50] <Froolap> Foips my opinion on the banana is that it's not ripe yet. No real suport.
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> abnormal, the first half million B's had 256MB of RAM.
[18:51] <Froolap> I threw my banana away as being useless
[18:51] <foips> cool cool, good to know. You guys would all recommend a Pi then? I'm not much of a maker, so I'd probably use it for more single board computer stuff at first.
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[18:52] <foips> as long as that's viable on a B+, someone said it wouldn't be able to run something like git? that seems odd the specs are easily high enough
[18:52] <abnormal> Froolap, why? does it work at all?
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[18:53] <shiftplusone> foips, I'd recommend either the pi or the odroid c1. C1 lacks support and community, so if you ask for help, you'll probably hear crickets. So.... I'd go with the pi.
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> foips, A Pi is just a nice little ARM based computer - it runs Linux - it's not the fastest and doesn't have the most RAM, but it does have a huge following and support communities.
[18:53] <foips> yeah, the pi community really does seem like the best atm
[18:53] <abnormal> gordonDrogon, this pi has NO mounting holes in the board.
[18:53] <shiftplusone> foips, but yes, you'll be able to use git just fine. Just don't expect to run the next github.
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> abnormal, yes. that's a rev 1 or 1.1 model B.
[18:54] <Froolap> Because when I installed the OS it appeared to be doing "bad" things during boot. Logging in with users that were deleted, istalling stuff via yum, and then deleting all user history files so you couldn't tell what was done.
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> abnormal, I have 3 of those.
[18:54] <foips> haha nah just for personal stuff so I can keep it running at home and push/pull on the go
[18:55] <Froolap> While I can install stoock fedora on the banana, I can't get video due to non free video drivers....
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[18:56] <Froolap> and if you go to the bananapi channel you find 3 clients that don't talk, so no help there.
[18:56] <foips> any issues with fedora or mint on a Pi?
[18:57] <Froolap> I love pidora for the raspberry. works a treat
[18:57] <foips> oh this does look good
[18:58] <shiftplusone> well.... pidora doesn't have much community/support either.
[18:58] <shiftplusone> Raspbian and Arch (and on the media side, OpenELEC) are really the only distros which offer decent support.
[18:59] <foips> Ah that's fine, I'm used to Debian based stuff anyway so raspbian looks good
[18:59] <Froolap> There's lots of help in here. I've gotten all my raspberry questions answered.
[19:00] <foips> sweet
[19:03] <foips> so lastly I guess, any recommended starter kits? or do i really need that given it uses USB, SD, HDMI, all things I have already
[19:04] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't buy a kit
[19:04] <shiftplusone> unless you have a good reason to
[19:04] <Froolap> The only thing I found that was odd with the raspberry was than when I used a wireless dongle and then used midnight commander, after swittiching to a couple of large directories then the system would get very lagged. That didn't happen when connected with cat5.
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[19:05] <melroy> I only need 1 USB port and 1 ethernet port. What about a Raspberry Pi Model A+ with some sort of ethernet module on top of it? Is that a good cheaper solution???
[19:05] <Froolap> I suspect that MC created a memory leak that was conflicting with the wireless module, so any other driver would likely work fine.
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[19:07] <foips> ok cool, well thanks for the advice! I'll probably report back once I've picked one up
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[19:07] <melroy> Or do you advise another developer board in my situation?
[19:08] <melroy> I'm making a mini kind of router
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[19:09] <willmore> My kingdom for a good little board with two ethernet ports--not ones hanging off of USB, either.
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[19:10] <willmore> So far, I've settled for a mini-ITX board with an extra ethernet board in it. Not quite in the same size/power class as the pi.
[19:11] <SpeedEvil> I almost remember one.
[19:11] <Froolap> Use a cat5 to your modem/gateway and then use a wireless dongle as the AP.
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[19:11] <SpeedEvil> But I can't quite.
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[19:11] <willmore> SpeedEvil, welcome to old age.
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[19:12] <SpeedEvil> I many cases, fanless celeron/... mini-ITXs are almost practically in the same wattage class as the PI
[19:12] <Froolap> Of all the things that I've lost, I miss my mind the most.
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[19:12] <SpeedEvil> willmore: Old age kicked in at 11 for me.
[19:12] <SpeedEvil> Chronic fatigue syndrome yay.
[19:12] <willmore> SpeedEvil, 18 for me. :)
[19:13] <willmore> Not CFS, though.
[19:13] <Froolap> When I was born, I was very young.
[19:13] <willmore> You, too?
[19:13] <Froolap> terrible
[19:14] <Tachyon`> lol
[19:15] <abnormal> my old age kicked in at 61
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[19:15] <willmore> bragger.
[19:15] <abnormal> u r?
[19:15] <willmore> :P
[19:16] <abnormal> and I was young when born too.. . but not for long...
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[19:17] <shiftplusone> Hm, I'm 26 but don't think I'm quite ready to enter adulthood >.>
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[19:18] <taza> I'm over 26, but being an adult never worked out for me
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[19:18] <taza> SpeedEvil: You Do Not Have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
[19:18] <taza> hth
[19:19] <taza> Easy way to figure out if you have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: No.
[19:19] <taza> That diagnosis is beyond useless
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[19:19] <taza> "Hey they have a symptom caused by thousands of diseases... figure out why? Nah, it's incurable, let's just let them live with it."
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[19:20] <Tachyon`> questioning the diagnoses of others is considered rude
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[19:21] <taza> I consider it helpful to inform others when it's clear their doctors have made a mistake.
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> willmore, ALIX board with an AMD Geode?
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[19:22] <SpeedEvil> taza: I get dangerously tired by 5-10 minutes light work, to the point that I fail more often than I succeed in cooking a bacon omelette
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[19:22] <taza> You been evaluated for, say, aspergillosis?
[19:23] <taza> Like, I'm not doubting the fatigue, I'm just calling Chronic Fatigue Syndrome the medical equivalent of "we can't figure it out, so let's say it's incurable and stop trying"
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[19:23] <SpeedEvil> It is not cardinopulmenary.
[19:23] <willmore> "It's never lupis!"
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[19:24] <IT_Sean> Wilson's desease?
[19:24] <SpeedEvil> taza: Figure out a cure for whatever I'm calling CFS, and I will give you my house and all my stuff.
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[19:24] <SpeedEvil> Anyway - OT.
[19:24] <taza> Got tested for aspergillosis yet?
[19:24] * Tachyon` wonders if taza will refer us to many papers on the topic published by taza in medical journals (or on any topic)
[19:24] * Tachyon` suspects not
[19:24] <taza> How about a two-hour sugar test?
[19:24] <SpeedEvil> taza: The symptoms don't een pass thesniff test. And it's not blood glucose
[19:25] <taza> It's not a sniff test, it's an urine test, so
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[19:25] <taza> Tachyon`: I try to keep my leisure time separate.
[19:25] <taza> This is leisure time, somehow
[19:26] <taza> But yeah, they took a group of people who had "CSF", tested their urine for mycotoxins, got something ridiculous like 80%+ hits
[19:26] <shiftplusone> meh... what would doctors know what with all the science, education and regulation.
[19:27] <taza> Not much, I'd trust researchers more
[19:27] <taza> Turns out doctors have all those pesky patients to get in the way of proper research
[19:28] <SpeedEvil> taza: correlation is not causation.
[19:28] <taza> Certainly not, that's why it's something that's tested for
[19:28] <SpeedEvil> taza: Did subsequent treatment of those people for fungus actually relieve all their symptoms.
[19:28] <taza> Less accurate, but for some it did
[19:28] <SpeedEvil> Otherwise, it's just a pointless useless correlation.
[19:29] <taza> It's not 100% of CSF patients by a longshot, but try getting a 100% cure for a diagnosis of exclusion
[19:29] <taza> CSF? CFS
[19:29] <taza> TMT: Too many TLAs
[19:31] <SpeedEvil> Also - learn to read studies.
[19:31] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11894732
[19:31] <SpeedEvil> Among the 22% of CFS patients having a total IgE > 100 IU/mL, 73% had a positive test for allergen-specific IgE for one or more allergens. The most commonly positive allergens were dust mites (24-26%), whereas molds (0-6%) and foods (0-4%) were rarely positive.
[19:31] <taza> That's not the study I read back when
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[19:31] <SpeedEvil> This assessment of the prevalence of allergen-specific IgE antibodies in patients with CFS fails to support a potential association between CFS and atopy.
[19:33] <taza> Fatigue is extremely common, unfortunately. They're currently troubleshooting mine, which is like troubleshooting Broadcom hardware bugs.
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[19:35] <taza> On the upside, my doctors are the type to stick me with needles inside my spine in their quest for answers.
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[19:37] <taza> I'm going to, however, continue calling humbug on any disease without a clearly defined set of diagnostic criteria.
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[19:51] <willmore> gordonDrogon, thanks for the hint. They're a bit pricey. I'm not that space nor power constrained. I think my E-350 mini-ITX board will work well for me for a while. :)
[19:51] <cute_korean_girl> are we still talking about whether being abnormally tired is a real disease or not?
[19:52] <taza> Nah, we never were
[19:52] * willmore isn't
[19:52] <cute_korean_girl> oh
[19:52] <IT_Sean> It' not a disease... it
[19:52] <IT_Sean> It' not a disease... it's called "having a job"
[19:52] <cute_korean_girl> :O
[19:52] <taza> I'm calling the diagnosis bullshit because it doesn't have a consistent etiology nor good ways to test for it
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[19:53] <cute_korean_girl> that sounds a lot like semantics to the sufferers. I dunno
[19:53] <cute_korean_girl> I was just wondering cuz, I don't remember being as tired in college
[19:53] <taza> Chronic fatigue exists and is unfortunately common, but CFS is just a dumb diagnosis because it only muddies already unclear waters.
[19:53] <cute_korean_girl> now I'm getting older, almost 28 now and going to grad school next year
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[19:53] <cute_korean_girl> and I'm thinking, how am I gonna do this now that I'm so tired?
[19:53] <taza> I dunno, but thinking about it makes me want to go take a nap
[19:54] <cute_korean_girl> yeah, for sure
[19:54] <cute_korean_girl> I just wish I could do more things without having to move my arms
[19:54] <taza> I mean, I have severe chronic fatigue myself.
[19:54] <cute_korean_girl> life would be much easier for me when I'm tired if it wasn't for all the moving things
[19:54] <taza> I'm not letting the docs diagnose me with something they have neither the cause nor the treatment for however.
[19:55] <cute_korean_girl> they could treat it with ampakines I guess
[19:55] <taza> Turns out they can't
[19:55] <cute_korean_girl> my old neurologist had lots of stickers and calendars for modafanil in his office
[19:56] <taza> I'm pretty sure they just consider the dept head my neurologist by now
[19:56] <taza> I'm such an exotic case
[19:56] <taza> Though, they did fix my headaches. By cutting out chunks of my spine.
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[20:14] <laeckerv> hi, can anyone tell me if onboard audio is possible with mainline kernel (3.17+)? I cant seem to find anything about it.
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[20:15] <shiftplusone> laeckerv, try #raspberrypi-kernel, but don't expect instant answers.
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[20:19] <laeckerv> i will do that, thank you :)
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[20:41] <Anaphaxeton> BurtyB: it sucks that they havent released datasheets about the dsi, but i would like to make available the data to a pc as well. as for composite capture i almost have it, maybe it is worth using it. and hdmi to to analog (yuv? d-video) sound even better)
[20:43] <Anaphaxeton> s-video*
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[21:51] <shiftplusone> Anaphaxeton, a dsi datasheet would do you little good.
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[22:47] <kisak> looks like I got the end goal I was looking for
[22:48] <kisak> a ~19GB storage partition out of openelec's offline installer
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[23:02] <Anaphaxeton> not sure shiftplusone
[23:02] <Anaphaxeton> could the pi do real-time mpeg2 compresiion?
[23:03] <shiftplusone> The folks who know aren't in the office right now, so.... no idea.
[23:03] <ozzzy_> one would think so.. if you put the GPU on the job
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[23:04] <shiftplusone> and if the hardware is capable and the codec includes that functionality
[23:05] <Anaphaxeton> i thought in pure software in the beggining
[23:05] <ozzzy_> the cpu is pretty lightweight
[23:06] <Anaphaxeton> of course if paying for the mpeg-2 codec gives me compression magic too i would be very happy
[23:06] <shiftplusone> oh, no I highly doubt that the CPU can do it at any respectable resolution.
[23:06] <Anaphaxeton> even mpeg-2
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[23:06] <shiftplusone> but you can always fire up ffmpeg or whatever and give it a go
[23:06] <Anaphaxeton> true
[23:07] <Anaphaxeton> my problem is to break the video output barrier
[23:07] <samB__> I’m looking for some project ideas so I can order the components in advance, there are so many ideas online but was wondering if anyone has done anything recently they found interesting for a beginner?
[23:07] <Anaphaxeton> hdmi is to strict and capturing it costs
[23:08] <shiftplusone> Anaphaxeton, can't get much cheaper than composite.
[23:08] <shiftplusone> what resolution do you need?
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[23:08] <Anaphaxeton> samB__: samB__ the microscopi
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[23:08] <Anaphaxeton> 1080p would be best given the goal
[23:09] <Anaphaxeton> csi->mpeg2 accelerated encoding->ethernet should suffice
[23:09] <Anaphaxeton> the second part is what we dont know
[23:10] <Anaphaxeton> if it is possible or not
[23:10] <samB__> Anaphaxeton: Sounds interesting Anaphaxeton , I’ll take a look on Google :)
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[23:12] <shiftplusone> *dsi?
[23:14] <linuxstb> Anaphaxeton: I'm pretty sure the mpeg-2 codec is just a decoder. What's wrong with h264?
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[23:16] <shiftplusone> and I also wonder what you're doing that requires DSI rather than HDMI or just plain network transfer.
[23:19] <Anaphaxeton> transfer hq video to a pc linuxstb
[23:20] <Anaphaxeton> an hdmi capture device is far to expensive
[23:21] <Anaphaxeton> and h264 encoding is simply slow
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[23:22] <shiftplusone> not if you use the GPU
[23:22] <Anaphaxeton> gpgpu?
[23:22] <Anaphaxeton> opencl?
[23:23] <shiftplusone> mmal
[23:23] <Anaphaxeton> mali stuff?
[23:23] <shiftplusone> I believe it might've been linuxstb who actually wrote omxtx in the first place, so I think he's the expert here.
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